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House Session - May 8, 2001

Bills Introduced: 23 public bills, H.R. 1745-1767; 1 private bill, H.R. 1768; and 4 resolutions, H. Con. Res. 128-130 and H. Res. 137, were introduced.


The House convened, starting a new legislative day.


The Speaker designated the Honorable Darrell E. Issa to act as Speaker pro tempore for today.


MORNING HOUR BUSINESS - The House proceeded with Morning Hour business. At the conclusion of Morning Hour, the House will recess until 2 p.m. at which time regular legislative business will begin.


The Speaker announced that the House do now recess. The next meeting is scheduled for 2:00 P.M. today.

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  • 12:30:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Signed. Jadedness Hastert speaker of the House of Representatives .

  • 12:30:33 PM

    THE CLERK

    Pursuant to the order of the house . Of January third two thousand and one…

    Pursuant to the order of the house . Of January third two thousand and one . The chair will not recognize members from the list submitted by the majority and minority leaders. For the morning our debates. The chair with alternate. Recognition between the parties . With each party

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  • 12:30:52 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    limited to thirty minutes. And each member . Other than the majority and…

    limited to thirty minutes. And each member . Other than the majority and minority leaders . And there might be no minority whip. Limited to five minutes. The chair recognizes the gentleman from Oregon . Oregon. Mr Lew Meyer for five minutes . you Thank Mr Speaker. If you care about little communities you should be encouraged with the recent discussion surrounding the flooding in the upper Mississippi . You can't make family safe healthy and economically secure . Unless you squarely address. How we manage these disasters . Despite massive

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  • 12:31:31 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    . Despite massive construction efforts to stave off harm over the last…

    . Despite massive construction efforts to stave off harm over the last forty years . Losses. Adjusted for inflation are six times greater than before we started. The reasons are quite clear. First. We've often made the problems worse by our efforts to prevent disasters. We have channelize the rivers we've narrowed the. We've narrowed them. We've reduced the capacity to carry water. While they increase the velocity . And we leave no place for the water to go. When it floods. Number two. We have a decided lack of careful planning for land. Around the edges . Of rivers and other bodies of water . Water is a magnet for development. Especially when we implement things that appear to increase safety . Like build more and higher sea walls and dykes . This is encourage people to develop in flood plains. Which by their very nature puts people at risk . There is a reason why they are called flood plains. Nationally we have developed over half our nation's wetlands . With houses and parking lots. In some communities. Ninety percent or more of the original wetlands have disappeared. Taking with it. The capacity for the ground in low lying areas. To soak up water . And have relatively benign pools ponds and temporary lakes in the swamps which are always targeted to be eliminated. We're actually very effective devices to prevent floodwater from inflicting. More damage. Into this volatile mix we need to factor . Global climate change . There are some who still argue that what we should just study it. But the strong consensus from the. Scientific community. Is that global warming and client. Change is a reality . There's a very high degree of probability that the warming we've seen in the last century. Will continue. And even accelerate. And while many people associate this with severe droughts and. Much higher temperature in urban areas and nighttime temperatures . There's another significant factor of extreme storm events there been many incidents recently where communities have set. All time records. For rainfall. In a twenty four hour period. This combination of mismanagement flood protection . Inappropriate development. And the likelihood of things getting worse in terms of increased precipitation . Makes these questions. Even more significant . There is a golden opportunity for environmentalists to join with the administration . For fiscal conservatives to join with people who are concerned about preventing human misery. To agree to simple commonsense steps that will provide for true improvement. First. There ought to be an incentive. An emphasis on prevention. We should not discourage . Or eliminate. Promising programs like Project Impact . Which help people prepare. To resist disasters before the fact. Second there ought to be increased. Local responsibility . There's no question that local communities must bear the consequences for decisions they make . About the location . And nature. Of development. There is no question that more expensive or intrusive measures. Should require more local or state support. However the federal match. Should be higher for things that are going to be preventative in nature . While subsidy. Should be reduced or eliminated . For things that are more likely to make it worse. Local communities should implement sound land use planning and building codes. To help themselves . There's no excuse to put hog laid waste lagoons in. Floodplains. To not have reasonable building requirements for window coverings. For areas that are subject to extreme. Tropical storm damage . Or to allow people to maintain residence in repeatedly flooded areas . All. Should be given clear signals that they're going to have to accept responsibility . To mitigate these clearly. Avoidable damages . Finally a simple commonsense step should be to reform . The Flood Insurance Program . To eliminate federal subsidy for repetitive flood loss payments. It's critical that we not make this into a political tug of war . At a time when there is consensus in the scientific community . Environmentalist's . The professionals who work in disaster mitigation . About what will work. What will make things better. But will keep people out of harm's way. We need to work cooperatively . To make our communities more livable. With a better match between private responsibility. And government policy. At all levels. But your own time at it as expired. The chair calls the gentleman from Nebraska missed . Without objection so ordered. The gentleman is recognized for five minutes .

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  • 12:36:38 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Mr Speaker. I've been concerned about attacks made on the Bush…

    Mr Speaker. I've been concerned about attacks made on the Bush administration for the decision to not immediately implement Environmental Protection Agency's decision to reduce the standard on arsenic in drinking water.

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  • 12:36:44 PM

    MR. BEREUTER

    Protection Agency's decision to reduce the standard on arsenic in drinking…

    Protection Agency's decision to reduce the standard on arsenic in drinking water. Fifty parts per billion to ten parts per billion until further research and data is provided.

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  • 12:36:58 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    So it's nearly everyone has heard of individuals being poisoned with…

    So it's nearly everyone has heard of individuals being poisoned with arsenic. It is

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  • 12:37:01 PM

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    arsenic. It is that any amount of arsenic is detrimental . And that not…

    arsenic. It is that any amount of arsenic is detrimental . And that not immediately implementing a lower standard of ten parts per billion is and I am Vironment. And insensitive to human health concerns . The fifty parts per billion Stannard has been in effect since one nine hundred forty two . And there's no sound evidence that having a standard of fifty parts per billion has led to increased health problems. In the United States . Most people are not aware of the fact that arsenic is a naturally occurring substance . And is present and the groundwater. In most western states . And parts of the Midwest. And even some parts of New England. It is not put there by pesticides. Fertilizers or human beings . Ninety seven percent of the communities exceeding the ten parts per billion of arsenic in their water supplies . Are small towns. With populations of less than ten thousand people. There are sixty nine communities in the state of Nebraska that exceed ten parts per billion. Of arsenic . You know the all of these are small rural communities and most of them have only eleven to fifteen parts per billion of arsenic in their groundwater . In order to meet the ten parts per billion standard nearly all of these communities would have to be assessed several hundred dollars per family . And several million dollars per community. Much of the E.P.A. reason for dropping the arsenic standards to ten parts per billion . Has been extrapolated from studies done in Taiwan where water contains an average arsenic level of two hundred and fifty parts per billion . Some health problems have been detected as a result of the high levels of arsenic in Taiwan . Now if there is a linear relationship . Regard to the level of arsenic in health concerns reducing the standard level of arsenic . From fifty parts per billion to ten parts per billion with theoretically and this is the radically only. Prevent three cases of bladder cancer and could possibly prevent a handful of deaths from all causes . That might possibly be related arsenic in the United States annually. If a linear relationship exists. Even one part per billion poses at least some slight health risk. At the present time however there is no clear evidence that there is a linear relationship between arsenic level and health . It is very possible there may be some point. That a certain amount of arsenic in the water poses. Absolutely . No health risk. Arsenic is necessary for human life and is present in every person's body. Therefore fifty parts per billion . Forty parts per billion thirty or twenty parts per billion could prove to be perfectly safe . We just don't know what that level is . The cost of lowering their standard from fifty parts per billion to ten parts per billion. Has been estimated by the E.P.A. to cost one hundred and eighty one million dollars annually . However the American waterworks Association. Has stated that the cost would actually be . Six hundred million annually . With an additional five billion and capital outlays to pay for the treatment plans . There is a huge discrepancy. Obviously. And these figures . The E.P.A. told the state under basket apartment of hell to dump extract arsenic on open fields . As arsenic. Is nontoxic. However a short time later the E.P.A. reversed its a pain in and said that arsenic extract from water must be shipped to toxic waste dumps. It does not appear that the A.P.A. has factor the cost of shipping arsenic to toxic waste sites . And their cost estimates. It was seen at the Bush administration's decision to delay implementation of standards until further study has been. Is warranted. In short it seems that all of the evidence that we currently have would indicate that an arbitrary level of ten parts per billion may be excessively low . And it's quite likely not based on any sound evidence . For their data from independent sources. Is clearly warranted . Mr Speaker I yield back the balance of my time. Thank you. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from . Mr underwrite. Underwood . For five minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker Mr Speaker and . Celebration of Asian Pacific American Heritage Month. I proudly rise to introduce a concurrent resolution authorizing the printing of a book entitled Asian and Pacific Islander Americans and Congress . Each year during

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  • 12:41:20 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Asian and Pacific Islander Americans and Congress . Each year during the…

    Asian and Pacific Islander Americans and Congress . Each year during the month of May we celebrate the rich heritage of Asian and Pacific Islander Americans throughout the country.

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  • 12:41:30 PM

    MR. UNDERWOOD

    Pacific Islander Americans throughout the country. Thanks to the…

    Pacific Islander Americans throughout the country. Thanks to the pioneering efforts of Congressman Frank Horton. And Norman Minetta who sponsored legislation . Celebrating the first official. Asian Pacific American wake in one nine hundred seventy eight in one thousand nine hundred two congressman Horton. Authored. Legislation expanding the week into a permanent month long celebration of the proud mosaic of histories and ethnicities. Of this most diverse national community . Asian and Pacific Islanders are indeed a diverse constellation of peoples. From forty major sub population groups of. Pacific Islander Americans including to morals native Hawaiians. And some all ones. Southeast Asian American such as come bodie and Vietnamese monks and Laotians. East Asian Americans including Chinese Japanese and Koreans. And South Asian Americans including. Indians and Pakistanis are national community boasts the most diverse minority group within the country . Comprised of both immigrant and. Indigenous populations . The history of Congress includes thirty three. Asian and Pacific Islander Americans that have served from one thousand eight hundred three to the present . These members come from backgrounds ranging. Ranging from Chinese to moral Filipino. Asian Indian Japanese Korean Hawaiian and some are. Thirteen of these members were resident commissioners from the Philippine Islands during the time. It was a territory from eighteen. Ninety eight until it became independent . In one nine hundred forty six. Currently there are nine members serving in the one hundred seventh Congress amongst them are two senators. Two delegates and five representatives . Delegate Joan a kind of on e Bay. A native Hawaiian Prince and member of the Hawaiian royal family. Was the first Pacific Islander American elected to Congress. Delegate Co he'll represent of the territory of Hawaii. From one thousand nine hundred three one thousand nine hundred twenty three . Whole I.E.. Not surprisingly being the state with the highest per capita . Population of Asian and Pacific Islander Americans. Has a history of many other firsts in Congress. Senator Hiram fungus the first Chinese American and Congress and. Representative Patsy Mink was the first Asian Pacific American woman in Congress Senator Daniel K. annoying. Is the first Japanese American. And has served in Congress . Since being elected in one thousand and fifty nine after statehood for Hawaii . Senator Danny Akaka is the first U.S. senator of. Native Hawaiian ancestry. Amongst the other first. Representative down at saying saloon of California was the first Asian American U.S. representative from one nine hundred fifty seven to nine hundred sixty three was first delegate to Congress and Tonio bar how one Pat was the first to moral elected in one nine hundred seventy three delegates. Fulfill. The first American someone in Congress was elected in one thousand nine hundred one. And Representative Jake Kim was the first Korean American. Elected to the hundred third Congress. Beneath. Why . To Austin. Legarda Don Pablo all Campolo were the first Filipinos elected as represented. President commissioners . In the sixtieth Congress and nineteen zero seven members also served in a variety of occupations before working in Congress . Seven were educators. Eight held law degrees and practice law. Two had been judges. Others had one. State and local elections before serving in Congress . Nine members have military experience lists such as brigadier general. Ben blas. Earning a bronze medal . And Captain Daniel annoying who was awarded the Medal of Honor by President Bill Clinton last year . Some became great statesman . Serving in Congress . Such as Brigadier General Carter Spanier out of Rome and all who served with distinction as a camp to. General MacArthur. He was appealing surprise winner . One of the signatories of the UN Charter. And President of the UN assembly from one nine hundred forty nine to one nine hundred fifty. Asian and Pacific Islander Americans have also chaired several congressional committees in the Senate Senator annoyance. Chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence . Secret military assistance to Iran and Necker agoa. Opposition Select Committee and Senate Committee on Indian Affairs . And the House of Representative Norman that I chaired the House public works . And Transportation Committee. Moneta later went on to be the first Asian American member of a presidential cabinet. Who was appointed by President Bill Clinton to serve as secretary of commerce . He was tapped again this year by its. President George Bush. To serve as secretary of transportation . As a member of the congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus one of our goals is to educate other members. And the country about the history and contributions. Of Asian Pacific Islander Americans. This concurrent resolution authorizing the printing of this book will enable us to meet this goal. I ask unanimous consent to enter my entire statement on the record . Without objections to waste of members of Congress . From the Asian Pacific Islander community. Thank you Mr Speaker generous time has expired . The chair now recognizes the gentleman from the breast of Mr B. writer for five minutes. Without objection so ordered.

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  • 12:46:49 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    so ordered. Mr Speaker unlike my distinguished colleague from Nebraska Mr…

    so ordered. Mr Speaker unlike my distinguished colleague from Nebraska Mr Osborne. This member

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  • 12:46:51 PM

    MR. UNDERWOOD

    unlike my distinguished colleague from Nebraska Mr Osborne. This member…

    unlike my distinguished colleague from Nebraska Mr Osborne. This member comes to the floor . To urge his

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  • 12:46:57 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    colleagues to look at the facts when it comes to the issue of arsenic in…

    colleagues to look at the facts when it comes to the issue of arsenic in drinking water. The Bush administration's recent actions on this matter have led to heated rhetoric . Wild

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  • 12:47:04 PM

    MR. BEREUTER

    have led to heated rhetoric . Wild

  • 12:47:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    exaggerations and sound by politics . I suppose

  • 12:47:08 PM

    MR. BEREUTER

    . I suppose that was predictable since the word arsenic. Is soul and…

    . I suppose that was predictable since the word arsenic. Is soul and motion loaded. It's important I believe to get the full story. And to listen to the. Who would be most affected by the proposed changes. Many state and local officials as well as . Water System administrators . Have expressed concerns about the problems which could be caused by the proposed changes . This member would begin by firmly stating that . Of course . Everyone recognizes the importance of providing safe drinking water. For all of our nation's citizens. Also some changes in the arsenic standard may well be justified. However it makes no sense to base those changes . On anything like a motion . Instead they should be based on sound science . As many of us now know. In the final days of the Clinton administration. A final rule was rushed through which would have reduced the acceptable level of arsenic in drinking water from fifty parts per billion . To ten parts per billion. However new E.P.A. Administrator Christie Todd Whitman . Later announced that the agency would seek a scientific review of the standard. Before implementing a new rule. The Bush administration has made it clear that the arsenic level will be significantly reduced. However it wants the final rule to be based on sound science . It certainly appears that the Clinton ministration made an arbitrary decision based upon questionable studies . Most of which involve populations in other countries . Which were exposed to significantly higher levels of arsenic . Than those found the United States. On the other hand the E.P.A. seems to dismiss the most comprehensive us Betty. On this matter . In one nine hundred ninety nine study in Utah which involve more than five thousand people failed to find any. Incidence of cancer . Associated with arsenic in drinking water. It's certainly not the intent of this member to treat lightly the possible adverse health effects of arsenic. However this member believes that accurate and relevant studies. Should be reviewed before water systems especially those with limited resources . Are full are forced to make such substantial investments in infrastructure and treatment. Smaller communities would have been especially hard hit by the implementation of the proposed arsenic level. Arsenic levels and York Brassica. My birthplace for example. A community of about seventy five hundred people are at thirty four parts per billion and initial cost to meet the new standard. Would be six million dollars during the brassica with a level of only thirteen parts per billion . Only three points. Over the arbitrary level set by the rule . Would be compelled to spend about four point four million dollars. Overall more than three thousand community water systems United States would have to come into compliance . And the rule would have more than tripled water. Rates in many small communities. Now this member believes that communities will be willing to spend the money necessary to address this matter. If they were convinced that they would see actual health benefits by making the changes. According to an April fourteenth two thousand and one article in The New York Times. Albuquerque New Mexico as mayor Jim. A Democrat stated . Quote. What we would like is some definitive scientific evidence that this would be worth doing a pretty strong and environmentalist. But I was convinced that the data didn't justify the new level and of quote. It's important to listen to utility superintendents. City Administrator . Village boards mayors and other local and state officials including public health officials who are concerned about the effect the proposed rule. And its associated costs would have on their communities . These are people who have a powerful incentive to provide safe drinking water since they and their constituents will be drinking that water . These community leaders know where the buck. Stops. They certainly would not subject themselves and their families and friends to harmful water. Quite simply these local officials have not been convinced. Of the need to lower the our stick to the level proposed by the Clinton administration. It's also helpful to note that any community in the country . Now has the authority to lower . Arsenic in its drinking water to whatever level it chooses below fifty parts per billion. The reason communities have not. Lowered their levels to ten parts per billion. Is that the health benefits have not been shown to justify the enormous cost the American Water. Works Association stated his comments last year. Quote . At the level of canned P.P.P. or lower. The health risk reduction benefits become vanishingly small as compared to the cost. The cost. However. Are real the American Water Works Association which supports a reduction in the current arsenic standard as estimated the proposed rule would cost six hundred million annually . And require five billion dollars in capital outlays. In an ideal world. With unlimited resources . It may make sense to propose changes in the hope that they may provide a benefit . However of their reality is that communities do not have an unlimited funds. Everyone deserves safe drinking water dismember urges his colleagues. To listen to state a local officials. On how to provide it. Thank you Mr Speaker . The gentleman's time has expired . The chair now recognizes the gentlewoman from Texas . Miss Jackson Lee for five minutes . Without objection so or.

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  • 12:52:26 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    The speaker this morning I wish to address the necessity for this house to…

    The speaker this morning I wish to address the necessity for this house to balance its priorities and to begin to move forward its legislative agenda .

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  • 12:52:34 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    to move forward its legislative agenda .

  • 12:52:37 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Before I do that let me associate myself with the remarks of. Congressman…

    Before I do that let me associate myself with the remarks of. Congressman Underwood . And thank him for

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  • 12:52:43 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    bringing to the floor and. Dropping today legislation that will allow the…

    bringing to the floor and. Dropping today legislation that will allow the printing of a book. Honoring Asian and Pacific Islanders. Americans in Congress . Particularly as we celebrate the history of our Asian American friends. This is a very country and we reflect the wonderfulness of that diversity . As we do that as well Mrs Speaker let me say that I am disturbed and concerned. Today we will rush to judgment having missed . Two pages of the budget last week and having to delay it to Tuesday . To support a budget resolution . That includes an enormous tax cut. But fails to include two hundred ninety four billion dollars for what we have all come to know . As a very important issue and that is the education of our children. But this budget we know that we will be invading the Medicare and Social Security trust fund. By the year two thousand and eleven . I would have hoped that we would have been more timely with this budget. Giving us more time to debate it. And focusing on issues like making sure that. Uninsured children uninsured Americans have health care. Providing prescription drug coverage the way it should be . And including the two hundred ninety four billion dollars for our educational needs. Collaborating with our local governments and local school boards . Tragically a nother violent act at school occurred in Alaska elementary school. This is children's mental health. Month. And I'm delighted to be able to focus on the need for mental health services for all of Americans. But as well to focus on the needs of our children. And I would like to see more. In school health clinics throughout children to be able to access services for both their physical health needs immunization . But as well . Their mental health needs . I believe that as we move forward to address the question of our foreign authorization bill. We will need to seriously debate the question of the laws of the United States seat on the Human Rights Council in the United Nations. Many of my colleagues will rise in distress and anger. Saying that we should no longer be associated with the United Nations. We should be cautious . And certainly we should be understanding of the fact that the United Nations now stands as the only entity where so many countries have so many diverse and disparate viewpoints. Actually can talk to each other and even though. It is a very disturbing act . To have lost the seat. We too have to look at the policy of the United States as relates to the nonpayment of its dues . And its actions over the last couple of months that suggest that. It's where all associates . Are unhappy . But we must not step away from fighting for human rights . And we must insist that human rights. Becomes the call of the day for all nations including China and Sudan and many others. I want to thank and. Graduates. Senator. Ellis and Representative Thompson of the state of Texas for getting through the Senate and the house a hate crimes . Legislative initiative. And I raise that point because it is long overdue for the United States of America. Congress to pass real hate crimes legislation to say. And make a statement to those who would do he as acts on the basis of someone's difference. That we will not tolerate that in America. It still goes on in Texas. It still goes on in states across this nation . And I think that we are long overdue for getting hate crimes legislation . To the floor of the house. We do understand that there has been movement in the Cincinnati . Occurrences the tragedy of having had fifteen African-American males shot by the police since one thousand nine hundred five . I think it is important that the attorney general that is now indicated that there will be a civil rights investigation . Do it. Expeditiously and quickly . And begin to heal and solve those problems by insisting that the police department the community work closely together. Finally let me say Mr Speaker there are several. Enormously important issues that we're dealing with as relates to the energy crisis . We are not doing enough in this Congress. We're not doing enough in the administration . And by simply saying. Handle it yourself . It is not going to go away. And I believe it is time to help Americans with gasoline prices . I believe it is time to be able to provide dollars for those who will be over heat it. In the summer. More additional funding for my heat dollars in the state of Texas in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. We lost one hundred thirty plus citizens. Because of the heat. And not being able to provide the dollars they needed for utility costs . Or even having air conditioners. And I think certainly we should be helping with the brownouts. Conservation is important. Exploration is important within reason. But we must have emergency relief now. For those who are experiencing the energy crisis because it is here. Mrs Speaker I think that we can focus on a lot of prior. Yes And we're not doing so and even as we watch the various layoffs of individuals across this nation they're asking for the Congress to act. Don't look at the layoffs and ignore them and say it's not in my state. Just like you should not look at the energy crisis and ignore it and say it is not in my state. Thank you very much Mr Speaker I believe we have priorities. We should act on and I yield back my time. The gentlewoman's time has expired the chair now recognizes the gentleman from Florida. Mr Stearns for five minutes. The speaker . Many say as California goes so goes the rest of the nation.

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  • 12:58:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    nation. Considering that. I

  • 12:58:08 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    would like to bring to my colleagues attention. A new study of public…

    would like to bring to my colleagues attention. A new study of public education spending in California . The study

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  • 12:58:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . The study reveals that the generally accepted. Per pupil spending figure…

    . The study reveals that the generally accepted. Per pupil spending figure of six thousand seven hundred dollars for California students significantly.

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  • 12:58:20 PM

    MR. STEARNS

    students significantly. Underestimate the actual per pupil spending…

    students significantly. Underestimate the actual per pupil spending figure. There's proximately eighty five hundred dollars more over two out of five . Two out of every five public school dollars are spent on bureaucracy and overhead rather than on classroom. Instructions and. Internal legal squabbles drain education dollars from the system. The authors Dr Bohn Steen. Of San Francisco an accountant. Carl Brot. Of Berkeley intended . That their analysis . To be a nonpartisan one. Bonds Dean. Is a Democrat . And brought is a Republican. I would share some of the key findings of the study title quote where is all the money going end quote bureaucrats and overhead in California's public schools. Together with the author's proposal for decreasing bureaucracy and enhancing accountability . First consider that inflation adjusted spending on public education in California has increased by thirty nine percent. Since one nine hundred seventy eight. Nevertheless textbooks are frequently on available. School Libraries have been shut down and. Art and music programs . Have been terminated . The authors conclude quote This is primarily because of the explode. In spending on administration and overhead end quote. Approximately forty percent of California's K. twelve tax dollars are spent on bureaucracy and overhead. Not. Classroom instructions . This figure. Comes not just from the bonds Dean brought analysis. But also from previous studies conducted by the Rand Corporation . And the little Hoover Commission. For levels of administration run K. twelve schools in California. And they act as though they are separate fight them as they quarrel frequently. And often those disagreements and lawsuits among the bureaucratic five times. The taxpayers picking up the tab for lawyers on both sides. The California Department of Education the State Department of Education. Maintain. Legal councils. To sue each other. This report study. Presents a sample state board of education agenda . Listing. Thirty lawsuits confronting the state board . Seven of those pit . One layer of the education. Bureaucracy. Against another layer. And one set of lawsuits the San Francisco Unified School District and the State Depart of education have squared off . Over by lingual education. The start testing statute mandates to children who have been in the United States. At least a year be tested in English . The presumption being they should have learned English by then. But the San Francisco School District contends. It must test. Immigrant students in their non english native language. San Francisco is the only district. Making that claim . But taxpayers must cover the cost of that legal. Spat. Even more troubling is a special education programs for children with mental and physical handicaps. Are plagued by bureaucratic gridlock. At the federal state county and local level as well as by UN funded mandates from the federal and state levels. Parents of special ed children have no effective . Boyce in program decision making. Local Citizens have diminishing power to influence local school policy since. Almost two thirds of education tax dollars. Now are funneled through the states. In addition. While the federal government furnishes just six percent of education funding. Its requirements accounted for close to half of all education paperwork. Lisa key again . State Superintendent for Arizona schools. Has said it takes one hundred sixty five members of her staff . Forty five percent of the total . Just to manage federal programs. The report study notes bureaucracies and all levels. Invariably . Under state trooper student. Spending at the national level the figures released by the National Center for Education Statistics are usually. The current expenditures number. Which does not account for the cost of school buildings or interest payments on school bonds. And California . The spending statistics are even more deceptive. The study authors charge . The all inclusive and thus more accurate figure for all. Per pupil spending in California . Is approximately eighty five hundred dollars per student . More than twenty five. More than twenty five percent higher. Using a low figure the California N.E.A. affiliate. As advocated hefty spending increases for the express purpose of raising the state's per pupil spending above the national average. The best hope for decreasing bureaucracy and enhancing accountability. The bonds Diena brought. Report concludes. Is school choice of various kinds. They know for example the California's public charter schools that easy out poor form. Traditional public schools. Were operating on about sixty percent of the birth student funding the charters have accomplished his efficiency by cutting the bureaucratic overhead. Thank you. Pursuant pursuant to clause twelve of rule one. The chair declares the house in recess until two P.M. today . Says completed morning hours. And recessed until legislator for it begins at two P.M. Eastern. At that time. Members

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  • 01:03:48 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    will consider a resolution honoring the National Science Foundation . On…

    will consider a resolution honoring the National Science Foundation . On its fiftieth anniversary and a measure to allow use of the U.S. Capitol. For the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers Memorial service members are expected to hold off consideration. Of two motions dealing with the fiscal year two thousand and two budget. Until later in the day . About five

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    . And a resolution to allow use of the U.S. Capitol for the National Peace…

    . And a resolution to allow use of the U.S. Capitol for the National Peace Officers Memorial Service. Also today the fiscal year two thousand and two federal budget. But members are expected to hold off consideration of. Two motions on that resolution until about five P.M. Eastern. Also electronic votes requested on any of the issues today . Going to be held until after six. Eastern time. Now our live coverage of the U.S. House . House will be in order . The prayer will be offered by the guest chaplain . Reverend Thomas. A coon Church of the Incarnation Dayton Ohio.

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  • 02:00:14 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    the Incarnation Dayton Ohio. Let us pray. Father we can never thank you…

    the Incarnation Dayton Ohio. Let us pray. Father we can never thank you enough for the many blessings you've given to us as a people who gave all your children the same rights as people . And

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  • 02:00:25 PM

    THE CHAPLAIN

    your children the same rights as people . And at the same time have given…

    your children the same rights as people . And at the same time have given us the means to safeguard those rights. Give us the strength to reach out to those who are unable to safeguard their rights . You have made us a powerful people . May we always be gentle enough to lift up the fallen and prepared enough to protect the weak and defenseless. You are blessed us richly. Maybe always generously share those blessings with your children who are poor. You have given us a beautiful land. May we nurture and preserve it. So that those who follow us . Can always see your goodness. Much of what has been given to us . Has been intrusted to the members of this great house. Give them a world vision. So that they may work for the good of all your children. Amen. The chair has examine the Journal of the last days proceedings and announces to the house his approval there are. Pursuant to Clause one rule one. The

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  • 02:01:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    journal stands approved. The pledge will be led by the gentlewoman from…

    journal stands approved. The pledge will be led by the gentlewoman from Texas . Miss JOHNSON . Likely. Just look this is what you get is a little bit of it for what purpose is a gentleman from Ohio writes.

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    MS. JOHNSON

    of it for what purpose is a gentleman from Ohio writes. Just to grandstand…

    of it for what purpose is a gentleman from Ohio writes. Just to grandstand this consent to address the house for one minute. Without objection.

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    Today. It is my privilege to walk in Father Thomas Kuhn as our guest…

    Today. It is my privilege to walk in Father Thomas Kuhn as our guest chaplain Father Thomas currently pastor of the Church of incarnation.

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    Father Thomas currently pastor of the Church of incarnation.

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    the Church of incarnation.

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    In Centerville Ohio. One of the largest Catholic parishes . In the…

    In Centerville Ohio. One of the largest Catholic parishes . In the archdiocese of Cincinnati Father Cutie's been pastor at incarnation since one nine hundred eighty nine. He is leading a delegation of some seventy five eighth graders from incarnation school which has won the U.S. Department of Education's Blue Ribbon School Board . For excellence several times most recently in one thousand nine hundred nine. A number of the students from incarnation are with us this afternoon and watching these proceedings from the gallery. We want to welcome you. And I'm sure my colleague from Dayton. Mr HALL. Will join me in a walk I mean. Father CONAN all of you. To the Capitol today. Father John is the former principal of Cincinnati's. Elder high school . And the former assistant pastor of St John's Church and. West Chester Ohio . And it was during that time that I came to know him. And he remains a great friend today. And please join me in father. Welcoming father queuing as our guest chaplain. And the students . Of incarnation . School as they explore our nation's capital. Gentleman's time has expired the chair will remind the members that they are not to address. The members in the gallery.

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    The chair will. Announces that it will recognize members from both sides…

    The chair will. Announces that it will recognize members from both sides for a. One minute speeches . For what purposes the gentleman from Ohio writes. Up . Without objection . Is bigger government. Investigator said and I quote.

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    MR. TRAFICANT

    There's no conspiracy by petroleum come. Need to raise. Gas prices in…

    There's no conspiracy by petroleum come. Need to raise. Gas prices in America. Unbelievable. Who's there . Gas prices are over two dollars a gallon . And in addition it just seems every weekend. They use raise them twenty five cents a gallon . Just for the sake of it. Now that's not enough to. Flatulent your rectangle. Do all companies announce that gas prices will hit three dollars a gallon this summer . Big game me up Mr Speaker . Those so-called government investigators are either on the payroll of those oil companies. Or they're smoking dope . I yield back the biggest ripoff in the history of the United States of America . Gentleman yield back the balance of his time for what purposes gentleman from Michigan writes an A plus permission to revoke . Without objection.

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    Mr Speaker.

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    Through you to the president's commission on Social Security .

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    .

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    Many of us are very concerned that. We are going to review a proposal.…

    Many of us are very concerned that. We are going to review a proposal. That might not keep Social Security solvent for the next hundred years. So why I think it's important that we urged the president . That we urge this commission . To come back to this legislative body with a proposal that. Schooling to at least keep Social Security solvent for the next seventy five years. So security is a pay as you go program it's going broke as we experience all the decline in the birth rate . And in an increase in the longevity the length of time people live. A serious problem it's a good problem for a good program for America. We need to protect it. Thank you Mr Speaker . Gentleman's time has expired for what purpose the gentleman from Illinois runs this case enterprise extend. Without objection Johnson. Recognized

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    for one minute. Mr Speaker twenty one of my bipartisan colleagues and I…

    for one minute. Mr Speaker twenty one of my bipartisan colleagues and I introduced my first bill. A measure

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    introduced my first bill. A measure

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    bill. A measure important for the education . Of military

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    children . Our bill is called Grade eight the government reservation…

    children . Our bill is called Grade eight the government reservation accelerated development for Education Act. And it guarantees that federally impacted schools receive the dollars they need from the impact aid program . Mr Speaker over five thousand military personnel qualify for food stamps and people who wear their country's uniform sometimes fall below the poverty line. While their kids go to schools financially teetering on the edge. As we boost. Military pay and housing we must also care for military kids . Over ninety percent of the funding for education comes from local funds from the funds such as property taxes. But what happens if that property is owned by the federal government and. Off the tax rolls . Kids report to class with no property tax dollars needed for their school grade. A guarantees that the federal government will step in to ensure that these kids have the resources they need for their education. It ensures that when the military and other children from federal property report for a school that they are welcomed in a good school. Sound financial backing . Gray day has been endorsed by the National Association of federally impacted schools and many school administrators across the nation. As we make education our priority. Let us remember the children of men and women in uniform Thank you Mr Speaker what purpose does a gentleman from Nevada right . Arms. That objection the gentleman's recognition. Thank you Mr Speaker ladies and gentlemen of the house United States was built upon and by small family owned businesses and America is today known for its unique.

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    businesses and America is today known for its unique.

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    MR. GIBBONS

    businesses and America is today known for its unique. Entrepreneurial…

    businesses and America is today known for its unique. Entrepreneurial spirit. Even today in the era of corporate mergers small businesses remain the cornerstone Yes the foundation of our economy . They employ. Fifty three percent of our workforce and account for ninety nine point seven percent of the nation's employers. Yet burdensome regulations a complex tax code. And it. Inacceptable . Health care system have been stifling the ability of small businesses. To remain viable and successful. As a Congress we need to ensure that the entrepreneurial spirit . That built this country does not diminish due to an unfair tax and regulatory system. I encourage my colleagues to support small business owners. In their pursuit of the American dream . I yield back . All the unfair taxes regulations that have served as obstacles for the small businesses which make our nation. Great. And prosperous. For what purpose does the gentleman from Indiana right. I don't check.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Mr Speaker I rise today to call the House's attention to our country's…

    Mr Speaker I rise today to call the House's attention to our country's most vital economic sector.

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    call the House's attention to our country's most vital economic sector.

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    sector. Our small businesses.

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    MR. PENCE

    Each year for the past thirty eight years the president has issued a…

    Each year for the past thirty eight years the president has issued a proclamation . Calling for the celebration of National Small Business Week. This year National Small Business Week which is sponsored by the S.B.A. is being held right now. Mr Speaker this year's celebration will honor the estimated twenty five point five million small businesses in America . That employ more than half the country's private workforce. Create three out of every four new jobs . And generate a majority of American innovations . Small Business Week. Also recognizes outstanding small business owners. All across America. For their personal achievements and contributions to our economy . From this group in Indiana. The Indiana small business person of the year is Joseph. A Backman. He's the owner of home lumber and Glen Ford lumber company. He's a retail lumber and land development concern that's grown steadily . Under his leadership and become a successful business in Indiana . Today Mr Speaker I want to congratulate Mr Beckman and all the winners from across America who work long hours and make huge sacrifices. To build family small businesses that are the backbone of this economy. Thank you Mr Speaker I yield back the balance of my time. Gentleman's time has expired for what purposes gentleman from Minnesota writes.

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    Mark. Without objection gentleman's recognized for one minute.

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    Thank you. Today I rise to congratulate. James.

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    Todd rather of Fairmont Minnesota. Todd will be in Washington this week .…

    Todd rather of Fairmont Minnesota. Todd will be in Washington this week . To receive the

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    MR. KENNEDY

    Washington this week . To receive the star of life award. The stars of…

    Washington this week . To receive the star of life award. The stars of light . Is an American ambulance. Program to honor dedicated professionals . In the ambulance service industry. Todd who is a registered paramedic. As a team captain. For Fairmont. Gold Cross ambulance services . Has been selected as one of three E.M.'s professionals in Minnesota to receive this honor . E.M.'s providers. Are the safety net . Of the health care system in rural areas like the Minnesota district I represent . Where physicians and other health care providers do not exist in every community . E.M.'s provides the public their only access point. To quality health care . That is why. I introduced. H.R. three thirteen fifty three. The sustaining access to vital Emergency Medical Services Act. To help our emails providers . Every day. E.M.T. S. and paramedics are heroes in their communities . I want to thank Todd for his commitment to serving his community. It is people like Todd rather. Who give selflessly of themselves . That make our communities . A better place to live. I yield back my time. Gentleman's time has expired . For some of the clause eight of rule twenty of the chair announces that he will postpone further proceedings today on each motion. To

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    today on each motion. To suspend rules the on which I recorded vote for…

    today on each motion. To suspend rules the on which I recorded vote for the a's and nays are ordered or on which the vote is objected to under Clause six of rule twenty. Any recorded votes on postponed postponed questions. Will be taken after debate has concluded on all motions to suspend the rules. But not before six P.M. today . For what purpose does the gentleman from Michigan writes. Mr Speaker I'm going to suspend the rules and pass age Conrads want to wait. Honoring the National Science Foundation for fifty years of service for our nation . A clerk will

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    MR. SMITH

    . A clerk will report the title of the concurrent resolution. House…

    . A clerk will report the title of the concurrent resolution. House concurrent resolution want to wait. Concurrent resolution honoring the National Science Foundation for fifty years of service to the nation.

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    for fifty years of service to the nation.

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    THE CLERK

    Pursuant to the rule the gentleman from Michigan Mr Smith than the from…

    Pursuant to the rule the gentleman from Michigan Mr Smith than the from gentlewoman Texas. Miss. Eddie Bernice Johnson

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    will each control twenty minutes. The chair now recognizes the gentleman…

    will each control twenty minutes. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Michigan. Mr Speaker first. Unanimous consent request that all members have five legislative days . Within which to revise and extend the remarks on age Conrad's want to wait.

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    MR. SMITH

    remarks on age Conrad's want to wait. Without objection . And Mr Speaker I…

    remarks on age Conrad's want to wait. Without objection . And Mr Speaker I would yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr Speaker I rise today to offer this resolution . H.

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    Speaker I rise today to offer this resolution . H.

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    MR. SMITH

    offer this resolution . H. Con. Rez want to wait. Honoring the National…

    offer this resolution . H. Con. Rez want to wait. Honoring the National Science Foundation for fifty years of service to our nation. As chairman of the Science Committee. On research . In the science committee. Which is responsible for oversight. And authorization of the National Science Foundation. I wanted to take a few moments to mention some of the highlights of this highly successful . And yet. Often unappreciated agency. Congress and President Harry S. Truman established the National Science Foundation . On May tenth one thousand nine hundred fifty. To fund research in the basic sciences engineering mathematics and technology. Is the federal government's only. Agency dedicated to the support of education . And fundamental research. In all scientific disciplines . From physics and math to. Zoology in anthropology for fifty years . And as self sponsored research has developed . The finest science . And new technologies that have boosted our economic productivity. Enhanced our national. Security and preserve our citizens. Health and well being throughout its history . And as self . Provided support to thousands of researchers and students across the nation . In university labs in our schools in our industry . Support that has fostered innovation. Technical achievement and a greater understanding of our world . And our universe . From the depths of space to the depths of the ocean . From the North Pole to the South Pole around the globe and how South funded research. Has helped explain our world and lead to innovations that have forever changed it. The Internet. For example and the technologies that enable it begin in part because of N.S.F. support for networking technologies and S.F. funded a network linking computer science departments then moved on to develop a high speed back call bone called the. And a South net . That became the basis for what is now the Internet and S.F. supported research. Has also led to miracle drugs . Vaccinations cellphones. And even bar codes. That readers in supermarkets . Now use. N.S.F. supports potentially lifesaving research. In developing the dog Doppler but in the research. Of weather prediction using the Doppler radar. Earthquake hazard mitigation and identification. Of causes of the spread of the deadly hanta virus. And the days that have to laugh . It's research in nanotechnology. Advanced Materials biotechnology and countless other areas. Are setting the foundation for the technologies of the future. And in the process of training the scientists engineers and technology enter printers of tomorrow. Today we congratulate N.S.F. on fifty years of service to the United States. And for its many contributions to our current. Prosperity. But we also read. Affirm our commitment as a Congress to support N.S.F. in the future in its diverse research and educational activities . And of staffs peer review system where grants are reviewed by a panel of researchers in the field to judge the merits of research. Is a model of how research should be evaluated at all other federal agencies. We must also strive to ensure that N.S.F. invests in a broad range of science. In order to support the critical work . Of well funded. Mission agencies like the Department of fans and the National Institute of Health. It's important that we continue to support an eye south . As part of a balanced federal research poor fellow Leo and recognize that the basic science supported by N.S.F.. Forms the foundation for research . At all other federal research agencies. And for the applied innovations and productivity increases in the private sector . My colleagues . And I on the subcommittee will keep this goal in mind as we work towards our reauthorization of N.S.F.. And we will keep it in mind as we work with the administration . And the appropriators. To work and craft. A balanced research budget . I'd like to thank the ranking member of the research. Subcommittee Eddie Bernice Johnson . A co-sponsor of this resolution and for all her work in support of an AS self. And I'd also like to thank the other co-sponsors of this resolution . And certainly . My friend Senator John McCain and the one thousand Senate co-sponsors of ass Conrad's thirty six. The companion resolution . And certainly I would like to thank both the Republican and Democratic staffs. On our subcommittee and the full science committee for their. Untiring work. Mr Speaker the N.S.F. is nearing completion . In two more days of its fiftieth year of service to our nation . With this resolution this. Will recognize this important anniversary . And express our hope for at least another fifty years. Of continued. Innovation and education. Thank you and I urge my colleagues to support this resolution and reserve the balance of my time. Gentleman reserves the balance of this time the gentlewoman from Texas was not recognized . Thank you Mr Speaker

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    I yield myself such time as I might from some gentleman is recognized . Mr…

    I yield myself such time as I might from some gentleman is recognized . Mr Speaker the National Science Foundation Act of one thousand nine hundred fifty. That

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    MS. JOHNSON

    Act of one thousand nine hundred fifty. That created the National Science…

    Act of one thousand nine hundred fifty. That created the National Science Foundation directs the agency into an issue eight and support basic scientific research . And to strengthen

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    issue eight and support basic scientific research . And to strengthen

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    MS. JOHNSON

    issue eight and support basic scientific research . And to strengthen…

    issue eight and support basic scientific research . And to strengthen scientific research potential. And science education programs at all levels . I am pleased to rise in support of this resolution that salutes the National Science Foundation on its accomplishments and a success and carried out this mission for the past fifty years. I think the gentleman from Michigan for putting forth this time a resolution . The National Science Foundation plays a unique and. Critical role in the nation's research and education enterprise . Its sponsors research that helps to field a storehouse of fundamental knowledge about the natural world . Without regard for immediate application of these new ideas and concepts and. Equally important. The National Science Foundation supports the development of the nation's human resource base in science and engineering . In short the National Science Foundation is charged with helping to create the underpinnings . For the nation's future technological competence and therefore. For its economic strength and security. The N.A.S.A.'s record of accomplishment doing this fifty year history is remarkable in itself support it research have collected one hundred Nobel Prizes . They have received recognition for work in the fields of physics chemistry . Busy ology in medicine and economics. National Science Foundation contributions and part manifested through the accomplished. Of scientists and engineers who were trained under the N.S.F. awards. It is well known that the great majority of the seminal work in developing such technologies and sale phones. Fiber optics computer assisted design . Was performed by private industry. And labs like Corning eighty and T. and Motorola. A recent in history of sponsored study has shown that many scientists and engineers who went to graduate school on N.S.F. fellowships and research. Assistance years. Often played important roles in the development of bees and other technologies in a number of cases they became the entrepreneurs' who created new firms and markets . To use the words of the authors of study. In S.F. emerges consistently as a major often. The major source of support for education and training . Of the Ph D. scientists and engineers who went on to make major contributions . The resources that N.S.F. provides for support of research and education are relatively small but the impact is great the agency expands only three point eight percent of the federal R. and D. funds . But provides twenty three percent . Of basic research funding at academic institutions for specific research areas the not. National Science Foundation role and university is even larger. It's on its thirty six percent of research in the physical scientists . Forty man percent in the environmental scientist. Fifty percent in engineering and seventy two percent and in mathematics and seventy eight percent in computers science. The research awards and research fellowships help train over twenty four thousand graduate students each year. These are the future scientists and engineers who are essential to fuel I had to take economy . Further they enhance their programs here to improve science education for all students and pair them for citizenship in a world increasingly dominated. Our technology . Today we continue to have a manpower shortage in many of our technology fields. The ideal way to alleviate the shortage is by ensuring that children of all races and both genders receive. The basic grounding in science and mathematics that will prepare them to pursue careers as scientists engineers and technologies . Intercept programs address this need . Because of the importance of N.A.S.A.'s role and research in education. It is essential that the agency receive an adequate resources . Consequently I'm extremely disappointed by the fiscal year two thousand and two budget request in S.F. which provides only one percent increase. This is much less than what is needed to sustain the N.S.F. own Gorin programs. And today's Congress Daily a story mentioned how science funding is increased over the years to Bush's request. Wow this is true. It is less than half the story. The Conference. Cut out for hunting for SAS below in a member's request in either chamber and below what. President Bush asked for and. Every year . But this year . The House requested six hundred seventeen million more than the side the Senate requested. One point two one five billion more . Indeed over five years the conference agreement is nearly two hundred million less than the president's anemic numbers for budget authority. The only positive number from the conference agreement. Is the fiscal year two budget authority. Number being two hundred seventeen million above the president's request. Every other number is negative meaning the conference agreement is lower than Mr Bush's request . The House passed bill and the Senate passed a bill and how ironic it is now that we stand here today and honor the National Science Foundation but at best. Hold their budget below. Inflation. Inadequate in the size of the National sound basis . National Science Foundation current budget are evident by the fair. Agency currently farms less than a third of the research applications it receives. Only about half of those judged to be hack quality . Even when an applicant receives the national stamps. Foundation Award . It is usually served optimal. And perhaps hair. The amount of it and I each award . The current situation leaves researchers . In is funded field scrambling for funds and spend too much time chasing limited front end rather than in the laboratory or mentoring students in order to address this present situation . I along with sixty sixteen. Of my science committee colleagues recently introduced . The National Science Foundation authorization bill H.R. fourteen seventy two bedroom rise increases of fifteen percent per year for fiscal years two thousand and two through two thousand through two thousand and five . The bill will double the N.S.F. budget based on fiscal year two thousand appropriations level. Such increases are necessary to allow the national Samford Science Foundation go forward with substantial new research initiatives provide needed increases an average grant size and duration. And support. Needed major research facilities for access to academic scientists . Equally important. A more robust budget for N.S.F. will support expansion of the agency's science education programs are particularly important programs to improve the skills and content knowledge of K. through to a of science and math teachers . And to increase participation and science and engineering by traditionally under represented groups. Is also important to expand education research programs. And clued in qualifying the most effective use of educational technology and strengthening efforts. To assess education programs to determine and disseminate information about what methods. And approaches. Are most effective in improving. Student performance and science . And there . It is entirely appropriate that the House and Doris the resolution now my consideration which celebrates the past accomplishments of the National Science Foundation . However it is much much greater importance that we ensure that the foundation receives the necessary resources now . And in the future to carry out this role and support of scientific . Engineering Research and Education . When funding me if I debated during the coming months . At hope all of my colleagues remember the foundation Sampat during the last fifty years . And the promise. Represented by its current programs. Mr Speaker I command . To my colleagues this resolution . Honoring the National Science Foundation and for their support for found passage . This fifty year report . Speaks to America's investment in the future. That's what we're talking about. When we talk about the funding for the National Science Foundation and preserve the balance of matter over time. The gentleman from Michigan . Mr Speaker I yield . Four minutes to the vice chairman of our coal science committee the gentleman from Minnesota.

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    vice chairman of our coal science committee the gentleman from Minnesota.

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    MR. SMITH

    Mr Gold. Good luck. Gentleman from Minnesota's recognize performance . Let…

    Mr Gold. Good luck. Gentleman from Minnesota's recognize performance . Let me thank the gentleman for yielding to recognize and congratulate the National Science Foundation . On its

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    recognize and congratulate the National Science Foundation . On its

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    MR. GUTKNECHT

    . On its fiftieth anniversary. What is very important to all of. Into…

    . On its fiftieth anniversary. What is very important to all of. Into future generations of America. The National sound Science Foundation was created to promote the progress of science for health economic and defense purposes through basic research . Now basic research is critical to the future of this country. Because it serves as a building block for other research. That many times private industry will not or cannot afford to do . This base of innovation provides. Provided by the N.S.F.. Can then be utilized and built upon by private industry and help develop new sectors for our economy. Research and discoveries made and supported by the N.S.F.. Effect our daily lives from down Doppler radar systems . To magnetic resonance . Resonant. To am our eyes . To all kinds of innovations which we enjoy today in America and supports research in development in science and engineering through various partnerships . From the elementary to the universal. University level as well as small business and nonprofit organizations by providing grants to help fund these projects . In the end America depends on science science fuels our economic booms medical successes and national security . Over fifty percent of our future economic growth will come from developments . Resulting from scientific research . N.S.F. has a strong connection to my home state of Minnesota . Last year three hundred one new N.S.F. awards went to Minnesota and so far this year. There are currently four hundred. To active awards ongoing in Minnesota. Various universities and colleges . From the University of Minnesota down to the smaller schools such as Carlton and saying all of in my district. Are contributing important research and science. And in areas like mathematics and engineering. N.S.F. crucial role in notable accom complements include. Helping universities because over forty percent of the basic funding for basic research. For physical sciences engineering and engineering comes from the N.S.F. N.S.F. helps to provide helps to fund projects at two thousand colleges universities and elementary schools as well as nonprofit organizations small businesses and other organizations each year and. Grants ten thousand new awards per year . And just under ten thousand new awards each year. And just under twenty thousand awards. Per year. No members a few years ago or a number of years ago there was a member of the other body. From a bordering state that every month gave out what he called the Golden Fleece Awards and many times he took advantage of some of the things that were being done at the N.S.F.. The truth of the matter is some of the wars that we grant here at the federal level. Ultimately are wasted. The problem of course is we never know which ones. One of the great researchers for an organization back in Minnesota from three M.. A fellow by the name of Jean fry. The person who invented the posted no. Once made a very brilliant observation. He said if we knew what we were doing . It wouldn't be research. And the truth of the matter is some of this basic research is high risk and we don't know which of these projects will pay enormous dividends . And which will not . But that research must go on. Nonetheless . And S.S. is. N.S.F. has supported thirty four thousand . Science mathematics and engineering students through its N.S.F. graduate research fellowship program . Federally supported research has revolutionized many. Areas including. Global Communications with accomplishments as have been mentioned as the Internet. Early web browsers and fiber optics . Mr Chairman . Members of the body . It is important that we recognize the N.F.L.. N.S.F.. It's also important we recognize that we need to continue to show our commitment I am hopeful that by the time. The final appropriation bills go to the president's desk. That we will be able to find additional funding so that the work of the National Science Foundation. Can go on. I yield back the balance of my time gentleman's time has expired . Who yields time. Gentlewoman from Texas . Miss began my staff.

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    The . Gentlewoman from Texas has eleven and one half minutes remaining.

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    MS. JOHNSON

    minutes remaining. And the gentleman from Michigan has thirteen minutes…

    minutes remaining. And the gentleman from Michigan has thirteen minutes remaining at like to make an ass exam for you taught me some math to send the to man and gentleman from the second district of Utah is recognized for two minutes fank you. I am

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    of Utah is recognized for two minutes fank you. I am

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    MS. JOHNSON

    recognized for two minutes fank you. I am pleased to join my colleagues as…

    recognized for two minutes fank you. I am pleased to join my colleagues as a co-sponsor house concurrent resolution want to weigh . This

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    want to weigh . This

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    MR. MATHESON

    recognition of the National Science Foundation is well deserved . For the…

    recognition of the National Science Foundation is well deserved . For the last fifty years the National Science Foundation has been the backbone of basic scientific research throughout the country. It has served as the clearinghouse for hundreds of thousands of grants for graduate research. Is led the way in supporting innovative programs and science for elementary and secondary schools . And it is filled a valuable role in coordinating scientific endeavors in a variety of fields . The value of basic scientific research is something we cannot overestimate . The mission of the National Science Foundation . Is to further science. Health prosperity. Welfare and national defense . Research through N.S.F. grants and scientific exchanges . Has been the basis of innovation in all of these arenas . It has provided the knowledge . The understanding . And then the development. To drive our increasingly technological society . This research has also been the basis of increased. Comfort. Longer lives and greater economic prosperity . Over the life of N.S.F.. Many national priorities including improved energy efficiency. Spaceflight . Improved health . And the mapping of the human genome . Have been pursued by N.S.F. grants. I generally speaking continue support of the National Science Foundation . It represents a valuable contribution . Of the federal government . To all of society . By you know back the balance of my time gentleman yields back the balance of his time the gentleman from Michigan. Mr Speaker I would yield three minutes. To the

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    gentle lady. For a Maryland. Connie Morella . Former chairman of our…

    gentle lady. For a Maryland. Connie Morella . Former chairman of our science Subcommittee on Technology knowledge chairman of the full committee on government reform.

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    MR. SMITH

    Technology knowledge chairman of the full committee on government reform.…

    Technology knowledge chairman of the full committee on government reform. Gentlewoman from Maryland is recognized for three minutes. I thank you gentleman and for his.

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    Elaborate introduction and. Mr Speaker with great pleasure that I rise as…

    Elaborate introduction and. Mr Speaker with great pleasure that I rise as a co-sponsor of H.

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    MRS. MORELLA

    as a co-sponsor of H. Conrad's want to wait. To congratulate the National…

    as a co-sponsor of H. Conrad's want to wait. To congratulate the National Science Foundation . On fifty years of exam for your service from his rocky start and bigger initial budgets. BLOOM to new is shining example of government success. Producing developments and innovations whose benefits of frankly a measurable . You need to economic or societal terms . From his creation in one nine hundred fifty the N.S.F. is grown from a relatively minor agencies. Which funded only a small portion of the meritorious proposals that it received to the primary source of support for non medical research at our nation's colleges and universities . Approximately eight hundred academic institutions receive funds from the National Science Foundation each year. Supporting thousands of research isn't projects . Developments from research originally funded by grants permeate . No American citizen. Can say that he has been unaffected by the advancements that science has wrought. From the common plastics that preserve. The complex microprocessors that drive our computer age. From natural discoveries in the environment to synthetic developments in the labs. From fossils to fiber optic optics. Been there the research. That led to these wondrous discoveries and lay the foundation for the discoveries of tomorrow. The National Science Foundation has also played a crucial role in the education of our nation's youth. Following the watershed event of Sputnik. In the direct support of students at the graduate level. To have been expanded to all levels of education . From kindergarten to the Ph D. . And it brought to the forefront of math and science education in the United States. Their continued efforts to critical to the development of the next generation of scientists and engineers . Grateful to the for its critical support of my commission. The advancement of women minorities and persons with disabilities in science engineering and technology . Its work . I have helped to establish federal partnerships. Partnerships with the private sector and with academia to fulfill its recommendations. As we look to the future. I hope the. Continue to play a prominent role in a report science the endless frontier which many credit for the formation of a national science policy . Than of a Bush noted. The front. Keeping with the American tradition. One which has made the United States great that the development by all American citizens unquote . His words and no less valid today. For the National Science Foundation has been there. Exploring that frontier . Discovery to the American people . To increase their budget. I want to thank Dr Reed a call well for her leadership. I want to thank all the employees of Venice and congratulate them on their fiftieth anniversary . And wish them luck for the next fifty years from being gentle lady's time has expired the gentlewoman from Texas . Thank You can see speak at length to make an as a gentleman from Texas Mr Benson for three minutes . The gentleman from

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    the Only twenty year old and I realize the strong support of the…

    the Only twenty year old and I realize the strong support of the resolution.

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    MS. JOHNSON

    strong support of the resolution. Mr Speaker . There's no question in my…

    strong support of the resolution. Mr Speaker . There's no question in my mind that the reason. Our

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    mind that the reason. Our

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    MR. BENTSEN

    economy has enjoyed such tremendous growth the over last eight or so eight…

    economy has enjoyed such tremendous growth the over last eight or so eight and a half years. And in particular growth and productivity is because of investments made in science. The vestments and information technology of revolutionize the workplace revolutionize manufacturing inventory management and allowed us to reduce unemployment . To record lows without having a rise in placement and so I think this makes a great deal of sense. To honor the National Science Foundation . And of course last year. The Congress after having gone through three years of working towards doubling the National Institutes of Health budget. Decided very wisely that we would try and double the National Science Foundation budget . Over a ten year period and in a bipartisan way we started down that road. This makes great sense because we shouldn't try and separate and I trim N.S.F.. They are complimentary some of the speakers talked about the human genome project part of which is being done in my district and. There is no question that some of the supercomputers that are used for that some of the super computer technology. Came through N.S.F. research in the same is true and Clinical Endocrinologists lab that I was in Methodist Hospital in my district. Just a couple of weeks ago . But Mr Speaker. The fact is we're going to pass this resolution maybe. Unanimously today or by an overwhelming vote . And then later on today we're going to pass a rule . And tomorrow we're probably going to pass a budget . That would actually caught the end. In real terms . And it seems to me that it is ironic that where a year ago and. With strong bipartisan support. The Congress started down the road. Of doubling the N.S.F. just as we have gone. In doubling the end I ate . And yet today and tomorrow . We're going to say we're going to cut the N.S.F. now. I know some of my colleagues have said well we hope that we'll get that worked out when the appropriations bills are done . Now that maybe says a lot about the quality of the budget document that we're going to. That we're going to take up tomorrow that perhaps that budget document. Can't hold the water. That it's supposed to hold . And we're not going to meet those spending targets because we're just going to we're going to pass as one political document and they're what we want to . But I think it is a grave mistake . To be making these cuts and I want to quote from a Nobel laureate who as you can see a constituent of mine. A professor at Rice University Dr Richard Smalley who won the Nobel Prize for inventing. Nanotechnology and. In the famous bucky balls . And in this article . He says . Promising ideas. Won't develop . If investments in key federal science agencies are slashed. And yet that is where this house and the other body. Are heading. And I think it is quite a shame that today we would vote to give the National Science Foundation and all the scientists around the country both at the big schools and the small schools and the labs that benefit from this. This very nice piece of paper from the Congress on parchment. Can I have an additional minute. Gentleman is recognized for one additional note is very nice piece of parchment . Honoring them for the fifty years of work that they've done . And then the next day say . We're going to cut your budget. In real terms . We're going to cut your budget we're not going to double the N.S.F.. I this think it is a. It is a grave mistake . That we're doing that. And if we're not doing that Mr Speaker . And I see my dear friend . From Michigan who I sat with on the Budget Committee for a number of years. And I know he believes strongly in the sanctity of the budget process . But if we're not going to do that then it means we're not passing a real budget tomorrow . That we're passing a document that has more holes in it than a slice of Swiss cheese so . I hope . Mr Speaker that. The House does pass this today . I hope that the house . Although I don't think it will happen . But has a stroke of wisdom and we defeat the budget resolution tomorrow. We go back and write a realistic one. That encompasses the bipartisan support in this house. And the other body. For increasing and doubling the National Science Foundation budget. Over the next ten years . Let's finish out the nine years left. And I think the gentle lady for yielding. Gentleman's time has expired the gentleman from Michigan. Miss figure I'd feel myself such time as I may consume. Gentlemen is

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    consume. Gentlemen is just and. I agree with my friend from Texas there…

    consume. Gentlemen is just and. I agree with my friend from Texas there needs to be a balanced.

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    MR. SMITH

    there needs to be a balanced. Effort in where we go on research certainly…

    there needs to be a balanced. Effort in where we go on research certainly . All of

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . All of the other agencies and departments that do research.

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    MR. SMITH

    agencies and departments that do research. Depend to a certain extent . On…

    agencies and departments that do research. Depend to a certain extent . On what happens with basic research and primary research . Mainly conducted through our universities systems through the National Science Foundation. However I would urge my colleagues including Mr Benson. To make those suggestions to the. Appropriators as he well knows the three o two a overall spending is incorporated in the budget resolution that will be taking up in the next two days . Three zero to be how to divide up that money . And where we go with the two fifty function. Is going to be decided through the appropriation process . And again . I would urge all of my colleagues to consider the importance of having a balanced research budget . And reserve the balance of my time . Does the gentleman reserve the balance of his time . I do. Gentlewoman from Texas . I miss the speaker Act like to yield .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Act like to yield . Thirty seconds for Mr Benson to and make a motion .…

    Act like to yield . Thirty seconds for Mr Benson to and make a motion . John I went

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    MR. SMITH

    Benson to and make a motion . John I went

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Benson to and make a motion . John I went

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    MS. JOHNSON

    make a motion . John I went through he said gently for you and I don't…

    make a motion . John I went through he said gently for you and I don't mean neglected to this I might ask Hammes to consent insert in the record immediately following my statement the article by. Dr

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    statement the article by. Dr

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    MR. BENTSEN

    by. Dr smally. Regarding the National Science Foundation upon. Budget.…

    by. Dr smally. Regarding the National Science Foundation upon. Budget. Without objection . And unfriend I replaced the tax and I you know man . Telenor from Texas yields back the balance of her time the gentleman from Michigan.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    of her time the gentleman from Michigan. Is recognized by Mr Speaker.

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    MS. JOHNSON

    Such time as I may consume but let me in closing just say.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    consume but let me in closing just say. I think we'd all like to also…

    consume but let me in closing just say. I think we'd all like to also thank the management and staff at the National Science Foundation certainly. The

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    MR. SMITH

    management and staff at the National Science Foundation certainly. The…

    management and staff at the National Science Foundation certainly. The director of the assistant directors who run the eight directorates. The many program directors support personnel. An estimated fifty thousand scientists and engineers . Throughout the country. That are making the research effort that are offering their time and service on the peer review system . And certainly the hundreds of thousands of teachers that are making a difference in exciting young students. About careers in math and science and research and engineering. Last week we had a subcommittee hearing where we're going on research to try to improve . The K. through twelve . Research efforts and certainly part of that effort . That's been a stimulus to all of the teachers that are trying to do a better job in math and education. Is the effort of the education and human resource effort of the National Science Foundation so. Again. Our staffs on our full committee and subcommittee. All of the members of our committee and my colleagues in Congress . Are who are supporting of the National Science Foundation . And its continued efforts and I yield back the balance of my time. Gentleman from Michigan yields back to DOLLAR. As of this time all time having expired the question is shall or will the house suspend the rules. And

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    agree to house concurrent resolution one zero eight . So many as are in…

    agree to house concurrent resolution one zero eight . So many as are in favor say aye . Those opposed no in the opinion of the chair two thirds of those present having voted in the affirmative . The rules are suspended the concurrent resolution is agreed to for what purposes the gentleman from Michigan I would object to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present to make the point of order the requirements not gentleman from Michigan objects to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present pursuant to Clause eight of rule twenty in the chairs prior announcement.

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    MR. SMITH

    present pursuant to Clause eight of rule twenty in the chairs prior…

    present pursuant to Clause eight of rule twenty in the chairs prior announcement.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Further proceedings on this motion will be postponed. The point of no…

    Further proceedings on this motion will be postponed. The point of no Corum is withdrawn . For what purpose is the gentleman from Ohio rise . Which speaker IMO business spend the rules and pass house concurrent resolution seventy four. The clerk will report the title of the concurrent resolution . House concurrent resolution seventy four concurrent resolution authorizing the use of the Capitol grounds for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    grounds for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers.

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    THE CLERK

    grounds for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers. Memorial service…

    grounds for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers. Memorial service . Pursuant to the rule the gentleman from Ohio Mr La Tourette. And the gentleman from Oklahoma Mr Carson each will control.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Twenty minutes . Chair recognizes the gentleman from Ohio . I thank you Mr…

    Twenty minutes . Chair recognizes the gentleman from Ohio . I thank you Mr Speaker and healed myself such time as I might consume. Gentleman is recognized. House concurrent resolution seventy four authorizes the use of the Capitol grounds for the twentieth Annual Peace Officers Memorial Service on May the fifteenth two thousand and one.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    Officers Memorial Service on May the fifteenth two thousand and one.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    fifteenth two thousand and one.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    and one. Or on such a date as the speaker of the House of Representatives…

    and one. Or on such a date as the speaker of the House of Representatives in the Senate Committee on Rules that ministration. Jointly designate. The resolution authorizes the architect of the capitol of the Capitol Police Board in the national or. Fraternal Order of Police . The sponsor of the event. To negotiate the necessary arrangements for carrying out the event and complete compliance with the rules and regulations governing the use of the Capitol grounds . The Capitol Hill police will be the hosting. Law enforcement agency. The event will be free of charge and open to the public. This service will honor the many federal state and local law enforcement officers killed in the light of duty in the year two thousand. This is a fitting tribute to the men and women who have given their lives in the performance of their duties. And I support the measure of my colleagues to do the same . And reserve the balance of my time. Gentleman from Ohio reserves the balance of his time the gentleman from Oklahoma is recognized.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Thank you Mr Speaker I yield myself such time as I may consume . Mr…

    Thank you Mr Speaker I yield myself such time as I may consume . Mr Speaker House conference resolution seventy four authorized use of the Capitol grounds for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers on moral service. A

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    MR. CARSON

    for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers on moral service. A most…

    for the twentieth Annual National Peace Officers on moral service. A most solemn and respectful service . I strongly support this resolution . That honors our fallen police officers. Brave men and women who gave their lives in the daily work. Of protecting our families and. Us at. Home. And in our workplaces. On average one officer is killed in this country. Every other day . Approximately twenty three thousand are injured . Every year and thousands are assaulted. Going about their daily routines . During last year . One hundred fifty very devoted. Brave officers from the ranks of state local and federal service. Were killed in the line of duty. One hundred forty four men and six women were killed . The average age of those killed in the line of duty . Was thirty nine years . And they had an average of ten years. And service . In my home state of Oklahoma. Four brave police officers died in the line of duty in two thousand. At this time . I would like to read their names. Into the record . Deputy Charles Floyd Trivett of Hughes County's Sheriff's Department. Died on February fifth twenty first two thousand. Correctional Officer Joe Allen Gamble. Of the Oklahoma Department of Corrections . At the granite reformatory. Died on June sixth two thousand . And trooper Matthew Scott Evans. Of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol . And Officer Jeffrey Dean Rominger. Also the Oklahoma Highway Patrol . Died on August thirty first two thousand . Mr Speaker . The service to be held on May fifteenth . Is the twentieth anniversary of this memorial service. It represents a national opportunity. Don of the contributions and sacrifices . Of all police officers . I support the resolution . And there is my colleagues to join me in supporting this great tribute to our fallen peace officers. Thank you Mr Speaker. I reserve the balance of my time. Gentleman from Oklahoma reserves a balance of this time the gentleman from Ohio. As Speaker we have no additional speakers with the exception of closing .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . Gentlemen from allow has the right to close the gentleman from Oklahoma…

    . Gentlemen from allow has the right to close the gentleman from Oklahoma as a speaker we have no additional speakers . I yield back the balance

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    as a speaker we have no additional speakers . I yield back the balance

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    of my time. Gentleman yield back the balance of his time to.

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    MR. CARSON

    It's Speaker I yield myself the balance of our time and. Just to make the

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    following. Observation a speaker in conjunction with this event that…

    following. Observation a speaker in conjunction with this event that occurs on the Capitol grounds the police agencies from all over the country will also gather and .

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    police agencies from all over the country will also gather and . Have a…

    police agencies from all over the country will also gather and . Have a parade. Beginning down on . New Jersey going to the police memorial which is right. Directly across from the National Building Museum. And I would say to you Mr Speaker and members that . If you haven't been to that parade. You should go. It is a sight to see. Bagpipers from all across the country . As you know Mr Speaker the United States Congress had authorized the mentoring of a coin . Which was sold nationwide in the proceeds of that coin were used to keep up the National place Memorial Day in Washington D.C. . And there is nothing . Mr Speaker that ever will compare with the strains of Amazing Grace from so many bagpipes in honor of the men and women who have perished creating the thin blue line . And before a feeling back the balance of my time that our friend from Virginia would like some time I'd be happy to yield to Mr Moran would you like some time to speak I'd be happy deal just in time. Well . Thank you very much. Mr La Tourette. I was just going to speak on the National Science Foundation doll when I'm finding that I just missed it.

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    MR. MORAN

    If you just say something nice about the police I'll give you two minutes.…

    If you just say something nice about the police I'll give you two minutes. Well . Well I don't know if the police are benefited by. Many

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    are benefited by. Many of the technological innovations that the National…

    are benefited by. Many of the technological innovations that the National Science Foundation has come up with .

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    MR. MORAN

    National Science Foundation has come up with . This is you know this is a…

    National Science Foundation has come up with . This is you know this is a five part it's a nice one I doubt but it's a. Thank you very much so to speak I rise in strong support of they recognize the fiftieth anniversary of the National Science Foundation . It is not only a national treasure but an example of federal dollars that rate for long term dividends for our country and our economy. I would hope that we can reflect not just our support of the. Resolution but. In the funding for the National Science Foundation over the next ten years in our budget resolution at a time when our country's future economic growth and prosperity. Depend on innovation and scientific advances we should be investing more of the surplus. And scientific research and development tax cuts. Will not provide the same level of long term stimulus to our economy that federal investments in R. and D. will yield in the fields of engineering mathematics and the sciences . Our children's future will be shaped even more by technological innovation . Than what we have seen in our lifetime the N.S.F. is leading the way. And encouraging young people to pursue academic studies and careers . And these technical fields and I want to commend the N.S.F. for its efforts to encourage women and minorities. To pursue careers in math and science. Every member of Congress should take the opportunity to promote the National Science Foundation . Programs in their schools in their districts. Federal investments in technology and basic research programs. Have been the engine of growth for America's economy . The development the Internet was achieved through. Federal investments. And the Defense Department research program called DARPA net . I'm sure the members are aware of that . And privileged to represent. One of the most vibrant economies the in country and it's also home for the National Science Foundation . A By investing in R. and D. in these programs today we're investing in the future point economic potential of our country. And unless we increase the flat budgets which basic research as experienced in the past several years. We can expect to yield the kind of scientific advances to ensure the United States remains at the forefront of the global economy. So I certainly support of that resolution. And ice and I support the current resolution . And I are very much appreciate the generosity and Lanie and say I will submit the rest of my statement for the record Thank you Mr Speaker . The Speaker I thank the gentleman for a support would yield back the balance of our time . Gentlemen from Ohio yields back the balance of his time all time having been yielded back the question is will the house suspend rules the and agree. To

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    back the question is will the house suspend rules the and agree. To house…

    back the question is will the house suspend rules the and agree. To house concurrent resolution seventy four so many as are in favor say those. Suppose no

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    seventy four so many as are in favor say those. Suppose no . In the…

    seventy four so many as are in favor say those. Suppose no . In the opinion of the chair two thirds of those present having voted in the affirmative the rules are suspended the concurrent resolution is agreed to and without objection a motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. Mr Speaker . The gentleman from Ohio . Mr Speaker I ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks. And

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    remarks. And

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    include extraneous material in age kind of as seventy four. The

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    seventy four. The measure just considered by the house. Without objection.…

    seventy four. The measure just considered by the house. Without objection. Thank you for such a clause twelve overall one the chair declares the house to be in recess until approximately five P.M. today

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    recess until approximately five P.M. today

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    P.M. today

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . The house is recess to give members more time to return from their home…

    . The house is recess to give members more time to return from their home districts after the weekend .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    US. Forty two K.. The chair announce the speaker's appointment. Of the…

    US. Forty two K.. The chair announce the speaker's appointment. Of the following member. On the part of the house to the national committee on vital and health statistics for a term of four years. Mr Jeffrey. BLAIR Albuquerque New Mexico . For what purposes a gentleman from Florida rise .

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    THE CLERK

    from Florida rise . Figure I sit on the desk to approach reports from the…

    from Florida rise . Figure I sit on the desk to approach reports from the Committee on Rules for filing under the. rule

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    under the. rule The clerk or reports of titles . Report to accompany

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    MR. GOSS

    . Report to accompany House Resolution one thirty four. A resolution…

    . Report to accompany House Resolution one thirty four. A resolution providing for recommit all of the conference report to accompany the concurrent resolution . House.

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    THE CLERK

    . House. Concurrent Resolution eighty three. Establishing the…

    . House. Concurrent Resolution eighty three. Establishing the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and two revising the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one. And setting forth. Appropriate budgetary levels for each. Of fiscal years. Two thousand and three. Through two thousand and eleven report to accompany House Resolution one thirty five. Resolution providing for consideration of the bill H.R. five eighty one. To authorize the secretary of the Interior and the secretary of agriculture . To use funds appropriated for wild land fire management . In the department of the interior and related agencies Appropriations Act two thousand and one. To reimburse the United States Fish and Wildlife Service . And the National Marine Fisheries Service . To facilitate the interagency cooperation required under the Endangered Species Act of one thousand . And connection with wild land fire management . Referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. The gentleman from Florida . Thank you Mr Speaker by direction of the Committee on Rules I call POS resolution one three one and I asked for its immediate consideration. The clerk

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    call POS resolution one three one and I asked for its immediate…

    call POS resolution one three one and I asked for its immediate consideration. The clerk

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    MR. GOSS

    will report the resolution. House calendar number twenty House Resolution…

    will report the resolution. House calendar number twenty House Resolution one thirty one .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Resolved That the requirement of Clause six A of Rule thirteen for two…

    Resolved That the requirement of Clause six A of Rule thirteen for two thirds vote to consider reports from the committee . On the

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    THE CLERK

    for two thirds vote to consider reports from the committee . On the same…

    for two thirds vote to consider reports from the committee . On the same day they are presented to the house. Is waived. With respect to resolutions reported on the legislative date of May eighth two thousand and one . Providing for consideration . Or just position. Of any conference report to accompany the concurrent resolution . House concurrent resolution eighty three . Establishing the congressional budget for the United States government . For fiscal year two thousand and two . Revising the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And setting forth. Appropriate budgetary levels for each. Of fiscal years two thousand and three through two thousand and eleven . The gentleman from Florida is recognized for one. Thank you Mr Speaker for the purposes of. Debate on

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    and I yield the customary sorry minutes. Distinguished gentleman from New…

    and I yield the customary sorry minutes. Distinguished gentleman from New York my friend the slaughter pending which I myself such time as I may consume.

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    MR. GOSS

    slaughter pending which I myself such time as I may consume. During…

    slaughter pending which I myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this amendment. All time . Is shielded for the purpose of debate only. On this matter. Misspeak as one thirty one wage plus six a full thirteen years we've heard require a two thirds vote. To consider on the same day it is reported from the Rules Committee. The rule applies the waiver to a special report on the legislative day of May eighth two thousand and one. Providing for consideration. Or just position of a conference report dot com the concurrent resolution H. Congress eighty three . Established in the congressional budget for the United States government. For fiscal year two thousand and two Irish are the balance of my time. German reserves the balance of his time generated from New York . Thank you gentleman from the customary thirty minutes . And

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    gentleman from the customary thirty minutes . And

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    as much time as I may consume . And ask unanimous consent to revise and…

    as much time as I may consume . And ask unanimous consent to revise and extend . Mr Speaker. Strong opposition to the rule I am at a loss to explain why we are once again preparing to circumvent the rules of this body . And

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    once again preparing to circumvent the rules of this body . And

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    to circumvent the rules of this body . And cram a controversial budget…

    to circumvent the rules of this body . And cram a controversial budget conference down the throats of our colleagues. What version does the leadership have to regular order. Last week's paper . Was a primary. Haste makes waste. In their haste to cover . For the people's business . Today more of the same. Heavy handed process. For this leadership. Is Under the rules of the house the two thirds vote is required to consider a rule. On a same day the Rules Committee reports it. But the rule to be considered on the same day . With rather than with two thirds of . This rule we are considering with a requirement to reaction . Consider several procedural votes. In an elaborate game to recommit to last week's. Conference report . And bring up a revised version. For consideration . Given what the forthcoming conference bill. We shouldn't be surprised I suspect that the measures are more likely and. I would put on the conference report . To participate in writing this agreement . Democrats given any information regarding the document. That will be the. Guideline for this night . The word in the Caucus Room is it the chairman refused to return the ranking member . This is a far cry from changing the tone in Washington . That the current leadership prides itself on our urge my colleagues to defeat this rule and reserve the balance of my time. Florida . Thank you Mr Speaker we speak I would just respond to say that we are is to get us timely to the debate on the budget.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    get us timely to the debate on the budget.

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    MR. GOSS

    get us timely to the debate on the budget. Which we hope to have tomorrow.…

    get us timely to the debate on the budget. Which we hope to have tomorrow. The way we have to do that because of the rules . Covering the conference reports. Preserving the progress of both chambers of the house . Require it that way . Rick I'm at a conference report. So we have created a way to do that to save ning it seems appropriate to do and then we will proceed tomorrow to debate on the budget. And I think that the argument now that the minority has not had a chance to say that they are the budget is . It is a little bit strange considering we've just had four days . And ample time to review. Had ample time to consider that document. At this time I would feel such time as you may consume to the distinguished gentleman from Florida my colleague. A new member who are pleased to hear out here. Mr Gallup such time as you may consider. The gentleman is recognized for such time as you may consume. I thank the gentleman for yielding. Mr Speaker I rise today in strong support of this budget . As

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . As someone who grew up in relatively humble circumstances. And

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    MR. KELLER

    a one bedroom little home in Orlando Florida . I learned some of Borton…

    a one bedroom little home in Orlando Florida . I learned some of Borton things about life. At a young age. First. I learned that single mothers and working families desperately need tax relief. This budget provides that tax relief. To the tune of one point three five trillion dollars. Second I learned that a first class education. Is a child's passport out of poverty. This budget represents the largest investment in education in the history of the United States including a one billion dollar increase in Pell Grants and five billion dollars for reading and grades kindergarten through third grade. I also learned that senior citizens depend on their Social Security checks. And prescription drugs. To lift this budget because it's all security surpluses in a lockbox . And spends up to three hundred billion dollars for prescription drugs for seniors. I urge my colleagues to vote yes on the budget. This is what we came here for. I yield back the balance of my talk back to General a gentleman from New York. Mr Speaker I yield three jets e-mails to gentleman from Illinois . Mr gentleman is recognized for three minutes . Mr Chairman

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . Mr Chairman

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    leadership has not kept its promises to us that are plotting themselves on…

    leadership has not kept its promises to us that are plotting themselves on the phone to new curses and veterans programs.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    that are plotting themselves on the phone to new curses and veterans…

    that are plotting themselves on the phone to new curses and veterans programs.

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    MR. EVANS

    that are plotting themselves on the phone to new curses and veterans…

    that are plotting themselves on the phone to new curses and veterans programs. My Republican colleagues realize that. Realistically the numbers just didn't add up. They will tell you that. They'll fix the harm done to these programs with emergency spending. But if that's the case. Untiringly. Been able to reconcile their promises to veterans in the giant tax cuts that their friends to America's wealthiest taxpayers. The joint resolution will eliminate the need for veterans for a House and Senate resolutions for fiscal year two thousand and two. The house added seven hundred thirty million dollars to the president's budget . For veterans programs by the Senate several resolutions . That would have about one point seven billion dollars to the Bush requests . About a one billion dollar increase for veterans for . Back to Bush . And that's for veterans groups agree that the Bush budget is adequate . In a press release this February . American Legion. The Bush administration's fiscal year two thousand and two budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs . Is not good enough. Frankly this is a budget that is insufficient to fulfill the campaign promises. George W. Bush made . When clothes and letter to the Senate for in the letter to the Senate from four major . Of America. Of Foreign Wars . Committed by the Bush administration . And the effects of inflation . The American people understand that. Some of the gentleman. The gentleman from Florida continues to reserve.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    This conference report which is going on for one and one half minutes…

    This conference report which is going on for one and one half minutes someone who loves the house.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    minutes someone who loves the house.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    someone who loves the house.

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    MS. DELAURO

    Enjoy themselves. The president should put the budget that the president…

    Enjoy themselves. The president should put the budget that the president of the Republican leadership are pushing through with this house . Cuts important. Being. The provides forty three percent of Americans who gets caught. Graduate Medical Education . Kids get million dollars . New funding for reading and mathematics education programs . For that program for the next ten years . Thirteen. They go home alone every single day. Yet the president . Twenty first century learning center program. That's after school programs . And educational opportunities for our kids. The president's watch is one point four million dollars from the University of New born hearing screening program an eighteen percent cut. Photo ops are one thing . But you have to put your money where your value our values are. That's what budgets about. They are about values. It's not about programs. And there are some fundamental American values that stake in this debate. Values that everyone should have a chance to succeed. Every job should have the best education agenda . Thirty minutes and thirty seconds. Every child to have the best education . The belt

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    the best education . The belt best health care in every single.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Should have a decent secure retirement.

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    MS. DELAURO

    Those values . For the president's rhetoric. Are not in the president's…

    Those values . For the president's rhetoric. Are not in the president's budget . This is reflective of the priorities. And the values of this administration. They're not focused on American families. Or American children like your back the balance of my time back . From New York. The gentleman from South Carolina . The ranking member on the Budget Committee Mr Spratt . The gentleman is recognized

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . The gentleman is recognized for three. That's like a journal before…

    . The gentleman is recognized for three. That's like a journal before you're going to ask unanimous consent to revise and extend . Without

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    going to ask unanimous consent to revise and extend . Without

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    object which is the budget that the Republicans brought to the House late…

    object which is the budget that the Republicans brought to the House late last Thursday has more than just two pages missing.

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    MR. SPRATT

    House late last Thursday has more than just two pages missing.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    pages missing. It's a budget full of what's really missing a real…

    pages missing. It's a budget full of what's really missing a real membership.

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    MR. SPRATT

    what's really missing a real membership. Take defense a larger. Account in…

    what's really missing a real membership. Take defense a larger. Account in the discretionary budget. This budget. Allocates three hundred twenty five billion dollars to defense basically what Clinton and Cohen would have spent. But three hundred twenty five billion dollars. Is not a real number. It's a placeholder pending Mr Rumsfeld's review of what's needed to transform our military and reports indicate. When the time is right . After the tax cuts are in acted and strong. Requests at least twenty five billion dollars a year . More than this budget provide. Take next the rest of all appropriated spending spending to an increase of three point eight percent next year and years thereafter . Two point six percent below inflation . This is tie. Really tight a lot stricter than any limit to which spending has been held in recent years . Of spending is capped at these levels on a few favorite programs such as transportation get outside proportioning. Creases. That many of us will have to be cut. Rather than indicate these. Popular and somewhat likely . Cuts now . The Republican budget simply increases discretionary spending by the right to inflation and. Every function across the board. Except defense which gets more. Then they bury in the last . Function of the budget . Six billion dollars of unspecified cuts in two thousand and two and a total of sixty seven billion dollars in cuts over the next ten years. If you want to see what happened . What results from . Indiscriminate budgeting. Look at education . Remember how the presence. STATE OF THE UNION that. Education will get the largest increase in his budget. That turned out to be a modest increase of twenty one point four billion dollars above inflation . Over the next ten years . When the budget was open to amendment on the Senate floor . Senators voted three times to depict tax cuts and credit education . To the tune of two hundred ninety four billion. Additional dollars for education. It was a great victory. But short lived. Once Republicans got the budget in a close conference they not only to alleviate all the ads made in the Senate . But also cut the president's request . Of twenty one point three billion dollars. This budget. Now treats education like every other function. Inflation only for ten years . Nothing more. Consider finally the initiative to add prescription drug coverage to Medicare . The budget. The president asked for one hundred fifty three billion dollars over ten years to pay for drug benefits. In Congress that would keep Republicans in both houses . Who call this amount. Inadequate. Senate Democrats move to raise the provision for drugs and provide. And their conference . In that conference then the Republican leadership did not pare down this increase . And. Thank you very much in conference this wasn't pared back but the next worst thing was done to it instead of setting aside some of the surplus . General fund

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    thing was done to it instead of setting aside some of the surplus .…

    thing was done to it instead of setting aside some of the surplus . General fund

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    MR. SPRATT

    . General fund surplus to pay for there's an added benefit. They allow the…

    . General fund surplus to pay for there's an added benefit. They allow the three hundred billion dollars for drug benefits to be drawn from the Medicare trust. Phone in the long run this trust fund the Medicare trust fund face is a sure serious shortfall as we all know. And it's the cost of prescription drugs is drawn from the trust fund. It will only hasten the day of insolvency . Is tax cuts to drive this budget and tax reduction is the most understated number of all . The budget calls for tax cuts of one point three hundred fifty billion dollars. One hundred fifty billion dollars three hundred billion less than the president first requested a Republican from a lot to have said this is just round one for tax reduction . And I credit him for the honesty because more tax is surely coming. This is not the final number for for tax reduction. When you add all these numbers. All these plugs all of these places . Add up to likely action. That will be layered on top of it. The bottom line in this budget goes negative as early as next year . Within the next ten years will be three hundred forty two billion dollars into the Medicare trust fund. Two hundred fifty five billion dollars into the Social Security trust fund. Maybe that's why the conference was kept secret . And a budget was not shown to us until midnight last Thursday. The gentleman's expired . From New York. SPEAKER I feel compelled to say again that news just. No role whatever .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . And we will get his phone calls returned . And I regret that

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    . And I regret that I now you want to the general aviation Melanotan…

    . And I regret that I now you want to the general aviation Melanotan mission cast . From Illinois recognize for one minute to come out with .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    to come out with . Don't look for a decent drug benefit.

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    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    Prescription Drug Benefit here. President Bush you may remember when he…

    Prescription Drug Benefit here. President Bush you may remember when he was a candidate promised a prescription drug benefit under Medicare instead. This budget has a measly proposal. Available only to seniors . That make under eleven thousand five hundred dollars a year. This isn't going to help people like the right now is in my district he's seventy five and she's seventy one. But they make too much money . Under the Republican plan. This is a RIGHT NOW wrote to me last February saying. We're going broke . Paying for prescription drugs. He's paying three hundred twenty four dollars a month . Mrs Ryan our has a drug bill that will knock your eyes out and she pays the full price. This is a budget that does more for the one million millionaires in this country. For a million millionaires than it does . For thirty nine million Medicare beneficiaries. That are waiting for a real prescription drug benefit. That's priorities for you. This is not what President Bush promised when he was a candidate. And it's not and it's what's. Senior citizens deserve to see in this budget. Expired. From New York. Mr Speaker I have to manage the gentleman from Washington Mr Bayle gentleman from Washington is recognized for two minutes .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    gentleman from Washington is recognized for two minutes .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    I think generally . Mr Speaker I rise in opposition to this rule . Last…

    I think generally . Mr Speaker I rise in opposition to this rule . Last week the house was kept in session until three am waiting to vote on a budget that our side had not even seen and had no part in creating . That's

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    side had not even seen and had no part in creating . That's

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    MR. BAIRD

    side had not even seen and had no part in creating . That's bipartisanship…

    side had not even seen and had no part in creating . That's bipartisanship according to the Republican model. Then we couldn't consider the bill until this week because of two missing pages . Since then those two pages have apparently been found but there are three more important elements missing. Those are. Honesty . Common sense. And fairness . The resolution we're considering tonight is missing honesty. It doesn't include resources necessary to offer seniors a universal voluntary prescription drug benefit under Medicare . In fact the budget resolution shortens the solvency of the Medicare program. George Bush and his allies in the majority party promise to include prescription drug benefits under Medicare . Over and over in ad after ad. Yet this budget falls woefully and embarrassingly short. This budget is missing common sense. The budget proposes large increases in defense spending but the budget they put forward doesn't pay for them . In some instances like. Paying our soldiers a decent wage I fully support . Defense increases . But it was. When it comes to one hundred billion dollar missile defense systems . That is not common sense. It's uncommon foolishness. Finally the resolution is missing fairness . I've written the tax deduction Fairness Act of two thousand and one which would allow tax payers in states like ours. The option to deduct. Either their state income taxes or their state sales taxes. This would restore fairness to the tax code for residents in my state. And in the states of Tennessee Texas . Nevada. Wyoming Florida and South Dakota. Such proposals as this were not included in this budget. This budget demands that our states. Subsidize the rest of the tax cuts for the rest of the country. This body deserves better. We deserve true bipartisanship . True discussion. True common sense . And the seniors and children of this country deserve true health care reform. This budget does not provide it. We deserve better . I yield back the balance . Tom the gentleman has expired gentleman from New York. Mr Speaker on your three minutes to the gentle lady from North Carolina Mrs Crane .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . From North Carolina struck not for three minutes . I thank you Mr Speaker

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    . And I thank you generally the floor yelling at the onset I would like to…

    . And I thank you generally the floor yelling at the onset I would like to emphatically state my opposition to this rule. Because this process is shameful and insulting.

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    MS. CLAYTON

    is shameful and insulting. Mr Chairman this process is shameful insulting…

    is shameful and insulting. Mr Chairman this process is shameful insulting because it did not as an opportunity to act responsible. By informing the American people that the numbers in this budget. Do not add up and less. So Security and Medicare trust fund. Are reduced drastically . I regret that the budget process has come to the States . We started off with such a promise in the House committee . Having a fair and open debate. On priorities in the budget . Democrats expected to lose many of the votes and discussions . Because we are end of an Arctic. But we were at least given an opportunity for an open and fair debate . President Bush has insisted that he wanted to set a new tone. Of respect and by. Pause and ship. What really happened to this fair and open bipartisanship . With regard to negotiation. On the budget. Last Wednesday. I read an article in The Washington Times. That the White House and the so-called congressional budget negotiators. Agreed on eight eleven. One point three five trillion tax cut plan . The question in my mind was Who are these negotiators. The Democrats on the Budget Committee where it's completely shut out of the process. There was no input allowed by the House Democrat leadership of the House Democrats. On these budget cuts are types to John Smith this kind of behavior is unworthy of the honorable members of Congress. And it's very dangerous politics. That affects the core of democracy. And fair play in our nation. This is regrettable . Because we are bouncing the budget on the backs of our seniors. These numbers will not add up on less we reduce Security and Medicare trust fund. Yet the president is promising . The Americans that they can have their cake and eat it too. He has promised to natural national defense system. I'm sorry. He's promising a national missile defense system. Far reaching education reform prescription drug program . And the list goes on to include an additional tax cut that would mostly benefit the big business and the wealthy. I want the American citizens to know that they are being over promise and deceived in this budget process . As a result we cannot live up to providing improved education prescription drugs for seniors . Secure in Social Security and Medicare. While paying down the debt. And giving away . A one point three five trillion tax cut which will probably reason to trillion dollar tax cut. The attitude projected in this process is that we are not listening . And that we will not consider recommend adjustment or changes. This is in spite of the Senate Democrat. Effort to increase and . In this conference report . All of the two hundred and ninety four billion dollars for education of funds were dropped. Certainly this is not a bipartisan process . To pass this budget means we are breaking our commitment to our seniors . And I urge for the speed of the rule . From New York. Mr Speaker you have to manage to the gentleman from North Carolina Mr Prime. Stone from North Carolina is recognized for two minutes .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    recognized for two minutes . Without objection .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    objection . Just because the gap between rhetoric and reality has never…

    objection . Just because the gap between rhetoric and reality has never been wider than in this budget.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    wider than in this budget. And I'm going to concentrate today especially…

    wider than in this budget. And I'm going to concentrate today especially on the education budget because that gap is.

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    MR. PRICE

    the education budget because that gap is. Is truly massive in that area.…

    the education budget because that gap is. Is truly massive in that area. We're being asked to support a budget that provides no. Increase over inflation for education funding and even falls short of what the president asked for in his budget plan. Despite all the talk from the White House despite all the talk from my Republican friends . Education is not a priority . In this budget. We have serious education needs we need to reduce class size. We need to construct. More schools get our kids out of trailers . We need to recruit and train teachers . We need to boost title one aid for disadvantaged school districts. We need to close the achievement gap between majority and minority children. We need to increase Pell Grants for college opportunity . We need to meet the federal government's obligation to add special education funding. We need to expand Head Start. The list of needs as long as this budget comes up short on every count. With this budget President Bush and the Republicans . Break their promise. To increase the maximum Pell grant to fifty one hundred dollars. During the campaign candidate Bush promised to raise the maximum Pell grant award. To fifty one hundred dollars for freshman . Unfortunately President Bush and the Republicans have fallen. At least one point five billion dollars short of that amount needed to fulfill that promise. The president's budget provides only enough funding to raise the maximum award of thirty seven hundred fifty dollars. About one hundred fifty dollars . Which is far less than Pell Grant increases in recent years . And this budget. Does even less than what the president requested. And then let's talk about gear up. Gear up that program . Already under funded . That program to get colleges and private businesses engaged in mentoring . High school students. Closing that achievement gap. Preparing them for college. Gear Up program praised by Secretary of Education Paige when he was in Houston as head of the system there. President. Bush Madam Chairman Mao asked for another minute . You know. Gentlemen another thirty second President Bush wants to cut by twenty percent . Meaning. Two hundred thousand fewer kids being helped. And now this Republican budget provides even less funding. Bipartisan majorities in the Senate adopted amendments to add two hundred ninety four billion. Over ten years for education above the House passed budget. But the final version of this budget eliminates those increases. In fact education receives less in this budget than the House passed budget. About almost a billion next year and twenty one point four billion over ten years . But I don't want to just throw money at education and hope for improvements but without new resources. Crumbling classrooms can't be repaired new schools can't be built teachers can't be hired and Pell Grants can't be increased. We must do better. We need more than top . Reject this budget expired. From New York Mr Speaker I yield to the gentleman from North Dakota Mr Connor our children from North Dakota is recognized for two minutes . As a

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Connor our children from North Dakota is recognized for two minutes . As a

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    gentle lady for. Yielding. We are debating this motion before us to try…

    gentle lady for. Yielding. We are debating this motion before us to try and fix the budget.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    try and fix the budget. Filings. Of the majority from the other night.

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    MR. POMEROY

    from the other night. You know . It's one thing for the majority of be…

    from the other night. You know . It's one thing for the majority of be unfair. It's another thing for the majority to be in that. But for the majority to be balls . On the same piece of legislative business it's a bit much. But I don't linger on till after midnight . The attempted consideration of the budget. They utterly deprive. Almost half of this body of the chance of. Even seeing the numbers they're proposing. Literally until they all are of the vote. But as we know that . Copying machine that withheld two critical pages . Stopped them dead in their tracks you know it. Got to shakes your confidence my goodness if if they can't call a two you don't know whether they can calculate . And now that we've actually had a chance to survey the numbers. We can see indeed there are some very serious problems in calculation . Substance problems that go far beyond the embarrassing procedural followup. They brought upon themselves . And let's talk specifically about one area. Education. This is an area where our new president has called for more . Improving quality of our schools a fact he committed nine hundred million over the next year. Twenty one point four billion over the ten years of the budget. We pass the president's recommendation. When the budget was considered in the house over to the Senate where they said that's a good start but we need to do more and with a bipartisan vote. They voted to add two hundred ninety four billion dollars in additional resources into the budget package. What happened when we finally got to the numbers of their package numbers they hoped it wouldn't get to look at and debate. Fully before this vote we're about to take all of that money for our schools. All of that money for better education for our children . Was spread out. Even . President Bush's recommended funding. Gone. Ultimately all that was left was an inflationary adjustment . That amounts to twelve dollars and ninety cents per kid per year . We're not going to improve schools on that . We need to adhere to the president's recommended levels and beyond. More money for schools reject this budget on a gentleman's expired. From New York Knicks speak to balance the time that gentleman from Massachusetts Mr Cathy one gentleman from Massachusetts is recognized for.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    one gentleman from Massachusetts is recognized for.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    recognized for. Eight and one half minutes they can take down.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    The student. SPEAKER I guess . I'm not

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    MR. CAPUANO

    . I guess I rise today in opposition to the rule but the truth is this…

    . I guess I rise today in opposition to the rule but the truth is this room means nothing . This budget. Means nothing because there are no numbers here that anyone can tell you and most people in my district over the weekend were asked me what we're going to do this week what's going to happen with the budget how much money is going into education how much money is going to health care. And the truth is not a single member of this house or the Senate can answer those questions based on this budget. They don't know. They have no idea how much money is going into education . I can tell you one thing the Medicare system no matter what number they use this budget will bring the Medicare system to insolvency. Much more quickly than before . Community Health Centers will be cut. I don't know how much but they will be . Housing will be cut in virtually every single program . From seven hundred million dollars cut. Of public housing capital improvement. To a twenty five million dollars cut in row housing programs. Will be cut. We think we know a number on that one but we're not sure . The National Institute of Health . Will be cut. We're not sure how much . But we think it will be cut. Ryan Ryan White. AIDS grants. Will definitely be cut. Drug elimination grants. Will be cut . The COPS program will be cut. We're not sure how much . But it will be cut. Retraining programs. For all those people who are now unemployed every day. We turn on the T.V. or read the paper. We read about more Americans getting unemployed. But this budget has no money. To deal with that. We're not sure how much the department is going to go out. We have no idea. That's why at the end of this budget. You'll see what is a huge. Slush fund. There's no other way to put it it is the first time in my adult life . I have ever seen a negative. Slush fund . It is negative sixty seven billion dollars. Because the numbers don't add up. And what that says is . When we get around to it. We'll cut something. We don't know what. Will cut something . To make this work. One . To tell me . Except a budget. That doesn't work that . Budget. And you the balance of my time back to the New York . Back to the gentle lady. From New York. From New York let me mention Rhode Island Mr Langham the gentleman from Rhode Island . Is

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    mention Rhode Island Mr Langham the gentleman from Rhode Island . Is

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    . Is recognized for two minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker . I rise today . In…

    . Is recognized for two minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker . I rise today . In strong opposition to budget conference agreement that jeopardizes fiscal discipline . And

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    conference agreement that jeopardizes fiscal discipline . And

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    MR. LANGEVIN

    . And critical social programs to make room for an enormous tax cut.…

    . And critical social programs to make room for an enormous tax cut. Skewed toward the wealthy. And based on projections. That may never materialize. Despite a modest reduction in the tax cut originally proposed by the administration. It's still far too large to pay for it. The agreement usurps funds that should go to other critical priorities. Like reducing our debt. Creating a stable defense. Improving education. Providing affordable health care . And strengthening . Security and Medicare . And yes. A real prescription drug benefit for our seniors. Particular light of the fact that just today is report that spending on prescription drugs . Has increased by almost nineteen percent. Furthermore this. Fundamentally flawed agreement . Would cut federal programs that are vital to our nation's small businesses. Workers health. Environmental protection. And energy efficiency and housing needs . This budget also changes. Our bass players but . Decreases funding for critical law enforcement programs. And cuts budget authority. The benefits . Have earned . We would like to reward hard working Americans by returning some of their tax dollars . But we also need to ensure that our most pressing needs are met. These are real concerns that want a real budget. Based on real numbers. Not partisan rhetoric that. Falsely touts cooperation . And accord . Bipartisan negotiations and Bob a lot more than just inviting a couple of clubs over to the White House for lunch. I urge my colleagues . Jack King is a Republican and supporting a sensible. Well balanced budget resident. Every American family . Thank you Mr Speaker I yield the balance of my time. The gentleman's expired. Gentle lady from New York. And they're here for me to speak and .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . Your to man the gentleman from Mr Canby judgment for not for two minutes.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    Mr Canby judgment for not for two minutes.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    two minutes.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    Thank you. I know it occurs to me that maybe the Senate copier was on to…

    Thank you. I know it occurs to me that maybe the Senate copier was on to something when it. split

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    something when it. split These these two pages . This conference report

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    MR. KENNEDY

    . This conference report makes me want to gag. When I think about what…

    . This conference report makes me want to gag. When I think about what happened. The yacht's use cation and deception that's been the hallmark of this budget process is truly worthy of a conference report. Majority and. Voting on a budget resolution before seeing the president's budget . That was the first thing then the majority shut out. The Democrats from any consideration on this conference report . And then tried to sneak a vote. Past the American people before they even had a chance to see their cynical handiwork. I don't blame the Republican leadership for trying to hide the details of this budget from the people. Nobody would be proud of this budget . That pays for tax cuts. With the futures of our children. Look at all the child hostile measures in this budget . It cuts head start. It makes childcare harder for and more. Less affordable for working families. It cuts . Individuals with Disabilities Education Act Part C. which helps prepare disabled infants and toddlers for school. It cuts. Twenty first century Community Learning Centers Program. Which keeps kids safe. And productive after school. It cuts the Mental Health Services Block Grant. Which is what everyone tells me is what works in our states when providing that. Crucial community support for our most vulnerable children. It cuts all of these things. And yet. We say that we have a president that wants to put his emphasis on education . It certainly isn't relevant in this budget. We need to see the dollars. Or else that will be a hollow promise. Of his being an education president. Deception seems to be. The name of the game . Because the majority's irresponsibility. For what is going on with this . Tax cut plan. Is is what is what is making this such a vulnerable budget to begin with because it will be unable for us to meet our obligations long term for this nation. While being able to to cut the taxes for the wealthy in this country. That's why I think that we should make sure these two pages . Are included and we ought to know what the full impact of this budget is. And I yield back the balance of my time expired . Gentle lady from New York. Mr Speaker I have two minutes to the gentleman from Maryland.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Gentleman from Maryland is recognized for two minutes .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    recognized for two minutes . Let me thank my calling.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Slaughter for yielding me this time Mr Speaker . I regret that we have to…

    Slaughter for yielding me this time Mr Speaker . I regret that we have to resort to these types of extraordinary roles.

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    MR. CARDIN

    have to resort to these types of extraordinary roles. We could have…

    have to resort to these types of extraordinary roles. We could have bipartisan agreement on a budget. It would have been difficult for the majority to reach out to the Democrats. To come out with a budget that we all could support. That would provide for tax relief. As well as protecting Social Security Medicare. And the priority programs . And most importantly reducing our national debt. Mr Speaker the reason why I will not support it. Is that I believe . It provides for tax cuts that will be too large and allowing us to protect Social Security and Medicare. Not only this year but in future years and will continue to make the type of investments in education and environment and other priorities that are important for the people I represent . But most tragically Mr Speaker I think this budget. Will do exactly what the National Review. Indicates it will do. And that says . Don't fear our deficit . Don't fear a deficit. I think that there are many who understand that this budget if. Implemented. Will lead to deficit spending again. In an effort to downsize government. We don't want to see deficits again. And yet I believe this budget will lead in that direction. So Mr Speaker I regret that we haven't used the time till now . To work together to bring Democrats and Republicans together on a budget that will allow for reasonable tax relief. And allow us to pay down our national debt. Rather than adding. Potential reading to it. I urge my colleagues . To reject this budget . To work together. For the American people and I yield back the balance of my two. Jimmy Wales back the balance of his time. All the time of the gentle lady from New York has expired. Chair recognizes the gentleman from Florida.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    gentleman from Florida. Thank you very much . Mr Speaker I . I realize it…

    gentleman from Florida. Thank you very much . Mr Speaker I . I realize it might be a little late to do this but in the interests of accuracy and . and Trying to refocus

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    MR. GOSS

    late to do this but in the interests of accuracy and . and Trying to…

    late to do this but in the interests of accuracy and . and Trying to refocus what we're actually about here. What we're debating is the role that weighs a requirement of plus six A of Rule thirteen with respect to the same day consideration of certain resolutions reported by The Rules Committee. We're not debating the budget here and the vote we are going to take . It is not on the budget. In fact. If you wish to get to the budget debate. I urge you to support. The rule. The majority is trying to bring the budget to the floor. So that the debate we've already heard some good introductory discussion on. In this past half hour. Can come to the full blown debate under the conference rules on the floor of the house. So I am going to ask everybody please to support this rule. So we can in fact. Get on with the budget date. To the budget debate tomorrow. I think that. I heard some concern. That was a little puzzling. A lot of conference. Discussion about this particular budget which. My colleague from New York says is being written by the other body as we speak . If that in fact is the case then why are we debating a document. That is not going to be relevant. So it seems to me that we should have focused our remarks . On the expedition . That the majority is trying. To bring forth . And that is a journey. To the budget debate. As quickly as possible . In the broad daylight . On a beautiful day in Washington tomorrow to borrow Wednesday. The ninth of May . I think that those who are still talking about. Being deprived of the opportunity to see the budget whether it's the budget we're going to see or not need to remember that they've had four days. Over the weekend and indeed it's sounds as if some members have spent some time and not as useful. Those who would say that the majority has. Has not been particularly apt or particularly fair on this process are entitled to their opinion . But I think those who come to Washington to look for perfection. Ought not to be the ones who cast the first stone . I am reminded I am human and I write only about I make errors and. I have machines in my office that jam occasionally they're called copy machines . And if. Members have copy machines that don't jam. I'd like to know what the brand is because most everyone brand I've tried jam and not in fact just what happened. We had a jab copy machine . And in our interest to try and get the debate started. We were not produce enough to catch the fact that there were still two pieces of paper caught in the copy machine. And we didn't catch that. But we just didn't catch it immediately. So we misfiled. I know that. Error takes place . And . I don't want to be the one to cast the first stone but since the stone has been cast. I generally remember in my earlier term. I'm here. I think was back about ninety two. There was an embarrassing moment when the president minority. Was in the majority. When somehow or other we lost track of twenty five billion dollars worth of Russian aid. And the speaker of the house went through a very considerable scramble to get it back. I don't recall us making a federal case out of and I think that we saw a problem . And I believe this problem is a much more minor. problem This all a involves. Perhaps giving the opportunity of members for more days to review. What might in fact be our budget document for a budget debate. So I think that we've come out ahead on this. Whether that was by design or by circumstance. Doesn't matter. We have in fact are going to have a good chance to debate this budget and everybody's going to have a chance to see what's in it. But all of that is not relevant to what's before us. Which is the role . To get on with the same day . Provision allow us to get on to debating the budget. So without further comment on the fact that. I think we've had an interesting preview of what might calm in a budget debate. I would urge that we support this rule . And then. The rules committee well soon bring a nother rule . Which will also get us that much closer to the budget debate. And if you will support that role as well. We will then have two good rules in place to get us to the budget debate tomorrow and we can vote on the budget. Rule tomorrow and then on the conference report. If all goes well . How he said that. I urge support. Yield back the balance of my time. Move the previous question . Back this time without objection the previous question is ordered the question is on adoption of the resolution. Those in favor say aye those opposed in a piece of the chair the ayes have it.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    opposed in a piece of the chair the ayes have it. From New York Mr Speaker…

    opposed in a piece of the chair the ayes have it. From New York Mr Speaker I object to the vote on the grounds of quorum was not present make a point of order and that of course is not a present from New York. It makes

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    present from New York. It makes a point of order that a form is not…

    present from New York. It makes a point of order that a form is not present pursuant to Clause eight of rule twenty. Further proceedings on this resolution are postponed . And pursuant to

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    this resolution are postponed . And pursuant to clause twelve of rule one.…

    this resolution are postponed . And pursuant to clause twelve of rule one. The house stands in recess until approximately six P.M. the House has completed debate on a motion dealing with the fiscal year two thousand and two federal budget resolution. Due to a prior agreement. Members are holding electronic votes at six P.M. Eastern. To give members more time to return from their districts. At that time members will vote on a resolution honoring the National Science Foundation . On

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    THE CLERK

    suppose I know . And pay the chair two thirds of those present having…

    suppose I know . And pay the chair two thirds of those present having voted in the affirmative the rules are suspended the concurrent resolution is agreed to and without objection a motion reconsider is laid upon the table .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    to and without objection a motion reconsider is laid upon the table . The…

    to and without objection a motion reconsider is laid upon the table . The unfinished business is the de novo vote on adoption of House Resolution one thirty one . Which the clerk will report by title. House Resolution one thirty one resolution. Waving a requirement of Clause six A of Rule thirteen. With respect to consideration of certain resolutions reported from the Committee on Rules . The question is on adoption of the resolution.

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    THE CLERK

    All those in favor say aye . Those opposed to I know . Any venue the chair…

    All those in favor say aye . Those opposed to I know . Any venue the chair the ayes have it. For what purpose general idea from New York rise high objectives on the grounds of course not present in make point of order a quorum is not crazy.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    in make point of order a quorum is not crazy. Generally makes a point of…

    in make point of order a quorum is not crazy. Generally makes a point of order there corm is not present a quorum is not present . There you know that the members. With the Asian Naser order Members will record their votes. By

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    electronic device.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    So we're watching this electronic vote which was held until this hour to…

    So we're watching this electronic vote which was held until this hour to allow members to return to Washington from their home districts for the weekend . This vote on

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    to return to Washington from their home districts for the weekend . This…

    to return to Washington from their home districts for the weekend . This vote on a rule dealing with procedures for considering the fiscal year two thousand and two budget resolution. This was debated just a few minutes ago here in the house. If this would pass . It would allow the Rules Committee to bring up another rule. To direct the conference committee to insert a couple of pages of the Budget Report which were left out when it was originally filed last week. Next we're going to learn a little bit more about this budget resolution. And the recent indictment of Ohio Democrat James Traficant as we talk to a Capitol Hill reporter. OK . What happened then . And what will we hear this week. Right the budget is back you never promised that it would. What happened basically was the deal. Sort of fell apart . They were trying to bring the budget resolution which is an outline of. Sort of a non-binding. Outline But but important in the US. Through the House and Senate after emerging from a conference committee and House leaders tried to push it through Thursday night real way . And there were a lot of problems a couple of pages were missing. That was their reasoning but. But they were. It was clear there were broader problems in that too because once . Everybody looked at it it agreed to it in principle. They found things to pick apart . Has been a long weekend of negotiations taking place on the other in the Capitol. In the Senate because there were the fifty fifty Senate . The Republicans and President Bush . Have to get some Democratic votes they've lost to Republicans in the Senate and then they pick up one Democrat Zell Miller but they need some of these. Centrist moderate Democrats not just because they want to make them happy but because they have to happen to pass this thing . And. And that is important because you need to have this budget in place this budget outline in place. Later for the tax bill. If it's not in place. Senate rules would permit filibusters if it isn't poison accommodates a tax cut the Republicans or President Bush. Can push through a tax bill with. Only requiring fifty one vote . Simple majority rather than sixty votes which is just about impossible in this environment for most anything so they get this thing passed. It's sort of too big to fail from from their perspective . They will get something. They will work it out. Just a matter of fine tuning and getting everybody on board and going on . We're going to try again . Going to Rules Committee today and get it through in the House tomorrow . And in the Senate it would fall you mentioned the centrists . What did the administration do to bring them on board what are they going to try to keep them . The main thing that the administration did was compromise on the tax cut. President Bush's tax cut under his figures one point six trillion over ten years . Some independent analysts say it's really a little more than that but nonetheless . The Democrats of the centrists ball. In the Senate. In the house . They have a majority for their back and probably have a majority to go beyond that. In the Senate they don't. And then Bush and the administration tried to get agreement on one point for a smaller compromise. That didn't fly either . A group of senators. A couple of Republicans. Actually three Republicans and some Democrats . Signed on to this one point two five proposal. That was John bros. He was the lead took the lead in that. And there was a bit more of a compromise that. They threw another one hundred billion dollars in for under the heading of immediate stimulus. Economic stimulus . Some tax cuts to get the economy moving right away. What happened though in the negotiations was that one hundred billion with a one point two five. So that you could be one point three five over eleven years. Ten years . Plus the current year that were in . Because that's when the stimulus was to apply it in the rate that was the subject of the bottom line is they come up with some language that. Tries to make everybody happy that distinction but sort of . Doesn't because the House doesn't want that distinction. And then they'll just try to work it all out later and the key thing is if the administration can keep those interest Democrats in the Senate. On board . They can get this thing passed. And then they can go to the next step which is. Bring the tax bill up in the Senate. If they try to make everybody happy Did that make anybody happy . But from their perspective it's just a move the ball down the field. This is. This is have to cross they have to get this budget resolution that plays for the reasons I mentioned. To make the reconciliation process as they call it in the Senate. To make that happen. Without a filibuster. And so in that sense . They have to get it passed. If everybody is not happy well you know the house you have a diverse dynamic with the Republican conservatives who want even more tax cuts. Keep calling this one point three five. What are the figures . You know. We're going to lose that much and we want to do more with more tax bills to do that it just because they don't want to go. Above that and the Democrats in the Senate. All nervous and try harder to nail down because they want that to be the maximum tax cut dynamics are driving this . After all about spending in there but negotiations on the spending. It's about of just about a two trillion dollars . One year . Provision for the next nine years . But there's a lot of a lot of back and forth over. Levels of. Increase over the current year . Let me ask you about another story that you've written about . Just today. In the house. What's happening with him . Well as you. Viewers know is very colorful. Democrat. Normally Democrat from Ohio . Northeastern corner of Ohio Youngstown area. He's known for his wild speech making in these a rather distinctive look . And he makes a lot of . One minute speeches are very outrageous . He was indicted . He didn't say he was going to be indicted predicting his own indictment. Under investigation for corruption in Youngstown. In fact he told voters last year that he was going to be indicted he was reelected anyway . And the indictments came down on Friday of ten count indictment charging. Bribery conspiracy to commit bribery tearing a number of charges and . He'll be arraigned this week. What happens practically. Here in the house . is Is really very little. Nothing in fact . There is no official sanction of the House rules . The Democrats and Republicans in their own internal rules do make provisions for. When a member of their party becomes under indictment . Typically of the Republicans it's to take away his subcommittee chairmanship . If he has one of the committee chairmanship of the Democrats a little bit different . But in this case the Democrats they're going to give him a committee. Much less a. Chairmanship. So he has no committee there's nothing for them to do. Continue to serve continue to draw a salary. Unless he chooses to step down which no one expects. In fact just the opposite they expect him to continue to run for reelection and . He has been indicted before one thousand nine hundred two he was indicted on corruption charges . Accepting bribes when he was sheriff there in Youngstown. He defended himself . At a novel defense said that he was. He took the money but that he was conducting his own sting operation against people who were giving it to him in the jury acquitted. He says that this time he's going to defend himself again . And that he has evidence of from his own investigation of the Justice Department the F.B.I. . Corruption in his area of Ohio so. We shall see . USA Today . Thank you very much . As we watch this procedural vote. Dealing with the budget resolution will check back into the debate on this from earlier here in the house starting with the Rules Committee Republican member Porter Goss of Florida . One thirty one way or thirteen as we've heard require a two thirds vote . To consider on the same day as reported from the Rules Committee. Rule applies the waiver to a special report on the legislative day of May eighth two thousand and one. Providing for consideration . Or just position of a conference report. In the concurrent resolution H. Congress eighty three . Established in the congressional budget. For the United States government. For fiscal year two thousand and two IRAs are the balance of my time the balance was time for New York. Thank you gentleman from Florida . And as much time as I may consume and. Revising stand strong opposition to the rule I am at a loss to explain why we are once again preparing to circumvent the rules of this body . And cram a controversial budget conference down the throats of our colleagues what versions of leadership have to regular order . Last week's paper caper in the midnight hour was a prime illustration of the adage haste makes waste . In their haste to cover time slated for the people's business more of the same martial law is an extremely heavy handed process . For this leadership under the rules of the house the two thirds vote is required to consider a rule . On a same day the Rules Committee reports it . To be considered on the same day. Rather than with two thirds vote . This rule we are considering would waive the requirement and would also consider several procedural votes . In an elaborate game to recommit last week's conference report and bring up a revised version for. Ration. Given what we have learned about the forthcoming conference bill on the budget we shouldn't be surprised that the longer the measure is exposed to the light of day the more likely it was and die . I would note for the record that no Democrats had input on the conference report . No Democrats were invited to participate in writing this agreement. Nor were any Democrats given any information regarding the document. That would be the got budget guideline for this nation . The word in the Caucus Room is that the budget chairman refused to return the phone calls of our ranking member. This is a far cry from changing the tone in Washington . That the current leadership prides itself on. I urge my colleagues to defeat his rule and reserve the balance of my time . Generally he reserves the balance of our time the gentleman from Florida. Thank you Mr Speaker mistake I would just respond to say that the reason we are using the procedures that we are is to get us. Timely to the debate on the budget. Which we hope to have tomorrow . The way we have to do that because of the rules covering the conference reports. For preserving the progress of both chambers of the house . Require that we recommit the conference report. So we have created a way to do that. The saving it seems appropriate to do and then we will proceed tomorrow to debate on the budget . And I think that the argument now that the minority has not had a chance to say that the budget is . It is a little bit strange considering we've just had four days. And ample time to review. Had ample time to consider that document. At this time I would feel such time as he may console until the distinguished gentleman from Florida my colleague. A new member who are pleased to hear out here. Mr Geller such time as you may consider. The gentleman is recognized for such time as you may consume. I think the gentleman for yielding . Mr Speaker I rise today in strong support of this budget . As someone who grew up in relatively humble circumstances. And a one bedroom little home in Orlando Florida. I learned some of Burton things about why at a young age first . I learned that single mothers and working families desperately need tax relief. This budget provides that tax relief. To the tune of one point three five trillion dollars . Second I learned that a first class education. Is a child's passport out of poverty. This budget represents the largest investment education. In the history of the United States including a one billion dollar increase in Pell Grants and five billion dollars for reading and grades kindergarten through third grade . I also learned that senior citizens depend on their Social Security checks. And prescription drugs. To live . This budget because it's zero Security surpluses in a lockbox. And spends up to three hundred billion dollars for prescription drugs for seniors. I urge my colleagues to vote yes on the budget. This is what we came here for. I yield back the balance of my time . Back to General the gentleman from New York. Mr Speaker yield I three to extremists a gentleman from Illinois . Mr Atkins . Gentleman is recognized for three minutes . Mr Chairman of writers today are not researched into the House Senate conference report . The budget for fiscal year two thousand to rescue a cure for excluding Democrats from any. Participation in the conference. House leadership. Tried to reduce resolution down or throats . Fortunately failed because they couldn't. The members couldn't bear the light of information we had been able to review to fiscal year two thousand to the conference recruiter significantly lower. Funding for veterans for Abrams'. On the funding levels faster earlier by the House Committee on Veterans Affairs. From the House budget resolution. Under the leadership of Veterans Affairs. Chairman Chris Smith. The House many of the president's making requests for discretionary spending. For the nation's veterans . But that effort now appears to been for not. Unfortunately the Republican leadership has not kept its promises to matters and prodding themselves on the funding increases in veterans' programs. Realistically . Realistically the numbers of harm is done through programs with emergency spending . But it's timely. To reconcile the promises the veterans . Promise to America's. Joint Resolution . Made for veterans programs and House and Senate resolutions for fiscal year two thousand and two. The house added seven hundred thirty million dollars to the president's budget for veterans programs . By the Senate passed through several resolutions that were about one point seven billion dollars to the Bush request for. For veterans for Bush . For veterans groups agree that the American Legion . The two thousand and two budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs . Is not good enough. Frankly to fulfill the campaign promises . George Bush made . When quote. The letter from. Letter to the Senate from four major veterans organizations. Of America. Of Foreign Wars and disabled American veterans groups recommended by the Bush administration . Increases. The effects of inflation . For veterans. The American people understand the price to go back to my time. The gentleman from Florida continues to reserve the New York . Conference Report which first breakdown going on in the ME . For one and one half minutes. To the press for bringing to the White House. Youngsters . Enjoy themselves on the. Was really terrific . Say that the president should put his money where his photo op is. The budget that the president of the Republican leadership are pushing through this house. Cuts important programs that affect our children's education health and wellbeing. All for the sake of a tax cut that provides forty three percent of its benefits. To the wealthiest one percent of Americans who gets cut . Paediatric Graduate Medical Education training for future pediatricians to care for our kids . Gets cut by thirty five million dollars. No new funding for Head Start a program that helps to prepare. Youngsters for school. No new funding for reading and mathematics education programs that serve our children and not a dime more in this budget for that program for the next ten years. There are seven million children between the ages of eight and thirteen. They go home alone every single day . Yet the president cuts a twenty first century learning center program. That's afterschool programs. And educational opportunities for our kids . The president slashes one point four million dollars from the universal newborn . Hearing screening program an eighteen percent cut. Photo ops are one thing. But you have to put your money where your value our values are. That's what budgets about. They are about values . It's not about programs. And there are some fundamental American values at stake in this debate. Values that say everyone should have a chance to succeed . Every child should have the best education agenda ladies and gentlemen ladies at thirty minutes seconds because positional thirty seconds. Every child should have the best education the bells. Best health care in every single senior. Should have a decent secure retard. And those values . For all of the president's rhetoric . Are not in the president's budget . This is reflective of the priorities. And the values of this administration . They're not focused on American families or American children I yield back the balance of my time. Generally yields back . So some of the debate on this resolution from earlier. If this passes the House would Next consider a resolution to send the budget conference report which was followed regionally last week. Back to the committee for additional work so that a couple of missing pages would be included and some other changes could be made up to an hour of debate. Would follow followed by a vote . Special Order speeches after that we expect tonight here in the House with members allowed to speak on any topic up to an hour each that could last till midnight Eastern tonight . Then we looked at tomorrow the schedule. Includes debate on the budget resolution House Senate compromise and a bill on wildland fires. Which would let the Department of Agriculture and interior. Reimburse agencies for the cost of fighting wildfires lovelife house coverage tomorrow . And the day begins at ten A.M. Eastern here in the house . Here on C.-SPAN . But in this vote the yeas are two fourteen the nose or two hundred. The resolution is agreed to is that objection of motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH BUT YEAH. Yeah yeah. House will be in order. For what purpose gentleman from New Jersey Ross . I may be withdrawn as a co-sponsor of H.R. sixteen

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    thirteen. Without objection. Thank you sir.

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    MR. PASCRELL

    Illyria requests that members.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Illyria requests that members. Take seeds to remove their conversations to…

    Illyria requests that members. Take seeds to remove their conversations to the cloakroom .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY so who's handling your typical chair with ass…

    ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY ILY so who's handling your typical chair with ass that members standing in the. Carrying on conversation would kindly remove their conversation so that the House may continue its work .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    For what purpose gentleman from Florida Ross . Thank you Mr Speaker by the…

    For what purpose gentleman from Florida Ross . Thank you Mr Speaker by the direction of the Committee on Rules I call a POS resolution one three four and ask for its immediate consideration . The clerk or afford to resolution. House calendar number twenty one House Resolution one thirty four resolved . That

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    House Resolution one thirty four resolved . That

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    MR. GOSS

    . That upon adoption of this resolution of the conference report to…

    . That upon adoption of this resolution of the conference report to accompany the concurrent resolution . House concurrent resolution eighty three.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    eighty three.

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    THE CLERK

    A step in the congressional budget for the United States government for…

    A step in the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and two. Revising the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And setting for the appropriate budgetary levels reach of fiscal years . Two thousand and three and two through two thousand and eleven . Is hereby recommitted to the committee of conference. Gentleman from Florida is recognized for one hour before the gentleman perceives the gentleman will suspend the. Chair would kindly request that members who are carrying on conversations kindly remove those conversations to the cloakroom .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    conversations to the cloakroom . The gentleman from Florida is recognized…

    conversations to the cloakroom . The gentleman from Florida is recognized for one hour . Thank you for the speaker for trying to get order I think members. Ought to pay attention to what's going on here and I appreciate the chairs . Efforts to get members tension .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    members tension . Mr Speaker for the purpose of debate on the I yield the…

    members tension . Mr Speaker for the purpose of debate on the I yield the customary thirty minutes to the gentleman from New York . My friend and colleague

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    MR. GOSS

    customary thirty minutes to the gentleman from New York . My friend and…

    customary thirty minutes to the gentleman from New York . My friend and colleague Mr Lauder from the Rules Committee . Pending which I am myself such time as I may consume . During consideration this moment all time meals for the purpose of debate only on this matter . Mr legislation before us. Grants us a role it provides that upon adoption. Of the role the conference report to common age Conrad's eighty three shall be recommitted to the conference committee . Simply put it in plain English for our members. But we are doing as we are taking care of the necessary procedure. To get a budget debate on the floor tomorrow . What is going to happen is work on a pass this roll . Then it out or it's going to go to the other body. The rules committee is going to meet a little later in evening . Put out a roll to get the new conference report on the Florida bar with an appropriate role . And the House will call the out the business. Of deliberating and voting on the budget which we are all anxious to get to after the long opportunity we've had to reveal it in the past several days . Therefore this has somewhat of a technical matter . But it's important that in order to continue our progress towards getting the budget on the floor. That we had Optus role . I don't think there's anything unusual about it or controversial about it and I urge all member support. And I reserve the balance of my time. Germany reserves the balance of his time . The chair recognizes gentle lady from New York. Thank you Mr Speaker and I thank the gentleman from Florida for you'll do me the trust to me thirty minutes . And you my sidekick samples much time as I may consume . Mr Speaker I rise in support of the rule to recommit this flawed document.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    I rise in support of the rule to recommit this flawed document.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    Urged the leadership to use this opportunity to craft a . Real budget.…

    Urged the leadership to use this opportunity to craft a . Real budget. With input from both Republicans and Democrats. The Infamous two pissed missing pages are hardly the only flaws in this so-called agreement . Other pages are missing as well . For instance waiting in the wings of this Congress or a number of popular tax cuts including between . The house is not in our bodies. Generated from New York deserves to be heard members will kindly removes all of the conversation from the chamber. Thank you. Waiting in the wings of this Congress for a number of popular tax cuts including between eighty and one hundred fifteen billion in business tax breaks for the state tax for the nation's wealthiest citizens. And the elimination of the penalty tax. This Congress is moving through the legislative process and . Would have included these provisions in the House leadership that at the end of this. We will surpass the administration's initial proposal of one point eight trillion . Also missing are the big ticket items for starters. We seem to be missing the page . That factors in the cost of a missile defense system. If it will work but nobody knows how much it will cost but estimates run up to three hundred billion dollars . We also seem to be missing the pay for the conventional defense buildup being planned by the administration . At a cost of two hundred fifty billion over the next decade . How is this consistent with no room for increases in defense spending beyond those already proposed by the Clinton administration. Also I have yet to find the page it explains how we will maintain government services . In the face of a growing population increase in spending that inflation . Perhaps leadership. Hundred billion dollars . They have planned . And how will these cuts not impact Medicare . Urge leadership to turn over all missing pages and expose these numbers and more. On the conference committee again signing their name . Is patently and shamelessly. Honest in its current form and I reserve the balance of my. There's a balance of our time. Gentleman from Florida. Thank you out Mr Speaker I intend to restart the balance of my time. To further notice . Gentleman from Florida reserves about his time July day from New York. Misspeak you're here to me is German from Wisconsin is Dalby.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Gentleman from us constant is recognized for two minutes .

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    MR. GOSS

    constant is recognized for two minutes .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Just figure out how much time . Two minutes

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    . The speaker last. Over the last five years we have increased the…

    . The speaker last. Over the last five years we have increased the education budget on average thirteen percent year a .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    education budget on average thirteen percent year a . This year President…

    education budget on average thirteen percent year a . This year President Bush has cut that rate of increase in his budget in half to five point eight percent.

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    MR. OBEY

    The House Republican budget resolution. Did the same thing that the…

    The House Republican budget resolution. Did the same thing that the president did . The Senate . Then said that is woefully inadequate for education. And they added two hundred forty billion dollars for education over ten years by taking it out of the jumbo sized tax cuts. This resolution not only eliminates the entire two hundred forty billion dollar add on over ten years for education . It also takes . Funding for education . Twenty five billion dollars below the president's own budget . Over the next ten years . And for this coming year alone . Takes the education funding a billion dollars The President Bush's budget . That is no compromise. That's returning to yesteryear . If this is the Republican idea of how you put education first. I would hate to see their idea of how you don't. Everything including education is being sacrificed . To jumble size tax cuts for people who make over two hundred thousand dollars a year. That does not represent the priority judgments of the American people . This president. This bill should not only be voted down it should be. Last time the gentleman has expired. Chair recognize the gentle lady from New York . Here I'm here to Manny's to the gentleman from Texas Mr Stanton. Gentleman from Texas is recognized for two minutes. The speaker . Rise in opposition to this rule .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    opposition to this rule . And I do so with a great deal of disappointment.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    Disappointment in the procedure. That is being

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    followed but I understand why. And I appreciate very much that . The…

    followed but I understand why. And I appreciate very much that . The chairman of the

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    MR. STENHOLM

    very much that . The chairman of the Budget Committee. Has been the lone…

    very much that . The chairman of the Budget Committee. Has been the lone exception of. Trying to seek some kind of bipartisanship on this budget. But obviously he's been overruled by the leadership the same leadership that brings this rule today . That has to have martial law . To pass the budget. Martial law to pass the budget after we spent sixteen and a half hours on this floor. Last Thursday. Waiting on the majority to come up with their idea of what the budget. Should look like. Now I can give you ten solid reasons why you ought to vote against the budget but that's not what we're talking about today. What we're talking about today is the rule. I don't know how much longer the majority is going to be in lockstep with breaking every rule and precedent of the house that you used to criticize us on this offer doing only. I don't believe we ever did as good a job that it is you're doing tonight. And as you did last week. This is ridiculous . As one that would like to see some semblance of bipartisanship on the budget. I came to the conclusion that was impossible. And I understand why . And as a member of the minority are understand why we're not going to win any. But at some point in time. I would hope there would be just a team give conscience . As to the procedures of the house and to how we might get a little better comedy and working together on things like defense. And it occasion . And health care. And agriculture. Other than the manner in which this particular budget that this rule makes an order will do. Because I will guarantee you there will be bipartisanship when we start dealing with the specifics . But so many of you on the majority have chosen. Under your leadership. To ignore that. To bring this rule to the floor. I urge a vote no and let's go back and do it right. Barred from New York . To speak your idea to man is to the gentleman from New Jersey Mr Hall . Gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for two minutes when I thank my friend from New York for using me the time . A quarter of a

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    thank my friend from New York for using me the time . A quarter of a

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    thank my friend from New York for using me the time . A quarter of a

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    the time . A quarter of a century. A quarter of a century ago. When the…

    the time . A quarter of a century. A quarter of a century ago. When the budget process was established. It was established so that we could look at all of the numbers.

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    MR. HOLT

    In a measured considered way the income of the outgo and make sure that…

    In a measured considered way the income of the outgo and make sure that numbers add up . It was not intended to be done in the dark of night in a hurried manner with some numbers there and some numbers not there and . Who knows what's there. Well. That's what we've ended up with today. And this is a flagrant violation of the whole spirit of the budget process . And in this hurry to get this tax cut through. In an ill considered way . We end up with. Terrible a terrible short changing of the American people. Take education for example. Inadequate consideration for our national need to recruit teachers to find ways to get the two point two million teachers that we need in the next ten years . To keep up with the retirement and attrition. In the ranks of teaching . Insufficient attention to the need for new facilities . And modern. Classrooms where the. Classes of a reasonable size. Can meet in good conditions. With insufficient attention to the other concerns. Take special education for example. Under I.D.E.'s say if we're going to meet our national obligation the federal government's . Obligation for special education . Why that would come to something on the order of one hundred billion dollars over ten years. Do we find that . In this budget resolution. No we don't. Education to short changed at every turn. And what we've got coming from the House Senate conference committee. Appears to be . Eight zero zero way of the education budget holding it at a a level that doesn't even keep up with inflation . This is totally inadequate. And it's the result of this hurried. Inadequate process. I think the gentleman has expired . Your lady from New York. The speaker here two minutes gentle lady from California Ms Woolsey. To the lady from California is recognized for two minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker Mr Speaker it's outrageous that . This week Congress will vote on a budget that threatens the future our for our nation's most valuable asset .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    future our for our nation's most valuable asset .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    our nation's most valuable asset . Our children.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    No wonder the Republican leadership tried to rush the budget to the floor…

    No wonder the Republican leadership tried to rush the budget to the floor last week . Without

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    MS. WOOLSEY

    leadership tried to rush the budget to the floor last week . Without…

    leadership tried to rush the budget to the floor last week . Without allowing adequate consideration . But then I believe . They thought they could pull the wool over our eyes . By misplacing. Two of the pages of that budget . Mr Speaker is nit . Ironic that the two missing pages contain the details of the one point three five trillion dollars tax cut . It appears that those two pages are the essence of how the Republican leadership . Will pay for their massive tax break. By cutting funding for vital services for American women and their families including Temporary Assistance for Needy Families . Workforce training and employment programs. Community anti-violence and anti drug programs and over . All education. Forward to the funding of our children. Moreover by prioritizing tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans Mr Speaker the Republican leadership is signing away the future of Social Security and the Medicare trust fund. In addition to harming children . It appears they want to undermine the future of grandparents. To . This is on. Acceptable. I urge my colleagues . Vote for the rule to recommit. Vote against this budget. Thank you and I yield back. Tom a July visa expired to live in from New York for me to speak here I'm here to minister the gentleman from Texas Mr Stanley. Gentleman from Texas is recognized for two minutes because . Thank you Mr Speaker . Mr Speaker in the words of President Reagan.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    in the words of President Reagan. There they go again.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    again. Fresh from the missing page debacle . We're

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    back with more of the same . It

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    MR. SANDLIN

    seems that pieces of paper aren't the only things missing. As we appear…

    seems that pieces of paper aren't the only things missing. As we appear here today . The administration and the leadership talk a very good game. They tell us they want to increase education spending . They tell us they want to prescription drug plan for seniors . They tell us they want funding for disaster relief but you know what the numbers say something entirely different because they just don't compute they just don't add up . The American public will not be fooled. Because in fact it seems that there's a lot more missing. Than two pieces of paper . Missing. There were twenty one billion dollars in education funding missing from this budget . This budget is found last week provides. Even less money than the president requested in his budget. Twenty one billion dollars less than requested . The leadership talks a good game about about partisan education bill. And that's all well and good . But having eye bipartisan bill and talking about it doesn't do much when you don't make a good faith effort. To fund education of our children . Missing. The explanation of how to adequately fund. A Medicare prescription plan . Is missing from this budget. President Bush has suggested we spend about one hundred fifteen billion dollars on a program to help seniors . Everyone else in the country. Same to acknowledge that it will take at least a minimum of three hundred billion dollars . To provide anything close to a fair and adequate benefit for senior citizens. But this budget fails to pay for such a benefit . Missing. Another five billion dollars to cover natural disasters as missing from the. Budget and the years that I have represent in my district we have been hit by tornadoes floods droughts ice storms my citizens depend on the fema . And they've been there to provide relief for the citizens of my district. However this budget completely XS that Al. This five billion dollars is important and should not be dropped due to a procedural dispute. Mr Speaker much more is missing than two pieces of paper . Much more is missing than two pages in this budget. The priorities of America are missing . The greatness of America's missing. Arj my colleagues to vote for the motion to recommit. Thank you suspect Alan Jones expired and later from New York. Mr Speaker I yield to ministers gentleman from Florida Mr gave me this court has recognized for two minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker I rise in opposition to the resolution . This conference report which we're going to debate tonight. Has

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    going to debate tonight. Has some fundamental flaws in it which should to…

    going to debate tonight. Has some fundamental flaws in it which should to lead us to go very. Back

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    flaws in it which should to lead us to go very. Back to the beginning back…

    flaws in it which should to lead us to go very. Back to the beginning back to the drawing board I just want to highlight what I think is the most egregious problem. We

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    to the drawing board I just want to highlight what I think is the most…

    to the drawing board I just want to highlight what I think is the most egregious problem. We

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    MR. CAVES

    think is the most egregious problem. We

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    MR. DAVIS

    problem. We have actually. Short change education below what the president…

    problem. We have actually. Short change education below what the president has proposed. Now many of us a plot of the president during his campaign . For talking about leaving no child behind . And doing more to help our schools reduce class size . Attract qualified teachers as we face a teacher shortage. Build safe and clean and modern schools . And he proposed an increase in education spending that many of us thought was simply a beginning. Simply a start. And now here in the House of Representatives tonight. We're actually going to adopt a conference report that is twenty one billion dollars less than where the president has proposed. Nobody has had the courage to stand on the floor of the house tonight and say why we should do less than the present the United States has proposed for all we all the great should be our nation's highest priority. I know in Florida and in my hometown but this is our highest priority and. People I represent want us to pay down the debt . They want to see a fair tax cut the benefits all Americans but. I want to do something about education. We ought at least have the courage to stand up to where the president has start of the debate. In terms of leaving no child behind. Instead tonight . This house is breaking from the president is repudiating his position. Is funding education a twenty one billion dollars less than what the president proposed. How can we go forward to baiting the elementary and secondary Authorization Act refers to take up blacks wait. We're putting all the money into a tax cut instead and yield back the balance of my time. So many years back . Gentle lady from New York . Mr Speaker I yield to me suggests lady from California Miss Waters. She lady from California is recognized for two minutes . Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen what a sorry rule . With been waiting

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    all year to get details of a proposed budget.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    And we have been forced to vote on crucial issues such as a tax cut…

    And we have been forced to vote on crucial issues such as a tax cut without saying the budget. Now we

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    without saying the budget. Now we have been forced to vote on a budget.…

    without saying the budget. Now we have been forced to vote on a budget. Which

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    MS. WATERS

    a budget. Which we have had no input and. Only have gotten access to the…

    a budget. Which we have had no input and. Only have gotten access to the cause of human error. This type of process is unfair and extremely heavy handed. President Bush promised the American people that he would be the education president . He campaigned on a slogan of. Leave no child behind . When he gave his State of the Union address. He stated . Education is my top priority. And by supporting this budget. You'll make it yours as well get this budget . Has no substantial new funding for education. The president says danceable. Commitment to education like assistance a pole commitment to bipartisanship . Is a hoax. He took over two hundred eighty eight billion over the next ten years . Out of the budget for education. This amount had bipartisan support in the Senate . Yet the conference agreement. Eliminate ninety percent of that increase funding. This amazingly. Two percent increase amounts to a mere. Thirteen dollars per student per year. The balanced budget the Democrats offered. And that with. Publicans unanimously rejected . Called for one hundred twelve billion encrease in education funding over ten years . This funding. Would have provided for a class size reduction school renovation. Teacher recruitment . Increased sponsor special education. Expansion of Pell Grants and additional funds for head start announcing support for education. Without providing funding to back it up . Is no more than another empty promise. From a president whose legacy. Will more likely be . His consistent flip flop on crucial issues rather than any proposed commitment to education members. You're going to hear a lot about education this evening. He promised. He promised he promised. He has broken that promise . In the way that he's put this budget together. I asked for a no vote on the rule. Expired Gelati from New York. Mr Speaker I yield to minister gentleman from Maryland Mr Hoyer. Gentleman from Maryland is recognized. For two minutes about that objection.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    about that objection.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    about that objection. The speaker yesterday my friend from New York Mr…

    about that objection. The speaker yesterday my friend from New York Mr Reynolds was quoted in Roll Call it saying and I quote .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    friend from New York Mr Reynolds was quoted in Roll Call it saying and I…

    friend from New York Mr Reynolds was quoted in Roll Call it saying and I quote . That Democrats are whining about the process rather than getting into a debate on the substance.

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    MR. HOYER

    on the substance.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    I'm going to talk about substance tomorrow but let me talk about process…

    I'm going to talk about substance tomorrow but let me talk about process today .

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    MR. HOYER

    substance tomorrow but let me talk about process today . And I asked by.…

    substance tomorrow but let me talk about process today . And I asked by. Members on the majority side of the aisle . Don't they think that two hundred and twelve Americans who represent. Approximately two hundred and thirty five million Americans are not Democrats . Two hundred thirty five million Americans who had no opportunity to see the substance of your proposal. On Thursday night. Can we cry foul over a bunch of Republican budget process. That completely shuts out. The representatives of the people. Not us as individuals . But all of the people that we represent. Republicans Democrats independents . And yes those who are not online. All ranking member of the Budget Committee . Wasn't allowed into the conference. On this resolution . Yet we adopt a rule that today will not debate substance but by what process along . Will recommit this bill to the committee. I'm pretty sure I directed a few Republican tears . In the wee hours of the morning that they couldn't get this through. It's a matter of fact I . heard The distinguished gentleman from Florida my friend talking about the. And that and lamenting and after all that's when the majority learned the painful truth . It would have to wait for days. Look who's crying now my friend. You've got a weekend of bad press on this. Frankly him handed budget. Tactics . And people are starting to reexamine the substance in this budget . A budget the provide huge tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans . And watch the budget ax fall . On education. Contrary to the bipartisan agreement the other body. Seniors who need prescription drugs. And our environment. Let us vote down . This rule . Let us return this matter. To the American people and have a full and fair debate . Tom Jones expired June lady from New York. Mr Speaker I have to manage the gentle lady from Texas Ms Jackson Lee from Texas is recognized for two minutes .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . And. Without

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    objection. I thank the general a D. from New York very much for her…

    objection. I thank the general a D. from New York very much for her kindness I asked revise and extend . Just four

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    kindness I asked revise and extend . Just four days ago the lights went…

    kindness I asked revise and extend . Just four days ago the lights went out in the House of Representatives. Though many of us were here approaching .

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    . All seeking the opportunity to have a full debate. On a budget that all…

    . All seeking the opportunity to have a full debate. On a budget that all of America could support. But unfortunately it did not happen. We waited and we waited and we waited and all of a sudden pages were missing. And I believe the real key is whether the American people will have their voices heard and whether or not they will know for sure that this is a budget that actually invades a so Security trust fund. And the Medicare trust fund. Because of the one point three trillion dollar tax cut that will be over a ten year period two thousand and eleven will show us. With an invasion in so Security and Medicare. Today in my district there was an older American seminar. And some of the major questions being raised was what's happening to Medicare. And what's happening to so security. What's happening to the real drug prescription benefit that you promised us . Almost two and three years ago . Or what I can say to them there is no room at the end. And there's no money in the house. And when we speak of educating our children two hundred ninety four billion dollars for education. It's all of a sudden missing. Interestingly enough the president who indicates that education is his chief responsibility . Has money for reading and has money for Pell Grants and I agree with it. But where's money the for the other programs that we so sorely need . Whether it's issues like Title one whether it's. Issues of special education whether it's. Issue for school construction. Where is a full commitment for the federal government collaboration with local government dealing with health. The National Institutes of Health should be support it. But if you exclude the National Institutes of Health funding from health coverage. Or health funding in the budget. You'll find that that money is insufficient to take your the needs . Like uninsured children in America one million in the state of Texas. We only of role of three to four hundred thousand. And so children are uninsured and we need to. Dollars to be able to assist. If we talk about civil rights if we talk about election reform . Budgets in the Justice Department have been cut and so we're not serious about election reform. Also rights in this country I'd simply say Mr Speaker . Let's turn the lights on. Let's do this in a bipartisan way. Let's get a real budget let's oppose a resolution that's on the floor back to expire July day from New York to speak here I'm going to manage the gentleman from Pennsylvania Mr Hatfield gentleman from Pennsylvania is recognized for two minutes. Thank you Mr Speaker. I thank the general lady for yielding. I support sending this.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    sending this. This bill back to committee there is so much work the…

    sending this. This bill back to committee there is so much work the Conference Committee still has to do . I say with

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  • 06:54:46 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    much work the Conference Committee still has to do . I say with respect to…

    much work the Conference Committee still has to do . I say with respect to the gentle lady who talked about missing pages . There's more

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    than just pages missing from this document there are whole chapters . That…

    than just pages missing from this document there are whole chapters . That are

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    MR. HOEFFEL

    whole chapters . That are missing. Just look at the president's priorities…

    whole chapters . That are missing. Just look at the president's priorities that Mara not funded or included. How are we going to pay for a national missile defense. The president's talking about that. That is eight hundred . Hundreds of billions of dollars. Not recognized in this budget document. How are we going to pay for his military buildup that he's going to ask for in about two weeks . Probably twenty five billion dollars a year. How we're going to pay for that it's not mentioned in this budget . How are we going to pay for his. proposal To privatized Social Security. If that's implemented. There are probably one trillion dollars in transition costs. Yet this budget document. Is completely silent . On those presidential priorities. There's an awful lot missing in this document Mr Speaker. The problem is it cut taxes too deeply . And it has far too little for debt reduction . The American people want us to pay down the debt . The American people that I represent . Want. Debt reduction that is a higher priority for them. Than large tax cuts . And they certainly don't want us to take our budget process back. To on balance budgets. Deficit spending and year. Years and years of debt. Mr Speaker we need to return this. For the missing pages. The missing chapters . To be added . I support a yes vote on recommit will. I yield back to Joe many years back from New York. Mr Speaker I am here to mention gentleman from Texas Mr means the gentleman from Texas is recognized for two minutes a speaker the the hottest play on Broadway is a play about a washed up producer on his urse wild accountant who tried to sell a flop to Little all widows . And instead of

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    sell a flop to Little all widows . And instead of selling one hundred…

    sell a flop to Little all widows . And instead of selling one hundred percent they sell a thousand percent and when it goes under then they'll take the rest of the hottest play in Washington apparently is the budget resolution that's before us and . Today and

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    apparently is the budget resolution that's before us and . Today and

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    apparently is the budget resolution that's before us and . Today and going…

    apparently is the budget resolution that's before us and . Today and going back to committee and come back tomorrow . Where we claim that we're going to have a tax cut that's contained and we're going to contain spending at a certain amount as at all around the capital and even on the floor today and even over at the White House today . When. Funding issues come up they say. Don't worry we'll put more education money and later. Don't worry we'll put more money and for thema later. Don't worry will fund the N.S.F. the National Science Foundation later. Don't worry . If you don't think the tax cuts big enough. Will take care of that later. And what we're producing here . Is a flop but we are selling the American people. A thousand percent of the shares. It is a it is a it is a total fraud. That is being committed through this budget . It's totally unrealistic. And at the end of the day what's going to happen is they're going to go to the appropriators and they're going to say let's just wave the budget back. And let's go ahead it's not going to be four percent. It's not going to be five percent. It's going to be six percent and what we're not going to do is have a strong base. Fiscal policy. For the good of the general economy. And we will purpose. We will report a fraud on the American people in the process. By eliminating And finally a vest reading once and for all the budget act . And I think it's a great shame that this house . And the Senate of decided to follow in the . Steps of Broadway. As opposed to doing. The American people's business and with that I yield back the balance of my time. German years back from New York. Mr Speaker I have to manage the gentleman from New Jersey Mr ANDREWS . Gentleman from New Jersey is recognized for two minutes.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Without objection.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    Thank you Mr Chairman I thank my friend from New York for a yielding.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    This budget should be sent back to the conference and it should be fixed…

    This budget should be sent back to the conference and it should be fixed in the way it ought to be fixed is that the budget plan put forth by Mr Spratt.

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    MR. ANDREWS

    the way it ought to be fixed is that the budget plan put forth by Mr…

    the way it ought to be fixed is that the budget plan put forth by Mr Spratt. Last month ought to be substituted for what is before what will be before us tomorrow . In the years from the inception of the republic. To nine hundred ninety two . To excuse me to nine hundred eighty . We ran up a public debt of about one trillion dollars. To fight and win World War one . World War two to go away out of the Great Depression . Build the Interstate Highway System . To all the things America did. In those years . In the years between one nine hundred eighty and one nine hundred ninety two. We more than quadrupled . That debt . By the time nine hundred ninety three rolled around we were in excess of five trillion dollars in debt. The major difference between the plan that will be before us tomorrow . And the plan that should be . Before us tomorrow is this . At the end of the ten year period. Giving the most charitable interpretation to the majority's plan . When you compare it to the ten year period under Mr Spratt's plan. Our children will be approximately one half trillion dollars . Greater in debt. Under the majority's plan than if we adopted Mr Spratt's plan. That's one half trillion dollars I think it's really closer to a trillion if you use. Honest accounting . That we are choosing to saddle our children with. When I came here in one nine hundred ninety . Fiscal conservatives. Wanted to eliminate the deficit. And pay down the debt. While the worm has turned . And it appears to me that those who call themselves fiscal conservatives now. Stand up for fiscal irresponsibility . Send this budget back to the conference and fix it and relieve our. Children of the debt that we are imposing upon them. Tom Jones expired. From New York. Mr Speaker I have three minutes in general from South Carolina Mr Spratt. Gentleman from South Carolina . Is recognized for three minutes . Without

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . Without

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    three. Hundred billion dollars

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . And BAM it

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    MR. SPRATT

    committee tables on this side and .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. SPRATT

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. GOSS

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. SPRATT

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. GOSS

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. SPRATT

    committee tables on this side and .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    committee tables on this side and .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    committee tables on this side and .

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    MR. GOSS

    committee tables on this side and . Explaining they have the budget. That…

    committee tables on this side and . Explaining they have the budget. That we are proposing . Tonight we are proposing a roll. Because we are the rules committee . The rules designed to get the budget on the floor because that's much more interesting and more important and. That's what we hope to accomplish . And I want to thank all of those for their forbearance as we've gone through this procedure which is not something that we had anticipated when we started . But I appreciate the comedy and. Good humor and pleasant commentary and of bipartisanship. I yield back the balance of my time I your support of the role of the previous question. Without objection the previous question is ordered. Questions on adoption of the resolution those in favor say aye . Those opposed say no and in pain the chair the ayes have it. Gentle lady from New York I expect I am going to average object and vote on the grounds of performers not present make a point of order that form is not a present. To lady from New

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    form is not a present. To lady from New York objects to the vote on the…

    form is not a present. To lady from New York objects to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present. Evidently a quorum is not present under the rule the A's Naser order. Numbers record their votes by like tronic device .

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    votes by like tronic device .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    So here the House is now voting on a procedure to send the fiscal year two…

    So here the House is now voting on a procedure to send the fiscal year two thousand and two . Nearly two trillion

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    MR. SPRATT

    Chair lays before the House the following personal requests . Leaves of…

    Chair lays before the House the following personal requests . Leaves of absence requested for Mrs Jones of Ohio for today.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Jones of Ohio for today. Mr Stump of their result . For today . And for…

    Jones of Ohio for today. Mr Stump of their result . For today . And for May ninth and since then Mr Taylor of North Carolina for today . Without objection

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    THE CLERK

    the requests are granted . For one

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . For one purpose gentleman from Utah all Ross has just bigger I ask…

    . For one purpose gentleman from Utah all Ross has just bigger I ask unanimous consent unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into the following members may be permitted to address the house. Revise and extend the remarks . And include there in

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    extraneous material . Mr Henchy for five minutes Ms Norton for five…

    extraneous material . Mr Henchy for five minutes Ms Norton for five minutes Mr you know how so for five minutes Mr Davis for five minutes Mr plan for five minutes and Mr Rush for five minutes.

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    MR. MATHESON

    Davis for five minutes Mr plan for five minutes and Mr Rush for five…

    Davis for five minutes Mr plan for five minutes and Mr Rush for five minutes. That objection to what purpose gentleman from Virginia Ross. The speaker asked him is consented to day following legislative business that. And any special orders heretofore entered into the following members may be permitted to address the house revise extend their remarks and include their extraneous material .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . Mr Walden today for five minutes Mr Burton today. And May ninth and…

    . Mr Walden today for five minutes Mr Burton today. And May ninth and tenth . For five minutes

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    . For five minutes . Each Mr Rohrabacher today for five minutes. Ms…

    . For five minutes . Each Mr Rohrabacher today for five minutes. Ms Emerson. On May ninth for five minutes Mr Hunter today for five minutes Mr Goodlatte today for five minutes. And Mr English on May tenth for five minutes. Without objection. One of the speakers announced policy of January third two thousand one another a previous sort of the house the following members are recognized for five minutes each. Mr Henchy of New York.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Thank you very much Mr Speaker I wanted to address. Myself the C. evening…

    Thank you very much Mr Speaker I wanted to address. Myself the C. evening to a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States . Which came down. Around the end of last month about two to two and a half weeks ago .

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    MR. HINCHEY

    two to two and a half weeks ago . It's a decision by the Supreme Court. A…

    two to two and a half weeks ago . It's a decision by the Supreme Court. A five four decision another one of those narrow . Decisions that is decided by one of the nine justices . Which I think. Has very deep and compelling implications for every American . Let me tell you what that decision entail . It involved the case. In the state of Texas . The situation was this. A woman. A young mother. Was bringing two of her children . Home from soccer practice. She was driving a pickup truck. The two children were in the cab with her. She was driving through a community . At fifteen miles per hour . She was stopped by a police officer of that community . And . She was stopped because the police officer observe that she was not wearing a seat belt. There was no other infraction. She was driving below the speed limit. She had not violated any other of the vehicle in traffic laws or anything else. She was simply stopped by the police officer. Because he observed that she was not wearing a seat belt . He stopped her with her two children and. He placed her under arrest. He put her in handcuffs . Arrested her took her into custody . And was about to take the two children into custody . When fortunately. A neighbor came by and . Took . Study. Of the two children and took them home about the woman was arrested and taken off to jail and handcuffs . She was later. Forced to pace. Face bond. Three hundred ten dollars bond. For a violation the fine for which would have been no more than fifty dollars. If the maximum fine. Had been imposed. The woman sued the city of in Texas. It went through the court system and finally worked its way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court in a five four decision . To cleared. That the officer was right . And arresting her . He was right and putting her in handcuffs. He was right taking her into custody taking or to jail and all and it was right to force her to post a barrel of more than three hundred dollars . And by the way. In the meantime they searched. The vehicle. They searched the pickup truck . And they. They cut they found some very dangerous equipment in the truck. A bicycle. To try sickles . A cooler for keeping the beverages cool . Some barbecue equipment . And a pair of children's shoes . That's what they found in the back of the truck. The Supreme Court said that that was a right . Now I'm here this evening talking about this because I'm increasingly disturbed by these right wing decisions that are being made by a court which places in jeopardy. The civil liberties and the civil rights of every single American . Because after that Supreme Court decision. THE COURT. In effect has made a law . It is now the law of the land . That any police officer in any community at any time can stop anybody . For not wearing a seat belt. And take them into custody . And take their children into custody to for that matter parent link. And search their vehicle. Simply because they were not wearing a seat belt . It's interesting to note. As I mentioned earlier . I five to four decision we're seeing a lot of these five to four decisions recently the. Five justices included. Justice Kennedy who was appointed by President Reagan. Justice Rehnquist who was appointed by President Nixon. And elevated to be the supreme. The Supreme Justice Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. By President Reagan. Also joining in the majority was Justice Thomas who was appointed by President Bush the first President Bush. And also . Mr Justice Scalia who was appointed by President Reagan. Also oddly enough . Justice Souter who usually has better sense than to join these other four in these decisions. But on this particular occasion it seems. Perhaps his experience as a prosecutor before becoming a judge. May have overcome him. And he displayed. The kind of bad judgment which is exemplified in this five to four . Supreme Court decision . I'm worried about this. Also because we have seen recently that the president of the United States. Mr Bush the second Mr Bush has made it clear that he is no longer going to take recommendations from the American Bar Association . With regard to . Justices on any of the federal courts that is the federal appeals court the circuit court. Courts or the United States Supreme Court. And he instead he is going to take recommendations from the Federalist Society . I think that we all ought to be deeply concerned about what is going on in our courts . And about the way that this particular decision. Typifies. Or exemplifies at least. The kind of bad decisions that are being made on a five to four basis. And the Supreme Court of the United States . The gentleman from Oregon Mr Walden is recognized for five minutes. Here. Mr Speaker I rise today to update my colleagues in the house . On the crisis affecting the people the Klamath Basin in Oregon and California . Yesterday I attended what was called a bucket brigade we had buckets like these representing each of the fifty states where we took water out of a lake and symbolically.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    each of the fifty states where we took water out of a lake and…

    each of the fifty states where we took water out of a lake and symbolically.

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    MR. WALDON

    where we took water out of a lake and symbolically. Handed it down a chain…

    where we took water out of a lake and symbolically. Handed it down a chain of people one point two miles long . To dump it in the canal that this year. Will have no water in it. These are the people that were at the rally . In all my years in public office here and. In Oregon I've never seen. Close to sixteen thousand people turn out to protest . A government action . But that occurred in Klamath Falls yesterday . Peaceful civil disobedience . Making the case for reforming the Endangered Species Act. And let me tell you what people are saying let me share with you some of the letters and comments. This from a Vietnam veteran who earned a medal for heroism. Who flies in the Klamath Basin. In a crop duster . When the season starts up we have just about used dollar savings from the previous season. Taxes take a huge chunk out of my check since I have no retirement plan from work. I have to put what little I can into that . We have house payments do food to put on the table heating bills. I have no money left . I'm going to have to start drawing from our IRA and with penalties and interest that's a poor option . But all I have we're going to lose our house . We can't sell it because everyone here is in the same boat . It's worth nothing. Help us . And this from a woman from Mullin the decision of no water for irrigation comes as a disaster a major disaster to our small communities of Melinde in Maryland to Lake. The government can offer low interest loans but who will be able to ever pay them back . Our spirit is broken . How can the government ever be trusted again . Contracts for water in the Klamath project. Or by the way there are a thousand farmers that will not get water this year for the first time since this project was created nearly one hundred years ago . Contracts for this water been broken and our water is stolen. Why would we build more storage to have it taken away by another group. There are school football fields and city parks that will get no water this. summer Ladies and gentlemen there have already been two. Traffic accidents on the major highway because this area is turning into a dust bowl . And it will this summer. Because the government has said . It needs all the water. For the suckers . In Klamath Lake. And for the salmon in Klamath River. So the reasonable and prudent decision of the government. And I put those two words in quotes is to say the ranchers The farmers can have no water . The schools that rely on the water for their fields in the cities for their. Parks will have no water. The people will have no income. The people will have no livelihood. They have no way to survive if they have no water to put on their crops because nothing will be raised. Nothing will be grown. Nothing will be harvested. Because the Endangered Species Act as written today . Makes no provision for people for communities . Like Klamath Falls OR Milind. Or Merrill. Or Tooley lake. No . These people are left off the plate. They have no seat at the table of public policy. They're being wiped out by this decision . It is wrong . The time has come to a change in a man the Endangered Species Act . So that we don't take these unilateral decisions . That white people out. Sixteen thousand people in the Klamath Basin turned out yesterday . To try to get the attention of the country. To get the attention of this Congress . That changes needed. We can work together . To have a cleaner environment. But we don't have to wipe agriculture off the map to do it. We can work together to provide for habitat for fish . But we don't have to create a dustbowl to do it. We don't have to rely on science that's now being questioned by those who have finally out an opportunity to energy to look at it. Who say maybe that science isn't right . But let me tell you on April sixth the decision was made the head gates were closed and they'll be closed all year the water will not flow it is too late to plant. The contracts will be lost. Farmers have nothing to put in the ground and if they did no water to make it grow. So we will approach this Congress for disaster relief . It's an option we wish we didn't have to do. But we well because we have no other option for this year . And we will approach this Congress and vigorously fight for changes in the Endangered Species Act . This can happen to you because it's happened to these people who fought for our country . Provided for our people to farm the land. Thank you Mr Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from Iowa arise. For Speaker I submit the conference report on the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year two thousand and two for printing under the rule. The clerk will report the title conference report to accompany house concurrent resolution . Eighty three

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    concurrent resolution . Eighty three concurrent resolution .

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    MR. NUSSLE

    Establishing the congressional budget for the United States government for…

    Establishing the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and two. Revising the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And setting

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And…

    the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And setting

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    THE CLERK

    thousand and one . And setting forth appropriate budgetary levels . For…

    thousand and one . And setting forth appropriate budgetary levels . For each of fiscal years . Two thousand and three through two thousand and eleven . Ordered printed the gentlewoman from the District of Columbia. Ms Norton . Is recognized for five minutes a gentleman from Indiana . Mr Burton is

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    a gentleman from Indiana . Mr Burton is recognized for five minutes . The…

    a gentleman from Indiana . Mr Burton is recognized for five minutes . The gentleman from Texas Mr in a house is recognized for five minutes . General thank California Mr Rohrabacher is recognized for five minutes. Thank you very much . I rise tonight. To discuss an issue that relates directly to the safety of the men and women whose task it is to defend our country . It also goes to the heart of the American lead in the aviation technology upon which we depend so much for over a decade I backed a project that I believed would permit. America

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    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I backed a project that I believed would permit. America to take the lead…

    I backed a project that I believed would permit. America to take the lead in the next major step in aviation technology . That is vertical takeoff and vertical landing aircraft . Unfortunately it is clear now that the project. The Osprey project. Has been a costly. And a dangerous failure. Of the eleven aircraft built for of crushed . Ford made for have crashed . Three of the crashes resulted in thirty three fatalities. That's thirty dead heroes. Whom we cannot bring back . The flight crews that were lost were the most experienced on this craft. And some of the best. And the brightest . Of the Marine Corps. On page thirty two of the most recent copy of the Marine Corps Gazette. There is an article by a pilot who is also a weapons and tactics instructor that underscores the skepticism about the viability of the Osprey program. Then there is the alarming. Allegations of a cover up. A cover up and records false of occasion by Marine officers directly involved in the Osprey's operational testing. Recently the Defense Department's blue ribbon panel . Echoed the finding of the Marine Corps accident mishap board . In recommending. Extensive redesign of the craft. All of this calls into question . The Osprey's. Future used by the military . An of equal significance . It's. Commercial viability . No commercial aviation company. In this country . Is ever going to get insurance on a craft . With this kind of safety record. The blue ribbon panel. Mandates that we go back to the drawing board. That is not a count of NATION. Of vertical landing vertical take off . It is a condemnation of the Osprey program. Vertical takeoff and vertical landing technologies . Are the way to alleviate. Are overcrowded airports. To ease our overburdened air traffic control systems . And to ensure our military's ability to respond . When our runways have been destroyed by a wartime adversary. To pull us into the twenty first century. We need to have simple vertical takeoff vertical landing aircraft . With longer range. Higher speed and greater pay Loyd payload capacity . Perhaps like a transport version of the Harrier jet tomorrow . This Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee. A subcommittee that I chair . Will be holding a hearing on one such. Aircraft that holds promise for the future . And it will fly for the first time this summer. Let me note that my father was a Marine pilot . These thirty casualties . During the testing of the OSS re program. Are unconscionable . Thirty dead Marines we do not need any more dead Marines. The Osprey program. Is a failure. But the vertical landing. Are vertical take off vertical landing concept is. Not . We should not abandon that technology . And we should try to keep America first in aviation technology . By ensuring that new concepts of vertical landing vertical takeoff will be available to the American military . And also available. To commercial aviation . So that the United States of America will be able to fly. It's up to date . Cutting edge aircraft throughout the world. And remain the leader in aviation technology creating jobs for our people and creating a capability both militarily and commercially. That will keep America. Ahead. Of the competition . And I had. Of our adversaries. So I would ask my colleagues . Tomorrow. To pay attention to our hearing. And I'd ask the public to pay attention to the hearing of the space there not accept committee that I chair. And we will be examining the vertical takeoff and vertical landing concept. And perhaps some of the reasons why . The old program failed and why there is hope that better technology is available in the future. And the technology that would protect our military people . And offer great commercial possibilities for our country. Thank you very much and I would submit for the record. The article in the Marine Corps because that entitled V. twenty two Osprey . Or diesel or Edsel at us excuse me . But not objection. For what purpose the gentleman from Texas rise. To speak Irish the national scene in your dress house for five minutes without objection . Thank you Mr Speaker and I asked him to revise and extend my remarks . And I

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    . And I rise and speak tonight to discuss a report that was just released…

    . And I rise and speak tonight to discuss a report that was just released yesterday by. The National Institute

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    MR. GREEN

    just released yesterday by. The National Institute for Health Care…

    just released yesterday by. The National Institute for Health Care Management Foundation which stated that. Spending on

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Management Foundation which stated that. Spending on

  • 07:52:50 PM

    MR. GREEN

    prescription drugs has increased. Almost one thousand percent in the last…

    prescription drugs has increased. Almost one thousand percent in the last year and . I'm deeply troubled by this report is that underscores a current need for this Congress. To modernize medicine. Medicare to include a prescription drug benefit . Spending on retail outpatient prescription drugs rose almost one thousand percent in two thousand . From one hundred eleven billion dollars to one hundred thirty one point nine billion dollars approximately half of that spending increase can be attributed to just twenty three per script and drugs are pharmaceuticals . Among those drugs are the blockbuster ones we hear about Vioxx. LIPPERT or sell of wrecks and. Luck a PI. And it's I'm not pronouncing it correctly but. The very drugs that seniors rely on every day to treat chronic long term illnesses such as diabetes authorized us . Are high cholesterol . In fact my mother in law. Of the for those four drugs actually takes three of them every day for seniors who have no prescription drug coverage . They simply have no choice but to pay these top dollar. Are for these expensive medications . Or go without. And that's what they're doing every day. They're going without because they can't afford them fully one third of our Medicare beneficiaries and these are old numbers. Because that was before so many of our Medicare H.M.O.'s. Withdrew from the market . At least for one third of them . Have no prescription drug coverage and all I hear from constituents. Literally every day . Who have to make these tough choices on whether to pay their electric bill or their prescription drugs. In fact I have a letter I just received today from a constituent tells me. I'm holding off on some of my medications until my SO security checks are deposited in a bank on the third. And I'm out of some of them already . Seniors are struggling literally for so security check their SO security check hoping. They have enough medication to the end of the month. Another constituent man was hospitalized for a severe infection . Which uses miss from the hospital she was given three for new prescriptions. One. Which cost more than seven hundred dollars . Imagine a five year old woman asking and being asked to pay seven hundred dollars for one prescription . The other to cost. Her an additional one hundred fifty dollars bringing her grand total. To these new prescriptions. Only new ones for this current notice date hundred fifty dollars. On one trip to the pharmacy . Talk about adding insult to injury . Unfortunately the high cost of prescription drugs are not only are only getting worse . The recent government study predicts that the mapping of the human genome . The aging of the baby boom generation and prep part of the increase in spending on biomedical research will lead to introduction of more and more prescription drugs. This is a good part of it. Because we are living longer and healthier . But this is sometimes a mixed blessing. From a policy perspective . The influx of these drugs can only mean new treatments and therapies. For what are now in curable and serious diseases . But also means that the demand for these drugs and therefore the cost of these drugs will rise. Congress cannot sit idly by while our seniors. Our parents and our grandparents are forced to pay more and more of their hard earned. Retirement. On prescription drugs . And they can't afford it. Unfortunate we've seen little action. During this Congress. We've actually had one or two hearings in the health subcommittee that on the Energy and Commerce. But we haven't gone any further . For the past one hundred days all we've heard about is a tax cut. But we need to do is start addressing . Prescription drugs for senior citizens . Those forty million hardworking hardworking Americans who now. Rely on Medicare . To three hundred dollars billion at the I understand that maybe in the budget . That will actually come out of the. Medicare reform legislation . And prescription drugs is just not adequate. The real problem for our seniors every time I go to the grocery store at home or town hall meeting or visit with my seniors I'm approached on what we can do about prescription drugs for seniors . They want to know why and Washington we're not doing something about . Because they see it as an imperative that. It's not a problem today it's been a problem for over a year. And we have not addressed that. And I urge my colleagues on both sides. The majority and minority . We need to pass a prescription drug benefit that's part of Medicare . It's just like a doctor or hospital . Our prescription drug should be paid for for our seniors as part of Medicare. Now we may not be able to afford. The eighty percent that we do now for. Doctors and hospitals. But we ought to be able to grow into that and three hundred billion. Is a start but we have a long way to go . And it's and. It's a crisis now for our senior citizens it's a crisis for our parents and our grandparents . And we need to do some about it now. But Speaker I yield back my time. The gentleman from Illinois . Mr Davis is recognized for five minutes . Gentleman from California. Mr Hunter is recognized for five minutes.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    The gentleman from New Jersey Mr Polonius recognized for five minutes . A…

    The gentleman from New Jersey Mr Polonius recognized for five minutes . A gentleman from Virginia. Mr Goodlatte is recognized for five minutes . Speaker I ask unanimous consent to address the house for five minutes . That objection . Thank you Mr Speaker Mr Speaker which with great pleasure that I introduce legislation today to name the main. Roanoke United States Post Office. At four nineteen rather for an avenue in Roanoke Virginia . For my good

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    MR. GOODLATTE

    an avenue in Roanoke Virginia . For my good

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    friend former congressman M. Caldwell

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    MR. GOODLATTE

    Butler. Mr Butler is a gentleman whom I admire greatly . He served as the…

    Butler. Mr Butler is a gentleman whom I admire greatly . He served as the United States naval officer during World War two He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Richmond in one nine hundred forty eight . Where he was elected to five Beta Kappa . And OMAC Ronn Delta Kappa . In one nine hundred fifty he received an L.L.B. degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. Or he was elected to the order of the coiffed. In one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. He received an honorary degree of Dr of Laws from Washington and Lee University . Mr Butler served in the Virginia House of Delegates from one nine hundred sixty two until one nine hundred seventy two. Where he was minority leader. He practiced law in Roanoke from one nine hundred fifty until his election to Congress in one nine hundred seventy two. He served five full terms in the House of Representatives . Representing the sixth District of Virginia . It was my privilege to serve as Congressman Butler's district director from one nine hundred seventy seven until one nine hundred seventy nine. While in Congress Mr Butler was a member of the House Judiciary Committee . And the Government Operations Committee . Mr Butler started in Congress was memorable . As a member of the House Judiciary Committee . He served with distinction . As part of the panel that conducted the impeachment hearings involving President Richard Nixon . Following his service to our nation Mr Butler returned home to Roanoke. To practice law as a partner in the firm of woods Rogers and Hazelgrove. Which he continued to do until his retirement in one nine hundred ninety eight. In addition. He contributed his expertise on a national level. By serving as a member of the national bankruptcy Review Commission. From one thousand nine hundred five until one thousand nine hundred seven. Mr Butler is a pillar . T. need to do until his retirement in one thousand nine hundred eight. In addition . He contributed his expertise on a national level . By serving as a member of the national bankruptcy Review Commission. From one thousand nine hundred five until one thousand nine hundred seven. Mr Butler is a pillar of the civic community as well serving as a member of the board of directors of the John Marshall foundation . And the Board of Trustees of the Virginia Historical Society. A fellow of the American Bar Foundation . A fellow of the American College of bankruptcy . And a fellow of the Virginia law foundation. Mr Butler has shown great leadership. And personal integrity . In his service as a member of the Virginia General Assembly. And as a United States congressman. Is with great pleasure. That I honor a true public servant. By introducing legislation that will make Roanoke Virginia home . To the M. Caldwell Butler. Post Office Building. Thank you Mr Speaker . The

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Speaker . The gentleman from Illinois Mr Rushton recognized for five…

    Speaker . The gentleman from Illinois Mr Rushton recognized for five minutes . Out of the speaker's announce policy of January third two thousand and one the gentleman from Washington Mr Smith is recognized for sixty minutes . As a designate of the minority leader.

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    MR. SMITH

    Thank you Mr Speaker I rise tonight to talk about. What is fast becoming…

    Thank you Mr Speaker I rise tonight to talk about. What is fast becoming one of the largest problems our country faces and that is the energy crisis . And is not just a California problem it is spread certainly to the northwest . And why I am from but also throughout the country as we see prices for all sorts of energy consumption from gas at the pump to electricity in the home. Go up considerably. I think it's very good. That the president has focused. Large number of resources . On deciding what to do about this problem. As a task force together the vice president is taking a leadership role on that . I think this is a problem that we need to focus on. I'm not as excited about the initial reports from the vice president the president about the direction they need to go in. But I feel and. So does the new Democratic coalition which I rise one part to represent that it's a good first step. And we can get there on the policy vote but where should we go. The vice president's approach and some of the National remarks were . First of all that we're going to need to build a power plant. A week for the next twenty years . And that conservation while a personal virtue. Is not an energy policy . So the vision that's laid out from those initial statements. Is that we're going to be building a lot of power plants and power plants that are focused on existing fuel sources. Fossil fuel oil natural gas coal. And we're simply going to try to burn and drill our way out of the problem now. Is this a good solution to our energy crisis . I would argue and. My fellow New Democrats also argue that this is not the best solution . There are a lot of damaging side effects to taking that approach . And what's more there is a better option . A better approach. To build a power plant. Every week for the next twenty years. Is going to be an incredibly costly . Endeavor . Costly in terms of money. And costly in terms of the impact that it has on our environment . When you're drilling for oil all over the place. You have a tendency to damage the environment have an impact. When. You burn that oil when you burn those fossil fuels. You have a very damaging impact on the quality of our air and on the overall quality of our environment . This is not the best direction to go and . One final reason why I don't think it's the best direction to go and is there's been a constant focus on our dependency on foreign sources for energy in fact ironically that's one of the arguments that the administration gives for for drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Reserve . And the Gulf of Mexico in a variety of different places for oil domestically. To reduce our dependency on foreign oil drilling for more oil. Is not going to reduce our dependency on foreign energy sources. As long as we have a fossil fuel based system. As long as we are dependent on oil. We are going to be dependent on foreign sources . For that oil. Because you could drill. The entire country. And you wouldn't come up with as much oil as they have in the Middle East and Russia. In a variety of other places that we are dependent on. The only way to reduce our foreign dependency for energy. Is to come up with new sources of that energy . And that is what we in the New Democrats are talking about doing now. Let me be clear. We need more generation. And some of that generation will have to be. Traditional natural gas coal burning fossil fuel generating plants we understand that . We can't simply tomorrow. Shift to new sources of energy and get off of this . But we'd like to be able to do so as soon as possible for all of the reasons that I stated. And what are the possibilities here is that simply a matter of generating a megawatt here a megawatt there . It's much better than that . The possibilities of what we can accomplish in terms of shifting our focus and energy dependence. Away from fossil fuels . Towards greater conservation and new technologies is far greater than I feel most people realize . Even before we get in to the new sources of energy. Discussion. Even focusing on conservation . The thing the vice president said was a personal virtue but not an energy policy . If we were to improve. In a home. And businesses. The way we consume energy electricity natural gas right A different things. Improve conservation. We could say. An unbelievable amount of energy a recent survey in conservation . Just cited a couple of things that we could do . Tuning up residential air conditioning. Tuning up commercial buildings . More efficient air conditioning systems in those commercial buildings. And more efficient commercial lighting . All of those things combined . Could save sufficient megawatts to save us. Well over a hundred of those new power plants . That the vice president has proposed that we needed. If we could then move on to new technologies. Solar wind. Fuel Cell Technology . Biomass a variety of different programs that are out there . We could save even more by a very conservative estimate we could cut in half the number of new power plants that we need . Maybe more . If we went out and spent the money and experimented and found out what we could do. This is a much better more balanced approach it's better for the environment. It's better for domestic security so that we're not dependent on those forest. Foreign sources of energy. And it will build us a long term and sustainable energy policy instead of thinking that we can simply drill our way out of it. By depending on fossil fuels . We need this balanced approach . And what I sincerely hope the president vice president do is engage Congress. To work on this to balance out this approach and come up with a sustainable long term policy that a lot of people say on a number of these subjects that I've talked about whether it's wind solar a fuel cell . Increase conservation. Now. It is just not cost effective . That doesn't work in other words it's too expensive right now to generate . Wind power and you don't really get that much. Conservation won't really save you that much because you've got to spend a lot of money to get there. You know we don't have the technology to accomplish this and I'd like to draw an analogy to another topic that we have been debating here recently in Congress . And that is the national missile defense system. The president has also recently come. Said we need to build a national missile defense system basically a system where we could protect at least some portion of the United States. Actually I think it's all of the United States. By being able to shoot down . One or two rogue I.C.B.M.'s if they for. They're fired at the U.S. you will not find a scientist in this country right now . Who says that. Currently that can work. At this moment . You will find some will say it will never work you'll find some others who think that we can work our way out of it. But the bottom line is the president is saying whatever you think about this policy. That it is so important to this country . That we be able to protect ourselves from a rogue missile or. I.C.B.M. coming from a rogue nation . That we should spend the money and. Find out figure out. He's willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars. To come up with the solution. And like I said I'm not speaking against that policy he may well be right. That maybe such an important policy to do that but transfer that to energy. Why not spend at least a fraction of that. Developing some of these new technologies if we can figure out in the president's estimation . How to hit a bullet with a bullet with a national missile defense . system By spending enough money. Why can't we figure out how to conserve energy better. And develop new sources of energy so that we're not reliant on the fossil fuel system we have right now. The answer is that we can . We can develop those technologies we mean our dependence on fossil fuels . And better use conservation so that we have a cleaner. Future in addition to one that generates the energy that we need. We need to take this balanced approach. It's not enough to simply say. You know coal natural gas oil . That's all we've got that's all that works. Let's move on and not. Not change. Not look at conservation not look at alternatives . We need to strike that balanced approach . And I have some folks here who are going to space in the debate as well. Jim Matheson from the state of Utah.

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  • 08:09:15 PM

    MR. MATHESON

    of Utah. Well thank you the energy . You is clearly an issue that is on…

    of Utah. Well thank you the energy . You is clearly an issue that is on everyone's mind right now . I just this past week. Invited a number. Cross-section of individuals to attend a meeting where we would discuss . What is the appropriate role for the federal government . With respect to energy policy and I had people who represented. Investor owned utilities I had municipal utilities. At the meeting . Rural Lector cooperative the participants we had large industrial consumers . We had low income. Energy advocates. We had people from the state regulatory commission in Utah as well. And I can tell you that. If you need any other indication that this is a significant issue . Everyone we who we invited came to this meeting. And it was a fascinating discussion . And what we talked about was the notion of a balanced approach . A balanced approach . That incorporates a number of different solutions to what is an energy problem. Now the middle of this meeting tended focus to more on the electrical side of the equation . Then and then oil in the gasoline side so my comments are going to focus more on that as well . But I would suggest that as we look at this energy issue we really need to sequence. Time periods in which we're talking about what can we do. What can we do . To put ourselves in a better position . And in the short term . Our options. Are rather limited . Clearly we have a supply and demand imbalance. And in the short term. You're not going to be building any new power plants very quickly. And in the short term . The best available option we have right now is to increase energy efficiency . And I want to make sure that people understand as I say . Energy efficiency. That's a notion where . It's not like you have to give up something. It's not like you have to turn the thermostat down to sixty degrees and put on five different sweaters. Efficiency means. We can have the same comfort level . But we're using less energy to get there . And the technologies are there and quite frankly . In the short term which I would describe for the next two years . In the western United States. Efficient energy efficiency gains. Are one of the best tools we've got to try to mitigate a very difficult circumstance that we are in in terms that supply and demand dynamic. Now let's talk about the mid term which is the two to . Let's say thirty year time frame. Energy efficiency is still going to be part of the equation . But there are more factors that can be out of the equation this is where we can pursue new sources of supply . We're going to have to create additional sources of electric supply . We should probably take a balanced approach that incorporates a number of technologies. That's going to be part of the equation. And if we look at the twenty five thirty years and beyond. That's why I call the real long term perspective . We need to make a concerted effort. A concerted effort . On research and development for technology . To provide some solutions. Solutions in terms of creating energy more efficiently. Solutions in terms of using energy more efficiently. And solutions in terms of creating energy from new sources that are not a significant part of our energy supply today. And that's why as a member of the House Science Committee on very concerned about . Deal we budget numbers proposed by the administration that show cuts in research and development spending. For energy efficiency programs and. For energy supply research and development as well. I'm very concerned about that because I think in the long term. It's good public policy for us to encourage development. Of good research and technology in this regard. And I mentioned I had this energy forum. And I mentioned all these people who came and attended this forum and the fact is we talked about a whole bunch of policy areas where the federal government should or should not have a role and. I just want to focus on one of those issues that we discussed as a group. That I thought was very interesting and something that. Members of Congress should keep in mind and that is the sense that we've gotten into the situation we are now. Partly due to the fact that we have just had a lack of a predictable. Public. Policy . I used to work in the energy business . I developed. Cogeneration facilities in the independent power business . And I can tell you that. By the time we got to about one thousand nine hundred ninety. It became very difficult to make rational decisions about investing in new power plants . Because there was so much uncertainty about what the market was going to be . Congress is moving towards passage of something called the Energy Policy Act which deregulated. The wholesale side. Of our electric industry. But they said you know what it's up to the states to figure out what to do on the retail side so right then. We had a bit of a dysfunctional market where wholesale prices were deregulated and working in one marketplace. And retail working in a different situation . We've had. And this is a complicated issue so admittedly it's hard to implement policy quickly but we've had a series of actions over the years since the Energy Policy Act was passed . For a quarter eighty eight eighty nine. For quarter two thousand. We're still trying to resolve what to do with our electric transmission system in terms of regional transmission organizations . We need to resolve those issues because. Decisions about investing in infrastructure investing in new supply . Are difficult to make. In the face of uncertainty . So I would suggest that. As a rule. We should try to develop unified . Predictable . Policies The same applies in terms of dealing with. Regulatory rules for environmental permits. You know everyone in this meeting that I took had in Salt Lake City last week. Indicated that they're concerned about following the rules they want to follow the rules no one suggested . Rolling back environmental regulations . But they all expressed a desire. That we know what the rules are and that there's a process to work through an appropriate . Permitting activity . And we've got to make . sure Again. That we create that unified. Predictable policy environment where people can make rational decisions . And that's an important goal for us as members of Congress. I think that's. Import. Part of developing the balanced energy policy that . My colleague from Washington has been discussing. I thank you for the use of this time and I yield back to Mr Smith.

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  • 08:15:24 PM

    MR. SMITH

    for the use of this time and I yield back to Mr Smith. Thank you not…

    for the use of this time and I yield back to Mr Smith. Thank you not follow up on a couple of points that you made. First of all on the investments in alternative energy and conservation programs that the cut in the president's proposed budget is thirty six percent from what was already a fairly meager amount. It was three hundred seventy three million dollars last year it goes down to two hundred thirty seven in the president's budget . And on something to so important we can certainly make a better investment. And move hopefully. Forward towards finding some of this new technologies and finding that balance approach. And the second thing is I think it is critical to point out that this is it's not one sided. Problem either . On the conservation new technology side. We do have a problem in locating plants. We did a bad job of the course of the last ten years in preparing for what somebody should have seen coming. Which was the offset of supply and demand that we currently are experiencing. And part of that problem is not is what you said not knowing what the rules are . It's not a matter of we want to be yet be able to build whatever. Power Plant we want wherever. Just want to know what the rules are so that people can make an intelligent investment decision to build the plant where we want them to build it in the manner in which we want them to build it. And there are a variety of different things we can do in that side of the technology to I mean the way we have the system set up now . It cost more money to bring new plants online in terms of the . Sort of the pollution credits that you have to buy basically buying the right to pollute. But at the same time you're generating energy that's the why we. The way we do it . But the newer plants are more efficient and more environmentally sensitive . The older plants that aren't don't have to buy those credits. Or at least they don't have to buy as much and pay as much . So there's a whole lot of things we can look at both on the generation of. Typical fossil fuels. And conservation and new technology is a balanced approach that we really need to take to make this work. This time I'd like to call on Congressman Bob Etheridge. From North Carolina is going to give us some further perspective on the issue.

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  • 08:17:20 PM

    MR. ETHERIDGE

    perspective on the issue. I thank my friend for yielding. And appreciate…

    perspective on the issue. I thank my friend for yielding. And appreciate the input and you have this special order to not talk about an issue that I experience for. It's going to have such a significant impact . In this country on so many years of our economy and I don't think we even realize today what a tremendous impact . If we continue as we talk about problems in California as if they're isolated you touched on earlier . The issue of providing for. Encouraging people to save energy. Is critically important . One of the pieces as we're seeing tremendous . Escalation in cost . Because we're going to see a tremendous wealth transfer in this country. As relates to those who have very low who are trying to make it. To those who have a considerable amount . I'm going to talk a little bit . For a few minutes about every increasing cost of energy . Because certainly need a long term policy. Certainly we need to do all those things. But you know. Energy is a lot like eating . You know I was talking about you talk about in the long run but the short run we stay cool. We get in our cars . We need energy in the short term. Travel through my district now over the last several months. I continue to hear complaints from Christie to his Their about how energy prices are rising . And there's no end in sight . And even when they go up. And they come down they don't come back down anywhere near the last level was hoping people are comfortable knowing they're going up again. And as I talk to my distributors and my retailers. It's not us . You know. So I ask for years I hear from the farmers in the district. I've heard from them talk about the high price of propane. And natural gas prices are are driving up the costs associated with farming . And that's not just true in North Carolina is true all over this country . Many people here might not be. Aware of how farmers use propane. Certainly in North Carolina. They used to dry out their crops whether it be peanuts or. Tobacco. Corn or whatever it may be. But it's also used to run irrigation systems. It's used for heating purposes because in a rule they are used propane. Is the gas of choice. But I don't have pipelines. The farmers in North Carolina use it to . He took barns in the summer. To cure a product of products . And they use it when they have animals for a pig sure. Chickens or turkeys or whatever they may be. Is a part of their production process . As well as here again on an irrigation system. And they also use it in the home. Process. Virtually double when they spiked up this one. And they haven't come back to the level they were last year. The natural gas price raws . Also has an impact on fertilizers. That are used in the farming . We won't see that too next year. Mr Speaker a natural gas is used as a feedstock for Monia which is used one hundred from only goes on the corn in the Midwest and all the products. Grown. In this country. And we're going to see it at the grocery store . And at the prices don't rise for the farmers are going broke. Many of the may not know the natural gas accounts for about ninety percent of the cost to produce and for a large. That's a substantial amount of the cost . With a doubling of the price of natural gas from last year. Farmers are facing . Prices of one hundred . Doubling this year. . Double That's when we have a significant price. On the cost of the product. They're already having a difficult time making a living . And these additional costs associated with other community cost. For their diesel fuel for the gasoline. And other things they use on the farm and the low commodity prices are going to drop more farmers. Out of business. Than. Recent energy price . Is also imposing a real economic hardship on thousands of urban systems in my state. He specially seniors on fixed income. They need that. Energy in the short run . And this cost is driving it up. Families own limited and fixed income. Face enough challenges with out these unexpected increases that are so she added with the necessities that I need. Let me just share two examples . That were in the paper recently. Because of the holocaust of natural gas Gloria Williams a single mother. In southeast Raleigh. Who goes to school during the day to improve her lot in life . And works out I Target store needing to assist. Sustain and support her family . Did not even turn only gas last when you're in her home. She couldn't afford it . So she used any other alternative fuel she could get. Just to keep it home warm and get through it when another person in Dawn of the name of Fred Joyner retard log. Who has a disability payment. He said his bill was usually seventy five dollars a month. And it doubled. And he said. And I quote . It digs deep in that bill . But you gotta stay warm. And so you've got to. It's like E.D.. You got to pay the bill. He said I'd do without . Other things. No family in America . Should be required to do this . So that just a very few could put more on the bottom line . And gasoline prices are typically creeping up Mr Speaker . And some are jump in my district doesn't enjoy much of the benefits of an extensive and expansive public. Transportation system. The only public system we have of any stand is the want it transports our children to and from school . And you need to understand that those prices are going up at a rapid rate. And that's going to affect the public tale for those who are paying for it. And the state is facing a hundred fifteen million dollars shortfall in their budget and my constituents to a car people. That's how they get back and forth to work. The interstate. Just got a chill the line. About a year ago. When gas goes up . They feel it in their pocketbooks . And their daily commutes to and from work or trips to the beach or the mountains. When they used to make them and they'll be cut back . And there's no inside according to a recent report issued by the Department of Energy Information Administration . That you have forecast the prices to continue to increase . Last year natural gas. Wellhead prices average three dollars or sixty two cents per thousand cubic feet. For this year he predicts the average will have price will be almost fifty percent above that. There's a reason for that . It is hard to believe that the wellhead prices . Have escalated . At this level. The process of proclaiming is heavily Todd. To natural gas . Because propane is a natural byproduct of natural gas propane ears and . When propane prices rise . And Spike like they did last winter. They do not come back down to their previous levels we've already saying that. As he is predicting. Natural gas prices. It is also predicted. Foreseeable how our propane process. Extending out. For the next twenty months. I like to know why . It's keeping. Increasing and we haven't heard anyone talk about how we get it down . Last year there was a lot of grumbling over gas prices . That would have been not high enough. To dissuade Americans. From taking vacation. That may happen this year . When the Energy Department testified last Wednesday. They said that . Forecasts that the average retail price for gasoline over the summer would range from a dollar and a half. To a dollar and sixty five cents a gallon . That compares with a dollar and fifty three cents last year at the highest . level Yesterday. I'll read in The Washington Post. That the range had already expanded to a dollar seventy five. And that's five percent above last year's record highs prices. And I've even heard a prediction for some of the. Energy analysts that the price. In this country might even reach three dollars. I raise. Raise the question . How do you know it's going to be three dollars. Folks were quite patient. Last summer. But I don't know if Americans are willing to put up with gas prices . As they continue to get higher. And it gas prices run up to three dollars. Their American people to know why it happened. So far they haven't lied just like Spa nations that they've been here . The price increases. Are simply an example of the market at work . And I asked the question. What market. Is the market working when the Federal Trade Commission. Approves of a merger between two of the largest oil companies. As a spectator in June between Texaco and Chevron. Will consumers think that . Removing one more competitive front appeal will help lower gas prices . I don't think so. I've been brought up to believe that competition is good that it helps keep prices down. And I believe more people would agree with me. If they think it through. When you cut the number of companies fighting over customers . How will that price. Go down. The American people are going to want answers to these questions . You know. Feel we have reached a crisis proportion concerning energy . But it may be coming. Now I know some people don't want to characterize our energy predicament. As a crisis . That words get people word . It can upset the stock market and I understand that. But I do believe the situation is or it's worth it and as a result . Demands an urgent. And proper response from the Bush administration. I think the American people deserve the same level of energy . The same sense of urgency . From President Bush . That Governor Bush . Demonstrated told producers. When they were hurting. By the drop in oil prices . In one thousand . Not in an urge to ministration to demonstrate its understanding of their urges to do this to the two Asian. And by developing an energy policy . That doesn't tell Americans. They have to wait a few years before any relief . Will be found to our energy process . I thank you for this opportunity to participate in this special order this evening. Because this is an issue this important not only to Marcus To to us in North Carolina . But

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  • 08:28:44 PM

    MR. SMITH

    . But as you've indicated to all Americans. Now you know why. Thank you…

    . But as you've indicated to all Americans. Now you know why. Thank you very much. Just call on Kyra's been wrecked Larson. From my home state of Washington and. It's Washingtonians we know that this isn't just a California problem. And certainly not even just a West Coast problem.

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  • 08:29:01 PM

    MR. LARSEN

    West Coast problem. Carson Larson . Thank you Mr Smith at this time and…

    West Coast problem. Carson Larson . Thank you Mr Smith at this time and thank you Mr Speaker and members of Congress I'm going to talk a little bit about the energy crisis in the. West How it's affecting families and businesses in my own home district. Second District of Washington state. And what I and other Democrats are doing to try to provide a balanced. Comprehensive long term solution. In many ways we're facing the perfect storm of energy the energy crisis in Washington State as a result of a number of factors happening seemingly impossibly at the same time . A failed the regulation planning California . And efficient supply of energy. Congested transmission pathways in action. By the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to ensure just and reasonable rates . In the Pacific Northwest. And ironically. For the Pacific Northwest . A lack of rain . Many people refer to this crisis as just a California crisis but clearly this is not been the case . In my district . That is awash in state. Energy crisis an organ crisis. I had a whole Montana. Definitely the northwest and soon to be a national crisis . And the impact of this crisis is being felt all across. My district. Through decreased economic growth. Job loss and. Unbelievably high energy bills. For working families . And senior . citizens Across my district consumers and businesses are currently experiencing utility price increases. Of thirty five percent . And as the summer and fall arrive. We'll see those rates jump and . At the state level. Increased energy costs. Threaten over one hundred thousand jobs statewide . And over a quarter million jobs. Region wide . Clearly this crisis is. As a media . Intense and far reaching. High energy costs will decimate industry. And working families in my district. In March of this year Georgia Pacific. A pulp mill that have been appoint hundreds of workers in Bellingham Washington since one thousand nine hundred six shut its bolt factory . For good. Due to high energy prices costing four hundred working wage . Families and Bellingham Washington their jobs. Now only has the city. Lost revenue and workers lost jobs but local restaurants . Have lost business the port. Has Lost shipping revenue and suppliers who supplied materials to G.P. for years have lost their top customer costing thousands of dollars in lost revenue as the plant closure alone will cost the city of Bellingham two hundred thirty five thousand dollars a month in tax revenues and costs the economy and walking County. At least one hundred million dollars a year . And recently in Tellico an aluminum company announced that if energy costs aren't reasonable by October. They too will have to close their plant. And that's another nine hundred thirty jobs. Threatened . In my district . And I have with me just a box of the thousand. About a thousand letters. I have received from employees. Family members relatives and friends of those employees at Intel . Clearly this energy crisis . Is having a huge impact. One constituent wrote an employee at Alcoa works in Ferndale. And as it looks right now. As it looks like right now my job will vaporize. Due to the forces beyond mine or my company's control. Namely the exorbitant price of power that our plant must have to survive . It is a situation that may require me and my family . Moving from Washington. Permanently . We don't want to do this. But we have to make a living to. Please come to our aid . Another woman from Ferndale. My husband has worked at and telco all Kohen Ferndale Washington for twenty two years . We have three daughters. One will be in college for two years the two others to follow. Don't let one year of drought. Destroyed. Destroy the aluminum industry. Give them time to come up with solutions . Another one in Bellingham pleaded . I would like to know what I can tell my ten year old when she asked me what we're going to do when in Tellico shut down. I worked there for five years now. And it's been a good job for my family . But with the shutdown of this plant. I'll be out of work . And with G.P. also shut down there are two less places . That will pay a wage you can raise a family on and. One person wrote. My husband Brant. Works for in Tellico. He's scared that he will lose his job. To the energy crisis . We're having to give our power. As well as conserve just to lose our jobs and turn our community into a ghost town. The situation is real. As you well know and our children see the concern we have for our community . And the people around us. Time is running out. Small businesses are suffering as well. One business owner wrote islet have lived in walking County. All of my life. I have owned a home and business for over twenty years. And about one third of all my customers are in the aluminum or steel industries. Losing any or all of them will have a dramatic impact on my business. Ravaging a prosperous and important to me like ours. Is a terrible and destructive solution. For the short term goal of meeting energy demand . Our nation is badly in need of a national energy policy that. That is comprehensive. That is visionary that answers the call that we are hearing from people in my district and people all over this country a crisis I have a comment on tonight in the West threatens to spread throughout this country . And this summer will bring our utility bills and gasoline prices for far too many of Americans . How much of what has been offered so far by the administration is unfortunately. Short on vision and offers no truly. Long term solutions to the energy problem . The vice president recently noted conservation is simply a virtue in the only real solution is to continue with fossil fuels and suing them and. Unprecedented pace . And fact are you to continue to argue in order to keep up with demand . We need to build a power plant a week for the next twenty years . I would say that only an approach that includes both short and long term solutions . Will truly ensure the energy independence. Our nation. Is calling for and must have . And many of my do. New Democratic colleagues and I believe. We do not have to choose between growing our economy and protecting. Arm and Vironment . We can do both. In fact a growing economy is dependent upon a clean reliable energy source for generations to come. Congressman Smith. And others. Have been talking about a new Democrat approach. To our national energy policy . And our approach will expand and diversify our energy supply providing a balanced vision . That is more than simply find and consume fossil fuels. And I recognize a comprehensive energy policy Rick. Choir's. It requires a combination of traditional fossil fuels. Natural gas . But it also requires expanding wind and solar power viability. That will not only make for a cleaner energy supply but also. Stabilize prices . And ensure reliability . In the short term we can harness the power of technology and modernize the regulations to make existing. Fossil fuel sources of power cleaner and more efficient requires an appropriate incentive for the installation of. Co-generation other technologies and drive to ensure we continue to utilize these new technologies in years to come. And as we seek to expand and diversify our energy supply we must upgrade our transmission system to ensure that the creation of new forms of energy . Can be transferred . Efficient way. You must encourage private and public. Efforts to greatly increase the investment in building and improving existing transmission lines and pipelines. While ensuring that an expansion of infrastructure is both safe and efficient . Conservation and efficiency programs will ensure. There are a limited supply of fossil fuels last longer. It makes little sense to embrace an energy plan based almost exclusively on a finite resource without. Also aggressively. Encouraging. The conservation of those resources . And I believe conservation should not just be a personal virtue . It must be . Our national priority. Empowering consumers to make energy wise decisions. Has to be a key component to a full of. Fully functioning . Energy market . As we seek to develop new forms of environmentally responsible forms of new generation. Wiggin we must improve the efficiency of these new forms of generation. And I believe this includes public private sector partnerships . To improve. Extraction methods and encourage cleaner more efficient generation. This approach must also include an aggressive focus to increase the supply of renewable energy . As a component of our national energy portfolio . We must have a substantial increase in funding for research and development into these programs . Which will incur. Energy efficiency and renewable energy sources such as wind solar biomass . Incremental. Hydro power. And geothermal. We must also work. To provide realistic market incentives to develop and use . Renewable energy at the residential commercial . And at the national level. We must push for high efficiency standards whether it's for vehicles buildings homes or appliances . Improving efficiency will require mechanisms. To encourage federal state and local governments to use and purchase. Alternative fuel vehicles and make all government buildings . Energy efficient. We must also provide market incentives. Low interest loans and grants to make capital improvements. To increase energy efficiency and encourage the manufacture and purchase of fuel efficient vehicles . And we must. To be specific on one point we must reauthorize and strengthen the renewable energy production incentive program. As soon as possible. Which will help bring an incentive to renewable energy in this country. Finally we must ensure that no group is left behind by the current crisis including seniors and low income. I commend the administration. For their budget increases and why he. And state whether zation funding. Which are key components for empowering local efforts to deal with the effects of this crisis adequately. However programs within. Other federal agencies . By public housing operating fine with Housing and Urban Development must be increased. To help our local housing authorities. To keep rents down for low income families. In closing. I believe very simply the New Democrats understand that a comprehensive energy plan for the future . Is critical to our nation's long term prosperity. The livelihood of families in my district and Washington state and across the country. Depend upon it. And I want to thank Congressman Smith. For the opportunity to speak on this tonight.

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  • 08:39:25 PM

    MR. SMITH

    this tonight. And yield back time. Thank you thank you very much and we…

    this tonight. And yield back time. Thank you thank you very much and we also have a Midwestern perspective. Congressman Ron. And . From Wisconsin as has been mentioned frequently but I don't think can be mentioned often enough. This is a national problem that we need to step up to. What will have a profound effect on our economy if we don't figure out some way. To provide affordable energy sources. To our nation for a long time to come.

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  • 08:39:54 PM

    MR. KIND

    Which will be a big challenge. Congressman kind of take my friend from…

    Which will be a big challenge. Congressman kind of take my friend from Washington state for a yearling me this time and also for organizing this special order tonight I want to commend you and also our colleague from Washington State Mr Larsen for the initiative and the leadership that you've taken within the new Democratic coalition. Of forming a comprehensive long term energy task force which is that work in progress. But nevertheless . A long overdue as far as this institution is concerned and obviously the American people but. In a lot of ways. Really isn't a new conversation that is being started amongst many of us but rather a continuation of a conversation we've been having for quite some time but quite frankly haven't received any attention or any. Work on because of the. Plentiful cheap energy sources that the country . Has been enjoying for many many years in fact I think in a lot of ways former President Jimmy Carter was before his time. I mean he was criticized and even laughed at at times when he was walking around the White House with a sweater on preaching the values of energy conservation . Of course that happened during the OPEC crisis but as soon as the crisis abated an oil became cheap again and OPEC started opening up their supply lines then when you talk about conservation or energy efficiency . Went out the window. And we haven't had much progress then ministration. After administration. I think that the previous administration the Clinton ministration deserves a lot more credit than they've received . In regards to the energy budget that they submitted . Time and time again on Capitol Hill . But again it was received with laughter . Saying that it was too green . Unnecessary and drastic proposals . When actually. They are asking to do is trying to funding create some incentives to explore alternative and renewable energy sources in the country realizing that that has got to be a part of any long term energy policy . But I think we all realize that nothing. Significant was going to be accomplished. On this front . Until . Alternately the American people feel the pain . And we've seen that now and in the recent year. We have the crisis on the West Coast. Whether it's California on the rolling blackouts but even the Pacific Northwest that you two gentlemen are confronting. With the low water and the reduced hydro electric supply . That the northwest. Relies upon for their for their energy needs. But this is true from state to state. And if truth be known even a state like Wisconsin a state that I represent. Is on the margin as far as delivering the energy capacity and the need that. At the people back home required. And we could be a whisker away from having our own energy crisis because the transmission problems and. And some of the infrastructure problems that have developed in the state of Wisconsin . I'm glad that Representative Larson. Brought a few of the letters from constituents and how they're feeling the pain because I think all of us right now in our respective offices are getting a lot of phone calls and a lot of letters . Back home I can point to many . Family farmers that are on the margin already because a lot commodity and milk prices . They're getting pinched in many of them forced out of business because of the spike and . In energy costs right now. But this is true for small business owners. We're seeing the impact on school budgets in the energy needs that our schools have. It's true for families on fixed incomes large and small businesses alike . This has a universal effect throughout the country. It's not just a regional problem. But it's one that's going to require a national solution. That's going to require. Bipartisan cooperation . And some creative thinking. In this body and throughout the country . To come up with a long term a sustainable and comprehensive energy policy . Or all of us are anxious to see what the Bush and Cheney administration goes with the report next week. I think some of the preliminary indications are a little disheartening . The fact that the. Are concentrating . So much in focus so much on the exploration and production of more fossil fuels. I don't think . Having greater dependence and reliance on fossil fuels is a sustainable or a sensible long term energy policy. A fossil fuels are in finite supply to begin with but B There's a plethora of scientific evidence now in the scientific community has rallied around the evidence that exists. Point to global warming and the greenhouse effect. That's which has been spurred by the increased consumption in the burning of fossil fuels. So naturally . You wouldn't think that any long term energy policy would require an increased reliance on fossil fuel consumption . And I hope that's not the report that they produce. Next week. But I was also disheartened in. Vice President Cheney's. Discussion and Representative Larson touched upon it tonight about the role of conservation . In this country he doesn't think it should be a part of a long term solution . That was a little bit surprising to me. Given the fact that corporate America has been investing hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade their energy tools and machines that they're that they're using. Trying to invest in the latest technology whether it's. Heat exchangers or cooling equipment . But it's things that are reducing their energy costs but also increasing worker productivity so. I think the vice president should talk to corporate America about the role of conservation because they obviously see the need. And they're taking an affirmative action already . But that but the work product that we've been involved with so far I think is long sighted. And it is reasonable . Talking about the benefits of increased energy efficiency. A new generation of energy resources that will look at the possibility in the potential of renewable and alternative energy sources . Also talking about the need to upgrade our energy infrastructure . In this country so it is efficient. So it is cleaner . And it is safer in whatever region that we're talking. That we're talking about the role of conservation. I think many people just intuitively. We understand . And get otherwise why do we have so many Americans. Participating in recycling programs for instance. But also the need for greater . Agency and. Industry collaboration and coordination and cooperation . Because again . These answers are not just going to be found in the public sector by elected representatives. But it's going to require eight. In trickle public and private partnerships in order to pull this off. I mean United States of America is roughly four percent of the. The world's population but we are consuming over twenty five percent of the fossil fuels that are produced in the country. That is not going to be a sustainable energy policy. We're increasing our energy consumption twenty percent. Every five years . In this country and if we don't have a long two arms solution with multiple pieces to find the right answers . That obviously isn't going to be a sustainable energy policy. I'm ranking member on the Energy Subcommittee on the resources can mean we've been holding hearings in regards to . Energy policy and. And fossil fuels and the role of fossil fuels in the last week we had a very good . Hearing on the potential of. Geothermal power . In this country. Tremendous potential especially on the West Coast. In Nevada in California California already. Consuming roughly ten percent of their energy from geothermal power. But there are. Geothermal opportunities throughout the entire country. Other countries are taking a lot of action . A lot of. Proactive steps in this . Even a country as small as impoverished as Kenya for instance. Is making a major infrastructure investment in geothermal power. For their long term energy needs. And it's projected right now that. In Kenya. Over twenty five percent of their energy will come from geothermal sources within the next fifteen years . But this is true whether your track and Central and South America whether you talk about some of the countries in Asia . Except for the United States. And I submit that one of the reasons for that is because we have become complacent or taken for granted the cheap energy sources main. The fossil fuels. That if you persist in that have perpetuated . The current industry. Without enough investment and forward thinking with alternative and renewables. Wind power. To give you another example was a short period of go. Where it was costing anywhere from twenty to thirty cents per kilowatt hour with with. When that was being generated. Today that is down to about two to three cents. A tremendous increase in efficiency and bring it into. Market competition . The same is true for solar and biomass. Opportunities for research and development on fuel cells for instances . Is tremendously exciting . We're starting to prototype automobiles now. Being developed by these companies at the forefront of fuel cell development. It's already powering our space shuttle missions up there is no reason why we can't integrate that. In our energy consumption needs right here at home . Not just automobiles but. Energy saving devices our appliances and our machines that we're using to produce goods . All of this I think needs to be a part of the equation I don't think anyone standing alone . Is ultimately going to be the answer. So needless to say we've got our work cut out for us in this body . The current administration . The private sector and the American people. And by coming together and working together I think we do have the ingenuity . To come up with something that's going to be sustainable. That's going to make sense not only for our current generations need but for future generations . As well. And I'm looking forward to working with you Mr Smith and . Mr Larsen as we move forward now . In the new Democratic coalition trying to put together this comprehensive peace something that is going to make sense from region to region and and is national in scope and . Certainly there's enough interest being generated by our constituents by our by our folks back home that they're looking for some long term. Answers to this . To this energy crisis that they see . And hopefully by working together and again. In a bipartisan fashion . Will be able to come up with with the plan that's going to be needed in the future. Given our current consumption levels but also. Given the incredible potential that exists with with technological technological breakthroughs. Then the research and development that's. That's already ongoing So thank you again for organizing this special order tonight. I'm sure this won't be the last of our conversations on this topic and.

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    MR. SMITH

    conversations on this topic and. I look forward to working with you…

    conversations on this topic and. I look forward to working with you gentlemen thank you very much thank you very much I want to thank my colleagues . For helping out to see evening and doing an excellent job of talking about the problem . And where we need to go in terms of finding solutions and this is a great opportunity I feel for this Congress and for this president . To work together in a bipartisan why. The president a time. As talked a great deal about wanting to change the tone in Washington. Work in a different way . And there is some frustration. Particularly amongst. Moderate Democrats like myself that. That has been more. Rhetorical. At this point. And then actual. But there is still plenty of time. And I'm only a little over one hundred days into this and there are some very important policies that have been yet. Have yet to mend flushed out an energy I think is right at the top of the list. So the president by taking a focus on it. Could really make a huge difference here by being inclusive in bringing people in and I think of there is any issue out there . That should be bipartisan and it is certainly. Energy. It's critical to everything that we do as. Was outlined by my colleagues quite well. And I think the critical element in all of this is understanding. Both the cost of taking the approach that says fossil fuels are the only way to get us out of this. And also the rich. Field of opportunities to go a different route. I mean just think about it . Building a power plant . A week for the next twenty years to burn more fossil fuels . The impact of that cannot be underestimated the sheer cost of doing it. The damage the environment of both the building the plants and also of the consumption of those fossil fuels now that is not to say as I think all of my colleagues have done a great job of saying that this shouldn't be a critical part. We're going to have to build power plants we're going to have to use fossil fuels absolutely no question about it. But we should look at the cost and the difficulties in doing that and understand an alternative is preferable . And then we should look at the alternatives and say you know it's not an impossible dream. There are alternative technologies out there right now . That are working . There are ways to conserve energy in a way that will save us dramatically . And that is with . What has been a relatively meager. If not existent investment in those technologies and conservation techniques . Think of what we could do. If we actually committed ourselves to solving not problem. I think it is. It is worth the investment and worth the time and energy on our part. To do that and come up with the alternatives and build a brighter future that is not as dependent on the constant fossil fuel cycle that we're going through the doesn't put us in a position where we are so dependent upon foreign nations. For the future of our country. And they can build that. Again I think my colleagues and certainly the new Democratic coalition . For taking a leadership role in putting this together and I look forward to working with them as well as everybody else . In Congress and in the administration and throughout this country to come up with a. Energy policy that will sustain us for the future . And with that

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    sustain us for the future . And with that I yield back the balance of my…

    sustain us for the future . And with that I yield back the balance of my time. Thank you. THE GENTLEMAN . Yields back the balance of his time. Out of the speaker's announced policy of January third two thousand and one the gentleman from Utah Mr Hansen is recognized for sixty minutes as the designee of the majority leader.

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    MR. HANSEN

    recognized for sixty minutes as the designee of the majority leader.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    Without objection .

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    MR. HANSEN

    Speaker many years ago . When I was a student at the University of Utah I…

    Speaker many years ago . When I was a student at the University of Utah I recall working at different jobs after class. And nights and weekends . In order to make ends meet new paid my tuition . Money was tired I was newly married I had a wife and child support. But I still remember Senate twenty five dollars the to share a club which a lot of money in those days . In response to their advertisements. Because I felt strongly about protecting our air and our water. And preserving our forests. But I was moved to donate to that particular organization by what they had to. say And during the sixty's and seventy's I believe that our nation. Urgently needed a wake up call to action to stop the dumping of raw sewage and industrial waste into the nation's waterways . And to find ways to try to save endangered species like the bald eagle in the grizzly bear. I saw some of those problems firsthand and I felt really strongly about that . And contrary to what groups are saying I still do. I believe this time out of which the groups like this sheriff played a constructive and valuable part in helping to focus public attention on these problems. And those days I recall the share a club actually funding some restoration projects which for a lot of all they were doing more than just sounding the alarm . They were out on the ground physically doing something construction by themselves. Cleaning up a lake or making a trail . For example in partnership with local or state organizations . Felt good about supporting. Because of been taught that there's not sufficient to just point out faults of problems of others. When we needed to put our money where our mouth is and pitch to pitch in to do something ourselves. Is ironic given what some vocal environmentalist. Groups today have to say about me. That is a member of the a tall legislature and Speaker of the house that I was labeled by some of my colleagues as being too green . Because I often sponsor a. Out of the environmental legislation . What's even more Ronit. Is that my personal philosophy . For protecting the environment has not changed one iota. I still believe in the present bills of conservation and environmental protection . Like Teddy Roosevelt our first conservation president . I believe that man has been given the responsibility to be wise stewards of our natural resources that we can find environmentally responsible ways to obtain the energy and raw materials that we need is a nation. And as families as individuals to sustain life . And that is human beings we need do not apologize for having been born . And that we are indeed part of the Earth's. Ecosystem. Unfortunately that's been the environmental movement which has changed . As to why if an occasion which began as a good idea . And needed catalyst. Has in many respects been corrupted by money. And by power . I have witnessed over the years how environmental groups who change from actually doing constructive work . Into self-interest business organizations whose main goal. Of a marketing the shelf . Picture of perpetuating power and growth and to achieve those ends. By any means . They become masters at slashing and burning the character a reputation of those elected officials. Or reporters who dare to challenge them. Or who dare to take different points of view. On specific environmental issues. I've witnessed over the years how are increasingly strident and nasty Many of them become. In our civil discourse. And how our increasingly radical many of their preferred halls have become . Finally what I've noticed as well is that these groups by and large are now . About big business and that is their bottom line. When looking at the share a club the southern Utah well are still lie it's a Natural Resource Defense Council. The League of Conservation Voters are several other environmental groups. What began as a small bare bones organization with. Issues motivate. Paypal's soon blossomed into a larger and larger organization which must rent offices. Hire workers. And meet their payroll. These are not mom and pop grassroots organizations operating out of some guy's basement. We're talking about their slick well organized employing raps of encounter. Marketeers and attorneys. There's none better. In order to feed that be sure to make the payroll they have to do what other business have to do. That is raise money. How do they do this well they do it very well . They're masters at it. If they were public corporations listed with the stock exchange. They'd be listed by analysts and the by category. They pour massive amounts of tax exempt and tax deductible on my ADD contributions into a motion based media and marketing . They're spending millions on direct marketing campaigns in order to generate more and more contributors and donor lives. They hire impressionable young college students. Normally at a minimum wage . To go to door door to sign up new members in higher still others to attend public areas . To applaud or to boo. As directed in a cynical purchased attempt to influence public opinion . What is truly shocking is amount of money these groups are raising and spending. And they are beginning to hit the big time contributions millions of dollars of the time . And disappointingly from such a previously venerable. Answer G.'s as the Pew Charitable Trust. This is how they can pay for millions of dollars in slick brochures . Calendars videos television radio and magazine advertisements . All designed to shock. And stimulate. Individuals to reach into their pocketbooks. Like any other pitch man hawking their wares. They use sensational pictures and distortion of facts in order to grab attention . As some unscrupulous marketers are prone to do. They take advantage of many hardworking Americans who are too busy earning a living in pain. Taxes and raising their families. They don't have the time to investigate the claims themselves. These groups take advantage of people's natural goodwill and desire to protect green spaces and clean water. By a shorting at their tax deductible ten twenty fifty or hundred dollars donated to them for example will keep those blank blank nasty Republicans or other congresspersons. From raping and pillaging the environment. As it was for me as young college students to be influenced by their solicitation short remains today with many of us. Only there is so much more media influence by those groups than in the sixty's. They have a very loud and very strident voice. When I hear the completely overblown rhetoric they put out about many of my colleagues who are working hard on Asli motivated by wanted to do the right thing by the environment. By finding a balanced approach. It can be very disheartening . Some days it is tempting to ask why do we keep trying . Despite years of trying to reach out to these groups to enter to a constructive dialogue. To come up with legislative solutions to vexing environmental problems. All I received is the hammer to the head. At least to this point they have not shown an interest in doing what Isaiah counseled in the Old Testament. COM let us reason together. I'm still waiting for the phrase to be uttered. Mr Chairman we'd like to work with you on that proposal . I've been here twenty one years and still haven't heard it. Indeed all we get is the fire house approach. Of heated and hostile rhetoric. I still believe that a majority of Americans from presented with all the facts will support the right environmental policies. They will recognize the need to achieve balance between obtaining resources and preservation . The key becomes getting all of facts out on the table. At the present time those of us who are often cast by these groups. As being on the wrong side of their issues. Are outgunned. In terms of money and media. Access. With their vast sums of tax exempt money foreign and they by huge media influence. Which they do not call lobbying but rather . Public education. This is an abuse of our tax laws and a lobbying disclosure statues. These groups have also shown a propensity to try to intimidate members of Congress . Mainly from urban. Eastern District into supporting radical proposal . Affecting many large western states like Utah to home Colorado. These groups advocate locking up huge areas informal. Wilderness designation . Even though most people don't understand what those designation mean or draining like after all most of the members from major states. Have not even been to those areas in the West that the legislation would affect Shaw maybe just a throw away vote for . However. Excuse me however if they don't sign as a co-sponsor. To the radical left. Legislation such as H.R. sixteen thirteen. Locking up nearly ten million acres of Utah lands. These groups will openly attack them and their states and districts by vocally and visibly labeling them . An enemy to the environment. Nothing could be further from the truth . In my opinion it is shameful that tactics such as these are sometimes employed by these groups . Those taxes. To be rewarded by members and I urge members who feel they are threatened politically . To show these mender and women to the door. To be OK if the money was being used mostly to go toward preservation and conservation I would applaud it. However what we're seeing is the abuse of the I.R.S. guidelines by many of these groups who disguise their extensive lobbying activities and very often very partisan . Lobbying activities. Under the guise of public education . If the true of cost lobbying were to be ascertained. I believe that some of these groups should be in jeopardy of losing their. Five hundred one c three tax exempt charitable status. As well they should. If they're violating the law . And that is something Mr Speaker the Congress ought not to be shy about looking into. While some of the hill and out and elsewhere. Shame fixated on campaign finance reform. Aimed at cleaning up received corruption of the American political process . By money . I wonder who is actually watching these self-appointed the self ordained watchdogs and special interest groups who are shall win in money by the truckload . Where is their accountability. Where the news cameras following them as they drive to the bank to make these big deposits . While liberals and extreme environmentalist lambaste their contrived boogie man and big oil and those nasty . Extractive industries I can tell you the big oil such as it exists. Cannot hold a candle stick to the money and influence . These environmental groups. Assert these days and this city of Washington D.C. . How long will they get away with these distortions and character assassinations and challenge an unchecked. Is there abuse of our nation's tax laws a lobbying disclosure requirements not worthy of examination. This abuse is the untold story that too many people are afraid to explore and it's something that Congress ought to look into . This is the purpose for me and my colleagues coming to the floor tonight. To raise awareness of how many of these groups are exploiting the public. For their own selfish reasons. I've often wondered where the national press has been on looking critically upon these groups are they too coward by political correctness or freight of offending their liberal constituencies. Or are they card carrying members of these groups to themselves. How long will the press releases and bald faced ascertain. In Me. Issued hourly by these groups remain unchallenged by the media . While members of Congress are scrutinized up one side and down for every word we honor and every vote we take these groups are somehow coated with Teflon and must be accepted by the media's on rebuttable truth. Must they always be given the last word at least one reporter. Has recently had the nerve and the courage and professionalism to explore and investigate these groups . Their fund raising and their tactics are commanded members the five part series of articles which appeared recently . In the Sacramento Bee. Newspaper by Mr Tom condition. And all these are posted on the resource. Committee website. Mr condition has come under fire in the last few days. By the very. A group she's scrutinized by having published a series . Which I unfortunately is to be expected these days. I'm afraid that the truth must hit a little close to home. Therefore the natural self-preservation response has been to simply attack the reporter personally and professionally. Having been a chairman for a long time of Subcommittee and charmers other committee. I'm always amazed how when you can't be done with the issues and factual go to personal assassination . Or I found Mr Canossa series to be balanced and confirms many of the concerns that I have myself for some time. I wish that more reporters would follow his lead. And look to what is uncovered. Now I'd like to point out on this chart that I have here executive showers. According to the information filed by Mr connotes in a good share of the money raised by these groups goes to pay showers for their top officials. Their easy within the top one percent of all wage earners in the. country For example this chart shows that the executive directors of the nation's top environmental organizations are paid very well. The star of the National Wildlife Federation top executive Mr Martin Van Patten was nearly a quarter of a million dollars last year. This represents a seventeen percent raise over a shower the year before . Think about that the next time you contemplate your three percent cost of living adjustment . If you're among those who sat in a twenty five dollar contribution to this group. You realize it took over ten thousand of you have you contributed in order just to pay his salary. The salary of the World Wildlife Fund representation Catherine Fuller was two hundred forty one thousand dollars. The salary of the National lot of oncet. President John flicker was two hundred forty thousand dollars. The salary of the National Resource Defense Council Director John Adams was two hundred thirty nine thousand dollars . The star of The Wilderness Society Pres was two hundred four thousand dollars. The star Defenders of Wildlife presidency all two hundred one thousand dollars Earth Justice Legal Defense Fund president but Parker was one hundred fifty seven thousand . And this year our club's Karl Popper salary was one hundred thirty eight thousand nine hundred ninety eight and listed as one hundred ninety nine thousand five hundred seventy seven and ninety nine. There is a fifty percent rise . And the list goes on. Now folks think about how many of those twenty five dollar contributions does it take you if you did like I did as young college student . Sent a few bucks there because you believe in what they're doing just to pay these salaries . Were these missionaries Dulux who had a great idea back in the sixty's and thought we were going too far. Were these people that were in there doing the same because it had a burning in their heart to do it. Not because it was a big biz. Innes . Unfortunately . You can see. New environmental ism. As grown into a big growth industry. That I'd like to yield to my friend from ATA hall . The

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    MR. SIMPSON

    . The Honorable Mike Simpson . I think Chairman the committee for yielding…

    . The Honorable Mike Simpson . I think Chairman the committee for yielding the time . And for setting aside this hour to talk a little bit about what's happening in the environmental community and. As the gentleman from Utah . Has suggested I think all of us are environmentalists in fact as he once said that in college he gave his money and dues to the Sierra Club I believe it was. I gave money to the I don't Conservation League because I believed in what they were doing and in fact in many things that they're still doing I think they're doing their job but. Like most environmental groups or groups that call themselves environmental groups they've stepped over the edge they've gone beyond simple environmental issues and trying to save our environment . Before I before I get into that for just a minute I want to talk for just a second about. Another environmental issue that was just talked about previously by the minority party here and their power that they reserved and that was the energy policy which deals with the environment as much as. These issues that we'll be talking about here today. I was glad to hear that the members to jested that we need a bipartisan effort. In energy a solution to the energy problem that we have in this country. They were very . Seem very critical of the Bush administration and some of the stances that he takes . But I will tell you that. When the report comes out and in our conversations with Vice President Cheney. Conservation will be a part of the report. Renewable Sundin and wind power will be a part of the report. New sources of energy discovering all . New sources of oil and coal and natural gas. Will be a part of the report. Nuclear energy. Will be a part of the report new technologies such as fuel cells. Will be a part of the report. They suggest a geothermal power. Geothermal is a power that is used in some areas. But if you look at some of the things that. The Democratic Party has done . Just. Only on T.V. I saw the chairman of the Democratic National Committee on T.V.. Slamming Bush for his energy policy and holding up a picture of. Yellowstone National Park with a with a. Oil. . Well Over it and said This is Bush's policy. And then next was one of the Grand Canyon with an oil. Drag. Over the top of it . Saying this is what Bush wanted. Drilling in our national parks Nobody has suggested drilling in the Yellowstone . Nobody has suggested . Drilling in any of our national parks. They have said that we ought to look in some our national in our national monuments which we do drilling in now. And look at the reserves that we have there. Such as the Anwar and other places. And then the D.N.C. put on a commercial which suggested. Young lady holding up a glass of water and saying mommy could I have more arsenic in my water . And then it was a child with a hamburger saying Can I have more saw Monella in my hamburger . It seems to me that the D.N.C. has taken on the same characteristic that . The extreme environmental movement has taking on where . Raising money has been. Become more important than the truth. They will say anything to try to discredit this president. And the policies that he sets forward. That's exactly what the extreme Veyron mental movement has done. They have stolen. The true grassroots environmental movement . This article these series of articles that were written in the Sacramento Bee Bee . Newspaper. And I would commend them to anyone who wants to look at how these groups are funded. And some of the things that they are doing and . I would like to go through some of the provisions of these articles and some of the things that they're doing because I think it's important for the American people to know where that fifteen dollars that they're contributing. Or that twenty five or hundred or ten thousand dollars that they're contributing or some of these groups are going and what they're going for . One of the concerns is that . As I said earlier . The extreme environmental movement has taken over the grassroots . Environmental Movement. It is no longer about no longer about saving the environment. It is about raising money . And they spend an awful lot of their funds. Raising money. One of the letters written by. The Defenders of Wildlife. Says dear friend. I need your help to stop an impending slaughter. Otherwise Yellowstone National Park an American Wildlife Treasury. Will soon become a bloody killing field. And the victims will be hundreds of wolves and defenseless Wolf ups. So begins a fund raising letter from one of America's fastest growing. Environmental groups Defenders of Wildlife . Using the popular North American Greywolf as the hub . Of an ambitious campaign defended defenders. Has assembled a financial track record. That would impress Wall Street. In one thousand nine hundred ninety donations jumped twenty eight percent to a record seventeen point five million . The group's net assets a measure of financial stability . Grew to fourteen point five million another record. And according to a one nine hundred ninety nine annual report defend . Defenders spent. Donors. Money wisely. Keeping. Fund raising and management cost to a lean. One thousand percent of their expenses. But there is another side to the divine defenders dramatic growth. Pick up copies of the federal tax returns and you'll find that its five highest paid business partners are not firms that specialize in wildlife conservation. They are national direct mail and telemarketing companies. You'll also find in calculating its fundraising expenses defenders borrows a trick from the business world. It dances with the . It's. Finds opportunities for obfuscation . Uses. Accounting loopholes. It classifies millions of dollars spent on direct mail and telemarketing. Not as fundraising but as public education environmental activism . Take away the loophole and offenders one thousand percent fund raising and management . Tab. Leaps from fifty percent meaning more than half of every dollar donated to save well thought. Wealth pops. Help to nourish the organization instead . That was high enough to earn defenders a D. rating from the American Institute of Philanthropy . And independent nonprofit. Watchdog that scrutinises nearly four hundred charitable groups . It's interesting when you look down the list . At some of the groups some some of the environmental groups did very well . The Nature Conservancy was an A minus . Environmental Defense was a B.. Greenpeace was a D. . Defenders of Wildlife was a D.. That's based on the amount of money they actually give to the cause for which they are raising the funds . How much of it goes into their organization to support fundraising. So many many of the dollars that people are giving because they read these. These articles in the newspaper that support. Protecting wolves and other types of things . People send in their fifteen dollars or so and much of that money over half of it in many cases. Doesn't go to saving Wallace. It goes to raising more money or to the organization. Or as you suggested. Mr Chairman. To the salaries of some of these individuals . In this. And these organizations . The. One of the other things that. That sort of. Concerns me . What concerns me a lot . Is the massive waste . In this fundraising the Wilderness Society . Mailed six point two million . Membership solicitations. An average of sixteen thousand nine hundred eighty six pieces of mail. A day. This is mail fatigue. The letters that come with a mailers are seldom dull . They are steeped in outrage they tell of a planet in perpetual environmental shock a world victimized by profit hungry corporations and they do so. Not with precise science or scientific prose but with boastful and often inaccurate sentences . That scream and shout . Some of the examples that were given in the Sacramento Bee. From the New York based Rain Forest Alliance. By this time tomorrow nearly one hundred species of wildlife will tumble into extinction. The fact is no one knows how rapidly species are going extinct. The Alliance figures as an extreme estimate that counts tropical beetles and other insects including ones. Not yet known to science . In its definition of wildlife. Another example from the Wilderness Society . We will fight to stop a reckless clear cutting on national forests in California and the Pacific Northwest . That threatens to destroy the last of America's unprotected ancient forests in as little as twenty years. Fact. The national forest logging. Has dropped dramatically in recent years in California. Clear cutting on national forest dipped to one thousand three hundred ninety five acres in one thousand nine hundred eight. Down eighty nine percent from one nine hundred ninety. And from the Defenders of Wildlife again. Won't you please adopt a furry little pup like hope. Hope is a cuddly Brown Wolf. Hopeful triumphantly born in Yellowstone. Fact. There never was a pop name hope. Says John Valeri chief of research at Yellowstone National Park we don't name wolves . We number of them . Since wolves were introduced into Yellowstone in one thousand nine hundred five their numbers have increased from fourteen to about one hundred sixty. The program has been so successful that Yellowstone officials now favor removing animals . From the federal endangered species list . And one of my favorite that I want to talk for just a minute about . Again comes from. The Defenders of Wildlife. And I wish I had some blowups of it but it's a poison alert. Wolves in danger. One of the. Sections that runs in a newspaper or a letter that goes out to individuals. Fundraising letter. Another one that says a special grift. When you join our pack and it has pictures of these cuddly wolves . More than one hundred sixty million American environmental fund raising pitches swirled through the U.S. mail last year some use the power of. Cute animals to attract donors. The problem is that in many cases those campaigns . Were less than honest. And this was the pitch. And this is the one that caught my attention . In Salmon Idaho . Which is in my district . In Salmon Idaho . Anti-war of sixty extremists committed a horrible crime . They killed two Yellowstone wolves. With lethal poison. Compound ten eighty . Please don't allow anti-welfare. Stream us to kill our wild wolves . These wolves families don't deserve to die . Please. We need your help now . And then of course they solicit a contribution . The fact is the two wolves were not Yellowstone wolves . But wolves reintroduced by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service . Into central Idaho against the state of Idaho those objections. To reintroduction of those walls . Some walls were killed illegally. But the population of walls continues to increase in a fat at a pace faster than federal Wolf recovery officials. Had anticipated . The government expects to remove wolves. From the federal endangered species list in three to four years . In fact in Idaho we have already met our commitment of ten mating pairs. The problem is that they take Montana and Wyoming . Together and say we have to have thirty. Breeding pairs within the entire region . Wolves are overpopulating Idaho. Better than anyone had anticipated . And they are using these instances . This group. Defenders of Wildlife . To raise money. To try to save wolves. Unfortunately much of the pleading that they do with the American public. At the best can be called dishonest. I like you Mr Chairman . I want to save the environment . We want to make sure that what we do. Is compatible with his species. And protecting species. But we also think that human beings . Play a role in this environment and in our world. And that human beings out it ought to be considered in this whole equation . Look at what . Congressman Walden is going through in Oregon right now where they've taken one hundred seventy thousand acres of two hundred thousand acres. Of arrogated land. That won't have water this year . Because a judge has ruled that the sucker fish that they're trying to protect. Is more important than those people .

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    MR. HANSEN

    . I yield back to the to the chairman. I think the gentleman from out of…

    . I yield back to the to the chairman. I think the gentleman from out of whole I'd like to yield to my friend from Florida.

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    MR. GOSS

    yield to my friend from Florida. Mr go off. I think the distinguished…

    yield to my friend from Florida. Mr go off. I think the distinguished chairman far as consideration of Mr Chairman and with their permission I would like to address the speaker . They

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    recognized for us to follow Mr Speaker. Or reason the gentleman from…

    recognized for us to follow Mr Speaker. Or reason the gentleman from Florida.

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    MR. GOSS

    gentleman from Florida. Ross Baker I said to the desk a progress report…

    gentleman from Florida. Ross Baker I said to the desk a progress report from the Committee on Rules for falling out of the role.

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    THE CLERK

    role. Political Report the title. Report to accompany House Resolution one…

    role. Political Report the title. Report to accompany House Resolution one thirty six. Resolution waiving points of order against a conference report to accompany the concurrent resolution. House concurrent resolution eighty three establishing. The congressional budget for the United States government for the fiscal year two thousand and two . Revising the congressional budget for the United States government for fiscal year two thousand and one . And setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for each of the fiscal years two thousand and three through two thousand and eleven .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    years two thousand and three through two thousand and eleven . It is…

    years two thousand and three through two thousand and eleven . It is referred to the house calendar in order. Printed

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    MR. HANSEN

    . The gentleman from Utah may proceed . I want to thank the. Distinguished…

    . The gentleman from Utah may proceed . I want to thank the. Distinguished chairman . For his

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    MR. GOSS

    consideration and courtesy as usual I was important house business and I…

    consideration and courtesy as usual I was important house business and I apologize for interrupting . They train of thought of what's going on here which is also important house possess.

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    MR. HANSEN

    But. I think that we need to get a rule for tomorrow. Thank you friend…

    But. I think that we need to get a rule for tomorrow. Thank you friend from Florida. Speaker I appreciate the gentle for Mata Hari his very interesting comment. Let me point out . We both got any idea of how much money these folks bring and. I'm a chart here that points out some of the money that's brought in and look at the amount of money that came and one year. To these organizations and then the question comes up . While one of those spent of. four And we first got into this thing we were arguing the idea. Or this is the people that have the fire and there's go out and take care of the public land. Well as we've both discussed in the last. While it's not that it's more of an idea of raising more money and more money and more money and where is it spent . How much you give a little example if I could about an environmental group in the state of Utah not hasten to say this that's what the public wants . Fine . If the public wants this money to just go into paying lawyers . Pain marketeers . Pain advertising K. Street type of thing. Madison Avenue fine . But I thought that most of us who got involved in this thing didn't want that. I thought. We wanted to restore the force. And the clean water. And the wildlife. And do it in a way that is environmentally sound at the same time. To take good care of the energy and as we know we've got one common Bill let me just refer to this one group. There call the southern Utah wilderness society . And some people are there and some of my I think are a little misled but they probably think the same thing about me . This group raises more than two million dollars each year in donations from hardworking people who care about protecting our environment. The monies raised under the direction of. The idea of protecting Utah wilderness lands . Send description money . And you'll help wilderness in the Colorado . Plateau you were told. And so I sent out these beautiful calendar saying this is what you'll protect. However some of it's in national parks . Only one was in that area but. It was a pretty calendar anyway. However when you look at their tax reports you will find that not one dime of this money is actually spent on environment. Not a penny goes to plant a tree . Restore stream bad. Or protect an editor of ground in Utah or anywhere else. Not a dollar. To create habitat to cake care of an animal. What this group does is they lobby for the passage of a wilderness legislation in fact they lobbied to pass virtually the same all tired worn out legislation every year but they keep raising the ante. I find it interesting at that group witnessed when we said Now look no one from Utah really wants this should all go back to the time that Congressman Owens was here. He wanted it he introduced it. And those days what they don't realize is Congressman Allen's was then a member of the majority party . Which was then the Democratic Party. This president was a Democrat. The House and the Senate were Democrat and I was the ranking member of the committee . And they never ever asked for a hearing. So I wonder how serious they were about it now as days . As a racial Associated Press story noted the only and impact. This bill has in the last decade are the trees that were killed to provide for the paper in which the bill is printed year after year. Their affairs lobbyists they have a staff of twenty attorneys lobbyist and strategists who operate offices in four cities including Washing D.C. . They spent all the eleven thousand dollars and nine hundred ninety nine and grassroots efforts to reach out to the public . Though they claim their primary reason for existence is to educate the public. About the environment . But there spent nearly a million dollars . In the last four years to lobby. To get their well dismissed legislation passed. Our pride really believes that the last. In the world this group wants to pass that bill that's why they keep moving the goalposts . That's why the numbers keep going up. Above all this organization is a self-perpetuating consumer of resource and energy. They deal in volumes of paper and plastic that you sure their own credit cars the affinity credit card. That's what our environment needs more credit cards. They do a brisk business in the sale of videos T. shirts hats. Books. Posters. Most of these products are either made from non degradable materials like plastic or require the cutting down of trees of paper . They send out more than one hundred thousand new lead. Newsletters flyers and bulletins each. year Folks that's a lot of trees. And that doesn't include the reports press releases and lawsuits. They're aggressive use of electricity. For offices all these things that they talk about. Now I'd like to just say something about the lawsuits. If I could move this one chart. Here look at the number of lawsuits that the environmental community has done in one thousand nine hundred two thousand four hundred thirty five environmental lawsuits. I don't wear out or taking care of the environment. I don't know we're just in this thing of litigating this is the most litigious society we've ever had but all of us litigate again. And there's not much they have made thirty one point six million legal fees paid by the U.S. government whether they want to loft. That your taxpayer money folks thirty one thousand dollars right there . If they win or lose they get that money . One case netted three point five million dollars for the share club. And it was questionable whether it was even endangered . The average award is in excess of seventy thousand dollars and they risked nothing. So why go out and get you to give them money to plant a tree . To pick up the garbage to be aware of these things to take good care of the environment . When you can get in court make that kind of money. Who's going to be smart about this thing . This thing isn't in there to perfect protect the environment not reminds me of when I was back here as a freshman. Ninety. Day one the secretary of interior was Jim Watt. And he was supposed to come in to save me was Senator Garn over an Indian school . And that morning I received in the mail of something from a group they were going to save the Chesapeake Bay That was all ruined in a sad Mr Hanssen if you will send us ten twenty thirty forty fifty dollars. We'll do our best to meet with the Interior Committee and Secretary Watt who is ruining the Chesapeake Bay and saw that afternoon the secretary walked in and I said Jim I want to show you this . And he laughed. What do you mean I put two hundred eighty five million dollars into protecting the Chesapeake Bay . And he said that's just poppy cock choice send him ten dollars because I was curious what they're going to have. What was going to happen . Six months later I got a letter back. Sad. Mr Hanson do to your generous contribution. We have met with the Interior Committee of the house which I said on are a sitting on in those days. Also all. And they never walked in and we have influenced Interior Department to do our very best to take care of this terrible problem and we've got that if you'll send us more money. Another generous contribution will be there to help do those other things . And I thought lot of. Poppycock is just like these people who prey upon the elderly. Regarding security . When half of those. Asportation . Allegations I should say. Are not true. Well I can just tell you just rest assured there are members here there on a resource committee we're not going to do. Drill in parks as a whole was mentioning some people doubt. That's not going to happen. We're not going to hurt. Our rape or pillage the ground if anything and a moderate reasonable way. We're standing ready to take care of the ground. So I guess we ask ourselves the question you want to pay attorneys. You know we do enough attorneys retirement bills around here anyway. I don't know why we have to make it easy for other people to do that and those folks saying we do pretty well . American trial attorneys do extremely well. And I don't think we want to do that. I think your money should go to. Take care of the public grounds of America. And take good care of it. And I would hope that every American is a good conservationist and a good environmentalist in the true sense of the word. And that's what I'm hoping would happen if you want to spend your money put it somewhere where it does from good. To somewhere where we can have access to the public ground. And while we have access to the public ground. Let's each one of us take good good care of it. I took my children we've taught. Went to the very top of the UN to you in the mountains peak highest peak in the UN it. I've taught my children we go on an area and we find all kinds of thing we found five beer cans right on the top of this beautiful area of course we crushed them took them out our theory is. Is clean up bars. And somebody else's. And take it out your back pack it. I wish with all the debt. I'm happy to yield to the gentleman from California the chairman of the western caucus. An extremely important member of the resource committee the gentleman from California Mr O'Donovan. Thank you

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    MR. RADANOVICH

    California Mr O'Donovan. Thank you Mr Chairman and I want to thank you for…

    California Mr O'Donovan. Thank you Mr Chairman and I want to thank you for putting together as. This special order and. Regarding this topic which I think is very important to the American people and as we're speaking here with an audience of. Probably over a million people. Tonight I really want to kind of. Pose the question to the American people. We were dealing with an issue that's important to you and important to me . With regard to local influence over. Federal government lands and the management plans . Of our national forests and our federal lands . And it was said by some critic. About local influences that that those people that are closest to the resources . Really don't speak in the interest of the American people on public lands which are of lands for the for the American people and. And that somehow. The national organizations that . Send out contribution forms like what you just mentioned. Are somehow speaking for them and . You know in some ways I wanted to agree that the local perspective on some of these resources . And keep in mind. The Quincy line. Very group which is a group in California. Of local people that work together with forests. Federal forest lands . To develop forest policies that are not only good for the forest but also good for the local communities. And it was a better plan than. Then by far any Washington barrack record put together and. My concern was that while people might understand that a local. Person's influence. May not represent the best interest of the American public for public lands. There is another side to that too and that is that when you have extreme zealots like. That. The list that you just mentioned . Of people that . Solicit for any one reason or another . Money to keep their influence. It doesn't necessarily mean that those influence those groups have the environment is the best in. Interest in their minds. And in their hearts and that that they put persue public policy. It's good for the American people and good for America's public lands. Environment because it's not what it really boils down to is power and influence and keeping that . And I think that's what you've done very excellent. In an excellent way in demonstrating night. That it's not necessarily about. Good environmental policy for federal lands. It's about. Power. Keeping power keeping power and influence. And I think that the federal policies become secondary to that. And it's proven by some of the foolish notions that . The that have come up in these last years like roads moratoriums and. The Sierra Nevada framework which is just a nightmare for people in the Sierra forests in California . And some of these other issues where where people with good intentions. And maybe fears that. You know in. On the Earth we're becoming too populated. And that we have to Reserve and Guard these public lands at all costs. But are basically operating out of fear and not good common sense when it comes to management of public lands. And so I'm I'm I just I'm grateful that you. Pinpointed even the Sacramento Bee in California did a series of articles on the environmental community and how they . They are such a money raising . Operation . Whose sole sole interest I think these days has become to remain an influence and secondarily was the environmental policy that they promoted . That. It's really become out of control I think the American public needs to really take a second guess because. Groups like the Sierra Club and the N.R.D.C.. DO NOT corner the market on a good environmental policy in this country. And I think the American people need to realize that it needs to be balanced by. Somebody who's there or it's like onsite landlord. Rather than a. Somebody who's never on site. On a piece of rental property . The one who's on site knows what's going on knows the detail knows the property better than anybody else and it's no different than. In our federal lands that . The Sierra Club and the N.R.D.C. and groups like that depend on people that are miles and miles away and never see the resource. So how would they know one way or the other if they're being improperly influenced by these groups are not. They wouldn't know but but they but they tend to react on the on the . You know. Pictures of Bambi on the T.V. or in their mailers that they get and they give money . But these people need to know that they are not those groups are not necessarily . Promoting the best environmental policy for public lands and that's what I want to come down and kind of reinforce the as what you were saying is that people need to really be aware of these groups and don't. And they need to learn to second guess them and just don't take them for granted that . That what they're doing is good environmental policy. And . Thank you for holding this special order. In

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    MR. HANSEN

    order to bring up. Points like that as well as many other points that you…

    order to bring up. Points like that as well as many other points that you brought up . I think the gentleman from California .

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    MR. SIMPSON

    You're live John from our home. I think the chairman and I think General…

    You're live John from our home. I think the chairman and I think General California rist comments I agree with him fully you know . The chairman made a good point that. Unfortunately this money that is spent on litigation is money that could go it's taxpayers' money to start with and it is money that could go to protecting the environment . When I met with Chief John back a couple of years ago and talk to him about some of the problems we were having in Idaho in our national forests. He said to me that one of the problems they have in the Forest Service is making its decision because they know no matter what decision they make are going to be sued. And last year. In this article. That was from the Sacramento Bee. During the one nine hundred ninety S.. The government paid out thirty one point six million dollars in attorney's fees for four hundred thirty four environmental cases brought against federal agencies the average award for case was more than seventy thousand dollars . One long running lawsuit in Texas involved in and dangerous salamander. Netted lawyers for the Sierra Club and other plaintiffs more than three point five million dollars in taxpayer spongers the chairman has already pointed out . That's money that could be used for other environmental purposes and actually cleaning up the environment . And taking care of the backlog in maintenance that we have in our national forests and in our national parks . And again it is. It is taxpayer money. One of the main arguments. For the roadless. Issue was that the Forest Service didn't have the money to maintain the roads that they currently had. And so if they couldn't maintain those how could they justify. Building more roads so we might as well make them road less. Well if we're spending all that money on lawsuits then certainly we don't have the money to take care of the roads. You know one of the things that was interesting in this series of articles . Is that the effects of these things are actually damaging to the environment oftentimes . And let me read a portion of these articles . While fire today is inflicting nightmarish wounds. Injuries made worse by a failure to heed scientific warnings for example. And there's a. Three of them here that they missed . In one thousand nine hundred. For. WALLACE Covington a professor of forest ecology at Northern University. Northern Arizona University and a nationally recognized fire scientist and a colleague warned that the Kendrick mountain wilderness area in northern Arizona was so clouded with vegetation it was ready to explode . Delay will only perpetuate fuel buildup and increase the potential for uncontrolled and destructive wildfires they wrote in a scientific analysis . For the National Forest. Something was done but not enough last year and a large fire swept through the region. Carving an apocalyptic trail of destruction. What happened is much worse. Ecologically than a clear cut. Much worse Covington said. And that fire is in the future. It's happening again and again. We're going to have skeletal. Landscapes. The other example listening to listening to fire and forest scientists. Martha cattell pleated in one thousand nine hundred six for permission to log in and Cinder a massive storm. Killed . Timber in California's Trinity outs. This is a true emergency a vast magnitude cattell then supervisor of the six six river. Or six Rivers National Forest wrote to her boss in San Francisco. It is not a matter of . If a fire will occur. But how extensive the damage will be when the fire does occur. Because of an environmental peel. The project. Bogged down. Then in one nine hundred ninety nine a fire found its way into the area. It spewed smoke for hundreds of miles incinerated spotted owl habitat and triggered soil erosion and stream damage. In a key Stammen spawning watershed. Well the stories are something that I hear about daily as I go back to Idaho from my resource advisory group and. My AG advisory groups and I talk to them. We did more damage last year in Idaho . With the nation's largest wildfires. We did more damage to the environment. To salmon habitat to spawning habitat. And was done by any logging practices that have ever been done. And today is that snow melts. The rains come hopefully the rains come . That erosion . Is going to filter down into those streams and it's going to cover the rads and consequently you're going to have a difficult time with with managing salmon habitat. So oftentimes these efforts to address these environmental concerns the potential for catastrophic wildfire. Today the Forest Service says something like thirty five percent of our national fire force. Is at risk of catastrophic was thirty five million acres I guess it is . Of our national forest are at risk of catastrophic wildfires and these are not just fires. These are cataclysmic fires. That burn everything they burn so hot they burn. The micro. Microorganisms they but they sterilize the soil. Down to as much as eighteen inches . And for years and years . Those forces. Never recover. If they ever do recover we still have spots in Idaho from the one nine hundred ten fire . That nothing will grow on. We do more damage to the environment by not proactively managing it. And of course every time you try to do that. There's an environmental lawsuit someone from someone. And now they say well maybe we can do. Thinning if it is not for commercial purposes . As if commercial or business or profit. Add some damage to the environment that thinning just a thin. Doesn't do. Of course there are the Sierra Club groups that want no cut the fact is we have to proactively manage these forests. And we can do that. It was managed by fire before . Now we have to get in and do some management. So that we don't have these catastrophic fires. And unfortunately. At every step of the way. We're fight by groups who think that man should not touch the forest that they should be left as natural as they have ever ever were before we came here to challenge.

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    MR. HANSEN

    we came here to challenge. Misspeaking rational much time and how every…

    we came here to challenge. Misspeaking rational much time and how every man.

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    rational much time and how every man.

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    Proximately eleven minutes . Eleven men. I think speaker . Let me just say…

    Proximately eleven minutes . Eleven men. I think speaker . Let me just say a word about what Jennifer Mata who just talked about. Are having a hearing not too long ago and. Long haul the. One of the big clubs was there. And I asked this vice president a question. So why is it that you resist managing the public ground. Why is it that you're resist the idea that we can go and to do some cleaning sinning . Prescribed fires. And take care and keep a wholesome force. Like many of the private organizations have we now have as the Jennifer motto said fuel load what is fuel load . Is Dead trees is dead fall it's brush . And so now you have the potential of this summer as last summer . Is a careless smoker or a fire caused by a camp ground a camp farthest . Left on attended. Or a lightning strike which is one of the bigger ones . And here we go again. We're going to burn the forest. The city this person from this organization and from and said . Because it's not nature's way . Nature's way and just let it do its thing . Why don't know if I bought into that I mean you get down to the idea of a ninety five we started to for service if you read the charter of the for service . It is to maintain and take care of the force of America. And that means . Cleaning it fitting it. Making sure that fighting fires instead of getting ourselves . And what we had two thousand and the year two thousand the heaviest fire year in record. And I dare say and I'm no prophet but I think the fuel is still there are these eight years of mismanagement we've had. And we now have two thousand one waiting for another one because Talk to your local forester and of people Mr Speaker a watching ISSUE talk to their district Rangers. They should talk to him and ask the question of we still got that fuel load and the answers are resigning and so here we go again . Going to spend. Taxpayers' money all over the place because we haven't done . What they said in one thousand nine hundred five we should have done and that's managed to force. This new administration luckily has a man of the stature of Dale Boswell at the now . And I'm sure will say sure man I have to ask the question. Does it mean to be a good environmentalist we let the forest burn to the ground. Does that mean being a good environmentalist. If so I hope there's not too many of them out there. Does it mean the idea that we drain some of our water resources light like this services the whole southwest part of America. And that's where we live because we've got water does that mean be a good one. You know one of the biggest organizations around in their book. This year and a whole. Four or five pages on let a river runs through it and dren like want to comment on a. Well I do and want to comment on one specifically thing because I think I got an unusual perspective on being from California Mr answer and that is because we're going to California and I have to be careful and I know.

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    MR. RADANOVICH

    we're going to California and I have to be careful and I know. And I love…

    we're going to California and I have to be careful and I know. And I love my state and it's the best state in the world and. Don't mess with California. But what I'm saying is that . Is that we have . We have really in. We have really seen the over influence of environmental zealots as I'm in California. And where we're viewing that in our energy policy. We have. Have had the worst problem with the NIMBY attitude on the had developed of energy generation resources in California. But it's all been backed by. You know your top environmental groups who have really wanted not the population of California to grow . So they basically forced officials to stick their heads in the Santa pretend it wasn't happening . Until we have an energy crisis like now. And an upcoming water shortage I mean. Unfortunately . California's going to get the point where they where they turn on the faucet they get no water . They flip the switch they get no electricity . Because the environmental flow influence on public policy . In the state of California. And it's not just in California. It's happening all over the world . Today. This summer we're going to have to face the fact of whether you . You either force. A temper a relaxation. Of air quality standards . Or you going to have long blackouts of people going to be dead. And those are the choices that we're facing in California. And you know what you. People going to face that choice all over the country. Because of the. Undue

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    MR. HANSEN

    influence of the environmental community in this country right going to…

    influence of the environmental community in this country right going to see it this summer if I may say the gel from California just Summers going to be the biggest. White cup call in America has had for a long time. Eight years or neglect in these things is now going to catch up with us. But we're asking why does it mean to be a good environmentalist. Does it mean to deny access to the public grounds of America. For the Americans. I think knock. Is it May that we protect the house fly over children. Excel in southern Utah we've got a desert tortoise and we spent thirty three thousand dollars per. Turtle. And we can't really say that it's endangered . What our weighted people unit is to pay for our kids every year down there are thirty six hundred dollars. I guess the turtle is more important in some people's mind . But it comes down to this. Can Americans who are great and wonderful and good thinking people can we come some sense common on this or here we come way to extreme. In this issue. I think tonight we've tried to make that case that we feel we have Jennifer Maho Mr Chairman I. I

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    MR. SIMPSON

    Jennifer Maho Mr Chairman I. I think the point is made that unfortunately…

    Jennifer Maho Mr Chairman I. I think the point is made that unfortunately the environmental movement has become far too extreme. That doesn't mean that there are good environmentalists out there many housewives and husbands across the nation that want to take care of our land in our country. I being one of those and I'm sure you and. Gentleman from California also. But as I was saying earlier you know many of these things don't really address the environment or. Don't address the environment they hurt more than they had it. Address it. They are trying to . to Use environmental issues. For other means. And I will tell you an example in Idaho. We have a sage grouse problem declining say. Sage grouse populations where trying to find out why and what we can do to control it . Fish and Wildlife Service now to go fish and game . For twenty years I've been studying this and I decided that predators are a main problem with sage grouse populations they eat the on checks . So they proposed a study to take two areas one where they did some . Predator control this year . And the other one where they didn't do any predator control. And examine the two of them and see the sage grouse populations . But. To environmental groups have sued them to stop the study. Because they want to protect the sage grouse they say. But their real goal. Is their argument is to get cattle. Off of this land . And if it is shown this that sage grouse can be protected by removing some of the predators the argument for removing cattle. Goes away. And so they don't want to study done . So is it truly their aim to try to save the sage grouse or is their true. True aim to get cattle off public land regardless of what cattle does . The sage grouse. You know when I want to look at a true conservationist. And original conservationists. I look at the farmers and ranchers of this country. Because it is the land. That produces the crop that produces the grass that the cows eat . That's what they depend on for a living . And they take care of that overwhelming majorities of them. Take care of it. So when I want them to conservation issues. I generally talk to my farmers and my ranchers. When I go back to the gentleman.

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    MR. HANSEN

    Speaker I thank you for the time we've had a nine year old black belt for…

    Speaker I thank you for the time we've had a nine year old black belt for time.

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    To Charile entertain emotional journey . The speaker .

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    MR. SIMPSON

    speaker .

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    speaker . Moved past know you during . The questions on the motion of…

    speaker . Moved past know you during . The questions on the motion of those in favor say aye . As opposed to motions agreed to quarterly The House stands adjourned . The House today worked on the fiscal year two thousand and two federal budget resolution. Members sent the measure back to the House Senate conference committee for some revisions . And it was

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