U.S. Senate Confirms Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State, 57-42
House Session - July 13, 2011
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  • 10:01:33 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL NOW BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE A…

    THE HOUSE WILL NOW BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE A COMMUNICATION FROM THE SPEAKER.

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  • 10:01:41 AM

    THE CLERK

    THE SPEAKER'S ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 13, 2011. I HEREBY APPOINT THE…

    THE SPEAKER'S ROOM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 13, 2011. I HEREBY APPOINT THE HONORABLE RENEE L. ELLMERS TO ACT AS SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE ON THIS DAY . SIGNED JOHN A. BOEHNER, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

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  • 10:02:01 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    EXCUSE ME. PURSUANT TO THE ORDER OF THE HOUSE OF JANUARY 5, 2011, THE…

    EXCUSE ME. PURSUANT TO THE ORDER OF THE HOUSE OF JANUARY 5, 2011, THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MEMBERS FROM LISTS SUBMITTED BY THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS FOR MORNING HOUR DEBATE . THE CHAIR WILL ALTERNATE RECOGNITION BETWEEN THE PARTIES WITH EACH PARTY LIMITED TO ONE HOUR AND EACH MEMBER OTHER THAN THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS AND THE MINORITY WHIP LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES EACH BUT IN NO EVENT SHALL DEBATE CONTINUE BEYOND 11:50 A.M. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR.

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  • 10:02:47 AM

    MR. KUCINICH

    AGO 276 EXPERTS ON SOCIAL SECURITY, THE FEDERAL BUDGET OR THE ECONOMY…

    AGO 276 EXPERTS ON SOCIAL SECURITY, THE FEDERAL BUDGET OR THE ECONOMY WROTE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA, QUOTE, TO CORRECT A COMMONLY HELD MISCONCEPTION THAT SOCIAL SECURITY SOMEHOW CONTRIBUTES TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S DEFICIT, UNQUOTE. DESPITE THE FACT THAT SOCIAL SECURITY HAS A $2.6 TRILLION SURPLUS AND CAN PAY 100% OF ITS BENEFITS THROUGH 2037 WITHOUT ANY CUTS OR TAX INCREASES, PRESIDENT OBAMA DECLARED YESTERDAY THAT SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS MAY NOT GO OUT AFTER AUGUST 2. PRESUMABLY UNLESS THERE'S A DEAL ON THE FEDERAL DEFICIT WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOCIAL SECURITY. ACCORDING TO TODAY'S "WASHINGTON POST," 15 YEARS AGO CONGRESS PASSED LAWS WHICH STATED SOCIAL SECURITY DID NOT COUNT AGAINST THE DEBT LIMIT AND GAVE TREASURY CLEAR AUTHORITY TO USE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUNDS TO PAY BENEFITS AND ADMINISTRATION EXPENSES IN THE EVENT A DEBT CEILING IS REACHED. A FAKE SOCIAL SECURITY CRISIS WILL DO MOG TO SOLVE A REAL DEBT CRISIS, WILL UNDERMINE THE PUBLIC'S FAITH IN GOVERNMENT AND WILL CREATE UNNECESSARY ANXIETY AMONG OUR ELDERLY. STOP PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES WITH SOCIAL SECURITY. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:04:33 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. DENHAM, FOR FIVE…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. DENHAM, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:04:43 AM

    MR. DENHAM

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. WITH THE JUNE NATIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AT 9.2%…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. WITH THE JUNE NATIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AT 9.2% AND CONSISTENT DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT IN MY DISTRICT, WE MUST GET AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. JUNE MARKS 29 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS WHERE WE'VE HAD UNEMPLOYMENT AT OR ABOVE 8%. AVERAGING 9.5% DURING THAT TIME. UNEMPLOYMENT HASN'T BEEN ABOVE 8% FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. WE GOT TO START UTILIZING THE POLICIES THAT WILL GET AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REDUCING THE REGULATIONS AND HAVING THE ECONOMIC POLICIES TO GET AMERICANS WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK, THE RISK TO GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY TO START A BUSINESS, WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK TO NOT ONLY HIRE EMPLOYEES BUT ACTUALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO HAVE THAT LONG-TERM EMPLOYMENT, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE PROMISE TO THAT EMPLOYEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT JOB ON. WE GOT TO GET AMERICANS THE -- GIVE AMERICANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE GREAT RISK IN OUR ECONOMY. WE ALSO NEED TO UNLEASH THE STRENGTH OF OUR NATION BY UTILIZING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. HERE'S THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE AS A NATION TO GET AMERICANS BACK TO WORK IS BY UTILIZING OUR OWN NATURAL RESOURCES. IN MY AREA WHERE WE GOT DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT WE HAVE WATER SHORTAGE THAT CAUSES OUR AGRICULTURE TO LEAVE LAND FALLOW, LEAVING THOUSANDS UNPLANNED PARENTHOOD. BY GETTING THE WATER FLOWING AGAIN, WE CANNOT ONLY GET -- IF WE DON'T USE THE NATURAL RESOURCES WE HAVE IN OUR FORESTS, IF WE DON'T MANAGE OUR TIMBER HARVESTING PLAN, NOT ONLY WILL WE SEE THE LACK OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE'LL SEE DEVASTATION. WE'LL SEE FIRES BECAUSE THE FORESTS WILL MANAGE THEMSELVES IF WE DON'T MANAGE THE FORESTS FOR THEM. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS THE NATION OUR OIL RESERVES. BETWEEN OUR OIL, OUR NATURAL GAS, OUR SHALE RESERVES, WE HAVE THE LARGEST RESOURCES IN THE WORLD. WE JUST GOT TO BE WILLING TO TAP INTO THEM. WE NEED TO SHORTEN THE TIME ON PERMITS. WE NEED TO REDUCE THE REGULATION SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN AND GET THE OIL SO WE'RE NOT DEPENDENT ON OTHER NATIONS. THESE AREN'T REPUBLICAN JOBS. THESE ARE NOT DEMOCRATIC JOBS. THESE ARE AMERICAN JOBS THAT WE GOT TO GO OUT, STAND STRONG ON CUTTING THE REGULATION, ON GETTING THE RIGHT ECONOMIC POLICIES, GETTING THE PERMITS MOVING AGAIN SO WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE OUR NATURAL GAS, UTILIZE OUR OIL, UTILIZE OUR OIL SHALE SO WE ARE NOT RELYING ON OTHER NATIONS, RELYING ON OUR TIMBER HARVESTING AND UTILIZING OUR WATER SO WE CAN GET AGRICULTURE MOVING AGAIN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT A JOB TO DO HERE IN CONGRESS. WE GOT TO GET THE AMERICAN JOBS MOVING AGAIN. THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND GETTING AMERICANS WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK ON OUR ECONOMY, WILLING TO INVEST, WILLING TO BORROW MONEY TO START A NEW BUSINESS AND WILLING TO GO OUT THERE AND PROMISE A NEW EMPLOYEE NOT ONLY THAT THEY'LL HAVE A JOB BUT A LONG-TERM JOB. WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT HERE IN CONGRESS. WE NEED TO HAVE THE WILL. MADAM CHAIR, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:08:21 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

  • 10:08:31 AM

    MR. GUTIERREZ

    MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO HONOR A TOWERING FIGURE IN PUERTO RICAN…

    MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO HONOR A TOWERING FIGURE IN PUERTO RICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE. PUERTO RICO AND THE WORLD LOST A PIONEERING AND LEADING SCHOLAR LAST WEEK WITH THE PASSING OF DONE RICARDO ALEGRIA. HIS STUDY OF THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE INDIANS OF PUERTO RICO WAS GROUNDBREAKING WORK. BY HELPING PUERTO RICANS TO UNDERSTAND THE AFRICAN AND EUROPEAN HERITAGE AS WELL AS MANY OTHER IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF PUERTO RICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE, DON RICARDO HELPED US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE CAME FROM AND WHAT BEING PUERTO RICAN REALLY MEANS. HE'S NOT ONLY A SCHOLAR TO HELP PUERTO RICANS UNDERSTANDING OUR HISTORY, HE WAS A DETERMINED AND PROUD MAN THAT REFUSED TO LET OUR CULTURE FORGOTTEN AND DESTROYED. HE WAS PART OF THE INSTITUTE OF PUERTO RICAN CULTURE AND MANY OTHER RESEARCH, CULTURAL AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS. IN THIS ROLE HE WAS A WARRIOR DEFENDING OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE. IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY WITHOUT HIS LEADERSHIP AND TENACITY THE OLD BUILDINGS OF SAN JUAN WHICH ARE LOVED BY PUERTO RICANS AND VISITED BY MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD WOULD NOT BE STANDING TODAY. HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE WAS UNDERSTOOD BY ALL. HE MADE US BE PROUD TO BE PUERTO RICAN. HE EMBRACED WHAT MAKES PUERTO RICANS UNIQUE AND UNDERSTOOD WE HAVE OUR OWN IDENTITY AND NEVER RUN AWAY FROM IT, WE SHOULD CELEBRATE IT. WITHOUT QUESTION, HE LOVED OUR PEOPLE AND OUR HISTORY. I OFFER DON RICARDO ALEGRIA MY THANKS AND HIS DEDICATION TO PUERTO RICO, HIS LEADERSHIP FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE WAY WE ELEVATED OUR HISTORY. AT THIS TIME OF CRISIS IN PUERTO RICO, THOUGH THAT SEEM TO FORGET THE TRAITS THAT MAKE OUR ISLAND OUR ISLAND AND MAKE OUR HISTORY OUR HISTORY, DON RICARDO WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF MY WORK IN CONGRESS. THE INSPIRATION OF TOWERING PUERTO RICAN FIGURES LIKE DON RICARDO MOTIVATE ME TO DENOUNCE THE ATTACKS ON THE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF PUERTO RICANS. THESE ATTACKS COME FROM THE SAME QUARTER DON RICARDO FOUGHT ALL HIS LIFE. THEY SEEK TO DESTROY THE NATIONAL CULTURE AND ISLAND OF PUERTO RICO AND THEY HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED AND NEVER SUCCEED BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PUERTO RICANS LIKE DON RICARDO STANDING DEFIANTLY AND PROUDLY IN THEIR WAY. THIS FACT WAS DRIVEN HOME IN CONGRESS JUST YESTERDAY, MR. SPEAKER. AT A WELL-INTENDED BRIEFING CONDUCTED BY THE ACLU, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR PUERTO RICAN LATINO POLICY AND THE LEGAL DEFENSE AND EDUCATION FUND, AS PART OF THEIR BRIEFING, THESE ORGANIZATIONS SHOWED A VIDEO DEPICTING SOME OF THE MANY THEMES OF VIOLENCE BY THE POLICE OF PUERTO RICO AGAINST UNARMED AND PEACEFUL PROTESTORS. I HAVE SEEN THIS VIDEO AND I AM CERTAIN THAT MANY MEMBERS THAT SEE THESE IMAGES WOULD BE MOVED TO INDIG NATION AND ACTION, THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN UNDER THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THESE ABUSES ARE COMMITTED AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS IS SIMPLY SHAMEFUL. IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES SAW THESE IMAGES, I AM SURE THEY WOULD FEEL THE SAME THING I FELT WHEN I SAW THEM. MR. SPEAKER, IT'S OUT OF MY DEEP CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE OF PUERTO RICO THAT I WISH TO INFORM MY COLLEAGUES THAT I HAVE SENT A LETTER TODAY TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, ERIC HOLDER. THIS LETTER REQUESTS THE RELEASE OF ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION REGARDING CONTACTS BY OFFICIALS OR REPRESENTATIVES AND LOBBYISTS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO WITH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION INTO THE VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS OF SYSTEMATIC POLICE BRUTALITY IN PUERTO RICO, AN INVESTIGATION THAT IS OVER TWO YEARS OLD. I HAVE REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT BECAUSE PUBLIC REPORTS ALLEGE THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO IS USING ITS WELL-PAID, TOP WASHINGTON LOBBYISTS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO THWART THE RELEASE OF THE JUSTICE REPORT. IT IS BASED ON A LOBBYING DISCLOSURE FORM THAT DOES NOT GIVE DETAIL ON EXACTLY WHAT THE LOBBYISTS ARE DOING FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF PUERTO RICO. GIVEN THE RECENT HISTORY OF THE RULING PARTY OF PUERTO RICO IN WORKING IN SECRECY, THESE REPORTS HAVE RAISED SERIOUS DOUBTS IN MY MIND. MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WHILE THERE MAY NOT BE TRANSPARENT OF GOVERNMENT IN PUERTO RICO OR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT THERE, AS FAR AS THE GOVERNMENT IS CONCERNED, THE SECRECY AND THE IMPUNITY OF THE REGIME IN PUERTO RICO ENDS HERE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 10:13:06 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. KINZINGER, FOR FIVE…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. KINZINGER, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:13:13 AM

    MR. KINZINGER

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. LAST FRIDAY, SOMETHING ACTUALLY VERY GREAT…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. LAST FRIDAY, SOMETHING ACTUALLY VERY GREAT HAPPENED. WISCONSIN BAMED THE 49TH STATE IN THE UNION TO APPROVE CONCEAL CARRY. WELL, THAT MEANS THAT LEAVES MY HOME STATE, ILLINOIS, AS THE LAST STATE TO RECOGNIZE THAT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CONCEAL CARRY. THE ACTION TAKEN BY GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER WAS A MAJOR STEP FOR WISCONSIN BUT THE STATE OF ILLINOIS REMAINS THE ONLY STATE IN THE NATION TO PROHIBIT CONCEAL CARRY AND DENY LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS RIGHTS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES OR THEIR FAMILY. THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND 44 STATES COMMON LAW AND LAWS OF ALL 50 STATES RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT TO USE ARMS IN SELF-DEFENSE. IN 1895 THE SUPREME COURT CASE, BEARD VS. THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED THE COMMON LAW RULE THAT A PERSON MAY REPEAL FORCE BY FORCE IN SELF-DEFENSE AND CONCLUDED WHEN ATTACKED A PERSON IS ENTITLED TO STAND HIS GROUND AND MEET ANY ATTACK MADE UPON HIM WITH A DEADLY WEAPON. IN 2008, SUPREME COURT RULED IN DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA VS. HELLER THAT THE INHERENT RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE HAS BEEN CENTRAL TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT. AND THAT THE AMENDMENT PROTECTS THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO POSSESS AND CARRY WEAPONS IN CASE OF CONFRONTATION. RIGHT TO CARRY LAWS HAVE PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE. SINCE 1991 THROUGH 2009, 23 STATES HAVE ADOPTED THE RIGHT TO CARRY AND VIOLENT CRIME RATES HAVE DECLINED 43%. THIS ALL COMES ON THE HEELS OF A FIVE-FOLD INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SHALL CONCEAL CARRY CASE SINCE 1986 TO 2006. ALONG WITH THIS, SINCE THE 1980'S, WHEN CONCEALED CARRY ISSUES STARTED, THE NUMBER OF PERMIT HOLDERS IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE RAISE FROM ONE MILLION TO SIX MILLION PEOPLE. OF MAJOR NOTE, MURDER HAS DECLINED 49%. ALSO, THE CITY WITH THE HIGHEST GUN HOMICIDE RATE IN THE NATION, WASHINGTON, D.C., HAPPENS TO ALSO HAVE THE STRICTEST GUN CONTROL. THE LOWEST RATE OF GUN HOMICIDE IS IN THE NATION OF UTAH WHICH HAS SOME OF THE MOST LIBERAL POLICIES WHEN IT COMES TO CONCEAL CARRY. ACCORDING TO THE F.B.I., THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VIOLENT CRIME AND MURDER DROPPED 6% DURING THE FIRST PART OF 2011. GUN ADVOCATES ARE IN DISBELIEF OVER THESE NUMBERS. AND THIS NATION, NOT ONLY GOING THROUGH AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, HAVE SEEN THIS. THE NUMBER OF BACKGROUND CHECKS BROKE RECORD LEVELS, MORE THAN 14 MILLION, LAST YEAR ALONE. THAT'S A 55% INCREASE IN FIREARMS PURCHASES IN JUST FOUR YEARS, BUT IT HAS NOT EVEN LED REMOTELY CLOSE TO THE DOOM AND GLOOM AND HALF OCK BEING DONE BY ANTI-GUN ACTIVISTS. NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMIZATION SURVEY CONCLUDED THAT ROBBERY AND ASSAULT VICTIM WHO USE A GUN TO RESIST WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO ATTACK OR SUFFER AN INJURY THAN THOSE WHO USE ANY OTHER METHODS OF SELF-PROTECTION OR THOSE WHO DID NOT RESIST AT ALL. UNFORTUNATELY, IN MY HOME STATE IN ILLINOIS, GOVERNOR QUINN DETERMINED WHAT IS BEST FOR ILLINOIS. REARG THAN LISTENING TO THE VOICE OF THE ILLINOIS CONSTITUENCY, QUINN MADE DESPERATE 11TH HOUR PHONE CALL TO SWAY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES TO HIS SIDE AND BLOCK CONCEAL CARRY IN ILLINOIS. HE KNOWS BETTER THAN 49 OTHER STATES AND HE KNOWS BETTER THAN TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ILLINOIS STATE CHIEFS OF POLICE, CHICAGO POLICE LIEUTENANTS ASSOCIATION AND CHICAGO POLICE SERGEANTS ASSOCIATION. QUINN DOESN'T GET IT BUT 49 OTHER STATES DO AND SO DO I WHICH IS WHY I AM A PROUD CO-SPONSOR OF H.R. 822, THE NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY RECIPROCITY ACT OF 2011 WHICH WAS INTRODUCED BY MY COLLEAGUE, REPRESENTATIVE CLIFF STEARNS OF FLORIDA. THIS ALLOWS ANY PERSON WITH A STATE ISSUED CONCEAL TO CARRY IN EVERY OTHER STATE. THEIR STATES WILL APPLY. IN ILLINOIS, I REFUSE TO DENY VISITORS THE RIGHT TO CARRY WEAPONS WHEN THEY ARE SO AUTHORIZED TO DO SO. . WE MUST ALLOW LAW-ABIDINGING CITIZENS TO OWN AND BEAR ARMS. WE MUST RESTORE, DEFEND, AND PRESERVE THIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AT ALL GOVERNMENT LEVELS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:17:34 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. MCDERMOTT, FOR…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. MCDERMOTT, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:17:40 AM

    MR. MCDERMOTT

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

  • 10:17:49 AM

    MR. MCDERMOTT

    MADAM SPEAKER, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING WAYS TO…

    MADAM SPEAKER, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING WAYS TO REDUCE THE FEDERAL DEFICIT. REPUBLICANS HAVE SAID THAT EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AND THAT NOTHING IS SACRED, BUT THAT JUST ISN'T TRUE. THE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO CUT TAX GIVE AWAYS TO THE WEALTHY AND SPECIAL INTERESTS IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSSING THE MERITS OF CONTINUING OUR EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN, THE REPUBLICANS CLAMOR TO DEFEND IT DESPITE OUR FISCAL MESS. I WANT TO REMIND MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW IS NOT NEW. THROUGHOUT HISTORY FROM ROME TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE TO THE SOVIET UNION THE OVER EXTENSION OF MILITARY AND PROTRACTED STRUGGLES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES HAS CRIPPLED EMPIRES. SOME HISTORIANS HAVE CREDITED RONALD REAGAN FOR THE SOVIET UNION'S COLLAPSE BUT WHAT REALLY BANKRUPTED THE SOVIET UNION WAS ITS WARS, JUST LIKE US, THEY PAID A CRUSHING PRICE BOTH FINANCIALLY AND MORALLY IN AFGHANISTAN. OVEREXTENDING GEOPOLITICALLY COMES AT A COST OVER TIME IN ANY NATION THAT THINKS OTHERWISE IS SETTING ITSELF UP TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST. AS OF TODAY, THE UNITED STATES HAS SPENT MORE THAN 2 1/2 TIMES THE PERCENTAGE OF G.D.P. ON AFGHANISTAN THAT THE -- THAN THE SOVIET UNION SPENT ON ITS G.D.P. DURING ITS NINE-YEAR WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. PUBLIC POLLS ARE CLEAR, AMERICANS KNOW THE COST OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS UNSUSTAINABLE AND WANT US TO WITHDRAW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WHEN IT COMES TO CUTTING BACK ON SUPPORT FOR THE NEEDIEST AMERICANS, WE CAN'T SEEM TO FACE THE URGENT REALITY THAT THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND ABROAD NEEDS TO BE SPENT HERE AT HOME. THE FINANCIAL FACTS TELL THE STORY, TAXPAYERS IN MY DISTRICT IN SEATTLE HAVE SPENT $1.1 TRILLION -- BILLION FOR AFGHANISTAN WAR TO DATE. THINK ABOUT THAT. ONE CITY, $1.1 BILLION. FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY WE COULD PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 700,000 CHILDREN FROM LOW-INCOME FAMILIES OR PUT 125,000 KIDS IN HEAD START OR HEALTH CARE FOR 150,000 MORE VETERANS. IMAGINE HOW DIFFERENT IT WOULD BE IF STATES LIKE WISCONSIN WHICH FACES A $3.6 BILLION BUDGET DEFICIT DID NOT HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. SO THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS SIMPLE, WHAT IS OUR PRIORITY? FIGHTING A WAR WITH NO END? OR INVESTING IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? THE ANSWER LIES IN WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY WE ARE. WHAT LEGACY WE LEAVE BEHIND TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN. AND TRANSCENDING POLITICAL DECISIONS TOWARD A COMMON COMMITMENT TO MAKE AMERICA STRONG AGAIN. AMERICA WILL CEASE TO BE A WORLD POWER IF WE FAIL TO SUPPORT THE DOMESTIC FOUNDATIONS OF OUR NATION. YET THE HOUSE THAT DOES NOT EVEN BLINK AS IT APPROVES A $650 BILLION DEFENSE BUDGET LAST FRIDAY. WHILE THE REPUBLICANS WERE CUTTING ANY SPENDING THAT HELPS PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T SO MUCH AS FLINCH AS THEY THREW HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE BOTTOMLESS PIT OF THE DEFENSE BUDGET. WE NEED TO STOP SEEING THE WORLD THROUGH THE LENS OF CONSTANT THREAT AND FOSTER A SENSE OF THE COMMON GOOD. AND SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. THAT NOT OUR MILITARY FOOTPRINT, IS WHAT WILL ADVANCE OUR INTERESTS IN THE WORLD AND MAKE US CONFIDENT AGAIN. IN A NATIONAL POLL CONDUCTED LAST YEAR, 47% OF AMERICANS RATED CHINA'S ECONOMY AS THE STRONGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. OUR CRUMBLING ROADS REFLECT OUR CRUMBLING SELF-CONFIDENCE. OUR NATIONAL PRIORITY, PROSPERITY, IS VITAL TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE GETTING OUT OF AFGHANISTAN MUST BE THE CENTER OF RAISING AND REDUCING OUR DEFICIT. ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT WOULD IGNORE THE FISCAL REALITY AND THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO END THE AFGHANISTAN WAR. WE HAVE A CHOICE BEFORE US. CONTINUE THE WAR AND CONTINUE DOWNHILL, OR STOP THE WAR AND START UP THE HILL TO REGAIN WHAT WE HAVE LOST OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:22:05 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, MR. WILSON, FOR…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, MR. WILSON, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:22:10 AM

    MR. WILSON

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, BEFORE I BEGIN I'D LIKE TO JOIN…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, BEFORE I BEGIN I'D LIKE TO JOIN WITH MY COLLEAGUE, CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER, AND CONGRATULATE THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN ON PASSING A CONCEALED WEAPONS BILL. I THINK THEY'LL FIND AS WE HAVE FOUND IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT HAVING A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT, WE CALL IT THE LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN SELF-DEFENSE ACT, THAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF THIS, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO NOW, HAS BEEN A REDUCTION IN CRIME. AND IN FACT MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO AS I WAS A FLOOR LEADER IN THE STATE SENATE TO PROPOSE THE CONCEALED CARRY LAW, SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO OPPOSED IT, AND THEY OPPOSED IT THINKING THEY WERE DOING IT CORRECTLY, HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY TOLD ME THAT THEY REALLY ARE THRILLED THAT NOW IT HAS PASSED. THAT IT INDEED HAS PROMOTED A REDUCTION IN CRIME IN OUR STATE. AND I KNOW THE SAME WILL BE TRUE IN WISCONSIN AND POSSIBLY ONE DAY IN ILLINOIS. MADAM SPEAKER, TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WITH JUST WEEKS TO GO BEFORE OUR COUNTRY DEFAULTS ON ITS DEBTS, LIBERALS IN CONGRESS CONTINUE TO ROADBLOCK ANY PROGRESS ON REAL SPENDING CUTS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO SEE SPENDING REFORMS. THE ADMINISTRATION CAN CUT OTHER FEDERAL SPENDING BEFORE IT ALLOWS A DEFAULT ON THE U.S. DEBT. AMERICANS UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BURDENING FUTURE GENERATIONS WITH DEBT BY BORROWING OVER 40 CLENTS OF -- CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR IT SPENDS. SENIOR CITIZENS ARE AT RISK WITH THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR IN QUESTION. AMERICANS WANT TO SEE MEANINGFUL SPENDING REFORM. LIBERALS WANT TO PLAY POLITICAL GAMES. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO LEAD ON SPENDING REFORM. FROM THE MOMENT THIS NEW CONGRESS HAS BEEN IN SESSION, HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED NUMEROUS BILLS THAT CUT SPENDING, CURB GOVERNMENT GROWTH, AND ENCOURAGE JOB GROWTH FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES. THE LATEST NEWS ON THE DEBT LIMIT TALK SHOWS YET AGAIN HOW OUT-OF-TOUCH THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. CUT THE SPENDING. DO NOT IMPOSE NEW TAXES WHICH WILL KILL JOBS WHICH NEED TO BE DEVELOPED BY SMALL BUSINESSES. IN CONCLUSION, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS, AND WE WILL NEVER FORGET SEPTEMBER 11 AND THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM. MADAM CHAIR, I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:24:29 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PUERTO RICO, MR. PIERRE LUISY --…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PUERTO RICO, MR. PIERRE LUISY -- PIERLUISI FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:24:39 AM

    MR. PIERLUISI

    I RISE THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR HEALTH…

    I RISE THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR HEALTH CARE IN PUERTO RICO AND THE OTHER TERRITORIES. THIS IS A STORY OF UNPRECEDENTED PROGRESS, BUT IT IS ALSO A CHRONICLE OF CONTINUING CHALLENGES. WHILE THE TREATMENT OF THE TERRITORIES ON THEIR FEDERAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED IN RECENT YEARS, SERIOUS DISPARITIES STILL REMAIN. THE CONSEQUENCE OF THIS INEQUALITY IS NOT DIFFICULT TO DISCERN. LAST MONTH A STUDY FOUND THAT PATIENTS AT HOSPITALS IN THE TERRITORIES FAIRED SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN PATIENTS AT HOSPITALS IN THE STATES. THE STUDY CITED FUNDING DISPARITIES UNDER MEDICAID AND MEDICARE ALONG WITH THE TERRITORIES' LACK OF VOTING REPRESENTATION IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS LIKELY CAUSES FOR THIS DISCREPANCY. THIS ARTICLE CONCLUDED THAT ELIMINATING THE SUBSTANTIALLY QUALITY GAP IN THE U.S. TERRITORIES SHOULD BE A NATIONAL PRIORITY. CONSIDER MEDICAID WHICH HELPS OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS. MEDICAID HAS ALWAYS OPERATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE TERRITORIES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS AT LEAST 50% OF THE PROGRAMS' COST IN THE WEALTHIEST STATES AND UPWARDS OF 80% IN THE POOREST STATES. BY CONTRAST, FEDERAL LAW IMPOSES AN ANNUAL CAP ON FUNDING IN THE TERRITORIES. HISTORICALLY PUERTO RICO'S CAP WAS SO LOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAID LESS THAN 20% OF MEDICAID COSTS ON THE ISLAND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. INADEQUATE, TOTAL FUNDING HAVE MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR PUERTO RICO TO PROVIDE QUALITY HEALTH CARE TO ITS LOW-INCOME POPULATION. IF THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY WAS TO SAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY, IT WAS SHORTSIGHTED. BETWEEN 2005 AND 2009 OVER 300,000 PUERTO RICAN RESIDENTS MOVED TO THE STATES. MANY WERE MEN AND WOMEN OF LIMITED MEANS WHO UPON YOU MIGRATING IMMEDIATELY BECAME ELIGIBLE FOR FULL BENEFITS UNDER MEDICAID AND OTHER FEDERAL PROGRAMS. THE LAST CONGRESS MY FELLOW DELEGATES AND I FOUGHT HARD TO ENSURE OUR CONSTITUENTS WERE TREATED IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER IN THE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT. UNDER THE LAW, FUNDING FOR PUERTO RICO'S MEDICAID PROGRAM WILL TRIPLE OVER THE NEXT DECADE. THOUGH IT IS FAR LESS THAN PUERTO RICO WOULD RECEIVE IF TREATED LIKE A STATE, THIS INCREASED FUNDING DOES REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS PARITY. BUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT DID NOT ELIMINATE SERIOUS DISPARATES FACING MY CONSTITUENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, PUERTO RICO'S STILL SUBJECT TO UNEQUAL TREATMENT UNDER MEDICARE. ALTHOUGH ISLAND RESIDENTS PAY THE SAME PAYROLL TAXES AS THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS IN THE STATES, ILL-CONCEIVED FEDERAL FORMULAS PROVIDE LOWER MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT TO PUERTO RICO HOSPITALS. DESPITE THE PRESSING NEED TO CORRECT ALL THESE DISPARITIES, I KNOW THAT TO LEGISLATE EFFECTIVELY YOU MUST CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES WISELY, ESPECIALLY IN A FISCAL CLIMATE AS CHALLENGING AS THE ONE OUR COUNTRY FACES TODAY. THEREFORE, I HAVE INTRODUCED THREE HEALTH BILLS THAT WOULD CORRECT THIS UNPRINCIPLED INEQUALITY AND DO SO IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY. THE FIRST BILL ATTENDS THE HIGH TECH ACT WHICH PROVIDES PAYMENTS TO DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS THAT BECOME USERS OF ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORDS. THE ACT INADVERTENTLY EXCLUDE THE PUERTO RICO FROM THE MEDICARE PAYMENT AND MY BUDGET NEUTRAL BILL WOULD INCLUDE THEM. MY SECOND BILL WHICH HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT WOULD MODIFY A UNIQUE FEDERAL LAW THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PUERTO RICO SENIORS TO ENROLL IN MEDICARE PART B AND WOULD REDUCE THE PENALTIES FOR LATE ENROLLMENT. AND MY THIRD BILL WOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR TERRITORY MEDICAID PROGRAMS TO COVER BREAST AND CERVICAL CANCER TREATMENTS BY VOICING FEDERAL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THOSE SERVICES OUTSIDE THE ANNUAL CAP. SO, I HAVE FILED THIS THREE-COST CONSCIOUS BILLS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DISPARITIES WE ARE FACING AND I HOPE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES WHEN THE TIME COMES TO CONSIDER THEM. NOW, A WORD ABOUT THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS IN PUERTO RICO. I REPRESENT PUERTO RICO IN THIS CONGRESS, AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A CRISIS IN PUERTO RICO, I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT A CRISIS IN PUERTO RICO. IT IS THE HIGH INCIDENCE OF VIOLENT CRIME THAT IS TIED TO THE DRUG TRAFFICKING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CARIBBEAN. AND I FOR ONE AM DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. I'M SEEKING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BECAUSE IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF BOTH THE UNITED STATES AS A COUNTRY, AS A WHOLE AND PUERTO RICO TO INCREASE THE PRESENCE OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN PUERTO RICO. WHILE I WANT CIVIL RIGHTS TO BE PROTECTED OVER AMERICA, WHAT I AM DOING IS SUPPORTING THE ONGOING INVESTIGATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, BUT I AM NOT DENIGRATING THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE WHO PUT THEIR LIVES AT RISK TO DEFEND THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENRY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. FLEMING

    MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO MOURN THE LOSS OF TWO…

    MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO MOURN THE LOSS OF TWO LOUISIANA SOLDIERS FROM FORT POPE WHO RECENTLY DIED IN LOW GAR -- LOGAR PROVINCE IN AFGHANISTAN DURING OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM. STAFF SERGEANT MICHAEL GARCIA AND SERGEANT CHRISTOPHER SUTHERLAND MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE BY GIVING THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO THIS NATION. . IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT DECISION INVOLVING THE DEFENSE OF OUR NATION BECOMES MOST PERSONAL. INSTEAD OF THINKING IN ABSTRACT TERMS LIKE CASUALTY, WEAPONS, EQUIPMENT, WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH THE REALITY THAT THESE ARE NOT JUST SOLDIERS. THEY ARE IN FACT OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR SONS, FATHERS, BROTHERS. STAFF SERGEANT GARCIA AND SERGEANT SOUTHERLAND REPRESENTED THE VERY BEST AMERICA HAS TO OFFER. THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS SERVES AS AN ENDURING REMINDER THAT THE FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES WE HOLD SO DEAR ARE AFFORDED TO US ONLY BY THOSE WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM AND LOVED ONES WHO SUPPORT THEM. LET US PAUSE TODAY TO REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE THESE BRAVE SOLDIERS MADE ON BEHALF OF THIS GREAT NATION. AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. CONNOLLY

    SPEAKER, WE'RE TWO SHORT WEEKS AWAY FROM DEFAULTING ON AMERICAN DEBT WHICH…

    SPEAKER, WE'RE TWO SHORT WEEKS AWAY FROM DEFAULTING ON AMERICAN DEBT WHICH WOULD DEVASTATE OUR ECONOMY AND PLUNGE THIS COUNTRY, IF NOT THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, INTO A STEEP RECESSION. WE'RE ENGAGED IN THREE OVERSEAS WARS AS PART OF THE BROADER STRUGGLE TO DEFEAT TERRORISM. CENTURY OLD YOU A TO BE RASSIES ARE CRUMBLING IN THE MIDDLE EAST. EXTREME DROUGHT IS HURTING TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA WHILE FLOODS OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS INUNDATE THE UPPER MIDWEST. UNPRECEDENTED TORNADOES HAVE KILLED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN MISSOURI, ALABAMA AND VIRGINIA WHILE THE MELTING OF GLACIERS AND POLAR ICE. MEANWHILE, OUR ECONOMY STAGNATES WITH LACK OF ANY GROWTH. IN RESPONSE TO THESE EXOWE TENSION THREATS AT HOME AND AND ABROAD, THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BROAD FORTH A BILL A BAN ON INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS SIGNED BY A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT BUSH. THAT'S RIGHT, LIGHT BULBS. CONSORES OF INTERNET HEARSAY ARE AWARE OF THE TEA PARTY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS SAY THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IS TRYING TO OUTLAW THE INCAN -- INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB. FROM PHILLIPS TO JOHNSON CONTROLS ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE LIGHT BULB EFFICIENCY STANDARD BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OVER FOREIGN MANUFACTURERS WHO PRODUCE SHODDY, LIGHT-INEFFICIENT BULBS. WHO KNEW THAT THE TEA PARTY CONTAINED SO MANY SYMPATHIZERS WHO HIDDEN THEIR AGENDA INSIDE THE FOLDS OF THE DON'T THREAD ON ME FLAG. SOME ARE TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY. IT HAS LEFT THESE ZELLESTS WITH EXTRA DISPOSABLE INCOME AND THEY WANT TO SPEND IT ON INEFFICIENT LIGHT BULBS. IN FACT, REPEAL OF THE LIGHT BULB STANDARDS WOULD GIVE AMERICANS THE LIBERTY TO SPEND $85 EXTRA PER YEAR ON LIGHT BULBS TO PRODUCE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHT. IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW IDEOLOGUES IN THIS HOUSE CAN SUGGEST OPPOSING $85 PER YEAR ON THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN ORDER TO BUY LIGHT BULBS WHICH CONSUME MORE ELECTRICITY THAN NECESSARY. THOSE WHO ARE BAFFLED BY REPUBLICAN SUPPORT FOR THIS NEW INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB TAX MUST LOOK TO THE PAST FEW YEARS. THE REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES DEVIATED SO FAR FROM CONSERVATION THAT IT NOW SUPPORTS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE AIR AND WATER IMPUNITY. THE BULB ACT, WHICH WE DEALT WITH LIGHT -- LAST NIGHT, AND RETROAGREESES TO THE TIME OF THOMAS EDISON AND THE INVENTION OF THE LIGHT BULB. THEY MUST REALLY MEAN IT WHEN THEY CALL THEMSELVES ORIGINALISTS. THIS ENTIRE SITUATION WOULD BE HUMOROUS, BUT FOR THE GRAVITY OF THE THREAT OUR NATION FACES -- FROM CLIMATE CHANGE TO THE DEBT PUZZLE OR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WILL FORGO IN THE MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE OF THE ATTACK ON LIGHT BULBS. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. DUNCAN, FOR FIVE…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. DUNCAN, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DUNCAN

    MADAM SPEAKER, I REQUEST PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE AND TO REVISE AND…

    MADAM SPEAKER, I REQUEST PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE AND TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MR. DUNCAN

    MADAM SPEAKER, THERE IS MUCH DISCUSSION THESE DAYS ABOUT ETHANOL AND FOR…

    MADAM SPEAKER, THERE IS MUCH DISCUSSION THESE DAYS ABOUT ETHANOL AND FOR FAR TOO LONG THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZING ETHANOL PRODUCTION IN A VERY BIG WAY. THREE YEARS AGO "TIME" MAGAZINE CALLED ETHANOL ANOTHER ENERGY BIOFUEL THE CLEAN ENERGY SCAM. YET, THREE YEARS LATER WE ARE DUMPING MORE MONEY THAN EVER INTO THE PROGRAM. IT IS TIME TO ADMIT THAT THE ETHANOL PROGRAM HAS BEEN A FAILURE. A STUDY MENTIONED IN THE RECENT COLUMN IN "THE WASHINGTON TIMES" SAID THAT OUR ETHANOL POLICIES NOT CHANGE WOULD COST AMERICAN CONSUMERS MORE THAN $500 BILLION IN THE 10 YEARS FROM 2008 TO 2017. ACCORDING TO "TIME" MAGAZINE, THE BIOFUEL BOOM IS DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO. THE ARTICLE CALLS CORN ETHANOL ENVIRONMENTALLY DISASTROUS. WE WENT HEAVILY INTO ETHANOL BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE VERY POWERFUL ENVIRONMENTAL LOBBY PUSHED HARD ON THIS. NOW, WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT HAS DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD. EVEN TO THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT OR GOING TO INCREASE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THEIR ORGANIZATION. I HAVE AN EVEN THE GREATER CONCERN THAT HITS HOME WITH EVERY AMERICAN. THE ETHANOL PROGRAM IS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER. WE WERE PROMISED THAT USING ETHANOL TO FUEL CARS WOULD REDUCE GAS PRICES. WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION TODAY, GAS PRICES ARE CLOSE TO $4 A GALLON OR EVEN HIGHER IN SOME PLACES, AND WE ARE STILL AT THE MERCY OF FOREIGN PRODUCERS TO SUPPLY MOST OF OUR OIL. THE ONLY THING THE ETHANOL PROGRAM HAS DONE IS RAISE THE PRICE OF GROCERIES. HARDWORKING AMERICANS ARE PAYING MORE FOR MILK, NEEDS AND EVERYDAY ITEMS THEY NEED FROM THE GROCERY STORE. THIS IS BECAUSE THE PRICE OF CORN HAS DOUBLED IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS. IN 2009, CORN COST $3.30 A BUSHEL. TODAY IT COST ROUGHLY $7 A BUSHEL. WHEN THE PRICE OF CORN INCREASES IT CAUSES A CHAIN REACTION. CORN IS USED TO FEED LIVESTOCK WHICH INCREASES THE PRICE OF BEEF AND DAIRY PRODUCTS. CORN SYRUP IS FOUND IN EVERYTHING FROM CEREAL TO SALAD DRESSING. NEARLY EVERYTHING AT THE GROCERY STORE COSTS MORE TODAY THAN IT DID JUST ONE YEAR AGO. TO TURN CORN INTO ETHANOL IT FAKES DIESEL FUEL TO RUN THE MACHINES, FERTILIZER AND MONTHS OF HARD WORK FROM FARMERS. A STUDY BY CORNELL UNIVERSITY ESTIMATES THAT IT COST $4.50 TO PRODUCE ONE GALLON OF ETHANOL. A GALLON OF PURE ETHANOL HAS ONLY ABOUT 2/3 THE ENERGY OF A GALLON OF GASOLINE. YET, A LOT OF THINGS WE TEND TO DO IN -- LIKE A LOT OF THINGS WE TEND TO DO HERE IN WASHINGTON, THE COST IS TOO HIGH AND AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT. IN 2010 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENT NEARLY $8 BILLION TO SUBSIDIZE ETHANOL PROGRAM. THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO $12 BILLION WHEN YOU COUNT MONEY FROM STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS CORN SHOULD BE USED TO FUEL OUR BODIES, NOT OUR CARS. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TELL BUT A FRIEND OF MINE, HARRY. HARRY IS THE OWNER OF HIS FARM COMPANY. THE FAMILY STARTED THIS COMPANY IN 1937 AND IS ONE OF THE GREAT SMALL BUSINESS SUCCESS STORIES IN MY DISTRICT. HOWEVER, IN 2010, THE SAUSAGE FARM LOST MONEY FOR THE FIRST TIME. THEY ARE NOW LOSING MONEY EVERY MONTH. THEY ARE NOT LOSING MONEY BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE NO LONGER A GREAT COMPANY. THEY ARE LOSING MONEY BECAUSE THE COST OF RAW MATERIALS IS FAR TOO HIGH. INSTEAD OF PAYING 35 CENTS A POUND FOR HOGS LIKE THEY DID IN 2009, THEY PAY MORE THAN 50 CENTS A POUND, MORE THAN 40% INCREASE IN JUST TWO YEARS. 40% INCREASE IN TWO YEARS. TO KEEP UP MEAT PRODUCERS LIKE WAMPLER, THEY ARE FORCED TO RAISE PRICES IN THE GROCERY STORE. THE STUDY I MENTIONED EARLIER BY CORNELL ESTIMATED THAT IN 2009 ONE-THIRD OF U.S. CORN WAS USED TO MAKE ETHANOL. THAT IS A LOT OF CORN, BUT IT ONLY REDUCED AMERICA'S OIL CONSUMPTION BY 1.4%. IN FACT, IF WE WERE TO TAKE ALL OF THE CORN PRODUCED AND TURN IT INTO ETHANOL, IT WOULD REPLACE 4% OIL CONSUMPTION. IN THIS COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD WE ARE DESTROYING FORESTS, WETLANDS AND GRASSLANDS TO MAKE ROOM TO PLANT MORE CORN. THE PROGRAM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE ECONOMY OR THE ENVIRONMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS FORCED ON US PRIMARILY BY VIRMALISTS. A LOT OF POLITICIANS ARE AFRAID TO ADMIT THE ETHANOL PROGRAM WAS A MISTAKE BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID TO DEFEND THE FARM LOBBY AND ANYONE CONSIDERING RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT MAY BE AFRAID TO OFFEND CORN FARMERS IN IOWA. BUT, MADAM SPEAKER, WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO WASTE MONEY ON THIS PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT WORK. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, MS. NORTON, FOR FIVE…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, MS. NORTON, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. NORTON

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I COME TO THE FLOOR TO ALERT MEMBERS WHO…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I COME TO THE FLOOR TO ALERT MEMBERS WHO INTERFERE WITH THE LOCAL FUNDS OF A LOCAL JURISDICTION NOT YOUR OWN. IN THIS CASE THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. THIS YEAR IT WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED IN YOUR OWN DISTRICT. THE DEBT LIMIT DISCUSSION SPOTLIGHT DIFFERENCES, BUT ONE IDEA ALWAYS HAS ENJOYED THE BROADEST SUPPORT IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS HOUSE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH LOCAL MATTERS, ESPECIALLY LOCAL FUPPEDS UNDER NOT RAISED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- FUNDS NOT RAISED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME MATTERS OF OVERARCHING CONCERN THAT COULD BE ARBITRATED ONLY BY A TRUE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT BUT THEY WERE AT GREAT PAINS TO RESERVE MAXIMUM FREEDOM AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. NOTHING IS MORE LOCAL THAN LOCAL FUNDS A JURISDICTION RAISES ON ITS OWN BY LOCAL TAXPAYERS. YOU RAISE THE FUNDS, YOU GET TO SAY HOW THEY WILL BE SPENT. THE PRINCIPLE APRICE TO ALL. NO SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS ON LOCAL MATTERS, ESPECIALLY LOCAL FUNDS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE 600,000 RESIDENTS OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. CONGRESS CEDED ITS POWER TO RUN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA IN 1973 WHEN IT PASSED THE HOME RULE ACT. IT STILL APPROVES THE D.C. BUDGET BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE THAT BUDGET. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS UNACCOUNTABLE TO THE ELECTORATE OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA HAVE NO RIGHT TO USE THE BUDGET PROCESS TO DIRECT SPENDING AWAY FROM MATTERS THAT MAY BE CONTROVERSIAL TO YOU BUT NOT TO OUR OWN LOCAL JURISDICTION. THAT IS TEA PARTY DOCTRINE, THAT IS A PRINCIPLE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. LICENSE WAS TAKEN TO PUT CONTROVERSIAL ATTACHMENTS ON THE 2011 BUDGET DEAL, AND THE WORLD WATCHED AS THE ENTIRE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HERE WERE ARRESTED IN AN ACT OF CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. THIS TIME A COALITION OF NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS WITH MILLIONS OF MEMBERS ARE TAKING PREVENTATIVE ACTION, AND I QUOTE FROM A LETTER ALL OF YOU SHALL RECEIVE. SHOULD LAWMAKERS CONTINUE TO ADVANCE ATTACKS ON D.C.'S ATONOMY WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY MEMBER IN EVERY DISTRICT KNOW HOW THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME IN WASHINGTON, MEDDLING IN THE AFFAIRS OF D.C. RESIDENTS RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON THE NATION'S PRESSING BUSINESS. MEDDLE WITH D.C. LOCAL FUNDS, WE WILL PULL THE COVERS OFF IN YOUR OWN DISTRICTS. CONGRESS THIS YEAR, DON'T TREAD ON D.C. THANK YOU, MAMENTS. I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.

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    MR. BROUN

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THIS DEBT CEILING IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE DEJA VU. IF…

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THIS DEBT CEILING IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE DEJA VU. IF YOU THINK BACK TO 1990, PRESIDENT GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH AGREED TO $2 IN SPENDING CUTS FOR EVERY $1 IN TAX HIKES. HE AGREED TO THIS WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING. ALL OF THE DEMOCRATS' TAX HIKES WENT INTO EFFECT, BUT THE PROMISED SPENDING CUTS NEVER MATERIALIZED. WE CANNOT FALL FOR THIS TRICK AGAIN, AND THAT'S THE SAME TRICK THAT WE SEE FROM THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE, MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES AND THE PRESIDENT. HIGH TAXES DO NOT LEAD TO MORE GOVERNMENT REVENUE. WE'VE SEEN PROOF OF THIS IN YEARS PAST. INSTEAD OF RAISING TAXES, LET'S LEAVE MONEY IN THE HANDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES, JOB CREATORS SO THEY CAN CREATE JOBS. MORE JOBS MEANS MORE REVENUE AND LESS DEFICIT. . HIGHER TAXES MEANS MORE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK AN HIGHER DEBT. IN FACT PRESIDENT OBAMA ADMITTED IN 2009 THAT, QUOTE, THE LAST THING THAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION IS TO RAISE TAXES, UNQUOTE. IN THE PAST LIBERALS IN CONGRESS HAVE ADAMANTLY SPOKEN OUT IN OPPOSITION TO DEBT CEILING INCREASES. THIS SENATOR OBAMA SAID IN 2006 THAT, QUOTE, A DEBT LIMIT INCREASE WAS A SIGN OF LEADERSHIP FAILURE, UNQUOTE. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. IT'S A TIME FOR LAWMAKERS TO STOP TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTHS AND DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ECONOMY, FOR OUR NATION, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WE HAVE RAISED THE DEBT CEILING 16 TIMES . IT HASN'T WORKED. AND NOW WE ARE AT THE END OF THAT ROAD. WE NEED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ACTUALLY PAYING DOWN OUR ENORMOUS DEBT. WE MUST GET OUR COUNTRY ON AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE COURSE AND CREATE JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THAT'S WHY I HAVE INTRODUCED H.R. 2409, THE DEBT CEILING REDUCTION ACT, WHICH WOULD LOWER THE DEBT CEILING TO $13 TRILLION. AND THAT WOULD FORCE POLITICIANS IN WASHINGTON TO MAKE THE CUTS TO OUR BUDGET THAT OUR ECONOMY SO DESPERATELY NEEDS AND START FIGURING OUT HOW TO PAY OFF THIS UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT THAT WE HAVE CREATED. MR. SPEAKER, MADAM SPEAKER, I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WILL CO-SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO BOTH CREATE JOBS AND TO CREATE A STRONG ECONOMY. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, FOR FIVE…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:47:11 AM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. AND I WISH TO THIS MORNING RAISE…

    LEE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. AND I WISH TO THIS MORNING RAISE CONCERNS THAT ARE INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC. I RISE TODAY TO ASK THE QUESTION WHEN WILL DR. ASSAD, THE PRESIDENT OF SYRIA, BEGIN TO ACT IN A MANNER THAT RESPECTS THE HUMAN DIGNITY OF THE PEOPLE OF SYRIA? IT IS A TRAGEDY TO WATCH AS THE -- TO SEE ONE COUNTRY THAT, ONE, HAD HOPED WOULD REALIZE THAT A CIVILIZED GOVERNMENT RESPECTS THE DIGNITY OF ITS PEOPLE. SYRIAN AMERICANS ARE CRYING OUT AND REACHING OUT TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND LEADERS ACROSS THE NATION TO ATTACK THIS HORRIFIC VIOLENCE THAT IS OCCURRING IN SYRIA. THE MUTILATION OF A 13-YEAR-OLD BOY, THE SLAUGHTER OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE STREET, AND SEEMINGLY THE ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THIS NATION. MANY OF US HAVE THOUGHT THAT DR. ASSAD, THE SON OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THE 21ST CENTURY DOES NOT IN ANY WAY TOLERATE THE KIND OF ABUSIVE AND OPPRESSIVE LEADERSHIP THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST. AND THAT IT IS HIGH TIME FOR THE LEADERSHIP TO BE VESTED IN THE PEOPLE. NOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A CONSTANT TENSION AND BRUTALITY AS IT RELATES TO ISRAEL AND THE BORDER AND HEZBOLLAH. SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AND THAT I HAVE CRIED OUT OVER AND OVER THAT THE DOMINANCE OF HEZBOLLAH AND SYRIA MUST CEASE AS WELL FOR ANY ENTITY THAT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE EXISTENCE OF ANY OTHER STATE, NO MATTER WHAT THE STATE, AND IN THIS INSTANCE ISRAEL IS AN ABSOLUTE ABOMINATION. BUT NOW IN AMERICAN VERNACULAR THEY ADDED INSULT TO INJURY, KILLING THEIR PEOPLE, BLOOD IN THE STREETS, IGNORING THE NATIONAL CALLS. SO I'M GRATIFIED FOR THE STANCE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AND I WANT IT TO BE A STRONGER STANCE, A STRONGER POSITION. HOW DARE YOU ATTACK THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY. HOW DARE YOU VIOLATE INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT ALLOWS SOVEREIGN NATIONS TO EXIST PEACEFULLY IN SOVEREIGN NATIONS. HOW DARE YOU CONFRONT THE UNITED STATES FLAG, UNITED STATES MILITARY. HOW DARE YOU VIOLATE THE HUMAN DIGNITY OF YOUR PEOPLE. SO I'M CALLING UPON WORLD LEADERS AND THE UNITED NATIONS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ADHERING TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE, TO DENOUNCE THE ACTIONS OF PRESIDENT ASSAD, DENOUNCE THE ACTIONS OF THOSE VIOLENT AND ABUSIVE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS WHO ARE KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE. AND LISTEN TO SYRIAN AMERICANS WHO HAVE ASKED FOR A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION. NO, WE ARE NOT CALLING FOR WAR. TRAGEDIES IN YEMEN WHERE THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO STEP DOWN. THE CONFLICTS IN LIBYA WHERE THE PRESIDENT REFUSES TO STEP DOWN. DIFFICULTIES IN EGYPT. AND ON AND ON AND ON. BUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THAT REGION, WE SHOULD TAKE HEART IN AMERICA THAT THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CREATE A DEMOCRATIC COMMUNITY AND NATION OF STATES. THE ARAB LEAGUE NEEDS TO SPEAK AND WE NEED TO DENOUNCE THE PRESIDENT AND ASK HIM, OF SYRIA, TO STEP DOWN. THAT LEADS ME TO AMERICA'S ROLE, MADAM SPEAKER, IN THIS CRISIS THAT HAS NOW BEEN MADE BY OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS. TO MY COLLEAGUES, AMERICA IS NOT BROKE. WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME POSTURE OF SOME OF OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS, BUT WE ARE IN THE RIDICULOUS POSTURE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT FAMILIES WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET DON'T ALSO ATTEMPT TO SEEK REVENUES, A NEW JOB, OR A RAISE, OR MULTIPLE JOBS, HOW MANY OF OUR FAMILIES ARE DOING THAT? NO, WE ARE NOT RAISING TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, WE ARE IN FACT TRYING TO ESTABLISH A QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN PROTECTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID AND MEDICARE. DON'T LAUGH AT THOSE. THOSE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS ALLOWED SENIOR CITIZENS TO LIVE. IT HAS ALLOWED OUR 4079S TO STAY OPEN -- HOSPITALS TO STAY OPEN, OUR DOCTORS TO WORK. YET WE HAVE IN THE OTHER BODY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A LUDICROUS PROPOSAL, ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. IT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE ANYBODY ANY RELIEF. LET THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SIGN OFF ON THE DEBT CEILING. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TESTED WHETHER THAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL. IN FACT, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE DEBT CEILING ITSELF IS CONSTITUTIONAL. AND SO I AM ARGUING AND BEGGING FOR --

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  • 10:52:25 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 10:52:27 AM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: OF LEADERS OF CONSCIOUSNESS TO SIT DOWN AND WORK ON WE HALF -- BEHALF…

    LEE: OF LEADERS OF CONSCIOUSNESS TO SIT DOWN AND WORK ON WE HALF -- BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. STOP THE FOOLISHNESS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:52:34 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

  • 12:01:14 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED TODAY BY OUR…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED TODAY BY OUR CHAPLAIN, FATHER CONROY.

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  • 12:02:47 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    HAS EXAMINED THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO…

    HAS EXAMINED THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE HOUSE HIS ATROLVE THEREOF AND PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1 OF RULE 1, THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY WILL BE LED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY.

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  • 12:03:05 PM

    MR. QUIGLEY

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE…

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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  • 12:03:18 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN UP TO 15 ONE-MINUTE REQUESTS. FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN UP TO 15 ONE-MINUTE REQUESTS. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 12:03:26 PM

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 12:03:37 PM

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND RISE?

  • 12:04:53 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND RISE?

  • 12:04:57 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:05:01 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:05:03 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE DR. PATRICIA FLANAGAN.…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE DR. PATRICIA FLANAGAN. AN EXPERT IN TEENAGE PARENTING AND ADOLESCENT MEDICINE. SHE REEVELY -- RECENTLY RECEIVED THE 2011 SILVER RATTLE AWARD FOR HER YEARS OF LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO RHODE ISLAND'S TEEN MOTHERS AND CHILDREN. DR. FLANAGAN IS RATTLING THE SYSTEM WITH HER GROUNDBREAKING IDEAS AND SERVICE TO HASBRO CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL COMMUNITY. SHE SERVES AS THE CHIEF OF CLINICAL AFFAIRS AT HASBRO AND A PROLVESER OF PEDIATRICS AT BROWN UNIVERSITY. AS DIRECTOR OF THE TEENS AT THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, SHE LEADS THE TEAM IN PROVIDING SOCIAL AND MEDICAL SERVICES TO THEIR 300 TEEN MOTHERS AND THEIR CHILDREN. FOLLOWING THEIR LIVES FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS. TODAY I'M PLEASED TO CONGRATULATE DR. PATRICIA FLANAGAN FOR HER GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FIELD OF MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH, AS A PEDIATRICIAN, A RESEARCHER, A TEACHER AND AN ADVOCATE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:06:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA RISE?

  • 12:06:08 PM

    MR. BURTON

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, TO REVISE AND…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 12:06:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:06:15 PM

    MR. BURTON

    SPEAKER, TODAY THE FED CHAIRMAN, MR. BERNANKE, IS INDICATING THAT THEY'RE…

    SPEAKER, TODAY THE FED CHAIRMAN, MR. BERNANKE, IS INDICATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE MONEY SUPPLY AGAIN. THEY CALL IT QE-3. BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO PRINT MORE MONEY AND WHEN THEY PRINT MORE MONEY THAT MAKES THE VALUE OF YOUR DOLLAR AND YOUR CURRENCY WORTH LESS. THAT MEANS MILK IS GOING TO COST MORE, BREAD IS GOING TO COST MORE BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S NOT LIVING WITHIN ITS MEANS AND THEY'RE GOING TO PRINT MORE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ALL OF OUR CURRENCY WORTH LESS. I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS. IN HUNGARY IN 1946 THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING DOUBLED EVERY 16 HOURS. IN YUGOSLAVIA IN 1994 THE PRICES DOUBLED EVERY 34 HOURS. IN GERMANY IN 1923 THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING DOUBLED EVERY FOUR DAYS. IN GREECE IN 1944 IT DOUBLED EVERY FOUR DAYS. IN ZIMBABWE IN 2008 IT DOUBLED EVERY 24 HOURS. WE NEED TO STOP THIS PRINTING OF MONEY. WE NEED TO CONTROL SPENDING IN THIS BODY INSTEAD OF LETTING THE FED PRINT MORE MONEY WHICH IS A HIDDEN TAX ON EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:07:24 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISE?

  • 12:07:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:07:32 PM

    MR. COHEN

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR NATION AND OUR WORLD IS AT AN ECONOMIC CROSSROADS…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR NATION AND OUR WORLD IS AT AN ECONOMIC CROSSROADS WITH THE DEBT CEILING NEEDED TO BE RAISED BY THE SECOND OF AUGUST. FORTUNATELY I THINK SOME COMMON SENSE APPEARS TO BE COMING FROM THE SENATE, FROM SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL. THE IDEA OF SURRENDERING BUT CLAIMING VICTORY. MORE NOBLE THAN ADMITTING DEFEAT. AND MUCH MORE NOBLE THAN PUTTING THIS NATION AND THE WORLD ON AN ECONOMIC PRECIPICE, ALL BASED UPON THE RESISTANCE OF PUTTING TAX INCREASES ON THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES IN THIS NATION. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BENEFITED AND HAVEN'T HURT ONE IOTA ARE BEING TOLD BY THE REPUBLICANS THAT THEY WILL NOT AGREE TO A COMPROMISE IF IT CAUSES AN INCREASE IN TAXES FOR THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. THOSE TAX BREAKS FROM THE BUSH YEARS THAT HELPED CAUSE THIS DEBT PROBLEM AND CAUSED THE RECESSION. SO I PRAISE SENATOR MCCONNELL FOR CLAIMING VICTORY IN SURRENDERING IN A NOBLE WAY AND KEEPING OUR ECONOMY. HOPEFULLY THIS PROJECT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND SAVE US FROM HAVING A CATASTROPHIC WALL STREET AND BOND MARKET COLLAPSE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 12:08:40 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA RISE?

  • 12:08:45 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:08:50 PM

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    SPEAKER. IN SPITE OF THE EMPTY RHETORIC OF POLITICIANS WHO PROMISE NOW AND…

    SPEAKER. IN SPITE OF THE EMPTY RHETORIC OF POLITICIANS WHO PROMISE NOW AND PAY LATER, NOT EVEN THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN RUN FROM THE SIMPLE PRINCIPLES OF ECONOMICS. WHEN A FAMILY CONTINUES TO SPEND MORE THAN THEY MAKE, DEBT WILL CRUSH THEM. IT WILL STRAIN THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AND CONSUME THEIR THOUGHTS. PARENTS LOOK AT THEIR CHILDREN AND WONDER HOW THEY WILL AFFORD COLLEGE. MOTIVATED BY THEIR LOVE, MOM AND DAD PULL OUT THE CHECKBOOK, THEY GO TO THE KITCHEN TABLE AND THEY MAKE A PLAN. WHAT ARE WE SPENDING NOW, HOW CAN WE SPEND LESS, WHERE CAN WE MAKE DO AND HOW CAN WE PUT US BACK IN THE BLACK? MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S CALLED A BUDGET. IT WORKS IN INDIANA AND IF IT WORKS WELL ENOUGH FOR US HOOSIERS IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S BEEN OVER 800 DAYS SIPS THE SENATE EVEN PASSED A BUDGET. MR.

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  • 12:09:35 PM

    MR. STUTZMAN

    BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE BLAME FOR RUNNING US INTO THE…

    BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE BLAME FOR RUNNING US INTO THE RED. A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT HOWEVER OUGHT TO GIVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT -- GET BIPARTISAN SUPPORT HERE IN WASHINGTON. NOW IS THE TIME FOR ACTION. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:09:48 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

  • 12:09:53 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

  • 12:09:56 PM

    MR. QUIGLEY

    TODAY THE HOUSE WILL TAKE UP THE SO-CALLED CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE…

    TODAY THE HOUSE WILL TAKE UP THE SO-CALLED CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT, A BILL THAT WOULD MORE APTLY BE NAMED THE DIRTY WATER ACT. RARELY DOES THIS BODY SO BLATANTLY ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE AND MISINFORM THAN THE CASE OF A BILL THAT IS IN NEITHER SPIRIT NOR PRACTICE SEEK CLEANER WATER. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD RENDER THE E.P.A. TOOTHLESS TO ENFORCE THE CLEAN WATER ACT. GIVING POLLUTERS A BREAK FROM CLEAN WATER STANDARDS. AND MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE YARM CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO RECEIVE -- ARMY CORM OF ENGINEERS TO RECEIVE CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE -- CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO RECEIVE ADVICE. IT WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE E.P.A. TO ADJUST CLEAN WATER STANDARDS ACCORDINGLY IF NEW SCIENCE EMERGES. AND APPROPRIATELY ANTISCIENCE PROVISION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE PROMOTED A HEAD IN THE SAND ATTITUDE TORE ADDRESSING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. WE CANNOT -- TOWARD ADDRESSING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. WE CANNOT STAND BY QUIETLY DURING THIS ATTEMPT TO LOWER WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND I HOPE THIS BODY DOES NOT FALL FOR THE DIRTY WATER ACT. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:10:59 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

  • 12:11:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:11:07 PM

    MR. SIRES

    MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE NOW IN WEEK NUMBER 27 OF THE REPUBLICAN NO JOBS…

    MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE NOW IN WEEK NUMBER 27 OF THE REPUBLICAN NO JOBS AGENDA. IT IS APPARENT THAT AFTER LAST WEEK'S DISAPPOINTING JOBS REPORT THE JOB GROWTH SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. BUT MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE SEEM TO HAVE NOT RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE. SINCE JANUARY 1 NOT A SINGLE BILL FOCUSED ON JOB CREATION HAS COME TO THE FLOOR. INSTEAD THE MAJORITY HAS CHOSEN TO FOCUS ON LEGISLATION THAT WILL ROLL BACK ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS, CLEAN WATER PROTECTION AND HEALTH CARE IMPROVEMENT. NOW THE MAJORITY'S TRYING TO HOLD THE ECONOMY HOSTAGE, THEY'RE REFUSING TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING UNLESS WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE BREAKS FOR BIG OIL AND COMPANIES THAT SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON AN AGENDA THAT BALANCES THE BUDGETS ON THE BACKS OF AMERICA'S MIDDLE CLASS AND SENIORS, THIS CONGRESS NEEDS TO FOCUS ON A PLAN THAT WILL PUT AMERICA BACK TO WORK. MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES AND I LAUNCHED AN AMBITIOUS MAKE IT IN AMERICA AGENDA THAT WILL BUILD OUR MANUFACTURING BASE, CREATE JOBS AND POSITION US FOR LONG-TERM ECONOMIC COMPETITION. MR. SPEAKER, THE MILLIONS OF UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS NEED US TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A VIABLE SOLUTION TO JOB GROWTH AND REBUILD OUR ECONOMY.

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  • 12:12:17 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA RISE?

  • 12:12:20 PM

    >>

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 12:12:26 PM

    MR. WALZ

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

  • 12:13:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

  • 12:13:30 PM

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:13:34 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:13:36 PM

    >>

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IT IS WITH DEEP REGRET THAT I RISE TODAY TO…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IT IS WITH DEEP REGRET THAT I RISE TODAY TO INFORM THE HOUSE OF THE PASSING OF OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE AND MY DEAR GOOD FRIEND, FRANK MASCARA. HE PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS WEEK AND WILL BE LAID TO REST TOMORROW IN WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. FRANK DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO PUBLIC SERVICE, SERVING AS COUNTY CONTROLLER IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, FOLLOWED BY 15 YEARS AS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. HE THEN SERVED WITH DISTINCTION IN THIS BODY FROM 1995 TO 2003 WHERE HE DEDICATED HIS CAREER TO WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO HIS DISTRICT BUT THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA AND ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

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  • 12:14:14 PM

    MR. HOLDEN

    WILL TRULY BE MISSED AND WE EXTEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO HIS WIFE…

    WILL TRULY BE MISSED AND WE EXTEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO HIS WIFE AND HIS CHILDREN. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 12:14:24 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS RISE?

  • 12:14:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:14:31 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I THANK MY GOOD FRIEND, THE SPEAKER, AND I AM DELIGHTED TO STAND THIS…

    I THANK MY GOOD FRIEND, THE SPEAKER, AND I AM DELIGHTED TO STAND THIS MORNING AND SIMPLY ASK A QUESTION. WHERE ARE THE JOBS? AND WHY HAVE WE BEEN HERE FOR SOME 27 WEEKS AND WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE? LET ME DEVIATE FOR A MOMENT AND SAY THE DEBT CEILING THAT HAS CONSUMED US IS A PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE YEARS AND DECADES OF PRESIDENTS, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. SO LET'S NOT CASTIGATE PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SAY, A DEAL WILL NOT BE MADE BECAUSE HE'S HERE. LET'S LOOK AT WAYS OF FINDING JOBS. THE ENERGY INDUSTRY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A PROGRAM THAT SAYS VETERANS TO JOBS, ENERGY JOBS. LET'S HAVE YOUTH TO JOBS, 18 TO 35, ENERGY JOBS. AND BEGIN TO CREATE THE JOBS THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR, PUTTING ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE JOB CREATION. LET'S HAVE THE ENERGY INDUSTRY BROADLY LOOK AT A TAX STRUCTURE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AND INVESTS BACK IN AMERICA. AND LET'S REALIZE THAT THE VULNERABLE CAN BE THE BRUNT OF OUR CONFUSION ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING. THIS IS NOT A FIGHT THAT WE NEED ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HERE IS A JOB AND WE ARE STANDING ON THIS FLOOR 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO CREATE JOBS. MR. SPEAKER, NOW IS THE TIME FOR JOBS. I YIELD BACK. .

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  • 12:15:54 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION,…

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:16:01 PM

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    HAVE BAN IN CHARGE OF THIS HOUSE AND THEY HAVE NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE JOBS…

    HAVE BAN IN CHARGE OF THIS HOUSE AND THEY HAVE NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE JOBS BILL TO THE FLOOR.

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  • 12:16:06 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    REPEALING HEALTH CARE REFORM AND DISMANTLING EVEN THE MOST BASIC OF…

    REPEALING HEALTH CARE REFORM AND DISMANTLING EVEN THE MOST BASIC OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. REPUBLICANS HAVE BROUGHT US SO FAR DOWN THE PATH OF MASS DEREGULATION THAT EVEN THE MOST BASIC SAFEGUARDS ARE UNDER THREAT. THEY BROUGHT FORTH LEGISLATION TO REPEAL LIGHT BULB EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AND STILL FIGHTING AGAINST ESSENTIAL CLEAN WATER REGULATION. THE REALITY IS BOTH THESE EFFORTS WILL KILL JOBS AND HURT INNOVATION. BUT THE REPUBLICANS SEEM PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE STICKING TO THE RHETORIC OF ANTI-REGULATION, REGARDLESS OF WHOM IT HARMS. WE HAVE GONE SO FAR DOWN THIS PATH THAT THE ANTI-TAX OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY IS NOW BRINGING THE DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS TO A TERRIBLE BRINK OF CATASTROPHE. THEY WOULD RATHER PRESERVE TAX BREAKS FOR THEIR CORPORATE JET OWNERS AND OIL COMPANIES THAN TO COMPROMISE ON A PLAN THAT WILL BENEFIT THE MIDDLE CLASS IN AMERICA BY BETTER DISTRIBUTING THAT TAX BURDEN. IT'S WRONG. LET'S COME TO THE TABLE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:17:12 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? WITHOUT…

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION SO RECOGNIZED. MISS--

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  • 12:17:23 PM

    MS. CHU

    LAST WEEK, THE NATION HEARD UNEMPLOYMENT IS UP 9.2%. BUT THE AMERICAN…

    LAST WEEK, THE NATION HEARD UNEMPLOYMENT IS UP 9.2%. BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T NEED REPORTS TO TELL THEM WHAT THEY KNOW THAT JOB GROWTH SHOULD BE CONGRESS' TOP PRIORITY. BUT THE REPUBLICANS STILL AREN'T GETTING THE MESSAGE. IT'S BEEN 27 WEEKS SINCE THEY TOOK CONTROL AND THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO CREATE JOBS. IN FACT, THEY HAVEN'T PUT A SINGLE JOBS BILL TO A VOTE. INSTEAD, THEY ARE THREATENING A LOSS OF COUNTLESS MORE AMERICAN JOBS BY BRINGING THE DEBT CEILING TALKS TO THE BRINK OF ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE. THEY ARE HOLDING AMERICA'S ECONOMY AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOSTAGE TO THEIR AGENDA OF TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND LOOPHOLES THAT HELP MEGACORPORATIONS. WE NEED HOUSE LEADERS LOOKING OUT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND CREATING JOBS NOT CUTTING THEM. WE NEED STRONG HOUSE LEADERS WHO WILL PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT CORPORATE INTERESTS.

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  • 12:18:16 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

  • 12:18:20 PM

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:18:24 PM

    MR. POLIS

    THERE ARE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH OUR NATION'S BUDGET…

    THERE ARE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH OUR NATION'S BUDGET DEFICIT. AND WHILE WE NEED TO MAKE THE TOP CUTS AS PART OF THE PACKAGE, WE ALSO NEED NEW REVENUES, ONE IDEA FOR NEW REVENUES WOULD BE TO REGULATE AND TAX MARIJUANA AND HEMP ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 15 STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA HAVE VARIOUS DEGREES OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA OR LEGALIZED MARIJUANA. RATHER THAN HAVE ANY TAXES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT PRODUCES INCOME, WE EFFECTIVELY HAVE 100% TAX. IT'S CONFISCATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF DISCOVERED. BY REDUCING THE TAX RATE TO BE IN LINE WITH ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO, WE WILL GENERATE TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR REVENUE TO HE LEE DUES THE DEFICIT AND IT WON'T MAKE MARIJUANA OR HEMP LEGAL IN ANY JURISDICTION IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY ILLEGAL. IT WILL SIMPLY COLLECT REVENUE FROM THE STATES THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO GO THE ROUTE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND CREATE REVENUE FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO BRING TO THE TABLE AS PART OF THIS DEAL. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT REDUCING THE MARIJUANA TAX. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:19:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

  • 12:19:34 PM

    MS. SPEIER

    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:19:38 PM

    MS. SANCHEZ

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ON OCTOBER 15 OF 2009, I RECEIVED DISTURBING REPORTS…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ON OCTOBER 15 OF 2009, I RECEIVED DISTURBING REPORTS THAT A DEMOCRACY ACTIVIST, TRAN TAI TAN TUI AND HER HUSBAND WERE BEATEN IN FRONT OF THEIR 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. AND IMPRISONED BY THE VIETNAMESE POLICE AND GOVERNMENT. AND SINCE THEN I ALONG WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE HOUSE HAVE WRITTEN COUNTLESS LETTERS TO THE VIETNAMESE GOVERNMENT URGING THE GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE MRS. TRAN. I HAVE ALSO ENGAGED IN DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH SECRETARY CLINTON STRONGLY ADVOCATING THAT THE UNITED STATES PUT PRESSURE ON THE GOVERNMENT OF VIETNAM TO RELEASE HER AND SO MANY OTHER ACTIVISTS WHO SIMPLY WANT HUMAN RIGHTS TO IMPROVE. IN VIETNAM. FORTUNATELY LAST MONTH THANKS TO THE WORK OF HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, MRS. TRAN WAS RELEASED AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO BRING MRS. TRAN TO THE UNITED STATES. WHERE SHE NOW RESIDES WITH HER DAUGHTER. MRS. TRAN ALONG WITH OTHER ACTIVISTS --

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  • 12:20:46 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 12:20:48 PM

    MS. SANCHEZ

    I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE HELP US WITH THIS ISSUE. I YIELD BACK.

  • 12:20:55 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE. REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, IS HE RECOGNIZED.

  • 12:21:05 PM

    MR. TONKO

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT JOBS. MY HOME DISTRICT, THE…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT JOBS. MY HOME DISTRICT, THE CAPITAL REGION OF NEW YORK, IS A LEADER IN CLEAN ENERGY JOBS, BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION RECENTLY COMPLETED A STUDY THAT FOUND THE CAPITAL REGION HAS THE LARGEST SHARE OF GREEN JOBS IN THE COUNTRY. OVER 6%. THAT'S OVER 28,000 GREEN JOBS. AND NOT ONLY IS THE REGION GROWING NOW, IT IS POISED FOR GROWTH IN THE FUTURE. WHETHER AT ALBANY NANOTECH, G.E., PLUG POWER, OR GLOBAL FOUNDRIES, THE CAPITAL REGION IS PRODUCING THE HIGH-TECH MANUFACTURING JOBS OF TODAY AND TOMORROW. THIS DOESN'T JUST IMPACT OUR DOMESTIC ECONOMY. ALONG WITH L.A., NEW YORK, AND SAN FRANCISCO, ALBANY IS THE ONLY OTHER METRO AREA CONTRIBUTING $1 BILLION ANNUALLY IN THE CLEAN EXPORT ECONOMY. WE CAN MAKE IT IN AMERICA. WE CAN MANUFACTURE THE BEST PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD HERE AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT GROWS JOBS AND REBUILDS OUR ECONOMY. THE REAL QUESTION IS, DOES THIS CONGRESS BELIEVE WE ARE WORTHY OF THAT INVESTMENT? I THINK WE ARE. LET'S INVEST IN JOBS FOR AMERICA AND IN SO DOING LET'S CUT THE DEFICIT. THIS REPORT FROM BROOKINGS INSTITUTION PROVES IT. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO RECOGNIZED.

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    YESTERDAY I STOOD ON THIS FLOOR WITH THREE WEEKS TO GO BEFORE AUGUST…

    YESTERDAY I STOOD ON THIS FLOOR WITH THREE WEEKS TO GO BEFORE AUGUST SECOND, THE DEBT CEILING, TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT WE SHOULD ABIDE BY THE COMMITMENTS WE HAVE MADE IN THE PAST. TODAY I HEARD CHAIRMAN BERNANKE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SAY THAT TO FAIL TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING WOULD BE DEVASTATING FOR JOBS. WHAT'S THE HOLD UP? DON'T TAKE IT FROM ME. LET ME READ YOU A PARAGRAPH FROM THE ECONOMIST MAGAZINE, THIS IS NOT MOTHER JONES, NOT THE NEW YORK TIMES, THIS IS THE MIIST MAGAZINE. THE STICKING POINT IS NOT ON THE SPENDING SIDE. IT IS BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS DRIVEN ON BY THE WILD-EYED MEMBERS OF THEIR PARTY ARE CLINGING TO THE POSITION THAT NOT A SINGLE DEFICIT REDUCTION MUST COME FROM HIRE TAX TAKE.

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    MR. HIMES

    ECONOMICALLY ILL LITERATE AND DISGRACEFULLY CYNICAL. THIS IS ECONOMICALLY…

    ECONOMICALLY ILL LITERATE AND DISGRACEFULLY CYNICAL. THIS IS ECONOMICALLY ILLITERATE AND DISGRACEFULLY CYNICAL. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:23:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE?

  • 12:23:30 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    BY DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES I CALL UP HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 AND…

    BY DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES I CALL UP HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RESOLUTION.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 52, HOUSE RESOLUTION 347. RESOLVED, THAT AT ANY TIME AFTER THE…

    NUMBER 52, HOUSE RESOLUTION 347. RESOLVED, THAT AT ANY TIME AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION THE SPEAKER MAY, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 2-B OF RULE 18, DECLARE THE HOUSE RESOLVED INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL, H.R. 2018, TO AMEND THE FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH STATE, TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE FIRST READING OF THE BILL SHALL BE DISPENSED WITH. ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL ARE WAIVED. GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE CONFINED TO THE BILL AND SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE HOUR EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. AFTER GENERAL DEBATE, THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE. IT SHALL BE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE NOW PRINTED IN THE BILL. THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE ARE WAIVED. NO AMENDMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE IN ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN THE REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES ACCOMPANYING THIS RESOLUTION. EACH SUCH AMENDMENT MAY BE OFFERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT, MAY BE OFFERED ONLY BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT. SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT. SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT. AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO A DEMAND FOR DIVISION OF THE QUESTION IN THE HOUSE OR IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST SUCH AMENDMENTS ARE WAIVED. AT THE CONCLUSION OF CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL FOR AMENDMENT, THE COMMITTEE SHALL RISE AND REPORT THE BILL TO THE HOUSE WITH SUCH AMENDMENTS AS MAY HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. ANY MEMBER MAY DEMAND A SEPARATE VOTE IN THE HOUSE ON ANY AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO THE BILL OR TO THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS ORDERED ON THE BILL AND AMENDMENTS THERETO TO FINAL PASSAGE WITHOUT INTERVENING MOTION EXCEPT ONE MOTION TO RECOMMIT WITH OR WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE HOUR.

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    MR. BISHOP

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSES OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSES OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS, PENDING WHICH I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. DURING CONSIDERATION OF THIS RESOLUTION ALL TIME YIELDED IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEBATE ONLY. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. BISHOP

    MR. SPEAKER, THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES FOR A STRUCTURED RULE AND MAKES IN…

    MR. SPEAKER, THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES FOR A STRUCTURED RULE AND MAKES IN ORDER 10 SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE, NINE OF THOSE WERE OFFERED BY DEMOCRATS. ONLY ONE AMENDMENT MADE IN ORDER WAS OFFERED BY REPUBLICANS. SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMENDMENTS RECEIVED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE, WHICH ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH HOUSE RULES, WERE MADE IN ORDER UNDER THIS RESOLUTION WITH MOST BEING FROM DEMOCRATS. SO THIS IS A VERY FAIR RULE AND CONTINUES THE RECORD OF THE RULES COMMITTEE IN THIS CONGRESS AS MAKING AS MANY AMENDMENTS IN ORDER AS POSSIBLE, WHICH CONFORM TO HOUSE RULES. SO I COMMEND CHAIRMAN DREIER FOR CONSIDERING THE RECORD OF FAIRNESS AND OPENNESS IN THE FORMATION OF THIS PARTICULAR RULE. LIKEWISE I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, MR. MICA, FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD. MR. SPEAKER, I'M A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION WHICH SEEKS TO RESTORE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BALANCE BETWEEN STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN IT COMES TO IMPLEMENTATION OF CLEAN WATER MANDATES. CLEAN WATER ACT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED BY CONGRESS TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NATION'S WATERS WHICH IS A NOBLE GOAL. WHO CAN BE OPPOSED TO THAT? WE ALL SUPPORT THE IDEA OF CLEAN WATER IN OUR NATION, COMMUNITIES, BUT THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALLOW THE STATES TO BE AUTHORIZED AS THE LEAD AUTHORITY FOR WATER QUALITY PROGRAMS AND PERMITS. UNFORTUNATELY THE BILL WAS WRITTEN IN A VERY CARELESS AND SLOPPY WAY. AND SO TIME HAS COME WHEN IT CAN BE REINTERPRETED AS TIME GOES ON. IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT ALLOW THAT. THE CONSTITUTION CLEARLY SAYS THAT ALL LEGISLATIVE POWERS HEREIN GRANTED SHALL BE VESTED IN THE CONGRESS. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS SEE AN AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT START TO EXPAND BEYOND THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION ITSELF, THE CORE LEGISLATION, IS SOMEWHAT VAGE. JOHN MARSHAL ONCE SAID THAT AGENCIES SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO FILL IN THE DETAILS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DETAILS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE AGENCIES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE EXPANDED THEIR POWER AND RESPONSIBILITY FAR BEYOND WHAT WAS EVER INTENDED. SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT RELATES TO THE VALUE AND PRIORITY OF STATES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAD PREVIOUSLY OBTAINED A E.P.A. APPROVAL FOR ITS STATE WATERWIDE -- STATEWIDE WATER QUANTITY, QUALITY, AND NUTRITIONAL CRITERIA DEVELOPMENT PLAN. EVEN THOUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS WELL UNDER WAY IN DEVELOPING ITS OWN NUTRIENT STANDARDS BASED ON THOSE EARLIER FEDERAL APPROVALS, THE E.P.A. IN 2010 DECIDED TO STEP IN AND WITH WHAT NELSON ROCKEFELLER USED TO SAY AS THE DEADENING HAND OF BUREAUCRACY, IMPOSED ITS OWN NEW WATER QUALITY STANDARDS FOR NUTRIENTS ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT VIOLATED THE IMPLICIT STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP ESTABLISHED UNDER THE ORIGINAL CLEAN WATER ACT AND STOMPED ALL OVER THE GOOD WORK THAT FLORIDA HAD BEEN DOING WHEN IT WAS COMPLETING ITS TASKS BASED ON THOSE EARLIER FEDERAL APPROVALS. IN OTHER STATES THE SAME THING HAS HAPPENED, WEST VIRGINIA THE E.P.A. RETROACTIVELY VETOED PERMITS PREVIOUSLY ISSUED FOR COLE MINING OPERATIONS BY THE -- COAL MINING OPERATIONS BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. AN EXAMPLE OF OVERREACHING BY ADMINISTRATION, SPECIFICALLY THE E.P.A., THAT HAS UPSET THE LONG-STANDING BALANCE BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE PARTNERS AND REGULATING OUR NATION'S WATERS AND HAS UNDERMINED THE SYSTEM OF COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE ORIGINAL CLEAN WATER ACT. . THEY PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE STATES HAVE CREATED AN ATMOSPHERE OF REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY FOR BUSINESSES, FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHICH NOW HAVE TO PLAN AND RELY ON CLEAN WATER PERMITS AS THEY THINK THEY MIGHT BE USED IN THE FUTURE. THIS NEW UNCERTAINTY HAS NOTHING LESS THAN AN EXTREMELY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES, BOTH LARGE AND SMALL. AS HAS BEEN CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF -- IMPACTS OF OUR NATION'S ECONOMY AND THE INAFBLET THIS ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE JOBS, IN SPITE OF MASSIVE AND RECORD SPENDING AND CRUSHING DEBT THAT ACCOMPLISHED IT. THIS BILL IS INDEED COMMON SENSE, IT'S A TARGETED APPROACH AT CORRECTING SOME OF THE ABUSES. IT'S NOT ABOUT DISTRIBUTION OF WATER, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY EVEN ABOUT THE QUALITY, IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS IN WHICH WE ARE INVOLVED AS WHO GETS TO DECIDE. AND IT ALSO RESTATES THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE STATES LOGICALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN STATES AND DO NOT HAVE TO RELY ON THE LARGESS OF THE ALL-WISE AND ALL-IMPORTANT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEM. PASSAGE OF H.R. 2018 WILL NOT IN ANY WAY GUT THE CLEAN AIR REGULATIONS OR ENDANGER CITIZENS INTO DRINKING DIRTY WATER. THE E.P.A. RETAINS ITS ULTIMATE AUTHORITY, HOWEVER THE BILL HAS NARROWLY DRAFTED TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF STATES TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR OWN QUALITY STANDARDS WITHOUT INTERFERENCE OR RETROACTIVE SECOND GUESSING BY THOSE INSIDE THE BELTWAY BUREAUCRATS WHO HAVE LITTLE OR NO LOCAL KNOWLEDGE OF CONDITIONS OR QUALITIES THAT ARE UNDER THEIR CONSIDERATION. THE GROWING EXCESSES OF THE E.P.A. IN SECOND GUESSING THE STATES AND RETROACTIVELY REVOKING PREVIOUSLY GRANTED APPROVALS MUST STOP. THE STATUS QUO HURTS PEOPLE AND IT DOES NOT HELP THE VALUE OR THE QUANTITY OR THE QUALITY OF OUR WATER. THIS BILL IS A GOOD START. IT'S NOT THE COMPLETION OF THE ISSUE, BUT IT IS A GOOD START IN TRYING TO PROVIDE BALANCED AND RATIONALITY -- BALANCE AND RATIONALITY BACK INTO THE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WE HAVE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WHEN DECISIONS ARE MADE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ARBITRARILY TAKEN AWAY AND CHANGED IN THE FUTURE. NO GOVERNMENT CAN OPERATE THAT WAY, NO BUSINESS CAN OPERATE THAT WAY. THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS A GOOD BILL. MORE IMPORTANTLY THIS IS AN EXTREMELY FAIR RULE AND I URGE ITS ADOPTION. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:32:51 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:32:56 PM

    MR. POLIS

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 12:33:06 PM

    MR. POLIS

    ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH ON THE OCCASION OF HIS…

    ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH ON THE OCCASION OF HIS BIRTHDAY AND CONVEY MY WARM BIRTHDAY WISHES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH. DESPITE IT BEING HIS BIRTHDAY, HOWEVER, I HAVE TO DISADEPREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT HE SAID REGARDING THIS -- DISAGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT HE SAID REGARDING THIS BILL. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE RULE AND THE BILL. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DEBATE THAT OUR COUNTRY HAS HAD FOR GENERATIONS WITH REGARD TO STATE SOVEREIGNTY, THE ROLE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT'S AN ONGOING DISCUSSION SINCE THE REVOLUTIONARY DISCUSSIONS OF JEFFERSON, ADAMS AND HAMILTON. AND AS POPULAR DISCOURSE SWINGS BACK AND FORTH ON THIS FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE, OUR COUNTRY HAS CONCLUDED, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THAT AT THE VERY LEAST THERE ARE CERTAIN DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND INTERSTATE COMMERCE THAT CANNOT BE MADE UNILATERALLY BY DIFFERENT STATES. THAT'S TRUE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS WITH REGARD TO THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, IT'S TRUE FOR IMMIGRATION WHICH CAN ONLY BE ADDRESSED AT A NATIONAL LEVEL AND IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY ALSO TRUE AS I'LL DESCRIBE FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH. RESPONSIBILITY IS FUNDAMENTALLY AN AMERICAN VALUE. TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. BUT, MR. SPEAKER, CANCER CLUSTER, POLLUTED AIR AND POLLUTED WATER DON'T KNOW STATE BOUPPEDRIES. THE RIVER ON THE WAY TO LAKE ERIE CAUGHT ON FIRE OVER POLLUTION WHEN THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS WRITTEN. IT WOULDN'T STOP BURNING SIMPLY BECAUSE OF A STATE BORDERLINE. SPILLED OIL IN MONTANA'S YELLOWSTONE RIVER WON'T STOP AT THE BORDER OF NORTH DAKOTA AS IT JOINS THE MISSOURI RIVER AND MAKES ITS WAY DOWN TO THE MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI. MAINTAINING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BASIC STRUCTURE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT ENSURES THAT EACH STATE MEETS THE BASIC SAFETY STANDARDS IN THEIR OWN WAY, GIVING THEM FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT'S A CRITICAL APPLICATION OF FEDERAL AUTHORITY WITH REGARD TO INTERSTATE COMMERCE AND INTERSTATE ACTIVITIES. THE INTERSTATE NATURE OF POLLUTED AIR, POLLUTED WATER AND THE DEVASTATING AFFECT THAT -- EFFECT THAT POLLUTION HAS ON OUR HEALTH DEMONSTRATES CLEARLY THAT IT'S AN ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE CONFRONTED BY ALL OF OUR STATES TOGETHER. IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HERE AT THE SEAT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. MR. SPEAKER, LET'S NOT FOOL OURSELVES. THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE ROLE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE BILL ISN'T JUST A PUSH FOR SAFE SOVEREIGNTY. RATHER THIS BILL IS SATISFYING TWO VERY NICHE SPECIAL INTERESTS AT THE COST OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. THIS BILL IS DESIGNED TO BENEFIT MOUNTAIN TOP COAL MINING COMPANIES AND LARGE FACTORY FARMS. H.R. 2018 WOULD RESTRICT E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE EXISTING WATER STANDARD OR PROMULGATE A NEW ONE UNLESS THE STATE CONCURS, EFFECTIVELY GIVING VETO POWER TO EACH STATE. IT WOULD PROHIBIT E.P.A. FROM REJECTING WATER QUALITY CERTIFICATION GRANTED BY A STATE, IT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM LIMITING FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THE STATE PROGRAM IF A STATE IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH WATER QUALITY STANDARDS. MR. SPEAKER, MOUNTAIN TOP COAL MINE DESERVES A LEGITIMATE DEBATE HERE IN THIS BODY AND PERHAPS THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH AND I MIGHT AGREE ON SOME PART OF THAT AND DISAGREE ON OTHERS THAT DEBATE NEEDS TO CAREFULLY EXAMINE THE ARGUMENTS OF JOBS IN THE COAL INDUSTRY, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE VERSUS ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS, ALSO LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. BUT THAT DEBATE SHOULDN'T BE HELD UNDER THE GUISE OF STATE CONTROL OR UNDER THE GUISE OF WATER POLLUTION PERMITS. THIS IS A BACKDOOR HANDOUT FOR A FEW DESTRUCTIVE COMPANIES, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED UNDER THE CONTEXT OF FEDERALISM. I FOR ONE THINK THAT OVERSIGHT IN MOUNTAIN TOP MINE SOMETHING CRITICAL AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, CONTINUED HANDOUTS TO THE COAL INDUSTRY KEEP US ADDICTED TO THE DIRTY SOURCE OF ENERGY WHEN MORE JOBS AND A BETTER STANDARD OF LIVING AND TRUE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE ARE POSSIBLE TODAY THROUGH CLEAN ENERGY, BORN OF AMERICAN INNOVATION. I'D LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:37:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

  • 12:37:12 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    I'M PLEASED TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA AND A MEMBER OF THE…

    I'M PLEASED TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA AND A MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE.…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE. MR. SPEAKER, THE FOLKS WHO DON'T FOLLOW EXACTLY WHAT THE RULES COMMITTEE DOES, YOU KNOW, THE RULES COMMITTEE IS THAT COMMITTEE THAT'S THE VERY LAST COMMITTEE TO TOUCH ANY PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT COMES TO THE FLOOR.

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  • 12:37:39 PM

    MR. WOODALL

    THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RULES COMMITTEE THEN TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF…

    THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RULES COMMITTEE THEN TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF CHOICES WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAKE ABOUT THE BILL ONCE IT GETS TO THE FLOOR. THERE WAS A TIME IN THIS HOUSE, MR. SPEAKER, WHERE WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THE RULES COMMITTEE CLOSED THAT PROCESS DOWN, DIDN'T ALLOW ANY OTHER OPTIONS, ANY OTHER OPINIONS, NO AMENDMENTS AT ALL, SENT A BILL TO THE FLOOR AND SAID, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. BUT, MR. SPEAKER, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF CHAIRMAN DREIER ON THE RULES COMMITTEE AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP HERE OF THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE THAT PROCESS HAS BEGUN TO CHANGE. NOW IT'S NOT PERFECT BUT IT'S BEGUN TO CHANGE AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF A RULE TODAY WHERE THE RULES COMMITTEE ASK ALL 435 MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT, ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE CHANGED ABOUT THIS BILL, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS BILL IMPROVED, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION? AS YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, YESTERDAY WE HAD THAT EXACT SAME PROCESS ON THE FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM AND NOT ONLY DID WE ALLOW LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, WE EVEN ALLOWED AN AMENDMENT TO ELIMINATE THE FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM ALTOGETHER. THAT'S THE KIND OF OPENNESS THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED IN THIS 112TH CONGRESS. WELL THIS RULE TODAY IS NO EXCEPTION. THAT'S WHY I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF IT. WE ASK ALL 435 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, HOW WOULD YOU IMPROVE THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT? SEND IN YOUR AMENDMENT NOW, HAVE IT PREPRINTED, LET US COME AND CONSIDER YOUR IDEAS AND, MR. SPEAKER, WE DID THAT. REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE. I HAVE ONLY HAD ONE REPUBLICAN AMENDMENT SUBMITTED, WE MAY HAVE HAD IN ORDER, WE HAD 11 DEMOCRAT AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED, ONE OF THOSE WAS NONGERMANE, ONE WAS DUPLICATIVE, THE OTHER NINE WERE MADE IN ORDER. HERE WE ARE, REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS, MR. SPEAKER, AND FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SPEAKER AND THE RULES COMMITTEE, WE HAVE SAID ALL AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE PREPRINT, -- PREPRINTED, ALL AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND HERE WE ARE CONSIDERING ONE REPUBLICAN AMENDMENT AND NINE DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENTS. A LOT OF FOLKS ASK WHY THAT IS, MR. SPEAKER, I GET THAT EVERY TIME I GO BACK HOME. I LIVE IN A VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT, AS YOU KNOW, MR. SPEAKER, AND SO FOLKS SAY, ROB, WHY DON'T YOU JUST SHUT DOWN THE PROCESS AND DO IT YOUR WAY BECAUSE YOUR WAY IS THE RIGHT WAY? AND I TELL THEM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IN OUR PART OF THE WORLD OUR OPINION IS THE RIGHT OPINION. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER OPINIONS, YOU GET TO WASHINGTON, D.C., 435 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THAT'S 435 OPINIONS, SOMETIMES IT'S 436, 437 OPINIONS AMONG THE 435 OF US. AND WE CAN ONLY HAVE THIS BODY, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, WORK ITS WILL WHEN ALL OF THE PEOPLE ARE HEARD. AND I JUST SAY, AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH FOR YIELDING, IT HAS BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE TO BE A PART OF A RULES COMMITTEE AND SERVING WITH FOLKS LIKE THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO WHOSE EDITORIAL I READ IN THE PAPER THIS MORNING WITH GREAT INTEREST, SERVING ON A COMMITTEE WITH FOLKS LIKE THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, WHO ARE COMMITTED TO OPENNESS IN THIS PROCESS. I'M A BELIEVER, MR. SPEAKER, I'M ONE OF THE NEW GUYS. ONLY BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER FOR AMERICA WHEN WE DO THINGS IN AN OPEN PROCESS. NOW, BECAUSE I COME FROM A CONSERVATIVE DISTRICT, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WHEN WE OPEN UP THE PROCESS TO ALLCOMERS, I'M GOING TO LOSE, MR. SPEAKER. I'M GOING TO LOSE BECAUSE THIS HOUSE KIND OF SITS IN THE MIDDLE. WE'RE A CENTER-RIGHT NATION. SO I COME FROM A FAR RIGHT DISTRICT, THAT MEANS I'M GOING TO LOSE BUT I TELL YOU AS AN AMERICAN I WANT THIS HOUSE TO WORK ITS WILL. I WANT THIS BODY TO WORK THE WAY THE FOUNDERS INTENDED IT TO WORK, I WANT US TO TAKE THESE BABY STEPS, MR. SPEAKER, TOWARD RESTORING THE FAITH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE. AND SO, AGAIN, IT IS WITH GREAT PRIDE THINK A RISE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE -- PRIDE THAT I RISE AS MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE, SOMEONE WHO IS SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE LEADERSHIP OF CHAIRMAN DREIER AND SPEAKER BOEHNER AND OUR FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE WHO ENABLE US TO MAKE THIS PROCESS THE OPEN PROCESS THAT 'TIS. I ENCOURAGE ALL MY COLLEAGUE -- THAT IT IS. I ENCOURAGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RULE AND THEN VOTE THEIR CONSCIOUS ON THE UNDERLYING PROVISION. MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. POLIS

    MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK,…

    MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, THE RANKING MEMBER ON THE WATER RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. BISHOP.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO FOR…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS RULE AND I ALSO OPPOSE THE UNDERLYING BILL. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS HEARTENED THAT MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ACCEPTED MANY OF THE AMENDMENTS OFFERED IN THE RULES COMMITTEE YESTERDAY AND I COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR ATTEMPTS TO ADHERE TO THE OPEN PROCESS THAT THEY PROMISED. HOWEVER, I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MY GOOD FRIEND FROM MISSOURI, MR. CARNAHAN, WAS NOT MADE IN ORDER BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL AREAS OF CONCERN FOR THIS BILL THAT I AND A GREAT MANY OTHERS SHARE AND THAT IS THAT IT UNDERMINES THE FEDERAL FLOOR ON WATER QUALITY STANDARDS THAT HAS MADE THE CLEAN WATER ACT SUCH A SUCCESS. THIS BODY SHOULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND YET THE RULE DENIES THAT OPPORTUNITY. I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE LONG ISLAND SOUND WHICH BORDERS THE NORTHERN SHORE OF MY DISTRICT AND ALSO THE SOUTHERN SHORE OF CONNECTICUT. IN MY VIEW THE INVESTMENT OF FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL RESOURCES TO CLEAN UP AND PROTECT THE SOUND SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFITS COMMUNITIES IN MY DISTRICT AND IN OUR REGION GENERALLY IN TERMS OF INCREASED ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY, INCREASED REVENUES FROM COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL USES OF THE SOUND AND INCREASED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS. AS A NEW YORKER I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE EFFORTS MY STATE HAS MADE IN IMPROVING THE WATER QUALITY OF THE SOUND AND I APPRECIATE THE COLLECTIVE EFFORTS OF OUR NEIGHBORING STATES IN CLEANING UP THE SOUND. HOWEVER, UNDER H.R. 2018 WE REVERT BACK TO THE STATE BY STATE GO IT ALONE APPROACH THAT WAS THE HALLUCINATE MARK OF WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION -- HALLMARK OF WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION BEFORE THE CLEAN WATER ACT. IF THE E.P.A. PROPOSES A REVISED WATER QUALITY STANDARD THAT SCIENCE DICTATES IS NEEDED TO CLEAN UP THE SOUND AND CONNECTICUT DECIDES THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT STANDARD, THE E.P.A. WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COMPEL THEM TO DO SO NOR WOULD NEW YORK HAVE ANY RECOURSE UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT TO ENSURE THAT CONNECTICUT OR OTHER UPSTREAM STATES ARE DOING WHAT IS NEEDED. IN OTHER WORDS, A RECIPE FOR THE KIND OF POLLUTION THAT WE DEALT WITH PRIOR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. FOR THIS AND A GREAT MANY OTHER REASONS, H.R. 2018 FLIES IN THE FACE OF DECADES OF EXPERIENCE IN IMPLEMENTING THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND RISKS ALL THE GAINS IN WATER QUALITY THAT WE HAVE MADE OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS. FOR THINK A URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THE RULE AND THE UNDERLYING BILL AND -- FOR THAT I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THE RULE AND THE UNDERLYING BILL AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. POLIS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I'D LIKE TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I'D LIKE TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, A MEMBER OF THE WATER RESOURCES SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. CARNAHAN.

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    MR. CARNAHAN

    MY COLLEAGUE, MR. POLIS, FOR THE WORK ON THIS RULE. I APPRECIATE THE RULES…

    MY COLLEAGUE, MR. POLIS, FOR THE WORK ON THIS RULE. I APPRECIATE THE RULES COMMITTEE MAKING ONE AMENDMENT I OFFERED IN ORDER. HOWEVER I OFFERED A SECOND AMENDMENT THAT GETS RIGHT AT THE HEART OF THE ISSUES ADDRESSED BY THIS LEGISLATION AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS AMENDMENT WAS NOT MADE IN ORDER. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THIS IS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY DOES NOT WANT A FLOOR DEBATE THAT DEMONSTRATES THE WEAKNESSES INHERENT IN THIS LEGISLATION. MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE ST. LOUIS REGION I REPRESENT UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE CLEAN WATER ACT IS. SITUATED AT THE CONFLUENCE OF OUR COUNTRY'S TWO GREATEST RIVERS, THE MISSISSIPPI AND MISSOURI, ST. LOUIS HAS A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MIGHTY RIVERS. WE HAVE LONG RELIED ON THE RIVERS TO TAKE OUR PRODUCTS TO MARKET AND TO CONNECT US TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. AND OF COURSE WE DEPEND ON THEM TO PROVIDE CLEAN DRINKING WATER. AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE LEARNED TO REBUILD AFTER DEVASTATING FLOODS AND I'M SORRY TO SEE THIS YEAR MANY -- THIS MAY WELL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE MOST DEVASTATING YEAR FOR FLOODING SINCE THE EPIC YEAR OF 1993. I APPRECIATE THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE MADE IN ORDER MY AMENDMENT WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO DEBATE AND VOTE TO ENSURE PROVISIONS WHICH HELP ENSURE THAT FLOODED COMMUNITIES DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT UNCLEAN AND UNSAFE WATER AS THEY RECOVER. HOWEVER, MR. SPEAKER, MY CONSTITUENTS WANT TO KNOW THAT THEIR WATER IS CLEAN AND SAFE AT ALL TIMES. NOT JUST IN THE WAKE OF NATURAL DISASTERS. THIS BILL SEEKS TO GIVE STATES GREATER CONTROL OVER THE WATER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WATER DOES NOT ALWAYS OBEY STATE BORDERS. THIS DEAL FAILS, IT FAILS TO ENSURE THAT WATER FLOWING FROM AN UPSTREAM STATE MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR WATER QUALITY FOR ANY OF THE DOWNSTREAM STATES. THIS LEGISLATION WILL UNDERMINE THE PRECEDENTS WE HAVE ESTABLISHED SINCE PRESIDENT NIXON SIGNED THE CLEAN WATER ACT INTO LAW IN 1972 THAT ALLOWS THE E.P.A. TO BALANCE THE CONCERNS OF DIFFERENT STATES AND ENSURE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR EVERYONE. IF H.R. 2018 WERE TO BECOME LAW AS IT STANDS NOW, THE E.P.A. WOULD LOSE THIS CRITICAL ABILITY. IN THAT CASE, MISSOURI WOULD HAVE LITTLE RECOURSE, THAN SAY MINNESOTA, OR ILLINOIS DECIDED TO ADOPT CLEAN WATER STANDARDS BELOW WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO MISSOURI. IN MY AMENDMENT WHICH WAS NOT MADE IN ORDER, IT IS SIMPLE, IT WOULD HAVE EXEMPTED WATER THAT TRAVELS BETWEEN STATES. THUS SOLVING THE ISSUE OF DIFFERING STANDARDS BETWEEN STATES. IF ONE STATE CHOOSES TO ALLOW POLLUTERS TO DISCHARGE HARMFUL CHEMICALS INTO A SHARED WATER BODY, OTHER STATES THAT SHARE THE WATERS SHOULD HAVE A SAY. AND E.P.A. SHOULD STEP IN AND ENSURE BASIC STANDARDS ARE MET. UNFORTUNATELY H.R. 2018 WITHOUT MY AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW STATES TO ADOPT INCONSISTENT STANDARDS THAT WILL CREATE UNCERTAINTY FOR BUSINESS, DAMAGE OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND UNDERMINE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH. MR. SPEAKER, I URGE A NO VOTE. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. BISHOP

    RESERVE. COULD I INQUIRE ON HOW MANY SPEAKERS THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO…

    RESERVE. COULD I INQUIRE ON HOW MANY SPEAKERS THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO ACTUALLY HAS?

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    MR. POLIS

    WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THE WAY. BUT I'M PREPARED TO CLOSE IF HE SHOWS UP…

    WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THE WAY. BUT I'M PREPARED TO CLOSE IF HE SHOWS UP WANTING TO SPEAK, I'LL PLAN TO YIELD TO HIM.

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    MR. BISHOP

    I STILL RESERVE THEN.

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    MR. POLIS

    YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF THE TIME. MR. SPEAKER, RECENT STUDIES SUGGEST…

    YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF THE TIME. MR. SPEAKER, RECENT STUDIES SUGGEST MOUNTON TOP MINING IS ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER BIRTH DEFECT RATES AND MANY OTHER HEALTH PROBLEMS. IN APPALACHIAN COAL MINING COMMUNITIES, RATES OF CANCER AND BIRTH DEFECTS ARE MUCH HIGHER AND DIRECTLY RELATES TO MOUNTAINTOP MINING PRACTICES. EVEN HIGHER THAN AREAS WITH TRADITIONAL COAL MINE. IS THIS WHAT THE REST OF US ARE BEING ASKED TO SUBSIDIZE AT THE COST OF OUR OWN STATES AND HEALTH? IF WE WANT TO DEBATE MOUNTAINTOP MINING, LET'S DO IT. AND THERE ARE PROS AND CONSEQUENCE. LEGITIMATE ISSUES. -- CONS. WE DON'T WANT TO HURT THE REST OF THE STATES IN THAT PROCESS. THIS BILL THROWS INTO QUESTION A BALANCE BETWEEN STATE AND FEDERAL AUTHORITY THAT SERVES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WELL FOR 30 YEARS. WHY SHOULD THE REST OF US PAY THE PRICE FOR THE GAIN OF A FEW COAL MINING COMPANIES OR FACTORY FARMS WHEN MOST AMERICANS WOULD PREFER THAT WE PROTECT CHESAPEAKE BAY AND THE EVERGLADES? OKLAHOMA CONTINUES TO BATTLE ARKANSAS OVER WATER POLLUTION OVER POULTRY FARMS WHICH STARTS IN ARKANSAS AND FLOWS INTO OKLAHOMA. WHY ARE WE VOTING ON A BILL THAT WOULD LET ARKANSAS DESPITE THE FATE OF OKLAHOMA'S WATERS? WHY SHOULD A COMMUNITY IN TENNESSEE WHOSE ECONOMY IS BOOMING THANKS TO WHITE WATER RAFTING AND THE GROWTH OF THE OUTDOOR RECREATION INDUSTRY LIVE AND DIE BY THE DECISIONS OF A NORTH CAROLINA MINING COMPANY? ARE WE REALLY GOING TO VOTE FOR THE ABILITY OF PENNSYLVANIA TO DECIDE THE FATE OF NEW YORK, MARYLAND, AND WEST VIRGINIA RIVERS WHEN PENNSYLVANIA HAS DECIDED THAT TRACKING WITH CHEMICALS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT? I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THESE PRONOUNCED DOWN STREAM STRAITS VOTE ON THESE MEASURES AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THIS BILL AND HOW ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS IT FROM THE DOWNSTREAM STATES CAN POSSIBLY JUSTIFY TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON THE RECEIVING END OF INTERSTATE POLLUTION. H.R. 2018 WOULD UNDERMINE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT STATES EFFECTIVELY IMPLEMENT OR MAKE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR WATER QUALITY STANDARDS. IF STATES FAIL TO ADHERE TO THEIR OWN EXISTING WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, THE BILL WOULD PROHIBIT THE E.P.A. FROM INSISTING THE STATES MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. REGARDING DREDGE AND FILL PROJECTS, THIS BILL WOULD STYMIE E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO STOP DISCHARGES THAT HAVE UNACCEPTABLE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON WATER SUPPLIES. ALTHOUGH THIS VETO AUTHORITY HAS ONLY BEEN USED 13 TIMES IN THE PAST 38 YEARS, IT'S A CRITICAL TOOL WITH SAFEGUARDS AGAINST THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE AND HEALTH THREATENING PROPOSALS. AMERICANS EXPECT AND RELY ON CLEAN WATER AND CLEAN AIR. WE BREATHE AND DRINK EVERY DAY. THE NATION'S LAKES, RIVERS, BASE, WETLANDS, AND STREAMS ARE VITAL TO OUR HEALTH AND VITAL TO OUR ECONOMY. FROM THE CHESAPEAKE BAY TO THE FLAKES OF THE FLORIDA EVERGLADES, ALL OF THESE WATER WAYS AND BEACHES ARE OF INTEREST AND VALUE AND IMPORTANCE TO OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY. THEY NEED TO BE CLEAN ENOUGH TO SWIM AND DRINK AND FISH FROM. AMERICANS SHOULD HAVE SAFE, CLEAN WATER TO DRINK. H.R. 2018 WOULD REMOVE E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES FROM UNACCEPTABLE ADVERSE EFFECTS TO OUR NATION'S WATERS AND PUBLIC HEALTH. BEFORE THE CLEAN WATER ACT, THERE WASN'T AN EFFECTIVE FEDERAL SAFETY NET TO ENSURE THE HEALTH OF OUR WATERS. BUT SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT, WE HAVE HAD MADE GREAT STRIDES IN RESTORING OUR WATER WAYS. -- WATERWAYS. THIS BILL THREATENS TO MOVE THAT BACK. OUR CURRENT WATERWAYS ARE CRITICAL FOR OUR ECONOMY. IN MY HOME STATE OF COLORADO AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WATERWAYS SUSTAIN THE ACTIVITIES OF 40 MILLION ANGLERS AND SPORTSMEN WHO SPEND ABOUT $45 BILLION A YEAR. AND ABOUT $2.3 MILLION PEOPLE WHO SPEND OVER $1 BILLION A YEAR HUNTING AS WELL AS MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRY. WE HAVE A NATIONAL INTEREST ON THESE ISSUES AND IT SHOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AMERICAN VALUE OF RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN THE ABILITY OF ANY ONE PARTICULAR STATE TO DAMAGE THE ECONOMY AND HEALTH OF PEOPLE IN ANOTHER STATE. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. BISHOP

    TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. DUNCAN.

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    MR. DUNCAN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018 AND I THANK THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018 AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING ME THIS TIME. LAST YEAR THOMAS DONAHUE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SAID IN A SPEECH TO A MAJOR JOBS SUMMIT, QUOTE, TAKING COLLECTIVELY THE REGULATORY ACTIVITY UNDER WAY IS SO OVERWHELMINGLY BEYOND ANYTHING WE HAVE EVER SEEN THAT WE RISK MOVING THIS COUNTRY AWAY FROM A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE TO A GOVERNMENT OF REGULATORS. MR. SPEAKER, IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO SEE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY, IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO CREATE ENOUGH JOBS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS EXPLOSION OF FEDERAL RULES, REGULATIONS, AND RED TAPE. THIS COUNTRY COULD BE BOOMLING RIGHT NOW -- BOOMING RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S BEING HELD BACK BY FEDERAL BUREAUCRATS WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE OR NO BUSINESS EXPERIENCE AND WHO DOES NOT REALIZE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO SURVIVE IN SMALL BUSINESS OR ON SMALL FARMS TODAY. THIS IS MY 23RD YEAR IN THE CONGRESS. I BELIEVE I HAVE HEARD AND READ MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE E.P.A. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAN ABOUT ALL OTHER AGENCIES, FEDERAL AGENCIES COMBINED. THIS BILL IS A VERY MODERATE ATTEMPT TO REIN IN ENVIRONMENTAL RADICALS AT THE E.P.A. AND PUT SOME COMMON SENSE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SOME FAIRNESS IN THESE CLEAN WATER RULINGS. I HAVE HEARD FROM FARMERS, HOME BUILDERS, SMALL BUSINESSPEOPLE, REALTORS, COAL MINERS, SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, AND OTHERS, THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS DO NOT HURT THE BIG GIANTS IN BUSINESS. THEY HELP THEM BY DRIVING OUT COMPETITION. BUT THEY ARE SURE HURTING THE LITTLE GUY. AND THEY ARE HURTING POOR AND LOWER INCOME PEOPLE BY DRIVING UP THE COST OF HOUSES, THE COST OF FOOD, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND DESTROYING JOBS. SIMPLY PUT, THE E.P.A. IS OUT OF CONTROL. A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I SHARED THE WATER RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM A CRANBERRY FARMER IN MASSACHUSETTS. DURING HIS TESTIMONY, HE BROKE DOWN INTO TEARS OVER THE WAY HE WAS TREATED BY THE E.P.A. THE E.P.A. CLAIMED HE FILLED 46 ACRES OF WETLAND THAT THE FARMER SAID NEVER EXISTED MUCH THE FARMER, MR. JOHNSON, SPENT $2 MILLION OVER TWO DECADES FIGHTING THIS CASE. AT THE END OF IT, MR. JOHNSON SAID HE WAS DISGUSTED BY ALL THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON A SMALL SECTION OF HIS 400 ACRE FARM. HE SAID, QUOTE, FOR THE MONEY THEY SPENT, THEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT ALL OF OUR PROPERTY WITH HALF OF IT. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IN ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS WETLAND CASES, THE TRIAL JUDGE IN A FEDERAL COURT SAID, QUOTE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE I JUST SENTENCED MR. GONZALEZ A. PERSON SELLING DOPE ON THE STREETS OF THE UNITED STATES, HE IS AN ILLEGAL PERSON HERE. HE'S NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. HE HAS A PRIOR CRIMINAL RECORD. HERE WE HAVE A PERSON WHO COMES TO THE UNITED STATES AND COMMITS CRIMES OF SELLING DOPE AND THE GOVERNMENT ASKS ME TO PUT HIM IN PRISON FOR 10 MONTHS. AND THEN WE HAVE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN WHO BUYS LAND, PAYS FOR IT WITH HIS OWN MONEY, AND HE MOVES SOME SAND FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER AND THE GOVERNMENT WANTS ME TO GIVE HIM 63 MONTHS IN PRISON. AND THE JUDGE SAID, NOW, THAT ISN'T OUR SYSTEM GONE CRAZY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL IS ALL ABOUT. WE HAVE HAD SO MANY OF THESE BUREAUCRATIC RULINGS THAT HAVE JUST GONE CRAZY.

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    MR. DUNCAN

    IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FEDERAL SYSTEM IN WHICH OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FELT MORE…

    IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FEDERAL SYSTEM IN WHICH OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FELT MORE POWER SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE STATES THAN TO THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T ENVISION A FEDERAL DICTATORSHIP WITH THE STATES BEING DICTATED TO BY AN ELECTED -- UN-ELECTED FEDERAL BUREAUCRATS. THIS BILL DOES NOT GO VERY FAR BUT IT AT LEAST TRIES TO PUT A LITTLE MORE BALANCE AND FAIRNESS BACK INTO OUR SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BOTH CLEAN WATER AND A STRONGER ECONOMY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. POLIS

    ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. I ASK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IF HE HAS REMAINING…

    ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. I ASK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IF HE HAS REMAINING SPEAKERS?

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    MR. BISHOP

    I DON'T. I MAY BE SURPRISED AGAIN. I'M READY TO CLOSE AS WELL.

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    MR. POLIS

    THANK YOU. MR. SPEAKER, FROM A PURELY SELF INTEREST PERSPECTIVE AS A…

    THANK YOU. MR. SPEAKER, FROM A PURELY SELF INTEREST PERSPECTIVE AS A COLORADOAN, AND PERHAPS WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TO LOSE AS WE ARE A HEADWATER STATE, EITHER ENDS UP IN THE ARKANSAS OR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVERS FLOWING TOWARDS THE GULF OF MEXICO OR ENDS UP IN THE COLORADO RIVER SUPPLYING MY FRIEND FROM UTAH'S STATE AS WELL AS ARIZONA, NEVADA, AND CALIFORNIA. THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE RUNS RIGHT THROUGH MY DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF COLORADO. IF COLORADO, FOR EXAMPLE, OPENED ITS DOOR TO UNREGULATED URANIUM MINING, ITS UTAH, NEW MEXICO, ARIZONA, AND CALIFORNIA WHO WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT PRICE. REGARDLESS OF SELF-INTEREST, CLEAN WATER IS AN INTERSTATE ISSUE THAT DESERVES AN INTERSTATE SOLUTION. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING BETTER THAN -- THAT BETTER FITS THE DESCRIPTION OF INTERSTATE COMMERCE WHICH IS ENSHRINED IN OUR CONSTITUTION ITSELF. TRULY HOW WE DEAL WITH OUR INTERSTATE WATERWAYS IS AT THE VERY BASE OF INTERSTATE COMMERCE. SAFE DRINKING WATER IS CRITICAL TO ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SURVIVAL OF ALL COMMUNITIES NATIONALLY. AND ALL PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. WHILE STATES APPROPRIATELY HAVE LED THE ROLE IN IMPLEMENTING CLEAN WATER SAFEGUARDS, THE LAW DOES NOT FUNCTION EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT A BACKSTOP AND A FLOOR PROVIDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT ENSURES THE PEOPLE HAVE CLEAN WATER AND SAFE DRINKING WATER REGARDLESS OF THE STATE IN WHICH THEY LIVE. MR. SPEAKER, YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY THE CALL FOR THE RIGHT OF FEDERAL OVERREACH OF AN OUT-OF-CONTROL E.P.A. THAT KIND OF RHETORIC -- AGAIN, VALID DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE DEGREE OF REGULATION FROM THE E.P.A., HOW TO DEAL WITH MOUNTAINTOP COAL MINING, ALL IMPORTANT POLICY DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY ARE SIMPLY AVOIDED AND PUNTED IN THE WRONG WAY BY SAYING THAT THESE AREN'T LEGITIMATE INTERSTATE ISSUES THAT HAVE THEIR NEXUS HERE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THIS BILL IS TRULY ABOUT A HANDOUT TO SPECIAL INTERESTS. A VOTE FOR THIS BILL IS A VOTE WITH A FEW WELL LOBBIED COMPANIES AND A VOTE AGAINST HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT OF DOWNSTREAM STATES AND RESIDENTS WHICH AS I NOTED ABOVE INCLUDE JUST ABOUT EVERY PERSON IN THE COUNTRY. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THE RULE AND THE BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:59:55 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ALSO APPRECIATE MY GOOD FRIEND FROM COLORADO AND…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ALSO APPRECIATE MY GOOD FRIEND FROM COLORADO AND THE WAY HE HAS CONDUCTED THE DEBATE SO FAR IN THIS RULE. I HAVE TO ADMIT, IN CLOSING ON THIS PARTICULAR BILL THAT I, AS SOMEONE WHO AS A STATE LEGISLATOR, WORKED ON THE COMPLEX THAT DEALT WITH THE LARGEST UNDEVELOPED RIVER IN MY DISTRICT THAT WENT THROUGH AND CROSSED SIX DIFFERENT STATE BOUNDARIES BEFORE IT FOUND ITS WAY TO THE GREAT SALT LAKE CITY, THE IDEA THAT ONLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN ACTUALLY SOLVE ISSUES THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN STATES OR CROSS STATES BOUNDARIES IS SOMEWHAT ALMOST INSULTING TO THE IDEA OF THE STATES. IT IS MAYBE TRUE THAT IN EVERY ISSUE THERE IS ALWAYS SOME CATALYST THAT BRINGS IT ABOUT. . THE ISSUE IN FLORIDA AND WEST VIRGINIA WAS A CATALYST BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY SITUATION THAT HAS PROVIDED THE BASIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR BILL. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND FORESTRY WHO HAS WRITTEN IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL SIMPLY BECAUSE LOUISIANA IS CURRENTLY FACING A SIMILAR THREAT FROM THE E.P.A. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE STRONGLY OPPOSES SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION BUT THEY ALSO WROTE THAT THE CLEAN WATER ACT GRANTS STATES THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROTECTING WATER QUALITY, HOWEVER RECENT ACTION BY THE E.P.A. UPSET AND YOU IS PLANT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH -- IS UP PLANT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH ARBITRARY POWER THAT IS BEING EXERCISED EVEN OVER STATES WITH REGULATORY PROGRAMS. INDIVIDUALS AND FIRMS THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF AND OBTAIN PERMITS FROM STATE REGULATORS OUGHT NOT TO BE LEFT EXPOSED TO THE ENFORCEMENT WHIMS AND CAN PRISON OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHICH IS THE REALITY. FINALLY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE DEPARTMENTS OF AGRICULTURE ALSO TALK ABOUT THIS BIPARTISAN PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT ADDRESSES THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S ONGOING REGULATORY OVERREACH AND IT ALLOWS THE BASIS, IF WE PASS THIS BILL, FOR STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONCE AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. I HAVE STATED REPEATEDLY THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE DO HAVE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT IS THE CONCEPT OF ACCOUNTABILITY. WHERE IS SOMEONE ALLOWED TO KIND OF COMPREHEND AND GUESS WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES WHEN IT OVERREACHS? LET ME GIVE YOU ONE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE SINCE THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE DID AND IT STATES THE SAME CONCEPT THAT HAPPENS TO BE THERE. WE'LL CALL THIS GUY JEAN THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S HIS FIRST NAME. HE WAS A FARMER ON A FAMILY FARM , A SUGAR BEAT FARMER, WHICH I WOULD REMIND YOU IS A ROOT CROP. YOU TRY TO HAVE A SUGAR BEAT CROP IN WETLANDS AND YOU COME UP WITH ROTTED VEGETABLES. BUT ONE FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT FROM THESE AGENCIES DRIVING BY HIS PROPERTY WITHIN DAY, SEEING IT FLOODED, DECLEARED IT TO BE A WETLAND, EVEN THOUGH THE FARMER SAID THE ONLY REASON THE WATER IS THERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PIPE FROM THE CRICK THAT GOES OVER TO THE LAND AND WHEN THE FARMER REMOVED THE PIPE FROM THE CRICK TO SHOW THAT THE WATER WAS NOT NATURAL FLOWING INTO THAT AREA HE WAS THREATENED WITH JAIL TERM IF HE ACTUALLY MOVED THAT PIPE ONE MORE TIME. NOW EVEN THOUGH THEY TOOK CORE SAMPLES FROM THE WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICT TO PROOF THERE WAS TOO MUCH CLAY TO HAVE WATER BUBBLE UP FROM UNDERGROUND, THIS ONE BUREAUCRAT FROM THESE AGENCIES STILL MAINTAINS THIS WAS A WETLAND. WHEN ASKED HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO DETERMINE EVEN THOUGH THE SCIENCE IS AGAINST HIM THAT HE IS WRONG, HIS RESPONSE WAS SIX TO SEVEN YEARS BECAUSE I WANT TO GO THROUGH A WET AND DRY CYCLE TO SEE IF MAYBE PER CHANCE WATER MAY NOT COME UP AGAIN ON THIS PERSON. NOW, THE ISSUE IN WHY I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE FOR JEAN THIS FARM WAS HIS HERITAGE. MORE IMPORTANTLY IT WAS HIS RETIREMENT. AND IT WAS HIS LEGACY FOR HIS KIDS. AND WHAT ONE BUREAUCRAT USING THE BROAD POWERS GIVEN UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS ABLE TO DO IS BASICALLY IMPOSE A TAKING ON THIS PERSON'S PROPERTY WITHOUT EVER COMPENSATING HIM FOR, IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE LAND AWAY, THEY JUST TOLD HIM WHAT HE COULD DO WITH IT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE OF THAT REGULATION NOW ON HIS PROPERTY FOR WHAT HE COULD SELL HE WAS ABLE TO FINALLY UNLOAD HIS PROPERTY AT A QUARTER OF THE VALUE THAT A NEIGHBOR FROM WHICH THIS ONE BUREAUCRAT DID NOT SEE WAS ABLE TO SELL HIS EXACT SAME LOT ON THE EXACT SAME ROAD WITH THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF LAND. THAT IS THE UNFAIRNESS THAT HAS DEVELOPED WITH A BILL THAT IS SO LOOSELY WRITTEN, TWO SUPREME COURT DECISIONS HAVE CRITICIZED THE BILL AND IMPLORED CONGRESS TO GO BACK THERE AND DO OUR JOBS AND TO TIGHTEN IT UP SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONFLICTING STRATEGIES AND CONFLICTING PAT HERBS AND CONFLICTING RULES AND REGULATIONS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE. THERE IS A PATTERN OF ABUSE. IT HURTS PEOPLE. IT IS TIME TO RESPECT THE IDEA THAT STATES CARE AS MUCH ABOUT THEIR OWN STATES AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD CARE ABOUT THEIR STATE AND YOU CAN MAKE THE PRESUMPTION THEY PROBABLY CARE MORE. THAT'S WHY THIS IS A GOOD BILL. AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE OF FEDERALISM. THIS IS GOING BACK TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL CLEAN WATER ACT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, TONE COURAGE AND INDEED CONTROL AND ENSURE -- TO ENCOURAGE AND INDEED CONTROL AND ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD BE BIPARTISAN COOPERATION BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND UNFORTUNATELY AS THE YEARS HAVE PROGRESSED, THE ROLE OF THE STATES HAVE BEEN DIMINISHED BY CAPRICIOUS ACTS ON THE PARTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT CAN NO LONGER BE. THAT IS THE STATUS QUO THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE, THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL IS ATTEMPTING TO DO. MR. SPEAKER, IN CLOSING I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THE FAIRNESS OF THIS STRUCTURED RULE AND URGE ITS ADOPTION AS WELL AS URGING THE ADOPTION OF THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

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  • 01:05:47 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 01:06:01 PM

    MR. POLIS

    MR. SPEAKER. ON THAT I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 12-A OF RULE 1, THE HOUSE WILL NOW STAND IN RECESS SUBJECT TO THE CALL OF

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  • 01:59:56 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 52. HOUSE RESOLUTION NUMBER 347. RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR…

    NUMBER 52. HOUSE RESOLUTION NUMBER 347. RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H.R. 2018, TO AMEND THE FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH STATE TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 02:00:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR…

    THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 02:28:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 250. THE NAYS ARE 171. THE RESOLUTION IS…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 250. THE NAYS ARE 171. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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    FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO…

    FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS ON H 2018 AND ALSO -- ON H.R. 2018.

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  • 02:28:36 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 AND RULE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2018. THE CHAIR APPOINTS THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. POE, TO PRESIDE OVER THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

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  • 02:29:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR…

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2018 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 02:29:19 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH…

    THE FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH STATE TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 02:29:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME. THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. GIBBS, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, WILL EACH CONTROL 30 MINUTES. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OFF THE FLOOR. THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 02:30:04 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 02:30:08 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018, THE CLEAN WATER…

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018, THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. ALMOST FOUR DECADES AGO WHEN I WENT ENACTED THE CLEAN WATER ACT, CONGRESS ESTABLISHED A SYSTEM OF COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM OF MAKING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, THE E.P.A., AND THE STATE PARTNERS IN REGULATING THE NATION'S WATER QUALITY AND ALLOCATED THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES FOR DEALING WITH DAY-TO-DAY WATER POLLUTION PATROL MATTERS TO THE STATES. FOR MOST OF ALMOST FOUR DECADES, THIS SYSTEM OF COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM BETWEEN THE E.P.A. AND THE STATES HAS WORKED QUITE WELL. HOWEVER, IN RECENT YEARS THE E.P.A. HAS BEGUN TO USE QUESTIONABLE TACTICS TO USURP THE STATE'S ROLE UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT IN SETTING WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND INVALIDATE LEGALLY ISSUED PERMITS BY THE STATES. E.P.A. HAS DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF STATE STANDARDS SECOND-GUESSING STATES WITH RESPECT TO HOW STANDARDS ARE TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND EVEN SECOND-GUESSING E.P.A.'S OWN PRIOR DETERMINATIONS THAT THE STATES' STANDARDS MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. E.P.A. HAS ALSO INSERTED ITSELF INTO THE STATES AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS' PERMIT ISSUANCE DECISIONS AND THE SECOND-GUESSING STATE AND OTHER AGENCY'S PERMITTING DECISIONS. E.P.A.'S RECENT ACTIONS INCREASINGLY ARE AMOUNTING TO BULLYING THE STATES ARE UNPRECEDENTED. H.R. 2018 WAS I-DUESED TO CLARIFY AND RESTORE THE LONG-STANDING BALANCE THAT HAD EXISTED BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE E.P.A. AS CO-REGULATORS UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF STATES TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND PERMITTING. THE BILL WAS CAREFULLY AND NARROWLY CRAFTED TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF STATES TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR OWN WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND PERMITS WITHOUT UNDO INTERFERENCE ON SECOND-GUESSING FROM E.P.A. BUREAUCRATS IN WASHINGTON WITH LITTLE OR NO KNOWLEDGE OF LOCAL WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS. THE LEGISLATION REINS IN E.P.A. FROM UNILATERALLY ISSUING A REVISED OR NEW ORDER QUALITY STANDARD FOR A POLLUTANT WHENEVER A STATE HAS ADOPTED AN E.P.A. -- AND E.P.A. HAS ALREADY APPROVED A STANDARD FOR THAT POLLUTANT. H.R. 2018 RESTRICTS E.P.A. FROM WITHDRAWING ITS PREVIOUS APPROVAL OF A STATE'S MPDS WATER QUALITY PERMITTING PROGRAM OR FROM PLIMENTING FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR STATE WATER QUALITY PERMITTING PROGRAM ON THE BASIS THAT THE E.P.A. DISAGREES WITH THE STATE. FURTHER, THE BILL RESTRICTS E.P.A.'S -- E.P.A. FROM EJECTING TO MPS PERMITS ISSUED BY A STATE. MOREOVER, THE BILL CLARIFIES THAT E.P.A. CAN DEAL AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER ACT WHEN THE STATE CONCURS WITH THE VETO. THESE LIMITATIONS APPLY ONLY IN SITUATIONS WHERE E.P.A. IS ATTEMPTING TO CONTRADICT AND UNILATERALLY FORCE ITS OWN ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL POLICY ON A STATE'S WATER QUALITY PROGRAM. BY LIMITING SUCH AN OVERREACHING BY THE E.P.A., H.R. 2018 IN NO WAY AFFECTS E.P.A.'S PROPER ROLE IN REVIEWING STATE PERMITS AND STANDARDS AND COORDINATION POLLUTION CONTROL EFFORTS BETWEEN THE STATES. E.P.A. JUST HAS TO GET BACK TO A MORE COLLABORATIVE ROLE IN ITS LONG PLAY AS THE OVERSEER OF THE STATE'S IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. DETRACTORS OF THIS LEGISLATION CLAIM THAT THE BILL ONLY INTENDS TO DISRUPT THE COMPLEMENTARY ROLES OF E.P.A. AND THE STATES ON THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND ELIMINATE E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY AND PUBLIC HEALTH IN DOWNSTREAM STATES FROM ACTIONS IN UPSTREAM STATES. IN REALITY THESE DETRACTORS WANT TO CENTRALIZE POWER IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO IT CAN DOMINATE WATER QUALITY REGULATION IN THE STATES. IMPLICIT IN THEIR MESSAGE IS THAT THEY DO NOT TRUST THE STATES IN PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF THEIR WATERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR CITIZENS. THIS BILL RETURNS THE BALANCE, CERTAINTY, AND COOPERATION BETWEEN THE STATES AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN REGARDS TO THE ENVIRONMENT BY OUR ECONOMY, JOB CREATORS, AND PERMIT HOLDERS HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR. WELL OVER 100 ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING A WIDE VARIETY OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ENTITIES SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. JUST TO NAME A FEW THESE ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDE THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE DEPARTMENTS OF AGRICULTURE. THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU FEDERATION. THE NATIONAL MINING ASSOCIATION. THE NATIONAL WATER RESOURCES ASSOCIATION. THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HOME BUILDERS. AND THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF AMERICA. I URGE PASSAGE OF H.R. 2018 AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:35:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR.…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:35:06 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 02:35:13 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    OF H.R. 2018. FOR FAR TOO MANY YEARS NOW MY STATE AND OTHERS THROUGHOUT…

    OF H.R. 2018. FOR FAR TOO MANY YEARS NOW MY STATE AND OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE APPALACHIAN REGION THAT PRODUCE COAL TO POWER OUR NATION HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING UNDER THE WEIGHT OF AN UNCERTAIN FEDERAL PERMITTING PROCESS. THAT UNCERTAINTY HAS LEFT COAL MINERS AND MINING COMMUNITIES LIVING IN AN UNTENABLE LIMBO. THE RESULT HAS BEEN THE CREATION OF A ATMOSPHERE OF WORRY, DISTRUST, AND OF BITTERNESS. I HAD HOPED THAT UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION WE WOULD FINALLY FIND OUR WAY TO SOME FAIR -- CLARITY AND COMMON GROUND, UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE. RATHER THAN BRINGING SIDES TOGETHER AND FOSTERING BALANCE, THE E.P.A.'S ACTIONS IN RECENT MONTHS HAVE WIDENED THE DIVISION. THEY HAVE SPURRED THE TENSION OF DIVIDED OPINION OVER SERVICE COAL MINING TO FRACTURE WHAT SHOULD BE A COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP AMONG THE FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES WITH PERMITTING RESPONSIBILITY. NOT ONLY IS THE E.P.A. REACHING INTO THE CLEAN WATER ACT AUTHORITIES UNDER THE JURISDICTION CORPS OF ENGINEERS, IT IS REACHING INTO THE STATES AND ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL THEIR WATER PROTECTION PROGRAMS. OPPONENTS OF THIS LEGISLATION WILL ARGUE THAT THE E.P.A. DOES NOT HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO LIMIT OR OTHERWISE SUPERSEDE THE AUTHORITY OF THE STATES TO ISSUE WATER QUALITY PERMITS UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT, SECTION 401. BUT THAT LACK OF STATUTORY AUTHORITY HAS NOT PREVENTED THEM FROM TRYING TO DO SO. IN ITS VERY FIRST OFFICIAL STEP TO CHANGE THE RULES OF SURFACE MINE PERMITTING ON JUNE 11, 2009, THE E.P.A. ENTERED INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT. IT STATES, AND I QUOTE, E.P.A. WILL IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW OF WATER POLLUTION PERMITS FOR DISCHARGES FROM VALID FIELDS UNDER CWA SECTION 402 AND OF STATE WATER QUALITY CERTIFICATIONS UNDER C.W.A. SECTION 401 BY TAKING APPROPRIATE STEPS TO ASSIST STATES TO STRENGTHEN STATE REGULATION ENFORCEMENT AND PERMITTING OF SURFACE MINE OPERATIONS UNDER THESE PROGRAMS, END QUOTE. THE AGENCY MADE CLAIM IT IS ONLY FOLLOWING THE LAW AND, QUOTE, ASSISTING, END QUOTE, THE STATES. BUT THE REALITY IS THE AGENCY IS STRONG ARMING THE STATES. JUST AS IT IS MUSCLING IN ON THE JURISDICTION OF OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES. BY CREATING WHOLLY NEW CRITERIA AND NEW TIMELINESS FOR CLEAN WATER ACT PERMITS AND STUBBORNLY INSISTING FROM ON HIGH THAT THE STATES ADHERE TO THEM, THE E.P.A. IS IMPOSING ITS OWN WILL AND ITS OWN INTERPRETATIONS OF WATER QUALITY STANDARDS ON THE STATES. IT HAS DRAWN A LINE IN THE SAND AND IT IS DARING THE STATES TO CROSS OVER IT. TO MY MIND THE MOST LOGICAL SOLUTION WOULD BE FOR ALL SIDES TO COME TOGETHER. THE FEDERAL AGENCIES OUGHT TO WORK TOGETHER IN A COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATES. THAT WAS THE VISION OF C.W.A. AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF 2018, THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. I THINK WE WOULD ALL PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO CRAFT THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION. CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE THAT AGENCIES WORK WITH EACH OTHER, STATES, AND CONFINES OF THEIR STATUTORY AUTHORITY T WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES AND DID NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE LAW THROUGH GUIDANCE AND M.O.U.'S. WHEN THEY DO SO, WHEN THEY HAVE USED DID -- ABUSE THEIR POWERS, CONGRESS SERVES AS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK ON THIS THEM. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:38:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. GIBBS

    TO YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO AS MUCH TIME AS HE NEEDS TO CONSUME,…

    TO YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO AS MUCH TIME AS HE NEEDS TO CONSUME, THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. MICA.

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  • 02:38:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA MICA FOR AS MUCH TIME AS HE WISHES TO CONSUME.

  • 02:38:59 PM

    MR. MICA

    MR. GIBBS. MR. SPEAKER, AND ALSO THE RANKING MEMBER OF OUR FULL COMMITTEE,…

    MR. GIBBS. MR. SPEAKER, AND ALSO THE RANKING MEMBER OF OUR FULL COMMITTEE, MR. RAHALL. I WANT TO THANK AGAIN MR. GIBBS AND MR. RAHALL FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. I'M PLEASED TO BE A SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 2018. WE CALL THIS THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. IT IS INDEED A BIPARTISAN EFFORT . HAS BROAD SUPPORT FROM BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. IT IS A MEASURE TO RESTORE SOME BALANCE BETWEEN E.P.A., OUR FEDERAL REGULATORY BODY THAT OVERSEES THE CLEAN WATER ACT, AND OUR STATES WHICH ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME OF THAT IMPORTANT WORK THAT ENSURES THAT WE HAVE CLEAN WATER. NOW, I KNOW THERE IS NO ONE THAT WANTS TO IN ANY WAY DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF CLEAN WATER, THAT WANTS TO LOWER STANDARDS FOR EMISSIONS, THAT IS NOT A GOOD STEWARD OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE ACTION THAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM E.P.A. HAS UNLEASHED AN UNPRECEDENTED BACKLASH. EVERYONE HAS CALLED THIS A HUGE POWER GRAB BY E.P.A. AND E.P.A. HAS INDEED CREATED A REGULATORY NIGHTMARE THAT AFFECTS ALMOST EVERY STATE IN THE UNION. OUR GOAL HERE AGAIN IS TO ENSURE THAT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SETS STANDARDS AND THAT WE DO HAVE PROPER ROLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE CLEAN WATER ACT. AND ONCE STATES HAVE TAKEN ACTION, HAVE THEIR PLANS APPROVED, THAT THERE CAN BE SOME SENSE OF RELIABILITY AND STABILITY IN THE DECISION THAT E.P.A. HAS CONCURRED WITH. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN NOW IS THE E.P.A. CHANGING THE RULES AFTER STATES HAVE HAD A COMMITMENT AND OUTLINED -- OUTLINE OF THE PROTOCOLS THEY MUST FOLLOW. RAISING COMPLETE HAVOC. IN FACT, THE AGENCY'S ACTIONS COULD JEOPARDIZE MORE THAN $220 BILLION WORTH OF ANNUAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE CLEAN WATER ACT, SECTION 402 AND 404 PERMITS. SO AGAIN THIS IS ALMOST AN UNPRECEDENTED REGULATORY GRAB CREATING A POTENTIAL NIGHTMARE, LEAVING PROJECTS ON HOLD. THESE PROJECTS HAVE NOT ONLY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A JOB AND EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE UNITED STATES AT A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR OUR ECONOMIES. SO THIS BILL HAS BEEN VERY NARROWLY CRAFTED -- DRAFTED TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF STATES TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT PROTECTING WATER QUALITY IN THEIR STATES, AND TO AGAIN IMPOSE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON E.P.A. AND ITS OVERREACH AND TO TRY TO PROHIBIT SOME OF THIS SECOND-GUESSING OR DELAYS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING A STATE'S WATER QUALITY PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE STANDARDS AND DECISIONS THAT THEY HAVE MADE UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. AND THIS IS ALSO ALL DONE AFTER, AGAIN, E.P.A. HAS ALREADY APPROVED A STATE'S PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S TAKING PLACE. THE IMPACT ISN'T JUST FLORIDA, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF ARTICLES HERE I'LL REFER TO. AND THE REACTION IN THE SUNSHINE NEWS WHICH IS PUBLISHED THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, OUR FORMER U.S. REPRESENTATIVE WHO SERVED IN THIS HOUSE WHO IS NOW THE AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER IN FLORIDA, HE RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT E.P.A. ESSENTIALLY IGNORES CONCERNS ABOUT THE EFFECT OF IMPLEMENTATION THAT IT WOULD HAVE ON FLORIDA'S ECONOMY. AND HE SUPPORTS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT TO, AGAIN, BACK UP THE NEW RULES WITH SOUND SCIENCE. SO WHETHER IT'S FLORIDA OR HERE'S A FOX NEWS REPORT RELATED TO APPALACHIA, APPALACHIAN COAL MINERS SAYS E.P.A. RULES ARE KILLING THEIR JOBS. ANOTHER ARTICLE IN THE FLORIDA TIMES UNION, THE SCIENTISTS, E.P.A. RACE TO PROTECT FLORIDA WATERS COULD LEAVE SCIENCE BEHIND. SO WE JOIN A CHORUS OF NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS. MR. GIBBS TALKED ABOUT THEM. WE HAVE, AGAIN, A HUGE NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS, THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AMERICAN FARM BUREAU, THE NATIONAL MINING ASSOCIATION, ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT DISTRIBUTORS. ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF AMERICA. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS. GROUPS FROM LABOR AND OTHERS WHO ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN E.P.A. OVERREACH AND WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT BOTH -- WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO ACHIEVE, AGAIN WITH HAVING THE STATES PROPERLY IMPLEMENT CLEAN WATER REGULATIONS, BUT ALSO A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON EMPLOYMENT AT A VERY PRECAREOUS TIME IN THE ECONOMY OF THIS NATION. . SO I'D URGE SUPPORT OF THIS BIPARTISAN EFFORT AND URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AND YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO MR. GIBBS.

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  • 02:45:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM FLORIDA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN…

    FROM FLORIDA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:45:38 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    I NOW YIELD TO A DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN FROM NEW YORK, THE RANKING…

    I NOW YIELD TO A DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN FROM NEW YORK, THE RANKING SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER ON OUR WATER RESOURCES COMMITTEE,

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  • 02:45:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 02:45:50 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER FOR YIELDING ME TIME.…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER FOR YIELDING ME TIME. I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO H.R. 2018, THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. DESPITE SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS I HEARD IN FAVOR OF THIS LEGISLATION, H.R. 2018 HAS NOT BEEN NARROWLY CRAFTED TO ADDRESS ISSUES RELATED TO NUTRIENT CRITERIA AND SURFACE COAL MINING. I ECHO THE ADMINISTRATION'S OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL WHEN I SAY THAT H.R. 2018 WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERMINE THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND COULD ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, THE ECONOMY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. WHILE PROPONENTS OF THIS LEGISLATION ARGUE THAT THE CHANGES TO THE CLEAN WATER PERMITTING INSTRUCTURE ARE TARGETED TO ADDRESS THE DEVELOPMENT OF NUTRIENT CRITERIA, SUCH AS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE FACT IS THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS DRAFTED TO INCLUDE ANY POLLUTANT, MEAN THAT ITS REACH EXTENT TO ANY DISCHARGE TO ANY SOURCE TO ANY WATER BODY IN THE UNITED STATES. UNDER THIS LEGISLATION, E.P.A. WILL ALSO BE PROHIBITED FROM RECOMMENDING STRICTER DISCHARGE STANDARDS FOR TOXIC POLLUTANTS SUCH AS LEAD OR MERCURY, EVEN IF THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN HEALTH IS AT STAKE UNLESS THE STATE CONSENTS TO SUCH CHANGES. IN MY VIEW, THIS POLICY DOES NOT MOVE OUR NATION FORWARD BUT RATHER REVERSES OUR DIRECTION AND MOVES OUR NATION BACK 40 YEARS TO BEFORE THE ENACTMENT OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. SOME OF MY FRIENDS WOULD LIKE TO AVOID A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL APPROACH TO REGULATING CLEAN WATER. I WOULD TOO. LUCKILY FOR US THE BASIC STRUCTURE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT ALREADY PROVIDES STATES ENORMOUS FLEXIBILITY IN SETTING WATER STANDARDS. IT ALLOWS STATES TO ASSUME AUTHORITY OVER DAY-TO-DAY IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STATE PERMITTING PROGRAM AND ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE MORE STRINGENT CONTROL OVER POLLUTION WITHIN THEIR BORDERS. THE CLEAN WATER ACT MERELY SETS THE BASELINE MINIMUM WATER QUALITY. 70% OF THE NATION'S WATERS WERE UNSAFE FOR FISHING, SWIMMING OR DRINKING. WE ARE NOW AT 30% OF OUR WATERS IN SUCH A CONDITION. AND I VERY MUCH DOUBT THAT ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD WANT TO RETURN TO THE DAYS OF 70%. SOME OF MY FRIEND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE ARGUED THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS NECESSARY BECAUSE STATE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT CLEAN WATER PROGRAMS MUCH IMPROVED SINCE 1972. I AGREE THAT INDIVIDUAL STATES HAVE INCREASED THEIR CAPACITY TO PROTECT THE WATER QUALITY WITHIN THEIR STATE. HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS ALSO FAIR TO SUGGEST THAT THE CLEAN WATER ACT HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL TO THIS NATION'S EFFORTS TO DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF WATERS MEETING THE FISHABLE AND SWIMMABLE STANDARD SINCE ENACTMENT OF THIS STATUTE IN 1972. IN MY VIEW, THE ELIMINATION OF E.P.A.'S OVERSIGHT AND AUTHORITY FOR STANDARDS WOULD HAVE A POTENTIAL RACE TO THE BOTTOM FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF POLLUTION DISCHARGE LIMITS WITHIN A STATE'S BORDERS. WE HAVE SEEN DISPUTES BETWEEN OKLAHOMA AND ARKANSAS. THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE STATE TO SEND ITS POLLUTION DOWNSTREAM TO THE OTHER STATE IS REAL AND NEEDS TO BE PREVENTED. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ROLE OF THE CONGRESS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF E.P.A. AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT HAS SERVED OUR NATION WELL FOR OVER 40 YEARS. IT HAS PROTECTED PUBLIC HEALTH AND HAS PROTECTED THE MANY BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRY THAT RELY ON CLEAN WATER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD THE STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY ON H.R. 2018 AND THE E.P.A.'S ANALYSIS OF H.R. 2018.

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  • 02:49:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS…

    THIS WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:49:30 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    WISH TO YOLD FOUR MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. SHUSTER.

  • 02:49:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

  • 02:49:36 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018,…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018, THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. AS A MEMBER OF THE WATER SUBCOMMITTEE AND CO-SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, I APPLAUD CHAIRMAN MICA, CHAIRMAN GIBBS AND RANKING MEMBER RAHALL FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS IMPORTANT BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION. H.R. 2018 SEEKS TO REVERSE THE EROSION OF THE STATES' AUTHORITY AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THIS WELL-ESTABLISHED AND EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIP HAS COME UNDER INCREASING ATTACK BY THE E.P.A. BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND E.P.A. HAS UNDERMINED THE STATES' SHARED REGULATORY AUTHORITY. OUR BILL PRESERVES THE SYSTEM OF COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ESTABLISHED UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND IN WHICH THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ARE ALLOCATED TO THE STATES. THE BILL RESTRICTS E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO SECOND GUESS OR DELAY STATES' PERMITTING AND WATER QUALITY CERTIFICATION DECISIONS UNDER THE C.W.A. ONCE THE E.P.A. HAS ALREADY APPROVED A STATE'S PROGRAM. WE MUST PUT AN END TO E.P.A.'S ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL AND THE ECONOMY'S STIFLING AGENDA. THIS ASSURES THE COMMONSENSE REGULATORY REGIME THAT PROTECTS OUR ENVIRONMENT WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PROTECTING OUR NATION'S FARMERS, MINERS AND OTHER BUSINESSES CRITICAL TO OUR ECONOMY. I HAVE A LETTER HERE THAT I BELIEVE MR. GIBBS IS GOING TO OFFER TO THE RECORD LATER THAT WAS SIGNED BY 121 ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING A BROAD CROSS-SECTION OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, UNITED IN STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT. THIS BILL ADDRESSES ONE OF THE MANY AREAS IN WHICH E.P.A. HAS OVERSTEPPED THEIR AUTHORITY AND TAKEN ACTION THAT IS DEEPLY HURTFUL TO OUR ECONOMY. IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE E.P.A. HAS INCREASED THEIR INTERFERENCE TO THE COMMONWEALTH TO UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS. CREATING NUMEROUS DELAYS AND PROBLEMS FOR THE COMMONWEALTH IN OUR DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WITH NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS OR ENVIRONMENTAL PAYOFF. I RECEIVED COPIES OF NUMEROUS LETTERS FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA D.E.P. SECRETARY TO THE E.P.A. -- CITING E.P.A.'S INTERFERENCE AND UNWILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE WITH THE STATE ON THE ISSUE FOR THREE DECADES. THE FIRST EXAMPLE IS REGARDING THE NATIONAL POLLUTANT ELIMINATION SYSTEM, THE NPDES PERMITS WHICH HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR SEVERAL STATES IN ADDITION TO PENNSYLVANIA. PENNSYLVANIA D.E.P. HAS PRIMARY AUTHORITY OVER THE NPEDS PERMITTING AUTHORITY SINCE 1994 AND THE E.P.A. HAS JUST RECENTLY STARTED TO INTERFERE IN THE PENNSYLVANIA PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY IN MINING-RELATED PERMITS. THE E.P.A. SPECIFICALLY INCREASED THE PERMIT REVIEW OF MINING RELATED PERMITS UNDER NEW GUIDANCE WHICH IS HAS CREATED LONG DELAYS AND NO ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS AND COSTING PENNSYLVANIA JOBS AND BENEFITS. THE PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES RECENTLY PASSED A RESOLUTION STATING THAT E.P.A. IS OVERSTEPPING D.E.P. WITHOUT ANY FEDERAL, LEGISLATIVE OR REGULATORY CHANGES TO SUPPORT THIS INCREASED OVERSIGHT. THIS RESOLUTION REASSERTS PENNSYLVANIA'S ROLE OVER THE D.E.P. PERMITTING FOR THE STATE. I ASK THIS BE SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD.

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  • 02:52:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE.

  • 02:52:49 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    WORKED FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ON CHESAPEAKE BAY ISSUES.…

    WORKED FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ON CHESAPEAKE BAY ISSUES. THEY DO NOT ACTIVELY REFLECT PENNSYLVANIA'S ISSUES. A LETTER FROM THE SECRETARY TO LISA JACKSON STATES, PENNSYLVANIA D.E.P. AND OUR MUNICIPALITY STAKE HOLDERS HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH THE CONTINUED FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES OF PENNSYLVANIA'S UNIQUE MUNICIPAL STRUCTURES. THEY DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN COLLABORATIVE. AGAIN, E.P.A. -- SENT ANOTHER LETTER TO THE D.E.P. WITH THE HANDLING OF WASTE WATER FOR THE MARCELLUS DRILLING, OVERSTEPPING THE D.E.P. CRITICIZING APPROACH AND DEMANDING PENNSYLVANIA DIRECT THE SAMPLING AND MONITORING PROGRAM. SEEMS THE E.P.A. IS LISTENING MORE TO "THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAN THE STATE REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY REGULATING AND MONITORING THE ISSUES ON THE GROUND. THE E.P.A. ALONG WITH OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES CONTINUE TO GRAB FOR MORE AUTHORITY OVERRIDING LONG-STANDING STATE POLICIES -- CAN I ASK FOR ANOTHER 15 SECONDS.

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  • 02:53:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

  • 02:54:01 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    THANK YOU. REGULATORY OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL…

    THANK YOU. REGULATORY OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. IN PARTICULAR, STATES SUCH AS PENNSYLVANIA WITH LONG-STANDING AND RESPECTIVE PROGRAMS. THE E.P.A. NEEDS TO BACK OFF. PENNSYLVANIA ISSUES IS DIFFERENT THAN TEXAS ISSUES. NO ONE WANTS TO PROTECT PENNSYLVANIA BETTER THAN THE STATE AGENCIES WANTING TO PROTECT IT. I STRONGLY SUPPORT H.R. 2018 AND, AGAIN, CONGRATULATE MR. GIBBS ON A JOB WELL DONE ON THIS LEGISLATION. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:54:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:54:33 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO A DISTINGUISH MEMBER OF OUR…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO A DISTINGUISH MEMBER OF OUR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. HOLDEN.

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  • 02:54:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 02:54:42 PM

    MR. HOLDEN

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM WEST VIRGINIA FOR YIELDING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN…

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM WEST VIRGINIA FOR YIELDING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 2018. THE CLEAN WATER ACT CREATED A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO KEEP OUR WATERWAYS HEALTHY. HOWEVER, THE E.P.A. HAS REPEATEDLY TRIED TO IMPOSE FEDERAL STANDARDS ON INDIVIDUAL STATES. IN PENNSYLVANIA, THE E.P.A. IMPOSED AN UNACHIEVABLE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL STANDARD FOR WATER QUALITY THAT IGNORES THE ECONOMIC CONCERNS OF OUR FARMERS, ENERGY PRODUCERS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS GROUP COST PENNSYLVANIA THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND THREATEN OUR ENERGY PRODUCTION. THIS BILL RESTORES THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE STATES AND E.P.A. AS CORE REGULATORS UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. STATES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE DEPENDENT UPON CONGRESS TO REMOVE REGULATORY ROADBLOCKS TO ECONOMIC GROWTH AND JOB CREATION IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHILE PROTECTING OUR VAST NATURAL RESOURCES. THIS LEGISLATION IS ESSENTIAL TO PROVIDING MUCH-NEEDED CERTAINTY TO SUPPORT INVESTMENT THAT WILL CREATE JOBS IN AMERICAN MINING, MANUFACTURING, AGRICULTURE AND RELATED INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE BORNE THE BRUNT OF E.P.A.'S REGULATORY OVERREACH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. CHOIP THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. --

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  • 02:55:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:55:59 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE, MR.…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE, MR. GUNTA.

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  • 02:56:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 02:56:06 PM

    MR. GUNTA

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING ME TIME…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING ME TIME ON THIS BILL. I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR WORKING IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO ADDRESS THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FIRST BILL I AUTHORED WHEN I CAME TO CONGRESS WAS THE GREAT BAY COMMUNITY PROTECTION ACT. IT'S A SMALLER VERSION AND A MORE FOCUSED VERSION OF A BILL IN THE HOUSE THAT THIS BILL IS ADDRESSING TODAY, THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT OF 2011. I'M PROUD TO BE A CO-SPONSOR OF H.R. 2018. I THINK THIS BILL AMENDS THE C.W.A. FOR EACH STATES TO MAKE REGULATIONS FOR EACH STATE'S WATER STANDARDS AND NOT DELAY THE STATE'S PERMITS AND WATER QUALITY CERTIFICATION ISSUES UNDER THE C.W.A. IN CERTAIN RESPECTS. THIS LEGISLATION WILL HELP SEVEN COMMUNITIES IN MY STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SAVE $250 MILLION IN ENSURING THAT WE FOCUS ON CLEAN WATER STANDARDS BUT ALLOWING THE STATE TO DO SO IN A TIMELY MANNER. I URGE PASSAGE OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:57:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:57:19 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HONORED TO YIELD A MINUTE TO ANOTHER DISTINGUISHED…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HONORED TO YIELD A MINUTE TO ANOTHER DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. ALTMIRE, ONE MINUTE.

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  • 02:57:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 02:57:29 PM

    MR. ALTMIRE

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BIPARTISAN BILL WHICH WAS CRAFTED…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BIPARTISAN BILL WHICH WAS CRAFTED AND INTRODUCED WITH JOB CREATION AND REGULATORY CLARITY AS ITS TOP PRIORITY. THE CLEAN WATER ACT ORIGINALLY CREATED A WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. RECENTLY THAT HAS BEEN UNDERMINED BY UNNECESSARY INTERVENTION BY THE E.P.A. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IMPOSES IMPOSSIBLE STANDARDS ON JOB CREATORS, THE ENTIRE ECONOMY SUFFERS. BUSINESSES GO THROUGH RIGOROUS PROCESSES TO RECEIVE PERMITS FROM STATE GOVERNMENTS TO PROCEED WITH WORK THAT CREATES JOBS AND PROVIDES REVENUE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ONLY TO BE UNDERCUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY E.P.A. REGULATIONS THAT DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOCAL CONTEXT OR ECONOMIC IMPACT. MY COLLEAGUES SHOULD VOTE YES ON THIS BILL TO PREVENT THIS FURTHER E.P.A. OVERREACH, AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:58:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:58:28 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA, MR. COBLE.

  • 02:58:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NORTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. COBLE

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO FOR YIELDING. I COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY TO…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO FOR YIELDING. I COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY TO EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT FOR H.R. 2018. I COMMEND CHAIRMAN MICA AND RANKING MEMBER RAHALL FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN CRAFTING A BILL THAT BRINGS BACK A SANE BALANCE BETWEEN THE STATES AND FEDERAL REGULATORS. BY THE E.P.A.'S OWN ADMISSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, CURRENT REGULATIONS WILL COST THE UNITED STATES $109 BILLION BY THE END OF YEAR 2020. IN AREAS OF THE SIXTH DISTRICT OF NORTH CAROLINA, E.P.A. CURRENTLY HAS THE ABILITY TO SECOND GUESS OUR DELAY THE STATE'S CLEAN WATER ACT PERMITS EVEN THOUGH IT HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE STATE'S PROGRAM. IT IS FURTHERMORE IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU FEDERATION, AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, STRONGLY SUPPORTS THIS LEGISLATION, AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO KEEP THE E.P.A. OFF THE FAMILY FARM. CURRENT E.P.A. REGS WILL HAVE A DISASTROUS EFFECT ON FARMERS, YOURY OWNERS AND WILL ADD TREMENDOUS COSTS AND DELAYS TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE PASSAGE OF 2018 AND AGAIN THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO FOR YIELDING AND YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 02:59:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA YIELDS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA YIELDS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:59:51 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HAPPY TO YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO A FORMER MEMBER OF OUR…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HAPPY TO YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO A FORMER MEMBER OF OUR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, NOW A MEMBER OF THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. BLUMENAUER.

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  • 03:00:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM OREGON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

  • 03:00:05 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    A MEMBER IN MY HEART, MR. RAHALL. I APPRECIATE YOUR COURTESY IN PERMITTING…

    A MEMBER IN MY HEART, MR. RAHALL. I APPRECIATE YOUR COURTESY IN PERMITTING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS. I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO DEBATE ON THE FLOOR, AND I REALLY COULD NOT DISAGREE MORE WITH THE PROPONENTS OF THIS LEGISLATION. THEY WOULD SEEK TO OVERTURN A 40-YEAR RECORD OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. LOOK AT THE RECORD OF WHAT STATES HAVE DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS DEALING WITH WATER QUALITY AND IT ISN'T THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVERREACHED AND THE STATES HAD DONE TOO MUCH, WE HAVE THE CLEAN WATER ACT BECAUSE THE STATES CONSISTENTLY FAILED TO MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS. TODAY THERE ARE WIDE VARIATIONS AROUND AMERICA IN TERMS OF HOW ZEALOUSLY INDIVIDUAL STATES TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND HOW THEY BALANCE. THERE'S TREMENDOUS PRESSURE FOR SHORT-TERM ECONOMIC GAIN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. IN SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY PEOPLE DON'T -- IT DOESN'T BOTHER THEM TO BULLDOZE MOUNTAIN TOPS INTO STREAMS INDIANA FACT E.P.A. HAS NOT BEEN -- INTO STREETS AND IN FACT E.P.A. HAS NOT BEEN VIGILANT IN KEELING -- DEALING WITH THAT. IT'S ONLY BEEN RECENTLY THAT WE'VE BASKETBALL COMING TO GRIPS WITH THAT ISSUE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT E.P.A. HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITH HOLD, TO HAVE SOME SANCTION WHEN STAKES DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH ON -- STATES DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR PLANS. THIS BILL WOULD TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY OF E.P.A. TO HAVE SANCTIONS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME MEDIATION WHEN THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN STATES. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS COMBINED TO PENNSYLVANIA OR -- CONFINED TO PENNSYLVANIA OR WEST VIRGINIA OR OREGON BECAUSE THEIR WATERWAYS ARE INTERCONNECTED, THEY TRANSCEND BOUNDARIES. WE NEED TO HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKING SURE THAT AT A MINIMUM THERE ARE REASONABLE STANDARDS THAT ARE ENFORCED AND THAT THE PLANS THAT ONE ADMINISTRATION ON A STATE LEVEL COMMITS TO ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THROUGH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND VERY MUCH TIME ON GOOGLE TO FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WHERE LOCAL AUTHORITIES, WHERE STATE AUTHORITIES ARE NOT MEETING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF WATER QUALITY. I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A STEP BACK. LUCKILY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENACTED INTO LAW, THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD VETO IT, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT GETS VERY FAR IN THE OTHER BODY. LOOK AT -- AND FRANKLY LOOKING AT THE LIST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, THE LIST THAT WAS CITED OF THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THIS ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHAMPIONED CLEAN WATER, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT WANT LOOSER RESTRICTIONS, THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO POLLUTE MORE, WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT FISH AND WILDLIFE, PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, THEY ARE UNIFORMLY OPPOSED TO THIS LEGISLATION. MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS IMPORTANT BUSINESS. THERE ARE ECONOMICS INVOLVED WITH PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. IN STATE AFTER STATE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE BY HAVING HEALTHY HUNTING AND FISHING, THERE IS MONEY TO BE SAVED BY HAVING HEALTHY WATERWAYS AND HEALTHY COMMUNITIES. AND IF WE DON'T STOP THE POLLUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE THEN THAT PUTS THE BURDEN ON LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO SPEND MORE ON WATER QUALITY AND WATER TREATMENT. I STRONGLY SUGGEST MY COLLEAGUES TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE LAST 40 YEARS, LOOK AT THE UNEVEN APPLICATION OF CLEAN WATER AT THE STATE LEVEL, LOOK AT HOW JUDICIOUS APPROACH ON THE PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS HELPED PROMOTE COMPLIANCE, EVEN THE SO-CALLED VETO POWER OF E.P.A. HAS BEEN INVOKED ONLY 13 TIMES IN 38 YEARS. THIS IS A BAD BILL, IT SHOULD BE REJECTED.

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  • 03:04:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:04:40 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M READY TO CLOSE AS WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS ON MY SIDE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M READY TO CLOSE AS WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS ON MY SIDE UNDER GENERAL DEBATE. SO I'LL GIVE MY CLOSING COMMENTS NOW. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT, MR. CHAIRMAN?

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  • 03:04:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA HAS 17 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. RAHALL

    YOU. THIS IS ABOUT THE PROCESS AS I DESCRIBED IN MY OPENING COMMENTS, NOT…

    YOU. THIS IS ABOUT THE PROCESS AS I DESCRIBED IN MY OPENING COMMENTS, NOT THE POLICY. THIS BILL IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY SUPPORT CLEAN, SAFE WATER, WE ALL SUPPORT CLEAN, SAFE WATER. I DO NOT KNOW A SINGLE MEMBER IN THIS HOUSE THAT WANTS TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON THE GAINS THAT THIS NATION HAS MADE IN THE LAST 40 YEARS TO CLEAN UP OUR RIVERS AND STREAMS. THIS BILL IS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND PRECEDENT, IT IS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING ONE FEDERAL AGENCY TO RUN ROUGH SHOD OVER THE LAW, OVER THE STATES AND OVER OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES TO SET POLICY ACCORDING TO POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING ANY AGENCY OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE RUN IN THAT MANNER. IF THIS CONGRESS ALLOWS THE E.P.A. TO PUSH THE NFL -- THE ENVELOPE IN CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW, CIRCUMVENTING PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, IT LAYS THE LEGAL GROUNDWORK FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING. MAYBE UNDER THE GUISE OF CLEANER AIR AND CLEANER WATER, MAYBE UNDER THE GUISE OF LOWERING THOSE STANDARDS. BUT THE PRECEDENT THAT WOULD BE SET COULD BE DEVASTATING. BY NOT TAKING ACTION THE CONGRESS IS GIVING THE E.P.A. THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT IT DEEMS POLITICALLY NECESSARY AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS AND EVERY CONGRESS HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RESIST. SO THIS BILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER ANY MEMBER IN THIS INSTITUTION SUPPORTS THE ENDS THAT THE E.P.A. IS TRYING TO REACH. IT IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE ANY MEANS TO REACH THOSE ENDS AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY SHOULD. THERE ARE PLENTY OF MEMBERS ON THIS FLOOR TODAY WHO BELIEVE THAT THE INTENTIONS OF THE E.P.A. WITH RESPECT TO ITS MISSION TO ENSURE CLEAN WATER ARE NOBLE. I PUT MYSELF IN THAT CATEGORY. BUT WE ALL HAVE TO WORRY WHEN AN AGENCY GOES TO SUCH LENTION TO CIRCUMVENT THE CONGRESS -- LENGTHS TO CIRCUMVENT THE CONGRESS AND THE RULE MAKING PROCESS SO AS TO IMPOSE ITS OWN AGENDA. BECAUSE AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION OR THE ELECTION AFTER THAT OR THE ELECTION AFTER THAT SOME FUTURE E.P.A. MAY NOT HAVE SUCH NOBLE INTENTIONS. AND IF WE FAIL TO STAND UP TODAY WE WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR INACTION LATER. THIS BILL IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, IT DOES NOT TELL THE E.P.A. THEY CANNOT AFFECT IMPROVEMENTS IN WATER QUALITY. IT SAYS THAT THEY CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT LETTING THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE IN THE PROCESS. THAT'S THE WAY THE RULE MAKING PROCESS IS INTENDED TO WORK, BUT THIS E.P.A. HAS EFFECTIVELY THWARTED THAT PROCESS AND THUMBED ITS NOSE AT THE PEOPLE BY ISSUING GUIDANCE AND TREATING IT LIKE REGULATION. AS I SAID IN MY OPENING COMMENTS, I WISH WE WERE NOT HERE ON THIS BILL TODAY, I WISH IT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE A COOPERATIVE FEDERAL RELATIONSHIP AMONG THE AGENCIES AND THE FEDERAL AGENCIES WITH THE STATES AND WITH THE INDUSTRIES INVOLVED. BUT THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED AND THEREFORE IT HAS CREATED A ERA OF MISTRUST, DISTRUST, BITTERNESS AND OUTRIGHT SCARED ATTITUDE AMONG OUR COAL MINERS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL HAVE A JOB NEXT YEAR OR EVEN TOMORROW AND FOR HOW LONG THEIR CURRENT JOB WILL LAST. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO CONCLUDE BY SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:09:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:09:11 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO HAS 12 MINUTES REMAINING.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT THIS BILL IS ADDRESSING, WE HAVE 21ST CENTURY…

    THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT THIS BILL IS ADDRESSING, WE HAVE 21ST CENTURY PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR 21ST CENTURY SOLUTIONS. I WANT TO LAY OUT THE FACTS HERE A LITTLE BIT AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE FROM WEST VIRGINIA FOR HIS SUPPORT OF THE BILL. WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE STATE E.P.A.'S HAVE TO HAVE AN IMPROVED PLAN BY THE FEDERAL E.P.A. AND THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THEY'RE WORKING UNDER AND YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE THE FEDERAL E.P.A. COMING IN DURING THE BALL GAME AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE RULES AND UNDERMINING THE EFFORTS OF THE STATE E.P.A.'S. I WANT TO COMMENT TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON'S COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACKWARDS AND WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THE LAST 40 YEARS AND THE STATES DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN THE LAST 40 YEARS OR BEFORE. LET'S REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO 1972. I GREW UP 12 MILES FROM THE CITY OF CLEVELAND AND THE COLORADO -- AND A RIVER. I REMEMBER WHEN THE RIVER CAUGHT ON FIRE. I REMEMBER WHEN I COULDN'T SWIM IN THE WATER ANYMORE. THOSE EVENTS CAUSED THIS CONGRESS TO PASS THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND ESTABLISHED THE U.S. E.P.A. AND ALSO GIVE AUTHORITY FOR THE STATES TO SUFFER THEIR PROGRAMS. PRIOR TO THAT NOBODY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT WAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT WHERE WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING CLEAN WATER. SINCE THEN WE'VE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS. ON POLLUTION WE'VE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN DISCHARGES, WE DON'T HAVE DISCHARGES GOING INTO OUR LAKES AND RIVERS AND STREAMS LIKE WE DID 40 YEARS AGO. WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ADDRESSING NONPOINT SOURCE POLLUTION AND NOT TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE MORE CHALLENGES BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND THE U.S. E.P.A. HAS AN AGENDA RIGHT NOW THAT'S OVERREACHING AND THEY WANT TO SET POLICIES AND PARAMETERS THAT FITS FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK UNDER. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THE NUTRIENT STANDARD. YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT PHOSPHOROUS SEDIMENT POLLUTION IN OUR LAKES AND RIVERS AND STREAKS AND TO GO IN THERE AND SET A NUMBER, A NUMERICAL NUMBER THAT THEY CAN'T EXCEED THAT IN DISCHARGE AT THAT LEVEL -- DISCHARGING AT THAT LEVEL CAUSES SOME PROBLEMS. FOR US, 40 YEARS WE'VE BEEN WAITING UNDER A SYSTEM CALLED THE NARRATIVE STANDARD WHERE STATES CAN GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT WATERSHED, IN THAT STREAM OR RIVER AND DETERMINE, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU IN EVERY RIVER AND STREAM IN THIS COUNTRY THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING, THE BIOOLOGY'S DIFFERENT, THE P.H. IS DIFFERENT, THE WATER FLOW, SUNSHINE, WHOLE HOST OF THINGS AND THEY CAN INCORPORATE THAT AND COME UP WITH A PLAN HOW TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THEY HAVE IN THEIR LOCAL LOCALE. WHEN YOU SET A NUMBER AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL IT PUTS A STATE AT A PROBLEM WHERE THEY CAN'T MEET ATTAINMENT OR IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AND WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN FLORIDA AND NOW IT'S WHY THERE'S LITIGATION PENDING BECAUSE THEY'VE SET A ONE SIZE FITS ALL WHERE FLORIDA IRONICALLY WAS MOVING TO A POINT TO SET A NUMERICAL STANDARD THAT THEY WANTED TO ALSO ADDRESS, INCORPORATE WHAT I CALL THE NARRATIVE STANDARD SO THEY COULD ADDRESS WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN EACH LOCALE AND NOT A HUGE REGION, TO ADDRESS THOSE DIFFERENCES HAPPENING IN THAT STREAM OR THAT RIVER. SO ONE SIZE FITS ALL DOESN'T WORK AND IT CAUSES PROBLEMS AND THAT WILL MAKE US GO BACK WHERE WE WERE, PROGRESS WE'VE MADE IN THE LAST 40 YEARS. I WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS IN THIS BILL, WE TALK ABOUT THE PERMITTING ISSUE. ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS THINGS I'VE SEEN SINCE JANUARY WAS A REVOCATION OF A PERMIT, YES, IT WAS IN WEST VIRGINIA, IT WAS A COAL MINE OPERATION THAT WENT THROUGH 10 YEARS OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY, GOT THE PERMIT IN 2007 AND THEN THREE YEARS LATER THE PERMIT WAS REVOKED. NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE IN PERMIT VIOLATION, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TESTIFIED IN MY COMMITTEE THAT THERE WAS NO PROBLEMS. STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA E.P.A. DID NOT SUPPORT REVOKING THAT PERMIT. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY REVOKED THAT PERMIT OTHER THAN MAYBE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA OF SOMEBODY'S. THEY WERE NOT IN VIOLATION OF PERMIT. IT'S ONE THING TO REVOKE A PERMIT WHEN YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE PERMIT BUT WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE VIOLATION OF THE PERMIT, TO TAKE THAT PERMIT AWAY, IT SETS A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE AN ENTITY OF AN ENTERPRISE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO BE IN BUSINESS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT THE WHIM OF SOME BUREAUCRAT IN THE ADMINISTRATION COMES AND PULLS THAT PERMIT ANY TIME THEY WANT TO, WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT, CREATE JOBS KNOWING THAT THEY COULD BE SHUT DOWN TOMORROW BECAUSE THEIR PERMIT'S NOT THERE SO THEY CAN STAY IN BUSINESS? THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL ADDRESSES. THEY HAVE TO GET CONCURRENCE, THE U.S. E.P.A. WOULD HAVE TO GET CONCURRENCE FROM THE STATE E.P.A. TO SUPPORT THAT -- IN THIS CASE SHUT THAT BUSINESS DOWN. THIS IS REALLY A JOBS BILL. WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY RELIEVE UNCERTAINTY AND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS AND I CAN TELL YOU, I THINK THE STATE E.P.A.'S CAN DO A BETTER JOB IN THEIR LOCALES BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE THAN HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL POLICY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OVERREACHING AND BURDENSOME REGULATORY CLIMATE THAT KILLS JOBS, KILLS ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND KILLS JOBS AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO MOVE US -- THIS BILL FORWARD. THANKS JOBS BILL. WE HAVE -- THIS IS A JOBS BILL. WE HAVE SENT SEVERAL BILLS OVER TO THE SENATE THAT ARE JOBS BILL AND I URGE THE SENATE TO TAKE THEM UP BECAUSE WE HAVE UNEMPLOYMENT AT 9.2% AND RISING AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A JOB AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND WE NEED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT FOR WHAT I CALL THE JOB CREATORS TO HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS AND START HIRING PEOPLE BACK AND GROWING THEIR BUSINESSES. AND THIS BILL IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ENCOURAGE COOPERATIVES AND COOPERATIVE ARRANGEMENTS, WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL E.P.A. AND THE STATE E.P.A.'S AND I WAS JUST REALLY FLOORED IN THE COMMITTEE HEARINGS WE HAD WHERE WE HAD STATE E.P.A.'S COME IN AND SOME OF THEM WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE FROM ME, TESTIFY AGAINST THE U.S. E.P.A. AND THEIR ACTIONS AND THEIR OVERREACH AND, YOU KNOW, A STRONG ECONOMY, PEOPLE DON'T -- SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, I SAY THIS A LOT. A STRONG AND GROWING ECONOMY WILL PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO HAVE -- TO INVEST AND ENHANCE THE ENVIRONMENT AND AN ECONOMY THAT'S STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW AND MAKES IT TOUGHER TO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AND IF YOU THINK OF AN EXAMPLE, YOU LOOK AT SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WHERE THEIR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS FEEDING THEIR PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BUILD SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS AND WATER FILL TRATION SYSTEMS AND DO OTHER THINGS TO PREM -- FILL TRATION SYSTEMS AND DO OTHER THINGS TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY AND WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH BUSINESSES BECAUSE MOST BUSINESSES AND MOST PEOPLE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. EVERYBODY WANTS CLEAN WATER AND CLEAN AIR AND SO I THINK INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE -- WE'RE NOT DIRECTING -- PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, I THINK A STRONG, GROWING ECONOMY DOES PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND I THINK THE REGULATORY POLICIES ARE IN PLACE AT THE STATE LEVELS BECAUSE THE STATES ARE SET UP TO DO IT NOW, DIFFERENT THAN 40 YEARS AGO, TO REGULATE AND ALSO ENFORCE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LAWS. WE HAVE RULES IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, OHIO, WHEN I WAS IN THE STATE SENATE TWO YEARS AGO WE PASSED COMPREHENSIVE LEGISLATION TO ADD ADDITIONAL REGULATION ON THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY TO PROTECT OUR WATER, GROUND, OUR WATER ACURA FERRES AND OUR SURFACE WATER AND I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED NOW WITH THE POTENTIAL WE HAVE WITH THE SHALE TO MAKE US CLOSER TO BEING ENERGY INDEPENDENT AND NOT DEPENDENT ON -- AND SHIPPING ALMOST $1 TRILLION A YEAR AWAY TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND SOME OF THOSE THAT DON'T REALLY LIKE US TOO MUCH. WE GOT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A STRONG GROWING ECONOMY AND PROVIDE THE ENERGY BUT ALSO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AT THE SAME TIME. WE JUST HAVE THE REGULATORY PROCESS IN PLACE. I THINK THIS ENABLES A STRONGER REGULATORY PROCESS BECAUSE IT EMBOLDENS THE STATES' E.P.A. TO DO THEIR JOB AND WORK WITH THEIR COOPERATIVE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:18:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME FOR GENERAL DEBATE…

    FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME FOR GENERAL DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE PRINTED IN THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE AND SHALL BE CONSIDERED READ. NO AMENDMENT IN THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE IN ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. EACH SUCH AMENDMENT MAY BE OFFERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT, SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AN AMENDMENT AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO A DEMAND FOR A DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:19:14 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK, MY AMENDMENT NUMBER 7.

  • 03:19:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 03:19:23 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF…

    NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS.

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  • 03:19:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, AND…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE.

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  • 03:19:52 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    DEFINITELY SUPPORT COOPERATION BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE…

    DEFINITELY SUPPORT COOPERATION BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST PART MORESHIP AND ONE THAT I ENCOURAGE -- PARTNERSHIP AND ONE THAT I ENCOURAGE. HAVING BEEN PART OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN MY CITY OF HOUSTON, I KNOW THAT UNFUNDED MANDATES ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME. BUT I ARGUE VIGOROUSLY AGAINST THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT DOES EQUATE TO UNDERMINING THE HEALTH OF AMERICANS. WE NEED CLEAN WATER, NOT DIRTY WATER, AND SO THIS AMENDMENT STRIKES THE ENTIRE LEGISLATION THAT CAUSES US TO IGNORE A PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BETWEEN THE E.P.A., THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AND THE NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS A STATE SYSTEM. AND TO MY COUNT, SOME 47 STATES HAVE INITIALLY GOT INTO THE SYSTEM AND HAVE WORKED TO ENSURE THEY HAVE CLEAN WATER. WHY DO I SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGING APPROACH TO TAKE THAT THE LEGISLATION HAVE? BECAUSE IT PREVENTS THE E.P.A. FROM TAKING ACTIONS TO REVISE OUTDATED STATE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS. IT MAKES THE STATE THE FINAL ASH TORE OF WHETHER AN NPDES PERMIT, A LICENSE FOR WATER QUALITY, IS IN FACT TO BE IMPLEMENTED. SO ONE STATE MAY DO SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS NEGATIVELY ON ANOTHER STATE. THESE ARE THE PERSON WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. A WORKING NURSE AND A HEALTHY BABY. OR WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A GENTLEMAN NAMED MR. COLATIO, WHO IS A RESIDENT OF PRESSWOOD, WHO INDICATED SOME YEARS AGO HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE WATER HE DRANK FOR YEARS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS CONTAMINATED WITH. CANCER STUDY TRIGGERED FEARS IN CESSWOOD WHICH AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT IN THE RECORD. IT SAYS, I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME IS IN THE WATER. IT STRIKES THE LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL. IT SAYS, LET'S GO BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP MEMBERS, BUT IF YOU HAVE 47 STATES WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS, LET'S FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND HAVE CLEAN WATER AND NOT DIRTY WATER. THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THAT THIS IS OVERREACHING. THE E.P.A. WOULD BE PREVENTED -- PROHIBITED FROM RESOLVING CONFLICTING STATE DECISIONS ON PROTECTING WATER QUALITY. JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THE JACKSON LEE AMENDMENT. I RESERVE MY TIME.

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  • 03:22:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 03:22:41 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

  • 03:22:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE INTENT OF H.R. 2018 IS TO RESTORE THE BALANCE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE INTENT OF H.R. 2018 IS TO RESTORE THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN CARRYING OUT THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY STRIKES THE ENTIRE BILL, AS SHE STATED, AND ENSURES THAT THE E.P.A. WILL CONTINUE TO UNILATERALLY FORCE ITS ONE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL FEDERAL POLICY ONTO THE STATES' WATER QUALITY PROGRAMS WHICH, BY THE WAY, THEY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. UNDER THIS AMENDMENT, E.P.A. WILL CONTINUE TO PASS UNFUNDED MANDATES ONTO THE STATES, ENSURES THAT THE E.P.A. ISSUES GUIDANCE THAT FRUSTRATES STATES THAT ENSURES THAT E.P.A. WILL REVOKE ALREADY LEGALLY ISSUED PERMITS, AS I STATED EARLIER. I URGE MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT, AND I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:23:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 03:23:40 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    THE GOOD INTENTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN, AND I AM CONCERNED OF THE…

    THE GOOD INTENTIONS OF THE GENTLEMAN, AND I AM CONCERNED OF THE INTERPRETATION. LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU VERY BRIEFLY MY OWN STATE. IN MY OWN STATE I AM AWARE OF HOW TRIBUTARIES CAN IMPACT THE BODY OF WATER THEY FLOW INTO IT. CURRENTLY THERE IS A DEAD ZONE WHERE MARINE LIFE CANNOT SURVIVE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. THIS DEAD ZONE ESTIMATED TO REACH 9,421 SQUARE MILES IS DUE TO INCREASED LEVELS OF NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS THAT WASH INTO THE GULF AND OTHER TRIBUTARIES. THIS PREVENTS THE E.P.A. FROM REGULATING CRITERIA FOR POLLUTANTS THAT CAUSE DEAD ZONES. WE ARE THE PROTECTORS OF AMERICA'S ASSETS. IT'S WATERWAYS, THE DRINKING WATER, IT'S THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE CLEAN WATER FOR OUR FISH AND FOR FISHING. I ASK YOU TO LET'S GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARDS. IF WE HAVE STARTS THAT ARE ALREADY PARTICIPATING, LET'S DEMAND IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR E.P.A. TO RESTRAIN ITSELF, BUT LET'S NOT TAKE AWAY THE UNDERLYING POWER THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER. AND SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN CESSWOOD TO BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY BE CANCER-FREE. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:24:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 03:25:17 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:25:42 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF…

    NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS.

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  • 03:25:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, HOSEA JACKSON LEE,…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, HOSEA JACKSON LEE, AND A MEMBER OWE -- MS. JACKSON LEE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS.

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  • 03:26:06 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN AND, AGAIN, I THANK MY FRIENDS ON…

    LEE: I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN AND, AGAIN, I THANK MY FRIENDS ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. I DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE MY FRIEND, THE RANKING MEMBER, AND I SEEK TO COLLABORATE AND FIX PROBLEMS IS HOW I SEE MYSELF. SO MY SECOND AMENDMENT SAYS, LET'S WORK TOGETHER, BUT THERE ARE SOMETIMES THE HEART OF A MATTER THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. MY AMENDMENT STRIKES THE LANGUAGE THAT REALLY IS THE HEART OF THE MATTER. IT STRIKES THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL ENSURING THAT THE VITAL ROLE PLAYED BY THE E.P.A. IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN POLLUTANTS ENTER OUR WATERWAYS CAN STILL EXIST, PROVIDES STATES WITH NEARLY UNLIMITED AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHICH POLLUTANTS CAN ENTER OUR WATERWAYS, DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN STATES DISAGREES. IT ALLOWS 50 STATES TO CONFLICT AGAINST EACH OTHER AND ONEUPMANSHIPS, NO, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, NO, I'M GOING TO DO THIS. IT STANDS UP FOR THOSE IN CESSWOOD, ILLINOIS, THAT WHETHER THE WATER CAUSES CANCER, KIDNEY CANCER IN A 30-YEAR-OLD. WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:27:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM TEXAS RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    MR. GIBBS

    CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    MR. GIBBS

    SECTION TWO OF THE BILL WOULD NOT ALLOW E.P.A. TO CHANGE PERMITTING…

    SECTION TWO OF THE BILL WOULD NOT ALLOW E.P.A. TO CHANGE PERMITTING DECISIONS OR FROM WITHDRAWING APPROVAL OF A STATE WATER QUALITY PERMITTING PROGRAM OR LIMITING FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THE STATE WATER QUALITY PERMITTING ON THE BASIS THAT THE E.P.A. DISAGREES WITH THE STATE REGARDING A STATE WATER QUALITY STANDARD THAT E.P.A. HAS APPROVED. BY STRIKING SECTION 2 OF THE BILL THIS AMENDMENT WOULD CONTINUE TO ALLOW THEM IMPOSE A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL POLICY ON STATES. I URGE ALL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:28:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED. MS.…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED. MS. JACKSON

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  • 03:28:12 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- THE DISTINGUISHED…

    LEE: I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 03:28:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    >>

    SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS FOR YIELDING.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THANK HER FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE…

    THANK HER FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT. IT WOULD STRIKE THE PROVISIONS OF THE UNDERLYING BILL THAT THREATEN EXISTING CLEAN WATER ACT AUTHORITY RELATED TO THE DISCHARGE OF POLLUTANTS UNDER THE ACT. I OPPOSE THESE PROVISIONS IN THE UNDERLYING BILL, AND I VIEW THIS AMENDMENT AS AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE AN OTHERWISE VERY BAD BILL, AND ON THAT BASIS I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. MY THANKS TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS.

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  • 03:28:51 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    THE GENTLEMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    AND IS IT MY RIGHT TO CLOSE, MR. CHAIRMAN OR --

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: LET ME REFER MY COLLEAGUES, AGAIN, TO BASIC FACTS. 47 STATES HAVE…

    LEE: LET ME REFER MY COLLEAGUES, AGAIN, TO BASIC FACTS. 47 STATES HAVE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE E.P.A. BECAUSE THEY DECIDED IN SPITE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ALL HAVE ON MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING, THAT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THAT CLEAN WATER IS OUR PRIORITY. AND I WOULD OFFER AS A VIABLE PICTURE AND A RECOLLECTION OF AMERICANS WHO HAD TO LIVE THROUGH HISTORY WHEN WATER WAS NOT CLEAN. WE DID HAVE THAT ERA IN OUR LIFETIME, OR AT LEAST IN THE LIFETIMES OF MANY. I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S NOT THE LIFE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO, AND THIS PARTICULAR SECTION IS PROTECTING US AGAINST POLLUTANTS THAT DEGRADE SURFACE WATER, RENDERING IT UNSAFE FOR DRINKING, FISHING, SWIMMING AND OTHER ACTIVITIES COMING FROM A VAST ARRAY OF CHEMICALS. BY REGULATING THE SOURCES THAT DISPENSE THESE HARMFUL POLLUTANTS, THE E.P.A. WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE STATES HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE DRINKING WATER. YOU WANT A JOBS BILL, YOU CREATE THE COMPANIES THAT WILL HELP KEEP OUR WATERWAYS CLEAN, PUT PEOPLE TO WORK CLEANING WATER, PUT PEOPLE TO WORK COMPLYING WITH THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO ENSURE WE HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER, AND BABIES AND WORKING MOMS AND FAMILIES CAN TURN ON THAT FAUCET AND ENSURE THAT THEY CAN DRINK THAT CLEAN WATER. WE WANT TO WORK WITH INDUSTRY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME HALFWAY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RETURN AMERICA TO A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD DIP DOWN AND YOU FIND IN DEVELOPING NATIONS THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DISEASES THAT CHILDREN HAVE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE CLEAN WATER. GO TO OUR DEVELOPING NATIONS. SEE WHAT THEY'RE WASHING THEMSELVES IN. SEE WHAT THEY'RE DRINKING. THAT'S NOT AMERICA. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE KIND OF NATION THAT WORKS WITH OUR BUSINESSES BUT ALSO FIGHTS FOR OUR CHILDREN AND PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CLEAN WATER. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND WITH US AND STRIKE SECTION 2 TO ALLOW US, ONE, TO GO FOR A COMPROMISE, IF WE CAN, BUT ALSO TO STAND FOR THOSE WHO WOULD WELCOME CLEAN WATER. LET'S END DISEASES THAT CAN BE CAUSED IN THIS RECKLESS MANNER. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE JACKSON LEE AMENDMENT, TO SUPPORT CLEAN WATER IN AMERICA. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:31:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THE STATES ARE OPERATING UNDERLAND ALREADY APPROVED PLAN FROM THE U.S.…

    THE STATES ARE OPERATING UNDERLAND ALREADY APPROVED PLAN FROM THE U.S. E.P.A. HOW TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. I DON'T SEE HOW WE GO BACKWARDS. AND BY THE WAY, UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND POLLUTANTS, THAT PLAN IS REVIEWED EVERY THREE YEARS. I YIELD MY TIME.

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  • 03:31:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 03:32:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 03:32:33 PM

    MRS. CAPITO

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 YOU ARE AED BY MRS.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 YOU ARE AED BY MRS. CAPITO OF WEST VIRGINIA.

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  • 03:32:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MRS.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MRS. CAPITO, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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  • 03:32:52 PM

    MRS. CAPITO

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN ON MY…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN ON MY SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. GIBBS, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. MY AMENDMENT IS A SIMPLE REACTION TO CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR AND OTHERS AT THE E.P.A. AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. IN QUESTIONING THE PRESIDENT I SAID, MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN YOU'RE GOING FORTH ON YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AT THE E.P.A. DO YOU CONSIDER A JOB AND ECONOMIC IMPACT? AND HE SAID, WE SHOULD. AND I SAY WE SHOULD AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MY AMENDMENT. THIS REQUIRES THE E.P.A. TO ANALYZE THE IMPACT ON JOBS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT PRIOR TO ISSUING A REGULATION, POLICY STATEMENT, GUIDANCE OR IMPLEMENTING ANY NEW OR SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED PROGRAM UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. EARLIER THIS YEAR THE E.P.A. RETROACTIVELY VETOED A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CLEAN WATER ACT PERMIT THIS WEST VIRGINIA AT THE SPRUCE MINE. THIS CAME AS QUITE A SURPRISE AND WAS VERY UNPRECEDENTED BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE E.P.A., IF IT HAS IT'S BEEN MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE IN ITS HISTORY, EVER RETROACTIVELY VETOED A PERMIT. IT WAS A CHILLING EFFECT NOT ONLY ON JOBS BUT ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IN OUR STATE. THIS ACTION HAS CAUSED A SLOW BLEED OF JOBS THROUGHOUT APPALACHIA, REACHING BACK TO REVOKE A PERMIT IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNING BECAUSE IT CAUSES GREAT UNCERTAINTY FOR JOB CREATORS IN OUR STATE. THIS IS AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE AS A NATION 9.2% UNEMPLOYMENT. WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK. WHY WOULD A COMPANY INVEST IN A NEW PROJECT WHEN THEY WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED AND TO THINK THERE COULD BE A REACHBACK BY THE E.P.A. OR THE CLEAN WATER ACT WHERE THEY COULD REVOKE THIS PERMIT? TO ME THIS JUST CHILLS JOB CREATION IN OUR STATE. THE E.P.A.'S IDEOLOGICAL WAR ON OUR ENERGY PRODUCERS IS MANIFESTING IT SELF IN OTHER WAYS IN MY DISTRICT AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IN THE EASTERN PART OF WEST VIRGINIA THE E.P.A., LISTEN TO THIS, IS USING AERIAL SURVEILLANCE OF FAMILY FARMS WITH THE GOAL OF ENSURING COMPLIANCE TO THE CLEAN WATER ACT. ACCORDING TO AN ARTICLE IN A LOCAL NEWSPAPER, THE E.P.A. IS GOING SO FAR AS TO REGULATE THE TYPE OF SHEDS THE FAMILY FARMERS CAN HAVE FOR THEIR CATTLE OPERATIONS. BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS KIND OF REGULATORY OVERREACH, THE E.P.A.'S REPRESENTATIVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT JOBS ARE IRRELEVANT. AS THE NATION FACES 9.2% UNEMPLOYMENT AND HUNDREDS OF JOBS HANG -- HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS HANG IN LIMBO, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS REFUSED TO RECONSIDER THIS AGENDA. THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE REGULATORY ACTIONS UPON JOBS IS OBVIOUS. HOWEVER THE E.P.A.'S BEEN UNABLE TO GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER ON WHETHER IT DOES OR DOES NOT CONSIDER THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON JOBS OR ECONOMIC IMPACT. SO LET'S PUT IT CLEARLY IN THE LAW. YOU MUST CONSIDER THIS TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMY. ALL THIS AMENDMENT IS ASKING FOR, QUITE SIMPLY, IS TRANSPARENCY. IT DOESN'T MANDATE WHAT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE CONSIDERING WHAT JOBS OR ECONOMIC IMPACT IS DISCOVERED, IT DOES SAY THAT WHEN JOBS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT ARE NEGATIVE YOU HAVE TO -- THE E.P.A. HAS TO GO TO THE LOCAL GOVERNANCE AUTHORITY, WHETHER IT'S THE GOVERNOR OR THE SMALLER COMMUNITY, AND EXPLAIN THIS ACTION. SO IT'S TRANSPARENCY AND IT'S ALSO, I THINK, WILL HELP FURTHER CLARIFY DECISIONS BUT ALSO HELP OUR ENERGY PRODUCERS FIGURE OUT HOW TO WEAVE THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE ECONOMY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. IN CLOSING I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT OUR COLLECT OF GOAL OF CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER. WE ALL SHARE THAT. AND NO ONE MORE THAN EVERYONE ON THE FLOOR SITTING HERE TODAY. AND THOSE OF US ACROSS THE COUNTRY. BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD THIS CONTINUED ASSAULT ON, UNACCOUNTABLE, UNTRANSPARENT ASSAULT ON OUR AMERICAN JOBS. I'LL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:36:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 03:37:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    >>

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LET ME START. WE HAVE HEARD A GREAT DEAL ABOUT…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LET ME START. WE HAVE HEARD A GREAT DEAL ABOUT HOW REVERSALS ON THE PART OF THE E.P.A. HAVE CAUSED UNCERTAINTY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UNCERTAINTY THAT LEADS TO JOB LOSS, UNCERTAINTY THAT LEADS TO A LACK OF INTEREST IN INVESTING.

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  • 03:37:25 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    ARE THE NUMBERS. IN 40 YEARS THE E.P.A. HAS REVERSED 13 PERMITS, 13 OUT OF…

    ARE THE NUMBERS. IN 40 YEARS THE E.P.A. HAS REVERSED 13 PERMITS, 13 OUT OF OVER TWO MILLION ISSUED. THAT IS A VETO RATE OF.00065%. I FAIL TO SEE HOW A REVERSAL RATE OF SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN 1% CAN CREATE THE KIND OF UNCERTAINTY THAT WE HEAR ABOUT FROM OUR COLLEAGUES. IN FACT, THAT KIND OF REVERSAL RATE ENCOURAGES A RELIANCE ON THE LEGITIMACY AND THE VALIDITY OF A PERMIT GRANTED, NOT THE QUESTIONING OF IT. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT OF THESE 13 REVERSALS SEVEN TOOK PLACE UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF PRESIDENT REAGAN, FOUR TOOK PLACE UNDER THE PRESIDENCY OF GEORGE BUSH, THE FIRST GEORGE BUSH, ONE UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH AND ONE UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA. I THINK WE ARE HARD PRESSED TO DEVELOP A FACT-BASED ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS AN ASSAULT OR THAT THERE IS AN OVERREACH ON THE E.P.A. -- ON THE PART OF THE E.P.A. NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE SUBJECT OF THE AMENDMENT ITSELF, THE E.P.A. HAS TESTIFIED BEFORE THE WATER RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IT ALREADY CONSIDERS THE IMPLICATIONS OF ITS ACTIONS ON JOBS AND ON THE ECONOMY. IN FACT, MANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT BRING THE E.P.A. TO DO THAT WERE ENACTED BY THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY WHEN THEY LAST CONTROLLED THE HOUSE. AND AS A RESULT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ENACTMENT THE -- OF THIS AMENDMENT WILL ONLY DUPLICATE THE ANALYSIS THAT THE E.P.A. IS ALREADY UNDERTAKING. AS A RESULT I FEAR THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL ONLY INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LITIGATION RELATING TO ACTIONS ON THE PART OF THE E.P.A., CAUSING A NEW CAUSE OF ACTION IN THE CLEAN WATER ACT FOR THIRD PARTY LAWSUITS. IF ANYTHING I FEAR THAT THE EFFECT OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO TIE UP EFFORTS BY THE E.P.A. TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT IN A BUREAUCRATIC MORASS. WITH THAT, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:39:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST…

    GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:39:47 PM

    MRS. CAPITO

    JUST LIKE TO QUICKLY RESPOND IN TERMS OF THE REVOCATION OF THE ONE PERMIT.…

    JUST LIKE TO QUICKLY RESPOND IN TERMS OF THE REVOCATION OF THE ONE PERMIT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF PERMITS THAT ARE SITTING AT THE E.P.A. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEET THE BALANCE HERE. LET'S LOOK AT THE TOTAL PICTURE, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, OF JOBS AND ENVIRONMENT. I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 03:40:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. I URGE THE MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THIS -- MRS. CAPITO'S AMENDMENT.…

    THANK YOU. I URGE THE MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THIS -- MRS. CAPITO'S AMENDMENT. HER AMENDMENT WOULD BRING TRANSPARENCY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGULATIONS OR REQUIRE THE E.P.A. TO PROVIDE A MORE ROBUST ANALYSIS OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF ITS REGULATORY ACTIONS. THIS WILL NOT HALT THE ISSUANCE OF REGULATIONS, ONLY PROVIDE BETTER INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WRITING THE REGULATIONS, IN THIS CASE THE E.P.A. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THE E.P.A. CAN HAVE BETTER INFORMATION TO MAKE BETTER REGULATIONS AND IT HAS BEEN TESTIFIED THAT WHEN THEY LOOK A REGULATORY ISSUE, THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS PUBLIC -- ENVIRONMENT AND THEY DON'T DO ANALYSIS. I URGE SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:40:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:41:01 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    MAY I INQUIRE AS TO HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. BISHOP

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. RAHALL.

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    MR. RAHALL

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLELADY FROM WEST VIRGINIA'S AMENDMENT. LET ME STATE THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING. MY ONLY CONCERNS HERE WERE ATTACHING AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AMENDMENT TO THE PENDING LEGISLATION WHICH IS DIRECTED AT THE CLEAN WATER ACT INTERPRETATIONS. THE PENDING AMENDMENT BY THE GENTLELADY FROM WEST VIRGINIA, WHICH AS I SAY I POUR WOULD APPEAR TO ME TO MORE BROADEN THE DIRECTION IN WHICH THIS BILL GOES WHICH I THINK DETRACTS FROM THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION TO ZERO IN ON CLEAN WATER ISSUES. THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT SHOULD PROPERLY -- I BELIEVE IT IS SUBJECT OF ANOTHER STAND-ALONE BILL THAT'S BEEN INTRODUCED IN THIS BODY TO JUDGE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS. I SUPPORT THAT LEGISLATION AS WELL. I MIGHT ADD IN ADDITION THAT I BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP WITH THE HEAD OF THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF REGULATORY REVIEW WHOSE JOB IT IS TO DETERMINE AND TO EXAMINE THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF REGULATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES, THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF REGULATORY REVIEWS JURISDICTION, NOT E.P.A.'S JURISDICTION AS THE GENTLELADY HAS PARAPHRASED THE E.P.A. ADMINISTRATOR AND WE'VE ALL HEARD HER SAY THAT JOB REPERCUSSIONS, NOT NECESSARILY PART OF HER JOB DESCRIPTION. THE OFFICE HAS VERY LIMITED STAFF AND DOES NOT HAVE THE STAFF AVAILABILITY TO EXAMINE THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF EVERY REGULATION THAT COMES OUT OF EVERY AGENCY OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. TO WHICH THEY ARE CAST TO DO. BUT CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FULLY DO THEIR JOB. SO THE BOTTOM LINE I DO SUPPORT THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT, DO I WORRY THAT IT OVERLY BROADENS THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND SHOULD BE PROPERLY, AS IT IS, THE SUBJECT OF A SEPARATE STAND-ALONE LEGISLATION ON ITS OWN. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:43:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA HAS 15 SECONDS AND IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:43:21 PM

    MRS. CAPITO

    TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE FROM WEST VIRGINIA FOR HIS SUPPORT BECAUSE HE AND I…

    TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE FROM WEST VIRGINIA FOR HIS SUPPORT BECAUSE HE AND I ARE SEEING FIRSTHAND -- WE WANT TO SEE TRANSPARENCY, WE WANT TO SEE THE INFORMATION MOVE FORWARD ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE NEED JOBS, WE WANT JOBS, WE JUST WANT TO SEE THE FACTS. I YIELD BACK AND I URGE SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:43:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:43:44 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. FOR THE REASONS I'VE CITED I URGE MY…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. FOR THE REASONS I'VE CITED I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:43:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THAT I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    MR. BISHOP

    ON THAT I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:44:37 PM

    MR. HANNA

    SEEK RECOGNITION --

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    MR. HANNA

    CHAIR, I SEEK RECOGNITION --

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    MS. HANABUSA

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY

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    THE CHAIR

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA, AND A…

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY SEEKS FROM THE…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY SEEKS FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE E.P.A. TO SUBMIT TO CONGRESS WITHIN ONE YEAR AND THEN ANNUALLY THEREAFTER A REPORT ON ANY INCREASE IN WATERBORNE MICROORGANISMS WHICH INCLUDES PROTOZOAS, VIRUSES, BACTERIAS AND PARASITES. TOXIC CHEMICALS OR TOXIC MET A.L.S. IN WATERS REGULATION -- REGULATED BY THE STATE. INCLUDING ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS NOTHING AS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US IN HAWAII, AS WATER QUALITY. WE ARE THE ONLY ISLAND STATE, AND, OF COURSE, OUR PRISTINE WATERS ARE VERY CRITICAL TO US FOR OUR MAJOR ECONOMIC ENGINE WHICH IS TOURISM. AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ANY DIFFERENT FOR ANY OTHER STATE, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US WHO HAVE WATERING OCEANS AND EVEN THOSE WHICH MAY HAVE NAVIGATABLE STREAMS WITHIN OUR BORDERS. WATER IS CRITICAL. 2018, WHAT IT DOES, IT SIMPLY STATES THAT THE STATES NOW HAVE THE RIGHTS TO REGULATE WATER QUALITY. BY DOING THAT, HOWEVER, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TO ENSURE FOR ALL OF US AND OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT THE STATES ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. ALL THIS AMENDMENT IS SEEKING FROM THE STATES IS FOR THE E.P.A. TO REPORT TO US SO WE CAN KNOW IF IN FACT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THIS BILL GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHICH IS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS REGARDING WATER QUALITY. FOR THAT REASON, MR. CHAIR, I ASK FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT. AND I RESERVE.

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  • 03:46:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CAN YOU SEE THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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    MR. GIBBS

    WISH TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    MR. GIBBS

    I THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. IT AUTHORIZES THE E.P.A. TO STUDY THE EFFECTIVENESS…

    I THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. IT AUTHORIZES THE E.P.A. TO STUDY THE EFFECTIVENESS OF COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ONCE H.R. 2018 IS ENACTED. WHILE THE AMENDMENT SEEMS TO CARRY A BIAS IN THAT THE E.P.A. CAN ONLY REPORT AN INCREASE OF PATHOGENS OR TOXINS AND NOT REDUCTIONS AFTER ENACTMENT OF H.R. 2018, THE E.P.A. WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE TO REPORT ON. H.R. 2018 WILL LEAD TO A BETTER WATER QUALITY DECISIONS MADE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND THIS WILL BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL OF US. H.R. 2018 WOULD LEAD TO WATER QUALITY DEAD REGATION, NONE OF US -- DEGRADATION, NONE OF US IN THIS CHAMBER WOULD SUPPORT IT. IF THE SPONSOR WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST TO MODIFY HER AMENDMENT, TO MODIFY LINE 5 AFTER INCREASE FOR THE PHRASE OR REDUCTIONS WE THEN WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:48:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:48:04 PM

    MR. HANABUSA

    MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. HOWEVER, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO…

    MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. HOWEVER, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PRESENT MR. BISHOP WITH ONE MINUTE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:48:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. BISHOP

    MUCH AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING. I WANT TO THANK HER FOR…

    MUCH AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING. I WANT TO THANK HER FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I DO NOT SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION BUT THIS IS A VERY PRUDENT AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO ASSESS AS WE GO FORWARD WHETHER OR NOT THIS LAW IS -- THE PROPOSED LAW IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR NATION'S CLEAN WATER AND IN THE INTEREST OF OUR NATION'S HEALTH. SO I COMMEND THE GENTLELADY FOR OFFERING THE AMENDMENT. I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS MAY BE ACCEPTED. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:48:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RESERVES. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:48:56 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I CONTINUE TO RESERVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. HANABUSA

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELD BACK?

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    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELD BACK?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. GIBBS

    I THINK WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DO…

    I THINK WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DO THINK THE AMENDMENT WILL BE IN ORDER AND -- JUST SHORT PLEA -- SHORTLY. I THINK IT IS A GOOD AMENDMENT AND I WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE FOR OFFERING IT BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL HAVE AN ACCURATE REPORT FROM THE E.P.A. WHEN THEY DO A STUDY WHETHER WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS BECAUSE OF 2018 OR GOING BACKWARDS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS AMENDMENT AMENDED TO PROVIDE THOSE WORDS, OR REDUCTIONS, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:50:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RISE.

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  • 03:50:06 PM

    MR. HANABUSA

    ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE MODIFICATION.

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    THE CLERK

    MODIFICATION TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 BY MS. HANABUSA. ON LINE 5 INSERT, OR…

    MODIFICATION TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 BY MS. HANABUSA. ON LINE 5 INSERT, OR REDUCTION, AFTER INCREASE.

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  • 03:50:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO THE MODIFICATION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    TO THE MODIFICATION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT, AS MODIFIED, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

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  • 03:50:58 PM

    MR. POLIS

    MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. POLIS OF COLORADO.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS,…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS.

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  • 03:51:22 PM

    MR. POLIS

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, OUR COUNTRY'S WORST POLLUTERS DON'T DESERVE A…

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, OUR COUNTRY'S WORST POLLUTERS DON'T DESERVE A GET-OUT-OF-JAIL-FREE CARD. I THINK THAT'S AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENT OF THE LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL ABSENT THIS AMENDMENT. I ENCOURAGE COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT. ONE THING I HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THE MOST EGREGIOUS POLLUTERS, THESE ARE POLLUTERS, BOTH DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICANS AGREE ARE THE MOST EGREGIOUS POLLUTERS, THOSE WHO REPEATEDLY IGNORE STATE REGULATION, ARE BAD ACTORS AND SHOULD NOT BE AMONG THOSE THAT BENEFIT FROM THIS BILL. THE STATES DESERVE TO HAVE THE E.P.A. BACK THEM UP AND HELP THEM KEEP TAB ON THE POLLUTERS WHO CONTINUALLY VIOLATE STATE RULES. UNFORTUNATELY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE POLLUTERS HAVE ESCAPED NOT ONLY PUNISHMENT BUT INCREASED SCRUTINY. POLLUTERS THAT CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THE LAW ARE CLASSIFIED AS SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANT. THAT'S THE TERM THAT'S USED. THIS CLASSIFICATION SIMPLY PUTS THESE POLLUTERS ON A GREATER MICROSCOPE BY E.P.A. IT DOESN'T CHANGE AUTHORITIES. IT DOESN'T ENGENDER SOME NEW REGULATORY SCHEME. IT SIMPLY ENSURES THAT THE E.P.A. IS KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THEM AND ENSURING THAT STATE PROGRAMS ARE BEING FOLLOWED. AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT'S A PIECE OF THIS THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE LARGER STATE. IT'S ONE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH SUPPORTING STATES' REGULATION OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS INFRACTORS. STATES SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO KEEP OUR WATERS SAFE ON THEIR OWN. ACCORDING TO A 2009 "NEW YORK TIMES" INVESTIGATION, STATE OFFICIALS CONTRIBUTE POLLUTANTS -- THEY ALREADY HAVE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR CRUCIAL ASPECTS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THE JOB NEEDED TO PROTECT OUR HEALTH IS SIMPLY TOO BIG FOR STATE REGULATORS ALONE. AN EXAMPLE OF SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANCE FROM THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN 2001 AND 2006, THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION FOUND THAT MACEY ENERGY, THE SAME COMPANY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BIG BRANCH MINE DISASTER, HAD ACCRUED OVER 2,000 SIGNIFICANT VIOLATIONS AND THE STATE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. UNDER SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANT, THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO WATCH MACY. THIS BILL OFFERS THE MOST EXTREME POLLUTERS A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD. AND IT BACKS UP STATE AUTHORITY AND TO SUCCESSFULLY AND REASONABLY KEEPS THESE PEOPLE IN CHECK. THE E.P.A. CAN KEEP A CLOSER EYE, THAT'S ALL, A CLOSER EYE ON THE MOST EXTREME VIOLATORS OF THE LAW. POLLUTERS WHO ARE HABITUALLY NONCOMPLIANT. WITHOUT MY AMENDMENT, THIS BILL WOULD MEAN THAT OUR NATION'S WORST OFFENDERS WOULD BE FREE FROM E.P.A. SCRUTINY WITH SOLE AUTHORITY BEING NEW, LESS ORGANIZED AND NAIVE STATE PROGRAMS RIGHT FOR LOOPHOLES AND SOME OF WHICH DON'T HAVE THE SCALE TO ADEQUATELY REGULATE WHAT'S AT STAKE. MR. SPEAKER, IF A STUDENT IS DISRUPTIVE IN CLASS IT'S ONLY COMMON SENSE THEY GO TO THE PRINCIPAL'S CLASS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TEACHER DOESN'T HAVE AUTONOMY IN THE CLASS. THEY NEED TO KNOW THERE'S GREATER CONSEQUENCES FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. I'D LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:54:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 03:54:36 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED. GIBB GIBBS THANK YOU.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. MR. POLIS SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT STATES WOULD ALLOW POLLUTERS TO…

    THANK YOU. MR. POLIS SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT STATES WOULD ALLOW POLLUTERS TO POLLUTE UNDER H.R. 2018 UNLESS THIS AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IN IT WOULD DEGRADE WATER QUALITY, NOBODY WOULD AGREE TO IT. IF YOU HAD A PERMIT HOLDER WHO IS IN SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANCE, DOES THAT NEGATE WATER QUALITY PROVISIONS FOR THE PERMIT HOLDER MAY BE POLLUTING? OF COURSE NOT. NOTHING IN H.R. 2018 ALLOWS THE PERMIT HOLDER TO VIOLATE THE TERMS OF A PERMIT. I URGE ALL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THE POLIS AMENDMENT. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:55:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO,

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    MR. POLIS

    AS TO HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS ON BOTH SIDES.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. POLIS

    TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK ONE MINUTE, MR. BISHOP.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THIS IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL CONCEIVED AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT THE…

    THIS IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL CONCEIVED AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN BECAUSE THIS IS AGAINST POLLUTERS WHO HAVE A TRACK RECORD ON THE MOST SERIOUS VIOLATIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THOSE FOUND TO BE IN SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANCE AND THUS THE RETENTION OF A FEDERAL OVERSIGHT ROLE I THINK IS VERY WISE. LET ME JUST AMPLIFY THAT. IN SEPTEMBER, 2009, "THE NEW YORK TIMES" HIGHLIGHTED THAT FROM 2004 TO 2008 506,000 VIOLATIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT WERE REPORTED FOR BOTH MAJOR AND MINOR FACILITIES AND DURING THAT TIME THE STATES ONLY TOOK 11,000 ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. BASICALLY 2% ENFORCEMENT RATE. WE NEED TO HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RETAIN ITS OVERSIGHT ROLE. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO THAT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:56:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RESERVES. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:56:42 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I JUST WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE, IF THERE'S A PERMITHOLDER IN VIOLATION, THE…

    I JUST WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE, IF THERE'S A PERMITHOLDER IN VIOLATION, THE STATES HAVE AN OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY TO STEP IN AND TAKE ACTION AND ENFORCEMENT. IF THEY DIDN'T I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST E.P.A. I DON'T THINK THIS AMENDMENT DOES ANYTHING TO HELP THE BILL. I THINK THE BILL HELP TAKES CARE OF IT AND PEOPLE IN VIOLATION WOULD BE PROSECUTED UNDER THE LAW. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 03:57:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:57:14 PM

    MR. POLIS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO SAYING…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO SAYING I DON'T BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE YET ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE ON THE STATES. WHILE THE NUMBER OF UNREGULATED FACILITIES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED IN THE LAST DECADE, MANY BUDGETS HAVE BEEN FLAT. IN NEW YORK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NUMBER OF REGULATED POLLUTERS HAVE DOUBLED IN THE LAST DECADE BUT THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS HAVE REMAPED THE SAME. AGAIN, MY AMENDMENT SENDS HABITUAL BAD ACTOR TO THE E.P.A., NOT FOR PUNISHMENT, SIMPLY FOR CLOSER SCRUTINY. MY AMENDMENT DOES NOT AFFECT PUNISHMENT. IT ALLOWS E.P.A. TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE FREQUENT VIOLATE ARE. AS WITH THE PRACTICE OF SIGNIFICANT NONCOMPLIANCE. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE WORST VIOLATORS ARE PROPERLY INSPECTED IN SUPPORT OF STATE REGULATION, AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:58:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HAVING EXPIRED, THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    HAVING EXPIRED, THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 03:58:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 03:58:43 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF…

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF VIRGINIA.

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  • 03:58:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY. MR.

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  • 03:59:04 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D BE REMISS IF I FAILED TO NOTE THE IRONY OF…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D BE REMISS IF I FAILED TO NOTE THE IRONY OF THE LEGISLATION BEFORE US TODAY. AFTER SEVEN MONTHS OF RANTING AND RAVING OF THE LACK OF REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY WHICH CAUSES ECONOMIC STAGNATION, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS NOW ATTEMPTING TO PASS A BILL WHICH WILL REPLACE A CLEAR, PREDICTABLE, NATIONAL CLEAN WATER STANDARD WITH AN UTTERLY UNPREDICTABLE PATCHWORK OF STATE STANDARDS. CHAOS DOES NOT FEDERALISM MAKE, NOR AS ONE STATE'S ABILITY TO SULLY A DOWNSTREAM STATE'S WATER CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. THIS LEGISLATION WITH THE ORWELLIAN TITLE OF THE CLEAN WATER COOPERATIVE FEDERALISM ACT, WOULD HURT THE PRECIOUS CHESAPEAKE BAY IN OUR REGION OF THE NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION. THE BAY WATERSHED THAT ENCOMPASSES SIX STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. LOGIC THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY AND OTHER SURVEYS WORK IN TAN DUMB WITH STATES WITHOUT THE -- TANDEM WITH STATES THROUGHOUT THE REGION TO HELP WITH THE BAY. THOUGH THEY DO NOT CORRESPOND EASILY WITH STATE LINES, THIS KIND OF INTERAGENCY COOPERATION WITH ESSENTIAL AND EFFICIENT TO RESTORE AMERICA'S LARGEST ESTUARY. H.R. 2018 WOULD UNRAVEL THAT RELATIONSHIP, UNDERMINING BAY RESTORATION. I'VE DRAFTED A SIMPLE AMENDMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO EXEMPT WATERSHEDS LIKE THE CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM THIS BILL. BY LIMITING THE JURISDICTION TO WATERSHEDS WHICH DO NOT RECEIVE FEDERAL AID FOR WATERSHED RESTORATION AND RELATED ACTIVITIES. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW CRITICAL EFFORTS SUCH AS THE RESTORATION OF THE BAY, LONG ISLAND SOUND, THE GREAT LAKES, GULF OF MEXICO AND SAN FRANCISCO BAY AND OTHER GREAT WATERS TO CONTINUE. IT WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THE UNDENIABLE FACT THAT WATER DOES NOT STOP WHEN IT REACHES THE STATE LINE. THIS SEAMED IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE GREAT WATERS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR AMERICAN HERITAGE. THE CHESAPEAKE BAY WAS WHERE JOHN SMITH ARRIVED AND FUNDED JAMESTOWN. THE FIRST COLONIAL EXPLORATION OF VIRGINIA USED THE BAY TO EXPLORE VIRGINIA. THE CHESAPEAKE IS HOME TO THE FRENCH BLOCK BLOCADE TO THE BRITISH NAVY WHICH ALLOWED GEORGE WASHINGTON TO HAVE VICTORY AT YORKTOWN AND A SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION TO THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR. FOR 200 YEARS THIS CHESAPEAKE BAY WAS ONE OF THE AMERICA'S MOST PRODUCTIVE FISHERIES, FUELING THE GROWTH OF COMMUNITIES SUCH AS ALEXANDRIA, NORFOLK AND BALTIMORE. AS WELL AS FLEETS OF BOATS. UNFORTUNATELY DEVELOPMENT WIPED OUT MANY OF THE FISHERIES THAT WERE ONCE SO PRODUCTIVE. WHEN JOHN SMICT ARRIVED IN THE BAY, HIS CREW NEGLECTED TO BRING FISHING LINE BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL FISH OUT OF THE BAY BY SCOOPING THEM OUT OF THE WATER. THE OYSTERS IN THE BAY WERE THICK AND WERE SO PROLIFIC THAT THEY CLEANED THE ENTIRE VOLUME OF THE BAY DAILY. THE SHAD RUNS UP TO JAMES AND THE POTOMAC RISKERS WERE SO IMMENSE THAT COLONIAL OBSERVERS NOTED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO WALK ALL THE WAY FROM THE JAMES FOR RICHMOND TO MANCHESTER ON THE BACKS OF FISH WITHOUT EVER TOUCHING WATER. THESE FISH WERE SO LARGE AND POWERFUL THEY SHOOK THE FIRST MANCHESTER BRIDGE ON ITS PEERS. OF COURSE THE BAY IS PART OF A MUCH LARGER WATERSHED NOW. TO RESTORE THIS GREAT WATER BODY, MANY FEDERAL AGENCIES HAVE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH STATES, LOCALITIES AND LAND OWNERS. AS WRITTEN H.R. 2018 WOULD RUPTURE THAT PARTNERSHIP EFFECTIVELY GIVING ANY ONE STATE THE AUTHORITY OVER THE REGION'S RESTORATION EFFORTS. MY SIMPLE AMENDMENT WOULD PROTECT OUR ABILITY TO KEEP WORKING TOGETHER AS A REGION TO RESTORE THE BAY. THIS REGIONAL EFFORT WAS FIRST STARTED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BY A REPUBLICAN, MY OLD FRIEND, REPUBLICAN U.S. SENATOR CHARLES OF MARYLAND. TO THE EXTENT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS TODAY, IT'S AS A RESULT OF THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN VIRGINIA WHOSE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS INVESTING OVER $100 MILLION ANNUALLY IN PRIVATE LAND CONSERVATION AND A REPUBLICAN-LED INITIATIVE UNDER A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR. LET US NOT TURN OUR BACKS ON THIS 30-YEAR PARTNERSHIP. I ASK THE SUPPORT FOR THIS COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT TO CONTINUE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO AMERICA'S LARGEST AND MOST HISTORIC ESTUARY AS WELL AS OUR NATION'S OTHER GREAT WATERS. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:03:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    MR. GIBBS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. THE CONNOLLY AMENDMENT SAYS THAT THE UNDERLYING BILL WILL NOT…

    THANK YOU. THE CONNOLLY AMENDMENT SAYS THAT THE UNDERLYING BILL WILL NOT APPLY TO ANY WATERS FOR WHICH FEDERAL FUND SOMETHING PROVIDED. THIS WOULD HAVE AN AFFECT OF REALIGNING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR PROJECTS AND SUBJECT STATES WITH WATERS FOR WHICH FEDERAL FUND SOMETHING PROVIDED TO GREATER E.P.A. IMPOSITION OF FEDERAL ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL POLICIES. AS DRAFTED THE SCOPE OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING INTENDED TO BE COVERED THUNDERSTORM AMENDMENT IS UNCLEAR. BUT COULD BE INTERPRETED TO BE ALMOST LIMITLESS IN COVERAGE. AS A RESULT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW E.P.A. TO DETERMINE THAT THE AMENDMENT APPLIES TO VIRTUALLY ALL WATERS WITH THE CONSEQUENT EFFECT OF NULLIFYING THE UNDERLYING BILL. RATHER THAN NULLIFYING THIS LEGISLATION, I WOULD RATHER MR. CONNOLLY JOIN THOSE OF WHITE HOUSE THINK IT WOULD BE MORE PROTECT -- PRODUCTIVE TO EASE THE BURDEN OF UNNECESSARY REGULATION AND PROVIDE THE STATES MORE AUTHORITY IN CARRYING OUT THE CLEAN WATER ACT. I URGE ALL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THE CONNOLLY AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:04:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:04:46 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    I WOULD INQUIRE HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE NOES APPEAR TO HAVE IT.

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  • 04:05:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:06:07 PM

    MR. COHEN

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. COHEN OF…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. COHEN OF TENNESSEE.

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  • 04:06:17 PM

    MR. COHEN

    THAT THE AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED READ.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT WILL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. PURSUANT TO…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT WILL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE.

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  • 04:06:32 PM

    MR. COHEN

    MR. SPEAKER. WHILE ON THIS FOURTH OF JULY MOST AMERICANS WERE PARTAKING IN…

    MR. SPEAKER. WHILE ON THIS FOURTH OF JULY MOST AMERICANS WERE PARTAKING IN AMERICAN PASTIMES LIKE BARBEQUING AND WATCHING BALL GAMES, MONTANANS WERE IMMERSED IN A NEW TRADITION, CLEANING UP AN OIL SPILL. IN THIS CASE THEY WERE WORKING AND ARE STILL WORKING TO CLEAN UP 40,000-GALLON LEAK FROM EXXON MOBIL'S SILVER-TIPPED PIPELINE. A SPILL THAT'S HAVING A DEVASTATING IMPACT ON THE RESIDENCE, ECONOMY AND ENVIRONMENT OF THE STATE OF MONTANA. AS WRITEN THIS LEGISLATION OPENS THE DOOR FOR MORE DESTRUCTIVE EVENTS LIKE THE YELLOWSTONE SPILL. THIS IS WHY I PROPOSED A SIMPLE ZERO COST AMENDMENT THAT WILL RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND CONTINUE PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ITS ENVIRONMENT, OUR ECONOMY, OUR WATER SYSTEM FROM THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF PIPELINE SPILLS. THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE YELLOWSTONE SPILL HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE SPILL OCCURRED BECAUSE THE PIPELINE WAS NOT BURIED DEEP ENOUGH BELOW THE STREAM BED. HAVE HAVING ONLY BEEN BURIED FIVE FEET BELOW THE RIVER, YEARS OF YELLOWSTONE RIVER'S POWERFUL FLOW REMOVED MUCH OF THE SEDIMENT COVERING THE PIPELINE TO THE POINT WHERE THE PIPELINE WAS DIRECTLY EXPOSED. ONCE EXPOSED THE PIPELINE WAS WEAKENED BY THE ELEMENTS MOVING DOWN THE RIVER. IN ORDER TO BURY A PIPELINE BENEATH A STREAM BED, THE COMPANY BUILDING THE PIPELINE OFTEN HAS A BEEN RELIED UPON AND APPLIED TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO BREDGE AND FILL -- DREDGE AND FILL. WHILE THE CORPS HAS THE -- ABILITY TO ISSUE THE PERMIT, E.P.A. HAS OVERSIGHT AND MAKES SURE THAT THE PIPELINE IS APPROPRIATE. THIS OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY IS AN EFFECTIVE, NONBURDENSOME SAFETY FEATURE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT SERVES AS A BACKSTOP TO FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATORS AND PROTECTS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. ALL THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS ENSURE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT PREVENT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FROM EXERCISING THIS AUTHORITY. IT DOES NOT CREATE A NEW PERMITTING REQUIREMENT OR PROCESS, HISTORICALLY THE CITING OF PIPELINES HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT CALL FOR ENHANCED OVERSIGHT, CREATE A NEW PROCESS OR REQUIRE ANYTHING MORE FROM PIPELINE OWNERS OR BUILDERS. RATHER IT SIMPLY PRESERVES THE EXISTING RIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TO EXERCISE OVERSIGHT IN EGREGIOUS CASES. EVERY PIECE OF OIL INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S A PIPELINE OR A DRILL RIG, HAS BACKUP SAFETY FEATURES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE SAFE OPERATION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THOSE SAFETY BACKUPS LIKE THE DEAD MAN SWITCH ON A DRILL RIG ONLY FUNCTION WHEN -- FUNCTION WHEN THE FIRST SET OF SAFETY VALVES FEATURES FAIL. THE E.P.A.'S OVERSIGHT OF THE PERMITS FOR PIPELINES ARE JUST LIKE THE DEAD MAN'S SWITCH ON THE OIL RIG. IT IS ONLY THERE AS A BACK UP ABOUT -- BACKUP PROTECTION IN CASE THE CORPS MIGHT FAIL. IF THE OIL INDUSTRY USES SAFETY SYSTEMS, WHY SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT DO THE SAME? WE ARE THE ULTIMATE PROTECTOR OF THE WATER OF OUR PEOPLE. WITH THE DEMAND FOR OIL IN THE UNITED STATES INCREASING MORE AND MORE PIPELINES ARE BEING PROPOSED. MANY OF THESE PIPELINES WILL CAUSE ECONOMICALLY CRITICAL, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE BODIES OF WATER LIKE THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER. SIGNIFICANT PIPELINE SPILLS LIKE THE MILLION-GALLON SPILL IN MICHIGAN LAST YEAR HAVE REAL IMPLICATIONS FOR REAL PEOPLE. JUST ASK THE PEOPLE OF MICHIGAN WHO ALMOST A YEAR LATE RAILROAD STILL RECOVERING FROM THAT SPILL. IN ORDER TO AVOID SIMILAR TRAGEDIES IN THE FUTURE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO RETHAN EXISTING PROTECTIONS. THIS AMENDMENT DOES THAT BY MAINTAINING E.P.A.'S EXISTING AUTHORITY TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND ENSURE THAT OUR WATTERS ARE NOT CONTAMINATED. I URGE PASSAGE OF THIS IMPORTANT SAFETY AMENDMENT WILL ENSURE THAT OUR NATION'S PIPELINES ARE AS CONSISTENT AND AS SAFE AND RELIABLE AS OLD FAITHFUL. WHICH RESIDES IN YELLOWSTONE PARK AND WHOSE RIVER IS BEING THREATENED. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. AND ASK FOR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

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  • 04:10:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 04:10:18 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION ALTHOUGH I AM NOT OPPOSED.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. E.P.A.'S ROLE IN REGULATING PIPELINES IS MINIMAL…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. E.P.A.'S ROLE IN REGULATING PIPELINES IS MINIMAL AS COMPARED TO THE ROLE OF OTHER AGENCIES. THIS BILL WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE REGULATORY PIPELINES, THEREFORE WE CAN ACCEPT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD MY TIME.

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  • 04:10:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.

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  • 04:10:52 PM

    MR. COHEN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144.…

    IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:11:07 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    I SEEK RECOGNITION TO AUFERT AMENDMENT ON BEHALF OF MR. MARKY.

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    THE CLERK

    9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. BLUMENAUER OF OREGON.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. BLUMENAUER, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 04:11:31 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    YOU. I WOULD YIELD MYSELF THREE MINUTES.

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    MR. BLUMENAUER

    THIS AMENDMENT ENSURES PROTECTION FOR WATERS AND WETLAND THAT PROVIDE…

    THIS AMENDMENT ENSURES PROTECTION FOR WATERS AND WETLAND THAT PROVIDE FLOOD PROTECTION, ARE ECONOMICALLY VALUABLE HABITATS OR ARE COASTAL RECREATION WATERS. HEALTHY STREAMS AND WETLANDS PROVIDE VITAL PUBLIC BENEFITS FOR FLOOD PROTECTION, COMMERCE AND PUBLIC HEALTH. AND AS THERE IS AN EFFORT ON THE PART OF MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO ELIMINATE THESE CRITICAL PROTECTIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. POLLUTION DESTROYS HABITAT AND CRIPPLES LOCAL FISHING AND TOURISM. THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WELL, IT COSTS MONEY TO DEAL WITH TREATING POLLUTED WATERS. THERE ARE 40 MILLION RECREATIONAL ANGLERS IN AMERICA THAT GENERATE $125 BILLION IN ECONOMIC OUTPUT, INCLUDING $45 BILLION IN RETAIL SALES AND PAY $16.4 BILLION IN STATE AND FEDERAL TAXES. THE SPORT SUPPORTS OVER ONE MILLION AMERICAN JOBS RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEN A WETLAND IS FILLED WITH SEDIMENT OR DRAINED IT CAN NO LONGER PROTECT TOWNS FROM DEVASTATING FLOODS. WE'VE HAD WITNESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF THIS DEVASTATING IMPACT. AN ACRE OF WETLAND PROVIDES MORE THAN 10,000 -- $10,000 PER PERSON IN PUBLIC BENEFITS. AND IF YOU LOSE 1% OF A WATERSHEDS WETLAND, IT CAN INCREASE FLOOD VOLUME BY ALMOST 7%. THESE ARE NATURE'S SPONGES THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT NOT ALL STATES PROTECT THE QUALITY OF THEIR WATER. SOME STATES JUST SIMPLY DON'T CARE AS MUCH AS OTHER STATES, SOME STATES ARE NOT AS CAPABLE OF PROTECTING IT. IN THOSE STATES WHERE PROTECTION IS LAX, THE E.P.A. MUST HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STEP IN TO PROTECT THE ECONOMY, THE ENVIRONMENT AND HUMAN WELFARE FOR RESIDENTS IN STATES -- IN THAT STATE AS WELL AS THE STATES THAT ARE DOWNSTREAM THAT WOULD ALSO BE AFFECTED. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE AMERICANS HELD HOSTAGE TO THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR OF PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY ARE NOT GOING TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD. THIS AMENDMENT PRESERVES THAT AUTHORITY FOR THE E.P.A. TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES WHO RELY ON WATER FOR FISHING AND OTHER ECONOMIC BENEFITS, ALONG WITH WETLANDS THAT CREATE VITAL FLOOD PROTECTION. MR. SPEAKER, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC STRONGLY SUPPORTS CLEAN WATER, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PIECES OF LEGISLATION SINCE IT WAS ENACTED IN THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION. UNTIL NOW IT HAS HAD PRETTY BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. THE LEGISLATION HERE REPRESENTS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE ATTACK ON IT, IN MY MEMORY, IN 15 YEARS IN CONGRESS. THIS AMENDMENT AT LEAST WOULD CLARIFY THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I URGE ITS ADOPTION.

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  • 04:14:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 04:14:47 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I WISH TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MUST STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT…

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MUST STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT BASICALLY AIMS TO GUT THE UNDERLYING BILL. THIS AMENDMENT IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE E.P.A. CAN BEEN TO UNILATERALLY FORCE ITS OWN ONE HAD -- ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL FEDERAL POLICIES ONTO THE STATES' WATER QUALITY PROGRAMS. THE UNDERLYING BILL, H.R. 2018, RE-ESTABLISHES THE STATES' BALANCED ROLE IN CARRYING OUT THE PROVISIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT BUT THIS AMENDMENT IN EFFECT SAYS THAT THE UNDERLYING BILL WILL NOT APPLY TO VIRTUALLY ANY -- ANYWHERE IN THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THIS AMENDMENT ALSO SAYS THAT THE STATES CANNOT BE TRUSTED IN PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF THEIR WATERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR CITIZENS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KNOWS BEST. ONCE STATES HAVE APPROVED CLEAN WATER PROGRAMS, THEY ARE CAPABLE OF ADMINISTERING THEIR PROGRAMS AND CARING FOR THE WELFARE OF THEIR CITIZENS. E.P.A. NEEDS TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF THE STATES IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. H.R. 2018 IS A GOOD BILL THAT RESTORES BALANCE TO AN OUT-OF-CONTROL U.S. C.P.A. THE INTENT OF THE AMENDMENT IS TO MAKE THE BILL COMPLETELY UNWORKABLE, AND I WILL ADD THAT I THINK THE CLEAN WATER ACT HAS WORKED UNTIL NOW, WHEN THE STATES HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO ASSERT THEIR AUTHORITY AND ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE STATE AND FEDERAL E.P.A. -- ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. I URGE ALL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:16:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES. MR.

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  • 04:16:27 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON, THE GENTLEMAN…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON, THE GENTLEMAN WHO DEEPLY UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 04:16:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. DEFAZIO, IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. DEFAZIO

    THE GENTLEMAN SAYS IT WOULD GUT THE BILL. HE'S RIGHT. THIS BILL DESERVES…

    THE GENTLEMAN SAYS IT WOULD GUT THE BILL. HE'S RIGHT. THIS BILL DESERVES TO BE GUTTED THIS BILL WOULD TAKE US BACK TO CLEAN WATER STANDARDS. THE STATES, IF THEY HAVE STANDARDS, SHOULDN'T BE BOTHERED BY THE E.P.A. THIS SAYS IF A STATE HAS ADOPTED STAN CARDS ON PAPER AND CHOOSE NOT TO COMPLIANCE, THE E.P.A. CAN TAKE NO ACTION. IT FURTHER SAYS IF WE DISCOVER A NEW HARMFUL POLLUTANT, AS WE DID RECENTLY WHEN WE UPGRADED THE STANDARDS FOR ARSENIC, MOST OF US DON'T WANT OUR KIDS DRINKING ARSENIC IN THE WATER, THE E.P.A. CANNOT ENFORCE NEW NATIONAL STANDARDS IF WE DISCOVER A NEW DANGEROUS POLLUTANT UNLESS THE STATE AGREES. IT'S OPTIONAL. IT'S UP TO THE STATE. THEN, OF COURSE IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE DOWNSTREAM FROM A STATE THAT'S CHOOSING TO STICK IT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE BY NOT ADOPTING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OR NOT ENFORCING THEIR EXISTING STANDARDS, YOU'RE DOWNSTREAM YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE. THIS BILL IS ABSURD IN DETERMINES OF THE FACT THAT IT IS JUST DESIGNED TO TOTALLY GUT THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND TURN BACK THE CLOCK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN WE HAD RIVERS THAT BURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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  • 04:17:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON RESERVES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 04:18:01 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON.

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    MR. BLUMENAUER

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM LONG ISLAND WHO HAS SOME…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM LONG ISLAND WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE WITH PROBLEMS OF WATER POLLUTION AND EROSION.

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  • 04:18:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    >>

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR OFFERING…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT ALONG WITH MR. MARKEY AND MR. DEFAZIO.

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  • 04:18:28 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    IF THIS BILL WERE ENACTED AS DRAFTED, IT WOULD NO NOT -- MANY SOURCES OF…

    IF THIS BILL WERE ENACTED AS DRAFTED, IT WOULD NO NOT -- MANY SOURCES OF CLEAN DRINKING WATER WOULD BE IMPERILED, VALUABLE FISHING AND WILDLIFE AREAS WOULD BE IN DANGER AND VALUABLE COASTLINES WOULD BE AT RISK, INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC RESOURCES THEY PROVIDE. THE AMENDMENT SIMPLY -- SIMPLY RESTRICTS THE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL THAT ENDANGER WATERS, PROVIDE FLOOD PROTECTION FOR COMMUNITIES OR ARE COASTAL RECREATIONAL WATERS THAT ARE THE BACK BONE OF MY DISTRICT'S ECONOMY. IN FACT, MY DISTRICT WILL FACE REAL ECONOMIC DANGER IF THIS BILL IS NOT AMENDED, NOT TO MENTION THE ENVIRONMENTAL DANGER THAT MY DISTRICT AND DISTRICTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WILL FACISM STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:19:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I'D LIKE TO COMMENT, FROM THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON --

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    MR. GIBBS

    I'D LIKE TO COMMENT, FROM THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON --

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    IF THERE'S A NEW POLLUTANT, THE STATE HAS TO TAKE ACTION AND THE E.P.A.…

    IF THERE'S A NEW POLLUTANT, THE STATE HAS TO TAKE ACTION AND THE E.P.A. HAS TO WORK COOPERATIVELY TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

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  • 04:19:47 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    ABOUT STATES, YOU KNOW, WON'T TAKE ACTION, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT A STATE…

    ABOUT STATES, YOU KNOW, WON'T TAKE ACTION, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT A STATE E.P.A. WON'T TAKE ACTION. OREGON, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ACTION IN OREGON, HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY AND I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 04:20:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE NOES APPEAR TO HAVE IT.

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  • 04:20:18 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    ON THAT I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON WILL BE POSTPONED.

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  • 04:20:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO SPEAK ON AMENDMENT 10.

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    >>

    I WISH TO OFFER AMENDMENT 10.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DEZ EGG NATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    IN HOUSE REPORT 112-134, OFFERED BY MR. CARNAHAN OF MISSOURI.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CARNAHAN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CARNAHAN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM

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  • 04:21:39 PM

    MR. CARNAHAN

    MR. SPEAKER. 2011 IS ALREADY THE COSTLIEST YEAR FOR NATURAL DISASTERS IN…

    MR. SPEAKER. 2011 IS ALREADY THE COSTLIEST YEAR FOR NATURAL DISASTERS IN HISTORY. OVER $250 BILLION IN ECONOMIC DAMAGES HAVE BEEN INCURRED AROUND THE WORLD AND THE U.S. ALONE, STORMS, FLOODING, WILD FIRES AND EARTHQUAKES HAVE DONE ROUGHLY $27 BILLION IN DAMAGE, MORE THAN DOUBLE THE ANNUAL AVERAGE OVER THE LAST DECADE. NEAR THE CONFLUENCE OF OUR TWO GREATEST RIVER THE MISSISSIPPI AND MISSOURI, MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE ST. LOUIS REGION HAVE REBUILT FROM FLOODS MANY TIMES AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES FACING COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION IN THIS UNPRECEDENTED SEASON OF FLOODS. EVEN AFTER THE CLEANUP HAS BEGUN, FLOOD AFFECTED COMMUNITIES FACE THE PROSPECT OF PUBLIC HEALTH EPIDEMICS SPREAD BY DIRTY WATER, IN EFFECT CREATING A DOUBLE CRISIS FOR COMMUNITIES ALREADY STRUGGLING TO PICK UP THE PIECES. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE SHOCKING IMAGES FROM CITIES LARGE AND SMALL ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI THIS SPRING AND THE LAST THING THESE COMMUNITIES NEED ARE WEAKENED CLEAN WATER STANDARDS THAT WOULD PUT THEM AT RISK OF WATER-BORNE DISEASES OR TOXIC CHEMICALS. MY AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2018 WOULD ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES RECOVERING FROM DEVASTATING FLOODS WOULD NOT BE BURDENED BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH THREATS POSED BY DIRTY WATER. IT SIMPLY STATES THAT NONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF H.R. 2018 WOULD APPLY, WHERE THE PRESIDENT HAS DECLARED A DISASTER DUE TO FLOODING WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, OR TO WATERS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SUCH A FLOOD. THIS IS A COMMON SENSE AMENDMENT, IT WILL HELP REASSURE FLOOD-AFFECTED COMMUNITIES THAT THEIR WATER IS SAFE AND HEALTHY. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND UP FOR FLOOD AFFECTED COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE CARNAHAN AMENDMENT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:23:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 04:23:36 PM

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    I WISH TO CLAIM TIME KNOPP SIGS TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GIBBS

    THANK YOU. UNDER MR. CARNAHAN'S AMENDMENT IF THE STATE HAS MADE A DISASTER…

    THANK YOU. UNDER MR. CARNAHAN'S AMENDMENT IF THE STATE HAS MADE A DISASTER DECLARATION ANY TIME IN THE LAST FIVE YEAR H.R. 2018 WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE TO WATERS IN THE AREA. THIS WOULD CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE E.P.A. TO OVERTURN STATE-ESTABLISHED AND U.S. E.P.A.-APPROVED WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND UNILATERALLY IMPOSE DICTATED PERMITTING ON STATES AND OTHER DISASTER RESPONDERS. THIS WOULD IMPACT ON THE ABILITY OF STATES AND OTHER DISASTER RESPONDERS TO RESPOND TO AND CONDUCT CLEANUPS AFTER MAJOR FLOOD DISASTERS AND WOULD DISCOURAGE STATES FROM SEEKING DISASTER ASSISTANCE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE ALL MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THE CARNAHAN AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE PLANS OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:24:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

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  • 04:24:39 PM

    MR. CARNAHAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. SO I YIELD BACK THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. SO I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:24:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    MR. GIBBS

    I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE NOES APPEAR TO HAVE IT.

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  • 04:25:10 PM

    MR. CARNAHAN

    I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT QUESTION.

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI WILL BE POSTPONED.…

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 04:25:23 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DO NOW RISE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN MOVES THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE DO NOW RISE. THOSE IN…

    THE GENTLEMAN MOVES THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE DO NOW RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES VISIT. THE COMMITTEE DOES NOW RISE.

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  • 04:25:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MR. SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    MR. SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2018, DIRECTS ME TO REPORT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 04:26:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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    THE CHAIR

    THE HOUSE IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE HOUSE IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2018 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 05:21:09 PM

    THE CLERK

    DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND FOR…

    DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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    THE CHAIR

    WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY A REQUEST FOR A…

    WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CARNAHAN, HAD BEEN POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 BY MRS. CAPITO OF WEST VIRGINIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 BY MR. POLIS OF COLORADO. AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 BY MR. CONNOLLY OF VIRGINIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 BY MR. BLUMENAUER OF OREGON. AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 BY MR. CARNAHAN OF MISSOURI. AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO TWO MINUTES THE MINIMUM TIME FOR ANY ELECTRONIC VOTE AFTER THE FIRST VOTE IN THIS SERIES. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 BY THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:22:38 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS.

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  • 05:22:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:52:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 170, THE NAYS ARE 252. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 170, THE NAYS ARE 252. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS, PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WILL BE IN ORDER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM MISSOURI RISE?

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  • 05:53:08 PM

    MS. EMERSON

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SPEAK FOR A MINUTE OUT OF ORDER.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. EMERSON

    THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER.

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    MS. EMERSON

    YOU, LINDA SANCHEZ.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLELADY FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ

    WE ARE SO PROUD OF NOT JUST OUR VICTORY AND WE ARE REALLY SO SORRY THAT…

    WE ARE SO PROUD OF NOT JUST OUR VICTORY AND WE ARE REALLY SO SORRY THAT OUR OPPOSITION IS NOT IN THE PRESS GALLERY TO WITNESS THIS ACCEPTANCE OF THE TROPHY, BUT THE TWO THINGS WE ARE THE MOST PROUD OF, ONE, WE CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST EXAMPLE OF BIPARTISANSHIP IN THE CAPITOL, IN THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL, AND WE HOPE THAT OUR FRIENDS FRIENDSHIP WILL EXTEND TO THE REST OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT EXAMPLE. WE KNOW IT CARRIES OVER TO OUR FRIENDSHIPS. AND NUMBER TWO, THE BENEFICIARY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL WOMEN'S SOFTBALL TEAM IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS DEDICATED SO RAISING AWARENESS AND PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO WOMEN DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER UNDER 40 YEARS OLD. I WAS 41 WHEN I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER AND STILL HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE ONLY TWO WOMEN, BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, MYSELF AND SUE MY RICK, THAT IS BIPARTISAN -- MIREIC, AND THAT IS BIP AS WELL. AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMRADEY AND I CAN'T GET THROUGH THIS WITHOUT BEING EMOTIONAL. THE WOMEN CAME OUT AT 20 DIFFERENT TIMES AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING TO PRACTICE FOR THIS GAME. WE RAISED $50,000 FOR THE COALITION. AND SO MANY OF YOU CAME OUT, SO MANY OF OUR STAFF CAME OUT, WE HAD 875 PEOPLE COME OUT AND WATCH THE GAME AND IT WAS A PHENOMENAL SUCCESS. WE WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR. THE PRESS WANTS A REMATCH. THEY TOLD US SO. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEATING THEM NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND WE YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME.

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  • 05:57:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, TWO-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE, THE UNFINISHED…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, TWO-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE, THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 BY THE GENTLELADY FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MS. CAPTAIN TOE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:57:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MRS. CAPITO OF WEST VIRGINIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN IN SUPPORT OF A RE-- RECORDED VOTE WILL…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN IN SUPPORT OF A RE-- RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:01:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 268, THE NAYS ARE 192, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.…

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 268, THE NAYS ARE 192, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. THE UNFIN HERBED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:02:09 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER FIVE, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144, OFFERED BY MR. POLIS OF…

    NUMBER FIVE, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144, OFFERED BY MR. POLIS OF COLORADO.

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  • 06:02:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:05:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 191, THE NAYS ARE 231, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 191, THE NAYS ARE 231, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-1414 -- 144, FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY A VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:06:14 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF…

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF VIRGINIA.

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  • 06:06:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:09:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 181, THE NAYS ARE 240, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 181, THE NAYS ARE 240, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. BLUMENAUER, ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. CHE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:10:16 PM

    THE CLERK

    IN HOUSE REPORT 112-149, OFFERED BY MR. BLUMENAUER OF OREGON.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:13:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 183, THE NAYS ARE 237, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE…

    YEAS ARE 183, THE NAYS ARE 237, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 PRINTED IN -- PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CON HAHN ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED, AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:13:51 PM

    THE CLERK

    10 OFFERED BY MR. CARNAHAN OF

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    THE CHAIR

    THE YEAS ARE 173 AND THE NAYS ARE --

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    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 173, THE NAYS ARE 247.

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    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 173, THE NAYS ARE 247. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 173, THE NAYS ARE 247. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 1, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND THE AYES PREVAILED. THE CLERK WILL REDEATH THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:18:02 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-144 OFFERED BY MS. ISRAEL OF TEXAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A RECORDED VOTE…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:21:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 167, THE NAYS ARE 254. AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE…

    YEAS ARE 167, THE NAYS ARE 254. AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 06:22:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAS HAD UNDER…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2018 AND PURSUANT TO HOUSE RULE 347, I REPORT THE BILL BACK TO THE HOUSE WITH AN AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

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  • 06:22:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION THE BILL H.R. 2018 AND PURSUANT…

    THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION THE BILL H.R. 2018 AND PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 347 REPORTS THE BILL BACK TO THE HOUSE WITH AN AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. UNDER THE RULE, THE QUESTION IS ORDERED. IS A SEPARATE VOTE DEMANDED? IF NOT, QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE COMMITTEE -- OF THE COMMITTEE AAMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE QUESTION IS ON ENGROSSMENT AND THIRD READING OF THE BILL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THIRD READING.

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  • 06:23:07 PM

    THE CLERK

    FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH…

    FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT TO PRESERVE THE AUTHORITY OF EACH STATE TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS RELATING TO THE STATE'S WATER QUALITY STANDS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 06:23:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. PLEASE TAKE YOUR…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR AND CLEAR THE AISLES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 06:23:48 PM

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    TO RECOMMIT AT THE DESK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    IS THE GENTLEMAN OPPOSE TODD THE BILL.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE MOTION.

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    THE CLERK

    TO RECOMMIT THE BILL WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO REPORT THE SAME BACK TO THE…

    TO RECOMMIT THE BILL WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO REPORT THE SAME BACK TO THE HOUSE FORTHWITH WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. AT THE END OF THE BILL, ADD THE FOLLOWING, SECTION 6, LIMITATION ON APPLICABILITY, NONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT INCLUDING THE AMENDMENTS SHALL AFFECT THE AUTHORITY OF THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE E.P.A. AS IN EFFECT ON THE DAY BEFORE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THIS ACT WITH RESPECT TO ANY DISCHARGE UNDER THE FEDERAL WATER POLLUTION CONTROL ACT. INCLUDING ARSENIC OR OTHERS THAT ARE A SOURCE FOR A PUBLIC DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.

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  • 06:24:45 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. FIRST, THE HOUSE WILL BE IN…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. FIRST, THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN DESERVES TO BE HEARD. MEMBERS WILL PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 06:25:05 PM

    MR. MCNERNEY

    TO OFFER A STRAIGHTFORWARD AND MOTION TO RECOMMIT. MY AMENDMENT IS AN…

    TO OFFER A STRAIGHTFORWARD AND MOTION TO RECOMMIT. MY AMENDMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PROPOSAL THAT IF ADOPTED WILL ALLOW A VOTE ON FINAL PASSAGE TO PROCEED IMMEDIATELY. MY MOTION CLARIFIES THAT THE PROVISIONS OF H.R. 2018 DO NOT AFFECT OUR COUNTRY'S ABILITY TO LIMIT POLLUTION OF DRINKING WATER SUPPLIERS, INCLUDING ARSENIC. COMMUNITIES ACROSS AMERICA HAVE SUFFERED FROM ARSENIC AND OTHER CONTAMINATION --

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  • 06:25:41 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN DESERVES TO BE HEARD. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN DESERVES TO BE HEARD. THE GENTLEMAN MAY CONTINUE.

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  • 06:25:49 PM

    MR. MCNERNEY

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. MCNERNEY

    ARSENIC HAS BEEN LINKED TO MANY HARMFUL EFFECTS AND INCLUDE BLADDER,…

    ARSENIC HAS BEEN LINKED TO MANY HARMFUL EFFECTS AND INCLUDE BLADDER, LIVER, LUNG AND PROSTATE CANCERS, REPRODUCTIVE AND THYROID COMPLICATIONS. THESE HEALTH PROBLEMS HAVE NO PARTY LINE AND AFFECT BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE. ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL, THE EFFECTS OF THE CONTAMINATION CAN EITHER BE SHORT-LIVED OR LINGER IN THE BODY FOR A LONG TIME. THIS COULD BE CONSEQUENTIAL FOR CHILDREN. SPEAKER, MAY I HAVE ORDER?

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  • 06:27:11 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN MAY CONTINUE.

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    MR. MCNERNEY

    OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THESE CONDITIONS OR WITNESSED A LOVED ONE GOING…

    OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THESE CONDITIONS OR WITNESSED A LOVED ONE GOING THROUGH A SERIOUS ILLNESS. IT'S A HEARTBREAKING EXPERIENCE. NO MATTER WHAT OUR DIFFERENCES ON POLICY MATTERS OR LEGISLATIONR WE ARE DEBATING TODAY AND KNOW WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT THESE DISEASES. OUR COUNTRY HAS MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN IMPROVING WATER QUALITY IN THE DECADE SINCE THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS PASSED. MR. SPEAKER, MAY I HAVE ORDER.

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  • 06:27:49 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN DESERVES TO BE HEARD. MEMBERS,…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN DESERVES TO BE HEARD. MEMBERS, PLEASE BRING YOUR CONVERSATIONS AWAY FROM THE FLOOR. THE GENTLEMAN MAY CONTINUE.

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  • 06:27:59 PM

    MR. MCNERNEY

    DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF WATERS THAT ARE SAFE FOR FISHING AND SWIMMING SINCE…

    DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF WATERS THAT ARE SAFE FOR FISHING AND SWIMMING SINCE IT WAS PASSED DECADES AGO. THAT IS A LEGACY AND ONE WE SHOULD STRIVE TO CONTINUE. ONE OF THE MOST BASIC THINGS WE SHOULD DO IS PREVENT CONTAMINATION. AS WRITTEN IN H.R. 2018, TIES OUR COUNTRY'S HANDS AND MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO COMBAT CONTAMINATION OF OUR DINCHINGING WATER SUPPLIES. 200 MILLION AMERICANS RELY ON PUBLIC DRINKING SYSTEMS. PRESERVING THE QUALITY OF WATER IS IMPORTANT TO THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO RELY ON IT FOR THE DRINKING AND FARMERS WHO RELY ON IT TO GROW THEIR CROPS AND BUSINESSES THAT DEPEND ON HEALTHY WATERWAYS. MY AMENDMENT IS NEEDED TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. WE CAN HAVE LEGITIMATE DIFFERENCES AND VIGOROUS DEBATE ABOUT THE PROPER ROLES OF STATE AND FEDERAL GOOSTS, BUT WE SHOULD BE -- GOVERNMENTS, BUT WE SHOULD BE UNITED TO PRESERVE HEALTHY DRINKING WATERS FOR OURSELVES AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. IF MY AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED, A VOTE ON FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R. 2018 WILL PROCEED IMMEDIATELY. THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT IS AN IMPORTANT POLICY PROPOSAL AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES ACROSS AMERICA AND STAND UP FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR DRINKING WATER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS COMMONSENSE MOTION TO RECOMMIT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:29:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    JABBED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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    TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION.

  • 06:29:51 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 06:30:06 PM

    MR. GIBBS

    AS WE HAVE SEEN THIS MOTION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PARTISAN POLITICAL…

    AS WE HAVE SEEN THIS MOTION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PARTISAN POLITICAL MOVE. THERE'S BEEN AMPLE TIME FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO SUGGEST AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL THROUGH REGULAR ORDER. AS WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL YEAR, OUR REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS OPENLY CONSIDERING BILLS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS IN FULL CONSIDERATION BY THE HOUSE. THIS BILL IS NO EXCEPTION. YET WE'RE HERE AT THE LAST MOTION THAT IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE E.P.A. CAN CONTINUE TO UNILATERALLY FORCE ITS OWN, ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL POLICIES ONTO THE STATES' WATER QUALITY PROGRAMS. THE UNDERLYING BILL REESTABLISHES THE STATES' BALANCED ROLE IN CARRYING OUT THE PROVISIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. BUT THIS MOTION IN EFFECT SAYS THE UNDERLYING BILL WILL NOT APPLY VIRTUALLY ANYWHERE THE CLEAN WATER ACT APPLIES. IMPLICITLY, THIS MOTION ALSO SAYS THE STATES CANNOT BE TRUSTED IN PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF THEIR WATERS AND THE HEALTH OF THEIR CITIZEN AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KNOWS BEST. THE FACT IS, OUR BILL IS A RESULT OF BIPARTISAN WORK THAT WILL PROTECT AGAINST UNWARRANTED INTRUSIONS BY THE U.S. E.P.A. IT ENSURES THE CONSUATION OF LONG STANDING COOPERATION BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATES TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS ISSUE REGULATIONS. PASSAGE OF THE UNDERLYING BILL WILL STOP THE E.P.A. FROM REPEATEDLY CREATING REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY AND FORCING UNNECESSARY AND ENDLESS DELAYS AND THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW. WITH THAT, I URGE A NO VOTE ON THE MOTION AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:31:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 06:31:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE. A…

    A RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 20, THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO FIVE MINUTES THE TIME NECESSARY FOR ANY VOTE ON PASSAGE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:48:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    YEAS ARE 188 AND THE NAYS ARE 238. THE MOTION IS NOT ADOPTED. THE QUESTION…

    YEAS ARE 188 AND THE NAYS ARE 238. THE MOTION IS NOT ADOPTED. THE QUESTION IS ON PASSAGE OF THE BILL. THE QUESTION IS ON PASSAGE OF THE BILL. UNDER CLAUSE -- THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR KS THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 06:48:42 PM

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    THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.] . THE YEAS ARE 239 AND THE NAYS ARE 184 AND THE BILL HAS PASSED. THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE? .

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  • 06:55:18 PM

    MS. ROS-LEHTINEN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MY NAME BE REMOVED AS A CO-SPONSOR OF HOUSE…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MY NAME BE REMOVED AS A CO-SPONSOR OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 306.

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  • 06:55:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MY NAME BE REMOVED AS A CO-SPONSOR OF H.R. 1380.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 337, RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 337, RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, MR. CHAFFETZ, KINDLY TAKE THE CHAIR.

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  • 06:56:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2354…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2354 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 06:56:14 PM

    THE CLERK

    MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT AND REALITIED…

    MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT AND REALITIED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR SEPTEMBER 30, 2012 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 06:56:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE ROSE, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ THROUGH PAGE 24, LINE 23.

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    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY SEEK RECOGNITION?…

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY SEEK RECOGNITION? FRELINGHUYSEN FREEMING I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL --

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  • 06:57:22 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE DAYS TO INCLUDE…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE DAYS TO INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL AND I MAY INCLUDE MATERIAL ON THE SAME.

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  • 06:57:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 06:58:01 PM

    THE CLERK

    57 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. REBERG OF MONTANA.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. I…

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THIS AMENDMENT DIRECTS 2.2 MILLION OF RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT BUDGET TO THE RISK-BASED DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT'S A STATE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY BASED INFORMATION SYSTEM INITIATIVE TO HELP STATES COLLECT AND AGGREGATE ESSENTIAL OIL, GAS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE INFORMATION, LOCAL GEOLOGY DATA, FRESH WATER DATA, AREA PRODUCTION HISTORICAL DATA AND INFORMATION PROVIDED BY COMPANIES WITH PERMITS. AND THIS IS EASIER, CHEAPER AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE FOR INDUSTRY AND ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT. MY AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY STATE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES, STATE REGULATORS, ENERGY INDUSTRY AND MANY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY. PROVIDING THIS FUNDING WILL ALLOW ENHANCED PRODUCTION. IT IMPROVES PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF CHEMICALS FOR DATA FUNDING FOR SYSTEM OPERATORS AND DISCLOSE CHEMICALS USED BY ANY STATE AND THE AMENDMENT STRENGTHENS OIL AND GAS BY PROVIDING FUNDING FOR REVIEWS FOR STATE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS LIKE STRONGER. THAT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEWS OF STATE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRIES OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND REGULATORY ADMINISTRATIONS USING A TEAM OF THREE REGULATORS, THREE ENVIRONMENTAL N.G.O.'S AND THREE INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:59:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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  • 07:00:03 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MONTANA, A…

    IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MONTANA, A VALUED MEMBER. HIS AMENDMENT WOULD PROVIDE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO CONTINUE WORK ON THE RISK DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BY TRACKING AND DISSEMINATING INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS PROTECTED, BENEFITS TO WHICH I HOPE ALL SIDES CAN AGREE. I SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND URGE MEMBERS TO DO THE SAME. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:00:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA RISE?

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  • 07:00:40 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    IN OPPOSITION TO MY FRIEND'S AMENDMENT. SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING THIS…

    IN OPPOSITION TO MY FRIEND'S AMENDMENT. SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING THIS BILL, WE HAVE HEARD TIME AND AN AGAIN AND MUST MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS ON WHAT WE CHOOSE TO FUND. MY COLLEAGUE MADE A POINT THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE FUNDING ACTIVITIES WHERE AN INDUSTRY CAN AND SHOULD BE. THIS PROGRAM THIS PROGRAM -- WE CAN'T ARGUE ABOUT THE MERIT OF THIS, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT SUBSIDIES, PARTICULARLY TO A PROFITABLE INDUSTRY, OIL AND GAS, WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT. COMPILING AND MAINTAINING A DATABASE ON OIL AND GAS WELLS AT THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, I DO NOT BELIEVE IS THE PROPER ROLE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IS LIKELY TO BE DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE IN THE INDUSTRY. FURTHER, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT STATES AND PRIVATE INDUSTRY HAVE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS FOSTERING THE RECOVERY OF OIL AND NATURAL GAS FROM FAR GINAL WELLS WITH SIMILAR INITIATIVES. THE STATE AND INDUSTRY INITIATIVES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DRIVEN BY AN ECONOMIC NEED TO HAVE PERTINENT INFORMATION ON HAND. GIVEN THAT THAT PROCESS IS WORKING ON A LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD RUSH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT. IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR SMALLER GOVERNMENT WHEREVER POSSIBLE AND THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT TO DO IT RIGHT. THE GENTLEMAN MAKES THE ASSERTION THAT THE SYSTEM HAS RESULTED IN PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF ALL CHEMICALS AND HYDRAULIC FRACTURING FLUIDS. TEXAS IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST IF NOT THE STRONGEST LAWS AND IT IS STILL FAR FROM A REQUIREMENT TO DISCLOSE ALL, I QUOTE, CHEMICALS AND THE DATA PACE IN QUESTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKER ON WYOMING'S LEGISLATION ON DISCLOSURE. I DO RELUCTANTLY STRONGLY OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 07:02:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MONTANA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES VISIT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. PURSUANT TO -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

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  • 07:03:23 PM

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO ENGAGE IN A PREEF COLLOQUY WITH MY COLLEAGUE IN…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO ENGAGE IN A PREEF COLLOQUY WITH MY COLLEAGUE IN NEW JERSEY, MR. FRELINGHUYSEN, ABOUT THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN BUILDINGS AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING FOR THE ENERGY ADMINISTRATION.

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  • 07:03:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    --

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    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    I THANK THE CHAIR. THE E.I.A. SEEKS TO REDUCE ENERGY COSTS. --

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    MRS. BIGGERT

    I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR THE COMMERCIAL ENERGY BUILDINGS SURVEY, KNOWN…

    I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR THE COMMERCIAL ENERGY BUILDINGS SURVEY, KNOWN AS CBES. THEY HAD A REQUEST FOR $5 MILLION FOR E.I.A. IN 2012, ROUGHLY $9 MILLION ABOVE THE F.Y. 2011 LEVELS. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY INCLUDED LANGUAGE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY CONSIDER THE PROGRAM A PRIORITY FOR E.I.A.?

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  • 07:04:35 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    THE GENTLELADY YIELD?

  • 07:04:41 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IT'S AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE FOR THE BUILDING SECTOR. IT PROVIDES AN…

    IT'S AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE FOR THE BUILDING SECTOR. IT PROVIDES AN INCREASE FOR THE ENERGY INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION AND WITH FUNDING AVAILABLE, I EXPECT THAT AN UPDATE OF THE CONSUMER BUILDING SURVEY WILL BE FUNDED.

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  • 07:04:58 PM

    MRS. BIGGERT

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I SERVE AS CO-CHAIR OF THE HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDING…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I SERVE AS CO-CHAIR OF THE HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDING CAUCUS WITH REPRESENTATIVE CARNAHAN OF MISSOURI. MANY MEMBERS OF THE HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDING COALITION HAVE COME TO US TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN ABOUT AN UPDATED PROGRAM SINCE THE DATA IS NEARLY A DECADE OLD. CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST ONE WAS PUBLISHED IN 2003. THE UPDATED DATA IS NOT ONLY VALUABLE TO BIDDING OWNERS LOOKING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ALSO NECESSARY TO INFORM THE ANNUAL ENERGY OUTLOOK THAT WE IN CONGRESS RELY ON. FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUILDING RENOVATION SECTOR RELIES OVERWHELMINGLY ON AMERICAN-MADE GOODS FOR ITS WORK AND OVER 90% OF THE MANUFACTURING OF FURNACES, INSULATION AND DUCT WORK IS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. SO BY MAKING THIS DATA AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THROUGH SBES, WE ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING AMERICAN JOBS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:05:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI RISE?

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  • 07:06:09 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN STRIKES THE LAST WORD AND IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    WORD AND IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    WANT TO ENGAGE IN A COLLOQUY WITH MR. VISCLOSKY.

  • 07:06:40 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. THE DATA IS ESSENTIAL NOT JUST FOR…

    WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. THE DATA IS ESSENTIAL NOT JUST FOR PROGRAMS TO REDUCE ENERGY USE LIKE ENERGY STAR FOR BUILDINGS AND D.O.E.'S BUILDING TECHNOLOGIES PROGRAM, BUT FOR PRIVATE SECTOR EFFORTS LIKE THE U.S. GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL'S LEAD RATING SYSTEM AS WELL.

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  • 07:07:10 PM

    MR. CARNAHAN

    AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE REPORT LANGUAGE STATES THAT THE ENERGY…

    AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE REPORT LANGUAGE STATES THAT THE ENERGY DEPARTMENT IS DIRECTED TO FUND ALL DATA COLLECTION, RELEASES AND REPORTS ON OIL, NATURAL GAS, ELECTRICITY, RENEWABLES AND COAL. ALL PREVIOUSLY FUNDED INTERNATIONAL ENERGY STATISTICS AND ALL ONGOING ENERGY ANALYSIS EFFORTS BEFORE ALLOCATING FUNDING TO THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION SURVEYS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS LANGUAGE EFFECTIVELY EXCLUDES FUNDING FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ENERGY CONSUMPTION SURVEY, ALSO KNOWN AS CBECS. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW TOOLS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVES LOOK AT HOW BUILDINGS AS DIVERSE AS SUPERMARKETS AND SENIOR CENTERS USE ENERGY. I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER, I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK MY CO-CHAIR OF THE HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDING CAUCUS, MRS. BIGGERT, FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS ISSUE. THIS IN FACT, THERE WAS A -- THERE IS BROAD PRIVATE SECTOR SUPPORT FOR CONTINUING CBECS AND AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD TWO LETTERS SUBMITTED BY PRIVATE STAKE HOLDERS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE IN SUPPORT OF CBECS AND I JUST WANT TO READ ONE SENTENCE FROM A LETTER THAT I'LL BE SUBMITTING FOR THE RECORD THAT SAYS, IF FUNDING IS NOT PROVIDED, WORK ON THE 2011 CBECS DATA WILL LIKELY NOT CONTINUE AND THE GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY WILL BE FORCED TO RELY ON DATA THAT'S NEARLY A DECADE OLD, RESULTING IN POTENTIAL MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE BUILDING EFFICIENCY. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:08:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST MUST BE MADE IN THE FULL HOUSE. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS…

    GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST MUST BE MADE IN THE FULL HOUSE. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA SEEK RECOGNITION? THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:09:13 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 25 OFFERED BY MR. MCKINLEY OF WEST VIRGINIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MCKINLEY

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO COMMEND CHAIRMAN FRELINGHUYSEN AND THE COMMUNITY…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO COMMEND CHAIRMAN FRELINGHUYSEN AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN DEVELOPING LEGISLATION INTENDED TO STREAMLINE PROCESSES AND INCREASE EFFICIENCY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. THROUGHOUT THIS LEGISLATION, WE CAN SEE INTELLIGENT SAVINGS THAT WILL RESULT IN LESS SPENDING AND MORE EFFICIENT USE OF TAX DOLLARS. HOWEVER, I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS LEGISLATION AS WRITTEN AND REPORTED WILL HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF DESTROYING THE NATIONAL ENERGY TECHNOLOGY LABORATORIES' ABILITY TO MANAGE APPROXIMATELY $19 BILLION IN CONTRACTS AND CONDUCT THE NECESSARY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TO ADVANCE SAFE, NATURAL GAS DRILLING, CLEAN COAL TECHNOLOGIES, AND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. I SHARED MY CONCERNS WITH CHAIRMAN FRELINGHUYSEN AND THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. VISCLOSKY IN A BIPARTISAN LETTER SIGNED BY MY COLLEAGUE MIKE DOYLE, TIMUR FI AND MARK KRIS. -- MARK CHRIS. WE CONTINUE TO RELY ON OTHER COUNTRIES FOR -- COAL FOR OUR ELECTRICITY. IT IS USED TO CREATE ELECTRICITY IN 48 OF THE 50 STATES. HOWEVER, WITHOUT ANY RESEARCH INTO CLEAN COAL TECHNOLOGY, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUOBS ACROSS AMERICA ARE -- OF JOBS ACROSS AMERICA ARE IN JEOPARDY. THE FOSSIL FUEL R&D PROGRAM BEING CUT IN THIS BILL IS UNIQUE AMONG D.O.E. PROGRAM BECAUSE THE PROGRAM DIRECTION ACCOUNT INCLUDES FUNDING FOR THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE NATIONAL ENERGY TECHNOLOGY LAB. ALONG WITH SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR ALL THE FEDERAL RESEARCHERS WHO WORK THERE. IT'S THE ONLY GOVERNMENT-OWNED, GOVERNMENT OPERATED NATIONAL LABORATORY. O.M.B. REQUIRES THAT ALL FEDERAL COSTS BE INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM DIRECTION ACCOUNT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD RESTORE THE FUNDING CUT TO THE FOSSIL ENERGY RESEARCH AND PROGRAMS -- PROGRAM DIRECTION ACCOUNT IN AN EFFORT TO RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING WORK BEING DONE BY NHEL AND THE UNIQUE MANNER IN WHICH THE LABORATORY IS FUNDED AND MAINTAINED. THESE PROJECTS ARE IN EVERY STATE AND ALMOST EVERY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY. VIRTUALLY EVERY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS LABORATORY BEING FUNDED SUFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK -- YIELD BACK MY TIME. -- TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY. MR.

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  • 07:12:30 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I THANK YOU. YOUR AMENDMENT WOULD SHIFT $35 MILLION INTO THE PROGRAM FOR…

    I THANK YOU. YOUR AMENDMENT WOULD SHIFT $35 MILLION INTO THE PROGRAM FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT ROLE THE FOSSIL ENERGY RESEARCH PLAYS IN SECURING OUR ENERGY FUTURE ESPECIALLY WHEN 70% OF OUR ENERGY COMES FROM FOSSIL SOURCES. I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE YOUR STRONG ADVOCACY AS A GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA AND THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF FOSSIL FUELS THAT YOUR STATE PLAYS, PROVIDING SUCH FOR THE NATION. I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE CRITICAL ROLE OF SCIENTISTS AND THEIR RESEARCH AT OUR NATIONAL LABORATORIES INCLUDING THE ONE IN YOUR STATE, PLAY IN KEEPING OUR NATION IN THE LEAD IN FOSSIL TECHNOLOGIES. OUR BILL DEMONSTRATES THIS SUPPORT BY FUNDING FOSSIL ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AT $32 MILLION ABOVE FISCAL YEAR TO 2011 LEVEL. THE BILL WILL ALSO, HOWEVER, INCREASE THE TRANSPARENCY OF THESE PROGRAMS OUT OF THE PROGRAM DIRECTION AND INTO RESEARCH PROGRAMS. WITH THAT CHANGE INCLUDED, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO FUND LABORATORY PERSONNEL DOING VALUABLE WORK AT THE NATIONAL LABS. HOWEVER, RECOGNIZING MY COLLEAGUE'S CONCERNS, I WOULD BE HAPPY, WE WOULD BE HAPPY, TO WORK WITH THE GENTLEMAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD -- TOWARD CONFERENCE TO ENSURE THAT SALARIES ARE FULLY FUNDED WHILE INCREASING THE TRANSPARENT SOIF ONGOING RESEARCH. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:14:04 PM

    MR. MCKINLEY

    THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO…

    THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:14:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 07:14:27 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE?

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    AT THE DESK, MR. SPEAKER. NUMBER 39.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SEND HIS AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. CHOIPT CLERK WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SEND HIS AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. CHOIPT CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:15:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASE BY $10 MILLION. PAGE 33, LINE 20,…

    AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASE BY $10 MILLION. PAGE 33, LINE 20, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT REDUCE BY $10 MILLION.

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  • 07:16:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MATHESON

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IN THE REPORT LANGUAGE FROM THE COMMITTEE REPORT…

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IN THE REPORT LANGUAGE FROM THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR THIS BILL THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE INCLUDED SOME LANGUAGE TALKING ABOUT CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF REMEDIATION ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE AROUND THE COUNTRY AT VARIOUS DEPARTMENT-SPONSORED FACILITIES AND SMALL SITES UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THIS IS IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP FOR NONDEFENSE SITES. I SHARE THAT CONCERN. AND THE COMMITTEE REPORT LANGUAGE TALKS ABOUT HAVING THE DEPARTMENT NOT LATER THAN NOVEMBER 15 OF 2011 GIVING A DETAILED PLAN ON REMEDIATING THESE SMALL SITES. HERE'S THE ISSUE. WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOME SMALLER SITES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MANAGEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, WE'RE SPENDING MONEY EACH YEAR TO MAINTAIN THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, BUT IF YOU DON'T SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THE CLEANUP, YOU JUST EXTEND THE LIFE CYCLE OF THIS PROJECT OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. I THINK IF WE FOCUS ON THESE PROJECTS AND GET THEM DONE BY INVESTING THE FUNDS TO CLEAN THEM UP QUICKLY, IT'S ACTUALLY FROM A LIFE STRIKELE BASIS BETTER OFF FOR -- CYCLE BASIS BETTER OFF FOR TAXPAYERS. THIS IS A TOUGH BILL TO FIND PAY FOR. I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT WE LOOKED AT REDUCE SPENDING IN THIS BILL, BUT MY SUGGESTION IS A MODEST INCREASE IN THE NONDEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP ACCOUNT OF $10 MILLION WHICH WILL BRING THE FUNDING LEVEL TO WHAT IT WAS IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, THAT IS PAID FOR BY REDUCING BY $10 MILLION THE NATIONAL NUCLEAR SAFETIED A -- NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION'S WEAPONS SECURITY ACCOUNT WHICH HAD BEEN PLUSED UP $185 MILLION IN THIS BILL. THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE SITES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE SMALLER, THERE ARE SOME SITES THAT ARE LARGER. I'M NOT DIRECTING WHERE THIS MONEY GOES, I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT MONEY INTO THE NONDEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP ACCOUNT HOPING THAT SINCE THE COMMITTEE INDICATED IN ITS REPORT LANGUAGE IT WANTS THE SMALLER SITES TO MOVE ON A FASTER BASIS, THAT THIS FNDING COULD HELP ASSIST IN THAT -- FUNDING COULD HELP ASSIST IN THAT EFFORT. IN MY OPINION THIS IS IN THE TAXPAYER INTEREST TO DO THIS. THERE ARE SITES AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE HAPPENS TO BE ONE IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN UTAH, IT'S A FACILITY WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE -- DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS BEEN CLEANING UP A RADIOACTIVE PILE THAT'S ON THE BANKS OF THE COLORADO RIVER, IT'S A PILE WHERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT INDICATED THAT IN THE LONG-TERM IT IS A NEAR CERTAINTY THAT THIS PILE WOULD BE FLOODED AND FLUSHED DOWN THE RIVER. THERE ARE ABOUT 25 MILLION USERS OF THIS WATERS DOWNSTREAM AND THERE'S BEEN ONGOING BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR YEARS ABOUT THE CLEANUP OF THIS SITE. AND THIS IS JUST ONE AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ALSO ARE MERITORIOUS AS WELL. AGAIN, MY AMENDMENT CANNOT DIRECT THIS ONE PARTICULAR SITE OR NOT BUT I'M SUGGESTING THAT INCREASING FUNDING BY $10 MILLION TO BRING THE NONDEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP ACCOUNT UP TO LAST YEAR'S LEVEL IS A GOOD THING TO DO, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT AND I'LL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:19:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I YIELD BACK, YES.

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    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

  • 07:19:27 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH'S AMENDMENT…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH'S AMENDMENT BUT I SALUTE HIS ADVOCACY AND PASSION FOR HIS PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO FUNNEL OFF DEFENSE FUNDING THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE MODERNIZATION OF OUR NUCLEAR INFRASTRUCTURE. WITH NEARLY $500 MILLION -- WITH A NEARLY $500 MILLION REDUCTION TO THE REQUEST FOR WEAPON ACTIVITIES THIS BILL ALREADY TAKES OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND SAVINGS WITH THE ACCOUNT. RIGHT NOW THIS BILL PROVIDES FOR OUR DEFENSE REQUIREMENTS AND IS WELL BALANCED. FURTHER REDUCTIONS WOULD UNACCEPTABLY IMPACT THE ABILITY TO MEET THE GOALS OF MODERNIZATION AND TO SUPPORT THE NUCLEAR SECURITY STRATEGY SET FORTH IN THE 2010 NUCLEAR POSTURE REVIEW. THIS BILL TAKES A CONSISTENT APPROACH TO FUNDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, PROVIDING A SLIGHTLY LOWER BUT SUSTAINABLE AND STABLE FUNDING STREAM TO CONTINUE WORK AT ALL THE CLEANUP SITES. IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO INCREASE THIS ACCOUNT ABOVE WHAT WAS REQUESTED FOR THESE ACTIVITIES, PARTICULARLY AT THE EXPENSE OF IMPORTANT NATIONAL DEFENSE PROGRAMS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO MAKE DEFENSE A PRIORITY AND DEVOTE -- AND TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:20:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. MR.

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  • 07:21:04 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE PLEASE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF LULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF LULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    GENTLEMAN AND WANTED TO ASK MY FRIEND FROM NEW JERSEY TO ENGAGE IN A…

    GENTLEMAN AND WANTED TO ASK MY FRIEND FROM NEW JERSEY TO ENGAGE IN A COLLOQUY.

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  • 07:21:29 PM

    MR. KINGSTON

    OF IT IS TO TALK ABOUT A NUCLEAR PROTOTYPE. AS YOU KNOW AND AS THE RANKING…

    OF IT IS TO TALK ABOUT A NUCLEAR PROTOTYPE. AS YOU KNOW AND AS THE RANKING MEMBER KNOWS AND THE FULL COMMITTEE RANKING MEMBER, MR. DICKS, KNOWS THAT THE OHIO CLASS NUCLEAR SUBMARINE IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR COUNTRY'S NATIONAL SECURITY AND IS 1/3 OF OUR NUCLEAR DETERRENT, ALONG WITH BOMBERS AND NUCLEAR MISSILES. THESE CRITICAL SYSTEMS ARE AGING AND ARE CLOSE TO THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE. AS PART OF THE OHIO REPLACEMENT OR SSBNX PROGRAM, WE ARE LOOKING AS EXPANDING THE NUCLEAR CORE SO THAT THE FUTURE NUCLEAR BALLISTIC SUBMARINES CAN HAVE A CORE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 40 YEARS OVER 20 YEARS. AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 07:22:22 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, THANK YOU. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, THANK YOU. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR ENGAMINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CALM ATTENTION TO THE STRONG SUPPORT -- CALL ATTENTION TO THE STRONG SUPPORT THIS BILL PROVIDES FOR THE OFFICE OF NUCLEAR REACTORS WHICH REFLECTS BIPARTISAN PRIORITIES. MR.

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  • 07:22:37 PM

    MR. KINGSTON

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN -- IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN…

    I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN -- IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN WITH MY FRIENDS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM AND IN DOING SO WE WILL BE PROVIDING 100% CLARIFICATION TO THIS BODY AND ALL AGENCIES. THE SSBNX DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WITHIN NAVAL REACTORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ALONG WITH ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE OHIO REPLACEMENT PROGRAM ARE INDEED FULLY FUNDED TO THEIR REQUIREMENT WITHIN THIS LEGISLATION. THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR A SPECIFIED PURPOSE. THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NUCLEAR REACTOR PROTOTYPE AND ALL ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS.

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  • 07:24:06 PM

    MR. KINGSTON

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR THAT AND JUST TO BE ABUNDANTLY SURE, IN ORDER TO…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR THAT AND JUST TO BE ABUNDANTLY SURE, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NAVAL REACTORS, IS IT TRUE THAT THE PROTOTYPE DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS NEW AND COMPLICATED REACTOR SYSTEM IS FULLY FUNDED TO THE REQUIRED REQUEST?

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  • 07:24:26 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD.

  • 07:24:29 PM

    MR. KINGSTON

    WILL YIELD.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    THE LEVEL FOR NAVAL REACTORS INCLUDES $121.3 MILLION TO DEVELOP A NEW…

    THE LEVEL FOR NAVAL REACTORS INCLUDES $121.3 MILLION TO DEVELOP A NEW REACTOR TO DESIGN FOR THE OHIO REPLACEMENT AND $99.5 MILLION TO REFUEL A PROTOTYPE REACTOR IN UPSTATE NEW YORK THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OHIO REPLACEMENT.

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  • 07:24:48 PM

    MR. KINGSTON

    RELATED TO THIS, THEY ARE ALLOCATED TO THE REQUIRED AMOUNT AND I THANK THE…

    RELATED TO THIS, THEY ARE ALLOCATED TO THE REQUIRED AMOUNT AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR MR. CULBERSON'S SUPPORT AND MR. DICKS' SUPPORT. AND MR. VISCLOSKY'S SUPPORT AS WELL. AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU.

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  • 07:25:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. REID OF NEW YORK, PAGE 27, LINE 10, AFTER THE DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. REID OF NEW YORK, PAGE 27, LINE 10, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT INCREASE BY $41 MILLION. PAGE 32, LINE 4, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE BY $21 MILLION. PAGE 35, LINE 15, AFTER THE SECOND DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE BY $20 MILLION.

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  • 07:25:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. REED

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF AN AMENDMENT THAT I…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF AN AMENDMENT THAT I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND THAT WHICH MR. HIGGINS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HAS JOINED ME ON THIS AMENDMENT BUT ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT IS WISE, IT IS AN APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT AND THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH MY PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TAKING $41 MILLION IN FUNDING TO NONDEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, TO TAKE THAT MONEY FROM MULTIPLE ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNTS AND UTILIZE THE MONEY FOR IN THE FIELD CLEANUP ACTIVITY FOR SITES SUCH AS THAT WHICH EXIST IN MY DISTRICT, KNOWN AS THE WEST VALLEY NUCLEAR DEMONSTRATION PROJECT IN WESTERN NEW YORK. MY HOPE IS THAT BY DOING THIS AMENDMENT WE WILL STOP MONEY FROM BEING FUNNELED MORE INTO THE D.C. BUREAUCRACY BUT RATHER BE FUNNELED AND PUT OUT INTO THE FIELD AND INTO THE NUCLEAR WASTE SITES SO THAT THE SITES CAN BE REMEDIATED ONCE AND FOR ALL. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ESTIMATES THAT BY MAKING THE INVESTMENT NOW IN NUCLEAR SITE REMEDIATION WE WILL SAVE OUR NATION HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE COMING DECADES. IF PROPERLY FUNDED THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY CAN COMPLETE PHASE ONE OF THE WEST VALLEY PROJECT IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BY 2020. THIS ALONE IS ESTIMATED TO SAVE TAXPAYERS $120 MILLION. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS I WOULD ASK BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO JOIN US IN OUR AMENDMENT AND SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, ALLOCATING ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS -- DOLLARS THAT ARE TARGETED TO GO TO ENHANCED BUREAUCRACY IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND HAVE THOSE DOLLARS DEPLOYED INTO OUR DISTRICTS THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR NUCLEAR WASTE CLEANUP REMEDIATION PROJECTS UNDER THIS LINE. SO THAT THOSE NUCLEAR WASTE SITES ARE CLEANED UP ONCE AND FOR ALL AND WE CAN GET A BIGGER BANG FOR THE BUCK IN THESE NUCLEAR WASTE SITES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. FOR THAT I WOULD ASK THAT BOTH PARTIES AND BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE SUPPORT OUR AMENDMENT AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:27:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:30:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:30:59 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BUT I RECOGNIZE THE STRONG ADVOCACY OF THE…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BUT I RECOGNIZE THE STRONG ADVOCACY OF THE GENTLEMEN WHO JUST SPOKE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM BUFFALO AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CORNING. OUR BILL PROVIDES $9 MILLION FOR NONDEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, ONLY $6 MILLION BELOW THE REQUEST. THE TOTAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ACCOUNT HAVE COME DOWN AS CLEANUP MILESTONES HAVE BEEN ACCELERATED AHEAD OF SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF THE LARGE INFUSION OF FUNDING FROM THE RECOVERY ACT. THIS AMENDMENT GOES BEYOND THE BASE FUNDING NEEDS AND ATTEMPTS TO SUSTAIN THE HIGHER RATE OF CLEANUP UNDER THE RECOVERY ACT AND UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. WE KNOW THAT THE LEVELS OF SPENDING IN THE RECOVERY ACT CANNOT BE SUSTAINED. WE MUST TRANSITION THESE SITES TO A LOWER, STABLE, MORE SUSTAINABLE LEVEL AS THE RECOVERY ACT WORK IS COMPLETED AND THOSE DOLLARS ARE LEFT. FURTHER, THIS SEEKS TO DECREASE FUNDING FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY ACTIVITIES. THIS BILL PROVIDES STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE NUCLEAR SECURITY ACTIVITIES AT THE NNFA. IT WILL TAKE A SKILLED AND TALENTED WORK FORCE TO SUCCESSFULLY CARRY OUT THESE CHALLENGING AND VITAL ACTIVITIES. L.A. YEAR'S LOWER LEVEL NEVER ADMINISTRATION ASSUMED THAT NNFA WOULD USE $20 MILLION IN PRIOR YEAR BALANCES TO HELP PAY ITS PERSONNEL COSTS FOR THE QUEER. THESE BALANCES ARE NOW USED UP AN FUNDING MUST RETURN TO THE BASE LEVEL REQUIREMENTS OF $420 MILLION. THIS CUT WOULD RESULT IN LAYOFFS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT JEOPARDIZE NNFA'S ABILITY TO CARRY OUT ITS NUCLEAR SECURITY RESPONSIBILITIES. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME AND VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER.

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  • 07:33:05 PM

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    TO THE AMENDMENT RELUCTANTLY, AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED.

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO OFFERED THE AMENDMENT…

    I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO OFFERED THE AMENDMENT REGARDING CLEANUP IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND ELSEWHERE AND DO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS. WE ARE NOT ADEQUATELY -- THEIR CONCERNS THAT WE ARE NOT ADEQUATELY INVESTING IN CLEANING UP NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES, BUT I ALSO POINT OUT THAT GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS FACED BY THE COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE THE CHAIRMAN HAS MADE WISE CHOICES, THE BEST HE COULD, RELATIVE TO THE SPREADING OF RESOURCES AND JOIN IN HIS OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO SEE THAT ADEQUATE FUNDING AT SOME POINT IS PROVIDED FOR THESE AND OTHER PROGRAMS. I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING.

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  • 07:34:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 07:34:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINS.

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    MR. HASTINGS

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU AND SEE THE CLEANUP IN YOUR STATE…

    IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU AND SEE THE CLEANUP IN YOUR STATE AND THE ENORMITY OF THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. OVERALL WE'VE SEEN SOME CONSIDERABLY POOR PLANNING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S CLEANUP ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING THE VERY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED TERMINATION OF THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN PROJECT. MY COLLEAGUE UNDERSTANDS HIS CONSTITUENTS WELL AND HOW THESE ISSUES IMPACT THE OVERALL PLAN TO CLEAN UP HANNIFORD'S TANK WASTE, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE. I SUPPORT HIS LEADERSHIP, SALUTE HIS LEADERSHIP AS WE MOVE INTO CONFERENCE, I WILL WORK WITH YOU, I PROMISE TO DO THAT, TO ACHIEVE THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANT AN THE TANK FARM SO THESE PROJECTS ARE PROPERLY COORDINATED. I YIELD BACK TO YOU.

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  • 07:37:02 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN, RECLAIMING MY TIME. I APPRECIATE HIS HAVE ITING THE…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN, RECLAIMING MY TIME. I APPRECIATE HIS HAVE ITING THE AREA AND APPRECIATE THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR HAVE ITING THE AREA, AND OF COURSE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, WHO HAS HAD A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST PRIOR TO MY EVEN COMING TO CONGRESS ON THIS ISSUE. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE IN THE PAST. BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS -- A PROJECT THAT HAS LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES, I'M PLEASED WITH THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. I THANK YOU AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 07:37:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    URANIUM ENRICHMENT DECONTAMINATION AND DECOMMISSION FUNDING, $449 MILLION.…

    URANIUM ENRICHMENT DECONTAMINATION AND DECOMMISSION FUNDING, $449 MILLION. SCIENCE, $4,800,000,000.

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  • 07:37:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 65 PINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. HOLT…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 65 PINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. HOLT OF NEW JERSEY.

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  • 07:38:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:38:10 PM

    MR. HOLT

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.

  • 07:42:35 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BUT SALUTE MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BUT SALUTE MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. HOLT, NOT ONLY FOR HIS KEER IN SCIENCE BUT ALSO HIS FOCUS AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS ON SCIENCE AND SCIENCE RESEARCH IN SO MANY AREAS. IN ORDER TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR SCIENCE RESEARCH, HIS AMENDMENT DECREASES FUNDING FOR WEAPONS ACTIVITIES. OUR NATION'S DEFENSE RELIES ON A RELIABLE AND EFFECTIVE NUCLEAR DETEMPT AND THESE CAPABILITIES CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO DETERIORATE. THERE IS NOW A STRONG BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS FOR THE MODERNIZATION OF OUR NUCLEAR STOCKPILE. IT IS A CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY PRIORITY AND MUST BE FUNDED. WITH A REDUCTION OF NEARLY $500 MILLION FROM THE REQUEST, THIS BILL HAS MADE USE OF ALL AVAILABLE SAVINGS. ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS WOULD UNACCEPTABLY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT OUR NATION'S NUCLEAR SECURITY STRATEGY. FURTHER, THE AMENDMENT WOULD USE THESE REDUCTIONS TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR SCIENCE RESEARCH. I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE SCIENCE PROGRAM. HE KNOWS THAT. IT LEADS TO BREAKTHROUGHS AND INNOVATIONS THAT WILL MAKE OUR NATION'S ENERGY SECTOR SELF-SUFFICIENT AND KEEP AMERICA'S -- KEEP AMERICA COMPETITIVE AS THE WORLD LEAD OVER CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE. THIS IS WHY WE WORK SO HARD, THE RANKING AND I, TO SUSTAIN FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM. BUT WITHIN THE REALITIES OF TODAY'S FISCAL CONSTRAINTS, WHICH WE ALL KNOW, WE CANNOT SIMPLY AFFORD TO ADD MORE FUNDING TO SCIENCE RESEARCH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MEANS RISKING CRUCIAL NATIONAL DEFENSE ACTIVITIES. I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:44:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:44:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE HOLT HCH BISHOP AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR…

    TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE HOLT HCH BISHOP AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY OFFICE OF SCIENCE. THIS IS A VITAL INVESTMENT IN THE NATION'S FUTURE. WE HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE ABOUT WHERE TO MAKE CUTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO CUT THINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T AFFORD TO CONTINUE WITH BUT WE DON'T WANT TO CUT THINGS WE CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT.

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  • 07:45:07 PM

    MR. SCHIFF

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION AND RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S…

    I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION AND RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:47:09 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    WHILE I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES IN COMMITTEE AS WELL AS ON FLOOR DEBATE…

    WHILE I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES IN COMMITTEE AS WELL AS ON FLOOR DEBATE THAT I APPLAUD THE CHAIRMAN'S BRINGING FUNDING INTO THE SCIENCE ACCOUNT ALMOST TO WHERE WE WERE IN FISCAL YEAR 2011 AND HAVE DESCRIBED IT AS A NOT INSIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT, ADDING THESE $43 MILLION TO BRING IT INTO PARITY WITH CURRENT YEAR SPENDING IS NOT ASKING TOO MUCH AND AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE INDICATED ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKING AN ECONOMIC INVESTMENT IN KNOWLEDGE AND JOBS THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED IN THE UNITED STATES. IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT WE INDICATE THAT RELATIVE TO THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE, UNDERSTANDING THAT HARNESSING SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL INGENUITY HAS LONG BEEN AT THE CORE OF THE NATION'S PROSPERITY. WE TALK ABOUT THAT NATIONAL PROSPERITY LINKAGE TO SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND CURIOSITY. I ALSO, RELATIVE TO THE CONCERNS THE CHAIRMAN EXPRESSED ABOUT THE WEAPONS ACCOUNT, THINK THAT THAT IMPORTANT PRIORITY WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE SHIFT OF FUNDING CALLED FOR IN THE AMENDMENT AND RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF IT AND WOULD YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:48:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, FOR WHAT PURPOSE DO YOU RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, THE HOLT-BISHOP AMENDMENT WINE CREASE…

    VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, THE HOLT-BISHOP AMENDMENT WINE CREASE THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE BUDGET BY $42.7 MILLION, REDUCING THE NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION'S WEAPONS AC PIFTS PROGRAM BY THE SAME AMOUNT -- ACTIVITIES PROGRAM BY THE SAME AMOUNT, PROTECTING JOBS AND SUPPORTING AMERICAN INNOVATION THROUGH SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY.

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    THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE IS CRUCIAL TO SCIENTIFIC INNOVATION WHICH IS A KEY…

    THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE IS CRUCIAL TO SCIENTIFIC INNOVATION WHICH IS A KEY COMPONENT OF AMERICAN JOB CREATION AND A CORNERSTONE OF OUR NATION'S LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE COME TO THIS FLOOR AND ESPOUSE THE BENEFITS OF INNOVATION ON JOB CREATION? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD FROM BOTH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT AND PAST PRESIDENTS, TALK ABOUT MOVING OUR NATION FORWARD INTO THE 21ST CENTURY WHERE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT WILL FORTIFY OUR NATION'S ECONOMIC GROWTH? THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, INCLUDING OUR NATIONAL LABORATORIES, IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TOOLS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS AT ITS DISPOSAL TO PROMOTE SCIENTIFIC INNOVATION, TO SUPPORT PRIVATE INDUSTRY ADVANCEMENTS, TO FOSTER MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGHS AND TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD AROUND US. I'M PROUD TO REPRESENT BROOK HAVEN NATIONAL LABORATORY, A DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY LAB AND ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN MY DISTRICT. B&L IS ALSO GROUND ZERO FOR MANY OF THE SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES AND INNOVATIONS THAT HAVE EXPANDED OUR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT PHYSICS AND NATURE, MANY OF WHICH HAVE A DIRECT LINK TO DEVELOPING NEW MATERIALS FOR INDUSTRY, MORE EFFECTIVE DRUGS AND BETTER FUEL, THE INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL THAT PRIVATE INDUSTRY THRIVES UPON. MR. CHAIRMAN, EARLIER THIS YEAR THE REPUBLICAN POLICIES EMBODIED WITHIN H.R. 1 WOULD HAVE SLASHED $1.1 BILLION FROM THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE, CHOKING OFF FEDERAL INVESTMENT IN BASIC RESEARCH THAT IS THE KEY TO OUR NATION'S LONG-TERM COMPETITIVENESS. THESE DRACONIAN CUTS WOULD HAVE IMPACTED EACH D.O.E. NATIONAL LAB WITH A 30% CUT TO EVERY SCIENCE FACILITY AND PROGRAM FROM THE F.Y. 2011 REQUEST LEVEL. THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED AS A RESULT OF H.R. 1 IS ESTIMATED TO BE CLOSE TO 10,000 IN THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE. HOW CAN ANY REASONABLE PERSON ARGUE THAT LAYING OFF THOUSANDS OF THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED, HIGHLY SKILLED SCIENTISTS THE WORLD HAS TO OFFER MOVES THIS NATION FORWARD? THE HOLT-BISHOP AMENDMENT WOULD HOLD THE OFFICE SCIENCE SPENDING LEVELS AT 2011 LEVELS. THIS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR THIS NATION TO REMAIN AT THE CUTTING EDGE OF SCIENTIFIC INNOVATION WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS AND WHICH IN TURN IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO WHAT AUTS TO BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THIS CONGRESS, JOB CREATION. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE HOLT-BISHOP AMENDMENT. I ALSO ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO INCLUDE IN THE RECORD A LIST OF THE 2010 FORTUNE 100 COMPANIES WHICH DELINEATE THOSE COMPANIES RELYING UPON OFFICE OF SCIENCE FACILITIES TO DELIVER THEIR PRODUCTS.

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  • 07:51:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE.

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    MR. BISHOP

    YOU. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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    CHAIR, I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN HAS REQUESTED A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,…

    GENTLEMAN HAS REQUESTED A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WE DID.

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    THE CHAIR

    OK. THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 68 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 68 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. ROYCE OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 07:52:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. ROYCE

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DECREASE THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DECREASE THE ALLOCATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SCIENCE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY BUDGET BY $10 MILLION AND LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT $10 MILLION IS USED FOR BY WAY OF EXAMPLE IN THIS DEPARTMENT. THERE'S $10 MILLION FOR APPROPRIATING MONEY TO METHANE HYDRATE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. NOW, I WAS ONCE A CAPITAL PROJECTS MANAGER AND I UNDERSTAND, MEMBERS, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPULSE TO INVEST IN TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A PAYBACK, THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A RETURN BUT TO DO THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET THAT PAYBACK, IT HAS TO BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE WHEN COMPARED AGAINST OTHER COMPETING ALTERNATIVES. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SPEAK TO HERE. THE GOVERNMENT HERE IN THE U.S. HAS ALREADY SPENT $155 MILLION ON RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIALIZATION FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY, FOR METHANE HYDRATE, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. TAXPAYERS DO NOT NEED TO SUBSIDIZE THE GAS HYDRATE INDUSTRY TO FIND EQUIVALENT ALTERNATIVES TO REPLACE OIL. WE ARE AT A $100 A BARREL FOR OIL, THERE IS ALREADY ENOUGH FINANCIAL INCENTIVE IN THE COMMERCIAL MARKET TO RESEARCH METHANE HYDRATE IF IT IN FACT WERE A VIABLE, A VIABLE ENERGY OPTION. NO ONE, I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU, NO ONE HAS TRIED TO EXTRACT METHANE HYDRATES IN A COMMERCIAL WAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT ECONOMICAL. IT IS ONLY FOUND, THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT, IT IS ONLY FOUND IN THE ARCTIC, IT'S ONLY FOUND OFFSHORE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY METHANE GAS COMPRESSED UNDER HIGH PRESSURE CONDITIONS AT GREAT DEPTHS AND BASICALLY THE POINT HERE WOULD BE, YOU'D LIQUEFY IT. THE REALITY, THE REALITY IS THERE ARE REAL HAZARDS OF DEVELOPING GAS HYDRATES. AND BECAUSE IT'S SUCH ANCREDITABLY HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE I CAN'T -- AN INCREDIBLY HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE, I CAN'T FORESEE GAS DRILLING AND PRODUCTION OBLIGATIONS ADOPTING THIS SCENARIO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER FOSSIL FUELS THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED FIRST BEFORE SUCH A TECHNOLOGY WOULD EVER BE DEPLOYED. YOU'VE GOT OIL SHALE, YOU'VE GOT OIL SANDS, TAR SANDS, YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING CONVENTIONAL DEPOSITS OF OIL UNDER CAPPED WELLS. NOW EVERY ONE OF THESE CHALLENGES COULD BE PRODUCED -- A SOLUTION COULD BE FOUND MUCH MORE ECONOMICALLY IN TERMS OF EX TRAGGETTING ENERGY THAN -- EXTRACTING ENERGY THAN YOU WOULD EVER FIND BY PRODUCING ENERGY FROM NATURAL GAS IN THIS PARTICULAR METHODOLOGY. SO, THE GOVERNMENT HAS SPENT 10 YEARS RESEARCHING AND DEVELOPING WAYS TO EXTRACT METHANE HYDRATES. WE ARE STILL AT A VERY PRIMITIVE PHASE. AS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, IT'S VERY HAZARDOUS, IF WE WERE EVER TO DEPLOY SUCH A TECHNOLOGY. THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ALTERNATIVES WHICH WE CERTAINLY WOULD GO THROUGH FIRST BEFORE WE EVER GOT TO THIS, SO IT IS TIME TO ELIMINATE THE FUNDING THAT CAN BE APPROPRIATED TOWARD METHANE HYDRATE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND USE THAT MORE PRODUCTIVELY AND LET ME MAKE ONE OTHER OBSERVATION ABOUT THIS. WE ARE IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE WE'RE BORROWING 40 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND. WHEN WE IDENTIFY AN AREA OF THE BUDGET WHERE WE CAN MAKE THESE TYPES OF SAVINGS, WE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THIS TYPE OF BORROWING, THIS SHEER AMOUNT OF BORROWING HAS AN IMPACT NOT ONLY ON JOB CREATION, ON ECONOMIC GROWTH, BUT ALSO BASICALLY ON THE LONG-TERM SOLVENCY OF THE GOVERNMENT. IF WE'RE RUNNING UP DEBT AT THESE LEVELS AND WE FIND AREAS IN THE BUDGET WHERE TO SLICE OFF THESE SUMS WE CAN BRING DOWN THAT DEFICIT, THE IMPACT ON THE MARKET IS SUCH THAT THE MARKET SEES US RATCHETING DOWN EXPENDITURES TO COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ECONOMIC REALITY AND AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT WE AVOID SOME OF THE ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT COME WITH THE OVERBORROWING. AS I INDICATED, 40 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR. THE OVERBORROWING THAT IS CREATING THE KIND OF UNCERTAINTY IN THIS ECONOMY TODAY. IN WHICH EMPLOYERS ARE RELUCTANT TO GO OUT AND HIRE, IN WHICH THE IMPACTS ARE NOT JUST FELT IN THE JOBLESS RATES THAT WE JUST SAW CLIMB UP HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT ARE ALSO FELT IN THE WAY IN WHICH WE ARE PERCEIVED INTERNATIONALLY IN TERMS OF OUR CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH OUR DEBT. NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE SOME COMMONSENSE DECISIONS HERE AND HERE'S $10 MILLION TO BE SAVED. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:58:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, BUT I…

    I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, BUT I DO RECOGNIZE AND AGREE WITH HIS VIEW IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, BUT NOT THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH HE RISES. MY COLLEAGUE'S AMENDMENT WOULD ELIMINATE METHANE HYDRATE RESEARCH AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM THAT WOULD NOT BE OTHERWISE FUNDED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND HAS A POTENTIAL TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO OUR NATION'S ENERGY NEEDS. VAS QUANTITIES OF METHANE GAS ARE STUCK IN FROZEN DEPOSITS DEEP AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN AND IN THE ARCTIC PERMA FROST. SOME OF THESE DEPOSITS MAY EVAPORATE OVER TIME AND ESCAPE INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THESE RESOURCES RATHER THAN LETTING THE METHANE FLOAT AWAY INTO AIR, WE COULD TAP A VAST NEW NATURAL GAS RESOURCE AND PREVENT LARGE QUANTITIES OF METHANE FROM ENTERING THE ATMOSPHERE. THE RESEARCH FOR THIS IS TOO RISKY FOR INDUSTRY TO DO. THE SCIENCE IS TOO DIFFICULT FOR THERE TO BE AN ECONOMIC RETURN. THAT IS THE PROPER ROLE OF GOVERNMENT RESEARCH, THAT THE PRIVATE CANNOT DO SUBSTANTIALLY TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN IMPORTS WHILE INVENTING NEW SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY THAT PUTS AMERICA IN THE LEAD. I THEREFORE RESPECTFULLY RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND URGE OTHER MEMBERS TO DO SO AS WELL. I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD.

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    I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING AND WOULD JOIN HIM IN HIS OPPOSITION TO…

    I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING AND WOULD JOIN HIM IN HIS OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I WOULD MAKE A GENERAL OBSERVATION.

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  • 07:59:57 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT WOULD CUT $10 MILLION FROM THE OFFICE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT WOULD CUT $10 MILLION FROM THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A $4 BILLION BUDGET YOUR FIRST IMPRESSION MIGHT BE IT IS A LITTLE -- IT IS OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE AS FAR AS THE OVERALL SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 2010 THE ACCOUNT WAS FOR $4,904,000,000. IN FISCAL YEAR 2011 IT WAS REDUCED TO $4,842,000,000. FOR 2012 IT'S REDUCED ANOTHER $43 MILLION. THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT WOULD ESSENTIALLY INCREASE THAT REDUCTION BY ALMOST 25% FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR AND I DO THINK IT IS TIME TO SAY NO AND LET US APPLY OURSELVES TO SERIOUS SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. I OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING. .

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  • 08:00:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM JEA.

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    MR. BROUN

    WAS LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUE. I DID A TOWN HALL MEETING IN THOMPSON,…

    WAS LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUE. I DID A TOWN HALL MEETING IN THOMPSON, GEORGIA, JUST RECENTLY AND A LADY SAID $1 BILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY. WE TALK ABOUT THAT AS IF IT ISN'T A LOTS OF MONEY. WE CANNOT CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD OF BORROWING 40 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDS. IT HAS CREATED UNCERTAINTY IN THE ECONOMIC WORLD AND IT -- THIS DEBT IS CRUSHING TO US. CUTTING $10 MILLION FOR A PROJECT, IT MIGHT BE -- I'M A PHYSICIAN, I HAVE A SCIENCE BACK GROUND AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO RESEARCH AND INTERESTING THINGS TO DO, BUT JUST LIKE A BUSINESS WHEN IT GETS OVEREXTENDED, WHAT DOES IT DO? IT LOWERS THE BORROWING LIMIT AND TRIES TO WORK OUT THE DEBT. THEN IT STARTS LOOKING AT EVERY EXPENSE IT HAS, EVERY CORNER OF THEIR EXPENSES AND TRIES TO CUT EXPENSES. BESIDES THAT, THEY START LOOKING AT REVENUE. OUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES WANT TO RAISE TAXES AND THAT IS A TAX THAT WILL DRIVE AWAY JOBS. I HAVE BUSINESSES THAT TELL ME THAT THE TAX BURDEN, TODAY IS SO HIGH THAT THEY AREN'T HIRING NEW PEOPLE. AND INCREASEING TAXES ON BUSINESSES IS GOING TO DRIVE AWAY JOBS FROM THIS COUNTRY. SO CUTTING $10 MILLION MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, BUT I'M GO BEING GO TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD TO MR. ROYCE.

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  • 08:03:15 PM

    MR. ROYCE

    TAKE A MINUTE HERE TO CLOSE, BUT I'M I'M FOR RESEARCH AND SCIENCE AND…

    TAKE A MINUTE HERE TO CLOSE, BUT I'M I'M FOR RESEARCH AND SCIENCE AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WHERE WE CAN DRIVE PROGRESS IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT AS I SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER, I'M A FORMER CAPITAL PROJECTS MANAGER AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LEARN IS TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS WHICH HAVE SOME ABILITY TO HAVE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. WHEN YOU RUN INTO A PROJECT WHICH IS NOT ONLY ON THE FACE OF IT, UNECONOMICAL, BUT ONE WHICH IS HAZARDOUS AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU SEE A LISTING OF ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH YOU WOULD EXTRACT ENERGY AT MUCH LESS COST THAN YOU WOULD EVER GET TO THIS AND IT WOULD BE THE VERY LAST RESORT ON THE LIST, YOU WOULD NOT KEEP THAT ON YOUR LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS TO ENTERTAIN. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. IF YOU WERE CONSTRICTED IN YOUR BUDGET, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE BORROWING 40% ON YOUR DOLLAR IN YOUR BUDGET, WOULD YOU TAKE THIS OFF THE LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS YOU WOULD COMMIT TO. I WOULD COMMIT TO YOU, IT IS ONLY LOGICAL THAT WE PASS THIS AMENDMENT AND WE INCREMENTALLY AT LEAST MAKE PROGRESS WHERE WE KNOW WHERE WE CAN, REDUCE THE BORROWING AND SEND A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE TO THE MARKET THAT WHEN WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY ARE GOING TO SHAVE BACK OPPORTUNITIES IN AREAS WHERE THERE CANNOT POSSIBLY A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF THE UNITED STATES. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 08:05:11 PM

    MR. BROUN

    MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHOULD DO WHAT I'M DOING. I HAVE SUPPORTED OVER $5…

    MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHOULD DO WHAT I'M DOING. I HAVE SUPPORTED OVER $5 BILLION WORTH OF CUTS IN THE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR. WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY. WE ARE TRYING TO PUT OUR COUNTRY BACK INTO ECONOMIC SUCCESS. IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY SOUND THIS MAY SOUPPED LIKE A MEAGER AMOUNT, $10 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY AND I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND I APPLAUD MR. ROYCE FOR BRINGING IT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:05:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 08:06:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 08:06:25 PM

    MR. BROUN

    AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    43 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA FOR…

    43 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 08:06:43 PM

    MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. CONTAINED WITHIN THIS REDUCTION…

    MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. CONTAINED WITHIN THIS REDUCTION IS SOME OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES OF GOVERNMENT WASTE IMAGINABLE, SUCH AS $47 MILLION FOR UNDETERMINED UPGRADES. $20 MILLION FOR THE ENERGY HUB FOR BATTERIES. $4 MILLION FOR INITIATE EFFICIENT MATERIALS AND $9 FOR COMPETITIVE RESEARCH. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS AND IN THOSE --

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  • 08:07:31 PM

    MR. BROUN

    WHOLE LOT OF OTHER EXAMPLES THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL CUT. THIS IS SOME OF…

    WHOLE LOT OF OTHER EXAMPLES THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL CUT. THIS IS SOME OF THE MANY EXAMPLES OF WASTEFUL PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S OFFICE OF SCIENCE THAT ARE FUNDED BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WILL BE CUT. WHILE I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES HAVE A ROLE IN BASIC SCIENCE RESEARCH, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON EVERY TYPE OF RESEARCH IMAGINABLE OR SUGGESTED HERE IN CONGRESS. MUCH OF THE RESEARCH THAT SHOULD BE DONE SHOULD BE DONE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. TOUGH FISCAL DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AND HAVE TO BE MADE RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE PUT OFF BRINGING THIS TO THE PROCESS FAR TOO LONG. WE NEED TO LOOK FAR AND WIDE TO EVERY SINGLE NOOK, CRANNY AND CORNER OF THE FEDERAL EXPENDITURES AND CUT WASTEFUL SPENDING AND THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL CUT OVER $820 MILLION OF THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS. WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:08:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 08:08:52 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S…

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. THE ENERGY AND WATER BILL MAKES AVAILABLE A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BASIC RESEVERE, SCIENCE AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WORK THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS NO PROFIT INCENTIVE TO INVEST IN. IT CUTS RESEARCH THAT WILL BE THE FOUNDATION OF TECHNOLOGY IN FUTURE DECADES. THIS SCIENCE RESEARCH LEADS TO INNOVATION THAT WILL MAKE OUR NATION'S ENERGY SECTOR SELF- SUFFICIENT AND KEEP AMERICA COMPETITIVE AS THE WORLD LEADER OF SCIENCE INNOVATION. THIS IS WHY WE WORK SO HARD TO SUSTAIN FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM. CUTTING IT WILL NOT ONLY CUT JOBS AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT PUT AT RISK OUR NATION'S COMPETITIVE EDGE AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND SET BACK OUR COUNTRY'S ENERGY FUTURE. I MUST OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:10:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA.

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  • 08:10:11 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    STRONG OPPOSITION. WE SHOULD BE TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF FACILITIES AND…

    STRONG OPPOSITION. WE SHOULD BE TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF FACILITIES AND NOT CUT THIS ACCOUNT TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO USE THE CAPITAL, FIXED ASSETS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS SIGNIFICANT REQUEST IN A REDUCTION IN FUNDING. I WOULD POINT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES IN 2006, PRESIDENT BUSH MADE A COMMITMENT TO DOUBLE THE BUDGET FOR THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE OVER A DECADE. THE COMMITMENT TO DOUBLE FUNDING FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BY PRESIDENT BUSH IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY WAS IN RESPONSE TO STARK WARNINGS FROM A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS THAT WARNED IN THEIR REPORTS KNOWN IN THE REPORT, RISING ABOVE THE ECONOMIC STORM. AND THIS IS AT A TIME WHEN MANY OTHER NATIONS ARE GATHERING STRENGTH. I WOULD CERTAINLY SHARE THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER. HE MENTIONED THE HUBS. I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE HUBS IN MY PAST COMMENTS. HE HAS TALKED ABOUT MANAGEMENT. I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AS FAR AS THEIR PROJECT MANAGEMENT BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT A RELATIVE TERM THAT I BELIEVE THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE LEADERSHIP UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF GETTING A HANDLE ON THE DEPARTMENT, IMPROVING MANAGEMENT SKILLS AND TRYING TO DO THEIR VERY BEST AS FAR AS THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE FUNDS. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND WOULD YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:12:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 08:12:20 PM

    MR. BROUN

    REREQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA…

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEVADA RISE?

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    THE CLERK SUBMIT HIS AMENDMENT TO THE HOUSE?

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    THE CHAIR

    SUBMIT HIS AMENDMENT TO THE HOUSE?

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. HECK OF NEVADA, PAGE 28, AMEND LINE 16 -- PAGE 28, LINE 15,…

    OFFERED BY MR. HECK OF NEVADA, PAGE 28, AMEND LINE 16 -- PAGE 28, LINE 15, NUCLEAR WASTE DISPOSAL, $25 MILLION.

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  • 08:13:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEVADA RISE? MR.

  • 08:13:32 PM

    MR. HECK

    AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MR. HECK OF NEVADA, PAGE 28, AMEND LINE 16 THROUGH 18 TO READ AS…

    BY MR. HECK OF NEVADA, PAGE 28, AMEND LINE 16 THROUGH 18 TO READ AS FOLLOWS. CARRY OUT THE PURPOSE OF THE NUCLEAR WASTE POLICY ACT OF 1982, PUBLIC LAW 97-425, INCLUDING THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY OR FACILITY CONSTRUCTION OR EXPANSION, $25 MILLION TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL EXPENDED AND BE REDIFED FROM THE NUCLEAR WASTE FUND PROVIDING THAT IT SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE STATE OF NEVADA TO CONDUCT APPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES PUSHT PURSUANT TO THAT ACT AS $2 MILLION SHALL BE PROVIDED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. TO CONDUCT APPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES PURSUANT TO THE ACT. THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS SHALL FOLLOW THE CURRENT FORMULA USED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PROVIDED FURTHER THAT $20 MILLION SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN ACCELERATOR TRANSMUTATION TECHNOLOGY.

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  • 08:14:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    A POINT OF ORDER.

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    MR. HECK

    THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID LAWS AND INSTITUTIONS MUST GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE…

    THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID LAWS AND INSTITUTIONS MUST GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE PROGRESS OF THE HUMAN MIND. AS THAT BECOMES MORE DEVELOPED, MORE ENLIGHTENED AS NEW DISCOVERIES ARE MADE, NEW TRUTHS ARE DISCOVERED AND MANNERS AND OPINIONS CHANGE, WITH THE CHANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, INSTITUTIONS MUST ADVANCE ALSO TO KEEP PACE WITH THE TIMES. ALMOST 30 YEARS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE THIS CONGRESS PASSED THE NUCLEAR WASTE ACT. AND SINCE THAT TIME, TECHNOLOGY HAS EVOLVED AND NEW DISCOVERIES MADE AND OPINIONS CHANGED. BUT FOR SOME REASON CONGRESS CLINGS TO TECHNOLOGY TO ADDRESS TODAY'S NUCLEAR WASTE ISSUES. STICKING THE WASTE IN THE GROUND IS A 20TH CENTURY SOLUTION. INSTEAD WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THE USE OF A 21ST CENTURY TECHNOLOGY. MY AMENDMENT REDIRECTS MONEY FROM THE NUCLEAR WASTE FUND AND DESIGNATED FOR YUCCA MOUNTAIN WASTE STORAGE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 21ST CENTURY SOLUTION, A FUEL RECYCLING AND ACCELERATED PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE TOXICITY OF NUCLEAR WASTE AND RETRIEVE ADDITIONAL ENERGY FROM THE MATERIAL THROUGH RADIO CHEMISTRY AND SUBCRITICAL TRANSMUTATION USING ACCELERATOR TECHNOLOGY. PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR NEVADA, THE SITE OF YUCCA MOUNTAIN AND THE STATE WITH THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE COUNTRY, IS THE FACT THAT THIS 21ST CENTURY SOLUTION HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE IN A SINGLE GENERATION NO LESS THAN 10,000 NEW DIRECT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT JOBS UTILIZING EXISTING REGIONAL TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITIES. MY AMENDMENT ALSO PROVIDES CONTINUED OVERSIGHT FUNDING FOR THE STATE OF NEVADA AND THE AFFECTED UNITS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS THEY HAVE RECEIVED RESOURCES TO OVERSEE THE YUCCA PROGRAM SINCE ITS INCEPTION. EVEN DURING THE MOST RECENT CONTINUING RESOLUTION PASSED BY THIS BODY ONLY A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO, FUNDING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY CONTINUED TO PROVIDE THESE RESOURCES. THE U.S. CONTINUES FALLING BEHIND DEVELOPED AND DEVELOPING COUNTRIES IN FULLY FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTING THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, 21ST CENTURY SOLUTIONS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING OUR NATION'S ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL SUPERIORITY. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO EMBRACE THE FUTURE OF NUCLEAR WASTE DISPOSAL AND SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT SO THAT THIS INSTITUTION MAY GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE PROGRESS OF THE HUMAN MIND AND WITH THE CHANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCES THIS INSTITUTION ALSO ADVANCES TO KEEP PACE WITH THE TIMES. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:17:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 08:17:49 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    CHAIRMAN, I CONTINUE TO RESERVE BUT I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT BUT CERTAINLY I RECOGNIZE DR. HECK'S…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT BUT CERTAINLY I RECOGNIZE DR. HECK'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND I KNOW OF WHAT HE SPEAKS AND HOW PROUD HE IS OF THE STATE AND HOW HE'S DETERMINE -- HOW DETERMINED HE IS RELATIVE TO THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN PROJECT AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN TO THAT SITE AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND SEEING THE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THERE, OF COURSE FROM MANY OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES INCLUDING MINE THAT SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT AT SOME POINT OUGHT TO BE REALIZED, SO UNDERSTANDABLY WE APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND WE RESPECT YOUR DEDICATION TO YOUR OWN STATE'S WELFARE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE STATE OF NEVADA, IT ALSO ATTEMPTS TO STIPULATE POLICIES FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, FOR THE BACK END OF THE FUEL CYCLE WHICH SHOULD PROPERLY BE AUTHORIZED BEFORE THEY'RE FUNDED FROM THIS ACCOUNT. THIS COMMITTEE AND MANY MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN THE STRONG POSITION AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION'S YUCCA MOUNTAIN POLICY, THAT'S WELL KNOWN. THE FUTURE OF OUR NUCLEAR WASTE POLICY OF COURSE DESERVES MORE CONSIDERATION THAN THIS AMENDMENT AND PERHAPS THIS EVENING WOULD AFFORD SO I MUST INSIST ON MY POINT OF ORDER.

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  • 08:19:22 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I INSIST ON MY POINT OF ORDER.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN MAKES HIS POINT OF ORDER.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    DOES ANY OTHER MEMBER WISHEN TO HEARD -- TO BE HEARD ON THE POINT OF ORDER?

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    THE CHAIR

    MEMBER WISHEN TO HEARD -- TO BE HEARD ON THE POINT OF ORDER?

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    REQUEST THAT DURING YOUR DELIBERATION OF THE POINT OF ORDER THAT YOU…

    REQUEST THAT DURING YOUR DELIBERATION OF THE POINT OF ORDER THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IN THE SECOND SESSION OF THE 111TH CONGRESS, A SIMILAR PROVISION WAS PASSED BY THIS BODY IN H.R. 5866 AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:20:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PREPARED TO RULE. THE CHAIR FINDS THAT THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES LANGUAGE…

    PREPARED TO RULE. THE CHAIR FINDS THAT THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES LANGUAGE IMPARTING DIRECTION, THE AMENDMENT -- THE AMENDMENT THEREOF CONSTITUTES LEGISLATION IN VIOLATION OF THE RULE AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT IN ORDER. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:20:41 PM

    THE CLERK

    LINE 20, ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY ENERGY, $100 MILLION.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE…

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:21:04 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. SCHIFF OF CALIFORNIA. PAGE 28, LINE 23, AFTER THE DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. SCHIFF OF CALIFORNIA. PAGE 28, LINE 23, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASED BY $79,640,000. SCHIFFSHY I REQUEST CONSENT THAT THE READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE --

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  • 08:21:18 PM

    MR. SCHIFF

    I REQUEST CONSENT THAT THE READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE WAIVED.

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    THE CHAIR

    SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SCHIFF

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS OFFERED BY MY COLLEAGUES…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS OFFERED BY MY COLLEAGUES REPRESENTATIVE BASS AND REPRESENTATIVE FUDGE, IT WOULD SIMPLY RESTORE THE FUNDING TO THE F.Y. 2011 LEVEL OF $1 THE.6 MILLION. ARPA-E WAS CREATED IN 2009 TO BRING THE KIND OF INNOVATIVE THINKING THAT IS WELL KNOWN AT DARPA, THE DEFENSE ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY, TO THE ENERGY SECTOR. THAT INCLUDES THE FOCUS ON HIGH RISK, HIGH REWARD R&D. AND A QUICK-MOVING CULTURE MADE UP OF EXPERTS WHO STAY FOR JUST A FEW YEARS TO ENSURE THAT NEW IDEAS ARE CONTINUALLY BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. UNLIKE SOME GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ITS PHILOSOPHY, MUCH LIKE A TECH STARTUP, IS TO HIRE THE BEST TECHNICAL STAFF AND THEN HIRE THE MANAGERS IN LEADERSHIP THAT CAN GET THE BEST OUT OF THEM. THIS REINVENTION OF THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENT DOES BUSINESS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING. A LEANER APPROACH ADOPTED FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH A MORE AGILE LEADERSHIP AND THE MANDATE TO CUT UNDERPERFORMING RESEARCH AVENUES IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY NEEDS. THE AMERICAN ENERGY INNOVATION COUNCIL MADE UP OF THE C.E.O.'S AND CHAIRMEN OF SOME OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST COMPANIES INCLUDING BILL GATES, NORM AUGUSTINE AND JEFF IMILT, HAVE PROPOSED SPENDING $1 BILLION A YEAR ON ARPA-E, SEEING IT AS A VITAL PART OF OUR ENERGY FUTURE. THIS BILL PROVIDES JUST $100 MILLION. SO THEY ENDORSED A VERSION OF THE OF THIS AMENDMENT IN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A SERIOUS DEFICIT PROBLEM, AS A MEMBER OF THE BLUE DOG COALITION, AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT AS WE MAKE THE DIFFICULT CHOICES TO DO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD EMERGE -- AS WE EMERGE FROM A RECESSION THAT WE SHOULD CUT THE INNOVATIVE RESEARCH THAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT AND HAS FUELED OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR GENERATIONS. ENERGY IS NOT JUST AN ECONOMIC ISSUE, OF COURSE, IT IS ALSO A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. SOME OF ARPA -- ARPA-E'S RESEARCH MAY HELP US CUT DOWN ON FUEL IN AFGHANISTAN AND EVERY BIT OF ENERGY INDEPENDENCE PROTECTS US FROM HIGHER ENERGY PRICES BY INSTABILITY IN THE EAST OR SKYROCKETING DEMAND IN CHINA. MORE THAN 50 UNIVERSITIES, VENTURE CAPITAL FIRMS AND PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES, THE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES, THE ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC AND LAND GRANT UNIVERSITIES HAVE SIGNED A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF INCREASING ARPA-E FUNDING. THEY AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL PROVIDE THE FUNDS THAT ARPA-E NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT WILL CHANGE OUR WORLD, NOT TODAY BUT TOMORROW AND FOR DECADED TO -- DECADES TO COME. THIS AMENDMENT OFFSETS THE INCREASE WITH A CUT TO THE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNT, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOTED, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS A SERIOUS MANAGEMENT PROBLEM, PERHAPS CUTTING THIS ACCOUNT WILL SEND A MESSAGE THAT A NEW APPROACH IS NEEDED. BUT THIS INVESTS IN OUR FUTURE. ENERGY IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE, IT'S AN ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE, IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE, IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE AND TO INVEST IN THIS KIND OF CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH, IN A REINVENTION OF GOVERNMENT KIND OF AGENCY IS EXACTLY THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO. IT'S A PROVEN APPROACH THAT'S BEEN PROVEN IN THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT WITH DARPA, IT CAN WORK HERE IN ENERGY, IT'S OFF TO A VERY PROMISING START DEVELOPING NEW BATTERY TECHNOLOGIES WHERE WE CAN LEAD THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW BATTERIES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR ANOTHER GENERATION. I WAS VERY MOVED BY A SPEECH FROM A C.E.O. OF GOOGLE ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE REVOLUTION IN ENERGY THAT IS JUST BEGINNING WILL DWARF THE REVOLUTION WE HAVE JUST COME THROUGH IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE ENERGY IS A FAR BIGGER SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY. WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT -- LEAD THAT ENERGY REVOLUTION. IF WE DO THE BENEFITS TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ENORMOUS. JUST AS THEY WERE IN TERMS OF THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS REVOLUTION. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS LEADERSHIP TO -- WE DON'T WANT TO CEDE THIS LEADERSHIP TO CHINA OR ANY OTHER NATION BUT IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT WE NEED TO INVEST IN CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ARPA-E DOES. AND I URGE THIS CONGRESS NOT TO CUT BACK ON THE NATION'S FUTURE BUT TO SUPPORT THE INNOVATIVE WORK BEING DONE BY ARPA-E AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:25:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 08:25:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. MY COLLEAGUE'S AMENDMENT WOULD…

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. MY COLLEAGUE'S AMENDMENT WOULD ADD FUNDING TO ARPA-E WHICH RECEIVES $100 MILLION IN OUR BILL. OUR BILL WHICH REDUCES FUNDING TO NEARLY 2006 LEVELS, MAY I REPEAT, 2006 LEVEL, FULFILLS OUR TOP RESPONSIBILITY OF REDUCING GOVERNMENT SPENDING WHILE FOCUSING FUNDING ON A SMALL SET OF TOP PRIORITIES. IN ADDITION TO NATIONAL DEFENSE AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR TOP PRIORITIES INCLUDE RESEARCH TO KEEP AMERICA COMPETITIVE IN SCIENCE, INNOVATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. ARPA-E IS A RELATIVELY NEW PROGRAM. TODAY WE'RE DISCUSSING ONLY ITS SECOND REGULAR FISCAL YEAR APPROPRIATION THAT OFFERS INDUSTRY, UNIVERSITY AND LABORATORY GRANTS FOR HIGH RISK ENERGY INNOVATIONS. ARPA-E IS GETTING POSITIVE EARLY REVIEWS FOR ITS STRONG MANAGEMENT AND ABILITY TO EXECUTE ON ITS MISSION TO DRIVE INNOVATION AND TO KEEP AMERICAN COMPANIES COMPETITIVE. HOWEVER I SHARE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES' CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. ARPA-E MUST NOT INTERVENE WHERE CAPITAL PRIVATE MARKETS ARE ALREADY ACTING AND IT MUST NOT BE REDUNDANT WITH OTHER PROGRAMS AT THE DEPARTMENT. IN FACT, ARPA-E IS STILL A YOUNG PROGRAM AND IT IS PRUDENT TO PROVIDE A LOWER LEVEL OF FUNDING WHETHER IT IS STILL MATURING AS A PROGRAM, DEMONSTRATING ITS ABILITY TO ADDRESS CONGRESSIONAL CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE BILL HAS SO MANY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES COMPETING FOR SCARCE FUNDING. THIS PRUDENT APPROACH IS ESPECIALLY WARRANTED WHEN THE BILL HAS SO MANY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES COMPETING. WHILE I SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THIS NEW PROGRAM, I CANNOT SUPPORT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THIS TIME. FURTHER THIS AMENDMENT MAKES AN UNREALISTIC CUT TO THE DEPARTMENT'S SALARIES AND EXPENSES. WE CANNOT CUT DEPARTMENT OVERSIGHT BY 35% AND EXPECT THE EFFICIENT USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND MORE OVERSIGHT AND MORE MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES. FOR THESE REASONS AND MANY MORE, I MUST OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:27:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM --…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- NEW HAMPSHIRE. FOR WHAT REASON DO YOU RISE?

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    OR TWO AGO I WAS IN THE CLOAKROOM AND I DREW UP THE WEBSITE FOR ARPA-E, IT…

    OR TWO AGO I WAS IN THE CLOAKROOM AND I DREW UP THE WEBSITE FOR ARPA-E, IT SAYS AT THE TOP, QUOTE, DISRUPTIVE AND INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO TECHNOLOGY. WHAT A WONDERFUL THOUGHT, THAT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY CAN BE DISRUPTIVE AND INNOVATIVE AT THE SAME TIME. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE BEEN SPENT ON COAL, ON OIL RESEARCH, ON WIND AND SOLAR, ON BIOMASS AND CONSERVATION, THE FREEDOM CAR. I GOT INVOLVED IN THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY BUSINESS WAY BACK IN THE LATE 1970'S WHEN I WAS A STAFFER, WHEN ERTA WAS CREATED. WE HAD A REAL ENERGY CRISIS IN THIS NATION AS WE DO TODAY. AND YET WE'RE REALLY NOT ANYWHERE NEARLY AS FAR ALONG THIS PATH AS WE NEED TO BE. NOW SOMEONE IN THE CONGRESS, IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, HAD THE GOOD IDEA OF TAKING ALL THESE IDEAS FOR RESEARCH AND CREATING AN ENTITY THAT WOULD BE DEVOTED TO GIVING INDIVIDUALS, INVENTORS, PEOPLE WITH GOOD IDEAS THAT LITTLE SPARK THAT THEY NEED TO TURN THOSE IDEAS INTO REALITY. THE FIRST TIME THEY WENT OUT FOR SOLICITATIONS THEY GOT SOME 3,500 TO 4,000 SHORT SEVEN-PAGE LETTERS DESCRIBING IDEAS. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT LEVERAGES A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH DOLLARS INTO AN ENORMOUS POTENTIAL BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO AMERICA BUT TO THE WORLD . BUT WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES HERE WE HAVE THE OBJECTIVE OF LESSENING OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN ENERGY, OF CLEANING UP OUR ENVIRONMENT, OF CREATING JOBS IN NEW ECONOMIES FOR AMERICANS. AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SPENT LITERALLY BILLIONS ON THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN TRADITIONAL ENERGY RESOURCES, ALL WE ARE ASKING TO DO IN THIS AMENDMENT IS TO GET THE LEVEL UP TO LAST YEAR, $71 BILLION OVER THE SUGGESTED APPROPRIATION OF $100 MILLION. $71 MILLION. . ALL THAT PROVIDES A FRESH LOOK, FLEXIBLE, EFFICIENT WAY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT ARE SERIOUS IN AMERICA. I HOPE THAT THE CONGRESS WILL SUPPORT MR. SCHIFF'S AMENDMENT TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM STRONG, ACTIVE, MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO MORE THAN ANY OTHER RESEARCH PROGRAM. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:31:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA.

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  • 08:31:06 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I HAVE SPOKEN ON A NUMBER OF…

    RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I HAVE SPOKEN ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS ABOUT THE NEED TO INVEST IN RESEARCH IN THIS INSTANCE. THERE IS A SCHOOL OF SCHOOL OF THOUGHT THAT I WOULD NOT ARGUE THAT ARPA-E HAS SHOWN SOME PROMISE AS A NEW ORGANIZATIONAL MODEL AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. BUT AS I HAVE STATED, DEBATE DEBATING THIS POINT IN THE PAST, I'M TROUBLED THAT THE VIGOR AT THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS LED TO ARPA IN THIS NEW IDEA, SING DID YOU LAR, HAS LARGELY BEEN ABSENT WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THE COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS IN OTHER EXISTING APPLIED PROGRAMS. THE DEPARTMENT HAD A GREAT IDEA THAT I SUPPORT IN CREATING ENERGY RESEARCH CENTERS THAT BEGAN IN 2009 AND WE NOW HAVE 46 ENERGY FRONTIER RESEARCH CENTERS DOING GOOD WORK. WE NOW HAVE ENERGY INNOVATION HUBS. WE HAVE A HUB FOR ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING SYSTEMS. WE HAVE A HUB FOR FUELS FROM SUNLIGHT HUB. WE HAVE A HUB FOR MODELING AND SIMULATION. THERE IS A REQUEST APPROVED IN THIS BILL FOR BATTERIES AND STORAGE, A HUB FOR CRITICAL MATERIALS. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IN 2007 HAD AN IDEA THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BIOENERGY RESEARCH CENTER AND WE HAVE THREE. WE HAVE THE JOINT BIOENERGY INSTITUTE IN CALIFORNIA, BIORESEARCH CENTER IN MADISON, WISCONSIN, BIOENERGY SCIENCE CENTER IN OAK RIDGE, TENNESSEE. 1997, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAD AN IDEA TO HAVE A GEE O'NOEM AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WE HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL POWER IN THE VARIOUS RABT LABORATORIES THAT I HAVEN'T ENUMERATED IN MY REMARKS. GIVEN THE ALLOCATION WE HAVE, WE HAVE CUTS IN THE SCIENCE AND EERE THAT PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THESE RESEARCH CENTERS. BEFORE WE PROCEED THE LINES ESTABLISHED IN THIS AMENDMENT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEIR ALLOCATIONS OF RESOURCES ARE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY HAVE HAD TO MAKE SURE THERE IS GOOD COMMUNICATION AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROMISE OF ARPA IS MET AS WE PROCEED DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE AGAIN WE START MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS. I DO APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO DO HERE. I DO SUPPORT THIS RESEARCH TO CREATE THIS KNOWLEDGE, BUT IT IS TIME TO ENSURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS MANAGING PROPERLY AND HAVING PROPER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ALL OF THESE OTHER CENTERS FIRST. FOR THAT REASON, I OBJECT TO THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:34:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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    VOTE. COMMARMENTE THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA REQUESTS A RODDED VOTE.…

    VOTE. COMMARMENTE THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA REQUESTS A RODDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18S FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:35:17 PM

    THE CLERK

    TECHNOLOGY LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM $160 MILLION. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY…

    TECHNOLOGY LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM $160 MILLION. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES, $6 MILLION.

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  • 08:35:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    MR. BROUN

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    48 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. BROUN

    THE LOAN PROGRAM, TRANSFERRING $6 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION…

    THE LOAN PROGRAM, TRANSFERRING $6 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY PRODUCING MORE FUEL-EFFICIENT AUTOMOBILES, BUT THERE IS NO GOOD REASON THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZING BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES AT A TIME WHEN OUR NATION IS BROKE. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY RECEIVE AN AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. WE HAVE SEEN AN INDUSTRY BAIL YOIT, MARKETING DISTORTING CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM AND SUBSIDIES ALL DONE WITH LITTLE REGARD WITH TAXPAYERS' MONEY. IT'S TIME WE BEGIN TO REVERSE THIS DISTURBING TREND AND LET THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY SUCCEED OR FAIL. WE HAVE TO STOP THESE KINDS OF SUBSIDIES PARTICULARLY IN THESE HARD TIMES WHERE OUR NATION IS IN AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:37:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 08:37:08 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. I'M…

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF A THRIVING DOMESTIC AUTO INDUSTRY, BUT I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE SLOW PACE WHICH THE DEPARTMENT HAS IMPLEMENTED THIS PROGRAM. IN THE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM WE TRIMMED OUT $1.5 BILLION FOR THIS PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN SITTING UNUSED SINCE 2009. WE PUT IT TOWARDS FLOOD ASSISTANCE WHERE THERE WAS A TRUE EMERGENCY PURPOSE, BUT WE LEFT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE. CUTTING THOSE OFF MIDSTREAM THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND INVESTMENT. BUT UNDERSTANDABLY, I KNOW WHERE THE GENTLEMAN IS COMING FROM BUT I URGE OPPOSITION TO HIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:38:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA.

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  • 08:38:06 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES MANUFACTURING PROGRAM SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES THAT CREATE ENERGY JOBS AND REDUCE OUR NATION'S DEPENDENCE ON OIL. I DO BELIEVE THIS IS AN ENERGY ISSUE AS FAR AS REDUCING OUR DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL. IF THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPT, IT WOULD ENSURE WE HAVE NO OVERSIGHT OVER LOANS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY ISSUED ENSURING THAT THE CONGRESS AND ADMINISTRATION WOULD GIVE UP THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE USED IN A MANNER THEY WERE INTENDED. FOR THOSE REASONS AND REASONS TALKED OUT BY MY CHAIRMAN, I WOULD OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:39:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM JEA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.…

    THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM JEA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA REQUESTS A RODDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA WILL BE POSTPONED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEKS RECOGNITION? CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:39:45 PM

    THE CLERK

    22, DEPARTMENTAL ADMINISTRATION, $22,514,000.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. BROUN

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. THE GENTLEMAN HAS TWO PRE-PRINTED…

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. THE GENTLEMAN HAS TWO PRE-PRINTED AMENDMENTS. COULD YOU TELL US WHICH ONE YOU ARE DISCUSSING FIRST?

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  • 08:40:24 PM

    THE CLERK

    64, PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. BROUN

    MR. CHARNE. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THE OFFICE…

    MR. CHARNE. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THE OFFICE OF ENERGY SECRETARY BY 50% TRANSFERRING 2.5 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. I HAVE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE FLOOR DURING THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS WORKING TO FIND SPENDING CUTS ACROSS EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT AND ACROSS EVERY AGENCY. I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES OF THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY FACES AND THE ENORMITY OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT HE IS TASKED WITH OVERSEEING. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY MUST DO ITS PART TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. WIFE TO CUT WHEREVER WE CAN. THE FUTURE OF OUR NATURE DEPENDS UPON IT. OUR FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN DEPENDS ON IT. WE ARE BROKE AS A NATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY AND FIND WHEREVER WE CAN REDUCE EXPENDITURES. I URGE SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:41:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 08:41:47 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    BROUN IS INSISTENT AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS AMENDMENT AND I'M…

    BROUN IS INSISTENT AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS AMENDMENT AND I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:42:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO.

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  • 08:42:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEBRASKA, FOR WHAT REASON DO YOU RISE?

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    MR. FORTENBERRY

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. FORTENBERRY OF NEBRASKA, PAGE 32, LINE 4, AFTER THE DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. FORTENBERRY OF NEBRASKA, PAGE 32, LINE 4, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, REDUCE BY $35 MILLION. AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT INCREASE BY $35 MILLION.

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  • 08:43:05 PM

    MR. FORTENBERRY

    THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ADMINISTRATION…

    THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNT BY $35 MILLION AND INCREASE THE GLOBAL THREAT REDUCTION INITIATIVE BY $35 MILLION. AS CO-FOUNDER AS THE CAUCUS TOGETHER WITH MY COLLEAGUE, MR. SCHIFF, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL NUCLEAR SECURITY THREAT AND VULNERABILITIES AND WOULD LIKE TO SECURE FISSILE MATERIALS AND PREVENT NUCLEAR MATERIALS HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD. I WANT TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE SANCHEZ FOR HER COMMITMENT TO THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AS WELL. NUCLEAR THREATS IS SO SERIOUS AND WE SHRINK FROM EVEN CONTEMPLATING IT. BUT IGNORING THE PROBLEM IS NOT AN OPTION. THERE IS RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD STEPS WE CAN TO REDUCE OUR VULNERABILITIES. TO DATE, THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAM HAS CONVERTED OR VERIFIED THE SHUTDOWN OF 76 OUT OF 200 HIGHLY ENRICHED URANIUM REACTORS TO BE SHUT DOWN BY THE YEAR 2022. THE PROGRAM HAS REMOVED 3,855 URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM FROM 42 COUNTRIES. THE PROGRAM HAS ELIMINATED URANIUM FROM 19 COUNTRIES AND PLANS ON ELIMINATING ALL OF IT FROM ADDITIONAL NINE COUNTRIES BY DECEMBER OF 2013. THESE COUNTRIES, THE 19 IT WAS REMOVED FROM INCLUDE, BRA DILL,, BULGARIA, SPAIN, THAILAND AND GREECE, THE FILL OPINIONS, LIBYA, TURKEY, TAIWAN. AND THE PROGRAM HAS SEEN THE REMOVAL OF 960 KILOGRAMS AND THIS IS SINCE 2008 -- 2009. IT IS VITAL WE WORK TOGETHER TO TRANSEND ANY DIFFERENCES IN THIS BODY TO PREVENT OUR WORLD FROM SLEEPWALKING TO UTTER DISASTER. WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS. THE DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE EN ABLED COOPERATION FOR PROGRESS HAS BENEFITED INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS BOUND BY IDEOLOGIES THAT THREATEN THE VERY FOUNDATION OF CIVIL SOCIETY AND GOVERNMENT. I CONSIDER IT OUR COLLECTIVE MISSION TO ENSURE THAT WE SUCCEED IN CONTROLLING NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY AND MATERIALS TO LEAVE A STABLE GLOBAL ENVIRONMENT NOR GENERATION ITS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME AND REPRESENTATIVE SANCHEZ IN SUPPORTING THIS IMPORTANT AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:45:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND SALUTE THE GENTLEMAN ON HIS KNOWLEDGE AND…

    IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND SALUTE THE GENTLEMAN ON HIS KNOWLEDGE AND WE CAN'T ARGUE AGAINST THE STATISTICS HE HAS PROPOSED. I SHOULD STATE FOR THE RECORD IT SUPPORTS OUR NUCLEAR STRATEGY AND FULLY FUNDS TO LOCKDOWN NUCLEAR MATERIALS AROUND THE WORLD AND ENFORCING EXPORT CONTROLS AND PROMOTING NUCLEAR SAFEGUARDS AND WITH THAT, I YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER.

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  • 08:46:38 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN OFFERING THIS…

    THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT AND IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. CERTAINLY, THE SERIOUS THREAT CONFRONTING THIS NATION IS OF NUCLEAR TERRORISM AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S WORK ON THE ISSUE OFFERING THE AMENDMENT AS WELL AS THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF IT AND I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING TO ME. .

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  • 08:47:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, FOR WHAT REASON DO YOU RISE?

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    THE --

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    THE CHAIR

    REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. SHIMCUFFS ILLINOIS. AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE…

    OFFERED BY MR. SHIMCUFFS ILLINOIS. AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE BY $10 MILLION. PAGE 54, LINE 20, AFTER THE SECOND DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASED BY $10 MILLION. PAGE 54, LINE 25, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $10 MILLION.

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  • 08:47:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SHIMKUS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE NOTICE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE NOTICE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, I DON'T COME DOWN TO THE FLOOR OFTEN. THIS IS A SPECIAL OCCASION, A SPECIAL TIME TO BRING FOCUS ON YUCCA MOUNTAIN. WHAT THIS MONEY, AS THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUES INTO THE SHUTDOWN OF YUCCA MOUNTAIN, WE HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE LICENSING APPLICATION SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND LET THE SCIENCE SPEAK FOR ITSELF. THE $10 MILLION PROVIDED IN THE BILL IS A START BUT TOO LOW FOR THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION TO DO ANYTHING FUNCTIONAL TOWARD REVIEWING THE LICENSING APPLICATION. IN FACT, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO THEY WERE RECEIVING NEARLY $60 MILLION FOR THESE EFFORTS. IN ADDITION THE SHIMKUS-INSLEE DIDN'T OFFICIALLY GET RECORDED THAT WAY, BUT THAT WAS OUR INTENT, THAT JAY INSLEE, MY FRIEND FROM WASHINGTON STATE WOULD JOIN ME. THE AMENDMENT ADDS $10 MILLION TO CONTINUE THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN LICENSE APPLICATION. THERE IS $10 MILLION IN THE BILL AND MY AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE IT TO $20 MILLION. OUR AMENDMENT IS BUDGET-NEUTRAL AND FULLY OFFSET BY TAKING FUNDS FROM THE D.O.E.'S DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNT. WE ARE ASKING D.O.E. TO DO MORE WITH LESS BY MAKING MODEST CUTS TO AN ACCOUNT FOR SALRIES AND EXPENSES AND I AGAIN WANT TO THANK THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FOR HELPING US FIND A WAY TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION. AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, MR. INSLEE, FOR SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. I'VE HAD A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TALK TO ME ABOUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE FLOOR TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY. IN 1982 THE NUCLEAR WASTE POLICY ACT WAS PASSED, 0 YEARS -- 30 YEARS, COUNTLESS DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, DIFFERENT CONTROL OF THE CHAMBER HERE, BOTH PARTIES, THIS HAS BEEN OUR CONSISTENT POLICY FOR 30 YEARS. NOW WITH JAPAN AND FUKUSHIMA AND PART OF THE PROBLEM BEING HIGH LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE STORED IN POOLS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION AND THIS AMENDMENT SAYS, LET THE SCIENCE -- LET US FINISH THE SCIENCE TO GET TO THE FINAL PERMIT AND LET THAT SCIENCE BE THE JUDGE. IT'S PROVIDED THE MONEY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE HIGH LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE, ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, AND WE NEED IT IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION. IT'S BEEN OUR POLICY THAT THAT WOULD BE YUCCA MOUNTAIN, AN ISOLATED AREA IN NEVADA, IN THE DESERT, 90 MILES FROM LAS VEGAS, UNDERNEATH A MOUNTAIN IN THE DESERT IN ONE OF THE MOST AR I HAD PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY. IF WE -- ARID PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY. IF WE CAN'T STORE IT THERE WE REALLY CAN'T STORE IT ANYWHERE. AS YOU'LL HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE ALREADY THIS EVENING -- THERE ARE HISTORIC LOCATIONS WHERE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE IT. AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FOR HELPING ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE NEED A VOTE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:51:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    MR. INSLEE

    ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR -- STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. INSLEE

    THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MR. SHIMKUS FOR THIS EFFORT. THERE'S A COUPLE…

    THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MR. SHIMKUS FOR THIS EFFORT. THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THIS AMENDMENT. ONE IS THERE IS A NATIONAL INTEREST HERE. WE HAVE 75,000 METRIC TONS OF NUCLEAR WASTE AT 80 SITES IN 45 STATES. THIS IS A NATIONAL INTEREST, A NATIONAL BILL, AN APPROPRIATION WE NEED TO GET DONE. IN MY STATE IT'S PARTICULARLY ACUTE AT THE HANDFORD SITE, A PLACE WHERE WE FOUGHT WORLD WORE II AND THE COLD WAR AND NOW WE ARE PREPARING NUCLEAR WASTE TO GO TO YUCCA MOUNTAIN THAT ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE ALL DRESSED UP WITH NO PLACE TO GO IF WE DON'T FINISH THIS PROJECT. THANKS VERY SMALL STEP FORWARD, BUT I DO THINK -- THIS IS A VERY SMALL STEP FORWARD BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR THE $10 MILLION THAT WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD IN THE SCIENTIFIC ASSESSMENT OF THIS, BUT IT WILL BE ANOTHER STATEMENT BY THIS HOUSE OF WHY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED THAT STATEMENT -- WE MADE THAT THANK STATEMENT IN 19 47, WE MADE THAT STATEMENT IN 2002, WE MADE IT HERE IN 2007. THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT IN THE APPROPRIATIONS SYSTEM, IT IS AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT TO MAKE. WE GOT TO CONTINUE TO PUSH ON THIS BALL UPHILL UNTIL THIS JOB GETS DONE. WITH THAT, THANK YOU, MR. SHIMKUS, AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE HELPING US FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:52:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 08:52:31 PM

    MR. BROUN

    CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF MR.…

    CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF MR. SHIMKUS' AMENDMENT AND MR. INSLEE'S AND I CONGRATULATE THEM ON BRINGING THIS VERY IMPORTANT AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR IN THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL. JUST ACROSS THE SAVANNAH RIVER IN FROM HIGH DISTRICT IS THE SAVANNAH RIVER SITE. I'VE BEEN OVER THERE MANY TIMES. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORAGE OF NUCLEAR MATERIALS THAT AVAIL ON THE SITE. AND THAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. WE HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AS NUCLEAR WASTE AND I DON'T VIEW IT THAT WAY. IN FACT, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN THE FUEL RODS AND NUCLEAR MATERIAL THAT'S BEEN STORED AT FACILITIES ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO UTILIZE IT AND WE'RE JUST BEGINNING THAT PROCESS, SOME OF THESE FAST REACTORS, SMALL MODULAR REACTORS WOULD BURN UP A LOT OF THIS NUCLEAR MATERIAL AND PROVIDE ENERGY THAT'S DRASTICALLY NEEDED. BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE MAN FROM RHODE ISLAND AND HIS STAFFER WHO LEFT FROM BEING A STAFFER IN THE U.S. SENATE AND WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION HAS, WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE ILLEGALLY CLOSED UP THIS ADMINISTRATION'S ILLEGALLY CLOSED UP YUCCA MOUNTAIN. THIS FACILITY'S BEEN STUDIED AT GREAT LENTION. I'M ON THE SCIENCE, SPACE AND TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE. SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND OVERSIGHT. AND WE WANTED THIS. WE'VE HAD HEARINGS, IN FACT, I JUST RECENTLY HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM OUR LOCAL AREA IN THE AUGUSTA AREA, IN NORTH AUGUSTA, IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA AREA, FROM AKIN COUNTY WHERE S.O.S. IS, COME TO TESTIFY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND ABOUT YUCCA MOUNTAIN. IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE AS A CONGRESS DO WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. WE NEED A CENTRAL DEPOSITORY. SOMEPLACE WHERE WE CAN STORE THIS MATERIAL, A REPOSITORY SO THIS MATERIAL CAN BE SET IN A SAFE, SCIENTIFICALLY STUDIED AREA THAT WON'T HARM ANYBODY AND YUCCA FITS ALL THOSE CATEGORIES, IT'S THE ONLY PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DOES. WE CAN STORE THIS MATERIAL UNTIL WE CAN UTILIZE IT. WE NEED TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT AS A NATION. NUCLEAR ENERGY IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE KEYS OF AN ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE ENERGY POLICY AND WE'VE ON OUR SIDE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THAT AND I KNOW SOME DEMOCRATS ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF NUCLEAR ENERGY AS I AM. I'M AN ARDENT SUPPORTER OF NUCLEAR ENERGY, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR US TO GO FORWARD. BUT YUCCA MOUNTAIN HAS TO BE A PART OF THAT FORMULA. AND WE CANNOT CLOSE IT UP. WE'VE SPENT BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THIS FACILITY, ONE MAN, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT IT IN HIS BACKYARD, HAS PROMOTED THIS ADMINISTRATION TO CLOSE IT UP AND WE'VE GOT TO OPEN IT UP AND SO I CONGRATULATE MR. INSLEE AND PARTICULARLY MY DEAR FRIEND, JOHN SHIMKUS FROM ILLINOIS, FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR. WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT, WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE ON IT SO WE CAN SHOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. AND I CONGRATULATE THEM AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT AND HOPE OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL SUPPORT IT TOO AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:55:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, FOR WHAT REASON DO YOU RISE?

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  • 08:56:01 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I STRONGLY SUPPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE SHIMKUS-INSLEE AMENDMENT. THIS…

    I STRONGLY SUPPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE SHIMKUS-INSLEE AMENDMENT. THIS ADMINISTRATION'S YUCCA MOUNTAIN POLICY HAS BEEN AT BEST IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAXPAYERS' TIME AND TREASURE. MOST MEMBERS OF THIS ROOM HAD VOTED MANY TIMES IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. FOR YEARS WE SUPPORTED IT, IT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND, AND ASSURED THAT THE SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PROCESS CONTINUED SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND HOW GOOD THE SITE WAS . YET DESPITE MORE THAN THE $15 BILLION ALREADY SPENT ON THE SITE OR THE MORE THAN $16 BILLION IN POTENTIAL FINES THAT THE TAXPAYER IS FACING BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT FULFILLED ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE SPENT FUEL OFF THE HANDS OF SO MANY UTILITIES, THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS PERSISTED IN A BACKROOM POLITICAL DEAL TO SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT. YET DESPITE THE ADMINISTRATION'S BEST EFFORTS TO HIDE FROM THE PUBLIC INCONVENIENT FACTS WE NOW KNOW THAT THE SCIENCE DOES SUPPORT THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN AS A LONG-TERM GEOLOGICAL REPOSITORY. THE N.R.C.'S REVIEW WHICH WAS VIRTUALLY COMPLETE WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION PULLED THE PLUG APPARENTLY SHOWS THAT THE SITE CAN SAFELY STORE THE FUEL FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS IF THAT WERE NECESSARY. EVEN THE FACE OF IN THE ADMINISTRATION HASN'T CHANGED ITS POSITION. WE CAN ONLY KEEP THE PRESSURE ON AND TRUST THAT GOOD POLICY AND GOOD SCIENCE WILL EVENTUALLY OVERCOME BAD POLITICS. WE NEED TO FINISH THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN LICENSE APPLICATION SO THAT WE AS A NATION CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THE FACTS AS WE DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF NUCLEAR ENERGY IN THIS COUNTRY. I WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN, BOTH MR. INSLEE AND MR. SHIMKUS, MEMBERS OF THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE AND MAY I SAY I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND MR. SHIMKUS' SUBCOMMITTEE AS AN OBSERVER AND I MAY SAY I WAS IMPRESSED BY HOW YOU QUESTIONED THE N.R.C. COMMISSIONERS AND PARTICULARLY THE CHAIRMAN ON SOME OF THE VERY QUESTIONS YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS HAVE RAISED AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR VIGOR AND FOR YOUR ASTUTENESS AND FOR COMING TO THE FLOOR WITH THIS VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE AND I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD UNLESS HE CARES TO HAVE HIS OWN TIME TO THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. VISCLOSKY.

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  • 08:58:34 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING. I WOULD ADD TWO BRIEF COMMENTS IN…

    I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING. I WOULD ADD TWO BRIEF COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND THE CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS. THE ADMINISTRATION'S ATTEMPT TO SHUT THIS ACTIVITY DOWN WITHOUT, I BELIEVE, OR WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC MERIT AND ARE CONTRARY TO EXISTING LAW AND CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTION, I BELIEVE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMONSTRATE ITS CAPABILITY, TO MEET ITS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION ORE BY ADDRESSING THE SPENT FUEL AND OTHER HIGH LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE PERMANENTLY SHUTDOWN REACTORS. I WOULD JOIN IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN YIELDING TIME.

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  • 08:59:15 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    THE GENTLEMAN AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YUCCA MOUNTAIN OPEN, MR. CHAIRMAN. I…

    THE GENTLEMAN AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YUCCA MOUNTAIN OPEN, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:59:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. SMIMSHIM MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS --

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  • 08:59:34 PM

    MR. SHIMKUS

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 08:59:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 08:59:39 PM

    MR. SHIMKUS

    LIKE A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS WILL BE POSTPONED. CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 09:00:01 PM

    THE CLERK

    PAGE 33, LINE 1, OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, $41,774,000. ATOMIC…

    PAGE 33, LINE 1, OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, $41,774,000. ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES, NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, WEAPONS ACTIVITIES, $7,131,993,000. NAVAL REACTORS, $1,030,630,000. OFFICE OF THE ADMINISTRATOR, $420 MILLION. ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER DEFENSE ACTIVITIES, DEFENSE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, $4,937,619,000. OTHER DEFENSE ACTIVITIES, $814 MILLION. POWER MARKETING ADMINISTRATION, BONNEVILLE POWER ADMINISTRATION FUND, DURING FISCAL YEAR 2012, NO NEW DIRECT LOAN OBLIGATIONS MAY BE MADE FROM SUCH FUND. OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, SOUTHEASTERN POWER ADMINISTRATION. $,428,000. -- $8,428,000. OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, SOUTHWESTERN POWER ADMINISTRATION, $45,400,000. OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, WESTERN AREA POWER ADMINISTRATION, $285,900,000. FALCON AND AM STAD OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE FUND. $4,169,000. FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $304,604,000. GENERAL PROVISIONS, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, SECTION 301, NO APPROPRIATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY SHALL BE USED TO INITIATE ANY PROGRAM IF THE PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED BY CONGRESS. SECTION 302, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO AUGMENT THE FUNDS FOR SEVERANCE PAYMENTS URN SECTION 4604 OF THE ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACT. SECTION 303, UNEXPENDED BALANCES MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR SUCH ACTIVITIES ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO THIS TITLE. SECTION 304, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENT TO PERFORM ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES OUTSIDE THE LEGALLY DEFINED BONNEVILLE SERVICE TERRITORY. SECTION 305, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY MAKES A USER FACILITY AVAILABLE TO UNIVERSITY THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ENSURE BROAD PUBLIC NOTICE OF SUCH AVAILABILITY. SECTION 306. FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES ARE DEEMED TO BE SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED FOR PURPOSES OF SECTION 504 OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY ACT OF 1947. SECTION 307. IN ANY FISCAL YEAR IN WHICH THE SECRETARY DETERMINES THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE KNEED TO REIMBURSE THE COSTS OF DEFINED BENEFIT PENSION PLANS, THE SECRETARY MAY TRANSFER NOT MORE THAN 1% OF AN APPROPRIATION MADE AVAILABLE. SECTION 30 , NONE OF THE FUNDS SHALL BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FACILITIES CLASSIFIED AS HIGH HAZARD NUCLEAR FACILITIES UNDER 10-CFR PART 830. SECTION 309, PLANT PROJECTS FOR WHICH AMOUNTS ARE MADE AVAILABLE WITH AN ESTIMATED COST OF LESS THAN $10,000 ARE CONSIDERED FOR PURPOSES OF SECTION 4703 OF THE ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACT. SECTION 310. NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO APPROVE CRITICAL DECISION 2 OR CRITICAL DECISION 3 UNDER DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ORDER 4013.3-B FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WHERE THE TOTAL PROJECT COST EXCEEDS $100 MILLION. SECTION 311, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO MAKE A GRANT ALLOCATION TOTALING IN EXCESS OF $1 MILLION. SECTION 312, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO MAKE FINAL OR CONDITIONAL LOAN GUARANTEE AWARD UNLESS THE SECRETARY PROVIDES NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMITTEES ON APPROPRIATIONS. SECTION 313, NONE OF THE FUNDS SHALL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO INITIATE ANY SIGNIFICANT REGULATORY ACTION AS DEFINED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER 12866. TITLE 4, INDEPENDENT AGENCIES, APPALACHIAN REEG REGION -- REGENCY COMMISSION, $64,000. DEFENSE NUCLEAR FACILITIES SAFETY BOARD SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $29,130,000. DELTA REGIONAL AUTHORITY, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $11,700,000. DEGNAW LEE COMMISSION, $10,700,000. DENALI COMMISSION, $10,700,000. NORTHERN BORDER COMMISSION, $ 150,000. SOUTHEAST CRESCENT REGIONAL COMMISSION, $250,000.

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  • 09:05:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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    CLERK WILL --

  • 09:05:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:05:38 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE SOUTHEAST CRESCENT REEG THAT WILL COMMISSION…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE SOUTHEAST CRESCENT REEG THAT WILL COMMISSION IS A FEDERAL-STATE PARTNERSHIP INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC NEEDS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND THE LORD REALLY KNOWS WE HAVE SOME ECONOMIC NEEDS IN THAT AREA. IN FACT IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE COUNTIES THAT UNEMPLOYMENT APPROACHES OR EXCEEDS 25%. THE CONTAINMENT IN F.Y. 2012 ENERGY APPROPRIATIONS BILL IS A $250,000 IN FUNDING FOR THIS COMMISSION. MY AMENDMENT ELIMINATING FUNDING FOR THE SOUTHEAST CRESCENT REGIONAL COMMISSION, TRANSFERING THE $250,000 TO THE SPEND REGULAR DUCKS ACCOUNT. MANY OF YOU MAY ASK, WHY GO AFTER SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT AS $250,000? MR. CHAIRMAN, HERE WE SEE A FEDERAL COMMISSION CONDUCTING WORK THAT WOULD BE BETTER MANAGED BY STATE AGENCY. THIS AGENCY IS SO SMALL IT'S HARD TO EVEN FIND INFORMATION ON HOW THE COMMISSION SPENDS HARD-EARNED TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS. IN FACT, WE CAN'T EVEN FIND A WEBSITE FOR THE COMMISSION. WE NEED TO LOOK FOR SPENDING CUTS ACROSS EVERY LEVEL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS FINDING CUTS IN THE SMALLEST OF FEDERAL BUREAUCRACIES. FOR GENERATIONS, AMERICANS HAVE BEEN TOLD BY MEMBERS ACROSS THE -- -- FOR GENERATIONS MEMBERS HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THOSE ACROSS THE AISLE THAT MORE GOVERNMENT, MORE BUREAUCRACY AND MORE FEDERAL SPENDING ARE THE ANSWERS TO ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY BECAUSE OF THAT KIND OF PHILOSOPHY. THIS LINE OF THINKING IS -- HAS REMOVED MANY OF THE LIBERTIES OUR FOUNDERS INTENDED FOR US TO HAVE. CONGRESS MUST MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ROLL BACK THE BIG GOVERNMENT MENTALITY IN WASHINGTON. AND ALLOW STATES TO MANAGE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS. ZEROING OUT FUNDING FOR THIS COMMISSION WILL BE A GOOD STEP IN SENDING GOVERNMENT POWERS BACK TO THE STATES AND PEOPLE. I URGE SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:07:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 09:10:39 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    HAPPY TO.

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    MR. BROUN

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. TELL ME WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES. WE CAN'T…

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. TELL ME WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES. WE CAN'T FIND A WEBSITE FOR THEM, CAN'T FIND ANYTHING FOR THEM. THIS IS MY DISTRICT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I REPRESENT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE STATE OF GEORGIA AND IN FACT WE WORKED STRONGLY, MY STAFF AND I, WITH THE APPALACHIAN REGIONAL COMMISSION, THE A.R.C., THAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED BUT WE CAN'T FIND EVEN A WEBSITE FOR THIS COMMISSION. JUST HAVING A COMMISSION FOR THE SAKE OF A COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS TO BE CONSIDERED A SMALL AM OF MONEY, $250,000 TO ME IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF WE ADD LITTLE BITS OF MONEY, AFTER A WHILE, THEN WE GET INTO BIGGER AND BIGGER FUNDS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT GETTING RID OF DUPLICATIVE COMMISSIONS, DUPLICATIVE IF YOU THINKS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS JUST ONE BECAUSE MY STAFF AND I LOOKED TO TRY TO FIND WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES. WHAT THIS $250,000 IS EXPENDED ON. WE COULDN'T FIND IT. I'M FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN THOSE COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST GEORGIA THAT I REPRESENT, WE DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. IN SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES, WE HAVE 20%, 25%, MAYBE HIGHER UNDEREMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT RATES. SO I'M EXTREMELY KGNY SANT OF THE NEED FOR -- EXTREMELY COGNIZANT OF THE NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR JOBS FOR THESE AREAS. BUT I'M ALSO COGNIZANT THAT WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY AS A NATION AND WHEREVER WE CAN SAVE MONEY, I WOULD LIKE TO DO SO. SO I -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES. I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD PLEASE TELL ME.

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  • 09:12:26 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

  • 09:13:06 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THE GENTLEMAN.

  • 09:13:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. AYES AYES. --…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. AYES AYES. -- THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES VISIT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA.

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  • 09:13:24 PM

    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE ON THAT.

  • 09:13:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,…

    GENTLEMAN REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER BUSINESSEN OF THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA WILL BE POST-POPED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 09:13:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    14, NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $1,247,000,…

    14, NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $1,247,000, OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL, $10, 60,000. NUCLEAR WASTE TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARD, SALARIES AND EXPENCES, $3,400,000 DOLLARS. OFFICE OF THE FEDERAL COORDINATOR FOR ALASKA NATURAL GAS TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, $4,032,000. GENERAL PROVISION INDEPENDENT AGENCIES. SECTION 401. NONE OF THE FUNDS FOR NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION SALARIES AND EXPENSES SHALL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH A REPROGRAMMING OF FUNDS THAT CREATE OR INITIATE A NEW PROGRAM, PROJECT, OR ACTIVITY. TITLE 5, SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR DELASTER RELIEF. SECTION 501. UNOBLIGATED PLANS OF FUNDS IN EXCESS OF $1,028,484,400 MADE AVAILABLE FOR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, CAPITAL ASSISTANCE FOR HIGH SPEED RAIL CORRIDORS AND INTERCITY PASSENGER RAIL SERVICE IS HEREBY RESCINDED. TITLE 6. GENERAL PROVISIONS. SECTION 601. NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED IN ANY WAY TO INFLUENCE CONGRESSIONAL ACTION ON ANY LEGISLATION OR APPROPRIATION MATTERS PENDING BEFORE CONGRESS. SECTION 602, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE TRANSFERED TO ANY DEPARTMENT OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. SECTION 603, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE OBLIGATED BY ANY COVERED EXECUTIVE AGENCY IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 6-B OF THE IRAN SANCTIONS ACT OF 1996. . SECTION 604, NONE OF THE FUNDS TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES WITH THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN WITH THE LICENSE APPLICATION. SECTION 605, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE EXPENDED FOR ANY NEW HIRE BY ANY FEDERAL AGENCY. SECTION 606, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A CORPORATION THAT HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY VIOLATION UNDER ANY FEDERAL LAW WITHIN THE PRECEDING 24 MONTHS. SECTION 607, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH ANY CORPORATION THAT ANY UNPAID FEDERAL TAX LIABILITY IS NOT BEING PAID PURSUANT TO AN AGREEMENT. SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT, SECTION 608, THE AMOUNT BY WHICH THE APPLICABLE ALLOCATION OF NEW BUDGET AUTHORITY MADE BY THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS IS ZERO DOLLARS.

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  • 09:16:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DO NOW RISE.

  • 09:16:43 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DO NOW RISE.

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    THE CHAIR

    QUESTION IS ON THE COMMITTEE NOW RISING. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    QUESTION IS ON THE COMMITTEE NOW RISING. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 09:17:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE WHOLE HOUSE HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION DREBTS ME TO REPORT IT HAS…

    THE WHOLE HOUSE HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION DREBTS ME TO REPORT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 09:17:22 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE COMMITTEE REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R.…

    THE COMMITTEE REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2354 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 09:17:38 PM

    MR. FRELINGHUYSEN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS IN…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS IN WHICH TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL ON H.R. 2354.

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  • 09:17:50 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO ORDERED. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE THE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO ORDERED. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE THE FOLLOWING PERSONAL REQUESTS.

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  • 09:18:02 PM

    THE CLERK

    ABSENCE REQUESTED FOR ELLISON OF MINNESOTA FOR TODAY. WORKS THE REQUEST IS…

    ABSENCE REQUESTED FOR ELLISON OF MINNESOTA FOR TODAY. WORKS THE REQUEST IS --

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  • 09:18:14 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE REQUEST IS GRANTED.

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    DO NOW ADJOURN.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY THE HOUSE STANDS ADJOURNED UNTIL 10:00 A.M.

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