3 ONLINE
3 ONLINE AT
CSPAN.ORG
3 ONLINE AT CSPAN.ORG OR THE FREE CSPAN
RADIO
CSPAN.ORG OR THE FREE CSPAN RADIO APP.
NOW,
RADIO APP. NOW, A HEARING LOOK AGENT THE
EFFECTS
NOW, A HEARING LOOK AGENT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON
AMERICAN
EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON AMERICAN COMMUNITIES.
GOVERNORS
AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. GOVERNORS ROY COOPER OF NORTH
CAROLINA,
GOVERNORS ROY COOPER OF NORTH CAROLINA, AND CHARLIE BAKER OF
MASSACHUSETTS
CAROLINA, AND CHARLIE BAKER OF MASSACHUSETTS TESTIFY ABOUT THE
ISSUES
MASSACHUSETTS TESTIFY ABOUT THE ISSUES THEY'RE FACING AND THE
INFLUENCE
ISSUES THEY'RE FACING AND THE INFLUENCE OF FEDERAL
LEGISLATION,
INFLUENCE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATION, REGULATIONS, AND
DEREGULATION.
THE
DEREGULATION. THE HOUSE NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE
THE HOUSE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE HELD THE HEARING
EARLIER
COMMITTEE HELD THE HEARING EARLIER THIS MONTH.
LET
EARLIER THIS MONTH. LET ME CALL THE COMMITTEE OF
NATURAL
LET ME CALL THE COMMITTEE OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO ORDER.
THE
NATURAL RESOURCES TO ORDER. THE COMMITTEE TODAY IS MEETING
TO
THE COMMITTEE TODAY IS MEETING TO HEAR TESTIMONY ON THE
IMPACTS
TO HEAR TESTIMONY ON THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THE NEED FOR CONGRESS AND
THE
AND THE NEED FOR CONGRESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO ACT.
UNDER
THE ADMINISTRATION TO ACT. UNDER THE COMMITTEE RULE 4F.
ANY
UNDER THE COMMITTEE RULE 4F. ANY ORAL OPENING STATEMENTS AT
HEARINGS
ANY ORAL OPENING STATEMENTS AT HEARINGS ARE LIMITED TO THE
CHAIRMEN
HEARINGS ARE LIMITED TO THE CHAIRMEN AND THE RANKING
MINORITY
CHAIRMEN AND THE RANKING MINORITY MEMBER.
THEREFORE,
MINORITY MEMBER. THEREFORE, I ASK UNANIMOUS
CONSENT
THEREFORE, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL OTHER MEMBER'S
OPENING
CONSENT THAT ALL OTHER MEMBER'S OPENING STATEMENTS BE MADE PART
OF
OPENING STATEMENTS BE MADE PART OF THE HEARING RECORD SUBMITTED
TO
OF THE HEARING RECORD SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK BY 5:00 P.M.
TODAY.
HEARING
TODAY. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, SO
ORDERED.
WELCOME,
ORDERED. WELCOME, EVERYONE TO THE FIRST
HEARING
WELCOME, EVERYONE TO THE FIRST HEARING OF THE 116th CONGRESS
FOR
HEARING OF THE 116th CONGRESS FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE.
AND
COMMITTEE. AND THANK YOU TO OUR WITNESSES
FOR
AND THANK YOU TO OUR WITNESSES FOR APPEARING BEFORE US AS WE
BEGIN
FOR APPEARING BEFORE US AS WE BEGIN TO TACKLE ONE OF THE MOST
URGENT
BEGIN TO TACKLE ONE OF THE MOST URGENT AND PRESSING CHALLENGES
OF
URGENT AND PRESSING CHALLENGES OF OUR TIME.
THE
OF OUR TIME. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
CONSIDER
THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS CONSIDER MEANINGFUL ACTION ON
CLIMATE
CONSIDER MEANINGFUL ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE TO BE A MORAL
AND
CLIMATE CHANGE TO BE A MORAL AND ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE.
AND
AND ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE. AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND
AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE FRIENDS ON THIS
COMMITTEE,
AND THEY HAVE FRIENDS ON THIS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING MYSELF.
AND
COMMITTEE, INCLUDING MYSELF. AND OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO ARE
HERE
AND OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO ARE HERE TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS.
CLIMATE
HERE TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS. CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.
THE
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL. THE EMISSIONS WE PRODUCE FROM
BURNING
THE EMISSIONS WE PRODUCE FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS ARE MAKING
IT
BURNING FOSSIL FUELS ARE MAKING IT WORSE.
IT'S
IT WORSE. IT'S A THREAT TO OUR PUBLIC
HEALTH.
,
HEALTH. , NATIONAL SECURITY,
INFRASTRUCTURE,
, NATIONAL SECURITY, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND NATURAL
RESOURCES.
WE
RESOURCES. WE ARE SEEING THE IMPACTS NOW.
AND
WE ARE SEEING THE IMPACTS NOW. AND THEY WILL GROW STRONGER
UNLESS
AND THEY WILL GROW STRONGER UNLESS WE CHANGE COURSE.
OUR
UNLESS WE CHANGE COURSE. OUR COMMUNITIES ARE PAYING THE
PRICE
OUR COMMUNITIES ARE PAYING THE PRICE FOR YEARS OF INACTION ON
THIS
PRICE FOR YEARS OF INACTION ON THIS ISSUE.
THE
THIS ISSUE. THE MASS OF UNPRECEDENTED
STORMS,
THE MASS OF UNPRECEDENTED STORMS, HEAT WAVES, FIRES, AND
DROUGHTS
STORMS, HEAT WAVES, FIRES, AND DROUGHTS WE ARE EXPERIENCING
ARE
DROUGHTS WE ARE EXPERIENCING ARE NOT NORMAL.
THEY'RE
ARE NOT NORMAL. THEY'RE BEING MADE WORSE BY
CLIMATE
THEY'RE BEING MADE WORSE BY CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND
CLIMATE CHANGE. AND IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION
NOW,
AND IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION NOW, WE'RE ONLY AT THE
BEGINNING
NOW, WE'RE ONLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.
THE
BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN
THE
THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN THE FOUR HOTTEST YEARS EVER
RECORDED.
ICE
RECORDED. ICE SHEETS ARE MELTING FAR
FASTER
ICE SHEETS ARE MELTING FAR FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT.
THE
FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT. THE COAST OF ALASKA IS
LITERALLY
THE COAST OF ALASKA IS LITERALLY DISAPPEARING INTO THE
OCEAN.
INDIGENOUS
OCEAN. INDIGENOUS VILLAGES ARE ALL
READY
INDIGENOUS VILLAGES ARE ALL READY HAVING TO RELOCATE.
WE
READY HAVING TO RELOCATE. WE WILL SEE MORE CLIMATE
REFUGEES
WE WILL SEE MORE CLIMATE REFUGEES AS TIME GOES ON.
PARTEDS
REFUGEES AS TIME GOES ON. PARTEDS OF OUR PLANET WHERE
PEOPLE
PARTEDS OF OUR PLANET WHERE PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVE MAY VERY
WELL
PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVE MAY VERY WELL BECOME UNINHABITABLE.
EVERYDAY
WELL BECOME UNINHABITABLE. EVERYDAY THAT WE FAIL TO ACT
INCREASES
EVERYDAY THAT WE FAIL TO ACT INCREASES THE COST OF
ADDRESSING
INCREASES THE COST OF ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS FOR
FUTURE
ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
PUTTING
FUTURE GENERATIONS. PUTTING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND,
PUTS
PUTTING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND, PUTS PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK AND
OUR
PUTS PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK AND OUR NATION'S SAFETY IN
JEOPARDY.
TODAY
JEOPARDY. TODAY WE TURN THE PAGE ON THIS
COMMITTEE
TODAY WE TURN THE PAGE ON THIS COMMITTEE FROM CLIMATE CHANGE
DENIAL
COMMITTEE FROM CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL TO CLIMATE ACTION.
THE
DENIAL TO CLIMATE ACTION. THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IS HERE
TO
THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IS HERE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE.
TO
TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE. TO WORK FOR PEOPLE.
TO
TO WORK FOR PEOPLE. TO HEAR FROM AMERICANS ACROSS
THE
TO HEAR FROM AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM ALL WALKS OF
LIFE
THE COUNTRY FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE WHOSE EXPERIENCES
EMPHASIZE
LIFE WHOSE EXPERIENCES EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO ADDRESS
THIS
EMPHASIZE THE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS.
THE
THIS CRISIS. THE REST OF THE WORLD
UNDERSTANDS
THE REST OF THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS THE URGENT NEED TO
TAKE
UNDERSTANDS THE URGENT NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE
TAKE ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
CHOOSES
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CHOOSES TO MOCK SCIENCE,
MISLEAD
CHOOSES TO MOCK SCIENCE, MISLEAD THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT
OUR
MISLEAD THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT OUR COUNTRY WILL LOOK LIKE IF
WE
OUR COUNTRY WILL LOOK LIKE IF WE DO NOTHING.
PRESIDENT
WE DO NOTHING. PRESIDENT TRUMP -- AS PRESIDENT
TRUMP
PRESIDENT TRUMP -- AS PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPANDS FOSSIL FUEL
PRODUCTION
TRUMP EXPANDS FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTION ON PUBLIC LANDS,
ROLE
PRODUCTION ON PUBLIC LANDS, ROLE BACK PROTECTIONS FOR CLEAN
AIR
ROLE BACK PROTECTIONS FOR CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER, SUPPRESS
THE
AIR AND CLEAN WATER, SUPPRESS THE WORLD OF SCIENCE AND TURN
HIS
THE WORLD OF SCIENCE AND TURN HIS BACK ON INTERNATIONAL
AGREEMENTS,
HIS BACK ON INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, WE HAVE SITUATIONS,
STATES,
AGREEMENTS, WE HAVE SITUATIONS, STATES, LOCAL COMMUNITY
LEADERS,
STATES, LOCAL COMMUNITY LEADERS, BUSINESSES, AND MANY
OTHERS
LEADERS, BUSINESSES, AND MANY OTHERS ARE STEPPING UP.
THEY
OTHERS ARE STEPPING UP. THEY CAN'T WAIT FOR ACTION FROM
THE
THEY CAN'T WAIT FOR ACTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT APPEARS
NOT
THE ADMINISTRATION THAT APPEARS NOT TO CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN
WELL
NOT TO CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN WELL BEING.
AND
WELL BEING. AND OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
THIS
AND OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
AMERICAN
THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS TO LEAD
THE
AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS TO LEAD THE WAY TO CREATING AND
DEPLOYING
THE WAY TO CREATING AND DEPLOYING NEW ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES
DEPLOYING NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES THE WORLD WILL
NEED.
BUT
NEED. BUT WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES IN
IMMINENT
BUT WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES IN IMMINENT DANGER, WE KNOW THAT
WE
IMMINENT DANGER, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE THAN INNOVATION.
WE
WE NEED MORE THAN INNOVATION. WE NEED GOOD POLICIES.
CLIMATE
WE NEED GOOD POLICIES. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A MATTER OF
SOCIAL
CLIMATE CHANGE IS A MATTER OF SOCIAL JUSTICE.
COMMUNITIES
SOCIAL JUSTICE. COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AND TRIBES ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY
AND TRIBES ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
CLIMATE
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE AND WILL
CONTINUE
CLIMATE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE UNLESS WE
TAKE
CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE UNLESS WE TAKE ACTION.
ALONG
TAKE ACTION. ALONG WITH TESTIMONY FROM OUR
WITNESSES
ALONG WITH TESTIMONY FROM OUR WITNESSES TODAY, I INVITE THE
PUBLIC
WITNESSES TODAY, I INVITE THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEIR CLIMATE
CRISIS
PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEIR CLIMATE CRISIS STORIES AT
NATURALRESOURCES.HOUSE.GOV.
I'D
NATURALRESOURCES.HOUSE.GOV. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE JUST
ONE
I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE JUST ONE OF THE MANY STORIES WE'VE
ALL
ONE OF THE MANY STORIES WE'VE ALL READY HEARD FROM THE
PUBLIC.
THIS
PUBLIC. THIS IS FROM A WOMAN NAMED
KATIE
THIS IS FROM A WOMAN NAMED KATIE DAVIS WHO WORKED IN
CALIFORNIA.
LAST
CALIFORNIA. LAST JULY, QUOTE, LAST JULY ON
A
LAST JULY, QUOTE, LAST JULY ON A FREAKISHLY HOT NIGHT THAT
BROKE
A FREAKISHLY HOT NIGHT THAT BROKE RECORDS ACROSS SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA,
BROKE RECORDS ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, A FIRE SUDDENLY
BROKE
CALIFORNIA, A FIRE SUDDENLY BROKE OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
DUE
BROKE OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO HOT WINDS.
THE
DUE TO HOT WINDS. THE LIKES OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER
FELT
THE LIKES OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER FELT BEFORE.
THAT
FELT BEFORE. THAT PUSHED FLAMES TOWARD US
RAPIDLY.
IT
RAPIDLY. IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST
TERRIFYING
IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST TERRIFYING MOMENTS OF MY LIFE.
WE
TERRIFYING MOMENTS OF MY LIFE. WE RAN OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH
NOTHING,
WE RAN OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH NOTHING, NO TIME TO PREPARE AND
FLED.
OUR
FLED. OUR HOUSE SURVIVED WITH MINOR
DAMAGE.
BUT
DAMAGE. BUT THAT ANGUISHING NIGHT --
BUT
BUT THAT ANGUISHING NIGHT -- BUT ON THAT ANGUISHING NIGHT,
MOST
BUT ON THAT ANGUISHING NIGHT, MOST OF THE HOUSES ON OUR
STREET
MOST OF THE HOUSES ON OUR STREET BURNED DOWN.
I
STREET BURNED DOWN. I LOOK AT THE FOUNDATIONS OF
FIVE
I LOOK AT THE FOUNDATIONS OF FIVE BURNED DOWN HOUSES AS I
WRITE
FIVE BURNED DOWN HOUSES AS I WRITE THIS.
THESE
WRITE THIS. THESE ARE THE STORIES WE NEED
TO
THESE ARE THE STORIES WE NEED TO HEAR.
IN
TO HEAR. IN THIS COMMITTEE AND IN THIS
CONGRESS.
THE
CONGRESS. THE BEST POLICIES ARE INFORMED
BY
THE BEST POLICIES ARE INFORMED BY A COMBINATION OF SOUND
SCIENCE
BY A COMBINATION OF SOUND SCIENCE AND INFORMED PUBLIC
INPUT.
THESE
INPUT. THESE ARE THE GUIDES FOR OUR
HEARING.
BOTH
HEARING. BOTH TODAY AND EVERYTHING WE DO
IN
BOTH TODAY AND EVERYTHING WE DO IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
CLIMATE
IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN URGENT
PROBLEM.
IT
PROBLEM. IT DEMANDS URGENT ACTION AND A
SENSE
IT DEMANDS URGENT ACTION AND A SENSE OF PURPOSE FROM CONGRESS.
THIS
SENSE OF PURPOSE FROM CONGRESS. THIS COMMITTEE WILL OFFER BOTH.
I
THIS COMMITTEE WILL OFFER BOTH. I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN TO
THE
I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE WITNESSES.
I
THE WITNESSES. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
TESTIMONY.
AND
TESTIMONY. AND I NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING
MEMBER,
AND I NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. BISHOP, FOR HIS
OPENING
MEMBER, MR. BISHOP, FOR HIS OPENING STATEMENT.
>>
OPENING STATEMENT. >> CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
FIRST
>> CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST FULL COMMITTEE CHAIRING.
I
FIRST FULL COMMITTEE CHAIRING. I KNOW YOU HAD A RANKING MEMBER
CHAIRMANSHIP
I KNOW YOU HAD A RANKING MEMBER CHAIRMANSHIP AT THE TIME.
BUT
CHAIRMANSHIP AT THE TIME. BUT THAT WAS A LONG, LONG TIME
AGO.
SO
AGO. SO I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE
O.
SO I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE O. HAPPY TO BE HERE FOR THIS
PARTICULAR
O. HAPPY TO BE HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION.
I
PARTICULAR DISCUSSION. I KNOW YOU HAVE MADE FEBRUARY
CLIMATE
I KNOW YOU HAVE MADE FEBRUARY CLIMATE CHANGE MONTH.
I
CLIMATE CHANGE MONTH. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU
PICKED
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU PICKED THE SHORTEDDEST --
SHORTEST
PICKED THE SHORTEDDEST -- SHORTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR TO
DO
SHORTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR TO DO THAT.
ALSO
DO THAT. ALSO IT HAPPENS TO BE BLACK
HISTORY
ALSO IT HAPPENS TO BE BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
WHICH
HISTORY MONTH. WHICH I WISH WE COULD DEAL WITH
SOME
WHICH I WISH WE COULD DEAL WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.
BECAUSE
SOME OTHER THINGS. BECAUSE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
THIS
BECAUSE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE
SIGNIFICANT
THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES IN THE AREA
OF
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES IN THE AREA OF LANDS AND PROJECTS.
WE'VE
OF LANDS AND PROJECTS. WE'VE EXPANDED THE MARTIN
LUTHER
WE'VE EXPANDED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HOME HISTORIC SITE.
AS
LUTHER KING HOME HISTORIC SITE. AS WELL AS LITTLE ROCK HIGH
SCHOOL
AS WELL AS LITTLE ROCK HIGH SCHOOL AND CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL
IN
SCHOOL AND CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL IN LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS, WHICH
I
IN LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS, WHICH I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF GOING
TO
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF GOING TO THIS SUMMER AND WAS AMAZED
AT
TO THIS SUMMER AND WAS AMAZED AT HOW GREAT THAT WAS AS A
NARRATIVE
AT HOW GREAT THAT WAS AS A NARRATIVE HISTORY OF WHAT'S
GOING
NARRATIVE HISTORY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE'LL
GOING ON. WE'LL HAVE A PACKAGE PUSHING
OVER
WE'LL HAVE A PACKAGE PUSHING OVER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
METGER
OVER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE METGER EVERS NATIONAL MONUMENT.
WE
METGER EVERS NATIONAL MONUMENT. WE ALSO DID THE KENNEDY KING
HISTORIC
WE ALSO DID THE KENNEDY KING HISTORIC AREA IN INDIANA THIS
PARTICULAR
HISTORIC AREA IN INDIANA THIS PARTICULAR YEAR AS WELL AS THE
AFRICAN
PARTICULAR YEAR AS WELL AS THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS
NETWORK
AFRICAN AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS NETWORK AND REAUTHORIZING
HISTORICALLY
NETWORK AND REAUTHORIZING HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITY
HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY PRESERVATION GRANT
PROGRAMS.
ALL
PROGRAMS. ALL OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE PER
PURVIEW
ALL OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE PER PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.
THAT'S
PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE. THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION.
TALKING
THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION. TALKING ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS
TALKING ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE.
IN
THINGS WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE. IN THE ONES I HAVE JUST LISTED
TO
IN THE ONES I HAVE JUST LISTED TO YOU, ALSO, THERE'S A 41
MILLION-DOLLAR
TO YOU, ALSO, THERE'S A 41 MILLION-DOLLAR MAINTENANCE
BACKLOG
MILLION-DOLLAR MAINTENANCE BACKLOG JUST ON THE PROGRAMS I
JUST
BACKLOG JUST ON THE PROGRAMS I JUST ENUNCIATED.
TALKING
JUST ENUNCIATED. TALKING ABOUT THAT IS IN THE
JURISDICTION
TALKING ABOUT THAT IS IN THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE.
THE
JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE. THE CHAIRMAN HAS BEEN GOOD IN
HELPING
THE CHAIRMAN HAS BEEN GOOD IN HELPING US COME UP WITH WAYS OF
FUNDING
HELPING US COME UP WITH WAYS OF FUNDING THAT MAINTENANCE
BACKLOG.
IN
BACKLOG. IN THE PAST, I HOPE WE CAN GET
TO
IN THE PAST, I HOPE WE CAN GET TO THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES
WHICH
TO THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES WHICH WOULD BE EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT.
ALL
IMPORTANT. ALL RIGHT, NOW FOCUSING ON TO
TOPIC
ALL RIGHT, NOW FOCUSING ON TO TOPIC OF THIS ONE, THIS
PARTICULAR
TOPIC OF THIS ONE, THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, IT IS MY
HOPE
PARTICULAR MEETING, IT IS MY HOPE THAT WHAT WE DO IS COMING
UP
HOPE THAT WHAT WE DO IS COMING UP WITH WAYS WE CAN ACTUALLY
HELP
UP WITH WAYS WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE.
UTAH
HELP PEOPLE. UTAH FOR EXAMPLE HAS HAD
TERRIBLE
UTAH FOR EXAMPLE HAS HAD TERRIBLE AIR.
IT'S
TERRIBLE AIR. IT'S PART OF THE TOPOGRAPHY.
ESPECIALLY
IT'S PART OF THE TOPOGRAPHY. ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME.
SIMPLY
ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME. SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS
OF
SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF THE STATE OF UTAH.
EPA
OF THE STATE OF UTAH. EPA AND OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES
OVER
EPA AND OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS HAVEN'T
DONE
OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS HAVEN'T DONE SQUAT.
BUT
DONE SQUAT. BUT THE STATE HAS MADE MAJOR
CHANGES.
AND
CHANGES. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT
HOW
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO THOSE TYPES OF
CHANGES.
I
CHANGES. I APPRECIATE THE FACT WE HAVE
TWO
I APPRECIATE THE FACT WE HAVE TWO GOVERNORS HERE WITH US
TODAY.
THANK
TODAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
ONCE
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
NICE
ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE KNOWN SOME OF THE
TOPICS
NICE TO HAVE KNOWN SOME OF THE TOPICS OF THIS HEARING.
EVEN
TOPICS OF THIS HEARING. EVEN THOUGH RULE 4C REQUIRES
THAT
EVEN THOUGH RULE 4C REQUIRES THAT TO BE THERE.
AND
THAT TO BE THERE. AND TRANSPARENCY REQUIRES THAT
WE
AND TRANSPARENCY REQUIRES THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO INVITE
ANOTHER
WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO INVITE ANOTHER GOVERNOR.
I
ANOTHER GOVERNOR. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE A
GOVERNOR
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE A GOVERNOR FROM THE WEST COME
HERE
GOVERNOR FROM THE WEST COME HERE AND JOIN YOU TWO.
SIMPLY
HERE AND JOIN YOU TWO. SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE
UNFORTUNATELY
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNFORTUNATELY IN THE MIDDLE OF
THEIR
UNFORTUNATELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.
THE
THEIR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. THE BEGINNING OF THEIR
LEGISLATIONS.
AND
LEGISLATIONS. AND COULD NOT MAKE IT IN SUCH
SHORT
AND COULD NOT MAKE IT IN SUCH SHORT NOTICE.
BUT
SHORT NOTICE. BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FEDERAL
LANDS
BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FEDERAL LANDS THAT WE HAVE -- FOR WHICH
WE
LANDS THAT WE HAVE -- FOR WHICH WE HAVE JURISDICTION THAT WOULD
BE
WE HAVE JURISDICTION THAT WOULD BE AN INPUT.
BUT
BE AN INPUT. BUT I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN
ENLIGHTEN
BUT I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN ENLIGHTEN US.
EVEN
ENLIGHTEN US. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ONLY
GOVERNORS.
YOU'RE
GOVERNORS. YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEE ONS
THAT
YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEE ONS THAT WORK IN THE OUTER HINDER
LANDS
THAT WORK IN THE OUTER HINDER LANDS OF AMERICA.
THAT
LANDS OF AMERICA. THAT REALLY AREN'T AS IMPORTANT
AS
THAT REALLY AREN'T AS IMPORTANT AS WE HEAR IN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
SO
GOVERNMENT. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR GRAVELING
BEFORE
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR GRAVELING BEFORE US.
BECAUSE
BEFORE US. BECAUSE ALL OF US AND THE
AGENCIES
BECAUSE ALL OF US AND THE AGENCIES BREATHE THE RAREFIED
AIR
AGENCIES BREATHE THE RAREFIED AIR AND DRINK THE LEATHERED
WATER
AIR AND DRINK THE LEATHERED WATER OF WASHINGTON.
THERE
WATER OF WASHINGTON. THERE FOR WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
IS
THERE FOR WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS RIGHT TO DO.
AND
IS RIGHT TO DO. AND FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY COME
HERE
AND FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY COME HERE ON HANDS AND KNEES, I
APPRECIATE
HERE ON HANDS AND KNEES, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I
APPRECIATE THAT. I HOPE IN THE PROCESS, YOU CAN
GIVE
I HOPE IN THE PROCESS, YOU CAN GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF WHAT
Y'ALL
GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO IN YOUR
STATES.
HOW
STATES. HOW MAYBE PERMITTING PROCESS WE
CAN
HOW MAYBE PERMITTING PROCESS WE CAN WORK WITH YOU EASIER TO
ACTUALLY
CAN WORK WITH YOU EASIER TO ACTUALLY ALLOW STATES TO BECOME
PARTNERS
ACTUALLY ALLOW STATES TO BECOME PARTNERS WITH US INSTEAD OF
BEING
PARTNERS WITH US INSTEAD OF BEING DOMINATED BY US TO FIND
REAL
BEING DOMINATED BY US TO FIND REAL SOLUTIONS FOR REAL PEOPLE.
THAT
REAL SOLUTIONS FOR REAL PEOPLE. THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF
WHAT
THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.
AS
WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO. AS I SAID, UTAH HAS AMAZINGLY
BAD
AS I SAID, UTAH HAS AMAZINGLY BAD AIR IN THE WINTER.
IT'S
BAD AIR IN THE WINTER. IT'S PART OF THE TOPOGRAPHY,
WHEN
IT'S PART OF THE TOPOGRAPHY, WHEN IT'S SNOWING ON THE
GROUND,
WHEN IT'S SNOWING ON THE GROUND, THE MOUNTAINS PROHIBIT
WIND
GROUND, THE MOUNTAINS PROHIBIT WIND GUSTS FROM CLEANING OUT
THE
WIND GUSTS FROM CLEANING OUT THE ATMOSPHERE.
WE
THE ATMOSPHERE. WE NEVER HAVE BAD WEATHER IN
THE
WE NEVER HAVE BAD WEATHER IN THE SUMMER.
EXCEPT
THE SUMMER. EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR.
WHICH
EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR. WHICH MEANT THAT AS EVERY
FOREST
WHICH MEANT THAT AS EVERY FOREST BURNED IN CALIFORNIA, A
WEEK
FOREST BURNED IN CALIFORNIA, A WEEK LATER, WE WERE BREATHING
THE
WEEK LATER, WE WERE BREATHING THE AIR OF THE BURNED
CALIFORNIA.
AND
CALIFORNIA. AND THAT WAS THE UNIQUE.
AND
AND THAT WAS THE UNIQUE. AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
UNLESS
AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. UNLESS WE ACTUALLY CAN DO
SOMETHING
UNLESS WE ACTUALLY CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
WHICH
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. WHICH IS WHY THE FRUSTRATION I
HAD
WHICH IS WHY THE FRUSTRATION I HAD WITH THE SENATE, USING THE
FILIBUSTER
HAD WITH THE SENATE, USING THE FILIBUSTER TO GET MOST OF THE
FIRE
FILIBUSTER TO GET MOST OF THE FIRE REFORMS THAT WE PAST,
THAT'S
FIRE REFORMS THAT WE PAST, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
IS
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IN THE JURISDICTION OF THIS
COMMITTEE.
AND
COMMITTEE. AND I WISH WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT
AND I WISH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
IF
ABOUT THAT. IF WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO
CONTROL
IF WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO CONTROL FOREST FIRES BY
DIFFERENT
CONTROL FOREST FIRES BY DIFFERENT MANAGING SYSTEMS.
THEN
DIFFERENT MANAGING SYSTEMS. THEN OUR EXPERT LIKE MR.
WESERMAN.
AND
WESERMAN. AND THE EXPERTS IN THE OBAMA
AND
AND THE EXPERTS IN THE OBAMA AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TOLD
US
AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TOLD US THEY NEEDED TO DO TO MANAGE
THE
US THEY NEEDED TO DO TO MANAGE THE LANDS, WE COULD ACTUALLY
HELP
THE LANDS, WE COULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S
HELP WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOO.
EVEN
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOO. EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
WHO
EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE -- WELL -- CARBON
SEQUESTRATION.
IF
SEQUESTRATION. IF WE ACTUALLY WANT TO GET
CARBON
IF WE ACTUALLY WANT TO GET CARBON OUT OF THE AIR.
THERE'S
CARBON OUT OF THE AIR. THERE'S NEW STUDIES BEING DONE
IN
THERE'S NEW STUDIES BEING DONE IN PORTUGAL, AUSTRALIA AND THE
UNITED
IN PORTUGAL, AUSTRALIA AND THE UNITED STATES.
USING
UNITED STATES. USING PLANT LIFE TO SUCK IT OUT
OF
USING PLANT LIFE TO SUCK IT OUT OF THE AIR TO BRING IT OUT OF
THE
OF THE AIR TO BRING IT OUT OF THE AIR INTO THE GROUND WHERE
IT
THE AIR INTO THE GROUND WHERE IT CAN BE USEFUL TO PLANT LIFE.
AND
IT CAN BE USEFUL TO PLANT LIFE. AND ALSO CLEAN THE AIR.
THOSE
AND ALSO CLEAN THE AIR. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DO
TO
THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DO TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC ISSUES.
I
TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC ISSUES. I HAVE TO MENTION, I'M KIND OF
A
I HAVE TO MENTION, I'M KIND OF A LOSS, I DO NOT KNOW WHERE
THIS
A LOSS, I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THIS HEARING IS GOING.
OR
THIS HEARING IS GOING. OR THE OTHER SIX HEARINGS YOU
PLAN.
BECAUSE
PLAN. BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY HAVEN'T TOLD
US
BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY HAVEN'T TOLD US WHERE THE GOAL IS.
AT
US WHERE THE GOAL IS. AT SOME POINT, WE MAY BE
ASKING,
AT SOME POINT, WE MAY BE ASKING, WHERE ARE WE GOING?
WHAT'S
ASKING, WHERE ARE WE GOING? WHAT'S THE REAL LEGISLATION
THAT'S
WHAT'S THE REAL LEGISLATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP PEOPLE
TO
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP PEOPLE TO COME OUT OF THESE HEARINGS.
TO
TO COME OUT OF THESE HEARINGS. TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE HEARINGS
ARE
TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE HEARINGS ARE FOR THOSE OF US AROUND THE
HORSE
ARE FOR THOSE OF US AROUND THE HORSE SHOE THAT MAKE
LEGISLATION,
HORSE SHOE THAT MAKE LEGISLATION, OR ARE THE
HEARINGS
LEGISLATION, OR ARE THE HEARINGS DESIGNED FOR THAT
GROUP
HEARINGS DESIGNED FOR THAT GROUP SITTING AT A TABLE IN A
CORNER
GROUP SITTING AT A TABLE IN A CORNER SO THEY CAN WRITE CUTE
STORIES.
ONCE
STORIES. ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT BEEN
GIVEN
ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE DETAILS OF WHERE
THESE
GIVEN THE DETAILS OF WHERE THESE HEARINGS ARE GOING.
WE
THESE HEARINGS ARE GOING. WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IN
THE
WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND
THE FUTURE. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO
GET
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED ON THIS WONDERFUL
NEW
GET STARTED ON THIS WONDERFUL NEW ADVENTURE.
IN
NEW ADVENTURE. IN THE MONTH THAT ONLY HAS 28
DAYS.
BUT
DAYS. BUT I WOULD LIKE RULE 4C TO BE
INSTITUTED
BUT I WOULD LIKE RULE 4C TO BE INSTITUTED SO THAT WE CAN
ACTUALLY
INSTITUTED SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE GREATER
UNDERSTANDING
ACTUALLY HAVE GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND PREPARATION
SO
UNDERSTANDING AND PREPARATION SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE
FULLY
SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE FULLY WITH YOU IN THESE
HEARINGS.
AND
HEARINGS. AND GOVERNORS, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING
AND GOVERNORS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THANK
JOINING US. THANK YOU FOR GRAVELING BEFORE
US.
I'M
US. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR
TESTIMONY.
.
>>
. >> THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP.
AND
>> THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IN
TERMS
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IN TERMS OF ALL THE AREAS OF
JURISDICTION,
TERMS OF ALL THE AREAS OF JURISDICTION, AND ON THIS
PARTICULAR
JURISDICTION, AND ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC THAT I THINK
HAS
PARTICULAR TOPIC THAT I THINK HAS -- HAS SIGNIFICANCE AND
CONSEQUENCES
HAS -- HAS SIGNIFICANCE AND CONSEQUENCES OVER ALL OUR
JURISDICTIONS
CONSEQUENCES OVER ALL OUR JURISDICTIONS THAT THIS
COMMITTEE'S
JURISDICTIONS THAT THIS COMMITTEE'S UNDER THAT WILL
APTLY
COMMITTEE'S UNDER THAT WILL APTLY BE ABLE TO WALK.
WE
APTLY BE ABLE TO WALK. WE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS.
AND
WE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS. AND LET ME FIRST.
THANK
AND LET ME FIRST. THANK YOU.
I'D
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR FIRST
PANEL.
OUR
PANEL. OUR DISTINGUISHED PANEL.
WHICH
OUR DISTINGUISHED PANEL. WHICH CONSISTS OF THE GOVERNOR
OF
WHICH CONSISTS OF THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH CAROLINA.
THE
OF NORTH CAROLINA. THE HONORABLE ROY COOPER.
AND
THE HONORABLE ROY COOPER. AND THE GOVERNOR OF
MASSACHUSETTS,
AND THE GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS, THE HONORABLE
CHARLES
MASSACHUSETTS, THE HONORABLE CHARLES BAKER.
I
CHARLES BAKER. I APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE.
TAKING
I APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE. TAKING THE TIME.
IN
TAKING THE TIME. IN PARTICULAR, BRINGING AN
INSIGHT.
I
INSIGHT. I DONE KNOW IF IT'S SO MUCH A
QUESTION
I DONE KNOW IF IT'S SO MUCH A QUESTION OF GRAVELING BUT
SETTING
QUESTION OF GRAVELING BUT SETTING AN EXAMPLE WHERE,
ACROSS
SETTING AN EXAMPLE WHERE, ACROSS PARTY LINES, PEOPLE
CONFRONT
ACROSS PARTY LINES, PEOPLE CONFRONT THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE,
CONFRONT THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, THE AFFECTED ON THEIR
CONSTITUENTS,
CHANGE, THE AFFECTED ON THEIR CONSTITUENTS, AND BEGIN TO TAKE
ACTION.
I
ACTION. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
EXAMPLE
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT EXAMPLE THAT WE NEED TO REMIND
OURSELVES.
THAT
OURSELVES. THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT
IMPOTENT
THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT IMPOTENT TO DO NOTHING -- WE'RE
NOT
IMPOTENT TO DO NOTHING -- WE'RE NOT IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING
ABOUT
NOT IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
WE
ABOUT THIS. WE CAN.
AND
WE CAN. AND WE SHOULD.
AND
AND WE SHOULD. AND THE POINT IS THAT WE HAVE
ELECTED
AND THE POINT IS THAT WE HAVE ELECTED EXECUTIVES HERE,
GOVERNORS
ELECTED EXECUTIVES HERE, GOVERNORS WHO CAN SPEAK TO
THOSE
GOVERNORS WHO CAN SPEAK TO THOSE ISSUES TODAY.
AND
THOSE ISSUES TODAY. AND I WELCOME -- I WANT TO
PARTICULARLY
AND I WELCOME -- I WANT TO PARTICULARLY THANK GOVERNOR
BAKER
PARTICULARLY THANK GOVERNOR BAKER FOR SCHEDULING THE
PATRIOTS
BAKER FOR SCHEDULING THE PATRIOTS VICTORY PARADE
YESTERDAY
PATRIOTS VICTORY PARADE YESTERDAY SO THAT HE COULD BE
HERE
YESTERDAY SO THAT HE COULD BE HERE AND IT WOULDN'T CONFLICT
WITH
HERE AND IT WOULDN'T CONFLICT WITH THIS HEARING.
VERY
WITH THIS HEARING. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
UNDER
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. UNDER OUR COMMITTEE RULES, ORAL
STATEMENTS
UNDER OUR COMMITTEE RULES, ORAL STATEMENTS ARE ARE LIMITED TO
FIVE
STATEMENTS ARE ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES.
BUT
FIVE MINUTES. BUT YOUR ENTIRE STATEMENTS,
GOVERNORS,
BUT YOUR ENTIRE STATEMENTS, GOVERNORS, WILL APPEAR IN THE
HEARING
GOVERNORS, WILL APPEAR IN THE HEARING RECORD.
THE
HEARING RECORD. THE LIGHTS IN FRONT OF YOU WILL
TURN
THE LIGHTS IN FRONT OF YOU WILL TURN YELLOW WHEN THERE'S ONE
MINUTE
TURN YELLOW WHEN THERE'S ONE MINUTE LEFT IN THE
PRESENTATION.
AND
PRESENTATION. AND RED WHEN TIME IS UP.
AFTER
AND RED WHEN TIME IS UP. AFTER THE GOVERNORS, TESTIFYING
MEMBERS
AFTER THE GOVERNORS, TESTIFYING MEMBERS WILL BE GIVEN
OPPORTUNITY
MEMBERS WILL BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
I
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE
MEMBERS
I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, DUE
TO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, DUE TO COMMITMENTS, THE GOVERNORS
CAN
TO COMMITMENTS, THE GOVERNORS CAN ONLY BE HERE, WE HAVE A
HARD
CAN ONLY BE HERE, WE HAVE A HARD STOP OF 11:30.
DEPENDING
HARD STOP OF 11:30. DEPENDING ON HOW MANY MEMBERS
ARE
DEPENDING ON HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE HERE, WE MAY NEED TO
SHORTEN
ARE HERE, WE MAY NEED TO SHORTEN THE TIME EACH MEMBER
HAS
SHORTEN THE TIME EACH MEMBER HAS TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WITH
HAS TO ASK QUESTIONS. WITH THAT, THE CHAIR NOW
RECOGNIZES
WITH THAT, THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES GOVERNOR COOPER OF
NORTH
RECOGNIZES GOVERNOR COOPER OF NORTH CAROLINA FOR HIS
TESTIMONY,
NORTH CAROLINA FOR HIS TESTIMONY, WELCOME, SIR, THE
FLOOR
TESTIMONY, WELCOME, SIR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>>
FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR
HOSPITALITY.
THANK
HOSPITALITY. THANK YOU, RANKING MEMBER
BISHOP
THANK YOU, RANKING MEMBER BISHOP FOR YOUR EXPRESSION OF
HUMILITY
BISHOP FOR YOUR EXPRESSION OF HUMILITY THROUGH HUMOR.
THANKS
HUMILITY THROUGH HUMOR. THANKS TO ALL OF THE OTHER
MEMBERS
THANKS TO ALL OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, WE'RE
GRATEFUL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY.
AS
GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY. AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT AND NOW
IT'S
AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT AND NOW IT'S GOVERNOR, I KNOW NORTH
CAROLINA
IT'S GOVERNOR, I KNOW NORTH CAROLINA IS A FANTASTIC PLACE
TO
CAROLINA IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE, GROW A FAMILY.
AND
TO LIVE, GROW A FAMILY. AND HAVE A BUSINESS.
BETWEEN
AND HAVE A BUSINESS. BETWEEN OUR MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS,
MILES
BETWEEN OUR MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS, MILES OF COAST LAND, AND SCENIC
TOURIST
MILES OF COAST LAND, AND SCENIC TOURIST VENUES, A VISIT TO
NORTH
TOURIST VENUES, A VISIT TO NORTH CAROLINA IS BOUND TO BE
THE
NORTH CAROLINA IS BOUND TO BE THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE.
BUT
THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE. BUT JUST LIKE MANY PLACES IN
OUR
BUT JUST LIKE MANY PLACES IN OUR COUNTRY, AND ACROSS THE
GLOBE,
OUR COUNTRY, AND ACROSS THE GLOBE, WE'RE BEGINNING TO FEEL
THE
GLOBE, WE'RE BEGINNING TO FEEL THE HARSH EFFECTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE
THE HARSH EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND
OUR
CHANGE ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR ECONOMY.
SCIENTISTS
OUR ECONOMY. SCIENTISTS HAVE FOUND THAT
CLIMATE
SCIENTISTS HAVE FOUND THAT CLIMATE CHANGE MAKES WEATHER
MORE
CLIMATE CHANGE MAKES WEATHER MORE ERRATIC.
IT
MORE ERRATIC. IT MAKES STORMS LARGER AND MORE
POWERFUL.
AND
POWERFUL. AND IT INTENSIFIES HEAVY
RAINFALLS
AND IT INTENSIFIES HEAVY RAINFALLS AND DROUGHT.
NORTH
RAINFALLS AND DROUGHT. NORTH CAROLINIANS UNFORTUNATELY
KNOW
NORTH CAROLINIANS UNFORTUNATELY KNOW ABOUT THIS THE HARD WAY.
WE
KNOW ABOUT THIS THE HARD WAY. WE HAD WEATHERED TO SO-CALLED
500
WE HAD WEATHERED TO SO-CALLED 500 YEAR FLOODS WITHIN TWO
YEARS.
AND
YEARS. AND THREE OF THEM WITHIN 20
YEARS.
IN
YEARS. IN THE WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA
MOUNTAINS,
IN THE WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA MOUNTAINS, ERRATIC WEATHER HAS
CAUSED
MOUNTAINS, ERRATIC WEATHER HAS CAUSED MUD SLIDES, DAMAGED
INFRASTRUCTURE,
CAUSED MUD SLIDES, DAMAGED INFRASTRUCTURE, COST APPLE
GROWERS
INFRASTRUCTURE, COST APPLE GROWERS VALUABLE CROPS.
AND
GROWERS VALUABLE CROPS. AND FORCED SKI AREAS TO CLOSE
MID
AND FORCED SKI AREAS TO CLOSE MID SEASON, HURTING LOCAL
BUSINESSES
MID SEASON, HURTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PUTTING JOBS IN
JEOPARDY.
IN
JEOPARDY. IN CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA,
SOARING
IN CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA, SOARING SUMMER TEMPERATURES
HAVE
SOARING SUMMER TEMPERATURES HAVE KILLED POULTRY AND CROPS.
COSTING
HAVE KILLED POULTRY AND CROPS. COSTING FARMERS CRITICAL
INCOME.
FORT
INCOME. FORT BRAGG AND MILITARY OCEAN
TERMINAL
FORT BRAGG AND MILITARY OCEAN TERMINAL SUNNY POINT, TWO OF
THE
TERMINAL SUNNY POINT, TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS
THE MOST IMPORTANT MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN OUR COUNTRY
THAT
INSTALLATIONS IN OUR COUNTRY THAT ARE LOCATED IN NORTH
CAROLINA
THAT ARE LOCATED IN NORTH CAROLINA ARE LISTED AT CURRENT
AND
CAROLINA ARE LISTED AT CURRENT AND FUTURE RISK FOR WILDFIRES
AND
AND FUTURE RISK FOR WILDFIRES AND RECURRENT FLOODING
RESPECTIVELY
AND RECURRENT FLOODING RESPECTIVELY IN THE UNITED
STATES
RESPECTIVELY IN THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
REPORT
STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REPORT ON THE EFFECTS OF OUR
CHANGING
REPORT ON THE EFFECTS OF OUR CHANGING CLIMATE.
AND
CHANGING CLIMATE. AND THE WORST DAMAGE HAS BEEN
IN
AND THE WORST DAMAGE HAS BEEN IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA.
WHERE
IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA. WHERE WE NOW HAVE -- ARE MORE
VULNERABLE
WHERE WE NOW HAVE -- ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN EVER TO
DEVASTATING
VULNERABLE THAN EVER TO DEVASTATING STORMS AND FLOODS.
IN
DEVASTATING STORMS AND FLOODS. IN SEPTEMBER, JUST TWO YEARS
AFTER
IN SEPTEMBER, JUST TWO YEARS AFTER OUR STATE WAS DELUGED BY
HURRICANE
AFTER OUR STATE WAS DELUGED BY HURRICANE MATTHEW, HURRICANE
FLORENCE
HURRICANE MATTHEW, HURRICANE FLORENCE SLAMMED INTO NORTH
CAROLINA.
IT'S
CAROLINA. IT'S POWERFUL WINDS AND STORM
SURGE
IT'S POWERFUL WINDS AND STORM SURGE DECIMATED COASTAL
COMMUNITIES
SURGE DECIMATED COASTAL COMMUNITIES AND CRUSHED COASTAL
TOURISM
COMMUNITIES AND CRUSHED COASTAL TOURISM AND FISHERIES.
THE
TOURISM AND FISHERIES. THE STORM STAYED FOR DAYS.
DROPPING
THE STORM STAYED FOR DAYS. DROPPING TRILLIONS OF GALLONS
OF
DROPPING TRILLIONS OF GALLONS OF RAIN, INUNDATING
COMMUNITIES,
OF RAIN, INUNDATING COMMUNITIES, DROWNING CROPS,
AND
COMMUNITIES, DROWNING CROPS, AND BRINGING RIVERS TO HISTORIC
FLOOD
AND BRINGING RIVERS TO HISTORIC FLOOD LEVELS.
HURRICANE
FLOOD LEVELS. HURRICANE FLORENCE CAUSED AT
LEAST
HURRICANE FLORENCE CAUSED AT LEAST $17 BILLION IN DAMAGE.
AND
LEAST $17 BILLION IN DAMAGE. AND TRAGICALLY TOOK 43 LIVES.
THEN
AND TRAGICALLY TOOK 43 LIVES. THEN A MONTH LATER, TROPICAL
STORM
THEN A MONTH LATER, TROPICAL STORM MICHAEL TOOK ADDITIONAL
LIVES
STORM MICHAEL TOOK ADDITIONAL LIVES AND CAUSED MILLIONS MORE
IN
LIVES AND CAUSED MILLIONS MORE IN DAMAGE.
BUT
IN DAMAGE. BUT FOR THE SURVIVORS OF THESE
STORMS,
BUT FOR THE SURVIVORS OF THESE STORMS, THE TRUE COST IS
INCALCULABLE.
I'VE
INCALCULABLE. I'VE TRAVELED THE HARD HIT
COMMUNITIES
I'VE TRAVELED THE HARD HIT COMMUNITIES AND LISTENED TO
NORTH
COMMUNITIES AND LISTENED TO NORTH CAROLINIANS WHOSE LIVES
ARE
NORTH CAROLINIANS WHOSE LIVES ARE CHANGED FOREVER.
TIRELESS
ARE CHANGED FOREVER. TIRELESS FIRST RESPONDERS WHO
KEPT
TIRELESS FIRST RESPONDERS WHO KEPT SHOWING UP TO WORK EVEN
THOUGH
KEPT SHOWING UP TO WORK EVEN THOUGH THEIR OWN HOMES WERE
DESTROYED.
CHILDREN
DESTROYED. CHILDREN WHO WENT WEEKS WITHOUT
SCHOOLS.
FAMILIES
SCHOOLS. FAMILIES WHO'S LIVELIHOODS WERE
WASHED
FAMILIES WHO'S LIVELIHOODS WERE WASHED AWAY.
I
WASHED AWAY. I SPOKE WITH AN ELDERLY WOMAN
WHO
I SPOKE WITH AN ELDERLY WOMAN WHO WAS PULLED FROM FLOOD
WATERS
WHO WAS PULLED FROM FLOOD WATERS BY A FIRST RESPONDER,
BRINGING
WATERS BY A FIRST RESPONDER, BRINGING WITH HER, ONLY A FEW
POSSESSIONS
BRINGING WITH HER, ONLY A FEW POSSESSIONS THAT SHE COULD
CARRY.
WHEN
CARRY. WHEN I SAW HER AT A SHELTER, I
TOLD
WHEN I SAW HER AT A SHELTER, I TOLD HER HOW SORRY I WAS.
SHE
TOLD HER HOW SORRY I WAS. SHE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID I
THANK
SHE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID I THANK GOD I'M ALIVE.
I
THANK GOD I'M ALIVE. I THANK GOD FOR THAT
FIREFIGHTER
I THANK GOD FOR THAT FIREFIGHTER WHO PULLED ME TO
SAFETY.
AND
SAFETY. AND I THANK GOD FOR THESE
VOLUNTEERS
AND I THANK GOD FOR THESE VOLUNTEERS HERE IN THIS
SHELTER.
MANY
SHELTER. MANY OF THEM HAVE HAD THEIR OWN
HOMES
MANY OF THEM HAVE HAD THEIR OWN HOMES FLOODED.
I'M
HOMES FLOODED. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT.
THE
I'M GOING TO MAKE IT. THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH CAROLINA,
I
THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH CAROLINA, I HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP
HER
I HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP HER MAKE IT.
I
HER MAKE IT. I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP
ALL
I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP ALL OF OUR PEOPLE SAFE.
I
ALL OF OUR PEOPLE SAFE. I TOLD THEM WE HAVE TO DO
EVERYTHING
I TOLD THEM WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REBILL OUR
STATES
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REBILL OUR STATES STRONGER AND STRONGER.
AND
STATES STRONGER AND STRONGER. AND WE'RE PURSUING
UNPRECEDENTED
AND WE'RE PURSUING UNPRECEDENTED RECOVERY AND
RESILIENCY
UNPRECEDENTED RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY PLANS TO HELP NORTH
CAROLINIANS
RESILIENCY PLANS TO HELP NORTH CAROLINIANS GET BACK ON THEIR
FEET.
WE'RE
FEET. WE'RE ALSO MAKING A DIFFERENCE
TOGETHER.
I'M
TOGETHER. I'M PLEASED THAT MEMBERS OF OUR
CONGRESSIONAL
I'M PLEASED THAT MEMBERS OF OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND
FEDERAL
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE HELPING
PROVIDE
FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE HELPING PROVIDE MEANINGFUL RELIEF TO
NORTH
PROVIDE MEANINGFUL RELIEF TO NORTH CAROLINIANS HIT HARD BY
THE
NORTH CAROLINIANS HIT HARD BY THE STORM.
AND
THE STORM. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER
WITH
CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH YOU ON THE FEDERAL
APPROPRIATIONS
WITH YOU ON THE FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.
BUT
APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS. BUT WHEN STORMS ARE BECOMING
MORE
BUT WHEN STORMS ARE BECOMING MORE FIERCE, IT'S NOT ENOUGH
JUST
MORE FIERCE, IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO PICK UP THE PIECES.
WE
JUST TO PICK UP THE PIECES. WE MUST TAKE ACTION TO PREVENT
THIS
WE MUST TAKE ACTION TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF DEVASTATION IN THE
FUTURE.
I
FUTURE. I URGE CONGRESS AND ALL OF OUR
FEDERAL
I URGE CONGRESS AND ALL OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS TO MATCH THE
LEVEL
FEDERAL PARTNERS TO MATCH THE LEVEL OF DETERMINATION BROUGHT
TO
LEVEL OF DETERMINATION BROUGHT TO RECOVERY EFFORTS IN OUR
FIGHT
TO RECOVERY EFFORTS IN OUR FIGHT TO REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF
CLIMATE
FIGHT TO REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE
CLIMATE CHANGE. WE IN NORTH CAROLINA ARE DOING
OUR
WE IN NORTH CAROLINA ARE DOING OUR PART TO ADDRESS THOSE
EFFECTS.
I'VE
EFFECTS. I'VE SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
THAT
I'VE SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SETS A GOAL FOR OUR STATE
TO
THAT SETS A GOAL FOR OUR STATE TO ACHIEVE A 40% REDUCTION IN
GREENHOUSE
TO ACHIEVE A 40% REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GASES BY 2025.
NORTH
GREENHOUSE GASES BY 2025. NORTH CAROLINA IS SECOND IN THE
COUNTRY
NORTH CAROLINA IS SECOND IN THE COUNTRY IN SOLAR ENERGY.
AND
COUNTRY IN SOLAR ENERGY. AND MY ORDER DIRECTS MORE THAN
USE
AND MY ORDER DIRECTS MORE THAN USE OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
IT
USE OF RENEWABLE ENERGY. IT ORDERS STATE AGENCIES TO USE
MORE
IT ORDERS STATE AGENCIES TO USE MORE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES IN
OUR
MORE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES IN OUR MOTOR FLEET.
IT
OUR MOTOR FLEET. IT ORDERS A CLEAN ENERGY PLAN
AND
IT ORDERS A CLEAN ENERGY PLAN AND BETTER STATE BUILDING
EFFICIENCY.
IT
EFFICIENCY. IT ALSO DIRECTS OUR STATE
DEPARTMENT
IT ALSO DIRECTS OUR STATE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE TO GROW
OUR
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE TO GROW OUR STRONG, CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY
OUR STRONG, CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY BY SUPPORTING THE
EXPANSION
ECONOMY BY SUPPORTING THE EXPANSION OF CLEAN ENERGY
BUSINESS,
EXPANSION OF CLEAN ENERGY BUSINESS, SERVICE PROVIDERS,
AND
BUSINESS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND COMPANIES WITH COMMITMENTS
TO
AND COMPANIES WITH COMMITMENTS TO USING CLEAN ENERGY.
IN
TO USING CLEAN ENERGY. IN 2017, I ORDER THAT NORTH
CAROLINA
IN 2017, I ORDER THAT NORTH CAROLINA JOIN THE UNITED STATES
CLIMATE
CAROLINA JOIN THE UNITED STATES CLIMATE ALLIANCE OF BIPARTISAN
GROUP
CLIMATE ALLIANCE OF BIPARTISAN GROUP OF STATES FOCUSED ON
REDUCING
GROUP OF STATES FOCUSED ON REDUCING OUR POLLUTION AND
PROTECTING
REDUCING OUR POLLUTION AND PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT.
AND
PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND WHILE LOCAL AND STATE
ACTION
AND WHILE LOCAL AND STATE ACTION IS CRITICAL, FEDERAL
PARTNERS
ACTION IS CRITICAL, FEDERAL PARTNERS MUST JOIN US IN TAKING
ACTION
PARTNERS MUST JOIN US IN TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE
FROM
ACTION TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE FROM THE GROWING HARM OF
CLIMATE
FROM THE GROWING HARM OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE
CLIMATE CHANGE. WE NEED FEDERAL LEGISLATION AND
REGULATIONS
WE NEED FEDERAL LEGISLATION AND REGULATIONS THAT PROMOTE
EMISSION
REGULATIONS THAT PROMOTE EMISSION REDUCTIONS.
PRESERVATION
EMISSION REDUCTIONS. PRESERVATION OF FORESTS,
MARSHS,
PRESERVATION OF FORESTS, MARSHS, BARRIER ISLANDS AND
OTHER
MARSHS, BARRIER ISLANDS AND OTHER NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE
OTHER NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED FEDERAL LEADERSHIP TO
WORK
WE NEED FEDERAL LEADERSHIP TO WORK WITH GLOBAL PARTNERS TO
FULFILL
WORK WITH GLOBAL PARTNERS TO FULFILL AND STRENGTHEN OUR
INTERNATIONAL
FULFILL AND STRENGTHEN OUR INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
WE
INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. WE NEED CONSISTENT FEDERAL
ACTION
WE NEED CONSISTENT FEDERAL ACTION THAT MEETS THE URGENCY
OF
ACTION THAT MEETS THE URGENCY OF OUR GLOBAL CLIMATE PROBLEM,
OUR
OF OUR GLOBAL CLIMATE PROBLEM, OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR ECONOMY,
AND
OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR ECONOMY, AND OUR FUTURE DEPEND ON IT.
THANK
AND OUR FUTURE DEPEND ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
.
>>
. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH,
GOVERNOR.
MUCH
GOVERNOR. MUCH APPRECIATED.
LET
MUCH APPRECIATED. LET ME NOW TURN TO GOVERNOR
BAKER
LET ME NOW TURN TO GOVERNOR BAKER FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
THE
BAKER FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
>>
THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
AND
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. AND RANKING MEMBER BISHOP FOR
THOSE
AND RANKING MEMBER BISHOP FOR THOSE WARM WELCOMING REMARKS.
AND
THOSE WARM WELCOMING REMARKS. AND I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS
OF
AND I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR BEING HERE
AS
OF THE COMMITTEE FOR BEING HERE AS WELL AND INVITING ME TO
TESTIFY
AS WELL AND INVITING ME TO TESTIFY ON THE APPROACH THAT
MASSACHUSETTS
TESTIFY ON THE APPROACH THAT MASSACHUSETTS HAS TAKEN TO DEAL
WITH
MASSACHUSETTS HAS TAKEN TO DEAL WITH THE REAL CHALLENGE
ASSOCIATED
WITH THE REAL CHALLENGE ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATED
CHANGE.
THE
CHANGE. THE MASSACHUSETTS CLIMATE
CHANGE
THE MASSACHUSETTS CLIMATE CHANGE SHOT IN A PARTISAN I
ISSUE.
WHILE
ISSUE. WHILE WE SOMETIMES DISAGREE ON
SPECIFIC
WHILE WE SOMETIMES DISAGREE ON SPECIFIC POLICIES.
WE
SPECIFIC POLICIES. WE UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE AND
KNOW
WE UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE AND KNOW THE IMPACTS ARE REAL.
BECAUSE
KNOW THE IMPACTS ARE REAL. BECAUSE WE'RE EXPERIENCING THEM
FIRSTHAND.
SHORTLY
FIRSTHAND. SHORTLY AFTER I TOOK OFFICE IN
JANUARY
SHORTLY AFTER I TOOK OFFICE IN JANUARY OF 2015, THE SNOW
STARTED
JANUARY OF 2015, THE SNOW STARTED FALLING HARD.
AND
STARTED FALLING HARD. AND IT DIDN'T END FOR MONTHS.
LAST
AND IT DIDN'T END FOR MONTHS. LAST WINTER, WE SAW FOUR MAJOR
NOR'EASTERS
LAST WINTER, WE SAW FOUR MAJOR NOR'EASTERS SETTING RECORD
FLOOD
NOR'EASTERS SETTING RECORD FLOOD LEVELS AND CAUSING
SIGNIFICANT
FLOOD LEVELS AND CAUSING SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO NATURAL
RESOURCES
SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROPERTY.
RISING
RESOURCES AND PROPERTY. RISING TEMPERATURES HAVE LED TO
WARMER
RISING TEMPERATURES HAVE LED TO WARMER WINTERS, IMPACTING
INDUSTRIES
WARMER WINTERS, IMPACTING INDUSTRIES LIKE SKIING AND
AGRICULTURE.
CLIMATE
AGRICULTURE. CLIMATE CHANGE SALISBURY
WARMING
CLIMATE CHANGE SALISBURY WARMING OUR COASTAL WATERS AND
THREATENING
WARMING OUR COASTAL WATERS AND THREATENING SOME OF THE
NATION'S
THREATENING SOME OF THE NATION'S MOST IMPORTANT
COMMERCIAL
NATION'S MOST IMPORTANT COMMERCIAL FISHERIES.
MANY
COMMERCIAL FISHERIES. MANY OF THESE CHALLENGES ARE
NOT
MANY OF THESE CHALLENGES ARE NOT NEW.
THEY'RE
NOT NEW. THEY'RE MORE FREQUENT AND MORE
DAMAGING
THEY'RE MORE FREQUENT AND MORE DAMAGING THAN BEFORE.
WHILE
DAMAGING THAN BEFORE. WHILE RAISING TEMPERATURES AND
WARMER
WHILE RAISING TEMPERATURES AND WARMER WINTERS HAVE IMPACTED
WEATHER
WARMER WINTERS HAVE IMPACTED WEATHER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIES
LIKE
WEATHER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIES LIKE SKIING.
LOCAL
LIKE SKIING. LOCAL INDUSTRIES HAVE ADAPTED
TO
LOCAL INDUSTRIES HAVE ADAPTED TO THESE CHALLENGES BY
DIVERSIFYING
TO THESE CHALLENGES BY DIVERSIFYING THEIR BUSINESS TO
INCLUDE
DIVERSIFYING THEIR BUSINESS TO INCLUDE NONWINTER ACTIVITIES.
WHICH
INCLUDE NONWINTER ACTIVITIES. WHICH ACCOUNT FOR 60% OF THE
MOUNTAIN'S
WHICH ACCOUNT FOR 60% OF THE MOUNTAIN'S REVENUE.
IT'S
MOUNTAIN'S REVENUE. IT'S THE FIRST SKI MOUNTAIN IN
THE
IT'S THE FIRST SKI MOUNTAIN IN THE WORLD TO BE 100% POWERED BY
RENEWABLE
THE WORLD TO BE 100% POWERED BY RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE
RENEWABLE ENERGY. THE MAGNITUDE OF THE IMPACTS ON
CLIMATE
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE IMPACTS ON CLIMATE CHANGE REQUIRES ALL OF
US
CLIMATE CHANGE REQUIRES ALL OF US AT THE FEDERAL STATE AND
LOCAL
US AT THE FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS TO WORK TOGETHER.
THAT'S
LOCAL LEVELS TO WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S THE PATH WE'VE TAKEN IN
MASSACHUSETTS.
MASSACHUSETTS,
MASSACHUSETTS. MASSACHUSETTS, VIA BIPARTISAN
LEGISLATION,
MASSACHUSETTS, VIA BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION, WAS ONE OF THE
FIRST
LEGISLATION, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STATES IN THE NATION TO
ESTABLISH
FIRST STATES IN THE NATION TO ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM
REQUIREMENT
ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM REQUIREMENT TO REDUCE CARBON
EMISSIONS
REQUIREMENT TO REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS BY AT LEAST 80% BELOW
1990
EMISSIONS BY AT LEAST 80% BELOW 1990 LEVELS BY 2050.
WHILE
1990 LEVELS BY 2050. WHILE ALSO SETTING INTERIM
TARGETS.
WE'RE
TARGETS. WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO
REACHING
WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO REACHING OUR 2020 GOAL OF THE
25%
REACHING OUR 2020 GOAL OF THE 25% REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS.
THE
25% REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS. THE REGIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS
INITIATIVE,
THE REGIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS INITIATIVE, THE CAP IN TRADE
PROGRAM
INITIATIVE, THE CAP IN TRADE PROGRAM ENCOMPASSING LARGE
ELECTRIC
PROGRAM ENCOMPASSING LARGE ELECTRIC GENERATORS ALSO
PROVIDES
ELECTRIC GENERATORS ALSO PROVIDES A STABLE POLICY TO
REDUCE
PROVIDES A STABLE POLICY TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND ALLOW
STATES
REDUCE EMISSIONS AND ALLOW STATES TO INVEST IN COST
EFFECTIVE,
STATES TO INVEST IN COST EFFECTIVE, ENERGY EFFICIENCY
PROGRAMS.
THE
PROGRAMS. THE INVESTMENTS FROM THIS
INITIATIVE
THE INVESTMENTS FROM THIS INITIATIVE WILL SAVE RATE
PAYERS
INITIATIVE WILL SAVE RATE PAYERS ACROSS THE REGGIE STATES
AN
PAYERS ACROSS THE REGGIE STATES AN ESTIMATED $8.6 BILLION.
WE'VE
AN ESTIMATED $8.6 BILLION. WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED REGIONAL
PARTNERSHIPS
WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CANADIAN
PROVINCES
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CANADIAN PROVINCES AND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
UTILIZING
GOVERNMENT. UTILIZING THE STRENGTHS OF
DIFFERENT
UTILIZING THE STRENGTHS OF DIFFERENT REGIONS ALLOWS US TO
OBTAIN
DIFFERENT REGIONS ALLOWS US TO OBTAIN COMPETITIVE PRICING IN
PROJECTS
OBTAIN COMPETITIVE PRICING IN PROJECTS LIKE HYDRO POWER FROM
QUEBEC.
IN
QUEBEC. IN 2016, WE COMPETITIVELY BID
AND
IN 2016, WE COMPETITIVELY BID AND SELECTED AN OFFSHORE WIND
PROJECT
AND SELECTED AN OFFSHORE WIND PROJECT ON A FEDERAL LEASE AREA
THAT
PROJECT ON A FEDERAL LEASE AREA THAT WILL SAVE RATE PAYERS
MONEY
THAT WILL SAVE RATE PAYERS MONEY OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
THIS
MONEY OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
POSSIBLE
THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT OUR
PARTNERSHIP
POSSIBLE WITHOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
AND
GOVERNMENT. AND I APPLAUD CONGRESS FOR
PROVIDING
AND I APPLAUD CONGRESS FOR PROVIDING A PREDICTABLE
INVESTMENT
PROVIDING A PREDICTABLE INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT FOR THE
INDUSTRY.
AND
INDUSTRY. AND THE BUREAU OF OCEAN
MANAGEMENT
AND THE BUREAU OF OCEAN MANAGEMENT FOR WORKING WITH US
TO
MANAGEMENT FOR WORKING WITH US TO REVIEW THE PROJECT AND BUILD
A
TO REVIEW THE PROJECT AND BUILD A NEW INDUSTRY IN THE U.S. OFF
OUR
A NEW INDUSTRY IN THE U.S. OFF OUR EASTERN SHORES.
WE'VE
OUR EASTERN SHORES. WE'VE ALSO BEEN PREPARING FOR
THE
WE'VE ALSO BEEN PREPARING FOR THE ONGOING IMPACT OF CLIMATE
CHANGE.
OUR
CHANGE. OUR ADMINISTRATION RECENTLY
COMPLETED
OUR ADMINISTRATION RECENTLY COMPLETED A STATE HAZARD
MITIGATION
COMPLETED A STATE HAZARD MITIGATION AND CLIMATE
ADAPTATION
MITIGATION AND CLIMATE ADAPTATION PLAN.
LEVERAGING
ADAPTATION PLAN. LEVERAGING FEDERAL EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT
LEVERAGING FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY MONEY.
THE
MANAGEMENT AGENCY MONEY. THE PLAN IS THE FIRST IN THE
NATION
THE PLAN IS THE FIRST IN THE NATION TO FULLY INTEGRATE
FEDERAL
NATION TO FULLY INTEGRATE FEDERAL HAZARD MITIGATION
PLANNING
FEDERAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLANNING REQUIREMENTS WITH A
PROACTIVE
PLANNING REQUIREMENTS WITH A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO
ADDRESSING
PROACTIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THE IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE
ADDRESSING THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
OUR
CLIMATE CHANGE. OUR ADMINISTRATION SOUGHT TO
WORK
OUR ADMINISTRATION SOUGHT TO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES.
OUR
COMMUNITIES. OUR MUNICIPAL VULNERABILITY
PREPAREDNESS
OUR MUNICIPAL VULNERABILITY PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM PROVIDES
GRANTS
PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM PROVIDES GRANTS TO ASSESS
VULNERABILITIES
GRANTS TO ASSESS VULNERABILITIES AND PLAN FOR
AND
VULNERABILITIES AND PLAN FOR AND IMPLEMENT CLIMATE CHANGE,
ADAPTATION
AND IMPLEMENT CLIMATE CHANGE, ADAPTATION PROJECTS.
IMPORTANTLY,
ADAPTATION PROJECTS. IMPORTANTLY, THIS PROGRAM
ALLOWS
IMPORTANTLY, THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS COMMUNITIES THE
FLEXIBILITY
ALLOWS COMMUNITIES THE FLEXIBILITY THEY NEED TO DESIGN
SOLUTIONS
FLEXIBILITY THEY NEED TO DESIGN SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR THEIR
UNIQUE
SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR THEIR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES.
BASED
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCES IN
MASSACHUSETTS,
BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCES IN MASSACHUSETTS, I'D LIKE TO
SHARE
MASSACHUSETTS, I'D LIKE TO SHARE FOUR THEMES THAT I
BELIEVE
SHARE FOUR THEMES THAT I BELIEVE WILL HELP FURTHER
REDUCE
BELIEVE WILL HELP FURTHER REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
AND
REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND INCREASE RESILIENCY ACROSS
THE
AND INCREASE RESILIENCY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
FOR
THE COUNTRY. FOR OUR STATES AND LOCAL
COMMUNITIES,
FOR OUR STATES AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES, THEY NEED SUPPORT
FROM
COMMUNITIES, THEY NEED SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
MANY
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. MANY FEDERAL INITIATIVES ARE
ONLY
MANY FEDERAL INITIATIVES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE AFTER A DISASTER
OCCURS.
INCENTIVES
OCCURS. INCENTIVES SIMILAR TO OUR MVP
PROGRAM
INCENTIVES SIMILAR TO OUR MVP PROGRAM WOULD HELP COMMUNITIES
ADDRESS
PROGRAM WOULD HELP COMMUNITIES ADDRESS RESILIENCY ISSUES
BEFORE
ADDRESS RESILIENCY ISSUES BEFORE THE NEXT DISASTER.
SPENDING
BEFORE THE NEXT DISASTER. SPENDING PROGRAMS LIKE FEMA'S
INFRASTRUCTURE
SPENDING PROGRAMS LIKE FEMA'S INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS AND
INCREASING
INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS AND INCREASING FUNDING AVAILABLE TO
STATES
INCREASING FUNDING AVAILABLE TO STATES WOULD ACCELERATE
EXISTING
STATES WOULD ACCELERATE EXISTING EFFORTS AND GALVINIZE
NEW
EXISTING EFFORTS AND GALVINIZE NEW ONES.
BIPARTISAN
NEW ONES. BIPARTISAN INTEREST IN
INFRASTRUCTURE
BIPARTISAN INTEREST IN INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING ALSO
HOLDS
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING ALSO HOLDS TREMENDOUS PROMISE TO NOT
ONLY
HOLDS TREMENDOUS PROMISE TO NOT ONLY REPAIR AND MODERNIZE OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE,
ONLY REPAIR AND MODERNIZE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO MAKE A
RESILIENT
INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO MAKE A RESILIENT CHANGE IN WEATHER.
FEDERAL
RESILIENT CHANGE IN WEATHER. FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE
LEGISLATION
FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE LEGISLATION SHOULD INCORPORATE
CONSIDERATION
LEGISLATION SHOULD INCORPORATE CONSIDERATION OF CLIMATE CHANGE
EMISSIONS,
CONSIDERATION OF CLIMATE CHANGE EMISSIONS, VULNERABILITY AND
DESIGN
EMISSIONS, VULNERABILITY AND DESIGN STANDARDS THAT REFLECT
THAT
DESIGN STANDARDS THAT REFLECT THAT CHANGING CLIMATE.
BOTH
THAT CHANGING CLIMATE. BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS
BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS ALSO NEED TO
DEVELOP
GOVERNMENTS ALSO NEED TO DEVELOP PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIPS
DEVELOP PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO BRING PRIVATE
SECTOR
PARTNERSHIPS TO BRING PRIVATE SECTOR DOLLARS INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES
SECTOR DOLLARS INTO OUR COMMUNITIES WHILE LEVERAGING
THE
COMMUNITIES WHILE LEVERAGING THE KNOWLEDGE AND STRATEGIC
THINKING
THE KNOWLEDGE AND STRATEGIC THINKING THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN
BRING
THINKING THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN BRING TO THIS CHALLENGE.
SECOND,
BRING TO THIS CHALLENGE. SECOND, WE NEED STRONG FEDERAL
LEADERSHIP
SECOND, WE NEED STRONG FEDERAL LEADERSHIP AND A BIPARTISAN
VISION
LEADERSHIP AND A BIPARTISAN VISION ON CLIMATE CHANGE THAT
PRIORITIZES
VISION ON CLIMATE CHANGE THAT PRIORITIZES PRACTICAL, MARKET
DRIVEN
PRIORITIZES PRACTICAL, MARKET DRIVEN AND COST EFFECTIVE
SOLUTIONS
DRIVEN AND COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS WHILE AFFORDING
STATES
SOLUTIONS WHILE AFFORDING STATES THE FLEXIBILITY TO
DESIGN
STATES THE FLEXIBILITY TO DESIGN STRATEGIES THAT WORK FOR
THEIR
DESIGN STRATEGIES THAT WORK FOR THEIR UNIQUE CHALLENGES.
WE
THEIR UNIQUE CHALLENGES. WE BELIEVE IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR
THE
WE BELIEVE IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
CREATE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CREATE A TARGET WITH RESPECT TO
EMISSION
CREATE A TARGET WITH RESPECT TO EMISSION REDUCTIONS THAT CAN
VARY
EMISSION REDUCTIONS THAT CAN VARY BY STATE OR REGION.
IN
VARY BY STATE OR REGION. IN OUR STATE'S EXPERIENCE,
SETTING
IN OUR STATE'S EXPERIENCE, SETTING AN AGGRESSIVE TARGET
FOR
SETTING AN AGGRESSIVE TARGET FOR REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS
FOR REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS PROVIDES THE
FOUNDATION
EMISSIONS PROVIDES THE FOUNDATION FOR CLEAN ENERGY
POLICY,
FOUNDATION FOR CLEAN ENERGY POLICY, SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE
TO
POLICY, SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO INDUSTRY, AND ENABLES LONG
RANGE
TO INDUSTRY, AND ENABLES LONG RANGE PLANNING.
THIRD,
RANGE PLANNING. THIRD, STRONG FEDERAL
LEADERSHIP
THIRD, STRONG FEDERAL LEADERSHIP SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE
MAKING
LEADERSHIP SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE MAKING IMPACTFUL INVESTMENTS IN
RESEARCH
MAKING IMPACTFUL INVESTMENTS IN RESEARCH AROUND BOTH EMISSION
REDUCTIONS
RESEARCH AROUND BOTH EMISSION REDUCTIONS AND CLIMATE CHANGE
ADAPTATION.
FEDERAL
ADAPTATION. FEDERAL RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT
FEDERAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT GAVE US THE
INTERNET
DEVELOPMENT GAVE US THE INTERNET AND GPS.
TECHNOLOGY
INTERNET AND GPS. TECHNOLOGY THAT'S CHANGED OUR
LIVES
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S CHANGED OUR LIVES FOREVER.
I
LIVES FOREVER. I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD BRING ITS
RESOURCES
GOVERNMENT COULD BRING ITS RESOURCES TO BEAR IN DEVELOPING
THE
RESOURCES TO BEAR IN DEVELOPING THE NEXT BREAKTHROUGH BATTERY
CELL
THE NEXT BREAKTHROUGH BATTERY CELL OR OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL
ADVANCES
CELL OR OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES THAT COULD HELP
DRAMATICALLY
ADVANCES THAT COULD HELP DRAMATICALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS
AND
DRAMATICALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS AND RADICALLY TRANSFORM OUR
ENERGY
AND RADICALLY TRANSFORM OUR ENERGY FUTURE.
FOURTH,
ENERGY FUTURE. FOURTH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SHOULD
FOURTH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD INCORPORATE CLIMATE RISK
AND
SHOULD INCORPORATE CLIMATE RISK AND RESILIENCE IN FUTURE
FEDERAL
AND RESILIENCE IN FUTURE FEDERAL SPENDING AND PLANNING
POSITIONS
FEDERAL SPENDING AND PLANNING POSITIONS TO ENSURE TAXPAYER
DOLLARS
POSITIONS TO ENSURE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE USED WISELY.
OUR
DOLLARS ARE USED WISELY. OUR OWN BOSTON HARBOR ISLAND
MANAGED
OUR OWN BOSTON HARBOR ISLAND MANAGED A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN
STATE
MANAGED A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AND
STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND A NONPROFIT WERE ALL READY
THREATENED
AND A NONPROFIT WERE ALL READY THREATENED BY RISING SEA LEVELS
AND
THREATENED BY RISING SEA LEVELS AND STORM SURGES.
GOVERNORS
AND STORM SURGES. GOVERNORS AROUND THE COUNTRY
ARE
GOVERNORS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE SEEING AND RESPONDING TO
THE
ARE SEEING AND RESPONDING TO THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
IN
THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN OUR STATES AND COMMUNITIES.
THERE'S
IN OUR STATES AND COMMUNITIES. THERE'S NOT A CHALLENGE ANY ONE
OF
THERE'S NOT A CHALLENGE ANY ONE OF US CAN SOLVE ALONE.
WE
OF US CAN SOLVE ALONE. WE NEED COLLECTIVE ACTION FROM
FEDERAL,
WE NEED COLLECTIVE ACTION FROM FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS
FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WORKING WITH THE
PRIVATE
GOVERNMENTS WORKING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO AGGRESSIVELY
REDUCE
PRIVATE SECTOR TO AGGRESSIVELY REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS
REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND ADAPT TO THE
CHANGES
EMISSIONS AND ADAPT TO THE CHANGES THAT ARE ALL READY IN
MOTION.
I
MOTION. I WANT TO THANK THIS COMMITTEE
FOR
I WANT TO THANK THIS COMMITTEE FOR THE INVITATION TO SPEAK.
AND
FOR THE INVITATION TO SPEAK. AND I THANK MY COLLEAGUE,
GOVERNOR
AND I THANK MY COLLEAGUE, GOVERNOR COOPER FOR JOINING ME
HERE
GOVERNOR COOPER FOR JOINING ME HERE TODAY.
WE'VE
HERE TODAY. WE'VE SUBMITTED WRITTEN
TESTIMONY
WE'VE SUBMITTED WRITTEN TESTIMONY WHICH GOES INTO MORE
DETAIL
TESTIMONY WHICH GOES INTO MORE DETAIL THAN MY ORAL REMARKS.
AND
DETAIL THAN MY ORAL REMARKS. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
TOGETHER
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS CHALLENGE AND
AM
TOGETHER ON THIS CHALLENGE AND AM PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS
AM PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
>>>
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE. >>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
RICK.
I
RICK. I MYSELF HAVE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS,
I MYSELF HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, GOVERNORS.
LETTED
QUESTIONS, GOVERNORS. LETTED ME JUST GET THIS OUT OF
THE
LETTED ME JUST GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.
FIRST
THE WAY. FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU BELIEVE
THAT
FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANY LEGITIMATE
SCIENTIFIC
THAT THERE IS ANY LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC DEBATE OVER WHETHER
HUMAN
SCIENTIFIC DEBATE OVER WHETHER HUMAN INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE IS
OCCURRING
HUMAN INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE IS OCCURRING AS WE SPEAK?
>>
OCCURRING AS WE SPEAK? >> NO.
>>
>> NO. >> BOTH OF YOU?
>>
>> BOTH OF YOU? >> YES, BASED ON THE WAY YOU
ASKED
>> YES, BASED ON THE WAY YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
>>
ASKED THE QUESTION. >> NO, I DO NOT.
THERE
>> NO, I DO NOT. THERE IS OVERWHELMING
SCIENTIFIC
THERE IS OVERWHELMING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS THAT THAT
IS
SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS THE CASE.
>>
IS THE CASE. >> WHAT HE SAID.
.
>>
. >> SOME
. >> SOME PEOPLE ARGUE THOUGH, ON
THAT
>> SOME PEOPLE ARGUE THOUGH, ON THAT POINT, AND THAT CONSENSUS
OF
THAT POINT, AND THAT CONSENSUS OF OPINION THAT ALTHOUGH WE
KNOW
OF OPINION THAT ALTHOUGH WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING.
THAT
KNOW IT'S HAPPENING. THAT HUMANS ARE A MAJOR
CONTRIBUTING
THAT HUMANS ARE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING CAUSE TO IT, THIS
NO
CONTRIBUTING CAUSE TO IT, THIS NO WAY TO STOP IT.
THAT
NO WAY TO STOP IT. THAT -- OR THAT IT WILL BE FAR
TOO
THAT -- OR THAT IT WILL BE FAR TOO EXPENSIVE TO EVEN TRY.
IT'S
TOO EXPENSIVE TO EVEN TRY. IT'S A POINT OF VIEW.
IT'S
IT'S A POINT OF VIEW. IT'S A REACTION THAT YOU HEAR.
YOUR
IT'S A REACTION THAT YOU HEAR. YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.
ON
YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. ON THOSE TWO POINTS.
>>
ON THOSE TWO POINTS. >> I GUESS I'D SAY THIS.
FIRST
>> I GUESS I'D SAY THIS. FIRST OF ALL, THE NORTHEAST
UNITED
FIRST OF ALL, THE NORTHEAST UNITED STATES, WHEN I WAS A
MUCH
UNITED STATES, WHEN I WAS A MUCH YOUNGER PERSON, I HAD A
HUGE
MUCH YOUNGER PERSON, I HAD A HUGE ISSUE WITH ACID RAIN,
WHICH
HUGE ISSUE WITH ACID RAIN, WHICH WAS MOSTLY COMING FROM
THE
WHICH WAS MOSTLY COMING FROM THE MIDWEST.
AND
THE MIDWEST. AND THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM.
IT
AND THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM. IT WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
THERE
IT WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE AND
DISCUSSION
THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
BUT
DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. BUT A COMBINATION OF FEDERAL
AND
BUT A COMBINATION OF FEDERAL AND STATE POLICIES OVER TIME
BASICALLY
AND STATE POLICIES OVER TIME BASICALLY SOLVED IT.
AND
BASICALLY SOLVED IT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS
DONE
AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS DONE WITH RESPECT TO POLICY AT
THE
DONE WITH RESPECT TO POLICY AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL
WITH
THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL WITH REGARD TO THE OZONE LAYER,
WELL,
WITH REGARD TO THE OZONE LAYER, WELL, THERE'S STILL REPAIR
GOING
WELL, THERE'S STILL REPAIR GOING ON THERE.
THE
GOING ON THERE. THE OZONE LAYER IS IN FAR
BETTER
THE OZONE LAYER IS IN FAR BETTER SHAPE THAN IT WAS 30 TO
35
BETTER SHAPE THAN IT WAS 30 TO 35 YEARS AGO.
PRETTY
35 YEARS AGO. PRETTY CLEAR INDICATIONS THAT
YOU
PRETTY CLEAR INDICATIONS THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON
BIG
YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON BIG ISSUES WITH POLICY.
AND
BIG ISSUES WITH POLICY. AND WITH RESPECT TO
AFFORDABILITY,
AND WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABILITY, I COME BACK TO
THE
AFFORDABILITY, I COME BACK TO THE PROCUREMENT THAT WE JUST
DID
THE PROCUREMENT THAT WE JUST DID ON OFFSHORE WIND.
AND
DID ON OFFSHORE WIND. AND THE HYDRO POWER PROCUREMENT
WE
AND THE HYDRO POWER PROCUREMENT WE DID.
WHICH
WE DID. WHICH INVOLVES HYDRO POWER FROM
QUEBEC.
THE
QUEBEC. THE PRICE POINTS ON BOTH OF
THOSE
THE PRICE POINTS ON BOTH OF THOSE INITIATIVES.
EACH
THOSE INITIATIVES. EACH OF WHICH ARE WORTH
HUNDREDS
EACH OF WHICH ARE WORTH HUNDREDS OF MEGA WATTS OF
RESOURCE
HUNDREDS OF MEGA WATTS OF RESOURCE TO MASSACHUSETTS
FAMILIES
RESOURCE TO MASSACHUSETTS FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES.
BOTH
FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES. BOTH CAME AT A PRICE POINT THAT
OVER
BOTH CAME AT A PRICE POINT THAT OVER TIME ARE GOING TO BE MORE
COST
OVER TIME ARE GOING TO BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN IT WOULD
HAVE
COST EFFECTIVE THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO USE TRADITIONAL
RESOURCES.
SO
RESOURCES. SO I SIMPLY -- I THINK THE
BIGGER
SO I SIMPLY -- I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE IS, ARE YOU
WILLING
BIGGER ISSUE HERE IS, ARE YOU WILLING TO SORT OF HEAD IN THAT
DIRECTION?
BE
DIRECTION? BE PRACTICAL, CHASE COST
EFFECTIVE
BE PRACTICAL, CHASE COST EFFECTIVE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND
EFFECTIVE OPPORTUNITIES. AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE
WAYS
AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE.
AND
WAYS TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. AND THE FINAL THING I'LL JUST
MENTION
AND THE FINAL THING I'LL JUST MENTION ABOUT THIS, IF YOU HAVE
FARMERS
MENTION ABOUT THIS, IF YOU HAVE FARMERS OR FISHERMEN OR RESORT
OPERATORS
FARMERS OR FISHERMEN OR RESORT OPERATORS OR FORSTERS, IN YOUR
COMMUNITIES,
OPERATORS OR FORSTERS, IN YOUR COMMUNITIES, AND IN YOUR
DISTRICTS,
COMMUNITIES, AND IN YOUR DISTRICTS, I PROMISE YOU THEY
ARE
DISTRICTS, I PROMISE YOU THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE
ARE WORRYING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE ALL THE TIME.
AND
CHANGE ALL THE TIME. AND WHETHER IT'S THE GREENHOUSE
GAS
AND WHETHER IT'S THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION ISSUE.
OR
GAS EMISSION ISSUE. OR THE RESILIENCY ISSUE, THEY
HAVE
OR THE RESILIENCY ISSUE, THEY HAVE MAJOR CHALLENGES THAT WE
SHOULD
HAVE MAJOR CHALLENGES THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE TAKING SERIOUSLY.
OR
SHOULD ALL BE TAKING SERIOUSLY. OR WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM ALL
IN
OR WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM ALL IN VERY SIGNIFICANT HARMS WAY
OVER
IN VERY SIGNIFICANT HARMS WAY OVER TIME.
>>
OVER TIME. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, WE
COULD
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, WE COULD AFFORD NOT TO TAKE URGENT
ACTION
COULD AFFORD NOT TO TAKE URGENT ACTION TO FIGHT -- WE CAN'T
AFFORD
ACTION TO FIGHT -- WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO TAKE URGENT
ACTION
AFFORD NOT TO TAKE URGENT ACTION TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT
ACTION TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. IT IS NOT TOO LATE.
BUT
IT IS NOT TOO LATE. BUT IT SOON MAY BE.
THAT'S
BUT IT SOON MAY BE. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE
SIGNIFICANT
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE SIGNIFICANT ACTION.
AND
SIGNIFICANT ACTION. AND WE -- EVERYONE'S CONCERNED
ABOUT
AND WE -- EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT COST.
BUT
ABOUT COST. BUT CAN WE AFFORD NOT TO DO
THIS?
AND
THIS? AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT COST AND
PROFITS
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT COST AND PROFITS AND JOBS.
A
PROFITS AND JOBS. A MOVE TO A CLEAN-ENERGY
ECONOMY
A MOVE TO A CLEAN-ENERGY ECONOMY BRINGS WITH IT
SIGNIFICANT
ECONOMY BRINGS WITH IT SIGNIFICANT JOBS.
IT
SIGNIFICANT JOBS. IT BRINGS A SIGNIFICANT
ECONOMIC
IT BRINGS A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BOOST.
PEOPLE
ECONOMIC BOOST. PEOPLE MAY BE SURPRISED TO KNOW
THAT
PEOPLE MAY BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT NORTH CAROLINA IS NUMBER
TWO
THAT NORTH CAROLINA IS NUMBER TWO IN THE COUNTRY IN SOLAR
ENERGY.
HOW
ENERGY. HOW DID WE GET THERE?
WELL,
HOW DID WE GET THERE? WELL, WE FORCED THE UTILITIES
TO
WELL, WE FORCED THE UTILITIES TO BEGIN USING MORE RENEWABLE
ENERGY.
AND
ENERGY. AND WE SET A RENEWABLE
PORTFOLIO
AND WE SET A RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD FOR OUR
UTILITIES.
WE
UTILITIES. WE ALSO TOOK STEPS TO LIMIT OUR
OWN
WE ALSO TOOK STEPS TO LIMIT OUR OWN COAL FIRE PLANT EMISSIONS
IN
OWN COAL FIRE PLANT EMISSIONS IN NORTH CAROLINA.
SO
IN NORTH CAROLINA. SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WE
HAVE
SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WE HAVE GROWN THIS SOLAR ENERGY
ECONOMY
HAVE GROWN THIS SOLAR ENERGY ECONOMY AND CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY
ECONOMY AND CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY IN NORTH CAROLINA TO
THE
ECONOMY IN NORTH CAROLINA TO THE POINT WHERE IT HAS
POLITICAL
THE POINT WHERE IT HAS POLITICAL SUPPORT FROM BOTH
PARTIES
POLITICAL SUPPORT FROM BOTH PARTIES BECAUSE OF THE JOBS
THAT
PARTIES BECAUSE OF THE JOBS THAT IT HAS BROUGHT TO THE
AREA.
AND
AREA. AND NOW IT'S COMPETITIVE IN
COST.
SO
COST. SO A NUDGE FROM STATE
GOVERNMENT.
A
GOVERNMENT. A NUDGE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
LIKE
GOVERNMENT. LIKE YOU'VE DONE WITH TAX
CREDIT.
CAN
CREDIT. CAN MOVE SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
SO
DIRECTION. SO IT BECOMES PART OF THE
ECONOMY.
AND
ECONOMY. AND I THINK, AT THE END OF THE
DAY,
AND I THINK, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IN MOVING TO A CLEAN
ENERGY
DAY, IN MOVING TO A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY, WE'RE GOING TO
SAVE
ENERGY ECONOMY, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN HEALTH
CARE
SAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN HEALTH CARE COSTS.
WE'RE
CARE COSTS. WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF
MONEY
WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS
MONEY FOR THESE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT OUR STATES ARE
ASKING
DOLLARS THAT OUR STATES ARE ASKING FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
ASKING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE
CHANGE
GOVERNMENT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE EFFECTS FROM FLOODING
AND
CHANGE EFFECTS FROM FLOODING AND FROM SNOW STORMS.
WE'RE
AND FROM SNOW STORMS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A POSITIVE
DIFFERENCE
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IF WE DO THIS.
WE'VE
DIFFERENCE IF WE DO THIS. WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING FAST.
WE'VE
WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING FAST. WE'VE TAKEN SOME SMALL STEPS.
OUR
WE'VE TAKEN SOME SMALL STEPS. OUR STATES ARE WORKING VERY
HARD
OUR STATES ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
THIS
HARD TO DO WHAT WE CAN. THIS NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP.
AND
THIS NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP. AND WE WANTED TO WORK WITH YOU.
WITH
AND WE WANTED TO WORK WITH YOU. WITH THE TIME I HAVE LEFT.
ANOTHER
WITH THE TIME I HAVE LEFT. ANOTHER ARGUMENT PEOPLE USE TO
EXCUSE
ANOTHER ARGUMENT PEOPLE USE TO EXCUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
FROM
EXCUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM TAKING ACTION IS SAYING
THAT
FROM TAKING ACTION IS SAYING THAT WE CAN INNOVATE OUR WAY
OUT
THAT WE CAN INNOVATE OUR WAY OUT OF IT.
THAT
OUT OF IT. THAT THERE'S A TECHNOLOGICAL
FIX
THAT THERE'S A TECHNOLOGICAL FIX OVER THE HORIZON THAT WE
NEED
FIX OVER THE HORIZON THAT WE NEED TO FIND AND THAT, WELL,
INNOVATION
NEED TO FIND AND THAT, WELL, INNOVATION IS IMPORTANT, DO YOU
BELIEVE
INNOVATION IS IMPORTANT, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT -- AND THAT'S AN
EXCUSE
BELIEVE THAT -- AND THAT'S AN EXCUSE TO SAY WE DON'T NEED ANY
NEW
EXCUSE TO SAY WE DON'T NEED ANY NEW LAWS.
WE
NEW LAWS. WE DON'T NEED REGULATIONS.
WE
WE DON'T NEED REGULATIONS. WE DON'T NEED INCENTIVES.
WE'RE
WE DON'T NEED INCENTIVES. WE'RE GOING TO TECHNOLOGICALLY
INNOVATE
WE'RE GOING TO TECHNOLOGICALLY INNOVATE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.
DO
INNOVATE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. DO YOU BELIEF THAT INNOVATION
--
DO YOU BELIEF THAT INNOVATION -- BELIEVE THAT INNOVATION IN
AND
-- BELIEVE THAT INNOVATION IN AND OF ITSELF IS ENOUGH.
>>
AND OF ITSELF IS ENOUGH. >> INNOVATION IS HAPPENING
RIGHT
>> INNOVATION IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH BATTERY STORAGE
AND
RIGHT NOW WITH BATTERY STORAGE AND OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL LEAPS.
BUT
AND OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL LEAPS. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT
ECONOMICALLY
BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
AND
ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. AND STATE, LOCAL, AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
AND STATE, LOCAL, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKING TOGETHER CAN
HELP
GOVERNMENT WORKING TOGETHER CAN HELP TO PUSH THAT ALONG.
YES,
HELP TO PUSH THAT ALONG. YES, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE
INNOVATION
YES, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE INNOVATION FOR US TO FIGHT
CLIMATE
INNOVATION FOR US TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO
SIGNIFICANTLY
CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE OUR
GREENHOUSE
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GASES.
AND
GREENHOUSE GASES. AND IT IS A PROCESS.
BUT
AND IT IS A PROCESS. BUT I THINK THAT FEDERAL HELP.
I
BUT I THINK THAT FEDERAL HELP. I THINK STOPPING THE ROLE BACKS
THAT
I THINK STOPPING THE ROLE BACKS THAT ARE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW AT
THE
THAT ARE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
PARTICULARLY
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO
THE
PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLEAN POWER PLAN, AND
AUTOMOBILE
THE CLEAN POWER PLAN, AND AUTOMOBILE EMISSIONS, WE DON'T
NEED
AUTOMOBILE EMISSIONS, WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACKWARD IN THAT
AREA.
AND
AREA. AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE
INNOVATION
AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY TO
HELP
INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY TO HELP MOVE US FORWARD.
>>
HELP MOVE US FORWARD. >> THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU. >> LET ME NOW TURN TO MR.
MCCLINTOCK
>> LET ME NOW TURN TO MR. MCCLINTOCK FOR ANY QUESTIONS HE
MIGHT
MCCLINTOCK FOR ANY QUESTIONS HE MIGHT HAVE FOR THE GOVERNOR.
>>
MIGHT HAVE FOR THE GOVERNOR. >> BY THE WAY, IT'S OKAY.
YOU
>> BY THE WAY, IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN TAKE YOUR EXTRA 2.1
MINUTES
YOU CAN TAKE YOUR EXTRA 2.1 MINUTES OUT OF MY TIME.
>>
MINUTES OUT OF MY TIME. >> I INTENDED TO, SIR.
>>
>> I INTENDED TO, SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
I
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I NOTICED THEY BOTH LINKED
CLIMATE
I NOTICED THEY BOTH LINKED CLIMATE CHANGE WITH THE
CATASTROPHIC
CLIMATE CHANGE WITH THE CATASTROPHIC FIRES WE'VE HAD IN
THE
CATASTROPHIC FIRES WE'VE HAD IN THE WEST.
MY
THE WEST. MY DISTRICT IS JUST SOUTHEAST
OF
MY DISTRICT IS JUST SOUTHEAST OF PARADISE, CALIFORNIA.
IT
OF PARADISE, CALIFORNIA. IT ENCOMPASSES THE SIERRA
NEVADA
IT ENCOMPASSES THE SIERRA NEVADA FROM LAKE TAHOE PASSED
YOSEMITE
NEVADA FROM LAKE TAHOE PASSED YOSEMITE VALLEY.
INTOE
YOSEMITE VALLEY. INTOE IS COY YA AND KINGS
CANYON
INTOE IS COY YA AND KINGS CANYON PARKS.
LAST
CANYON PARKS. LAST YEAR -- SEQUOIA AND KINGS
CANYON
LAST YEAR -- SEQUOIA AND KINGS CANYON PARKS.
>>
CANYON PARKS. >> LAST YEAR, EIGHT TIMES THE
AVERAGE
>> LAST YEAR, EIGHT TIMES THE AVERAGE ANNUAL LOSS OF 250,000-
ACRES
AVERAGE ANNUAL LOSS OF 250,000- ACRES THAT WE EXPERIENCED
DURING
ACRES THAT WE EXPERIENCED DURING THE LAST HALF OF THE
19th
DURING THE LAST HALF OF THE 19th CENTURY.
BUT
19th CENTURY. BUT IF YOU GO BACK FARTHER,
INTO
BUT IF YOU GO BACK FARTHER, INTO THE PRECOLUMBIAN PERIOD,
SCIENTISTS
INTO THE PRECOLUMBIAN PERIOD, SCIENTISTS ESTIMATE THAT
WILDFIRES
SCIENTISTS ESTIMATE THAT WILDFIRES DESTROYED BETWEEN
4.59
WILDFIRES DESTROYED BETWEEN 4.59 MILLION-ACRES PER YEAR THE
CAMPFIRE
4.59 MILLION-ACRES PER YEAR THE CAMPFIRE RECENTLY BURNED
150,000-ACRES.
IT
150,000-ACRES. IT WIPED OUT THE TOWN OF
PARADISE.
IT
PARADISE. IT CLAIMED 86 LIVES.
BUT
IT CLAIMED 86 LIVES. BUT IN 1910, THE BIG BURN IN
IDAHO
BUT IN 1910, THE BIG BURN IN IDAHO AND MONTANA BURNED 3
MILLION-ACRES,
IDAHO AND MONTANA BURNED 3 MILLION-ACRES, WIPED OUT SEVEN
TOWNS.
AND
TOWNS. AND KILLED 87 PEOPLE AMONG A
SMALLER
AND KILLED 87 PEOPLE AMONG A SMALLER AND SPARSE POPULATION.
WHAT
SMALLER AND SPARSE POPULATION. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
INTERVENING
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE INTERVENING TIME IS THAT THE
U.S.
INTERVENING TIME IS THAT THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE WAS
ESTABLISHED
U.S. FOREST SERVICE WAS ESTABLISHED AND IT BEGAN
ACTIVELY
ESTABLISHED AND IT BEGAN ACTIVELY MANAGING OUR FORESTS,
REMOVING
ACTIVELY MANAGING OUR FORESTS, REMOVING EXCESS TIMBER BEFORE
IT
REMOVING EXCESS TIMBER BEFORE IT COULD CHOKE OFF THE FORESTS
AND
IT COULD CHOKE OFF THE FORESTS AND DIE.
AND
AND DIE. AND WE ACTIVELY SUPPRESSED
BRUSH
AND WE ACTIVELY SUPPRESSED BRUSH ON BURNED LANDS AND ON
BRUSH
BRUSH ON BURNED LANDS AND ON BRUSH LANDS.
BUT
BRUSH LANDS. BUT IN THE 1970s.
CONGRESS
BUT IN THE 1970s. CONGRESS IMPOSED A SERIES OF
ENVIRONMENTAL
CONGRESS IMPOSED A SERIES OF ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS THAT
SUBJECTED
ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS THAT SUBJECTED FEDERAL LAND
MANAGEMENT
SUBJECTED FEDERAL LAND MANAGEMENT TO ENDLESSLY TIME
CONSUMING
MANAGEMENT TO ENDLESSLY TIME CONSUMING AND ULTIMATELY COST
PROHIBITIVE
CONSUMING AND ULTIMATELY COST PROHIBITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATIONS
PROHIBITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AS A RESULT, TIMBER
HARVESTED
REGULATIONS AS A RESULT, TIMBER HARVESTED FROM FEDERAL LANDS
DECLINED
HARVESTED FROM FEDERAL LANDS DECLINED 80%.
ACREAGE
DECLINED 80%. ACREAGE DESTROYED BY FIRE
INCREASED
ACREAGE DESTROYED BY FIRE INCREASED PROPORTIONALLY.
TYPICAL
INCREASED PROPORTIONALLY. TYPICAL ACRE IN THE SIERRA CAN
SUPPORT
TYPICAL ACRE IN THE SIERRA CAN SUPPORT 80 MATURE TREES THE
CURRENT
SUPPORT 80 MATURE TREES THE CURRENT DENSITY IS OVER 300
DROUGHT
CURRENT DENSITY IS OVER 300 DROUGHT CAN QUICKLY KILL OVER
CROWDED
DROUGHT CAN QUICKLY KILL OVER CROWDED FORESTS AND IT HAS.
THE
CROWDED FORESTS AND IT HAS. THE PROBLEM IS CLIMATE CHANGE
DOESN'T
THE PROBLEM IS CLIMATE CHANGE DOESN'T EXPLAIN THE DRAMATIC
DIFFERENCE
DOESN'T EXPLAIN THE DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIVATE
FORESTS
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIVATE FORESTS THAT PRACTICE ACTIVE
FOREST
FORESTS THAT PRACTICE ACTIVE FOREST MANAGEMENT, AND THE
FEDERAL
FOREST MANAGEMENT, AND THE FEDERAL LANDS THAT DON'T.
THE
FEDERAL LANDS THAT DON'T. THE BOUNDARY LINES CAN OFTEN BE
VERY
THE BOUNDARY LINES CAN OFTEN BE VERY CHEERILY SEEN FROM THE AIR
BECAUSE
VERY CHEERILY SEEN FROM THE AIR BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION THAT
OF
BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION THAT OF THE FORESTS THEMSELVES.
GREEN,
OF THE FORESTS THEMSELVES. GREEN, THRIVING PRIVATE
FORESTS,
GREEN, THRIVING PRIVATE FORESTS, GROW RIGHT UP TO THE
BURGETTSTOWN
FORESTS, GROW RIGHT UP TO THE BURGETTSTOWN BOUNDARY LINE.
ON
BURGETTSTOWN BOUNDARY LINE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE FORESTS
ARE
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE FORESTS ARE MORBIDLY OVER GROWN AND
DYING.
--
DYING. -- DECIMATE THE LANDS THAT ARE
HAM
-- DECIMATE THE LANDS THAT ARE HAM STRUNG BY THESE FEDERAL
ENVIRONMENTAL
HAM STRUNG BY THESE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS.
DECAYING
ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. DECAYING FORESTS MAKE A MOCKERY
AT
DECAYING FORESTS MAKE A MOCKERY AT THE LAWS AIMED TO REDUCE
CARBON
AT THE LAWS AIMED TO REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS.
WILDFIRES
CARBON EMISSIONS. WILDFIRES PUMP AN ESTIMATED 290
MILLION
WILDFIRES PUMP AN ESTIMATED 290 MILLION TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE
INTO
MILLION TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE INTO THE AIR EVERY YEAR.
SO
INTO THE AIR EVERY YEAR. SO GOVERNOR COOPER, IS IF THE
CLIMATE
SO GOVERNOR COOPER, IS IF THE CLIMATE IS WARMING, DOESN'T IT
MAKE
CLIMATE IS WARMING, DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ACTIVELY MANAGE
OUR
MAKE SENSE TO ACTIVELY MANAGE OUR FORESTS SO WE CAN MATCH
TIMBER
OUR FORESTS SO WE CAN MATCH TIMBER DENSITY TO THE ABILITY
OF
TIMBER DENSITY TO THE ABILITY OF THE LAND TO SUPPORT IT SO
OUR
OF THE LAND TO SUPPORT IT SO OUR FORESTS DON'T DIE OFF AND
BURN?
>>
BURN? >> FIRST, CONGRESSMAN, WE
ABSOLUTELY
>> FIRST, CONGRESSMAN, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO TAKE ACTION
TO
ABSOLUTELY NEED TO TAKE ACTION TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
>>
TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. >> WOULD YOU ANSWER MY
QUESTION.
>>
QUESTION. >> GOVERNOR, PLEASE.
>>
>> GOVERNOR, PLEASE. >> MY TIME IS LIMITED.
I
>> MY TIME IS LIMITED. I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO BE BRIEF.
>>
I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO BE BRIEF. >> YES, SIR, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
WE
>> YES, SIR, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T TAKE STEPS TO BE
MORE
WE SHOULDN'T TAKE STEPS TO BE MORE RESILIENT.
>>
MORE RESILIENT. >> IT'S BECOMING MORE COMMON,
DOESN'T
>> IT'S BECOMING MORE COMMON, DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO
PROVIDE
DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH SPACING BETWEEN
TREES
PROVIDE ENOUGH SPACING BETWEEN TREES SO SNOW ISN'T TRAPPED IN
DENSE
TREES SO SNOW ISN'T TRAPPED IN DENSE CANOPIES AND EVAPORATES
BEFORE
DENSE CANOPIES AND EVAPORATES BEFORE IT REACHES THE GROUND.
>>
BEFORE IT REACHES THE GROUND. >> ANY ACTION YOU TAKE NEEDS TO
BE
>> ANY ACTION YOU TAKE NEEDS TO BE BALANCED WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION.
AND
PROTECTION. AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO RELY ON
SCIENTISTS
AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO RELY ON SCIENTISTS AND REGULATORS --
>>
SCIENTISTS AND REGULATORS -- >> WE STOPPED RELYING ON
SCIENTISTS
>> WE STOPPED RELYING ON SCIENTISTS AND FOREST
MANAGEMENT
SCIENTISTS AND FOREST MANAGEMENT SOME TIME AGO.
WE'VE
MANAGEMENT SOME TIME AGO. WE'VE LET OUR FORESTS GO TO
BENIGN
WE'VE LET OUR FORESTS GO TO BENIGN NEGLECT.
AND
BENIGN NEGLECT. AND WE'RE FINDING OUT THE
RESULTS
AND WE'RE FINDING OUT THE RESULTS AREN'T VERY BENIGN.
YOU
RESULTS AREN'T VERY BENIGN. YOU KNOW, AND I VISITED THE
DETWILER
YOU KNOW, AND I VISITED THE DETWILER FIRE THAT FORCED THE
EVACUATION
DETWILER FIRE THAT FORCED THE EVACUATION OF MARIPOSA ALMOST
TWO
EVACUATION OF MARIPOSA ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, THE FIREFIGHTERS
BITTERLY
TWO YEARS AGO, THE FIREFIGHTERS BITTERLY COMPLAINED THAT THEY
COULDN'T
BITTERLY COMPLAINED THAT THEY COULDN'T GET ENVIRONMENTAL
PERMITS
COULDN'T GET ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS TO CUT PREVENTATIVE
FIRE
PERMITS TO CUT PREVENTATIVE FIRE BREAKS, SHOULDN'T WE
SUPPRESS
FIRE BREAKS, SHOULDN'T WE SUPPRESS BRUSH BUILD UP AND
FREE
SUPPRESS BRUSH BUILD UP AND FREE FIREFIGHTERS TO ESTABLISH
CONTAINMENT
FREE FIREFIGHTERS TO ESTABLISH CONTAINMENT BREAKS BEFORE A
FIRE
CONTAINMENT BREAKS BEFORE A FIRE STARTS.
>>
FIRE STARTS. >> CONGRESSMAN, I THINK IF YOU
WOULD
>> CONGRESSMAN, I THINK IF YOU WOULD JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT
AGAINST
WOULD JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE, WE
COULD
AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE, WE COULD JOIN IN FINDING WAYS TO
MAKE
COULD JOIN IN FINDING WAYS TO MAKE OUR ENVIRONMENT MORE --
>>
MAKE OUR ENVIRONMENT MORE -- >> WHY CAN'T WE --
>>
>> WHY CAN'T WE -- >> IF WE AGREE ON AT LEAST
THESE
>> IF WE AGREE ON AT LEAST THESE COMMON SENSE STEPS, WHY
CAN'T
THESE COMMON SENSE STEPS, WHY CAN'T WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER
WITH
CAN'T WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER WITH THEM TO PROPERLY MANAGE
OUR
WITH THEM TO PROPERLY MANAGE OUR FORESTS SO THEY ARE
RESILIENT
OUR FORESTS SO THEY ARE RESILIENT AGAINST CLIMATE
CHANGE.
>>
CHANGE. >> I THINK --
>>
>> I THINK -- >> GOVERNOR BAKER, YOU ASKED
ELOQUENTLY
>> GOVERNOR BAKER, YOU ASKED ELOQUENTLY OVER THE USE OF WIND
POWER
ELOQUENTLY OVER THE USE OF WIND POWER IN MASSACHUSETTS.
BUT
POWER IN MASSACHUSETTS. BUT YESTERDAY, THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL
BUT YESTERDAY, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL PUBLISHED A SCATHING
EDITORIAL
JOURNAL PUBLISHED A SCATHING EDITORIAL ON THE EXPERIENCE IT
FOUND
EDITORIAL ON THE EXPERIENCE IT FOUND WITH MASSACHUSETTS.
IT
FOUND WITH MASSACHUSETTS. IT SPENT $10 MILLION ON WIND
TURBINES.
AND
TURBINES. AND IT'S BEEN A DISASTER.
THE
AND IT'S BEEN A DISASTER. THE SMALL TOWN WENT DEEPLY INTO
DEBT
THE SMALL TOWN WENT DEEPLY INTO DEBT TO FINANCE THEM.
THE
DEBT TO FINANCE THEM. THE TOWNSPEOPLE COULDN'T BEAR
THE
THE TOWNSPEOPLE COULDN'T BEAR THE NOISE.
THE
THE NOISE. THE CONSTANT FLICKERING LIGHT.
AS
THE CONSTANT FLICKERING LIGHT. AS 400-FOOT WINDMILLS TURNED.
PROPERTY
AS 400-FOOT WINDMILLS TURNED. PROPERTY VALUES PLUNGED 20%.
AND
PROPERTY VALUES PLUNGED 20%. AND I WONDER HOW THAT SQUARES
WITH
AND I WONDER HOW THAT SQUARES WITH THE BRIGHT PICTURE THAT
YOU
WITH THE BRIGHT PICTURE THAT YOU PAINTED.
>>
YOU PAINTED. >> GOVERNOR, WE HAD TIME RUN
OUT.
>>
OUT. >> THE QUESTION YOU RAISED,
CONGRESSMAN
>> THE QUESTION YOU RAISED, CONGRESSMAN IS A GOOD ONE.
AND
CONGRESSMAN IS A GOOD ONE. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
I
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. I DELIBERATELY USED WORDS
PRACTICAL
I DELIBERATELY USED WORDS PRACTICAL AND COST EFFECTIVE IN
MY
PRACTICAL AND COST EFFECTIVE IN MY REMARKS ON PURPOSE.
THE
MY REMARKS ON PURPOSE. THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THERE
ARE
THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO DO WITH
RESPECT
ARE THINGS WE NEED TO DO WITH RESPECT TO MITIGATION,
ADAPTATION,
RESPECT TO MITIGATION, ADAPTATION, AND RESILIENCY,
BECAUSE
ADAPTATION, AND RESILIENCY, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
CLIMATE,
BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CLIMATE, MEANS WE OUGHT TO DO
THINGS
CLIMATE, MEANS WE OUGHT TO DO THINGS WELL.
YOU
THINGS WELL. YOU KNOW, MY FATHER ALWAYS USED
TO
YOU KNOW, MY FATHER ALWAYS USED TO SAY THAT, THERE'S TWO
THINGS,
TO SAY THAT, THERE'S TWO THINGS, THERE'S DOING THE RIGHT
THING,
THINGS, THERE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING, AND THERE'S DOING THE
THING
THING, AND THERE'S DOING THE THING RIGHT.
AND
THING RIGHT. AND JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING
AND
AND JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING AND DOING IT WRONG DOESN'T
NECESSARILY
AND DOING IT WRONG DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND
NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM. AND THERE ARE A WHOLE SERIES OF
ISSUES
AND THERE ARE A WHOLE SERIES OF ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH A WELL
INTENDED
ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH A WELL INTENDED EFFORT.
THAT
INTENDED EFFORT. THAT IN MANY RESPECTS FAILED
BECAUSE
THAT IN MANY RESPECTS FAILED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE A LOT
OF
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF THE DECISIONS WITH RESPECT
TO
OF THE DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHERE THEY SITED THEM AND
HOW
TO WHERE THEY SITED THEM AND HOW THEY SITED THEM THAT WOULD
HAVE
HOW THEY SITED THEM THAT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE.
AND
HAVE MADE SENSE. AND I THINK TO SOME EXTENT, THE
SUCCESS
AND I THINK TO SOME EXTENT, THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAD WITH OUR
DEEP
SUCCESS THAT WE HAD WITH OUR DEEP WATER WIND PROCUREMENT WAS
IN
DEEP WATER WIND PROCUREMENT WAS IN PART OUR ABILITY TO LEARN
FROM
IN PART OUR ABILITY TO LEARN FROM A PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE THAT
WE
FROM A PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD IN MASSACHUSETTS ON A
PROJECT
WE HAD IN MASSACHUSETTS ON A PROJECT THAT NEVER GOT
DEVELOPED
PROJECT THAT NEVER GOT DEVELOPED WHERE PEOPLE GAVE US
AGREEMENT
DEVELOPED WHERE PEOPLE GAVE US AGREEMENT TO SINGLE PROVIDER IN
THE
AGREEMENT TO SINGLE PROVIDER IN THE MIDDLE OF NANTUCKET SOUND
AT
THE MIDDLE OF NANTUCKET SOUND AT A VERY HIGH PRICE.
BECAUSE
AT A VERY HIGH PRICE. BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAID THAT WAS
WHAT
BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAID THAT WAS WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BEAR.
WE
WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BEAR. WE PUT THE THING OUT AS A
COMPETITIVE
WE PUT THE THING OUT AS A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT.
WE
COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT. WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO
PICK
WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO PICK ANYBODY UNLESS WE GOT
COMPETITIVE
PICK ANYBODY UNLESS WE GOT COMPETITIVE BIDS.
WE
COMPETITIVE BIDS. WE SPENT A TON OF TIME WITH
COLLEAGUES
WE SPENT A TON OF TIME WITH COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE
MAKING
COLLEAGUES IN THE LEGISLATURE MAKING SURE THE STATUTE THAT
WAS
MAKING SURE THE STATUTE THAT WAS WRITTEN GAVE US THE ABILITY
TO
WAS WRITTEN GAVE US THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT
WOULD
TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD WORK.
AND
WOULD WORK. AND THEN WE TOOK OUR TIME IN
MAKING
AND THEN WE TOOK OUR TIME IN MAKING SURE THAT THE
PROCUREMENT
MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCUREMENT WE PUT OUT THERE
WAS
PROCUREMENT WE PUT OUT THERE WAS A PROCUREMENT THAT WOULD
GIVE
WAS A PROCUREMENT THAT WOULD GIVE US THE ANSWER WE WERE
LOOKING
GIVE US THE ANSWER WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
AND
LOOKING FOR. AND WE MADE CLEAR IF WE DIDN'T
GET
AND WE MADE CLEAR IF WE DIDN'T GET A GOOD BID, WE WOULDN'T
TAKE
GET A GOOD BID, WE WOULDN'T TAKE IT.
AND
TAKE IT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN
OUR
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN OUR STATUTE THAT MADE A BIG
DIFFERENCE
OUR STATUTE THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IS WE FRAMED IT AS A
LONG-TERM
DIFFERENCE IS WE FRAMED IT AS A LONG-TERM LEASE.
SO
LONG-TERM LEASE. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THE TYPE
OF
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THE TYPE OF CONTRACT THAT TYPICALLY
EXISTS
OF CONTRACT THAT TYPICALLY EXISTS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT,
WHERE
EXISTS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY
HAVING
WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO RENEW IT OVER AND
OVER
HAVING TO RENEW IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE SAID IF YOU WIN,
YOU'RE
OVER AGAIN, WE SAID IF YOU WIN, YOU'RE GOING TO THE TIME YOU
NEED
YOU'RE GOING TO THE TIME YOU NEED TO ANALYZE THE COST OF
MAKING
NEED TO ANALYZE THE COST OF MAKING THE INVESTMENT IN THE
PROJECT
MAKING THE INVESTMENT IN THE PROJECT RETURNED.
AND
PROJECT RETURNED. AND BECAUSE OF THAT CONSISTENCY
IN
AND BECAUSE OF THAT CONSISTENCY IN THE WAY WE BID IT.
AND
IN THE WAY WE BID IT. AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS
COMPETITIVE.
WE
COMPETITIVE. WE GOT A GREAT PRICE.
I
WE GOT A GREAT PRICE. I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN
SOMETHING
I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T GO THE WAY IT
SHOULD
SOMETHING DOESN'T GO THE WAY IT SHOULD GO, EVERYBODY BLAMES THE
CONCEPT.
SOMETIMES
CONCEPT. SOMETIMES WE JUST SCREW UP THE
WAY
SOMETIMES WE JUST SCREW UP THE WAY WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT.
AND
WAY WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT. AND IT MAKES THE CONCEPT LOOK
BAD.
>>
BAD. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
BEFORE
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. BEFORE I GET MANAGEMENT ON MY
TIME
BEFORE I GET MANAGEMENT ON MY TIME MANAGEMENT ABILITIES HERE.
IF
TIME MANAGEMENT ABILITIES HERE. IF WE COULD KEEP THE QUESTIONS
AND
IF WE COULD KEEP THE QUESTIONS AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT FIVE
MINUTES
AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT FIVE MINUTES SO THAT EVERYONE THAT'S
HERE
MINUTES SO THAT EVERYONE THAT'S HERE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO
HERE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
MR.
TO ASK QUESTIONS. MR. PALATANO.
>>
MR. PALATANO. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, WELCOME
GOVERNORS.
GOVERNOR
GOVERNORS. GOVERNOR COOPER,
CONGRATULATIONS
GOVERNOR COOPER, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
CONSECUTIVE
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CONSECUTIVE ORDER TO FIGHT
CLIMATE
CONSECUTIVE ORDER TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND
CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THIS TREMENDOUS INFORMATION
THAT
AND THIS TREMENDOUS INFORMATION THAT CAN PROBABLY BE GIVEN OUT
TO
THAT CAN PROBABLY BE GIVEN OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE
THEM
TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE THEM BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
NOT
THEM BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. NOT JUST THE GOVERNMENT.
BECAUSE
NOT JUST THE GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE SOMETIMES RELY
EVERYTHING
BECAUSE SOMETIMES RELY EVERYTHING ON GOVERNMENT.
ONE
EVERYTHING ON GOVERNMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M
LOOKING
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS YOU SAY THAT
MOVING
LOOKING AT IS YOU SAY THAT MOVING UNDER UTILIZED LANDS AND
RESTORING
MOVING UNDER UTILIZED LANDS AND RESTORING FLOODPLAINS.
THAT'S
RESTORING FLOODPLAINS. THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT WE
NEED
THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT WE NEED HERE IN CONGRESS.
ESPECIALLY
NEED HERE IN CONGRESS. ESPECIALLY FUNDING FOR RECYCLED
WATER
ESPECIALLY FUNDING FOR RECYCLED WATER AND CONSERVATION
EDUCATION
WATER AND CONSERVATION EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE
THEM
EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED
MORE
THEM UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED MORE WATER TO FIGHT FIRES AND
TO
MORE WATER TO FIGHT FIRES AND TO GENERALLY PROVIDE FOR THE
PUBLIC
TO GENERALLY PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT
WE
PUBLIC FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.
HOWEVER,
WE SERVE. HOWEVER, THERE'S REDICENSE IN
THE
HOWEVER, THERE'S REDICENSE IN THE COMMITTEE TO FUND RECYCLED
WATER
THE COMMITTEE TO FUND RECYCLED WATER PROJECTS.
THERE
WATER PROJECTS. THERE USED TO BE 17 MILLION FOR
17
THERE USED TO BE 17 MILLION FOR 17 WESTERN STATES.
I'M
17 WESTERN STATES. I'M ASKING FOR 500 MILLION FOR
THE
I'M ASKING FOR 500 MILLION FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
PREPARE
THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR ONGOING DROUGHT AND
ONGOING
PREPARE FOR ONGOING DROUGHT AND ONGOING FIRES AND EVERYTHING
ELSE.
THE
ELSE. THE JUSTICE, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE
PUBLIC-PRIVATE
THE JUSTICE, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS,
TWO
PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, TWO OF YOU.
>>
TWO OF YOU. >> WELL, I THINK IN NORTH
CAROLINA,
>> WELL, I THINK IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE'RE ALL READY DOING
THAT.
WE
THAT. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF
AREAS
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE IN DANGER OF
FLOODING.
WE
FLOODING. WE HAVE PUT ADVANCED FLOOD
MAPPING
WE HAVE PUT ADVANCED FLOOD MAPPING IN PLACE.
SO
MAPPING IN PLACE. SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO
EVACUATE
SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO EVACUATE AND WHERE AREAS ARE
ARE
EVACUATE AND WHERE AREAS ARE ARE GOING TO BE FLOODED, WE'RE
TAKING
ARE GOING TO BE FLOODED, WE'RE TAKING SIGNIFICANT MITIGATION
STEPS
TAKING SIGNIFICANT MITIGATION STEPS WHERE WE'RE USING BUY
OUTS,
STEPS WHERE WE'RE USING BUY OUTS, ELEVATIONS, AND EVEN
STRATEGIC
OUTS, ELEVATIONS, AND EVEN STRATEGIC RETREATS.
>>
STRATEGIC RETREATS. >> DO YOU INFORM THE GENERAL
PUBLIC
>> DO YOU INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF YOUR PLAN SO THEY CAN
BE
PUBLIC OF YOUR PLAN SO THEY CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU ARE
DOING?
>>
DOING? >> YES, WE INCORPORATE WHAT
HAPPENS
>> YES, WE INCORPORATE WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR
MUNICIPALITIES.
THEY
MUNICIPALITIES. THEY HAVE TO MAKE THESE TOUGH
DECISIONS,
THEY HAVE TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY ABOUT
STRATEGIC
DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY ABOUT STRATEGIC RETREAT.
BECAUSE
STRATEGIC RETREAT. BECAUSE WE'VE COME TO THE
REALIZATION
BECAUSE WE'VE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THESE FLOODS
ARE
REALIZATION THAT THESE FLOODS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OCCUR.
THEY'RE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OCCUR. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIERCE.
WE
THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIERCE. WE NEED TO TAKE --
>>
WE NEED TO TAKE -- >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE?
>>
INFRASTRUCTURE? >> AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
PARTICULARLY
>> AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND PARTICULARLY WASTE WATER
TREATMENT
PARTICULARLY WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS THAT ARE
EXTREMELY
TREATMENT PLANTS THAT ARE EXTREMELY VULNERABLE TO
FLOODING.
HELPING
FLOODING. HELPING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAKE
SURE
HELPING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE REBUILT AND
BUILT
SURE THAT THEY ARE REBUILT AND BUILT IN A RESILIENT WAY.
I'VE
BUILT IN A RESILIENT WAY. I'VE ESTABLISHED THE NORTH
CAROLINA
I'VE ESTABLISHED THE NORTH CAROLINA OFFICE OF RESILIENCY
AND
CAROLINA OFFICE OF RESILIENCY AND RECOVERY AND WHAT WE'RE
DOING
AND RECOVERY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING WITH LOCAL
MUNICIPALITIES
DOING IS WORKING WITH LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ON CATCH BASINS.
TRYING
MUNICIPALITIES ON CATCH BASINS. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO
PREVENT
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO PREVENT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
FUTURE.
IN
FUTURE. IN ADDITION TO OUR EFFORTS TO
FIGHT
IN ADDITION TO OUR EFFORTS TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
>>
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR BAKER,
WHAT
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR BAKER, WHAT POLICIES CAN STATES AND
CITY
WHAT POLICIES CAN STATES AND CITY GOVERNMENTS PUT INTO PLACE
TO
CITY GOVERNMENTS PUT INTO PLACE TO BUILD AN INCLUSIVE, GREEN
ECONOMY.
>>
ECONOMY. >> WELL, I THINK JUST TO PIGGY
BACK
>> WELL, I THINK JUST TO PIGGY BACK A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR
PREVIOUS
BACK A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, TO GOVERNOR
COOPER,
PREVIOUS QUESTION, TO GOVERNOR COOPER, I'M A FORMER LOCAL
OFFICIAL.
AND
OFFICIAL. AND I GET THE REASON IT'S
IMPORTANT
AND I GET THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE LOCAL
REPRESENTATION.
AND
REPRESENTATION. AND LOCAL VOICES INVOLVED IN
DISCUSSIONS
AND LOCAL VOICES INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH RESPECT TO
WHAT
DISCUSSIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
AND
COMMUNITIES. AND THAT'S WHY THE
VULNERABILITY
AND THAT'S WHY THE VULNERABILITY PLANNING EFFORT
THAT
VULNERABILITY PLANNING EFFORT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS A
MUNICIPAL
THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS A MUNICIPAL VULNERABILITY
PLANNING
MUNICIPAL VULNERABILITY PLANNING EFFORT.
BECAUSE
PLANNING EFFORT. BECAUSE WE WANT OUR COLLEAGUES
AND
BECAUSE WE WANT OUR COLLEAGUES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL
COMMUNITY
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL COMMUNITY LEADERS TO BE PART OF
THOSE
COMMUNITY LEADERS TO BE PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND
THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, YOU
HAVE
AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE 351 CITIES IN TOWN, IN
MASSACHUSETTS,
HAVE 351 CITIES IN TOWN, IN MASSACHUSETTS, THEY ALL HAVE
DIFFERENT
MASSACHUSETTS, THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH RESPECT
TO
DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO RESILIENCY AND ADAPTATION.
AND
TO RESILIENCY AND ADAPTATION. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
WHATEVER
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER IT IS WE DO IS
SUPPORTED
WHATEVER IT IS WE DO IS SUPPORTED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
IF
SUPPORTED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. IF YOU DON'T HAVE LOCAL SUPPORT
FOR
IF YOU DON'T HAVE LOCAL SUPPORT FOR IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO
SUCCEED
FOR IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO SUCCEED WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE
PURSUING.
AND
PURSUING. AND IT WON'T BE SUSTAINED OVER
TIME.
I
TIME. I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH HIM ON
THAT
I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH HIM ON THAT ONE.
>>
THAT ONE. >> PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON
THE
>> PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE FOREST FIRES ALSO LEADS TO
THE
THE FOREST FIRES ALSO LEADS TO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T FUND THE
AGENCY
THE FACT THAT WE DON'T FUND THE AGENCY WITH ENOUGH MONEY TO DO
IT.
AND
IT. AND WHAT WITH THE FUTURE THREAT
OF
AND WHAT WITH THE FUTURE THREAT OF MORE FIRES WE SHOULD HAVE
ENOUGH
OF MORE FIRES WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING THERE TO BE ABLE
TO
ENOUGH FUNDING THERE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM
FROM
TO HELP THEM FROM WHAT THE ACTUALLY HAVE
TAKEN
FROM WHAT THE ACTUALLY HAVE TAKEN SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE
CONGRESS
TAKEN SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CONGRESS TO GIVE THE STATES
MORE
CONGRESS TO GIVE THE STATES MORE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THIS
RECOVERY
MORE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THIS RECOVERY FUNDING AS WE REBUILD
SMARTER
RECOVERY FUNDING AS WE REBUILD SMARTER AND STRONGER, AS WE ARE
TRYING
SMARTER AND STRONGER, AS WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA,
BECAUSE
TRYING TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S COMING
AGAIN,
BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S COMING AGAIN, I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING
WE
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS OMISSION
OF
WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS OMISSION OF GREENHOUSE GASES, AND TO
FIGHT
OF GREENHOUSE GASES, AND TO FIGHT THIS OVERALL CLIMATE
CHANGE
FIGHT THIS OVERALL CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE HERE, AND WE KNOW
IN
CHANGE ISSUE HERE, AND WE KNOW IN THE NEXT FEW DECADES IF WE
ARE
IN THE NEXT FEW DECADES IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEAL
WITH
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THIS SEVERE WEATHER, SO WE
NEED
WITH THIS SEVERE WEATHER, SO WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE
REBUILD,
NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE REBUILD, AND US BEING ABLE TO
BE
REBUILD, AND US BEING ABLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FUNDING FOR
MITIGATION
BE ABLE TO USE THAT FUNDING FOR MITIGATION RESILIENCE.
>>
MITIGATION RESILIENCE. >> THE CHAIRMAN IS GOING TO
MOVE
>> THE CHAIRMAN IS GOING TO MOVE ME OUT SPENT 20 YEARS AGO
I
MOVE ME OUT SPENT 20 YEARS AGO I TRIED CLIMATE CHANGE IN ONE
OF
I TRIED CLIMATE CHANGE IN ONE OF MY BILLS AND I LOST A
BECAUSE
OF MY BILLS AND I LOST A BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO DEAL
WITH
BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
THANK
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. THANK YOU.
>>>
THANK YOU. >>> I APPRECIATE ONCE AGAIN YOU
BEING
>>> I APPRECIATE ONCE AGAIN YOU BEING HERE, GOVERNOR BAKER, I
APPRECIATE
BEING HERE, GOVERNOR BAKER, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
ED
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. ED MARKEY USED TO BE PART OF
THIS
ED MARKEY USED TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, SO AT SOME
POINT
THIS COMMITTEE, SO AT SOME POINT OFF THE RECORD I WILL
LIKE
POINT OFF THE RECORD I WILL LIKE YOU TO TELL ME HOW YOU GOT
RID
LIKE YOU TO TELL ME HOW YOU GOT RID OF THE ARE IS AT THE END OF
YOUR
RID OF THE ARE IS AT THE END OF YOUR BOWELS.
YOU
YOUR BOWELS. YOU DO THAT VERY WELL.
AND
YOU DO THAT VERY WELL. AND AS A HINT, IF YOU TRY TO
PUT
AND AS A HINT, IF YOU TRY TO PUT IN MASSACHUSETTS ON YOUR
LICENSE
PUT IN MASSACHUSETTS ON YOUR LICENSE PLATES, WHERE DO THAT
AND
LICENSE PLATES, WHERE DO THAT AND YOU TALK.
I
AND YOU TALK. I DON'T ASK A QUESTION, YOU
TALKED
I DON'T ASK A QUESTION, YOU TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT
WORKING
TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER, IN A
COLLABORATIVE
WORKING TOGETHER, IN A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, THE VERY
ESSENCE
COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, THE VERY ESSENCE OF FEDERALISM.
AND
ESSENCE OF FEDERALISM. AND ALSO, HOW SOME OF THE LOCAL
PEOPLE
AND ALSO, HOW SOME OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO WORKED THESE ISSUES
ON
PEOPLE WHO WORKED THESE ISSUES ON THE GROUND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THEY
ON THE GROUND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING, I FOUND IN THE
STATE
THEY ARE DOING, I FOUND IN THE STATE OF UTAH SOME OF MY BEST
COMMISSIONERS
STATE OF UTAH SOME OF MY BEST COMMISSIONERS AND BURRELL UTAH
ARE
COMMISSIONERS AND BURRELL UTAH ARE THOSE WHO USED TO WORK FOR
BLM.
AND
BLM. AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY
PRAGMATIC
AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY PRAGMATIC ABOUT WHAT CAN AND
CANNOT
PRAGMATIC ABOUT WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE.
THIS
CANNOT BE DONE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT
ACTUALLY
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT ACTUALLY IS THE JURISDICTION OF
THIS
ACTUALLY IS THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS,
HOW
THIS COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS, HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY INCREASE
COLLABORATION
HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY INCREASE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
FEDERAL
COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE
STATES?
AND
STATES? AND YOU GUYS HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
A
AND YOU GUYS HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ON YOUR
OWN,
A AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ON YOUR OWN, THAT IS YOUR JURISDICTION.
HOW
OWN, THAT IS YOUR JURISDICTION. HOW DO WE INCREASE THE
COLLABORATION?
IS
COLLABORATION? IS THAT SIGNIFICANT TO INCREASE
THE
IS THAT SIGNIFICANT TO INCREASE THE COLLABORATION?
>>
THE COLLABORATION? >> I THINK ON THIS FOR ABILITY
PLANNING
>> I THINK ON THIS FOR ABILITY PLANNING EFFORT, WHICH THE
FEDERAL
PLANNING EFFORT, WHICH THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
AGENCY
FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY HAS CREATED, A PROGRAM
WHERE
AGENCY HAS CREATED, A PROGRAM WHERE STATE AND LOCALS CAN GET
TOGETHER
WHERE STATE AND LOCALS CAN GET TOGETHER AND START TO WORK WITH
THE
TOGETHER AND START TO WORK WITH THE FEDS AROUND DOING SORT OF
WHAT
THE FEDS AROUND DOING SORT OF WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS HIGH
RISK
WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS HIGH RISK ANALYTICS AND MAKING
INVESTMENTS
RISK ANALYTICS AND MAKING INVESTMENTS IN RESILIENCE THE
AND
INVESTMENTS IN RESILIENCE THE AND ADAPTATION, TO DEAL WITH
PLACES,
AND ADAPTATION, TO DEAL WITH PLACES, AND PEOPLE WERE
CONCERNED
PLACES, AND PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, SO THE NEXT
TIME
CONCERNED ABOUT, SO THE NEXT TIME THERE IS A STORM, THE NEXT
TIME
TIME THERE IS A STORM, THE NEXT TIME THERE IS A SURGE, WE DON'T
END
TIME THERE IS A SURGE, WE DON'T END UP HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE
SAME
END UP HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE SAME CLEANUP THAT FEMA DEALT
WITH
SAME CLEANUP THAT FEMA DEALT WITH THE TIME BEFORE.
I
WITH THE TIME BEFORE. I THINK THAT IS IN SOME
RESPECTS
I THINK THAT IS IN SOME RESPECTS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS
FOR
RESPECTS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
WORK
FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO WORK WITH STATE.
>>
WORK WITH STATE. >> LET ME ZERO IN ON THAT, ONCE
AGAIN,
>> LET ME ZERO IN ON THAT, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS OUR AREA OF
JURISDICTION.
THERE
JURISDICTION. THERE ARE STATUTES THAT SAY WE
HAVE
THERE ARE STATUTES THAT SAY WE HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH YOU.
THERE
HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH YOU. THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT
STATUTE
THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT STATUTE THAT SAYS WHAT OUR
COLLABORATION
STATUTE THAT SAYS WHAT OUR COLLABORATION ACTUALLY IS.
WOULD
COLLABORATION ACTUALLY IS. WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT OF
ACTUALLY
WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT OF ACTUALLY TRYING TO LIST WHAT
STEPS
ACTUALLY TRYING TO LIST WHAT STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN IN THE
COLLABORATIVE
STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN IN THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS SO INDEED
THE
COLLABORATIVE PROCESS SO INDEED THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE WORKING ON THE
SAME
GOVERNMENT ARE WORKING ON THE SAME PAGE, AS OPPOSED TO YOU
JUST
SAME PAGE, AS OPPOSED TO YOU JUST GROVELING BEFORE US?
>>
JUST GROVELING BEFORE US? >> THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE A
GREAT
>> THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
>>
GREAT IDEA. >> THAT IS WITHIN OUR
JURISDICTION
>> THAT IS WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION HOWEVER I THINK
ONE
JURISDICTION HOWEVER I THINK ONE OF THE APPROPRIATION
SUBCOMMITTEES
ONE OF THE APPROPRIATION SUBCOMMITTEES ENTIRE HE IS
HAVING
SUBCOMMITTEES ENTIRE HE IS HAVING A HEARING WHICH IS
NOTHING
HAVING A HEARING WHICH IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
PREPARATIONS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PREPARATIONS PROCESS.
SO
PREPARATIONS PROCESS. SO EVENTUALLY I THINK WE WILL
GET
SO EVENTUALLY I THINK WE WILL GET YOUR SECTIONAL ISSUES
WORKED
GET YOUR SECTIONAL ISSUES WORKED OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR
AREA.
LET
AREA. LET ME TALK TO YOU AGAIN
SPECIFICALLY
LET ME TALK TO YOU AGAIN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CONCEPTS
THAT
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CONCEPTS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP, WITH
MS.
THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP, WITH MS. NAPOLITANO, SHE MENTIONED
IT
MS. NAPOLITANO, SHE MENTIONED IT BEFORE SHE LEFT.
THIS
IT BEFORE SHE LEFT. THIS IDEA FOREST FIRES AND WHAT
THEY
THIS IDEA FOREST FIRES AND WHAT THEY NEED.
AND
THEY NEED. AND MAYBE WHEN MR. WESTERMAN
HAS
AND MAYBE WHEN MR. WESTERMAN HAS A CHANCE TO TALK HE CAN
EXEMPLIFY
HAS A CHANCE TO TALK HE CAN EXEMPLIFY ON THIS.
ONE
EXEMPLIFY ON THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE
OBAMA
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE OBAMA AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
TOLD
OBAMA AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TOLD US IS THAT IT IS NOT
NECESSARILY
TOLD US IS THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY INITIAL FUNDING
THAT
NECESSARILY INITIAL FUNDING THAT MIX IT DIFFICULT, IT IS AN
ISSUE
THAT MIX IT DIFFICULT, IT IS AN ISSUE OF WHAT KIND OF POWERS
THEY
ISSUE OF WHAT KIND OF POWERS THEY HAVE TO DO MANAGEMENT
PRACTICES
THEY HAVE TO DO MANAGEMENT PRACTICES BEFORE THE FIRE
SEASON
PRACTICES BEFORE THE FIRE SEASON TAKES PLACE.
AND
SEASON TAKES PLACE. AND THE OTHER BIG ISSUE ALSO
DEALS
AND THE OTHER BIG ISSUE ALSO DEALS WITH CONSTANT LITIGATION,
EVER-INCREASING
DEALS WITH CONSTANT LITIGATION, EVER-INCREASING LITIGATION BY
SPECIAL
EVER-INCREASING LITIGATION BY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS FOR
WHICH
SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS FOR WHICH THEY EITHER BACKED UP
WITH
WHICH THEY EITHER BACKED UP WITH THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO
IN
WITH THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THAT
LITIGATION,
IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THAT LITIGATION, OR THEY WERE FORCED
TO
LITIGATION, OR THEY WERE FORCED TO SPEND THEIR MONEY DEFENDING
THEMSELVES
TO SPEND THEIR MONEY DEFENDING THEMSELVES ON THE LITIGATION.
SO
THEMSELVES ON THE LITIGATION. SO WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR IS
GREATER
SO WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR IS GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN ACTUALLY
MANAGING
GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN ACTUALLY MANAGING THE LAND, AND HELP IN
DEFENDING
MANAGING THE LAND, AND HELP IN DEFENDING THEMSELVES AGAINST
LITIGATION.
I'M
LITIGATION. I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT
WHEN
I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH YOU ON
THE
WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH YOU ON THE STATE LEVEL, THAT THOSE
ISSUES
THE STATE LEVEL, THAT THOSE ISSUES ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT AND
INDEED
ISSUES ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT AND INDEED THE EXPERTS ON THE
GROUND
INDEED THE EXPERTS ON THE GROUND TO ASK US FOR THOSE
KINDS
GROUND TO ASK US FOR THOSE KINDS OF HELP WOULD BE SAYING
THAT
KINDS OF HELP WOULD BE SAYING THAT SAME TYPE OF THING.
>>
THAT SAME TYPE OF THING. >> I MADE A NOTE TO MYSELF TO
ASK,
>> I MADE A NOTE TO MYSELF TO ASK, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LAND
THAT
ASK, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LAND THAT WE MANAGE BOTH ACTIVELY
AND
THAT WE MANAGE BOTH ACTIVELY AND PASSIVELY.
>>
AND PASSIVELY. >> THE NICE THING IS, THAT'S
WHERE
>> THE NICE THING IS, THAT'S WHERE IT LANDED.
>>
WHERE IT LANDED. >> I WILL DO THAT TO MAKE SURE
THAT
>> I WILL DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE
THAT WE GET BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT IT.
>>
COMMITTEE ABOUT IT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ACTUALLY, I WANT TO ASK
ANOTHER
AND ACTUALLY, I WANT TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.
I'M
ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME WITH
THAT.
WE
THAT. WE CAN GO TO THE POINT IN THE
FUTURE
WE CAN GO TO THE POINT IN THE FUTURE WHERE UTAH HAS AS MUCH
FEDERAL
FUTURE WHERE UTAH HAS AS MUCH FEDERAL LAND AS MASSACHUSETTS
AND
FEDERAL LAND AS MASSACHUSETTS AND NORTH CAROLINA HAS, I WILL
BE
AND NORTH CAROLINA HAS, I WILL BE TICKLED PINK.
>>
BE TICKLED PINK. >> I WOULD LOVE THAT AS LONG AS
I
>> I WOULD LOVE THAT AS LONG AS I GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF SKIING
THAT
I GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF SKIING THAT YOU HAVE IN UTAH.
>>
THAT YOU HAVE IN UTAH. >> WILL TAKE SOME OF THE EXTRA
MOUNTAINS
>> WILL TAKE SOME OF THE EXTRA MOUNTAINS AND PUT THEM IN THERE
SO
MOUNTAINS AND PUT THEM IN THERE SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SKI AND
THAT
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SKI AND THAT WILL IMPROVE THE AIRFLOWS
WE
THAT WILL IMPROVE THE AIRFLOWS WE DON'T HAVE CRAPPY AIR IN THE
WINTER.
>>
WINTER. >> PERFECT.
>>
>> PERFECT. >> THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP.
MR.
>> THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP. MR. COSTA.
>>
MR. COSTA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
IT
CHAIRMAN. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOVERNOR IN
THE
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOVERNOR IN THE RANKING MEMBER HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY
THE RANKING MEMBER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET GREAT THINGS
DONE
OPPORTUNITY TO GET GREAT THINGS DONE HERE, EAST AND WEST, BUT I
THINK
DONE HERE, EAST AND WEST, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
HEARING
THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT HEARING FOR A LOT OF REASONS,
AND
HEARING FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AND CLEARLY THE IMPACT OF CRIME
OR
AND CLEARLY THE IMPACT OF CRIME OR CLIMATE CHANGE ARE ONE OF
THE
OR CLIMATE CHANGE ARE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES
WE
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES WE FACE IN THE 21st CENTURY.
AROUND
WE FACE IN THE 21st CENTURY. AROUND THE WORLD, AND THIS
COUNTRY,
AROUND THE WORLD, AND THIS COUNTRY, AND IN OUR RESPECTIVE
STATES,
COUNTRY, AND IN OUR RESPECTIVE STATES, I KNOW THE SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY
STATES, I KNOW THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY THAT I REPRESENT IS
HAVING
VALLEY THAT I REPRESENT IS HAVING SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AS IT
RELATES
HAVING SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AS IT RELATES TO THE DROUGHT
CONDITIONS,
RELATES TO THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, THE FEAST OR FAMINE
WITH
CONDITIONS, THE FEAST OR FAMINE WITH TOO MUCH RAIN AND WATER,
AND
WITH TOO MUCH RAIN AND WATER, AND TRYING TO BALANCE OUR NEEDS.
WE
AND TRYING TO BALANCE OUR NEEDS. WE THINK ABOUT THE PLANET WE
LIVE
WE THINK ABOUT THE PLANET WE LIVE IN, 200 YEARS AGO WE HAD
1.7
LIVE IN, 200 YEARS AGO WE HAD 1.7 BILLION PEOPLE, TODAY WE
HAVE
1.7 BILLION PEOPLE, TODAY WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 7 BILLION,
AND
HAVE A LITTLE OVER 7 BILLION, AND BY THE MIDDLE OF THE
CENTURY
AND BY THE MIDDLE OF THE CENTURY IT'S EXPECTED THAT WE
WILL
CENTURY IT'S EXPECTED THAT WE WILL HAVE OVER 9 BILLION
PEOPLE,
WILL HAVE OVER 9 BILLION PEOPLE, IT'S A STATE OR A
SUSTAINABILITY
PEOPLE, IT'S A STATE OR A SUSTAINABILITY IN THE IMPACT
THAT
SUSTAINABILITY IN THE IMPACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON ALL OF OUR
RESOURCES,
THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON ALL OF OUR RESOURCES, THAT'S A CHALLENGE
WE
RESOURCES, THAT'S A CHALLENGE WE FACE TODAY, PEOPLE LIVING IN
AREAS
WE FACE TODAY, PEOPLE LIVING IN AREAS IN WHICH PEOPLE DIDN'T
LIVE
AREAS IN WHICH PEOPLE DIDN'T LIVE BEFORE.
THEY
LIVE BEFORE. THEY ARE IMPACTED BY DESIRES,
THESE
THEY ARE IMPACTED BY DESIRES, THESE FLOODS, AND THESE OTHER
NATURAL
THESE FLOODS, AND THESE OTHER NATURAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE
INCLUDING
NATURAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDING HURRICANES AND
TORNADOES,
INCLUDING HURRICANES AND TORNADOES, AND OTHER WEATHER
EVENTS.
WE
EVENTS. WE IN CALIFORNIA HAVE DONE A
LOT,
WE IN CALIFORNIA HAVE DONE A LOT, I THINK, TO TRY TO ADDRESS
THE
LOT, I THINK, TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE FUTURE HERE OF RENEWABLE
AND
THE FUTURE HERE OF RENEWABLE AND SUSTAINABLE SOURCES.
AS
AND SUSTAINABLE SOURCES. AS OTHER STATES, GOVERNORS HAVE
RECOMMENDED,
AS OTHER STATES, GOVERNORS HAVE RECOMMENDED, AND TOLD US OF
YOUR
RECOMMENDED, AND TOLD US OF YOUR OWN EFFORT, I THINK THE
EARLIER
YOUR OWN EFFORT, I THINK THE EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT BETTER
COORDINATION
EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT BETTER COORDINATION BETWEEN THE STATE,
LOCAL
COORDINATION BETWEEN THE STATE, LOCAL AND FEDERAL EFFORTS NEEDS
TO
LOCAL AND FEDERAL EFFORTS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE
TO BE DONE. WE TALKED A LOT IN BROAD
GENERAL
WE TALKED A LOT IN BROAD GENERAL TERMS. OUT OF THE WE
FOCUS
GENERAL TERMS. OUT OF THE WE FOCUS ENOUGH ON HOW WE CAN
COORDINATE
FOCUS ENOUGH ON HOW WE CAN COORDINATE TOGETHER AND
ACTUALLY
COORDINATE TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE ON
THE
ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE ON THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
IN
THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. IN A MULTIPRONGED APPROACH, I
THINK
IN A MULTIPRONGED APPROACH, I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO THAT
SUCCESS.
BOTH
SUCCESS. BOTH GOVERNORS, LET ME ASK YOU
A
BOTH GOVERNORS, LET ME ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS HERE.
I'M
A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. I'M LOOKING THIS WAY, BECAUSE
MR.
I'M LOOKING THIS WAY, BECAUSE MR. CHAIRMAN COME THE CLOCK IS
BLOCKED
MR. CHAIRMAN COME THE CLOCK IS BLOCKED HERE SO FOR THOSE OF US
WHO
BLOCKED HERE SO FOR THOSE OF US WHO WATCH IT TO MAKE SURE WE
GET
WHO WATCH IT TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUR TIME IN, IT'S A LITTLE
BIT
GET OUR TIME IN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HANDICAP.
AS
BIT OF A HANDICAP. AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE AND
TESTIFY
AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE AND TESTIFY ON TRENDS OF INTENSE
WEATHER
TESTIFY ON TRENDS OF INTENSE WEATHER CHANGES IN THE IMPACT
THERE,
WEATHER CHANGES IN THE IMPACT THERE, WE HAVE AN AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE
INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING BY THE
BIPARTISAN
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING BY THE BIPARTISAN AND THE STRUCTURE
MEASURE.
HOWARD
MEASURE. HOWARD THAT, IN YOUR RESPECTIVE
STATES,
HOWARD THAT, IN YOUR RESPECTIVE STATES, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE
BEST
STATES, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE BEST CHANNELING OF THAT FUNDING
AND
BEST CHANNELING OF THAT FUNDING AND TRANSPORTATION AND WATER
INFRASTRUCTURE
AND TRANSPORTATION AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BEST BE
SPENT
INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BEST BE SPENT IN YOUR RESPECTIVE
STATES?
>>
STATES? >> WELL, I THINK WITH RESPECT
TO
>> WELL, I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUE ARE TALKING ABOUT
TODAY,
TO THE ISSUE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHICH IS RESILIENCY, I
THINK
TODAY, WHICH IS RESILIENCY, I THINK THE BIGGEST AND BEST
OPPORTUNITY
THINK THE BIGGEST AND BEST OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AROUND ALL
OF
OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE AROUND ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE
HAVE
OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE THAT IS DESIGNED TO DEAL
WITH
HAVE THAT IS DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH STORMS.
AND
WITH STORMS. AND MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
IS
AND MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOWHERE NEAR AS SIGNIFICANT
AS
IS NOWHERE NEAR AS SIGNIFICANT AS IT NEEDS TO BE.
>>
AS IT NEEDS TO BE. >> WHEN FEMA COMES AS THEY HAVE
IN
>> WHEN FEMA COMES AS THEY HAVE IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY,
IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT
AND
COUNTRY, THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT AND RECOVERY EFFORT.
WE
AND RECOVERY EFFORT. WE WERE JUST IN PUERTO RICO
LAST
WE WERE JUST IN PUERTO RICO LAST MONTH, AND THEY, UNDER THE
,
LAST MONTH, AND THEY, UNDER THE , TRYING TO REMEMBER, THE
STAMFORD
, TRYING TO REMEMBER, THE STAMFORD ACTOR WHATEVER, ARE
ONLY
STAMFORD ACTOR WHATEVER, ARE ONLY ABOUT HIS RENT MONEY TO AT
THE
ONLY ABOUT HIS RENT MONEY TO AT THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS WERE.
THAT
THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS WERE. THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
I
THAT MAKES NO SENSE. I MEAN, WE HAD TO BE, IF WE ARE
PREPARING
I MEAN, WE HAD TO BE, IF WE ARE PREPARING THIS, GUESS WHAT,
MORE
PREPARING THIS, GUESS WHAT, MORE HURRICANES ARE GOING TO
COME,
MORE HURRICANES ARE GOING TO COME, MORE 20 IS A GOING TO
COME,
COME, MORE 20 IS A GOING TO COME, MORE FLOODS WILL COME,
AND
COME, MORE FLOODS WILL COME, AND WILDFIRES.
WE
AND WILDFIRES. WE HAVE A NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART
RICHARD
WE HAVE A NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART RICHARD RESTORATION, DON'T YOU
THINK?
>>
THINK? >> YES, WE SHOULD BE THINKING
ABOUT
>> YES, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE GOING
FORWARD
ABOUT THE STRUCTURE GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
CONSEQUENCES
FORWARD IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE FOR
BRIDGES,
CONSEQUENCES WILL BE FOR BRIDGES, FOCAL HURTS, FOR DAMS.
FOR
BRIDGES, FOCAL HURTS, FOR DAMS. FOR ALL OF THAT STUFF, BASED ON
WHAT
FOR ALL OF THAT STUFF, BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE ANTICIPATE THE
SIGNIFICANT
WHAT PEOPLE ANTICIPATE THE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THEY WILL BE
DEALING
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THEY WILL BE DEALING WITH WILL LOOK LIKE IN
THIS
DEALING WITH WILL LOOK LIKE IN THIS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE
ONES
THIS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH
100
ONES PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH 100 YEARS AGO, ABSOLUTELY.
AND
100 YEARS AGO, ABSOLUTELY. AND CONGRESSMAN, THERE'S A LOT
OF
AND CONGRESSMAN, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES TO STATE IN
THE
OF MONEY THAT COMES TO STATE IN THE WAKE OF DISASTER.
BUT
THE WAKE OF DISASTER. BUT IN THE WAKE OF DISASTER,
THAT
BUT IN THE WAKE OF DISASTER, THAT IS TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT
RESILIENT
THAT IS TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
PEEPER
RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE. PEEPER FOR PEOPLE WERE DRIVING
ON
PEEPER FOR PEOPLE WERE DRIVING ON THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
FOR
ON THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS AFTER
HURRICANE
FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS AFTER HURRICANE FLORENCE BECAUSE
INTERSTATE
HURRICANE FLORENCE BECAUSE INTERSTATE 95 WAS UNDERWATER.
>>
INTERSTATE 95 WAS UNDERWATER. >> I HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, BOTH
OF
>> I HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, BOTH OF YOU, IF YOU CAN QUICKLY,
THERE
OF YOU, IF YOU CAN QUICKLY, THERE IS A CALL, OBVIOUSLY, TO
PROVIDE
THERE IS A CALL, OBVIOUSLY, TO PROVIDE LESS STRINGENT
ENVIRONMENT
PROVIDE LESS STRINGENT ENVIRONMENT REGULATION AND WE
WRITE
ENVIRONMENT REGULATION AND WE WRITE COMMENTS AS POLICIES.
BASED
WRITE COMMENTS AS POLICIES. BASED ON SOUND SCIENCE, IS THAT
REASONABLE
BASED ON SOUND SCIENCE, IS THAT REASONABLE TO ASK?
>>
REASONABLE TO ASK? >> I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
SAID.
>>
SAID. >> THERE'S A SENSE OF MAYBE WE
NEED
>> THERE'S A SENSE OF MAYBE WE NEED TO REWRITE ENVIRONMENT
REGULATIONS
NEED TO REWRITE ENVIRONMENT REGULATIONS IN THE SENSE OF
DEALING
REGULATIONS IN THE SENSE OF DEALING WITH THESE IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE
DEALING WITH THESE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, IS THAT
REASONABLE
CLIMATE CHANGE, IS THAT REASONABLE TO ASK BASED UPON
NEW
REASONABLE TO ASK BASED UPON NEW SCIENCE?
>>
NEW SCIENCE? >> I THINK WE SHOULD
CONTINUALLY
>> I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUALLY BE UPDATING OUR
RULES
CONTINUALLY BE UPDATING OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS WITH REST
ACT
RULES AND REGULATIONS WITH REST ACT OF THE DISCOVERIES IN YOUR
SCIENCE,
ACT OF THE DISCOVERIES IN YOUR SCIENCE, WE DO IT IN
HEALTHCARE,
SCIENCE, WE DO IT IN HEALTHCARE, WHICH IS THE SPACE
I
HEALTHCARE, WHICH IS THE SPACE I CAME OUT OF IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR,
I CAME OUT OF IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE DO IN ALL SORTS OF
AREAS.
AGAIN,
AREAS. AGAIN, I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY
HERE.
AND
HERE. AND I WOULD SAY WE DON'T WANT
TO
AND I WOULD SAY WE DON'T WANT TO ROLLBACK ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFEGUARDS
TO ROLLBACK ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE HELPING US
TO
SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE HELPING US TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES AND
THEREFORE
TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES AND THEREFORE FIGHTING CLIMATE
CHANGE
THEREFORE FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT.
>>
CHANGE WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT. >> THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU. >> MR. WESTERMANN.
>>
>> MR. WESTERMANN. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
BEING
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
I'VE
BEING HERE TODAY. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEND
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN
BOTH
SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN BOTH OF YOUR STATES, YOU
BEAUTIFUL
BOTH OF YOUR STATES, YOU BEAUTIFUL STATES, WITH
BEAUTIFUL
BEAUTIFUL STATES, WITH BEAUTIFUL FORESTS, AND CLEAN
WATER
BEAUTIFUL FORESTS, AND CLEAN WATER THERE.
AND
WATER THERE. AND I GET ACCUSED SOMETIME OF
GETTING
AND I GET ACCUSED SOMETIME OF GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS
WHEN
GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS WHEN I START TALKING ABOUT
CLIMATE
WHEN I START TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT POLICY,
SO
CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT POLICY, SO TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A
DIFFERENT
SO TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH TODAY, I WAS
GOING
DIFFERENT APPROACH TODAY, I WAS GOING TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE
RECORD,
GOING TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE RECORD, BUT I HAVEN'T A HARD
COPY
RECORD, BUT I HAVEN'T A HARD COPY YET.
BUT
COPY YET. BUT THIS IS A DILBERT CARTOON
AND
BUT THIS IS A DILBERT CARTOON AND THEY'RE SITTING AROUND THE
TABLE,
AND THEY'RE SITTING AROUND THE TABLE, AND DILBERT SAYS I'VE
INVENTED
TABLE, AND DILBERT SAYS I'VE INVENTED A COST-EFFECTIVE
PRODUCT
INVENTED A COST-EFFECTIVE PRODUCT TO HARVEST CO2 FROM THE
AIR
PRODUCT TO HARVEST CO2 FROM THE AIR AND TURN INTO CONSTRUCTION
MATERIAL.
AND
MATERIAL. AND HIS COLLEAGUES IS SO YOU
INVENTED
AND HIS COLLEAGUES IS SO YOU INVENTED A TREE?
AND
INVENTED A TREE? AND IT GOES ON FROM THERE.
BUT,
AND IT GOES ON FROM THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT
THE
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CLIMATE AND HOW WE ALL WANT
TO
THE CLIMATE AND HOW WE ALL WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF IT, WE
KNOW
TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF IT, WE KNOW THAT TREES ARE ONE OF THE
BEST
KNOW THAT TREES ARE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS.
AND
BEST THINGS. AND PROVIDE GOOD HABITAT, GOV.
COOPER,
AND PROVIDE GOOD HABITAT, GOV. COOPER, I'M FROM ARKANSAS, AND
DID
COOPER, I'M FROM ARKANSAS, AND DID A LOT OF WORK IN YOUR STATE
BEFORE
DID A LOT OF WORK IN YOUR STATE BEFORE I GOT INTO CONGRESS AND
ACTUALLY
BEFORE I GOT INTO CONGRESS AND ACTUALLY DID A COMPARISON ONE
TIME
ACTUALLY DID A COMPARISON ONE TIME OF THE FOREST AREA IN
ARKANSAS
TIME OF THE FOREST AREA IN ARKANSAS VERSUS NORTH CAROLINA,
AND
ARKANSAS VERSUS NORTH CAROLINA, AND BOTH STATES ARE ALMOST
EXACTLY
AND BOTH STATES ARE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME, 17 TO 18
MILLION
EXACTLY THE SAME, 17 TO 18 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST AND
LAND
MILLION ACRES OF FOREST AND LAND IN BOTH STATES.
ALMOST
LAND IN BOTH STATES. ALMOST THE SAME BREAKDOWN OF
HARDWOOD
ALMOST THE SAME BREAKDOWN OF HARDWOOD VERSUS SOFTWOOD, AND
THERE'S
HARDWOOD VERSUS SOFTWOOD, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE,
THOUGH,
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE, THOUGH, NORTH CAROLINA HAS ONE
OF
THOUGH, NORTH CAROLINA HAS ONE OF THE MOST VIBRANT FORCES IN
THE
OF THE MOST VIBRANT FORCES IN THE COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH WE
HAVE
THE COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME
LANDMASS
HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME LANDMASS IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF
FOREST'S.
WILL
FOREST'S. WILL PRODUCE A LOT MORE WOOD
PRODUCT
WILL PRODUCE A LOT MORE WOOD PRODUCT THAN WE DO IN ARKANSAS,
ALTHOUGH
PRODUCT THAN WE DO IN ARKANSAS, ALTHOUGH OUR FOREST ECONOMY IS
GROWING
ALTHOUGH OUR FOREST ECONOMY IS GROWING AND THRIVING THERE.
SO,
GROWING AND THRIVING THERE. SO, AS WE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF
CLEANING
SO, AS WE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF CLEANING THE AIR, I WOULD LIKE
TO
CLEANING THE AIR, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR TAKE ON HOW
IMPORTANT
TO GET YOUR TAKE ON HOW IMPORTANT THE FOREST PARK
INDUSTRY
IMPORTANT THE FOREST PARK INDUSTRY ENFORCED MANAGEMENT IS
IN
INDUSTRY ENFORCED MANAGEMENT IS IN NORTH CAROLINA, TO KEEPING
YOUR
IN NORTH CAROLINA, TO KEEPING YOUR FOREST PRISTINE WHICH ALSO
HELPS
YOUR FOREST PRISTINE WHICH ALSO HELPS YOUR WATER QUALITY, YOUR
WILDLIFE
HELPS YOUR WATER QUALITY, YOUR WILDLIFE HABITAT.
AND
WILDLIFE HABITAT. AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF
PRODUCTS
AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE THERE
AND
PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE THERE AND HOW THEY MAY AFFECT THE
ENVIRONMENT,
AND HOW THEY MAY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT, SO SO IF YOU HAD A
CHANCE
ENVIRONMENT, SO SO IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GET OUT, I'M SURE YOU
HAVE,
CHANCE TO GET OUT, I'M SURE YOU HAVE, TO SEE ALL OF THE VERY
DIFFERENT
HAVE, TO SEE ALL OF THE VERY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS IN YOUR
ESTATE.
>>
ESTATE. >> WE HAVE A STRONG FORCE
PRODUCT
>> WE HAVE A STRONG FORCE PRODUCT INDUSTRY IN NORTH
CAROLINA.
I
CAROLINA. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
ABOUT
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT GOING TOO FAR WITH IT,
AND
ABOUT GOING TOO FAR WITH IT, AND I KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT
OF
AND I KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS
LOOKING
OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL
SAFEGUARDS
LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS THAT WE MAY NEED IN
ORDER
SAFEGUARDS THAT WE MAY NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
FOREST
ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FOREST ARE PROTECTED, I DO
KNOW,
FOREST ARE PROTECTED, I DO KNOW, THOUGH, THAT IT IS AN
IMPORTANT
KNOW, THOUGH, THAT IT IS AN IMPORTANT INDUSTRY IN OUR STATE
,
IMPORTANT INDUSTRY IN OUR STATE , AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO
MAKE
, AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FORESTS ARE
MANAGED
MAKE SURE THAT OUR FORESTS ARE MANAGED PROPERLY, BECAUSE WE
KNOW
MANAGED PROPERLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THOSE NATURAL
RESOURCES
KNOW THAT THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES ARE CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT,
RESOURCES ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY TO CLEAN
AIR,
IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY TO CLEAN AIR, BUT TO OUR TOURISM, AS
WELL.
>>
WELL. >> I BELIEVE, ABOUT 68% OF YOUR
FOREST
>> I BELIEVE, ABOUT 68% OF YOUR FOREST LAND IS PRIVATELY HELD
AND
FOREST LAND IS PRIVATELY HELD AND MANAGED BY PRIVATE OWNERS,
WHO
AND MANAGED BY PRIVATE OWNERS, WHO ARE DOING THAT, USING GOOD
SCIENCE.
AND
SCIENCE. AND YOU'VE ALSO FOR OBVIOUSLY
HAVE
AND YOU'VE ALSO FOR OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SIMPLE FORCE TO BE ABLE
TO
HAVE A SIMPLE FORCE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE STRONG
FORCE
TO CONTINUE WITH THE STRONG FORCE PRODUCT INDUSTRY.
I
FORCE PRODUCT INDUSTRY. I KNOW THAT ALL SO, NORTH
CAROLINA
I KNOW THAT ALL SO, NORTH CAROLINA IS ONE OF THE LEADING
STATES
CAROLINA IS ONE OF THE LEADING STATES IN PRODUCING WOOD
PELLETS,
STATES IN PRODUCING WOOD PELLETS, AND THOSE PALLETS WERE
DRIVEN
PELLETS, AND THOSE PALLETS WERE DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT TO BUY
RENEWABLE
DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT TO BUY RENEWABLE PALLETS ANYTHING
THAT'S
RENEWABLE PALLETS ANYTHING THAT'S AFFECTING THE HEALTH AND
THE
THAT'S AFFECTING THE HEALTH AND THE GLOBAL CRIMINAL OF THE
GLOBAL
THE GLOBAL CRIMINAL OF THE GLOBAL CLIMATE, AS WELL.
TO
GLOBAL CLIMATE, AS WELL. TO REPLACE COAL IN EUROPE,
THERE
TO REPLACE COAL IN EUROPE, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE
INCREASE
THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE INCREASE OF THE USE OF WOOD
PELLETS
INCREASE OF THE USE OF WOOD PELLETS IN NORTH CAROLINA,
THERE
PELLETS IN NORTH CAROLINA, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THAT,
YES.
>>
YES. >> THOSE ALL DRIVEN BY A MANDATE
OF
>> THOSE ALL DRIVEN BY A MANDATE OF GOVERNMENT, SAYING YOU HAD
TO
OF GOVERNMENT, SAYING YOU HAD TO GET THE COAL OUT OF THE
PLANTS,
TO GET THE COAL OUT OF THE PLANTS, THAT WANTED TO REPLACE
THAT
PLANTS, THAT WANTED TO REPLACE THAT WITH FUEL IN NORTH
CAROLINA,
THAT WITH FUEL IN NORTH CAROLINA, OBVIOUSLY BEING ON
THE
CAROLINA, OBVIOUSLY BEING ON THE EAST COAST AND HAVING THE
ABUNDANT
THE EAST COAST AND HAVING THE ABUNDANT FORCE OF THEY HAVE, OR
REALLY
ABUNDANT FORCE OF THEY HAVE, OR REALLY GOOD SUPPLIER.
TO
REALLY GOOD SUPPLIER. TO HELP IN EUROPE TO OFFSET
CARBON
TO HELP IN EUROPE TO OFFSET CARBON EMISSIONS OVER THERE.
>>
CARBON EMISSIONS OVER THERE. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT,
CONGRESSMAN.
I
CONGRESSMAN. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
>>
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> WILL GET A SECOND ROUND OF
QUESTIONS.
ALL
QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, WELL.
YEAH.
REAL
YEAH. REAL QUICKLY, GOV.
BAKER,
REAL QUICKLY, GOV. BAKER, THE IN MASSACHUSETTS IS
A
BAKER, THE IN MASSACHUSETTS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO
MANAGE
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO MANAGE FORESTS AND GET CLEAN
WATER,
MANAGE FORESTS AND GET CLEAN WATER, BOSTON RELIES ON THAT,
IT'S
WATER, BOSTON RELIES ON THAT, IT'S A WONDERFUL SYSTEM AND I
WISH
IT'S A WONDERFUL SYSTEM AND I WISH WE COULD MIMIC THAT OTHER
PLACES
WISH WE COULD MIMIC THAT OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
>>
PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY. >> TWO THINGS, WE PLANTED
THOUSANDS
>> TWO THINGS, WE PLANTED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TREES SINCE WE
TOOK
THOUSANDS OF TREES SINCE WE TOOK OFFICE.
FOR
TOOK OFFICE. FOR EXACTLY THE REASON YOU JUST
RAISED,
FOR EXACTLY THE REASON YOU JUST RAISED, AND THERE'S BEEN ABOUT
4
RAISED, AND THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 4 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST IN
THE
4 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST IN THE STATE WITH SIX AND HALF
MILLION
THE STATE WITH SIX AND HALF MILLION ACRES OVERALL AND ABOUT
1
MILLION ACRES OVERALL AND ABOUT 1 MILLION OF THEM, MILLION
ACRES
1 MILLION OF THEM, MILLION ACRES ARE MANAGED BY THE
COMMONWEALTH.
PLANTING
COMMONWEALTH. PLANTING TREES IS ONE OF THE
BEST,
PLANTING TREES IS ONE OF THE BEST, IF WITH THE MONEY, WE
WILL
BEST, IF WITH THE MONEY, WE WILL PLANT TREES.
REAL
WILL PLANT TREES. REAL SUBSOIL BUT OFTEN A WHOLE
BUNCH
REAL SUBSOIL BUT OFTEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
THE
BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL. THE MOST INTERESTING THING
ABOUT
THE MOST INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT HAS BEEN THE
RELATIONSHIP
ABOUT IT HAS BEEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
SPORTSMAN
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SPORTSMAN COMMUNITY AND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL
SPORTSMAN COMMUNITY AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY OVER
THE
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY OVER THE IMPORTANCE OF FOREST AND
WILDLIFE
THE IMPORTANCE OF FOREST AND WILDLIFE HABITATS.
>>
WILDLIFE HABITATS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIRMAN,
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, GOV.
BAKER,
CHAIRMAN, GOV. BAKER, AND GOVERNOR, WELCOME,
THANK
BAKER, AND GOVERNOR, WELCOME, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
THANK
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
WERE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. WERE BOTH DEMONSTRATING GREAT
CLIMATE
WERE BOTH DEMONSTRATING GREAT CLIMATE CHANGE IN YOUR STATES.
LEADING
CLIMATE CHANGE IN YOUR STATES. LEADING TO THE QUESTION, A
LITTLE
LEADING TO THE QUESTION, A LITTLE HISTORY, BACKGROUND, AND
2016,
LITTLE HISTORY, BACKGROUND, AND 2016, AT OUR BUREAU OF
ENVIRONMENTAL
2016, AT OUR BUREAU OF ENVIRONMENTAL IN COASTAL
QUALITY,
ENVIRONMENTAL IN COASTAL QUALITY, WE DEVELOPED A FIVE-
YEAR
QUALITY, WE DEVELOPED A FIVE- YEAR STRATEGY THAT NOTED THAT
ALL
YEAR STRATEGY THAT NOTED THAT ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS
HEIGHTENED
ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HEIGHTENED ONE OF THE ISLANDS.
THEY
HEIGHTENED ONE OF THE ISLANDS. THEY WOULD RESULT IN DRAMATIC
LOSS
THEY WOULD RESULT IN DRAMATIC LOSS OF GREEN SPACE AND
PERMEABLE,
LOSS OF GREEN SPACE AND PERMEABLE, NATURAL SERVICE,
PARTICULARLY
PERMEABLE, NATURAL SERVICE, PARTICULARLY IN SHORELAND
LOCATIONS.
IF
LOCATIONS. IF POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WERE
CONQUERED
IF POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WERE CONQUERED EVEN LESSER MAGGIORE
OVERSIGHT
CONQUERED EVEN LESSER MAGGIORE OVERSIGHT FOR EXPEDITED PERMIT
PROCESSING.
AND
PROCESSING. AND THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE
HOPEFUL
AND THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE HOPEFUL THAT MY POLITICAL
LEADERSHIP
HOPEFUL THAT MY POLITICAL LEADERSHIP WOULD JOIN YOUR
UNITED
LEADERSHIP WOULD JOIN YOUR UNITED STATES CLIMATE ALLIANCE.
BUT
UNITED STATES CLIMATE ALLIANCE. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, AND
HAVING
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, AND HAVING SOMEONE MENTIONED
EARLIER
HAVING SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT PEOPLE BEING
FOREST,
EARLIER ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FOREST, DISPLACED FROM THEIR
HOMES,
FOREST, DISPLACED FROM THEIR HOMES, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS
ALONE,
HOMES, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ALONE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
AMERICANS
ALONE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN FORCED FROM
THEIR
AMERICANS HAVE BEEN FORCED FROM THEIR HOMES, SOME AS RECENT AS
PUERTO
THEIR HOMES, SOME AS RECENT AS PUERTO RICO, IRMA, AND MARIA,
AND
PUERTO RICO, IRMA, AND MARIA, AND IN THE FUTURE WE WILL SEE
MANY
AND IN THE FUTURE WE WILL SEE MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO
PERMANENTLY
MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO PERMANENTLY MOVE, BECAUSE THEIR
HOMES
PERMANENTLY MOVE, BECAUSE THEIR HOMES WILL BECOME UNINHABITABLE.
RISING
HOMES WILL BECOME UNINHABITABLE. RISING SEA LEVELS, HURRICANES,
PEOPLE
RISING SEA LEVELS, HURRICANES, PEOPLE IN THE NORTHERN MARIANAS
WHO
PEOPLE IN THE NORTHERN MARIANAS WHO WERE ESPECIALLY HARD HIT, SO
WHAT
WHO WERE ESPECIALLY HARD HIT, SO WHAT CAN STATE AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
WHAT CAN STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO IN ORDER TO MORE
EFFECTIVELY
GOVERNMENT DO IN ORDER TO MORE EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS
DISPLACEMENT
EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS DISPLACEMENT DUE TO CLIMATE
CHANGE?
>>
CHANGE? >> CONGRESSMAN, IN NORTH
CAROLINA,
>> CONGRESSMAN, IN NORTH CAROLINA, I THINK WE HAVE SEEN
IT
CAROLINA, I THINK WE HAVE SEEN IT JUST AS YOU HAVE, THAT THE
PEOPLE
IT JUST AS YOU HAVE, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT THE
LEAST
PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT THE LEAST OFTEN GET HIT THE HARDEST
IN
LEAST OFTEN GET HIT THE HARDEST IN THESE NATURAL DISASTERS.
AND
IN THESE NATURAL DISASTERS. AND ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS THAT WE
HAVE
AND ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE ISSUE OF
AFFORDABLE
HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BEING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BEING ABLE TO FIND A SAFE,
AFFORDABLE
BEING ABLE TO FIND A SAFE, AFFORDABLE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO
LIVE.
IN
LIVE. IN THE WAKE OF THIS DISASTER, I
THINK
IN THE WAKE OF THIS DISASTER, I THINK IT IS HELPING US PUT
TOGETHER
THINK IT IS HELPING US PUT TOGETHER A PLAN ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING
TOGETHER A PLAN ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ACROSS THE STATE,
THAT
HOUSING FOR ACROSS THE STATE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING
TO
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP
,
TO REQUIRE A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP , AND INVESTMENT, AND TRYING TO
GET
, AND INVESTMENT, AND TRYING TO GET DEVELOPERS INTO MAKING MORE
AFFORDABLE
GET DEVELOPERS INTO MAKING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS
CONSTRUCTED
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS CONSTRUCTED IN AREAS THAT ARE
NOT
CONSTRUCTED IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT IN FLOODPLAINS OR IN DANGER
OF
NOT IN FLOODPLAINS OR IN DANGER OF BEING DESTROYED DURING THESE
DISASTERS.
IT
DISASTERS. IT IS A HUMAN TRAGEDY, AND I
LOOK
IT IS A HUMAN TRAGEDY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR IDEAS AND
WE
LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR IDEAS AND WE CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE YOU
WITH
WE CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME OF HOURS ON HOW WE DO
THAT.
>>
THAT. >> GOV.
BAKER.
>>
BAKER. >> I WOULD GET BACK TO THE
QUESTION
>> I WOULD GET BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT THE CHARISMA
ASKED
QUESTION THAT THE CHARISMA ASKED ABOUT REBUILDING TO THE
STANDARD
ASKED ABOUT REBUILDING TO THE STANDARD OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
I
STANDARD OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. I MEAN, CLEARLY, WE NEED TO BE
TAKEN
I MEAN, CLEARLY, WE NEED TO BE TAKEN A MUCH MORE FORWARD-
LOOKING
TAKEN A MUCH MORE FORWARD- LOOKING APPROACH TO THE WAY WE
HANDLE
LOOKING APPROACH TO THE WAY WE HANDLE THAT STUFF, BECAUSE
BUILDING
HANDLE THAT STUFF, BECAUSE BUILDING TO THE STANDARD THAT
EXISTED
BUILDING TO THE STANDARD THAT EXISTED BEFORE WILL BE NOWHERE
NEAR
EXISTED BEFORE WILL BE NOWHERE NEAR AS RESILIENT AS YOU NEED
TO
NEAR AS RESILIENT AS YOU NEED TO BE.
>>
TO BE. >> I AGREE WITH YOU, GOV.
BAKER,
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, GOV. BAKER, BECAUSE WHERE I COME
FROM,
BAKER, BECAUSE WHERE I COME FROM, THE NORTHERN MARIANAS, WE
JUST
FROM, THE NORTHERN MARIANAS, WE JUST HAD A SUPER TIGHT ONE, THE
SECOND-LARGEST,
JUST HAD A SUPER TIGHT ONE, THE SECOND-LARGEST, AND WE ARE A
COMMUNITY,
SECOND-LARGEST, AND WE ARE A COMMUNITY, SO WHAT DO PEOPLE,
IT
COMMUNITY, SO WHAT DO PEOPLE, IT TOOK PEOPLE YEARS TO BUILD,
THEY
IT TOOK PEOPLE YEARS TO BUILD, THEY WERE DESTROYED.
DEMOLISH.
AND
DEMOLISH. AND SO, FEMA HAS, YOU KNOW,
SOME
AND SO, FEMA HAS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM.
BUT
SOME OF THEM. BUT AWARDED $6000, SO THEY MADE
AN
BUT AWARDED $6000, SO THEY MADE AN OFFER.
WE
AN OFFER. WE CAN TAKE YOU AND MOVE YOU TO
ANOTHER
WE CAN TAKE YOU AND MOVE YOU TO ANOTHER LOCATION, AWAY FROM THE
NORTHERN
ANOTHER LOCATION, AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN MARIANAS.
UNTIL
NORTHERN MARIANAS. UNTIL YOU CAN GET YOUR
STRUCTURE
UNTIL YOU CAN GET YOUR STRUCTURE REBUILDS, 6000 IS
GOING
STRUCTURE REBUILDS, 6000 IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF 20%,
MAYBE,
GOING TO TAKE CARE OF 20%, MAYBE, OF THE COST OF THE
BUILDING,
MAYBE, OF THE COST OF THE BUILDING, IF AT ALL.
AND
BUILDING, IF AT ALL. AND SO, THE FAMILY WILL MOVE
AND
AND SO, THE FAMILY WILL MOVE AND PROBABLY NEVER COME BACK.
YOU
AND PROBABLY NEVER COME BACK. YOU KNOW, FROM A PLACE WHERE
OUR
YOU KNOW, FROM A PLACE WHERE OUR POPULATION IS HARDLY, VERY
LITTLE
OUR POPULATION IS HARDLY, VERY LITTLE OVER 50,000, WE NEED ALL
OF
LITTLE OVER 50,000, WE NEED ALL OF OUR PEOPLE TO REMAIN AT HOME.
BUT
OF OUR PEOPLE TO REMAIN AT HOME. BUT IT'S NOT, AND SO YEAH, I
AGREE,
BUT IT'S NOT, AND SO YEAH, I AGREE, FEMA ENCOURAGES THIS
RELOCATION.
MY
RELOCATION. MY TIME IS UP, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>>
MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I
APPRECIATE
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
GOVERNORS,
APPRECIATE THE TIME. GOVERNORS, I WANT TO THANK YOU
VERY
GOVERNORS, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE, GOV.
COOPER,
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE, GOV. COOPER, I KNOW THAT, I'M FROM
LOUISIANA
COOPER, I KNOW THAT, I'M FROM LOUISIANA AND WE SENSED MANY
VOLUNTEERS
LOUISIANA AND WE SENSED MANY VOLUNTEERS AND RESCUE TEAMS TO
YOUR
VOLUNTEERS AND RESCUE TEAMS TO YOUR ESTATE.
FOLLOWING,
YOUR ESTATE. FOLLOWING, JUNCTURE MEMBER,
CHRIS
FOLLOWING, JUNCTURE MEMBER, CHRIS MATTHEW, FLORENCE,
MICHAEL,
CHRIS MATTHEW, FLORENCE, MICHAEL, A NUMBER OF STORMS
THAT
MICHAEL, A NUMBER OF STORMS THAT YOU'VE HAD IN RECENT YEARS.
WE
THAT YOU'VE HAD IN RECENT YEARS. WE BEEN TRYING FOR YOU ARE
WORKING
WE BEEN TRYING FOR YOU ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOUR
DELEGATION.
TWO
DELEGATION. TWO THINGS, YOU MENTIONED SOME
OF
TWO THINGS, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE RESILIENCE MEASURES, I
THINK
OF THE RESILIENCE MEASURES, I THINK WAS OCTOBER 3, THE
PRESIDENT
THINK WAS OCTOBER 3, THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THE DISASTER
RECOVERY
PRESIDENT SIGNED THE DISASTER RECOVERY REFORM ACT.
THAT
RECOVERY REFORM ACT. THAT LAW IS PUTTING TOGETHER,
IT
THAT LAW IS PUTTING TOGETHER, IT DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL
FLEXIBILITY
IT DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND DOLLARS ARE MORE
RESILIENT,
FLEXIBILITY AND DOLLARS ARE MORE RESILIENT, WE ARE NOT
REBUILDING
RESILIENT, WE ARE NOT REBUILDING THE SAME THINGS OVER
AND
REBUILDING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I
AND OVER AGAIN. I URGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT
THAT
I URGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT NEXT AND THE LOCATION OF
BENEFITS
THAT NEXT AND THE LOCATION OF BENEFITS LETTER YOU SENT TO THE
WHITE
BENEFITS LETTER YOU SENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE IN REGARDS TO
RECOVERY,
WHITE HOUSE IN REGARDS TO RECOVERY, WE ARE WORKING
CLOSELY,
RECOVERY, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY, OUR GOVERNOR HAS DONE
THE
CLOSELY, OUR GOVERNOR HAS DONE THE SAME, WORKING CLOSELY.
>>
THE SAME, WORKING CLOSELY. >> YOU HAVE AN ANSWER YET?
>>
>> YOU HAVE AN ANSWER YET? >> BLOOD PRESSURE IS GOING UP A
LITTLE
>> BLOOD PRESSURE IS GOING UP A LITTLE BIT.
POTENTIALLY
LITTLE BIT. POTENTIALLY FILING A LAWSUIT,
BUT
POTENTIALLY FILING A LAWSUIT, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY
WITH
BUT WE WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU ALL ON THAT.
SO
WITH YOU ALL ON THAT. SO ALSO, IT HAS BEEN A GOOD BIT
OF
SO ALSO, IT HAS BEEN A GOOD BIT OF TIME IN LYNNVILLE, A LOT OF
YOUR
OF TIME IN LYNNVILLE, A LOT OF YOUR REAL JEWELS OVER THERE.
YOU
YOUR REAL JEWELS OVER THERE. YOU HAVE A GREAT STATE.
GOV.
BAKER,
GOV. BAKER, READING ABOUT SOME OF
THE
BAKER, READING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOUR STATE HAS
DONE
THE THINGS THAT YOUR STATE HAS DONE IN REGARD TO OMISSION
REDUCTION
DONE IN REGARD TO OMISSION REDUCTION AND CLIMATE CHANGE,
IT'S
REDUCTION AND CLIMATE CHANGE, IT'S INTERESTING, OUR STATE, IT
IS
IT'S INTERESTING, OUR STATE, IT IS VERY DIFFERENT, I HEARD YOU
TALK
IS VERY DIFFERENT, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE PIECE SLOPES AND
THE
TALK ABOUT THE PIECE SLOPES AND THE RANKING MEMBERS.
WE
THE RANKING MEMBERS. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT.
WE
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT. WE HAVE SOME RESOURCE ISSUES.
THEY
WE HAVE SOME RESOURCE ISSUES. THEY ARE NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE
TO
THEY ARE NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE TO SOUTH LOUISIANA.
SOME
TO SOUTH LOUISIANA. SOME OF THE TOP INDUSTRIES IN
MASSACHUSETTS,
SOME OF THE TOP INDUSTRIES IN MASSACHUSETTS, IT'S TECHNOLOGY
PATENTS,
MASSACHUSETTS, IT'S TECHNOLOGY PATENTS, VENTURE CAPITAL,
COMPUTING
PATENTS, VENTURE CAPITAL, COMPUTING TECHNOLOGY, SOME
AREAS
COMPUTING TECHNOLOGY, SOME AREAS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY
LICENSING,
AREAS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY LICENSING, THEY'RE NOT
NECESSARILY
LICENSING, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ENERGY OR OMISSIONS
INCENTIVE.
THE
INCENTIVE. THE WHOLE STATE OF LOUISIANA,
ONE
THE WHOLE STATE OF LOUISIANA, ONE OF THE TOP ENERGY PRODUCES
IN
ONE OF THE TOP ENERGY PRODUCES IN THE NATION, ONE OF THE TOP
REFINERS,
IN THE NATION, ONE OF THE TOP REFINERS, ONE OF THE LARGEST
PETROCHEMICAL
REFINERS, ONE OF THE LARGEST PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRIES IN THE
NATION.
IT'S
NATION. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ECONOMY.
YOUR
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ECONOMY. YOUR HOME STATE OF
MASSACHUSETTS,
YOUR HOME STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS, ACCORDING TO
ENERGY,
MASSACHUSETTS, ACCORDING TO ENERGY, AND EIA, THEY INDICATED
THAT
ENERGY, AND EIA, THEY INDICATED THAT YOUR ESTATE HAS VIRTUALLY
NO
THAT YOUR ESTATE HAS VIRTUALLY NO OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION, JUST
WITHIN
NO OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION, JUST WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS YOUR
STATE
WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS YOUR STATE HAS AVERAGED ABOUT OVER
ONE
STATE HAS AVERAGED ABOUT OVER ONE QUADRILLION BTUS OF FOSSIL
FUELS
ONE QUADRILLION BTUS OF FOSSIL FUELS BEING USED JUST TO
OPERATE
FUELS BEING USED JUST TO OPERATE YOUR ESTATE.
OVER
OPERATE YOUR ESTATE. OVER ONE QUADRILLION,
QUADRILLION.
IN
QUADRILLION. IN REVERE, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE
THREE
IN REVERE, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE THREE HOME HEATING OIL RESERVES,
MUCH
THREE HOME HEATING OIL RESERVES, MUCH OF YOUR, FIRE MEMBER, COAL
AND
MUCH OF YOUR, FIRE MEMBER, COAL AND NATURAL GAS, APPROXIMATELY
70%
AND NATURAL GAS, APPROXIMATELY 70% OF THE ENERGY PRODUCTION IN
YOUR
70% OF THE ENERGY PRODUCTION IN YOUR STATE, IS FROM COAL AND
NATURAL
YOUR STATE, IS FROM COAL AND NATURAL GAS, THAT COMES FROM
LOUISIANA,
NATURAL GAS, THAT COMES FROM LOUISIANA, COMES FROM OTHER
STATES.
HOW
STATES. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE MY HOME
STATE
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE MY HOME STATE OF LOUISIANA, WITH
NATURAL
STATE OF LOUISIANA, WITH NATURAL RESOURCES.
HAVE
NATURAL RESOURCES. HAVE A BIG INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.
HOW
HAVE A BIG INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE WITH THE
WHAT
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE WITH THE WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO BASED
ON
WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO BASED ON YOUR ECONOMY VERSUS THE
CHALLENGES
ON YOUR ECONOMY VERSUS THE CHALLENGES IN LOUISIANA BASED
ON
CHALLENGES IN LOUISIANA BASED ON WHAT OUR ECONOMY IS FOUNDED
ON?
>>
ON? >> OUR VIEW ON THIS ISSUE, FOR
THE
>> OUR VIEW ON THIS ISSUE, FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE PAST
DECADE,
THE BETTER PART OF THE PAST DECADE, HAS BEEN TO MAKE THE
KINDS
DECADE, HAS BEEN TO MAKE THE KINDS OF INVESTMENTS THAT COULD
EITHER
KINDS OF INVESTMENTS THAT COULD EITHER REDUCE OUR DRAW ON
ENERGY,
EITHER REDUCE OUR DRAW ON ENERGY, WHEN WE PRODUCE
PRODUCTIVITY,
ENERGY, WHEN WE PRODUCE PRODUCTIVITY, OR CONTINUE TO
REDEFINE
PRODUCTIVITY, OR CONTINUE TO REDEFINE OUR SOURCE POINTS FOR
ENERGY,
REDEFINE OUR SOURCE POINTS FOR ENERGY, GENERALLY, AND IF YOU
LOOK
ENERGY, GENERALLY, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST 10 YEARS, OR
EVEN
LOOK AT THE LAST 10 YEARS, OR EVEN GO BACK BEFORE THAT, MAYBE
THE
EVEN GO BACK BEFORE THAT, MAYBE THE LAST 20, WE'VE HAD
SIGNIFICANT
THE LAST 20, WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR
PRODUCT,
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR PRODUCT, WE'VE HAD A MODEST
POPULATION
PRODUCT, WE'VE HAD A MODEST POPULATION GROWTH.
WE'VE
POPULATION GROWTH. WE'VE HAD MODEST INCREASE IN
NUMBER
WE'VE HAD MODEST INCREASE IN NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND MILES
DRIVEN,
NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND MILES DRIVEN, WE'VE HAD, AND A 20%
REDUCTION,
DRIVEN, WE'VE HAD, AND A 20% REDUCTION, IN OUR GREENHOUSE
GAS
REDUCTION, IN OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OVER THAT SAME
PERIOD
GAS EMISSIONS OVER THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, AND THE ENERGY
DRAW
PERIOD OF TIME, AND THE ENERGY DRAW GENERALLY HAS BEEN THE
SAME
DRAW GENERALLY HAS BEEN THE SAME OVER THE SAME PERIOD,
BECAUSE
SAME OVER THE SAME PERIOD, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN MORE
PRODUCTIVE
BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN MORE PRODUCTIVE ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY
USE
PRODUCTIVE ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY USE ENERGY.
>>
USE ENERGY. >> IN SOME RESPECTS, THAT IS
ONE
>> IN SOME RESPECTS, THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T
REALLY
ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT AT ALL
TODAY.
ONE
TODAY. ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND BEST
OPPORTUNITIES
ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND BEST OPPORTUNITIES WE ALL HAVE WITH
RESPECT
OPPORTUNITIES WE ALL HAVE WITH RESPECT TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND
GREENHOUSE
RESPECT TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS,
GENERALLY,
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, GENERALLY, IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
>>
GENERALLY, IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY. >> GOV., I AGREE, I NEED TO
RECALL
>> GOV., I AGREE, I NEED TO RECALL MY TIME BECAUSE ABOUT
HER
RECALL MY TIME BECAUSE ABOUT HER RUN OUT.
I
HER RUN OUT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU WILL
HAVE
I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TAKEN STEPS.
I
HAVE TAKEN STEPS. I DO.
BUT
I DO. BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO
BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT STATES SOME
CASES
TO RECOGNIZE THAT STATES SOME CASES ARE FUNDAMENTALLY
DIFFERENT.
MASSACHUSETTS
DIFFERENT. MASSACHUSETTS CONSUMES, AND I
THINK
MASSACHUSETTS CONSUMES, AND I THINK IT WAS 24 TIMES MORE
ENERGY
THINK IT WAS 24 TIMES MORE ENERGY THAN THEY PRODUCE, AND
SO
ENERGY THAN THEY PRODUCE, AND SO YOU BUILD THREE LNG
TERMINALS,
SO YOU BUILD THREE LNG TERMINALS, COMING FROM
LOUISIANA
TERMINALS, COMING FROM LOUISIANA AND OTHER STATES.
MR.
LOUISIANA AND OTHER STATES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ASK TO
INSERT
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ASK TO INSERT IN THE RECORD, TWO
THINGS,
INSERT IN THE RECORD, TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE, IT'S
INTERESTING,
THINGS, NUMBER ONE, IT'S INTERESTING, IT'S A LETTER
ASKING
INTERESTING, IT'S A LETTER ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO INCREASE
GLOBAL
ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO INCREASE GLOBAL OIL PRODUCTION, TO
INCREASE
GLOBAL OIL PRODUCTION, TO INCREASE GLOBAL OIL PRODUCTION
AND
INCREASE GLOBAL OIL PRODUCTION AND THAT LETTER IS SIGNED BY
SENATORS
AND THAT LETTER IS SIGNED BY SENATORS CANTWELL, SCHUMER,
MENENDEZ,
SENATORS CANTWELL, SCHUMER, MENENDEZ, AND MARQUIS.
SECONDLY,
MENENDEZ, AND MARQUIS. SECONDLY, I ASKED TO INCLUDE
THE
SECONDLY, I ASKED TO INCLUDE THE RECORD, A STATEMENT THAT
SHOWS
THE RECORD, A STATEMENT THAT SHOWS THE AVERAGE ELECTRICITY
PRICES
SHOWS THE AVERAGE ELECTRICITY PRICES FOR EACH STATE,
INDICATING
PRICES FOR EACH STATE, INDICATING THE STATE OF
MASSACHUSETTS
INDICATING THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS HAS ELECTRICITY
PRICES
MASSACHUSETTS HAS ELECTRICITY PRICES THAT ARE USUALLY THE TOP
,
PRICES THAT ARE USUALLY THE TOP , OR SECOND TOP IN THE
CONTINENTAL
, OR SECOND TOP IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, MORE
THAN
CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT OF THE STATE
OF
THAN DOUBLE THAT OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.
>>
OF LOUISIANA. >> ALSO INSERT THE RECORD, NOLA
JUST
>> ALSO INSERT THE RECORD, NOLA JUST RELEASED THEIR RECAP TODAY
FOR
JUST RELEASED THEIR RECAP TODAY FOR THE U.S. AND GLOBAL CLIMATE
FOR
FOR THE U.S. AND GLOBAL CLIMATE FOR 2018.
A
FOR 2018. A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS,
RELEASED
A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS, RELEASED IN THAT REPORT,
THOUSAND
RELEASED IN THAT REPORT, THOUSAND 18 WAS THE FOURTH
HOTTEST
THOUSAND 18 WAS THE FOURTH HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD FOR OUR
PLANET,
HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD FOR OUR PLANET, FALLING BEHIND ONLY
2015,
PLANET, FALLING BEHIND ONLY 2015, 2016, 2017.
IN
2015, 2016, 2017. IN 2018 THE UNITED STATES WAS
WARMER
IN 2018 THE UNITED STATES WAS WARMER THAN AVERAGE, AND THE
WHAT
WARMER THAN AVERAGE, AND THE WHAT IS IN 35 YEARS.
THERE
WHAT IS IN 35 YEARS. THERE WERE 14 WEATHER AND
CLIMATE
THERE WERE 14 WEATHER AND CLIMATE DISASTERS, EACH WITH
DAMAGES
CLIMATE DISASTERS, EACH WITH DAMAGES OVER $1 BILLION, TOTAL
COST.
$91
COST. $91 BILLION, AND THIS IS A
REPORT
$91 BILLION, AND THIS IS A REPORT THAT WAS RELEASED AS OF
TODAY
REPORT THAT WAS RELEASED AS OF TODAY BY NOLA.
AND
TODAY BY NOLA. AND WHAT THAT HAS TURNED INTO
THE
AND WHAT THAT HAS TURNED INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
WITHOUT
THE RECORD AS WELL. WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, I HOPE.
>>
WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, I HOPE. >> ESTIMATE FOR THE RECORD, TO.
WELL
>> ESTIMATE FOR THE RECORD, TO. WELL WE ARE SUBMITTED FOR THE
RECORD
WELL WE ARE SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT
THIS
RECORD I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THIS DILBERT CARTOON TO THE
RECORD.
THAT
RECORD. THAT CLAIMS THE PHOTO FOR THE
PHOTOSYNTHETIC
THAT CLAIMS THE PHOTO FOR THE PHOTOSYNTHETIC PROCESS.
>>
PHOTOSYNTHETIC PROCESS. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST
OBSESSIVE
>> THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST OBSESSIVE SIGNALS I HAVE SEEN.
THAT
OBSESSIVE SIGNALS I HAVE SEEN. THAT WILL BE FRAMED.
>>
THAT WILL BE FRAMED. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN,
THANK
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS
HEARING.
IT
HEARING. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AN
HONEST
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT
CLIMATE
HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, AND WHILE
RANKING
CLIMATE CHANGE, AND WHILE RANKING MEMBER BISHOP ORDERED
WHERE
RANKING MEMBER BISHOP ORDERED WHERE THIS IS HEADING,
OBVIOUSLY
WHERE THIS IS HEADING, OBVIOUSLY IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY
WHICH
OBVIOUSLY IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY WHICH POLICY PRESCRIPTIONS AND
SOLUTIONS
WHICH POLICY PRESCRIPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS THIS COMMITTEE MAY
EVENTUALLY
SOLUTIONS THIS COMMITTEE MAY EVENTUALLY SUPPORT, BUT YOU
HAVE
EVENTUALLY SUPPORT, BUT YOU HAVE TO BEGIN WITH THE KIND OF
CONVERSATION,
HAVE TO BEGIN WITH THE KIND OF CONVERSATION, SCIENCE-BASED,
FACT-BASED
CONVERSATION, SCIENCE-BASED, FACT-BASED AND POLICY-BASED,
THAT
FACT-BASED AND POLICY-BASED, THAT WE ARE HAVING IN THIS ROOM
AND
THAT WE ARE HAVING IN THIS ROOM AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO HAVE IT
THAN
AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO HAVE IT THAN THIS BIPARTISAN DUO OF
GOVERNORS?
I'M
GOVERNORS? I'M STUCK IN LISTENING TO YOUR
TESTIMONIES
I'M STUCK IN LISTENING TO YOUR TESTIMONIES THAT WHEN HONEST
PEOPLE
TESTIMONIES THAT WHEN HONEST PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE FACT AND
SCIENCE
PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE FACT AND SCIENCE TO TRY TO SOLVE
PROBLEMS
SCIENCE TO TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH THOSE THEY
REPRESENT,
PROBLEMS WITH THOSE THEY REPRESENT, THE PARTY LABELS
KIND
REPRESENT, THE PARTY LABELS KIND OF MELT AWAY, AND WE JUST
BECOME
KIND OF MELT AWAY, AND WE JUST BECOME PROBLEM SOLVERS.
THAT'S
BECOME PROBLEM SOLVERS. THAT'S REFRESHING.
THIS
THAT'S REFRESHING. THIS COMMITTEE AND THE
CONGRESS,
THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CONGRESS, NEED TO HEAR MORE OF
THAT,
CONGRESS, NEED TO HEAR MORE OF THAT, THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO
HEAR
THAT, THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO HEAR MORE OF THAT, BECAUSE
FRANKLY
HEAR MORE OF THAT, BECAUSE FRANKLY I THINK AMERICA IS
TIRED
FRANKLY I THINK AMERICA IS TIRED OF THE SHRILL, FACT FREE
PARTISAN
TIRED OF THE SHRILL, FACT FREE PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT THAT HAS
TENDED
PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT THAT HAS TENDED TO BE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN
WE
TENDED TO BE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.
SO
WE TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. SO THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR
BEING
SO THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
GOVERNORS,
BEING HERE. GOVERNORS, I WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT
GOVERNORS, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT OFFSHORE DRILLING.
YOU
ABOUT OFFSHORE DRILLING. YOU KNOW THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION
YOU KNOW THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED
ISSUING
ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED ISSUING NEW STANDARDS FOR
OFFSHORE
ISSUING NEW STANDARDS FOR OFFSHORE DRILLING.
YOU
OFFSHORE DRILLING. YOU MIGHT SAY THAT THEY MIGHT
WANT
YOU MIGHT SAY THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO MAKE YOUR ESTATE
ECONOMIES
WANT TO MAKE YOUR ESTATE ECONOMIES LOOK MORE LIKE MY
FRIEND
ECONOMIES LOOK MORE LIKE MY FRIEND GARY GRAY'S ECONOMY IN
LOUISIANA,
FRIEND GARY GRAY'S ECONOMY IN LOUISIANA, WHICH IS STILL
REELING
LOUISIANA, WHICH IS STILL REELING IN MANY RESPECTS FROM
THE
REELING IN MANY RESPECTS FROM THE BP OIL SPILL.
WHAT
THE BP OIL SPILL. WHAT DOES NEW OFFSHORE DRILLING
REPRESENT
WHAT DOES NEW OFFSHORE DRILLING REPRESENT FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE?
IS
PERSPECTIVE? IS IT A THREAT?
WHAT
IS IT A THREAT? WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THE COASTAL
ECONOMIES
WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THE COASTAL ECONOMIES OF YOUR STATES?
>>
ECONOMIES OF YOUR STATES? >> NORTH CAROLINA SAID, WE
OPPOSE
>> NORTH CAROLINA SAID, WE OPPOSE SEISMIC TESTING, WE
OPPOSE
OPPOSE SEISMIC TESTING, WE OPPOSE OFFSHORE DRILLING.
WE
OPPOSE OFFSHORE DRILLING. WE HAVE TOO MUCH INVESTED IN
OUR
WE HAVE TOO MUCH INVESTED IN OUR TOURISM ECONOMY, AND OUR
EMOTIONAL
OUR TOURISM ECONOMY, AND OUR EMOTIONAL AND RECREATIONAL
FISHING
EMOTIONAL AND RECREATIONAL FISHING ECONOMY, IN OUR PORTS,
WE
FISHING ECONOMY, IN OUR PORTS, WE CANNOT TOLERATE A DISASTER
OF
WE CANNOT TOLERATE A DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, WHICH
COULD
OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, WHICH COULD OCCUR, SO WE HAVE
CONTINUED
COULD OCCUR, SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO FILE COMMENTS, WE
HAVE
CONTINUED TO FILE COMMENTS, WE HAVE STATED OUR OPPOSITION,
WE'VE
HAVE STATED OUR OPPOSITION, WE'VE MET WITH FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES,
WE'VE MET WITH FEDERAL AUTHORITIES, AND WILL CONTINUE
TO
AUTHORITIES, AND WILL CONTINUE TO OPPOSE IT IN NORTH CAROLINA,
JUST
TO OPPOSE IT IN NORTH CAROLINA, JUST LIKE OVER 200 BIPARTISAN
LOCAL
JUST LIKE OVER 200 BIPARTISAN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE PASSED
RESOLUTIONS
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE PASSED RESOLUTIONS OPPOSING OFFSHORE
DRILLING
RESOLUTIONS OPPOSING OFFSHORE DRILLING OFF THE NORTH CAROLINA
COAST.
>>
COAST. >> THAT'S PRETTY UNANIMOUS
SUPPORT
>> THAT'S PRETTY UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR NOT SHOWING UP THE
COAST
SUPPORT FOR NOT SHOWING UP THE COAST OF MASSACHUSETTS, AS
WELL.
FOR
WELL. FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS.
WE
FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS. WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT
WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FISHERIES IN THE
UNITED
IMPORTANT FISHERIES IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE
UNITED STATES. THE NEW BEDFORD SCALLOP FISHERY
IS
THE NEW BEDFORD SCALLOP FISHERY IS MORE THAN $1 BILLION, I
THINK
IS MORE THAN $1 BILLION, I THINK IT'S THE LARGEST FROM A
DOLLAR
THINK IT'S THE LARGEST FROM A DOLLAR BASIS OF ANY FISHERY IN
THE
DOLLAR BASIS OF ANY FISHERY IN THE U.S. WE ALSO DEMONSTRATED
THAT
THE U.S. WE ALSO DEMONSTRATED THAT THE BEST AND BIGGEST
OPPORTUNITY
THAT THE BEST AND BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE BELIEVED
OFFSHORE
OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE BELIEVED OFFSHORE ENERGY ACTIVITY IS
AROUND
OFFSHORE ENERGY ACTIVITY IS AROUND DEEPWATER WIND.
AND
AROUND DEEPWATER WIND. AND JUST TO PUT POINTS ON THAT,
WE
AND JUST TO PUT POINTS ON THAT, WE PUT OUR BID OUT, WE TOOK THE
BEST
WE PUT OUR BID OUT, WE TOOK THE BEST OF THE BIDS THAT WE GOT,
BUT
BEST OF THE BIDS THAT WE GOT, BUT IVAN TOOK ONE OF THE BIDS,
CONNECTICUT
BUT IVAN TOOK ONE OF THE BIDS, CONNECTICUT ONE OF THE BIDS, AND
NEW
CONNECTICUT ONE OF THE BIDS, AND NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY, AND
VIRGINIA
NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY, AND VIRGINIA AND DELAWARE ALL OF A
SUDDEN
VIRGINIA AND DELAWARE ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT VERY INTERESTED IN
DEEPWATER
SUDDEN GOT VERY INTERESTED IN DEEPWATER WHEN THEY SAW THE
PRICE
DEEPWATER WHEN THEY SAW THE PRICE POINTS.
AND
PRICE POINTS. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE
BUREAU
AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE BUREAU OF ENERGY MANAGEMENT PUT
A
BUREAU OF ENERGY MANAGEMENT PUT A SERIES OF FEDERAL LEASES OUT
TO
A SERIES OF FEDERAL LEASES OUT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BIDS THEY
GOT
TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BIDS THEY GOT ON THOSE AND THEY GOT
TREMENDOUS
GOT ON THOSE AND THEY GOT TREMENDOUS BIDS ON THAT.
AND
TREMENDOUS BIDS ON THAT. AND I THINK IF WE ARE LOOKING
FOR
AND I THINK IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GROW ENERGY
RESOURCES
FOR A WAY TO GROW ENERGY RESOURCES ON THE EAST COAST, MY
IDEA
RESOURCES ON THE EAST COAST, MY IDEA WOULD BE LESS TO THE
DEEPWATER
IDEA WOULD BE LESS TO THE DEEPWATER WIND WHICH I BELIEVE
HAS
DEEPWATER WIND WHICH I BELIEVE HAS THE POTENTIAL.
BUT
HAS THE POTENTIAL. BUT THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, THE
FISHERY,
BUT THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, THE FISHERY, IT'S AN INDUSTRY THAT
ARE
FISHERY, IT'S AN INDUSTRY THAT ARE PART OF REALLY GOOD REASONS
.
>>
. >> WE
. >> WE NEVER HEARD OF A
CATASTROPHIC
>> WE NEVER HEARD OF A CATASTROPHIC WINNSBORO OFF THE
COAST,
CATASTROPHIC WINNSBORO OFF THE COAST, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A
PRUDENT
COAST, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRUDENT COURSE.
GOV.
BAKER,
GOV. BAKER, YOU REFERRED A LITTLE
BIT
BAKER, YOU REFERRED A LITTLE BIT TO THIS WHEN YOU TALKED
ABOUT
BIT TO THIS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACT ON
YOUR
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACT ON YOUR FISHERIES AND THIS IS
SOMETHING
YOUR FISHERIES AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DO VERY MUCH HAVE
IN
SOMETHING YOU DO VERY MUCH HAVE IN COMMON WITH LOUISIANA.
YOU
IN COMMON WITH LOUISIANA. YOU HAVE A THRIVING AND VERY
VIBRANT
YOU HAVE A THRIVING AND VERY VIBRANT COMMERCIAL FISHING
INDUSTRY.
BUT
INDUSTRY. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GULF
OF
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GULF OF MAINE IS ONE OF THE HOTSPOTS
FOR
OF MAINE IS ONE OF THE HOTSPOTS FOR OCEAN WARMING, IT'S WARMING
MUCH
FOR OCEAN WARMING, IT'S WARMING MUCH FASTER THAN MOST OF THE
PARTS
MUCH FASTER THAN MOST OF THE PARTS OF THE OCEAN.
COULD
PARTS OF THE OCEAN. COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THAT IS
DOING
COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THAT IS DOING TO THE MOVEMENT OF THESE
FISH
DOING TO THE MOVEMENT OF THESE FISH THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY
BEEN
FISH THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN THERE, HOW THAT MIGHT
IMPACT
BEEN THERE, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY
THAT
IMPACT THE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY THAT YOU REPRESENT AND COASTAL
FISHING
THAT YOU REPRESENT AND COASTAL FISHING COMMUNITIES?
>>
FISHING COMMUNITIES? >> IF YOU THINK PARTICULARLY
ABOUT
>> IF YOU THINK PARTICULARLY ABOUT COD, AND LOBSTER, WHICH
ARE
ABOUT COD, AND LOBSTER, WHICH ARE PROBABLY TO COMMERCIAL
FISHING
ARE PROBABLY TO COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE
IDENTIFIED
FISHING INDUSTRIES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED WITH MASSACHUSETTS
AND
IDENTIFIED WITH MASSACHUSETTS AND MAINE AS ANY YOU WILL FIND,
IN
AND MAINE AS ANY YOU WILL FIND, IN FACT THERE IS A CARD THAT IS
ACTUALLY
IN FACT THERE IS A CARD THAT IS ACTUALLY HANGING ON THE WALL IN
OUR
ACTUALLY HANGING ON THE WALL IN OUR STATEHOUSE REPRESENTATIVES
CHAMBER
OUR STATEHOUSE REPRESENTATIVES CHAMBER BECAUSE THAT IS
CONSIDERED
CHAMBER BECAUSE THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE KIND OF THE
SACRED
CONSIDERED TO BE KIND OF THE SACRED FISH.
AND
SACRED FISH. AND THAT COD FISHERY IS MOVING
NORTH,
AND THAT COD FISHERY IS MOVING NORTH, AND THE LOBSTER FISHERY
IS
NORTH, AND THE LOBSTER FISHERY IS MOVING NORTH AS WELL, WE ARE
VERY
IS MOVING NORTH AS WELL, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT AS THE
WATER
VERY CONCERNED THAT AS THE WATER CONTINUES TO WORK WARM IN
THE
WATER CONTINUES TO WORK WARM IN THE GULF OF MAINE THAT IT COULD
HAVE
THE GULF OF MAINE THAT IT COULD HAVE HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE
SHELF
HAVE HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE SHELF THIS INDUSTRY AS WELL.
IT'S
SHELF THIS INDUSTRY AS WELL. IT'S A VERY BIG PROBLEM, AND IT
IS
IT'S A VERY BIG PROBLEM, AND IT IS ONE THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE
PROJECT
IS ONE THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROJECT OUTCOME IS ARTIE
HAPPENING.
AND
HAPPENING. AND THERE AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN
THE
AND THERE AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE DATA, AND YOU CAN SEE IT
WHEN
THE DATA, AND YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU TALK TO ANY OF THE
FOLKS
WHEN YOU TALK TO ANY OF THE FOLKS WERE PART OF THOSE
FISHING
FOLKS WERE PART OF THOSE FISHING COMMUNITIES.
>>
FISHING COMMUNITIES. >> I WANT TO THANK THE
PANELISTS.
>>
PANELISTS. >> TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE
GOVERNORS
>> TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE GOVERNORS TIME, AND FOR THE
REST
GOVERNORS TIME, AND FOR THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES, WE ARE
GRACIOUS
REST OF MY COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GRACIOUS ENOUGH AN ADDITIONAL
10
GRACIOUS ENOUGH AN ADDITIONAL 10 MINUTES.
MAYBE
10 MINUTES. MAYBE WE CAN USE THAT TIME IN
THE
MAYBE WE CAN USE THAT TIME IN THE WILL HAVE TO ENTER THAT
POINT.
>>
POINT. >> THANK YOU, IN MY 10 SECONDS,
I
>> THANK YOU, IN MY 10 SECONDS, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE
SPEED
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE SPEED BY WHICH WE MOVE TOWARD
ZERO
SPEED BY WHICH WE MOVE TOWARD ZERO CARBON ECONOMIES.
HOW
ZERO CARBON ECONOMIES. HOW WOULD, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE,
YOU
HOW WOULD, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU BOTH HAVE STATED IN YOUR
TESTIMONY,
YOU BOTH HAVE STATED IN YOUR TESTIMONY, THAT YOU SET TARGETS
FOR
TESTIMONY, THAT YOU SET TARGETS FOR THE REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE
GASES.
CAN
GASES. CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, IF, TELL
HIM
CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, IF, TELL HIM ME IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS
ABOUT
HIM ME IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AT THE
FEDERAL
ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND SETTING
TARGETS,
FEDERAL LEVEL AND SETTING TARGETS, AND WHAT ARE THE
OBSTACLES
TARGETS, AND WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES YOU RECEIVED OR YOU
FOUND
OBSTACLES YOU RECEIVED OR YOU FOUND IN DOING THIS?
HOW
FOUND IN DOING THIS? HOW FAR CAN WE GO, BECAUSE I'M
LEANING
HOW FAR CAN WE GO, BECAUSE I'M LEANING TOWARD WHAT IS THE
BALANCE
LEANING TOWARD WHAT IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN A REGULATORY
APPROACH,
BALANCE BETWEEN A REGULATORY APPROACH, AND AN INCENTIVE
MARKET
APPROACH, AND AN INCENTIVE MARKET DRIVEN APPROACH, CAN THE
COUPLE
MARKET DRIVEN APPROACH, CAN THE COUPLE MET EACH OTHER, OR
SHOULD
COUPLE MET EACH OTHER, OR SHOULD WE JUST HAVE ONE VERSUS
THE
SHOULD WE JUST HAVE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER?
>>
THE OTHER? >> WE SET A GOAL IN NORTH
CAROLINA
>> WE SET A GOAL IN NORTH CAROLINA OF THE 40% REDUCTION
BY
CAROLINA OF THE 40% REDUCTION BY THE YEAR 2025, AND ONE THING
WE
BY THE YEAR 2025, AND ONE THING WE KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A
BALANCED
WE KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A BALANCED APPROACH, FOR EXAMPLE,
OUR
BALANCED APPROACH, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO
STANDARD,
OUR RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD, WE ARE MAKING
REQUIREMENTS
STANDARD, WE ARE MAKING REQUIREMENTS OF OUR UTILITIES,
TO
REQUIREMENTS OF OUR UTILITIES, TO INCREASE THEIR RENEWABLE
ENERGY
TO INCREASE THEIR RENEWABLE ENERGY PRODUCTION, WHILE AT THE
SAME
ENERGY PRODUCTION, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE DOING THINGS
TO
SAME TIME WE ARE DOING THINGS TO ENCOURAGE ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES,
TO ENCOURAGE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES, ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
THERE'S
VEHICLES, ENERGY EFFICIENCY. THERE'S GOT TO BE ACCOMMODATION
OF
THERE'S GOT TO BE ACCOMMODATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE BUT ONE
THING
OF ALL OF THE ABOVE BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT THE
UNITED
THING I DO KNOW IS THAT THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO BE A
WORLD
UNITED STATES NEEDS TO BE A WORLD LEADER AGAIN IN THIS
ISSUE.
AND
ISSUE. AND ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO
FROM
AND ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE AND
MAKE
FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WOULD
APPRECIATE
MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
OUR
APPRECIATE IT. OUR 20 STATE CLIMATE ALLIANCE
REPRESENTS
OUR 20 STATE CLIMATE ALLIANCE REPRESENTS ABOUT 37% OF THE
POPULATION
REPRESENTS ABOUT 37% OF THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES
AND
POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE
GROSS
AND A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT.
SO
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT. SO WE DO HAVE A STRONG VOICE
THAT
SO WE DO HAVE A STRONG VOICE THAT WE WANT THE UNITED STATES
TO
THAT WE WANT THE UNITED STATES TO BE A LEADER IN THIS AGAIN
AND
TO BE A LEADER IN THIS AGAIN AND ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO
LEGISLATIVELY
AND ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO LEGISLATIVELY FROM THE BULLY
PIT
LEGISLATIVELY FROM THE BULLY PIT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS
GREATLY
PIT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
IT'S
GREATLY APPRECIATED. IT'S ABSOLUTENESS VERY.
>>
IT'S ABSOLUTENESS VERY. >> I DO THINK THE MOST
IMPORTANT
>> I DO THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ESTABLISH
LONG-TERM
IMPORTANT THING IS TO ESTABLISH LONG-TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
BECAUSE
LONG-TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES BECAUSE THAT HELPS THE PRIVATE
SECTOR.
BECAUSE THAT HELPS THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THE SECOND THING I WAS
IS
SECTOR. THE SECOND THING I WAS IS THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES CAN
VARY
IS THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES CAN VARY FROM REGION TO REGION, AND
I
VARY FROM REGION TO REGION, AND I THAT, BACK TO LOUISIANA
VERSUS
I THAT, BACK TO LOUISIANA VERSUS MASSACHUSETTS ISSUE,
THAT'S
VERSUS MASSACHUSETTS ISSUE, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE ISSUE.
THE
THAT'S A LEGITIMATE ISSUE. THE REGIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS
COALITION
THE REGIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS COALITION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER
WITH
COALITION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WITH THE NORTHEASTERN STATES
AROUND
WITH THE NORTHEASTERN STATES AROUND ELECTRICITY AND ENERGY
PRODUCTION
AROUND ELECTRICITY AND ENERGY PRODUCTION HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY
EFFECTIVE
PRODUCTION HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING
GREENHOUSE
EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES, THROUGH
ENERGY
GREENHOUSE GASES, THROUGH ENERGY PRODUCTION, AND WE ARE
CURRENTLY
ENERGY PRODUCTION, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING TO THE SAME'S
DATES
CURRENTLY TALKING TO THE SAME'S DATES ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR
TRANSPORTATION,
DATES ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR TRANSPORTATION, WHICH I BELIEVE
WILL
TRANSPORTATION, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL HAVE THE MILLER
IMPLICATIONS
WILL HAVE THE MILLER IMPLICATIONS FOR NUDGING PEOPLE
AND
IMPLICATIONS FOR NUDGING PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MOVE 20
EMISSION
AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MOVE 20 EMISSION TYPE VEHICLES OVER
TIME.
AND
TIME. AND AS I SAID, OUR ECONOMY HAS
CONTINUED
AND AS I SAID, OUR ECONOMY HAS CONTINUED TO THEM PERFORM, EVEN
AS
CONTINUED TO THEM PERFORM, EVEN AS ARE ACTUALLY WERE ACTUAL
ENERGY
AS ARE ACTUALLY WERE ACTUAL ENERGY USE ESTATE FLAT, AND
AKRON
ENERGY USE ESTATE FLAT, AND AKRON HAS -- GREENHOUSE GAS
MISSIONS
AKRON HAS -- GREENHOUSE GAS MISSIONS HAVE GONE DOWN, BUT
ONE
MISSIONS HAVE GONE DOWN, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
THINGS
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS WE HAVE CREATE STATE-
BASED
THINGS IS WE HAVE CREATE STATE- BASED INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE
OUR
BASED INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE OUR BUSINESSES TO HEAD INTO
THIS
OUR BUSINESSES TO HEAD INTO THIS DIRECTION AND WE HAVE
ABOUT
THIS DIRECTION AND WE HAVE ABOUT 100,000 JOBS NOW IN
MASSACHUSETTS
ABOUT 100,000 JOBS NOW IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT ARE RELATED
TO
MASSACHUSETTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE GREEN ECONOMY GETTING
BACK
TO THE GREEN ECONOMY GETTING BACK TO THE POINT THAT GOV.
COOPER
BACK TO THE POINT THAT GOV. COOPER MADE PREVIOUS THE, WHICH
IS
COOPER MADE PREVIOUS THE, WHICH IS EVEN IN MASSACHUSETTS, THE
SOLAR
IS EVEN IN MASSACHUSETTS, THE SOLAR INDUSTRY HAS BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL
SOLAR INDUSTRY HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT FINDING A PATH
FORWARD
SUCCESSFUL AT FINDING A PATH FORWARD AND WE ARE NOW PARING
SOLAR
FORWARD AND WE ARE NOW PARING SOLAR INVESTMENTS WITH STORAGE
AND
SOLAR INVESTMENTS WITH STORAGE AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE
THE
AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN PLAY
A
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN PLAY A BIG ROLE.
STORAGE
A BIG ROLE. STORAGE HAS TREMENDOUS
POTENTIAL,
STORAGE HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL, AND HAS TREMENDOUS
POTENTIAL
POTENTIAL, AND HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL IN BOTH PRICE, AND
ENVIRONMENTAL
POTENTIAL IN BOTH PRICE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. THE TIME WE TYPICALLY BURN THE
MOST
THE TIME WE TYPICALLY BURN THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY DANGEROUS
FUELS
MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY DANGEROUS FUELS AT THE HIGHEST PRICE IS
WHEN
FUELS AT THE HIGHEST PRICE IS WHEN IT IS REALLY COLD OUT, OR
REALLY
WHEN IT IS REALLY COLD OUT, OR REALLY HOT OUT, AND, YOU KNOW,
WE
REALLY HOT OUT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PAYING A TON FOR WHAT WE
GET
WE ARE PAYING A TON FOR WHAT WE GET AND MOST OF THE TIME IT IS
OUR
GET AND MOST OF THE TIME IT IS OUR MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY
DANGEROUS
OUR MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY DANGEROUS SOURCES, AND I THINK
STORAGE
DANGEROUS SOURCES, AND I THINK STORAGE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO
DO
STORAGE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
>>
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. >> I WOULD SAY ONE THING, THANK
YOU
>> I WOULD SAY ONE THING, THANK YOU FOR THAT, I THINK THERE ARE
A
YOU FOR THAT, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT, I REPRESENT THE PORT
AREA
A LOT, I REPRESENT THE PORT AREA OF LONG BEACH,, WE REDUCE
OUR
AREA OF LONG BEACH,, WE REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE GASES BY 80% OF
HAVE
OUR GREENHOUSE GASES BY 80% OF HAVE THE GREATEST ECONOMIC
GROWTH,
HAVE THE GREATEST ECONOMIC GROWTH, BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO
GROWTH, BECAUSE OF THAT. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MODELS
OUT
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MODELS OUT THERE.
THE
OUT THERE. THE LAST THING IS, I THINK THAT
FOR
THE LAST THING IS, I THINK THAT FOR ALL ALL OF OUR REGIONAL
DIFFERENCES,
FOR ALL ALL OF OUR REGIONAL DIFFERENCES, I'M GLAD THAT IT
WAS
DIFFERENCES, I'M GLAD THAT IT WAS MENTIONED, THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN
WAS MENTIONED, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOUISIANA AND
MASSACHUSETTS,
BETWEEN LOUISIANA AND MASSACHUSETTS, YOU POINTED THAT
OUT,
MASSACHUSETTS, YOU POINTED THAT OUT, I THINK THE TRANSITION TO
A
OUT, I THINK THE TRANSITION TO A GREEN ECONOMY, WHICH WE ARE
DOING,
A GREEN ECONOMY, WHICH WE ARE DOING, AND GREEN ENERGY, IS
GOING
DOING, AND GREEN ENERGY, IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT
TRANSITION
GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT TRANSITION IN WORKERS, AND
RESOURCES
TRANSITION IN WORKERS, AND RESOURCES FOR DIFFERENT REGIONS
AND
RESOURCES FOR DIFFERENT REGIONS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
IT'S
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S AT LEAST MENTIONED EVEN
THOUGH
IT'S AT LEAST MENTIONED EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION
THOUGH WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION OF HOW WE REACH THAT
GOAL.
>>
GOAL. >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, TEXAS IS A
VERY
>> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, TEXAS IS A VERY BIG OIL AND GAS STATE, AND
ALSO
VERY BIG OIL AND GAS STATE, AND ALSO IS A VERY BIG WIND AND
SOLAR
ALSO IS A VERY BIG WIND AND SOLAR STATE.
IT'S
SOLAR STATE. IT'S A BIG ENERGY STATE.
AND
IT'S A BIG ENERGY STATE. AND I WONDER IF THAT IS ONE OF
THE
AND I WONDER IF THAT IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN RESOLVE
THIS
THE WAYS THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD.
>>
THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR, GOV.
COOPER,
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR, GOV. COOPER, GOV.
BAKER,
COOPER, GOV. BAKER, FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
YOU
BAKER, FOR BEING HERE TODAY. YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY WHEN I COME
TO
YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY WHEN I COME TO WORK, FOR THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA,
TO WORK, FOR THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CENTRAL VALLEY,
I
CALIFORNIA, THE CENTRAL VALLEY, I THINK, WHAT WE DO, HOW THAT
WILL
I THINK, WHAT WE DO, HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR LIVES,
PARTICULARLY
WILL AFFECT THEIR LIVES, PARTICULARLY IN THESE RURAL
COMMUNITIES
PARTICULARLY IN THESE RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT REPRESENT.
AND
COMMUNITIES THAT REPRESENT. AND WHILE IT IS CLEAR IS THAT
CLIMATE
AND WHILE IT IS CLEAR IS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL,
ACCORDING
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL
CLIMATE
ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT, RURAL
COMMUNITIES
CLIMATE ASSESSMENT, RURAL COMMUNITIES -- BECAUSE THEY ARE
SO
COMMUNITIES -- BECAUSE THEY ARE SO HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON OUR
NATURAL
SO HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND
NATURAL RESOURCES. AND CERTAINLY CALIFORNIA WE'VE
SEEN
AND CERTAINLY CALIFORNIA WE'VE SEEN THOSE DIRECTIVE PACKS, THE
HEAT
SEEN THOSE DIRECTIVE PACKS, THE HEAT WAVE, THE FIRES, THE
DROUGHT.
AND
DROUGHT. AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S ONLY GOING
TO
AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE ONCE REDUCE OR
UNLESS
TO GET WORSE ONCE REDUCE OR UNLESS WE DESERVING ABOUT IT
BUT
UNLESS WE DESERVING ABOUT IT BUT MY PARTICULAR CONCERN AND
INTEREST,
BUT MY PARTICULAR CONCERN AND INTEREST, AND GOV.
BAKER,
INTEREST, AND GOV. BAKER, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
WORKED
BAKER, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WORKED IN THE HEALTHCARE
INDUSTRY,
WORKED IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY, IS REALLY THE LINKAGE
BETWEEN
INDUSTRY, IS REALLY THE LINKAGE BETWEEN CLIMATE CHANGE, AND
PUBLIC
BETWEEN CLIMATE CHANGE, AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
PARTICULARLY
PUBLIC HEALTH. PARTICULARLY PUBLIC HEALTH, HOW
IT'S
PARTICULARLY PUBLIC HEALTH, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE RURAL
COMMUNITIES.
>>
COMMUNITIES. >> I THINK THE TWO THINGS I CAN
SPEAK
>> I THINK THE TWO THINGS I CAN SPEAK TO ON THAT, THE FIRST IS
OBVIOUSLY
SPEAK TO ON THAT, THE FIRST IS OBVIOUSLY THE AIR QUALITY
ISSUE,
OBVIOUSLY THE AIR QUALITY ISSUE, WHICH, CONGRESSMAN BISHOP
MENTIONED
ISSUE, WHICH, CONGRESSMAN BISHOP MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE
DEFINITELY
MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY AIR-QUALITY ISSUES
ASSOCIATED
DEFINITELY AIR-QUALITY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH AIR-QUALITY.
WITH
ASSOCIATED WITH AIR-QUALITY. WITH ACUTE AND CHRONIC ISSUES
THAT
WITH ACUTE AND CHRONIC ISSUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATE WITH THAT.
THE
THAT ARE ASSOCIATE WITH THAT. THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY
WITH
THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY WITH RESPECT TO THE RURAL PIECE
IS
WITH RESPECT TO THE RURAL PIECE IS THE ROLE COMMUNITIES
GENERALLY
IS THE ROLE COMMUNITIES GENERALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY NOT
JUST
GENERALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY NOT JUST WITH CLIMATE, BUT WITH
ACCESS
JUST WITH CLIMATE, BUT WITH ACCESS TO WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE
AS
ACCESS TO WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS SORT OF MODERN AND SORT OF
STANDARD
AS SORT OF MODERN AND SORT OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE
TECHNOLOGY
STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU SEE IN
OTHER
TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PLACES.
ONE
OTHER PLACES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT
WE
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A
WESTERN
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A WESTERN MASS, AND HAS MANY
WHOLE
WESTERN MASS, AND HAS MANY WHOLE TOWNS OF MANY RURAL
COMMUNITIES,
WHOLE TOWNS OF MANY RURAL COMMUNITIES, IS BROADBAND.
WHICH
COMMUNITIES, IS BROADBAND. WHICH IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE IN
TERMS
WHICH IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AND
TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SORT OF FUTURE CAPACITY TO
SUPPORT
AND SORT OF FUTURE CAPACITY TO SUPPORT AND SERVE THE PEOPLE
WHO
SUPPORT AND SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES
AND
WHO LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE JOBS AND ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES,
AND PROVIDE JOBS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, AND I THINK IN
MANY
OPPORTUNITIES, AND I THINK IN MANY WAYS, THE STRATEGY AROUND
RURAL
MANY WAYS, THE STRATEGY AROUND RURAL COMMUNITIES NEEDS TO BE
ABOUT
RURAL COMMUNITIES NEEDS TO BE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, ONE OF
WHICH
ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, ONE OF WHICH RELATES TO ENERGY AND
CLIMATE
WHICH RELATES TO ENERGY AND CLIMATE BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF
THINGS
CLIMATE BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH
RURAL
THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH RURAL COMMUNITIES.
THEY
RURAL COMMUNITIES. THEY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT ISSUES
THEY
THEY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT ISSUES THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.
>>
THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. >> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT
REGARDING
>> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT REGARDING AIR QUALITY IN THE
SAN
REGARDING AIR QUALITY IN THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY.
IT'S
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. IT'S THE WORST AIR-QUALITY BASE
IN
IT'S THE WORST AIR-QUALITY BASE IN THE NATION.
IT'S
IN THE NATION. IT'S SUCH A SHAME, THAT WE GET
TO
IT'S SUCH A SHAME, THAT WE GET TO THE MOUNTAINS ONCE OR TWICE
A
TO THE MOUNTAINS ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, RIGHT?
AFTER
A YEAR, RIGHT? AFTER A NICE RAINFALL.
AND
AFTER A NICE RAINFALL. AND GOV.
COOPER,
>>
COOPER, >> WHEN WE FORCE THE TENNESSEE
VALLEY
>> WHEN WE FORCE THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY TO REDUCE THE
EMISSIONS,
VALLEY AUTHORITY TO REDUCE THE EMISSIONS, IT WAS A
DEMONSTRABLE,
EMISSIONS, IT WAS A DEMONSTRABLE, POSITIVE AFFECT.
ON
DEMONSTRABLE, POSITIVE AFFECT. ON PUBLIC HEALTH.
THAT
ON PUBLIC HEALTH. THAT MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, AND
FROM
THAT MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, AND FROM THE RURAL PERSPECTIVE,
FARMERS
FROM THE RURAL PERSPECTIVE, FARMERS ARE GETTING HIT HARD BY
THE
FARMERS ARE GETTING HIT HARD BY THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE,
AND
THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND THEY KNOW IT, AND YOU HEAR
FROM
AND THEY KNOW IT, AND YOU HEAR FROM THEM, BECAUSE IN NORTH
CAROLINA,
FROM THEM, BECAUSE IN NORTH CAROLINA, NOW, WE HAVE MADE
SIGNIFICANT
CAROLINA, NOW, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STATE APPROPRIATION
TO
SIGNIFICANT STATE APPROPRIATION TO GET SOME IMMEDIATE HELP TO
OUR
TO GET SOME IMMEDIATE HELP TO OUR FARMERS.
MANY
OUR FARMERS. MANY OF THEM HIT BY FLOOD AFTER
FLOOD,
MANY OF THEM HIT BY FLOOD AFTER FLOOD, STORM AFTER STORM.
WE
FLOOD, STORM AFTER STORM. WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO MAKE
THE
WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO MAKE THE DECISION, THIS IS JUST NOT
WORTH
THE DECISION, THIS IS JUST NOT WORTH IT, IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO
BE
WORTH IT, IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO BE IN THIS BUSINESS.
THAT
BE IN THIS BUSINESS. THAT SHOULD BE A FRIGHTENING
RESULT,
THAT SHOULD BE A FRIGHTENING RESULT, NOT ONLY FOR MY STATE,
BEFORE
RESULT, NOT ONLY FOR MY STATE, BEFORE FOR THE REST OF THE
COUNTRY
BEFORE FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD FOR THAT
MATTER.
>>
MATTER. >> GOVERNORS, OUR APPRECIATION,
THANK
>> GOVERNORS, OUR APPRECIATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY.
MEMBERS
TESTIMONY. MEMBERS HAVE UP TO THREE DAYS
TO
MEMBERS HAVE UP TO THREE DAYS TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS THAT WE
WILL
TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL FORWARD TO YOU AND WE WILL
BE
WILL FORWARD TO YOU AND WE WILL BE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO RESPOND
TO
BE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO THEM, PARTICULARLY THE
MEMBERS
TO THEM, PARTICULARLY THE MEMBERS WHO DID NOT HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY
MEMBERS WHO DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO ASK
QUESTIONS
OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO ASK QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS, OR
HAVE
QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS, OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU.
>>
HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU. >> YOU FOR THAT.
>>
>> YOU FOR THAT. >> ONE LAST THING, I WILL BE
ASKING
>> ONE LAST THING, I WILL BE ASKING SOME QUESTIONS, AS WELL,
TO
ASKING SOME QUESTIONS, AS WELL, TO YOU.
SPECIFICALLY
TO YOU. SPECIFICALLY ON MR. HOFFMAN'S
RESPONSE,
SPECIFICALLY ON MR. HOFFMAN'S RESPONSE, THE QUESTION ON
OFFSHORE
RESPONSE, THE QUESTION ON OFFSHORE DRILLING THAT IF HE
THINKS
OFFSHORE DRILLING THAT IF HE THINKS THE GOVERNORS OR THE
STATE
THINKS THE GOVERNORS OR THE STATE HAS A RIGHT OR AT LEAST A
SAY
STATE HAS A RIGHT OR AT LEAST A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS ON FEDERAL
WATERS
SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS ON FEDERAL WATERS OFF YOUR SHORES AND IF
YOUR
WATERS OFF YOUR SHORES AND IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THEN GOING
TO
YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THEN GOING TO WONDER WHY MY GOVERNOR
DOESN'T
TO WONDER WHY MY GOVERNOR DOESN'T HAVE A RIGHT AND SAY ON
FEDERAL
DOESN'T HAVE A RIGHT AND SAY ON FEDERAL LANDS WITHIN MY STATE,
ANYTHING
FEDERAL LANDS WITHIN MY STATE, ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT IS
HYPOCRITICAL
ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT IS HYPOCRITICAL AND THAT ISSUE IS
SOMETHING
HYPOCRITICAL AND THAT ISSUE IS SOMETHING IS A JURISDICTION OF
OUR
SOMETHING IS A JURISDICTION OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>>
OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU
FOR
>> WE APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU FOR INITIATING THIS VERY
IMPORTANT
FOR INITIATING THIS VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
AND
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. AND SOLUTION SEEKING HERE IN
THIS
AND SOLUTION SEEKING HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE.
WITH
THIS COMMITTEE. WITH THAT LET ME INVITE THE
SECOND
WITH THAT LET ME INVITE THE SECOND PANEL UP, AND WE WILL
BEGIN
SECOND PANEL UP, AND WE WILL BEGIN THEN.
>>
BEGIN THEN. >> I BEGIN THE QUESTIONING, FOR
MEMBERS
>> I BEGIN THE QUESTIONING, FOR MEMBERS WHO DO NOT HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY
MEMBERS WHO DO NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SECOND
PANEL.
NEW
PANEL. NEW MEMBERS.
>>
NEW MEMBERS. >> LET ME INTRODUCE THE SECOND
PANEL,
>> LET ME INTRODUCE THE SECOND PANEL, WE HAVE MISSED
ELIZABETH,
PANEL, WE HAVE MISSED ELIZABETH, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR
ELIZABETH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UP ROSE.
THIS
DIRECTOR OF UP ROSE. THIS NADIA, THE COFOUNDER AND
COEXECUTIVE
THIS NADIA, THE COFOUNDER AND COEXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
ZERO
COEXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ZERO HOUR MOVEMENT.
DR.
ZERO HOUR MOVEMENT. DR. KIM CALLED, DIRECTOR OF THE
GLOBAL
DR. KIM CALLED, DIRECTOR OF THE GLOBAL CHANGE PROGRAM, AND THE
GEORGIA
GLOBAL CHANGE PROGRAM, AND THE GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF
TECHNOLOGY.
MISS
TECHNOLOGY. MISS BULLET, SPECIAL ADVISOR,
CDP,
MISS BULLET, SPECIAL ADVISOR, CDP, NORTH AMERICA.
REV.
CDP, NORTH AMERICA. REV. LENNIX, MR. DEREK COLEY,
PRESIDENT
REV. LENNIX, MR. DEREK COLEY, PRESIDENT OF REGION AMERICA AND
DR.
PRESIDENT OF REGION AMERICA AND DR. JUDITH CURRY, PRESIDENT OF
CLIMATE
DR. JUDITH CURRY, PRESIDENT OF CLIMATE APPLICATIONS THAT WORK.
AS
CLIMATE APPLICATIONS THAT WORK. AS OF THE FIRST PANEL, YOU ARE
LIMITED
AS OF THE FIRST PANEL, YOU ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES, YOUR
ENTIRE
LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES, YOUR ENTIRE STATEMENT WILL BE PART
OF
ENTIRE STATEMENT WILL BE PART OF THE HEARING RECORDS.
I
OF THE HEARING RECORDS. I EXPLAIN THE LIGHTS, YELLOW,
THAT
I EXPLAIN THE LIGHTS, YELLOW, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A MINUTE,
RED,
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A MINUTE, RED, FOR THE SAKE OF EVERYBODY
HAVING
RED, FOR THE SAKE OF EVERYBODY HAVING THEIR QUESTIONS AND
ADDITIONAL
HAVING THEIR QUESTIONS AND ADDITIONAL TIME TO ENGAGE WITH
THE
ADDITIONAL TIME TO ENGAGE WITH THE WITNESSES TODAY.
WE
THE WITNESSES TODAY. WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD
STOP
WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD STOP AT THAT POINT.
AND
STOP AT THAT POINT. AND I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR,
LET
AND I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR, LET ME BEGIN, LET ME BEGIN WITH
MISS
LET ME BEGIN, LET ME BEGIN WITH MISS LAZAR.
YOUR
MISS LAZAR. YOUR FIVE MINUTES, THANK YOU
FOR
YOUR FIVE MINUTES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I
FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE IT.
I
I APPRECIATE IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS
AND
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
>>
AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE. >> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME
HERE
>> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME HERE TODAY.
I
HERE TODAY. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE ON THE
LAND
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE ON THE LAND OF AND DISEASE TRY.
MY
LAND OF AND DISEASE TRY. MY NAME IS NADIA, I AM 16 YEARS
OLD
MY NAME IS NADIA, I AM 16 YEARS OLD AND I'M A JUNIOR IN HIGH
SCHOOL
OLD AND I'M A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND.
I'M
SCHOOL IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND. I'M AN ARTIST AND
ENVIRONMENTALIST.
I
ENVIRONMENTALIST. I DEDICATED MY TIME AND EFFORTS
TO
I DEDICATED MY TIME AND EFFORTS TO COMMUNITY AND ANIMALS ON
THIS
TO COMMUNITY AND ANIMALS ON THIS PLANET SINCE I WAS 12
YEARS
THIS PLANET SINCE I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
I
YEARS OLD. I AM THE FOUNDER OF THE YOUTH
BY
I AM THE FOUNDER OF THE YOUTH BY CLIMATE ORGANIZATION ZERO
HOUR.
HE
HOUR. HE SAY THIS IS ZERO HOUR
BECAUSE
HE SAY THIS IS ZERO HOUR BECAUSE THIS IS ZERO HOUR
CHANGE.
TO
CHANGE. TO EDUCATE THEIR PEERS ABOUT,
JUSTICE.
LIMA
JUSTICE. LIMA CHANGE IS ALREADY
IMPACTING
LIMA CHANGE IS ALREADY IMPACTING MY FUTURE.
SIGNED
IMPACTING MY FUTURE. SIGNED TO SAY WE WILL BE IN
ERROR
SIGNED TO SAY WE WILL BE IN ERROR IRREVERSIBLE CLIMATE
CHAOS
ERROR IRREVERSIBLE CLIMATE CHAOS BY 2030 IF WE DON'T
DRASTICALLY
CHAOS BY 2030 IF WE DON'T DRASTICALLY REDUCE OUR MISSIONS
RIGHT
DRASTICALLY REDUCE OUR MISSIONS RIGHT NOW.
I'LL
RIGHT NOW. I'LL BE 28 YEARS OLD IN 2030.
OUR
I'LL BE 28 YEARS OLD IN 2030. OUR WORLD IS ALREADY
EXPERIENCING
OUR WORLD IS ALREADY EXPERIENCING THE IMPACT OF
GLOBAL
EXPERIENCING THE IMPACT OF GLOBAL WARMING, AND LIVING
CONDITIONS
GLOBAL WARMING, AND LIVING CONDITIONS WILL ONLY GET CLOSER
AND
CONDITIONS WILL ONLY GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE EXTREME.
HUMANITY
AND CLOSER TO THE EXTREME. HUMANITY HAS PUSHED THIS PLANET
TO
HUMANITY HAS PUSHED THIS PLANET TO THE EDGE AND FOR MY VIEW IT
SEEMS
TO THE EDGE AND FOR MY VIEW IT SEEMS THAT FEW AND POLICY IN
THE
SEEMS THAT FEW AND POLICY IN THE POLITICAL WORLD ARE PAYING
ATTENTION
THE POLITICAL WORLD ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CONSEQUENCES
OF
ATTENTION TO THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR ACTIONS OVER THE
GENERATIONS.
THE
GENERATIONS. THE CLIMATE CRISIS EXASPERATES
PROBLEMS
THE CLIMATE CRISIS EXASPERATES PROBLEMS THAT ARE ALREADY
PREVALENT.
ESPECIALLY
PREVALENT. ESPECIALLY IN DEVELOPING
NATIONS.
CLEAN
NATIONS. CLEAN WATER, VITAL ELEMENT TO
LIFE,
CLEAN WATER, VITAL ELEMENT TO LIFE, IS BECOMING EVEN MORE
SCARCE.
EXTREME
SCARCE. EXTREME WEATHER AND AND NATURAL
DISASTERS
EXTREME WEATHER AND AND NATURAL DISASTERS ARE NOT THE NORM
CRATING
DISASTERS ARE NOT THE NORM CRATING NEW CRISES AGAINST
VERBAL
CRATING NEW CRISES AGAINST VERBAL POPULATIONS.
THE
VERBAL POPULATIONS. THE U.S. IS HISTORICALLY THE
LARGEST
THE U.S. IS HISTORICALLY THE LARGEST EMITTER OF GREENHOUSE
GASES,
LARGEST EMITTER OF GREENHOUSE GASES, BUT THOSE WHO ARE FACING
THE
GASES, BUT THOSE WHO ARE FACING THE MOST SEVERE CONSEQUENCES
ARE
THE MOST SEVERE CONSEQUENCES ARE THE PEOPLE IN DEVELOPING
COUNTRIES,
ARE THE PEOPLE IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, AND THOSE IN LOWER
INCOME
COUNTRIES, AND THOSE IN LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES.
PEOPLE
INCOME COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE IN POVERTY HAVE LESS
ACCESS
PEOPLE IN POVERTY HAVE LESS ACCESS TO RESOURCES NEEDED TO
SURVIVE
ACCESS TO RESOURCES NEEDED TO SURVIVE WHEN CLIMATE EXTREMES
TAKE
SURVIVE WHEN CLIMATE EXTREMES TAKE PLACE.
MARINE
TAKE PLACE. MARINE LIFE SUCH AS SEA TURTLES
AND
MARINE LIFE SUCH AS SEA TURTLES AND WHALES AND OTHER SPECIES
ARE
AND WHALES AND OTHER SPECIES ARE FACING A MASS EXTINCTION
BECAUSE
ARE FACING A MASS EXTINCTION BECAUSE OF THE WARMER OCEAN
WATERS
BECAUSE OF THE WARMER OCEAN WATERS THAT WE HUMANS HAVE
CAUSED.
MY
CAUSED. MY COMMUNITY IN BALTIMORE
DEPENDS
MY COMMUNITY IN BALTIMORE DEPENDS ON CHESAPEAKE BAY.
THE
DEPENDS ON CHESAPEAKE BAY. THE WOMAN WHAT IS NOT ONLY HARM
FUTURE
THE WOMAN WHAT IS NOT ONLY HARM FUTURE GENERATIONS OF MY
COMMUNITY
FUTURE GENERATIONS OF MY COMMUNITY BUT WILL ALSO HAVE
GENERATIONS
COMMUNITY BUT WILL ALSO HAVE GENERATIONS AROUND THE WORLD
THAT
GENERATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT RELY ON BODIES OF WATER
FOR
THAT RELY ON BODIES OF WATER FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS.
THE
FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS. THE POLICYMAKERS HAVE BEEN
OTHER
THE POLICYMAKERS HAVE BEEN OTHER PRIVATE INDUSTRIES, THE
PEOPLE,
OTHER PRIVATE INDUSTRIES, THE PEOPLE, THE WILDLIFE IN THIS
PLANET.
THE
PLANET. THE LIVES OF MY GENERATION HAVE
BEEN
THE LIVES OF MY GENERATION HAVE BEEN DISREGARDED FOR FAR TOO
LONG.
WE
LONG. WE SHOULD PUT THE INTEREST OF
YOUR
WE SHOULD PUT THE INTEREST OF YOUR FUTURE GENERATIONS FIRST.
NOT
YOUR FUTURE GENERATIONS FIRST. NOT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT
THING
NOT BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT BECAUSE MANY OF
US
THING TO DO BUT BECAUSE MANY OF US HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE IN
JUST
US HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE IN JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE
JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE CARE ABOUT CLEAN AIR AND
CLEAN
WE CARE ABOUT CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER AND WILL BE VOTING
FOR
CLEAN WATER AND WILL BE VOTING FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ADDRESS
CLIMATE
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE HEAD-ON.
SOME
CLIMATE CHANGE HEAD-ON. SOME OF MY FRIENDS SAY THEY
DON'T
SOME OF MY FRIENDS SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN,
BECAUSE
DON'T WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN, BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT
THE
BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE KIND OF LIVES THEY WILL
HAVE
THE KIND OF LIVES THEY WILL HAVE TO LIVE ON A WARMING
PLANET.
AS
PLANET. AS A RATES WILL BE HIGHER, LESS
ACCESS
AS A RATES WILL BE HIGHER, LESS ACCESS TO FOOD, AND MORE
EXTREME
ACCESS TO FOOD, AND MORE EXTREME AFTER DISASTERS AND
WHETHER
EXTREME AFTER DISASTERS AND WHETHER WILL OCCUR, ALL TO THE
CLIMATE
WHETHER WILL OCCUR, ALL TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT
CLIMATE CHANGE. IT ONLY THREATENS THE FUTURE OF
MY
IT ONLY THREATENS THE FUTURE OF MY GENERATION, BUT IT CONTINUES
TO
MY GENERATION, BUT IT CONTINUES TO DISPLACE AND KILL PEOPLE.
MY
TO DISPLACE AND KILL PEOPLE. MY FAMILY IN INDIA EXPERIENCED
FLOODS
MY FAMILY IN INDIA EXPERIENCED FLOODS THAT OCCURRED THERE THIS
PAST
FLOODS THAT OCCURRED THERE THIS PAST SUMMER.
THE
PAST SUMMER. THE FLOODS DISPLACED
APPROXIMATELY
THE FLOODS DISPLACED APPROXIMATELY 800,000 PEOPLE,
AND
APPROXIMATELY 800,000 PEOPLE, AND KILLED 483 PEOPLE.
AROUND
AND KILLED 483 PEOPLE. AROUND THE SAME TIME MY FRIENDS
IN
AROUND THE SAME TIME MY FRIENDS IN MARYLAND EXPERIENCED FLOODS
THAT
IN MARYLAND EXPERIENCED FLOODS THAT CAUSED HIS LANDSLIDES.
CLIMATE
THAT CAUSED HIS LANDSLIDES. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN
HAPPENING,
CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN HAPPENING, CLIMATE CHANGE IS
HAPPENING, CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING, CLIMATE CHANGE WILL
CONTINUE
HAPPENING, CLIMATE CHANGE WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
,
CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. , CHANGE IS MY FUTURE, UNLESS
YOU
, CHANGE IS MY FUTURE, UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT RIGHT
NOW.
MY
NOW. MY GENERATION INCLUDES YOUR
CHILDREN
MY GENERATION INCLUDES YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN.
I
CHILDREN AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. I SEE CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN
ISSUE
I SEE CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN ISSUE THAT CONNECTS EVERYONE
AND
ISSUE THAT CONNECTS EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING ON OUR PLANET.
THIS
AND EVERYTHING ON OUR PLANET. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT CHANGES
IN
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT CHANGES IN THE WEATHER.
IT'S
IN THE WEATHER. IT'S ROUGH THESE CHANGES WILL
IMPACT
IT'S ROUGH THESE CHANGES WILL IMPACT PLACES ALL AROUND THE
WORLD.
IF
WORLD. IF THERE IS NO FOOD, THAT CAN
CAUSE
IF THERE IS NO FOOD, THAT CAN CAUSE WERE.
IN
CAUSE WERE. IN THE MOST FORMAL POPULATIONS,
RESUME,
IN THE MOST FORMAL POPULATIONS, RESUME, MAJORITY, COLONIAL
COLONIALISM
RESUME, MAJORITY, COLONIAL COLONIALISM AND WILL BE THE ONE
TO
COLONIALISM AND WILL BE THE ONE TO SUFFER.
THESE
TO SUFFER. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO
OFTEN
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO OFTEN LEFT OUT OF CONVERSATION
ABOUT
OFTEN LEFT OUT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE AIR
AND
ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE AIR AND WATER, ABOUT ENERGY, ABOUT
HOW
AND WATER, ABOUT ENERGY, ABOUT HOW WE TREAT THIS LAND.
WE
HOW WE TREAT THIS LAND. WE HAVE ZERO HOUR BELIEVE THAT
NOT
WE HAVE ZERO HOUR BELIEVE THAT NOT ONLY THE VOICES OF THE
NATIONS
NOT ONLY THE VOICES OF THE NATIONS HAVE BEEN IGNORED BY
OTHERS
NATIONS HAVE BEEN IGNORED BY OTHERS AS WELL.
WOMEN,
OTHERS AS WELL. WOMEN, PEOPLE OF COLOR,
INDIGENOUS
WOMEN, PEOPLE OF COLOR, INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, AND
SOME
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, AND SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE
POPULATIONS.
HOW
POPULATIONS. HOW CAN WE PROGRESS TOWARD AN
EQUAL
HOW CAN WE PROGRESS TOWARD AN EQUAL AND EQUITABLE SOCIETY OF
JUSTICE
EQUAL AND EQUITABLE SOCIETY OF JUSTICE IF WE CAN'T LISTEN TO
THOSE
JUSTICE IF WE CAN'T LISTEN TO THOSE WHO MAKE UP OUR COUNTRY.
I
THOSE WHO MAKE UP OUR COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE MUST
WORK
I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE MUST WORK TOGETHER, UNITED, AND WITH
COMPASSION
WORK TOGETHER, UNITED, AND WITH COMPASSION ON THIS ISSUE.
THOSE
COMPASSION ON THIS ISSUE. THOSE WHO HOLD THE MOST POWER
AND
THOSE WHO HOLD THE MOST POWER AND INFLUENCE IN OUR SOCIETY
SHOULD
AND INFLUENCE IN OUR SOCIETY SHOULD WORK WITH THOSE WORKING
IN
SHOULD WORK WITH THOSE WORKING IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
I
IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES. I ASKED OF YOU, CONGRESS, TO
WORK
I ASKED OF YOU, CONGRESS, TO WORK WITH THE GRASSROOTS
CLIMATE
WORK WITH THE GRASSROOTS CLIMATE MOVEMENT, INCLUDING THE
USE,
CLIMATE MOVEMENT, INCLUDING THE USE, AND LISTEN TO THEM IN
ORDER
USE, AND LISTEN TO THEM IN ORDER TO BRING SUSTAINABLE
CHANGE
ORDER TO BRING SUSTAINABLE CHANGE SWIFTLY IN TIME FOR MY
GENERATION
CHANGE SWIFTLY IN TIME FOR MY GENERATION AND I TO BE ABLE TO
ENJOY
GENERATION AND I TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE
PURSUIT
ENJOY LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
THANK
PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THANK YOU.
>>
THANK YOU. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>>
>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH, ON THE
CULTURE
>> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH, ON THE CULTURE OF THE CLIMATE JUSTICE
ALLIANCE.
IT'S
ALLIANCE. IT'S MORE THAN 68, THE MOVEMENT
NECK
IT'S MORE THAN 68, THE MOVEMENT NECK WERE NETWORKS.
ROOTED
NECK WERE NETWORKS. ROOTED IN INDIGENOUS AND
AFRICAN-AMERICAN,
ROOTED IN INDIGENOUS AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN, ASIAN PACIFIC
ISLANDER
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER AND BY COMMITTEES
LIVING
ISLANDER AND BY COMMITTEES LIVING ON THE FRONT LINES OF
CLIMATE
LIVING ON THE FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS THE
INDUSTRIES
CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRIES CAUSING THE CLIMATE
CRISIS.
I'M
CRISIS. I'M ALSO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
UP
I'M ALSO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UP ROSE, IT'S A WOMAN OF COLOR
LED
UP ROSE, IT'S A WOMAN OF COLOR LED INTRAGENERATIONAL
ORGANIZATION
LED INTRAGENERATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 1966.
DEDICATED
ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 1966. DEDICATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL
SOCIAL
DEDICATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL JUSTICE. WE ARE HOME TO
THE
SOCIAL JUSTICE. WE ARE HOME TO THE LARGEST GATHERING OF YOUNG
PEOPLE
THE LARGEST GATHERING OF YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR AND CLIMATE
JUSTICE.
WE
JUSTICE. WE ARE LOCATED IN SUSSEX PARK,
BROOKLYN,
WE ARE LOCATED IN SUSSEX PARK, BROOKLYN, DIVERSE COMMUNITY OF
COLOR
BROOKLYN, DIVERSE COMMUNITY OF COLOR MADE UP PREDOMINANTLY OF
PEOPLE
COLOR MADE UP PREDOMINANTLY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AND IMMIGRANTS.
WE
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND IMMIGRANTS. WE HAVE A POVERTY RATE OF
NEARLY
WE HAVE A POVERTY RATE OF NEARLY 26% ABOVE THE CITY
AVERAGE
NEARLY 26% ABOVE THE CITY AVERAGE AND FAR ABOVE THE
NATIONAL
AVERAGE AND FAR ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
FROM
NATIONAL AVERAGE. FROM A CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE, WE
ARE
FROM A CLIMATE PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE IN INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONT
COMMUNITY,
ARE IN INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONT COMMUNITY, EXPLOSIVE FLOODING
FROM
COMMUNITY, EXPLOSIVE FLOODING FROM HURRICANES AND SURGES, AS
WAS
FROM HURRICANES AND SURGES, AS WAS THE CASE THOUSAND 12 THE
SUPER
WAS THE CASE THOUSAND 12 THE SUPER STORM SANDY HIT.
LIKE
SUPER STORM SANDY HIT. LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE THE
CONDITIONS
LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE THE CONDITIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES
ARE
CONDITIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THE CONSEQUENT OF A LONG
HISTORY
ARE THE CONSEQUENT OF A LONG HISTORY OF EXTRACTIONS, WE
SHARE
HISTORY OF EXTRACTIONS, WE SHARE LEGACIES OF FIGHTING
COLONIALISM
SHARE LEGACIES OF FIGHTING COLONIALISM AS WELL AS A RACE,
CLASS
COLONIALISM AS WELL AS A RACE, CLASS AND GENDER OPPRESSION
WHILE
CLASS AND GENDER OPPRESSION WHILE ADVOCATING FOR
ENVIRONMENT
WHILE ADVOCATING FOR ENVIRONMENT JUSTICE.
OUR
ENVIRONMENT JUSTICE. OUR COMMITTEES OF THE FIRST
MOST
OUR COMMITTEES OF THE FIRST MOST IMPACTED BY THE STORM,
FIRES,
MOST IMPACTED BY THE STORM, FIRES, FLOODS AND DROUGHTS, AND
DISPROPORTIONATELY
FIRES, FLOODS AND DROUGHTS, AND DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDENED BY
THE
DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDENED BY THE POLLUTION, PART POVERTY AND
SYSTEMIC
THE POLLUTION, PART POVERTY AND SYSTEMIC VIOLENCE ASSOCIATED
WITH
SYSTEMIC VIOLENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MULTINATIONAL
CORPORATIONS
WITH THE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS DRIVING THIS THESE
ECOLOGICAL
CORPORATIONS DRIVING THIS THESE ECOLOGICAL CRISES.
LEGO
ECOLOGICAL CRISES. LEGO IS THE MOST RECENT
EXAMPLE,
LEGO IS THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE, PEOPLE LEFT TO FEND
FOR
EXAMPLE, PEOPLE LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES AFTER YEARS OF
COLONIALISM,
FOR THEMSELVES AFTER YEARS OF COLONIALISM, AND NEGLECT.
HARKIN
COLONIALISM, AND NEGLECT. HARKIN MARIA, HURRICANE MARIA
AND
HARKIN MARIA, HURRICANE MARIA AND ARMAH, CREATED AN
OPPORTUNITY
AND ARMAH, CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISASTER
CAPITALISM.
AND
CAPITALISM. AND ECONOMIC DEVASTATION.
THE
AND ECONOMIC DEVASTATION. THE SAME THING TO PLACE IN THE
GULF
THE SAME THING TO PLACE IN THE GULF SOUTH, FOR BLACK IN
INDIGENOUS
GULF SOUTH, FOR BLACK IN INDIGENOUS COMMITTEES AFTER
HURRICANE
INDIGENOUS COMMITTEES AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA.
CLIMATE
HURRICANE KATRINA. CLIMATE CHANGE SOLUTIONS MUST
HONOR
CLIMATE CHANGE SOLUTIONS MUST HONOR HUMAN RIGHTS, AND RESPECT
FRONT-LINE
HONOR HUMAN RIGHTS, AND RESPECT FRONT-LINE LEADERSHIPS.
ELSEWHERE
FRONT-LINE LEADERSHIPS. ELSEWHERE THE EXTRACTED ECONOMY
CONTINUES
ELSEWHERE THE EXTRACTED ECONOMY CONTINUES TO HARM ENTIRE
COMMITTEES
CONTINUES TO HARM ENTIRE COMMITTEES SUCH AS URANIUM
MINING
COMMITTEES SUCH AS URANIUM MINING IN NEW MEXICO WHICH
AFFECTS
MINING IN NEW MEXICO WHICH AFFECTS OVER 60 INDIGENOUS
NATIONS.
IT
NATIONS. IT WAS DECLARED A NATIONAL
SACRIFICE
IT WAS DECLARED A NATIONAL SACRIFICE ZONE IN THE FEDERAL
ENERGY
SACRIFICE ZONE IN THE FEDERAL ENERGY POLICY OF THE 1970S.
THIS
ENERGY POLICY OF THE 1970S. THIS MEANS THE ENVIRONMENT
SAFEGUARDS
THIS MEANS THE ENVIRONMENT SAFEGUARDS WERE NOT ENFORCED,
THUS
SAFEGUARDS WERE NOT ENFORCED, THUS ENDANGERING HUMAN LIFE.
DRINKING
THUS ENDANGERING HUMAN LIFE. DRINKING WATER TAINTED WITH
URANIUM
DRINKING WATER TAINTED WITH URANIUM AND ARSENIC AND THERE'S
A
URANIUM AND ARSENIC AND THERE'S A HIGH RATE OF CANCER, HEART
DISEASE
A HIGH RATE OF CANCER, HEART DISEASE AND LUNG DISEASE.
URANIUM
DISEASE AND LUNG DISEASE. URANIUM MINING IS A KEY ELEMENT
OF
URANIUM MINING IS A KEY ELEMENT OF NUCLEAR ENERGY WHICH IS
CONSIDERED
OF NUCLEAR ENERGY WHICH IS CONSIDERED RENEWABLE ENERGY,
AND
CONSIDERED RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND MOST FEDERAL ENERGY OR
CLEAN
AND MOST FEDERAL ENERGY OR CLEAN ENERGY POLICY
INITIATIVES.
YOU
INITIATIVES. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO
NOT
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF LARGE-
SCALE
NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF LARGE- SCALE BIOMASS, MEGA-JAMS,
NUCLEAR
SCALE BIOMASS, MEGA-JAMS, NUCLEAR ENERGY OR ENERGY
DERIVED
NUCLEAR ENERGY OR ENERGY DERIVED FROM BURNING WASTE.
THERE
DERIVED FROM BURNING WASTE. THERE DEVELOPED IN OUR
BACKYARDS,
THERE DEVELOPED IN OUR BACKYARDS, WHERE WE LIVE, WORK,
PLAY
BACKYARDS, WHERE WE LIVE, WORK, PLAY AND PRAY AND THEY DO NOT
REDUCE
PLAY AND PRAY AND THEY DO NOT REDUCE THE EMISSIONS OF
RESOURCE
REDUCE THE EMISSIONS OF RESOURCE EXTRACTION, ONLY
PROLONGING
RESOURCE EXTRACTION, ONLY PROLONGING ANY RESOLUTION FOR
CLIMATE
PROLONGING ANY RESOLUTION FOR CLIMATE CRISIS.
TO
CLIMATE CRISIS. TO EFFECTIVELY TACKLE CLIMATE
CHANGE
TO EFFECTIVELY TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE YOU MUST INVEST IN A
JUST
CHANGE YOU MUST INVEST IN A JUST TRANSITION.
IT
JUST TRANSITION. IT WOULD NOT BE SMOOTH BUT IT
MUST
IT WOULD NOT BE SMOOTH BUT IT MUST BE JUST LEAVING NO WORKER
OR
MUST BE JUST LEAVING NO WORKER OR COMMUNITY BEHIND.
FRONT-LINE
OR COMMUNITY BEHIND. FRONT-LINE COMMUNITIES AND
ECONOMIC
FRONT-LINE COMMUNITIES AND ECONOMIC FRAMEWORK THAT MOVES
US
ECONOMIC FRAMEWORK THAT MOVES US AWAY FROM EXTRACTION MUST BE
AT
US AWAY FROM EXTRACTION MUST BE AT THE CENTER OF ANY EFFORT TO
ADDRESS
AT THE CENTER OF ANY EFFORT TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.
ALL
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY THERE
ARE
ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF FRONT-LINE
COMMUNITIES
ARE EXAMPLES OF FRONT-LINE COMMUNITIES DEVELOPING PROJECTS
THAT
COMMUNITIES DEVELOPING PROJECTS THAT ENGAGE IN INNOVATIVE
INFRASTRUCTURE,
THAT ENGAGE IN INNOVATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND CREATE JOBS.
SUMMER
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND CREATE JOBS. SUMMER IN THE EARLY STAGES
WHILE
SUMMER IN THE EARLY STAGES WHILE OTHERS ARE READY TO BE
SCALED
WHILE OTHERS ARE READY TO BE SCALED UP AND REPLICATED.
THEY
SCALED UP AND REPLICATED. THEY WILL BENEFIT MORE PEOPLE,
AND
THEY WILL BENEFIT MORE PEOPLE, AND COMMUNITIES, OF THE
POLITICAL
AND COMMUNITIES, OF THE POLITICAL WILL, PUBLIC
INVESTMENT,
POLITICAL WILL, PUBLIC INVESTMENT, AND INCENTIVES TO
DO
INVESTMENT, AND INCENTIVES TO DO SO.
FOSSIL
DO SO. FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY REFUSES
MILLION
FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY REFUSES MILLION AND SUBSIDIES, AND
IMAGINE
MILLION AND SUBSIDIES, AND IMAGINE WHAT COMMUNITIES
ALREADY
IMAGINE WHAT COMMUNITIES ALREADY FORGING WITH THE
ALLOCATIONS
ALREADY FORGING WITH THE ALLOCATIONS OF THESE SUBSIDIES.
MIGHT
ALLOCATIONS OF THESE SUBSIDIES. MIGHT ORGANIZATION RECENTLY
PARTNERED
MIGHT ORGANIZATION RECENTLY PARTNERED WITH THE NEW YORK
CITY
PARTNERED WITH THE NEW YORK CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION
CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SO WE WANT TO
CREATE
CORPORATION SO WE WANT TO CREATE THE FIRST COMMUNITY
OWNED
CREATE THE FIRST COMMUNITY OWNED A SOLO CORPORATIVE IN THE
STATE
OWNED A SOLO CORPORATIVE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ON
STATE OF NEW YORK. ON A LARGER SCALE WE ADVOCATE
FOR
ON A LARGER SCALE WE ADVOCATE FOR TURNING AREAS OF THE
INDUSTRIAL
FOR TURNING AREAS OF THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR INTO ECONOMIC
ENGINE
INDUSTRIAL SECTOR INTO ECONOMIC ENGINE ABLE TO BUILD FOR THE
CLIMATE
ENGINE ABLE TO BUILD FOR THE CLIMATE AND ADAPTATION FUTURE.
IT
CLIMATE AND ADAPTATION FUTURE. IT CAN DELIVER POWER TO PLACES,
BUT
IT CAN DELIVER POWER TO PLACES, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, IT
WOULD
BUT JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, IT WOULD POSITION THE CITY AT THE
CENTER
WOULD POSITION THE CITY AT THE CENTER OF THIS EMERGING
INDUSTRY
CENTER OF THIS EMERGING INDUSTRY DRIVING LOCAL ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
FOR
DEVELOPMENT. FOR YEARS AND ANOTHER PART OF
THE
FOR YEARS AND ANOTHER PART OF THE COUNTRY, THE RESIDENTS OF
HIGHLAND
THE COUNTRY, THE RESIDENTS OF HIGHLAND PARK, MICHIGAN,
SUFFERED
HIGHLAND PARK, MICHIGAN, SUFFERED HIGH ENERGY COSTS AND
BLACKOUTS
SUFFERED HIGH ENERGY COSTS AND BLACKOUTS ALONG WITH MASSIVE
FLOODING.
WHEN
FLOODING. WHEN THEY WERE IN A FINANCIAL
CRISIS,
WHEN THEY WERE IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS, LOCAL ENERGY COMPANY
REPOSSESSED
CRISIS, LOCAL ENERGY COMPANY REPOSSESSED THOUSAND
STREETLIGHTS,
REPOSSESSED THOUSAND STREETLIGHTS, LEAVING THE
RESIDENCE
STREETLIGHTS, LEAVING THE RESIDENCE OF THE DARK.
DAIRY,
RESIDENCE OF THE DARK. DAIRY, A LOCAL ENVIRONMENT
JUSTICE
DAIRY, A LOCAL ENVIRONMENT JUSTICE GROUP STEPPED IN AND
DESIGNED
JUSTICE GROUP STEPPED IN AND DESIGNED A SYSTEM FOR
INSTALLING
DESIGNED A SYSTEM FOR INSTALLING SOLAR POWER LIGHTS.
SOLIDARITY
INSTALLING SOLAR POWER LIGHTS. SOLIDARITY CREATED A PURCHASING
PROGRAM
SOLIDARITY CREATED A PURCHASING PROGRAM THAT IS TRAINING
RESIDENTS
PROGRAM THAT IS TRAINING RESIDENTS AND SO INSULATION AND
WEATHERIZATION,
RESIDENTS AND SO INSULATION AND WEATHERIZATION, READYING THEM
TO
WEATHERIZATION, READYING THEM TO STEP INTO CLEAN ENERGY JOBS.
THEY
TO STEP INTO CLEAN ENERGY JOBS. THEY ARE USING EDUCATION AND
ORGANIZING
THEY ARE USING EDUCATION AND ORGANIZING TO LITERALLY MAKE
LIGHT
ORGANIZING TO LITERALLY MAKE LIGHT OF THE DARK, DARK
SITUATION.
FOR
SITUATION. FOR MY COMMUNITIES AND KNOW
WHAT
FOR MY COMMUNITIES AND KNOW WHAT IS AT STAKE.
THE
WHAT IS AT STAKE. THE QUESTION IS, WILL
LEGISLATION
THE QUESTION IS, WILL LEGISLATION EIGHT OUR
COMMUNITIES,
LEGISLATION EIGHT OUR COMMUNITIES, FUTURE SURVIVAL OR
HINDER
COMMUNITIES, FUTURE SURVIVAL OR HINDER IT?
I
HINDER IT? I HOPE FOR ALL OF OUR SAKES
WILL
I HOPE FOR ALL OF OUR SAKES WILL BE THE FORMER.
THE
WILL BE THE FORMER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THERE
ARE
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THERE ARE NO SACRIFICE ZONES AND THEY
HAVE
ARE NO SACRIFICE ZONES AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR TOO MANY YEARS.
>>
HAVE BEEN FOR TOO MANY YEARS. >> I THINK THE CHAIRMAN FOR
ALLOWING
>> I THINK THE CHAIRMAN FOR ALLOWING ME TO CONTRIBUTE TO
THIS
ALLOWING ME TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION
ABOUT
THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR NATION'S FUTURE.
MY
ABOUT OUR NATION'S FUTURE. MY MESSAGE TODAY IS SIMPLE.
THE
MY MESSAGE TODAY IS SIMPLE. THE DATA AND THE SCIENCE COULD
NOT
THE DATA AND THE SCIENCE COULD NOT BE MORE CLEAR, IT'S TIME TO
ACT.
THERE
ACT. THERE ARE MANY NO REGRETS AND
WIN-WIN
THERE ARE MANY NO REGRETS AND WIN-WIN ACTIONS TO REDUCE THE
COST
WIN-WIN ACTIONS TO REDUCE THE COST OF CLIMATE CHANGE BUT WE
ARE
COST OF CLIMATE CHANGE BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME
TOGETHER
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO FORM NEW ALLIANCES
IN
TOGETHER TO FORM NEW ALLIANCES IN OUR HOME COMMUNITIES ACROSS
OUR
IN OUR HOME COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR STATE, AND YES, EVEN IN
WASHINGTON.
I
WASHINGTON. I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THOUSANDS OF
MY
I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THOUSANDS OF MY COLLEAGUES WHEN I SAY THAT
SCIENTISTS
MY COLLEAGUES WHEN I SAY THAT SCIENTISTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY
ARE
SCIENTISTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE WILLING AND EAGER TO ASSIST
POLICYMAKERS
ARE WILLING AND EAGER TO ASSIST POLICYMAKERS IN THE DESIGN OF
DATA-DRIVEN
POLICYMAKERS IN THE DESIGN OF DATA-DRIVEN DEFENSES AGAINST
BOTH
DATA-DRIVEN DEFENSES AGAINST BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE CLIMATE
CHANGE
BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS.
AS
CHANGE IMPACTS. AS A PROFESSOR AT THE GEORGIA
INSTITUTE
AS A PROFESSOR AT THE GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY THE
LAST
INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY THE LAST 15 YEARS, MY RESEARCH USES
SAMPLES
LAST 15 YEARS, MY RESEARCH USES SAMPLES QUOTED FROM THE REMOTE
PACIFIC,
SAMPLES QUOTED FROM THE REMOTE PACIFIC, TO RECONSTRUCT PAST
CLIMATE
PACIFIC, TO RECONSTRUCT PAST CLIMATE VARIATIONS.
OUR
CLIMATE VARIATIONS. OUR RECORDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH
COUNTLESS
OUR RECORDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH COUNTLESS OTHER RECORDS,
INDICATING
COUNTLESS OTHER RECORDS, INDICATING THAT THE RATE AND
MAGNITUDE
INDICATING THAT THE RATE AND MAGNITUDE OF RECENT CLIMATE
CHANGE,
MAGNITUDE OF RECENT CLIMATE CHANGE, OVER THE LAST
MILLENNIUM.
I
MILLENNIUM. I LOVE MY WORK.
BUT
I LOVE MY WORK. BUT THREE YEARS AGO I WITNESSED
SOMETHING
BUT THREE YEARS AGO I WITNESSED SOMETHING THAT WOULD CHANGE MY
LIFE
SOMETHING THAT WOULD CHANGE MY LIFE FOREVER.
IN
LIFE FOREVER. IN 2015 WE RECEIVED FUNDING
FROM
IN 2015 WE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE NATIONAL SCIENCE
FOUNDATION
FROM THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION FOR A SERIES OF
FIELD
FOUNDATION FOR A SERIES OF FIELD EXPEDITIONS TO DOCUMENT
THE
FIELD EXPEDITIONS TO DOCUMENT THE EVOLUTION OF THE STRONG OF
THE
THE EVOLUTION OF THE STRONG OF THE NEW EVENT PROJECT DID THAT
WINTER.
I
WINTER. I WAITED 15 YEARS SINCE
OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER,
OPPORTUNITY. HOWEVER, LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT
WARMING
HOWEVER, LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT WARMING OCEAN TEMPERATURES, 60F
MORE
WARMING OCEAN TEMPERATURES, 60F MORE THAN AVERAGE WOULD KILL UP
TO
MORE THAN AVERAGE WOULD KILL UP TO 90% OF THE CORAL AT OUR
STUDY
TO 90% OF THE CORAL AT OUR STUDY SITE.
AND
STUDY SITE. AND I HAD A FRONT LOAD OR FRONT
ROW
AND I HAD A FRONT LOAD OR FRONT ROW SEAT THAT CARNAGE.
26
ROW SEAT THAT CARNAGE. 26 HE WOULD GO ON TO BECOME THE
WORST
26 HE WOULD GO ON TO BECOME THE WORST GLOBAL SCALE BLEACHING
MENTALITY
WORST GLOBAL SCALE BLEACHING MENTALITY EVENT ON RECORD AND
WARMEST
MENTALITY EVENT ON RECORD AND WARMEST YEAR ON OUR PLANET
SINCE
WARMEST YEAR ON OUR PLANET SINCE RECORDS BEGAN.
PERSONALLY,
SINCE RECORDS BEGAN. PERSONALLY, 2016 WAS MY WAKE-UP
CALL.
UNFORTUNATELY
CALL. UNFORTUNATELY THE LAST YEARS
BROUGHT
UNFORTUNATELY THE LAST YEARS BROUGHT A NUMBER OF DOSING WAKE-
UP
BROUGHT A NUMBER OF DOSING WAKE- UP CALLS MUCH CLOSER TO HOME.
HURRICANES
UP CALLS MUCH CLOSER TO HOME. HURRICANES HARVEY, LANE, AND
FLORENCE
HURRICANES HARVEY, LANE, AND FLORENCE DECIMATED ANTI-
COMMUNITIES
FLORENCE DECIMATED ANTI- COMMUNITIES WITH RECORD-
BREAKING
COMMUNITIES WITH RECORD- BREAKING RAINFALL WITH
HURRICANES
BREAKING RAINFALL WITH HURRICANES MARIA, AND MICHAEL,
DECIMATED
>>
DECIMATED >> BEYOND THESE DEADLY STREAMS,
A
>> BEYOND THESE DEADLY STREAMS, A HOST OF ADDITIONAL CLIMATE
CHANGE
A HOST OF ADDITIONAL CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS REPRESENT A
GROWING
CHANGE IMPACTS REPRESENT A GROWING THREAT TO COMMUNITIES
AND
GROWING THREAT TO COMMUNITIES AND ECOSYSTEMS ALIKE SEA LEVELS
ARE
AND ECOSYSTEMS ALIKE SEA LEVELS ARE RISING WITH UP TO SIX FEET
OF
ARE RISING WITH UP TO SIX FEET OF GLOBAL SEE RIGHTS PROTECTED
THIS
OF GLOBAL SEE RIGHTS PROTECTED THIS CENTURY.
THIS
THIS CENTURY. THIS THREATENS WATER SUPPLIES
ACROSS
THIS THREATENS WATER SUPPLIES ACROSS THE U.S. WITH NO END IN
SIGHT.
THE
SIGHT. THE OCEANS ARE BECOMING MORE
ACIDIC.
AS
ACIDIC. AS OF TODAY, 2018 WILL
OFFICIALLY
AS OF TODAY, 2018 WILL OFFICIALLY TAKE ITS PLACE AS
THE
OFFICIALLY TAKE ITS PLACE AS THE FOURTH YEAR ON RECORD
BEHIND
THE FOURTH YEAR ON RECORD BEHIND 2016, 17 AND 15.
CLIMATE
BEHIND 2016, 17 AND 15. CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS ARE NOW
DETECTABLE
CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS ARE NOW DETECTABLE ALL ACROSS AMERICA
AND
DETECTABLE ALL ACROSS AMERICA AND THEY WILL GET WORSE.
THAT
AND THEY WILL GET WORSE. THAT IS THE BAD NEWS.
I'M
THAT IS THE BAD NEWS. I'M SURE YOU'RE READY FOR SOME
GOOD
I'M SURE YOU'RE READY FOR SOME GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS PLENTY
TO
GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS PLENTY TO GO AROUND.
THE
TO GO AROUND. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SCIENCE
CAN
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SCIENCE CAN HELP AND FOR MEASURES TO
PROTECT
CAN HELP AND FOR MEASURES TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS
OUR
PROTECT COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS OUR OCEANS, WATERWAYS AND
WILDLIFE
OUR OCEANS, WATERWAYS AND WILDLIFE FROM THE MOST
DEVASTATING
WILDLIFE FROM THE MOST DEVASTATING IMPACTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE.
EARLY
CHANGE. EARLY ACTION IS ESSENTIAL TO
SUCCESS
EARLY ACTION IS ESSENTIAL TO SUCCESS OF THESE APPROACHES
DELIVERING
SUCCESS OF THESE APPROACHES DELIVERING VAST RETURNS ON
INVESTMENT.
MANY
INVESTMENT. MANY JURISDICTIONS FROM LOCAL
TO
MANY JURISDICTIONS FROM LOCAL TO THE FEDERAL HAVE DEVELOPED A
SUITE
TO THE FEDERAL HAVE DEVELOPED A SUITE OF CLIMATE ADAPTATION
MEASURES
SUITE OF CLIMATE ADAPTATION MEASURES INFORMED BY RIGOROUS
SCIENCE,
MEASURES INFORMED BY RIGOROUS SCIENCE, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT
AND
SCIENCE, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT
WE
AND COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WE MUST ACCELERATE THESE
EFFORTS.
THE
EFFORTS. THE NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT
PROVIDES
THE NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT PROVIDES AN BLUEPRINT FOR SUCH
ADOPTED
PROVIDES AN BLUEPRINT FOR SUCH ADOPTED MEASURES INCLUDING IN-
DEPTH
ADOPTED MEASURES INCLUDING IN- DEPTH ASSESSMENT ON ECOSYSTEM
FUNCTIONS
DEPTH ASSESSMENT ON ECOSYSTEM FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES.
IT
FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES. IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO AVOID THE
MOST
IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO AVOID THE MOST DAMAGING IMPACTS OF FUTURE
CLIMATE
MOST DAMAGING IMPACTS OF FUTURE CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE
CLIMATE CHANGE. WE HAVE THE TOOLS.
WE
WE HAVE THE TOOLS. WE HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO
DRAMATICALLY
WE HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO DRAMATICALLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE
GAS
DRAMATICALLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND IN DOING SO,
WE
GAS EMISSIONS AND IN DOING SO, WE WILL ENJOY CLEANER WATER,
AIR
WE WILL ENJOY CLEANER WATER, AIR AND HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES.
THE
AIR AND HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES. THE RAPID EXPANSION OF
RENEWABLE
THE RAPID EXPANSION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY ACROSS THE
NATION
RENEWABLE ENERGY ACROSS THE NATION DEMONSTRATES A STRONG
APPETITE
NATION DEMONSTRATES A STRONG APPETITE FOR CARBON FREE CLEAN
POWER.
EVEN
POWER. EVEN SO, U.S. GREENHOUSE GASES
WERE
EVEN SO, U.S. GREENHOUSE GASES WERE UP 3% LAST YEAR.
THE
WERE UP 3% LAST YEAR. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE
RUNNING
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
COMPREHENSIVE
RUNNING OUT OF TIME. COMPREHENSIVE FEDERAL POLICIES
ARE
COMPREHENSIVE FEDERAL POLICIES ARE NEEDED TO SEE THE
TRANSITION
ARE NEEDED TO SEE THE TRANSITION TO LOW CARBON ENERGY
SOURCES.
TOP
SOURCES. TOP ON THE LIST MUST BE A PRICE
ON
TOP ON THE LIST MUST BE A PRICE ON CARBON TO REFLECT THE TRUE
COST
ON CARBON TO REFLECT THE TRUE COST OF CONTINUED FOSSIL FUEL
EMISSIONS
COST OF CONTINUED FOSSIL FUEL EMISSIONS AND TO INCENTIVIZE
CONSUMERS,
EMISSIONS AND TO INCENTIVIZE CONSUMERS, COMPANIES AND THE
MARKET
CONSUMERS, COMPANIES AND THE MARKET TO FIND THE CHEAPEST
MOST
MARKET TO FIND THE CHEAPEST MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS OF
REDUCING
MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS OF REDUCING EMISSIONS.
WITH
REDUCING EMISSIONS. WITH OR WITHOUT A PRICE ON
CARBON,
WITH OR WITHOUT A PRICE ON CARBON, INCREASED ENERGY
EFFICIENCY
CARBON, INCREASED ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS A WIN-WIN
STRATEGY
EFFICIENCY IS A WIN-WIN STRATEGY THAT CAN DELIVER
ENERGY
STRATEGY THAT CAN DELIVER ENERGY COST SAVINGS WHILE
REDUCING
ENERGY COST SAVINGS WHILE REDUCING HARMFUL AIR POLLUTION.
THERE
REDUCING HARMFUL AIR POLLUTION. THERE IS A STRONG CASE TO BE
MADE
THERE IS A STRONG CASE TO BE MADE THAT WE CAN EMPLOY OUR
BEST
MADE THAT WE CAN EMPLOY OUR BEST COASTAL MARSHES IN SERVICE
TO
BEST COASTAL MARSHES IN SERVICE TO NATIONAL CARBON. THIS MEANS
DESIGNING
TO NATIONAL CARBON. THIS MEANS DESIGNING STRATEGIES TO
SAFEGUARD
DESIGNING STRATEGIES TO SAFEGUARD THESE ENVIRONMENTS
WITH
SAFEGUARD THESE ENVIRONMENTS WITH THEIR RICH CARBON RESERVES
IN
WITH THEIR RICH CARBON RESERVES IN THE FACE OF CONTINUED
CLIMATE
IN THE FACE OF CONTINUED CLIMATE CHANGE.
AS
CLIMATE CHANGE. AS A CLIMATE SCIENTIST, I HAVE
TO
AS A CLIMATE SCIENTIST, I HAVE TO WONDER HOW BAD WILL IT HAVE
TO
TO WONDER HOW BAD WILL IT HAVE TO GET FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT
CLIMATE
TO GET FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE REPRESENTS A
CLEAR
CLIMATE CHANGE REPRESENTS A CLEAR AND PRESENT THREAT AND TO
ACT
CLEAR AND PRESENT THREAT AND TO ACT DECISIVELY TO PROTECT
OURSELVES.
I
OURSELVES. I AM HEARTENED BY RECENT POLLS
SHOWING
I AM HEARTENED BY RECENT POLLS SHOWING THAT NEARLY 3 IN FOUR
AMERICANS
SHOWING THAT NEARLY 3 IN FOUR AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
GLOBAL
AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND SUPPORT A
RANGE
GLOBAL WARMING AND SUPPORT A RANGE OF POLICY OPTIONS TO
SUPPORT
RANGE OF POLICY OPTIONS TO SUPPORT IT.
AS
SUPPORT IT. AS A MOTHER TO FOR YOUNG
CHILDREN,
AS A MOTHER TO FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, I AM INSPIRED BY THE
SEA
CHILDREN, I AM INSPIRED BY THE SEA OF YOUNG PEOPLE DEMANDING
THAT
SEA OF YOUNG PEOPLE DEMANDING THAT WE NOT SQUANDER THEIR
CHANCES
THAT WE NOT SQUANDER THEIR CHANCES FOR CLIMATE STABILITY.
I
CHANCES FOR CLIMATE STABILITY. I URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO
CAPITALIZE
I URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO CAPITALIZE ON THE VAST ROBES OF
CLIMATE
CAPITALIZE ON THE VAST ROBES OF CLIMATE SCIENCE FINDINGS BY
PROTECTING
CLIMATE SCIENCE FINDINGS BY PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL
RESOURCES
PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL RESOURCES AND THE COMMUNITIES
THAT
RESOURCES AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT DEPEND ON THEM FROM KNOWN
CLIMATE
THAT DEPEND ON THEM FROM KNOWN CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS AND
USING
CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS AND USING FEDERAL LANDS TO ADVANCE
CLIMATE
USING FEDERAL LANDS TO ADVANCE CLIMATE SOLUTIONS RATHER THAN
EXPANDING
CLIMATE SOLUTIONS RATHER THAN EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF THE
CLIMATE
EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM.
THANK
CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
>>
THANK YOU. >> AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY
>> AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY HERE
TODAY.
A
TODAY. A NO DOUBT DISCLOSURE
INFORMATION
A NO DOUBT DISCLOSURE INFORMATION ON OUR CDP PLATFORM
TOUCHES
INFORMATION ON OUR CDP PLATFORM TOUCHES ALL THE STATES
REPRESENTED
TOUCHES ALL THE STATES REPRESENTED ON THE COMMITTEE
THAT'S
REPRESENTED ON THE COMMITTEE THAT'S MY COMMITTEE AND I THANK
YOU
THAT'S MY COMMITTEE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THE
YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THE CARBON DISCLOSURE PROJECT
IS
THE CARBON DISCLOSURE PROJECT IS A NONPROFIT THAT OPERATES
FOR
IS A NONPROFIT THAT OPERATES FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
TODAY
FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. TODAY ROUGHLY 500 COMPANIES IN
THE
TODAY ROUGHLY 500 COMPANIES IN THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING 70%
OF
THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING 70% OF THE
AND THROUGH US AND THEIR QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE
INFORMATION
QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE INFORMATION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL
PERFORMANCE
INFORMATION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE AND THE IMPERATIVE
TODAY
PERFORMANCE AND THE IMPERATIVE TODAY PROCEEDS.
I
TODAY PROCEEDS. I STANDARDIZED ANNUAL
INFORMATION
I STANDARDIZED ANNUAL INFORMATION REQUEST IS SIGNED
OFF
INFORMATION REQUEST IS SIGNED OFF ON BY ROUGHLY 500 INVESTOR
ENTERPRISES
OFF ON BY ROUGHLY 500 INVESTOR ENTERPRISES WHO REPRESENT OVER
$94
ENTERPRISES WHO REPRESENT OVER $94 TRILLION IN COMMITTAL OF
ASSETS
$94 TRILLION IN COMMITTAL OF ASSETS AND MOST OF THE
FINANCIAL
ASSETS AND MOST OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES SECTOR OF
THE
FINANCIAL SERVICES SECTOR OF THE WORLD.
ARE
THE WORLD. ARE SIGNATORY USED DISCLOSURE
AS
ARE SIGNATORY USED DISCLOSURE AS A GAUGE ON CORPORATE
STRATEGIC
AS A GAUGE ON CORPORATE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGES AND
VULNERABILITIES
STRATEGIC ADVANTAGES AND VULNERABILITIES AND A REFERENCE
FOR
VULNERABILITIES AND A REFERENCE FOR MAKING INVESTMENT
DECISIONS.
IF
DECISIONS. IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH OUR DATA,
YOU
IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH OUR DATA, YOU WOULD FIND THERE ARE MORE
THAN
YOU WOULD FIND THERE ARE MORE THAN 15 YEARS OF EVIDENCE OF
THE
THAN 15 YEARS OF EVIDENCE OF THE DURABILITY, DESIRABILITY
AND
THE DURABILITY, DESIRABILITY AND NECESSITY OF REDUCING
GREENHOUSE
AND NECESSITY OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS TO
ADDRESS
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE
EXPRESSED
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE EXPRESSED VOLUNTARILY BY
COMPANIES
EXPRESSED VOLUNTARILY BY COMPANIES THEMSELVES, MANY OF
WHOM
COMPANIES THEMSELVES, MANY OF WHOM SHAREHOLDERS ARE PUBLIC
PENSION
WHOM SHAREHOLDERS ARE PUBLIC PENSION FUNDS AND THUS RELEVANT
TO
PENSION FUNDS AND THUS RELEVANT TO MUCH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>>
TO MUCH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> AS FOR ME, YOU HAVE MY FULL
RESUME
>> AS FOR ME, YOU HAVE MY FULL RESUME BUT DESPITE -- SUFFICE
TO
RESUME BUT DESPITE -- SUFFICE TO SAY, I HAVE SEEN THE CLIMATE
CHANGE
TO SAY, I HAVE SEEN THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE FROM 360 DEGREES
FROM
CHANGE ISSUE FROM 360 DEGREES FROM CARBON MARKETS WORKING
CLOSELY
FROM CARBON MARKETS WORKING CLOSELY WITH BOTH ECONOMISTS TO
HELP
CLOSELY WITH BOTH ECONOMISTS TO HELP AND DESIGN THE WORLD'S
FIRST
HELP AND DESIGN THE WORLD'S FIRST INTEGRATED -- TRADE, THE
PIONEERING
FIRST INTEGRATED -- TRADE, THE PIONEERING CHICAGO CLIMATE
EXCHANGE
PIONEERING CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE AND WITH COUSTEAU
BEING
EXCHANGE AND WITH COUSTEAU BEING THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH
AT
BEING THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH AT THE OVAL OFFICE TO DISCUSS
CLIMATE
AT THE OVAL OFFICE TO DISCUSS CLIMATE CHANGE.
PRESIDENT
CLIMATE CHANGE. PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED THE
UNITED
PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED THE UNITED STATES TO THE LANDMARK
FRAMEWORK
UNITED STATES TO THE LANDMARK FRAMEWORK CONVENTION -- TO
WHICH
FRAMEWORK CONVENTION -- TO WHICH THE UNITED STATES REMAINS
A
WHICH THE UNITED STATES REMAINS A SIGNATORY EVEN IF THE U.S.
HAS
A SIGNATORY EVEN IF THE U.S. HAS PULLED OUT OF THE POWER
AGREEMENT
HAS PULLED OUT OF THE POWER AGREEMENT AND WE NOW STAND
ALONE
AGREEMENT AND WE NOW STAND ALONE AMONG NATIONS OUTSIDE THE
GLOBAL
ALONE AMONG NATIONS OUTSIDE THE GLOBAL CONSENSUS AND ALSO
LIKELY
GLOBAL CONSENSUS AND ALSO LIKELY MISSING OUT ON
OPPORTUNITIES
LIKELY MISSING OUT ON OPPORTUNITIES TO USE COHERENT
POLICY,
OPPORTUNITIES TO USE COHERENT POLICY, STATE AND LOCAL, AND
FEDERAL
POLICY, STATE AND LOCAL, AND FEDERAL TO MAXIMIZE JOBS
CREATION
FEDERAL TO MAXIMIZE JOBS CREATION AND FUTURE PROOF --
IMPROVE
CREATION AND FUTURE PROOF -- IMPROVE OUR CRUMBLING
INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOMETIMES
INFRASTRUCTURE. SOMETIMES IT IS SAID THAT
AMERICAN
SOMETIMES IT IS SAID THAT AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE AFRAID
THAT
AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE AFRAID THAT STRONG POLICIES WILL HURT
BUSINESS.
ON
BUSINESS. ON THE CONTRARY, COMMITTEES ARE
QUITE
ON THE CONTRARY, COMMITTEES ARE QUITE CONCERNED WITH CLIMATE
CHANGE
QUITE CONCERNED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE ITSELF AND FOLLOWING, I
WILL
CHANGE ITSELF AND FOLLOWING, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU A FEW
EXAMPLES
WILL SHARE WITH YOU A FEW EXAMPLES FROM ALMOST ALL OF
YOUR
EXAMPLES FROM ALMOST ALL OF YOUR DISTRICTS AND STATES AND
PROBABLY
YOUR DISTRICTS AND STATES AND PROBABLY ALL.
I
PROBABLY ALL. I REFER YOU TO MY WRITTEN
TESTIMONY
I REFER YOU TO MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY AND OTHER WRITTEN
MATERIALS
TESTIMONY AND OTHER WRITTEN MATERIALS OF CDP FOR FURTHER
DETAILS.
AND
DETAILS. AND ARIZONA AND COLORADO, FOR
EXAMPLE,
AND ARIZONA AND COLORADO, FOR EXAMPLE, ARIZONA PUBLIC
SERVICES,
EXAMPLE, ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICES, EMPLOYEES ARE SERVING
1.2
SERVICES, EMPLOYEES ARE SERVING 1.2 MILLION CUSTOMERS HAS SAID,
--
1.2 MILLION CUSTOMERS HAS SAID, -- FOREST FIRES ARE NOT NEW BUT
SCIENTISTS
-- FOREST FIRES ARE NOT NEW BUT SCIENTISTS HAVE INDICATED THAT
AS
SCIENTISTS HAVE INDICATED THAT AS THE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE
INCREASE,
AS THE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE INCREASE, THERE IS A GREATER
RISK
INCREASE, THERE IS A GREATER RISK OF DROUGHT AND A CORRELATED
RISK
RISK OF DROUGHT AND A CORRELATED RISK OF FOREST FIRES.
THE
RISK OF FOREST FIRES. THE POTENTIAL THREAT IS VERY
REAL.
WE
REAL. WE HAVE HEARD VERY MUCH TODAY
ABOUT
WE HAVE HEARD VERY MUCH TODAY ABOUT THE BURDEN IN CALIFORNIA
NOT
ABOUT THE BURDEN IN CALIFORNIA NOT ONLY THE TREES, THE
DOWNGRADE
NOT ONLY THE TREES, THE DOWNGRADE OF MOST OF THE
UTILITIES
DOWNGRADE OF MOST OF THE UTILITIES IN CALIFORNIA AFFECTS
DIRECTLY
UTILITIES IN CALIFORNIA AFFECTS DIRECTLY AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THE
DIRECTLY AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE CREDIT RATING DOWNGRADE IS
VERY
THE CREDIT RATING DOWNGRADE IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, RATING
COMPANIES
VERY SIGNIFICANT, RATING COMPANIES FROM STABLE TO
NEGATIVE.
IN
NEGATIVE. IN CONNECTICUT, STANLEY BLACK
DECKER, THEY EMPLOY NEARLY 60,000 AMERICAN TESTED CLIMATE
CHANGE
60,000 AMERICAN TESTED CLIMATE CHANGE CAN HAVE POTENTIALLY
DEVASTATING
CHANGE CAN HAVE POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING IMPACTS ON OUR
SUPPLY
DEVASTATING IMPACTS ON OUR SUPPLY CHAIN TO DROUGHT OR
FLOOD.
IN
FLOOD. IN OHIO, AMERICAN ELECTRIC
POWER
IN OHIO, AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER WHICH IS 17,500 EMPLOYEES
AND
POWER WHICH IS 17,500 EMPLOYEES AND 5 MILLION CUSTOMERS ACROSS
11
AND 5 MILLION CUSTOMERS ACROSS 11 STATES INCLUDING TEXAS,
LOUISIANA,
11 STATES INCLUDING TEXAS, LOUISIANA, AND KENTUCKY AND
WEST
LOUISIANA, AND KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA, AND THEIR SEC
FILING,
WEST VIRGINIA, AND THEIR SEC FILING, THEY HAVE SAID CLIMATE
CHANGE
FILING, THEY HAVE SAID CLIMATE CHANGE RISK IS CONSIDERED A
MAJOR
CHANGE RISK IS CONSIDERED A MAJOR MATERIAL ISSUE FOR AEP.
ON
MAJOR MATERIAL ISSUE FOR AEP. ON THE ISSUE OF REGULATORY
UNCERTAINTY,
ON THE ISSUE OF REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY, AEP IS ON THE
RECORD
UNCERTAINTY, AEP IS ON THE RECORD OF SAINT ADDITIONALLY IN
RECENT
RECORD OF SAINT ADDITIONALLY IN RECENT YEARS, LEGAL CHALLENGES
TO
RECENT YEARS, LEGAL CHALLENGES TO ALMOST EVERY MAJOR EPA
RULEMAKING
TO ALMOST EVERY MAJOR EPA RULEMAKING HAVE ADDED
ADDITIONAL
RULEMAKING HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL UNCERTAINTY AND COST
WHILE
ADDITIONAL UNCERTAINTY AND COST WHILE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS
MENTIONED
WHILE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS MENTIONED WILL HAVE A LARGE
IMPACT
MENTIONED WILL HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON OUR OPERATION.
THE
IMPACT ON OUR OPERATION. THE UNCERTAINTY REGARDING
CLIMATE
THE UNCERTAINTY REGARDING CLIMATE CHANGE REGULATION OR
LEGISLATION
CLIMATE CHANGE REGULATION OR LEGISLATION IS A MORE
CHALLENGING
LEGISLATION IS A MORE CHALLENGING RISK TO MANAGE.
IN
CHALLENGING RISK TO MANAGE. IN TEXAS, COMPANIES SUCH AS
CHEVRON,
IN TEXAS, COMPANIES SUCH AS CHEVRON, DuPONT HAVE DESCRIBED
RISKS
CHEVRON, DuPONT HAVE DESCRIBED RISKS AND THEIR DISCLOSURE
PERTINENT
RISKS AND THEIR DISCLOSURE PERTINENT TO THE NEED FOR STORM
BARRIER
PERTINENT TO THE NEED FOR STORM BARRIER PROTECTION.
FLORIDA,
BARRIER PROTECTION. FLORIDA, HARRIS CORPORATION,
HAS
FLORIDA, HARRIS CORPORATION, HAS 70,000 EMPLOYEES IS WORRIED
THAT
HAS 70,000 EMPLOYEES IS WORRIED THAT THEIR DATA CENTERS WILL BE
AFFECTED
THAT THEIR DATA CENTERS WILL BE AFFECTED AS TEMPERATURES RISE
AND
AFFECTED AS TEMPERATURES RISE AND THEY LOSE QUOTE AMBIENT
COOLING
AND THEY LOSE QUOTE AMBIENT COOLING POTENTIAL.
ON
COOLING POTENTIAL. ON THE SUPPLY-CHAIN FRONT,
JOHNSON
JERSEY WITH 134 EMPLOYEES -- 134,000 GLOBAL EMPLOYEES ARE
WORRIED
134,000 GLOBAL EMPLOYEES ARE WORRIED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE,
EXTREME
WORRIED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, EXTREME WEATHER DISRUPTING NOT
ONLY
EXTREME WEATHER DISRUPTING NOT ONLY DEMAND FOR PRODUCTS BUT
DISRUPTIONS
ONLY DEMAND FOR PRODUCTS BUT DISRUPTIONS IN MANUFACTURING
AND
DISRUPTIONS IN MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS,
AFRAID
AND DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS, AFRAID THAT IT WILL AFFECT THE
OVERALL
AFRAID THAT IT WILL AFFECT THE OVERALL DESIGN AND INTEGRITY OF
OUR
OVERALL DESIGN AND INTEGRITY OF OUR PRODUCTS AND OPERATIONS.
ATLANTA,
OUR PRODUCTS AND OPERATIONS. ATLANTA, COCA-COLA, 90,000
COMPANIES
ATLANTA, COCA-COLA, 90,000 COMPANIES WORRIED ABOUT
AGRICULTURAL
COMPANIES WORRIED ABOUT AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS INCLUDING
SUGARCANE,
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS INCLUDING SUGARCANE, CORN, AND CITRUS.
COCA-COLA
SUGARCANE, CORN, AND CITRUS. COCA-COLA HAS SAID THE
AFFORDABILITY
COCA-COLA HAS SAID THE AFFORDABILITY OF OUR PRODUCTS
AND
AFFORDABILITY OF OUR PRODUCTS AND ULTIMATELY OUR BUSINESS
COULD
AND ULTIMATELY OUR BUSINESS COULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
IN
COULD BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. IN NEVADA, EVEN CAESAR'S PALACE
IS
IN NEVADA, EVEN CAESAR'S PALACE IS NOT IMMUNE FROM CLIMATE
CHANGE.
IT'S
CHANGE. IT'S PARENT HAS SAID THEY ARE
VIRTUALLY
IT'S PARENT HAS SAID THEY ARE VIRTUALLY CERTAIN TO SEE SHORT-
TERM
VIRTUALLY CERTAIN TO SEE SHORT- TERM INCREASE IN COST DUE TO A
SHORTAGE
TERM INCREASE IN COST DUE TO A SHORTAGE OF PRECIPITATION.
EVEN
SHORTAGE OF PRECIPITATION. EVEN BEFORE THE PARIS
AGREEMENT,
EVEN BEFORE THE PARIS AGREEMENT, WE WERE GETTING
RISKS
AGREEMENT, WE WERE GETTING RISKS ON SUPPLY-CHAIN.
IT
RISKS ON SUPPLY-CHAIN. IT WASN'T FROM SOUP TO NUTS, IT
IS
IT WASN'T FROM SOUP TO NUTS, IT IS TO TO TOMATOES.
CAMPBELL'S
IS TO TO TOMATOES. CAMPBELL'S SOUP CITED WATER IS
VERY
CAMPBELL'S SOUP CITED WATER IS VERY SIGNIFICANT AND OF CONCERN
AND
VERY SIGNIFICANT AND OF CONCERN AND CONAGRA HAS SAID QUOTE THEY
HAVE
AND CONAGRA HAS SAID QUOTE THEY HAVE SEEN DELAYED TOMATO
HARVESTING
HAVE SEEN DELAYED TOMATO HARVESTING DUE TO UNSEASONABLY
COOL
HARVESTING DUE TO UNSEASONABLY COOL WEATHER.
DR
COOL WEATHER. DR PEPPER OF COURSE IS WORRIED
ABOUT
DR PEPPER OF COURSE IS WORRIED ABOUT WATER.
IT
ABOUT WATER. IT IS ONE OF THEIR MAIN
INGREDIENTS
IT IS ONE OF THEIR MAIN INGREDIENTS AND HAS THAT A
PORTION
INGREDIENTS AND HAS THAT A PORTION OF OUR COST OF SALES
WERE
PORTION OF OUR COST OF SALES WERE $2.5 BILLION COULD BE AT
RISK
WERE $2.5 BILLION COULD BE AT RISK FOR INCREASED COST TO OUR
SUPPLY
RISK FOR INCREASED COST TO OUR SUPPLY CHAIN.
I
SUPPLY CHAIN. I COULD GO ON AND ON.
I
I COULD GO ON AND ON. I WILL NOT.
I
I WILL NOT. I KNOW MY TIME IS UP AND I WILL
BE
I KNOW MY TIME IS UP AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
THANK
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN.
>>
THANK YOU AGAIN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
>>
THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. >> THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN IT
GRIJALVA
>> THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN IT GRIJALVA AND THE ENTIRE
COMMITTEE
GRIJALVA AND THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY.
THANK
TODAY. THANK YOU TO THE OTHER
PANELISTS
THANK YOU TO THE OTHER PANELISTS FOR YOUR COMMITMENT
TO
PANELISTS FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO SOLVING CLIMATE CHANGE.
MY
TO SOLVING CLIMATE CHANGE. MY NAME IS REVEREND -- THE
PRESIDENT
MY NAME IS REVEREND -- THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CAUCUS AND
ALL
PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CAUCUS AND ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS
ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE INVITED TO BE A
PART
DEMOCRATS ARE INVITED TO BE A PART OF THE HIP-HOP CAUCUS, A
LITTLE
PART OF THE HIP-HOP CAUCUS, A LITTLE JOKE THERE TO START OFF
THE
LITTLE JOKE THERE TO START OFF THE TESTIMONY.
LET
THE TESTIMONY. LET ME GET RIGHT TO IT, AS
AMERICANS,
LET ME GET RIGHT TO IT, AS AMERICANS, WE FACE CHALLENGES
HEAD
AMERICANS, WE FACE CHALLENGES HEAD ON.
CLIMATE
HEAD ON. CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT A
DEMOCRAT
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT ISSUE OR A REPUBLICAN
ISSUE.
IT
ISSUE. IT IS A HUMAN ISSUE.
THIS
IT IS A HUMAN ISSUE. THIS CRISIS IS COMPLEX.
IT
THIS CRISIS IS COMPLEX. IT IMPACTS ALL OF US IN FUTURE
GENERATIONS
IT IMPACTS ALL OF US IN FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THOSE WITH THE
LEAST
GENERATIONS AND THOSE WITH THE LEAST RESOURCES ARE IMPACTED
FIRST
LEAST RESOURCES ARE IMPACTED FIRST AND WORST.
WE
FIRST AND WORST. WE KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THIS
CRISIS.
WE
CRISIS. WE MUST MAKE A JUST TRANSITION
OFF
WE MUST MAKE A JUST TRANSITION OFF OF FOSSIL FUELS TO A 100%
CLEAN,
OFF OF FOSSIL FUELS TO A 100% CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY ECONOMY
THAT
CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR ALL.
MANY
THAT WORKS FOR ALL. MANY COMMUNITIES, CITIES, AND
STATES
MANY COMMUNITIES, CITIES, AND STATES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY ARE
LEADING
STATES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY ARE LEADING THE WAY ON CLIMATES
SOLUTIONS.
I
SOLUTIONS. I URGE EVERY MEMBER OF THIS
COMMITTEE
I URGE EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE TO VISIT PLACES AND
PEOPLE
COMMITTEE TO VISIT PLACES AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH
CLIMATE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH CLIMATE DISASTERS AND VISIT
COMMUNITIES,
CLIMATE DISASTERS AND VISIT COMMUNITIES, PROJECTS AND
BUSINESSES
COMMUNITIES, PROJECTS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE
IMPLEMENTING
BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING CLEAN ENERGY AND
CLIMATE
IMPLEMENTING CLEAN ENERGY AND CLIMATE SOLUTIONS.
WHEN
CLIMATE SOLUTIONS. WHEN YOU VISIT THESE
COMMUNITIES,
WHEN YOU VISIT THESE COMMUNITIES, IT WILL BECOME A
VERY
COMMUNITIES, IT WILL BECOME A VERY CLEAR THAT CLIMATE CHANGE
IS
VERY CLEAR THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHT
ISSUES.
IN
ISSUES. IN 1960, FOUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COLLEGE
IN 1960, FOUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS SAT AT THE
WALLBOARD
COLLEGE STUDENTS SAT AT THE WALLBOARD LUNCH COUNTER IN
GREENSBORO
WALLBOARD LUNCH COUNTER IN GREENSBORO NORTH CAROLINA TO
DESEGREGATE
GREENSBORO NORTH CAROLINA TO DESEGREGATE THE SOUTH.
THEY
DESEGREGATE THE SOUTH. THEY WERE COURAGEOUS BEYOND
BELIEF
THEY WERE COURAGEOUS BEYOND BELIEF IN STANDING UP FOR
EQUALITY.
TODAY,
EQUALITY. TODAY, YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE NADIA
ACROSS
TODAY, YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE NADIA ACROSS THE TABLE FROM ME AND
ACROSS
ACROSS THE TABLE FROM ME AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE
COURAGEOUSLY
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE COURAGEOUSLY STANDING UP NOT
ONLY
COURAGEOUSLY STANDING UP NOT ONLY FOR EQUALITY BUT FOR OUR
EXISTENCE.
CLIMATE
EXISTENCE. CLIMATE CHANGE IS OUR LUNCH
COUNTER
CLIMATE CHANGE IS OUR LUNCH COUNTER MOMENT FOR THE 21st
CENTURY.
YOUNG
CENTURY. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ORGANIZING,
MARCHING,
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ORGANIZING, MARCHING, AND COALITION
BUILDING,
MARCHING, AND COALITION BUILDING, AND THEY ARE LEADING
THE
BUILDING, AND THEY ARE LEADING THE CALL FOR SOLUTIONS LIKE A
GREEN
THE CALL FOR SOLUTIONS LIKE A GREEN NEW DEAL.
THEY
GREEN NEW DEAL. THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY
KNOW
THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE SCIENCE ON
CLIMATE
KNOW THAT THE SCIENCE ON CLIMATE CHANGE IS UNDENIABLE.
BUT
CLIMATE CHANGE IS UNDENIABLE. BUT ALSO BECAUSE LIKE ALL OF US
HERE
BUT ALSO BECAUSE LIKE ALL OF US HERE TODAY, THEY HAVE WATCHED
AS
HERE TODAY, THEY HAVE WATCHED AS PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN
HURRICANE
AS PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN HURRICANE HARVEY, MARIA, OR
MAY,
HURRICANE HARVEY, MARIA, OR MAY, KATRINA, AND SUPER STORM
SANDY.
THEY
SANDY. THEY HAVE SEEN THE FAMILIES WHO
HAVE
THEY HAVE SEEN THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST EVERYTHING TO FIRES,
THAT
HAVE LOST EVERYTHING TO FIRES, THAT HAVE LIVED ACROSS THE
WEST.
THEY
WEST. THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF PEACEFUL
MOVEMENTS
THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF PEACEFUL MOVEMENTS LED BY PEOPLE IN THE
ARCTIC
MOVEMENTS LED BY PEOPLE IN THE ARCTIC REFUGE.
SO
ARCTIC REFUGE. SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU
AS
SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
GOING
AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE GOING TO DO?
IT
GOING TO DO? IT IS MY PRAYER THAT YOU CALL
UP
IT IS MY PRAYER THAT YOU CALL UP AT LEAST AS MUCH COURAGE AS
YOUNG
UP AT LEAST AS MUCH COURAGE AS YOUNG PEOPLE STANDING UP AROUND
THE
YOUNG PEOPLE STANDING UP AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THAT YOU ACT.
YOU
THE COUNTRY, AND THAT YOU ACT. YOU ACT NOW AND YOU ACT BOLDLY
AND
YOU ACT NOW AND YOU ACT BOLDLY AND COURAGEOUSLY.
IF
AND COURAGEOUSLY. IF THIS COMMITTEE AND BOTH
CHAMBERS
IF THIS COMMITTEE AND BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL
URGENTLY
CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL URGENTLY COME TOGETHER, PUT THE
PEOPLE
URGENTLY COME TOGETHER, PUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY FIRST,
PUT
PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY FIRST, PUT GOD FIRST, AND PUT YOUR
POLITICAL
PUT GOD FIRST, AND PUT YOUR POLITICAL PARTIES TO DECIDE TO
SOLVE
POLITICAL PARTIES TO DECIDE TO SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE, WE DON'T
MAKE
SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE, WE DON'T MAKE IT BEYOND 12 YEARS FROM
NOW
MAKE IT BEYOND 12 YEARS FROM NOW WITHOUT HUGE AMOUNTS OF
DEATH,
NOW WITHOUT HUGE AMOUNTS OF DEATH, DESTRUCTION, AND
SUFFERING.
AS
SUFFERING. AS AN OFFICER IN THE UNITED
STATES
AS AN OFFICER IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE, I
HAVE
STATES AIR FORCE RESERVE, I HAVE TO PONDER THE UNIQUE
RELATIONSHIP
HAVE TO PONDER THE UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MILITARY
AND
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MILITARY AND FAITH.
IN
AND FAITH. IN THE MILITARY, WE NEED OUR
FAITH
IN THE MILITARY, WE NEED OUR FAITH NOT ONLY TO STRENGTHEN US
IN
FAITH NOT ONLY TO STRENGTHEN US IN BATTLE BUT WE NEED OUR FAITH
TO
IN BATTLE BUT WE NEED OUR FAITH TO GUIDE US TO DO WHAT IS
RIGHT.
WE
RIGHT. WE NEED YOU TO USE YOUR FAITH
TO
WE NEED YOU TO USE YOUR FAITH TO GUIDE YOU TO DO WHAT IS
RIGHT.
IF
RIGHT. IF YOU ARE APPROACHING CLIMATE
CHANGE
IF YOU ARE APPROACHING CLIMATE CHANGE AS A PARTISAN POLITICAL
ISSUE,
CHANGE AS A PARTISAN POLITICAL ISSUE, YOUR FAITH IS LEADING
YOU
ISSUE, YOUR FAITH IS LEADING YOU ASTRAY.
WE
YOU ASTRAY. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED YOU
TO
WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED YOU TO HAVE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS
RIGHT.
IT
RIGHT. IT IS YOUR COURAGE, IT IS YOUR
COURAGE,
IT IS YOUR COURAGE, IT IS YOUR COURAGE, IT IS YOUR COURAGE
THAT
COURAGE, IT IS YOUR COURAGE THAT YOU PUT OUR COUNTRY AND
THE
THAT YOU PUT OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD ON THE PATH OF
SOLVING
THE WORLD ON THE PATH OF SOLVING CLIMATE CHANGE.
IN
SOLVING CLIMATE CHANGE. IN THE WORDS OF DOCTOR MARTIN
LUTHER
IN THE WORDS OF DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., WE MUST LEARN
TO
LUTHER KING JR., WE MUST LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER AS BROTHERS OR
PERISH
TO LIVE TOGETHER AS BROTHERS OR PERISH TOGETHER AS FOOLS.
THANK
PERISH TOGETHER AS FOOLS. THANK YOU AND MAY GOD BE WITH
YOU
THANK YOU AND MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND WITH US ALL.
>>
YOU AND WITH US ALL. >> MR. HOLLY, THE FLOOR IS
YOURS,
>> MR. HOLLY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
>>
YOURS, SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY
>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF REGENT
AMERICA,
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF REGENT AMERICA, THE ORGANIZATION I
ORGANIZED
AMERICA, THE ORGANIZATION I ORGANIZED TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN
THE
ORGANIZED TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
WE
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WE ARE FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS AND
WHAT
WE ARE FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS AND WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR A MORE
UNITED
WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR A MORE UNITED AMERICA.
ONE
UNITED AMERICA. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DO
THE
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DO THE MOST WORK ON IS ADDRESSING
AND
THE MOST WORK ON IS ADDRESSING AND REDUCING ENERGY POVERTY.
WHAT
AND REDUCING ENERGY POVERTY. WHAT IS ENERGY POVERTY?
IT
WHAT IS ENERGY POVERTY? IT EXISTS WHEN LOW INCOME
FAMILIES
IT EXISTS WHEN LOW INCOME FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS SPENT
UPWARDS
FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS SPENT UPWARDS OF 30% OF THEIR TOTAL
INCOME
UPWARDS OF 30% OF THEIR TOTAL INCOME ON THEIR ELECTRIC BILL.
WHEN
INCOME ON THEIR ELECTRIC BILL. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT PUTS
PEOPLE
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT PUTS PEOPLE IN TOUGH SITUATIONS AND
HAVING
PEOPLE IN TOUGH SITUATIONS AND HAVING TO MAKE TOUGH CHOICES
LIKE
HAVING TO MAKE TOUGH CHOICES LIKE DO I EAT TODAY OR DO I PAY
THE
LIKE DO I EAT TODAY OR DO I PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL?
DO
THE ELECTRIC BILL? DO I GET THIS PRESCRIPTION
FILLED
DO I GET THIS PRESCRIPTION FILLED OR DO I FILL UP MY GAS
TANK?
I
TANK? I CANNOT EVEN GIVE THE KIDS A
COUPLE
I CANNOT EVEN GIVE THE KIDS A COUPLE OF DOLLARS TODAY BECAUSE
I
COUPLE OF DOLLARS TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE TO PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL
AND
I HAVE TO PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL AND FOR MANY AMERICANS
PARTICULARLY
AND FOR MANY AMERICANS PARTICULARLY IN THE MINORITY
COMMUNITY,
PARTICULARLY IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, WE FACE THE
CHALLENGES
COMMUNITY, WE FACE THE CHALLENGES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THE
CHALLENGES EVERY SINGLE DAY. THE COMMUNITY, THE AFRICAN-
AMERICAN
THE COMMUNITY, THE AFRICAN- AMERICAN COMMUNITY, WE DO NOT
HAVE
AMERICAN COMMUNITY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY TO PAY MORE FOR
GREEN
HAVE THE LUXURY TO PAY MORE FOR GREEN TECHNOLOGIES.
WE
GREEN TECHNOLOGIES. WE NEED ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE
ENERGY,
WE NEED ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE ENERGY, HELP HEAT OUR HOMES AND
POWER
ENERGY, HELP HEAT OUR HOMES AND POWER OUR STOVES AND GET BACK
AND
POWER OUR STOVES AND GET BACK AND FORTH TO WORK.
I
AND FORTH TO WORK. I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REACH
I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH AND TALK TO THOUSANDS OF
AFRICAN-AMERICANS
REACH AND TALK TO THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO ALL TALK
ABOUT
AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO ALL TALK ABOUT ONE THING, A QUESTION OF
RISING
ABOUT ONE THING, A QUESTION OF RISING COST OF ENERGY ALONG
WITH
RISING COST OF ENERGY ALONG WITH THE FEES AND SUBSIDIES
THAT
WITH THE FEES AND SUBSIDIES THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY IF THEY
DO
THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY IF THEY DO NOT BENEFIT FROM THEM.
AND
DO NOT BENEFIT FROM THEM. AND HOW THEY STRUGGLE TO KEEP
UP
AND HOW THEY STRUGGLE TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
NOW
UP WITH IT. NOW MY PASSION FOR ENERGY IS
DEEPLY
NOW MY PASSION FOR ENERGY IS DEEPLY ROOTED.
WHEN
DEEPLY ROOTED. WHEN I FIRST GRADUATED FROM
COLLEGE,
WHEN I FIRST GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, I WORKED FOR NORFORK
SOUTHERN
COLLEGE, I WORKED FOR NORFORK SOUTHERN RAILROAD.
I
SOUTHERN RAILROAD. I COULD SWITCH THE TRACKS AND
TIGHTEN
I COULD SWITCH THE TRACKS AND TIGHTEN UP THE BRAKES AND DO
EVERYTHING.
SO
EVERYTHING. SO I WORKED AT LAMPORT'S POINT
IN
SO I WORKED AT LAMPORT'S POINT IN NORFOLK VIRGINIA.
OUR
IN NORFOLK VIRGINIA. OUR JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY WAS
LOADING
OUR JOB AND RESPONSIBILITY WAS LOADING COAL SHIPS TO TRANSPORT
COAL
LOADING COAL SHIPS TO TRANSPORT COAL ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
SO
COAL ALL AROUND THE WORLD. SO I HAVE ALWAYS ASKED MYSELF
THE
SO I HAVE ALWAYS ASKED MYSELF THE QUESTION, IF OUR NATURAL
RESOURCE
THE QUESTION, IF OUR NATURAL RESOURCE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR
OTHER
RESOURCE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR OTHER COUNTRIES, WHY IS IT NOT
GOOD
OTHER COUNTRIES, WHY IS IT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US RIGHT HERE
AT
GOOD ENOUGH FOR US RIGHT HERE AT HOME?
IN
AT HOME? IN ADDITION TO THAT, MY
GRANDFATHER
IN ADDITION TO THAT, MY GRANDFATHER WAS A BLACK
COALMINER
GRANDFATHER WAS A BLACK COALMINER IN SOUTHWEST WEST
VIRGINIA.
IT
VIRGINIA. IT IS SAFE TO SAY IF IT WASN'T
FOR
IT IS SAFE TO SAY IF IT WASN'T FOR THE ENERGY INDUSTRY, I
WOULD
FOR THE ENERGY INDUSTRY, I WOULD NOT BE HERE TO TALK TO
YOU
WOULD NOT BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ALL TODAY.
>>
YOU ALL TODAY. >> WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CREATES
POLICIES,
>> WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CREATES POLICIES, IT'S FIRST PRIORITY
SHOULD
POLICIES, IT'S FIRST PRIORITY SHOULD BE THE WELFARE OF THE
PEOPLE
SHOULD BE THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THOSE
IMPACTED
PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THOSE IMPACTED THE HARDEST RATHER
THAN
IMPACTED THE HARDEST RATHER THAN BIG BUSINESS AND SPECIAL
INTEREST
THAN BIG BUSINESS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS LOOKING FOR A
HANDOUT.
I
HANDOUT. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF PROJECT
21,
I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF PROJECT 21, NATIONAL BLACK LEADERSHIP
ORGANIZATION.
IN
ORGANIZATION. IN OUR BLUEPRINTS FOR A BETTER
DEAL
IN OUR BLUEPRINTS FOR A BETTER DEAL FOR BLACK AMERICA, WE
FOCUS
DEAL FOR BLACK AMERICA, WE FOCUS ON 10 KEY AREAS FOR
REFORM
FOCUS ON 10 KEY AREAS FOR REFORM INCLUDING MINORITY
IMPACTED
REFORM INCLUDING MINORITY IMPACTED AREAS.
THIS
IMPACTED AREAS. THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP
TOWARDS
THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP TOWARDS INCREASING ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES
TOWARDS INCREASING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND HAVING INPUT
FROM
OPPORTUNITIES AND HAVING INPUT FROM GOVERNORS AND COMMUNITY
LEADERS
FROM GOVERNORS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS MUCH THE SAME WAY THAT
QUALIFY
LEADERS MUCH THE SAME WAY THAT QUALIFY OPPORTUNITY ZONES WERE
DEVELOPED,
QUALIFY OPPORTUNITY ZONES WERE DEVELOPED, WOULD CREATE A LEVEL
OF
DEVELOPED, WOULD CREATE A LEVEL OF TRUST AND COMMUNITIES THAT
NEVER
OF TRUST AND COMMUNITIES THAT NEVER EXISTED BEFORE.
AFTER
NEVER EXISTED BEFORE. AFTER ALL, THE GOVERNMENT
REQUIRES
AFTER ALL, THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES INVOLVEMENT IMPACT
STUDIES
REQUIRES INVOLVEMENT IMPACT STUDIES AND STATEMENTS OF
PROJECTS
STUDIES AND STATEMENTS OF PROJECTS LIKE ROADS AND
BUILDINGS,
PROJECTS LIKE ROADS AND BUILDINGS, SHOULD THE
GOVERNMENT
BUILDINGS, SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT ACT SIMILARLY WHEN
IT
GOVERNMENT ACT SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW REGULATIONS
IMPACT
IT COMES TO HOW REGULATIONS IMPACT THE POPULATION?
A
IMPACT THE POPULATION? A MINORITY IMPACTED ASSESSMENT
WILL
A MINORITY IMPACTED ASSESSMENT WILL CREATE A LIST OF ALL
POSITIVE,
WILL CREATE A LIST OF ALL POSITIVE, ALL NEGATIVE IMPACTS
SUPPOSED
POSITIVE, ALL NEGATIVE IMPACTS SUPPOSED REGULATION WOULD HAVE
AND
SUPPOSED REGULATION WOULD HAVE AND THE FACTORS INCLUDING
EMPLOYMENT,
AND THE FACTORS INCLUDING EMPLOYMENT, WAGES, CONSUMER
PRICES,
EMPLOYMENT, WAGES, CONSUMER PRICES, JOB CREATION, ETC.
THE
PRICES, JOB CREATION, ETC. THE REGULATORY IMPACT WOULD
THEN
THE REGULATORY IMPACT WOULD THEN BE ANALYZED FOR ITS
EFFECTS
THEN BE ANALYZED FOR ITS EFFECTS ON MINORITIES IN
CONTRAST
EFFECTS ON MINORITIES IN CONTRAST TO THE GENERAL
POPULATION.
THE
POPULATION. THE BOTTOM LINE, ANY POLICY
THAT
THE BOTTOM LINE, ANY POLICY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO ENERGY
POVERTY
THAT CONTRIBUTES TO ENERGY POVERTY IS A BAD ONE FOR LOW
INCOME
POVERTY IS A BAD ONE FOR LOW INCOME AND MINORITY
COMMUNITIES.
FORTUNATELY,
COMMUNITIES. FORTUNATELY, OUR NATION HAS AN
ABUNDANT
FORTUNATELY, OUR NATION HAS AN ABUNDANT SUPPLY OF NATURAL GAS
THAT
ABUNDANT SUPPLY OF NATURAL GAS THAT IS A SOLUTION TO OUR
NATION'S
THAT IS A SOLUTION TO OUR NATION'S ENERGY QUESTIONS.
RECENT
NATION'S ENERGY QUESTIONS. RECENT POLAR VORTEX
TEMPERATURES
RECENT POLAR VORTEX TEMPERATURES LAST WEEK DROPPED
SO
TEMPERATURES LAST WEEK DROPPED SO LOW IN SOME AREAS THAT
WINDMILLS
SO LOW IN SOME AREAS THAT WINDMILLS COULD NOT EVEN TURN.
WE
WINDMILLS COULD NOT EVEN TURN. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN B.
NATURAL
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN B. NATURAL GAS IS CLEAN.
U.S.
NATURAL GAS IS CLEAN. U.S. ENERGY INFORMATION
MINISTRATION
U.S. ENERGY INFORMATION MINISTRATION REPORTS THAT
ALMOST
FROM 2006 TWO 2014 CAME FROM THE FUEL SHIFTING TOWARDS
NATURAL
THE FUEL SHIFTING TOWARDS NATURAL GAS.
NATURAL
NATURAL GAS. NATURAL GAS IS RELIABLE.
IT
NATURAL GAS IS RELIABLE. IT IS EFFICIENT AND IT MEETS
THE
IT IS EFFICIENT AND IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR NATIONS.
NATURAL
THE NEEDS OF OUR NATIONS. NATURAL GAS IS AFFORDABLE AND
FOR
NATURAL GAS IS AFFORDABLE AND FOR MANY AMERICANS, THIS ALLOWS
THEM
FOR MANY AMERICANS, THIS ALLOWS THEM NOT TO HAVE TO CHOOSE TO
KEEP
THEM NOT TO HAVE TO CHOOSE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND FEED
THEIR
KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AND FEED THEIR FAMILIES.
SO
THEIR FAMILIES. SO IN CLOSING, I AM ALL FOR
PROTECTING
SO IN CLOSING, I AM ALL FOR PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT.
I
PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. I AM A LICENSED CAPTAIN.
I
I AM A LICENSED CAPTAIN. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE
MY
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MY BOAT TO FLORIDA AND BACK IN
INTERCOASTAL
MY BOAT TO FLORIDA AND BACK IN INTERCOASTAL WATERWAYS.
IT
INTERCOASTAL WATERWAYS. IT IS BEAUTIFUL SO I AM ALL FOR
THE
IT IS BEAUTIFUL SO I AM ALL FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
HOWEVER,
THE ENVIRONMENT. HOWEVER, UNTIL WE HAVE TO
MENTALLY
HOWEVER, UNTIL WE HAVE TO MENTALLY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
HARNESS
MENTALLY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HARNESS THE SUN AND THE WIND
AND
HARNESS THE SUN AND THE WIND AND SUSTAIN OURSELVES, WE NEED
TO
AND SUSTAIN OURSELVES, WE NEED TO USE WHAT WE HAVE A SPECIALLY
IF
TO USE WHAT WE HAVE A SPECIALLY IF IT CAN LOWER THE COST OF
ENERGY,
IF IT CAN LOWER THE COST OF ENERGY, CREATE JOBS, AND BOOST
THE
ENERGY, CREATE JOBS, AND BOOST THE ECONOMY.
THAT
THE ECONOMY. THAT IS MY TIME.
THANK
THAT IS MY TIME. THANK YOU.
>>
THANK YOU. >> DOCTOR.
>>
>> DOCTOR. >> I THINK THE CHAIRMAN, THE
RANKING
>> I THINK THE CHAIRMAN, THE RANKING MEMBER AND THE
COMMITTEE
RANKING MEMBER AND THE COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO
COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER TESTIMONY TODAY.
I
TO OFFER TESTIMONY TODAY. I AM CONCERNED THAT BOTH THE
CLIMATE
I AM CONCERNED THAT BOTH THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM AND ITS
SOLUTION
CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM AND ITS SOLUTION HAVE BEEN VASTLY
OVERSIMPLIFIED.
THIS
OVERSIMPLIFIED. THIS OVERSIMPLIFICATION HAS LED
TO
THIS OVERSIMPLIFICATION HAS LED TO POLITICIZED SCIENTIFIC
DEBATES
TO POLITICIZED SCIENTIFIC DEBATES AND POLICY LAW.
MY
DEBATES AND POLICY LAW. MY TESTIMONY IS PRESENTED TODAY
IN
MY TESTIMONY IS PRESENTED TODAY IN THE SPIRIT OF ACKNOWLEDGING
THE
IN THE SPIRIT OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROBLEM
AND
THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROBLEM AND PROPOSING PRAGMATIC IDEAS
THAT
AND PROPOSING PRAGMATIC IDEAS THAT CAN BREAK THE GOOD LAW.
CLIMATE
THAT CAN BREAK THE GOOD LAW. CLIMATE SCIENTISTS HAVE MADE A
FORCEFUL
CLIMATE SCIENTISTS HAVE MADE A FORCEFUL ARGUMENT FOR A FUTURE
THREATS
FORCEFUL ARGUMENT FOR A FUTURE THREATS FROM CLIMATE CHANGE.
MAN-MADE
THREATS FROM CLIMATE CHANGE. MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A
THEORY
MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS A THEORY WHOSE BASIC MECHANISM IS
WELL
THEORY WHOSE BASIC MECHANISM IS WELL UNDERSTOOD BUT THE
POTENTIAL
WELL UNDERSTOOD BUT THE POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE IS HIGHLY
UNCERTAIN.
IF
UNCERTAIN. IF CLIMATE CHANGE WERE A SIMPLE
PROBLEM,
IF CLIMATE CHANGE WERE A SIMPLE PROBLEM, EVERYONE WOULD AGREE
ON
PROBLEM, EVERYONE WOULD AGREE ON THE SOLUTION.
BECAUSE
ON THE SOLUTION. BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF
THE
BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE CLIMATE SYSTEM AND ITS
SOCIETAL
THE CLIMATE SYSTEM AND ITS SOCIETAL IMPACTS, SOLUTIONS MAY
HAVE
SOCIETAL IMPACTS, SOLUTIONS MAY HAVE SURPRISING UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES
HAVE SURPRISING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT GENERATE NEW
VULNERABILITIES.
IN
VULNERABILITIES. IN SHORT, THE CURE COULD BE
WORSE
IN SHORT, THE CURE COULD BE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.
GIVEN
WORSE THAN THE DISEASE. GIVEN THESE COMPLEXITIES, THERE
IS
GIVEN THESE COMPLEXITIES, THERE IS PLENTY OF SCOPE FOR
REASONABLE
IS PLENTY OF SCOPE FOR REASONABLE AND INTELLIGENT
PEOPLE
REASONABLE AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE TO DISAGREE.
BASED
PEOPLE TO DISAGREE. BASED ON CURRENT ASSESSMENTS OF
THE
BASED ON CURRENT ASSESSMENTS OF THE SCIENCE, MAN-MADE CLIMATE
CHANGE
THE SCIENCE, MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT AN EXISTENTIAL
THREAT
CHANGE IS NOT AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT ON THE TIMESCALE OF THE
21st
THREAT ON THE TIMESCALE OF THE 21st CENTURY EVEN IN ITS MOST
ALARMING
21st CENTURY EVEN IN ITS MOST ALARMING INCARNATION.
HOWEVER,
ALARMING INCARNATION. HOWEVER, THE PERCEPTION OF A
NEAR-TERM
HOWEVER, THE PERCEPTION OF A NEAR-TERM APOCALYPSE IN
ALIGNMENT
NEAR-TERM APOCALYPSE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE RANGE OF
OTHER
ALIGNMENT WITH THE RANGE OF OTHER SOCIAL OBJECTIVES HAS
NARROWED
OTHER SOCIAL OBJECTIVES HAS NARROWED THE POLICY OPTIONS
THAT
NARROWED THE POLICY OPTIONS THAT WE ARE WILLING TO
CONSIDER.
IN
CONSIDER. IN EVALUATING THE URGENCY OF
EMISSIONS
IN EVALUATING THE URGENCY OF EMISSIONS REDUCTION, WE NEED TO
BE
EMISSIONS REDUCTION, WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT THIS
WILL
BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH.
GLOBAL
WILL ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH. GLOBAL CO2 CONCENTRATIONS WILL
NOT
GLOBAL CO2 CONCENTRATIONS WILL NOT BE REDUCED IF EMISSIONS IN
CHINA
NOT BE REDUCED IF EMISSIONS IN CHINA AND INDIA CONTINUE TO
INCREASE.
IF
INCREASE. IF WE BELIEVE THE CLIMATE
MODEL,
IF WE BELIEVE THE CLIMATE MODEL, ANY CHANGES IN EXTREME
WEATHER
MODEL, ANY CHANGES IN EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS WOULD NOT BE
EVIDENT
WEATHER EVENTS WOULD NOT BE EVIDENT UNTIL LATE IN THE 21st
CENTURY.
THE
CENTURY. THE GREATEST IMPACTS WE FELT IN
THE
THE GREATEST IMPACTS WE FELT IN THE 22nd CENTURY AND BEYOND.
PEOPLE
THE 22nd CENTURY AND BEYOND. PEOPLE PREFER CLEAN OVER DIRTY
ENERGY.
PROVIDE
ENERGY. PROVIDE THAT THE ENERGY SOURCES
RELIABLE,
PROVIDE THAT THE ENERGY SOURCES RELIABLE, SECURE AND
ECONOMICAL.
HOWEVER,
ECONOMICAL. HOWEVER, IT IS MISGUIDED TO
ASSUME
HOWEVER, IT IS MISGUIDED TO ASSUME THAT CURRENT WIND AND
SOLAR
ASSUME THAT CURRENT WIND AND SOLAR TECHNOLOGIES ARE ADEQUATE
FOR
SOLAR TECHNOLOGIES ARE ADEQUATE FOR POWERING AN ADVANCED
ECONOMY.
THE
ECONOMY. THE RECENT RECORD-BREAKING COLD
OUTBREAK
THE RECENT RECORD-BREAKING COLD OUTBREAK IN THE MIDWEST IS A
STARK
OUTBREAK IN THE MIDWEST IS A STARK REMINDER OF THE
CHALLENGES
STARK REMINDER OF THE CHALLENGES OF PROVIDING
RELIABLE
CHALLENGES OF PROVIDING RELIABLE POWER SUPPLY IN THE
FACE
RELIABLE POWER SUPPLY IN THE FACE OF EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.
WITH
FACE OF EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS. WITH REGARDS TO ENERGY POLICY
AND
WITH REGARDS TO ENERGY POLICY AND ITS ROLE IN REDUCING
EMISSIONS,
AND ITS ROLE IN REDUCING EMISSIONS, THERE ARE CURRENTLY
TWO
EMISSIONS, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO OPTIONS AT PLAY.
OPTION
TWO OPTIONS AT PLAY. OPTION NUMBER ONE, DO NOTHING,
CONTINUE
OPTION NUMBER ONE, DO NOTHING, CONTINUE WITH THE STATUS QUO,
OR
CONTINUE WITH THE STATUS QUO, OR OPTION NUMBER TWO, RAPIDLY
DEPLOY
OR OPTION NUMBER TWO, RAPIDLY DEPLOY WIND AND SOLAR POWER
PLANTS
DEPLOY WIND AND SOLAR POWER PLANTS WITH THE GOAL OF
ELIMINATING
PLANTS WITH THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING FOSSIL FUELS IN ONE
OR
ELIMINATING FOSSIL FUELS IN ONE OR TWO DECADES.
APART
OR TWO DECADES. APART FROM THE GOOD LAW, BY
CONSIDERING
APART FROM THE GOOD LAW, BY CONSIDERING ONLY THESE TWO
OPTIONS,
CONSIDERING ONLY THESE TWO OPTIONS, IN MY OPINION, NEITHER
GETS
OPTIONS, IN MY OPINION, NEITHER GETS US WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
A
GETS US WHERE WE WANT TO GO. A THIRD OPTION IS TO REIMAGINE
THE
A THIRD OPTION IS TO REIMAGINE THE 21st CENTURY ELECTRIC POWER
SYSTEM
THE 21st CENTURY ELECTRIC POWER SYSTEM WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES
THAT
SYSTEM WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT IMPROVE ENERGY SECURITY,
RELIABILITY
THAT IMPROVE ENERGY SECURITY, RELIABILITY AND COST WHILE AT
THE
RELIABILITY AND COST WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MINIMIZING
ENVIRONMENTAL
THE SAME TIME MINIMIZING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. HOWEVER,
THIS
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. HOWEVER, THIS STRATEGY REQUIRES
SUBSTANTIAL
THIS STRATEGY REQUIRES SUBSTANTIAL RESEARCH
DEVELOPMENT
SUBSTANTIAL RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT AND
EXPERIMENTATION.
ACTING
EXPERIMENTATION. ACTING URGENTLY ON EMISSIONS
REDUCTION
ACTING URGENTLY ON EMISSIONS REDUCTION BY DEPLOYING 20th
CENTURY
REDUCTION BY DEPLOYING 20th CENTURY TECHNOLOGY COULD TURN
OUT
CENTURY TECHNOLOGY COULD TURN OUT TO BE THE ENEMY OF A BETTER
LONG-TERM
OUT TO BE THE ENEMY OF A BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
SINCE
LONG-TERM SOLUTION. SINCE REDUCING EMISSIONS IS NOT
EXPECTED
SINCE REDUCING EMISSIONS IS NOT EXPECTED TO CHANGE THE CLIMATE
ANY
EXPECTED TO CHANGE THE CLIMATE ANY MEANINGFUL WAY AND SO LATE
IN
ANY MEANINGFUL WAY AND SO LATE IN THE 21st CENTURY, ADAPTATION
STRATEGIES
IN THE 21st CENTURY, ADAPTATION STRATEGIES ARE RECEIVING
INCREASING
STRATEGIES ARE RECEIVING INCREASING ATTENTION.
THE
INCREASING ATTENTION. THE EXTREME DAMAGES FROM RECENT
HURRICANES,
THE EXTREME DAMAGES FROM RECENT HURRICANES, THE BILLION-DOLLAR
LOSSES
HURRICANES, THE BILLION-DOLLAR LOSSES FROM FLOODS, DROUGHTS,
AND
LOSSES FROM FLOODS, DROUGHTS, AND WILDFIRES, EMPHASIZE THE
VULNERABILITY
AND WILDFIRES, EMPHASIZE THE VULNERABILITY OF THE U.S. TO
EXTREME
VULNERABILITY OF THE U.S. TO EXTREME EVENTS.
IT
EXTREME EVENTS. IT IS EASY TO FORGET THAT U.S.
EXTREME
IT IS EASY TO FORGET THAT U.S. EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS WERE
ACTUALLY
EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS WERE ACTUALLY WORSE IN THE 1930S AND
50s.
REGIONS
50s. REGIONS THAT FIND SOLUTIONS TO
CURRENT
REGIONS THAT FIND SOLUTIONS TO CURRENT IMPACTS OF EXTREME
WEATHER
CURRENT IMPACTS OF EXTREME WEATHER AND CLIMATE EVENTS WILL
BE
WEATHER AND CLIMATE EVENTS WILL BE BETTER PREPARED TO COPE WITH
ANY
BE BETTER PREPARED TO COPE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL STRESSES FROM
CLIMATE
ANY ADDITIONAL STRESSES FROM CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO ADDRESS
NEAR-TERM
CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO ADDRESS NEAR-TERM AND SOCIAL JUSTICE
OBJECTIVES.
THE
OBJECTIVES. THE INDUSTRY LEADERS THAT I
ENGAGE
THE INDUSTRY LEADERS THAT I ENGAGE WITH SEEM HUNGRY FOR A
BIPARTISAN
ENGAGE WITH SEEM HUNGRY FOR A BIPARTISAN A PRAGMATIC APPROACH
TO
BIPARTISAN A PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO CLIMATE POLICY.
I
TO CLIMATE POLICY. I SEE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY
TO
I SEE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW
WE
TO CHANGE THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE APPROACH THIS.
BIPARTISAN
WE APPROACH THIS. BIPARTISAN SUPPORT SEEMS
FEASIBLE
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT SEEMS FEASIBLE FOR PRAGMATIC EFFORTS
TO
FEASIBLE FOR PRAGMATIC EFFORTS TO ACCELERATE ENERGY
INNOVATION,
TO ACCELERATE ENERGY INNOVATION, BUILD RESILIENCE TO
EXTREME
INNOVATION, BUILD RESILIENCE TO EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, PURSUE
NO
EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, PURSUE NO REGRETS, POLLUTION REDUCTION
MEASURES,
NO REGRETS, POLLUTION REDUCTION MEASURES, AND BETTER LAND-USE
PRACTICES.
EACH
PRACTICES. EACH OF THESE EFFORTS HAS
JUSTIFICATIONS
EACH OF THESE EFFORTS HAS JUSTIFICATIONS INDEPENDENT OF
THEIR
JUSTIFICATIONS INDEPENDENT OF THEIR BENEFITS FOR CLIMATE
CHANGE.
THESE
CHANGE. THESE EFFORTS PROVIDE THE BASIS
OF
THESE EFFORTS PROVIDE THE BASIS OF A CLIMATE POLICY THAT
ADDRESSES
OF A CLIMATE POLICY THAT ADDRESSES BOTH NEAR-TERM
ECONOMIC
ADDRESSES BOTH NEAR-TERM ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL JUSTICE
CONCERNS
ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL JUSTICE CONCERNS AND ALSO THE LONGER-
TERM
CONCERNS AND ALSO THE LONGER- TERM GOALS OF MITIGATION.
THIS
TERM GOALS OF MITIGATION. THIS ENDS MY TESTIMONY.
THANK
THIS ENDS MY TESTIMONY. THANK YOU.
>>
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE
WHOLE
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE WHOLE PANEL.
OUR
WHOLE PANEL. OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR
VALUABLE
OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT
TESTIMONY.
LET
TESTIMONY. LET ME TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR
QUESTIONS.
>>
QUESTIONS. >> FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIRMAN
>> FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR HOLDING THIS
HEARING.
IT
HEARING. IT IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR
PARTICULARLY
IT IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR PARTICULARLY FOR US NEW MEMBERS
WHO
PARTICULARLY FOR US NEW MEMBERS WHO JUST JOINED THE CONGRESS AT
THE
WHO JUST JOINED THE CONGRESS AT THE NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE,
THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, THAT THEY ARE TAKING
ON
COMMITTEE, THAT THEY ARE TAKING ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK ON SUCH
AN
ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
I
AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE
WITH
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH DOCTOR CURRY IN TERMS OF
YOUR
WITH DOCTOR CURRY IN TERMS OF YOUR FRAMING AROUND THE
EXISTENTIAL
YOUR FRAMING AROUND THE EXISTENTIAL NATURE OF THIS
ISSUE.
I
ISSUE. I THINK LIMIT CHANGE IS AN
EXISTENTIAL
I THINK LIMIT CHANGE IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT.
I
EXISTENTIAL THREAT. I THINK OF THIS IN THE CONTEXT
OF
I THINK OF THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF BEING A NEW YOUNG FATHER.
I
OF BEING A NEW YOUNG FATHER. I AM 34 YEARS OLD.
MY
I AM 34 YEARS OLD. MY WIFE AND I JUST HAD OUR
FIRST
MY WIFE AND I JUST HAD OUR FIRST CHILD.
MUCH
FIRST CHILD. MUCH OF OUR WORK HERE IN
CONGRESS
MUCH OF OUR WORK HERE IN CONGRESS IS ULTIMATELY MAKING
SURE
CONGRESS IS ULTIMATELY MAKING SURE THAT THE WORLD SHE
INHERITS
SURE THAT THE WORLD SHE INHERITS IS PERHAPS A BETTER
ONE
INHERITS IS PERHAPS A BETTER ONE THAN WHAT WE INHERITED AND
ONE
ONE THAN WHAT WE INHERITED AND ONE NEED LOOK NO FURTHER THAN
THE
ONE NEED LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE IPCC REPORT AND A VARIETY
OF
THE IPCC REPORT AND A VARIETY OF OTHER STUDIES TO JUST SEE
HOW
OF OTHER STUDIES TO JUST SEE HOW CATASTROPHIC THE
CONSEQUENCES
HOW CATASTROPHIC THE CONSEQUENCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE
WILL
CONSEQUENCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE FOR HER GENERATION.
IF
WILL BE FOR HER GENERATION. IF WE DO NOT TAKE DECISIVE
ACTION
IF WE DO NOT TAKE DECISIVE ACTION AND IF WE DO NOT DO SO
NOW.
I
NOW. I CAN TELL YOU IT CERTAINLY IN
MY
I CAN TELL YOU IT CERTAINLY IN MY COMMUNITY IN COLORADO, WE
ARE
MY COMMUNITY IN COLORADO, WE ARE FILLING THE IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE
ARE FILLING THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ALREADY.
I
CLIMATE CHANGE ALREADY. I HAVE REPORT HERE THAT I WILL
RESPECTFULLY
I HAVE REPORT HERE THAT I WILL RESPECTFULLY AS TO BE SUBMITTED
INTO
RESPECTFULLY AS TO BE SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD BY THE MOST
RECENT
INTO THE RECORD BY THE MOST RECENT REPORT FROM THE
DEPARTMENT
RECENT REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR.
I
DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR. I REPRESENT THE SECOND
CONGRESSIONAL
I REPRESENT THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT,
NORTHERN
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, NORTHERN COLORADO.
82%
NORTHERN COLORADO. 82% OF MY DISTRICT IS FEDERAL
PUBLIC
82% OF MY DISTRICT IS FEDERAL PUBLIC LAND AND WE SEE VERY
CLEARLY
PUBLIC LAND AND WE SEE VERY CLEARLY THE IMPACT THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE
CLEARLY THE IMPACT THAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND ELSEWHERE.
MY
CHANGE AND ELSEWHERE. MY CONSTITUENTS SEE IT EVERY
DAY.
RISING
DAY. RISING TEMPERATURES HAVE LED TO
SNOW
RISING TEMPERATURES HAVE LED TO SNOW MELTING FASTER WHICH
CAUSES
SNOW MELTING FASTER WHICH CAUSES INCREASED FLOODING AND
EROSION
CAUSES INCREASED FLOODING AND EROSION AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTS
COLORADO'S
EROSION AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTS COLORADO'S FRESHWATER SUPPLY.
70%
COLORADO'S FRESHWATER SUPPLY. 70% OF WHICH COMES FROM OUR
SNOW.
ROCKY
SNOW. ROCKY MOUNT NATIONAL PARK,
STUDIES
ROCKY MOUNT NATIONAL PARK, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT
AMATEURS
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT AMATEURS HAVE RISEN THREE OR
FOUR
AMATEURS HAVE RISEN THREE OR FOUR DEGREES AFFECTING THE
PLANTS
FOUR DEGREES AFFECTING THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT CALL
THE
PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT CALL THE PARK HOME.
I
THE PARK HOME. I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITY
I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE
COMPREHENSIVE,
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC, AND
SIGNIFICANT
COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC, AND SIGNIFICANT ACTION TO SOLVE
THIS
SIGNIFICANT ACTION TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE, ACTIONS LIKE THE
GREEN
THIS ISSUE, ACTIONS LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL WHICH I SUPPORT
ALONG
GREEN NEW DEAL WHICH I SUPPORT ALONG WITH SEVERAL OF MY
COLLEAGUES.
I
COLLEAGUES. I HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION
TO
I HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OVER 400,000 ACRES
OF
TO PROTECT OVER 400,000 ACRES OF PUBLIC LANDS IN MY STATE AND
COLORADO
OF PUBLIC LANDS IN MY STATE AND COLORADO SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE
THAT
COLORADO SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THOSE LANDS ARE NOT SOLD
TO
THAT THOSE LANDS ARE NOT SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER AND
OPENED
TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER AND OPENED UP TO OIL AND GAS
DEVELOPMENT
OPENED UP TO OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT AND THE REST.
SO
DEVELOPMENT AND THE REST. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I
THINK
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THIS WAS A DEFINING ISSUE
OF
THINK THIS WAS A DEFINING ISSUE OF OUR TIME.
I
OF OUR TIME. I THINK THE WITNESSES WITH
RESPECT
I THINK THE WITNESSES WITH RESPECT TO THEIR ACTIVISM AND
TRYING
RESPECT TO THEIR ACTIVISM AND TRYING TO PUSH FOR COMMONSENSE
SOLUTIONS
TRYING TO PUSH FOR COMMONSENSE SOLUTIONS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY
PROTECT
SOLUTIONS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY PROTECT THE PLANET FOR ALL OF
OUR
PROTECT THE PLANET FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN.
MY
OUR CHILDREN. MY QUESTION GOES TO MR. HOLLY.
I
MY QUESTION GOES TO MR. HOLLY. I HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY WITH
RESPECT
I HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY WITH RESPECT TO ENERGY, POVERTY, I
THINK
RESPECT TO ENERGY, POVERTY, I THINK AS YOU DESCRIBED IT AND
THE
THINK AS YOU DESCRIBED IT AND THE ISSUES AROUND
AFFORDABILITY.
I
AFFORDABILITY. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE
OF
I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS.
YOU
OF THIS. YOU REFERENCED NATURAL GAS AS
BEING
YOU REFERENCED NATURAL GAS AS BEING QUOTE CLEAN.
ACCORDING
BEING QUOTE CLEAN. ACCORDING TO THE NAACP CLEANER
TASK
ACCORDING TO THE NAACP CLEANER TASK AIR FORCE, AIR TASK FORCE
REPORT,
TASK AIR FORCE, AIR TASK FORCE REPORT, AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY
REPORT, AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS AN ELEVATED RISK
OF
COMMUNITY IS AN ELEVATED RISK OF CANCER DUE TO AIR TOXIC
EMISSIONS
OF CANCER DUE TO AIR TOXIC EMISSIONS FROM NATURAL GAS
DEVELOPMENT
EMISSIONS FROM NATURAL GAS DEVELOPMENT AND OVER 1 MILLION
AFRICAN-AMERICANS
DEVELOPMENT AND OVER 1 MILLION AFRICAN-AMERICANS LIVE IN
COUNTIES
AFRICAN-AMERICANS LIVE IN COUNTIES THAT FACE A CANCER
RISK
COUNTIES THAT FACE A CANCER RISK ABOVE THE EPA'S LEVEL OF
CONCERN
RISK ABOVE THE EPA'S LEVEL OF CONCERN FROM TOXINS EMITTED BY
NATURAL
CONCERN FROM TOXINS EMITTED BY NATURAL GAS FACILITIES.
I'M
NATURAL GAS FACILITIES. I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU WOULD
RESPOND
I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU WOULD RESPOND TO THAT SADISTIC.
>>
RESPOND TO THAT SADISTIC. >> MY RESPONSE WOULD BE ALL OF
OUR
>> MY RESPONSE WOULD BE ALL OF OUR ENERGY SOURCES HAVE SOME
TYPE
OUR ENERGY SOURCES HAVE SOME TYPE OF DOWNSIDE TO THEM, EVEN
CALL.
WE
CALL. WE LOOK --
>>
WE LOOK -- >> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU
THERE.
COAL
THERE. COAL CERTAINLY HAS NEGATIVE
IMPACTS.
>>
IMPACTS. >> IF I COULD FINISH, SIR.
EVEN
>> IF I COULD FINISH, SIR. EVEN THE WIND, TURBINES, THIS
WINTER,
EVEN THE WIND, TURBINES, THIS WINTER, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
COULD
WINTER, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, COULD NOT OPERATE, DOWNSIDE.
WE
COULD NOT OPERATE, DOWNSIDE. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT LIQUID
GAS,
WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT LIQUID GAS, NATURAL GAS, IS THE
CLEANEST
GAS, NATURAL GAS, IS THE CLEANEST WAY AND THE MOST
AFFORDABLE
CLEANEST WAY AND THE MOST AFFORDABLE RATE RIGHT NOW FOR
PEOPLE
AFFORDABLE RATE RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
>>
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND
YOUR
>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMPARISON OF WINDMILLS TO
THE
YOUR COMPARISON OF WINDMILLS TO THE TOXINS, THE POTENTIAL
CANCEL
THE TOXINS, THE POTENTIAL CANCEL RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH
NATURAL
CANCEL RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL GAS EMISSIONS BUT
NONETHELESS,
NATURAL GAS EMISSIONS BUT NONETHELESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU
NONETHELESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN A NUMBER OF
EDITORIALS
YOU HAVE WRITTEN A NUMBER OF EDITORIALS AND OBVIOUSLY FROM
YOUR
EDITORIALS AND OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY, SUPPORT
THE
YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY, SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOSSIL FUEL
--
THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOSSIL FUEL -- FUELS.
>>
-- FUELS. >> ENERGY EXPIRATIONS.
>>
>> ENERGY EXPIRATIONS. >> UNDERSTAND YOUR
ORGANIZATION,
>> UNDERSTAND YOUR ORGANIZATION, REACHING AMERICA,
YOU
ORGANIZATION, REACHING AMERICA, YOU HAVE USED THAT ORGANIZATION
TO
YOU HAVE USED THAT ORGANIZATION TO MAKE THOSE VIEWS KNOWN.
IS
TO MAKE THOSE VIEWS KNOWN. IS THAT A FAIR --
>>
IS THAT A FAIR -- >> THAT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
>>
>> THAT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT. >> I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR
ORGANIZATION
>> I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS A PARTNER WITH
A
ORGANIZATION IS A PARTNER WITH A GROUP CALLED EXPLORE
OFFSHORE.
IS
OFFSHORE. IS THAT CORRECT?
>>
IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE ARE A MEMBER OF THAT
ORGANIZATION,
>> WE ARE A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION, YES.
>>
ORGANIZATION, YES. >> THAT IS AN ORGANIZATION OF
THE
>> THAT IS AN ORGANIZATION OF THE AMERICAN PETROLEUM
INSTITUTE.
DOES
INSTITUTE. DOES YOUR ORGANIZATION RECEIVE
ANY
DOES YOUR ORGANIZATION RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM FOSSIL FUEL
COMPANIES?
>>
COMPANIES? >> NO.
WE
>> NO. WE DO NOT.
>>
WE DO NOT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AM CURIOUS.
FROM
I AM CURIOUS. FROM YOUR TESTIMONY, IT SOUNDS
LIKE
FROM YOUR TESTIMONY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SUPPORT THE GREEN NEW
DEAL.
IS
DEAL. IS THAT FAIR?
>>
IS THAT FAIR? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>>
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> OKAY.
YOU
>> OKAY. YOU MENTIONED YOUR POSITION AS
A
YOU MENTIONED YOUR POSITION AS A CHAPLAIN IN THE MILITARY AND
SOME
A CHAPLAIN IN THE MILITARY AND SOME OF US HAVE REAL CONCERNS
ABOUT
SOME OF US HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT CLOSING EVERY BASE AND
CUTTING
ABOUT CLOSING EVERY BASE AND CUTTING OUR MILITARY BY 50%.
THAT
CUTTING OUR MILITARY BY 50%. THAT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU
SUPPORT
THAT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU SUPPORT THOSE.
>>
SUPPORT THOSE. >> THE MILITARY HAS A SPOKEN,
WAS
>> THE MILITARY HAS A SPOKEN, WAS ONE OF THE KEY INSTITUTIONS
OF
WAS ONE OF THE KEY INSTITUTIONS OF OUR GOVERNMENT THAT HAS
SPOKEN
OF OUR GOVERNMENT THAT HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THE THREATS OF
CLIMATE
SPOKEN ABOUT THE THREATS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
>>
CLIMATE CHANGE. >> RIGHT BUT THAT GREEN NEW
DEAL
>> RIGHT BUT THAT GREEN NEW DEAL IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF
THAT
DEAL IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT BUT MAKING US BASICALLY
INDEFENSIBLE
THAT BUT MAKING US BASICALLY INDEFENSIBLE WITH 50% CUT. WE
WILL
INDEFENSIBLE WITH 50% CUT. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROTECT
OURSELVES
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROTECT OURSELVES PROPERLY FROM THE
THREAT
OURSELVES PROPERLY FROM THE THREAT OF RUSSIA, CHINA, OR
EVEN
THREAT OF RUSSIA, CHINA, OR EVEN ISIS.
ENCLOSING
EVEN ISIS. ENCLOSING ALL BASES OVERSEAS.
--
ENCLOSING ALL BASES OVERSEAS. -- IN CLOSING ALL BASES
OVERSEAS.
I
OVERSEAS. I COULDN'T HELP AS I LISTENED
TO
I COULDN'T HELP AS I LISTENED TO MR. HOLLY, YOUR TESTIMONY.
THINK
TO MR. HOLLY, YOUR TESTIMONY. THINK BACK TO JUST A GIANT HERE
IN
THINK BACK TO JUST A GIANT HERE IN THE U.S. CONGRESS NAMED JOHN
DINGELL.
HE
DINGELL. HE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE ENERGY
AND
HE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE WHEN
DEMOCRATS
AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE WHEN DEMOCRATS TOOK THE MAJORITY
BACK
DEMOCRATS TOOK THE MAJORITY BACK IN JANUARY OF 2007 THROUGH
JANUARY
BACK IN JANUARY OF 2007 THROUGH JANUARY OF 2011.
I
JANUARY OF 2011. I MEAN FOR 50 YEARS, HE AND HIS
FATHER
I MEAN FOR 50 YEARS, HE AND HIS FATHER HAD WANTED SOME KIND OF
UNIVERSAL
FATHER HAD WANTED SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AND HE WAS
THRILLED
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AND HE WAS THRILLED THAT HE WAS GOING TO
GET
THRILLED THAT HE WAS GOING TO GET TO CHAIR THAT INTO BEING.
MY
GET TO CHAIR THAT INTO BEING. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE
SPEAKER
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, NOW
SPEAKER
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, NOW SPEAKER AGAIN, WANTED TO THINGS
OUT
SPEAKER AGAIN, WANTED TO THINGS OUT OF HIS COMMITTEE.
THEY
OUT OF HIS COMMITTEE. THEY ONE OF THE UNIVERSAL
HEALTHCARE
THEY ONE OF THE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE BILL, OBAMA CARE,
AND
HEALTHCARE BILL, OBAMA CARE, AND CAP AND TRADE AND HE MADE
THE
AND CAP AND TRADE AND HE MADE THE PUBLIC STATEMENT BECAUSE
THAT
THE PUBLIC STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT JACKS UP THE COST OF
ENERGY
THAT JACKS UP THE COST OF ENERGY LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN
TALKING
ENERGY LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AS
TALKING ABOUT. AS YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE
AS YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED, IT ISN'T THE
RICH.
THEY
RICH. THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
SO
THEY CAN AFFORD IT. SO HE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT
CAP
SO HE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT CAP AND TRADE BILL IS NOT ONLY
A
CAP AND TRADE BILL IS NOT ONLY A TAX, IT IS A GREAT BIG TAX
AND
A TAX, IT IS A GREAT BIG TAX AND OF COURSE, THE NATION'S
POOR
AND OF COURSE, THE NATION'S POOR ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE
MOST
POOR ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED.
BECAUSE
MOST IMPACTED. BECAUSE OF HIS COMMENT, HE WAS
FIRED
BECAUSE OF HIS COMMENT, HE WAS FIRED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE ENERGY
AND
FIRED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE.
MR.
AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE. MR. WAXMAN WAS MADE CHAIRMAN
AND
MR. WAXMAN WAS MADE CHAIRMAN AND AS HE FAMOUSLY SAID, WE NOT
ONLY
AND AS HE FAMOUSLY SAID, WE NOT ONLY DON'T WANT YOUR INPUT, WE
DO
ONLY DON'T WANT YOUR INPUT, WE DO NOT NEED WERE VOTES AND SO
HE
DO NOT NEED WERE VOTES AND SO HE PUSHED IT THROUGH.
IT
HE PUSHED IT THROUGH. IT NEVER BECAME LAW.
AS
IT NEVER BECAME LAW. AS YOU TESTIFIED, THAT DOES
COME
AS YOU TESTIFIED, THAT DOES COME BACK TO MIND.
I
COME BACK TO MIND. I HAD AN 80-YEAR-OLD LADY SAY I
AM
I HAD AN 80-YEAR-OLD LADY SAY I AM SCARED MY COST OF ENERGY TO
FEED
AM SCARED MY COST OF ENERGY TO FEED MY HOME IS GOING UP, AND I
WAS
FEED MY HOME IS GOING UP, AND I WAS BORN IN A HOME THAT ONLY
HAD
WAS BORN IN A HOME THAT ONLY HAD A WOOD-BURNING STOVE AND I
AM
HAD A WOOD-BURNING STOVE AND I AM AFRAID I'M GOING TO DIE IN A
HOME
AM AFRAID I'M GOING TO DIE IN A HOME THAT CAN ONLY AFFORD A
WOOD-BURNING
HOME THAT CAN ONLY AFFORD A WOOD-BURNING STOVE AND I SAID I
AM
WOOD-BURNING STOVE AND I SAID I AM REALLY SORRY TO BE THE
BEARER
AM REALLY SORRY TO BE THE BEARER OF BAD TIDINGS BUT
PROBABLY
BEARER OF BAD TIDINGS BUT PROBABLY YOUR WOOD-BURNING
STOVE
PROBABLY YOUR WOOD-BURNING STOVE IS GOING TO END UP BEING
A
STOVE IS GOING TO END UP BEING A LEGAL.
IT
A LEGAL. IT IS TRAGIC, AND IT IS THE
POOR
IT IS TRAGIC, AND IT IS THE POOR THAT SUCK IT UP.
WHEN
POOR THAT SUCK IT UP. WHEN WE PUSH THESE KINDS OF
THINGS.
SO
THINGS. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
PERSPECTIVE
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE VERY MUCH.
DOCTOR
PERSPECTIVE VERY MUCH. DOCTOR CURRY, LET ME ASK YOU
QUICKLY.
HAS
QUICKLY. HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY CLIMATE
CHANGE
HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY CLIMATE CHANGE MORE DRAMATICALLY THAN
WHAT
CHANGE MORE DRAMATICALLY THAN WHAT KILLED OFF THE DINOSAURS?
>>
WHAT KILLED OFF THE DINOSAURS? >> CLIMATE HAS ALWAYS VERY.
SOMETIMES
>> CLIMATE HAS ALWAYS VERY. SOMETIMES THEY ARE EXTREME
EVENTS,
SOMETIMES THEY ARE EXTREME EVENTS, LIKE MAYBE AN ASTEROID
OR
EVENTS, LIKE MAYBE AN ASTEROID OR COMET IMPACT OR SOMETHING
LIKE
OR COMET IMPACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE OCEAN,
VOLCANIC
LIKE THAT, BUT THE OCEAN, VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS, THERE IS
MANY
VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS, THERE IS MANY SOURCES OF NATURAL
VARIABILITY
MANY SOURCES OF NATURAL VARIABILITY ON ALL TIMESCALES.
SO
VARIABILITY ON ALL TIMESCALES. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE CLIMATE
CHANGING,
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE CLIMATE CHANGING, YOU CANNOT
IMMEDIATELY
CHANGING, YOU CANNOT IMMEDIATELY ASSUME THAT IT IS
ALL
IMMEDIATELY ASSUME THAT IT IS ALL CAUSED BY HUMANS.
THERE
ALL CAUSED BY HUMANS. THERE IS A STRONG NATURAL.
>>
THERE IS A STRONG NATURAL. >> DO YOU THINK WE ARE CAUSING
THE
>> DO YOU THINK WE ARE CAUSING THE POLAR ICE CAPS ON MARS TO
MELT?
>>
MELT? >> NO.
>>
>> NO. >> THAT IS PROBABLY THE SUN.
MY
>> THAT IS PROBABLY THE SUN. MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
I
MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT. I APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR
WITNESSES.
THE
WITNESSES. THE COMPARISON OF THE CIVIL
RIGHTS
THE COMPARISON OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS EFFORT, THAT WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS EFFORT, THAT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIVITY BY
THE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIVITY BY THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT JUST
STRIKES
THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT JUST STRIKES ME SO IRONIC THAT IF
THE
STRIKES ME SO IRONIC THAT IF THE CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE
GREEN
THE CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE GREEN NEW DEAL COMES INTO LAW,
IT
GREEN NEW DEAL COMES INTO LAW, IT IS SAYING WE ARE GIVING UP
OUR
IT IS SAYING WE ARE GIVING UP OUR FREEDOM AND PUTTING ALL OF
OUR
OUR FREEDOM AND PUTTING ALL OF OUR FAITH IN THE GOVERNMENT
BECAUSE
OUR FAITH IN THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THE CIVIL RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS
BECAUSE THE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS TO BEGIN WITH.
IT
VIOLATIONS TO BEGIN WITH. IT IS JUST RATHER IRONIC BUT MY
TIME
IT IS JUST RATHER IRONIC BUT MY TIME IS EXPIRED.
I
TIME IS EXPIRED. I WILL GIVE IT BACK.
>>
I WILL GIVE IT BACK. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY AFTER
MANY
OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY AFTER MANY YEARS HAVE A HEARING ON
CLIMATE
MANY YEARS HAVE A HEARING ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
I
CLIMATE CHANGE. I WANT TO THANK OUR WITNESSES
ALONG
I WANT TO THANK OUR WITNESSES ALONG WITH OUR GOVERNORS WHO
SIGNALED
ALONG WITH OUR GOVERNORS WHO SIGNALED A BIPARTISAN DESIRE TO
SEE
SIGNALED A BIPARTISAN DESIRE TO SEE STRONG FEDERAL ACTION.
LET'S
SEE STRONG FEDERAL ACTION. LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE.
THE
LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE. THE OVERWHELMING SCIENTIFIC
CONSENSUS
THE OVERWHELMING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS HAS LEFT NO DOUBT
THAT
CONSENSUS HAS LEFT NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE FACING A CLIMATE
CRISIS.
IT
CRISIS. IT IS LONG PAST TIME TO STOP
UNDERMINING
IT IS LONG PAST TIME TO STOP UNDERMINING SCIENCE AND
EVIDENCE.
THE
EVIDENCE. THE REPORT THAT WE SAW THIS
MORNING
THE REPORT THAT WE SAW THIS MORNING FROM A NO AND NASA
SHOWS
MORNING FROM A NO AND NASA SHOWS THE FIVE WARMEST YEARS
RECORDED
SHOWS THE FIVE WARMEST YEARS RECORDED SINCE 1880 ARE THE
LAST
RECORDED SINCE 1880 ARE THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
THIS
LAST FIVE YEARS. THIS IS IT THAT HARD TO FIGURE
OUT.
NOW
OUT. NOW MUST BE THE TIME TO ACCEPT
REALITY.
THIS
REALITY. THIS IS REALITY.
WE
THIS IS REALITY. WE HAVE GOT TO BEGIN FOCUSING
ON
WE HAVE GOT TO BEGIN FOCUSING ON SOLUTIONS.
I
ON SOLUTIONS. I WANT TO THANK THE YOUNG
PEOPLE
I WANT TO THANK THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE FOR
LEADING
PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE FOR LEADING THE WAY ON INITIATIVES
LIKE
LEADING THE WAY ON INITIATIVES LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
WE
LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL. WE MUST NOT WAIT TO ACCELERATE
THE
WE MUST NOT WAIT TO ACCELERATE THE DEPLOYMENT OF RENEWABLE
ENERGY
THE DEPLOYMENT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY OR ENERGY EFFICIENT
BUILDINGS
ENERGY OR ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDINGS OR THE
ELECTRIFICATION
BUILDINGS OR THE ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M
INFRASTRUCTURE. I'M FROM THE GREAT STATE OF
CALIFORNIA
I'M FROM THE GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA WERE I'VE BEEN
INVOLVED
CALIFORNIA WERE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN CLIMATE ENERGY
POLICY
INVOLVED IN CLIMATE ENERGY POLICY FOR A LONG TIME AND I
HAVE
POLICY FOR A LONG TIME AND I HAVE HEARD THE NAYSAYERS EVERY
STEP
HAVE HEARD THE NAYSAYERS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
WHAT
STEP OF THE WAY. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE
DEMONSTRATED
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED BEYOND ANY SHADOW
OF
DEMONSTRATED BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT IF YOU PROTECT
THE
OF A DOUBT THAT IF YOU PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND INNOVATE
WITH
THE ENVIRONMENT AND INNOVATE WITH THE CLEAN ENERGY JOBS OF
THE
WITH THE CLEAN ENERGY JOBS OF THE FUTURE, YOU WILL GROW THE
ECONOMY
THE FUTURE, YOU WILL GROW THE ECONOMY AT THE SAME TIME.
OUR
ECONOMY AT THE SAME TIME. OUR SOUL INDUSTRY IN CALIFORNIA
IS
OUR SOUL INDUSTRY IN CALIFORNIA IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THAT.
WE
IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THAT. WE MUST ALSO NOT ADVOCATE OUR
GLOBAL
WE MUST ALSO NOT ADVOCATE OUR GLOBAL LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE
OF
GLOBAL LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE OR
SUBCONTRACT
OF CLIMATE CHANGE OR SUBCONTRACT OR ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENT
SUBCONTRACT OR ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT POLICIES THROUGH A
HANDFUL
ENVIRONMENT POLICIES THROUGH A HANDFUL OF BIG POLLUTERS WHO
IGNORE
HANDFUL OF BIG POLLUTERS WHO IGNORE SCIENCE AND COMMON
SENSE.
WE
SENSE. WE MUST NOT SIT BY AS
UNPRECEDENTED
WE MUST NOT SIT BY AS UNPRECEDENTED CLIMATE CHANGE
IMPACTS
UNPRECEDENTED CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
AND
IMPACTS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND ECONOMY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
KNOW
AND ECONOMY OF OUR COMMUNITIES. KNOW I AM CONFIDENT THAT A
STRONG
KNOW I AM CONFIDENT THAT A STRONG MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE
STRONG MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WITH US.
EVEN
PEOPLE ARE WITH US. EVEN A STRONG MAJORITY OF MY
COLLEAGUES
EVEN A STRONG MAJORITY OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE AND
SENATE.
THE
SENATE. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE HAVE
THE
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO ACT ON CLIMATE
AND
THE COURAGE TO ACT ON CLIMATE AND THIS HEARING IS JUST ONE
STEP
AND THIS HEARING IS JUST ONE STEP OF MANY THAT WE ARE GOING
TO
STEP OF MANY THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE IN THAT
DIRECTION.
THE
DIRECTION. THE TRANSITIONAL ON A MORE
SUSTAINABLE
THE TRANSITIONAL ON A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE HAS BEEN MY
LIFE'S
SUSTAINABLE FUTURE HAS BEEN MY LIFE'S WORK AND IT WILL BE A
CRITICAL
LIFE'S WORK AND IT WILL BE A CRITICAL ASPECT OF MY SERVICE
IN
CRITICAL ASPECT OF MY SERVICE IN CONGRESS.
I
IN CONGRESS. I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT POLITICS
ASIDE
I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT POLITICS ASIDE IF EVEN FOR JUST A MOMENT
AND
ASIDE IF EVEN FOR JUST A MOMENT AND FOCUS INSTEAD ON SCIENCE
AND
AND FOCUS INSTEAD ON SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE AND OUR FUTURE.
LIKE
AND EVIDENCE AND OUR FUTURE. LIKE MY FRIEND, I HAVE TWO
YOUNG
LIKE MY FRIEND, I HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN AT HOME.
THIS
YOUNG CHILDREN AT HOME. THIS IS ABOUT LEAVING THE
PLANET
THIS IS ABOUT LEAVING THE PLANET BETTER FOR THEM THAN HOW
I
PLANET BETTER FOR THEM THAN HOW I FOUND IT.
WITH
I FOUND IT. WITH AKAMAI ACTUALLY DO HAVE A
COUPLE
WITH AKAMAI ACTUALLY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR DOCTOR
COBB.
I
COBB. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK.
WE
WORK. WE HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS STUDIES
OVER
WE HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS STUDIES OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
LIMIT
OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. LIMIT CHANGE IS WREAKING HAVOC
ON
LIMIT CHANGE IS WREAKING HAVOC ON ECOSYSTEMS.
WE
ON ECOSYSTEMS. WE HAVE POTENTIALLY LOST TWO
THIRDS
WE HAVE POTENTIALLY LOST TWO THIRDS OF ALL SPECIES THAT WERE
ON
THIRDS OF ALL SPECIES THAT WERE ON THE PLANET BEFORE THE
INDUSTRIAL
ON THE PLANET BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
SO
INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. SO WHY IS THE PRESERVATION OF
BIODIVERSITY
SO WHY IS THE PRESERVATION OF BIODIVERSITY SO IMPORTANT FOR
OUR
BIODIVERSITY SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESILIENCY TO CLIMATE
CHANGE
OUR RESILIENCY TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHAT STEPS CAN WE
TAKE
CHANGE AND WHAT STEPS CAN WE TAKE TO PRESERVE BIODIVERSITY
PARTICULARLY
TAKE TO PRESERVE BIODIVERSITY PARTICULARLY AS THE NATURAL
RESOURCES
PARTICULARLY AS THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE?
>>
RESOURCES COMMITTEE? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
THE
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THAT.
I
THAT. I THINK I MADE CLEAR THE
TESTIMONY
I THINK I MADE CLEAR THE TESTIMONY THAT I PROVIDED THAT
ANY
TESTIMONY THAT I PROVIDED THAT ANY NUMBER OF INDICATORS OF HOW
ECOSYSTEMS
ANY NUMBER OF INDICATORS OF HOW ECOSYSTEMS HEALTH ARE ALREADY
SHOWING
ECOSYSTEMS HEALTH ARE ALREADY SHOWING STEADY DECLINE WITH
RESPECT
SHOWING STEADY DECLINE WITH RESPECT TO CLIMATE CHANGE
IMPACTS,
RESPECT TO CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS, THE NATIONAL CLIMATE
ASSESSMENT
IMPACTS, THE NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT LAYS THAT OUT ITEM
BY
ASSESSMENT LAYS THAT OUT ITEM BY ITEM.
TO
BY ITEM. TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
BIODIVERSITY,
TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT BIODIVERSITY, DIVERSITY IS
SPECIES
BIODIVERSITY, DIVERSITY IS SPECIES IS CRITICAL TO THE
FUNCTION
SPECIES IS CRITICAL TO THE FUNCTION OF ECOSYSTEMS AND IN
TURN
FUNCTION OF ECOSYSTEMS AND IN TURN THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES
THAT
TURN THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAT WE RELY ON.
WE
THAT WE RELY ON. WE MIGHT TURN TO THE
FUNCTIONING
WE MIGHT TURN TO THE FUNCTIONING OF COASTAL
ECOSYSTEMS
FUNCTIONING OF COASTAL ECOSYSTEMS AND RECOGNIZE THE
IMPORTANCE
ECOSYSTEMS AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF FUNCTION
ECOSYSTEMS
IMPORTANCE OF FUNCTION ECOSYSTEMS THAT PROVIDE
FISHERMEN
ECOSYSTEMS THAT PROVIDE FISHERMEN WITH LIVELIHOODS AND
ANY
FISHERMEN WITH LIVELIHOODS AND ANY OTHER KINDS OF TOURIST
RELATED
ANY OTHER KINDS OF TOURIST RELATED SERVICES AS WELL.
SO
RELATED SERVICES AS WELL. SO THIS HAS A DISTINCT VALUE TO
AMERICANS
SO THIS HAS A DISTINCT VALUE TO AMERICANS THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN
AGAIN
AMERICANS THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
CERTAINLY
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND CERTAINLY SCIENCE TELLS US SOME
OF
CERTAINLY SCIENCE TELLS US SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THIS COMMITTEE
CAN
OF THE WAYS THAT THIS COMMITTEE CAN HELP TO PROMOTE
BIODIVERSITY
CAN HELP TO PROMOTE BIODIVERSITY AND INCREASE
ECOSYSTEM
BIODIVERSITY AND INCREASE ECOSYSTEM RESILIENCE AND
THEREFORE,
ECOSYSTEM RESILIENCE AND THEREFORE, SUPPORT THE
COMMUNITIES
THEREFORE, SUPPORT THE COMMUNITIES THAT DEPEND ON
THESE
COMMUNITIES THAT DEPEND ON THESE SERVICES.
SOME
THESE SERVICES. SOME OF THOSE WAYS INCLUDE
PROTECTING
SOME OF THOSE WAYS INCLUDE PROTECTING THE LANDS THAT THESE
SPECIES
PROTECTING THE LANDS THAT THESE SPECIES DEPEND ON AND USING THE
BEST
SPECIES DEPEND ON AND USING THE BEST SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE TO
INFORM
BEST SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE TO INFORM THE SUPPORTS OF THESE
ECOSYSTEMS
INFORM THE SUPPORTS OF THESE ECOSYSTEMS AND THE CRITICAL
SPECIES
ECOSYSTEMS AND THE CRITICAL SPECIES THAT SUPPORT THEIR
FUNCTION.
SPECIES THAT SUPPORT THEIR FUNCTION. THAT IS JUST ONE WAY.
THANK
FUNCTION. THAT IS JUST ONE WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I REPRESENT A DISTRICT,
CALIFORNIA'S
>> I REPRESENT A DISTRICT, CALIFORNIA'S 39th DISTRICT,
WITH
CALIFORNIA'S 39th DISTRICT, WITH OVER 50 MILES OF
COASTLINE.
MY
COASTLINE. MY FRIENDS AT THE SCRIPPS
INSTITUTE
MY FRIENDS AT THE SCRIPPS INSTITUTE OF OCEANOGRAPHY AGREE
WITH
INSTITUTE OF OCEANOGRAPHY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE ABSOLUTELY
MUST
WITH YOU THAT WE ABSOLUTELY MUST FACE THE REALITY, THE
CHANGING
MUST FACE THE REALITY, THE CHANGING TEMPERATURE OF OUR
OCEANS,
CHANGING TEMPERATURE OF OUR OCEANS, THE OBVIOUS COASTAL
EROSION,
OCEANS, THE OBVIOUS COASTAL EROSION, UNPRECEDENTED.
IF
EROSION, UNPRECEDENTED. IF WE DO NOT ACT, FUTURE
GENERATIONS
IF WE DO NOT ACT, FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL REGRET OUR
LACK
GENERATIONS WILL REGRET OUR LACK OF ACTION.
NOW
LACK OF ACTION. NOW IS OUR MOMENT TO LEAD.
THIS
NOW IS OUR MOMENT TO LEAD. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN
ISSUE.
THIS
ISSUE. THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON SCIENCE
AND
THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE AND IF WE CAN
ACTUALLY
AND EVIDENCE AND IF WE CAN ACTUALLY FOCUS ON FACTS FOR A
CHANGE,
ACTUALLY FOCUS ON FACTS FOR A CHANGE, MAYBE WE WILL GET
SOMEWHERE
CHANGE, MAYBE WE WILL GET SOMEWHERE AND I YIELD BACK.
>>
SOMEWHERE AND I YIELD BACK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
COMMENT
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IF POSSIBLE AS ONE OF
TWO
COMMENT IF POSSIBLE AS ONE OF TWO WOMEN OF COLOR THAT IS ON
THIS
TWO WOMEN OF COLOR THAT IS ON THIS PANEL.
PARTICULARLY
THIS PANEL. PARTICULARLY BECAUSE CLIMATE
CHANGE
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO IMPACT
FRONTLINE
CHANGE IS GOING TO IMPACT FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES MORE THAN
ANY
FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ANY OTHER AND THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE
ANY OTHER AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING THE WOMEN OF COLOR
IN
ARE LEADING THE WOMEN OF COLOR IN THESE COMMUNITIES, THEIR
CHILDREN
IN THESE COMMUNITIES, THEIR CHILDREN ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
GOING
CHILDREN ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
WE
GOING TO BE IMPACTED. WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT THESE
ECOSYSTEMS
WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT THESE ECOSYSTEMS VOID OF TALKING
ABOUT
ECOSYSTEMS VOID OF TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT ON HUMAN
RIGHTS
ABOUT THE IMPACT ON HUMAN RIGHTS AND ON THE PEOPLE
AFFECTED.
MORE
AFFECTED. MORE THAN 5000 PUERTO RICANS
DIED.
THAT
DIED. THAT IS NOT NOTHING.
IT
THAT IS NOT NOTHING. IT IS NOT JUST AN ECOSYSTEM.
THAT
IT IS NOT JUST AN ECOSYSTEM. THAT WAS AN ENTIRE ISLAND THAT
WAS
THAT WAS AN ENTIRE ISLAND THAT WAS AFFECTED.
IN
WAS AFFECTED. IN THE PHILIPPINES, 10,000
FILIPINOS
IN THE PHILIPPINES, 10,000 FILIPINOS DIED.
WE
FILIPINOS DIED. WE HAVE HAD SUPER STORM SANDY
THAT
WE HAVE HAD SUPER STORM SANDY THAT AFFECTED LIFE ALL OVER NEW
YORK
THAT AFFECTED LIFE ALL OVER NEW YORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY AND
THE
YORK CITY AND NEW JERSEY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS
DESTROYED.
I
DESTROYED. I JUST REALLY DO NOT WANT TO
TALK
I JUST REALLY DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN SILOS AS IF
THE
TALK ABOUT THIS IN SILOS AS IF THE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
WHOLE
THE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHOLE COMMUNITIES AND NOW
THEY'RE
WHOLE COMMUNITIES AND NOW THEY'RE TREATING THIS ISSUE IN
A
THEY'RE TREATING THIS ISSUE IN A WAY THAT IS HOLISTIC.
IF
A WAY THAT IS HOLISTIC. IF WE DO NOT LEAD WITH HOW THIS
IS
IF WE DO NOT LEAD WITH HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE
LEAST
IS GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE LEAST RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING
CLIMATE
LEAST RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING CLIMATE CHANGE, THE PEOPLE WHO
LIVE
CLIMATE CHANGE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THEIR CARBON
FOOTPRINT,
LIVE WITHIN THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
ENGAGED
FOOTPRINT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN URBAN FORESTRY,
DOUBLING
ENGAGED IN URBAN FORESTRY, DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF OPEN
SPACE,
DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, STOPPING DECIDING OF
POWER
SPACE, STOPPING DECIDING OF POWER PLANTS, --
>>
POWER PLANTS, -- >> I AM NOT CUTTING YOU OFF.
THE
>> I AM NOT CUTTING YOU OFF. THE TIME IS UP AND WE WENT TO
STAY
THE TIME IS UP AND WE WENT TO STAY WITHIN THE PROTOCOL.
>>
STAY WITHIN THE PROTOCOL. >> I APPRECIATE IT.
>>
>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
I
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SCIENCE
AND
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE.
PROFESSOR
AND EVIDENCE. PROFESSOR CURRY, ARE WE
EXPERIENCING
PROFESSOR CURRY, ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST
TEMPERATURES
EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURES IN THE PLANETS
HISTORY?
>>
HISTORY? >> NO.
>>
>> NO. >> WHEN HAVE YOU SEEN HIGHER
TEMPERATURES?
>>
TEMPERATURES? >> A VERY LONG TIME AGO.
AT
>> A VERY LONG TIME AGO. AT LEAST IN SOME REGIONS, THEY
MAY
AT LEAST IN SOME REGIONS, THEY MAY BE EQUALLY AS HIGH, ABOUT
1000
MAY BE EQUALLY AS HIGH, ABOUT 1000 YEARS AGO, DURING THE
MEDIEVAL
1000 YEARS AGO, DURING THE MEDIEVAL PERIOD.
>>
MEDIEVAL PERIOD. >> THEY ARE LONG BEFORE THE
INDUSTRIAL
>> THEY ARE LONG BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
>>
INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. >> YES.
>>
>> YES. >> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE
HIGHEST
>> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF ATMOSPHERIC
CARBON
HIGHEST LEVELS OF ATMOSPHERIC CARBON DIOXIDE IN THE PLANETS
HISTORY?
>>
HISTORY? >> NO.
HISTORICALLY,
>> NO. HISTORICALLY, WE ARE A LITTLE
BIT
HISTORICALLY, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT ON THE LOW SIDE ACTUALLY IN
THE
BIT ON THE LOW SIDE ACTUALLY IN THE CURRENT ERA.
>>
THE CURRENT ERA. >> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE
WORST
>> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE WORST DROUGHTS IN RECORDED
HISTORY?
>>
HISTORY? >> DEFINITELY NOT.
>>
>> DEFINITELY NOT. >> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE MOST
FEROCIOUS
>> ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE MOST FEROCIOUS HURRICANES IN
RECORDED
FEROCIOUS HURRICANES IN RECORDED HISTORY?
>>
RECORDED HISTORY? >> NO.
IN
>> NO. IN RECENT HISTORY, IN THE
1950s,
IN RECENT HISTORY, IN THE 1950s, AND THE ATLANTIC, THE
HURRICANES
1950s, AND THE ATLANTIC, THE HURRICANES WERE ACTUALLY WORSE
THAN
HURRICANES WERE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN
RECENT
THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT DECADES.
>>
RECENT DECADES. >> I AM REMINDED OF A POEM BY
OGDEN
>> I AM REMINDED OF A POEM BY OGDEN WHO WROTE THE IDES WERE
BORN
OGDEN WHO WROTE THE IDES WERE BORN IN MARCH AND THE RAINS
CAME
BORN IN MARCH AND THE RAINS CAME IN NOVEMBER.
I
CAME IN NOVEMBER. I SCARCELY CAN REMEMBER BUT OUR
RECORDED
I SCARCELY CAN REMEMBER BUT OUR RECORDED HISTORY AS WELL AS OUR
CLIMATOLOGY
RECORDED HISTORY AS WELL AS OUR CLIMATOLOGY INFORMS US THAT
THERE
CLIMATOLOGY INFORMS US THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PERIODS WHERE
CARBON
THERE HAVE BEEN PERIODS WHERE CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS HAVE BEEN
MUCH
CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER THAN THEY ARE
TODAY.
AMATEURS
TODAY. AMATEURS HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER
AND
AMATEURS HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER AND LOWER THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
AND
AND LOWER THAN THEY ARE TODAY. AND LONG BEFORE SIGNIFICANT
CARBON
AND LONG BEFORE SIGNIFICANT CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS OF
HUMAN
CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS OF HUMAN CIVILIZATIONS.
IS
HUMAN CIVILIZATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT?
>>
IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES.
>>
>> YES. >> A STUDY PUBLISHED WAS A FEW
YEARS
>> A STUDY PUBLISHED WAS A FEW YEARS AGO NOTED THAT COLD
WEATHER
YEARS AGO NOTED THAT COLD WEATHER KILLED FAR MORE PEOPLE
THE
WEATHER KILLED FAR MORE PEOPLE THE AND WARM WEATHER.
WHAT
THE AND WARM WEATHER. WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE GREATER
THREAT?
>>
THREAT? >> OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE
LOCATION
>> OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION BUT I THINK THE
STATISTICS
LOCATION BUT I THINK THE STATISTICS OVERALL ACROSS A
WIDE
STATISTICS OVERALL ACROSS A WIDE VARIETY OF LOCATIONS TO
SUPPORT
WIDE VARIETY OF LOCATIONS TO SUPPORT THAT COLD WEATHER KILLS
MORE
SUPPORT THAT COLD WEATHER KILLS MORE THAN HOT WEATHER.
>>
MORE THAN HOT WEATHER. >> DURING THE RECENT COLD WAVE,
THOSE
>> DURING THE RECENT COLD WAVE, THOSE STATES THAT RELIED
EXCESSIVELY
THOSE STATES THAT RELIED EXCESSIVELY ON WIND AND SOLAR
SOLAR
EXCESSIVELY ON WIND AND SOLAR SOLAR ELECTRICITY OUTAGES.
WOULD
SOLAR ELECTRICITY OUTAGES. WOULD YOU SEE THE GREATEST
SINGLE
WOULD YOU SEE THE GREATEST SINGLE THREAT IN EXTREME
WEATHER
SINGLE THREAT IN EXTREME WEATHER EITHER HOT OR COLD IS A
LACK
WEATHER EITHER HOT OR COLD IS A LACK OF ELECTRICITY?
>>
LACK OF ELECTRICITY? >> YES.
EVEN
>> YES. EVEN DURING HURRICANES.
WHAT
EVEN DURING HURRICANES. WHAT KILLS A LOT OF PEOPLE IS
THE
WHAT KILLS A LOT OF PEOPLE IS THE LACK OF ELECTRICITY WHICH
HAS
THE LACK OF ELECTRICITY WHICH HAS ALL SORTS OF TRICKLE-DOWN
EFFECTS
HAS ALL SORTS OF TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECTS ON OTHER THINGS THAT
ARE
EFFECTS ON OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO SAVE LIVES.
>>
ARE NEEDED TO SAVE LIVES. >> HOW DOES AN OVER RELIANCE ON
WIND
>> HOW DOES AN OVER RELIANCE ON WIND AND SOLAR GENERATION
AFFECT
WIND AND SOLAR GENERATION AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE
ABUNDANT
AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE ABUNDANT RELIABLE AND
AFFORDABLE
ABUNDANT RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY?
>>
AFFORDABLE ELECTRICITY? >> IT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT
NATURAL
>> IT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT NATURAL GAS.
NATURAL
NATURAL GAS. NATURAL GAS IS THE PERFECT
PARTNER
NATURAL GAS IS THE PERFECT PARTNER FOR WIND AND SOLAR
BECAUSE
PARTNER FOR WIND AND SOLAR BECAUSE OF THE INTERMITTENCY,
BECAUSE
BECAUSE OF THE INTERMITTENCY, BECAUSE YOU CAN FIRE UP A GAS
BURNER
BECAUSE YOU CAN FIRE UP A GAS BURNER AND FIRE IT BACK DOWN
AND
BURNER AND FIRE IT BACK DOWN AND ENERGY TRADINGS, NATURAL
GAS
AND ENERGY TRADINGS, NATURAL GAS TRADING IS WHAT HAS I THINK
STABILIZED
GAS TRADING IS WHAT HAS I THINK STABILIZED THE PRICE OF NATURAL
GAS
STABILIZED THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS THAT ACTUALLY HELPS MAKE
THE
GAS THAT ACTUALLY HELPS MAKE THE WIND AND SOLAR BE
AFFORDABLE.
SO
AFFORDABLE. SO UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THERE IS
ADVANCED
SO UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THERE IS ADVANCED STORAGE TECHNOLOGIES,
WE
ADVANCED STORAGE TECHNOLOGIES, WE ARE GOING TO RELY ON NATURAL
GAS
WE ARE GOING TO RELY ON NATURAL GAS AS A PARTNER.
>>
GAS AS A PARTNER. >> LET ME GET TO THAT IF I CAN.
MR.
>> LET ME GET TO THAT IF I CAN. MR. HOLLY, WE HEARD EARLIER
FROM
MR. HOLLY, WE HEARD EARLIER FROM THE GOVERNOR OF
MASSACHUSETTS
FROM THE GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS ABOUT ALL OF
THEIR
MASSACHUSETTS ABOUT ALL OF THEIR GREEN ENERGY POLICIES AND
ALSO
THEIR GREEN ENERGY POLICIES AND ALSO THE GOVERNOR OF SOUTH
CAROLINA.
MY
CAROLINA. MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS
ADOPTED
MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS ADOPTED EVEN MORE RADICAL
POLICIES.
THEY
POLICIES. THEY SAY THEY ARE HOPING --
HELPING
THEY SAY THEY ARE HOPING -- HELPING THE POOR.
IN
HELPING THE POOR. IN MASSACHUSETTS, THOSE
POLICIES
IN MASSACHUSETTS, THOSE POLICIES HAVE PRODUCED THE 11th
HIGHEST
POLICIES HAVE PRODUCED THE 11th HIGHEST GASOLINE PRICES IN THE
COUNTRY.
CALIFORNIA
COUNTRY. CALIFORNIA NOW HAS AS A RESULT
OF
CALIFORNIA NOW HAS AS A RESULT OF THESE POLICIES THE SECOND
HIGHEST
OF THESE POLICIES THE SECOND HIGHEST GASOLINE PRICES IN THE
COUNTRY.
HIGHEST GASOLINE PRICES IN THE COUNTRY. MASSACHUSETTS AND
CALIFORNIA
COUNTRY. MASSACHUSETTS AND CALIFORNIA ARE TIED FOR THE
SIXTH
CALIFORNIA ARE TIED FOR THE SIXTH HIGHEST ELECTRICITY
PRICES
SIXTH HIGHEST ELECTRICITY PRICES IN THE COUNTRY.
HOW
PRICES IN THE COUNTRY. HOW ARE POOR PEOPLE HELPED BY
PAYING
HOW ARE POOR PEOPLE HELPED BY PAYING NEEDLESSLY SKYHIGH
PRICES
PAYING NEEDLESSLY SKYHIGH PRICES FOR GASOLINE AND
ELECTRICITY?
>>
ELECTRICITY? >> I DO NOT HAVE A RESEARCH.
I
>> I DO NOT HAVE A RESEARCH. I ONLY HAVE MY ANECDOTAL
RESEARCH
I ONLY HAVE MY ANECDOTAL RESEARCH WHEN I SPEAK TO THE
THOUSANDS
RESEARCH WHEN I SPEAK TO THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE I SPEAK TO
WHO
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE I SPEAK TO WHO STRUGGLE EVERY SINGLE DAY
TO
WHO STRUGGLE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO PAY THEIR ELECTRIC BILL.
THE
TO PAY THEIR ELECTRIC BILL. THE ONE THING THEY TALK ABOUT
IS
THE ONE THING THEY TALK ABOUT IS JUST THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE
RELIABLE
IS JUST THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE RELIABLE ENERGY THAT WE HAVE
HERE
RELIABLE ENERGY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY.
IF
HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO
REDUCE
IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO REDUCE THE REGULATIONS THAT
ALLOW
REDUCE THE REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE ACCESS TO THAT
ENERGY,
ALLOW PEOPLE ACCESS TO THAT ENERGY, I THINK IT WOULD GO A
LONG
ENERGY, I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING THEM TO
REDUCE
LONG WAY IN HELPING THEM TO REDUCE THE COST OF ENERGY.
>>
REDUCE THE COST OF ENERGY. >> DOCTOR CURRY, THERE ARE
CONTAMINANTS
>> DOCTOR CURRY, THERE ARE CONTAMINANTS AND SIX TIMES THE
CARBON
CONTAMINANTS AND SIX TIMES THE CARBON CONTENT AMIDST --
DOESN'T
CARBON CONTENT AMIDST -- DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ADD MORE
HIGHWAY
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ADD MORE HIGHWAY EFFICIENCY TO RESOLVE
OUR
HIGHWAY EFFICIENCY TO RESOLVE OUR CHRONIC TRAFFIC EDITION IF
CARBON
OUR CHRONIC TRAFFIC EDITION IF CARBON EMISSIONS ARE THE GOAL
OF
CARBON EMISSIONS ARE THE GOAL OF REDUCING?
>>
OF REDUCING? >> A TRANSPORTATION POLICY IS
MUCH
>> A TRANSPORTATION POLICY IS MUCH TOUGHER TO FIGURE OUT THEN
POWER
MUCH TOUGHER TO FIGURE OUT THEN POWER PRODUCTION.
IT
POWER PRODUCTION. IT IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE AND
WE
IT IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE AND WE NEED TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
US
WE NEED TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US RE-ENVISION WHAT THAT SHOULD
BE
US RE-ENVISION WHAT THAT SHOULD BE FOR THE 21st CENTURY RATHER
THAN
BE FOR THE 21st CENTURY RATHER THAN ADDING PATCHES TO OUR
CURRENT
THAN ADDING PATCHES TO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM.
>>
CURRENT SYSTEM. >> IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO
>> IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STORE LESS MOISTURE IN THE
MOUNTAINS
TO STORE LESS MOISTURE IN THE MOUNTAINS AS SNOW, DOES IT MAKE
SENSE
MOUNTAINS AS SNOW, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO BUILD MORE DAMS SO
THAT
SENSE TO BUILD MORE DAMS SO THAT WE CAN STORE SURPLUS WATER
FROM
THAT WE CAN STORE SURPLUS WATER FROM WHAT YEARS SO THAT WE HAVE
IT
FROM WHAT YEARS SO THAT WE HAVE IT IN DRY YEARS?
>>
IT IN DRY YEARS? >> IT CERTAINLY DOES.
WATER
>> IT CERTAINLY DOES. WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IS A
BIG
WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IS A BIG ISSUE.
THERE
BIG ISSUE. THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL
CHALLENGES
THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH DAMS
AND
CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH DAMS AND RESERVOIRS ALSO.
IT
AND RESERVOIRS ALSO. IT NEEDS A LOT OF PLANNING TO
MAKE
IT NEEDS A LOT OF PLANNING TO MAKE ALL OF THIS DO WHAT YOU
REALLY
MAKE ALL OF THIS DO WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED TO DO.
>>
REALLY WANTED TO DO. >> THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
WELCOME
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU AND THANK
YOU
WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO
BE
YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO BE WITH US TODAY.
I
BE WITH US TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU AND MY
COLLEAGUES
OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU AND MY COLLEAGUES FOR ENTRUSTING ME
WITH
COLLEAGUES FOR ENTRUSTING ME WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF
THE
WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE VICE CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE
THE VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR SHIP
FOR
COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR SHIP FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON
NATIONAL
FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, FORESTS, AND
PUBLIC
NATIONAL PARKS, FORESTS, AND PUBLIC LANDS.
I
PUBLIC LANDS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
YOU
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND MY COLLEAGUES TO
PROTECT
YOU AND MY COLLEAGUES TO PROTECT OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND TO
MEET
PROTECT OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS TO OUR
INDIGENOUS
MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS TO OUR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.
TO
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES. TO THAT POINT, THIS HEARING IS
IMPORTANT
TO THAT POINT, THIS HEARING IS IMPORTANT AND AN APPROPRIATE
PLACE
IMPORTANT AND AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO BEGIN THIS CONGRESS.
AS
PLACE TO BEGIN THIS CONGRESS. AS WE HEARD FROM ALL OF OUR
WITNESSES,
AS WE HEARD FROM ALL OF OUR WITNESSES, CLIMATE CHANGE POSES
AN
WITNESSES, CLIMATE CHANGE POSES AN UNPRECEDENTED THREAT TO OUR
COMMUNITIES
AN UNPRECEDENTED THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR
ENVIRONMENTS.
LAST
ENVIRONMENTS. LAST YEAR, IN MY STATE OF NEW
MEXICO,
LAST YEAR, IN MY STATE OF NEW MEXICO, THE PARKS FIRE BURNED
TENS
MEXICO, THE PARKS FIRE BURNED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES
WHILE
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES WHILE THE CITY OF SANTA FE
EXPERIENCED
WHILE THE CITY OF SANTA FE EXPERIENCED ONCE IN 1000 YEAR
FLOOD.
MEANWHILE,
FLOOD. MEANWHILE, A VAST METHANE CLOUD
HOVERS
MEANWHILE, A VAST METHANE CLOUD HOVERS OVER THE NORTHWEST
CORNER
HOVERS OVER THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NEW MEXICO, AND THIS
ADMINISTRATION
CORNER OF NEW MEXICO, AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED TO
WEAKEN
ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED TO WEAKEN THE RULES ON METHANE
ADMISSIONS
WEAKEN THE RULES ON METHANE ADMISSIONS FROM OIL AND GAS
OPERATIONS.
METHANE
OPERATIONS. METHANE IS MORE THAN 80 TIMES
MORE
METHANE IS MORE THAN 80 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN CARBON
DIOXIDE
MORE POWERFUL THAN CARBON DIOXIDE AT TRAPPING HEAT AND IS
RESPONSIBLE
DIOXIDE AT TRAPPING HEAT AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT A QUARTER
OF
RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE WARMING WE ARE
EXPERIENCING
OF THE WARMING WE ARE EXPERIENCING TODAY.
NEARBY,
EXPERIENCING TODAY. NEARBY, IN ARIZONA, HURRICANE
ROSA
NEARBY, IN ARIZONA, HURRICANE ROSA INDICATED THE NATION
NEARLY
ROSA INDICATED THE NATION NEARLY OVERTOPPING THEIR DAMS,
TRAPPING
NEARLY OVERTOPPING THEIR DAMS, TRAPPING RESIDENTS BEHIND
IMPASSABLE
TRAPPING RESIDENTS BEHIND IMPASSABLE ROADS AND FORCING
EVACUATIONS.
HURRICANES
EVACUATIONS. HURRICANES HAVE ALMOST NEVER
REACHED
HURRICANES HAVE ALMOST NEVER REACHED THIS PART OF ARIZONA
BEFORE.
CLIMATE
BEFORE. CLIMATE CHANGE HAS FORCED US TO
LIVE
CLIMATE CHANGE HAS FORCED US TO LIVE IN A NEW NORMAL IN WHICH
FIRES
LIVE IN A NEW NORMAL IN WHICH FIRES AND FLOODS, DROUGHTS AND
HURRICANES
FIRES AND FLOODS, DROUGHTS AND HURRICANES WRECK OUR
COMMUNITIES
HURRICANES WRECK OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR NATURAL
HERITAGE
COMMUNITIES AND OUR NATURAL HERITAGE AND IT IS NOW TIME FOR
US
HERITAGE AND IT IS NOW TIME FOR US TO ACT.
I
US TO ACT. I FIRST WOULD LIKE TO JUST
THANK
I FIRST WOULD LIKE TO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT
AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR SACRIFICE TO THE
THINGS
AND YOUR SACRIFICE TO THE THINGS YOU BELIEVE IN.
I
THINGS YOU BELIEVE IN. I ALMOST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO
YOU
I ALMOST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND THE YOUTH OF THIS WORLD
WHO
YOU AND THE YOUTH OF THIS WORLD WHO GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT
WORRYING
WHO GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT WORRYING ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN
TO
WORRYING ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF
CLIMATE
TO OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
I
CLIMATE CHANGE. I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR
PRESENCE
I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR PRESENCE HERE MEANS A GREAT
DEAL
PRESENCE HERE MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO ME AND TO MANY OF US SO
THANK
DEAL TO ME AND TO MANY OF US SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS -- I THINK YOU ARE BEST
EQUIPPED
MISS -- I THINK YOU ARE BEST EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THIS
QUESTION
EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION SO I WILL ASK IT TO
YOU.
RIGHT
YOU. RIGHT NOW, THE EPA AND INTERIOR
DEPARTMENT
RIGHT NOW, THE EPA AND INTERIOR DEPARTMENT ARE RUN BY FORMER
LOBBYIST
DEPARTMENT ARE RUN BY FORMER LOBBYIST FOR COAL AND OIL
COMPANIES.
THE
COMPANIES. THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED
LAST
THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED LAST YEAR THAT A CALL NINE IT
WAS
LAST YEAR THAT A CALL NINE IT WAS ESSENTIALLY GETTING HIS
ENTIRE
WAS ESSENTIALLY GETTING HIS ENTIRE WISH LIST OF ENERGY
DEREGULATION'S
ENTIRE WISH LIST OF ENERGY DEREGULATION'S APPROVED BY THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
WHAT
ADMINISTRATION. WHAT ROLE DO YOU BELIEVE THIS
CORPORATE
WHAT ROLE DO YOU BELIEVE THIS CORPORATE CAPTURE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION
CORPORATE CAPTURE OF THE ADMINISTRATION WILL PLAY IN
BEING
ADMINISTRATION WILL PLAY IN BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
CLIMATE
BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS?
>>
CLIMATE CRISIS? >> I THINK THAT THE
DEREGULATION
>> I THINK THAT THE DEREGULATION -- THE CLIMATE
CRISIS
DEREGULATION -- THE CLIMATE CRISIS PARTICULARLY IN FRONT-
LINE
CRISIS PARTICULARLY IN FRONT- LINE COMMUNITIES AND INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES,
LINE COMMUNITIES AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE FROM NEW
MEXICO
COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE FROM NEW MEXICO WHERE YOU HAVE GOT
NUCLEAR
MEXICO WHERE YOU HAVE GOT NUCLEAR ENERGY AND URANIUM IN
THE
NUCLEAR ENERGY AND URANIUM IN THE LUNGS AND IN THE WATER.
IT
THE LUNGS AND IN THE WATER. IT IS AFFECTING 60 NATIONS AND
TRIBES.
THE
TRIBES. THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING
MADE
THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE TO SUPPORT AN OLD-SCHOOL
WAY
MADE TO SUPPORT AN OLD-SCHOOL WAY OF THINKING ABOUT ENERGY
ARE
WAY OF THINKING ABOUT ENERGY ARE REALLY RACING US TOWARDS
EXTREME
ARE REALLY RACING US TOWARDS EXTREME CATASTROPHIC EVENTS.
THE
EXTREME CATASTROPHIC EVENTS. THE TRUTH IS THAT EVEN IN
PLACES
THE TRUTH IS THAT EVEN IN PLACES LIKE KENTUCKY, PEOPLE
ARE
PLACES LIKE KENTUCKY, PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM COAL.
ONE
ARE MOVING AWAY FROM COAL. ONE OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS WHICH
IS
ONE OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS WHICH IS WITH THE CLIMATE JUSTICE
ALLIANCE,
IS WITH THE CLIMATE JUSTICE ALLIANCE, KENTUCKY AND FOR THE
COMMONWEALTH,
ALLIANCE, KENTUCKY AND FOR THE COMMONWEALTH, WORKING AT
OPERATIONALIZING
COMMONWEALTH, WORKING AT OPERATIONALIZING JUST
TRANSITIONS
OPERATIONALIZING JUST TRANSITIONS THAT MOVE PEOPLE
AWAY
TRANSITIONS THAT MOVE PEOPLE AWAY FROM HAVING TO DEPEND ON
AN
AWAY FROM HAVING TO DEPEND ON AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT HAS
DESTROYED
AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT HAS DESTROYED THEIR LIVES AND
LIMITED
DESTROYED THEIR LIVES AND LIMITED THEIR LIVABILITY.
SO
LIMITED THEIR LIVABILITY. SO WHILE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES
ARE
SO WHILE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THAT, YOU HAVE GOT AN
EPA
ARE DOING THAT, YOU HAVE GOT AN EPA THAT IS RACING TOWARDS,
MOVING
EPA THAT IS RACING TOWARDS, MOVING POLICIES THAT ARE
BASICALLY
MOVING POLICIES THAT ARE BASICALLY TAKING US BACK IN
TIME.
SO
TIME. SO IT IS REALLY DANGEROUS, AND
IT
SO IT IS REALLY DANGEROUS, AND IT IS A CONTRIBUTION TO
ACTUALLY
IT IS A CONTRIBUTION TO ACTUALLY MAKING US LOOK LIKE
THE
ACTUALLY MAKING US LOOK LIKE THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW.
IT
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS OLD-
SCHOOL
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS OLD- SCHOOL DATED WAY OF THINKING
ABOUT
SCHOOL DATED WAY OF THINKING ABOUT HOW WE BASICALLY CONSUME
AND
ABOUT HOW WE BASICALLY CONSUME AND USE ENERGY IS REALLY
CREATING
AND USE ENERGY IS REALLY CREATING MORE PROBLEMS FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES.
I
COMMUNITIES. I THINK THAT HONESTLY, PEOPLE
IN
I THINK THAT HONESTLY, PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD
ARE
IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD ARE WAY AHEAD OF US AND THAT
THE
ARE WAY AHEAD OF US AND THAT THE UNITED STATES IS REALLY
LOOKING
THE UNITED STATES IS REALLY LOOKING LIKE THIS CLUNKY OLD-
SCHOOL
LOOKING LIKE THIS CLUNKY OLD- SCHOOL MACHINE THAT CANNOT KEEP
UP
SCHOOL MACHINE THAT CANNOT KEEP UP NOT ONLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY
BUT
UP NOT ONLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY BUT THE SCIENCE.
SO
BUT THE SCIENCE. SO IT IS FRIGHTENING.
EPA
SO IT IS FRIGHTENING. EPA HAS ALWAYS HAD PEOPLE IN
THEIR
EPA HAS ALWAYS HAD PEOPLE IN THEIR THAT ARE IN THE POCKETS
OF
THEIR THAT ARE IN THE POCKETS OF THE LOBBYISTS.
REALLY
OF THE LOBBYISTS. REALLY SLOWING DOWN THE COG AND
MAKING
REALLY SLOWING DOWN THE COG AND MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO
MOVE
MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO MOVE AS FAST AS THE CLIMATE IS
CHANGING.
SO
CHANGING. SO NOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS
REALLY
SO NOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS REALLY DANGEROUS.
THAT
REALLY DANGEROUS. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD
CONTRIBUTES.
>>
CONTRIBUTES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
MR.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE INTEREST
OF
MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL SUBMIT OTHER
QUESTIONS
OF TIME, I WILL SUBMIT OTHER QUESTIONS IN WRITING.
>>
QUESTIONS IN WRITING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND
THANK
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU ALL FOR TESTIFYING
TODAY
THANK YOU ALL FOR TESTIFYING TODAY AS EXPERT WITNESSES ON
CLIMATE
TODAY AS EXPERT WITNESSES ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
EACH
CLIMATE CHANGE. EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN YOUR
CAREERS
EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN YOUR CAREERS INVOLVING CLIMATE
POLICY
CAREERS INVOLVING CLIMATE POLICY AND HAS HELPED TO
GENERATE
POLICY AND HAS HELPED TO GENERATE VARIOUS SOLUTIONS TO
THE
GENERATE VARIOUS SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
MR.
THE PROBLEM OF CLIMATE CHANGE. MR. HOLLY, YOUR WORK TO REDUCE
ENERGY,
MR. HOLLY, YOUR WORK TO REDUCE ENERGY, POVERTY THAT HAS BEEN
TRULY
ENERGY, POVERTY THAT HAS BEEN TRULY REMARKABLE AND IN YOUR
TESTIMONY
TRULY REMARKABLE AND IN YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY, IT REFLECTS
WERE
TESTIMONY TODAY, IT REFLECTS WERE WELL-VERSED STANCES ON
CLIMATE
WERE WELL-VERSED STANCES ON CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES ONE PART
OF
CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES ONE PART OF YOUR TESTIMONY THAT
INTERESTED
OF YOUR TESTIMONY THAT INTERESTED ME A LOT WAS WHERE
YOU
INTERESTED ME A LOT WAS WHERE YOU WROTE THE GOVERNMENT
REQUIRES
YOU WROTE THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES QUOTE THE GOVERNMENT
REQUIRES
REQUIRES QUOTE THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES AND BY MENTAL IMPACT
STUDIES
REQUIRES AND BY MENTAL IMPACT STUDIES TO ESTIMATE THE EFFECTS
OF
STUDIES TO ESTIMATE THE EFFECTS OF PROJECTS LIKE ROADS AND
BUILDINGS
OF PROJECTS LIKE ROADS AND BUILDINGS ON NATURE.
SHOULD
BUILDINGS ON NATURE. SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT ACT
SIMILARLY
SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT ACT SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW
REGULATIONS
SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW REGULATIONS IMPACTED THE
POPULATION
REGULATIONS IMPACTED THE POPULATION END QUOTE.
WOULD
POPULATION END QUOTE. WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU THAT WE
TRY
WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU THAT WE TRY TO PUT THAT INTO A ROLE
LAST
TRY TO PUT THAT INTO A ROLE LAST WEEK AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN
BY
LAST WEEK AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN BY OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE
AISLE?
WE
AISLE? WE WOULD EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF
OUR
WE WOULD EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF OUR POLICIES ON COST-BENEFIT
ANALYSIS.
>>
ANALYSIS. >> SURE.
I
>> SURE. I DID NOT KNOW THAT SIR.
>>
I DID NOT KNOW THAT SIR. >> THANK YOU.
DOCTOR
>> THANK YOU. DOCTOR CURRY, YOUR TESTIMONY
REFLECTS
DOCTOR CURRY, YOUR TESTIMONY REFLECTS YOUR WEALTH OF
KNOWLEDGE
REFLECTS YOUR WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE ON THESE ISSUES AND
GIVES
KNOWLEDGE ON THESE ISSUES AND GIVES GREAT INSIGHT TO THE
CLIMATE
GIVES GREAT INSIGHT TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE DEBATE IN
PARTICULAR
CLIMATE CHANGE DEBATE IN PARTICULAR YOUR DISCUSSION OF
THE
PARTICULAR YOUR DISCUSSION OF THE INCREASING CONCERN YOU HAD
THAT
THE INCREASING CONCERN YOU HAD THAT THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM
HAS
THAT THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM HAS BEEN OVERSIMPLIFIED.
I
HAS BEEN OVERSIMPLIFIED. I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT AS
I
I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT AS I FEEL THAT AN OVERLY SIMPLE
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL,
I FEEL THAT AN OVERLY SIMPLE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL, WE ARE
SMARTER
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL, WE ARE SMARTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE AND
WASHINGTON
SMARTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE AND WASHINGTON DC, AS WE HURT OUR
OPENING
WASHINGTON DC, AS WE HURT OUR OPENING STATEMENTS TODAY FROM
OUR
OPENING STATEMENTS TODAY FROM OUR RANKING MEMBER, APPROACHED
THE
OUR RANKING MEMBER, APPROACHED THE CLIMATE CHANGE SHOULD LEAD
TO
THE CLIMATE CHANGE SHOULD LEAD TO SERIOUS ISSUES.
WHAT
TO SERIOUS ISSUES. WHAT MAY WORK FOR ONE STATE MAY
NOT
WHAT MAY WORK FOR ONE STATE MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER.
WOULD
NOT WORK FOR ANOTHER. WOULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON
THE
WOULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON THE PROBLEMS THAT INEXPENSIVE
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL
THE PROBLEMS THAT INEXPENSIVE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL TOP-DOWN, TOP-
DOWN
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL TOP-DOWN, TOP- DOWN SOLUTION MIGHT CAUSE IF
IMPLEMENTED?
>>
IMPLEMENTED? >> A WHOLE HOST OF UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES
>> A WHOLE HOST OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHICH, SOME OF
WHICH
CONSEQUENCES WHICH, SOME OF WHICH YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE
RIGHT
WHICH YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE
RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO
AVOID
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO AVOID THE HUBRIS OF THINKING
THAT
AVOID THE HUBRIS OF THINKING THAT WE CAN PREDICT WHAT THE
FUTURE
THAT WE CAN PREDICT WHAT THE FUTURE CLIMATE WILL DO AND THAT
WE
FUTURE CLIMATE WILL DO AND THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL THE
CLIMATE.
I
CLIMATE. I THINK IF WE WERE SOMEHOW
SUCCESSFUL
I THINK IF WE WERE SOMEHOW SUCCESSFUL IN PUTTING ALL OF
THESE
SUCCESSFUL IN PUTTING ALL OF THESE POLICIES INTO PLACE AND
GETTING
THESE POLICIES INTO PLACE AND GETTING CO2 EMISSIONS DOWN TO
ZERO,
GETTING CO2 EMISSIONS DOWN TO ZERO, I THINK WE WOULD BE ON
PRESENTLY,
ZERO, I THINK WE WOULD BE ON PRESENTLY, UNPLEASANTLY
SURPRISED
PRESENTLY, UNPLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT HOW LITTLE IMPACT
ON
SURPRISED AT HOW LITTLE IMPACT ON THE THINGS THAT WORRY US
MOST
ON THE THINGS THAT WORRY US MOST ABOUT EXTREME WEATHER
EVENTS
MOST ABOUT EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SEA
EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SEA LEVEL RISE, WE ARE NOT
GOING
SEA LEVEL RISE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TURN THAT ONE ON A
DIME,
GOING TO TURN THAT ONE ON A DIME, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT
DIME, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS VERY TOUGH TO CHANGE
CLIMATE.
THERE
CLIMATE. THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF INERTIA
IN
THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF INERTIA IN THE SYSTEM.
MANY
IN THE SYSTEM. MANY TIMESCALES, THEY RESPOND
VERY
MANY TIMESCALES, THEY RESPOND VERY SLOWLY.
EVEN
VERY SLOWLY. EVEN WITH SUCCESS IN REDUCING
CO2
EVEN WITH SUCCESS IN REDUCING CO2 EMISSIONS DOWN TO ZERO, IT
WOULD
CO2 EMISSIONS DOWN TO ZERO, IT WOULD BE A LONG TIME TO TURN
THE
WOULD BE A LONG TIME TO TURN THE CORNER ON HAVING THAT
ACTUALLY
THE CORNER ON HAVING THAT ACTUALLY IMPACT THE CLIMATE.
SO
ACTUALLY IMPACT THE CLIMATE. SO WE NEED TO DO SOME OF THE
MORE
SO WE NEED TO DO SOME OF THE MORE BOTTOM-UP TYPE THINGS, AND
THE
MORE BOTTOM-UP TYPE THINGS, AND THE STATES ARE WONDERFUL
LABORATORIES
THE STATES ARE WONDERFUL LABORATORIES FOR TRYING OUT ALL
OF
LABORATORIES FOR TRYING OUT ALL OF THESE ADAPTATION RESILIENCE
KIND
OF THESE ADAPTATION RESILIENCE KIND OF POLICIES.
I
KIND OF POLICIES. I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO FIGURE
OUT
I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THAT FLOORS.
THE
OUT HOW TO HELP THAT FLOORS. THE SO-CALLED INNOVATION
DIVIDEND.
>>
DIVIDEND. >> SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP,
LAST
>> SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, LAST WEEK I HAD THE FORTUNATE
OPPORTUNITY,
LAST WEEK I HAD THE FORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY, WE HAD AN
ORGANIZATION
OPPORTUNITY, WE HAD AN ORGANIZATION CALLED GRAND RIVER
DAM
ORGANIZATION CALLED GRAND RIVER DAM AUTHORITY THAT IS A PUBLIC
PARTNERSHIP
DAM AUTHORITY THAT IS A PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP IN OUR STATE OF
OKLAHOMA
PARTNERSHIP IN OUR STATE OF OKLAHOMA THAT HAS BEEN AROUND
SINCE
OKLAHOMA THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 30s.
THAT
SINCE THE 30s. THAT WAS FORMED ORIGINALLY BY
THE
THAT WAS FORMED ORIGINALLY BY THE GOVERNMENT TO BUILD SOME
DAMS
THE GOVERNMENT TO BUILD SOME DAMS TO LOCK UP ENERGY SO WE
COULD
DAMS TO LOCK UP ENERGY SO WE COULD USE THAT TO HANDLE
FLOODING
COULD USE THAT TO HANDLE FLOODING ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER
FOR
FLOODING ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER FOR THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM IN
THE
FOR THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM IN THE 1960S.
WE
THE 1960S. WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR INDUSTRIAL
PARK
WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK AND PRIOR OKLAHOMA, THE
LARGEST
PARK AND PRIOR OKLAHOMA, THE LARGEST GOOGLE SERVER FARM IN
THE
LARGEST GOOGLE SERVER FARM IN THE COMPANY.
IT
THE COMPANY. IT RELOCATED THERE TO TAKE OVER
A
IT RELOCATED THERE TO TAKE OVER A GATORADE PLANT WITH THE
QUALIFICATION
A GATORADE PLANT WITH THE QUALIFICATION THAT THAT THEY
WERE
QUALIFICATION THAT THAT THEY WERE ONLY -- THEY WOULD ONLY
USE
WERE ONLY -- THEY WOULD ONLY USE RENEWABLE POWER.
WE
USE RENEWABLE POWER. WE HAD A CONSCIOUS DECISION
EVEN
WE HAD A CONSCIOUS DECISION EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN MY
DISTRICT,
EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT, TO MAKE ON FREE
MARKET
DISTRICT, TO MAKE ON FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE.
DO
MARKET ENTERPRISE. DO WE WANT THAT THEY ARE?
WE
DO WE WANT THAT THEY ARE? WE WANT TO GO TO THE COST OF
UPGRADING
WE WANT TO GO TO THE COST OF UPGRADING THE GRID AND
TECHNOLOGY
UPGRADING THE GRID AND TECHNOLOGY TO CONFORM TO THE
PURCHASE
TECHNOLOGY TO CONFORM TO THE PURCHASE OF GOOGLE'S 100
MEGAWATTS
PURCHASE OF GOOGLE'S 100 MEGAWATTS OF REX?
WE
MEGAWATTS OF REX? WE FELT THAT THE COST-BENEFIT
ANALYSIS
WE FELT THAT THE COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THAT MADE SENSE.
IT
ANALYSIS OF THAT MADE SENSE. IT WAS A SMALL PLANT AT THAT
TIME.
IT
TIME. IT HAS SINCE QUADRUPLED IN SIZE
AND
IT HAS SINCE QUADRUPLED IN SIZE AND FROM ALL THE GOOGLE PEOPLE
I
AND FROM ALL THE GOOGLE PEOPLE I HAVE TALKED TO, THEY ARE SO
PROUD
I HAVE TALKED TO, THEY ARE SO PROUD OF THE RELATIONSHIP IN A
FREE
PROUD OF THE RELATIONSHIP IN A FREE MARKET ENVIRONMENT,
WORKING
FREE MARKET ENVIRONMENT, WORKING WITH RENEWABLE CREDITS
TO
WORKING WITH RENEWABLE CREDITS TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE AT SO
THERE
TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE AT SO THERE ON THE GRID.
GRD
THERE ON THE GRID. GRD A HAS A GREAT MIXTURE OF
HYDRO,
GRD A HAS A GREAT MIXTURE OF HYDRO, SOLAR, WIND, COAL AND
NATURAL
HYDRO, SOLAR, WIND, COAL AND NATURAL GAS TO THE TESTIMONY
FROM
NATURAL GAS TO THE TESTIMONY FROM MR. HOLLY EARLIER, YOU
HAVE
FROM MR. HOLLY EARLIER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BACKUPS ON THIS SO
THAT
HAVE TO HAVE BACKUPS ON THIS SO THAT THE COST OF HAVING A
BATTERY
THAT THE COST OF HAVING A BATTERY TOP ENVIRONMENT WHEN
YOU
BATTERY TOP ENVIRONMENT WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE SOLAR, YOU DO
NOT
YOU DO NOT HAVE SOLAR, YOU DO NOT HAVE WIND, THAT YOU CAN
ACTUALLY
NOT HAVE WIND, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE POWER TO FUEL AND
TO
ACTUALLY HAVE POWER TO FUEL AND TO WARM OUR HOMES AND
BUSINESSES
TO WARM OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES AROUND OUR
PARTICULAR
BUSINESSES AROUND OUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND OUR
STATES
PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND OUR STATES AND OUR COUNTRY.
TAKE
STATES AND OUR COUNTRY. TAKE YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR
TESTIMONY.
I
TESTIMONY. I GIVE UP MY TIME.
>>
I GIVE UP MY TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
ON
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE MOST RECENT ISSUE FACING
OUR
ON THE MOST RECENT ISSUE FACING OUR PLANET, CLIMATE CHANGE.
I
OUR PLANET, CLIMATE CHANGE. I WANT TO THANK THE PANELISTS
FOR
I WANT TO THANK THE PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE.
I
FOR BEING HERE. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE MY GOOD
FRIEND
I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE MY GOOD FRIEND HERE TODAY.
REVERENT,
FRIEND HERE TODAY. REVERENT, I HAVE ENJOYED
WORKING
REVERENT, I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU IN THE PAST.
>>
WORKING WITH YOU IN THE PAST. >> THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH
YOU
>> I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AND
I
YOU OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED
PARTNERSHIP.
I
PARTNERSHIP. I WANT TO START WITH YOU.
AMAZINGLY,
I WANT TO START WITH YOU. AMAZINGLY, IT HAS BEEN
ARTICULATED
AMAZINGLY, IT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED TODAY THAT THERE IS
A
ARTICULATED TODAY THAT THERE IS A MISTAKEN IDEA THAT MOVING
TOWARDS
A MISTAKEN IDEA THAT MOVING TOWARDS A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY
WILL
TOWARDS A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY WILL HURT LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES
WILL HURT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
I
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I NEED YOU TO SPEAK TO WHAT THE
RISING
I NEED YOU TO SPEAK TO WHAT THE RISING HEALTH AND ECONOMIC COST
OF
RISING HEALTH AND ECONOMIC COST OF CLIMATE CHANGE WOULD BE FOR
THOSE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE WOULD BE FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY
IF
THOSE COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY IF WE FAIL TO MOVE IN THAT
DIRECTION.
>>
DIRECTION. >> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN, FOR
THAT
>> THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN, FOR THAT QUESTION.
FIRST
THAT QUESTION. FIRST WE CAN DEFINITELY FIGHT
POVERTY
FIRST WE CAN DEFINITELY FIGHT POVERTY AND POLLUTION AT THE
SAME
POVERTY AND POLLUTION AT THE SAME TIME.
AND
SAME TIME. AND LET ME SAY CLEARLY THAT THE
ASSESSMENT
AND LET ME SAY CLEARLY THAT THE ASSESSMENT THAT MR. HOLLY
RESPECTFULLY,
ASSESSMENT THAT MR. HOLLY RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE
COMPLETELY,
RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE COMPLETELY, WITH WHAT HE PUT
FORTH
COMPLETELY, WITH WHAT HE PUT FORTH AS THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE
OF
FORTH AS THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NOT CONCERNED
ABOUT
OF COLOR ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLIMATE, ABOUT
CLIMATE
ABOUT THE CLIMATE, ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT,
CLIMATE CHANGE, ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, ABOUT THEIR
HEALTH,
ENVIRONMENT, ABOUT THEIR HEALTH, IN THAT ASPECT.
I
HEALTH, IN THAT ASPECT. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS
HERE
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS HERE IN THAT, WE KNOW THAT
200,000
HERE IN THAT, WE KNOW THAT 200,000 AMERICANS ARE DYING
YEARLY
200,000 AMERICANS ARE DYING YEARLY BECAUSE OF AIR
POLLUTION.
WE
POLLUTION. WE KNOW WE HAVE MILLIONS OF
CHILDREN
WE KNOW WE HAVE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN AND ADULTS WHO HAVE
ASTHMA,
CHILDREN AND ADULTS WHO HAVE ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA, AND ARE
GETTING
ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA, AND ARE GETTING CANCER.
WE
GETTING CANCER. WE KNOW THAT 68
WE
WE KNOW THAT 68 WE KNOW 68% OF PEOPLE OF COLOR,
BLACK
WE KNOW 68% OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, BLACK PEOPLE ARE LIVING WITHIN
30
BLACK PEOPLE ARE LIVING WITHIN 30 MILES OF COAL-FIRED POWER
PLANTS.
WE
PLANTS. WE KNOW THAT THE REGULATIONS OF
THE
WE KNOW THAT THE REGULATIONS OF THE MERCURY RULE AND THE CAR
RULE,
THE MERCURY RULE AND THE CAR RULE, AND MANY OF THE RULES
BEING
RULE, AND MANY OF THE RULES BEING ROLLED BACK BY EPA WILL
HURT
BEING ROLLED BACK BY EPA WILL HURT PEOPLE OF COLOR.
ONE
HURT PEOPLE OF COLOR. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
SAY,
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY, AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHY
I
SAY, AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHY I AM MAKING THIS ASSESSMENT.
HAVING
I AM MAKING THIS ASSESSMENT. HAVING BURIED A YOUNG GIRL
BECAUSE
HAVING BURIED A YOUNG GIRL BECAUSE OF ASTHMA, THAT MOTHER
NO
BECAUSE OF ASTHMA, THAT MOTHER NO LONGER CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH
THAT
NO LONGER CARES ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT UTILITY BILL WOULD HAVE
CAUSED.
THAT
CAUSED. THAT CHILD, I HAVE TO BURY
BECAUSE
THAT CHILD, I HAVE TO BURY BECAUSE OF ASTHMA.
SHE
BECAUSE OF ASTHMA. SHE WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE BEEN
CONCERNED
SHE WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT DEALING WITH A
PARTICULAR
CONCERNED ABOUT DEALING WITH A PARTICULAR MATTER IN THE
ATMOSPHERE,
PARTICULAR MATTER IN THE ATMOSPHERE, SO THE HEALTH
CONCERNS
ATMOSPHERE, SO THE HEALTH CONCERNS ARE ONE OF THE KEY
CONCERNS
CONCERNS ARE ONE OF THE KEY CONCERNS WITH IN THE
CONVENTIONS
CONCERNS WITH IN THE CONVENTIONS OF COLOR.
THE
CONVENTIONS OF COLOR. THE IDEA THAT WE ARE ALSO
CONCERNED
THE IDEA THAT WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUTURE, AND
THE
CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUTURE, AND THE FUTURE GENERATION IS
FRANKLY
THE FUTURE GENERATION IS FRANKLY ABSURD.
THE
FRANKLY ABSURD. THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T CARE THAT
THE
THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T CARE THAT THE SEAS ARE RISING AND THAT WE
WILL
THE SEAS ARE RISING AND THAT WE WILL BE'S FIRST AND WORST HURT
BY
WILL BE'S FIRST AND WORST HURT BY CLIMATE CHANGE IS
OUTLANDISH.
THE
OUTLANDISH. THE FACT FOR ME BEING FROM
LOUISIANA
THE FACT FOR ME BEING FROM LOUISIANA AND SEEING WHAT
HAPPENED
LOUISIANA AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENED WITH HURRICANE
KATRINA,
HAPPENED WITH HURRICANE KATRINA, AND HARVEY, IN
HOUSTON,
KATRINA, AND HARVEY, IN HOUSTON, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF
THINGS
HOUSTON, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT
ON
THINGS THAT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO TO
SET
ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO TO SET UP YOUR HONESTLY AT THIS
CRITICAL
SET UP YOUR HONESTLY AT THIS CRITICAL MOMENT AND TO THEN
PURPORT
CRITICAL MOMENT AND TO THEN PURPORT THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE OF
COLOR
PURPORT THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE SOMEHOW MAKING THE
DECISION
COLOR ARE SOMEHOW MAKING THE DECISION THAT THEY ARE MORE
CONCERNED
DECISION THAT THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ENERGY
BILL
CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ENERGY BILL AND THEIR HEALTH, THEIR
ENERGY
BILL AND THEIR HEALTH, THEIR ENERGY BILL THAN THEIR LIFE,
THAT
ENERGY BILL THAN THEIR LIFE, THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS LITTER WHO
LITERALLY
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS LITTER WHO LITERALLY LUDICROUS IF YOU
THINK
LITERALLY LUDICROUS IF YOU THINK ANYBODY -- THIS WAS BLACK
HISTORY
THINK ANYBODY -- THIS WAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND CIVIL
RIGHTS,
HISTORY MONTH, AND CIVIL RIGHTS, THE IDEA ALSO THAT
POVERTY
RIGHTS, THE IDEA ALSO THAT POVERTY IS PUT UPON WITH
COMMUNITIES
POVERTY IS PUT UPON WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IS
OUTLANDISH.
THIS
OUTLANDISH. THIS IS NOT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE
OF
THIS IS NOT ABOUT POOR PEOPLE OF COLOR BUT POOR WHITE PEOPLE
ARE
OF COLOR BUT POOR WHITE PEOPLE ARE ALSO IN THE FACT OF THE
MATTER.
THEY
MATTER. THEY WANT CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN
WATER.
CLIMATE
WATER. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A CIVIL
RIGHTS
CLIMATE CHANGE IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.
>>
RIGHTS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
REVEREND.
IS
REVEREND. IS THIS JEAN-PIERRE?
AM
IS THIS JEAN-PIERRE? AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY?
>>
AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY? >> YES.
>>
>> YES. >> HOW DO WE MAKE SURE AS WE
MOVE
>> HOW DO WE MAKE SURE AS WE MOVE TOWARD A CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY
MOVE TOWARD A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY THAT WE INVEST
COMMUNITY
ECONOMY THAT WE INVEST COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGIES IN LOW
INCOME
COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGIES IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES
INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO THEY
NOT
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SO THEY NOT LEFT BEHIND?
>>
NOT LEFT BEHIND? >> WEATHERS IN MICHIGAN,
DETROIT,
>> WEATHERS IN MICHIGAN, DETROIT, BROOKLYN, RICHMOND,
CALIFORNIA,
DETROIT, BROOKLYN, RICHMOND, CALIFORNIA, WHETHER IT'S
FRACKING
CALIFORNIA, WHETHER IT'S FRACKING GOING ON IN PEOPLE'S
BACK
FRACKING GOING ON IN PEOPLE'S BACK YARDS, COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR
BACK YARDS, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND FRONT-LINE
COMMUNITIES
COLOR AND FRONT-LINE COMMUNITIES WHETHER THEY ARE IN
INDIAN
COMMUNITIES WHETHER THEY ARE IN INDIAN COUNTRY OR ON
TRANSITIONS,
INDIAN COUNTRY OR ON TRANSITIONS, THEY ARE LOOKING
AT
TRANSITIONS, THEY ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ECONOMIES OF
SCALE.
ANYTHING
SCALE. ANYTHING FROM COMMUNITY OWNED
SOLAR
ANYTHING FROM COMMUNITY OWNED SOLAR TO FIGURING OUT HOW THEY
CAN
SOLAR TO FIGURING OUT HOW THEY CAN CREATE FOOD SYSTEMS THAT
WILL
CAN CREATE FOOD SYSTEMS THAT WILL EXTEND THE CHANGES THAT
ARE
WILL EXTEND THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING.
THERE
ARE COMING. THERE HAS TO BE AN INVESTMENT IN
THOSE
THERE HAS TO BE AN INVESTMENT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
WE
THOSE COMMUNITIES. WE ALSO NEED TO START THINKING
ABOUT
WE ALSO NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT GOVERNANCE DIFFERENTLY.
CLIMATE
ABOUT GOVERNANCE DIFFERENTLY. CLIMATE CHANGE WILL DISRUPT
GOVERNMENTS.
THE
GOVERNMENTS. THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO START
CREATING
THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO START CREATING TRANSFORMATIONAL
PARTNERSHIPS
CREATING TRANSFORMATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITIES
THAT
PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINE AND
THAT
THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINE AND THAT ARE ENGAGING IN THIS KIND
OF
THAT ARE ENGAGING IN THIS KIND OF TRANSFORMATION.
THE
OF TRANSFORMATION. THE OTHER THING IS THE NEEDS
ARE
THE OTHER THING IS THE NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE IN THE
COUNTRY,
ARE DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, SO THE NEEDS OF A
RURAL
COUNTRY, SO THE NEEDS OF A RURAL COMMUNITY ARE NOT THE
SAME
RURAL COMMUNITY ARE NOT THE SAME OF AN URBAN COMMUNITY.
FOLKS
SAME OF AN URBAN COMMUNITY. FOLKS DEALING WITH MOUNTAINTOP
REMOVAL
FOLKS DEALING WITH MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL IN APPELLATION ARE
DEALING
REMOVAL IN APPELLATION ARE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT KINDS OF
CHALLENGES,
DEALING WITH DIFFERENT KINDS OF CHALLENGES, SO IT ISN'T COOKIE-
CUTTER,
CHALLENGES, SO IT ISN'T COOKIE- CUTTER, BUT IT IS A COMMITMENT
TO
CUTTER, BUT IT IS A COMMITMENT TO TRY AND WORK WITH PEOPLE ON
THE
TO TRY AND WORK WITH PEOPLE ON THE GROUND AND BEING LED BY THE
PARTNERSHIP
THE GROUND AND BEING LED BY THE PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
IT'S
PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
CLIMATE
IT'S GOING TO TAKE. CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO
TOP-DOWN
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO TOP-DOWN SOLUTIONS ARE NOT
GOING
TOP-DOWN SOLUTIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE SAFE OVER TIME.
THEY
GOING TO BE SAFE OVER TIME. THEY DON'T WORK.
PEOPLE
THEY DON'T WORK. PEOPLE ON THE GROUND HAVE TO
LEAD
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND HAVE TO LEAD AND WE ARE GOING TO BE
PARTNERS
LEAD AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PARTNERS IN THOSE DECISIONS.
SHARING
PARTNERS IN THOSE DECISIONS. SHARING AND CREATING A SPACE
WHERE
SHARING AND CREATING A SPACE WHERE WE SHARE EXPERTISE AND
INFORMATION
WHERE WE SHARE EXPERTISE AND INFORMATION WITH EACH OTHER.
IN
INFORMATION WITH EACH OTHER. IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING ABOUT
WAS
IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING ABOUT WAS FLOATING BLACK BODIES,
PEOPLE
WAS FLOATING BLACK BODIES, PEOPLE OF AFRICAN ANCESTRY,
THAT
PEOPLE OF AFRICAN ANCESTRY, THAT IS THE TRUTH FOR ALL OF US
ALL
THAT IS THE TRUTH FOR ALL OF US ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES,
RIGHT?
I
RIGHT? I THINK ABOUT PUERTO RICO,
LOUISIANA,
I THINK ABOUT PUERTO RICO, LOUISIANA, AND SO I THINK IT IS
REALLY
LOUISIANA, AND SO I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THOSE
COMMUNITIES
REALLY IMPORTANT THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LEADING
AND
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LEADING AND DOING THE WORK, THAT THEY
NOT
AND DOING THE WORK, THAT THEY NOT BE MARGINALIZED, AND THAT
THEY
NOT BE MARGINALIZED, AND THAT THEY BE SUPPORTED AND INVESTED
IN.
>>
IN. >> MISTER LAMBERG?
>>
>> MISTER LAMBERG? >> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
I'M
>> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN. I'M GOING TO CONCENTRATE MY
QUESTIONS
I'M GOING TO CONCENTRATE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE
PROPOSALS
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO
DEAL
PROPOSALS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
I
DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
SCIENCE
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT, THE MAN-MADE
ROLE.
I
ROLE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROPOSALS
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE
TO
PROPOSALS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE TO DEAL WITH IT.
THE
TO DEAL WITH IT. THE PROPOSAL I'VE SEEN SO FAR
IS
THE PROPOSAL I'VE SEEN SO FAR IS THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
I
IS THE GREEN NEW DEAL. I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
OTHER
I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE MAY HAVE SOME
PROPOSALS
OTHER SIDE MAY HAVE SOME PROPOSALS COMING FORWARD TO
FLESH
PROPOSALS COMING FORWARD TO FLESH THIS OUT BUT RIGHT NOW,
ALL
FLESH THIS OUT BUT RIGHT NOW, ALL WE HAVE IS THE GREEN NEW
DEAL.
WE
DEAL. WE ALREADY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL
CONTENDERS
WE ALREADY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS ENDORSING IT.
WE
CONTENDERS ENDORSING IT. WE HAVE THE GREEN PARTY TALKED
A
WE HAVE THE GREEN PARTY TALKED A LOT ABOUT.
I
A LOT ABOUT. I WILL USE A FEW OF THEIR FACTS
AND
I WILL USE A FEW OF THEIR FACTS AND FIGURES.
THEY
AND FIGURES. THEY SAY IF YOU GO TO
WWW.GP.ORG,
THEY SAY IF YOU GO TO WWW.GP.ORG, WILL COST $13
TRILLION.
HERE
TRILLION. HERE IS OUR DEPENDENCE ON
HYDROCARBONS.
82%
HYDROCARBONS. 82% OF U.S. ELECTRICITY IS
GENERATED
82% OF U.S. ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED FROM COAL, NATURAL
GAS,
GENERATED FROM COAL, NATURAL GAS, AND NUCLEAR LEAVING 18%
FROM
GAS, AND NUCLEAR LEAVING 18% FROM RENEWABLES AND HYDROPOWER.
WHEN
FROM RENEWABLES AND HYDROPOWER. WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION,
WE
WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE 30,000 COMMERCIAL AIR
FLIGHTS
WE HAVE 30,000 COMMERCIAL AIR FLIGHTS A DAY.
I
FLIGHTS A DAY. I DON'T THINK A SINGLE ONE OF
THOSE
I DON'T THINK A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IS POWERED BY RENEWABLES.
WE
THOSE IS POWERED BY RENEWABLES. WE HAVE 250 MILLION CARS AND
TRUCKS
WE HAVE 250 MILLION CARS AND TRUCKS ON THE ROAD.
PEOPLE
TRUCKS ON THE ROAD. PEOPLE IN THE U.S. TRAVELED 11
BILLION
PEOPLE IN THE U.S. TRAVELED 11 BILLION MILES A DAY.
THE
BILLION MILES A DAY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS
HYDROCARBON
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS HYDROCARBON POWERED.
SOME
HYDROCARBON POWERED. SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SOME
ARE
SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SOME ARE ALTERNATIVES LIKE PROPANE
AND
ARE ALTERNATIVES LIKE PROPANE AND BIOFUEL.
THE
AND BIOFUEL. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN
PARTICULAR,
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN PARTICULAR, I AM ALSO ON THE
ARMED
PARTICULAR, I AM ALSO ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, THEY
SPEND
ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON ENERGY.
$13
SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON ENERGY. $13 BILLION A YEAR.
MUCH
$13 BILLION A YEAR. MUCH IF NOT MOST OF THAT IS
HYDROCARBON
MUCH IF NOT MOST OF THAT IS HYDROCARBON BASED.
ACCORDING
HYDROCARBON BASED. ACCORDING TO THE GREEN PARTY,
IN
ACCORDING TO THE GREEN PARTY, IN THEIR PLAN FOR THE GREEN NEW
DEAL,
IN THEIR PLAN FOR THE GREEN NEW DEAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE
ALL
DEAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE ALL OVERSEAS BASES AND LAY OFF
1.4
ALL OVERSEAS BASES AND LAY OFF 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE, BOTH
MILITARY
1.4 BILLION PEOPLE, BOTH MILITARY AND CIVILIAN, AND TO
ME
MILITARY AND CIVILIAN, AND TO ME THAT IS VERY EXTREME.
THIS
ME THAT IS VERY EXTREME. THIS IS TO DO SOMETHING WITH
THE
THIS IS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE GOAL OF NOW HYDROCARBONS BY
THE
THE GOAL OF NOW HYDROCARBONS BY THE YEAR 2030.
11
THE YEAR 2030. 11 YEARS FROM NOW.
SO
11 YEARS FROM NOW. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK,
DOCTOR
SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK, DOCTOR HOLLY, I WILL START WITH
YOU,
DOCTOR HOLLY, I WILL START WITH YOU, IS THAT REALISTIC?
>>
YOU, IS THAT REALISTIC? >> NO, SIR.
YOU
>> NO, SIR. YOU ACTUALLY MENTIONED 80% OF
OUR
YOU ACTUALLY MENTIONED 80% OF OUR TOTAL ENERGY SOURCES COME
FROM
OUR TOTAL ENERGY SOURCES COME FROM FOSSIL FUELS.
I
FROM FOSSIL FUELS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE
THE
I KNOW IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE THE TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY.
IT
THE TURN-OF-THE-CENTURY. IT WAS THAT WAY WHEN MY
GRANDFATHER
IT WAS THAT WAY WHEN MY GRANDFATHER WAS A BLACK
COALMINER
GRANDFATHER WAS A BLACK COALMINER IN SOUTH VIRGINIA.
IT
COALMINER IN SOUTH VIRGINIA. IT WAS THAT WAY WHEN I WAS
WORKING
IT WAS THAT WAY WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR NORFOLK SOUTHERN
AND
WORKING FOR NORFOLK SOUTHERN AND EVEN THE LAST EPA DIRECTOR
UNDER
AND EVEN THE LAST EPA DIRECTOR UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
STATED
UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STATED THAT FOSSIL FUELS, WE
ARE
STATED THAT FOSSIL FUELS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED THEM AT LEAST
THROUGH
ARE GOING TO NEED THEM AT LEAST THROUGH 2050.
>>
THROUGH 2050. >> DOCTOR CURRY?
>>
>> DOCTOR CURRY? >> THE PROBLEM I SEE WITH A
MASSIVELY
>> THE PROBLEM I SEE WITH A MASSIVELY AMBITIOUS TOP-DOWN
POLICY
MASSIVELY AMBITIOUS TOP-DOWN POLICY LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL
IS
POLICY LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS A. WHAT IF WE CAN'T DO IT?
WHAT
IS A. WHAT IF WE CAN'T DO IT? WHAT IF WE ARE WRONG?
THERE
WHAT IF WE ARE WRONG? THERE IS ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
IT'S
THERE IS ALL SORTS OF THINGS. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT IS
AMENABLE
IT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT IS AMENABLE TO THAT KIND OF
SOLUTION.
THAT'S
SOLUTION. THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE MORE OF A
BOTTOM-UP
THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE MORE OF A BOTTOM-UP KIND OF APPROACH.
SO
BOTTOM-UP KIND OF APPROACH. SO THE SO-CALLED INNOVATION
DIVIDEND,
SO THE SO-CALLED INNOVATION DIVIDEND, LOTS OF DIFFERENT
THINGS,
DIVIDEND, LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, LOTS OF SOLUTIONS, AND
SEE
THINGS, LOTS OF SOLUTIONS, AND SEE WHAT WORKS.
>>
SEE WHAT WORKS. >> I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU.
I
>> I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE INGENUITY AND HARD
WORK,
I THINK THE INGENUITY AND HARD WORK, AND CREATIVITY OF THE
AMERICAN
WORK, AND CREATIVITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS A REAL
SOLUTION
AMERICAN PEOPLE IS A REAL SOLUTION AND SHOULD NOT BE LEFT
OUT.
LIKE
OUT. LIKE YOU SAID, TOP-DOWN FROM
GOVERNMENT
LIKE YOU SAID, TOP-DOWN FROM GOVERNMENT COERCION, GOVERNMENT
CONTROL.
IT
CONTROL. IT SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE A
SOVIET
IT SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE A SOVIET FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
THAT
SOVIET FIVE-YEAR PLAN. THAT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO
WORK.
I
WORK. I UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE COMES
INTO
I UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE COMES INTO CONGRESS, YOU DON'T HAVE
TO
INTO CONGRESS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE 25 YEARS OLD TO BE A
MEMBER
TO BE 25 YEARS OLD TO BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
WE
MEMBER OF CONGRESS. WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT BRING
A
WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT BRING A LOT OF GREAT QUALITIES, BUT
MAYBE
A LOT OF GREAT QUALITIES, BUT MAYBE NOT A LOT OF LIFE
EXPERIENCE.
SO
EXPERIENCE. SO I GUESS I CAN UNDERSTAND IF
SOMEONE
SO I GUESS I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE HAS NOT A LOT OF LIFE
EXPERIENCE
SOMEONE HAS NOT A LOT OF LIFE EXPERIENCE AND THEY ARE
PROPOSING
EXPERIENCE AND THEY ARE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT IS
EXTREMELY
PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY UNREALISTIC BUT ALSO
IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT
IMPOSSIBLE. BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS
ADULTS
BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ADULTS AND GROW KNOX WHO ARE
OLD
ADULTS AND GROW KNOX WHO ARE OLD UP OLDER AND MORE MATURE
ADVOCATING
OLD UP OLDER AND MORE MATURE ADVOCATING SOMETHING THAT IS
IMPOSSIBLE.
I
IMPOSSIBLE. I SEE THAT WITH SOME OF THE
PRESIDENTIAL
I SEE THAT WITH SOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS
THROWING
PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS THROWING THE NAMES OUT THERE.
THEY
THROWING THE NAMES OUT THERE. THEY ARE PLUGGING FOR SOMETHING
THAT
THEY ARE PLUGGING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
WITH
THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU BACK THE BALANCE OF MY
TIME.
>>
TIME. >> LET ME PUT IN A PITCH FOR
MYSELF.
>>
MYSELF. >> MISTER CHAIRMAN, WITH ALL
DUE
>> MISTER CHAIRMAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I WANT TO SAY OUR
MOVEMENTS
DUE RESPECT I WANT TO SAY OUR MOVEMENTS HAVE BEEN LED BY
YOUNG
MOVEMENTS HAVE BEEN LED BY YOUNG PEOPLE.
ALL
YOUNG PEOPLE. ALL LED BY YOUNG PEOPLE.
LET'S
ALL LED BY YOUNG PEOPLE. LET'S NOT TRY TO PUT THEM IN A
BOX.
>>
BOX. >> THE PROTOCOL AND DECORUM FOR
THIS
>> THE PROTOCOL AND DECORUM FOR THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I AM
TRYING
THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I AM TRYING TO RUN THIS MEETING IN
THE
TRYING TO RUN THIS MEETING IN THE WAY THAT IS ORDERLY.
WHILE
THE WAY THAT IS ORDERLY. WHILE YOU MIGHT HAVE AN OPINION
AND
WHILE YOU MIGHT HAVE AN OPINION AND WANT TO INTERJECT AT THAT
MOMENT,
AND WANT TO INTERJECT AT THAT MOMENT, UNLESS YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED,
MOMENT, UNLESS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, YOU CAN'T.
LET
RECOGNIZED, YOU CAN'T. LET ME PUT IN A PLUG FOR MYSELF
AS
LET ME PUT IN A PLUG FOR MYSELF AS AN ALL-TIME OR.
I
AS AN ALL-TIME OR. I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH WHAT
SOME
I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH WHAT SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES ARE
SAYING
SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING HERE TODAY, AND SOME OF
OUR
SAYING HERE TODAY, AND SOME OF OUR WITNESSES HAVE SAID TODAY.
I
OUR WITNESSES HAVE SAID TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PUTS ME ON
STEP
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PUTS ME ON STEP WITH MY AGE GROUP, BUT I
WOULD
STEP WITH MY AGE GROUP, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THE VAST MAJORITY
OF
WOULD SUGGEST THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS FEEL THE WAY I DO.
MS.
OF AMERICANS FEEL THE WAY I DO. MS. VELASQUEZ.
>>
MS. VELASQUEZ. >> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN,
RANKING
>> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN, RANKING MEMBER.
I
RANKING MEMBER. I AM VERY PROUD TO BE THE
REPRESENTATIVE
I AM VERY PROUD TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF A LEADING
VOICE
REPRESENTATIVE OF A LEADING VOICE AND ACTIVIST ON CLIMATE
CHANGE.
THANK
CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND
FOR
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR YOUR ACTIVISM.
WOULD
FOR YOUR ACTIVISM. WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU THE FIRST
QUESTION.
AS
QUESTION. AS AN ADVOCATE FOR CLIMATE
JUSTICE,
AS AN ADVOCATE FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE, WITH ITS ETHICAL AND
POLITICAL
JUSTICE, WITH ITS ETHICAL AND POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS, WHAT
WOULD
POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEONE WHO
THINKS
WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEONE WHO THINKS WE SHOULD IGNORE CLIMATE
CHANGE
THINKS WE SHOULD IGNORE CLIMATE CHANGE DESPITE LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES
CHANGE DESPITE LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES BEING
DISPROPORTIONATELY
COMMUNITIES BEING DISPROPORTIONATELY AT RISK FROM
ITS
DISPROPORTIONATELY AT RISK FROM ITS IMPACT?
>>
ITS IMPACT? >> CONGRESSWOMAN, IT'S
WONDERFUL
>> CONGRESSWOMAN, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU.
YOU
WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL
YOU HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FOR
YEARS,
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FOR YEARS, SINCE EVEN BEFORE IT
BECAME
YEARS, SINCE EVEN BEFORE IT BECAME A SEXY THING.
YOU'VE
BECAME A SEXY THING. YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YOUR
DISTRICTS
YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YOUR DISTRICTS FOR SO MANY YEARS, I
AM
DISTRICTS FOR SO MANY YEARS, I AM HONORED TO BE SPEAKING IN
FRONT
AM HONORED TO BE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU.
I
FRONT OF YOU. I DON'T ENGAGE CLIMATE DENIERS.
I
I DON'T ENGAGE CLIMATE DENIERS. I THINK IT SLOWS US DOWN AND
WASTE
I THINK IT SLOWS US DOWN AND WASTE OUR TIME.
I
WASTE OUR TIME. I ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE
MARGINS,
I ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE MARGINS, WHO DON'T KNOW THEY
ARE
MARGINS, WHO DON'T KNOW THEY ARE LIVING AT THE INTERSECTION
OF
ARE LIVING AT THE INTERSECTION OF INJUSTICE AND CLIMATE
CHANGE,
OF INJUSTICE AND CLIMATE CHANGE, AND I TRY TO INSPIRE
AND
CHANGE, AND I TRY TO INSPIRE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO
THOSE
AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THOSE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY KNOW
THEIR
THOSE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY KNOW THEIR LIVES ARE AT RISK AND THE
FUTURE
THEIR LIVES ARE AT RISK AND THE FUTURE OF THEIR CHILDREN IS AT
RISK.
I
RISK. I WANT FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITIES
TO
I WANT FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO KNOW THINGS LIKE POWER
PLANTS
TO KNOW THINGS LIKE POWER PLANTS THAT ARE RUN BY GAS
PRODUCE
PLANTS THAT ARE RUN BY GAS PRODUCE NOXIOUS GAS AND ALL OF
THOSE
PRODUCE NOXIOUS GAS AND ALL OF THOSE PARTICULATES THAT GET
TRAPPED
THOSE PARTICULATES THAT GET TRAPPED IN THE AIR PASSAGES OF
OUR
TRAPPED IN THE AIR PASSAGES OF OUR CHILDREN AND ELDERS BECAUSE
OUR
OUR CHILDREN AND ELDERS BECAUSE OUR ELDERS ARE GOING TO BE
TREMENDOUSLY
OUR ELDERS ARE GOING TO BE TREMENDOUSLY VULNERABLE IN THE
FACE
TREMENDOUSLY VULNERABLE IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
THAT'S
FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT I DO.
I
THAT'S WHAT I DO. I TRY TO REACH PEOPLE'S HEARTS
AND
I TRY TO REACH PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND MINDS BUT FIRST THEY NEED
TO
AND MINDS BUT FIRST THEY NEED TO HAVE HEARTS AND MINDS.
>>
TO HAVE HEARTS AND MINDS. >> THANK YOU.
MISTER
>> THANK YOU. MISTER BERNARD, WHICH COUNTRIES
DO
MISTER BERNARD, WHICH COUNTRIES DO YOU SEE BUSINESSES MAKING
THE
DO YOU SEE BUSINESSES MAKING THE GREATEST EFFORTS TOWARDS
ADDRESSING
THE GREATEST EFFORTS TOWARDS ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE?
AND
ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE? AND WHY IS THAT THE CASE?
AND
AND WHY IS THAT THE CASE? AND I'M SORRY IF THIS QUESTION
HAS
AND I'M SORRY IF THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED.
I
HAS BEEN ASKED. I WAS ABSENT FROM THIS
IMPORTANT
I WAS ABSENT FROM THIS IMPORTANT HEARING BECAUSE I AM
THE
IMPORTANT HEARING BECAUSE I AM THE CHAIR OF THE SMALL BUSINESS
COMMUNITY
THE CHAIR OF THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WE WERE HOLDING A
HEARING
COMMUNITY AND WE WERE HOLDING A HEARING ON THE GOVERNMENT'S
SHUTDOWN
HEARING ON THE GOVERNMENT'S SHUTDOWN IMPACT ON SMALL
BUSINESSES.
>>
BUSINESSES. >> THE QUESTION WASN'T ASKED
AND
>> THE QUESTION WASN'T ASKED AND AS A NEW YORKER I AM
DELIGHTED
AND AS A NEW YORKER I AM DELIGHTED TO SEE YOU AND THANK
YOU
DELIGHTED TO SEE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR DECADES OF SERVICE.
WITH
YOU FOR YOUR DECADES OF SERVICE. WITH REGARD TO COUNTRIES AND
OUR
WITH REGARD TO COUNTRIES AND OUR COUNTRY, IT'S NOT THAT THEY
ARE
OUR COUNTRY, IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THEY
ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. THEY SEE THE RISKS AS I SAID
EARLIER,
THEY SEE THE RISKS AS I SAID EARLIER, AND THEY ARE BEING
DRIVEN
EARLIER, AND THEY ARE BEING DRIVEN TO TAKE PROACTIVE
MEASURES
DRIVEN TO TAKE PROACTIVE MEASURES TO PROTECT THEIR
BUSINESS
MEASURES TO PROTECT THEIR BUSINESS SUPPLY AND SO ON.
WITH
BUSINESS SUPPLY AND SO ON. WITH REGARD TO YOUR QUESTION,
THESE
WITH REGARD TO YOUR QUESTION, THESE COMPANIES OFF RATE IN A
GLOBAL
THESE COMPANIES OFF RATE IN A GLOBAL ENVIRONMENT MORE AND
MORE.
FOR
MORE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE EUROPEAN UNION
HAS
FOR EXAMPLE, THE EUROPEAN UNION HAS INSTIGATED VERY STRONG
REGULATIONS,
HAS INSTIGATED VERY STRONG REGULATIONS, PARTICULARLY
LOOKING
REGULATIONS, PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT THE FIDUCIARY
RESPONSIBILITY
LOOKING AT THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY OF COMPANIES AND
ARE
RESPONSIBILITY OF COMPANIES AND ARE THEY OPERATING WITHIN
PARAMETERS
ARE THEY OPERATING WITHIN PARAMETERS THAT RECOGNIZE THE
RISK
PARAMETERS THAT RECOGNIZE THE RISK SAME A SAFE AND THEY ARE
VERY
RISK SAME A SAFE AND THEY ARE VERY OFTEN ORDINARY PEOPLE, NOT
JUST
VERY OFTEN ORDINARY PEOPLE, NOT JUST RICH PEOPLE.
WITH
JUST RICH PEOPLE. WITH REGARD TO INTERESTING
THINGS
WITH REGARD TO INTERESTING THINGS GOING ON, FOR EXAMPLE,
CHINA
THINGS GOING ON, FOR EXAMPLE, CHINA I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF
CONTROVERSY
CHINA I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT CHINA BUT
CHINA
CONTROVERSY ABOUT CHINA BUT CHINA HAS DECLARED AN
ECOLOGICAL
CHINA HAS DECLARED AN ECOLOGICAL CIVILIZATION.
IT'S
ECOLOGICAL CIVILIZATION. IT'S BUILT INTO THEIR PROGRAM.
THEY
IT'S BUILT INTO THEIR PROGRAM. THEY ARE MAKING TREMENDOUS
INVESTMENTS
THEY ARE MAKING TREMENDOUS INVESTMENTS IN SOLAR.
MOROCCO
INVESTMENTS IN SOLAR. MOROCCO IS MAKING MASSIVE
TARGETS.
THIS
TARGETS. THIS IS NOT AN EITHER OR
SITUATION.
PRECISELY
SITUATION. PRECISELY WE NEED AN ENERGY
MIX.
WE
MIX. WE HAVE TO USE A BIT OF NATURAL
GAS
WE HAVE TO USE A BIT OF NATURAL GAS TO MAKE RENEWABLES LESS
EXPENSIVE.
THIS
EXPENSIVE. THIS IS NOT AN EITHER OR.
AND
THIS IS NOT AN EITHER OR. AND IT'S NOT A CHANCE BETWEEN
TOP-DOWN
AND IT'S NOT A CHANCE BETWEEN TOP-DOWN OR BOTTOM-UP.
IT'S
TOP-DOWN OR BOTTOM-UP. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM
WHICH
IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM WHICH HAS BEEN STATED.
EVERYBODY
WHICH HAS BEEN STATED. EVERYBODY HAS A STAKE IN IT, AND
COMPANIES
EVERYBODY HAS A STAKE IN IT, AND COMPANIES WOULD VERY MUCH
BENEFIT
COMPANIES WOULD VERY MUCH BENEFIT FROM THE SMOOTHING OF
REQUIREMENTS
BENEFIT FROM THE SMOOTHING OF REQUIREMENTS SO THEY DON'T HAVE
TO
REQUIREMENTS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS
FROM
TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS FROM ONE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER.
THAT
FROM ONE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER. THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
>>
THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. >> JEAN-PIERRE.
A
>> JEAN-PIERRE. A HUGE BUYER FOR SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITIES
A HUGE BUYER FOR SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES WHETHER LARGE OR
SMALL
COMMUNITIES WHETHER LARGE OR SMALL SEEMS TO BE WASTE
MANAGEMENT.
AS
MANAGEMENT. AS A MEMBER OF THE TRANSFORM
TRASH
AS A MEMBER OF THE TRANSFORM TRASH CAMPAIGN, HOW CAN WE URGE
LARGELY
TRASH CAMPAIGN, HOW CAN WE URGE LARGELY POPULATED CITIES TO BE
AGGRESSIVE
LARGELY POPULATED CITIES TO BE AGGRESSIVE WHEN ASKING STEPS
TOWARD
AGGRESSIVE WHEN ASKING STEPS TOWARD ZERO WASTE?
>>
TOWARD ZERO WASTE? >> I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK IN
AMSTERDAM
>> I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK IN AMSTERDAM BY AN INTERNATIONAL
ORGANIZATION
AMSTERDAM BY AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT IS TRYING TO
GET
ORGANIZATION THAT IS TRYING TO GET BUSINESSES TO BECOME
SUSTAINABLE
GET BUSINESSES TO BECOME SUSTAINABLE AND TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY
SUSTAINABLE AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR
PRACTICES.
ALL
PRACTICES. ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUSINESSES
KNOW
ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUSINESSES KNOW THAT THEY WILL SUFFER AND
THEY
KNOW THAT THEY WILL SUFFER AND THEY WILL LOSE INCOME BECAUSE
OF
THEY WILL LOSE INCOME BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
LOCALLY,
OF CLIMATE CHANGE. LOCALLY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
WITH
LOCALLY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SMALL BUSINESSES TO BECOME
CLIMATE
WITH SMALL BUSINESSES TO BECOME CLIMATE ADAPTABLE BECAUSE THEY
ARE
CLIMATE ADAPTABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE LITERALLY THE HEART OF THE
ECONOMIC
ARE LITERALLY THE HEART OF THE ECONOMIC DRIVER IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
I
COMMUNITY. I THINK IT IS GOING TOWARD ZERO
WASTE
I THINK IT IS GOING TOWARD ZERO WASTE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
WE
WASTE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE STARTED WORKING WITH SMALL
BUSINESSES
WE STARTED WORKING WITH SMALL BUSINESSES TRYING TO GET THEM
TO
BUSINESSES TRYING TO GET THEM TO MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT DO YOU
CALL
TO MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT, THE STYROFOAM.
WE
CALL THAT, THE STYROFOAM. WE ALSO PRESENTED THEM WITH
ALTERNATIVES
WE ALSO PRESENTED THEM WITH ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE
AFFORDABLE,
ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE AFFORDABLE, AND THE IDEA OF
CREATING
AFFORDABLE, AND THE IDEA OF CREATING COOPERATIVES SO THEY
COULD
CREATING COOPERATIVES SO THEY COULD REDUCE THE COSTS.
THERE
COULD REDUCE THE COSTS. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE CAN
DO
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE CAN DO WITH BUSINESSES TO MOVE THEM
AWAY
DO WITH BUSINESSES TO MOVE THEM AWAY FROM USING PRODUCTS AND
WORKING
AWAY FROM USING PRODUCTS AND WORKING IN A WAY THAT MAKES HIM
UNSUSTAINABLE.
THAT'S
UNSUSTAINABLE. THAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY.
>>
THAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY. >> THANK YOU.
I
>> THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.
>>
I YIELD BACK MY TIME. >> THANK YOU.
I
>> THANK YOU. I JUST HEARD WE ARE CITING
CHINA
I JUST HEARD WE ARE CITING CHINA AS A GOOD ACTOR?
CHINA
CHINA AS A GOOD ACTOR? CHINA ACCOUNTED FOR 34 OF THE
61
CHINA ACCOUNTED FOR 34 OF THE 61 MEGAWATTS THAT WERE
GENERATED
61 MEGAWATTS THAT WERE GENERATED BY COAL POWER PLANTS.
CHINA
GENERATED BY COAL POWER PLANTS. CHINA IS THE BIGGEST POLLUTER
IN
CHINA IS THE BIGGEST POLLUTER IN THE WORLD.
WE
IN THE WORLD. WE ARE RIGHT BEHIND THEM.
MISTER
WE ARE RIGHT BEHIND THEM. MISTER HOLLY, I HAVE TO COME
BACK
MISTER HOLLY, I HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU.
I'VE
BACK TO YOU. I'VE HEARD STATEMENTS THAT
CLIMATE
I'VE HEARD STATEMENTS THAT CLIMATE IMPACTS DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES.
WHAT
COMMUNITIES. WHAT COMMUNITIES ARE HIT MOST
BY
WHAT COMMUNITIES ARE HIT MOST BY POLICIES LIKE THE GREEN NEW
DEAL.
>>
DEAL. >> LOW INCOME AND MINORITY
COMMUNITIES
>> LOW INCOME AND MINORITY COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE CANNOT
AFFORD
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD THE RISING COST
ASSOCIATED
AFFORD THE RISING COST ASSOCIATED WITH THESE POLICIES
AND
ASSOCIATED WITH THESE POLICIES AND MANY PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
RIGHT
AND MANY PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW TO PAY THEIR ENERGY
BILLS.
>>
BILLS. >> THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE
I
>> THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING THIS THING ABOUT
INTERESTING.
ARE
INTERESTING. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH DAVID
VERSUS
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH DAVID VERSUS INTERMITTENT ENERGY?
>>
VERSUS INTERMITTENT ENERGY? >> SOMEWHAT.
>>
>> SOMEWHAT. >> BASE ENERGY HAPPENS ALL THE
TIME.
INTERMITTENT IS LIKE SOLAR AND WIND WHERE IF THE WIND DOESN'T
BLOW
WIND WHERE IF THE WIND DOESN'T BLOW AND THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE,
IT
BLOW AND THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE, IT DOESN'T WORK SO THERE IS A
VERY
IT DOESN'T WORK SO THERE IS A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE ALONG THOSE
APPLICATIONS.
THE
APPLICATIONS. THE PROBLEM THAT WE GOT WITH
NEW
THE PROBLEM THAT WE GOT WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SALTS,
BATTERIES
NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SALTS, BATTERIES DON'T WORK REAL WELL.
THE
BATTERIES DON'T WORK REAL WELL. THE OTHER SIDE IS NOT INTERESTED
IN
THE OTHER SIDE IS NOT INTERESTED IN THE MINING CAPACITIES OF
THOSE
IN THE MINING CAPACITIES OF THOSE THAT HELP US WITH BATTERY
CAPACITY
THOSE THAT HELP US WITH BATTERY CAPACITY SO WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.
IT'S
CAPACITY SO WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. IT'S CONVENIENT IN PHOENIX,
ARIZONA
IT'S CONVENIENT IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA WHEN YOU NEED ENERGY IN
THE
ARIZONA WHEN YOU NEED ENERGY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OR AT
NIGHT
THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OR AT NIGHT TIME WHEN TEMPERATURES
ARE
NIGHT TIME WHEN TEMPERATURES ARE AT 120 DEGREES.
IT'S
ARE AT 120 DEGREES. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL
MINORITY
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL MINORITY GROUPS TO JUST LIVE
WITH
MINORITY GROUPS TO JUST LIVE WITH IT.
>>
WITH IT. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT'S
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I
WOULD
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE
REVEREND
WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE REVEREND HERE ON.
I
REVEREND HERE ON. I NEVER SAID WE DON'T AGREE
THAT
I NEVER SAID WE DON'T AGREE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE DOES NOT
EXIST.
HOWEVER,
EXIST. HOWEVER, MY POINT IS UNTIL WE
FIND
HOWEVER, MY POINT IS UNTIL WE FIND A WAY, A SOLUTION TO
HARNESS
FIND A WAY, A SOLUTION TO HARNESS THOSE RENEWABLES TO
SUSTAIN
HARNESS THOSE RENEWABLES TO SUSTAIN US, WE HAVE TO USE WHAT
WE'VE
SUSTAIN US, WE HAVE TO USE WHAT WE'VE GOT AND WE HAVE AN
ABUNDANCE
WE'VE GOT AND WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF AFFORDABLE,
RELIABLE
ABUNDANCE OF AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE ENERGY IN THIS
COUNTRY.
WE
COUNTRY. WE NEED TO USE IT.
>>
WE NEED TO USE IT. >> I AGREE.
ONE
>> I AGREE. ONE OF THE COMPANIES IN
NORTHERN
ONE OF THE COMPANIES IN NORTHERN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA
USES
NORTHERN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA USES SOME DURING THE DAY AND
GAS
USES SOME DURING THE DAY AND GAS AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT
DELIVERS
GAS AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT DELIVERS UNIFORM DELIVERY
AROUND
DELIVERS UNIFORM DELIVERY AROUND OUR GRID.
BUT
AROUND OUR GRID. BUT I WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON
SOMETHING
BUT I WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON SOMETHING ELSE.
I
SOMETHING ELSE. I AM A DENTIST SO SCIENCE IS A
BIG
I AM A DENTIST SO SCIENCE IS A BIG DEAL TO ME.
IF
BIG DEAL TO ME. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CARBON
SEQUESTRATION
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CARBON SEQUESTRATION IT SEEMS TO ME
LIKE
SEQUESTRATION IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE IS A
VERY
LIKE WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE IS A VERY DYNAMIC, ENGAGING FORCE.
DOCTOR
VERY DYNAMIC, ENGAGING FORCE. DOCTOR CURRY, WOULD YOU AGREE?
>>
DOCTOR CURRY, WOULD YOU AGREE? >> I THINK LAND-USE IS A VERY
BIG
>> I THINK LAND-USE IS A VERY BIG DEAL INCLUDING --
>>
BIG DEAL INCLUDING -- >> I WANT TO GET MORE SPECIFIC.
PHOTOSYNTHESIS.
PLANTS
PHOTOSYNTHESIS. PLANTS TAKE IN CLEAN OXYGEN AND
PRODUCE
PLANTS TAKE IN CLEAN OXYGEN AND PRODUCE CARBON DIOXIDE.
NOW,
PRODUCE CARBON DIOXIDE. NOW, THEY ARE TEACHING CARBON
DIOXIDE
NOW, THEY ARE TEACHING CARBON DIOXIDE FOR THIS OXYGEN.
THEY
DIOXIDE FOR THIS OXYGEN. THEY TAKE DIRTY WATER AND
PRODUCE
THEY TAKE DIRTY WATER AND PRODUCE CLEAN WATER.
IT
PRODUCE CLEAN WATER. IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE WANT TO
ADDRESS
IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, WE WANT TO LOOK
AT
ADDRESS THIS, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE BEST CARBON TRAP YOU'VE
GOT,
AT THE BEST CARBON TRAP YOU'VE GOT, WHICH IS A HEALTHY,
VIBRANT
GOT, WHICH IS A HEALTHY, VIBRANT FOREST.
I'VE
VIBRANT FOREST. I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN
THAT
I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE
PROBLEM
THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR FORESTS
BURNING
PROBLEM WITH OUR FORESTS BURNING UP.
THAT
BURNING UP. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
I
THAT IS NOT THE CASE. I AM FROM ARIZONA.
WE
I AM FROM ARIZONA. WE HAVE 40 TO 60 TREES PER
ACRE.
THAT'S
ACRE. THAT'S WHAT A HEALTHY FOREST
SHOULD
THAT'S WHAT A HEALTHY FOREST SHOULD LOOK LIKE BUT WHAT WE
HAVE
SHOULD LOOK LIKE BUT WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OF LAWSUIT AFTER
LAWSUIT
HAVE BECAUSE OF LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT IS WE
HAVE
LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT IS WE HAVE 800 TO 1000 TREES PER ACRE.
SO
HAVE 800 TO 1000 TREES PER ACRE. SO WE HAVE STARVING TREES
RAISING
SO WE HAVE STARVING TREES RAISING TO THE SUNLIGHT AND
WHEN
RAISING TO THE SUNLIGHT AND WHEN WE GET THESE FIRES, THEY
ARE
WHEN WE GET THESE FIRES, THEY ARE NO LONGER LANDSCAPE FIRES,
THEY
ARE NO LONGER LANDSCAPE FIRES, THEY ARE TREETOP FIRES.
I
THEY ARE TREETOP FIRES. I WANT TO QUOTE WHAT WE SAW
LAST
I WANT TO QUOTE WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR.
WILDFIRES
LAST YEAR. WILDFIRES PRODUCE MORE THAN ONE
KEY
WILDFIRES PRODUCE MORE THAN ONE KEY POLLUTANT PARTICULATE MATTER
IN
KEY POLLUTANT PARTICULATE MATTER IN CALIFORNIA AND NATIONWIDE.
PARTICULATE
IN CALIFORNIA AND NATIONWIDE. PARTICULATE MATTER IS A MIXTURE
OF
PARTICULATE MATTER IS A MIXTURE OF MICROSCOPIC PARTICLES AND
LIQUID
OF MICROSCOPIC PARTICLES AND LIQUID DROPLETS THAT CAN AFFECT
THE
LIQUID DROPLETS THAT CAN AFFECT THE HEART AND LUNGS, CAUSING
SERIOUS
THE HEART AND LUNGS, CAUSING SERIOUS HEART PROBLEMS.
I
SERIOUS HEART PROBLEMS. I HEARD THIS ALL ALONG THIS
PANEL
I HEARD THIS ALL ALONG THIS PANEL ABOUT ASTHMA AND ALL THAT
STUFF.
LISTEN
STUFF. LISTEN TO THIS.
ACCORDING
LISTEN TO THIS. ACCORDING TO THE U.S.
GEOLOGICAL
ACCORDING TO THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, WILDFIRES IN
CALIFORNIA
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, WILDFIRES IN CALIFORNIA 2018 RELEASED THE
COVEN
CALIFORNIA 2018 RELEASED THE COVEN OF 86 MILLION TONS OF
HEAT
COVEN OF 86 MILLION TONS OF HEAT TRAPPING CARBON DIOXIDE.
THE
HEAT TRAPPING CARBON DIOXIDE. THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARBON
EMISSIONS
THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARBON EMISSIONS PRODUCED IN A YEAR
PROVIDING
EMISSIONS PRODUCED IN A YEAR PROVIDING ELECTRICITY FOR AN
ENTIRE
PROVIDING ELECTRICITY FOR AN ENTIRE STATE.
SO
ENTIRE STATE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO
CONCENTRATE
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON CARBON
SEQUESTRATION
CONCENTRATE ON CARBON SEQUESTRATION WE OUGHT TO BE
LOOKING
SEQUESTRATION WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT OUR FORESTS BEING
ADAPTIVE.
I
ADAPTIVE. I AM PART OF THE WESTERN
CAUCUS.
WE
CAUCUS. WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
OPPORTUNITIES
WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT GOOD
NEIGHBORS.
ONE
NEIGHBORS. ONE OF THE MOST LIVABLE
BASTIONS
ONE OF THE MOST LIVABLE BASTIONS OF MY STATE, COCONINO
COUNTY,
BASTIONS OF MY STATE, COCONINO COUNTY, PASSED A BARN LEVY TO
START
COUNTY, PASSED A BARN LEVY TO START BEATING THE FOREST SO
THEY
START BEATING THE FOREST SO THEY HAD A DYNAMIC INTERFACE TO
STOP
THEY HAD A DYNAMIC INTERFACE TO STOP THE FIRE NUMBER ONE AND
NUMBER
STOP THE FIRE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO GIVE IT MORE
SEQUESTRATION.
WOULD
SEQUESTRATION. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT
SYNOPSIS?
>>
SYNOPSIS? >> MOST OF IT.
THE
>> MOST OF IT. THE LIFECYCLE OF A FOREST YOU
KNOW
THE LIFECYCLE OF A FOREST YOU KNOW I HAVE A COMPLEX
INTERACTION
KNOW I HAVE A COMPLEX INTERACTION WITH CO2.
AT
INTERACTION WITH CO2. AT SOME POINT, IT BECOMES NOT
SO
AT SOME POINT, IT BECOMES NOT SO MUCH OF THE SEQUESTRATION
TOO
SO MUCH OF THE SEQUESTRATION TOO MANAGING FORESTS TO PREVENT
WILDFIRES,
TOO MANAGING FORESTS TO PREVENT WILDFIRES, AND TO MAXIMIZE THE
CO2
WILDFIRES, AND TO MAXIMIZE THE CO2 UPTAKE IS SENSIBLE POLICY.
>>
CO2 UPTAKE IS SENSIBLE POLICY. >> ONE QUICK INDULGENCE.
YOUNG
>> ONE QUICK INDULGENCE. YOUNG TREES NEEDING GROWING
TREES.
WHAT
TREES. WHAT WE KNOW IS YOUNG AND
MEDIUM
WHAT WE KNOW IS YOUNG AND MEDIUM GROWTH TREES PRODUCE
MORE
MEDIUM GROWTH TREES PRODUCE MORE CARBON OR OXYGEN THAN THEY
DO
MORE CARBON OR OXYGEN THAN THEY DO CARBON.
THE
DO CARBON. THE OLDER THE TREE GETS, THE
LESS
THE OLDER THE TREE GETS, THE LESS THEY DO.
>>
LESS THEY DO. >> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
>>
>> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISTER
CHAIRMAN.
I
CHAIRMAN. I AM VERY EXCITED THAT YOU HAVE
GIVEN
I AM VERY EXCITED THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
REALLY
GIVEN US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION
AROUND
REALLY HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE.
THIS
AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
IT'S
IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF
OUR
IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN.
MY
OUR CHILDREN. MY OLDEST SON, WHO IS A
FRESHMAN
MY OLDEST SON, WHO IS A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE ASKS MAIL
THE
FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE ASKS MAIL THE TIME WHEN IS CONGRESS GOING
TO
THE TIME WHEN IS CONGRESS GOING TO ACT TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF
CLIMATE
TO ACT TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF CLIMATE CHANGE?
AS
CLIMATE CHANGE? AS WE HAVE HEARD HERE TODAY,
THE
AS WE HAVE HEARD HERE TODAY, THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
BECOME
THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE BECOME GREATER EVERY YEAR.
AT
BECOME GREATER EVERY YEAR. AT MY HOME STATE IN NEVADA, A
DESERT
AT MY HOME STATE IN NEVADA, A DESERT STATE, IT'S PARTICULAR
VULNERABLE
DESERT STATE, IT'S PARTICULAR VULNERABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
BY
VULNERABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE. BY 2050 IT IS PROJECTED THE
CITY
BY 2050 IT IS PROJECTED THE CITY OF LAS VEGAS WILL
EXPERIENCE
CITY OF LAS VEGAS WILL EXPERIENCE 106 DAYS PER YEAR
WITH
EXPERIENCE 106 DAYS PER YEAR WITH TEMPERATURES UPWARDS OF
105
WITH TEMPERATURES UPWARDS OF 105 DEGREES.
TO
105 DEGREES. TO PROVIDE CONTEXT, LAS VEGAS
CURRENTLY
TO PROVIDE CONTEXT, LAS VEGAS CURRENTLY AVERAGES 70 DAYS PER
YEAR
CURRENTLY AVERAGES 70 DAYS PER YEAR WITH TEMPERATURES MORE
THAN
YEAR WITH TEMPERATURES MORE THAN 100 DEGREES.
IT'S
THAN 100 DEGREES. IT'S HOT IN VEGAS, BUT THE FACT
THAT
IT'S HOT IN VEGAS, BUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING THOSE MANY
DAYS
THAT WE ARE HAVING THOSE MANY DAYS PER YEAR OVER 100 DEGREES
IS
DAYS PER YEAR OVER 100 DEGREES IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
EVEN
IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. EVEN MORE CONCERNING, BUT 2050,
THE
EVEN MORE CONCERNING, BUT 2050, THE TYPICAL HEAT WAVE DAYS IS
PROJECTED
THE TYPICAL HEAT WAVE DAYS IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE FROM 15
DAYS
PROJECTED TO INCREASE FROM 15 DAYS PER YEAR TO 55 PER YEAR.
ACCORDING
DAYS PER YEAR TO 55 PER YEAR. ACCORDING TO THE READY PUBLIC
SERVICE
ACCORDING TO THE READY PUBLIC SERVICE CAMPAIGN AT THE
DEPARTMENT
SERVICE CAMPAIGN AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY,
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, EXTREME HEAT RESULTS
IN
SECURITY, EXTREME HEAT RESULTS IN THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF ANNUAL
DEATHS
IN THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF ANNUAL DEATHS ALONG ALL WEATHER
RELATED
DEATHS ALONG ALL WEATHER RELATED HAZARDS.
MISTER
RELATED HAZARDS. MISTER CHAIRMAN, SADLY, SENIORS
AND
MISTER CHAIRMAN, SADLY, SENIORS AND CHILDREN ARE AT GREATEST
RISK
AND CHILDREN ARE AT GREATEST RISK OF DEATH DURING HEAT
WAVES.
LAKE
WAVES. LAKE MEAD SUPPLIES WATER TO
MORE
LAKE MEAD SUPPLIES WATER TO MORE THAN 90% OF LAS VEGAS AND
ROUGHLY
MORE THAN 90% OF LAS VEGAS AND ROUGHLY 25 MILLION PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT
ROUGHLY 25 MILLION PEOPLE THROUGHOUT NEVADA, CALIFORNIA
AND
THROUGHOUT NEVADA, CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA.
IT
AND NEVADA. IT CONTINUES TO DEPLETE DUE TO
INCREASING
IT CONTINUES TO DEPLETE DUE TO INCREASING TEMPERATURES CAUSED
BY
INCREASING TEMPERATURES CAUSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE.
IN
BY CLIMATE CHANGE. IN 2016, LAKE MEAD, WHICH IS FED
BY
IN 2016, LAKE MEAD, WHICH IS FED BY THE COLORADO RIVER, REACHED
ITS
BY THE COLORADO RIVER, REACHED ITS LOWEST LEVEL ON RECORD, AND
NOW
ITS LOWEST LEVEL ON RECORD, AND NOW HOLDS JUST 37% OF ITS
ORIGINAL
NOW HOLDS JUST 37% OF ITS ORIGINAL CAPACITY.
AS
ORIGINAL CAPACITY. AS EXTREME HEAT RISES, THE
DEPLETION
AS EXTREME HEAT RISES, THE DEPLETION OF THE COLORADO RIVER
AND
DEPLETION OF THE COLORADO RIVER AND LAKE MEAD IS PROJECTED TO
WORSEN
AND LAKE MEAD IS PROJECTED TO WORSEN IN THE FUTURE.
MORE
WORSEN IN THE FUTURE. MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE
LIVING
MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE LIVING IN NEVADA OR 46% OF OUR
STATE'S
LIVING IN NEVADA OR 46% OF OUR STATE'S POPULATION LIVE IN
ELEVATIONS
STATE'S POPULATION LIVE IN ELEVATIONS AT ELEVATED RISK OF
WILDFIRES.
AS
WILDFIRES. AS EXTREME TEMPERATURES
INCREASE,
AS EXTREME TEMPERATURES INCREASE, ESPECIALLY IN DROUGHT
YEARS,
INCREASE, ESPECIALLY IN DROUGHT YEARS, THE RISK OF WILDFIRES
WILL
YEARS, THE RISK OF WILDFIRES WILL CONTINUE TO RISE.
THE
WILL CONTINUE TO RISE. THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA, LIKE THE
PEOPLE
THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA, LIKE THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES,
PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR
SOLUTIONS,
STATES, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS, AND THEY'RE LOOKING
FOR
SOLUTIONS, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THIS CONGRESS TO ACT.
SO
FOR THIS CONGRESS TO ACT. SO I WANT TO ASK YOU WHETHER
YOUR
SO I WANT TO ASK YOU WHETHER YOUR ORGANIZATION, WHICH WORKS
WITH
YOUR ORGANIZATION, WHICH WORKS WITH BUSINESSES TO UNDERSTAND
THE
WITH BUSINESSES TO UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS-INVESTOR IMPACTS,
IF
THE BUSINESS-INVESTOR IMPACTS, IF YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT THE
HEAT
IF YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT THE HEAT WAVE AND DROUGHT, AND HOW
THEY
HEAT WAVE AND DROUGHT, AND HOW THEY ARE OF SIGNIFICANT
CONCERN,
THEY ARE OF SIGNIFICANT CONCERN, AND HOW WATER ISSUES,
AROUND
CONCERN, AND HOW WATER ISSUES, AROUND COMPANIES AND INVESTORS
ARE
AROUND COMPANIES AND INVESTORS ARE DEALING WITH THIS
PARTICULAR
ARE DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND IF THERE
ARE
PARTICULAR ISSUE AND IF THERE ARE EXAMPLES YOU KNOW OF IN OUR
HOME
ARE EXAMPLES YOU KNOW OF IN OUR HOME STATE OF NEVADA.
>>
HOME STATE OF NEVADA. >> AS A MATTER OF FACT TODAY,
WE
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT TODAY, WE ARE HAVING OUR SUPPLY CHAIN
CONFERENCE
WE ARE HAVING OUR SUPPLY CHAIN CONFERENCE IN LAS VEGAS.
AS
CONFERENCE IN LAS VEGAS. AS I MENTIONED IN MY TESTIMONY,
CAESARS
AS I MENTIONED IN MY TESTIMONY, CAESARS ENTERTAINMENT IS
CONCERNED
CAESARS ENTERTAINMENT IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF
WATER.
THEY
WATER. THEY HAVE FACILITIES IN VERY
DRY
THEY HAVE FACILITIES IN VERY DRY AREAS.
DR
DRY AREAS. DR PEPPER, ALSO CONCERNED.
EVERY
DR PEPPER, ALSO CONCERNED. EVERY COMPANY IS WORRIED ABOUT
WATER.
DOCTOR
WATER. DOCTOR COBB MENTIONED CARBON
PRICING.
I
PRICING. I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING
TO
I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW MOST PLACES IN THE
COUNTRY
TO KNOW MOST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY INCLUDING OKLAHOMA GAS
AND
COUNTRY INCLUDING OKLAHOMA GAS AND ELECTRIC ARE USING INTERNAL
CARBON
AND ELECTRIC ARE USING INTERNAL CARBON PRICES TO GAUGE THE
POTENTIAL
CARBON PRICES TO GAUGE THE POTENTIAL COST OF THESE HIDDEN
HITCHHIKERS,
POTENTIAL COST OF THESE HIDDEN HITCHHIKERS, WHICH ARE THESE
TRENDS
HITCHHIKERS, WHICH ARE THESE TRENDS THAT GO INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE
TRENDS THAT GO INTO THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WE DON'T SEE,
BUT
ATMOSPHERE THAT WE DON'T SEE, BUT WHICH COST US SOMETHING.
PEOPLE
BUT WHICH COST US SOMETHING. PEOPLE ARE USING AN INTERNAL
CARBON
PEOPLE ARE USING AN INTERNAL CARBON PRICE IN ANTICIPATION OF
REGULATION
CARBON PRICE IN ANTICIPATION OF REGULATION OR TO DEAL WITH
EXISTING
REGULATION OR TO DEAL WITH EXISTING REGULATIONS IN
JURISDICTIONS
EXISTING REGULATIONS IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY ARE NOT
COVERED
JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY ARE NOT COVERED ON THE WATER MATTER
BECAUSE
COVERED ON THE WATER MATTER BECAUSE OF INCREASING WATER
SCARCITY.
COMPANIES
SCARCITY. COMPANIES HAVE ALSO BEGUN TO
SET
COMPANIES HAVE ALSO BEGUN TO SET INTERNAL WATER PRICES
BECAUSE
SET INTERNAL WATER PRICES BECAUSE THEY NEED TO COME TO
TERMS
BECAUSE THEY NEED TO COME TO TERMS WITH INCREASING COSTS OF
WATER.
THE
WATER. THE INCREASING SCARCITY AND
MORE
THE INCREASING SCARCITY AND MORE TO THE POINT, THE
INCREASING
MORE TO THE POINT, THE INCREASING LACK OF USABILITY.
WHATABURGER
INCREASING LACK OF USABILITY. WHATABURGER IS PORTABLE OR
WORKABLE.
WE
WORKABLE. WE ARE HAVING LESS PORTABLE AND
LESS
WE ARE HAVING LESS PORTABLE AND LESS USABLE, UNLESS WE SPEND A
LOT
LESS USABLE, UNLESS WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO CLEAN IT.
HERE
LOT OF MONEY TO CLEAN IT. HERE IS WHERE THE IMPACT ON THE
POOR
HERE IS WHERE THE IMPACT ON THE POOR IS POTENTIALLY
CATASTROPHIC
POOR IS POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC BECAUSE THEY WILL
HAVE
CATASTROPHIC BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO PASS THAT COST ON.
THERE
HAVE TO PASS THAT COST ON. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER
DROP
THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER DROP OF WATER ON THIS EARTH.
IT'S
DROP OF WATER ON THIS EARTH. IT'S ALL HERE.
SO
IT'S ALL HERE. SO YOU CAN'T MAKE WATER.
SO
SO YOU CAN'T MAKE WATER. SO WE ARE INTO AN ULTIMATE
SCARCITY.
I
SCARCITY. I THINK I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH
A
I THINK I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM OUR
WATER
A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM OUR WATER DISCLOSURE.
COMPANY
WATER DISCLOSURE. COMPANY AFTER COMPANY IS
CONCERNED
COMPANY AFTER COMPANY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WATER AND EIT
INDUSTRY,
CONCERNED ABOUT WATER AND EIT INDUSTRY, IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE
THEY
INDUSTRY, IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THEY NEED TO COOL THOSE DATA
CENTERS
THEY NEED TO COOL THOSE DATA CENTERS WITH WATER.
COOLING
CENTERS WITH WATER. COOLING IS BECOMING A VERY BIG
COST,
COOLING IS BECOMING A VERY BIG COST, SO IT IS A COMPLEX
SYSTEM.
YOU
SYSTEM. YOU CAN'T TEASE IT OUT BUT YOU
ARE
YOU CAN'T TEASE IT OUT BUT YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE
ENTIRE
ARE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
WE
ENTIRE COUNTRY. WE ALL LOOK TO YOU TO PUT THE
PIECES
WE ALL LOOK TO YOU TO PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
THANK
PIECES TOGETHER. THANK YOU.
>>
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
DOCTOR
>> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN. DOCTOR CALVIN, I MISSED SOME OF
YOUR
DOCTOR CALVIN, I MISSED SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER BUT I
UNDERSTAND
YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU RAISED CONCERNS
ABOUT
UNDERSTAND YOU RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT RIVER PRODUCTION AND
FISHERIES.
I
FISHERIES. I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE WE
PRODUCE
I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE WE PRODUCE MORE OFFSHORE WATER
THAN
PRODUCE MORE OFFSHORE WATER THAN ANY OTHER STATE.
I
THAN ANY OTHER STATE. I THINK IF WE TAKE THE OTHER
STATES
I THINK IF WE TAKE THE OTHER STATES THAT PRODUCE AND
MULTIPLY
STATES THAT PRODUCE AND MULTIPLY IT BY FOUR, THAT IS
HOW
MULTIPLY IT BY FOUR, THAT IS HOW MUCH WE PRODUCE.
WE
HOW MUCH WE PRODUCE. WE ARE ALSO THE TOP FISHERY
PRODUCER
WE ARE ALSO THE TOP FISHERY PRODUCER IN TERMS OF
CONTINENTAL
PRODUCER IN TERMS OF CONTINENTAL FISHERIES, SO THERE
IS
CONTINENTAL FISHERIES, SO THERE IS A HABITAT CREATED BY THE
ENERGY
IS A HABITAT CREATED BY THE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
I
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE A
GOOD
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB MANAGING THAT IN
REGARD
GOOD JOB MANAGING THAT IN REGARD TO -- I THINK WE CAN
TAKE
REGARD TO -- I THINK WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PROGRAMS BUT
I
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PROGRAMS BUT I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THAT'S
REALLY
I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THAT'S REALLY THE HOTBED OR HABITAT
FOR
REALLY THE HOTBED OR HABITAT FOR MANY OF THE FISHERIES IN
LOUISIANA.
IN
LOUISIANA. IN THE FIRST PANEL, I BROUGHT
UP
IN THE FIRST PANEL, I BROUGHT UP A LETTER FROM MAY 2018
SIGNED
UP A LETTER FROM MAY 2018 SIGNED BY SENATOR SCHUMER AND
SENATOR
SIGNED BY SENATOR SCHUMER AND SENATOR MARKEY.
IT
SENATOR MARKEY. IT WAS ASKING THAT THE
PRESIDENT
IT WAS ASKING THAT THE PRESIDENT WORK WITH OPEC ALLIES
TO
PRESIDENT WORK WITH OPEC ALLIES TO INCREASE GLOBAL OIL
PRODUCTION.
SENATOR
PRODUCTION. SENATOR MENDEZ, SENATOR
CANTWELL
SENATOR MENDEZ, SENATOR CANTWELL AND SENATOR SCHUMER IN
MAY
CANTWELL AND SENATOR SCHUMER IN MAY 2018 ASKING THE PRESIDENT
TO
MAY 2018 ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO WORK WITH OPEC TO INCREASE
OIL
TO WORK WITH OPEC TO INCREASE OIL PRODUCTION.
SAYING
OIL PRODUCTION. SAYING THAT INCREASED
PRODUCTION
SAYING THAT INCREASED PRODUCTION WILL RESULT IN LOWER
ENERGY
PRODUCTION WILL RESULT IN LOWER ENERGY PRICES.
YET,
ENERGY PRICES. YET, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT
SOME
YET, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT SOME OF THE GOVERNORS THAT WERE
HERE
SOME OF THE GOVERNORS THAT WERE HERE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEIR
EFFORTS
HERE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEIR EFFORTS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS
WERE
EFFORTS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS WERE BENEFITING EVERYONE, BUT I
LOOKED,
WERE BENEFITING EVERYONE, BUT I LOOKED, FOR EXAMPLE THE STATE
OF
LOOKED, FOR EXAMPLE THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS THAT WAS
REPRESENTED
OF MASSACHUSETTS THAT WAS REPRESENTED HERE, THERE
KILOWATT
REPRESENTED HERE, THERE KILOWATT OUR ELECTRIC COST WAS
MORE
KILOWATT OUR ELECTRIC COST WAS MORE THAN TWICE THAT, MORE THAN
200%
MORE THAN TWICE THAT, MORE THAN 200% OF THAT WITH MY HOME STATE
OF
200% OF THAT WITH MY HOME STATE OF LOUISIANA, WHICH I THOUGHT
WAS
OF LOUISIANA, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING.
MISTER
WAS INTERESTING. MISTER HOLLY, COULD YOU SHARE
REFLECTIONS
MISTER HOLLY, COULD YOU SHARE REFLECTIONS ON THE BALANCE OF
HOW
REFLECTIONS ON THE BALANCE OF HOW DO WE PURSUE A CLIMATE
POLICY
HOW DO WE PURSUE A CLIMATE POLICY AGENDA LEGISLATION WHILE
AT
POLICY AGENDA LEGISLATION WHILE AT THE SAME TIME NOT ADVERSELY
AFFECTING
AT THE SAME TIME NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTING OUR CITIZENS, AND HOW
DO
AFFECTING OUR CITIZENS, AND HOW DO WE STRIKE THAT BALANCE?
>>
DO WE STRIKE THAT BALANCE? >> I HAD THE CHANCE TO VISIT
YOUR
>> I HAD THE CHANCE TO VISIT YOUR STATE OVER THE SUMMER.
>>
YOUR STATE OVER THE SUMMER. >> COME BACK ANY TIME.
>>
>> COME BACK ANY TIME. >> WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
WHERE
>> WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE ALL THE ONSHORE
OPERATIONS
WHERE ALL THE ONSHORE OPERATIONS TAKE PLACE.
WHEN
OPERATIONS TAKE PLACE. WHEN I TOOK THE TOUR OF
PORTLAND
WHEN I TOOK THE TOUR OF PORTLAND JEAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT
HOW
PORTLAND JEAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW COUNTRIES COME FROM AROUND
THE
HOW COUNTRIES COME FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO STUDY THE GULF
BECAUSE
THE WORLD TO STUDY THE GULF BECAUSE IT IS SO RICH IN
WILDLIFE.
THAT'S
WILDLIFE. THAT'S SAYS TO ME ENERGY
EXPLORATION
THAT'S SAYS TO ME ENERGY EXPLORATION CAN COMPETE WITH
THE
EXPLORATION CAN COMPETE WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND COEXIST
WITH
THE ENVIRONMENT AND COEXIST WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
AS
WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. AS LONG AS WE HAD THAT TO LOOK
AT
AS LONG AS WE HAD THAT TO LOOK AT AND USE AS A GAUGE, I THINK
THAT
AT AND USE AS A GAUGE, I THINK THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.
>>
THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO START. >> WE HAVE SOME EXTRAORDINARY
COASTAL
>> WE HAVE SOME EXTRAORDINARY COASTAL CHALLENGES.
AND
COASTAL CHALLENGES. AND I'M NOT A CLIMATE DENIER.
I
AND I'M NOT A CLIMATE DENIER. I JUST REALLY STRUGGLED WITH
HOW
I JUST REALLY STRUGGLED WITH HOW DO WE FIND THE RIGHT
BALANCE
HOW DO WE FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE AND CRITERIA TO MOVE
FORWARD.
DOCTOR
FORWARD. DOCTOR CURRY, ONE OF THE RULE
CHANGES
DOCTOR CURRY, ONE OF THE RULE CHANGES I TRIED TO MAKE IN THIS
COMMITTEE
CHANGES I TRIED TO MAKE IN THIS COMMITTEE WAS A RULE THAT WOULD
CAUSE
COMMITTEE WAS A RULE THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO EVALUATE A JOB
IMPACTS,
CAUSE US TO EVALUATE A JOB IMPACTS, AND NECK ECONOMIC
IMPACTS,
IMPACTS, AND NECK ECONOMIC IMPACTS, TEMPERATURE AND SEE
RISE
IMPACTS, TEMPERATURE AND SEE RISE IMPACTS ON LEGISLATION WE
PROGRESSED.
DO
PROGRESSED. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW
DO
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW DO WE PROPERLY USE CRITERIA OR
METRICS
DO WE PROPERLY USE CRITERIA OR METRICS TO DETERMINE WHICH
LEGISLATION
METRICS TO DETERMINE WHICH LEGISLATION IS ACTUALLY GOING
TO
LEGISLATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE HELPFUL IN BALANCE, AND
WHAT
TO BE HELPFUL IN BALANCE, AND WHAT MAY BE WAY TO TOO HARD
TOWARD
WHAT MAY BE WAY TO TOO HARD TOWARD JOB LOSS OR TOO HARD
TOWARD
TOWARD JOB LOSS OR TOO HARD TOWARD OTHER THINGS IT'S NOT
REALLY
TOWARD OTHER THINGS IT'S NOT REALLY ADVANCING A PUBLIC WIN
OR
REALLY ADVANCING A PUBLIC WIN OR GOAL?
DOES
OR GOAL? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>>
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> SORT OF.
THIS
>> SORT OF. THIS IS WHAT I CALL CLIMATE
CHANGE
THIS IS WHAT I CALL CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEMS.
WHY
CHANGE PROBLEMS. WHY MYSELF AND OTHERS REFER TO
IT
WHY MYSELF AND OTHERS REFER TO IT AS A WICKED PROBLEM.
IT'S
IT AS A WICKED PROBLEM. IT'S HARD TO EVEN DEFINE THE
PROBLEM.
THE
PROBLEM. THE BOUNDARIES SEEM TO EVER
EXPAND.
THE
EXPAND. THE IMPACTS ARE VERY WIDE.
NO
THE IMPACTS ARE VERY WIDE. NO MATTER WHAT POLICY WE
PROPOSE,
NO MATTER WHAT POLICY WE PROPOSE, THERE IS BOUND TO BE
UNINTENDED
PROPOSE, THERE IS BOUND TO BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
IT'S
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE TO SORT
THROUGH
IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE TO SORT THROUGH ALL THAT.
THE
THROUGH ALL THAT. THE APPROACH TO ME THAT SEEMS
TO
THE APPROACH TO ME THAT SEEMS TO WORK THE BEST IS WHERE
COMMUNITIES
TO WORK THE BEST IS WHERE COMMUNITIES AND STATES WORK TO
SECURE
COMMUNITIES AND STATES WORK TO SECURE THEIR COMMON INTERESTS,
WHICH
SECURE THEIR COMMON INTERESTS, WHICH ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO
THEIR
WHICH ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THEIR LOCATION, THEIR ECONOMY,
THEIR
THEIR LOCATION, THEIR ECONOMY, THEIR VULNERABILITIES, AS WE
TRY
THEIR VULNERABILITIES, AS WE TRY TO SORT THROUGH THIS,
RATHER
TRY TO SORT THROUGH THIS, RATHER THAN A BIG, TOP-DOWN
MANDATE.
THAT
MANDATE. THAT IS MY THINKING ON THE
SUBJECT.
I
SUBJECT. I WISH THERE WAS A SIMPLE
SOLUTION,
I WISH THERE WAS A SIMPLE SOLUTION, BUT THERE ISN'T.
YIELD
SOLUTION, BUT THERE ISN'T. YIELD BACK TO YOU 8 SECONDS.
>>
YIELD BACK TO YOU 8 SECONDS. >> ROLE WAS BEING CALLED.
BEFORE
>> ROLE WAS BEING CALLED. BEFORE ADJOURNING THE MEETING,
LET
BEFORE ADJOURNING THE MEETING, LET ME THANK THE SECOND PANEL.
AS
LET ME THANK THE SECOND PANEL. AS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS AND
PERSPECTIVES
AS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS AND PERSPECTIVES MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
BROUGHT
PERSPECTIVES MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT UP WHEN THEY OF ASKED
QUESTIONS,
BROUGHT UP WHEN THEY OF ASKED QUESTIONS, RATHER THAN REPEAT
THE
QUESTIONS, RATHER THAN REPEAT THE SAME ONES OVER AGAIN, LET
ME
THE SAME ONES OVER AGAIN, LET ME JUST THANK MISTER COZART.
THANK
ME JUST THANK MISTER COZART. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WERE PRESENT HERE AND
TESTIMONY
I THINK WERE PRESENT HERE AND TESTIMONY TALKS ABOUT US
LOOKING
TESTIMONY TALKS ABOUT US LOOKING BEYOND OUR NOSES AS
MEMBERS
LOOKING BEYOND OUR NOSES AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
THINK
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE.
YOUR
THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. YOUR GENERATION PRODUCT
GENERATIONS
YOUR GENERATION PRODUCT GENERATIONS TO FOLLOW.
THIS
GENERATIONS TO FOLLOW. THIS ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE,
WHAT
THIS ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WHAT I DID LEARN TODAY IS THAT
MAYBE
WHAT I DID LEARN TODAY IS THAT MAYBE WE ARE NOT IN FULL-BLOWN
AND
MAYBE WE ARE NOT IN FULL-BLOWN AND FULL THROATED DENIAL, AS WE
WERE.
WE
WERE. WE ARE IN TO A DIFFERENT PHRASE
WHICH
WE ARE IN TO A DIFFERENT PHRASE WHICH IS CLIMATE CHANGE
AVOIDANCE.
WHAT
AVOIDANCE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO STALL,
CHANGE,
WHAT CAN WE DO TO STALL, CHANGE, TINKER WITH THE
SCIENCE,
CHANGE, TINKER WITH THE SCIENCE, RAISE ISSUES THAT ARE
MEANT
SCIENCE, RAISE ISSUES THAT ARE MEANT TO SO ANY SOLUTION
SEEKING
MEANT TO SO ANY SOLUTION SEEKING MORE POLICIES, OR
LEGISLATIVE
SEEKING MORE POLICIES, OR LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES TO DEAL
WITH
LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES TO DEAL WITH THIS VERY URGENT PROBLEM.
THANK
WITH THIS VERY URGENT PROBLEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE FRONT LINE COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES
THE FRONT LINE COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES MOST IMPACTED IN A
DISPARATE
COMMUNITIES MOST IMPACTED IN A DISPARATE WAY BY UNABATED
CLIMATE
DISPARATE WAY BY UNABATED CLIMATE CHANGE, AN AFTERTHOUGHT
IN
CLIMATE CHANGE, AN AFTERTHOUGHT IN POLICYMAKING, WE MAKE SURE
THOSE
IN POLICYMAKING, WE MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FRONT AND CENTER IN
THE
THOSE ARE FRONT AND CENTER IN THE DISCUSSION AROUND ISSUES OF
JUSTICE,
THE DISCUSSION AROUND ISSUES OF JUSTICE, EQUITY, ACCESS, AND
INCLUSION.
I
INCLUSION. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
WE
THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WE ALSO MAKE POLICIES AT THIS
LEVEL
WE ALSO MAKE POLICIES AT THIS LEVEL AND THEN I HAVE TO
BACKTRACK
LEVEL AND THEN I HAVE TO BACKTRACK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE
IMPACT
BACKTRACK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE IMPACT WAS NEVER DEALT WITH.
AS
IMPACT WAS NEVER DEALT WITH. AS WE SEEK SOLUTIONS, EQUITY
HAS
AS WE SEEK SOLUTIONS, EQUITY HAS GOT TO BE PART OF THE
DISCUSSION
HAS GOT TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION ALL THE WAY DOWN.
DOCTOR
DISCUSSION ALL THE WAY DOWN. DOCTOR COBB, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THANK
MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING TO BEAR
WHAT
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING TO BEAR WHAT I THINK IS ESSENTIAL IN
THE
WHAT I THINK IS ESSENTIAL IN THE SOLUTION SEEKING, AND
EMPIRICAL
THE SOLUTION SEEKING, AND EMPIRICAL INFORMATION, AND
FACT.
WE
FACT. WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
HAVING
WE WILL GO FROM THERE. HAVING BEEN ABSENT IN THE LAST
TWO
HAVING BEEN ABSENT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THAT IS NO LONGER
GOING
TWO YEARS, THAT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE THE CASE.
OUR
GOING TO BE THE CASE. OUR GUIDEPOST USED TO BE
SCIENCE
OUR GUIDEPOST USED TO BE SCIENCE AND FACTS, AND CRITICAL
INFORMATION.
THOSE
INFORMATION. THOSE OF THE GUIDEPOSTS WE CAN
MOVE
THOSE OF THE GUIDEPOSTS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND I HAVE EVERY
INTENTION
MOVE FORWARD AND I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF MAKING SURE THAT
IS
INTENTION OF MAKING SURE THAT IS CENTRAL TO THE DISCUSSION.
I
IS CENTRAL TO THE DISCUSSION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MISS
APARNA
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MISS APARNA BRINGING TO LIGHT ABOUT
BUSINESSES
APARNA BRINGING TO LIGHT ABOUT BUSINESSES AND WITH OR WITHOUT
REGULATIONS,
BUSINESSES AND WITH OR WITHOUT REGULATIONS, IN ANTICIPATION OF
WHAT
REGULATIONS, IN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT IS COMING. THEY ARE
PREPARING.
AND
PREPARING. AND JUST AS THE ECONOMIC ENGINES
OF
AND JUST AS THE ECONOMIC ENGINES OF THIS COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD
ARE
OF THIS COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD ARE PREPARING FOR CLIMATE
CHANGE,
ARE PREPARING FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, WE SHOULD BE PREPARING
FOR
CHANGE, WE SHOULD BE PREPARING FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO MAKE SURE
WE
FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO MAKE SURE WE CONFRONT THIS AND DEAL WITH
IT.
I
IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR INFORMATION
VERY
I APPRECIATE YOUR INFORMATION VERY MUCH.
AND
VERY MUCH. AND ON THAT NOTE, LET ME THANK
YOU.
IT'S
YOU. IT'S THE FIRST HEARING.
I
IT'S THE FIRST HEARING. I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE AS
I
I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE AS I FAILED TO MANAGE THE CLOCK
ACCURATELY
I FAILED TO MANAGE THE CLOCK ACCURATELY BUT IT ALL WORKED
OUT.
WE
OUT. WE WILL GO FORWARD.
EACH
WE WILL GO FORWARD. EACH SUBCOMMITTEE WILL NOW TAKE
UPON
EACH SUBCOMMITTEE WILL NOW TAKE UPON ITSELF FOR OUR THIS
COMMITTEE
UPON ITSELF FOR OUR THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SIMILAR
HEARING
COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SIMILAR HEARING DEALING WITH THAT
JURISDICTION,
HEARING DEALING WITH THAT JURISDICTION, AS WE GO FORWARD.
THIS
JURISDICTION, AS WE GO FORWARD. THIS COMMITTEE, AS MISTER
BISHOP
THIS COMMITTEE, AS MISTER BISHOP SAID, HAS A LOT UNDER
JURISDICTION.
WE
JURISDICTION. WE FEEL OVER 20% OF THE
LEGISLATIVE
WE FEEL OVER 20% OF THE LEGISLATIVE ADAPTATION AND
SOLUTION.
PUBLIC
SOLUTION. PUBLIC LANDS, WATERS, SESSIONS,
AND
PUBLIC LANDS, WATERS, SESSIONS, AND THE JURISDICTION THAT IS
BROADENED.
WE
BROADENED. WE INTEND TO PURSUE IT THAT
WAY.
IT'S
WAY. IT'S A TASK THAT WE CAN IGNORE.
YOUR
IT'S A TASK THAT WE CAN IGNORE. YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY MADE IT
ABUNDANTLY
YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO SOMETHING
WE
ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO SOMETHING WE CANNOT IGNORE AND AN URGENCY
WE
WE CANNOT IGNORE AND AN URGENCY WE MUST DEAL WITH WITH HASTE
AND
WE MUST DEAL WITH WITH HASTE AND NOT STALL, AVOID, OR IGNORE.
THANK
AND NOT STALL, AVOID, OR IGNORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MEETING
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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