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House Session - July 25, 2011
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  • 10:01:34 AM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    WE BEGIN ANOTHER WEEK IN POLITICAL WONDERLAND. THE DOW FALLS 100 POINTS AT…

    WE BEGIN ANOTHER WEEK IN POLITICAL WONDERLAND. THE DOW FALLS 100 POINTS AT THE OPENING BELL. WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD DO? WELL, IF WE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE AND PROBLEM SOLVING SKILLS OF COLLEGE SOPHOMORE ECONOMIC STUDENTS OR WOMEN IN A CHURCH STUDY GROUP, BEFORE THE WEEK IS OUT WE WOULD ESTABLISH SOME SIMPLE STEPS. FIRST, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IN A DIVIDED GOVERNMENT WITH REAL ECONOMIC CHALLENGES NO ONE GROUP IS ALLOWED ESPECIALLY THOSE REPRESENTING A MINORITY OF OPINION TO HAVE THEIR WAY ENTIRELY. WE WOULD BEGIN BY REPEALING THE SILLY DEBT CEILING LIMITATION. A LAW THAT WAS ENACTED IN 1917 WHEN THE UNITED STATES WAS ABOUT TO EMBARK UPON A BORROWING BINGE IN WORLD WAR I. IT WAS USED TO LOOK LIKE WE WERE MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND IT IS A CHARADE WE HAVE DONE DOZENS OF TIMES SINCE. THE FACT IS THESE ARE DEBTS WE'VE ALREADY INCURRED AND THE UNITED STATES WILL OBLIGATE THEM. WHAT SORT OF CHARADE ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH UNTIL WE FINALLY OWN UP? SECOND, WE WOULD ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE CHALLENGES OF UNSUSTAINABLE SPENDING AND TAX CUTS AND THE NEED TO RESTORE THE ECONOMY AND COMPETE IN A GLOBAL WORLD BUSINESS CLIMATE. IN AN IDEAL WORLD, MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW HOW THEY WOULD CONTROL SPENDING IN A WAY THAT'S AGREEABLE WITHIN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. IN FACT, THEY WOULD HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN NOW AND THE ELECTION TO ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT IF THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY TO HIGHLIGHT THAT EFFORT. NEXT, WE WOULD DEAL WITH A REAL CONSENSUS ON THINGS LIKE MILITARY SPENDING. THERE'S BROAD AGREEMENT ACROSS PARTY LINES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHY SHOULDN'T WE AFTER MORE THAN HALF CENTURY AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II, 20 YEARS AFTER THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOVIET UNION BRINGS THOSE TROOPS HOME FROM EUROPE? OF COURSE WE CAN DO THAT. AND IT'S THE START OF MANY THINGS THAT WOULD HELP US RESTORE MILITARY SPENDING. NEXT, WE CAN DEAL MEANINGFULLY WITH OUR HEALTH CARE COSTS. MANY PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES SPEND FAR LESS MONEY FOR MEDICAID, MEDICARE THAN THE HIGH SPENDING AREAS. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, AND IN FACT THOSE LOW-SPENDING, HIGH-VALUED AREAS COULD PROVIDE BETTER QUALITY HEALTH CARE. LET'S USE THE POWER OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM ACT TO ACCELERATE THOSE REFORMS AND SPREAD THEM, SAVING MONEY AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF CARE. TURN TO THE TAX CODE. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WOULD SUPPORT A COMBINED MODEST, REASONABLE TAX REFORM THAT WOULD ACTUALLY RAISE SOME REVENUE BY CLOSING UNJUSTIFIED TAX LOOPHOLES AND BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH MORE FAIREST SIMPLICITY. MORE PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY PAY THEIR TAXES. WE WOULD HAVE MORE REVENUE AND THERE WOULD BE MORE CONFIDENCE IN THE SYSTEM. WE WOULD DEAL WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICIT, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION AROUND HERE AS IT SHOULD, BUT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DEFISHES IN TERMS OF -- DEFICIENCY IN TERMS OF BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION, SEWER, WATER, TRILLIONS OF DEFICIT, UNDERMINING OUR COMPETITIVENESS. WE WOULD HAVE MODEST USER FEES TO SUPPORT NEEDED IMPROVEMENT, INTELLIGENT USE OF CREDIT THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN NOT JUST THE ECONOMY BUT IMPROVING OUR HEALTH AND OUR GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS. WE WOULD REFORM AGRICULTURAL SPENDING. THOSE COLLEGE STUDENTS COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXPERTS HAVE TOLD US, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT FOR AMERICA'S FARMERS AND RANCHERS, IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT, PUT MORE RESOURCES IN NUTRITION FOR OUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME STRENGTHENING AMERICAN AGRICULTURE, SAVING MONEY. THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. FINALLY, WE WOULD LAUNCH A VERY PUBLIC AMERICAN PROCESS ON HOW TO STRENGTHEN SOCIAL SECURITY. PROTECT THAT LIFELINE FOR OUR SENIORS IN A WAY THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER RATHER THAN DIVIDES THEM. ANY ROTARY CLUB WITH 10 PEOPLE AND AN INTERNET CONNECTION AND A SHEET OF BUTCHER PAPER CAN COME UP WITH ONE OR THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS AND WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO HARD. IT DOESN'T NEED TO RISK KNOCKING THE ECONOMY INTO ANOTHER TAIL SPIN. DONE RIGHT WE CAN MEET OUR REAL CHALLENGES IN A WAY THAT PUTS US ON A SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC PATH. IT REBUILDS AND RENEWS AMERICA AND UNITES OUR COUNTRY TO MEET OUR CHALLENGES AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:06:41 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. SEEING NO OTHER SPEAKERS, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 12-A OF RULE 1, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN RECESS UNTIL NOON

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  • 12:01:11 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL BE OFFERED BY OUR CHAPLAIN,…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL BE OFFERED BY OUR CHAPLAIN, FATHER CONROY.

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  • 12:02:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE HOUSE HIS APPROVAL THEREOF AND…

    DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE HOUSE HIS APPROVAL THEREOF AND PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1 OF RULE 1, THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 12:02:35 PM

    MR. POE

    MR. SPEAKER, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1, RULE 1, I DEMAND A VOTE ON AGREEING TO…

    MR. SPEAKER, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1, RULE 1, I DEMAND A VOTE ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL.

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  • 12:02:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    IS ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    IS ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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  • 12:02:54 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF LULE 20, FURTHER -- RULE 0, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION ARE POSTPONED. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY WILL BE LED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CLAY.

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  • 12:03:18 PM

    MR. CLAY

    TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH…

    TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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  • 12:03:31 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    WILL ENTERTAIN REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    WILL ENTERTAIN REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 12:03:37 PM

    MR. POE

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:03:40 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. --

  • 12:03:45 PM

    MR. POE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE MARIANA ISLANDS RISE?

  • 12:05:02 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE MARIANA ISLANDS RISE?

  • 12:05:10 PM

    MR. SABLAN

    HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME I RESERVE THE…

    HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME -- REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 12:05:15 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:05:18 PM

    MR. SABLAN

    MR. SPEAKER, 50 YEARS AGO PRESIDENT KENNEDY OBSERVES THE DELIGHTFUL ARTS,…

    MR. SPEAKER, 50 YEARS AGO PRESIDENT KENNEDY OBSERVES THE DELIGHTFUL ARTS, FAR FROM BEING AN INTERPRETATION, A DISTRACTION, IN THE LIFE OF A NATION IS VERY CLOSE TO THE NATURE -- TO THE CENTER OF A NATION'S PURPOSE SEASON IS A TEST OF THE QUALITY OF THE NATION'S CIVILIZATION. I ASK YOU TO JOIN ME TODAY IN RECOGNIZING AN ARTIST IN THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS WHO VERY MUCH EMBODIES THE IDEAL OF WHICH THE PRESIDENT SPOKE. AND WHO THROUGH HISED A VOCATIONS AS BOTH ARTIST AND EDUCATOR HAS BROUGHT IN A COMMUNITY'S APPRECIATION OF ART, CREATIVITY AND CULTURE AND ENCOURAGED OTHERS TO EXPLORE AND ACHIEVE ARTISTIC DIVERSE AS WELL. TODAY HE'S REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES IN CHINA. ARTISTS FROM 96 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES ARE CREATING SCULPTURES THERE WHICH WILL BE ADDING TO SOME 500 SCULPTURES ALREADY EXHIBITED IN THAT CITY FOR PREVIOUS EMPOSEUMS. WE ALL WATCH HIS PROGRESS, WE WISH HIM WELL AND THANK HIM FOR REPRESENTING THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS AND AMERICA WITH SUCH DISTINCTION AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:06:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALABAMA RISE?

  • 12:06:28 PM

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:06:31 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:06:38 PM

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    YEARS AS A FRESHMEN SENATOR, AMERICA'S DEBT INCREASED $400 BILLION. DURING…

    YEARS AS A FRESHMEN SENATOR, AMERICA'S DEBT INCREASED $400 BILLION. DURING OBAMA'S NEXT TWO YEARS IN THE SENATE MAJORITY AMERICA'S DEBT INCREASED ANOTHER $1.8 TRILLION. AS PRESIDENT, BARACK OBAMA DROVE UP AMERICA'S DEBT ANOTHER $3 TRILLION.

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  • 12:06:59 PM

    MR. BROOKS

    IN BARACK OBAMA'S TIME IN WASHINGTON, AMERICA'S DEBT LOAD HAS INCREASED BY…

    IN BARACK OBAMA'S TIME IN WASHINGTON, AMERICA'S DEBT LOAD HAS INCREASED BY MORE THAN $5 TRILLION. THAT'S A 50% INCREASE IN JUST SIX YEARS. DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN? THE LONGER OBAMA'S IN WASHINGTON, THE WORSE AMERICA'S DEBT AND THE WEAKER AMERICA BECOMES. WHAT IS PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SOLUTION? OBAMA SUBMITS RECORD HIGH BUDGETS TO CONGRESS THAT CONTINUE WASHINGTON'S UNSUSTAINABLE SPENDING BINGE. OBAMA DEMAND AS DEBT CEILING INCREASE WITH NO SPENDING CUTS. MR. PRESIDENT, AMERICA NEEDS WHITE HOUSE LEADERSHIP, IF YOU HAVE A WRITTEN SOLUTION TO THIS DEBT CRISIS PLEASE SUBMIT IT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE NO LESS. MR. SPEAKER, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:07:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN IS REMINDED TO ADDRESS HIS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN IS REMINDED TO ADDRESS HIS REMARKS TO THE CHAIR. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE A COMMUNICATION.

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  • 12:07:57 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE SPEAKER, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SIR, PURSUANT TO THE PERMISSION…

    THE SPEAKER, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SIR, PURSUANT TO THE PERMISSION GRANTED IN CLAUSE 2-H OF RULE 2 OF THE RULES OF THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THE CLERK RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE SENATE ON JULY 22, 2011, AT 3:28 P.M., THAT THE SENATE PASSED SENATE RESOLUTION 234, THAT THE SENATE PASSED SENATE 300. WITH BEST WISHED, I AM, SIGNED, SINCERELY, KAREN L. HAAS.

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  • 12:13:35 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FROM LOUISIANA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR…

    FROM LOUISIANA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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  • 12:13:50 PM

    MR. LANDRY

    MR. SPEAKER. YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THIS WEEKEND TO GO HOME TO…

    MR. SPEAKER. YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THIS WEEKEND TO GO HOME TO LOUISIANA WHICH I ENJOY DOING AND I HEARD FROM A STATE SENATOR OF MINE WHO IS ALSO A BANKER AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD A GENTLEMAN COME IN HIS OFFICE THIS WEEKEND ASKING FOR SOME MORE MONEY ON HIS LOAN AND HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION, WE HAVE TO SEE YOUR DEBT TO INCOME RATIO, YOUR ASSETS VERSUS YOUR LIABILITY. AND SO AFTER LOOKING AT THAT HE EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT THE RATIO DOESN'T WORK. HE CAN'T LEND HIM ANY MORE MONEY. BUT IF YOU PLUG IN THE SAME TYPE -- THAT SAME RATIO, WHAT OUR FELLOW REGULATORS ARE REQUIRING OF OUR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WHEN YOU LOOK UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND AMERICAN BUSINESSES, YOU WILL FIND THAT IF WE PUT THAT SAME SET OF RULES ON THIS GOVERNMENT THAT BASICALLY OUR FEDERAL REGULATORS WOULD NOT LET US BORROW ANY MORE MONEY. THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS, MR. SPEAKER, IS THAT WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM HERE IN WASHINGTON. WE CANNOT RAISE THIS DEBT CEILING UNLESS WE DO THREE THINGS. WE CUT, WE CAP AND WE BALANCE OUR BUDGET. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RESERVE.

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  • 12:14:56 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 12:15:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:15:09 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    YOU VERY MUCH. MY GOOD FRIEND DID WHAT MANY OF US DID, HE'S MY NEIGHBOR IN…

    YOU VERY MUCH. MY GOOD FRIEND DID WHAT MANY OF US DID, HE'S MY NEIGHBOR IN LOUISIANA AND I WENT HOME TO TEXAS AND INTERACTED WITH SO MANY CONSTITUENTS, MANY OF THEM ASKING THE QUESTION -- WHY? AND I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHY NOT? LET ME TELL YOU, MY LET ME TELL YOU MY FRIENDS, WE DON'T NEED TO POLITICIZE THE DEBT CRELLING, BUT WE NEED TO TELL THE TRUTH FOR IF THE DEBT CEILING IS NOT RAISED, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL BE LOST, NOT IN THOSE OF US WHO SIT ON THIS FLOOR, BUT IN THE PORTFOLIOS AND PACKAGES FOR SENIORS AND 401-K'S. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT $1 TRILLION, TALK ABOUT WHAT WILL BE LOST TO OUR SENIORS AND HARDWORKING AMERICANS. THERE IS NO OPTION. THERE IS NOT AN OPTION FOR SHORT-TERM. THAT'S A JOKE. THAT'S POLITICS TO START UP BACK AGAIN IN APRIL OR MARCH. LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN. LET'S GET A DEFICIT REDUCTION, RAISE THE DEBT CEILING, CUT WHAT WE CAN. AND GO INTO REGULAR ORDER. THAT IS THE RESPONSIBLE, ADULT WAY TO GO. AMERICA IS WATCHING. AMERICA IS LOOKING. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND BY WHILE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE LOST. I ASK MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS TO JOIN US IN A REASONED RESPONSE.

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  • 12:16:26 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE LADIES TIME HAS EXPIRED. -- THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE LADIES TIME HAS EXPIRED. -- THE LADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE?

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  • 12:16:50 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    TO HE > YOU THIS MORNING.

  • 12:16:53 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    EQUALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.

  • 12:16:55 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    BY DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES I CAUP YOU WILL HOUSE RESOLUTION…

    BY DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES I CAUP YOU WILL HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.

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  • 12:17:05 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 59, HOUSE RESOLUTION 363, RESOLVED, THAT AT ANY TIME AFTER THE…

    NUMBER 59, HOUSE RESOLUTION 363, RESOLVED, THAT AT ANY TIME AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION, THE SPEAKER MAY, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 2-B OF RULE 18, DECLARE THE HOUSE RESOLVED INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H.R. 2584, MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE FIRST PROCEED READING OF THE BILL SHALL BE DIS-- THE FIRST READING OF THE BILL SHALL BE DISPENSED WITH. GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE CONFINED TO THE BILL AND SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE HOUR EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. AFTER GENERAL DEBATE, THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE. THE AMENDMENT PRINTED IN SECTION 2 OF THIS RESOLUTION SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS ADOPTED IN THE HOUSE AND IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST PROVISIONS IN THE BILL AS AMENDED ARE -- FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH CLAUSE 2 OF RULE 21 ARE WAIVED. DURING CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL FOR FURTHER AMENDMENT, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MAY ACCORD PRIORITY AND RECOGNITION ON THE BASIS OF WHETHER THE MEMBER OFFERING AN AMENDMENT HAS CAUSED IT TO BE PRINTED IN THE PORTION OF THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD DESIGNATED FOR THAT PURPOSE IN CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 18. AMENDMENTS SO PRINTED SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. WHEN THE COMMITTEE RISINGS AND REPORTS THE BILL -- RISES AND REPORTS THE BILL AS AMENDED BACK TO THE HOUSE WITH A RECOMMENDATION THE BILL DO PASS, THE PREVIOUS QUESTION SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS ORDERED ON THE BILL AS AMENDED AND AMENDMENTS THERETO TO FINAL PASSAGE WITHOUT INTERVENING MOTION EXCEPT ONE MOTION TO RECOMMIT, WITH OR WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS. SECTION 2, THE AMENDMENT CONSIDERED AS ADOPTED IN THE HOUSE AND IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS AS FOLLOWS. STRIKE SECTION 427.

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  • 12:19:05 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE HOUR.

  • 12:19:08 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSE OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSE OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30 MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK, MS. SLAUGHTER, PENDING WHICH I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS RESOLUTION, ALL TIME YIELDED IS FOR PURPOSE OF DEBATE ONLY. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS.

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  • 12:19:31 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 12:19:34 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES AN OPEN RULE FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584. IT…

    THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES AN OPEN RULE FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584. IT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE HOUSE TO OFFER AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE GERMANE AND COMPLY TO THE HOUSE RULES. THE RULES ALLOWS PRIORITY RECOGNITION FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PREPRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. I AM PLEASED TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION WHICH CONTINUES THE RECORD OF OUR RULES COMMITTEE IN THIS CONGRESS PROVIDING FOR OPEN AND FAIR AND ORDERLY PROCESS AS POSSIBLE. I COMMEND OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. DREIER, FOR CONTINUING THE RECORD OF FAIRNESS AND OPENNESS IN THE FORMULATION OF THIS RULE WHICH IS IN THE CONTRAST TO SOME RULES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN PAST YEARS. MADAM SPEAKER, -- MR. SPEAKER, H.R. 2584 PROVIDES $27.5 BILLION OVERALL FOR PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND THE FOREST SERVICE, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE, AND OTHER AGENCIES. BUT IT IS A BILL THAT STRIKES A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BALANCE BETWEEN PROVIDING FUNDS FOR ONGOING FEDERAL PROGRAMS WHILE ALSO SAVING THE TAXPAYERS 7% OVER LAST YEAR'S ENACTED LEVELS. PUTS US BACK ROUGHLY TO THE 2009 LEVELS. THERE ARE SOME WHO CLAIM THERE ARE CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN HURT HEAVILY. IT IS TRUE. FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS AN 18% REDUCTION IN FUNDING IN THIS BILL. PLEASE REMEMBER, THOUGH, THAT THIS WAS MADE POSSIBLE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF UNPRECEDENTEDLY HIGH RECORD APPROPRIATIONS FOR E.P.O. IN 2009 OF WHICH $3 BILLION STILL REMAINS UNOBLIGATED. IN AN ERA WHEN 42 OR 44 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND GOINGS FOR INTEREST, IT MAKES NO -- GOES FOR INTEREST, IT MAKES NO SENSE IN CONTINUOUSLY OVERAPPROPRIATING LINE ITEMS WHERE MONEY IS NOT NEEDED, USED, AND SITS THERE VACANT. THIS IS A PROGRAM, A BILL THAT OFTENTIMES FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE WEST HAS BEEN FULL OF RIDERS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. PROBABLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE HERE. BUT I REALIZE THAT SOME ARE GOING TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE. I KNOW THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THESE POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT MAY BE ON THIS BILL. WHY SHOULD SHE NOT? HER STATE ACTUALLY HAS.3% OF ITS TERRITORY -- THAT'S WRONG. IF YOU INCLUDE THE MILITARY,.8% OF NEW YORK IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I WILL CONTRAST THAT MY STATE WHICH HAS 64% OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE ARE NOT THE HIGHEST. THIS IS AN ISSUE AN A BILL THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THOSE OF US. MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS A GOOD BILL. IT IS AN EXTREMELY FAIR RULE. YOU CAN'T GET ANY FAIRER THAN THIS ONE IS. I URGE ITS ADOPTION. I'M GOING TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:22:16 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE LADY FROM NEW YORK IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE LADY FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:22:20 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THEA. UTAH, MY COLLEAGUE, FOR…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THEA. UTAH, MY COLLEAGUE, FOR YIELDING ME THE CUSTOMARY 30 MINUTES. AND I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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  • 12:22:31 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    SPEAKER, IN THESE TOUGH TIMES WE MUST MAKE CHOICE THAT IS REFLECT OUR…

    SPEAKER, IN THESE TOUGH TIMES WE MUST MAKE CHOICE THAT IS REFLECT OUR VALUES AND OUR BELIEFS THAT WE SOLVE OUR TOUGHEST PROBLEMS THROUGH SHARED SACRIFICE AND WORKING TOGETHER. UNFORTUNATELY TODAY WE CONSIDER YET ANOTHER BILL THAT IS DEVOID OF THESE VALUES. ONCE AGAIN TODAY'S LEGISLATION PLACES THE BURDEN ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHILE RELOIG THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AND LOBBYISTS WHO WALK THESE HALLS. ONE OF THE MANY RIDERS INSERTED INTO THE BILL WOULD EFFECTIVELY OPEN UP A MILLION ACRES EVER NATIONAL FOREST AND OTHER -- OF NATIONAL FOREST AND OTHER PUBLIC LAND AROUND THE GRAND CANYON. PEOPLE WANT TO MINE URANIUM THERE. DEMOCRATS HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE GRAND CANYON. AND THE EFFECT OF URANIUM MINING ON WATER QUALITY, NOT TO MENTION THAT SHOWS US AUCTIONING OFF A NATIONAL TREASURE WITH THE PROCEEDS GOING TO MOSTLY FOREIGN-OWNED ENTITIES. WHO IS IT THAT WANTS TO DRILL FOR URANIUM? RUSSIA, AND SOUTH KOREA, STATE OWNED UTILITY. IN OTHER WORDS, WE WILL GIVE UP THE GRAND CANYON AND POTABLE WATER LIKELY TO BENEFIT THE RUSSIANS AND SOUTH KOREA. AND ANY MINING THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS BILL COMES UNDER A BILL THAT WAS SIGNED BY UE LISTCIES -ULYSSES GRANT IN 186 -- 72. AT THE SAME TIME THE MAJORITY PROPOSES CRIPPLING CUTS TO THE E.P.A. THAT WILL CUT PROGRAMS THAT PROTECT OUR AIR AND WATER. THERE ARE FEW MORE IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES IN MAKING SURE WHEN WE GO TO THE KITSCH SINK THE WATER COMING OUT IS SAFE. WE KNOW A HUMAN BEING MAY LIVE AS LONG AS HE OR SHE MAY WITHOUT FOOD. FOR DAYS WITHOUT WATER F OUR NATION CAN'T PROTECT THE MOST BASIC OF LIFE NECESSITIES, WE HAVE INDEED FALLEN FAR. TODAY'S BILL WILL ALSO PROHIBIT THE USE OF GOVERNMENT MONEY TO ADD ANIMALS TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST, BUT ALLOWS THE USE OF GOVERNMENT MONEY TO TAKE SPECIES OFF THE LIST. THIS POLICY CHANGE THREATENS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND THE PROTECTION THAT IS COME WITH IT. THE MISGUIDED PRIORITIES IN THIS BILL WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT MY DISTRICT, AND MY COLLEAGUE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT. IN THE CITY I'M ELECTED TO REPRESENT. BUT NOT JUST THEM. 20% OF THE FRESH WATER ON THIS PLANET RESIDES IN THE GREAT LAKES. MOST OF US WHO LIVE AROUND THE GREAT LAKES BELIEVE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND TO PASS IT ON TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. BUT IN RECENT YEARS THE GREAT LAKES HAS BEEN INVADED BY SPECIES CARRIED INTO WATER BY FOREIGN VESSELS. NEW YORK BEING CLOSEST TO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN AND ST. LAWRENCE'WAY, THEY HAVE ENACTED STRONGER LAWS GENTS DUMPING BALANCE LIST AND THIS BILL PUN USHES US FOR DOING THAT. THE INVASIVE SPECIES ARE NOT JUST DAMAGING AN ECOSYSTEM BUT WAY OF LIFE. THE E.P.A. HAS COME TO THE AID OF THESE COMMUNITIES BY DEDICATING FUNDING TO RESTORE THE GREAT LAKES. BUT TODAY'S BILL WOULD BAR NEW YORK STATE FROM RECEIVING ANY RESTORATION FUNDING FROM THE E.P.A. AND LEAVE THE GREAT LAKES TO BE OVERRUN BY THE INVASIVE SPECIES DELIVERED OVERSEAS. ANY BILL THAT STANDS UP FOR FOREIGN SHIPPING MAGNETS BUT WON'T PROVIDE A CENT TO HELP AMERICANS SHOULD NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AND WILL NEVER RECEIVE MY VOTE. TODAY'S LEGISLATION ALSO HARMS THE ARTS. IF TODAY'S BILL TAKES EFFECT, THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS WILL HAVE LOST 20% OF ITS FUNDING IN TWO YEARS. THESE CUTS TARGET A PROGRAM THAT WORKS. IN F.Y. 2010 WE INVESTED $165.5 BILLION, REMEMBER THAT NUMBER. $167.5. FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING TO NONPROFIT ART ORGANIZATIONS. THE FUNDING CREATED 166.2 BILLION IN TOTAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. SUPPORTED 5.7 MILLION JOBS. AND GENERATED BACK FOR THE $167 MILLION, PUT BACK IN THE FEDERAL TREASURY $1.6 BILLION IN TAX REVENUES TO THE UNITED STATES TREASURY. AND THAT DOES NOT COUNT WHAT HAPPENS -- THE IMPROVEMENT TO STATE TREASURIES AND LOCAL TREASURIES. TODAY LEGISLATION TARGETS A PROGRAM PROVEN TO CREATE JOBS AND CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION. YOU WOULD THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED TO CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD WANT A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. WANT IT TO SURVIVE AND GROW. BUT, NO, HERE THEY ARE CUTTING THE BUDGET ONCE AGAIN. OUR COUNTRY IS BLESSED WITH STUNNING NATURAL BEAUTY AND A WEALTH OF NATURAL RESOURCES THAT ARE UNPARALLELED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. BUT IN ONE FINAL SWIPE AT OUR NATIONAL INTEREST, TODAY'S BILL CUTS THE BUDGET FOR LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND BY A WHOPPING 78%. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDING ENSURES THAT OUR NATIONAL TREASURES WILL BE HERE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. A MISSION THAT APPARENTLY DESERVES A 78% LESS MONEY THAN IT DID A YEAR BEFORE. A CUT LIKE THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PRIORITIES OF THE MAJORITY AND THE SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT ARE BEING SERVED. IF GETTING OUR PHYSICAL CALGARY HOUSE IN ORDER IS TRULY ABOUT SHARED SACRIFICE, THIS BILL DOES NOT REFLECT IT. WE COULD HAVE STARTED BY ASKING OIL AND GAS COMPANIES TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE AFTER PROFITING SO RICHLY FOR RESOURCES FOUND ON AMERICAN SOIL. INSTEAD THE MAJORITY INJECTED AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ASK OIL AND GAS COMPANIES TO PAY MORE SO THE NATION CAN FUND PROGRAMS THAT CLEAN UP THE MOST POLLUTED LANDS IN OUR COUNTRY. THE MAJORITY WILL NOT EVEN ALLOW THIS AMENDMENT. TODAY'S BILL ASKS NOTHING, NOTHING OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE MAKING RECORD PROFITS. INSTEAD CUTS THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND AGENCIES THAT SERVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. MR. SPEAKER, A BILL LIKE THAT DOES NOT REFLECT OUR VALUES, IS NOT UP TO THE STANDARDS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE COME TO EXPECT AND DESERVE. IT CUTS SPECIAL INTERESTS OVER OUR GENERAL WELFARE AND IT FAILS TOTALLY TO INVEST IN OUR FUTURE. WE CAN AND WE MUST DO BETTER. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    I'M PLEASED TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW YORK, THE…

    I'M PLEASED TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW YORK, THE RANKING DEMOCRAT ON WATER RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. BISHOP.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU. I THANK MY FRIEND FROM NEW YORK FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I…

    THANK YOU. I THANK MY FRIEND FROM NEW YORK FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I THANK YOU. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS RULE AND TO THE UNDERLYING BILL. AS THE---AS EVERY MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE KNOWS, THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT WE WILL DEBATE TODAY SIMPLY VIOLATES THE RULES OF THE HOUSE. UNFORTUNATELY THE RULES COMMITTEE HAS WAIVED ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST THE BILL, PREVENTING MEMBERS FROM STRIKING PROVISION THAT IS ARE CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF HOUSE RULES. IN PARTICULAR, TITLE 5 OF THE BILL INCLUDES THE REDUCING REGULATORY IN PARTICULAR THE REGULATORY BURDENS ACT OF 2011, A BILL THAT AMENDS THE CLEAN WATER ACT WHICH IS SOLELY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND THE WATER RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE OF WHICH I AM THE RANKING MEMBER. FURTHERMORE THE PROVISION AMENDS THE FEDERAL INSECT SIDE, FUNGICIDE ACT THAT IS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE HOUSE AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE. AS WE ALL KNOW, ADVANCING AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION WITHIN AN APPROPRIATIONS VEHICLE IS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS AND IT STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST TO CLAUSE 2-B OF RULE 21 OF THE HOUSE RULES WHICH STATE IN PART, A PROVISION CHANGING EXISTING LAW MAY NOT BE REPORTED IN A GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL AND YET THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT TITLE 5 IS. IT IS A CHANGE IN EXISTING LAW. NOT ONLY IS THE INCLUSION OF TITLE 5 IN THE UNDERLYING BILL A VIOLATION OF HOUSE RULES, IT'S ALSO LEGISLATIVELY REDUNDANT. THE HOUSE HAS ALREADY PASSED H.R.H. 72 EARLIER THIS YEAR UNDER SUSPENSION OF THE RULES. THE BILL IS NOW BEING CONSIDERED IN THE SENATE WHERE IT HAS BEEN REPORTED OUT OF THE SENATE AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE. IN MY OPINION INCLUDING H.R. 872 IN THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL WILL HAMPER NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN SENATORS AND BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AS A FINAL -- TO GET A FINAL BILL THAT EVERYONE CAN BE DISAPPOINTED WITH, FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE, BUT THAT CAN PASS BOTH CHAMBERS AND BE ENACTED INTO LAW BEFORE THE COURT ORDER DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 31, 2011. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. THERE IS A COURT ORDERED DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 31, 2011, TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD BE OFFERING AN AMENDMENT TO STRIKE TITLE 5 WHEN IT COMES UP DURING DEBATE THIS WEEK, HOWEVER I AM DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE HAS BLATANTLY IGNORED THE RULES OF THE HOUSE BY ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF MEMBERS TO RAISE A POINT OF ORDER AGAINST PROVISIONS OF AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT CHANGES EXISTING LAW. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 39 POLICY WRITERS INCLUDED IN THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. AND LET'S BE CLEAR. THESE ARE POLICY EARMARKS. AND THESE EARMARKS UNDERMINE THE JURISDICTION OF AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES AND UNDERMINE THE ABILITY OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE TO WORK ITS WILL. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE IS PROTECTING THESE NEW EARMARKS FROM THE RULES OF THE HOUSE. I URGE A NO VOTE ON THE RULE AND A NO VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. BISHOP

    MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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  • 12:32:52 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THIS PARTICULAR BILL IS A GREAT ILLUSTRATION OF ONE OF THE PROBABLES WE…

    THIS PARTICULAR BILL IS A GREAT ILLUSTRATION OF ONE OF THE PROBABLES WE HAVE HERE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND INDEED WITH GOVERNMENT. OUR LAND POLICY IN THE UNITED STATES IS ONE HISTORICALLY THAT HAD NO PURPOSE OR ORGANIZATION TO IT, IT SIMPLY HAPPENED. BUT WHAT HAPPENED HAPPENED DISPROPORTIONATELY THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. WHICH IS WHY ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE ACRES IN AMERICA IS NOW OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I DEFY ANYONE ON THAT SIDE TO FIND FOR ME A CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT OWNERSHIP, BUT NONETHELESS IT IS. THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS IT IS DISPROPORTION. ONE OUT OF EVERY TWO ACRES IN THE WEST IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT MEANS 52% OF THE AREA WEST OF DENVER IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 4% OF THE AREA EAST OF DENVER IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. MUCH OF THAT IN MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. AS I SAID, THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS.3% OF ITS LAND OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,.8% IF YOU INCLUDE MILITARY. STATE OF VIRGINIA HAS 8% OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ALMOST ALL MILITARY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WHO WILL BE HERE AS WELL, 1.1% OF THEIR STATE IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO IT MEANS DIFFERENT ISSUES FOR MY STATE, WHICH IS A 65% OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ALASKA, NEVADA WHICH IS ALMOST 90% OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IDAHO WHICH IS OVER 60% OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THINGS TAKE PLACE DIFFERENTLY. THAT'S WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS LIKE THE LAND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, IT'S A NICE FUND IF IT WAS USED TO PRESERVE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. UNFORTUNATELY THAT FUND IS USED TO BUY MORE TERRITORY. WITH ADMINISTRATION DECISION AND MINDSET THAT IS NO LAND SHOULD EVER BE GIVEN BACK OR UP, MORE SHOULD BE ACCUMULATED. THAT'S WHY THE ABILITY OF THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL TO TRY AND PUT THAT MONEY NOT SIMPLY TO CUT IT BUT TO MOVE IT INTO PRESERVATION AS OPPOSED TO ACCESS TO BUYING MORE LAND MAKES SENSE TO US IN THE WEST. BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THIS HEAVYHANDED TYRANNY THAT TAKES PLACE. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE. AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE THAT DEALS WITH URANIUM MINING IN ARIZONA, ONE OF THESE SO-CALLED WRITERS IN THIS PARTICULAR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. TAKES PLACE IN WHAT IS CALLED THE ARIZONA STRIP WHICH HAS LED SOME PEOPLE TO MISTAKENLY THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE STRIP MINING AROUND THE GRAND CANYON. THE ARIZONA STRIP IS THE SIZE OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY BUT THAT IS THE AREA BETWEEN UTAH AND COLORADO RIVER. IN THAT AREA IN 1984 MORRIS UDALL WHO WAS AT THE TIME THE SECRETARY OF THE RESOURCE COMMITTEE HERE -- SORRY, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE HERE IN THE HOUSE CREATED A WILDERNESS COMPROMISE IN WHICH WILDERNESS AREA WAS CREATED IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA. 56% OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA WAS PUT OFFLIMITS TO ANY KIND OF MINING ENDEAVORS WHATSOEVER. IN EXCHANGE CERTAIN AREAS WERE PUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE TYPE OF MINING AREAS INCLUDING AREAS IN THE ARIZONA STRIP, THIS NEW JERSEY-SIZED PIECE OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA. THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE USED THERE FOR MINING PURPOSES BECAUSE THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF URANIUM-ORE THERE. UNLIKE OTHER KINDS OF MINING, THIS ORE IS FOUND IN LITTLE PIPES, STRIPS WITHIN THE GROUND THAT GO UP AND DOWN. AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SIMPLY TO BORE INTO THE PIPE, FIND THE ORE IN THE MIDDLE, TAKE IT OUT AND REPLACE ALL THE STUFF BACK IN, SO ONCE ARE YOU DONE WITH THAT MINE, NO ONE EVER SEES THAT IT WAS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE ORE THAT IS TAKEN OUT IS NOT LEFT IN ARIZONA, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SHIPPED FOR PROCESSING SOMEWHERE ELSE SO, THERE WILL BE NO TAILINGS, THERE WILL BE NO WIND POLLUTION, THERE WILL BE NO DUST ISSUES WHATSOEVER. CERTAIN SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS SAID, WELL, IT COULD CHANGE THE WATER QUALITY THAT GOES THROUGH COLORADO AND THEN WOULD EVENTUALLY FLOW TO LAS VEGAS AND DO SOMETHING STRANGE IN LAS VEGAS, AS IF THAT WERE EVER POSSIBLE. UNFORTUNATELY AS STATED BY THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, THE MINING GROUPS, THERE HAVE BEEN CERTAIN GROUPS THAT HAVE INFERRED WITH NO SUBSTANTIVE SUPPORTING DATA THAT GROUNDWATER IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE COLORADO RIVER MAY BE CONTAMINATED BY URANIUM MINING. THAT SIMPLY WON'T HAPPEN AND IT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OF WHERE THE ORE IS. THE ORE IS FOUND 100 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE. THERE IS ONLY 12 INCHES OF RAIN A YEAR, THERE IS NO PARTICULAR KIND OF ANY RUNOFF THAT TAKES PLACE. IT'S ALSO FOUND 1,000 FEET ABOVE THE AQUA FERRE WHICH CLAY UNDERNEATH SO THERE IS NO WAY THERE CAN BE ANY KIND OF LEASHING THAT GOES INTO THE AQUAFER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY KIND OF TAMS ON THWART WHICH WAS THE EX -- TAMS ON THIS WATER WHICH WAS THE EXCUSE USED TO PROVIDE POLITICAL USE REASON FOR TAKING THIS LAND OFF THE TABLE AND IT COULD NOT BE USED AGAIN. UNFORTUNATELY THE E.P.A. GETS INVOLVED IN THIS ONE AGAIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE DETERMINED THAT IF URANIUM OR WHATEVER THEY CALL URANIUM GETS INTO THE WATER AND IT'S MORE THAN 30 PARTS BER BILLION, THAT'S UNSAFE. UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE URANIUM PIPES WITHIN THE GRAND CANYON ITSELF WHICH ALREADY ERODE INTO THE WATER TANNED CREATES A SITUATION WHERE THARL -- WATER AND IT CREATES A SITUATION WHERE NATURALLY OCCURRING THERE ARE FOUR PARTS PER BILLION. THEY DID SOME TESTING TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF ACTUALLY SOME OF THIS URANIUM WERE TO LEECH INTO THE WATER AND IT WOULD INCREASE THAT FOUR NUMBER TO SIX PARTS PER BILLION. IN ESSENCE WHAT THEY ARE SAY SOMETHING YOU COULD TAKE ALL OF THE TAILINGS THAT COULD COME FROM THESE POTENTIAL MINES AND DUMP THEM INTO THE COLORADO RIVER AND YOU STILL WOULD NOT REACH THE LEVEL SET BY THE E.P.A. FOR DRINKING WATER. IN FACT, THE URANIUM THAT NATURALLY OCCURS IN THE COLORADO RIVER, EVEN IF YOU HAD A CATASTROPHE, IS STILL LOWER THAN URANIUM LEVELS FOUND IN FRESHWATER LAKES IN THE DESERT AREA. NOW, WHY ISN'T ALL THAT CONSIDERED? BECAUSE THE DECISION TO WITHDRAW THAT AREA FROM MINING WAS NOT BASED ON SCIENCE, IF IT WAS BASED ON SCIENCE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OF ARIZONA WOULD NOT HAVE TESTIFIED THAT THERE WAS NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR IT, THE STATE OF ARIZONA WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED A LETTER -- A PIECE OF LEGISLATION DECRYING THE WITHDRAWAL OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THE GUY WHO WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE NATIONAL PARKS CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE AUTOBAHN SOCIETY AND THE SAFE OF REDWOODS LEAGUE WHO IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT DID THE SCIENTIFIC STUDY IN 1984 WHEN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS MADE, SIMPLY SAID THERE WAS NO LEGITIMATE EVIDENCE TO SAY THERE COULD BE ANY CONTAMINATION THERE WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THE WITHDRAWAL OF THIS LAND WAS DONE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, NOT SCIENTIFIC PURPOSES. SO TO PUT A PROVISION BACK INTO THIS BILL SAYING THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS KIND OF STUFF IT DARN WELL BETTER BE ON A SCIENTIFIC BASIS AND NOT A POLITICAL BASIS MAKES SENSE. IT'S ONE OF THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO IN HERE. I REALIZE WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS IN HERE SO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ALL THE TIME BUT I WOULD DESPERATELY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CLEAN WATER PROVISIONS, NASKGABBLE WATER PROVISIONS AND WHAT E.P.A. DOES WITH THOSE BECAUSE IT HAS A DIFFERENT IMPACT ON THOSE OF US IN THE WEST WHERE ALMOST ALL OF OUR LAND IS CONTROLLED BY THEM VERSUS THOSE IN THE EAST WHERE ALMOST NO LAND IS CONTROLLED BY THEM AND THEY HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF FREEDOM TO DEVELOP THE RESOURCES ON THEIR OWN. WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WILL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 12:40:25 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND FOR A MINUTE BEFORE I…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND FOR A MINUTE BEFORE I YIELD TO MR. MCGOVERN, I HAVE AN ARTICLE SAYING THAT THE PREVIOUS ALLOWING OF URANIUM MINING HAS CAUSED GREAT DAMAGE, THIS WATERSHED GIVES WATER TO 26 MILLION PEOPLE AND HAS 90% OF THEIR WATER. AS IT IS, LET ME QUOTE FROM THE PAPER, THE COLORADO RIVER IS ALREADY ENDANGERED BY THE URANIUM MINES WHICH THE GENTLEMAN FROM HAS TALKED ABOUT IS NOT HURTING ANYBODY AT ALL, THEY SIT IN THE WATERSHED, SOME PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO THE WATER. THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT PREVENT MINING CLAIMS FROM BEING DEVELOPED, THERE ARE OVER 3,500 OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN, THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT 3,500. ADDING TO THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE URANIUM TO REACH THE WATER DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS SHOULD STOP TRYING TO REPEAL THE MORATORIUM AND SHOULD INSTEAD WORK TO PROTECT THE GRAND CANYON AND THE COLORADO RIVER, MAKE NOES SENSE TO PUT DRINKING WATER AT RISK. I WILL PUT THAT IN THE RECORD IF I MAY, ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT, AND "THE NEW YORK TIMES," JUNE 28, MINING IN THE CANYON, AN EDITORIAL, AND ABSOLUTELY HARM IS BEING DONE. I'M PLEASED NOW TO YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MAYBE OF THE RULES COMMITTEE, MR. MCGOVERN.

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  • 12:41:51 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER, MS. SLAUGHTER, FOR…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER, MS. SLAUGHTER, FOR YIELDING ME THE TIME. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO OPPOSE THIS RULE AND THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN, AGES 13 AND 10, AND ONE OF OUR FAVORITE THINGS TO DO AS A FAMILY IS TO GO HIKING AND WE HAVE HIKED ALL OVER THIS GREAT COUNTRY. WE HAVE A LOVE AND A RESPECT FOR OUR OPEN SPACES AND FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT AND UNFORTUNATELY THE REPUBLICANS' FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL THROWS THAT INTO GRAVE DANGER. THIS INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL REPRESENTS AN UNPRECEDENTED DEPARTURE FROM OUR NATION'S DECADES-LONG BIPARTISAN COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING OUR SHARED ENVIRONMENT, MAGNIFICENT NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR CHERISHED CULTURAL TREASURES. IT'S A SHAME THAT MY REPUBLICANS COLLEAGUE PRIORITIZE TAX BREAKS AND INCENTIVES FOR HIGHLY PROFITABLE OIL COMPANIES OVER THE GRAND CANYON, THE CAPE COD NATIONAL SEA SHORE, STATE PARKS AND EVEN PUBLIC HEALTH. MR. SPEAKER, I COULD BE HERE ALL DAY TALKING ABOUT THE HARMFUL CUTS AND MISPLACED PRIORITIES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL. FROM THE MORE THAN 25 POLICY WRITERS THAT DO NOT BELONG IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL, THAT DO EVERYTHING FROM GUTTING THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT TO ALLOWING URANIUM DRILLING BY FOREIGN COMPANIES ALONGSIDE THE GRAND CANYON, TO THE HARSH CUTS IN E.P.A. FUNDING THAT WILL RESULT IN MILLIONS OF AMERICANS BEING EXPOSED TO DIRTIER AIR AND DIRTIER WATER, I GIVE MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES CREDIT. THEY'VE LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED IN THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSAULT. UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, THAT STONE WILL BE COVERED IN TOXIC ALGAE, COAL ASH AND POLLUTED WATER IF THEY HAVE THEIR WAY. ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS CUTS IN THIS BILL IS THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND HAS BEEN ONE OF THE GREATEST CONSERVATION SUCCESS STORIES OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS, PROTECTING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF LAND AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. STATES RELY ON THIS FUNDING AND DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO ITS VALUE BY PROVIDING MATCHING FUNDS FOR STATE PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND HAS A DEDICATED SOURCE OF FUNDING DERIVED FROM OIL AND GAS LEASING AND THE OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF AND IS AUTHORIZED TO ACCUMULATE $900 MILLION ANNUALLY FROM ITS DEDICATED SOURCES. NONETHELESS MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS FORGET ALL OF THIS AND STILL SLASH THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND FUNDING BY 78% FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THIS REPRESENTS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF FUNDING IN THE 45-YEAR HISTORY OF THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. WHAT'S MOST TROUBLING IS THAT IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ACKNOWLEDGE THE ENORMOUS VALUE OF THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND BUT THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD AND DECIMATE ITS BUDGET. THE BILL ALSO CUTS CLEAN WATER AND SAFE DRINKING WATER GRANT PROGRAMS BY NEARLY 40%, THREATENING AMERICANS' ABILITY TO ACCESS CLEAN WATER AND ADDING TO THE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG OF SAFE DRINKING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. I KNOW IT'S POLITICALLY POPULAR TO DEMONIZE THE E.P.A. RIGHT NOW. AT TIMES I HAVE HAD MY OWN STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE E.P.A. ON CERTAIN ISSUES, BUT THIS INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL IS NOT THE WAY TO MEANINGFUL ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE DISAGREEMENTS. THIS BILL PUTS THE PRIORITIES OF SPECIAL INTERESTS AND SCORING CHEAP POLITICAL POINTS OVER PUBLIC HEALTH AND NATURAL RESOURCES. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. MR. SPEAKER, I REALIZE THAT THESE ARE TOUGH BUDGETARY TIMES, BUT WHAT TUBBLES ME ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS' APPROACH TO THIS APPROPRIATION PROCESS IS THAT SO MANY OF THEIR CUTS ARE AIMED AT PROGRAMS THAT WILL LOWER THE STANDARD OF LIVING AND LESSEN THE YOU QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. THIS PROCESS, THIS APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS SHOULD BE ABOUT LIFTING PEOPLE UP NOT PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN. AND IT SHOULD BE ABOUT A DECENT RESPECT FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND IT'S CERTAINLY A RESPECT FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT OVER CORPORATE SPECIAL INTERESTS. MR. SPEAKER, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES. THAT UM PACT EVERY SINGLE PERSON -- THAT IMPACT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS BILL UNDERMINES OUR HISTORIC BIPARTISAN COMMITMENT TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS RULE AND THE UNDERLYING BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:46:28 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    NEWSPAPER ARTICLES WERE PUT INTO THE RECORD BECAUSE THE NEWSPAPERS HAVE A…

    NEWSPAPER ARTICLES WERE PUT INTO THE RECORD BECAUSE THE NEWSPAPERS HAVE A TENDENCY OF QUOTING ONE ANOTHER AND QUOTING ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE DATA STILL SAYS THE SAME THING FROM THOSE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE -- THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY THAT ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WHO SAID A FEW ENVIRONMENT GROUPS CLAIM WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY SCIENTIFIC SUPPORTING DATA THAT THE GROUND WATER IN THE COLORADO WOULD BE CONTAMINATED WITH URANIUM MINING. WE CONCLUDE EVEN THE MOST INPLAUSIBLE ACCIDENT WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT BY AN AMOUNT THAT'S UNDETECTIBLE OVER THOSE CARRIED NORMALLY. THAT I COULD CONTINUE TO VIEW SUCH ACTIVITIES AS POSING NO CREDIBLE THREAT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HARM TO EITHER THE GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK OR THE COLORADO RIVER THAT FLOWS THROUGH IT. I SEE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR 1.1 MILLION ACRE WITHDRAWAL FROM MINERAL ENTRIES LAND NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PARK. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE UNITED STATES GEOGRAPHICAL SURVEY AND PRELIMINARY FINDINGS CONFIRM URANIUM EXPLORATION AND MINING POSE NO THREAT. THIS IS THE STUDY. THIS IS THE SCIENTIFIC DATA. IT WOULD BE NICE IF FOR ONCE WE USED THIS DATA INSTEAD OF QUOTING NUN ANOTHER AND QUOTING THINGS THAT HAVE NO BASIS IN SCIENCE. WITH THAT I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, A MEMBER OF THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE.

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    WHEREAS CERTIFIED SUSTAINABLE STATE FORESTS TAKE LESS THAN TWO YEARS. AND…

    WHEREAS CERTIFIED SUSTAINABLE STATE FORESTS TAKE LESS THAN TWO YEARS. AND CERTIFIED SUSTAINABLE COUNTY FORESTS TAKE UP A YEAR. BASICALLY IT COMES DOWN TO JOBS IN MY DISTRICT. WE HAVE A LOT OF FEDERAL LAND IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN. AND PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT DEPEND ON THE TIMBER INDUSTRY FOR JOBS. EVERY LITTLE TOWN HAS A MILL, A FLOORING MILL. JOBS. HIGH-PAYING JOBS. AND THE FRUSTRATION THAT COMES FROM HAVING A TIMBER -- FOREST FULL OF TIM PERFECT BEING UNABLE TO HARVEST IT BECAUSE OF ONEROUS REGULATIONS AND RULES RESULTS IN A LESS HEALTHY FOREST AND LESS JOBS FOR NORTHERN MICHIGAN. WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO RESPONSIBLY HARVEST TIMBER IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN AND ELSEWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD START. I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE JOBS IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN. I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.

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    MR. BENISHEK

    MICHIGAN. I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN YIELDS BACK. THE LADY FROM NEW YORK.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. LET ME YIELD MYSELF 30 SECONDS BEFORE I YIELD FIVE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. LET ME YIELD MYSELF 30 SECONDS BEFORE I YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO MR. MARKEY. WE ARE ALWAYS BEING TOLD WHAT JUNK SCIENCE IN HERE, I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I REALLY THINK THAT THE SCIENCE IS VERY STRONG AND THANK GOODNESS THERE'S A MORATORIUM ON THIS MINING AROUND THE GRAND CANYON. I'M PLEASED TO YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WHO WILL MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, MR. MARKEY.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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    MR. MARKEY

    I THANK THE GENTLELADY VERY MUCH. THIS SPENDING BILL REPRESENTS ONE OF THE…

    I THANK THE GENTLELADY VERY MUCH. THIS SPENDING BILL REPRESENTS ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS ASSAULTS ON OUR NATION'S ENVIRONMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS, OUR AIR WILL BE SMOGGIER. OUR CLIMATE WILL BE HOTTER. OUR WATER WILL BE MORE POLLUTED. OUR PUBLIC LANDS WILL BECOME MORE DESS SPOILED. SIM -- DESPOILED. SIMPLY PUT, THIS LEGISLATION IS SO TOXIC, H.R. 2584 IS SO TOXIC THAT YOU BETTER HANDLE IT WEARING A HAZMAT SUIT. BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FUTURE ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST THE ENVIRONMENT IN OUR COUNTRY THAT YOU HAVE TO HANDLE THIS BILL WITH EXTREME CARE. THE ACTUAL TITLE OF THIS BILL IS INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2012. BUT IT COULD BE CALLED, THE HAVE THE REPUBLICANS BEEN OUTSIDE ACT? IT IS HOT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IT IS HOT. THE WORLD IS WARMING. ALL OF THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN POINTING IN THIS DIRECTION FOR DECADES AND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IT ON A DAILY BASIS. IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THIS BILL STARTS WITH THE WORD INTERIOR, BECAUSE ONLY THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE BEEN COUPED UP INSIDE FOR WEEKS DEBATING WHETHER TO CRATER OUR ECONOMY COULD POSSIBLY IGNORE WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE IN OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. THE WEATHER FORECASTERS SAID WE WERE TRAPPED UNDER A HEAT DOME LAST WEEK. WELL, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY UNDER THIS CAPITOL DOME WOULD COMMIT US TO EVEN MORE DANGEROUS HEAT IF THIS BILL PASSES AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS BILL BANS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FROM INCREASING THE FUEL ECONOMY STANDARDS OF THE VEHICLES WHICH WE DRIVE IN OUR COUNTRY. WHICH WILL BASICALLY PUT THE BRAKES ON THE ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE, PLUG-IN HYBRID REVOLUTION. NOW, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THE AUTO INDUSTRY WANTS. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THE OIL INDUSTRY WANTS. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE CARS BECOME MORE AND MORE EFFICIENT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSUME ALL THAT OIL SO THAT WE CAN TELL OPEC WE DON'T NEED THEIR OIL ANYMORE THAN WE NEED THEIR SAND. BUT IN THIS BILL THEY ACTUALLY BAN THE E.P.A. FROM APPROVING THE FUEL ECONOMY STANDARDS OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE DRIVE AND THEY BAN ALL 50 STATES FROM IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF THE VEHICLES WHICH WE DRIVE. AND HOW ELSE COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT THIS BILL WOULD INCREASE SMOG AND DIRTY AIR DAYS IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS LIVING IN THEIR OWN WORLD. WHEN FAMILIES ARE PLANNING THEIR SUMMER TRIPS TO EXPLORE OUR NATIONAL PARKS, HOW ELSE COULD YOU EXPLAIN A BILL THAT ALLOWS FOR MINING OF NUCLEAR FUEL URANIUM NEAR GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK? UNDER THIS BILL WHEN FAMILIES GO TO ENJOY THE SUNSET ACROSS THE CANYON, IT WON'T JUST BE THE SUN THAT'S CAUSING THE GLOW, BUT THE RADIATION AS WELL FROM THE URANIUM MINING. AND WHEN AMERICANS ARE CANCELING VACATIONS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY FOR GAS, HOW ELSE CAN YOU EXPLAIN A BILL THAT WOULD TELL AUTO COMPANIES TO STOP MAKING MORE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS AND TRUCKS? IF YOU LIVE IN AN AIR CONDITIONED MANSION WITH AN INDOOR POOL AND YOU HAVE YOUR BOTTLED WATER DELIVERED, THEN THIS BILL MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO YOU. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALSO WORK FOR THE OIL, COAL MINING, OR CHEMICAL INDUSTRIES. FOR THOSE INDUSTRIES THIS BILL REPRESENTS THEIR SUMMER VACATION FROM REGULATION. FOR THE REST OF US IT IS A ONE-WAY TICKET TO THE A DIRTIER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE A TOUGH TIME RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. BUT WITH THIS BILL, THEY ARE PROVING TO HAVE NO RESERVATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RAISING THE DEATH CEILING. WITH MORE POLLUTION IN OUR AIR, IN OUR WATER, MAKING US LESS HEALTHY, MAKING US MORE LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO CONTRACT DISEASES THAT WE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE. IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS WANT TO TAKE MEDICARE AWAY FROM GRANDMA, BUT NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE THE AIR SHE AND HER GRANDKIDS BREATHE AND THE WATER THEY DRINK MORE POLLUTED. THIS BILL WOULD CAUSE MORE PREMATURE DEATHS, MORE ASTHMA, MORE HARM TO CHILDREN FROM TOXINS LIKE MERCURY. YEAH, THEY DON'T WANT TO LIFT THE DEBT CEILING. BUT THEY WILL BE LIFTING THE DEATH CEILING BECAUSE OF THE EXPOSURE TO THESE CHEMICALS AND POLLUTANTS. VOTE NO ON THE REPUBLICAN APPROPRIATION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    MR. BISHOP

    I KNOW THAT WHAT WE DO HERE ON THE FLOOR IS OFTEN RIVETING DRAMA FROM…

    I KNOW THAT WHAT WE DO HERE ON THE FLOOR IS OFTEN RIVETING DRAMA FROM THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON TELEVISION, LET ME IN SUM RESPECTS NOT TRY TO ADD TO THAT DRAMA AND GO BACK TO FACTS. SOMETHING WE DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE AROUND HERE. WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS SO-CALLED URANIUM ISSUE SHOWING FACTS. THE CHART WE JUST SAW FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WAS AN INTERESTING CHART. THE AREA OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WAS COLORED ON THAT CHART IS THE AREA THERE ARE THOSE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, INDEED ON THIS FLOOR, WANT TO BE OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE. LET ME TALK TO YOU JUST A MOMENT, I'LL EVEN GRANT SOME TIME TO THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK IF SHE COULD ACTUALLY ANSWER THIS ONE, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THESE ISSUES DO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE UNDER WHAT NELSON ROCKEFELLER CALLED THE DEADENING HAND OF BUREAUCRACY. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN IN THE EAST YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE SITUATIONS. IN THE WEST WE DO. LET ME TALK TO THAT SIMPLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND SOME OF THE BRILLIANT THINGS THEY DO IN THE NAME OF TRYING TO CLEAN UP OUR WATER AND OUR AIR AND MAKE LIFE MORE LIVABLE FOR US. ONE OF THE SUBURBS OF MY COMMUNITY, AND I CALL IT A SUBURB SIMPLY BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY ONLY HAS 18,000 PEOPLE IN IT. I LIKE CALLING THEM A SUBURB. HAS NO RIVERS, NO CREEKS, NO STREAMS, NO ANYTHING. IT DOES HAVE IRRIGATION DITCHES STARTING AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN THE IRRIGATION WATER FLOWS DOWN SO IT COVERS ALL THE FIELDS. AS NORMALLY YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO. WE PASSED LEGISLATION ALLOWING FOR THE CLEAN WATER ACT, ALLOWING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY THE E.P.A., TO COME IN AND MONITOR WATER THAT IS NAVIGABLE WATER SYSTEMS ON INTERSTATE COMMERCE. GREAT LAKE IN UTAH IS ALL CONFINED IN THE STATE OF UTAH. THERE ARE NO OUTLETS. THAT'S WHY IT IS SALTY. THERE IS NOTHING MORE INTRANAVIGABLE THAN THE GREAT LAKE BUT BECAUSE IN THE 1808'S SOME OF THE PIONEERS USED TO SHIP SHEEP OVER THERE ON THE ISLANDS, IT IS NOW PART OF THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE SYSTEM AND PART OF THE NAVIGABLE WATER SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES, THEREFORE CONTROLLABLE BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. NOW, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY DID IN MY PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. IN THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THERE WERE IRRIGATION DITCHES, THE OVERFLOW FROM THE IRRIGATION DITCHES RAN DOWN AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY SAID THE RUNOFF FROM THOSE IRRIGATION DITCHES WOULD EVENTUALLY GO INTO THE GREAT LAKE, THEREFORE THAT RUNOFF FROM A DITCH WAS PART OF THE NAVIGABLE WATER SYSTEMS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CONTROLLABLE AS WETLANDS BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. EVEN THOUGH THAT IRRIGATION RUNOFF TO GET TO THE GREAT LAKE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO RUN DOWN THE MOUNTAIN, THROUGH A CULVERT FOR THE CITY ROAD, THROUGH ONE FOR THE TRAIN TRACKS, THROUGH ONE THAT WAS THE SIDE ROAD OF THE FREEWAY, THROUGH THE NORTHBOUND FREEWAY, THROUGH THE BARREL PIT, THROUGH THE SOUTHBOUND FREEWAY, THROUGH ANOTHER ONE OF THE ROADS TO THE SOUTHBOUND FREEWAY, UP A 3% GRADE TO AN AREA THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED TO BE NOT A WETLANDS AREA AND INTO THE BEAR RIVER SYSTEM WHICH WAS STOPPED FROM GOING TO THE GREAT LAKE BY THE BEAR RIVER BIRD REFUGE. THEY CLAIM THAT COULD HAPPEN. AND BECAUSE OF THAT THE WATER FROM THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM WAS NAVIGABLE WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CLAIMED JURISDICTION OVER IT. WHICH MEANT THAT THE CITIZENS OF THAT COMMUNITY COULD NOT EXPAND THEIR SEWER SYSTEM. INSTEAD THEY HAD TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS TO SHIP THEIR SEWAGE EITHER TO BRINK BRIGHAM CITY OR OTHERS BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE NAVIGABLE WATERS BECAUSE WE GAVE THEM THE POW TORE DO THAT UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE AND ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS WE HAD ILLUSTRATED BY THIS BILL IS UNFORTUNATELY TIME AFTER TIME THESE AGENCIES FUNDED IN THIS BILL DO NOT CONSIDER WHAT THEY DO TO REAL PEOPLE. REAL PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY ARE BEING HARMED TIME AFTER TIME BY DECISIONS MADE FROM BUREAUCRATS SITTING HERE IN WASHINGTON AND THEN WE WONDER WHY WE RAIL AGAINST THESE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS? WHY WE RAIL AGAINST THESE AGENCIES? AND WHY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER THIS PROCESS AND THE ONLY VEHICLE WE SEEM TO HAVE IS THE APPROPRIATION BILL? THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDING IS USED TO BUY MORE LAND TO GET MORE CONTROL. IF IT WERE NOT, WE WOULD NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. THE E.P.A. IS USED TO GET MORE CONTROL OVER PEOPLE'S LIFE AND THEY HURT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS. SO WE ARE -- SO WE WOULD NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM. THE WITHDRAWING OF URANIUM MINING ON THE ARIZONA STRIP WAS DONE DESPITE ALL THE SCIENTIFIC TESTIMONY FOR POLITICAL REASONS. WERE IT NOT DONE SO WE WOULD NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. THIS IS A DECENT BILL WHICH MOVES US A STEP FORWARD TO CONTROL OUR SPENDING HABIT, DEALING WITH WHAT IS REALLY THE CORE ISSUES AND CORE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR AGENCIES. AND TRYING NOT TO HARM PEOPLE. . I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    SPEAKER, I HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME AND MAY I INQUIRE OF MY…

    SPEAKER, I HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME AND MAY I INQUIRE OF MY COLLEAGUE IF HE HAS FURTHER SPEAKERS?

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  • 01:01:00 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    MAY I INQUIRE HOW MUCH TIME ACTUALLY REMAINS?

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH HAS 11 MINUTES AND THE LADY FROM NEW YORK HAS NINE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH HAS 11 MINUTES AND THE LADY FROM NEW YORK HAS NINE MINUTES. REMAINING.

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  • 01:01:12 PM

    MR. BISHOP

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I AM WILLING TO CLOSE.

  • 01:01:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    MR. SPEAKER, I THINK WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THIS BILL CONTAINS AN…

    MR. SPEAKER, I THINK WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THIS BILL CONTAINS AN ASTONISHING ARRAY OF DEVASTATING CUTTING AND SPECIAL INTEREST WRITERS THAT JEOPARDIZE THE WATER WE DRINK, THE AIR WE BREATHE AND OUR COUNTRY'S NATIONAL HERITAGE. I URGE A NO VOTE ON THE RULE AND THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THINK WE'VE ALSO PROVED IN THIS BILL THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT…

    THINK WE'VE ALSO PROVED IN THIS BILL THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO TRY AND CONTROL THE EXCESSES THAT CONTINUOUSLY TAKE PLACE HERE AND STILL MAINTAIN THE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAVE TO BE THERE AND WE HAVE DONE IT IN A RULE THAT IS ADAMANTLY FAIR, IT IS AN OPEN RULE THAT WILL ALLOW ANYONE TO BRING ANYTHING DOWN HERE TO THE FLOOR UNTIL WE DO AN AGREEMENT THAT STOPS IT. IT'S A GOOD RULE, I URGE YOUR ADOPTION OF THAT PARTICULAR RULE. IN CLOSING, I WILL ONCE AGAIN REITERATE THE FAIRNESS OF THIS OPEN RULE, I URGE ITS ADOPTION, I URGE THE ADOPTION OF THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND I MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ALL TIME HAVING BEEN YIELDED BACK, WITHOUT OBJECTION THE PREVIOUS QUESTION…

    ALL TIME HAVING BEEN YIELDED BACK, WITHOUT OBJECTION THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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  • 01:02:54 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THIS HURTS. I DEMAND THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION ARE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

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  • 01:03:22 PM

    MRS. BIGGERT

    MR. SPEAKER, I OFFER A PRIVILEGED RESOLUTION AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE…

    MR. SPEAKER, I OFFER A PRIVILEGED RESOLUTION AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RESOLUTION.

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    THE CLERK

    368, RESOLVED THAT THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REQUESTS THE…

    368, RESOLVED THAT THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REQUESTS THE SENATE TO RETURN TO THE HOUSE THE BILL H.R. 1309 ENTITLED AN ACT TO EXTEND THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, TO ACHIEVE REFORMS TO IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL INTEGRITY AND STABILITY OF THE PROGRAM, AND TO INCREASE THE ROLE OF PRIVATE MARKETS AND THE MANAGEMENT OF FLOOD INSURANCE RISK AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE RESOLUTION IS AGREED TO AND THE MOTION TO…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE RESOLUTION IS AGREED TO AND THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, PROCEEDINGS NOW WILL RESUME ON QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY POSTPONED AS FOLLOWS, FIRST, ADOPTIONING -- ADOPTING RESOLUTION 363 AND, SECOND, AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. FIRST VOTE WILL BE A 15-MINUTE VOTE. THE SECOND VOTE WILL BE A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR WILL MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT. THE CHAIR WILL REMIND THE…

    THE CHAIR WILL MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT. THE CHAIR WILL REMIND THE HOUSE THAT ON JULY 24, 1998, AT 3:40 P.M., OFFICER JACOB J. CHESTNUT AND DETECTIVE JOHN M. GIBSON OF THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL POLICE WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, DEFENDING THE CAPITOL AGAINST AN INTRUDER ARMED WITH A GUN. AT 3:40 P.M. TODAY THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE ANNIVERSARY OF THIS TRAGEDY BY OBSERVING A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN THEIR MEMORY. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 ON WHICH THE YEAS AND NAYS WERE ORDERED. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 59, HOUSE RESOLUTION 363, RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF…

    NUMBER 59, HOUSE RESOLUTION 363, RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H.R. 2584, MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 205, THE NAYS ARE 131. THE RESOLUTION ADOPTED.…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 205, THE NAYS ARE 131. THE RESOLUTION ADOPTED. -- THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE QUESTION ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. ON WHICH THE YEAS AND NAYS AND NAYS WERE ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 233. THE NOES ARE 108 WITH TWO MEMBERS VOTING…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 233. THE NOES ARE 108 WITH TWO MEMBERS VOTING PRESENT. THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS, PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OFF THE FLOOR. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 01:47:27 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    SPEAKER, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE…

    SPEAKER, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL ON H.R. 2584 AND THAT I MAY INCLUDE TABULAR MATERIAL ON THE SAME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2484. THE CHAIR APPOINTS THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. CAMPBELL, TO PROSIDE OVER THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. -- PRESIDE OVER THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. H.R. 2584.

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  • 01:48:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE…

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 01:48:29 PM

    THE CLERK

    DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE…

    DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 01:48:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME. THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO, MR. SIMPSON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. MORAN, EACH WILL CONTROL 30 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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  • 01:48:57 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PLEASED TO BRING TO THE FLOOR THE 2584 THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PLEASED TO BRING TO THE FLOOR THE 2584 THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS BILL. AS WE BEGIN I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK MR. MORAN, MR. DICKS AND EACH MEMBER OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THEIR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION AND BIPARTISAN SPIRIT. REGARDLESS OF OUR POSITIONS ON THIS BILL I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THEIR CONSTRUCTIVE CONTRIBUTIONS. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BORROWS MORE THAN 40 CENTS ON EACH DOLLAR IT SPENDS. WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME OF RECORD DEFICITS AND DEBT. WHILE REDUCTIONS IN DISCRETIONARY SPENDING ALONE WILL NOT TOTALLY ERASE THE DEFICIT WE KNOW THAT REDUCING FEDERAL SPENDING IS THE FIRST STEP. THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENT BILL IS FUNDED AT $27.5 BILLION WHICH IS 7% BELOW THE F.Y. 2011 ENACTED LEVEL AND $3.8 BILLION OR 12% BELOW THE BUDGET REQUEST. FUNDING IN THIS YEAR IS WITH 2009 SPENDING. THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS MADE SOME VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES IN PREPARING THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL. IN TOTAL 235 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE SUBMITTED OVER 1,700 PROGRAMMATIC REQUESTS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION. WHILE IT MAKES SIGNIFICANT SPENDING REDUCTIONS ACROSS MANY AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS, IT PROVIDES AMPLE FUNDING TO ADDRESS KEY ACCOUNTS SUPPORTED BY A BIPARTISAN CROSS-SECTION OF MEMBERS. FOR INSTANCE, FIRE SUPPRESSION AT THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR IS FULLY FUNDED AT THE 10-YEAR AVERAGE. THE BILL INCLUDES $37 MILLION INCREASE OVER FISCAL YEAR 2011 FOR THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT TO HIRE NEW INSPECTORS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OFFSHORE OIL GAS AND OIL PERMITTING. AND THE OPERATIONS OF OUR NATIONAL PARK IS SUSTAINED AT LEVELS ONLY SLIGHTLY BELOW LAST YEAR WHICH MEANS EVERY PARK IN THE NATION WILL BE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND STAFFED WITHOUT THE THREAT OF FURLOUGHS OR LAYOFFS. IT MAKES INVESTMENTS IN INDIAN COUNTRY. THIS BILL CONTINUES TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN HUMAN HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS IN INDIAN COUNTRY AFFECTING HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION AND SELF-DETERMINATION. OVERALL THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR'S FUNDED AT $9.9 BILLION WHICH IS $715 MILLION OR 7% REDUCTION BELOW LAST YEAR'S ENACTED LEVEL. AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS THAT SECRETARY SALAZAR WILL SUPPORT. THE SECRETARY AND I HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THESE ISSUES AS WELL AS SOME AREAS WHERE FUNDING ISN'T LIKE WHAT HE WANTS TO SEE. ONE OF THOSE AREAS RELATES TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. SINCE THE E.S.A. WAS ENACTED THERE HAVE BEEN 2,018 SPECIES LISTED AND ONLY 21 RECOVERED. THAT'S A PRETTY POOR TRACK RECORD. ANY OTHER PROGRAM SUCH A POOR RATE OF SUCCESS WOULD HAVE LONG SINCE BEEN TERMINATED. THERE IS NOT ONE MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT IS OPPOSED OF TO HAVING THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. IT HAS BECOME A POLICY FAILURE. THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE E.S.A. APPROPRIATION EXPIRED 20 YEARS AGO AND THE ASSUMPTION HAS BEEN THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WOULD CONTINUE TO FUND IT YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AS IT HAS IN THE PAST. IN FACT, MEMBERS MAY BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT 26% IS FOR PROGRAMS WHICH AUTHORIZATIONS HAVE EXPIRED. THAT'S NOT HOW THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK, MR. SPEAKER. AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH REGULAR ORDER AND PASSING APPROPRIATIONS BILL, WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE AUTHORIZERS TO UPDATE AND FIX LAWS THAT NO LONGER WORK OR HAVE EXPIRED. IT'S TIME TO FIX THE E.S.A. THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS FOR THE AUTHORIZERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CONSERVATION COMMUNITY TO COME TO THE TABLE TO FIX AND SO WE CAN BEGIN RECOVERING SPECIES. WE ARE SENDING THAT MESSAGE TODAY. CLIMATE CHANGE IS ANOTHER ITEM OF INTEREST TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MOST MEMBERS KNOW THAT I AM NOT A CLIMATE CHANGE NAYSAYER. CLIMATE CHANGE FUNDING HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND NO ONE HAS ANY IDEA HOW OR WHETHER ITS FUNDING IS BEING COORDINATED BETWEEN VARIOUS AGENCIES. A REPORT RELEASED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, THE G.A.O. SAID, WITHOUT FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN HOW CLIMATE CHANGE FUNDING IS DEFINED AND REPORTED STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE SET AND FUNDING IS ALIGNED WITH THOSE PRIORITIES, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC AND CONGRESS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW CLIMATE CHANGE FUNDS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR AND HOW THEY ARE SPENT. AS A RESULT OF THIS ONGOING CONCERN, CLIMATE CHANGE FUNDING IN THIS BILL IS REDUCED BY $83 MILLION OR 22%. THE BILL ALSO MAKES A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR LAND ACQUISITION. LAND ACQUISITION WAS FUNDED AT $301 MILLION IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THE PRESIDENT HAS REQUESTED $900 MILLION. WE FUNDED IT AT $66 MILLION IN THIS BILL TO COMPLETE LAND ACQUISITIONS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION. I'D PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE FUNDING IN THE LDCF. THE PROBLEM IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING WHILE WE INCREASE GAS AND OIL PERMITS, WE WON'T HAVE A $38 MILLION INCREASE FOR ADDITIONAL ONSHORE GAS AND OIL FEES OR THE $55 MILLION INCREASE FOR ADDITIONAL OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS FEES. THESE ISSUES ARE BEST LEFT TO THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION AND I HOPE THAT BY NEXT YEAR THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES WILL ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. THERE ARE A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO MEMBERS THAT I'LL MENTIONED BRIEFLY. THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY IS FUNDED AT $1.1 BILLION WHICH IS 3% OF THE F.Y. 2011 ENACTED LEVEL. THE SATELLITE PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN A COOPERATIVE VENTURE WITH NASA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE USGS WITHOUT ANY CORRESPONDING FUNDING WITH NASA. BECAUSE THE PROJECTED COSTS ARE PROTECTED TO BE INCREASED BY 10-, FOLD, THIS SENDS THE BILL BACK TO THED A INFORMATION WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO START OVER. WITHIN THE E.P.A., THE BILL -- THE BILL INCLUDES $15 MILLION FOR A NEW COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM TO FUND RURAL WATER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WHICH IS WIDELY SUPPORTED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. THE N.E.A. AND N.E.H. ARE FUNDED AT $135 MILLION WHICH IS TOO LOW FOR SOME MEMBERS AND TOO HIGH FOR OTHERS. IT HELPS THE LONG DRLS STANDING SLATED PROGRAMS. IT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THE SMITHSONIAN LEVELS JUST BELOW THE F.Y. 2011 LEVELS. IT HAS $75 MILLION FOR REVITALIZATION OF SMITHSONIAN BUILDINGS. THE BILL PROVIDES A $30 MILLION DOWN PAYMENT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR OF A MEMORIAL TO HONOR DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER. I HOPE THIS DEBATE WILL FOCUS THE INTENT OF THE E.P.A. WE NEED TO FUND THE E.P.A. TO OPERATE -- TO OPERATE AND RAY CHORD WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. THROUGH E.P.A. FUNDING WE ALSO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS OUR NATION'S CRITICAL WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. HOWEVER, ONE OF THE MAJOR UNDERLYING THEMES IN THIS YEAR'S WORK IS THE SHEER VOLUME OF THE REGULATORY ACTIONS BEING PURSUED BY AGENCIES IN THE ABSENCE OF LEGISLATION AND WITHOUT CLEAR CONGRESSIONAL ACTION. MY INTENT'S OPPOSITION TO THE E.P.A.'S EFFORTS TO CONTROL NEARLY EVERY INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTRY IS NO SECRET. THE E.P.A.'S UNRESTRAINED EFFORT TO REGULATE GREENHOUSE GASES AND THE PURSUIT OF AN OVERLY AGGRESSIVE REGULATORY AGENDA IS SCIENCE OF AN AGENCY THAT HAS LOST ITS BEARING. WHEREVER I GO THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HEAR ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ABOUT HOW THE E.P.A.'S CREATING ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND KILLING JOBS. THIS ISN'T A PARTISAN ISSUE. MEMBERS OF BOTH PARTIES HAVE SAID THAT THE E.P.A.'S REGULATORY ACTIONS VASTLY EXCEED ITS AUTHORITY AND THE CONGRESSIONAL INTENT. THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO EXPAND THAT AUTHORITY RESTS SOLELY WITH CONGRESS, NOT WITH THE FEAMPLET. WE HAVE INCLUDED A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS UNTIL THE BASE BILL TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND MORE WERE ADDED IN FULL COMMITTEE. WE SAW IN CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 1 EARLIER THIS YEAR AND WE WILL SEE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR EVEN MORE EFFORTS TO REIN IN THE E.P.A. I KNOW SOME OF MY DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS WILL BE CRITICAL OF THE SPENDING REDUCTIONS IN THE E.P.A. ACCOUNTS. WHILE WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CLEAN -- OF THE CLEAN DRINKING WATER AND STATE DRINKING WATER REVOLVING FUNDS, WE KNOW THAT FUNDING THEM, AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST, IS NOT POSSIBLE. WE NEED TO FIND A BETTER LONG-TERM FUNDING SOURCE FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, SOMETHING THAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THESE ARE PROGRAMS RECEIVED $6 BILLION IN RECOVERY FUNDS. IN CALENDAR YEAR 2009 THE E.P.A. RECEIVED OVER $25 BILLION IN COMBINED STIMULUS FUNDING AND REGULAR APPROPRIATIONS, SO IT SHOULD COME TO NO SURPRISE THAT THE FUNDING FOR THE E.P.A. WAS REDUCED BY 18% FROM CURRENT LEVELS. MUCH WILL BE SAID TODAY BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S ALLOCATION OF THE POLICY PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL BUT JUST REMEMBER A AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING IS REDUCING SPENDING, PROMOTING AN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT CONDUSIVE TO JOB GROWTH. IF THERE'S ONE THING WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S THAT WE CAN'T SPEND OUR WAY TO AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY. THAT DIDN'T WORK. ALL IT DID WAS MAKE THE HOLE WE'RE IN MUCH DEEPER. I KNOW MR. MORAN AND MR. DICKS MAY NOT AGREE BUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL AND THOSE THAT WILL BE ADDED TODAY AND ON THE HOUSE FLOOR, THEY AREN'T ABOUT SPECIAL INTERESTS. THEY'RE ABOUT JOBS. THEY ARE ABOUT PROTECTING BUSINESSES AND HARDWORKING AMERICANS FROM FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS. IT IS ABOUT CREATING CERTAINTY IN THE MARKETPLACE AND ENSURING BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY PEOPLE THAT IT'S SAFE TO BEGIN HIRING PEOPLE AGAIN WITHOUT THE THREAT OF THE E.P.A. UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND POSING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PENALTIES THAT DEFY COMMON SENSE. IS THIS A PERFECT BILL? NO, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN A PERFECT BILL. THIS IS A BILL THAT MAKES A VERY TOUGH CHOICE ON SPENDING. IT'S A BILL THAT ATTEMPTS TO REIN IN THE EXCESSES OF THE E.P.A. AND IT'S A BILL THAT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO STAKEHOLDERS IN CONGRESS THAT IT'S TIME TO GET BUSY ON DEALING WITH AUTHORIZING MEASURES. I ALSO WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE A $1.6 TRILLION DEFICIT. I WISH WE WEREN'T $14.5 TRILLION IN DEBT. I WISHED THAT THE ECONOMY WAS BOOMING AND UNEMPLOYMENT WAS SOMETHING WE READ IN HISTORY BOOKS. WISHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. THESE ARE THE POLITICAL REALITIES WE HAVE TO FACE. IN CLOSING I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN PRODUCING THIS BILL. MOST MEMBERS DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT STAFF PUT ON THIS. ON THE MINORITY SIDE I'D LIKE TO THANK PETE AND OTHERS. THEY PLAYED AN INTEGRAL ROLE IN THE PROCESS. ON THE MAJORITY SIDE' LIKE TO THANK THE SUBCOMMITTEE STAFF, COLIN, GRACE. SHE HELD OFF UNTIL SHE WAS SURE WE HAD THIS BILL THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. AIRCRAFTA, DAVE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MISSY, LINDSEY ON MY PERSONAL STAFF FOR THEIR GREAT WORK. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:00:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM IDAHO RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. MORAN, IS…

    FROM IDAHO RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. MORAN, IS RECOGNIZED. .

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  • 02:00:46 PM

    MR. MORAN

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A SAD DAY. A SAD DAY FOR THE…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A SAD DAY. A SAD DAY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOR AMERICA'S GREAT NATURAL AND CULTURAL HERITAGE. H.R. 2584, WITH ITS DEEP CUTS AND IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCE PROGRAMS, AN AMAZING ARRAY OF SPECIAL INTERESTS, WRITERS, AND FUNDING LIMITATIONS FALLS FAR SHORT OF MEETING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROTECT AND WISELY USE OUR NATION'S NATURAL RESOURCES. THE BILL BEFORE THE HOUSE TODAY IS MORE THAN $2 BILLION BELOW THE CURRENT SPENDING LEVEL. AND IT'S ALMOST $4 BILLION BELOW THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. IT'S EVEN $324 MILLION BELOW THE LEVEL OF H.R. 1245 WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE -- OF H.R. 1 THAT WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE IN FEBRUARYMENT GIVEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S PUNISHINGLY LOW 302-B ALLOCATION, I DO RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT CHAIRMAN SIMPSON OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND CHAIRMAN ROGERS OF THE FULL COMMITTEE AND THEIR EXCELLENT STAFF FACED IN CRAFTING THE BILL. I DO APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS, MR. SIMPSON'S EFFORTS PARTICULARLY, AND MR. COLE'S TO PROTECT FUNDING FOR AMERICAN INDIAN PROGRAMS. I ONLY WISH THAT THAT PROTECTION COULD HAVE EXTENDED TO OTHER IMPORTANT PORTIONS OF THIS BILL. BUT AS BAD AS THE FUNDING IN THIS BILL IS, WHAT IS MOST DISAPPOINTING IS THE SCOPE AND EXTENT TO WHICH THE MAJORITY HAS FILLED THIS BILL WITH EXTREMIST LEGISLATIVE RIDERS AND FUNDING LIMITATIONS. THE BILL IS SHORT ON NEEDED FUNDS AND LONG ON ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS. H.R. 2584 IS NOT SO MUCH A SPENDING BILL AS A WISH LIST FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS. OIL COMPANIES, CATTLE GRAZERS, INDUSTRIAL AGRIBUSINESS, MINERS, AND THOSE WHO WISH TO POLLUTE OUR AIR AND WATER FOR GREATER PROFIT ALL HAVE THEIR SPECIAL PROVISIONS TUCKED AWAY INTO THIS BILL. IT IS A DUMP TRUCK OF PROVISIONS FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS. IN ADDITION, THIS BILL PICKS UP WHERE H.R. 1 LEFT OFF. AND INCLUDES DOZENS OF DEEP CUTS IN CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PROGRAMS, WHILE THE EXTRACTIVE OR CONSUMPTIVE USES OF OUR PUBLIC LANDS ARE SHIELDED FROM CUTS AND GIVEN A PASS FROM COMPLYING WITH OUR NATION'S LANDMARK ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. WE CONTINUALLY HEAR FROM THE MAJORITY THAT THE PAIN OF BUDGET CUTS HAS TO BE SHARED BY ALL. BUT IN THIS BILL THEY HAVE CHOSEN WINNERS AND LOSERS. THE EXTRACTERS AND THE EXPLOITERS, THE DESPOILERS OF THE FORESTS AND ANIMALS AND THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND UPON CLEAN AIR AND WATER, THEY HAVE CHOSEN WINNERS AND LOSERS. THE FORMER ARE THE WINNERS, THE LATTER ARE THE LOSERS. THE ANIMALS, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE FORESTS, THE WATERWAYS, THEY ALL LOSE. THIS BILL CONTINUES THE MAJORITY'S ASSAULT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY WITH DEEP CUTS AFTER THE E.P.A. BUDGET WAS CUT BY 16% AND THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE MAJORITY IS NOW PROPOSING A FURTHER REDUCTION OF 18% FOR NEXT YEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, A 34% CUT IN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. CUTS OF NEARLY 40% ARE MADE TO THE CLEAN WATER AND SAFE DRINKING WATER GRANT PROGRAMS. JUST AT THE TIME WHEN THE STATES LOCALITIES HAVE RUN OUT OF MONEY TO TRY TO PROVIDE FOR CLEAN WATER AND TO DEAL WITH STORM WATER OVERFLOW AND ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NECESSARY THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, WHEN THE MAJORITY SAYS IT WANTS TO REIN IN THE E.P.A., WHAT THEY ARE REALLY REINING IN IS THE ABILITY TO PROTECT CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER. I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE MAJORITY'S DECISION TO PROHIBIT FUNDS FOR THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT LISTING AND CRITICAL HABITAT DESIGNATIONS. THESE ARE THE VITAL FIRST STEPS NEEDED TO BEGIN THE RECOVERY PROCESS FOR 260, 260 SPECIES CURRENTLY AT RISK OF EXTINCTION. UNDER THE GUISE OF SENDING A SIGNAL TO THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE, THIS BILL ATTACKS THE VERY HEART OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. WILDLIFE PROGRAMS OVERALL ARE HARD HIT BY THIS BILL. STATE AND TRIBAL WILDLIFE GRANTS ARE CUT BY 2/3. MULTIJARBLE SPECIES CONSERVATION -- MULTINATIONAL SUPPOSE YIGS CONSERVATION BY A FIFTH. EVEN FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM WILL BE CUT BY 7.5%. OUR NATIONAL PARKS AND FORESTS, WILDLIFE REFUGES, WILDERNESS AREAS, AND OTHER CONSERVATION UNITS DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT THIS BILL PROVIDES. AS STEWARDS OF THESE MAGNIFICENT RESOURCE THAT IS WERE PASSED DOWN TO US, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DEFEND AND PRESERVE THEM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. SPENDING REDUCTIONS LIKE THE 78% CUT IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. NEARLY 80% CUT TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, TO THE LOWEST LEVEL IT'S EVER BEEN. AND THE 33% CUT TO THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE CONSERVATION SYSTEM. WILL PLACE AT RISK SOME OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT MORE THAN OUR NATURAL RESOURCES THAN THE ENVIRONMENT. WHILE THE CULTURAL ACTIVITIES AND INSTITUTIONS ARE A SMALL PORTION OF THE BILL, THEY ARE VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THEY DO ENHANCE OUR ECONOMY AND WAY OF LIFE, YET THESE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES WOULD RECEIVE SUBSTANTIAL CUTS UNDER THIS BILL AS WELL. ALSO STRUCK BY THE CONTRADICTIONS CONTAINED IN H.R. 2584. HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES. ON THE ONE HAND THE BILL ALLOCATES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO RESTORE THE EVERGLADES IN FLORIDA. YET THE MAJORITY INCLUDES A FUNDING LIMITATION THAT WILL PERMIT THE POLLUTION OF THE EVERGLADES. THE BILL ALSO INCLUDES FUNDING TO DEAL WITH THE CONTINUING FALLOUT FROM URANIUM MINING ON THE NAVAJO INDIAN RESERVATION, YET IT INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT WILL EXPOSE THE GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK AND THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DEPEND UPON THE COLORADO RIVER FOR THEIR DRINKING WATER TO THE WELL-KNOWN DANGERS OF URANIUM MINING. AND THEY GIVE AWAY THE PUBLICLY OWNED URANIUM TO A FOREIGN-OWNED ASIAN MINING COMPANY. I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENT. IMAGINE GIVING AWAY PUBLICLY OWNED URANIUM, GIVING IT AWAY TO A FOREIGN FIRM. THE LIST OF LEGISLATIVE RIDERS AND FUNDING LIMITATIONS IN THE BILL IS LONG. NEPA WAIVERS, LIMITATIONS ON JUDICIAL REVIEW, BLOCKING OF AIR, WATER POLLUTION CONTROLS. WHOLE LEMMING TEXTS HAVE BEEN DUMPED INTO THIS BILL. THESE RIDERS AND LIMITATIONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH DEFICIT REDUCTION AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CARRYING OUT AN EXTREME IDEOLOGICAL AGENDA. REPEALING ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS DOESN'T SAVE MONEY, IT COSTS MONEY. KEEPING TOXINS OUT OF OUR AIR AND WATER IS A GREAT DEAL CHEAPER THAN CLEANING UP THE DAMAGE, OR DEALING WITH THE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS. PREVENTING THE DEEP WATER HORIZON DISASTER WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR CHEAPER THAN HAVING TO CLEAN IT UP AFTER THE FACT. EACH RIDER OR FUNDING LIMITATION SEEMS DESIGNED TO BENEFIT ONE INDUSTRY OR ANOTHER. THESE PROVISIONS HAVE BECOME THE NEW EARMARKS WITH 39 SUCH PROVISIONS ALREADY IN THE BILL AND MORE ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE ADDED. THIS BILL REWARDS BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES THAT SEEK TO DELAY OR UNDERMINE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, IT PENALIZES OTHERS WHO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. JUST ONE EXAMPLE, AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER RECENTLY ANNOUNCED IT'S GOING TO STOP WORK ON A LOW-CARBON COAL-FIRED POWER PLANT, SHOWING IT CAN WORK, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO STOP WORK ON IT IN LIGHT OF THE PULLBACK IN REGULATING ADMISSIONS RELATED CLIMATE CHANGE. THEY SEE WHAT THE CONGRESS IS DOING. THEY SEE WHAT THEIR COMPETITORS ARE DOING. SO THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING IT TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THE FUNDING CUTS AND SPECIAL INTERESTS PROVISIONS, IT'S NO WONDER THE STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY ON H.R. 2584 RUNS FIVE PAGES WITH ITS VETO THREAT. I CONCUR WITH THE ADMINISTRATION VIEWS ON THE BILL AND UNDER GENERAL LEAVE WILL SUBMIT THE ADMINISTRATION'S STATEMENT. WE OWE IT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITIES TO PROTECT THE AIR WE BREATHE AND THE WATER WE DRINK. TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH FROM THE DANGERS OF MERCURY AND ARSENIC AND LEAD. IMAGINE WE HAVE MORE THAN 500 COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS IN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE EMIT MORE THAN 78,000 POUNDS OF MERCURY, YET ONE CROP WILL POISON AN ENTIRE LAKE. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD LOOK TO. NOT TYING E.P.A.'S HANDS. WE OUGHT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE ABUNDANT NATURAL AND CULTURAL HERITAGE PASSED DOWN TO US. PRESIDENT JOHNSON NOTED IN 1964, I'M GOING TO QUOTE, THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE TO REMIND US AND REMEMBER US WITH GRATITUDE RATHER THAN CONTEMPT. WE MUST LEAVE THEM SOMETHING MORE THAN THE MIRACLES OF TECHNOLOGY. WE SHOULD BE LEAVING THEM A GLIMPSE OF THE WORLD AS IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING NOT JUST AFTER WE GOT THROUGH WITH IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, H.R. 2584 FALLS FAR SHORT OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. SO I OBVIOUSLY OPPOSE THE BILL AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 02:10:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO WILL SUSPEND. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL RISE INFORMALLY.

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  • 02:11:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL RECEIVE A MESSAGE. THE…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL RECEIVE A MESSAGE. THE MESSENGER: MR. SPEAKER, A MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT. THE SECRETARY: MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 02:11:10 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MR. SECRETARY. SLOIM I'M DIRECTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO…

    MR. SECRETARY. SLOIM I'M DIRECTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO DELIVER TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES A MESSAGE IN WRITING.

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  • 02:11:20 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE COMMITTEE WILL RESUME ITS SITTING.

  • 02:11:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 02:11:35 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE ESTEEMED CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, THE…

    I YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE ESTEEMED CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY, MR. ROGERS.

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  • 02:11:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 02:11:42 PM

    MR. ROGERS

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE TODAY TO COMMEND THIS BILL TO…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE TODAY TO COMMEND THIS BILL TO OUR COLLEAGUES AND URGE THAT IT BE PASSED. IT INCLUDES $27.5 BILLION IN FEDERAL SPENDING THAT'S A REDUCTION OF $2.1 BILLION BELOW LAST YEAR. $3.8 BILLION BELOW THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. SOME HAVE COMPLAINED THAT THESE CUTS ARE TOO MUCH. TOO FAST. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THESE AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS HAVE SEEN UNPRECEDENTED MASSIVE INCREASES IN SPENDING IN RECENT YEARS. THIS SORT OF EXCESS HAS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR ASTRONOMICAL DEBT AND THREATENING OUR RECOVERY. WE SIMPLY CAN'T FUND UNNECESSARY AND INEFFECTIVE PROGRAMS WHEN WE ARE BORROWING 42 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND. WE JUST SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD IT. THIS LEGISLATION MAKES SMART, SIGNIFICANT CUTS ACROSS EACH AND EVERY AGENCY FUNDED BY THIS BILL. THE BILL STILL ADEQUATELY FUNDS THE AGENCIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE HEALTH OF OUR CITIZENS, THE STABILITY OF OUR ECONOMY, AND THE PRESERVATION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. BUT WE HAVE MADE SOME PRIORITY ADJUSTMENTS IN AREAS THAT CAN AND SHOULD WHICH STAND LOWER BUDGETS. SOME AREAS THAT WILL SEE BIGGER REDUCTIONS INCLUDE CLIMATE CHANGE PROGRAMS, WHICH IS TRIMMED 22% FROM LAST YEAR, AND LAND ACQUISITION FUNDING, WHICH IS AT A LEVEL NEARLY 79% LOWER THAN LAST YEAR. FRANKLY, MANY OF THE CUTS IN THIS BILL ARE JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. THE REDUCTIONS AND PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL WERE MADE WITH VERY GOOD REASON, TO REIN IN UNPARALLELED OUT-OF-CONTROL SPENDING AND JOB-KILLING OVERREGULATION BY THE E.P.A. THOUGH WE ALL APPRECIATE THE CORE MISSION OF THE E.P.A., THIS AGENCY HAS LOST GRIPS WITH ECONOMIC REALITY AND IT'S BECOME THE EPITOME OF THE CONTINUED AND DAMAGING REGULATORY OVERREACH OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN'T ALLOW AN AGENCY TO CIRCUMVENT THE AUTHORITY OF CONGRESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS SUCH DESTRUCTIVE EFFECTS. ON OUR NATION'S ECONOMIC RECOVERY. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM AMERICANS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS EVERY SECTOR OF THE ECONOMY WHO ATTRIBUTE HARSH REGULATORY BURDENS TO THEIR ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY, UNCERTAINTY THAT'S CRUSHING JOB GROWTH. IT'S MY HOPE THAT THIS LEGISLATION SENDS THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR, LEGISLATION BY REGULATION MUST STOP. WE HAVE RESTRICTED FUNDING FOR E.P.A. PERSONNEL AS WELL AS ADDRESSED E.P.A.'S FLAWED GREENHOUSE GAS REGULATIONS AND DE FACTO MORATORIUM ON MINING PERMITS IN APPALACHIA. IT'S MY HOPE THAT PROVISIONS LIKE THESE WILL RETURN THE E.P.A. TO A BETTER WORKING ORDER. FACILITATING A MORE EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT, SENDING MONEY WHERE IT REALLY NEEDS TO GO AND REMOVING BURDENSOME BARRIERS TO JOB CREATION TO CLEAR THE WAY FOR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. . MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN SIMPSON AND RANKING MEMBER MORAN. THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALL OF THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS VERY TOUGH BILL. CHAIRMAN SIMPSON HAS LED THE WAY ON AN EXCELLENT BILL. I THINK IT MAKES GOOD ON OUR PROMISE TO REDUCE GOVERNMENT SPENDING WITH REAL SIGNIFICANT SPENDING REFORMS. HIS SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. CHAIRMAN, HELD 22 OVERSIGHT HEARINGS, MORE THAN ANY OTHER OF THE 12 SUBCOMMITTEES ON APPROPRIATIONS. I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR DUTY TO ENSURE THAT THESE CUTS COME FROM WASTEFUL AND REDUNDANT PROGRAMS. I KNOW THESE DECISIONS WERE NOT MADE LIGHTLY, WERE NOT MADE EASY BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AND WILL HELP US MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT AT TIMES, THE HOUSE SHOULD BE PROUD TO BE MOVING THIS YEAR'S APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS IN REGULAR ORDER THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS. WITH THIS BILL WE WILL HAVE FINISHED MORE THAN HALF OF THE 12 -- FISCAL YEAR 2012 APPROPRIATIONS BILLS BEFORE OUR AUGUST RECESS. THIS RETURN TO REGULAR ORDER HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THOUGHTFUL, CLIB ARE A TIF APPROPRIATIONS BILLS THAT REFLECT THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND IT WILL HELP GET OUR NATION'S FINANCES IN ORDER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:16:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM KENTUCKY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESEARCHES. THE…

    FROM KENTUCKY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESEARCHES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED -- IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:17:05 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, MR. DICKS.

  • 02:17:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

  • 02:17:11 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. DICKS

    MY OPPOSITION TO H.R. 2584, THE F.Y. 2012 INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL…

    MY OPPOSITION TO H.R. 2584, THE F.Y. 2012 INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL. BEFORE I STATE MY OPPOSITION, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN SIMPSON, RANKING MEMBER MORAN -- I -- MORAN FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL. I WANT TO THANK THEIR STAFF FOR DEVELOPING THIS BILL. THAT BEING SAID, THE LOW ALLOCATION FOISTED ON THE INTERIOR SUBCOMMITTEE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DEVELOP A BILL THAT IS RESPONSIBLE AND REASONABLE. SO IT IS NO SURPRISE THAT THE RESULTING BILL WILL HARM THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR ONGOING EFFORTS TO PRESERVE OUR NATURAL HERITAGE. TWO POTENTIAL DAMAGES IS IT SHOULD THE LOWEST SPENDING IN THE LAND AND CONSERVATION FUND IF MORE MAN 40 YEARS AND FUNDING LEVELS FOR E.P.A. NOT SEEN IN OVER A DECADE. OVERALL THE ALLOCATION IS 7% BELOW THE AMOUNT ENACTED IN THE CURRENT YEAR WHICH WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR NATURAL RESOURCE AGENCIES AND ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. AFTER THE E.P.A. TOOK A SUBSTANTIAL CUT OF 16% IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, 2011, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS NOW PROPOSING A FURTHER REDUCTION IN THE AGENCY' BUDGET OF 18%. YOU ADD THAT TOGETHER, IT'S A 34% REDUCTION IN JUST ONE YEAR. IT WOULD DIMINISH THE CAPACITY OF E.P.A. TO CARRY OUT ITS RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH MAY BE THE GOAL OF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT THE REPERCUSSIONS WILL BE FELT ACROSS THE NATION, INCLUDING AN EVER-GROWING BACKLOG OF WATER TREATMENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND A DECLINE IN AIR AND WATER QUALITY. AS WAS POINTED OUT IN A RECENT "WASHINGTON POST" ARTICLE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF E.P.A.'S FUNDS PASSED THROUGH STATES AND LOCALITIES THAT ARE ALREADY SQUEEZED THROUGH BUDGET CUTS. THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS CREATE JOBS IN COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND PROVIDE ONE OF THE MOST BASIC SERVICES TAXPAYERS EXPECT, CLEAN WATER. THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S E.P.A. ADMINISTRATOR ESTIMATED THERE WAS A $688 BILLION NATIONWIDE BACKLOG OF CLEAN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND THAT TOTAL IS EVEN LARGER TODAY. THAT BACKLOG WILL NOT DISAPPEAR IF WE JUST IGNORE IT, BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN IN SO MANY CASES THIS YEAR, THE MAJORITY HAS DECIDED TO PUSH THIS PROBLEM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. IN ADDITION TO THE CLEARLY INSUFFICIENT LEVELS OF FUNDING ACROSS THE BOARD IN THIS LEGISLATION, WE WERE SURPRISED THAT THE MAJORITY ALSO INCLUDED A WISH LIST OF SPECIAL INTEREST RIDERS TO THE BILL THAT WILL HAND OFF -- HANDCUFF THE E.P.A. AND THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR. THESE TYPES OF RIDERS ARE LARGELY IDEOLOGICAL, HAVE NO IMPACT ON DEFICIT REDUCTION AND WILL BE REJECTED BY THE SENATE AND THE PRESIDENT HOPEFULLY. IT SEEMS THAT SPECIAL INTEREST RIDERS HAVE BECOME THE NEW EARMARKS. THIS BILL WILL -- AND I SUPPORT EARMARKS -- THIS BILL WAS MADE EVEN WORSE WHEN THE MAJORITY ADOPTED MORE SPECIAL INTEREST RIDERS WITH AMENDMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED AT FULL COMMITTEE. AND I FEAR THAT THERE WILL BE MORE POLICY AMENDMENTS OFFERED ON THE FLOOR AS WE CONSIDER THIS BILL. ONE OF THE RIDERS IS LANGUAGE THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY BLOCK ANY FUNDING FOUGHT FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FOR NEW LISTINGS UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. AS MR. MORAN SAID, THERE ARE 260 CANDIDATE SPECIES WAITING TO BE LISTED, AND THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE THE PROTECTION OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. HERE IS THE SITUATION THAT FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE --

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  • 02:21:34 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I YIELD AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE TO MR. DICKS.

  • 02:21:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 02:21:40 PM

    MR. DICKS

    OF THAT 260, OF THAT TOTAL THERE ARE JUST UNDER 30 SPECIES THAT ARE POISED…

    OF THAT 260, OF THAT TOTAL THERE ARE JUST UNDER 30 SPECIES THAT ARE POISED FOR LISTING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE SPENDING PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL WOULD BLOCK FURTHER ACTIVITY TO PROTECT THESE DECLINING SPECIES. AND, REMEMBER, IF YOU DELAY LISTING TOO LONG A SPECIES WILL GO EXTINCT, THUS MAKING RECOVERY IMPOSSIBLE. I'LL ALSO BE STRONGLY SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENTS THAT AIM TO REMOVE THESE RIDERS. THESE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK AND THE FOLKS WHO DEPEND ON THE COLORADO RIVER FOR DRINKING WATER AND THE POTENTIAL DANGER FROM NEW URANIUM MINES. ANOTHER STATEMENT THAT I STRONGLY SUPPORT, AN AMENDMENT I STRONGLY SUPPORT WILL INCREASE FUNDING FOR SANITATION FACILITIES FOR NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. IN CLOSING, I DO WANT TO REITERATE MY PRAISE EXPRESSED AT SUBCOMMITTEE MARKUP FOR MR. SIMPSON, MR. MORAN, MR. COLE AND OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE FUNDING LEVELS FOR PROGRAMS SERVING AMERICAN INDIANS. IT IS GRATIFYING THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S BIPARTISAN COMMITMENT FOR TRIBAL PROGRAMS FORGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN CONTINUED BY THE NEW MAJORITY.

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  • 02:22:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES.…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:22:57 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 02:23:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 02:23:06 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. CHAIRMAN,…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS AGO THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR ANNOUNCED THAT THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WOULD REMOVE GRAY WOLVES IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN STATES AND THE EASTERN ONE-THIRD OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, THE EASTERN QUARTER RFT STATE OF OREGON AND A SMALL PIECE OF UTAH. I UNDERSTAND THAT H.R. 2584 ALSO WOULD EXEMPT FROM JUDICIAL REVIEW ANY FINAL RULE ISSUED BY THE SECRETARY THAT DELISTS WOLVES IN THE STATE OF WYOMING AND THE GREAT -- WESTERN GREAT LAKES. SO I COMMEND THE CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO SEE THAT THESE STATES ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO SUCCEED IN THEIR MANAGEMENT OF SPECIES. AS WITH OTHER DECISIONS, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S MAY ANNOUNCEMENT DOES NOT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR ANY AGRICULTURE STATES THAT DO NOT FISH IN THE SET GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND IT REVERSES THE POLICY THAT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE IMPLEMENTED BY REGULATION IN 2003 IN WHICH RULES -- WOLVES WERE DELISTED IN ALL OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND OTHER AREAS WITH APPROPRIATE STATE RECOVERY MEASURES IN PLACE. UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY IN MY OWN DISTRICT IN CENTRAL WASHINGTON, WOLVES WILL BE DELISTED ON AN EASTERN SIDE UP TO A HIGHWAY THAT CUTS THROUGH THE HEAVY AGRICULTURE AREA. WOLVES ON ONE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY WILL BE LISTED. ON THE OTHER SIDE NOT. THE SAME IS TRUE IN OREGON AND UTAH. I APPRECIATE THE STEPS THE GENTLEMAN HAS INCLUDED IN THIS BILL TO CREATE A MORE RATIONAL APPROACH TOWARDS DELISTING THESE RECOVERED WOLVES BY ALLOWING THE STATES TO MANAGE THE POPULATIONS USING SOUND WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT PRINCIPLES. I WANT TO CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BILL AND ACCOMPANIED REPORT LANGUAGE ON PAGE 10 IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE IN ALL STATES IN THEIR ENTIRETY IN THE NORTHERN ROCKY MOUNTAIN AREA WLUG WASHINGTON, OREGON AND UTAH. I YIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN.

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  • 02:25:19 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT…

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT STATES WITH APPROVED MANAGEMENT PLANS SHOULD BE GIVEN MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY. THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL MAKES SURE THAT THEY ARE MADE BY SCIENTISTS ON THE GROUND, NOT JUDGES IN THE COURTROOM. LANGUAGE CLARIFIES THAT SIMILAR LANGUAGE SHOULD APPLY TO AREAS WHICH WOLVES HAS EXPANDED POPULATION BOUNDARIES ONCE THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE DETERMINES THAT THE POPULATION WILL BE DELISTED. IT ADDRESSES STATES THAT FACES MIXED MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES LIKE WASHINGTON, OREGON AND UTAH. REPRESENTATIVE WALDEN HAS SHARED SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH ME AS WELL.

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  • 02:26:00 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THE…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THE PROBLEM GOES FAR BEYOND WOLVES. THE E.S.A. HAS NEARLY 1,400 LISTED SPECIES IN THE U.S. AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING SPENT BY LOCAL, STATE, FEDERAL AND PRIVATE ENTITIES ON E.S.A. ACTIVITIES. YET, FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE BEING REGULARLY SUED FOR POOR SCIENCE AND POORLY DRAFTED REGULATIONS AND ONLY 20 SPECIES HAVE BEEN RECOVERED. DO YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS BROKEN AND NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED AND UPDATED? I THANK THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 02:26:36 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    A FAILURE OF PUBLIC POLICY. AUTHORIZATIONS EXPIRED TWO DECADES AGO.…

    A FAILURE OF PUBLIC POLICY. AUTHORIZATIONS EXPIRED TWO DECADES AGO. BECAUSE WE CONTINUED TO FUND THEM, E.S.A. CONTINUES TO STAY ON A BACK BURNER. THIS BILL CALLS FOR A TIME-OUT IN THE E.S.A. DELISTING DECISIONS IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE AUTHORIZERS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO BRING THE E.S.A. IN THE 21ST CENTURY, WHICH IS NOT NOW.

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  • 02:27:03 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO SECRETARY SALAZAR ACKNOWLEDGED, AND…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO SECRETARY SALAZAR ACKNOWLEDGED, AND I QUOTE, THERE ARE CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE HOW WE DEAL WITH ENDANGERED SPECIES, END QUOTE, AND I QUOTE, WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES PROGRAM THAT DOES WORK, END QUOTE. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THE SECRETARY'S STATEMENT. THE NATURAL RESOURCES ARE COMMITTEE, THAT I CHAIR, HAS JURISDICTION OVER E.S.A. AS WELL AS NOAA AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND WE WILL BE WORKING IN COMING MONTHS TO CONDUCT ROBUST OVERSIGHT AND LOOK AT MUCH-NEEDED PROPOSALS TO UPDATE THIS LAW. I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I YIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN.

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  • 02:27:45 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE GENTLEMAN. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES BE ABLE TO…

    THE GENTLEMAN. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES BE ABLE TO MODERNIZE LANDMARK LAWS THAT WERE WIDELY SUPPORTED WHEN THEY WERE PASSED BUT DO NOT WORK LIKE CONGRESS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. STAKEHOLDERS AND INTERESTED MEMBERS OF CONGRESS SHOULD KNOW THAT THESE FRAMS ARE ALSO AT RISK OF DEFUNDING IF THEY ARE NOT RE-AUTHORIZED. OUR BILL WILL HOPEFULLY PROVIDE INCENTIVE FOR STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE TO HAVE SERIOUS REFORM OF THE E.S.A.

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  • 02:28:18 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    MY TIME. THAT CERTAINLY IS THE INTENT THAT WE TEND TO PURSUE AND I THANK…

    MY TIME. THAT CERTAINLY IS THE INTENT THAT WE TEND TO PURSUE AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 02:28:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS THE TIME.

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  • 02:28:32 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE MINORITY WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OF THE MAJORITY THAT SUCH COL…

    THE MINORITY WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OF THE MAJORITY THAT SUCH COL KEYS, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT -- BE SHARED WITH THE MINORITY. AND THEY MAY VERY WELL PROMPT ACTIONS ON MY PART -- THAT MAY VERY WELL APPLY TO THE DELISTING OF WOLVES. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE WHEN THE MAJORITY ENGAGES IN COLLOQUYS SHARING THAT LANGUAGE WITH THE MINORITY. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN LIKE TO RESPOND, I WOULD YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN?

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  • 02:29:14 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    NO PROBLEM WITH SHARING WITH YOU THE COLLOQUYS THAT WE ENGAGE IN.

  • 02:29:19 PM

    MR. MORAN

    GOOD. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THE COLLOQUY THAT TRANSPIRED. AT THIS…

    GOOD. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THE COLLOQUY THAT TRANSPIRED. AT THIS POINT I'D YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE,

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  • 02:29:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 02:29:43 PM

    MR. SERRANO

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    MR. SERRANO

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. I RISE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO H.R. 2584,…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. I RISE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO H.R. 2584, THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012. FIRST, HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE BOTH CHAIRMAN SIMPSON AND CONGRESSMAN MORAN WHO HAVE WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN AND COLLABORATIVE WAY THROUGHOUT THE LENGTHY HEARING AND MARKUP PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE FOR ME TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. UNFORTUNATELY THIS SUBCOMMITTEE'S INSUFFICIENT SPENDING ALLOCATION HAS RESULTED IN DEEP CUTS IN FUNDING FOR IMPORTANT AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION, NUMEROUS ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS HAVE BEEN ATTACHED TO THIS LEGISLATION. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY TO CHOOSE FROM, I'D LIKE TO MENTION A FEW OF THESE CUTBACKS AND WHAT THEIR IMPACT WILL BE ON SPECIFIC AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS. . THE LAPPED WATER CONVATION FUND WHICH HELPS PROTECT THREATENED AND ENDANGERED SPECIES WAS FUNDED AT $66 MILLION WHICH IS $834 MILLION BELOW THE BUDGET REQUEST. STATE AND TRIBAL WILDLIFE GRANTS WHICH PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE STRATEGIC AND EFFECTIVE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION PROGRAMS, WERE FUNDED AT 22 MILLION OR $73 MILLION BELOW REQUEST. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, E.P.A., IS FUNDED AT $7.1 BILLION WHICH IS $1.8 BILLION BELOW THE REQUEST. AT THIS FUNDING LEVEL, THE E.P.A. WILL BE PREVENTED FROM ACCOMPLISHING MANY OF ITS MISSIONS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE SO MANY DESTRUCTIVE RIDERS ATTACHED TO THIS LEGISLATION THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES TO HIGHLIGHT DURING MY BRIEF REMARKS. ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY HAUNTS MY STATE OF NEW YORK WAS ADDED DURING FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP. THIS RIDER PREVENTS THE GREAT LAKES STATES FROM RECEIVING ANY E.P.A. FUNDING IF THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED BALLIST WATER RULES IF THEY HAVE STRONGER TIMELINES THAN THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT. BECAUSE NEW YORK HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF EFFORTS TO REQUIRE SHIPS TO TREAT THEIR BALLIST WATER BEFORE DISCHARGING INTO NEW YORK'S WATERWAYS, OUR STATE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY AFFECTED. STATES SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT THEIR OWN WATERS FROM DANGEROUS AQUATIC AND EVASIVE SPECIES. ANOTHER PARTICULARLY HARMFUL RIDER WOULD STOP THE E.P.A. FROM LIMITING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM A STATIONARY SOURCE. FOR ONE YEAR. OVERALL 69% OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE UNITED STATES COME FROM STATIONARY SOURCES. SUCH AS OUR ELECTRIC UTILITIES AND PETROLEUM REFINERIES. THIS RIDER WHICH PREVENTS THE E.P.A. FROM ACTING WILL HAVE FAR-REACHING AND DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES ON OUR NATION'S AIR QUALITY. IN PARTICULAR MY BRONX CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHICH HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ASTHMA RATES IN THE NATION WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER FROM POOR AIR QUALITY. BECAUSE OF THE SHARP REDUCTIONS INCLUDED IN THIS BILL TO THE PROGRAMS AND AGENCIES THAT PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, ENRICH OUR LIVES THROUGH THE ARTS, AND INCREASE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND BECAUSE OF THE RIDERS THAT HARM OUR WILDLIFE, OUR LAND, OUR WATER, AND OUR AIR QUALITY, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS BILL. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 02:33:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:33:23 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO A VALUED MEMBER OF THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO A VALUED MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. CALVERT.

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  • 02:33:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 02:33:32 PM

    MR. CALVERT

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR,…

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATION. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN SIMPSON, AND RANKING MEMBER MORAN, FOR BEING EXCELLENT LEADERS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH BOTH OF THEM. ESPECIALLY COMMEND THE 22 OVERSIGHT HEARINGS THAT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE HELD THIS YEAR. THIS IS -- THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WORKS HARD. WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN PUTTING THIS BILL TOGETHER. THE F.Y. 2012 INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATION BILL RECOGNIZES THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING. IT'S A $2.1 BILLION BELOW LAST YEAR'S LEVELS AS WAS MENTIONED. $3.8 BILLION BELOW THE PRESIDENT'S 2012 REQUEST. IT'S A FOCUSED CLEAN BILL. SUPPORTS FUNDING FOR DUTIES THAT ARE CLEARLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND MAKES TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE ALLOCATE TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS. THE BILL FULLY FUNDS FEDERAL FIREFIGHTERS, FOREST SERVICE, WILDLAND, FIRE MANAGEMENT, ENSURES OUR NATIONAL PARKS THAT BELONG TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REMAIN FULLY OPERATIONAL IN 2012. AND FINALLY IT INCLUDES $30 MILLION FOR DIESEL REDUCTION GRANS TO RETROFIT OLD DIESEL ENGAINS WITH CLEANER BURNING ONCE -- ONES. THE BILL ALSO REDUCES E.P.A.'S INFLATED BUDGET BACK DOWN TO THE 2006 LEVEL, CUTS $46 MILLION IN REQUESTED FUNDING FOR BURDENSOME REGULATION OF GREENHOUSE GASES WHICH MEANS CONTROL OF CARBON DIOXIDE. REGULATION THAT UNILATERALLY ADOPTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IS MAKING U.S. COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD AND SENDING AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS. FINALLY, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE ARE MANY SPENDING REDUCTIONS IN THIS BILL. INCLUDING PROGRAMS I SUPPORT. HOWEVER WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE TO BRING ECONOMIC SANITY BACK TO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THIS IS THE FIRST -- ONE OF THE FIRST OF MANY STEPS TO COME. IN CONCLUSION I AM PLEASED TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:35:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE…

    FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:35:44 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I REQUEST THE -- HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE ON EITHER SIDE IN…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I REQUEST THE -- HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE ON EITHER SIDE IN GENERAL DEBATE?

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  • 02:35:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 10 1/2 MINUTES. AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 10 1/2 MINUTES. AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO HAS 6 1/2 MINUTES.

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  • 02:35:58 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM MINNESOTA,…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD YIELD FIVE MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM MINNESOTA, MS. MCCOLLUM.

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    MS. MCCOLLUM

    YOU, MR. MORAN. AS A MEMBER OF THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATION…

    YOU, MR. MORAN. AS A MEMBER OF THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATION SUBCOMMITTEE I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR CHAIRMAN SIMPSON, RANKING MEMBER MORAN, AND THE STAFFERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. ONE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS BILL, CHAIRMAN SENSENBRENNER, REPRESENTATIVE COLE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WITH DEMOCRATS TO PROTECT CRITICAL EDUCATION AND HEALTH CARE INVESTMENTS IN INDIAN COUNTRY. THAT'S PART OF OUR TRUST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 565 TRIBES IN THIS COUNTRY. NATIVE AMERICAN CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND ELDERS WILL ALL BENEFIT AS A RESULT OF OUR EFFORTS. HOWEVER, ON VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER SPECT OF THIS BILL, PARTICULARLY ON THE ENVIRONMENT, THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL IS A RADICAL ATTEMPT TO TAKE AMERICA BACKWARDS FROM 40 YEARS OF BIPARTISAN PROGRESS AND PROTECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE NEARLY FOUR SPECIAL INTEREST POL SID RIDERS IN THIS BILL. IT IS OUTRAGEOUS THESE RIDERS PROTECT CORPORATE POLLUTERS WHILE ATTACKING CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR, OUR PUBLIC LANDS, AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION. REPRESENTATIVES WAXMAN, MARKEY, AND RUSH AS RMS OF THE HOUSE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE HAVE SENT LETTERS EXPRESSING THEIR GRAVE CONCERN ABOUT THESE EXTREME DESTRUCTIVE POLICY RIDERS THAT HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING ON AN APPROPRIATION SPENDING BILL. THIS ABUSE OF THE PROCESS -- IT WILL IMPERIL AMERICA'S HERITAGE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. IN PARTICULAR, REPUBLICANS HAVE CHOSEN TO MOUNT AN UNPRECEDENTED ASSAULT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AN AGENCY CREATED BY PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON. CLEARLY REPUBLICANS HAVE NOW COME FULL CIRCLE AND THIS BILL MAKES HOUSE REPUBLICANS THE MOST POLLUTER FRIENDLY CONGRESS IN NEARLY TWO GENERATIONS. IN ADDITION TO CUTTING -- AND -- GUTTING THE E.P.A.'S BUDGET, REPUBLICANS HAVE ADDED 10 POLICY RIDERS THAT WILL MAKE THE AIR WE BREATHE DIRTIER AND POLICY RIDERS THAT WILL MAKE THE WATER WE DRINK MORE POLLUTED. THE REPUBLICAN RIDERS HALT THE E.P.A.'S WORK UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH FROM CARBON DIOXIDE POLLUTION, SOOT, AND SMOG. THIS WILL JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH OF MILLIONS OF CHILDREN SUFFERING FROM ASTHMA AND PUT MORE AMERICANS AT RISK. -- THAT'S AN EQUIVALENT -- LEADING TO $2 TRILLION IN ECONOMIC BENEFITS. THE REPUBLICAN RIDERS ALSO STOP THE E.P.A.'S WORK UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT TO CLEAN OUR RIVERS, STREAMS, LAKES, AND TO PROTECT OUR DRINKING WATER FROM THE IMPACTS OF COAL MINING, STORM WATER DISCHARGE, AND TOXIC NUTRIENT POLLUTION, AND PESTICIDES. ESSENTIALLY HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT FROM CORPORATE POLLUTERS IS NO LONGER IMPORTANT. AND DESPITE THE TEA PARTY REPUBLICAN BENT ON EARMARKS, THIS BILL IS LOADED WITH EARMARKS FOR A FEW PRIVILEGED POLLUTERS AND SPECIAL INTERESTS. HERE'S JUST SOME OF THE EARMARKS. AN EARMARK FOR FOREIGN COMPANIES TO ALLOW FOR URANIUM MINING ADJACENT TO THE GRAND CANYON. ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST TREASURED PLACES. AN EARMARK FOR SHELL OIL TO IGNORE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS TO DRILL OFFSHORE IN THE ARCTIC OCEAN. AN EARMARK FOR A FEW SHEEP FARMERS SUBSIDIZED BY U.S. TAXPAYERS ON U.S. LAND SO THAT THEY CAN INVADE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS THAT PROTECT BIG HORN SHEET. AND THE STATE OF TEXAS TO PERMIT ITS PROGRAM IN VIOLATION OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT. THESE DIRTY, TOXIC, AND DANGEROUS EARMARKS TO A FEW SPECIAL INTERESTS COME AT THE EXPENSE OF CLEANER WATER, HEALTHIER AIR, OUR CHERISHED NATIONAL PARKS, AND ENDANGERED WILDLIFE. MINNESOTANS ARE DEEPLY, DEEPLY TROUBLED BY THIS RECKLESS BILL THAT ENDANGERS THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES WHILE DESTROYING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR CHILDREN'S INHERITANCE. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXTREME PIECES OF ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL LEGISLATION EVER TO COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. AS FAR AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED, H.R. 2584 SHOULD BE DECLARED A TOXIC SUPERFUND SITE BECAUSE IT IS SO DANGEROUS TO HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIATED RATHER THAN PASSED INTO LAW. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS BILL AND ITS ABANDONMENT OF 40 YEARS OF PROGRESS. WE HAVE MADE IN PROTECTING AMERICA'S PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND THE AMERICAN NATURAL HERITAGE. WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER -- MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:41:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:41:17 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THANK YOU. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO AN ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE AND MEMBER OF THE…

    THANK YOU. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO AN ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE AND MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA, MR. COLE.

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  • 02:41:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. COLE

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I WANT TO PRAISE THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE ARRIVED AT THIS. THIS IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST WORKING SUBCOMMITTEE ON A VERY HARDWORKING APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. 22 SEPARATE HEARINGS. VERY OPEN PROCESS. I THINK EVEN THE MINORITY DISAGREE WAS SOME OF THE DECISIONS WERE MADE, BUT WOULD AGREE THEY WERE MADE FAIRLY, OPENLY, TRANSPARENTLY, AND BY VOTES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE DID. USUALLY WHEN YOU COME TO THIS FLOOR, YOU COME TO DEBATE AND TO DISAGREE. WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AS WE WORK THROUGH THE MAIN LEGISLATION AND THE MANY AMENDMENTS WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY WILL BE OFFERED. BUT I WANT TO FOCUS TODAY ON AN AREA OF BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S THE DECISION THAT IS WERE MADE REGARDING FUNDING IN INDIAN COUNTRY AND NATIVE AMERICAN PROGRAMS. MR. SPEAKER, OUR CHAIRMAN GENEROUSLY MENTIONED AND APPROPRIATELY MENTIONED THE HARD WORKS THAT MR. MORAN AND MR. DICKS DID IN SETTING THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING BUILT UPON THIS YEAR. WHAT HE WAS TOO MODEST ABOUT WAS HIS OWN ROLE FIRST AS A RANKING MEMBER AND THEN AS THE CHAIRMAN AND ALSO SEEING AN APPROPRIATE FOCUS WAS PLACED UPON INDIAN CONTRY. FRANKLY WHILE I DISAGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IN MANY PLACE, I WANT TO THANK THEM AS WELL BECAUSE IN MANY CASES THEY HAD GREAT SUGGESTS, THEY -- SUGGESTIONS, THEY CERTAINLY PUT FORWARD SERIOUS PROPOSALS AND THEY HAVE VERY EASY TO WORK WITH IN AMERICAN -- NATIVE AMERICAN ISSUES. MOST IMPORTANTLY FROM AN APPROPRIATION STANDPOINT THE DUMS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. THE BUREAU EVER INDIAN AFFAIRS FUNDING WAS CUT BUT CUT LESS THAN THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED. THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE GOT A 9% INCREASE, ALMOST $400 MILLION. YOU CAN RUN THROUGH THE PROGRAM. I.H.S. STAFFERING FOR NEW FACILITIES. 63 MILLION FULLY FUNDED AT THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. ROAD MAINTENANCE, 25 MILLION FUNDED AT THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. INDIAN GUARANTEED LOAN PROGRAMS, SOMETHING TO HELP TRIBES AS THEY MOVE INTO PRIVATE INDUSTRIES. ACTUALLY FUNDED ABOVE THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. CONTRACT SUPPORT COST, FULLY FUNDED, $228 MILLION. INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE, FULLY FUNDED, $574 MILLION.

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  • 02:43:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. COLE

    YOU VERY MUCH. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. CONTRACT SUPPORT COSTS, AGAIN FULLY…

    YOU VERY MUCH. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. CONTRACT SUPPORT COSTS, AGAIN FULLY FUNDED OR FUNDED ALT VERY NEAR WHAT THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LANGUAGE PUT IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE ACTUALLY FULLY FUNDED BY THE B.I.A. SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALWAYS -- HAS NOT ALWAYS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. AGAIN, IMPORTANT LANGUAGE ON JOINT VENTURES WHEREBY WE ENCOURAGE TRIBES TO TAKE SOME OF THEIR REVENUE, WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, REINVEST IN HEALTH CARE FACILITIES, OTHER NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN INDIAN COUNTRY. I SAY ALL THIS JUST TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE WE HAVE SERIOUS DISAGREEMENTS AND SERIOUS DEBATES, AND WHILE WE MADE VERY HARD DECISIONS BECAUSE OVERALL FUNDING IN THIS BILL IS AS CHAIRMAN SIMPSON SUGGESTED DOWN 7% FROM LAST YEAR AND CERTAINLY WELL BELOW THE REQUEST THAT THE PRESIDENT MADE, IN THIS AREA DEFENDING ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGED POPULATIONS IN THE COUNTRY, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE CAN BE EXCEPTIONALLY PROUD OF WHAT WAS DONE AND THE PRIORITIES WHEN WE PUT, AGAIN, THE MOST CHALLENGED PEOPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH ON THAT COMMITTEE IN THE MOST FAVORED POSITION. THAT HASN'T ALWAYS HAPPENED. I WANT TO THANK MY FRIEND, CHAIRMAN SIMPSON, FOR MAKING SURE IT HAPPENED. MY FRIEND, MR. MORAN AND MR. DICKS FOR DOING THE SAME. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:45:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM OKLAHOMA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE…

    FROM OKLAHOMA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED. . MORE -- MR.

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  • 02:45:18 PM

    MR. MORAN

    FOR GENERAL DEBATE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 5 1/2 MINUTES AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 5 1/2 MINUTES AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES.

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  • 02:45:26 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. BISHOP.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE F.Y. 2012…

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE F.Y. 2012 INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM. NOT ONLY AM I DEEPLY TROUBLED BY THE BILL'S LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT THAT WILL CREATE JOBS, GROW THE ECONOMY AND PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAS INCLUDED SEVERAL DOZEN EGREGIOUS SPECIAL INTEREST POLICY EARMARKS IN THE BILL THAT WILL UNDERMINE OUR NATION'S CLEAN WATER AND ENVIRONMENT. WE HEARD FROM OUR FRIENDS ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE THAT WE MUST DEAL IN THESE TRYING ECONOMIC TIMES. WE HEARD FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HE BELIEVES THAT MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE CUT ARE GOOD PROGRAMS BUT WE MUST BE WILLING TO MAKE CUTS TO REDUCE OUR GROWING DEBT. THE BILL CUTS $2.1 BILLION IN 2011 LEVELS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND OTHER AGENCIES. IF WE CUT THOSE BUSH TAX CUTS FROM THE HOUSEHOLDS OF THOSE EARNING $1 MILLION OR MORE, WE COULD PRESERVE THESE CRITICAL AGENCIES IN LESS THAN 18 DAYS. 18 DAYS. THE BILL PROVIDES $1.4 BILLION LESS FOR THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND, A FUND THAT IS CRITICAL TO BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE BUSH TAX CUTS WE COULD RE-ESTABLISH OUR COMMITMENT TO CLEAN WATER WITHIN 12 DAYS, AFFECTING ONLY THOSE TAX CUTS FROM PEOPLE WHO MAKE $1 MILLION A YEAR OR MORE. THAT'S A REASONABLE PRICE TO PAY FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD RESULT. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE HAVE HEARD REPEATEDLY WE MUST DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO PREVENT TAXING OUR NATION'S JOB CREATORS, A SENTIMENT WITH WHICH I AGREE IN PRINCIPLE. HOWEVER, LET US BE CLEAR THAT IN MY DISTRICT AND IN DISTRICTS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY IT IS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS THE JOB CREATOR. THE ECONOMY OF MY DISTRICT DEPENDS ON CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR AND SAFE SWIMMABLE BEACHES. THE CUTS IN THIS BILL PLACE ALL OF THESE IN JEOPARDY. IF THE REPUBLICAN PRIORITIES IN THIS BILL PREVAIL, WE COULD PUT AN EFFECTIVE TAX RATE OF ZERO IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE NO INCOME AND NO INCOME MEANS NO JOBS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:47:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED. SIMPSON SIMPSON -- MR.

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  • 02:47:55 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE CHAIRMAN. I YIELD TO THE MEMBER EMERITUS OF SEVERAL SUBCOMMITTEES, THE…

    THE CHAIRMAN. I YIELD TO THE MEMBER EMERITUS OF SEVERAL SUBCOMMITTEES, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. LEWIS.

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  • 02:48:04 PM

    MR. LEWIS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP APPRECIATION OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE RANKING MEMBER, ESPECIALLY FOR THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS THEY HAD REVIEWING ALL OF THE PROGRAMS OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. TAKING US BACK TO REGULAR ORDER IN ALMOST UNPRECEDENTED FORM, MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC GETS A CHANCE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR VIEW AS TO HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE WORKING. AS WE MEET TODAY, THE COUNTRY IS FACED WITH A CRISES REGARDING OUR DEBT. SHOULD WE RAISE THE NATIONAL DEBT CEILING OR NOT? AND THAT DEBATE IS SWIRLING AROUND WHETHER WE SHOULD REDUCE SPENDING OR WE SHOULD INCREASE TAXES TO FUND ADDITIONAL SPENDING DESIRED BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE FORMER MAJORITY. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WE ARE AT A CRISES POINT IN TERMS OF SPENDING. WITH THAT BACKDROP, WE CAN HEAR THE SAME DEBATE TAKING PLACE IN THIS VERY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION. PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR E.P.A., FOR EXAMPLE. THE FACT IS THAT MOST OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE OVERFUNDED RELATIVE TO JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND THE DEBATE AND THE CONCERN IS THE DISCRETION ABOUT A DESIRE FOR MORE SPENDING OR A LACK OF INCREASED FUNDING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE WISH LIST OF MANY AROUND HERE. THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE OUGHT TO BE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF HOW PROGRAMS HAVE WORKED AND NOT WORKED. I'VE HEARD MANY COMPLAIN ABOUT AIR QUALITY QUESTIONS TODAY BY THE OTHER SIDE. IT WAS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MY PRIVILEGE TO WRITE THE TOUGHEST ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS IN THE COUNTRY RELATIVE TO IMPROVING AIR QUALITY. YEARS AGO AS WE DISCUSSED IMPLEMENTING THOSE POLICIES IN MY STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CENTER OF DISCUSSION WAS TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUS UPON THE REAL PROBLEMS. WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF STATIONARY SOURCES WE SET THEN VERY QUICKLY, VERY EASILY, UP TO 97%-PLUS OF THEIR POLLUTION. THE REAL PROBLEM LIES WITH THE AUTOMOBILE, DOING SOMETHING SERIOUS ABOUT THAT AND WHAT PEOPLE DO DRIVING THEIR CARS IS THE KEY TO THE QUESTION. E.P.A. HAS FAILED US IN MANY, MANY A WAY DEALING WITH THESE MAJOR CHALLENGES, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE RAISED IS ILLUSTRATED BY THE ONE ENDANGERED SPECIES I MENTIONED. IF I COULD HAVE 30 SECONDS.

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  • 02:50:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. LEWIS

    THE ENDANGERED SPECIES IS THE DESERT TORTOISE. WE COULD PLANT ENDSLESS…

    THE ENDANGERED SPECIES IS THE DESERT TORTOISE. WE COULD PLANT ENDSLESS NUMBER OF EGGS IN THE EAST MOHAVE. THE E.P.A. DECIDED TO IGNORE AND THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS DECIDED TO IGNORE THAT POE -- POTENTIAL, SAYING IT TOOK TOO LONG TO GROW TO ADULTHOOD. IN THE LAST 15 YEARS HAD WE DONE THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ENDANGERED SPECIES. WE KNOW THEY ARE AT THE ARMY NATIONAL BASE WHERE THEY TOOK CARE OF THE ANIMALS VERSUS WHAT WE DID IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THE E.P.A. DESERVES SOME SERIOUS REVIEW AS WELL AS AUTHORIZATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:51:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 02:51:26 PM

    MR. MORAN

    AT THIS TIME I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM…

    AT THIS TIME I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, AN EXTRAORDINARY CHAMPION OF THE ENVIRONMENT, MR. BLUMENAUER.

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  • 02:51:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

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    MR. BLUMENAUER

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S COURTESY. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE COMING TO THE…

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S COURTESY. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE COMING TO THE FLOOR HAVING TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS BILL. THERE'S NOBODY IN CONGRESS THAT I HAVE MORE RESPECT AND AFFECTION FOR THAN THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN. BUT THIS BILL IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY THE REPUBLICAN BUDGET GIMMICK LAST WEEK IS A FOOL'S AIRENED. IF ENACTED -- ERRAND. IF ENACTED THE PUBLIC WOULD BE OUTRAGED. JUST TALK TO ANYBODY IN YOUR HOME COMMUNITY DEALING WITH THINGS LIKE THE REVOLVING FUND FOR SEWER AND WATER. THIS BILL IS NOT BALANCED. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN FEES AND CHARGES FROM PEOPLE WHO PROFIT FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS BILL, BUT, NO, INSTEAD WE ARE SHIFTING COSTS TO THE PUBLIC AND DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING MORE MONEY TO SOME OF THE SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT PROFIT FROM THESE ACTIVITIES. WE ARE SLASHING THINGS THAT MATTER TO MOST AMERICANS. THE ABILITY OF THE E.P.A. TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES AND THEIR ENVIRONMENT. LAND ACQUISITION TO PROTECT AMERICAN TREASURES. IT'S GOING TO COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN RURAL AND SMALL TOWN AMERICA WHERE PEOPLE RELY ON OUR OPEN SPACES, OUR PUBLIC LANDS, OUR PARK AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. IT SHORTCHANGES AMERICA'S FUTURE. THE JIHAD AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE CONTINUES FOR MY FRIENDS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE AISLE, AND IT'S IRONIC. WHEN PEOPLE CAN BARELY WALK OUTSIDE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH DROUGHT, FLOOD, WILDFIRES, EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE SCIENTISTS TELL US THAT IT'S RELATED TO HUMAN ACTIVITY AND THIS BUDGET REDUCES OUR ABILITY TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS. WELL, I AGREE THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB. IN PART BECAUSE OF THE UNREALISTIC NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM. BUT SADLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE BILL AT ITS ENTIRETY, I MUST TAKE GENTLE EXCEPTION TO CHAIRMAN ROGERS SAYING WE ALL SUPPORT THE CORE MISSION OF E.P.A. SADLY, ANYBODY WHO READS THIS BILL UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND IT'S BEING BROUGHT TO US IN A WAY THAT SIMPLY DOES UNDERMINE THAT CORE MISSION THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO AMERICANS, TO OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR FUTURE.

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  • 02:54:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO HAS ONE MINUTE.

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  • 02:54:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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  • 02:54:49 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 30 SECONDS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. MORAN

    SECONDS. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN PREFER TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. WELL, MR.…

    SECONDS. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN PREFER TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE REALITY IS THAT THIS IS A BAD BILL. THERE MAY BE SOME GOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, LIKE THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT THE FACT IS THIS WOULD SEVERELY RESTRICT OUR GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR AIR AND WATER. IT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY CUT PROGRAMS THAT I THINK MANY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE FOR GRANTED. OUR ENVIRONMENT WILL BE SPOILED BY THIS BILL IF IT BECOMES ENACTED, SO I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT THIS BODY VOTE AGAINST IT. AND WITH THAT WE'LL YIELD BACK WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE.

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  • 02:55:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    MEMBERS FOR THE DEBATE THAT HAS GONE ON ON THIS BILL. I NOTICE THAT…

    MEMBERS FOR THE DEBATE THAT HAS GONE ON ON THIS BILL. I NOTICE THAT MEMBERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE CONTINUALLY REFER TO SOME OF THE POLICY REVISIONS IN THIS BILL IS POLICY RIDERS, SPECIAL INTEREST LEGISLATION. THEY WERE CALLED EARMARK LEGISLATION IN THIS BILL. BUT THEY WERE SPECIAL INTEREST. LET ME TELL YOU THE ONLY SPECIAL INTEREST THAT I CARE ABOUT RIGHT NOW ARE THE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY LOOKING FOR A JOB. AND IF YOU TALK TO ANY BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTRY, THE ONE THING THEY WILL TELL YOU IS THE UNCERTAINTY CREATED BY THE POTENTIAL REGULATION AND PROPOSED REGULATION BY THE E.P.A. IS STOPPING THEM FROM EXPANDING THEIR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO IDEA, NO IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO HIRE A NEW EMPLOYEE. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST WET BLANKET ON OUR ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE TODAY. TO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM. WE NEED TO REIN THEM BACK IN BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTAL PLEA OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT'S WHAT IN BILL DOES. THIS IS UNDER AN OPEN RULE. THAT MEANS MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA, IF THEY CAN GET A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES TO REMOVE SOME OF THESE THINGS, THEY CAN REMOVE THEM. I SUSPECT MORE WILL BE ADDED RATHER THAN REMOVED AS THIS BILL MOVES TO ITS FULL CONSIDERATION. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:57:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. BOTH SIDES HAVING YIELDED BACK,…

    GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. BOTH SIDES HAVING YIELDED BACK, ALL TIME FOR GENERAL DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE. THE AMENDMENT PRINTED IN SECTION 2 OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 IS ADOPTED. DURING CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL FOR FURTHER AMENDMENT, THE CHAIR MAY ACCORD PRIORITY AND RECOGNITION TO A MEMBER OFFERING AN AMENDMENT WHO HAS CAUSED IT TO BE PRINTED IN THE DESIGNATED PLACE IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. THOSE AMENDMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED READ. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 02:57:49 PM

    THE CLERK

    IT ENACTED THAT THE FOLLOWING SUMS ARE APPROPRIATED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF…

    IT ENACTED THAT THE FOLLOWING SUMS ARE APPROPRIATED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012, NAMELY, TITLE 1, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, MANAGEMENT OF LAND AND --

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  • 02:58:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    MR. SIMPSON

    THE AMENDMENT WILL BE CONSIDERED EN BLOC AND BE CONSIDERED IN THE READING.

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    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. SPEAKER MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE AMENDMENT BE…

    MR. SPEAKER MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED AS READ.

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  • 02:58:27 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT BEFORE US MAKES SEVERAL TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING…

    THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT BEFORE US MAKES SEVERAL TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING CHANGES TO THE BILL. THESE ARE ALL NONE CONTROVERSIAL CHANGES AND THEY HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE MINORITY. I BELIEVE THE MINORITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MINORITY AND I URGE ITS ADOPTION.

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  • 02:58:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. BOTH SIDES YIELD. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. BOTH SIDES YIELD. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO, MR. SIMPSON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO.

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  • 02:59:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI RISE?

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    CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENTERING INTO…

    CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENTERING INTO A COLLOQUY WITH THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE.

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  • 02:59:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM MISSOURI IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO DISCUSS AN IMPORTANT AND URGENT MATTER.…

    MR. MORAN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO DISCUSS AN IMPORTANT AND URGENT MATTER. AS THE CHAIRMAN KNOWS, THERE ARE TWO ACTS THAT SEEK TO CONSERVE MARINE MAMMALS. THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND THE MARINE MAMMALS PROTECTION ACT. I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE THE MERITS OF THOSE ACTS BUT TO DISCUSS AN INADVERTENT AND UNEXPECTED CONSEQUENCE OF THEM.

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  • 02:59:52 PM

    MR. CLAY

    IS WHAT SEEMS TO BE A CONTRADICTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROTECTION OF…

    IS WHAT SEEMS TO BE A CONTRADICTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROTECTION OF POLAR BEARS, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE MAY BE HAPPENING AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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  • 03:00:08 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI.…

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI. THE LAW WHOSE INTENT IS TO PROTECT MAY BE UNINTENTIONALLY CAUSING HARM AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:00:17 PM

    MR. CLAY

    ARE CORRECT. THIS IS AN URGENT ISSUE AS WE KNOW OF POLAR BEARS ARE…

    ARE CORRECT. THIS IS AN URGENT ISSUE AS WE KNOW OF POLAR BEARS ARE SPECIFIC BEARS THAT ARE IN DANGER OF BEING LOST AND WHICH COULD BE SAVED BY IMPORTATION INTO THE UNITED STATES. . WHILE IT WAS THE INTENT OF CONGRESS TO PROTECT THESE ANIMALS, THE ACTS WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE BUREAUCRATIC OBSTACLES TO COMMON SENSE AND TO SAVING THEIR LIVES. SOME BACKGROUND IS IN ORDER. MR. CHAIRMAN, SECTION 101 OF THE MARINE MAMMALS PROTECTION ACT ESTABLISHED A MORATORIUM ON THE IMPORTATION OF MARINE MAMMALS. HOWEVER, SECTION 102 AND 104 OF THE ACT ALLOW FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS FOR THE IMPORTATION OF MARINE MAMMALS UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW, THE ACT GENERALLY PROHIBITS PERMITS FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY OF MARINE MAMMALS FROM A SPECIES OF STOCK DESIGNATED AS DEPLETED. WHICH IS DEFINED AS ONE THAT IS LISTED AS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES OR A THREATENED SPECIES UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. ON MAY 15, 2008, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR LISTED THE POLAR BEAR AS A THREATENED SPECIES UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND SINCE THEN NO PERMITS FOR THE IMPORTATION OF POLAR BEARS FOR THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE ANIMAL OR FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC DISPLAY HAVE BEEN ISSUED BY THE SECRETARY. THE ACT DOES REQUIRE THAT CONSERVATION PLANS FOR TAKING ANIMALS INCLUDE PROPOSALS TO ENHANCE THEIR HABITAT WHICH IN THIS CASE IS IMPOSSIBLE. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE POLAR BEAR WAS LISTED AS THREATENED IS THE LOSS OF THEIR HABITAT. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT AND WE URGE THE SECRETARY TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING A FINAL DETERMINATION ON THESE PERMITS. THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT SUCH TAKINGS BE FOR SCIENTIFIC PURPOSES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT ESTABLISHING SUCCESSFUL CAPTIVE BREEDING PROGRAMS FOR A THREATENED SPECIES FITS INTO THE CONGRESS' INTENT FOR SCIENTIFIC PURPOSES. DECLINING HABITAT CONDITIONS FOR THE POLAR BEAR AND INCREASING NUMBER OF HUMAN-BEAR INTERACTIONS HAVE RESULTED IN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF POLAR BEARS BROUGHT INTO TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT CAPTIVITY IN CANADA IN RECENT YEARS, INCLUDING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF NONRELEASEBLE ANIMALS AND OFTEN CUBS. TO DATE INSTITUTIONS CANNOT HOUSE ALL OF THESE BEARS AND ANY ANIMALS NOT PLACED IN SUITABLE FACILITIES COULD BE EUTHANIZED OR LEFT TO DIE IN THE WILD. THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA HAS PASSED LEGISLATION ALLOWING SUCH BEARS TO BE EXPORTED FROM CANADA FOR PURPOSES OF CAPTIVE MAINTENANCE AND PUBLIC DISPLAY AT ACCREDITED ZOOLOGICAL INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES. THESE ARE INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE UNDERGONE A THOROUGH AND REGULAR ROY ROUSE REVIEW AND -- AND RIGOROUS REVIEW AND INSPECTION PROCESS. PRIOR TO ISSUING THOSE PERMITS THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR SHOULD DETERMINE THE INSTITUTION IS ACCREDITED BY THE ASSOCIATION OF ZOOS AND AQUARIUMS AND MEETS SPECIFIC PUBLIC DISPLAY CRITERIA AS DETERMINED BY THE SECRETARY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT UNDER THESE ACTS THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR MAY ISSUE PERMITS FOR THE IMPORTATION INTO THE U.S. OF LIVE POLAR BEARS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC DISPLAY AT APPROPRIATED, ACCREDITED ZOOLOGICAL INSTITUTIONS. SUCH IMPORTATION WILL BENEFIT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE ANIMAL OR IS OTHERWISE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSERVATION OF THE POLAR BEAR. IN ADDITION TO OTHER AREAS, THE SECRETARY'S AUTHORITY IS GRANTED UNDER THE MARINE MAMMALS PROTECTION ACT, SECTIONS 102-B AND 104-C. AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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  • 03:04:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. DICKS

    THE GENTLEMAN THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FROM

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    MR. CLAY

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI AND WANT TO BE CLEAR AND I HOPE THAT THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE HEARS CLEARLY THAT UNDER THESE ACTS THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR MAY ISSUE PERMITS FOR THE IMPORTATION INTO THE UNITED STATES OF LIVE POLAR BEARS FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC DISPLAY AT APPROPRIATE, ACCREDITED ZOOLOGICAL INSTITUTIONS UPON FINDING THAT SUCH IMPORTATION WILL BENEFIT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE ANIMAL OR AS OTHERWISE -- OR IS OTHERWISE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONSERVATION OF THE POLAR BEAR. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR RAISING THIS MATTER AND FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:05:33 PM

    MR. CLAY

    THE CHAIRMAN AS WELL AS THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. DICKS, FOR YIELDING MORE…

    THE CHAIRMAN AS WELL AS THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. DICKS, FOR YIELDING MORE TIME AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:05:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, MANAGEMENT OF LANDS AND RESOURCES,…

    BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, MANAGEMENT OF LANDS AND RESOURCES, $918,227,000. IN ADDITION.

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  • 03:05:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA, PAGE 2, LINE 20, INSERT AFTER THE DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA, PAGE 2, LINE 20, INSERT AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT --

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  • 03:06:11 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE CONSIDERED AS HAVING BEEN READ.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT RESERVE.

  • 03:09:38 PM

    MR. MORAN

    WHY I'D URGE SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 03:10:59 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MY FRIEND AND…

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM VIRGINIA. HONORING OUR NATION'S OBLIGATIONS TO AMERICAN INDIANS AND ALASKAN NATIVES IS AN UNSHAKABLE BIPARTISAN SENTIMENT SHARED BY MEMBERS OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE AND IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THIS BILL THAT I AM MOST PROUD OF. THIS BILL INCREASES FUNDING FOR INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE BUSINESS $392 MILLION OVER THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WHILE EVERYTHING ELSE, ALMOST VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IS BEING CUT. A 10% INCREASE THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE RARE AND BY FAR THE LARGEST INCREASES IN THIS BILL. THIS BILL INCLUDES THE SAME $19 BILLION CUT FOR SANITATION FACILITIES THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE PRESIDENT AND I NOTE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE BUDGET WAS AN ADDITIONAL $162 MILLION HIGHER THAN THIS BILL. THE PROBLEM IS THE OFFSET, THE B.L.M.'S MANAGEMENT OF LAND RESOURCES ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN CUT BY 43.-- $43.5 MILLION BELOW THE F.Y. 2011. THIS ACCOUNT FUNDS THE MANAGEMENT OF THE B.L.M.'S MORE THAN $245 -- 245 MILLION SERVICE ACRES AND SUBSURFACE ACRES, FURTHER CUTS TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM PROUD OF THE INCREASES WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE IN THIS BILL AND IN PREVIOUS BILLS BY MY PREDECESSORS, MR. MORAN AND MR. DICKS. YOU BET I AM. WILL I CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR MORE FUNDING FOR INDIAN COUNTRY DESPITE THE ATTACKS FROM VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER INTEREST GROUP WHO ISN'T HAPPY WITH THEIR SHARE OF THE PIE? YOU BET I WILL. WILL I STAND BY AND LET MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM VIRGINIA CONTINUE TO SYSTEMATICALLY DISMANTLE THE BUDGET OF THE LARGEST LAND OWNER IN THE WEST, THE B.L.M.? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:12:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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  • 03:12:57 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I MOVE THE STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DICKS

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MR. DICKS

    MY FRIEND, MR. MORAN'S AMENDMENT. WHICH WINE CREASE FUNDING FOR THE INDIAN…

    MY FRIEND, MR. MORAN'S AMENDMENT. WHICH WINE CREASE FUNDING FOR THE INDIAN FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. THE AMENDMENT WOULD PROVIDE $18 MILLION FOR THIS IMPORTANT HEALTH PROGRAM WHICH WOULD BRING THE FUNDING LEVEL BACK UP TO THE ENACTED LEVEL FOR THIS YEAR. THE OFFSET FOR THIS INCREASE COMES FROM A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT HELP SUPPORT THE PRIVATE SECTOR ENERGY AND LIVESTOCK INDUSTRIES. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT IS A VERY GOOD DEAL FOR THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER. AND BY THE WAY, THESE KINDS -- IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO -- OUT IN INDIAN COUNTRY, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE, I CAN THINK OF THE INDIANS IN MY DISTRICT IN MASON COUNTY, WASHINGTON, WHERE THEY HAVE VERY SERIOUS NEED FOR NEW SANITARY FACILITIES AND ACROSS INDIAN COUNTRY THIS IS STILL A MAJOR PROBLEM AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GROUP OF SCIENTISTS A FEW YEARS AGO WHO WERE ASKED, WHAT WAS THE GREATEST THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE 20TH CENTURY TO IMPROVE HEALTH CARE? AND IRONICALLY THEY CAME UP WITH SURES AND SANITARY FACILITIES -- SEWERS AND SANITARY FACILITIES WAS THE THING THAT IMPROVED HEALTH CARE AROUND THE WORLD MOST SUBSTANTIALLY. THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE PROGRAM, TO CONSTRUCT SANITARY FACILITIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS AMENDMENT, IMPROVES THE LIVES OF SOME OF OUR POOREST FELLOW CITIZENS. THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE PROGRAM PROVIDES FUNDING FOR PEOPLE WHO OFTEN LACK BASIC SANITARY FACILITIES SUCH AS THE DELIVERY OF PORTABLE WATER TO THEIR HOMES. FOR ME THE CHOICE IS SIMPLE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CHOOSE TO HELP PROVIDE BASIC SANITATION TO NATIVE AMERICANS BY MAKING SMALL CUTS TO PROGRAMS THAT ASSIST THE ENERGY AND LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY. THIS IS A GOOD AMENDMENT AND SHOULD BE ADOPTED. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA RISE?

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    THE LAST WORD, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM MINNESOTA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. MCCOLLUM

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO OFFER SUPPORT FOR THE MORAN AMENDMENT,…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO OFFER SUPPORT FOR THE MORAN AMENDMENT, FOR PROVIDING MORE ACCESS TO CLEAN DRINKING WATER AND TO CHAIRMAN SIMPSON'S POINT, WE DID DO A GOOD JOB OF WORKING TOGETHER TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN INDIAN COUNTRY AND WE DID THAT WORKING TOGETHER. . ONE OF THE AREAS WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER IS IN THE AREA OF INDIAN SANITATION. WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THIS FUNDING BACK TO WHERE WE HAD IT BACK IN 2011, NOT A CUT. AND A WAY WE'RE ASKING TO DO THIS, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF GRAZING BECAUSE I OFFERED THE AMENDMENT IN FULL APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, IS TO ASK CATTLE RANCHERS TO PAY A FAIR FEE, A FEE OF $1.35 IS LESS, THAN LIKE MR. MORAN POINTED OUT, IS LESS FOR STATES FOR USE OF THEIR PUBLIC LANDS. AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS IN SOME INFORMATION GATHERING I DID THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR CHARGES FOR THE USE OF THEIR LANDS. WHEN WE HAVE OUR LANDS AT $1.35, NOT ONLY IS IT A BENEFIT TO THE TAXPAYERS BUT IT LEADS TO OVERGRAZING OF OUR LANDS WHICH DOES NOTHING TO HELP IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF PUBLIC LANDS FOR FUTURE GENERATION OF CATTLE RANCHERS. $15 MILLION TO GRAZERS IN THIS BILL, $4 MILLION TO OIL AND GAS. AND THE NUMBERS AGAIN, $2 -- 230,000 AMERICAN HOMES WITHOUT SANITATION FACILITIES. 34,000 HOMES WITHOUT CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER. NO INFANT, NO CHILD IN THIS COUNTRY OR IN INDIAN COUNTRY SHOULD BE AT RISK OF INTESTINAL DISEASE THAT IS FOUND IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. LET US PROVIDE AT THE SAME LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT WE HAD IN THE F.Y. 2011 BILL FOR INDIAN SANITATION. LET US SUPPORT CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR OUR CHILDREN. I RISE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, AND I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 03:17:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI RISE?

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    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    AT THE DESK. MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR THIS BILL, THE…

    AT THE DESK. MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR THIS BILL, THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE --

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  • 03:17:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE CHAIR WOULD ADVISE THE GENTLEMAN THAT THERE IS…

    GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE CHAIR WOULD ADVISE THE GENTLEMAN THAT THERE IS A CURRENT BILL -- AMENDMENT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 03:18:09 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS, A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY VIRGINIA WILL…

    OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY VIRGINIA WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS RISE?

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    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    AMENDMENT TO BRING THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL IN LINE WITH THE…

    AMENDMENT TO BRING THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL IN LINE WITH THE R.S.C. BUDGET. MR. CHAIRMAN, CREDIT RATING AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE THREATENING TO DOWNGRADE OUR DEBT, AND NOT BECAUSE WE WON'T PASS A DEBT CEILING INCREASE BUT MORE SO BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT PASSED A CREDIBLE PLAN TO PAY THAT DEBT BACK. EVERY CHILD BORN IN AMERICA TODAY OWES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER $46,000 AND BILL BILL RISES EVERY DAY. THE TIMES WE ARE IN DEMAND WE LOOK AT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF EVERY FEDERAL DOLLAR WE SPEND AND THAT IS WHY I OFFER THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. IT MAKES CUTS ACROSS THE BILL WITH THE BIGGEST CUTS COMING FROM THE E.P.A. IN MY OPINION NO AGENCY IN MY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE MORE TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR ECONOMY THAN THE E.P.A. MR. HUMPS CAMP: THE E.P.A. IS NOT HELPING THE POWER PLANT. IT WOULD DELAY JOBS. 261 PERMANENT JOBS. THEY CAN'T BREAK GROUND. REGION SEVEN IS ASKING FOR CHANGES. ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS CONTINUE TO FILE LAWSUITS, A DEATH BY LITIGATION STRATEGY AGAINST THE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE MEMBERS SEEKING TO BUILD THIS PLANT. 351 PROPOSED SOLAR, WIND, WAVE, BIOFUEL, COAL, GAS, NUCLEAR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DELAYED OR CANCELED DUE TO SIGNIFICANT IMPEDIMENTS SUCH AS REGULATORY BARRIERS INCLUDING INEFFICIENT REVIEW PROCESSES AND THE INTENT OF LAWSUITS AND LEGAL ACTION. THE STUDY FOUND THESE PROJECTS WOULD PRODUCE 1.9 MILLION NEW JOBS DURING CONSTRUCTION AND ALMOST 800,000 JOBS IN AN ONGOING BASIS. THESE JOBS ARE SIMPLY IN LIMBO WHEN OUR ECONOMY SOUTHERLY NEEDS THEM. NOT A WEEK GOES BY WITHOUT THE E.P.A. INTRODUCING NEW REGULATIONS. WATER COOLING INTAKES FOR POWER PLANTS. DUST AND OUR PARTICULATE MATTER, OZONE, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THESE LISTS NOT ONLY DRIVE UP COSTS BUT CREATES HIGH LEVELS OF UNCERTAINTY IN OUR FRAGILE ECONOMY. WHEN THE E.P.A. ISN'T ARE HAMPERING OUR ECONOMY AT HOME, THEY ARE SENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS ABROAD. NEARLY $1.3 MILLION WAS SENT TO CHINA IN GREERCHTS THE PAST TWO YEARS. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. THESE GRANTS WERE SENT TO THE CHINA COAL INSTITUTE, THE CHINA UNIVERSITY OF PETROLEUM, THE CHINA URBAN CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN AND RESEARCH ACADEMY AND THE CHINA ASSOCIATION OF RURAL ENERGY INDUSTRY. I GUESS THE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT WE OWE THEM IS NOT ENOUGH. THE E.P.A. HAS LONG GIVEN UP SOUND SCIENTIFIC METHODS TO ENSURE A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT FOR LEFT-WING AGENDA THAT HAS LEFT OUR ECONOMY BILLIONS IN DEFICIT WITHOUT A CHANGE IN OUR AIR QUALITY. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS AMENDMENT ZEROS OUT FUNDING FOR THE N.E.A. AND THE N.E.H. FEDERAL SPENDING ON THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES HAS BEEN LONG CONTROVERSIAL. I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT PLAY SUCH A ROLE IN OUR SOCIETY. AND CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE FACING AN IMPENDING DEBT CRISIS. IF WE CANNOT MAKE RELATIVELY EASY DECISIONS TO ELIMINATE THIS FUNDING HOW ACCOUNT AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT US TO MAKE THE HARDER DECISIONS NECESSARY TO BALANCE OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? MR. CHAIRMAN, THE AMENDMENT ALSO ENDS FUNDING FOR NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA GRANTS. THIS PROVISION WAS INCLUDED AS A RESULT OF THE YOUCUT PROGRAM WHERE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COULD VOTE ON A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM TO CUT, AND THIS IS THE ONE THEY SELECTED. FEDERAL FUNDING FOR HERITAGE AREAS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SEED CAPITAL TO GET THEM UP AND RUNNING FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO REQUESTED THEM. MANY OF THE GRARNTS HAVE EXCEEDED THE 10-YEAR LIMITATION. EVEN THE PRESIDENT RECOMMENDED A 50% CUT IN HIS BUDGET FOR THEM WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THE BILL. BULINGTS IN THIS TIME OF MUCH-NEEDED FEDERAL RESTRAINT IT'S TIME TO CUT THEM ALTOGETHER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT AND TO HELP PUT US ON A TRACK TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET IN THE NEXT DECADE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 03:19:38 PM

    MR. HUMPS CAMP

    IN THE NEXT DECADE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 03:23:07 PM

    MR. MORAN

    STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IN OPPOSITION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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    MR. MORAN

    THIS AMENDMENT CUTS EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AND CULTURAL PROGRAM…

    THIS AMENDMENT CUTS EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AND CULTURAL PROGRAM ACROSS THE BILL. IT TOTALS $3 BILLION IN CUTS AND THEN PUTS THOSE FUNDS IN THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THE FUNDING IN THE BILL IS ALREADY GROCERY INADEQUATE, AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD CUT THE BILL BY MORE IN AN 10%. THE AMENDMENT ZEROS OUT U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSTRUCTION BY CUTTING $12 MILLION IT ZEROS OUT U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE LAND ACQUISITION BY CUTTING $15 MILLION IT ZEROS OUT FOREST SERVICE LAND ACQUISITION. IT ZEROS OUT THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. IT ZEROS OUT THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE HUMANITIES. IT CUTS STATE AND LOCAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE BY $770 MILLION. 30%. EVEN THOUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AS MR. DICKS HAS STATED, IS $688 BILLION. THIS AMENDMENT GOES ON TO CUT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY, WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT, ETC., ETC., ETC. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE SHOULD ALL APPOSE THESE DRACONIAN CUTS. THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE. I DON'T THINK THE GENTLEMAN PROPOSED THEM NECESSARILY KNOWS WHAT THE FULL IMPACT WOULD BE. I SUSPECT IF HIS CONSTITUENTS, LET ALONE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, KNEW WHAT WAS BEING ATTEMPTED THEY WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE SOUNDLY DEFEATED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 03:24:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:24:58 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO JOIN WITH MY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA IN…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO JOIN WITH MY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA IN SPEAKING AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT, ALTHOUGH I DO APPRECIATE MY FRIEND FROM KANSAS IN OFFERING IT BECAUSE THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THE BUDGET GIMMICK THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE REPUBLICANS LAST WEEK TO RESTRICT FUNDING TO 1966 LEVELS, A BUDGET LEVEL THAT WAS NEVER MET BY RONALD REAGAN WHO NEVER PROPOSED A BUDGET THAT WAS LESS THAN 21%. BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. IT'S WHY THE HOUSE IS GOING TO DEMONSTRATE THE SCHIZOPHRENIA ON THE PART OF MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE BECAUSE THIS AMENDMENT IS GOING TO BE REJECTED, I PREDICT. IT WILL BE REJECTED EVEN THOUGH THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD WISH ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. ZOURG OUT THE RESOURCES -- ZEROING OUT THE RESOURCES FOR THE NATIONAL HUMANITIES, THE N.E.A. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EMBRACES, SUPPORTS, HAVE DRAMATIC ECONOMIC IMPACT AT HOME THAT -- AT HOME, THAT LEVERAGES PRIVATE DOLLARS. BUT THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. I APPRECIATE IT BEING OFFERED. I WISH THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE AT IT CLOSELY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS IN THEIR EFFORTS GOING FORWARD. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL AT THIS POINT YIELD BACK BUT I DO HOPE THAT PEOPLE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT IS EMBODIED HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A TASTE OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE IN STORE FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

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  • 03:26:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. WHILE I APPRECIATE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. WHILE I APPRECIATE MY GOOD FRIEND FROM KANSAS' PASSION FOR CUTTING SPENDING, THE REALITY IS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS BILL COMES IN. WE PASSED A BUDGET EARLIER ON THIS FLOOR, WE'RE THE ONLY BODY TO PASS A BUDGET, THE SENATE HAS NOT PASSED ONE. WE WERE GIVEN AN ALLOCATION AND THIS BILL COMES UNDER THAT ALLOCATION. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE CANNOT BALANCE THIS BUDGET SIMPLY BY CUTTING. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT REDUCING FEDERAL SPENDING IS A NECESSARY PRIORITY AND A FIRST STEP TOWARD GETTING US TOWARD A BALANCED BUDGET. I THINK THAT THIS AMENDMENT GOES TOO FAR. IT WOULD TAKE $3 BILLION FROM THE NUMEROUS ACCOUNTS IN THIS BILL INCLUDING THE B.L.M., FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, N.E.A. AND N.E.H., AS WAS MENTIONED, AND TRANSFER IT TO THE BUDGET REDUCTION ACCOUNT. I THINK IT GOES TOO FAR BECAUSE THERE ARE -- WHILE I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN THAT HE EXPRESSED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THE E.P.A. IS HAVING IN THIS COUNTRY ON JOB CREATION, AND I SAID REPEATEDLY WHEN I GO OUT AND GIVE A SPEECH SOMEWHERE TO A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR A LION'S CLUB OR WHATEVER, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE INTERIOR BILL AND THE AGENCIES THAT WE FUND. AND WHEN I GET TO THE E.P.A., SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WILL SAY, JUST DEFUND IT, GET RID OF IT. IT'S THE FIRST APPLAUSE LINE IN THE SPEECH. THAT'S THE REPUTATION THE ATTEMPT HAS OUT IN THE PUBLIC. THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT THE E.P.A. IS HEADED. SO I APPRECIATE MY GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN ABOUT THE E.P.A. AS I EXPLAINED TO THE PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T JUST DO AWAY WITH THE E.P.A. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND THE UNDERLYING LAW REQUIRES YOU TO GET AN AIR QUALITY PERMIT OR WATER QUALITY FERMENT AND YOU CALL THE E.P.A. AND GET YOUR AIR QUALITY PERMIT AND NO ONE'S THERE TO ANSWER THE PHONE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT, THEN YOU GOT A PROBLEM. SO WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE E.P.A. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS REIN THE E.P.A. BACK IN BECAUSE I THINK THEY GOT AN OVERLY AGGRESSIVE AGENDA. AS I'VE SAID, I THINK THEY ARE THE BIGGEST WET BLANKET ON THE GROWTH OF OUR ECONOMY THERE IS. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:29:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA…

    YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 03:29:24 PM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:29:31 PM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT FROM US IN WASHINGTON CAN BE SUMMED UP IN ONE…

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT FROM US IN WASHINGTON CAN BE SUMMED UP IN ONE WORD, JOBS. J-O-B-S. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOW CONTROLLED THE HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 200 DAYS AND THEY HAVEN'T LIFTED A FINGER TO ADDRESS THE SINGLE OVERRIDING PRIORITY OF THE PEOPLE WE WORK FOR. THAT IS JOBS. IT'S A GROSS FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP. INSTEAD OF WHAT'S ON THEIR AGENDA THIS WEEK, ONLY THE BIGGEST ASSAULT ON ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SINCE SEVERAL DECADES. I HAVE YET, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO SEE A POLL WHERE AMERICANS ARE CLAMORING FOR THE CONGRESS TO UNDERNINE POLLUTION CONTROLS, DAMAGE PUBLIC HEALTH AND UNRAVEL A 40-YEAR BIPARTISAN CONSERVATION CONSENSUS. I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM OR INITIATIVE THAT IS SPARED UNDER THE BASE LEGISLATION AND THIS AMENDMENT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE. THE BASE BILL WOULD MEAN MORE TOXIC MERCURY, ARSENIC RELEASED IN OUR AIR. IT LEAVES THE AREA SURROUNDING THE GRAND CANYON, THE GRAND CANYON, AN ICONIC NATIONAL PARK, OPEN TO TOXIC URANIUM MINING. . IT CUTS THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND BY 78%, ITTARIES THE HEART OUT OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND GUTS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND IT REMOVES THOSE PESKY REGULATORY OBSTACLES THAT KEEP PESTICIDES OUT OF OUR WATERWAYS. THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO BLOCK E.P.A.'S EFFORTS TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES FROM STORM WATER RUNOFF AND TO ISSUE NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS FOR NEW VEHICLES AFTER 2016. EVERYTHING WE'VE PUT IN PLACE THAT MAKES SENSE -- IT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO GET RID OF. AND ON AND ON AND ON IT GOES, MR. CHAIRMAN. ONE EXTREME POLICY WRITER AFTER ANOTHER. NONE OF THIS WILL DO ANYTHING TO SAVE TAXPAYERS MONEY. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FRONTAL ASSAULT ON THE WATER WE DRINK, THE AIR WE BREATHE, THE PUBLIC LANDS WE CHERISH. THIS IS A BIG SPECIAL INTEREST GIVEAWAY AND THAT IS SIMPLE. IT'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF LEGISLATING TO BENEFIT FRIENDS AND BEN FACTORS, BIG OIL AND OTHER CORPORATE POLLUTERS AT THE EXPENSE OF NATIONAL INTERESTS. THE NATION'S NATURAL RESOURCES ARE NOT OURS TO EXPLOIT AT ALL WILL. THEY'RE ON LOAN TO US. WE MUST BE THE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS. IT WILL BE A MORAL FAILURE IF WE DON'T PASS AN IMPROVED ENVIRONMENTAL BILL AND IF WE DON'T PASS AN ENVIRONMENT ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION, ONE THAT IS IN EVEN BETTER CONDITION THAN THE ONE WE HAVE TODAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS DISGRACEFUL LEGISLATION WOULD DO. IT BREAKS A COVENANT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, A COVENANT THEY ACTUALLY TAKE FOR GRANTED. IT'S REPUBLICAN EXTREMISM RUN AMOK, ON STEROIDS, RAMPAGING OUT OF CONTROL. THE BASE BILL, H.R. 2584, MUST BE STOPPED. THIS AMENDMENT CANNOT SEE THE DAYLIGHT. I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:32:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN --

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  • 03:33:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

  • 03:33:04 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

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    MR. DICKS

    I WANT TO COMMEND CHAIRMAN SIMPSON FOR OPPOSING THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS AN…

    I WANT TO COMMEND CHAIRMAN SIMPSON FOR OPPOSING THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT WAY TOO FAR. WE'VE ALREADY, UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET REQUEST, THE BUDGET IS -- THIS BUDGET IS $3.8 BILLION, ALMOST $4 BILLION BELOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED. IT'S $2 BILLION BELOW THE F.Y. 2011 WHICH WE JUST PASSED A FEW WEEKS AGO AND IT WOULD HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT. WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT GROWING THE ECONOMY BY CUTTING THE BUDGET I WONDER WHAT SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS THEY ATTENDED. IN FACT, THERE WAS AN OUTSTANDING ARTICLE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT REALLY LAID OUT THE BASIC PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THE ECONOMY. AND THAT IS THAT CONSUMERS -- CONSUMER SPENDING HAS DROPPED BY 7%. SO WE NEED -- AND NORMALLY IN PREVIOUS RECESSIONS IT ONLY WENT DOWN 3%. SO THEN WHEN YOU CUT STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING, WHEN YOU CUT FEDERAL FUNDING YOU MAKE A BAD SITUATION WORSE IN TERMS OF CONSUMPTION. AND THAT IS WHY THE ECONOMY HAS SLOWED DOWN AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO GO UP AS A RESULT OF THESE KINDS OF RECKLESS CUTS BEING OFFERED BY THE OTHER SIDE. LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, THE FORMER ADMINISTRATOR FROM NEW JERSEY DID A STUDY OF WHAT THE BACKLOG ON WASTE WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES ARE AND IT WAS $66 88 BILLION. IT'S DEFINITELY GONE UP. AND YET WE'RE SLASHING AND WOULD SLASH AGAIN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE CLEAN WATER REVOLVING FUND AND THE SAFE DRINKING WATER REVOLVING FUND AND THE STATE AND TRIBAL ASSISTANCE GRANTS. THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE PROGRAMS THAT WE SHOULD BE PLUSING UP IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK . IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S ONE THING WE USED TO BE ABLE TO AGREE ON, BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN THIS HOUSE, THAT WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. THIS WILL PUT PEOPLE TO WORK. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE DEFICIT DOWN? NOT BY SLASHING GOVERNMENT SPENDING, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT BY PUTTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. WHEN YOU PUT THEM BACK TO WORK, THEY START PAYING TAXES, THEY START BUYING GOODS AND THAT WILL DRIVE DOWN THE DEFICIT, IT WILL DRIVE DOWN UNEMPLOYMENT. SO WHAT WE'RE HERE ABOUT AND THIS RECKLESS AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS AGAIN WOULD MAKE THIS A BAD SITUATION EVEN WORSE IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION. SO I AM PLEASED THAT THE MAJORITY IS RESISTING THIS ILL-THOUGHT-OUT AMENDMENT AND I URGE ITS DEFEAT.

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  • 03:36:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS RISE?

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  • 03:36:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE?

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    THE CHAIR

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. CLEAVER OF MISSOURI, PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER THE DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. CLEAVER OF MISSOURI, PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE BY $3 MILLION. PAGE 65, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $3 MILLION.

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  • 03:37:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:37:05 PM

    MR. CLEAVER

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THE COMMITTEE REPORTER THIS -- IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THE COMMITTEE REPORTER THIS -- IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT FOR THIS BILL, THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE INCLUDES LANGUAGE EXPRESSING CONCERNS IN REGARD TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S URBAN WATERS INITIATIVE AND PROVIDES NO FUNDING IN THIS BILL FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMITTEE'S RELUCTANCE TO EXTEND FUNDING FOR NEW, BROAD, CROSSCUTTING INITIATIVES GIVEN OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION, HOWEVER I FEEL THIS INITIATIVE HAS IMMENSE VALUE TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN URBAN CENTERS AND WHO RELY ON THE GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE CLEAN WATER TO DRINK AND USE IN THEIR DAILY LIVES. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD RESTORE PARTIAL FUNDING FOR THE URBAN WATERS INITIATIVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012. THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT INCREASE THE SPENDING BY ONE SINGLE PENNY. CITIES SHARE ONE KEY CHARACTERISTIC, THEY'RE FULL OF PEOPLE, BUILDINGS AND BUSINESSES BECAUSE EVERYONE SHARES THE SAME RELATIVE SPACE, AIR AND WATER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ARE CONCENTRATED IN SMALL AREAS INCLUDING WATERWAYS. URBAN WATERS TAKE ON LARGE AMENTS OF POLLUTION FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES INCLUDING INDUSTRIAL DISCHARGES, MOBILE SOURCES SUCH AS CARS AND TRUCKS, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL WASTEWATER, TRASH AND POLLUTED STORM WATER RUNOFF FROM URBAN LANDSCAPES. AS URBAN POLLUTIONS OFTEN SHARE CENTRALIZED WATER SOURCES THIS POLLUTION CREATES PUBLIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZARDS LIKE LOWER DRINKING WATER QUALITY AND WATER BODIES THAT AREN'T SAFE FOR HUMAN SWIMMING. THE E.P.A. LAUNCHED THE URBAN WATERS PROGRAM TO ADDRESS WATER QUALITY CHALLENGES IN THE URBAN WATERSHEDS AND BUILD CAPACITY OF DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES THROUGH PROJECTS THAT REVITALIZE THESE WATERSHEDS. IF MAINTAINED PROPERLY URBAN WATERS CAN ALSO YIELD POSITIVE IMPACTS FOR POPULATIONS IN BOTH URBAN AND UPSTREAM COMMUNITIES. REVITALIZATION OF WATERWAYS CAN SPUR PLOIST EMPLOYMENT -- -- CAN SPUR EMPLOYMENT --

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  • 03:39:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF SILENCE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY PROCEED.

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    MR. CLEAVER

    CHAIRMAN. COMMUNITY AS I CROSS THE COUNTRY ARE COMING TOGETHER, WORKING…

    CHAIRMAN. COMMUNITY AS I CROSS THE COUNTRY ARE COMING TOGETHER, WORKING WITH THE E.P.A., STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES AND TAKING STEPS TO ACCESS, RESTORE AND BENEFIT FROM THEIR URBAN WATERS AND THE SURROUNDING LANDS. MY MISSOURI FIVE DISTRICT, A LARGE SECTION OF WHICH IS KANSAS CITY, IS ONE SUCH COMMUNITY. THE E.P.A. REGIONAL STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THE KANSAS CITY AND LOCAL CITIZENS GROUPS TO MONITOR WATER SUPPLY AND PLAN AND CONDUCT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BLUE RIVER WATERSHED AND BRUSH CREEK, COVERING 270 SQUARE MILES, THE BLUE RIVER COMPLICES THE LARGEST WATERSHED -- COMPRISES THE LARGEST WATERSHED IN THE AREA. ITS DRAINAGE IS DIVIDED BETWEEN THE STATES OF KANSAS AND MISSOURI AND FLOWS THROUGH THREE COUNTIES, 12 CITIES AND 10 SCHOOL DISTRICTS. BUSH CREEK IS THE MOST VISIBLE TRIBUTARY TO THE BLUE RIVER AND RUNS COMPLETELY THROUGH AN AREA THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REBUILD CALLED THE GREAT IMPACT ZONE. THE E.P.A. IS MONITORING WATER QUALITY ALONG THE WATERSHED AND ASSISTING IN LOCAL EFFORTS TO CONDUCT LARGE SCALE WATERSHED PLANNING FOR BRUSH CREEK AND THE BLUE RIVER. WHETHER PART OF A CLEANUP LEADING TO WATER FRONT DEVELOPMENT OR PUTTING MONDAY TERING IN PLACE TO -- MONITORING IN PLACE TO ENSURE CLEAN DRINKING WATER WITH THE E.P.A.'S HEALTH, -- HELP, COMMUNITY GROUPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE, ENGAGING VOLUNTEERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THEIR WATER SAFE FOR MANY USES. THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES $3 MILLION FOR URBAN WATERS WITHIN THE E.P.A.'S ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT. THOUGH IT IS BY NO MEANS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THIS PROGRAM COULD UTILIZE. IT WILL ENSURE THAT THIS VITAL COMMUNITY-DRIVEN INITIATIVE CAN CONTINUE AND I ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:41:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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  • 03:41:57 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE $3…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE $3 MILLION FROM THE B.L.M. MANAGEMENT OF LANDS AND RESOURCES AND TRANSFER TO THE E.P.A.'S URBAN WATER INITIATIVE. THE D.L.M. MANAGEMENT OF LAND AND RESOURCES ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN CUT BY $43.5 MILLION BELOW THE F.Y. 2011 LEVEL. THIS FUNDS -- ACCOUNT FUNDS THE MANAGEMENT OF THEIR MORE THAN 245 MILLION SURFACE ACRES AND 700 MILLION SUBSURFACE ACRES, FURTHER CUTS TO THIS ACCOUNT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. THE ELIMINATED FUNDING FORER THE E.P.A.'S NEW INITIATIVE BECAUSE IT WAS DUPLICATIVE FUNDING. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER A WATER BODY IS IN A RURAL OR URBAN AREA, E.P.A. AND STATES SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE MOST IMPAIRED WATERS FIRST AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WELL ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS THAT HANDLE THERE. THERE IS NO NEED FOR A SEPARATE, DUPLICATIVE INITIATIVE IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR URBAN WATERS. IT ONLY RESULTS IN DUPLICATIVE SPENDING. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:42:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

  • 03:43:02 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    I SUPPORT THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CLEAVER'S,…

    I SUPPORT THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CLEAVER'S, AMENDMENT TO ADD A MODEST $3 MILLION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FOR THE URBAN WATER INITIATIVE WHICH THE SUBCOMMITTEE REFUSED TO FUND. E.P.A. AND THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR ANNOUNCED THE FIRST PILOTS OF THIS PROGRAM LAST MONTH. THEY INCLUDED BALTIMORE'S WATERSHED, THE ANT COSTIA WATERSHED IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND MARYLAND, THE BRONX AND HARLEM RIVER WATERSHEDS IN NEW YORK, THE SOUTH PLATTE RIVER IN DENVER, THE LOS ANGELES RIVER WATERSHED, THE LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN AREA IN NEW ORLEANS AND THE NORTHWEST INDIANA AREA. ALL AREAS IN DRASTIC NEED OF ATTENTION. THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT CHARGED E.P.A. WITH REPRIORITIZING FUNDS TO BEGIN THE PROGRAM IN FISCAL YEAR 2011 WITHOUT THE EXPRESS APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE. MY FRIENDS SHOULD KNOW THAT WHEN YOU FUND THE GOVERNMENT UNDER A CONTINUING RESOLUTION, THE AGENCY HAS MORE FLEXIBILITY. WE DON'T WANT E.P.A. OR ANY OTHER AGENCY TO DECIDE HOW TO PRIORITIZE FUNDING, THEN WE SHOULD PASS REAL BILLS AND FRANKLY THEY DID EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS URBAN WATER INITIATIVE. THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS. FURTHERMORE, DENYING FUNDS TO URBAN WATERSHEDS WHERE A MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION LIVES BECAUSE OF A DIST DISLIKE FOR ALL THINGS E.P.A. IS -- A DISLIKE FOR ALL THINGS E.P.A. IS SIMPLY UNFAIR TO ALL THESE COMMUNITIES. OBJECT A BIPARTISAN BASIS WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER TO PROVIDE NEEDED FUNDING FOR RURAL WATER PROGRAMS. WE AGREE THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. BUT WE SHOULD ALSO SHOW THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT TO THE URBAN WATERS INITIATIVE. THIS PROGRAM WILL ALSO CAPITALIZE ON WORK BEING DONE THROUGH E.P.A.'S BROADER GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS SUCH AS CHEST PEEK BAY AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN. THESE ARE TWO VERY CRITICAL WATER BODIES THAT ARE IN DANGE -- ARE ENDANGERED. I DON'T THINK I NEED TO GET INTO THE EXTENT OF THE ENDANGERMENT OF CHESAPEAKE BAY AND CERTAINLY NOT LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN. IMAGINE, JUST THINK BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW ORLEANS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. THIS OFFSET IS FROM THE MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT OF THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT WHICH IS ADEQUATELY FUNDED IN THE BILL. SO I REALLY DO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I WOULD URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME AND I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 03:45:45 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I JUST WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S REMARKS. I SUPPORT…

    I JUST WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S REMARKS. I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I CAN THINK BACK WHEN I WAS GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND WHEN LAKE WASHINGTON, WHICH IS BETWEEN SEATTLE AND BELLVIEW, WAS COMPLETELY POLLUTED. YOU COULDN'T SWIM IN IT. AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT THERE BONDED THEMSELVES AND COMPLETELY RESTORED THE LAKE AND TODAY THAT IS SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTY IN THE ENTIRE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. SO THESE URBAN WATER INITIATIVES ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE OF THOSE AREAS AND I THINK THIS IS A MODEST AMENDMENT AND I URGE OUR COLLEAGUES TO ACCEPT IT.

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  • 03:46:34 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 03:46:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

  • 03:46:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

  • 03:46:52 PM

    MR. MORAN

    A RECORDED VOTE ON THIS.

  • 03:46:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY OFFERED BY…

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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  • 03:47:16 PM

    MR. INSLEE

    TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS AND TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS AND TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 03:47:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:47:21 PM

    MR. INSLEE

    THAT NO BILL IS PERFECT BUT THIS BILL IS TRULY ATROCIOUS, AND I'VE COME…

    THAT NO BILL IS PERFECT BUT THIS BILL IS TRULY ATROCIOUS, AND I'VE COME HERE AS CO-CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT CAUCUS, A COALITION, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS BILL REPRESENTS A WHOLE SET OF FAILURES TO REALLY RECOGNIZE OUR STEWARDSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE GREATNESS OF THIS COUNTRY AND IT IS A GREAT COUNTRY. I FLY ACROSS IT EVERY MONDAY AND FRIDAY AND THE WORDS OF THE SONG THAT GOD'S GRACE WILL SHED ON THEE IN THIS COUNTRY REALLY IS TRUE BUT THIS BILL DOES NOTHING TO SUSTAIN THE PRECIOUS ASSETS OF CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER AND GOOD OPEN GROUND THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I'M SAD TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU LOOK OUT ACROSS AMERICA TODAY YOU'LL SEE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS OUT RECREATING. THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND WE HAVE IN OUR NATIONAL LANDS AND CLEAN WATER. BUT RIGHT NOW ALL THIS BILL IS IS A PLAYGROUND FOR THE SPECIAL INTERESTS. AND IT'S SAD TO SAY THAT A PARTY THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH HISTORICALLY HAS NOW TURNED ITS BACK ON THIS STEWARDSHIP RESPONSIBILITY. TEDDY ROOSEVELT, THAT STARTED THIS EFFORT, WOULD BE ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE TO SEE THIS WHOLESALE ABANDONMENT OF THIS STEWARDSHIP RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY. REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE WANT MORE CLEAN AIR. THIS BILL GIVES THEM LESS. THEY WANT MORE CLEAN WATER. THIS BILL GIVES THEM LESS. THEY WANT MORE OPEN GOOD GROUND. THIS BILL GIVES THEM LESS. AND THE REASON IS IT'S BASED ON A HUGE MISTAKEN BELIEF THAT DIRTY AIR'S GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY, THAT DIRTY WATER IS GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY AND THAT SPOILED LAND IS GOOD FOR OUR LAND. THESE ARE FALSEHOODS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT JOB CREATION, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME JOBS WE'D LIKE TO CREATE AND KEEP THAT ARE DAMAGED BY THIS BILL. RIGHT NOW IN PUGET SOUND IN WASHINGTON STATE WE HISTORICALLY HAVE GROWN SOME OF THE BEST OYSTERS IN THE WORLD IN HOOD CANAL AND OTHER PLACES. AND NOW BECAUSE OF WATER POLLUTION THE OYSTER INDUSTRY THAT EMPLOYS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN MY STATE IS ENDANGERED BY WATER POLLUTION. NOW, ONE WOULD THINK WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT JOBS IN EVERY INDUSTRY, INCLUDING THE OYSTER INDUSTRY, WE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PREVENTING POLLUTION THAT DESTROYS A WHOLE INDUSTRY, BUT, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BILL DOES. THIS BILL WEAKENS OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT AGAINST DIRTY WATER AND STORMWATER POLLUTION WHICH IS ENDANGERING JOBS IN MY STATE AND OTHER PLACES IN THIS COUNTRY. NOW, IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY, THEY'LL SAY THEIR JOBS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ACCORDING TO THIS BILL THEY ARE NOT, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT ARE THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THE ABILITY TO DEGRADE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. TAKE A LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE FUELS INDUSTRY THAT IS NOW GROWING ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, AND THEIR ABILITY TO CREATE MILLIONS OF NEW JOBS. A FEW WEEKS AGO I WAS AT A COMPANY CALLED TARGETED GROWTH. TARGETED GROWTH A FEW YEARS AGO HAD AN IDEA OF CREATING BIOFUELS THAT WE COULD FLY AIRPLANES IN AND FIVE YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT THIS WAS A PIPE DREAM. BECAUSE OF THEIR INTELLECTUAL PROWESS, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE FLEW THE FIRST TRANSOWES YANNICK FLIGHT USING BIO-- TRANSOCEANIC FLIGHT USING BIOFUELS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY. THAT'S SOMETHING ONE WOULD BE PROUD OF. ONE WOULD THINK IN A BILL LIKE THIS WE'D HELP NEW JOB-CREATING INDUSTRIES LIKE THAT GET STARTED. NO. WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS DEGRADE THE CLEAN ENERGY PARTS OF OUR LAW THAT WILL GIVE INSPIRATION AND INNOVATION IN THESE INDUSTRIES. THIS BILL MAKES THE ASSUMPTION THAT DIRTY AIR AND SICK PEOPLE ARE GOOD FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH. AND THAT IS NOT A RECIPE FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THIS COUNTRY. NOW, I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT ONE THING. THERE'S BEEN AN 80% REDUCTION IN OUR LAND AND CONSERVATION WATER FUND WHICH IS VERY DISTURBING. SHOULD BE TO DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE. THIS IS ONE THING I HOPE WE CAN FIX IN THIS BILL, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SO URBAN OR RURAL. I THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE CITY PARK IN MOSSY ROCK, WASHINGTON, THAT A POLICE OFFICER SAID, WHY DO I GET ALL THESE KIDS HANGING AROUND THE BARS, LET'S GET THEM OFF THE STREETS, AND USING SOME OF THESE FUNDS WE NOW HAVE A CITY PARK. WE'VE BUILT IN MOSSY PARK, WASHINGTON. IS THAT SUCH A DANGEROUS THING FOR OUR ECONOMY? I HOPE REPRESENTATIVE BASS' AMENDMENT IS SUCCESSFUL LATER ON. REJECT THIS BILL.

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  • 03:52:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON RISE?

  • 03:52:47 PM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I TAKE MODEST EXCEPTION TO THE COMMENTS OF MY GOOD FRIEND…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I TAKE MODEST EXCEPTION TO THE COMMENTS OF MY GOOD FRIEND FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON BECAUSE HAVING READ WILDERNESS WARRIOR BY TEDDY ROOSEVELT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT HE'S SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE AND THIS INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL REPRESENTS AN ADVOCATION OF SPOBBLINGT ON THE PART OF THE -- RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NOT ONLY DOES IT CUT MONEY FOR CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, IT'S POLLUTED WITH ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS. THESE RIDERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH REDUCING THE DEFICIT AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH UNDERMINING THE ROLE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN PROTECTING OUR NATION'S ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH. THIS BILL IS A PARTISAN ATTACK ON 40 YEARS OF PROGRESS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT. IT PUTS POLLUTERS OVER THE HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, PRIVATIZING THE BENEFITS FORCING THE CHILDREN AND ALEDERLY BEAR INCREASED COSTS. MOST ALL, THIS BILL IS A WASTE OF TIME. IN THE MIDST OF A LOOMING DEBT CRISIS WE'RE ENGAGING IN A RHETORICAL DEBATE ABOUT LEGS THAT MOVES US BACKWARDS AND WILL NEVER BECOME LAW, EITHER OVERTURNED IN THE SENATE OR VETOED BY THE PRESIDENT. THE REPUBLICANS WILL DEMONSTRATE ONCE GUENTHER' MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING INDUSTRY PROFITS THAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IN THE MIDST OF A HEAT WAVE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND AROUND THE COUNTRY, THE BILL PRETENDS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T HAPPENING AND EVEN PREVENTS THE E.P.A. FROM FOLLOWING THE LAW AND THE SUPREME COURT DECISION TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. IT THREATENS TWO MILLION JOBS AND OVER $363 BILLION OF THE NATION'S ECONOMY THAT DEPENDS ON THE SUPPORT OF THE PROGRAMS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR. IT IS PREVENTING CLEAN WATER IN THE STATE REVOLVING FUNDS, THE WATER AND CONSERVATION FUND, AS REFERENCED, 80% CUT. THE MOST DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN 45 YEARS. IT CUTS E.P.A.'S OPERATING BUDGET, OFFSITE BUDGET FOR DRILLING AND, MORE, LEAVE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY STRUGGLING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEIR CITIZENS AND EVEN COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAWS. IN OREGON, THE CUTS TO PUBLIC LANDS FUNDING WILL MEAN MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT SPECIAL PLACES LIKE THE COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE. IT WILL ALSO CRIPPLE LOCAL ECONOMIES. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT FOR EVERY $1 BILLION INVESTED IN INFRASTRUCTURE, BETWEEN 20,000 AND 26,000 JOBS ARE CREATED. IT CUTS ALMOST $1 BILLION FROM THE STATE REVOLVING FUND WHICH HELPS STATES FINANCE FEDERALLY MANDATED UPGRADES AND REPAIRS TO WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS. IT WILL PUT ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON ALREADY TIGHT LOCAL BUDGETS AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY INCREASING WATER AND SEWER RATES AND IN COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE WE'VE SEEN THEM SKYROCKET IN RECENT YEARS. THE BILL ROLLS BACK LIKE SAVING AND COST SAVING MEASURES UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS WHICH WERE ENACTED TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE THAT IT'S CHEAPER AND EASIER TO PREVENT TOXICS LIKE MERCURY AND ARSENIC FROM GOING INTO OUR WATER AND AIR IN THE FIRST PLACE THAN TRY AND REMOVE THEM LATER. THE E.P.A.'S STUDY SHOW THE BENEFITS FAR OUTWEIGH THE COSTS. THERE'S NO DOUBT WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEED AT RICKS HAVE ALL WRITTEN TO CONGRESS -- PEDIATRICS HAVE ALL WRITTEN TO CONGRESS OPPOSING THESE RIDERS. THE RIDERS CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED OTHER THAN FULFILLING SPECIAL INTERESTS' WISH LIST. OVERMINING AND ALSO TO CLARIFY THE JURISDICTION OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT TO A NEW MORATORIUM ON LISTINGS UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THE BILL COUNTLESS TIMES IGNORES THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND INSTEAD IMPLEMENTS WHAT POLLUTING INDUSTRIES HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR. WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING NEW MINING IN -- AROUND -- RATHER, THE GRAND CANYON? THE BILL RESTRICTS FUNDING FOR THE E.P.A. OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES. NOW, THIS IS AN OFFICE THAT PROVIDES TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHO WISH TO PLAN FOR INCREASED ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOUNTS FOR THE CHANGES IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND DEMOGRAPHIC IMPACTS. THIS OFFICE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR OVER 15 YEARS. IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY USEFUL TOOL TO HELP COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND HOW TO PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER, HOW TO COAX MORE VALUE. THEY CAN ONLY HELP ONLY 9% OF THE APPLICANTS. NOW WOULD NOT BE THE TIME, IT WOULD SEEM, TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR COMMUNITIES WHO WANT TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH IN A THOUGHTFUL AND SUSTAINABLE FASHION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL. WE CAN AND MUST DO BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

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  • 03:58:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 03:58:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:58:09 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COLLOQUY.

  • 03:58:14 PM

    MR. SERRANO

    ENTER INTO A COLLOQUY WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS…

    ENTER INTO A COLLOQUY WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. SIMPSON -- SIMPSON I'D BE GLAD TO. MR.

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  • 03:58:29 PM

    MR. SERRANO

    CONGRESSMAN LATOURETTE ENTERED AN AMENDMENT TO HELP OUR WATERS THAT ARE…

    CONGRESSMAN LATOURETTE ENTERED AN AMENDMENT TO HELP OUR WATERS THAT ARE STRONGER THAN THE FEDERAL INTERNATIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN EFFECT. AT THE TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASKED WE LOOK MORE THOUGHTFULLY OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT THIS AMENDMENT MIGHT VFMENT SINCE THAT MARKUP I HEARD CONCERNS FROM NUMEROUS GROUPS AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK. IN ADDITION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BOTH E.P.A. AND THE COAST GUARD ARE WORKING TOWARDS FINALIZING NATIONAL STANDARDS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING, AS WE MOVE TOWARDS CONFERENCE WITH THE SENATE, TO WORK WITH NEW YORK MEMBERS, CONGRESSMAN LATOURETTE AND OTHER GREAT LAKE MEMBERS TO HELP US FIND A WORKABLE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM OF INVASIVE SPECIES?

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  • 03:59:15 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    FROM NEW YORK HAS SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THESE CONCERNS. I AM AWARE THIS IS A…

    FROM NEW YORK HAS SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THESE CONCERNS. I AM AWARE THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT WILL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THE STATE OF NEW YORK. BEFORE CONFERENCE I'LL WORK WITH YOU, CONGRESSMAN LATOURETTE AND OTHER GREAT LAKE MEMBERS TO TRY TO RESOLVE THESE CONCERNS.

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  • 03:59:29 PM

    MR. SERRANO

    I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.

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    MUCH. I WANT TO COMMEND MR. SERRANO OF NEW YORK FOR THE REASONED AND…

    MUCH. I WANT TO COMMEND MR. SERRANO OF NEW YORK FOR THE REASONED AND BALANCED APPROACH HE'S TAKEN TO THIS RATHER THAN FOLLOWING A KNEE JERK REACTION ON COMMITTEE OR ON THE FLOOR, ETC.' RECOMMITTED TO WORKING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

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  • 03:59:52 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, NOT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, NOT THE STATE,…

    ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, NOT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, NOT THE STATE, ENACTED BALANCEASED WATER EXCHANGES THAT WOULD HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT IF THEY PUSHED THE ISSUES THAT IS 100 MORE TIMES MORE STRINGENT AND WOULD HAVE GONE TO 1,000 MORE TIMES MORE STRINGENT A YEAR AFTER THAT. ONLY TWO STATES, NEW YORK AND ALSO MINNESOTA, HAD SOMETHING IN THEIR REGULATIONS CALLED INNOCENT PASSAGEAGED THAT IS IT APPLIES TO ALL SHIPS PASSED THROUGH NEW YORK WATER WHETHER THEY TAKE ON DISCHARGED BALANCE ISED WATER. THE -- I TAKE A BACKSEAT TO NO ONE IN THIS CONGRESS ON THE ISSUE OF ENDANGERED SPECIES IN THE GREAT LAKES. THE FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION I WROTE WITH JOHN GLEN, THE INVASIVE SPECIES IN 1996, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION BY THE NEW YORK PORT AUTHORITY WOULD CRIPPLE AND PERHAPS ELIMINATE COMMERCE ON THE GREAT LAKES. SO THIS DESERVES THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. IT DESERVES OUR STUDY. AND I WOULD AGAIN COMMIT TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. SERRANO, TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE CHAIRMAN TO FIND A WAY THAT SOLVES THIS HORRIBLE PROBLEM OF INVASIVE SPECIES OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT DOESN'T STOP INTERSTATE COMMERCE ON THE GREAT LAKES. AND I YIELD BACK AND I THANK YOU. .

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  • 04:01:18 PM

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

  • 04:01:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

  • 04:01:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN AND MY COLLEAGUES, I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.

  • 04:01:31 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON THE HOUSE…

    AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. I KNOW THE NEWS IS ALL ABOUT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING AND ALL THE CUTS OR REVENUES THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED BEFORE WE CAN GET LEGISLATION TO DO SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ROUTINELY DONE ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY DONE -- DONE, ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY DONE EVERY YEAR OR TWO FOR DECADES, BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE HOUSE FLOOR DESERVES THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS IS THE MOST ANTI ENVIRONMENTAL HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN HISTORY. THE NEW REPUBLICAN MAJORITY SEEMS INTENT ON RESTORING THE ERA WHERE THERE WERE NO CONTROLS ON POLLUTION FROM POWER PLANTS, OIL REFINERIES AND FACTORIES. THIS YEAR WE WITNESSED WEATHER DISASTER AFTER WEATHER DISASTER, THERE HAVE BEEN MASSIVE FLOODS, RECORDBREAKING FIRE, RECORDBREAKING DROUGHTS AND NOW RECORDBREAKING HEAT WAVES YET EARLIER THIS YEAR THE HOUSE PASSED A BILL THAT REPEALED E.P.A.'S SCIENTIFIC FINDING THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS OCCURRING. IT'S CAUSED BY MAN AND IS A SERIOUS THREAT. WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THESE WEATHER EVENTS AND CLIMATE CHANGE AND CARBON EMISSIONS. WE'RE NOT HEARING FROM IT WHEN WE WATCH THE DAILY NEWS SHOWS AND WE'RE NOT HEARING IT FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION. I JUST SENT RECENTLY A LETTER TO SECRETARY CHU, THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY, A NOBEL PRIZE WINNER, ASKING HIM TO SPEAK OUT. WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO WE CAN EDUCATE OUR COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. IN THIS BILL THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY WANTS TO BLOCK E.P.A. FROM ISSUING REGULATIONS TO REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS FROM POWER PLANTS AND OIL REFINERIES THAT ARE CAUSING THIS CATASTROPHIC CLIMATE CHANGE. THE MAJORITY ALSO WANTS TO BLOCK REGULATIONS TO CUT CARBON POLLUTION FROM MOTOR VEHICLES, EVEN THOUGH THESE REGULATIONS HELP BREAK OUR DANGEROUS DEPENDENCE ON OIL, SAVE AMERICAN FAMILIES MONEY AND CLEAN THE AIR WE BREATHE. THIS HOUSE CAN DENY SCIENCE, WE CAN AMEND OUR NATION'S LAWS, BUT WE CANNOT REWRITE THE LAWS OF NATURE. THE LONGER WE IGNORE THE SCIENTIFIC REALITY THAT OUR ACTIONS ARE DESTABILIZING THE ENVIRONMENT, DESTABILIZING OUR CLIMATE, THE MORE COSTLY AND DISRUPTIVE OUR RESPONSE WILL NEED TO BE AND THE MORE WE ENDANGER OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE. WHEN WE WERE DEBATING CARBON REGULATIONS EARLIER THIS YEAR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE CLAIM THAT THEY SUPPORTED REDUCTIONS IN WHAT THEY CALL REAL AIR POLLUTION, WHATEVER THAT MEANS. BUT IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE GUTTING THOSE PROTECTIONS AS WELL. THIS LEGISLATION INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT WILL BLOCK LANDMARK RULES TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN BY CUTTING AIR POLLUTION AND REDUCING TOXIC MERCURY POLLUTION . THE BILL BLOCKS CROSS-STATE AIR POLLUTION RULES, AN IMPORTANT RULE THAT IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT DIRTY POWER PLANT IN ONE STATE FROM CONTRIBUTING TO AIR QUALITY PROBLEMS IN OTHER DOWNWIND STATES. E.P.A. ESTIMATES THAT THIS RULE WILL PREVENT UP TO 34,000 PREMATURE DEATHS AND NEARLY TWO MILLION SICK DAYS A YEAR BEGINNING IN 2014. THE BILL INDEFINITELY DELAYS MERCURY AND AIR TOXIC STANDARDS FOR POWER PLANTS, MERCURY IS A POTENT NEURO TOXIN THAT DAMAGES BRAIN DEVELOPMENTS IN INFANTS AND CHILDREN, IMPAFERING OUR ABILITY TO THINK AND LEARN -- IMPAIRING OUR ABILITY TO THINK AND LEARN, E.P.A.'S MERCURY RULE WILL CLEAN UP THIS POLLUTION AND PREVENT 17,000 PREMATURE DEATHS EACH YEAR. REPUBLICANS LIKE TO ARGUE THAT ENVIRONMENT REGULATIONS MUST BE JUSTIFIED BY A REGULAR ROUSE -- RIGOROUS COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS. WELL, THESE REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY ANALYZED AND THEIR BENEFITS ARE 10 TIMES GREATER THAN THEIR COST AND YET THEY WANT TO STOP THOSE REGULATIONS FROM GOING INTO PLACE. THESE ESSENTIAL HEALTH PROTECTIONS ARE NOT BEING TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO COSTLY, THEY ARE BEING TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE OPPOSED BY POWERFUL SPECIAL INTERESTS LIKE OIL COMPANIES AND ELECTRIC UTILITIES. WE NEED TO STOP PUTTING THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS BILL POSES A CHOICE. ARE WE FOR PROTECTING PREGNANT WOMEN, INFANTS AND CHILDREN FROM TOXIC POLLUTION OR ARE WE FOR PROTECTING THE PROFITS OF SPECIAL INTERESTS? A STRONG AND VITAL E.P.A. IS IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST AND THE PUBLIC INTEREST. IF WE DISARM E.P.A. AS THIS BILL WOULD DO, THERE'S NO ONE TO STAND UP TO --

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  • 04:06:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 04:06:52 PM

    MS. CHU

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

  • 04:11:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

  • 04:11:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:11:18 PM

    MR. SERRANO

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME OF US GO HOME AND WE SPEAK TO…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME OF US GO HOME AND WE SPEAK TO DIFFERENT GROUPS ABOUT HOW CONGRESS CONDUCTS ITS BUSINESS, ONE OF THE PARTS OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT MAY BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE HAVE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE THAT WE RESPECT AND WE LIKE. AND SO ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES IT BECOMES DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF US WHEN, FOR INSTANCE, A PERSON LIKE MYSELF LOOKS AT A CHAIRMAN ROGERS OR A CHAIRMAN WOLF OR A MIKE SIMPSON, CHAIRMAN SIMPSON, AND WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE TOTALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT IT IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. YOU SAY TO A REPUBLICAN THESE DAYS, GOOD MORNING, AND HE OR SHE ANSWERS, CUT THE BUDGET. THE SKY IS BLUE, CUT THE BUDGET. WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO GET CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF SPENDING UNDER CONTROL. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME FOLKS, AND THIS BILL SHOWS THAT, CONTINUE TO TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND THAT, YES, WE MAY HAVE ECONOMIC ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, THAT'S A GIVEN. BUT WE ARE ALSO STILL AN PERHAPS FOREVER THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. HOW DID WE GET THERE? WE DIDN'T GET THERE BECAUSE WE DECIDED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO SIMPLY CUT THE BUDGET. WE GOT THERE BECAUSE WE INVESTED MONEY, BECAUSE WE CREATED, YES, RULES, BECAUSE WE CREATED, YES, LAWS, THAT PROTECTED OUR WAY OF LIFE THE WAY THAT WE WANTED OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE TREATED. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE BOARD NOW IS THIS BELIEF THAT IF YOU GET THE BUDGET DOWN TO A CERTAIN NUMBER, WHICH SOMETIMES, AND I SAY THIS PROFOUNDLY SARCASTIC, PERHAPS, SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT TO ZERO AND I DON'T-ASK, DON'T-TELL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS CONSTITUTIONALLY AFTER THAT, IF THE BUDGET GETS TO ZERO, BUT IF YOU GET IT DOWN, THEN THE COUNTRY WILL DO BETTER OF THE EVERYTHING WILL BE WELL -- BETTER. EVERYTHING WILL BE WELL. COUPLE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT WHILE SOME FOLKS ON THAT SIDE ARE IN FACT STRONG BELIEVERS, THAT YOU MUST CUT SPENDING -- BELIEVES THAT -- BELIEVERS THAT YOU MUST CUT SPENDING, OTHERS HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ROLL BACK LANGUAGE, TO ROLL BACK REGULATIONS THAT HAVE MADE THE ENVIRONMENT SAFER, THAT HAVE MADE OUR LIVES BETTER, THAT HAVE MADE US SAFER AS AMERICANS. AND SO THE PUBLIC IS BEING TOLD IT'S ABOUT CUTTING THE BUDGET. THE PUBLIC IS BEING TOLD IT'S ABOUT NOT HAVING A NATIONAL DEBT. THE PUBLIC IS BEING TOLD IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE OWE. YES, THAT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. BUT WHAT THE COUNTRY IS NOT BEING TOLD IS THAT, FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS BILL, THROUGH WRITERS, WE ARE GOING BACK PERHAPS NOT EVENLY TO THE 1960'S, BUT TO THE 1950'S OR EVEN THE 1940'S IN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND OTHER ISSUES. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO CONTINUE TO BE A VOICE ON THIS SIDE AND FOLKS ON THAT SIDE WHO BELIEVE AS I DO THAT THIS IS THE WRONG ROUTE TO TAKE, THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO STAND UP AND SAY WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES WE HAVE TO. BUT WE CAN'T THROW AWAY EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HAD, WE CAN'T THROW AWAY EVERYTHING WE'VE BUILT, WE CAN'T SIMPLY NOT INVEST IN THE FUTURE. I SIT ON OTHER COMMITTEES, COMMITTEES THAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST. SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW IN THIS COUNTRY THERE IS A PERSON, MALE OR FEMALE, SITTING WITH A WHITE ROBE IN A LABORATORY COMING UP WITH THE NEXT MEDICINE, THE NEXT VELCRO, IF YOU WILL, THE NEXT INVENTION THAT WILL MAKE US A BETTER NATION AND A BETTER SOCIETY AND HELP OURSELVES AND HETH HELP THE WORLD. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE BUDGETS AND THEY'LL BE COMING TO A FLOOR NEAR YOU PRETTY SOON, THOSE BUDGETS ARE DEVASTATED WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTING MONEY IN RESEARCH AND SO WHILE IT'S GOOD TO TELL THE PUBLIC, CUT THE BUDGET, WE NEED TO BE HONEST AND SAY, IN THE PROCESS WE MAY SET YOU BACK 30 OR 40 YEARS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. .

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  • 04:16:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:16:18 PM

    MR. SARBANES

    A TERRIBLE BILL FOR OUR COUNTRY AND REPRESENTS AN ASSAULT ON OUR…

    A TERRIBLE BILL FOR OUR COUNTRY AND REPRESENTS AN ASSAULT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT AND ACTUALLY, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS ASSESSMENTS ABOUT THIS BILL, THIS INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATIONS LEGISLATION FOR 2012 FROM DIFFERENT GROUPS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER AND THAT'S THE WORD THEY KEPT USING, ASSAULT. THIS IS AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN WATER. IT'S AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR. IT'S AN ASSAULT ON CONSERVATION. IT CONTINUES THE ASSAULT THAT WAS BEGUN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR WITH H.R. 1, TO COMPLETELY DISMANTLE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. AND I CONFESS TO YOU I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATIONS OF OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE. DO WE NOT BREATHE THE SAME AIR? DO WE NOT DRINK THE SAME WATER? DO WE NOT TRAVERSE THE SAME BEAUTIFUL TERRAIN ACROSS THIS COUNTRY? I CAN'T IMAGINE, I CAN'T FATHOM WHAT THE MOTIVATION IS TO ENGAGE IN THIS WHOLESALE ATTACK ON OUR ENVIRONMENT. LET'S LOOK AT THAT ATTACK. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CUT THE E.P.A.'S BUDGET -- THIS IS THE AGENCY THAT IS CHARGED WITH PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT -- TO CUT THAT BUDGET BY 18% BELOW 2011 LEVELS AND 40% BY 2010 LEVELS. I COME FROM THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. I GREW UP FISHING FOR CRABS ON THE EASTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND. MY GRANDMOTHER LIVED IN SALISBURY AND THAT'S WHERE WE USED TO GO DURING THE SUMMERS. THIS WOULD BE DEVASTATING FOR THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. IT CUTS FUNDING TO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PROGRAM, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO PUT THE BAY ON A POLLUTION DIET SO WE CAN CLEAN UP THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. BUT THIS WOULD UNDERMINE THAT. AND IT PUTS ALL THESE POLICY RIDERS ON IT, LOADED UP WITH POLICY RIDERS AND PREVENT THE REGULATION OF COAL ASH AS A HAZARDOUS WASTE. WE HAVE THAT IN MY DISTRICT. I WANT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK. BUT THIS BILL WOULD UNDERMINE IT. SO IT'S AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN WATER AND THAT AFFECTS THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. BUT LET'S LOOK WHAT ELSE IT DOES. IT'S AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR. THIS BILL, WITH ALL OF THESE POLICY RIDERS, WOULD BLOCK STANDARDS TO CUT AIR POLLUTION FROM CEMENT KILNS AND DELAYING POWER STANDARDS BY SIX MONTHS THAT WOULD REDUCE MERCURY ARSENIC AND LEAD IN THE AIR. DON'T WE WANT TO DO THAT? IT WOULD EXEMPT OIL COMPANIES, NOW THIS IS NO SURPRISE, THAT'S BECOME A COMMON PRACTICE. HOW MANY EXEMPTIONS CAN WE GIVE TO THE OIL AND GAS COMPANIES? IT WOULD EXEMPT OIL COMPANIES FROM COMPLYING WITH THE CLEAN AIR ACT IN OFFSHORE DRILLING PRAYINGS. IT'S AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR. A STUDY WAS DONE BY THE E.P.A. THAT SAID THE AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT IF MAINTAINED FROM THE PERIOD OF 1990 TO 2020 WILL RESULT IN $2 TRILLION IN SAVINGS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND PREVENT 30,000 DEATHS. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO UNDERMINE THE PROTECTIONS WITH RESPECT TO OUR CLEAN AIR? IT'S AN ASSAULT ON ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, TAKING FUNDING AWAY FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IN TERMS OF NEEDED CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS TO BE DONE. IT'S AN ASSAULT ON OUR NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGES. THE REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR OUR NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGES, THAT IS 120 ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ASSAULT ON CONSERVATION, REDUCING THE WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION FUND TO $66 MILLION, AN 80% CUT FROM 2011 LEVELS. BUT HERE'S THE GREAT SHAME OF IT. THE GREAT SHAME OF IT IS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE READY TO STEP UP AND BE STEWARDS OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY WANT TO DO THAT. THEY WANT TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THEIR OWN BACK YARDS. BUT THEY CAN'T DO IT IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISN'T THERE AS A PARTNER. I URGE DEFEAT OF THIS BILL. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:21:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND RISE?

  • 04:21:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:21:39 PM

    MR. HOYER

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WAS CONCERNED MAINLY ABOUT TWO…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WAS CONCERNED MAINLY ABOUT TWO THINGS IN THIS LAST ELECTION. A, JOBS. TRYING TO GET OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE TO EARN A LIVING. THEY ARE ALSO CONCERNED CORRECTLY ABOUT THE DEBT AND DEFICIT THAT CONFRONTS THIS COUNTRY. THOSE WERE THE TWO ITEMS THAT THEY WERE VERY FOCUSED ON AND CONCERNED ABOUT AND I THINK ALMOST EVERYBODY ON THIS FLOOR SHARES THEIR CONCERNS. I GOT NO MESSAGE FROM ANY VOTER THAT I OUGHT TO COME TO CONGRESS AND UNDERMINE THE AIR, WATER, LAND THAT THEY SURVIVE ON, RECREATE ON AND RELY ON FOR THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIVES, NOT ONE CONSTITUENT WHETHER THEY VOTED FOR ME OR AGAINST ME SAID UNDERMINE THE PROTECTIONS OF OUR LAND AND WATER AND AIR. NOT ONE. HOWEVER, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. NOT JOBS, NOT DEFICITS, BUT UNDERMINING THE INTEGRITY OF OUR AIR, OUR WATER AND OUR LAND. I RISE, THEREFORE, MR. SPEAKER, IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, WHICH PUTS SOME OF OUR NATION'S MOST PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES AT SEVERE RISK. THIS BLILL SLASHES FUNDING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BY NEARLY 20%. AFTER A YEAR IN WHICH ITS FUNDING ALREADY DECLINED BY 16%. THE RESULT OF THESE CUTS WILL BE AN AGENCY UNEQUIPED. NOW, MR. SPEAKER, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO ADDRESS YOU BUT UNDER THE RULES IF I DIDN'T ADDRESS YOU, I WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF AMERICA BUT THEIR CONCERNS OF THIS UNDERMINING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. AMERICANS WANT THE ENVIRONMENT PROTECTED. THEY DON'T WANT THAT EFFORT UNDERMINED. IT WILL MEAN HIGHER RISKS OF DIRT YEAR AIR, UNSAFE WATER AND CARBON POLLUTION IN OUR ATMOSPHERE. NO AMERICAN SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED WHEN THEY TALKED TO ME. THIS BILL INCLUDES A RIDER THAT WOULD DEFUND THE LISTING OF ENDANGERED SPECIES AND HABITAT, A TRUE FAILURE OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. PERHAPS WORST OF ALL, THIS BILL COMES WITH 39 SEPARATE ANTI-ENVIRONMENT RIDERS THAT CATER TO SOME OF OUR NATION'S MOST POWERFUL SPECIAL INTERESTS. NOW, MAYBE I MISSED IT. MAYBE THERE IS AN AMERICAN WHO SAID, PROTECT THE SPECIAL INTERESTS AND UNDERMINE OUR ENVIRONMENT, BUT GEE, MAYBE I MISSED TALKING TO THEM. MAYBE THAT WAS IT. THESE RIDERS WOULD ENDANGER AND EXPLOIT OUR PUBLIC RESOURCES INCLUDING THE GRAND CANYON AND COLORADO RIVER, QUALITY OF OUR NATION'S AIR AND WATER FOR THE PRIVATE GAIN OF JUST A FEW. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND WHICH RE-INVESTS MONEY WE CAN GAIN FROM OFFSHORE GAS DRILLING INTO PROTECTING OUR PUBLIC LANDS. NOW WE HAVE JUST SEEN A DRAMATIC ASSAULT ON OUR LANDS ON THE GULF COAST. IT'S CUT 78% FROM THE CURRENT YEAR'S FUNDING IN THIS BILL. COMMUNITIES WAITING FOR FUNDING FOR NEW SEWER AND DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS WILL FIND A 40% CUT. NO AMERICAN ASKED ME FOR THAT. IN 1995, THE VERY FIRST VOTE OF THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, 1995, THE VERY FIRST VOTE THE NEW REPUBLICAN MAJORITY CAST ON A BILL LIKE THIS ONE, ONE THAT ATTEMPTED TO SLASH THE E.P.A.. THE YEAR IS DIFFERENT, BUT THE POLICY IS THE SAME. THERE WAS ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE. THAT FAILED BILL HAD JUST 17 ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS. LESS THAN HALF OF THIS ONE. THIS ONE HAS 39. THESE PROVISIONS DO NOTHING TO CONTROL SPENDING. THEY ARE END RUNS SIMPLY AROUND LAWS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. NOW, AS THEN, THE WISH LIST DESERVES TO BE VOTED DOWN. REPRESENTATIVE BOTTLE EARTH A MEMBER OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE STOOD ON THIS FLOOR WHEN THAT 1995 BILL WAS OFFERED, A REPUBLICAN LEADER SAID DO NOT DO THIS TO OUR LAND, OUR AIR AND OUR WATER. LET ME QUOTE THE RISE WORDS OF THE RANKING MEMBER, MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND, CONGRESSMAN JIM MORAN AND I QUOTE, THERE ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO MAKE THIS CONTROVERSY BETWEEN HUMANS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. BUT THAT IS A FALSE ASSERTION. I URGE YOU TO READ THE BALANCE OF MR. MORAN'S QUOTE IN OPPOSING THIS BAD BILL. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:27:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE?

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  • 04:27:12 PM

    MR. GRIJALVA

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:27:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:27:22 PM

    MR. GRIJALVA

    IS WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST REGRESS I HAVE, DESTRUCTIVE AND SHAMELESS…

    IS WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST REGRESS I HAVE, DESTRUCTIVE AND SHAMELESS ATTACK ON OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, THIS COUNTRY'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND CONSERVATION IN OVER FOUR DECADES. THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE BACK DOOR CHANGES THAT 40 I HAD LOGICALLY POLICY-DRIVEN RIDERS IN LEGISLATION AND THE BIGGEST TO THE POLLUTERS WHO HELPED CRAFT THESE RIDERS AND ADDING THEM TO OUR LAWS. AND THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED ON THE RIDERS. RIDERS IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT LEGISLATE. IT IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH DEFUNDING AGENCIES, SUCH AS THE E.P.A., SO THAT THEIR OVERSIGHT IS WEAKENED AND UNFORTUNATELY BECOMES NONEXIST TANT. GIVING AWAY PUBLIC LANDS. THESE MECHANISMS ARE USED IN THIS LEGISLATION TO NOT ONLY UNDERMINE, BUT TO DISMANTLE PROTECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE LEGACY OF THIS NATION FOR YEARS UPON YEARS AND DECADES UPON DECADES. MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER ARE LEFT WITHOUT FUNDING TO PROTECT AMERICAN FAMILIES. AND THE LEGISLATION BEFORE US DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. IF THE REASON OF THE DEFICIT -- THE REASON THAT THIS IS BEING DONE AS WE HEAR FROM THE OTHER SIDE IS FOR DEFICIT REDUCTION, THAT SOUNDS HOLLOW AND CONTRIVED WHEN ONE MEASURES PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE CLEANUP. IT SOUNDS HOLLOW WHEN THE TAXPAYER SEES THE TAX BREAKS, PUBLIC RESOURCE GIVEAWAYS AND UNRELATED PRIVILEGES TO INDUSTRY AND BIG BUSINESS. IT SEEMS HOLLOW WHEN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TAXPAYER SUFFERS BOTH THE FINANCIAL AND HUMAN COST OF THIS LEGISLATION. LET ME USE ONE EXAMPLE OF A RIDER INTRODUCED BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM ARIZONA, A SON OF ARIZONA, TO THE GRAND CANYON. THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY DEFUND ANY OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY, TO ANALYZE THE CONSEQUENCES OF URANIUM MINING ON ONE MILLION ACRES AROUND THE GRAND CANYON. IF ANYTHING ELSE WERE TO BE AN IMPORTANT POINT FOR THIS CONGRESS, IT IS THE ICON OF ALL OUR NATIONAL PARKS, THE GRAND CANYON AND THE URANIUM MINERS IN THAT AREA HAS CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA AND NOW WITH THIS RIDER, WE ARE PERPETRATING THE SAME CLIMATE, THE SAME STRATEGY THAT HAS CAUSED THE PROBLEMS IN THE AREA. WE ARE JEOPARDIZING THE WATER, THE COLORADO RIVER AND WATER USERS IN NEVADA, CALIFORNIA AND ARIZONA. AND THEY USE AN EXPERT -- THEY TOUT AN EXPERT AS OF TODAY AND RECENTLY, A PERSON WHO RATIONALIZED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO REAL DAMAGE TO THE GRAND CANYON. ISN'T IT IRONIC AND INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THIS EXPERT IS SITTING ON 30 OR MORE MINING CLAIMS IN THE WITHDRAWAL AREA AROUND THE GRAND CANYON AND WOULD STAND TO DO VERY, VERY WELL FINANCIAL ABOUT SALE AND RESALE OF THESE CLAIMS. THIS IS THE EXPERT. . THIS LEGISLATION IS A FEEDING FRENZY FOR POLLUTERS, BIG OIL AND SPECULATERS WHO MAKE THEIR HUGE PROFITS BY CUTTING CORNERS, IGNORING REGULATIONS AND SKIRTING THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. NOW THEIR MISSION HAS AN EAGER PARTNER. THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS LEGISLATION AND TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE HEALTH OF OUR LEGACY AS A NATION. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:31:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:31:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, AS WE SIT AND ENDURE THIS MINI FILIBUSTER ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AS WE SIT AND ENDURE THIS MINI FILIBUSTER ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE REPUBLICANS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BILL AND THE ENVIRONMENT, I WANT TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE WRITERS ACTUAL I -- ACTUALLY GOT IN THE BILL.

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  • 04:31:48 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH THIS E.P.A.…

    A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH THIS E.P.A. THIS E.P.A. ADMINISTRATOR AND IT'S LIKE TALKING TO THIS LECTERN. NOTHING GETS THROUGH AND I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ONE PARTICULAR MATTER THAT I PUT IN THIS BILL THAT'S A WRITER AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE U.S. E.P.A. DRAFT NOTICE 2010-X AND THAT WAS A NOTICE THAT WENT OUT TO THE MANUFACTURERS OF LAWN FERTILIZER. NOW EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBER WOULD AGREE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MANUFACTURE LAWN FERTILIZER, WHAT THEY PUT IN THE BAG SHOULD BE SAFE, IT SHOULD NOT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT AND IT SHOULD ACTUALLY DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO AND THAT'S GROW GRASS OR DO SOMETHING ELSE. HOWEVER, THE E.P.A., BECAUSE THEY HAD PRECIOUS LITTLE TO DO, DECIDED THAT THEY WEREN'T CONTENT WITH REGULATOR WHAT WAS IN THE BAG, THEY WANT TO REGULATE WHAT'S ON THE BAG AND THAT'S A LIST OF INGREDIENTS BUT WHAT THE PRODUCT IS CALLED. SO DRAFT REGULATION 2010-X SAYS THAT THESE COMPANIES NEED TO REEVALUATE THEIR TRADEMARK NAMES, SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE THE 1960'S AND REMOVE THOSE THAT THE E.P.A. DETERMINES ARE MISLEADING TO THE PUBLIC. NOW, I SAT DOWN WITH MRS. JACKSON, THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE E.P.A., SHE SMILED AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME, I BROUGHT IT UP IN SUBCOMMITTEE LAST YEAR AND WITHDREW IT AT THE REQUEST OF THE THEN MAJORITY SO THEY'D WORK ON IT. WELL, IT'S STILL HERE. AND HERE'S A LIST OF THE WORDS THAT THEY DETERMINED THAT YOU CAN'T USE IF YOU'RE IN THE LAWN FERTILIZER BUSINESS. GERM SHIELD, 100% PROTECTION, PROFESSIONAL GRADE, PRO SAFE, SAFER, SAFEST, NATURAL, ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE AND GREEN. NOW, HOLD ON A MINUTE. THERE'S A COMPANY IN OHIO THAT'S CALLED SCOTT'S. I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE USE SCOTT'S PRODUCTS AND THEY MAKE A PRODUCT CALLED TURF BUILDER. THEY ALSO MAKE A PROFIT CALLED TURF BUILDER PRO. THIS DRAFT NOTIFICATION TELLS THEM THEY CAN'T CALL IT PRO ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S MISLEADING TO THE PUBLIC. EVEN THOUGH THE WORD PRO IS INSTALLED TO CREATE A BRAND THAT'S SMALL -- THAT SMALL HARDWARE STORES COULD -- -- COULD SELL, IT'S A NICHE BRAND FOR SMALLER RETAILERS BUT A YOU CAN'T CALL THAT IN A ANYMORE. YOU CAN'T CALL A FERTILIZER ANYTHING IF IT SAYS GREEN. NOW, MR. SPEAKER, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, GREEN WAS A COLOR. THIS FOLDER WAS GREEN. NOT ANYMORE. NOT ANYMORE. IF I CAN'T DEMONSTRATE THAT THIS FOLDER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH LIVEABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY, I AM MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS PROGRAM. NOW, THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY IN OHIO THAT'S OVER IN TOLEDO, IT'S CALLED -- THEY HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED ANDERSON'S GOLF PRO AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL IT GROLVE PRO ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE SEED AND THE WEED AND SEED ON THE GOLF COURSE, YOU COULD USE IT ON YOUR FRONT LAWN. SO THEY HAVE TO CALL IT ANDERSON'S PRO. THEY CAN'T CALL IT PRO ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'S MISLEADING. SO THEY CAN CALL IT HANDERSON'S AND HOPE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT. I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE REALLY BARELY SCRATCHED THE SURFACE ON THIS THING BECAUSE THE PRODUCT THAT SCOTT'S MANUFACTURES THAT I LIKE SO MUCH IS MIRACLE GROW. NOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE, MR. SPEAKER, HOW IS THE E.P.A. GOING TO BE ABLE TO CERTIFY WHEN I PUT THAT MIRACLE GROW ON MY TOMATO PLANT THAT A MIRACLE HAS OCCURRED? YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A TREMENDOUS BURDEN ON THE VATICAN, ALL THESE LITTLE OLD LADIES ARE GOING TO BE AT THE AIRPORT FLYING OVER TO ROME TO TALK TO THE COLLEGE OF CARDINALS AND SAY, DID A MIRACLE OCCUR? THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE WRITERS ARE IN HERE. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE. AND IF THEY WON'T TALK TO YOU, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION AS IS CONTEMPLATED BY THE CONSTITUTION , AS A CO-QUEAM BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT WE'VE DONE THAT AND -- CO-EQUAL BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT WE'VE DONE THAT AND I'M SORRY IT OFFENDS SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:35:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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  • 04:35:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THEY THINK OF OUR GREAT RESOURCES. NOW, FOR BIG OIL THAT PROBABLY MEANS…

    THEY THINK OF OUR GREAT RESOURCES. NOW, FOR BIG OIL THAT PROBABLY MEANS THE OIL THAT'S FOUND ON PUBLIC LANDS AND OFF OUR SHORES WHERE THEY CAN GET FOR A SONG AND CHARGE A FORTUNE, BUT FOR MOST AMERICANS IT'S THE SPACIOUS SKIES AND PURPLE MOUNTAIN MAJESTIES.

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  • 04:36:13 PM

    MR. HOLT

    AND THIS BILL, THIS LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE NOW HAS NO…

    AND THIS BILL, THIS LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE NOW HAS NO APPRECIATION FOR AMERICA'S PRICELESS RESOURCES. ACCORDING TO THE LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS, THOUGH, GOING FARTHER THAN JUST BEAUTIFUL VISTAS OR PURPLE MOUNTAIN IMAGINIESTS THIS BILL IS -- MAJESTY THIS BILL IS THE BIGGEST, IN THEIR WORDS, BIGGEST ASSAULT ON THE AIR WE BREATHE, THE WATER WE DRINK AND THE WILDLIFE AND WILD PLACES WE HOLD DEAR EVER TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS. CONTINUING THE CLEAN WATER NETWORK OR THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION OR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION OR PHYSICIANS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, THEY ALL GO ON TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUDGET CUTS OR POLICY WRITERS IN THIS LEGISLATION UNDERMINE THE LAWS THAT PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND REDUCE HEALTH CARE COSTS BECAUSE WE WILL LOSE THE PREVENTIONS THAT HELP REDUCE ADVERSE HEALTH OUTCOMES. IT WILL LEAD TO GREATER EXPOSURE THAT IS CANCEROUS, ASTHMA ATTACKS, STROKES, EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT VISITS. IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE BEAUTY OF THIS COUNTRY, ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT BE REASON ENOUGH TO TRY TO PRESERVE ALL THESE THINGS, IT IS FOR THE HEALTH OF AMERICA'S PEOPLE. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD PUT CHILDREN'S HEALTH AT RISK. AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT WOULD BE EXEMPTING OIL COMPANIES FROM COMPLYING WITH CLEAN AIR STANDARDS. WE CANNOT TOLERATE THIS. UNREGULATED DISCHARGE OF PESTICIDES INTO OUR WATERWAYS, WITH HOLDING FUNDING FOR -- WITHHOLDING FUNDING FOR WILD LANDS, ALLOWING URANIUM MINING ALL AROUND THE GRAND CANYON. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED ATTACK AND NOT JUST ON THOSE THINGS I'VE MENTIONED, NOT JUST ON LIFE-SAVING PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTIONS AND ESSENTIAL POLLUTION CONTROL, IT'S AN ATTACK ON SCIENCE AS WELL. THIS BILL INCLUDES REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, RESEARCH AND COMPLIMET AND LAND USE -- COMPLIMET AND -- CLIMATE AND -- CLIMATE AND LAND USE. LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE. THE SATELLITE JUST IN THE PAST MONTH HAS BEEN USED TO TRACK THE LARGEST FIRE IN ARIZONA'S HISTORY. YET BECAUSE OF THE CUTS THAT WOULD COME TO PASS THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION, THE DATA COMING FROM THE LANDSAT SYSTEM WOULD GO UNRECORDED, UNANALYZED, UNUSED. TALK ABOUT FALSE ECONOMY. AND IT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED ATTACK ON OUR PUBLIC LAND AS. -- LANDS. THE LARGEST CUT IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND THAT MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE HAVE SEEN IN THEIR SERVICE AND I MUST SAY IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO A STATE LIKE MINE, NEW JERSEY. MY CONSTITUENTS RESIDE IN THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED STEA STATE IN THE UNION AND YET THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH THEIR VOTES THEIR SUPPORT FOR OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION, FOR FIGHTING SPRAWL, FOR PROVIDING THEIR KIDS, OUR KIDS WITH SAFE PLACES TO EXPERIENCE THE OUTDOORS. MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A LONG LIST OF QUESTIONS AND A LONG LIST OF REASONS AND YOU'LL BE HEARING STILL MORE ABOUT WHY THIS IS TERRIBLE LEGISLATION. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:40:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM MASSACHUSETTS RISE? THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 04:40:28 PM

    MS. TSONGAS

    IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL, H.R. 2584, AND AM…

    IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL, H.R. 2584, AND AM DISAPPOINTED THAT MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE ARE USING THIS APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS TO PUT AT RISK THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE, THE WATER THAT WE DRINK, OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS BILL WOULD DISMANTLE THE CLEAN WATER ACT WHICH WOULD NOT ONLY UNDERMINE OUR CONSTITUENTS' ACCESS TO CLEAN AND HEALTHY WATERWAYS BUT ALSO WOULD MEAN THE LOSS OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS. MY DISTRICT, THE FIFTH DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS, IS HOME TO DOZENS OF REMARKABLE RIVERS AND STREAMS WHICH ARE A KEY PART OF THE HISTORY, CULTURE, ECONOMY AND NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE FIFTH DISTRICT. MOST OF OUR RIVERS HAVE EXCELLENT WATER QUALITY AND IT IS COMMON ON WARM DAYS TO SEE PEOPLE SWIMMING, FISHING AND PADDLING. BUT OUR RIVERS WERE NOT ALWAYS SOS WHO PITBLE. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE MERRIMAC RIVER, ONE OF THE LARGEST WATERSHEDS IN NEW ENGLAND, AND THE RIVER THAT FLOWS THROUGH MY HOMETOWN, WAS A DEPOSITORY FOR WASTE AND POLLUTION. FOR 150 YEARS THE MERRIMAC RIVER WAS ONE OF THE 10 MOST POLLUTED RIVERS IN THE COUNTRY. IT WAS THE CLEAN WATER ACT ENFORCEMENT OF THE EARLY 1970'S THAT CHANGED THE FUTURE OF OUR RIVERS. BECAUSE OF THE ACT AND THE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY AFFORDED THE E.P.A., A CLEANUP PLAN WAS PUT IN PLACE AND POLLUTERS AND VIOLATORS WERE HELD RESPONSIBLE. SLOWLY THE MERRIMAC AND SURROUNDING RIVERS WERE MONITORED AND IMPROVED TO MEET THE CLEAN WATER STANDARDS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED TODAY. THIS IS JUST ONE OH SO FORTUNATE EXAMPLE BUT RERP CATED ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY -- RECOMMEND CATED ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY TO OUR GREAT FORTUNATE AND THAT OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. WHILE SOME STATES MAY ADEQUATELY PROTECT THEIR WATERS ON THEIR OWN, NOT ALL DO. AND THAT IS WHY CONGRESS HAS GIVEN THE E.P.A. THE AUTHORITY TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. WE MUST CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN SAFEGUARDS FOR PRIVILEGERS -- RIVERS AND STREAMS, TO ENSURE THAT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AMERICANS ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF CLEAN, SAFE WATER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THE SHORTSIGHTED PROPOSAL TO UNDERCUT THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND HELP PROTECT AMERICA'S CLEAN WATER LEGACY. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:42:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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    >>

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:43:02 PM

    MS. DELAURO

    APPROPRIATIONS BILL PUT FORWARD BY THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY. ONCE…

    APPROPRIATIONS BILL PUT FORWARD BY THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY. ONCE AGAIN THEY HAVE PUT A RADICAL OUT OF TOUCH AGENDA AND THE DESIRES OF BIG OIL AND POLLUTERS ABOVE THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE NEED TO CREATE JOBS AND THE HEALTH OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL IS MORE THAN JUST A DANGER TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF AMERICAN FAMILIES, IT REPRESENTS THE WORST ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY. THIS LEGISLATION SLASHES FUNDING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BY 18% AND THE MAJORITY HAS SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT IT OPPOSES ANY ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION THAT MIGHT HURT THE BOTTOM LINE TO POLLUTERS. BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. THIS LEGISLATION ALSO SLASHES THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND WHICH HELPS STATES TO FINANCE WASTEWATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS BY PROVIDING 5% OF THE RESOURCES -- 55% OF THE RESOURCES MEANING THAT AMERICA'S WATERWAYS WILL BE PUT AT RISK OF SEWAGE AND URBAN RUNOFF POLLUTION AND GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS WILL BE LOST. AND IT CUTS THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND WHICH PROTECTS NATIONAL PARKS, FORESTS, WILDLIFE REFUGEES FROM DEVELOPMENT BY 78%. IN ADDITION, THIS PARTISAN LEGISLATION INCLUDES AT LEAST 38 POLICY WRITERS THAT FOR PURELY IDEOLOGICAL REASONS WOULD HARM AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THE BILL WOULD PROHIBIT THE E.P.A. FROM IMPLEMENTING RULES TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES FROM POWER PLANT POLLUTION. IT BLOCKS THE E.P.A. FROM RESTORING CLEAN WATER PROTECTIONS FOR MORE THAN HALF OF OUR NATION'S STREEMS AND 20 MILLION ACRES OF WETLANDS. MEANING THE DRINKING WATER OF 117 MILLION AMERICANS IS PUT AT RISK. IT BLOCKS THE E.P.A. FROM MOVING FORWARD ON FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARDS THAT WILL REDUCE FOREIGN OIL IMPORTS AND CUT POLLUTION. IT BLOCKS THE E.P.A. FROM REGULATING CARBON POLLUTION AT POWER PLANTS, REFINERIES AND INDUSTRIAL SITES AND EVEN STOPS INDEFINITELY LONG OVERDUE STANDARDS TO CONTROL AIR POLLUTION FROM TOXIC MERCURY AND DANGERING PREGNANT WOMEN, INFANTS AND CHILDREN. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD OPEN UP MORE OF OUR COAST LINES TO OFFSHORE DRILLING, ONE MILLION OF ACRES OF LAND AROUND THE GRAND CANYON, A NATIONAL TREASURE, TO TOXIC URANIUM MINING. MR. SPEAKER, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WERE KNOWN AS DEFENDERS OF THE ENVIRONMENT, IT WAS A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, TOAD TEDDY ROOSEVELT, WHO INAUGURATED THE NATIONAL FOREST SERVICE AND WHO WORKED TO CONSERVE 230 MILLION ACRES OF AMERICANLAND INCLUDING THE GRAND CANYON WHICH IS NOW PUT AT RISK. HE CALLED THE CANYON, AND I QUOTE, A NATIONAL WONDER, WHICH IS IN KIND ABSOLUTELY UNPARALLELED THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD. LEAVE IT AS IT IS, HE SAID, YOU CANNOT IMPROVE ON IT. THE AGES HAVE BEEN AT WORK ON IT AND MAN CAN ONLY MAR IT, END QUOTE. MENT RICHARD NIXON BROUGHT LIFE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. ANOTHER PRESIDENT, JOSH BUSH SENIOR EXPANDED THE CLEAN AIR ACT EVEN FURTHER TO PROTECT AMERICANS' HEALTH. AND YET, TODAY, REPUBLICAN MAJORITY BRINGS US AN INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL WHICH UNDOES ALL OF THIS GOOD WORK, WHICH ENDANGER AMERICAN FAMILIES THREATENS TO DO PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES IN THE MAJORITY KS RETURN TO YOUR ROOTS TO ONCE AGAIN PUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEFORE THE INTERESTS OF POLLUTERS AND TO OPPOSE THIS DISASTROUS LEGISLATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:46:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

  • 04:47:01 PM

    MR. TONKO

    THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. TONKO

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL. INSTEAD OF WORK OING A BIPARTISAN…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL. INSTEAD OF WORK OING A BIPARTISAN SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE LOOMING DEFAULT CRISIS OR TO CREATE AMERICAN JOBS, TODAY HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR H.R. 2485, WHICH WOULD GUT POLLUTION CONTROLS AND HEALTH PROTECTIONS TO GIVE BIGGER PROFITS TO BIG OIL AND OTHER SPECIAL INTEREST POLLUTERS. BY ATTACHING THREE DOZEN POLICY RIDERS TO THIS BILL, THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO USE THIS TO MAKE BACK DOOR CHANGES OF FEDERAL LAWS THAT PROTECTS CLEAN WATER, AIR, LAND AND WILDLIFE. IT WOULD CRIP WILL FEDERAL AGENCIES CHARGED WITH PROTECTING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. THIS IS A NEW LOW FOR THE 112TH CONGRESS WHICH HAS SEEN THE NEW HOUSE G.O.P. MAJORITY OVERTURN THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND REPEAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AND PULL THE PLUG ON AMERICAN JOBS AND CLEAN ENERGY INNOVATION AND MANUFACTURING. NOW THIS LEGISLATION WOULD OVERTURN 40 YEARS OF BIPARTISAN PROGRESS, PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT. ONE AREA I CHOOSE TO FOCUS ON IS THEY CONTINUE TO TAX THE CLEAN AIR ACT WHICH HAVE SAVED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES AND IMPROVE THE HEALTH OF AMERICANS OF EVERY STATE AND PROTECTS THE AIR WE BREATHE AND WATER WE DRINK. IT PROTECTS OUR CHILDREN FROM DEVELOPING ASTHMA AND OUR SENIORS. ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION IN 2010 ALONE, THE CLEAN AIR ACT SAVED OVER 160,000 LIVINGS. SINCE 1990, THE CLEAN AIR ACT PREVENTED 384,000 ASTHMA ATTACKS AND 672,000 CASES OF CHRONIC BRON KITE IS AND IT IS CLEAR THAT THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS DOING ALL IT CAN TO STOP E.P.A. FROM CARRYING OUT ITS MISSION OF PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MANY WILL CLAIM THAT THE E.P.A. IS MOVING AT A FASTER PACE THAN ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY. HOWEVER, THE E.P.A. HAS PROPOSED FEWER CLEAN AIR ACT RULES UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA OVER THE PAST 24 MONTHS THAN THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF EITHER PRESIDENT BUSH OR PRESIDENT CLINTON. THAT IS WHY IN DECEMBER OF 2010, 280 GROUPS INCLUDING THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION, AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION AND OTHERS SENT A LETTER URGING THE CONGRESS TO REJECT ANY MEASURE THAT WOULD BLOCK OR DELAY THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FROM DOING ITS JOB TO PROTECT ALL AMERICANS FROM LIFE-THREATENING AIR POLLUTION. THIS BILL, AN APPROPRIATION BILL, IS NOT THE PLACE TO LEGISLATE THESE TYPE OF CHANGES. THESE SHOULD BE POLICY CHANGES NOT MADE DURING THIS PROCESS. THE CLEAN AIR ACT IS PROMOTING INNOVATION AND BREAKING AMERICANS' OIL DEPENDENCE, BUT REPUBLICANS WOULD GIVE BIG POLLUTERS A LOOPHOLE TO ROLL BACK OUR CLEAN ENERGY PROGRESS AND CONTINUE OUR ADDICTION TO FOREIGN OIL. THE CLEAN AIR ACT IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY. MANY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE CLEAN AIR ACT ECONOMIC BENEFITS FAR EXCEED ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAW BY 40 TO 1 RATIO. AS PRESIDENT OBAMA SO ELOQUENTLY SPOKE OF DURING HIS STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, WE MUST OUTINNOVATE, OUTEDUCATE AND OUTBUILD OUR GLOBAL COMPETITORS AND WIN BACK THE FUTURE. PROTECT THE AIR OUR CHILDREN BREATHE, ALLOW OIL COMPANIES, COMPANIES THAT ARE REAPING RECORD PROFITS, THE ABILITY TO SPREAD POLLUTION INTO THE AIR JUST TO PLEASE A LOBBYIST OR BIG OIL CORPORATION IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND YES, EXTREME. THE CLEAN AIR ACT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR DECADES WITH POSITIVE RESULTS FOR OUR ECONOMY, OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR BUSINESSES. ROLLING BACK THESE PROBINGS WILL HURT OUR MOST VULNERABLE. WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO GO BACKWARD. AND WITH THAT, I THANK YOU AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:51:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND RISE SNR

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  • 04:51:27 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I

  • 04:51:35 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    BILL BEFORE US REPRESENTS AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER AND LAND…

    BILL BEFORE US REPRESENTS AN ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION EFFORTS IN OUR COUNTRY. TO BE CLEAR, PASSAGE OF THIS MEASURE IS AN ABSOLUTE ABANDONMENT OF THIS BODY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE FOR THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS BILL SERIOUSLY UNDERMINES THE SIGNIFICANT ADVANCES THAT WE HAVE MADE AS A COUNTRY AS RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF OUR LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR WILDLIFE, OUR AIR AND OUR WATER. AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS LEGISLATION IS A THREAT TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF ALL AMERICANS. SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT THE RIDERS ATTACHED TO THIS BILL ARE SENSIBLE AND AN ATTEMPT TO REIN THE EXCESSES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND JOB-KILLING REGULATIONS. THIS IS AN ABSURD CLAIM. THIS LEGISLATION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMPLETE CAVEG IN TO SPECIAL INTERESTS AND BILL OIL AND SOME OF OUR NATION'S WORST POLLUTERS. FOR THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT IN THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OF RHODE ISLAND, THE STUNNING REDUCTIONS TO THE E.P.A. AND THE RELATED POLICY RIDERS THAT STRIKE AGAINST THE BEGINS WE'VE MADE TO CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER ARE A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT. LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. ACCORDING TO REPORTS FROM THE RHODE ISLAND CLEAN WATER ACTION, RHODE ISLAND HAS THE THRIRD HIGHEST RATE OF CHILDHOOD ASTHMA IN THE NORTHEAST AND FIFTH HIGHEST NATIONALLY. THE STATE SPENT $360 MILLION PROVIDING HEALTH CARE. WHAT'S MORE, 27,000 RHODE ISLAND CHILDREN CURRENTLY SUFFER FROM AS MASS. THE AVERAGE HOPIZATION STAY FOR CHILDREN WITH ASTHMA IS TWO DAYS WITH COST OF,-- $7,840. THE DRASTIC REDUCTIONS AND THE ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS IN THIS BILL THREATEN OUR AIR AND WATER QUALITY AND HAVE REAL AND NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES ON REAL PEOPLE AND REAL FAMILIES, INCREASING HEALTH CARE COSTS, ADDITIONAL LOST DAYS OF WORK AND PRODUCTIVITY AND DETRIMENTAL LONG-TERM HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONQUENSES FOR OUR CHILDREN. THIS SLASHES FUNDING THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH BUT PROTECTS STATE AND LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THIS BILL SETS THE FUND AT 55% BELOW THE F.Y. 2011. THE BILL SETS THE STATE DRINKING WATER FUND 50% BELOW 2011. I WOULD LIKE TO READ AN EXCERPT FROM THE 2010 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE ENTITY CHARGED WITH ADMINISTERING FEDERAL AND STATE PROGRAMS RELATING TO MUNICIPAL WASTE WATER AND DRINKING WATER. A REVOLVING FUND ALLOWS FOR THE PERPTRAL FUNDS TO ALLOW UNITS BY PROVIDING LOANS AND OTHER FORMS OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. OUR PRIMARY GOALS IS TO PROVIDE MEANS TO REDUCE POLLUTION, HELP PROVIDE SAFE DRINKING WATER AND LOW INTEREST LOANS TO CITIES AND TOWNS TO REPAIR SUBSTANDARD SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AT THIS MOMENT, WE ARE WORKING TO REIN OUR PUBLIC DEBT. WE NEED TO BE SMART. CONSIDER THE MISSION OF THIS STATE AGENCY'S WHOSE EFFORTS ARE SUPPORTED TO PROMOTE LOW-COST MEANS TO REDUCE POLLUTION CAUSED BY WASTE WATER AND PROVIDE SAFE DRINKING WATER. THESE ARE OBJECTIVES TO SAFE GURD THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF RHODE ISLANDERS AND MEN AND WOMEN ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WHAT IS THE RESPONSE FROM OUR FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE, CUT PROGRAMS BY MORE THAN $1 BILLION. WE COULD NO LONGER TRY TO FOOL OURSELVES WITH THE MISGUIDED BELIEF THAT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE SUPPORTED BY STATE REVOLVING FUNDS THAT PROTECT OUR HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT ARE GOING TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE OVER TIME. REDUCING FEDERAL FUNDS THAT SUPPORT THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS TO IMPROVE OUR WATER AND WASTE WATER SYSTEMS WILL INSITE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WILL MAKE FUTURE PROJECTS MORE EXPENSIVE AND WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES THAT THREATEN PUBLIC HEALTH, THE ENVIRONMENT AND IMPEDE ECONOMIC GROWTH. THESE WILL COST US MORE IN THE LONG RUN. SOME HAVE CALLED THIS BILL THE WORST ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER IN HISTORY. I SFRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS ASSAULT ON THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR STATES, OUR CITIES AND OUR TOWNS. LET US NOT BE KNOWN AS THE CONGRESS WHO BETRAYED OUR SOLEMN RESPONSIBILITY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE EARTH. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS BILL AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:56:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 04:56:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:56:47 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. HAVING SET SAIL IN SEARCH OF NEW SHORES FOR PIRAT…

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. HAVING SET SAIL IN SEARCH OF NEW SHORES FOR PIRAT INNING, THE G.O.P. IS LOST AT SEA UNDER MISGUIDED LEADERSHIP. UNDER THE GUISE OF AUSTERITY AND DEFICIT REDUCTION, THEY HAVE PLOTTED OUR NATION ON A FATEFUL COURSE THAT WILL ONLY RESURGE IN THE TORRENTS OF SEWAGE, UNTREATED CHEMICALS AND OTHER HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INTO OUR RIVERS, STREAMS AND CREEKS ALONG WITH FACTORIES, PLANTS AND REFINERIES BILCHING SMOKE, SMOG AND MERCURY INTO OUR BLUE SKIES. SICK CHILDREN AND THE AGED WHO SUFFER FROM ASTHMA, RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES, THEY'LL GET SICKER AND SICKER, WHILE OIL AND GAS COMPANIES AND MINING COMPANIES GET FATTER AND FATTER. MR. CHAIR, I -- AS I SEE IT, THIS BILL IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN ATTEMPT TO REMOVE 40 YEARS OF FEDERAL LAWS THAT PROTECT OUR AIR, WATER, LAND AND WILDLIFE. ONLY IN A REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED HOUSE WOULD WE INCREASE ACCESS TO OIL AND GAS LEASES WHILE REDUCING OUR ABILITY TO ENSURE DRILLING OPERATIONS ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE. ONLY IN A REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED HOUSE WOULD WE REDUCE THE ABILITY OF STATES TO SAFELY MANAGE THEIR SEWAGE AND WASTE WATER RUNOFF. AND MR. SPEAKER, ONLY IN A REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED CONGRESS WOULD WE ALLOW MORE URANIUM MINING NEAR THE GRAND CANYON. MR. SPEAKER, THESE EFFORTS ARE OPPOSED BY THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE IN OVERSIGHT OF DRILLING OPERATIONS, PROTECTION FROM TAINTED DRINKING WATER AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE THE GRAND CANYON WITH ALL OF ITS MAJESTIC BEAUTY, SHOULD BE A NATURAL NATIONAL TREASURE FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF FAMILIES AND TOURISTS, NOT A WASTELAND LAID BEAR BY MINING COMPANIES WHOSE APPETITE FOR PROFITS IS EQUALED BY THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THEY WOULD INFLICT UPON OUR ENVIRONMENT. THESE AREN'T THE RANTS AND RAVES OF LIBERALS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS HELL BENT ON PROTECTING NATURE AT ALL COSTS, BUT SENTIMENTS OF RED-BLOODED AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES LIKE THE GRAND CANYON IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT PROGRESS IF IT MEANS OUR SKIES GET DARK YEAR AND OUR WATERS MURK YEAR AND THEY DON'T WANT OUR WILDLIFE TO GO EXTINCT. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF THIS BILL IF THIS ILL-GOTTEN MEASURE PASSES. MR. SPEAKER, DAY AFTER DAY, WEEK AFTER WEEK AND MONTH AFTER MONTH, HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAND OUT LIFE PRESERVERS TO SPECIAL INTERESTS WHILE KICKING AMERICAN PEOPLE OVERBOARD LIKE THE BUNDLED TEA KICKED OVERBOARD BY THE REAL TEA PARTIERS AT THE START OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. SURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE ASTHMA BUT BIG BUSINESS GETS TO PUMP MORE POLLUTION INTO OUR AIR. SURE OUR WATER IS TAINTED, BUT SPECIAL INTERESTS GET TO DUMP RUNOFF IN OUR STREAMS. YES, OUR ENDANGERED SPECIES SLOWLY FADING AWAY, BUT NOW WE CAN DRILL IN THEIR HABITAT. WHAT HAPPENS, MR. SPEAKER WHEN OUR AIR BECOMES TOO DIRTY TO BREATHE, WHEN OUR WATER BECOMES TOO DIRTY TO DRINK AND WHEN OUR WILDLIFE ALL GO EXTINCT? I URGE A NO VOTE ON THIS BILL, BUT BEFORE I CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE THAT THE CAPTAIN ALWAYS GOES DOWN WITH THE SHIP. AND THAT'S THE REAL DEAL. .

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  • 05:01:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS RISE? THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 05:01:44 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    COLLEAGUES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, I WANTED TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING…

    COLLEAGUES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, I WANTED TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE LOSS OF OUR VALIANT CAPITOL POLICE, OFFICER JACOB J. CHESTNUT AND DETECTIVE JOHN GIBSON OF WHICH WERE HONORED TODAY AND JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL POLICE FOR THEIR SERVICE AND MY SYMPATHY, AGAIN, TO THE FAMILIES OF OFFICER CHESTNUT AND DETECTIVE JOHN GIBSON. I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF MY WORSHIPING WITH THE NORWEGIAN SEAMAN'S CHURCH YESTERDAY IN HOUSTON AND LET THE NORWEGIAN PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY KNOW THAT AMERICA STANDS WITH THEM DURING THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME. I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE TRAGEDIES BECAUSE IT IS A TIME WHEN WE HAVE HAD TO COME TOGETHER AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AS WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THERE SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER, SO I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES NOT SEEM TO CALL US TO DO THAT. I WANT TO REMIND AMERICA AND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE ARE 50 STATES, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE ACT ON BEHALF OF OUR STATES AND DISTRICTS, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT IS IMPORTANT TO EXIST AS A SINGLE NATION. ONE SINGLE STATE DID NOT DEFEND THE NATION AFTER THE ATTACKS ON PEARL HARBOR WE CAME TOGETHER. ONE STATE ON ITS OWN OR ONE REGION DID NOT END SEGREGATION AND ESTABLISH CIVIL RIGHTS. WE DID IT TOGETHER. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE STAKES ARE SO HIGH THAT WE SIMPLY MUST UNITE. SO I RAISE THE QUESTION OF WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS BILL THAT SEEMS TO ATTACK BOTH CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER BY REPEALING REQUIREMENTS THAT PREVENT PESTICIDE SPRAY FROM CHEMICAL COMPANIES FROM ENTERING RIVERS AND STREAMS. I COME FROM THE ENERGY SECTOR. I BELIEVE THAT THE ENERGY SECTOR CREATES JOBS. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, STRONG IN OUR DOMESTIC DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION, BUT ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT CLEAN AIR. WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED IN THIS AREA FOR SO LONG, YOU HEAR OPPOSITION FROM THE WILDERNESS SOCIETY THAT SAYS THIS IS AN EXTREME ASSAULT ON AMERICA'S BEDROCK ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. THE CLEAN WATER NETWORK THAT SAYS THESE SEVERE SPENDING AND BUDGETARY CUTS IN THIS BILL INCLUDES NOT ONLY CUT BUS A SERIES OF POLICY RIDERS REALLY HAVING NO PLACE IN THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS. AND THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION, PHYSICIANS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUDGET CUTS OR POLICY RIDERS WOULD IMPACT E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOB. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR MEMBERS REALIZE THAT IN 2011, WE CUT 16% FROM THE E.P.A. NOW WE WANT TO CUT 18%, OVER $1.5 BILLION. THAT CRIPPLES THE VERY AGENCY THAT PROTECT OURS WATER AND OUR AIR. PROTECTS OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ELDERLY. WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE THE CUSTODIANS OF THIS WONDERFUL NATION? WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY WE HAVE. THEN TO HEAR THAT ANOTHER 1/3 IS BEING CUT FROM THE NATIONAL LAND SAFE AND CONSERVATION SYSTEM THAT DOES MONUMENTS AND TRAILS AND WILD RIVERS. HOW MANY FAMILIES PACK UP IN TIMES THAT ARE HARD AND TAKE A ROAD TRIP TO TRAVEL THE BEAUTY OF THIS NATION, THE TALL MOUNTAIN THE DEEP VALLEYS AND THE WONDERFUL RIVERS? LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THIS LEGISLATION WILL DO, IT WILL BE A LITANY OF ADDITIONAL CUTS, IT WILL CUT FISH AND WILDLIFE AND THE BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS. IT ASSAULTS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN AMERICA. HOW MANY FRIENDS KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER 230,000 DEATHS EACH YEAR BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF REGULATING TOXINS IN THE AIR? OR LET ME CORRECT THAT AND SAY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT 230,000 DEATHS EACH YEAR BY REGULATING TOXINS IN THE AIR. WE'VE HEARD MY COLLEAGUES COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE AND TALK ABOUT THE RISING INCREASE IN MANY CITIES OF ASTHMA. LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. WE WANT TO CREATE JOBS. I'VE JOINED TOGETHER WHERE WE CAN DEREGULATE AND DE-ENTANGLE THE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD KEEP US FROM CREATING JOBS. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THE NATION'S ASSETS, WE JOIN TOGETHER AS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. I REMIND YOU THAT NONE OF THIS CREATES JOBS, I REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ENGAGED IN THESE CUTS. ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT IN REGULAR ORDER, WE'RE NOW DOING, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S DISAGREEMENT, WHAT OUR FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE SAID THEY CAN'T DO, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. I WILL TELL YOU THESE DRACONIAN CUTS ALONG WITH THESE DRACONIAN THE PATE ON THE DEBT CEILING IS GOING TOUNDS MINE AMERICA.

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  • 05:07:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY…

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MRS. CAPPS

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS…

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS RECKLESS BILL AND THE ABUNDANCE OF EXTRANEOUS AND IRRESPONSIBLE PROVISIONS IT CONTAINS. WE'RE DOWN TO THE WIRE ON DEFAULTING ON OUR DEBT. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON A WAY FORWARD, THE MAJORITY IS OFFERING UP THIS PIECE OF ILL-CONCEIVED LEGISLATION, A BILL THAT IS POLLUTED WITH UNRELATED AND INAPPROPRIATE RIDERS THAT DO NOT BELONG IN A SPENDING BILL. THE REALITY IS THAT THESE RIDERS WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON OUR NATIONAL DEFICIT. BUT THEY WILL HAVE A HUGE AND LASTING EFFECT ON OUR HEALTH, OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. SO WHY ARE THESE PROGRAMS BEING TARGETED? WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE WITH H.R. 1 EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE'RE SEEING IT AGAIN NOW. THE MAJORITY IS CHOOSING TO REWARD BIG OIL AND POLLUTERS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AIR WE BREATHE, THE WATER WE DRINK AND THE WILDLIFE AND WILD PLACES WE HOLD DEAR. MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY THAT THIS BILL DRASTICALLY UNDERMINED OUR GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. THIS BILL YEP ARDIESES THE CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION OF PLACES LIKE THE TAMIL ISLANDS NATIONAL PARK IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. CLOSING A QUARTER OF NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AFFECTING PLACES LIKE THE GUADELOUPE DUNES NEAR SANTA MARIA, SLASHING SUPPORT FOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT OUR OUTSTANDING NATURAL AREAS LIKE THE PIEDRAS BLANCAS LIGHT STATION. OPENING UP PROTECTED AND SENSITIVE AREAS IN CALIFORNIA'S NATIONAL FOREST TO OFFROAD VEHICLE USE, PUTTING PLACES LIKE LOS PADRES NATIONAL FOREST AT RISK AND BLOCKING THE PROTECTION OF WILDERNESS QUALITY LAND. AS THE BILL STANDS, IT WOULD BAR NEW LISTINGS OF THREATENED AND ENDANGERED SPECIES AS WELL AS CRITICAL HABITATS. IT WOULD GUT THE FUND THAT PRESERVES IRREPLACEABLE LAND AND WATERS. UNDER THIS DISASTER OF A BILL, THE LWCS WILL BE REDUCED TO ITS LOWEST LEVEL IN ITS 40-YEAR HISTORY AND WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS CUT? NOT THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER, BECAUSE THIS IS PAID FOR THROUGH OFFSHORE DRILLING REVENUES. INSTEAD, COMMUNITIES WILL LOSE JOBS. BUT THIS ASSAULT ISN'T LIMITED TO LANDS AND WILDLIFE THIS DIRTY LEGISLATION IS ALSO LITTERED WITH RIDERS THAT SEEK TO GUT THE PROTECTIONS OF THE CLEAN WATER AN CLEAN AIR ACT SUCH AS PREVENTING THE E.P.A. FROM STRENGTHENING LIMITATIONS ON POLLUTING STORM WATER RUNOFF, BLOCKING THE WATER USE BY POWER PLANTS, IMPIDING THE CLARIFICATION OF WHICH STREAMS AND WETLANDS ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE ACT. UNDER THE HOUSE SPENDING PLAN, THE REVOLVING FUNDS WILL ALSO SEE SIGNIFICANT TUTS. THESE ARE THE FUNDS ESTABLISHED FOR STATES TO COMPLETE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, PROJECTS WHICH CREATE JOBS AND PROVIDE CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER. THE RIDERS IN THIS BILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE ALSO AN ASSAULT ON THE VERY AIR WE BREATHE. THEY WOULD PREVENT THE E.P.A. FROM LIMITING CARBON POLLUTION FROM POWER PLANTS AND OTHER STATIONARY SOURCES, FROM UPDADING LIMITS ON SMOG AND MERCURY EMISSIONS. ONE RIDER WOULD BLOCK THE E.P.A. FROM SETTING NEW MILEAGE STANDARDS FOR CARS AND WON'T ALLOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO SET ITS OWN STANDARDS. SURELY WE CAN THINK OF BETTER SOLUTIONS TO SOLVE OUR FISCAL PROBLEMS RATHER THAN ATTACKS OUR AIR, WATER AN LANDS. SADLY, THIS BILL DEEPLY UNDERMINES OUR IMPORTANT ROLE OF PASSING ON AN AMERICA WHOSE LAND, WATER AND AIR ARE CLEAN, HEALTHY, PRODUCTIVE, BEAUTIFUL AND ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL TO ENJOY. I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:11:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WISCONSIN…

    GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WISCONSIN RISE?

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS AND LEADER OF THE SPORTSMAN'S CAUCUS, THE LARGEST…

    ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS AND LEADER OF THE SPORTSMAN'S CAUCUS, THE LARGEST BIPARTISAN CAUCUS IN THIS CONGRESS, I RELUCTANTLY RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL THIS BILL FALLS SHORT ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS, ESPECIALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC LAND, THE VITAL NATURAL RESOURCE THE WILDLIFE WE HAVE WITHIN OUR BORDERS. BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'VE HAD A TRADITION IN THIS PLACE FOR MANY YEARS OF HAVING STRONG, BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR REASONABLE, SENSIBLE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHY EARLIER THIS MONTH A COALITION OF OVER 640 OUTDOOR RECREATION ENTITIES SENT A LETTER TO EACH OF OUR OFFICES INCLUDING THE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP EXPRESSING THEIR DEEP CONCERN AND DISMAY OVER THE FUNDING CUTS PROPOSED IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL. THIS LETTER WAS SIGNED BY ENTITIES SUCH AS THE BOONE AND CROCKETT CLUB, DUCKS UNLIMITED, NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION, THABBLE WILD TURKEY FOUNDATION, TEDY ROOSEVELT CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIP, TROUT UNLIMITED AND IT WAS ALSO SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE WILDERNESS SOCIETY, BILL MEADOWS AND THE BOARD MEMBER OF THE CIVIL WAR TRUST, JOHN MAO. I'D LIKE TO READ THE LETTER AT THIS TIME. WE ARE A BROAD COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING MILLIONS OF MEMBERS WITH DIVERSE POLITICAL BACKGROUNDS AND AREAS OF INTEREST UNITED BEHIND A SHARED BELIEF THAT NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION,OUT DOOR RECREATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARE VITAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR GREAT NATION. LIKE YOU, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR NATION'S FISCAL HEALTH. THE NATION FACES UNSUSTAINABLE FUTURE FISCAL DEFICITS WHICH MUST BE ADDRESSED. AS PART OF THE OVERALL SOLUTION TO OUR DEFICIT CHALLENGES, WE KNOW THAT CONSERVATION, RECREATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAMS WILL NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE EXEMPTED FROM SCRUTINY. WE ARE WILLING TO ENGAGE IN A PROCESS TO FIND FURTHER SAVINGS IN SPENDING TO REVIEW THE ECONOMIC AND BUDGETARY SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS. THE FEDERAL BUDGET SHOULD NOT BE BALANCED DISPR PORTION GNATLY ON THE BACKS OF OUTDOOR RECREATION AND PRESERVATION BECAUSE OF FUTURE YEN RATIONS WHOSE WELL BEING DEPENDSEN OOUR CONSERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES. WE CARE ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION, OUTDOOR RECREATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE STAND READY TO WORK WITH YOU ON A SERIOUS EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE NATION'S SERIOUS ECONOMIC AND FISCAL CHALLENGES AS THEY RELATE TO CHOICES IN AND ABOVE WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. WE URGE THE CONGRESS TO ADDRESS THE FEDERAL DEFICIT WHILE ADDRESSING IN CRITICAL CONSERVATION AND HISTORIC RESERVATION PROGRAMS IN 2012. END QUOTE. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO HAVE THE RECORD -- HAVE THIS LETTER INSERTED IN THE RECORD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THAT WILL BE COVERED BY YEN LEAVE.

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    MR. KIND

    GROUPS AND MANY OF US REALIZE THIS IS MORE THAN JUST BEING GOOD STEWARDS…

    GROUPS AND MANY OF US REALIZE THIS IS MORE THAN JUST BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LAND AND DOING RIGHT BY FUTURE GENERATIONS. INVESTMENT IN THESE PROGRAMS ARE CRUCIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION IN THIS COUNTRY. THE OUTDOOR INDUSTRY FOUNDATION ISSUED A SURVEY FROM YEAR TO YEAR SHOWING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF MANY OF THESE CONSERVATION PROGRAMS ON OUTDOOR RECREATION ACTIVITIES. THEY FOUND THAT OUTDOOR RECREATION CONTRIBUTES $700 BILLION ANNUALLY TO THE U.S. ECONOMY, SUPPORTS 6 PPT 5 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS, ONE OF EVERY 20 JOB, AND STIMULATES 8% OF CONSUMER SPENDING. IN WISCONSIN ALONE, MY HOME STATE, HUNTING AND FISHING ALOAN SUPPORTS 57,000 JOBS $400 MILLION IN STATE REVENUE, SPORTSMEN SPEND $3.1 BILLION ANNUALLY WHICH HELPS STIMULATE THE WISCONSIN ECONOMY AND OTHER STATES. . MR. CHAIRMAN, THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN GIVING AT THE IDLE OF DEFICIT REDUCTION FOR SOMETIME. IN FACT, OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, AMERICANS INVESTMENT IN PARKS, WILDLIFE, CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER HAS FALLEN FROM 7.1% OF OVERALL BUDGET TO 6%. SO THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN A CONTINUAL REDUCTION FOR THESE PROGRAMS. FOR EVERY PUBLIC DOLLAR USED IT'S LEVERAGE TO DRAW IN MORE PRIVATE SECTOR DOLLARS. THIS, TOO BE, WILL BE IN GREAT JEOPARDY WITH THE DISMANTLING OF THESE PROGRAMS. THESE AREN'T PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN TURN OFF AT THE SPIGOT. YOU NEED A CONTINUITY OF IT GOING. WITH FUNDING OF THIS MAGNITUDE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO REMAIN THAT CONTINUITY OF CARE. WHETHER IT'S TO CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR, WILDLIFE, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE UNDER DIRECT RESULT OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. THE IRONY WITH ANOTHER PROGRAM IT'S FUNDED BY OIL ROYALTIES. IT'S A GRAND BARGAIN THAT'S BEEN USED IN THE PAST TO ALLOW OIL ON PUBLIC LANDS. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL. WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:17:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. ANDREWS

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S AN UNFORTUNATE…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S AN UNFORTUNATE TIME-HONORED TRADITION IN THE HOUSE OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE FLOOR AND OBJECTING TO REDUCTIONS IN SPENDING WITH HEART FELT ARGUMENTS AS TO WHY THE SPENDING IS NECESSARY AND NEVER OFFERING ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY MIGHT BE MADE UP INSTEAD. AND THAT FRANKLY IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE THE HUGE DEFICITS AND DEBTS THAT WE DO, SO I WANT TO BREAK WITH THAT TRADITION AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT A SPENDING REDUCTION I HAVE A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT MAKE IT UP INSTEAD. THERE IS NOT A PERSON IN THIS HOUSE WHO'S NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN SOME WAY BY CANCER IN THEIR FAMILY AND SOMEONE THEY LOVE, SOME FRIEND. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT HASN'T HAD THE HEARTBREAK OF DEALING WITH MALIG NANCY IN THEIR FAMILY -- MALIGNANCY IN THEIR FAMILY. I DON'T THINK THERE IS NOT A MEMBER THAT COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT SOLVING THIS PROBLEM. THERE IS NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT WHO IS INDIFFERENT OF THE PROBLEM OF FIGHTING CANCER. NOW, CANCER COMES FROM A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S GENETIC, IT'S HE HAD RED TEAR, IT COMES FROM FOODS. A LOT OF IT COMES FROM THE ENVIRONMENT, IT COMES FROM WATER. IF THE WATER WE COOK WITH, BATHE IN, IT COULD BE THE TRIGGER OF THE DREADED DISEASE OF CANCER. SO A LONG TIME AGO WHEN THIS WAS DISCOVERED IN THE 1960'S THERE WAS A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO CLEAN THE WATER OF THIS COUNTRY AND KEEP IT CLEAN. AND IT WAS UPHELD BY PRESIDENTS LIKE RONALD REAGAN AND GEORGE BUSH, BILL CLINTON, JIMMY CARTER, BARACK OBAMA, MANY OTHERS, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS. THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY AND JUST BE ASTONISHED BY THE FACT THAT THE CLEAN WATER FUND IS CUT BY 55%. LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN. THE FUND THAT HAS BEEN SET UP TO PROTECT THE CLEAN WATER OF OUR COUNTRY, THAT IS CONSUMED BY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES, CUT BY 55%. THE AMOUNT OF THAT CUT IS ABOUT $833 MILLION BELOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR. ABOUT $833 MILLION. NOW, USUALLY PEOPLE STOP THERE, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD GET THE MONEY INSTEAD. $833 MILLION IS LESS THAN THREE DAYS WORTH RF SPENDING IN IRAQ AND -- OF SPENDING IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. HOW ABOUT THAT? WE WILL SPEND MORE THAN $833 MILLION IN THE NEXT THREE DAYS IN KABUL AND BAGHDAD. IN PART TO HELP BUILD CLEAN WATER SYSTEMS THERE. IN PART TO HELP CREATE JOBS THERE. I JUST THINK THAT'S INEXCUSABLE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE SPENDING IN TWO OR THREE DAYS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WHEN WE COULD SPEND TO ELIMINATE THIS CUT AND PROVIDE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY. THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDIES WE'RE GOING TO GIVE OIL COMPANIES. THE OIL COMPANIES MADE RECORD PROFITS IN 2010. THEY MADE ABOUT $60 BILLION IN PROFITS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. $77 BILLION, ACTUALLY, IN PROFITS LAST YEAR. WE'LL SPEND SIX TIMES AS MUCH OF THIS CUT IN THE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FUND TO GIVE MONEY AWAY TO THOSE OIL COMPANIES THIS YEAR. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO MADE $77 BILLION IN PROFITS LAST YEAR, WHOSE STOCKS ARE OFF THE CHARTS, WHO ARE PAYING THEIR C.E.O.'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COMPENSATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM ABOUT $7 BILLION FROM THE WALLETS OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY THIS YEAR. THAT'S SIX TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THIS CUT IN THE CLEAN DRINKING WATER FUND. THE CLEAN WATER FUND, EXCUSE ME. SO I UNDERSTAND IF YOU COME TO THE FLOOR YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SAYING, IF YOU DON'T CUT THIS YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SAYING WHERE ELSE WE SHOULD GET IT FROM. SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE HOUSE, MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE THIS -- LET'S NOT REDUCE THE CLEAN WATER FUND BY 55%. LET'S NOT SAY TO CITIES AND VILLAGES AND TOWNS AND STATES AND INDIAN TRIBES AROUND OUR COUNTRY THAT THE MONEY THAT WE LEND TO THEM -- WE DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A LOAN TO HELP BRING CLEAN WATER TO OUR KITCHENS AND OUR HOMES AND OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP AND WORK, HOSPITALS, LET'S NOT REDUCE THAT. INSTEAD, LET'S TAKE 2 1/2 DAYS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND PUT IT THERE. LET'S TAKE 1/6 OF THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO HAND TO THE OIL COMPANIES AND PUT IT THERE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T DO. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:22:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 05:22:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:22:44 PM

    MS. LEE

    YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE…

    YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS AND RISE IN OPPOSITION OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. AS A MEMBER OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE I WANT TO THANK RANKING MEMBER MORAN AND OUR FULL COMMITTEE RANKING MEMBER, CONGRESSMAN DICKS, FOR LEADING THE FIGHT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AGAINST THIS REPUBLICAN ASSAULT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SADLY, MR. CHAIR, THIS BILL IS NOTHING MORE THAN A VEHICLE FOR BIGGER PROFITS FOR BIG OIL AND OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS POLLUTERS. THIS BILL IN ALL IT CONTAINS DESTROYS CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS ESTABLISHED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. BY ATTACKING MORE THAN 40 EXTREMELY DANGEROUS POLICY RIDERS, THE REPUBLICANS TAKE DIRECT AIM ON THE WATER WE DRINK, THE AIR WE BREATHE AND THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE LIVE. THIS TERRIBLE LEGISLATION GUTS THE BUDGETS OF KEY FEDERAL AGENCIES CHARGED WITH PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS AND OUR NATURAL NATIONAL RESOURCES. IT TERMINATES AIR QUALITY STANDARDS AS WELL AS AIR AND WATER CONSERVATION MONEY THAT WILL IMPACT ALL COMMUNITIES IN OUR COUNTRY. BUT THESE CUTS WILL HIT MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA ESPECIALLY HARD. MR. CHAIR, I'M PROUD TO SERVE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF CALIFORNIA'S NINTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHICH HAS LONG BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT INCLUDING WORKING ON CRITICAL ISSUES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS FIGHTING FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY, GREEN JOBS AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. THIS BILL UNDERMINES THE CLEAN AIR ACT'S ABILITY TO CRACK DOWN ON AIR POLLUTION, THREATENING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CHILDREN, OUR FAMILIES, OUR COMMUNITIES INCLUDING MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE EAST BAY, MANY OF WHOM SUFFER UNFAIRLY FROM POOR AIR QUALITY. NOW, LET ME JUST TELL YOU THIS STORY, THIS PERSONAL STORY. MANY OF MY CHILDHOOD FRIENDS, MIND YOU, WHO GREW UP IN -- WITH ME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A POLLUTED NEIGHBORHOOD IN EL PASO, TEXAS, MANY OF THEM WERE DEAD, MIND YOU, BEFORE THEY TURNED 55 YEARS OF AGE OR MANY OF THEM WHO ARE STILL ALIVE HAVE CHRONIC OR DEBILITATING DISEASES. AND THESE TRAGEDIES CAN BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH I LIVED IN AND GREW UP IN IN EL PASO, TEXAS. ALSO, LET ME SAY, THIS BILL IS UNJUST BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES REFUSE TO FUND E.P.A. AT A LEVEL WHERE THERE CAN BE SOME JUSTICE IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PROGRAMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADMINISTRATION WHERE IT CAN IMPLEMENT ITS CORE MISSION OF PROTECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS MEANS THAT MORE WOMEN AND MORE CHILDREN AND MORE PEOPLE FACING OR LIVING IN IMPOVERTY OR NEIGHBORHOODS OF COLOR ARE BEARING THE BRUNT OF POLLUTION, ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION AND CLIMATE CHANGE. SADLY, THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE REPUBLICAN PLAN TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF THE POOR. RATHER THAN CREATING JOBS, THIS BILL GUTS FUNDING TO CREATE JOBS, ESPECIALLY GREEN JOBS. RATHER THAN THE REPUBLICANS TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT OUR NATION'S CLEAN WATER SUPPLY AND OPEN SPACES, THIS BILL TAKES US BACK TO DIRTY WATER AND CLOSED PARKS. RATHER THAN TAKING ACTION TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY CAN TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT, AND THEY WANT TO TRUST US, TO PROTECT THE WATER THAT THEY DRINK AND THE AIR THAT THEY BREATHE, THIS BILL ROLLS BACK THE STANDARDS AND PROTECTIONS AIMED AT PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH. MR. CHAIRMAN, AS A PERSON OF FAITH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A MORAL AND ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES PROVIDED BY OUR CREATOR. THIS MEASURE BEFORE US PROHIBITS US FROM ACTING ON THAT VERY, VERY SERIOUS AND IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY. HOW CAN WE HERE MAKE DECISIONS THAT KNOWINGLY HARM PEOPLE? HOW CAN WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT POLLUTE OUR ENVIRONMENT? HOW CAN WE MAKE THESE CRASS DECISIONS AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THAT WILL INCREASE HEALTH HAZARDS LEADING TO DISEASES SUCH AS CANCER? PEOPLE ELECT US BECAUSE THEY TRUST US TO MAKE DECISIONS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. THEY WANT US TO PRESERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL PLANET. FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE COUNTING ON US. THIS BILL REALLY DOES LET THEM DOWN. WE NEED TO DEFEAT THIS HORRIBLY DESTRUCTIVE BILL AND MOVE QUICKLY TO MATTERS THAT AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT US TO ADDRESS LIKE TO CREATE JOBS, TO RAISE OUR DEBT CEILING AND TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH. THANK YOU AND I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:27:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

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  • 05:27:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    CHAIR. WHILE OUR NATION STUMBLES TO A DEFAULT, WE ARE WASTING TIME TO…

    CHAIR. WHILE OUR NATION STUMBLES TO A DEFAULT, WE ARE WASTING TIME TO CONSIDER A BILL THAT WILL NOT MOVE THROUGH THE CITY AND WHICH THE PRESIDENT HAS ALREADY THREATENED TO VETO.

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  • 05:28:20 PM

    MS. SCHWARTZ

    IT ARTICULATES THE REPUBLICANS IN THIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THIS IS A…

    IT ARTICULATES THE REPUBLICANS IN THIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THIS IS A BILL THAT REALLY MAKES ONE SHAKE ONE'S HEAD. IT IS AN ASTONISHING EFFORT TO DESTROY HARD, LONGSTANDING AND SUCCESSFUL POPULAR LAWS.

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  • 05:28:43 PM

    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    BALANCES MINIMAL COST SAVINGS ON THE BACK OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS NATURAL…

    BALANCES MINIMAL COST SAVINGS ON THE BACK OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES. H.R. 2584, THE FUNDING BILL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES, COMPLETELY GUTS FUNDING FOR PUBLIC LANDS AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT AND DESPERATELY NEED. A 64% CUT TO THE STATE AND TRIBAL WILDLIFE GRANTS PROGRAM AND A 95% CUT TO THE COOPERATIVE ENDANGERED SPECIES CONSERVATION FUNDS MEAN WE CAN EXPECT A RAPID INCREASE IN ENDANGERED AND EXTINCT SPECIES ON FEDERAL AND NONFEDERAL LANDS ALIKE. AN 80% REDUCTION TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND MEANS WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT ADEQUATE MAINTENANCE OF LANDMARKS INCLUDING HARPERS FERRY, WEST VIRGINIA, YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, OR CALIFORNIA'S BIG SUR COAST. A 40% COAST TO THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE CONSERVATION SYSTEM MEANS 27 MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL MONUMENTS, WILDERNESS

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  • 05:29:53 PM

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    TREASURES WILL BE INADEQUATELY PROTECTED. A 60% CUT TO THE NORTHERN…

    TREASURES WILL BE INADEQUATELY PROTECTED. A 60% CUT TO THE NORTHERN AMERICAN WETTELAND CONSERVATION ACT MEANS OUR BIRDS AND FISH AND WILDLIFE RESOURCES WILL LOSE PROTECTIONS THAT KEEP THESE POPULATIONS VIABLE. A 55% REDUCTION TO THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND MEANS LESS PROTECTION FOR QUALITY -- FOR WATER QUALITY AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE UNITED STATES. . AND A PROHIBITION OF FUNDING FOR THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE MEAN MISHOME STATE OF ILLINOIS AND THE GREAT LAKE MICHIGAN WILL LOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO PROMOTE FOOD JOBS AND CLEAN DRINKING WATER FOR MILLIONS OF OUR CITIZENS. AND WHILE THIS BILL SEVERELY CUTS THESE AND OTHER PRIORITIES, IT PROVIDES HANDOUTS TO CORPORATE POLLUTERS IN THE FORM OF POLICY RIDERS. THESE WOULD THREATEN PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS WHICH HAVE PROTECTED OUR COUNTRY FOR DECADES. ONE RIDER REVERSES A MORATORIUM ON URANIUM MINING ON THE RIM OF THE GRAND CANYON. IT WOULD TURN ONE OF OUR NATION'S MOST ICONIC LANDMARKS INTO AN EYESORE. ANOTHER EXTENDS LOOPHOLES FROM THE CLEAN WATER ACT JEOPARDIZING DRINKING WATER FOR 117 MILLION AMERICANS. MANY OTHERS WEAKEN THE CLEAN AIR ACT WHICH SAVED AN ESTIMATED 160,000 LIVES JUST LAST YEAR. THE CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER ACT PROTECTED AMERICAN HEALTH AND WELFARE FOR 40 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN THE CAT RHYS FOR GREEN ENERGY INVESTMENT AND JOB CREATION. MORE THAN 80% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BELIEVE THE E.P.A. SHOULD NOT BE PREVENTED FROM PERFORMING ITS DUTIES. A GALLUP POLL REPORTS THAT FOUR OUT OF FIVE AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER THEY DRINK, AS WELL THEY SHOULD. ALTHOUGH THIS LEGISLATION IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL AT THE WHITE HOUSE, IT POSES A FUNDAMENTAL DEBATE ABOUT THE TYPE OF COUNTRY WE WANT TO HAND OVER TO OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. DO WE WANT TO BE A NATION THAT OVERSEES THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ANIMAL POPULATIONS AND WELTLANDS AND NATIONAL PARKS BECAUSE WE AREN'T WILLING TO ASK FOR ONE PENNY MORE FROM MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES? DO WE WANT TO BE A NATION THAT TURNS AWAY FROM WATER TREATMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE HOPES THAT NO ONE WILL NOTICE? DO WE WANT TO BE A NATION THAT VALUES THE PROFITS OF CORPORATE POLLUTERS OVER THE HEALTH OF CHILDREN? THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HAS CLEARLY STATED ITS POSITION. I OPPOSE THIS BILL. THE FUNDING CUTS AND DESTRUCTIVE POLICY RIDERS THAT RID UNTIL BILL TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON VITAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH POLICIES. WE OWE IT TO OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO UPHOLD OUR COMMITMENT TO CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, AND PRESERVED NATURAL RESOURCES. THIS WEEKEND, MY GRANDCHILDREN, MY GRANDDAUGHTER, WHO CELEBRATED HER 10TH BIRTHDAY, HAD HER PARTY ON LAKE MICHIGAN AND ENJOYED THE PRECIOUS CLEAN WATER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ATTACK ON OUR AMERICAN RESOURCES AND OUR VALUES.

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  • 05:33:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 05:33:22 PM

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    THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME, I STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 05:33:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:33:31 PM

    MR. LEWIS

    FROM AFAR TO THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FLOOR WHICH IS SO, SO FASCINATING. THE…

    FROM AFAR TO THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FLOOR WHICH IS SO, SO FASCINATING. THE FORMER MAJORITY WANTING SO DESPERATELY TO BECOME THE MAJORITY AGAIN IS SUGGESTING THAT BY WAY OF THIS BILL WE'RE TAKING THE HEART OUT OF AMERICA'S INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM. THE FACT IS, IN RECENT YEARS, THE FORMER MAJORITY INCREASED SPENDING IN ALL THESE CATEGORIES AT LEVELS THAT WOULD ALMOST STARTLE THE PEOPLE IF THEY COULD EVER SEE THE DETAILED FACTS. THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING SPENDING TO THEIR WISH LIST AHEAD SOME WAY BECOMES A CUT IN THEIR MIND'S EYE. WHEN WE'RE FACED WITH REALITY THAT THE COVERED WAGON THAT TOOK US TO CALIFORNIA FROM THE EAST IS ABOUT TO GO OVER THE CLIFF OF BANKRUPTCY IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT SPENDING. THIS SAME VOICE OR SERIES OF VOICES CURRENTLY IS DOING BATTLE OVER THE DEBT LIMITATION AND THEY'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE HOLDING THIS UP BECAUSE OF SOME LOOPHOLES IN TAXES OTHERWISE FOR THE SO-CALLED RICH. CONVERSATIONS TAKING PLACE BY MANY OF THE RICH OF THE HOUSE INDEIDRE FLECTS THE REALITY THAT WHAT THEY REALLY WANT IS MORE SPENDING, MORE FUNDING FOR THESE PROGRAMS, WHILE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO CUT BACK SPENDING AND CUT THE IMPACT OF GOVERNMENT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THESE SAME VOICES WILL NOT GIVE UP UNTIL THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE TAXES. SO ONE OF THE TWO PARTIES HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WANT MORE SPENDING IN GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, WANT MORE TAXES, THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION WOULD SUGGEST WE OUGHT TO CUT BACK SPENDING, MAKE SENSE OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR KEEPING SOME MONEY IN THEIR JEANS, INVESTING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, IS THE WAY TO CREATE JOBS. WHILE IT'S FASCINATING TO WATCH THIS DISCUSSION, I'M GLAD TO COME BACK THREE OR FOUR MORE TIMES AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY REALLY KNOW ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OR REALLY KNOW ABOUT THE INTERIOR BILL RATHER THAN THE RHETORIC THAT'S PART OF NEXT YEAR'S CAMPAIGN.

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  • 05:35:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 05:35:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECK THESED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:35:59 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    WHAT A FORTUITOUS MOMENT TO FLOLE MY COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA. I DO KNOW…

    WHAT A FORTUITOUS MOMENT TO FLOLE MY COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA. I DO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE INTERIOR BUDGET. I KNOW WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR MEANS TO AMERICA. EARLY THIS MORNING, I LEFT SACRAMENTO. MY MIND WAS VERY MUCH ON THE DEBATE YOU JUST SUGGESTED, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE DEFICIT. IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG AS I SAT BY THE WINDOW, AS I MOVED OVER THE SIERRA NEVADA MOUNTAINS, TO NEVADA AND ACROSS THE ROCKIES AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE NATION. FOR MOST OF THE WAY IT WAS RATHER CLEAR. WE HAVE AN AWESOME, UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY AND WE'RE THE STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLD AND WE HAVE GREAT ECONOMIC STRENGTH. THIS BILL, HOWEVER, WOULD TAKE THIS GREAT NATION, THE GREAT BEAUTY, THE INCREDIBLE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND PUT THEM AT RISK. AND PUT THIS NATION'S EX-TRORDNARY BEAUTY AND RESOURCES AT RISK. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE THE BUDGET DEFICIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THIS IS A MIN US KUHL PART OF THE OVERALL FEDERAL BUDGET. IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT THIS NATION'S PHYSICAL AND HUMAN HEALTH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. THIS BILL AS WRITTEN WOULD BRING TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA POISON. IT IS THE POISONING OF OUR RIVERS AND OUR AIR. USE WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT ABOUT CLEANING UP, USE THE NICE WORDS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POISONING THE RIVERS AND AIR OF AMERICA. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. WHEN YOU TAKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND YOU TAKE AWAY ITS ABILITY TO PROTECT US, THEN YOU ARE ALLOWING POISONS TO BE IN OUR WATER AND IN OUR AIR AND IN OUR LAND. YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WILL NOT YIELD, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TIME LATER. YOU LOOK AT THIS BILL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXTRAORDINARY PHYSICAL NATURE OF AMERICA. DO YOU WANT THE GREAT MOUNTAINS OF THE APPALACHIAS TO BE FLATTENED SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE COAL TO BURN IT AND FOUL THE ATMOSPHERE? THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY OF THIS NATION TO PROTECT YOUR PRECIOUS MO JAVY DESERT? THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL -- MOJAVE DESERT? THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY BY GRABBING THE RESOURCES OF THIS NATION WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO PAY A DECENT ROYALTY, THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. WHETHER IT'S THE OIL IN THE GULF OR THE COPPER IN A NEW MINE IN ARIZONA. I'VE LISTENED TO THE REPUBLICAN BILLS DAY AFTER DAY ON THIS FLOOR AND IN COMMITTEE AND THEY WOULD STRIP AWAY, THEY WOULD STRIP AWAY THE PROTECTIONS THAT AMERICANS WANT FOR THEIR HEALTH AND FOR THEIR LAND. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS? MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW JERSEY SAID IT VERY WELL. IT'S IN AFGHANISTAN AND IT'S IN BAGHDAD. WE'RE BUILDING THE BRIDGES, WE'RE BUILDING -- CLEANING THE RIVERS, PROVIDING THE WATER AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS THERE TO THE TUNE OF $150 BILLION A YEAR. BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. BRING OUR MONEY BACK TO AMERICA. BUILD AMERICA. WE RE-BUILD AMERICA. THERE'S THE ANSWER. NOT IN THIS WAY. -- NOT IN THIS WAY WILL YOU EVER SOLVE THE DEFICIT. AND BY THE WAY THIS BILL LAYS OFF PEOPLE. 15,000 PEOPLE AT THE E.P.A. ALONE. THIS BILL WILL NOT BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS BILL WILL TAKE AWAY THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR SANITATION SYSTEMS, FOR OUR WATER SYSTEMS. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. MY COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA KNOWS FULL GOOD AND WELL WHAT'S INTENDED HERE. IT'S TO GIVE OUR RESOURCES TO THE POLLUTERS. IT'S TO FOUL OUR AIR. IT'S TO REMOVE THE ABILITY OF THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, NOT SOME GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON, BUT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA HAVE FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS DEMANDED CLEAN WATER THAT THEIR RESOURCES BE PROTECTED, THAT THE COMMONS BE PROTECTED. S THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA THAT WANT A FUTURE THAT'S GOOD FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THAT WANT A FUTURE THAT'S VIABLE. THAT WANT A FUTURE THAT DOES NOT HAVE POISONED WATER AND AIR. THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WANT. THIS BILL GOES EXACTLY THE WRONG DIRECTION. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 05:40:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA IS…

    YIELDS BACK. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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  • 05:41:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    IN OPPOSITION TO FISCAL 2012 INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATIONS BILL.…

    IN OPPOSITION TO FISCAL 2012 INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENT APPROPRIATIONS BILL. I DO WANT TO START ON A POSITIVE NOTE, THE BILL WOULD RESTORE THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSED CUTS TO MITIGATION FISH HATCHERIES, THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT WOULD INCREASE FUNDING FOR THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE AND IT WOULD LARGELY MAINTAIN FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICES AND THE SMITHSONIAN. I COMMEND THEM FOR THOSE DIGS.

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  • 05:41:40 PM

    MR. PRICE

    THE LIST OF POSITIVE THINGS IS PRETTY SHORT. I WANT TO IN THE TIME I HAVE…

    THE LIST OF POSITIVE THINGS IS PRETTY SHORT. I WANT TO IN THE TIME I HAVE LIST SOME OF THE DEVASTATING CUTS THIS BILL INCLUDES. WHILE OUR FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA HAS SUGGESTED THESE REAL REALLY AREN'T DEEP CUTS, I BELIEVE THE CONTENT OF THIS BILL BELIES THAT NOTION. THE BILL BEFORE US PICKS UP WHERE H.R. 1 LEFT OFF LAST SPRING, MAKING NUMEROUS AND DEEP CUTS TO THE PROGRAMS THAT PROTECT OUR AIR, WATER, PUBLIC LANDS AND WILDLIFE. HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS CUTS IN THIS BILL. FIRST THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. THIS FUNDS THE ACCUSATION OF PUBLIC LANDS SO THEY'RE PROTECTED FROM DEVELOPMENT CAN BE ENJOYED BY FUTURE YEN RATIONS. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND HAS A DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM FROM OFFSHORE DRILLING ROYALTIES. IT TAKES NOTHING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. YET THIS BILL WOULD CUT LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. BIG 80%, THE LOWEST LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM IN 45 YEARS. IT THREATENS COMPLETION OF THE ACCUSATION OF THE ROCKY FORD TRACK IN EAST TENNESSEE AND SEVERAL TREASURES IN NORTH CAROLINA THAT NEED PROTECTION. EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BODY SHOULD ASK, HOW MANY ACCUSATION PROJECTS WOULD THIS HALT IN MY STATE? THERE IS NO REASSURING ANSWER. SECONDLY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. THE BILL CONTINUES THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY'S ASSAULT ON THE E.P.A. AFTER IMPOSING A 16% CUT IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE MAJORITY IS NOW PROPOSING A FURTHER 18% REDUCTION IN THE AGENCY'S BUDGET. THAT WOULD PUSH AGENCY STAFFING TO 1991 LEVELS. THE GOAL OF THE CUT SO MASSIVE IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE TO ENSURE THAT E.P.A. DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO FULFILL ITS CORE MISSION, INCLUDING LIFE-SAVING AND LIFE ENHANCING RESEARCH BASED IN MY DISTRICT AT RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK. THIRD, THE CLEAN WATER AND DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND, THE S.R.F.'S, PROVIDE FUNDING TO STATES TO FUND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO ALLOW COMMUNITIES TO BETTER MANAGE WASTEWATER AND PROTECT CLEAN AND SAFE DRINKING WATER. THIS PROVIDES ONE OF THE MOST BASIC SERVICES TAXPAYERS EXPECT. CLEAN WATER. AND YET THIS BILL WOULD CUT FUNDING FOR THESE TWO PROGRAMS BY NEARLY $1 BILLION COMBINED. GIVEN HOW ESSENTIAL WATER SUPPLY IS TO ECONOMIC GROWTH, THIS IS IRONIC AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME AS OUR COMMUNITIES STRUGGLE TO RETAIN AND REGAIN JOBS. I SUGGEST TO COLLEAGUES, ASK YOUR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP THIS DIFFERENCE. MR. CHAIRMAN, AS IF THESE CUTS WEREN'T BAD ENOUGH, THE MAJORITY HAS LOADED THIS BILL WITH LEGISLATIVE POLICY RIDERS AND FUNDING LIMITATIONS THAT WILL ROLL BACK 40 YEARS OF PROGRESS TOWARD CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER. THESE ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL RIDERS HAVE NO PLACE IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL. THEY WILL NOT SAVE THE COUNTRY A PENNY AND WILL COST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES, EXPOSE OUR CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES TO UNNECESSARY ILLNESSES, AND THEY WILL DEGRADE OUR IRREPLACEABLE NATURAL RESOURCES. THE MAJORITY CLAIMS THAT THESE CUTS ARE NEEDED TO DEMONSTRATE FISCAL DISCIPLINE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BOOK IS A TEXTBOOK CASE IN FALSE ECONOMIES. IN GUTTING CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PROGRAMS, IT PILES UP FRIGHTFUL ECONOMIC AND HUMAN COSTS FOR THE FUTURE. OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR ENVIRONMENT TODAY AND IN FUTURE GENERATIONS DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT THIS BILL IS OFFERING. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS SHORTSIGHTED APPROPRIATIONS BILL. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:45:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE? .

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  • 05:45:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST RADICAL ENVIRONMENTAL BILL THAT…

    CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST RADICAL ENVIRONMENTAL BILL THAT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES EVER CONSIDERED.

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  • 05:45:55 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    CUTS FUNDING TO THE LOWEST LEVEL IN HALF A CENTURY. IT OPENS THE GRAND…

    CUTS FUNDING TO THE LOWEST LEVEL IN HALF A CENTURY. IT OPENS THE GRAND CANYON TO URANIUM MINING. IT DENIES THE EXISTENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND ELIMINATES FUNDING FOR FEDERAL AGENCIES TO MONITOR AND ADAPT TO IT. IT CONTAINS MORE THAN THREE DOZEN ANTI-ENVIRONMENT POLICY RIDERS THAT EVISCERATE THE CLEAN AIR ACT, THE CLEAN WATER ACT, THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL STATUTES. THE BILL DESECRATES THE LEGACY OF TEDDY ROOSEVELT AND A LONG LINE OF BIPARTISAN CONSERVATION LEADERS WHILE IT ALSO ENDANGERS PUBLIC HEALTH. A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY CLAIMS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT SPENDING, BUT THIS RECKLESS BILL WOULD IMPOSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MR. CHAIRMAN, OF HEALTH CARE COSTS ON AMERICANS BY INCREASING THE INCIDENTS OF ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA, HEART ATTACKS AND EVEN PREMATURE DEATHS. THIS ENVIRONMENTAL BILL WILL INCREASE HEALTH CARE COSTS BY UP TO $539 BILLION, ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE. SINCE MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND CHIP ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 33.9% OF TOTAL HEALTH CARE COSTS, THIS REPUBLICAN BILL WILL COST TAXPAYERS SOME $179 BILLION MORE. IN ADDITION, IT WILL CAUSE MORE THAN 60,000 PREMATURE DEATHS. 20 MILLION LOST DAYS OF WORK. AND 36,800 ADDITIONAL HEART ATTACKS IN AMERICA. THIS BILL ELIMINATES FUNDING FOR CRITICAL LAND CONSERVATION PRIORITIES, COMPLETELY DEFUNDING THE FOREST LEGACY PROGRAM. IT DEFUNDS THE CHESAPEAKE BAY RESTORATION PROGRAM. IT BLOCKS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IMPLEMENTATION OF PUBLIC HEALTH STANDARDS FOR PARTICULAT, LEAD AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. IT REPEALS CLEAN WATER ACT STANDARDS TO PROTECT STREAMS FROM MOUNTAIN TOP REMOVAL. IT IMPERILS THE COLLEGELINESS OF DRINKING WATER BY UNREGULATED DISPOSAL OF COAL. THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY SEEMS TO BE LIVING IN AN ALTERNATIVE REALITY. AS AMERICANS FACE UNPRECEDENTED DROUGHT IN THE SOUTHWEST, RECORD FLOODS IN THE MISSISSIPPI BASIN, RECORD HEAT HERE IN EASTERN AND MIDWESTERN CITIES, ACCELERATING SEA LEVEL RISES AND OTHER SYMPTOMS OF GLOBAL WARMING, THIS BILL BLOCKS FUNDING EVEN TO MONITOR GLOBAL WARMING. NOT ONLY DO REPUBLICANS DENY THE EXISTENCE OF GLOBAL WARMING, APPARENTLY, THEY HAVE EVEN BLOCKED FUNDING TO MONITOR ITS IMPACTS. THIS RECKLESS POLICY RIDER DOESN'T JUST ENDANGER POLAR BEARS, CORAL REEFS AND COUNTLESS OTHER SPECIES AND ECOSYSTEMS, IT ENDANGERS AMERICAN INFRASTRUCTURE. FROM THE NORFOLK NAVAL BASE TO THE JEFFERSON MEMORIAL. IT ENDANGERS PUBLIC HEALTH BY INCREASING SMOG SOLUTION AND HEALTH-RELATED DEATHS AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE RECENT HEAT WAVE THAT SWEPT ACROSS THE EAST AND MIDWEST UNITED STATES, SETTING RECORD TEMPERATURES HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., NEWARK AND OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE EASTERN SEABOARD. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS RECKLESS LEGISLATION THAT DEFUNDS CRITICAL LAND PROGRAMS, EVISCERATE 40 YEARS OF ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND DESECRATES THE MEMORY OF TEDDY ROOSEVELT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:49:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

  • 05:49:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:49:52 PM

    MR. POLIS

    OUR COUNTRY IS FACING AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT MOMENT AS CRITICAL DECISIONS…

    OUR COUNTRY IS FACING AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT MOMENT AS CRITICAL DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE REGARDING THE NATIONAL DEBT AND OUR LONG-TERM DEFICIT AND HOW TO CONSTRAIN SPENDING. MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS AISLE RECOGNIZE THE REALITY THAT WE NEED TO RESTORE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IN OUR BUDGET. HOWEVER, MR. SPEAKER, IN TIMES OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE WE NEED TO STAY FOCUS ON WHAT OUR COUNTRY NEEDS AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND AVOID THE TEMPTATION TO PLAY POLITICS AS THIS BILL DOES. FAR TOO MUCH HAS BEEN CARRIED OUT BY THE MAJORITY PARTY UNDER THE GUISE OF COST CUTTING AND THE DEFICIT WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY POLICYMAKING TO IMPLEMENT A HARD RIGHT RADICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA WHICH CAN ACTUALLY COST MORE MONEY IN BOTH THE SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM. MR. SPEAKER, THE CUTS PROPOSED BY THE MAJORITY IN BILL HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IMPLEMENTING RADICAL ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL IDEOLOGY. THE BILL MAKES SWEEPING CUTS TO CRITICAL PROGRAMS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH, REDUCE OUR EXPENDITURES FOR HEALTH CARE, PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND KEEP INDUSTRY FROM RUNNING OVER THE PUBLIC AND CONSUMER RIGHTS. YET, AT THE SAME TIME IT DOES THAT, MR. SPEAKER, IT INCREASES SPENDING ON PROGRAMS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE THAN HANDOUTS TO OIL COMPANIES AND MINING COMPANIES. ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG GROUP, THE GRAND DADDY OF FEDERAL SUBSIDIES IT WAS CALLED. THIS ISN'T ABOUT SAVING TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES IN THIS BILL. IT'S ABOUT SLASHING ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS OR GIVING HANDOUTS IN SOME OF THE MOST DIRTIEST INDUSTRIES. THERE IS MORE PORK IN THIS BILL. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SPENDING BILL THAT -- DEMANDED BY THE NATION'S WORST POLLUTERS, OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS WHO RECEIVE HANDOUTS UNDER THIS BILL. YET, WHILE THIS BILL WOULD DO AWAY WITH THE CLEAN WATER ACT, PUTTING THE REST OF US IN DANGER BECAUSE MOUNTAIN TOP COAL MINING INDUSTRIES AND FACTORY FARMS WANT IT AND WHILE IT DOES AWAY WITH PROVISIONS OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT, THERE WILL BE MORE TOXIC MERCURY, ARSENIC AND LEAD IN OUR AIR AND PUT OUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH AT RISK. STATES WOULD BE BLOCKED FROM MOVING AHEAD WITH THEIR OWN CLEAN CAR STANDARDS, THREATENING THE HEALTH OF AMERICA'S CHILDREN, ELDERLY CITIZENS AND OTHER CITIZEN TO ELIMINATE DANGEROUS CARBON POLLUTION FROM POWER PLANTS AND OTHER STATIONARY SOURCES. THIS BILL EXAT THE INDICTS URANIUM MINING IN THE GRAND CANYON, GIVES PUBLIC EXEMPTION OF GRAZING ON PUBLIC LANDS, DOESN'T PROTECT BIG HORN SHEEP AND GRAY WOLVES AND OTHER ELEMENTS THAT THREATEN OUR ENVIRONMENT AND ARE AN ADDITIONAL HANDOUT TO BIG OIL. THIS IS A POLLUTERS' WISH LIST OF SUBSIDIES, HANDOUT AND PORK. THE MAJORITY CAN CALL IT WHAT THEY WILL BUT DON'T SAY THIS BILL SERVES THE CAUSE OF COST CUTTING WHILE IT LARDS UP PROGRAMS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE THAN A SUBSIDY TO WEALTHY MINING AND DRILLING INTERESTS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:52:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE?

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  • 05:53:07 PM

    MR. RICHMOND

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 05:53:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 05:53:10 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA. PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER THE…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA. PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT DECREESD BY $6 MILLION. PAGE 19, LINE TO , AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREESD BY $5 MILLION.

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  • 05:53:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    RULE , THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AND A PERSON OPPOSED…

    RULE , THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AND A PERSON OPPOSED WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 05:53:37 PM

    MR. RICHMOND

    CHAIRMAN, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS INCREASES THE FUNDING FOR OUR BUREAU…

    CHAIRMAN, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS INCREASES THE FUNDING FOR OUR BUREAU OF OCEANS MANAGEMENT AND ENFORCEMENT BY $5 MILLION. WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO QUICKEN THE PACE TO PERMIT APPROVAL AND IN TURN PROMOTE THE RATE OF OIL AND GAS INVESTMENT IN THE GULF REGION. TO ACCOMPLISH THIS INVESTMENT, WE WILL REDUCE THE RANGE LAND MANAGEMENT FUND BY $6 MILLION WHICH STILL LEAVES THAT FUND ABOVE ITS FISCAL YEAR 2011 FUNDING LEVELS. NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME POINT OUT TO YOU WHY THIS IS THE WISE THING TO DO. IN RESPONSE TO THE DEEPWATER HORIZON EXPLOSION AND THE RESULTING OIL SPILL LAST YEAR, IN MAY THE ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM, HALTING THE PERMITS OF OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION ON THE O.C.S. THE MORATORIUM WAS LIFTED BUT SINCE THEN THE PERMITS HAVE BEEN SLOW. PRESIDENT OBAMA DIRECTED THEM TO REORGANIZE ITSELF INTO TWO INDEPENDENT GROUPS. ONE THAT HANDLES REVENUE FROM OIL AND GAS LEASING AND THE OTHER THAT REGULATES THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. THIS IS ALL THE CHANGE THAT MOST OF US BELIEVE IS NECESSARY AND WISE. HOWEVER, THE SPEED OF PERMITTING ACTIVITY HAS NOT RETURNED TO PRE-DEEPWATER HORIZON LEVELS. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AND GROWING BACKLOG OF DRILLING PLANS PENDING APPROVAL. THE NUMBER OF PENDING DEEP-WATER EXPLORATION AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS HAS INCREASED BY MORE THAN 250%. THIS IS UP FROM A HISTORIC AVERAGE OF 18 PLANS PENDING TO NOW NEARLY 65 PENDING APPROVAL. ALSO, THERE'S A DRASTIC DECLINE IN DRILLING PERMIT APPROVALS. DEEP-WATER EXPLORATION AND DRILLING PERMIT APPROVALS HAVE DECLINED BY APPROXIMATELY 80%, DOWN FROM AN AVERAGE OF NEARLY 160 PER YEAR TO A PACE OF ONLY 30 PER YEAR. SHALLOW-WATER EXPLORATION AND DROFMENTE, DRILLING PERMITS HAVE ALSO DROPPED BY NEARLY 50% FROM AN AVERAGE OF 390 PER YEAR TO A PACE OF FEWER THAN 180 A YEAR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A RECENT STUDY THAT SHOWED THAT INCREASING THE PACE OF PERMITTING AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE PACE AND SCALE OF INVESTMENT IN THE GULF WOULD CREATE 230,000 DOMESTIC JOBS IN 2012 AS WELL AS MORE THAN $44 BILLION OF U.S. GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT. AND I JUST WANT TO HARP ON THAT NUMBER FOR A SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE AS WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE 112TH CONGRESS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEMANDING THAT WE USE THE MONEY WE HAVE EFFICIENTLY SO THAT WE CAN INVEST IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND GET A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. SO HERE WE'RE ASKING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR $5 MILLION AND ASKING OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE WHO EARLIER THIS YEAR PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT WAS PURPORTED TO INCREASE DRILLING AND TO LOWER GAS PRICES. WELL, NOW THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE $5 MILLION, INVEST IT AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE 230,000. THERE ARE 14.1 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MR. SPEAKER, WHO ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING EMPLOYMENT WHO CAN'T FIND IT. HERE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HELP 230,000 OF THEM IN FISCAL YEAR 2012 ALONE SAND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE OUR GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT BY $44 MILLION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING. THEY WANT US TO USE OUR MONEY WISELY. THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES. I'D JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDE OF THE AISLES TO SUPPORT THIS. IT'S A JOB-CREATION AMENDMENT, AND I WOULD JUST ASK FOR THE SUPPORT, AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:57:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 05:57:37 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD IN OPPOSITION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE $6 MILLION…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE $6 MILLION FROM B.L.M.'S LANDS AND RESOURCES AND TRANSFER IT. THE B.L.M.'S MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN CUT $43.5 MILLION BELOW FISCAL YEAR 2011. THIS FUND ALLOWS THE B.L.M. TO TAKE CARE OF MORE THAN 235 MILLION SURFACE ACRES, FURTHER CUTS TO THIS ACCOUNT WOULD NOT BE WARRANTED. I WANT TO COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FOR THE LOCATION WHERE HE WANTS TO SEND THE MONEY. HAVE NO BIG OPPOSITION TO THE INCREASE IN THE OTHER SPENDING, BUT WE DID THE BEST WE COULD TO BALANCE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. BOMA HAS ALREADY BEEN INCREASED ABOVE 2011. IT HAS BEEN INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY IN SEVERAL CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS. THEREFORE, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE OFFSET, I URGE OUR COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:58:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE? THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 05:59:04 PM

    MR. RICHMOND

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY LOUISIANA -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE?

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  • 05:59:18 PM

    MR. RICHMOND

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA. PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER…

    AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA. PAGE 2, LINE 20, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT REDUCED BY $10,617,000. PAGE 10, LINE 21, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASED BY $10,617,000.

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  • 05:59:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. RICHMOND

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, I RISE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE WISE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, I RISE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE WISE INVESTMENTS INTO THE FUTURE AND STABILITY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY. FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS THE NORTH AMERICAN WHALING CONSERVATION ACT HAS CREATED JOBS AND SERVED AS AN IMPORTANT INVESTMENT TO OUR NATION'S ECONOMY AND FOR WETLANDS IN EVERY SINGLE STATE. IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR RESTORING 26 MILLION ACRES OF WETLANDS, EQUIVALENT TO THE STATE OF OHIO. NOT ONLY DID IT RESTORE OVER 26 MILLION ACRES, IT ALSO CREATED NEARLY 7,500 JOBS ANNUALLY AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN WORKER EARNINGS EVERY YEAR. . IF WE LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 APPROPRIATIONS WITH $37.5 MILLION DOWN FROM $47.6 MILLION FROM FISCAL YEAR 2010. THIS BILL ALLOCATES ONLY $20 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012, A CUT OF 47% FROM FISCAL YEAR 2011 LEVELS AND 58% FROM FISCAL YEAR 2010. HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART. THE LAW REQUIRES THAT EACH FEDERAL DOLLAR PUT INTO THE PROGRAM BE MATCHED BY $1 IN NONFEDERAL FUNDS. BECAUSE THE COMPETITION FOR THESE DOLLARS IS SO GREAT, ON AVERAGE, EACH FEDERAL DOLLAR IS MATCHED THREE TO ONE. I THINK THAT -- OVER AND OVER AGAIN I KEEP SAYING THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR US TO SPEND MONEY IN GREAT COUNTRY WHERE WE GET A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM WHERE FOR EVERY $1 WE SPEND ON THIS PROGRAM, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET $3. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN THESE GREAT ECONOMIC HARD SHIP TIMES. I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY IN THIS BILL, AND PUT MONEY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE JOHNS AND AT THE SAME TIME PRESERVE AND RESTORE OUR WETLANDS. THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I THINK IS THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO, THE WISE THING TO DO AND I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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  • 06:02:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT YIELD BLOCKS OF TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT YIELD BLOCKS OF TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 06:02:06 PM

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    TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF…

    TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE RICHMOND AMENDMENT AND IN OPPOSITION TO THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT PROPINGS AND I DO SO BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE SUCH DRASTIC CUTS TO PROGRAMS THAT BENEFIT OUR NATION'S DRINKING WATER AND REDUCE THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.

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  • 06:02:29 PM

    MR. DAVIS

    FOR EXAMPLE, ILLINOIS WHERE I LIVE, THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM HAS A…

    FOR EXAMPLE, ILLINOIS WHERE I LIVE, THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM HAS A REQUIRED INVEST OMENT $13.5 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS TO REPLACE AGING FACILITIES AND COMPLY WITH SAFE DRINKING REGULATIONS. IN 2009, TOTAL FEDERAL FUNDING FOR DRINKING WATER WAS LESS THAN $3 BILLION, WHICH INCLUDED A ONE-TIME $2 BILLION INFUSION OF FUNDS FROM THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT. WITHIN COOK COUNTY, A LARGE PORTION OF MY DISTRICT, WE CAN TAKE ONLY HALF AN INCH OF RAIN WATER BEFORE FLOODING TAKES PLACE. THIS MEANS SEVERE SEWER WATER AND OTHER CONTAMINATION FLOODING STREETS AND HOMES. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO REDUCE THE HEALTH AN SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS AND WE CANNOT DISRUPT OUR ENVIRONMENT. AGAIN, I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND URGE SUPPORT OF HIS AMENDMENT AND URGE THAT WE DEFEAT THE OVERALL APPROPRIATION BILL. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:03:37 PM

    MR. RICHMOND

    MR. CHAIRMAN, IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF MY SMALL…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF MY SMALL ATTEMPTS TO MAKE AN AWFUL BILL JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:03:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

  • 06:03:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. MR.

  • 06:04:02 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. WE INDICATED THE ACCOUNT IS…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. WE INDICATED THE ACCOUNT IS ALREADY CUT BELOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 LEVEL AND $15.5 BILLION BELOW THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. IN ADDITION, THIS TIME THE PRESIDENT ATTEMPTS TO REACH THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT AND WANTS TO REDUCE IT BY $6.8 MILLION. THAT ACCOUNT, NOBODY LIKES TO STAND UP FOR BUREAUCRATS OR SECRETARIES AROUND HERE THAT ACCOUNT HAS BEEN CUT BY $33.5 MILLION. ANY FURTHER REDUCTIONS COULD IMPEDE THE NEW OFFICE OF NATURAL RESOURCE REVENUE WHICH COLLECTS THE REVENUES FOR ON AND OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION WHICH I KNOW IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR FRIENDS IN AMERICA. FOR THOSE REASON, NOT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO PUT THE FUNDS BUT WHERE THEY COME FROM, I URGE OPPOSITION. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:04:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA.…

    THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 06:05:14 PM

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    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MS. HOCHUL OF NEW YORK, PAGE THREE, LINE THREE, AFTER THE…

    OFFERED BY MS. HOCHUL OF NEW YORK, PAGE THREE, LINE THREE, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT REDUCED BY $4,452,000. AFTER PAGE THREE LINE FOUR, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT REDUCED BY $4,452,000.

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  • 06:05:46 PM

    MS. HOCHUL

    I BELIEVE MY AMENDMENT WILL APPEAL TO BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. I'VE HEARD…

    I BELIEVE MY AMENDMENT WILL APPEAL TO BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. I'VE HEARD IF THE REPUBLICANS WE NEED TO CUT OUR EXPENSES. MY AMENDMENT DOES JUST THAT. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE $4.4 MILLION IN SPENDING INCREASES AND RETURN THOSE VERY FUNDS TO DEFICIT REDUCTION. THOSE OF US WHO ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE TAXPAYERS SHOULD NOT HAND OVER AN ADDITIONAL $4 HADN'T 4 MILLION JUST TO HELP OUT THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY BUT ALSO -- WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. WHAT MY AMENDMENT DOES IS REMOVE A $4 HADN'T 4 MILLION INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR OIL AND GAS MANAGEMENT. I CANNOT STAND HERE AND SUPPORT AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN TAXPAYER FUNDING AT A TIME WHEN OTHER PARTS OF THIS BUDGET ARE BEING SLASHED. FORGIVE ME TODAY IF I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR BIG OIL. LAST QUARTER, EXXON POSTED $11.4 BILLION IN PROFITS ALONE, ONE QUARTER ALONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. ROYAL DUTCH SHELL POSTED OVER $6 BILLION PROFIT IN ONE QUARTER ALONE. THE ADDITIONAL $4 HADN'T 4 MILLION ADDED TO HELP OUT THE OIL AND GAS COMPANIES TO COVER THEIR PERMIT APPLICATION PROCESSING IS LITERALLY POCKET CHANGE FOR THESE BIG COMPANIES. WE ALL LIVE IN TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AND WE CAME TO CONGRESS TO MAKE TOUGH DIGS. WE NEED TO CUT SPENDING. THAT'S WHY I ASK MY CHEEGS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND SUPPORT THIS FUNDING -- AND CUT THIS SPENDING INCREASE. IN MY AMENDMENT, I DO NOT ADDRESS DRILLING WHATSOEVER. THIS IS SIMPLY AN ISSUE OF FAIRNESS FOR TAXPAYERS. IN TIMES OF GOVERNMENT AUSTERITY AND RECORD PROFITS FOR OIL COMPANIES, THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY A STATEMENT THAT THESE COMPANIES SHOULD PAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH FILING THEIR APPLICATIONS. SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ASKING OUR SENIORS AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO PAY MORE DURING THESE TOUGH TIMES. I DO. I THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR TO INCREASE SPENDING IN THEIR AREAS AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE HURTING OUR SENIORS. ALMOST EVERY OTHER PART OF THE BILL IS BEING SLASHED BUT THE ONE THAT GREASES THE SKIDS FOR OIL COMPANIES TO GET THEIR APPROVAL IS BEING INCRESSED. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT WITH OUR NATIONAL PRIORITIES AND I BELIEVE THAT REASONABLE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WILL AGREE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:08:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 06:08:24 PM

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    THE LAST WORD IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THIS WOULD -- THE B.L.M. STILL COLLECTS THE FEE, THEY JUST WON'T BE ABLE…

    THIS WOULD -- THE B.L.M. STILL COLLECTS THE FEE, THEY JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEND THE FUNDS. THIS MAKES LITTLE SENSE AS THOUGH FEES OFFSET THE COST TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE PROGRAMS ARE PAID FOR BY THE INDUSTRY, NOT TAXPAYERS. IN OTHER WORDS, THE B.L.M. WILL HAVE THE COST OF THESE PROGRAMS BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED TO SPEND THE FEES IT'S COLLECTED. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:09:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE YOM FROM NEW YORK. THOSE…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE YOM FROM NEW YORK. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 06:09:23 PM

    MS. HOCHUL

    ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO…

    18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER, AN AMENDMENT BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA, AN AMENDMENT BY MR. HUELSKAMP OF KANSAS, AN AMENDMENT BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA AND AN AMENDMENT BY MS. HOCHUL OF NEW YORK. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO FIVE MINUTES THE TIME FOR ANY ELECTRONIC VOTE AFTER THE FIRST VOTE IN THE SERIES. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. MORAN, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:10:17 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE --

  • 06:36:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    NAYS ARE 237, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BIDS IS THE…

    NAYS ARE 237, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BIDS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. HUELSKAMP, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY ROYCE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:36:51 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. HUELSKAMP OF KANSAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. THIS WILL BE A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:43:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 126, THE NAYS ARE 284, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE…

    YEAS ARE 126, THE NAYS ARE 284, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CLEAVER, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:43:34 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. CLEAVER OF MISSOURI.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:49:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 165, THE NAYS ARE 248. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.…

    VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 165, THE NAYS ARE 248. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA, MR. RICHMOND, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND YEAS PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE.

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  • 06:50:10 PM

    THE CLERK

    BY MR. RICHMOND OF LOUISIANA.

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    THE CHAIR

    OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR…

    OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:55:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE YEAS ARE 221 AND THE NAYS IS 192. THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. UNFINISHED…

    THE YEAS ARE 221 AND THE NAYS IS 192. THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND THE NOES PREVAILED. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:56:12 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MS. HOCHUL OF NEW YORK.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING…

    A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:02:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 141, THE NAYS ARE 271. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 141, THE NAYS ARE 271. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 07:02:15 PM

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DO NOW RISE.

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    THE CHAIR

    SON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    SON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES VISIT. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 07:03:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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    TO THE DESK A PRIVILEGE RED PORT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON RULES FOR FILING…

    TO THE DESK A PRIVILEGE RED PORT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON RULES FOR FILING UNDER THE RULE.

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  • 07:03:35 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE.

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    THE CLERK

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H R. 1938 TO…

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H R. 1938 TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEDITE THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE OIL PIPELINE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 07:03:55 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE CALENDAR AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN…

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE CALENDAR AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. WILL THE MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER. MEMBERS PLEASE CLEAR THE WELL AND TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20 THE CHAIR WILL POSTPONE FURTHER PROCEEDINGS TODAY ON THE MOTIONS TO SUSPEND THE RULES ON WHICH A RECORDED VOTE OR THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. OR ON WHICH THE VOTE INCUR OBJECTION UNDER CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 20. RORED VOTES ON PROPOSED QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN LATER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    I MOVE THAT THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 1103, A BILL TO…

    I MOVE THAT THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 1103, A BILL TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE INCUMBENT DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION.

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  • 07:05:37 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE BILL.

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    THE CLERK

    EXTEND THE TERM OF THE INCUMBENT DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF…

    EXTEND THE TERM OF THE INCUMBENT DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION.

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  • 07:05:46 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. SMITH AND THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. SMITH AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MANY CONYERS, WILL EACH CONTROL 20 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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  • 07:05:54 PM

    MR. SMITH

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS REMARKS ON S. 1103 CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION.

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  • 07:06:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. SMITH

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:06:15 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THIS SEPTEMBER 11 MARKS THE 10-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE WORST TERRORIST…

    THIS SEPTEMBER 11 MARKS THE 10-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK IN U.S. HISTORY. AMERICA IS FORTUNATE NOT TO HAVE SUFFERED ANOTHER ATTACK OF SUCH MAGNITUDE AND DEVASTATION IN THE PAST DECADE.

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  • 07:06:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE THE…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS. THE GENTLEMAN WILL CONTINUE.

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  • 07:06:36 PM

    MR. SMITH

    AMERICA HAS REMAINED SAFE, NOT BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO DENY US…

    AMERICA HAS REMAINED SAFE, NOT BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO DENY US OUR FREEDOMS AND DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE HAVE GIVEN UP. WE ARE SAFE BECAUSE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY WITH DEVOTION AND DISTINCTION, THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE ARMS FORCE -- ARMED FORCES, INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THEY MAKE TREMENDOUS SACRIFICES TO KEEP US SAFE AND KEEP TERRORISTS ON THE RUN. THEIR WORK IS OFTEN UNRECOGNIZED AND UNDERAPPRECIATED. IN ADDITION TO ENSURE THAT TERRORISTS ARE DENIED VICTORY, SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS PROTECT FROM CRIME AND ENSURE THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED. THE AGENCY CHARGED WITH THIS UNIQUE DUTY IS THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION. THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR IS LIMITED TO A 10-YEAR, NONRENEWABLE TERM. CONGRESS IMPOSED THIS RESTRICTION TO ENSURE POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE AND ACT AS A RESTRAINT ON UNBRIDLED POWER AND THE POTENTIAL FOR MISUSE OF THAT POWER. IN JUST A FEW WEEKS, THE CURRENT F.B.I. DIRECTOR, ROBERT S. MUELLER III, WILL CONCLUDE HIS 10-YEAR TERM. THE PRESIDENT HAS ASKED FOR A ONE-TIME, TWO-YEAR EXTENSION FOR MR. MUELLER TO ENSURE CONTINUITY IN AMERICA'S NATIONAL SECURITY TEAM. THE KILLING OF OSAMA BIN LADEN AND PERSONNEL CHANGES IN KEY NATIONAL SECURITY POSTS MAKE THESE UNUSUAL TIMES THAT JUSTIFY A SHORT-TERM EXTENSION. DIRECTOR MUELLER HAS SHOWN HIMSELF A DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT WHO KEPT TERRORISM AT BAY AND REDUCED CRIME. HE ASSUMED LEADERSHIP OF THE F.B.I. ON SEPTEMBER 4, 2001, JUST ONE WEEK PRIOR TO THE ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001. WE HAS REFORMED THE F.B.I. TO ENSURE IT IS ABLE TO ADDRESS NOT ONLY TERRORIST THREAT BUS ALSO THREATS POSED BY TRADITIONAL CRIMINALS. THIS REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION WAS NOT MADE BY MR. MUELLER BUT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. MR. MUELLER HAS AGREED TO ACCEPT THIS EXTENSION IF IT IS APPROVED BY CONGRESS. IT IS NOT EVERY DAY THAT THE HOUSE, THE SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE CAN AGREE BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL CAN AGREE ON. THIS BILL CREATES A NEW, ONE-TIME-ONLY, TWO-YEAR TERM OF SERVICE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION. MR. MUELLER WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE APPOINTED TO THIS NEW TERM OF SERVICE WITH THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE SENATE. THE SENATE WILL HOLD A CONFIRMATION VOTE AFTER THE PRESIDENT SIGN THIS IS BILL. THE NEW TERM WOULD EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 4, 2013, AFTER WHICH MR. MUELLER WOULD NO LONGER SERVE AS DIRECTOR. THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE PRESIDENT FROM APPOINTING A NEW INDIVIDUAL TO A 10-YEAR TERM BY AND WITH THE ADVICE OF THE SENATE. IF THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO CONTINUE THE SERVICES OF THE INCUMBENT THIS BILL ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN FOR A LIMITED TIME AND IN A CONSTITUTIONAL MANNER. MR. SPEAKER, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:09:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. MR. CONYERS OF MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:09:40 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. I AM PLEASED TO…

    MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. I AM PLEASED TO JOIN WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE IN SUPPORT OF THE SENATE BILL WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE TERM THAT THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER WHOSE 10-YEAR TERM EXPIRES ON AUGUST 2. ON MAYE 12 OF THIS YEAR, PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCED HIS DESIRE TO EXTEND THAT TERM BY TWO YEARS. AT THE TIME, THE PRESIDENT SAID, AND I QUOTE, IN HIS 10 YEARS AT THE F.B.I., BOB MUELLER HAS SET THE GOLD STANDARD FOR LEADING THE BUREAU. GIVEN THE ONGOING THREATS FACING THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE LEADERSHIP TRANSITIONS AND OTHER AGENCIES LIKE THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT AND THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, I BELIEVE CONTINUITY AND STABILITY AT THE F.B.I. IS CRITICAL AT THIS TIME. I AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT'S REMARKS AND I'M CONFIDENCE -- I'M CONFIDENT THAT DIRECTOR MUELLER WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH INTEGRITY AND RESPECT FOR AMERICANS' RIGHTS AS HE ENSURES THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE NATION NEEDS TO KNOW AS MUCH AS AT ANY TIME -- NEEDS HIM NOW AS MUCH AS AT ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY, AN F.B.I. CAPABLE OF A MISSION TO BEST PROTECT US FROM A VARIETY OF CRIMINALS WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN UNDER MUELLER'S LEADERSHIP. I CONGRATULATE HIM ON HIS NOTE WORTHY 10-YEAR TERM AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH HIM AND WITH THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY. THE JOB OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION IS CRITICAL. AND THAT AGENCY MUST HAVE EXPERIENCE AND -- EXPERIENCED AND CAPABLE LEADERSHIP. THERE ARE MANY THREATS WHICH THE F.B.I. MUST CONCENTRATE ITS LIMITED RESOURCES ON. RANGING FROM INTERSTATE VIOLENT CRIME, ORGANIZED CRIME, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN, CORPORATE FRAUD, MORTGAGE FRAUD, CYBERCRIMES, AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM. IT'S TIME -- AS TIME ADVANCES, SO DOES THE DEMANDS WE PLACE ON THE F.B.I. AND ITS AGENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTY THE DIRECTOR MUST FACE WHEN DETERMINING HOW TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES. AS THESE DEMANDS GROW AND THE NATURE OF THREATS EVOLVE, I HOPE THE F.B.I. WILL MAINTAIN AN APPROPRIATE DEGREE OF FOCUS ON THE TYPES OF CRIME THAT IMPACT AVERAGE AMERICANS EVERY DAY, WHETHER IT BE FRAUD AGAINST SENIORS, CORPORATE OFFICES DEFRAUDING INVESTORS, CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY THOSE WHO ABUSE POWER, THEFT OF INDIVIDUAL IDENTITIES OR ELECTRONIC INTRUSION INTO PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. DIRECTOR MUELLER IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO CONTINUE TO LEAD THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION IN CONFRONTING THESE CHALLENGES AT THIS TIME. HE'S PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE HONEST, FRANK AND COMMITTED TO THE RULE OF LAW. WHILE THIS EXTENSION IS UNUSUAL, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GRANT IT SO THAT WE HAVE CONTINUITY IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE F.B.I. AT THIS CRITICAL TIME. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE AND SINCE WE HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME I -- I WILL, IF THE CHAIR PERMITS, I'LL YIELD TWO MINUTES TO OUR DISTINGUISHED MEMBER FROM TEXAS, MS. SHEILA JACKSON LEE.

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  • 07:14:16 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED --

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

  • 07:14:25 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: THANK YOU. AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, I WANT TO…

    LEE: THANK YOU. AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, I WANT TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, ON WHICH I ALSO SERVE, TO NOTE THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR TIME. THERE'S A POINT THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE CONTINUITY OF THE EXISTING F.B.I. DIRECTOR MUELLER. AND THAT IS THAT WE LIVE NOT ONLY IN DANGEROUS TIMES, BUT WE ALSO LIVE IN TIMES WHERE RESOURCES ARE BEING STRAINED. QUESTIONS ARE BEING RAISED ABOUT THE RESOURCES NECESSARY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CERTAINLY A LEADER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE BROAD NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THE COLLABORATIVE NEEDS, COLLABORATING WITH OTHER LAW EP FORCEMENT, BECAUSE OF PAST EXPERIENCES, IS VERY IMPORTANT. MR. MUELLER IN HIS 110 YEARS HAS HAD COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS WITH ALL OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND HAS OPENED UP A DIALOGUE BETWEEN LOCAL AND STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, JUST AS -- JUST ASK NEW YORK TO TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. ASK TEXAS. A NUMBER OF OUR OTHER LARGE STATES WITH ASSETS THAT ARE IN THE EYE OF THE STORM OF POTENTIAL TERRORIST ACTS. SO I JOIN WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PRESIDENT FOR ASKING THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR TO STAY FOR TWO EXTRA YEARS AND THAT THIS DOES NOT UNDERMINE THE 10-YEAR T THAT IS BY LAW. AND I ASK COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:16:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK.

  • 07:16:11 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME. I YIELD BACK THE…

    MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:16:16 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

  • 07:16:20 PM

    MR. SMITH

    MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL TIME AND I'LL YIELD BACK…

    MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL TIME AND I'LL YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AS WELL.

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  • 07:16:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS SENATE 1103. THOSE…

    QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS SENATE 1103. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED, THE BILL IS PASSED AND WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND CONCUR WITH THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R.…

    I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND CONCUR WITH THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED.

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  • 07:17:10 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE BILL.

  • 07:17:14 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO TEMPORARILY PRESERVE HIGHER RATES FOR TUITION AND FEES FOR PROGRAMS OF…

    TO TEMPORARILY PRESERVE HIGHER RATES FOR TUITION AND FEES FOR PROGRAMS OF EDUCATION AT NONPUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING PURSUED BY INDIVIDUALS ENROLLED IN THE POST-9/11 EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OF THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS BEFORE THE ENACTMENT OF THE POST-9/11 VETERANS EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE IMPROVEMENTS ACT OF 2010 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 07:17:39 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. MILLER, AND THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. MILLER, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. FILNER, EACH WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

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  • 07:17:50 PM

    MR. MILLER

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 07:17:55 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:17:57 PM

    MR. MILLER

    I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED,…

    I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED, THE RESTORING G.I. BILL FAIRNESS ACT OF 2011. THE BILL WILL TEMPORARILY RESTORE THE POST-9/11 G.I. BILL PROGRAM'S ORIGINAL METHOD OF PAYING TUITION AND FEES TO VETERANS ATTENDING PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN SEVERAL STATES. WHEN THE ORIGINAL POST-9/11 BILL WAS ENACTED, VETERANS WERE PROMISED THE V.A. WOULD PAY UP TO 100% OF TUITION AND FEES UP TO A STATE'S MOST EXPENSIVE IN-STATE UNDERGRADUATE TUITION AND FEE CHARGES AT A PUBLIC INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING. THE STATE-BASED CAP APPLIED TO VETERANS WHO CHOSE BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS. WHAT THIS MEANT WAS THAT SOME VETERANS ATTENDING SCHOOLS IN CERTAIN STATES, THAT THEIR TUITION AND FEE PAYMENTS COULD BE WELL IN EXCESS OF $20,000 ANNUALLY, VETERANS APPLIED AND ENROLLED IN THESE SCHOOLS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PROMISE. HOWEVER, IN AN EFFORT TO FIX SOME ELEMENTS OF THE ORIGINAL G.I. BILL, CONGRESS LEFT THOSE VETERANS IN A BIND. THE POST-9/11 VETERANS EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE IMPROVEMENT ACT WHICH WAS ENACT IN JANUARY OF 2011 MADE SEVERAL CHANGES AND ONE OF THOSE CHANGES INCLUDED A NATIONAL CAP OF $17,500 ON TUITION AND FEE PAYMENTS FOR VETERANS ATTENDING PRIVATE SCHOOLS, A CHANGE THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT ONE WEEK FROM TODAY. FOR VETERANS THAT WERE ENROLLED IN CERTAIN PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN SEVERAL STATES INCLUDING NEW YORK, TEXAS, ARIZONA, MICHIGAN, NEW HAMPSHIRE, PENNSYLVANIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, THIS CHANGE HAS REAL CONSEQUENCES. THEY WILL SEE THEIR TUITION AND FEE PAYMENTS REDUCED BY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND, MR. SPEAKER, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE THE RULES ON THESE VETERANS WHEN THEY HAD ALREADY DECIDED TO ATTEND THE SCHOOL OF THEIR CHOICE AND MAKE FINANCIAL DECISIONS BASED ON THOSE RULES. ON MAY 23 THE HOUSE UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL PROMISE MADE TO THESE VETERANS IN H.R. 1383. THE SENATE HAS NOW ACTED, ACTED ON THAT BILL AND WE'RE READY TO FINISH THE JOB AND SEND THE BILL TO THE PRESIDENT BEFORE THESE CUTS CAN TAKE PLACE. SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE MEASURE, THE SENATE AMENDMENT WOULD TEMPORARILY RESTORE THE CAP ON TUITION FEES TO THE STATE-BASED METHOD EFFECTIVE ON AUGUST 1, 2011. THIS INCREASE WOULD APPLY ONLY TO VETERANS WHO WERE ENROLLED IN NONPUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JANUARY OF 2011. IN OTHER WORDS THEY HAD TO HAVE ALREADY BEEN ENROLLED ON THE FOURTH OF JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, A CHANGE FROM THE HOUSE-PASSED VERSION WHICH WAS ACTUALLY HAPE 1 OF 2011. -- ACTUALLY APRIL 1 OF 2011. THOSE ENROLLED AFTER JANUARY 4, 2011, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NEW CAP. MR. SPEAKER, IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT SOME VETERANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE JANUARY 4 ELIGIBILITY DATE. WE HAVE TALKED WITH V.A., THEY HAVE ASSURED US THAT ANY VETERAN WHO HAS APPLIED AND WAS ACCEPTED TO A SCHOOL ON OR BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JANUARY OF 2011 WILL BE COVERED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR BILL THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING ON THE FLOOR TODAY. AND VETERANS WHO APPLIED OR WERE ACCEPTED AFTER THE FACT WILL BE GRANDFATHERED UNDER H.R. 1383. I BELIEVE V.A.'S INTERPRETATION OF THE BILL ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE HOUSE INTENT SO I WOULD NOTE THAT THIS BILL WAS, AS AMENDED, PASSED THE SENATE UNANIMOUSLY AND PASSED THIS BODY UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL. AT THIS TIME I'D RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND WOULD ENCOURAGE A POSITIVE VOTE BY ALL MY COLLEAGUES.

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  • 07:21:51 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:21:55 PM

    MR. FILNER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND I ALSO RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND I ALSO RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED AND I THANK CHAIRMAN MILLER FOR THE WORK HE HAS DONE ON THE BILL TO MAKE SURE IT WAS PALPABLE IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. LET ME JUST SAY, THOUGH, FOR THE RECORD, THE G.I. BILL UPDATES WHICH WE PASSED LAST CONGRESS WERE PASSED WITH A FULL SUPPORT OF VIRTUALLY EVERY VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATION IN THE NATION. THE MAJORITY OF WHICH SUBMITTED LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND STRONGLY ADVOCATED FOR THE BILL WHICH INCLUDED THIS TUITION CAP WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. EVERYONE WAS WELL AWARE OF THE AFFECT OF THE TUITION CAP SO I WAS SORT OF SURPRISED WHEN THESE SAME FOLKS STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY CALLED UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. I THINK EVERYBODY KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES. I KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR VETERANS MADE PLANS ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION BASED ON THE LAWS IN EFFECT BEFORE THEY STARTED. AND WHILE MOST STATES ENDED UP GETTING AN INCREASE WITH A NEW NATIONAL AVERAGE, A FEW STATES ALSO SAW A DECREASE. IT IS IN THESE STATES THAT H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED SEEKS TO HOLD HARMLESS OUR VETERANS FROM THE SO-CALLED UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THE TUITION CAP. OUR VETERANS HAVE INDEED, AS CHAIRMAN MILLER POINTED OUT, EARNED THEIR EDUCATION BENEFITS AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD SEEK TO AVOID ANY ACTIONS THAT MAY INTERFERE WITH THE USE OF THEIR BENEFITS. I AM PLEASED THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TAKING ACTION TO ALLEVIATE THIS POTENTIAL BURDEN ON A SMALL POPULATION OF THESE STUDENT VETERANS. THE START OF THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR OF COURSE IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER SO I HOPE THAT WITH OUR QUICK ACTION TODAY WE WILL HAVE THIS ISSUE SOLVED IN TIME FOR THE NEW ACADEMIC YEAR. WE HAVE MADE A FEW CHANGES TO IMPROVE THE SO-CALLED POST-9/11 G.I. BILL AND MORE CHANGES ARE STILL BEING CONTEMPLATED. AS THE VETERANS COMMITTEE AND AS A CONGRESS WE MUSTEN TO WORK HARD TO ENSURE FUTURE -- MUST ENSURE TO WORK HARD TO ENSURE FUTURE BENEFITS. I VOLUNTARY HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME, MR. SPEAKER, AND I WILL YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:24:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:24:12 PM

    MR. MILLER

    SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS…

    SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS IN WHICH TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS ON THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1383 AS AMENDED AND ONCE AGAIN I ENCOURAGE ALL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT MY MOTION TO CONCUR WITH THE SENATE AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:24:32 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND CONCUR WITH THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1383. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 07:24:50 PM

    MR. MILLER

    MR. SPEAKER, I REQUEST THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE A MESSAGE.

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  • 07:25:22 PM

    THE CLERK

    CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, PURSUANT TO THE INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY…

    CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, PURSUANT TO THE INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY ECONOMIC POWERS ACT, I HEREBY REPORT THAT I HAVE ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER DECLARING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO THE UNUSUAL AND EXTRAORDINARY THREAT THAT SIGNIFICANT TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS POSE TO NATIONAL SECURITY, FOREIGN POLICY AND ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES. ORGANIZED CRIME IS NO LONGER A LOCAL OR REGIONAL PROBLEM, IT HAS BECOME A DANGER TO INTERNATIONAL STABILITY, SIGNIFICANT TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY SFIFTCAILTED AND DANGEROUS TO THE UNITED STATES -- SOPHISTICATED AND DANGEROUS TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEY HAVE DESTABILIZED THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM. THESE GROUPS HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF GLOBALIZATION AND OTHER FACTORS TO DIVERSIFY THEIR GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE AND RANGE OF ACTIVITIES. THEY HAVE INCREASED AND DEEPENED THEIR TIES TO GOVERNMENTS AND THE INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM, RELYING NOT ONLY ON BRIBERY AND VIOLENCE BUT ALSO MORE AND MORE ON THE ABILITY TO EXPLOIT DIFFERENCES AMONG COUNTRIES AND TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN LEGAL FACADES TO HIDE HE LIST ACTIVITIES -- ILLICIT ACTIVITIES. THE HARM THAT THESE CRIMINALS THREATEN TODAY ARE MANY THEM. CORRUPT AND IN MANY CASES COOP GOVERNMENTS, THEREBY DESTABILIZING THEM AND WEAKENING DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AND THE RULE OF LAW. THEY THREATEN U.S. ECONOMIC INTERESTS BY SUBVERTING, EXPLOITING AND DESTROYING LEGITIMATE MARKETS AND COULD GAIN INFLUENCE IN STRATEGIC SECTORS OF THE WORLD ECONOMY. SIGNIFICANT TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ENGAGE IN CYBERCRIME THREATEN SENSITIVE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE COMPUTER NET, WITH, UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE -- NETWORKS, UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM AND IMPOSE COSTS ON THE AMERICAN CONSUMER. THOSE THAT ENGAGE IN THE THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY NOT ONLY ERODE U.S. COMPETITIVENESS BUT ALSO ENDANGER THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY THROUGH THE DISTRIBUTION OF TAINTED AND COUNTERFEIT GOODS. MANY OF THEM ALSO ENGAGE IN DRUG TRAFFICKING. FINALLY, SIGNIFICANT TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS INCREASINGLY SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES OF OTHER DANGEROUS PERSONS. THE EXECUTIVE ORDER I HAVE ISSUED TODAY IS ONE OF PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE GROWING THREAT OF TRANSNATIONAL ORGANIZED CRIME. THE ORDER TARGETS SIGNIFICANT TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS AND THE NETWORKS THAT SUPPORT THEM, STRIKING AT THE CORE OF THOSE NETWORKS, THEIR ABILITY AND NEED TO MOVE MONEY. IT DOES THIS BY BLOCKING THE PROPERTY AND INTERESTS AND PROPERTY OF FOREIGN TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS. I HAVE DELEGATED TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY THE AUTHORITY IN CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO TAKE ACTIONS INCLUDING THE PROMULGATION OF RULES AND REGULATIONS AND TO EMPLOY ALL POWERS GRANTED TO THE PRESIDENT BY IEEPA AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT THE PURPOSES OF THE ORDER. I AM ENCLOSING A COPPY OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER I HAVE ISSUED, SIGNED, BARACK OBAMA, THE WHITE HOUSE.

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  • 07:28:26 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE…

    REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO SPEAK?

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  • 07:28:46 PM

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    SO ORDERED.

  • 07:28:49 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    SO ORDERED.

  • 07:28:56 PM

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    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO PAY TRIBUTE TO AN AMERICAN HERO. NOT A HERO…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO PAY TRIBUTE TO AN AMERICAN HERO. NOT A HERO IN OUR TYPICAL SENSE OF THE WORD, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF HEROISM THAT WE'VE SEEN RECOMMEND CATED ACROSS THE FACE OF THIS GREAT NATION. TODAY, MR. SPEAKER, I PAY TRIBUTE TO TERRY R. GORSACH. HE WAS A MAN WHO EMBODIED CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE RIGHTLY HONNER IN OUR COUNTRY. HE WORKED HARD, OVERCAME ADVERSITY AND IN BUSINESS HE INNOVATED.

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  • 07:29:27 PM

    MR. TIPTON

    I RISKED ALL AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND THROUGH PERSEVERANCE WAS REWARDED…

    I RISKED ALL AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND THROUGH PERSEVERANCE WAS REWARDED WITH HIS SUCCESSFUL COMPANY. THE STORY COULD STOP THERE. BUT HE BELIEVED HIS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT AND BLESSING IN LIFE WAS HIS FAMILY. MARRIED TO HIS LOVING WIFE, RITA, FOR 45 YEARS, RAISING THEIR TWO CHILDREN, TRACY AND TERRY, AND THEN SEEING THEIR CHILDREN GROW TO ADULTHOOD, MARRY AND BLESS THE FAMILY WITH TWO GRANDCHILDREN. TERRY LED THE AMERICAN DREAM. HE WORKED HARD, PLAYED BY THE RULES, LOVED HIS FAMILY AND ALWAYS EXTENDED A HELPING HAND TO OTHERS. HE COULD NOT WIN HIS FINAL BATTLE AS HE SUCCUMBED TO LOU GERHIG'S DISEASE BUT HIS ADMIRABLE MORAL FIBER HELPED FIRM, EVEN AS THE FINAL STANDS -- SANDS OF HIS TIME SLIPPED FROM BENEATH HIS FEET. WE DON'T OFTEN REFLECT ON THE HEROES WHO MAKE THIS COUNTRY WORK AND HELP MAKE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS. BUT TODAY, MR. SPEAKER, I AM PROUD TO HONOR AN AMERICAN HERO, TERRY R. GORSACH. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:30:38 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ARE THERE FURTHER…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ARE THERE FURTHER REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES? THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE THE FOLLOWING PERSONAL REQUESTS.

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  • 07:30:55 PM

    THE CLERK

    OF ABSENCE REQUESTED FOR MR. BACA OF CALIFORNIA FOR FRIDAY, JULY 22, MR.…

    OF ABSENCE REQUESTED FOR MR. BACA OF CALIFORNIA FOR FRIDAY, JULY 22, MR. BERG OF NORTH DAKOTA, FOR TODAY, MR. DEFAZIO OF OREGON FOR TODAY, MRS. NAPOLITANO FOR TODAY UNTIL 5:00 P.M. AND MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA FOR TODAY.

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  • 07:31:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE REQUESTS ARE GRANTED. UNDER THE SPEAKER'S ANNOUNCED…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE REQUESTS ARE GRANTED. UNDER THE SPEAKER'S ANNOUNCED POLICY OF JANUARY 5, 2011, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, MRS. CHRISTENSEN, IS RECOGNIZED FOR 60 MINUTES AS THE DESIGNEE OF THE MINORITY LEADER.

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  • 07:31:35 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS IS PLEASED THAT OUR…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS IS PLEASED THAT OUR DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP HAS GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ONCE AGAIN COME TO THE FLOOR FOR THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC HOUR THIS EVENING. I WANT TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME AND HAVE ITED ME IN MY OFFICE AND MY DISTRICT THIS MORNING. I HAD A HAVE IT FROM AARP LEADERSHIP AND SOME OF THEIR ADVOCATES AND VOLUNTEER THIS IS MORNING IN MY ST. CROIX OFFICE. THEY CAME TO BRING THIS PETITION TO THE OFFICE SIGNED BY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE JUST ON ONE OF MY ISLANDS. AND IT SAYS, DEAR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, SENIORS AND FUTURE RETIREES EARNED THEIR BENEFITS AFTER A LIFETIME OF HARD WORK AND PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM YET SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM BOTH PARTIES ARE CONSIDERING HARMFUL CUTS TO MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY. I KNOW NOBODY IN THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS IS CONSIDERING THOSE KINDS OF CUTS. AS PART OF A DEAL TO PAY THE NATION'S BILLS, A DEAL THAT COULD DRAMATICALLY INCREASE HEALTH CARE COSTS FOR SENIORS AND FUTURE RETIREES, THREATEN THEIR ACCESS TO DONORS, HOSPITALS AN NURSING HOMES AND REDUCE BENEFIT CHECKS THEY RELY ON TO PAY THEIR BILLS. INSTEAD OF CUTTING THE BENEFITS OF SENIORS AND FUTURE RETIREES, CONGRESS SHOULD BE REDUCING WASTEFUL SPENDING AND CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES. INSTEAD OF SHIFT MANAGER COSTS TO SENIORS, THEY SHOULD BE WORKING TO HOLD DOWN COSTS TO EVERYONE. SO THESE UNDERSIGNED ARE CALLING ON US TO OPPOSE ANY DEAL THAT WOULD MAKE HARMFUL CUTS TO MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS AMERICANS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ALL THESE YEARS. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, MR. SPEAKER, AND COLLEAGUES, THERE WILL BE MORE OF THESE PETITIONS TO COME. SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT CAME TO MY OFFICE THIS MORNING ARE ALOMA PETERS, ELIZABETH, NICHOLAS, TMBING HEODORA MOOREHEAD, JOAN, MIGUEL RAMOS, RAMON, DORIS BROWN, PAUL SIMMONS, DENISE SINGLETON, JENNY DARGON, REPRESENTING THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT SENT THIS PETITION TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES. IN MY DISTRICT, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING, WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST UTILITY BILLS IN OUR COUNTRY. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IF THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS WERE NOT COMING TO THEM NEXT MONTH. BUT YOU KNOW, DEFAULT IS NOT CRUST CATASTROPHIC FOR INDIVIDUALS ON SOCIAL SECURITY. IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC FOR EVERYONE. IT'S CATASTROPHIC FOR OUR NATION AND ECONOMY. THE POOR WOULD LOSE THEIR SAFETY NET AND THE ABILITY TO PULL THEMSELVES OUT OF POVERTY, THE HELP THEY NEED AND THE MIDDLE CLASS WILL ALSO PAY A PRICE. IT WOULD BE SO CATASTROPHIC THAT MORTGAGE PAYMENTS WOULD INCREASE BY OVER $1,000 FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY. CREDIT CARD INTEREST WOULD INCREASE BY $250 MORE THE AVERAGE FAMILY. FAMILIES COULD PAY AN ADDITIONAL $182 PER YEAR ON EWITYITIES. I'M SURE OUR EWE TILLS WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. FAMILIES COULD PAY AN ADDITIONAL $318 ON FOOD. THEY COULD LOSE THOUSANDS IN THEIR RETIREMENT SAVINGS. WE ARE SO PROUD AND HONORED TO HAVE A LEADER LIKE NANCY PELOSI WHO HAS RETCHTED US IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND KEPT THE INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON THE TABLE. WE HAVE HEARD OF TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSALS COMING FORTH THIS EVENING. IT'S INTERESTING THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER HAS BROUGHT FORTH A PROPOSAL WITH STILL NO TAX HIKES. WE WERE NEVER TALKING ABOUT TAX HIKES, MR. SPEAKER. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LETTING THE TEMPORARY BUSH TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS EXPIRE AS THEY WERE ALWAYS INTENDED TO EXPIRE. THEIR -- HIS PROPOSAL SPEAKS ABOUT ENTITLEMENT REFORMS AND SAVINGS. I JUST READ THE LETTER FROM THE AARP THE PETITION, AT LEAST IN PART, WHICH CALLS ON US TO SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AN MEDICAID. YET THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL WOULD INCLUDE ENTITLEMENT REFORMS AND SAVINGS AND AGAIN, HERE COMES THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN A SHORT TERM LIFTING OF THE DEBT CEILING. SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT BRING THE STABILITY TO OUR ECONOMY AND THAT WOULD STILL PUT OUR CREDIT IN THE WORLD AT RISK. IT'S A TWO-STEP APPROACH TO HOLD PRESIDENT OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE. IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT? OR ARE WE TRYING TO RESTORE THE GOOD FAITH AND CREDIT OF THIS NATION. THEIR TWO-STEP APPROACH TO HOLD PRESIDENT OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE, I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, HE'S BEEN A GOOD PRESIDENT AND DOESN'T NEED US TO HELP HIM BE ACCOUNTABLE. THEY HAVE CUTS, THEY WANT CUTS THAT EXCEED THE DEBT HIKE. THE HIKE IN THE DEBT CEILING. THAT'S -- I THINK THAT'S A NEW ONE. I THOUGHT THAT ORIGINALLY WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A BALANCE BETWEEN THE LIFTING OF THE DEBT CEILING AND THE CUTS. WE HAVE TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING. WE KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES, THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE REPRESENT, WOULD LOSE FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS THAT THEY NEED. AGAIN HERE COMES THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT, ENTITLEMENT REFORMS AND NO TAX HIKES. I'VE BEEN JOINED BY SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I'D LIKE THEM TO JOIN IN THIS SPECIAL ORDER, IF THEY ARE READY AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND I'M ALWAYS PLEASED TO BE JOINED ON THESE MONDAY EVPKS BY THE GENTLELADY FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS, CONGRESSWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON LEE. WE'RE GLAD TO YIELD TO HER SUCH TIME AS SHE MIGHT CONSUME.

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  • 07:38:21 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I THANK THE YEALT FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. LET ME THANK YOU FOR PERSISTING…

    I THANK THE YEALT FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. LET ME THANK YOU FOR PERSISTING IN DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES WITH OUR COLLEAGUES. YOU HAVE BEEN DETERMINED AND YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS CAUSED US TO HAVE THIS, I THINK VERY THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. I'M ALSO PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM VIRGINIA WHO HAS DEVELOPED TENURE ON THESE ISSUES DEALING WITH THE BUDGET AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN HELPFUL, MR. SCOTT, ON REALLY SORT OF GETTING US THROUGH THE WEEDS AND IN AN HOUR OR TWO OR APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR AND A HALF, MAYBE, THE PRESIDENT WILL SPEAK TO THE NATION. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PRESIDENT TRULY APPRECIATES DEMOCRACY AND FRANKLY HAS NO PROBLEM WITH COMING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST MANNER. BUT IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO EDUCATE OURSELVES, TO EDUCATE OUR COLLEAGUES. BECAUSE WITH ALL THE CHATTER, IT SEEMS AS IF THEY'VE LOST THEIR WAY. SOON AFTER THE PRESIDENT SPEAKS TONIGHT, I BELIEVE AROUND 9:00, MR. BOEHNER WILL COME FORWARD. BUT IF OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS COME FORWARD ARE THEY COMEING FORWARD TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO INFORM THEM THAT THE DEBT CEILING HAS BEEN RAISED 100 TIMES BEFORE? WILL THEY EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2011 THEY'VE PUT DEBT CEILING IN YOUR VOCABULARY, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTED IN WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY. MOST AMERICANS DID NOT KNOW THAT TERMINOLOGY. BUT I THINK THOSE OF US WHO REMEMBER OUR HISTORY AND THOSE WHO STUDY THE CONSTITUTION, EVEN THOSE OF US WHO ARE LAWYERS, REMEMBER THE IMPORTANCE OF STUDYING THE CONSTITUTION AND WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE WORDS OF FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES. EVEN IN DIFFICULT DAYS, THAT KEEPS THE COUNTRY GOING. WHY? BECAUSE THE WORLD BUYS AMERICA'S TREASURY NOTICE. THEY BUY THEM WILLINGLY AND OPENLY AND EXCITEDLY WHICH MEANS OUR DOLLAR IS STRONG AND THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPILY HOLDING ON TO THE TREASURY NOTE. AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT AMERICA WILL NEVER DEFAULT ON HER DEBT. NOW IF YOU WANTED TO GET MORE DETAILS, I'D REFER YOU TO THE 14TH AMENDMENT, SECTION 4. THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS BUT THE CLEAR LANGUAGE SAYS THE PUBLIC DEBT SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED. OF COURSE, IT LISTS WARS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT OCCURRED IN THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THAT AMENDMENT BUT SCHOLARS HAVE NOT FORMED OPPOSITION TO THE THOUGHT, HARD CORE OPPOSITION THAT IT ALSO LIVES TODAY AND REALLY MEANS THAT WE MUST RECOGNIZE THE PUBLIC DEBT AND PAY OUR BILLS. SO FULL FAITH AND CREDIT AND A CONSTITUTIONAL PREMISE FOR DOING WHAT WE SHOULD DO. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST MOVE FORWARD SO THAT ON AUGUST 2, OR EVEN BEFORE THAT, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO FACE OUR SENIORS, LOOKING FOR THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS, OR MAYBE EVEN HAVE IT A NURSING HOME AS I HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND BEFORE AND SEE SENIORS THAT ARE ABLE TO PAY THEIR WAY BUT OTHERS WHO ARE ON MEDICAID. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A DRAMA AND A DRAMATIZATION TO SAY THAT SOME SENIORS WILL BE PUT OUT ON THE CURB BECAUSE THEY DEPEND UPON MEDICAID, EVEN THOSE WHO WORK, BUT HAD JOBS THAT DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A 401K OR LONG-TERM CARE, THEY DEPEND UPON MEDICAID. AND AS WE LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT WE WILL HEAR TONIGHT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE WEBSITE BY SPEAKER BOEHNER, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF FEAR THAT SOCIAL SECURITY, A REALISTIC FEAR, APPREHENSION MIGHT BE THE WORD WE WANT TO QUSE, THAT REALLY THE -- WE WANT TO USE THAT REALLY THE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID SOCIAL SECURITY SAFETY NET ARE IN THE EYE OF THE STORM. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT NO TAX HIKES, WHICH WE HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF THEM RAISE THEIR VOICES ON THAT, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND THIS DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP IN THE LAST CONGRESS GAVE TAX CUTS OTHER AND OVER AGAIN AND PARTICULARLY GAVE TAX CUTS TO THE WORKING AND MIDDLE CLASS. THE STIMULUS PACKAGE, THE AMERICAN RECOVERY REINVESTMENT ACT GAVE TAX CUTS. BUT HOW DO YOU TRULY SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU DO, WHICH IS TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT THAT IS, LOOKING REALISTICALLY AT THE RIGHT KINDS OF CUTS, AND MOST ECONOMISTS WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CUTS SHOULD BE LONG-RANGE. THEY TELL YOU IT MAKES NO SENSE TO TALK ABOUT CUTS OVERNIGHT. IN FACT IT'S UNREALISTIC IF A FAMILY SITS AT THE KITCHEN TABLE TRYING TO BALANCE THEIR BOOKS, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS TO HAVE A TOTAL CHANGE. THEY GOT TO OVER A MEASURED PERIOD OF TIME, MAYBE SOMEONE GETS ANOTHER JOB, MAYBE SOMEONE FINDS AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF WAGES AND THEN THEY OVER TIME CUT THEIR BUDGET AND BEGIN TO PAY BILLS. AMERICA HAS TO PAY ITS BILLS RIGHT NOW BUT OVER THE TIME FRAME, WE NEED TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE. SO LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU A FRIEND OF OURS, COLLEAGUE, CONGRESSMAN BISHOP, HAS SHARED THIS VERY POTENT POSTER THAT IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO ALLOW THOSE TAX CUTS FOR A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THIS IS NOT A CLASS WARFARE SITUATION. I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY THEIR WEALTH, CREATE WEALTH, TO CREATE JOBS. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CALL EQUAL SACRIFICE. ACCEPTING THE BURDEN OF BEING AN AMERICAN. RISING TO THE CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE CALLED UPON TO SERVE. NO ONE CAN COMPARE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN RIGHT NOW AS WE STAND HERE THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. NO ONE CAN COMPARE TO FAMILY WHORS WELCOME -- WHO WELCOME KOCHES, FLAG-DRAPED COFFINS HOME BECAUSE THEIR SOLDIERS DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD. WE CAN'T COMPARE TO THAT. PUT RIGHT NOW, AMERICA NEEDS ALL OF US AND SHE NEEDS US TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. SO THERE ARE WEALTHY PERSONS LIKE WARREN BUFFETT AND BILL GATES WHO FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME INDICATED THE TAX CUTS NEED TO EXPIRE. HERE'S THE REVENUE RIGHT HERE. 30,000 HOUSEHOLD THAT REPORT INCOMES OF MORE THAN $1 MILLION. ONE DAY OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS FOR MILLIONAIRES EXPIRING GIVES US $120 MILLION. THAT MAY PROVIDE THE RESOURCES FOR OUR NATIONAL PARKS AND WILDLIFE, IT MAY AS WELL SHORE UP HOSPITALS THAT REALLY DEPEND UPON MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT. IT MIGHT HELP IN A MILITARY FAMILY'S PAY INCREASE. THEN OF COURSE IF YOU TAKE ONE WEEK OF ALLOWING THOSE TAX CUTSES TO EXPIRE HERE'S REVENUE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. HERE YOU GET $857 MILLION. THAT IS ONE WEEK. JUST A REMINDER IN TERMS OF MONEYS THAT WERE SPENT, WE CREATED THREE MILLION JOBS AND I'LL GET TO THAT, I THINK I'M GOING TO HOLD THAT POINT BECAUSE I WANT TO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE, $857 MILLION COMES IN FOR ONE WEEK. THAT'S PELL GRANTS FOR OUR STUDENTS, THAT'S ALLOWING RESEARCH AT THE N.I.H. FOR CANCER, CURES FOR CANCER AND AS WELL FOR HEART DISEASE, STROKE, NEUROLOGICAL DISEASE, PAYMENTS FOR THOSE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND THEN IF YOU JUST GO ONE MONTH OF THE EXPIRATION OF THE BUSH CUTS YOU'LL HAVE $3.43 BILLION. NOW, IN THE REINVESTMENT AND RECOVERY, THE PRESIDENT, BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS HE FACED WHICH WAS NONE OF THE CLINTON SURPLUS WAS LEFT, IT WAS ALL GONE BECAUSE OF TWO UNPAID WARS, HE HAD TO COME IN AND SAVE US AND SO ABOUT $800 BILLION IN THE RECOVERY ACT, PUT THREE MILLION JOBS ON THE TABLE. IT CREATED THREE MILLION JOBS. JUST IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THOSE TAX CUTS EXPIRED, WE GOT $3.43 BILLION AND WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE, MULTIPLY THAT, WHICH I THINK GOES IN ABOUT SIX TIMES, MATH ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE, LITTLE LESS THAN THAT, FOUR TIMES, IT WOULD CREATE FOUR TIMES THREE MILLION. 12 MILLION JOBS. REAL QUICK MATH HERE. SO THE QUESTION IS, THE QUESTION IS AND LET ME REVERSE THAT MATH BECAUSE I SEE BOBBY SCOTT LOOKING UP, IT'S ONLY THREE. SO I WON'T DO ANY MATH ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT IT WILL CREATE JOBS BECAUSE WE HAD $800 BILLION, I WAS READING THAT ASS $343 BILLION. BUT -- THAT AS $343 BILLION. IF WE DO ONE YEAR OF BUSH CUTS IT WILL BE $41 BILLION. AND SO WE CAN TAKE A PORTION OF THE $800 BILLION AND WE CAN SEE THE JOBS THAT WERE CREATED BY $3 BILLION AND $41 BILLION. WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU, MY FRIENDS, THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE MADE BY THE SPEAKER DOESN'T GIVE US THAT FLEXIBILITY. IT TRULY UNDERMINES THE SAFETY NETWORK OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY BUT IT ALSO PUTS IN SOME ELEMENTS THAT CLEARLY UNDERMINE THE RUNNING OF THIS COUNTRY. BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NOT REALISTIC FOR THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT -- FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKES CARE OF 50 STATES, NOT JUST ONE. AND OUR FRIENDS WILL TELL US THAT THESE STATES HAVE BALANCED BUDGETS, IT'S OK WHEN YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF ONE HOUSEHOLD BUT IF YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF 300 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS-PLUS, WHEN THAT PARTICULAR STATE THAT NEEDS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LIKE MISSOURI DURING THE HORRIBLE TORNADOS OR ALABAMA OR THE FLOODS OR ANY OTHER MANMADE OR NATURAL DISASTER, THEY WANT US TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM. BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL NOT ALLOW THAT. AND THEN THE CAPS TO CONTROL SPENDING, DOESN'T ALLOW THE REASON DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PRIORITIES WHEN PRIORITIES ARE NECESSARY. LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT WHAT OUR SPEAKER WILL BE ANNOUNCING TONIGHT TO CALM THE MARKETS IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A -- LET ME JUST SAY THIS TO MY COLLEAGUES. IF YOU'RE HAVING FUN NOW JUST THINK ABOUT FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW OR A LITTLE LONGER, SIX MONTHS WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. ANOTHER DEBATE ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING AND I'LL REMIND YOU, I SAID WE RAISED IT 100 TIMES BEFORE, MOST AMERICANS NEVER HEARD OF IT, BECAUSE WE WORK WITH OUR PRESIDENT, SUCH AS PRESIDENT REAGAN WHO IN 1983 WROTE HIS OWN REPUBLICAN MAJORITY LEADER, SENATOR BAKER, AND SAID, YOU CANNOT NOT PASS THE DEBT CEILING, IT IS INCALCULABLE TO THINK OF AMERICA DEFOUGHTLE -- DEFAULTING ON HER BILLS. SO HERE WE GO WITH A PROPOSAL THAT RECALLS US TO HAVE TO VOTE TWICE IN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS A YOUNG COUPLE TRYING TO BUY A HOUSE SEES A SURGE IN THEIR INTEREST RATES. IT MEANS THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A CREDIT CARD IT MAY BE DEFUNCT ONLY BECAUSE YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO PATE SURGING INTEREST RATES. FEES FOR YOU TO BUY A HOUSE, MIGHT SKY -- FOR TO YOU BUY A HOUSE MIGHT SKYROCKET. HOUSING COSTS MIGHT GO UP. HOUSES MIGHT STOP BEING BUILT. AND SO I WOULD SIMPLY ASK MY COLLEAGUES TODAY, LET'S BE AMERICANS. LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER. JUST ALLOW THESE TAX CUTS TO EXPIRE AND ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND AGAIN $3.43 BILLION AND $41 BILLION MAKES THE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF AMERICANS SO I THANK THE GENTLELADY FROM THE VIRGE ISLANDS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS AND TO HOPEFULLY JUST DISPEL SOME MYTHS BUT ALSO SOME FEARS. IT IS A $14.3 TRILLION, IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT ECONOMISTS WILL TELL YOU THAT AMERICA IS NOT BROKE, IT'S NOT BROKEN EITHER, IT IS AT STAGE WHEN WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO RAISE THIS DEBT CEILING AND GO BACK INTO REGULAR ORDER AND WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE BRING FORWARD IN THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS, WE CAN HASSLE THAT OUT ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE, BUT WE WILL ALLOW AMERICA TO PAY HER BILLS AND SOLDIERS NOW ON THE BATTLEFIELD WILL NOT HAVE FEARS THAT GRANDPARENTS ARE NOT GETTING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY OR WORRYING ABOUT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS GETTING COMPENSATION THAT THEY ARE TRULY DUE BECAUSE OF THE SACRIFICES THEIR LOVED ONES ARE MAKE ON BEHALF OF THIS NATION. I THANK THE GENTLELADY, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH US AND I DO BELIEVE THAT AMERICA'S GOING TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:52:41 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU. AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE CHART SO THAT YOU CAN SEE VERY…

    THANK YOU. AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE CHART SO THAT YOU CAN SEE VERY CLEARLY HOW MUCH MONEY IS LOST FROM JUST NOT TAKING THE TAX CUTS BACK TO THE CLINTON TAX RATES. AND YOU CAN IMAGINE -- I'M NOT DOING ANY MATH ON THE FLOOR EITHER, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LOST IN THE TIME THAT THOSE TAX CUTS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE AND WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE THROUGH NEXT YEAR. AND THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL THAT IS BEING BROUGHT TO US NOW, I DON'T SEE ANY INVESTMENTS FOR THE FUTURE. NO INVESTMENT IN EDUCATION, NO INVESTMENT IN RELIEVING OURSELVES OF OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN FUEL OR CONTINUING TO INVEST IN HEALTH CARE OR CREATING JOBS. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST CUT, CUT, CUT AND THE ECONOMISTS ALSO TELL US THAT THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE CUTTING SPENDING. BUT WE HAVE OUR BUDGET GURU HERE WITH US THIS EVENING, THE PERSON WHO LEADS US EVERY YEAR IN PUTTING TOGETHER A FANTASTIC CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS BUDGET, ONE THAT NOT ONLY INVESTS IN THE FUTURE AND IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT BUT ALSO HAS EVERY YEAR FOUND A WAY THAT WHILE INVESTING TO ALSO REDUCE THE DEFICIT AND SO I'M PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO YIELD SUCH TIME AS HE MIGHT CONSUME TO CONGRESSMAN BOBBY SCOTT.

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  • 07:54:11 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    THANK YOU AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING AND I THANK OUR…

    THANK YOU AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING AND I THANK OUR COLLEAGUE FROM TEXAS FOR HER REMARKS. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW BAD THE BUDGET SITUATION IS NOW, I THINK IT MAKES A LITTLE SENSE TO EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE. FIRST IN THE EARLY 1990'S THE BUDGET HAD GONE TOTALLY OUT OF WHACK. AND THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH GOT TOGETHER WITH THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE OF THE UNFORTUNATELY HE TO BREAK HIS PLEDGE -- SENATE. UNFORTUNATELY HE TO BREAK HIS PLEDGE ON, READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES, BUT THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT AND DID A LITTLE BIT TO FIX THE BUDGET. THEN IN 1993, AFTER PRESIDENT CLINTON CAME IN, WE DID SOME SERIOUS WORK ABOUT THE BUDGET. WE RAISED SOME TAXES AND CUT SOME SPENDING AND GOT THE BUDGET UNDER CONTROL IN THE 1993 BUDGET. WHEN YOU VOTE ON BUDGETS, THEY TALK BUDGETS. PRESIDENT BUSH I THINK TO A LARGE EXTENT CAN CREDIT HIS DECISION TO ADDRESS THE BUDGET WITH NEW TAXES AS PART OF THE REASON FOR HIS DEFEAT AND WHEN THE DEMOCRATS WITHOUT SING ALE REPUBLICAN VOTE IN THE HOUSE -- SING -- WITHOUT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE IN THE HOUSE AND WITHOUT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE IN THE SENATE PASSED THE 1993 BUDGET, 50 DEMOCRATS LOST THEIR SEATS. THOSE WERE TOUGH VOTES. YOU LOSE YOUR SEATS WHEN YOU HAVE VERY SERIOUS DEFICIT REDUCTION. BUT AS A RESULT THAT HAVE 1993 BUDGET WE NOT ONLY BALANCED THE BUDGET AND JUST -- IN JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS, BUT WE WENT INTO SIGNIFICANT SURPLUS, CREATED RECORD NUMBER OF JOBS, THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE ALMOST TRIPLED. AND IN 1996 AFTER A FEW YEARS OF THIS BUDGET -- EXCUSE ME, IN 1995 WHEN THE REPUBLICANS GOT IN CONTROL BY DEMAGOGUING THE VOTES THAT WE CAST, FIXING THE BUDGET, THEY CAME IN AND TRIED TO UNDERMINE EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE BUDGET. PRESIDENT CLINTON LET THE GOVERNMENT GET SHUT DOWN RATHER THAN SIGN THOSE IRRESPONSIBLE BUDGETS THAT THE REPUBLICANS PASSED. LET THE GOVERNMENT GET SHUT DOWN AND AS A RESULT OF HIS TENACITY AND HOLING ONTO HIS ORIGINAL PLAN THE BUDGET WAS BALANCED IN A FEW SHORT YEARS. NOW, THERE ARE SOME IN CONGRESS THAT TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORIC BALANCED BUDGET AGREEMENT IN THE MID 1990'S. WELL, THE BUDGET -- IF THEY HADN'T COME TO SUCH AN AGREEMENT, THE BALANCE WOULD HAVE BUDGETED ITSELF. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THE BUDGET HAD ALREADY GONE INTO SURPLUS. THEY HADN'T FINISHED COUNTING THE MONEY. TURN US OUT THERE WAS FROM A $290 BILLION DEFICIT WE GOT DOWN TO $10 BILLION AND THE AGREEMENT FLOWED DOWN THE PROGRESS A LITTLE BIT BUT WE STILL WENT INTO SURPLUS. IN 2001 CHAIRMAN GREENSPAN WAS ANSWERING QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE PAY OFF THE ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC? WHAT'S GOING GO TO HAPPEN TO INTEREST RATES, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE BOND MARKET WHEN THERE ARE NO GOVERNMENT BONLEDS, HOW DO YOU CALCULATE INVESTMENT STRATEGY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE GOVERNMENT BONDS SETTING THE NO-RISK LIMIT, HOW DO YOU CALCULATE INVESTMENT STRATEGIES IF THERE ARE NO GOVERNMENT BONDS BECAUSE YOU'VE PAID THEM OFF OFF? BY 2008 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD OWE NO MONEY TO CHINA, JAPAN, SAUDI ARABIA, WE WOULD HAVE PAID OFF OUR ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT. SO IF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS HARD, WE HAVE DONE IT. 2001, BY AUGUST OF 2001 AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF TAX CUTS WE HAD ALREADY GONE BROKE. INSTEAD OF THE HUGE SURPLUS, THE SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOCK BOX, PUT THAT AWAY FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE SURPLUS, PUT THAT IN THE LOCK BOX FOR MEDICARE, WE HAD A SURPLUS OVER THAT. BY AUGUST OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S FIRST YEAR WE HAD GONE THROUGH ALL THE SURPLUS AND WE WERE INTO SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND BY AUGUST, YOU CANNOT BLAME SEPTEMBER 11 FOR THE FACT THAT WE HAD ALREADY GONE BROKE A MONTH BEFORE. AND SO AFTER TWO TAX CUTS NOT PAID FOR, AFTER PRESCRIPTION DRUG BENEFITS NOT PAID FOR, COUPLE OF WARS NOT PAID FOR WE'RE IN THE DITCH. NOW, DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION WE HAD PAY-GO. YOU WANTED TO SPEND SOME MORE MONEY, YOU HAD TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT. IF YOU WANTED TO CUT TAXES, YOU HAD TO CUT SOME PROGRAMS, YOU HAD TO PAY FOR IT. EVERYTHING YOU DID YOU HAD TO PAY FOR. AS SOON AS PRESIDENT BUSH CAME IN THEY GOT AWAY WITH -- DID AWAY WITH PAY-GO AND PUT US IN THE DITCH. NOW WE'RE SO FAR IN THE DITCH THAT MOST EXPERTS SUGGEST THAT WE NEED ABOUT $4 TRILLION IN DEFICIT REDUCTION TO GET BACK TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. ABOUT $4 TRILLION. THE SIMPSON-BOWLES COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH ONE PLAN WITH A LOT OF THIS AND A LITTLE OF THAT, $4 TRILLION. BUT THERE'S ONE INTERESTING THING THAT YOU COULD DO TO COME UP WITH ALMOST $4 TRILLION, LET ALL THE BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE. DONE. I MEAN, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS BUDGET THIS YEAR, WE STARTED OFF WITH THAT PREMISE. LET THEM ALL EXPIRE. BUT WE WANTED TO EXTEND SOME. SO WE PAID FOR THEM. WE CUT THE OIL LOOPHOLES AND EXTENDED SOME, WE CUT SOME OTHER LOOPHOLES AND EXTENDED SOME AND ADDED THIS TAX AND CUT THIS AND WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD EXTEND A LOT OF THE TAX CUTS BECAUSE WE PAID FOR THEM. BUT WE STILL HAD THE $4 TRILLION IN DEFICIT REDUCTION. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT DEFICIT REDUCTION LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT REVENUE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION EARLIER THIS YEAR. WHERE THEY STARTED OUT $66 BILLION, WHICH ANNUALIZED IS ABOUT $100 BILLION AND 10 YEARS THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $1 TRILLION. AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS IN THAT FIRST $1 TRILLION THAT THEY WANTED TO CUT IT WAS SO BAD THEY COULDN'T GET IT PASSED, THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO COMPROMISE, BUT WE HAD CUTS TO THE SAFETY NETS LIKE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, CUTS IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY FOR LOW INCOME SENIORS, CUTS IN COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCIES AND WE HAD CUTS IN INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE, HEAD START, PELL GRANTS GOT CUT, SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND NASA ALL GOT CUT. . F.B.I. AGENTS GOT CUT. WE ARE SITTING UP IN JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DEALING WITH THE PROBLEMS WE'VE GOT AND WE DON'T NEED MORE CRIMINAL LAWS BUT F.B.I. AGENTS TO INVESTIGATE THE CASES. F.B.I. AGENTS WERE CUT, 4,000 FEWER. CLEAN WATER GRANTS, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, ALL CUT. AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS. THEY ARE WORKING SO HARD THAT THEY ARE FALLING ASLEEP ON THE JOB, THEY WERE CUT. AND THE NEXT ROURNED OF CUTS WOULD BE MEDICARE -- AND THE NEXT ROUND OF CUTS WOULD BE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. THEY COULD NOT GET THAT PASSED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, BY THE TIME THEY FINISHED -- AND NOW THEY ARE SUGGESTING WE NEED TO CUT NOT $1 TRILLION, BRU $2 TRILLION OR $3 TRILLION. IF COULDN'T GET THE FIRST TRILLION PASSED, CLEAN WATER, FOOD INSPECTORS, SO FEW FOOD INSPECTORS IN THAT BUDGET SOME MEAT PACKING PLANTS WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE BECAUSE THEY WERE OBLIGATED TO HAVE A FEDERAL MEAT INSPECTOR ON SITE. THEY HAD SO FEW MEAT INSPECTOR THAT THEY ANTICIPATED MANY OF THE COMPANIES WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN OR AT LEAST CLOSE TEMPORARILY BECAUSE THERE WERE SO FEW. NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO $3 TRILLION OF CUTS. THEY CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF THE DEBT CEILING. THE DEBT CEILING IS SOMETHING THAT RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY. AND SO YOU RAISE THE DEBT CEILING NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY. ALMOST ONCE A YEAR OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD TO INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS HAVE HAD TO VOTE FOR THE DEBT CEILING AND THE MAJORITY PARTY HAS TO CAST THE TOUGH VOTES AND THE MINORITY PARTY GRANDSTANDS A LITTLE BIT BUT NO QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE DEBT CEILING IS GOING TO BE INCREASED. YOU CAN MAKE A SPEECH ABOUT IT. THEY ARE SAYING MAYBE WE WON'T INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DEFAULTED. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE INVESTMENTS, TO THE INTEREST RATES. WE HAD A TEMPORARY TECHNICAL GLITCH A FEW YEARS AGO, CHECKS GOING OUT A COUPLE DAYS LATE, BECAUSE OF THAT GLITCH, WE PAID HALF A PERCENT HIGHER INTEREST RATE FOR MANY YEARS. 1% INTEREST RATE ON THE NATIONAL DEBT NOW IS IN THE RANGE OF $100 BILLION. SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DEFAULTED ON THE DEBT AND PEOPLE CHARGED MORE INTEREST, THAT'S IN THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYTHING. AND WHO WOULD WANT TO FIND OUT? OUGHT TO GO AHEAD AND INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING AND NOT USE IT AS A THREAT THAT UNLESS YOU DO THIS, WE'LL BLOW UP THE ECONOMY. I WOULD HOPE OUR LEADERSHIP WOULD NOT CAPITULATE TO THOSE KINDS OF THREATS. IN OCTOBER THEY COULD SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT BY NOT PASSING THE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS. IN A YEAR OR SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THE DEBT CEILING AGAIN. IF YOU CAPITULATE TO THESE CHILDISH THREATS, THERE WILL BE NO END TO IT AND YOU WILL INVITE THEM BACK. WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, THEY ARE SLOW-WALKING US THROUGH SOME CUTS THAT NEVER COULD HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE NORMAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. LAST YEAR IN DECEMBER, WE EXTENDED THE BUSH TAX CUTS. THAT COST $400 BILLION A YEAR. NOW WE'RE BROKE AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ABOUT $400 BILLION A YEAR, AS IF WE HAD FORGOTTEN WHAT WE DID LAST DECEMBER. NOW WHEN WE EXTENDED THOSE TAX CUTS, THERE IS NO MENTION OF HOW IT WOULD BE PAID FOR. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WAS, WHETHER WE WERE GO TO GO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE IN ORDER TO AFFORD THE TAX CUTS THAT WERE EXTENDED IN DECEMBER. NOW THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME CUTS THAT THEY COULDN'T OTHERWISE GET. AND THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IS ABOUT CHOICES. IF YOU WANT A PROGRAM, YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT. NOT WILLING TO PAY THE TAXES, CAN'T HAVE YOUR PROGRAM. LAST YEAR, WE PASSED HEALTH CARE PROGRAM. COST $1 TRILLION. WE RAISED MORE THAN $1 TRILLION IN TAXES. IF WE DIDN'T RAISE THE TAXES, WE COULDN'T HAVE THE PROGRAM. WE AREN'T MAKING AS WE GO LONG NOW BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS WILL BE NOT CUTS, BUT CAPS. NO PROGRAM WILL BE CUT WHEN WE SEE ANY DEAL, $2 TRILLION DEAL, NOT A SINGLE PROGRAM WILL BE CUT. THERE WILL BE JUST CAPS. THREE MONTHS NOW WHEN YOU TRY TO APPROPRIATE UNDER THOSE CAPS, YOU CAN'T AFFORD ANY FOOD INSPECTOR OR F.B.I. AGENTS BECAUSE THE CAPS ARE SO LOW. AND IF YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER, IF YOU HAD MADE YOUR CHOICES AND HAD KNOWN YOU WERE GOING TO CUT HEAD START AND F.B.I. AGENTS AND CLEAN WATER GRANTS, WHEN YOU CUT TAXES, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CUT THE TAXES. AND I'LL --

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  • 08:07:04 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    YOU SAID PLAYING POLITICS, IS THAT THE SAME AS THE SCHOOL YARD GAME AS…

    YOU SAID PLAYING POLITICS, IS THAT THE SAME AS THE SCHOOL YARD GAME AS PLAYING CHICKEN AND IN THE COURSE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IS THERE ANY LIGHT FOR CREATING JOBS IN THIS APPROACH THAT IS BEING TAKEN WHERE YOU HAVE NO REVENUE AND YOU HAVE CUTS WITH NO PLAN? I SEE NO OPPORTUNITY FOR CREATING JOBS?

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  • 08:07:29 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO INCREASE…

    MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO INCREASE TAXES IN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, BECAUSE YOU WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ECONOMY. THAT'S TRUE. BUT IF YOU HAVE SPENDING CUTS, THE EFFECT ON THE ECONOMY IS NOT ONLY LARGER, BUT MORE DIRECT AND MORE IMMEDIATE. INCREASES IN TAXES DON'T HIT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. AS SOON AS YOU CUT SPENDING, SOMEBODY'S GETTING FIRED AND JOBS GET LOST IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU HAVE SPENDING CUTS. FOR THE SAME REASON THAT THEY SAY YOU CAN'T INCREASE TAXES DURING AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, A STRONGER ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SPENDING CUTS. THE ESTIMATES ON SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN PLANS ARE THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS WOULD BE LOST IF THOSE PLANS HAD BEEN ENACTED. ONE OF THE REAL TRAGEDIES ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION IS SOMETIMES TALKING ABOUT RHETORIC AND POLITICS, SOME PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SO-CALLED BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT AS A CONDITION OF MOVING FORWARD. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT WE'LL CONSIDER CALLS THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT -- IS A BILL THAT HAS A MISLEADING TITLE. IT SAYS PROPOSING A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. GUESS WHAT THAT LEGISLATION DOES NOT REQUIRE?

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  • 08:09:03 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    WOULD YOU YIELD? DOES IT REQUIRE A BALANCED BUDGET?

  • 08:09:08 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    NOT. IT REQUIRES A 3/5'S VOTE TO PASS A BUDGET THAT IS NOT IMBALANCE.…

    NOT. IT REQUIRES A 3/5'S VOTE TO PASS A BUDGET THAT IS NOT IMBALANCE. EVERY BUDGET WE CONSIDERED WAS NOT IMBALANCE THIS YEAR. THE RYAN PLAN WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A 3/5'S VOTE. THE REPUBLICAN STUDY COMMITTEE PLAN WOULD CUT DISCRETIONARY SPENDING 50% TO 70%, WOULD REQUIRE A 3/5'S VOTE. WHEN WE CAST THOSE VOTES, FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH LOST. DEMOCRATS LOST IN 1993 TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. I WILL GUARANTEE THERE WILL BE REPUBLICANS LOSING THEIR SEATS VOTING FOR THE RYAN PLAN BECAUSE IT WILL BE A REPEAL OF MEDICARE AND WILL LOSE THEIR SEATS. THEY HAVE LOST ONE SEAT IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. WHEN YOU VOTE ON DEFICIT REDUCTION, PEOPLE LOSE THEIR SEATS. IF YOU ARE A CHIEF SPONSOR OF A SEVERE REDUCTION PLAN, IT WILL BE HARDER TO PASS IF YOU MOVE IT UP TO 3/5'S. ONCE YOU NEED 3/5'S, THERE IS NO LIMIT TO HOW IRRESPONSIBLE YOU CAN GET. THE TAX CUT EXTENSIONS, $400 BILLION IN DECEMBER, THAT GOT 3/5'S. MORE TAX CUTS AND MORE ADDITIONAL SPENDING TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL, ALL YOU NEED IS 3/5'S.

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  • 08:10:55 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THE CAPS WOULD BE IN PLACE.

  • 08:11:01 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    ANOTHER PROVISION. THE FULL PROVISION -- MRS.

  • 08:11:04 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    BUT YOU COULDN'T RAISE ANY REVENUE.

  • 08:11:10 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    3/ 5'S TO PASS THE BUDGET. 2 2/3 TO RAISE TAXES. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO…

    3/ 5'S TO PASS THE BUDGET. 2 2/3 TO RAISE TAXES. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, HAVING A 2/3 VOTE TO RAISE TAXES WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE IT HARDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. THIS IS CALLED A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. FIRST TWO PROVISIONS MAKE IT HARDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. 2/3 TO PASS THE BUDGET -- IF IT'S MORE THAN 18% OF G.D.P. WE HAVEN'T BEEN THAT LOW SINCE WE PASSED MEDICARE. THAT WILL PUT PRESSURE ON THE MEDICARE PROGRAM. IF YOU PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER WITH THE PRESSURE ON MEDICARE, WE KNOW WE CAN CUT THE BENEFITS WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY. 2/3 IN THE HOUSE AND 2/3 IN THE SENATE. THERE IS ANOTHER LITTLE INSULTING PROVISION AT THE END, 3/5'S VOTE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. AND THIS YEAR, IT HAS BEEN ENOUGH OF A SPECTACLE AND WANT IT TO BE AN EVERY DAY OCCURANCE. YOU HAVE THIS BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD PUT PRESSURE ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE BY ALLOWING THOSE PROGRAMS TO BE CUT WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY. BUT TO SAVE THEM WITH NEW REVENUE LIKE INCREASING THE AMOUNT, RIGHT NOW IN SOCIAL SECURITY, A LITTLE OVER $100,000, NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY TAX, IF WE EXTEND THAT LIKE MEDICARE, ALL OF YOUR INCOME, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH SOLVE THE PROBLEM, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT WITH A 2/3 VOTE. YOU COULDN'T SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY. BUT TO CUT THE BENEFITS, SIMPLE MAJORITY. AND THEY WANT TO INFLICT THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THERE TO PRESERVE THEIR OIL COMPANY-MILLIONAIRE LOOPHOLES AND JEOPARDIZE US AND PUT IN A TRAGEDY. MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY HEAR THE TITLE, THEY START TO DEBATE WHETHER IT IS A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA TO BALANCE THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR. NOW, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS SERVE ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND WE HEARD THE -- ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ARIZONA TALK ABOUT THE ARIZONA BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT AND HOW THAT WORKS ON THE STATE LEVEL. AND THEN WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT HOW DID ARIZONA BALANCE THE BUDGET. THEY HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF STIMULUS MONEY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH. ARIZONA STATE GOVERNMENT HAS SOLD, SOLD THEIR STATE CAPITOL AND SOLD THEIR SUPREME COURT BUILDING AND LEASED IT BACK AND GOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE KITTY THAT HELPED THEM. BY SELLING THE STATE CAPITOL AND THE SUPREME COURT. THAT'S WHAT THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT DOES FOR YOU, I GUESS. WE CAN'T GET LOST IN THE RHETORIC ABOUT THE MISLEADING TITLES OF LEGISLATION AND ACTUALLY READ PAST THE TITLE IN THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:14:47 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    HAPPENS SO OFTEN WITH SO MANY OF THESE BILLS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING US…

    HAPPENS SO OFTEN WITH SO MANY OF THESE BILLS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING US THROUGH THE HISTORY OF WHERE WER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RHETORIC THAT TRIES TO HIDE HOW WE GOT HERE, THE FACT THAT HARD VOTES WERE TAKEN IN 1993. PRESIDENT CLINTON DID LEAVE A LARGE SURPLUS AND BY THE END OF PRESIDENT BUSH'S TERM, WE WERE IN A DEEP DEFICIT AND THEN IN A RECESSION, A RECESSION THAT WAS NOT CREATED BY THIS PRESIDENT, BUT INHERENTED BY THIS PRESIDENT. WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT YES, PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS INCREASED THE DEFICIT, WHAT WOULD HE DO, ALLOW US TO FALL DEEPER INTO A RECESSION? . MR.

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  • 08:15:41 PM

    MR. SCOTT

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    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

  • 08:15:55 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    AND LEGISLATION IS ABOUT CHOICES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT A HEAD…

    AND LEGISLATION IS ABOUT CHOICES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT A HEAD START PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. IF YOU WANT CLEAN WATER GRANTS YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. AND WE NEED TO BE MAKING THESE CHOICES NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF THREATS ABOUT BLOWING UP THE ECONOMY, BUT MAKE THE RATIONAL CHOICES ABOUT WHAT KIND OF VISION AND WHAT KIND OF FUTURE WE THINK WE WANT. SOME OF US THINK THAT EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT, YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION. SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT CLEAN WATER GRANTS ARE IMPORTANT, SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, FOOD INSPECTORS, F.B.I. AGENTS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS, A LOT OF THINGS WE LIKE IN GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE PAY FOR THEM. -- YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.

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  • 08:16:42 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I'M GOING TO YIELD -- MS. JACKSON

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: IF YOU'LL YIELD ONE QUICK MOMENT TO ADD TO WHAT HE SAID. WE'RE ALSO…

    LEE: IF YOU'LL YIELD ONE QUICK MOMENT TO ADD TO WHAT HE SAID. WE'RE ALSO IN A CLIMATE OF FIGHTING AGAINST TERRORISM. AND IN ORDER TO SECURE THE HOMELAND YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT HOW YOU INVEST AND SO I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, I THINK IF YOU INVEST MONEY, YOU GET INNOVATION, YOU GET JOBS AND NONE OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID BY SPEAKER BOEHNER HAS ANYTHING ABOUT INNOVATION, JOBS AND HAS NO SEEMINGLY UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURING THE HOMELAND. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLELADY.

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  • 08:17:17 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT AGAIN. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO THE…

    THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT AGAIN. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS, CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA LEE FROM OAKLAND. ALSO CHAIR OF THE OUT OF POVERTY CAUCUS. A LOT OF TIMES, WELL, EVEN UP TO THIS WEEKEND WE'VE HEARD THAT NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE POOR. BUT I THANK YOU FOR LIDE LEADINGING -- FOR LEADING, FOR STARTING THE OUT OF POVERTY CAUCUS, FOR LEADING US TO AN AGENDA THAT CONTINUES EVEN TODAY OF PATHWAYS OUT OF POVERTY AND FOR BRINGING US TO THE FLOOR EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE REPUBLICAN POLICIES, THE BILLS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THE WAY THEY'RE HOLDING THE DEBT CEILING HOSTAGE IS HURTING THE POOR IN OUR COUNTRY. I'D LIKE TO YIELD SUCH TIME AS YOU MIGHT CONSUME.

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  • 08:18:04 PM

    MS. LEE

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME THANK CONGRESSWOMAN CHRISTENSEN FOR LEADING…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME THANK CONGRESSWOMAN CHRISTENSEN FOR LEADING THIS SPECIAL ORDER TONIGHT. BUT ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON BEHALF OF REALLY MY CONSTITUENTS AND ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT YOURSELF AS FIRST VICE CHAIR OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS AND CHAIRMAN CLEVE WHO ARE CHAIRS THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS CONTINUES TO BE THE CONSCIENCE OF THE CONGRESS AND TO SPEAK OUT AND SOUND THE ALARM ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF POSSIBLE BAD POLITICAL AND POLICY DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING. IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THESE ISSUES BE SWEPT FROM UNDER THE RUG. AND DISCUSSED IN AN OPEN FORUM. AND THE DEBATE AND THE DISCUSSION WITH CONGRESSMAN BOBBY SCOTT AND CONGRESSWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON LEE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS DISCUSSION WILL UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND THE BACKGROUND AND THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS ABOUT THIS BUDGET THAT REALLY -- AND THIS DEFICIT REDUCTION PLAN THAT THE SPEAKER'S BRINGING FORWARD WHICH REALLY DOES ONCE AGAIN PUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS PAWNS I THINK IN A GAME THAT THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PLAYING. PEOPLE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER, THEY'RE TIRED OF HAVING THEIR FUTURES THREAT UNDERSTAND BY REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS PLAYING GAMES THAT PUT THE ENTIRE NATION AND OUR ECONOMY AT RISK. AND THE RYAN BUDGET AND NOW THIS DEBT CEILING PLAN PUT FORTH BY THE REPUBLICANS, I TELL YOU WHAT COMES TO MIND IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND WHEN YOU LISTEN TO WHAT'S IN IT, IT'S A YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN KIND OF PLAN. IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WEALTHY AND THOSE WHO ARE BEHOLDEN TO SPECIAL INTERESTS AND HEDGE FUND BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES AND ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE TAX CUTS, THEY'LL BE FINE. BUT FOR THOSE, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WHO ARE POOR OR COULD POSSIBLY FALL FROM MIDDLE INCOME INTO THE RANKS OF THE POOR THIS DEBT CEILING PLAN PUT FORTH BY THE REPUBLICANS IS MORALLY WRONG AND IT'S FISCALLY UNSOUND. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN ONCE AGAIN AND SO I'M GLAD WE'RE HERE TONIGHT DISCUSSING THIS. THE REPUBLICAN DEFAULT ON OUR DEBT, THIS WOULD DEVASTATE THE RETIREMENT SAVINGS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICAN SENIORS, JUST DEVASTATE. AND WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, THESE GOVERNMENT SAFETY NET PROGRAMS HAVE PROVIDED FOR MILLIONS OF OUR SENIORS TO LIVE A DECENT LIFE IN THEIR GOLDEN YEARS. AND TO NOT FALL INTO THE RANKS OF POVERTY AND NOW ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. IT MAKES NO SENSE. A REPUBLICAN DEFAULT ON OUR DEBT S WOULD WEAKEN OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY AND WEAKEN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND WE HEARD EARLIER THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS COULD BE LOST, EVEN MORE JOBS WOULD BE LOST. WE SHOULD BE ABOUT CREATING JOBS, NOT PUTTING FORTH MEASURES THAT WOULD TAKE US FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD INTO A RECESSION AND FOR SOME A DEPRESSION. IN FACT, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. AMERICA MUST PLAY OUR -- PAY OUR BILLS ON TIME AND WE MUST DO THIS IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT DEVASTATE THE SAFETY NET OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AND OUR CHILDRENS A FUTURE. EITHER YOU'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WANT TO SAFEGUARD VITAL HUMAN NEEDS PROGRAMS LIKE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, SOCIAL SECURITY, CRITICAL FOOD BENEFITS FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, OR YOU'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE BILLIONAIRES, THE BANKERS, FINANCIAL SERVICES INDUSTRY, SUBSIDIES FOR MASSIVE OIL COMPANY PROFITS, I MEAN, YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER IN THIS DEBATE. THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS CONTINUES TO BE ON THE SIDE OF OUR NATION'S MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WHO IN THESE VERY, VERY HARD ECONOMIC TIMES DEPEND ON THESE VITAL SAFETY NET PROGRAMS FOR THEIR SURVIVAL DAY IN AND DAY OUT. MEANWHILE WE KEEP HEARING CLAIMS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE THAT ONLY MISDIRECT ATTENTION. AMERICA REALLY IS NOT BROKE. WE'RE THE RICHEST AND STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND WE STILL HAVE THE BEST IDEAS, THE BEST WORKERS, THE BEST SCHOOLS AND THE LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. BUT WE WON'T BE FOR LONG IF THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THEIR WAY. YOU KNOW, YOU OFTEN WONDER, FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT DEFAULT WILL NOT WREAK HAVOC ON THE COUNTRY, THERE'S SOME WHO, YOU KNOW, I THINK COULD CARE LESS IF WE WENT INTO A DEFAULT BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER A LOT OF MEMBERS HERE AND THAT TO ME IS TRAGIC. SOME TELL US THAT THE FUTURE IS BLEAK AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT AFFORD TO INVEST IN A PROSPEROUS AND GROWING AMERICA BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE. IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE VOTE BY ALL OF US TO ALLOW THE UNITED STATES TREASURY TO FUND ALL OF ITS PROGRAMS AND OBLIGATIONS AND DEBTS OF THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE LAW. REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE HAVE ALREADY VOTED TO SUPPORT AND PASS A $9 TRILLION INCREASE IN THE NATIONAL DEBT AND NOW AGAIN INSTEAD OF WORKING TO CREATE JOBS AND HELP OUR NATION RISE OUT OF THIS GREAT RECESSION AND DEPRESSION FOR MANY, THE REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY PLAYING HIGH STAKES GAME OF CHICKEN WITH THE SAFETY NET AND WITH THE SECURITY OF EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN SO THAT THEY CAN PROTECT THE MASSIVE AND CONGRESSMAN SCOTT AND YOURSELF TALKED ABOUT THIS $400 BILLION TAX CUT THAT CONGRESSMAN SCOTT WARNED US WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETIME SOON, IT CAME SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, CONGRESSMAN SCOTT, AND WE LISPED TO YOU AND THOSE OF WHITE HOUSE VOTED NO, YOU KNOW, TRIED. WE TRIED. BUT HERE WE ARE WITH YOUR PREDICTION COMING TRUE. YOU KNOW, HERE WE'RE ASKING ONCE AGAIN, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT THE MOST VULNERABLE TO PAY ONCE AGAIN AND THAT IS JUST DOWNRIGHT WRONG. A FAILURE TO RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT WOULD MEAN AN IMMEDIATE STOP TO OVER 40% OF THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. OUR SOLD WOORS NOT GET PAID, SOCIAL SECURITY -- SOLDIERS WOULD NOT GET PAID, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID PAYMENTS WOULD BE DELAYED AND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN WOULD BE THREATENED ALONG WITH THE HELP OF OUR VERY FRAGILE ECONOMY. THE INCREDIBLY IRRESPONSIBLE POSITION THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TAKEN, PROTECTING TAX BREAKS NOR THE SUPER RICH, WALL STREET CORPORATIONS, BIG OIL, THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND PREVENTING THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT FROM DEFAULTING ON OUR DEBTS. AND LET ME JUST REMIND THOSE WHO WANT TO CUT MEDICARE AND DISMANTLE MEDICARE, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, MEDICARE RECIPIENTS DID NOT CREATE THE NATIONAL DEBT AND THAT IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT BALANCING THE BUDGET OR PAYING DOWN THE DEBT ON THE BACKS OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE FACING LIVING IN POVERTY. AND LET ME REMIND OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES AGAIN THAT THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF CHAIRMAN CLEAVER, CONGRESSWOMAN CHRISTENSEN, CONGRESSMAN BOBBY SCOTT, ALREADY OFFERED A BUDGET ANSWERED MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THAT WOULD SAVE $5.7 TRILLION FROM THE DEFICIT, PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES AND WOULD HAVE ENSURED THE STABILITY OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND OUR BUDGET WAS BALANCED. SO THE COUNTRY'S NOT BROKE AM. WE KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. TWO WARS, THESE MASSIVE TAX CUTS FOR THE VERY WEALTHY, WALL STREET GOING AMOK. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO BE REAL AND IT'S TIME TO BE TRUTHFUL, IT'S TIME TO BE HONEST AND IT'S TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE HERE WILL NOT DIG US DEEPER INTO THE HOLE. AMERICA REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE TIME FOR THESE REPUBLICAN GAMES. LET ME ALSO CONCLUDE BY TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING QUICKLY THE RANKS OF THE UN-- RANCOR OF THE UNEMPLOYED ARE -- THE RANKS OF THE UNEMPLOYED ARE GOING TO GROW EVEN GREATER. UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION IS REALLY SURVIVAL FUNDS, SURVIVAL COMPENSATION, UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO CREATE JOBS AND INCIDENTALLY THE REPUBLICANS HAVEN'T PUT FORWARD ANY JOBS PLAN SINCE THEY'VE BEEN IN POWER. BUT THESE LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS WHO HAVE RUN OUT OF THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION KNOWN AS THE 99ERS, THEY CONTINUE TO FACE UNCERTAINTY AND HARDSHIP AND THE HOUSE MUST ACT NOW TO STAND WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS. H.R. 589 WHICH MY COLLEAGUE CONGRESSMAN SCOTT AND I INTRODUCED EARLIER THIS YEAR, CONGRESSWOMAN CHRISTENSEN AND MANY MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS ARE CO-SPONSORS, THIS WOULD ADD 14 WEEKS OF UNEMPLOYMENT EMERGENCY COMPENSATION AND WOULD MAKE THESE BENEFITS RETROACTIVELY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE CAUSTED -- EXHAUSTED ALL OF THEIR BENEFITS AND ARE STILL UNEMPLOYED. EXTENDING THESE BENEFITS FOR LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED INDIVIDUALS WILL STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY, EMPOWER MORE CONSUMERS AND CREATE MORE JOBS. SO THIS EXTENSION SHOULD BE IN ANY DEFICIT REDUCTION PLAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THE MORALLY CORRECT THING TO DO, THIS IS THE ECONOMICALLY PRUDENT THING TO DO IN TERMS OF PASSING EMERGENCY EXTENSION. IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IN TAKING BOLD STEPS TO CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS FOR AMERICANS. SO WE SHOULD BE WORKING TO PASS A JOBS BILL THAT WOULD HELP PEOPLE FIND THIS PATHWAY OUT OF POVERTY, WE SHOULD HELP KEEP MIDDLE INCOME INDIVIDUALS FROM FALLING INTO POVERTY, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A BUDGET AND A PLAN THAT, YES, WILL HELP PAY DOWN OUR DEBT, YES IT IS PART OF DEFICIT REDUCTION THAT INCORPORATES DEFICIT REDUCTION AS PART OF IT, BUT, NO, THAT DOES NOT CUT MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICAID AND WE SHOULD REALLY BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CREATE SOME JOBS FOR PEOPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, CONGRESSWOMAN CHRISTENSEN, FOR CALLING THIS SPECIAL ORDER TODAY. WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE WORLD KNOWS THAT THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS CONTINUES TO CALL TO THE ATTENTION THE GAMES THAT REPUBLICANS ARE PLAYING THAT WILL THREATEN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AS WELL AS OUR ECONOMIC INTERESTS AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE WORKING TO TRY TO CREATE SOME JOBS AND TO HELP ENSURE THAT THIS DEBT CEILING IS RAISED. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THANK YOU AGAIN.

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  • 08:28:51 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA LEE, AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WHEN…

    THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA LEE, AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR JOBS SUMMIT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO WE PASSED OUT SOME INFORMATION TO THOSE IN ATTENDANCE THAT ADDED UP TO ABOUT 30 JOB CREATING PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT JUST THE C.B.C. HAS INTRODUCED IN THIS YEAR AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HAS BROUGHT ANY JOB CREATING BILLS TO THE FLOOR AND IN THIS RECOVERY THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, JOBS. AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WE WERE ACCUSEDED OF CLASS WARFARE BUT WE'RE NOT PITTING THE POOR AGAINST THE RICH OR THE MIDDLE CLASS AGAINST THE RICH. WE JUST THINK THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE ON THE SIDE OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE CALLING FOR SHARED SACRIFICE AND FOR FAIRNESS AND REALLY THIS OUGHT TO BE A CLEAN DEBT CEILING, RAISING OF THE DEBT CEILING. THE CUTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE GOING TO HURT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE TOO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE RUSHING THROUGH AND USING TO HOLD THE DEBT CEILING HOSTAGE. SO LET'S NOT HOLD SUCH A CRITICAL THING AS OUR ABILITY TO PAY OUR BILLS, TAKE CARE OF OUR SENIORS, OUR CHILDREN, OUR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AND RESERVE OUR CREDIT WORTHINESS, NOT ONLY FOR AMERICANS BUT THE WHOLE WORLD DEPENDS ON US AND WE CANNOT LET THEM DOWN, WITH YOU CANNOT LET THE AMERICAN PUBLIC DOWN, INCLUDING MY CONSTITUENTS, WE CANNOT LET OUR COUNTRY DOWN AND ALL OF THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WHO DEPEND ON US AND WITH THAT I THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR JOINING ME, I WANT TO ONCE AGAIN THANK THE AARP FOR THEIR PETITIONS AND FOR THIS STRONG ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF NOT ONLY SENIORS BUT ALL AMERICANS IN OUR COUNTRY AND I'D LIKE TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ENTER A STATEMENT FOR CONGRESSWOMAN EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON INTO THE RECORD THIS EVENING.

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  • 08:30:49 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. UNDER THE SPEAKER'S…

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. UNDER THE SPEAKER'S ANNOUNCED POLICY OF JANUARY 5, 2011,, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. GINGREY, IS RECOGNIZED FOR 60 MINUTES AS THE DESIGNEE OF THE MAJORITY LEADER. .

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  • 08:31:06 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I THANK MY LEADERSHIP, THE MAJORITY LEADER ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, SPEAKER…

    I THANK MY LEADERSHIP, THE MAJORITY LEADER ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND OUR CONFERENCE CHAIRMAN, REPRESENTATIVE JEB HENSARLING, FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY, THE HOUSE G.O.P. DOCTORS CAUCUS TO HAVE THE SPECIAL ORDER HOUR THIS EVENING. IT'S CONVENIENT, MY WELL RESPECTED MEMBERS AND FRIENDS FROM THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN REGARD TO MOVING FORWARD, TALKING, OF COURSE, ABOUT SAFETY NET PROGRAMS AND ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS, SUCH AS SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND THAT'S A GREAT LEAD-IN ABOUT OUR TOPIC THIS EVENING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE MEDICARE PROGRAM. WE, ON OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE IN THE REPUBLIC CAVERN PAST, HOUSE -- REPUBLICAN PAST, WE HAVE SOLVED THE CRISIS WHICH THE TRUSTEES HAVE SAID TO ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, NOT DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS, BUT ALL OF US THAT ACCORDING TO THE TRUSTEE REPORT THAT BY THE YEAR 2024, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MEDICARE PROGRAM AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, AS IT'S CURRENTLY FUNDED, THE AMENDMENT OF SPENDING THAT OCCURS YEAR AFTER YEAR AND WILL ONLY INCREASE AS MORE AND MORE OF OUR BABY BOOMERS ARE REACHING AGE 65, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, THEN THAT MEDICARE PART A HOSPITAL TRUST FUND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY RECIPIENT CONSTITUENT PREMIUMS, IT'S GOING TO GO BROKE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO GO BROKE. I SAY TO MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES, THE COMPASSIONATE THING AND I KNOW THEY HAVE COMPASSION, THE COMPASSIONATE THING IS TO SAVE THE PROGRAM TO GUARANTEE, PRESERVE IT FOR CURRENT MEDICARE RECIPIENTS, EVEN FOR FOLKS WHO ARE ARE 65 YEARS OF AGE TODAY. MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT WOULD BE PROTECTED, WOULD BE STRENGTH THEPPED FOR ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. AND BY THE TIME THOSE WHO ARE 55 YEARS OLD TODAY BECOME 65 IN 10 YEARS, AROUND 2024, MR. SPEAKER, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE 65 MILLION SENIORS AND A SMALLER NUMBER OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM AS WE KNOW IT. THEY WOULD BE IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM AS WE KNOW IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR NATURAL LIVES. AND BECAUSE OF GOOD HEALTH CARE IN THIS COUNTRY, MANY PEOPLE, WOMEN, ARE LIVING TO AGE 82 AND MEN TO 78, THESE 68 MILLION PEOPLE WOULD BE ON MEDICARE FOR A LONG TIME AND WHAT WE DO ON OUR BUDGET AND MY COLLEAGUES DIDN'T MNGS IT, BUT WHAT WE DO IN OUR BUDGET GO FORWARD WITH A PLAN FOR YOUNGER FOLKS AND INDEED FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN, 10 GRANDCHILDREN, THE OLDEST ARE TWO 13-YEAR-OLD TWINS, BUT EVEN 25-YEAR-OLDS, 35-YEAR-OLDS, 35-YEAR-OLDS, WE SOLVE THE MEDICARE PROBLEM SO IT WILL BE THERE FOR THEM INSTEAD OF NOTHING COME 2024 AND MAYBE PAY FOR 25 YEARS, THAT FICA TAX THAT IS TAKEN OUT OF THEIR PAY CHECK. I SAY TO MY FRIENDS, THIS IDEA THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS AND THE LEADERSHIP OF YOUR PARTY OF JUST SIMPLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD DOESN'T GET THE JOB DONE. IT'S WHAT WE CALL SOMETIMES AND I KNOW ALL OF US KNOW THE EXPRESSION, WHISTLING PAST THE GRAVEYARD, PRETENDING THAT A PROBLEM DOESN'T EXIST AND THAT IS AN UNCONSCIONABLE APPROACH. I'M PLEASED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE JOINED WITH US, SOME OF THEM ARE PART OF THE HOUSE G.O.P. DOCTORS CAUCUS AND WE ARE MOSTLY MEDICAL DOCTORS, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REGISTERED NURSES IN OUR CAUCUS. THERE ARE DENTISTS. IN THE AGGREGATE, THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE G.O.P., DOCTORS CAUCUS ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO SPENT A LOT OF THEIR LIFE PRACTICING MEDICINE AND PROVIDING CARE, INDEED, UNDER MEDICAID AND THE MEDICARE PROGRAM, SEEING THOSE PATIENTS MOSTLY AT A FINANCIAL LOSS, BUT STILL, VERY WILLING TO TRY TO HELP THOSE FOLKS WHO NEED US TO BE THERE FOR THEM IN THESE SAFETY NET PROGRAMS. I THINK IN THE AGGREGATE, THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE HOUSE G.O.P. DOCTORS CAUCUS MAY HAVE OVER 350 YEARS OF CLINICAL EXPERIENCE. MAYBE WE ARE GETTING GRAY BY THE SIDEBURNS, BUT WE ARE NOW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE SENIORS OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE AND PROTECT PROGRAMS LIKE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT TONIGHT. I WANT TO FIRST YIELD TO MY FRIEND FROM TENNESSEE, MY CO-OB-G YMP N DOCTOR AND DR. PHIL ROE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS BODY FOR FOUR YEARS AND BEEN A GREAT ASSET. AND I KNOW THAT DR. R OMP E HAS A BILL THAT HE WANTS TO ADDRESS CONCERNING SOME PROBLEMS THAT WERE ENACTED UNDER OBAMACARE. SO I YIELD TO DR. ROE.

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  • 08:38:11 PM

    MR. ROE

    SPEAKER, I GO BACK TO WHEN MEDICARE FIRST BEGAN ABOUT -- IN 1965, THERE…

    SPEAKER, I GO BACK TO WHEN MEDICARE FIRST BEGAN ABOUT -- IN 1965, THERE WAS A PROBLEM IDENTIFIED IN AMERICA WHERE WE HAD A GROUP OF OUR CITIZENS AS THEY BECAME 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER THAT DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY HEALTH CARE. SO A PLAN WAS PUT IN PLACE TO ACCESS QUALITY HEALTH CARE. IN 1965, MR. SPEAKER, THE MEDICARE PROGRAM WAS A $3 BILLION PROGRAM. THERE WAS NO CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE AT THAT TIME. THE ESTIMATES, THAT IN 25 YEARS, THIS WOULD BE A $15 BILLION PROGRAM BUT TURNED OUT TO BE $OVER 100 BILLION. IN 2010, $550 BILLION. WE ALSO AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IN OUR PREVIOUS HOUR BY OUR FRIENDS FROM THE BLACK CAUCUS THAT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS DEFICIT, BORROWING 42 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR IN THIS COUNTRY. I CAME TO WASHINGTON -- I PRACTICED MEDICINE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I REALIZED THAT WE HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM, NOT JUST IN MEDICARE BUT IN HEALTH CARE. WE CAME TO WORK IN HEALTH CARE REFORM AND THE DOCTORS' CAUCUS, NOT ONE OF US WAS CONSULTED WITH THE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT. DECADES' WORTH OF EXPERIENCE. OVER 200 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CONGRESS AT THAT TIME AND NOT ONE OF US WAS ACTUALLY CONSULTED. THE WAY I LOOKED AT THE PROBLEM IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM WAS WE HAD THREE PROBLEMS. ONE IS WE HAD A PROBLEM WHERE THE SYSTEM WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. GO TO THE DOCTOR AND COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY. WE HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. MAYBE THE HUSBAND IS A CARPENTER AND THE WIFE WORKED AT A DINER AND THIRDLY, WE HAD A LIABILITY PROBLEM. SO WHAT DID WE DO? WE HAD A -- OVER 2,000-PAGE BILL THAT GOT TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE AND FAILED. THE SENATE DUSTED THE BILL OFF THAT WAS 2,500-PLUS PAGES THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH A HEARING. AND THE THREE PHYSICIANS ALL READ THAT BILL. AND WHEN I READ THAT BILL, MR. SPEAKER, I FOUND SOME THINGS IN THERE, AS DID MY COLLEAGUES, WHICH GREATLY WORRIED US AND HOW THEY FUND THIS BILL, I WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THE FUNDING, ONLY WASHINGTON CAN FUND ANYTHING LIKE THIS. DR. GINGREY HAS POINTED OUT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE MEDICARE. MEDICARE THAT THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE SAYS IT WILL BE OUT OF MONEY. AND THERE ARE FOUR PARTS OF MEDICARE, MEDICARE PART A PAID FOR BY YOUR PREMIUMS, HOPIZATIONS. MEDICARE PART D, DOCTOR SERVICES AND LAB SERVICES, FUNDED BY 25% FROM YOUR PREMIUMS, 75 FRS COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND, TAXPAYERS. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE WHICH WAS CUT AND MEDICARE PART D IS ONLY FUNDED BY 25% BY OUR PREMIUMS. I'M A MEDICARE RECIPIENT MYSELF AS OF LAST YEAR. SO WHAT DID THE ADMINISTRATION DO AND THE SENATE DO TO FUND THIS AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT? THEY TOOK OUT OF AN ALREADY UNDERFUNDED PROGRAM AS I POINTED OUT, $500 BILLION. AND DR. GINGREY POINTED OUT MOMENTS AGO THAT WE'RE ADDING THREE MILLION BABY BOOMERS PER YEAR. 10,000 A DAY. WE ARE ADDING MILLIONS OF RECIPIENTS WHILE PULLING OUT $500 BILLION AND WE CALL THIS SAVING MEDICARE. WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET IMPASSE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND IN THERE, MR. SPEAKER, WAS A VERY LITTLE KNOWN BOARD CALLED THE INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD. AND BEFORE MEDICARE HAD THIS BOARD IN THERE, WHICH WAS STRICTLY THERE. MEDPAC THAT SAID TO CONGRESS, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH FUNDING AND MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK OVER HERE. CONGRESS WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS. WHAT IPAB --

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  • 08:43:03 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    TO CALL MY COLLEAGUE'S ATTENTION TO THIS POSTER, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT DR.…

    TO CALL MY COLLEAGUE'S ATTENTION TO THIS POSTER, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT DR. ROE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS, INDEPENDENT PATIENT ADVISORY BOARD AND I WANT ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE THIS POSTER, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT DR. ROE HAS TAKEN US THROUGH TO THIS POINT.

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  • 08:43:28 PM

    MR. ROE

    DID WHEN I READ THIS, I LOOKED AT IT AND THOUGHT HOW IS THIS CREATED AND…

    DID WHEN I READ THIS, I LOOKED AT IT AND THOUGHT HOW IS THIS CREATED AND WHY IS IT CREATED. THIS BOARD HAS 15 MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, BY THE PRESIDENT, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T WANT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT DOING THAT. THEY ARE APPROVED FOR A SIX-YEAR TERM AND PAID $165,000 A YEAR AND WHAT IS THEIR CHARGE? IF MEDICARE SPENDING HITS CERTAIN TARGETED LIMITS THAT CUTS OCCUR FIRST TO PROVIDERS AND FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND THEN LATER TO HOMENTS. WELL, WHAT WORRIES ME, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND DR. PAUL BROUN IS HERE TONIGHT, WITH OUR PATIENTS SEEING THEIR MEDICARE, HOW FINDING A PHYSICIAN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF YOU HIT THESE TARGETED LIMITS AND PHYSICIAN PAYMENTS ARE CUT, ACCESS TO CARE IS GOING TO BE CUT, QUALITY OF CUT IS GOING TO BE CUT AND THE CARE TO OUR SENIORS IS GOING TO GO UP. AND WHAT WORRIES ME IS THIS BOARD MIMICS THE BOARD THAT IS IN ENGLAND CALLED THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF CLINICAL EXCELLENCE AND THEY MAKE REGIONSES ABOUT WHAT CARE IS PROVIDED. PRESIDENT OBAMA IS GOING TO USE THIS AND HE WANTS TO INCREASE THE POWER OF IT TO HELP MEDICARE COSTS DOWN. WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE MORE DEMAND FOR SERVICES IS YOUR CARE WILL BE RATIONED AND THAT'S THE FEAR THAT WE HAVE. OUR CONCERN IS THAT AND I HAVE GONE TO SENIORS IN MY DISTRICT AND BEEN VERY CLEAR AND POINTED THIS OUT AT TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND HAVE HELD TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH SENIOR AND SAID WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU QUALITY OF ACCESS OF CARE. AND HAVE THEM HELP US SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. AND I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE WE HAVE, MR. SPEAKER, IS HOW DO WE PROVIDE THE CARE WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE AND PROVIDE QUALITY OF CARE AND ACCESS TO OUR PATIENTS AND I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT THE IPAB WILL DO THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. AND I YIELD BACK. .

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  • 08:45:50 PM

    MR. GINGREY

  • 08:48:11 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THANK YOU, DR. GINGREY, APPRECIATE YOU YIELDING A FEW MINUTES. I WANTED TO…

    THANK YOU, DR. GINGREY, APPRECIATE YOU YIELDING A FEW MINUTES. I WANTED TO KIND OF BREAK ALL THIS DOWN SO THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE POSTER HERE THAT SHOWS THE DEMOCRATS, PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS' MEDICARE SOLUTION. THIS IS THEIR MEDICARE PLAN. THEY DENY THE PROBLEM, THEY DENY THE PROBLEM THAT, DR. GINGREY, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS HUGE, HUGE PROBLEM WHERE MEDICARE'S GOING TO GO BROKE IN A MATTER OF JUST A DECADE. THEY WANT TO DELAY ANY FIXES, IN FACT MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT TODAY EXISTS NO LONGER. OBAMACARE TOOK CARE OF THAT. AND THEY WANT TO DESTROY IT. THEY WILL DESTROY IT BY LETTING IT GO BROKE. SO THIS IS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY'S HEALTH CARE PLAN. DENY IT, DELAY IT AND DESTROY IT BY LETTING IT GO BROKE. JUST RECENTLY ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING GROUPS RELEASED SOMETHING THAT SHOULD SCARE EVERY SENIOR, EVERY TAXPAYER, EVERY AMERICAN. THEY SAID THAT MEDICARE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DECADES, A LOT OF ZEROS IN THIS, 63 AND A LOT OF ZEROS. THIS IS UNFUNDED LIABILITY OF MEDICARE OVER JUST THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES.

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  • 08:49:47 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    WILL BE $63 TRILLION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

  • 08:49:51 PM

    MR. BROUN

    I JUST TRY TO MAKE IT SO THE ZEROS DIDN'T CONFUSE FOLKS. THE LIABILITIES…

    I JUST TRY TO MAKE IT SO THE ZEROS DIDN'T CONFUSE FOLKS. THE LIABILITIES FOR MEDICARE IS $63 TRILLION. THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE. THERE'S NO WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. WE NEED TO SHORE UP MEDICARE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STRENGTHENED SO THAT OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT ONLY THE SENIOR CITIZENS TODAY CAN CONTINUE TO GET MEDICARE BUT FUTURE GENERATIONS ALSO. NOW, WHAT DOES $63 TRILLION OF UNFUNDED LIABILITIES MEAN TO EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY? I MEAN, THAT'S TOO BIG A NUMBER FOR EVERYBODY TO REALLY CONSIDER. SO I BROKE IT DOWN TO EVERY FAMILY IN THE UNITED STATES. EVERY FAMILY'S PART OF THIS $63 TRILLION OF UNFUNDED LIABILITIES FOR MEDICARE AS IT EXISTS TODAY IS OVER $500,000. PER FAMILY. $500,000 PER FAMILY. OF UNFUNDED LIABILITIES FOR MEDICARE JUST IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MOST FAMILIES BUT MY FAMILY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY $500,000 AND NEITHER CAN THE GOVERNMENT.

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  • 08:51:10 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WILL YIELD BACK TO ME FOR JUST A SECOND AND I'VE GOT A…

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WILL YIELD BACK TO ME FOR JUST A SECOND AND I'VE GOT A POST THAT ARE POINTS OUT JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, DR. BROUN, IS SAYING. THE C.B.O., IF YOU LOOK, COLLEAGUES, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POSTER, C.B.O. ESTIMATES INDIVIDUAL AND CORPORATE INCOME TAX RATES WOULD HAVE TO RISE BY 90% THROUGH THE YEAR 2050 TO FINANCE MEDICARE AND MEDCARE CADE. AND IF MEDICARE IS NOT FIXED, MILLIONS OF WORKERS TODAY WILL LOSE THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE INVESTED AND INDEED THEY HAVE INVESTED WITH THAT PAYROLL TAX OVER THEIR MANY YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:51:55 PM

    MR. BROUN

  • 08:55:00 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I THANK, MR. SPEAKER, I THANK THE GENTLEMAN VERY MUCH AND WHILE WE'RE ON…

    I THANK, MR. SPEAKER, I THANK THE GENTLEMAN VERY MUCH AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE D WORD, IF WILL YOU, DENY, DELAY , DEMAGOGUE, I'LL USE ANOTHER, I'LL USE ANOTHER D WORD AND IT'S REALLY THE SOFTEST THING I CAN SAY ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS' PLAN AND THAT IS DISINGENUOUS. DISINGENUOUS. FOR THEM TO STAND UP OR FOR THE PRESIDENT TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT -- HE'S GOING TO FIX MEDICARE -- SAY THAT HE'S GOING TO FIX MEDICARE AT THE SAME TIME DR. ROE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IN THE EVENING, I'M GOING TO REFER BACK TO HIM IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN THE CREATION OF A WHOLE NEW ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE KNOW IT AS OBAMACARE OFFICIALLY, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY IT'S CALLED PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. I THINK IT'S THE UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND THAT IT COSTS $1 TRILLION. BUT WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM TO PAY FOR THIS NEW ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM THAT REALLY HAD NOTHING, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SENIORS? WELL, MY COLLEAGUES, LOOK AT THIS POSTER TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT. HERE'S WHERE AT LEAST HALF OF THE MONEY CAME FROM, CUTTING MEDICARE, CUTTING MEDICARE BY $575 BILLION. I MEAN, RIGHT OUT OF THE MEDICARE PROGRAM. THAT INCLUDED HOME HEALTH CARE, IT INCLUDED HOSPICE, BUT THE BIGGEST CUT WAS $130 BILLION, THAT'S BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO, $130 BILLION FROM THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLANS AND MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THIS AND I'M SURE THEY'LL WANT TO COMMENT ON IT, OF THE 47 MILLION PEOPLE, 45 MILLION, 47 MILLION PEOPLE TODAY WHO ARE ON MEDICARE, ABOUT SEVEN MILLION TO 10 MILLION OF THEM RECEIVE THEIR MEDICAL CARE ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE OPTION WHICH GIVES THEM MORE BENEFITS, MORE BANK FOR THE BUCK AND IT COVERS A LOT OF PREVENTIVE SERVICES THAT ARE NOT GIVEN, NOT OFFERED IN TRADITIONAL MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT. SO THAT CUT $130 BILLION, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE 14% CUT OUT OF THAT PROGRAM. THAT MEANS THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THESE SENIORS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK INTO MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT AND GET A LESSER BENEFIT. IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SAID BY -- IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SAID BY THE ACT WEAR OF MEDICARE -- ACTUARY OF MEDICARE ON APRIL IT 2, 2010, THAT -- APRIL 22, 2010, THAT 15% OF HOSPITALS, NURSING HOMES AND HOME HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS WILL CLOSE BECAUSE MEDICARE PAYS LESS UNDER

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  • 08:58:09 PM

    MR. BROUN

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 08:58:11 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I WANT TO YIELD JUST BRIEFLY TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA BEFORE I YIELD…

    I WANT TO YIELD JUST BRIEFLY TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA BEFORE I YIELD SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO MY COLLEAGUE, OUR CO-CHAIR OF THE HOUSE G.O.P. DOCTORS' CAUCUS, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 08:58:24 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING JUST A MOMENT TO ME BECAUSE I WANT TO ADD TO THAT…

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING JUST A MOMENT TO ME BECAUSE I WANT TO ADD TO THAT STATISTICS, 15% OF HOSPITALS, NURSING HOMES AND HOME HEALTH CARE WILL CLOSE BECAUSE MEDICARE PAYS LESS UNDER OBAMACARE. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY IS -- ABSOLUTELY TRUE. A LOT OF THOSE HOSPITALS ARE GOING TO BE IN RURAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE RURAL COMMUNITIES CAN BE HIT THE HARDEST. I'M A PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR AS THE GENTLEMAN KNOWS, I'M A FAMILIAR DOCTOR. -- FAMILY DOCTOR. DONE GENERAL MEDICINE FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS NOW. THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS SAID RIGHT NOW TODAY ONE IN EIGHT FAMILY DOCS WILL NOT ACCEPT MEDICARE AT ALL. ONLY ONE IN THREE DOCTORS, ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, -- EXCUSE ME, ONE IN THREE DOCTORS ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION LIMITS HOW MANY MEDICARE PATIENTS THAT THEY TAKE. THAT IS A MARKED RISE. BACK IN 2004 IT WAS ONLY -- IT WAS ONLY 6% OF PRIMARY CAUST CARE DOCTORS -- NO, OF ALL DOCTORS LIMITED THEIR MEDICARE PATIENTS. 2008 IT WENT UP TO 8%. THAT'S ALMOST 1/3. LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MEDICARE PATIENTS THAT THEY SEE. AND ONE IN EIGHT FAMILY DOCS DON'T TAKE MEDICARE AT ALL. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO. BECAUSE THE LOW REIMBURSEMENT RATES AND IPAB IS GOING TO HIT THOSE FOLKS THAT MUCH HARDER. WE SAID DURING OUR SPECIAL ORDER WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING OBAMACARE THAT -- I MADE A COMMENT THAT SOMEBODY MAY HAVE A FREE HEALTH CARE CARD IN THEIR POCKET BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AS WORTHLESS AS THE CONFEDERATE DOLLAR BECAUSE NOBODY WILL TAKE IT AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE HEADED SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:00:17 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. I NOW YIELD TO MY CO-CHAIR OF HOUSE…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. I NOW YIELD TO MY CO-CHAIR OF HOUSE G.O.P. DOCTORS CAUCUS, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, DR. TIM MURPHY. .

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  • 09:00:32 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE YOU BROUGHT UP, THE $535 MILLION FROM THE MEDICARE…

    TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE YOU BROUGHT UP, THE $535 MILLION FROM THE MEDICARE PROGRAM AND FORCING MILLIONS OF SENIORS OUT OF THEIR CURRENT MEDICARE PLAN UNLESS THEY PAY MORE. I WANT TO POINT OUT, WHILE THE PRESIDENT AND OTHERS ARE SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO CUT MEDICARE AND WHAT IT DOES, NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHOW HOW IF MEDICARE IS HANDLED DIFFERENTLY, NOT BY IPAB OR A BOARD OF BUREAUCRATS, BUT LETTING DOCTORS WORK, THEY CAN DRIVE DOWN COST AND IMPROVE QUALITY. LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE. SENIORS ARE ABLE TO MAKE CHOICES WITH MEDICARE THEY CAN GET MEDICARE PART D DRUG COVERAGE, SUPPLEMENTAL MEDIGAP POLICIES. WHAT THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN DOES IS ALLOWS SOME MANAGEMENT OF DISEASES AS CHRONIC ILLNESS, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT PR THE CURRENT FEE FOR SERVICE WHERE PEOPLE GET PAID BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PROCEDURES THEY DO. WHEN MEDICARE ADVANTAGE -- UNDER REGULAR MEDICARE FEE FOR SERVICE PLAN, HOSPITAL READMISSION RATES, 30 DAYS POST TREATMENT, WAS OVER 18%. BUT THE AVERAGE READMISSION RATE ACROSS MEDICARE ADVANTAGE WAS 13.5%. WHY? IT ALLOWED PHYSICIANS AND NURSES TO TALK TO THE PATIENT, FOLLOW THE PATIENT, TO WORK WITH THE DISEASE TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER COMPLICATION THEY HAD, INFECTION, HEART DISEASE, LUNG DISEASE, ORTHOPEDIC PROBLEM TO PAY THAT PHYSICIAN AND STAFF TO WORK FOR THEM. HERE'S ANOTHER BREASTING THING. THE MEDICARE FEE FOR SERVICE RATE OF PREVENTABLE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT HAVE ITS WAS 15.5 HAVE ITS PER 100 BENEFICIARY MONTH IN 2007. BUT THE AVERAGE ACROSS MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN WAS TWO HAVE ITS PER 100. 86% LOWER. HERE'S ANOTHER POINT. ACTUAL COSTS FOR THE DRUG PLAN MEDICARE PART D COMES OUT 40% UNDER BUDGET BECAUSE INSURERS ARE FORCED TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER. IMAGINE THIS. SENIORS CAN CHOOSE MEDICARE SUPPLEMENTAL PLANS AND THOSE PLANS COMPETE FOR SENIORS COVERAGE, THE DRUG PLANS COMPETE FOR SENIORS' COVERAGE, WHAT HAPPENS IF SENIORS ARE ALLOWED TO ALSO CHOOSE THEIR MAIN MEDICARE PLAN? LISTEN TO THIS ADDITIONAL ISSUE ABOUT DRUGS. THE INTERCONTINENTAL MARKING SERVICES THIS COMES FROM THE DELOITTE & TOUCHE WEBSITE, THE STUDY CONCLUDED THE AVERAGE COST FOR DRUGS USED BY MEDICARE PART D BENEFICIARIES DECLINED SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE TOP 10 THERAPEUTIC CLASSES, PART D DRUGS DECREASED BY OVER 1/3 FROM $1.50 TO $1. THEY PREDICT IT WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE, REACHING 65 CENTS BY THE END OF 2015. THAT'S A MASSIVE DECLINE. WHY? BECAUSE PLANS ARE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER. PLANS INNOVATE THEY TRY TO DO THINGS BETTER AND SMARTER WITH BETTER QUALITY AND THEY ASK SENIORS TO CHOOSE THEIR PLAN. SENIORS, BY SIGNING THEIR NAME, CAN CHOOSE A PLAN THAT WORKS FOR THEM. WHY NOT ALLOW SEEPORS TO HAVE MEDICARE CHOICE WITH THEIR MAJOR MEDICARE PLAN? WHY NOT ALLOW SENIORS TO HAVE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE INSTEAD OF GUTTING THE PROGRAM. THIS IS THE VERY THING WE'RE SAYING. BY IMPROVING EFFICIENCIES AND QUALITIES WITHIN THE PROGRAM A LOT OF COSTS CAN BE REDUCED. IT CAN'T BE REDUCED BY THE STATUS QUO. AS YOU POINTED OUT, DR. GINGREY, KEEPING THE STATUS QUO MEANS THERE WON'T BE MEDICARE. THERE WILL BE MEDICARE FOR THOSE CURRENTLY ON IT, IT WON'T BE THERE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. WE WANT TO SAVE MEDICARE BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT THE WAY IT'S BEING DONE NOW. THE SYSTEM BEING DONE NOW, FRIGHTEN SENIOR, SAY IF WE DONE PASS THIS DEBT LIMIT INCREASE WITHOUT STRINGS ATTACHED, SENIORS WON'T HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE, THIS IS SUCH A FALSEHOOD. IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN TWO WAYS. ONE, IT'S SERIOUS BECAUSE IT'S TELLING A FALSEHOOD TO SENIORS. TWO, IT LOOKS DOWN UPON SENIORS, THINKING THAT THEY'RE SUSCEPTIBLE ENOUGH NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THAT THIS IS FALSE. IT IS SO IMPORTANT AND WE WANT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE MEDICARE BECAUSE WE DO WANT IT TO BE THERE FOR THE FUTURE. BUT IT MEANS MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH LETTING DOCTORS BE THE ONES THAT CALL THE SHOTS ON IMPROVING CARE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:05:22 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, HE SPENT HIS…

    I APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, HE SPENT HIS PROFESSIONAL LIFE IN PROVIDING MEDICAL SERVICES TO HIS PATIENTS JUST AS SO MANY OF THE DOCTORS IN THE CAUCUS. YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE CUT TO MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, AND AS DR. MURPHY DESCRIBED THAT METHOD OF GETTING CARE, MR. SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY OF WANTING TO REWARD HEALTH CARE BASED ON QUALITY AND NOT NECESSARILY QUANTITY. JUST STRICTLY FEE FOR SERVICE, A NUMBER OF TIMES YOU GO TO SEE A PROVIDER AND THAT PROVIDER GETTING PAID, ALBEIT A SMALL AMOUNT, IT'S NOT A VERY EFFICIENT WAY. AND CERTAINLY A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY AND WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IS TO PROVIDE QUALITY OF CARE AND DR. MURPHY CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MEDICARE ADVANTAGE DOES. IT OFFERS QUALITY OF CARE AND A WELLNESS PROVISION AND YOU KNOW, WERE WE PAYING THESE PLANS A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR THOSE SERVICES? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE, POSSIBLY. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CUT ANY AMOUNT, CERTAINLY 14%, $130 BILLION, IS TOO MUCH BECAUSE THAT GUTS THOSE PLANS BUT WHATEVER SAVINGS YOU GET OUT OF MEDICARE SHOULDN'T THEY STAY IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM? IF YOU BELIEVE THE MEDICARE ACTUARY AND THE TRUSTEES THAT SAY IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING BY 2024, THE TRUST FUND, THE HOSPITAL TRUST FUND IS DEPLETED. THERE IS NO MORE MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT OR IN ANY OTHER WAY. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SAVINGS IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM, YOU DON'T TAKE THAT MONEY, $575 BILLION, AND USE IT TO CREATE A WHOLE NEW OTHER ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY HAS HEALTH INSURANCE WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR NOT, WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT. I CAN THINK OF A LOT OF THINGS IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM THAT COULD BE -- WHERE THIS MONEY COULD BE WELL SPENT. HOW ABOUT LONG-TERM CARE, EXTENDED CARE FACILITY COVERAGE TO KEEP THAT MONEY IN MEDICARE. INSTEAD, WHAT OBAMA CARE COMES UP WITH IS SOMETHING CALLED THE CLASS ACT, WHICH IS A CLASSLESS ACT, MR. SPEAKER, BECAUSE IT IS A MISLEADING PROGRAM THAT CAN'T FUND ITSELF. THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN'T FUND ITSELF. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS OBAMACARE AND OBAMA'S PLAN TO SAVE MEDICARE WHICH REALLY HAS DR. BROUN POINTED OUT IS NO PLAN AT ALL OTHER THAN WHAT DR. ROWE -- DR. ROE HAS POINTED OUT IN REGARDS TO THIS INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD THAT IS GOING TO CUT SPENDING FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE SENIORS. THOSE THAT ARE THE SICKEST. THOSE THAT INCUR THE HIGHEST COSTS. AND THEY SAY THERE'S NO RATIONING BUT IT WILL INDEED, AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE POINTED OUT, MR. SPEAKER, BE DENIAL OF CARE. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

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  • 09:09:07 PM

    MR. ROE

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT DR.…

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT DR. GINGREY POINTED OUT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS, THE CLASS ACT, MAYBE A GOOD IDEA, THE CLASS ACT BEGAN THIS YEAR, WHERE YOU HAVE SOME MONEY TAKEN OUT OF YOUR PAYCHECK AND PUT IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT OVER HERE. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT $87 BILLION IN FIVE YEARS AND WE CAN'T GET IT OUT UNTIL THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME OCCURS AND THIS MONEY HAS ACCUMULATED. AT THAT TIME, IT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR LONG-TERM CARE, ABOUT $50 A DAY. GUESS WHAT HAPPENS, MR. SPEAKER? WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE BORROW THE MONEY OUT AND SPEND IT ON CURRENT HEALTH CARE AND CALL THIS AN ASSET AND CALL THIS AN ASSET. WE'VE COUNTED THAT MONEY TWICE, TWO TIMES. WE'VE DONE THAT WITH SOCIAL SECURITY ALREADY. I FIND THIS ABSOLUTELY OFFENSIVE, WHEN AUGUST 2, 10 DAYS, WHATEVER THAT IS FROM NOW, ABOUT A WEEK FROM NOW, WE'VE HAD THE AUDACITY TO TELL PEOPLE WHO PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR 40 OR 50 YEARS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR CHECK, AND WHY, BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SPENT THAT MONEY. AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN WITH THE CLASS ACT. THERE'S ALREADY BEEN LEGISLATION TO PERHAPS OVERTURN THAT. I'M GOING TO GET BACK JUST A MOMENT TO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE BASIC. THAT'S TO THE EXAMINING ROOM WITH THE PATIENT. THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE MAKING HEALTH CARE DECISIONS SHOULD BE A FAMILY, THE PATIENT, AND THEIR PHYSICIAN, SITTING AROUND AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE. NOT SOME 15 PEOPLE APPOINTED BUREAUCRATS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WE HAVE -- BY THE WAY, DR. GINGREY, MR. SPEAKER, WE'VE HAD OVER 190 CO-SPONSORS, INCLUDING A BIPARTISAN CO-SPONSORSHIP TO THE REPEAL OF IPAB, INCLUDING EVERY PHYSICIAN, EVERY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, AND DR. CHRISTIAN WHO IS -- CHRISTENSEN, WHO WAS DOWN HERE A MOMENT AGO ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, IT'S A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD OVERTURN THIS. THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION BELIEVES IT SHOULD BE OVERTURNED, OVER 270 MAJOR MEDICAL ORGANIZATIONS SEE THROUGH THIS AS A VERY BAD THING FOR PATIENTS AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT, YOU'VE HEARD DR. BROUN SPEAK ABOUT IT, I'VE HEARD YOU SPEAK ABOUT IT, MR. SPEAKER, IS THAT ULTIMATELY IT WILL AFFECT THE QUALITY OF CARE. WHY? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR DOCTOR, THE QUALITY OF YOUR CARE WILL GO DOWN. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION HERE IS WE TALK ABOUT CHANGING MEDICARE. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT MEDICARE HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED IN THIS AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, BEGINNING IN 2010, MEDICARE CUTS TO HOSPITALS, LONG-TERM CARE, IN-PATIENT REHABILITATION SERVICES. IN 2011, PEST BEEN POINTED OUT ALREADY THAT MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLANS, THE SENIORS DID GET A $250 CHECK TO FILL THE DOUGHNUT HOLE. THE WEALTHIER SENIORS BEGAN PAYING HIGHER PREMIUMS FOR MEDICARE PART D, THAT'S IN 2011. MEDICARE IMAGING CUTS, MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT CUTS WHEN SENIORS GET A C.T. SCAN OR M.R.I., MEDICARE CUTS FOR DURABLE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, AMBULANCE SERVICE, DIAGNOSTIC LABS, DURABLE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, WHEELCHAIRS, SENIORS PROHIBITED FROM PURCHASING POWER WHEELCHAIRS UNTIL THEY RENT FOR 13 MONTHS. IN 2012, NEXT YEAR, ELIMINATION OF THE DEDUCTION OF EMPLOYER EXPENSES. THAT'S HUH THEY RAISE $4.5 BILLION. THAT'S NOT TO IMPROVE OUR CURRENT UNDERFUNDED MEDICARE PLAN, THAT'S TO CREATE ANOTHER ENTITLEMENT. A MEDICAL EXPENSE DEDUCTION YOU RAISE THE THRESHOLD FOR DEDUCTING MEDICAL EXPENSES FROM 7.5% TO 10%. THAT'S A TAX RIGHT THERE. HOSPICE CARE IS BEING CUT. DIALYSIS, MEDICARE CUTS TO DIALYSIS TREATMENT WILL BE CUT IN 2012. 2014, THIS INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD BEGINS AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE GETTING, I BELIEVE IT'S $12 MILLION A YEAR TO FUND THIS RIGHT NEW. IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN CUT OFF FUNDING TO THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW, IT SHOULD BE DONE. IN 2015, A PERMANENT CUT TO THE PAYMENT RATE FOR HOME HEALTH AGENCIES, ON AND ON, ALREADY THESE CUTS, YOU HAVEN'T FELT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ALL COME TO FRUITION YET. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH MEDICARE IS SALVAGE THE PROGRAM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND NOT -- A PROMISE MADE IS A PROMISE KEPT. IF YOU'RE 55 OR OLDER WITH SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE, NOTHING HAPPENS. I HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT A VOUCHER. VOUCHERS BEING MADE, THIS IS A VOUCHER SYSTEM, AND SO FORTH. HERE'S WHAT A VOUCHER IS. VOUCHER IS WHEN I GO TO MY MAILBOX AND SHOTGUN COMES THAT SAYS, THIS HAS SO MUCH VALUE. YOU TAKE THIS PIECE OF PAPER AND PURCHASE SOMETHING WITH IT. PREMIUM SUPPORT IS WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH ITS MASSIVE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND NEGOTIATE PRICES, EXACTLY LIKE THEY DO FOR YOU AND ME, MR. SPEAKER, IN OUR HEALTH CARE PLAN HERE IN CONGRESS THEY NEGOTIATE WITH NUMEROUS COMPANIES THROUGH THE EXCHANGE, A FEDERAL EXCHANGE, OUR PLANS -- PLAN IS CALLED THE FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HEALTH CARE PLAN, THEY NEGOTIATE THE BEST PRICE. WHAT HAPPENS IS, DURING THE CAMPAIGN THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE HEARD SENIORS SAY AND OTHERS SAY, CONGRESSMAN, I WANT EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. A HIGHER INCOME SENIOR LIKE MYSELF AND YOU AND THE OTHERS IN THIS ROOM WILL PAY A MUCH HIGHER PREMIUM AND FOLKS WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS AND LOWER INCOME WILL PAY MUCH LOWER AND THEY WILL HAVE THOSE CHOICES AS DR. MURPHY POINTED OUT, WHY DO WE THINK THAT WILL SAVE MONEY? WHY ARE WE DOING IT? IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT IT IS A CATASTROPHE WAITING TO HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT DO SOMETHING. WITH THAT, DR. GINGREY, MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:15:16 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    I THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, DR. ROE,…

    I THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, DR. ROE, AND WHAT HE WAS DESCRIBING, IF I COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT POINT TO OUR COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE I THINK SOME STILL ARE CONFUSED, POSSIBLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, BUT CLEARLY THIS PLAN THAT'S PUT FORTH IN THE HOUSE BUDGET, IT'S A REPUBLICAN BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MAJORITY, IT'S SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE PAUL RYAN BUDGET BECAUSE HE'S CHAIRMAN OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. . IT IS REFERRED TO AS THE PATH TO PROSPERITY. AND THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HAS DEEP-SIXED IT, IF YOU WILL. IN THAT BUDGET PLAN, AS DR. ROE WAS REFERRING TO, TAKING THE RESPONSIBLE APPROACH BASED ON THE TRUSTEES' ESTIMATE OF MEDICARE PROGRAM GOING TOTALLY BROKE BY THE YEAR 2024, AND THAT INFORMATION IS BIPARTISAN. THAT'S THE MEDICARE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TO IGNORE THAT AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM GEORGIA SAID IN HIS REMARKS, THE D-WORDS TO DEFUND, TO DENY, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, DR. BROUN, DELAY, DROY, DEMAGOG, AND I ADDED TO THOSE D WORDS, THEIR PLAN IS RATHER DISINGENUOUS. BUT WHAT DR. ROE WAS DESCRIBING IS PRESERVE AND PROTECT MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT, WHETHER IT IS TRADITIONAL MEDICARE OR SALVAGE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE AND HOLD HARMLESS ANYBODY THAT IS IS OVER AGE 55 THROUGH 65. THEY WERE 10 YEARS AWAY FROM BEING ELIGIBLE FOR A MEDICARE BENEFIT. SO THAT WILL BE IN THOSE PLANS AS WE KNOW IT. BUT THIS APPROACH THAT DR. ROE SO ADEQUATELY DESCRIBES, MR. SPEAKER, THIS PREMIUM SUPPORT PROGRAM, NOT A VOUCHER, AS HE POINTED OUT, THE PREMIUM SUPPORT PROGRAM, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT, THE SAME FOLKS THAT TALKED TO US AND FOUND OUT WHAT KIND OF HEALTH CARE BENEFIT WE WANT, THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE UNDER 65 THAT YOU PICK AND CHOOSE AND YOU NEGOTIATE, THEY WILL DO THE SAME THING FOR FUTURE -- THOSE UNDER AGE 55 TODAY, FUTURE MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES, THEY WILL GET THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, BEST CARE FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. NOW IT'S ESTIMATED THAT IN 2022, THAT PREMIUM SUPPORT AMOUNT ON AVERAGE WILL BE $8,000. OUR DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS WANT TO SAY THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. SENIORS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REACH IN THEIR POCKETS. WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS THAT IS PREMIUM WILL BE HIGHER, WILL BE HIGHER FOR ANYBODY WHO COMES INTO THE MEDICARE PROGRAM WHO'S ALREADY SICK, WHO ALREADY HAS SEVERAL THINGS WRONG WITH THEM AND THAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN I GOT MEDICARE ELIGIBLE. I ALREADY HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY. SO THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE A HIGHER PREMIUM THAN THE AVERAGE OF $8,000 A YEAR. AND AS THEY AGE, EVEN IF THEIR HEALTH IS PERFECT AS THEY COME INTO MEDICARE, THEY MAY HAVE THE GENE AND MAY HAVE WONDERFUL HEALTH, THREE MILES A DAY, DON'T SMOKE, DON'T DRINK EXCESSIVELY, DON'T SKY DIVE BUT AS THEY GET OLDER, THAT PREMIUM WILL GO UP BECAUSE WE KNOW AS YOU GET OLDER THE CHANCES OF SOMETHING HAPPENING ARE GREATER. THE HIGHER YOUR INCOME, THE LOWER YOUR PREMIUM SUPPORT. SO THAT OUR SENIORS WHO NEED IT THE MOST WILL GET A HIGHER -- THEY WON'T GET THE AVERAGE 8,000, BUT A HIGHER PREMIUM SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PLAN, MR. SPEAKER. I ABSOLUTELY DO. AND IT SHOICE THE RESPONSIBILITY -- AND IT SHOWS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MAJORITY PARTY OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AND AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE POINTED OUT, WHAT'S THE PLAN FROM THE DEMOCRATS, FROM THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AND FROM THIS PRESIDENT. DENY IT, DELAY IT, DESTROY IT, DEMAGOG IT OR AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM TENNESSEE HAS POINTED OUT, KILL IT BY CREATING THIS INDEPENDENT PAYMENT ADVISORY BOARD, IPAB, WHICH WILL, WITHOUT QUESTION, LEAD TO DENIAL OF CARE AND RATION AND I YIELD BACK TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM TENNESSEE.

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  • 09:20:55 PM

    MR. ROE

    MR. SPEAKER, THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT HAVING NO PLAN IS A…

    MR. SPEAKER, THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT HAVING NO PLAN IS A PRESCRIPTION FOR DISASTER FOR OUR COUNTRY. WE HAVE A SOLEMN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR OUR SENIORS. WE HAVE MADE THAT PROMISE AND HOW DO WE DO IT. BACK TO WHAT I SAID, I DO NOT WANT A BOARD THAT IS THERE THAT IS APPOINTED BY A DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN OR ANY BUREAUCRAT. WHAT I WANT IS I WANT HEALTH CARE DECISIONS MADE BY PHYSICIANS, PATIENT AND THEIR FAMILY. AND THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE WE USE PREMIUM SUPPORT TO ALLOW THEM MAKE CHOICES. NOT INSURANCE COMPANIES AND CERTAINLY NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN UP HERE IN MY TWO TERMS IS, I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF FEDERAL BUREAUCRATS IN CHARGE OF MY BYPASS OPERATION, GENTLELADY BLADDER OPERATION, I WANT MY DOCTOR MAKING THOSE DECISIONS ALONG WITH MY FAMILY. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DISCUSSIONS WE WILL HAVE IN THIS CONGRESS IS HOW WE DO THIS RIGHT. FORGET THE BUDGET AND FORGET ALL THAT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THE CARE THAT THEY GET. RIGHT NOW AS I MENTIONED, THESE CHANGES ARE ALREADY MADE. THIS IS ALREADY IN THE CURRENT LAW THAT I TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MEDICARE AS IT IS, IT HAS BEEN CHANGED BIG TIME. WHEN THIS BOARD KICKS IN AND IF THERE IS AN ARTICLE, NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, ONE OF OUR MAJOR JOURNALS, MAY, 2010, ONE OF OUR MAJORSONTIVE JOURNALS, THIS BOARD WOULD HAVE KICKED IN 21 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS HAD IT BEEN IN PLACE. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED, IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED 21 OUT OF 25 TIMES. WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? AS DR. BROUN POINTED OUT, AS THESE PAYMENTS FOR PHYSICIANS GO DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN BELOW THEIR COSTS, THEY CAN NO LONGER SEE. YOU LOSE ACCESS.

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  • 09:23:13 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD BACK TO ME FOR A SECOND, WHAT DR. ROE IS…

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD BACK TO ME FOR A SECOND, WHAT DR. ROE IS SPEAKING ABOUT, ON TOP OF THESE CUTS THAT OUR MEDICAL PROVIDERS ARE CURRENTLY FACING UNDER THIS SO-CALLED FLAWED FORMULA SUSTAINABLE GROWTH RATE, WHICH I'M SURE I'M CORRECT ON THIS IN THE PAST NINE YEARS, EVERY CALCULATION HAS BEEN A CUT TO PROVIDER REIMBURSEMENT TO THE POINT NOW THAT WHILE WE IN CONGRESS HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO MITIGATE THAT, THAT IF THESE CUTS FINALLY IN THE AGGREGATE COME DUE DECEMBER 31 OF THIS YEAR, IT'S A 30% CUT. SO WE HAVEN'T SOLVED THAT PROBLEM YET FOR OUR PROVIDERS, BUT YET WE ARE ADDING ON TOP OF THAT THIS IPAB BOARD THAT CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL CUTS TO PROVIDE A REIMBURSEMENT WITHOUT ANY ABILITY OF THE CONGRESS, WE, THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, TO STOP THAT INJUSTICE. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 09:24:22 PM

    MR. ROE

    SAID THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LOSSES OF POWER THAT THE CONGRESS HAS…

    SAID THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LOSSES OF POWER THAT THE CONGRESS HAS GIVEN UP SINCE THE FEDERAL RESERVE. AND THAT'S BEEN ALMOST 100 YEARS AGO. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS, CONGRESS FAKES 2/3 TO OVERTURN WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. WE CAN DO IT IF WE GET 2/3 VOTE. IT ISN'T APPEALABLE.

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  • 09:24:49 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    OVERRULE WITH A 2/3 VOTE. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO FIND CUTS IN THE MEDICARE…

    OVERRULE WITH A 2/3 VOTE. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO FIND CUTS IN THE MEDICARE PROGRAM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

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  • 09:24:59 PM

    MR. ROE

    THOSE CUTS BUT HAVE TO BE MADE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND NO WHERE SHOULD…

    THOSE CUTS BUT HAVE TO BE MADE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND NO WHERE SHOULD CONGRESS GIVE UP ITS ABILITY TO DO THAT. LOOK, WE ARE -- OUR HOUSE, THE HOUSE SIDE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE, CLOSEST TO THEM. WE HAVE 700,000 CONSTITUENTS THAT WE GO TALK TO EVERY TIME WE GET HOME AND WE OUGHT TO BE BEHOLDEN TO THOSE FOLKS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND NOT TO SOME BOARD THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYBODY. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:25:33 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    THE GENTLEMAN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS KIND ENOUGH TO HAVE STAYED…

    THE GENTLEMAN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS KIND ENOUGH TO HAVE STAYED WITH US AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD BACK ADDITIONAL TIME TO HIM IF HE WOULD LIKE.

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  • 09:25:44 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PURPOSE OF OBAMACARE, THE…

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PURPOSE OF OBAMACARE, THE BOTTOM LINE REALLY AS EXPRESSED BY THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF WHEN HE SAID, HE WANTED EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IN ONE POOL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR EVERYBODY? IT MEANS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND THAT'S WHAT ALL THESE CUTS AND EVERYTHING IS GEARED TO DO IS TO FORCE DOCTORS OUT OF PRIVATE PRACTICE, MAKE THEM EMPLOYEES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND MAKE PATIENTS SUBJECT TO SOME BUREAUCRAT HERE IN WASHINGTON AND TELL THEM WHAT KIND OF HEALTH CARE THEY CAN GET. AND THE DEMOCRATS' PLAN IS TO DENY, TO DELAY AND TO DESTROY MEDICARE BY LETTING IT GO BROKE. WOY LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR OTHER D, DEMAGOGRY THAT WE SEE. LET ME GIVE THREE EXAMPLES. THE FACTS HAVE BEEN HID DEN FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AARP TALKED ABOUT ALL THE PLACES WHERE THE FESTD COULD TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE CUTTING TREADMILLS, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. AARP AND THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO CUT MEDICARE BY DESTROYING IT, LETTING IT GO BROKE. AN AD BY THE GENDER PROJECT, LIBERAL NONPROJECT GROUP SHOWS AN ELDERLY WOMEN BEING HEAVED OFF THE CLIFF AND ASKED, IS AMERICA BETTER WITHOUT MEDICARE, ASK PAUL RYAN AND HIS FRIENDS IN CONGRESS. THAT IS NOTHING BUT A LIE, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT SENIORS GET, AS DR. ROE SAID, A PROMISE MADE, A PROMISE KEPT. WE WANT TO SHORE UP MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY. WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN MEDICARE AND NOT DESTROY IT LIKE THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO DO. AND LET ME GIVE YOU A THIRD EXAMPLE. PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID IN A SPEECH AT GEORGE UNIVERSITY -- WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY LAST MONTH. IF THE VOUCH EVERY ISN'T WORTH ENOUGH TO BUY THE INSURANCE, THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE OPEN MARKETPLACE, TOUGH LUCK, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. IT ENDS MEDICARE AS WE KNOW IT. END QUOTE, PRESIDENT OBAMA. DEMAGOGRY. IT'S LIES. BALD FACED LIES DESIGNED TO TRY TO SCARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY SENIOR CITIZENS. WE ARE TRYING TO SHORE UP MEDICARE, WE ARE TRYING TO STRENGTHEN MEDICARE FROM GOING BROKE BUT THE REID, PELOSI, OBAMACARE IS TO DELAY, DESTROY IT AND DEMAGOG IT.

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  • 09:29:00 PM

    MR. GINGREY

    SAID EARLIER, THE KINDEST THING I CAN SAY, IT IS DISINGENUOUS, STOP THE…

    SAID EARLIER, THE KINDEST THING I CAN SAY, IT IS DISINGENUOUS, STOP THE DEMOCRATS' PLAN TO END MEDICARE. THE MEDICARE CUT PLAN CREATED IN OBAMACARE THREATENS SENIORS TODAY AS WELL AS THOSE WHO WILL COME INTO THE PROGRAM TOMORROW. SO, COLLEAGUES, HOW DO WE STOP DEMOCRATS' MEDICARE CUT PLAN, BUT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT DR. ROE'S BILL AND MEDICARE REFORM SHOULD NOT RELY ON RESTRICTING BENEFITS AND ACCESS FOR SICK AND DISABLED SENIORS IN NEED. AS WE CONCLUDE TONIGHT, LET ME JUST SAY, COLLEAGUES, OPPOSE THE MEDICARE CUT BOARD. VISIT THE G.O.P. DOCTORS CAUCUS WEB SITE AND SIGN THE ONLINE OPPOSITION, OPPOSE THE DEMOCRATS' PLAN TO DESTROY MEDICARE. DOCTORS CAUCUS.GINGREY.HOUSE DTH GOV OR DOCTORS CAUCUS .MURPHY.HOUSE.GOV. I THANK MY LEADERSHIP TO BRING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO OUR COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE THE TRUE FACTS OF THIS CASE. WE HAVE A PLAN. THE PRESIDENT HAS NO PLAN AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:30:39 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR WOULD BE PLEASED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. GICK

  • 09:30:50 PM

    MR. BROUN

    HOUSE DO NOW ADJOURN.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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115th Congress - House
Total Hours: 1482 (After 657 days)
  • Debate689 Hours
  • Special Orders287 Hours
  • Votes231 Hours
  • One Minute Speeches120 Hours
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