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House Session - July 26, 2011
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  • 10:01:59 AM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THERE IS AN ERR OF UNREALITY HERE ON CAPITOL HILL.…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THERE IS AN ERR OF UNREALITY HERE ON CAPITOL HILL. THERE IS SOME PEOPLE WITH NO EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT, LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND LESS REGARD ABOUT THE OUTCOMES WHO ARE PONTIFICATING, LECTURING, THREATENING. THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE RHETORIC, THE REALITY BETWEEN GOVERNANCE AND AN IDEOLOGICAL AGENDA IS IN LARGE PART WHY WE ARE IN THE CONUNDRUM WE ARE IN TODAY WITH THE DEBT CEILING, SOMETHING THAT HAS ROUTINELY BEEN INCREASED YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR DECADES. IT WAS ON FULL DISPLAY IN THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED HOUSE YESTERDAY AS WE DEBATED THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATION BILL. NOW, REMEMBER LAST WOKE, REPUBLICANS TOOK TO THE FLOOR WITH A SO-CALLED CUT, CAP AND BALANCE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS THEIR ANSWER GOING FORWARD WITH THE ECONOMY. IT WOULD REQUIRE, IMPOSE AN 18% LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF SPENDING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD EMPLOY IN ANY ONE YEAR. NOW, REMEMBER THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS. RONALD REAGAN NEVER PROPOSED A BUDGET THAT WAS EVEN 21% OF GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, SO IT'S A DRAMATIC REDUCTION, MORE THAN 14% LESS THAN ANYTHING RONALD REAGAN EVER PROPOSED. WELL, YESTERDAY IN THE DEBATE MY COLLEAGUE FROM KANSAS OFFERED AN AMENDMENT, AN AMENDMENT THAT I PERSONALLY FOUND DESTRUCTIVE AND UNBALANCED, THAT WOULD HAVE DONE TERRIBLE THINGS, SINGLING OUT FOR ELIMINATION THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ART, THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES, CUTTING FISH AND WILDLIFE, CONSTRUCTION AND ACQUISITION OF LAND IT WOULD BE A 30% REDUCTION IN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. OVERALL IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN 11% REDUCTION. BUT AT LEAST IT WAS HONEST. THIS IS WHERE IN FACT SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WANT TO GO. IN FACT, IT IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE IMPOSED WITH THEIR PROPOSAL THE WEEK BEFORE. AS I ARGUED AGAINST IT ON THE FLOOR, I PREDICTED IT WOULD FAIL OVERWHELMINGLY, THAT MOST REPUBLICANS WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE WILLING TO MAKE RECKLESS PROPOSALS, DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY, IF THE ONLY CONSEQUENCES ARE POLLS AND POLITICS, WHEN IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO BASICS EVEN THEY DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE IT. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE WHEN WE WERE DEBATING REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC ALTERNATIVES TO THE BUDGET. THE REPUBLICAN STUDY GROUP OFFERED UP THEIR PROPOSAL THAT WENT EVEN FURTHER THAN MY FRIEND, PAUL RYAN'S, AND WHEN IT WAS PASSING WE WATCHED REPUBLICANS START TO TWIST ARMS TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETHING THEY THOUGHT WAS GREAT POLITICS IN THEATER, BUT IF IT BECAME CLOSER TO REALITY THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD HURT THEM IF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD THE REAL AGENDA. WELL, WE'RE NOW IN A VERY SERIOUS STAGE DEALING WITH THE DEBT CEILING. ACTIONS MATTER. TOO MANY ARE STILL ACTING LIKE THEY'RE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL OR AT A TEA PARTY RALLY OR ON A FOX TV SHOW SHOUT FEST. THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FROM THE RECKLESS ACTION HOLDING THE DEBT CEILING HOSTAGE. AMERICAN BUSINESSES ARE PAYING MORE. THERE ARE THREATS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IN THE INTERNATIONAL BOND MARKET. IT'S PAST TIME THAT WE STOP THIS DANGEROUS POSTURING. THERE IS ENOUGH RESPONSIBILITY DISPLAY TO AVOID PUTTING THE RHETORIC IN EFFECT INTO A BUDGET. NOW IS THE TIME TO STOP PLAYING GAMES ON THE BUDGET DEFICIT. WE'VE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE. THE LAST TIME THE REPUBLICANS TOOK CONTROL IN 1995 THERE WAS A DEBATE ON LIFTING THE DEBT CEILING. EXCUSE ME, IMPOSING A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. IT FAILED BY ONE VOTE IN THE SENATE, AND IT FAILED WITH THE SINGLE REPUBLICAN NO VOTE, MARK CAPFIELD FROM OREGON. SENATOR HATFIELD STOOD UP AND HE MADE CLEAR HE WAS ALL IN FAVOR OF BALANCING THE BUDGET BUT NOT WITH A GIMMICK LONG INTO THE FUTURE. HE WAS CHAIR OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. HE INVITED HIS COLLEAGUES TO MAKE THE ACTION BY REDUCING THE BUDGET, NOT PLAYING GAMES WITH GIMMICKS.

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  • 10:07:22 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. POE, FOR…

    THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. POE, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:07:27 AM

    MR. POE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY IS THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S ENERGY PLAN. THE KEYSTONE EXCELL PIPELINE PROJECT WOULD BRING 700,000 BARRELS OF OIL TODAY FROM ALBERTA, CANADA, TO REFINERIES IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS. THIS WOULD PROVIDE MORE ENERGY FOR AMERICA. THE PRESIDENT HAS HAD OVER TWO YEARS TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, BUT THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE E.P.A. AND OUT-OF-TOWNERS HAVE STONE WALLED THE PROJECT ON ALLEGED ENVIRONMENTAL GROUNDS. PIPELINES ARE THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE AND MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND WAY TO TRANSPORT OIL AND NATURAL GAS. OIL MUST REACH OUR REFINERIES SOMEHOW. WE CAN EITHER IMPORT OIL THROUGH A SAFE, RELIABLE PIPELINE FROM OUR NEIGHBORS OR ON RISKY TANKERS COMING FROM UNSTABLE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. EVEN THE E.P.A. SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT AFTER TWO YEARS OF DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. OUR NEIGHBORS IN CANADA HAVE DEVELOPED A SAFE WAY TO OBTAIN CRUDE OIL FROM THEIR OIL SANDS. UNLIKE MANY OF THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, THE CANADIANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN CRUDE OIL PRODUCTION. THEY WILL SELL US THEIR CRUDE OIL. IT WILL BE PIPED THROUGH REFINERIES IN MY DISTRICT IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS AND WILL BE REFINED INTO ENERGY AND BYPRODUCTS OF CRUDE OIL AND IT WILL CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA. IF THE WHITE HOUSE FAILS TO ACT, THE CANADIANS WILL TAKE THEIR OIL SOMEPLACE ELSE. THE CHINESE ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING THAT OIL, SO IT'S GOING TO BE USED AND IT WILL GO TO CHINA. WHY NOT LET IT COME TO AMERICA? SOME ENVIRONMENTAL EXTREMISTS ARE BEGINS THE PROJECT. OF COURSE THEY ARE. THEY ARE AGAINST EVERY TIME OF ENERGY THAT COMES FROM BELOW THE GROUND, BUT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS FOR OUR ENERGY NEEDS. THEY SAY THEY WANT GREEN ENERGY. WELL, I DO TOO, BUT THERE ISN'T SUFFICIENT GREEN ENERGY YET TO RUN AMERICA. SO THEY ARE AGAINST EVERYTHING IT SEEMS EXCEPT THOSE CURLY C.F.L. LIGHT BULBS THAT COME FROM CHINA. THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THOSE. THE RADICALS ARE AGAINST NUCLEAR ENERGY BECAUSE, WELL, THE JAPANESE HAD AN EARTHQUAKE THAT CAUSED REACTORS TO OVERHEAT. SO NO MORE NUCLEAR ENERGY. THEY'RE AGAINST NATURAL GAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE FRACKING EVEN THOUGH SAFE FRACKING HAS BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES, AND THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT FRACKING DOES. THEY DON'T WANT AMERICA TO USE COAL EVEN THOUGH OUR RESOURCES ARE ABUNDANT AND NEW TECHNOLOGY HAS MADE CLEAN COAL SAFER AND MORE EFFICIENT. THEY DON'T EVEN LIKE THE WIND TURBINES BECAUSE RUNNING TURBINES AT NIGHT IN WEST TEXAS MAY BOTHER THE FLIGHT PATTERN OF THE BATS. THEY DON'T WANT MORE OFFSHORE DRILLING. CERTAINLY CAN'T HAVE THAT. AND, OF COURSE, THEY ARE AGAINST DOMESTIC CRUDE OIL ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HATE AMERICAN OIL COMPANIES. SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? WELL, THE WHITE HOUSE PLAN THAT HAS ONLY BEEN OFFERED IS TO GIVE AMERICAN MONEY TO BRAZIL SO BRAZIL CAN DRILL OFF ITS SHORES AND THEN AMERICA WILL BUY THEIR CRUDE OIL. BUT NO MORE OFFSHORE DRILLING FOR US, IT SEEMS. IF WE'RE GOING TO BUY CRUDE OIL FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES, LET'S BUY IT FROM OUR NEIGHBOR, OUR ALLY, CANADA. OR THE PROGRESSIVES PREFER WE KEEP BUYING OIL FROM DICTATORS LIKE CHAVEZ IN VENEZUELA OR KEPT HOSTAGE BY OPEC AND MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES OR DO THEY WANT US TO DO WITHOUT ENERGY ALTOGETHER? MEANWHILE, GASOLINE IS AROUND $4 A GALLON. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE PROGRESSIVES IF THEY GET THEIR WAY WILL HAVE NO ENERGY SELF-RELIANCE AND WE'LL REGRESS AND GO BACK TO THE HORSE AND BUGGY DAYS. BUT, WHOA. WAIT A MINUTE, MR. SPEAKER. WE CAN'T GO BACK TO USING HORSES BUT A THEY, TOO, CAUSE POLLUTION. MR. PRESIDENT, APPROVE THE PIPELINE. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP. TIME TO START MAKING PROGRESS ON TAKING CARE OF AMERICA'S ENERGY NEEDS, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:11:33 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:11:43 AM

    MR. QUIGLEY

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FELLOW CITIZENS, WE CANNOT ESCAPE HISTORY. WE OF…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FELLOW CITIZENS, WE CANNOT ESCAPE HISTORY. WE OF THIS CONGRESS AND THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL BE REMEMBERED IN SPITE OF OURSELVES. NO PERSONAL SIGNIFICANCE OR INCISION SHALL SPARE ONE OR ANOTHER OF US. THE FIERY TRIAL THROUGH WHICH WE PASS WILL WRITE US DOWN IN EITHER HONOR OR DISHONOR TO THE LATEST GENERATION. EVEN WE HERE HOLD THE POWER AND BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY. WE SHALL NOBLY SAVE OR LOSE THE LAST BEST HOPE OF EARTH. LINCOLN, OF COURSE, WAS TALKING ABOUT A STATE OF THE NATION IN PERIL ON DECEMBER 1 IN HIS ADDRESS TO CONGRESS IN 1862. BUT IF THIS NATION HAD NOT THIS KIND OF LEADERSHIP OF THAT MAGNITUDE, WHO KNOWS WHERE WE WOULD BE TODAY. THEY FACED TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES, AND YET STILL HAD THE EXTRAORDINARY FORESIGHT AND FORTITUDE TO CHARGE AHEAD. TODAY WE, TOO, FACE CONSEQUENCES. WE FACE CONSEQUENCES OF INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC IMPACT, ENVIRONMENT AND ECOLOGICAL DESTRUCTION. WE CONSIDER THIS WEEK, OF COURSE, A DEBT LIMIT CRISIS THAT HAS BROUGHT OUT THE BEST AND WORST AMONGST MEN AND WOMEN I RESPECT BOTH HERE ON THIS HOUSE FLOOR AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS CAPITOL BUILDING AND ON CABLE NEWS STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE ALSO CONSIDERING HERE IN THIS HOUSE AN INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT SIMPLY SAYS TO OUR CHILDREN, YOU CLEAN IT UP, WE DON'T CARE TO BEAR THE BURDEN. THIS BILL DOES IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO OUR PROGRAMS THAT KEEPS OUR AIR CLEAN, OUR WATER DRINKABLE AND THAT PROTECT OUR NATIONAL AND NATURAL HERITAGE. THESE ARE NOT DOLLARS SPENT WITHOUT THOUGHT NOR ARE THEY INVESTMENTS OF A TRIVIAL NATURE AS SOME WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE. SIMPLY PUT, THESE ARE SCIENCE-BASED PRAGMATIC INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC HEALTH. THESE CUTS, I'M TOLD, WILL NOT SAVE THE COUNTRY A PENNY. THE POLICY RIDERS INCLUDED IN THIS BILL WILL COST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES. THE BILL WILL EXPOSE OUR CHILDREN, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY WILL DEGRADE OUR IRREPLACEABLE NATURAL RESOURCES BUT THIS WEEK WE'RE NOT STOPPING AT A DEBT CEILING QUAGMIRE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONTINUE A MEASURE THAT WOULD DEEM CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL FOR THE KEYSTONE EXCEL TAR SANDS PIPELINE. THE KEYSTONE SYSTEM WILL FLOW FROM ALBERTA DOWN TO THE GULF COAST THREATING THE AQUIFER, THE MAIN DRINKING WATER SOURCE FOR THE MID WEST. YOU CAN IGNORE THAT THE KEYSTONE LEAK, SPILLING FROM THE AQUIFER FROM THE PROPOSED EXPANDED PIPELINE. YOU CAN IGNORE ONE PIPELINE INTO THE YELLOW STONE RIVER IN MONTANA EARLIER THIS MONTH UNDER WHICH KEYSTONE EXCEL WOULD ALSO RUN. AND THEN IGNORE THAT IT POLLUTES WATER SOURCES AND HARMS THE PROPOSED REGION'S BORIAL FOREST. AND YOU CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY OF TRANS-CANADA OFFICIALS TO CANADIAN REGULATORS INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE PIPELINE WOULD DRIVE GASOLINE PRICES IN THE MID WEST HIGHER, NOT LOWER. BUT LET'S FORGET ALL THAT. ON PROCEDURAL VOTE, THIS CONGRESSIONAL CONSIDERATION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE IS UNNECESSARY AND UNPRECEDENTED, POTENTIALLY NEGATIVELY AFFECTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND SAFETY. THIS PROPOSED PIPELINE NEEDS NO CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. . IT NEED NOT BE APPROVED AT ALL. ITS STRONG CRITICISM FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY WHO SUGGESTED THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONSIDER HOW CONSTRUCTION WOULD AFFECT WETLANDS, MY GRATORY BIRDS, AND COMMUELINGTS -- MIGRATORY BIRDS, AND THE COMMUNITY THROUGH WHICH IT PASSES. WE STAND HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER AN ENVIRONMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED THE WORST WE HAVE EVER SEEN. AND WE STAND HERE TODAY WHILE EVERYONE AROUND US FIGHTS AGAINST THE COMPROMISE THAT MIGHT KEEP OUR STANDING IN THE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMY FROM DIPPING FURTHER THAN WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT FALL. INDEED, WE CANNOT ESCAPE HISTORY. WE HOLD THE POWER AND BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY. WE SHALL NOBLY SAVE OR LOSE THE LAST BEST HOPE OF EARTH. PRESIDENT LINCOLN, TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN. THANK YOU, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:16:30 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. CHU, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:16:38 AM

    MS. CHU

    FOR SO MANY, EDUCATION IS THE KEY TO THE AMERICAN DREAM. BUT FOR SO MANY A…

    FOR SO MANY, EDUCATION IS THE KEY TO THE AMERICAN DREAM. BUT FOR SO MANY A GOOD EDUCATION SEEMS LIKE IT IS BEYOND REACH. THAT IS WHY I AM INTRODUCING THE DIPLOMA ACT, OR DEVELOPING INNOVATIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MOTIVATE ACHIEVEMENT. THIS LEGISLATION WILL ADDRESS OBSTACLES TO LEARNING BY GIVING OUT GRANTS TO SCHOOLS, SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS, AND LOCAL COMMUNITY TO CREATE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY-BASED SOLUTIONS THAT WILL ENSURE THAT OUR STRUGGLING STUDENTS WILL SUCCEED. FOR A WHILE NOW, I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR CHANGING THE TONE OF THE DEBATE THAT SURROUNDS SCHOOL REFORM. TOO OFTEN CRITICS POINT FINGERS INSTEAD OF OFFERING SOLUTIONS. THAT IS WHY I'M PUSHING FOR REAL CHANGE, DRAMATIC CHANGE IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT HARNESSES THE ENERGY OF PARENTS, THE COMMUNITY, AND THE SCHOOL TO TURN AROUND OUR FAILING SCHOOLS THAT LIFT UP ALL OUR STUDENTS. NOW, THERE'S NO DENYING THAT THIS APPROACH CAN BE CHALLENGING AND HARD WORK. BUT RESEARCH SHOWS WHEN COMMUNITIES, PARENTS, AND SCHOOLS COLLABORATE AND WORK TOGETHER, THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN'T ACHIEVE. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND IN MY DISTRICT. IN EAST LOS ANGELES AT A HIGH SCHOOL IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY SCHOOL. IT'S THE FIRST NEW SCHOOL BUILT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN 85 YEARS, AND ITS FACILITIES AND CLASSROOMS ARE SIMPLY MAGNIFICENT. BUT TO ME THE MOST AWE INSPIRING PART IS THE COMMUNITY-BASED APPROACH AT THE HEART OF IT. WITH THE HELP OF THE LOS ANGELES EDUCATION PARTNERSHIP, THE FEDERAL AND FULL SERVICE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS GRANT PROGRAM, THEY TAPPED INTO THE RESOURCES OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY TO OVERCOME CHALLENGES FACING THEIR STUDENTS REGARDING HEALTH CARE, LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY, AND FINANCIAL LITERACY. THEY PARTNERED FOR A FULL SERVICE HEALTH CENTER ON CAMPUS THAT WILL HELP MAINTAIN THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THEIR STUDENTS SO THEY ARE READY AND ABLE TO LEARN. PAN AMERICAN BANK, PARTNER TO HELP THE HIGH SCHOOLERS TO TEACH THE IMPORTANCE OF A BUDGET AND PROPER MONEY MANAGEMENT, SKILLS WHICH WILL STICK WITH THE STUDENTS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. LUIS RODRIGUEZ JOINED THE EFFORT TO ESTABLISH THE FIRST EVER BOOKSTORE IN EAST LOS ANGELES, MAKING IT EASIER FOR STUDENTS TO EXPAND THEIR EDUCATION OUTSIDE THEIR CLASSROOM. AND THE EFFECT OF THESE PROGRAMS IS APPARENT ON THE SMILES OF THE STUDENTS' FACES ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL AND THE CAFETERIA AND THE CLASSROOM. THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT IS GIVING STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND OPENING THEIR WORLD. ACROSS AMERICA, OUR STUDENTS FACE PROBLEMS LIKE HOMELESSNESS, LACK OF HEALTH CARE, AND LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY. RESEARCH TELLS US THAT 2/3 OF THE ACHEE. FOR FACTORS ARE OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL AND EVEN THE BEST TEACHERS HAVE AN HARD TIME OVERCOMING THESE OBSTACLES. A RECREPT STUDY FROM CHICAGO FOUND WHEN WE DON'T ADDRESS STUDENTS' SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGES OUTSIDE SCHOOLS, THE HARD WORK DONE INSIDE THE SCHOOL CAN BE FUTILE. THAT'S WHY THE DIPLOMA ACT IS SO NECESSARY. LOCAL GROUPS CAN COORDINATE, INTEGRATE, AND FACILITATE SERVICES AIMED AT STRENGTHENING STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT SUCH AS DROP OUTPREVENTION, FAMILY ENGAGEMENT, TUTORING, EXTENDING LEARNING SERVICES, HEALTH CARE, AND SOCIAL SUPPORT. AND THE BILL CONTAINS STRONG ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES, INCLUDING INDEPENDENT EVALUATIONS TO MEASURE RESULTS AND IDENTIFY BEST PRACTICES. THESE PARTNERSHIPS WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF STUDENTS IN MY DISTRICT. WHEN STUDENTS ARE PROVIDED THE RIGHT KIND OF SUPPORT AND OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP THEM LEARN, NOTHING CAN STOP THEM. THE DIPLOMA ACT ENSURES THAT AMERICA'S NEXT NOBEL PRIZE LAUREATE CAN COME FROM ANY BACKGROUND OR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THEY NEEDED TO SUCCEED.

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  • 10:21:01 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA, MS. FOXX, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:21:07 AM

    MS. FOXX

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IS PRESIDENT OBAMA REALLY PUSHING TO…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, IS PRESIDENT OBAMA REALLY PUSHING TO RAISE TAXES WHILE UNEMPLOYMENT HOVERS AROUND 9%? JUST TO GET AN INCREASE IN THE DEBT LIMIT? REPUBLICANS BEG TO DISAGREE. INCREASING TAXES ON AMERICAN JOB CREATORS AND FAMILIES WILL MEAN FEWER NEW JOBS ARE CREATED, WHICH WILL RESULT IN MORE AMERICANS REMAINING UNEMPLOYED. WASHINGTON DOES NOT NEED TAX HIKES TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. WASHINGTON NEEDS SPENDING CUTS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ADDICTED TO TAXPAYER MONEY. THE SOLUTION IS NOT GIVING IT MORE OF AMERICANS' HARD-EARNED MONEY. NO, THE SOLUTION IS TO HALT THE RUN AWAY SPENDING AND PERMANENTLY REFORM WASHINGTON'S RECKLESS SPENDING HABITS. WE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM AND PAY OUR BILLS ON TIME, MR. SPEAKER. HOWEVER, REFUSING TO CUT SPENDING AND GOING WITH THE STATUS QUO TAX HIKES WOULD BE A RECIPE FOR DISASTER THAT WILL ROB FUTURE GENERATIONS OF A CHANCE TO FULLY THE AMERICAN DREAM. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:22:24 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. DEFAZIO, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:22:37 AM

    MR. DEFAZIO

    IT'S CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT CONGRESS, ESPECIALLY THE SENATE, IS…

    IT'S CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT CONGRESS, ESPECIALLY THE SENATE, IS VERY GOOD AT DOING ONE THING. AND THAT IS NOTHING. NOW, PERHAPS WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON THIS STRENGTH TO RESOLVE THE IMPASSE OVER THE DEFICIT REDUCTION. HOW COULD THAT WORK? HOW COULD CONGRESS DO NOTHING BUT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? WITHIN 17 MONTHS BY DOING NOTHING WE COULD LOWER THE KEFFS -- DEFICIT BY $3.8 TRILLION. AND IN FACT THE PRESIDENT COULD REINFORCE THE MESSAGE JUST IN CASE CONGRESS DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING, HE COULD SAY, NO, IF THEY DO THAT I WILL POCKET VETO IT. I WILL DO NOTHING. SO WE GOT A GOOD CHANCE HERE. CONGRESS DOES NOTHING OR THE PRESIDENT POCKET VETOES, HE DOES NOTHING. WE COULD SAVE $3.8 TRILLION. PROBLEM SOLVED. HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE ALLOW ALL THE BUSH TAX CUTS TO EXPIRE. YOU HEARD THE GENTLELADY, THE JOB CREATORS WILL PAY MORE. YOU HAVE THE BILLIONAIRE HEDGE FUND GUYS ON WALL STREET MIGHT PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TAXES. THEY ARE CREATING SO MANY JOBS TODAY. AND THE OTHER MILLIONAIRES, WARREN BUFFETT SAYS ITS IRONIC HE PAYS A MUCH LOWER TAX RATE THAN HIS SECRETARY. NOW, IF WE LET THE BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE, AND ADOPTED SOME MODEST REFORMS, THOSE INEQUITIES WOULD NO LONGER BE IN PLACE AND WE COULD HAVE OVER $4 TRILLION OF DEFICIT REDUCTION WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SHARED SACRIFICE. AND YES, IT WOULD ASK THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES TO PAY AS MUCH AS THEY DID IN THE CLINTON ERA. AN ERA WHEN WE HAD 3.8% UNEMPLOYMENT, WE ACTUALLY PAID DOWN DEBT IN THIS COUNTRY. IT WAS GOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS. AND WE ASK THOSE WHO ARE MOST CAPABLE TO CONTRIBUTE THE MOST, BUT WE ASKED A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOING NOTHING WOULD DO. NOW, AFTER WE HAVE RESTORED SOME CONFIDENCE HERE BY THIS BIG STEP OF DOING NOTHING, WE COULD DO ANOTHER HALF OF NOTHING AND PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. NOW, HOW COULD WE DO HALF OF NOTHING AND PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK? PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS ADOPTED THIS COCKAMAMIE REPUBLICAN IDEA OF A SOCIAL SECURITY TAX HOLIDAY PUTTING PEOPLE TO WORK. I KNOW A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT COULD USE AN EXTRA 20 BUCKS A WEEK, BUT THEM SPENDING 20 BUCKS A WEEK FOR FOOD ON THE TAPE TABLE, DOESN'T PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. IF YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED, YOU DON'T GET THE 20 BUCKS. WE ARE BORROWING $120 BILLION TO DO THAT UNDER THE GUISE THIS IS CREATING JOBS. AND THE PRESIDENT LAST NIGHT MENTIONED HE WANTS TO CREATE JOBS. GUESS WHAT? IT'S NOT WORKING. WE DO HALF A NOTHING. WE ALLOW THE SOCIAL SECURITY TAX HOLIDAY TO EXPIRE. DOESN'T CREATE ANY JOBS. WE DON'T BORROW THE $110 BILLION FROM CHINA TO PUT IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND. INSTEAD, WE BORROW $110 BILLION TO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK IN PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS. WE RESOLVE TO BEGIN TO REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE. $110 BILLION APPLIED TO THE 150,000 BRIDGES FALLING DOWN. THE $80 BILLION BACKLOG ON OUR TRANSIT VEHICLES. THE PAVEMENT THAT'S DISINTEGRATING ACROSS THE COUNTRY COULD PUT MILLIONS TO WORK AND NOT JUST CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, ENGINEERS WOULD GO TO WORK. PEOPLE WHO MANUFACTURE THINGS, STEEL, BUSES, TIRES, ENGINES. ALL THOSE PEOPLE WOULD GO TO WORK. WE COULD PUT MILLIONS TO WORK. GESS GUESS WHAT THAT DOES? WHEN-D -- GUESS WHAT THAT DOES? WHEN PEOPLE GO TO WORK, THEY DON'T COLLECT UNEMPLOYMENT, THEY PAY TAXES, THEY DON'T NEED FOOD STAMM NTS, THAT REDUCES THE DEFICIT, TOO. BY DOING ONE BIG NOTHING AND ONE HALF A NOTHING, AND THEN ONE LITTLE ACTION TO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, NOTHING THAT ANYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT AROUND HERE,, WHERE ARE THE JOBS? WHO IS TALKING ABOUT JOBS? WE NEED JOBS. LET'S STOP BLATHERING AROUND HERE, LET'S RESOLVE TO DO NOTHING AND RESOLVE THE DEBT CRISIS AND RESOLVE TO DO HALF A NOTHING AND APPLY THE MONEY WE SAVE BY DOING THAT. NOTHING TO PUTTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. THAT'S AN AGENDA. LITTLE MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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  • 10:26:37 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. DUNCAN, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:26:43 AM

    MR. DUNCAN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO COVER TWO OR THREE THINGS VERY BRIEFLY…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO COVER TWO OR THREE THINGS VERY BRIEFLY HERE THIS MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, "THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTED ON ITS FRONT PAGE YESTERDAY THAT, QUOTE, U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY HAS BEEN INDIRECTLY FUNNELED TO THE TALIBAN UNDER A $2.16 BILLION, A $2 BILLION TRANSPORTATION CONTRACT. THIS IS CRAZY. IT SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE JOB OF THE U.S. MILITARY TO PROMOTE AFGHAN BUSINESSES. THIS REPORT FOUND, QUOTE, DOCUMENTED CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF INVOLVEMENT IN A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE OF SUPPORT FOR THE ENEMY, UNQUOTE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. AND IT COMES ON THE HEELS OF A REPORT LAST WEEK THAT THE NAVY HAS SPENT AT LEAST $300 MILLION, AT LEAST $300 MILLION, ON TWO SHIPS THAT WERE NEVER COMPLETED, NEVER SENT ON A MISSION, AND ARE NOW HEADED FOR A SALVAGE YARD IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS. ARE THERE NO FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AT THE PENTAGON? AND SADLY, MOST PEOPLE IN CONGRESS TODAY ARE AFRAID TO CUT THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT FOR FEAR THEY WILL APPEAR TO BE UNPATRIOTIC. AND YET IT SEEMS TO ME, MR. SPEAKER, THAT IT'S UNPATRIOTIC TO CONTINUE WITH MEGABILLIONS AND WASTEFUL SPENDING, OR BILLIONS IN SPENDING THAT PROMOTE BUSINESSES IN OTHER COUNTRIES. NO PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE IMMUNE FROM HAVING TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD BE FAR BETTER OFF TODAY IF EVERY DEPARTMENT AND AGENCY HAD TO TAKE A CARE ACROSS-THE-BOARD 10% CUT. LET ME MENTION A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. WE ARE GOING TO VOTE LATER TODAY ON THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE PROJECT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL PROVIDE 20,000 JOBS, AND ALSO WILL LEAD TO 500,000 GALLONS OF GASOLINE COMING INTO -- GALLONS OF OIL COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY EACH DAY. THIS WILL HELP BRING DOWN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE. AND YET IT IS OPPOSED BY VERY POWERFUL GROUP OF WEALTHY ENVIRONMENTAL ELITISTS. MOST OF THESE ENVIRONMENTALISTS TODAY SEEM TO COME FROM VERY UPPER INCOME OR VERY WEALTHY FAMILIES. AND PERHAPS THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH THEY HURT THE POOR IN THE LOWER INCOME AND WORKING PEOPLE BY DESTROYING JOBS AND DRIVING UP PRICES, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING. AND THEY ARE CERTAINLY DOING THAT AND BLOCKING OR DELAYING THIS KEYSTONE PIPELINE PROJECT. WE ALSO -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT MORE JOBS ARE CREATED IN THIS COUNTRY IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. JUST TODAY IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" THERE IS A POLL THAT SAYS THAT 49% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND JOBS, AND 33% SAY SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT. 82% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY TODAY. AND YET WE CONTINUE TO CAVE IN TO ENVIRONMENTAL RADICALS AND DESTROY JOBS AND REALLY JUST DO NOTHING OTHER THAN HELP FOREIGN ENERGY PRODUCERS. SO I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE START DECIDING -- SIDING WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND STOP SIDING WITH FOREIGN ENERGY PRODUCERS. LASTLY LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE FALSEST THING THAT IS SAID DURING THE DEBATE OF THE DEBT CEILING IS SOME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HELP BILLIONAIRES OR MULTIMILLIONAIRES. NO ONE IS TRYING TO HELP THE BILLIONAIRES. THEY CAN HELP THEMSELVES. WHAT THE DEBATE IS ABOUT IS DO YOU WANT THE MONEY SPENT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY WILL SPEND IT WITHOUT ANY QUESTION IN THE MOST WASTEFUL, LEAST EFFECTIVE, LEAST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE, OR DO YOU WANT THE MONEY TO BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE IT WILL DO MORE TO CREATE JOBS AND HOLD DOWN COSTS? IF -- AND HOLD DOWN PRICES? IF THAT INTERWASN'T TRUE THE SOVIET UNION OR CUBA WOULD HAVE BEEN HETCH ON EARTH BECAUSE IN THOSE COUNTRIES THE GOVERNMENT TOOK ALMOST ALL THE MONEY. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT PROTECTING BILLIONAIRES, NOT IN THE LEAST. . THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. .

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WOOLSEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:31:03 AM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    SPEAKER, LAST WEEK GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS RELINQUISH AFGHAN GENERAL…

    SPEAKER, LAST WEEK GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS RELINQUISH AFGHAN GENERAL COMMAND. HE DID THIS AS HE PREPARED TO TAKE OVER AS C.I.A. DIRECTOR THIS FALL. WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL TO GENERAL PETRAEUS FOR 37 YEARS OF HONORABLE AND DISTINGUISHED SERVICE, BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL REALITIES IN AFGHANISTAN HAVEN'T CHANGED. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" PUT IT PLAINLY, NOTING THAT THE GENERAL IS, AND I QUOTE THEM, "THE GENERAL IS LEAVING BEHIND A COUNTRY RACKED BY DEEP POLITICAL INSTABILITY WHOSE FLEDGING SECURITY FORCES ARE FIGHTING A WEAKENED BUT DEADLY INSURGENCY THAT KILLS COALITION TROOPS AND AFGHAN CIVILIANS AND OFFICIALS NEARLY EVERY DAY." THAT'S A PRETTY DAMNING ASSESSMENT, MR. SPEAKER, AND IT'S ACCURATE. IN RECENT WEEKS TWO OF PRESIDENT KARZAI'S MOST POWERFUL ALLIES, INCLUDING HIS BROTHER, HAVE BEEN GUNNED DOWN BY THE TALIBAN. AND ORDINARY AFGHAN CITIZENS ARE CAUGHT IN THE LINE OF FIRE AS NEVER, NEVER BEFORE. THE U.N. RECENTLY REPORTED THAT MORE AFGHAN CIVILIANS WERE KILLED IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2011 THAN IN ANY OTHER SIX-MONTH PERIOD SINCE THE WAR BEGAN. SOME THESE CASUALTIES ARE THE ACCIDENTAL RESULT OF ERRANT ATTACKS AND NIGHT RAIDS BY U.S. AND NATO FORCES. BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF CIVILIAN DEATHS CAME AT THE HANDS OF INSURGENTS OFTEN USING SUICIDE BOMBERS. THERE WERE NEARLY 1,500 CIVILIAN DEATHS BETWEEN JANUARY AND JUNE, BUT ACCORDING TO THE U.N. THAT MIGHT BE A LOW ESTIMATE GIVEN IT DOESN'T INCLUDE KILLINGS IN NORTHERN AFGHANISTAN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS BECAUSE THE U.N. CLOSED THEIR OFFICE IN THAT REGION AFTER IT WAS ATTACKED BY A MOB THAT KILLED SEVERAL STAFFERS. IT'S CLEAR, MR. SPEAKER, THAT AFTER NEARLY A DECADE OF WAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO VANQUISH THE ENEMY AND BRING STABILITY AND SECURITY TO AFGHANISTAN. IF AFTER 10 YEARS WE CAN'T DO MORE TO SUBDUE THE INSURGENCY THEN CLEARLY, CLEARLY WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. CLEARLY THERE MUST BE A BETTER APPROACH. I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THAT NEW APPROACH FOR MANY YEARS NOW. IT'S CALLED SMART SECURITY AND IT'S BASED ON THE BELIEF THAT SENDING 100,000 TROOPS TO OCCUPY A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO WIN TRUST AND TO PROMOTE PEACE. AND WHICH HAS PROVEN TO FAN THE FLAMES OF RESENTMENT, TO GIVE INCREASED MOMENTUM TO EXTREMISTS AND TO PUT LIVES OF AMERICAN TROOPS AND AFGHAN CIVILIANS IN DANGER. WHAT WE NEED, MR. SPEAKER, IS AN AFGHANISTAN CIVILIAN SURGE AS BOLD AS THE MILITARY SURGE THAT HAS GOTTEN US FURTHER ENTANGLED IN THIS FAILED WAR. THAT'S WHAT SMART SECURITY IS ALL ABOUT. INSTEAD OF SENDING TROOPS, LET'S SEND HUMANITARIAN AID. LET'S SEND OUR CIVILIAN EXPERTS WHO CAN HELP REBUILD AFGHAN SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS, WHO CAN HELP -- AND I SAY HELP BECAUSE WE WANT THE AFGHANISTAN PEOPLE TO BE DOING THIS, BUT WE CAN HELP WHERE NECESSARY, WHO CAN HELP REBUILD THE POLITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND RULE OF LAW THAT WILL STRENGTHEN AFGHAN DEMOCRACY, WHO CAN PROMOTE POLITICAL RECONCILIATION AND PEACEFUL CONFLICT RESOLUTION. AS HE LEFT AFGHANISTAN, GENERAL PETRAEUS SAID, AND I QUOTE HIM, "WE SHOULD BE CLEAR ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AHEAD." HIS SUCCESSOR, GENERAL JOHN ALLEN, SAID, AND I QUOTE HIM, "I HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE WILL FACE TOGETHER," BUT I SAY, MR. SPEAKER, CONTINUING WITH THE CURRENT POLICY DEMONSTRATES THAT IN FACT WE ARE NOT BEING CLEAR EYED AT ALL, THAT WE ARE GRIPPED BY DANGEROUS ILLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT A MILITARY OCCUPATION CAN ACHIEVE. THIS STRATEGY HAS BEEN GIVEN US A CHANCE TO WORK FOR 10 YEARS. IT HASN'T WORKED. IT'S TIME FOR SOMETHING NEW. IT'S TIME FOR SMART SECURITY AND THE TIME TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. I YIELD BACK.

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    THANK YOU. THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THANK YOU. THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. TOWNS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:35:48 AM

    MR. TOWNS

    MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. THIS IS A SAD DAY IN AMERICA. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE…

    MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. THIS IS A SAD DAY IN AMERICA. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING THEIR BILLS AND EATING A DECENT MEAL. ALL I HEAR IS THAT WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM. WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM. WE HAVE A SPENDING -- WELL, I WANT TO BE SURE WE DON'T TRY TO SOLVE OUR SPENDING PROBLEM ON THE BACKS OF THE POOR, THE BACKS OF CHILDREN AND ON THE BACKS OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS. WE HAVE BEEN CUTTING SERVICES FOR THE POOR, CHILDREN AND SENIORS FOR YEARS. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORD AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS A FACT, AND IF YOU ADD UP ALL THE MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON CHILDREN AND SENIORS IT WOULD NOT BEGIN TO MAKE A DENT IN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT. WE SPEND LESS THAN 10% OF THE BUDGET ON CHILDREN. THAT MEANS WE ARE NOT SERIOUS LOW INVESTING IN THE FUTURE OF THIS NATION. WHEN WE CUT PROGRAMS LIKE W.I.C. WE ARE LITERALLY TAKING FOOD OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABIES, AND I SAY OUR PRIORITIES ARE CERTAINLY MISGUIDED OR UPSIDE DOWN. WHEN WE CUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM JUVENILE JUSTICE DELINQUENCY PROGRAMS, THEN WE BETTER GET READY TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON MORE PRISONS. AND WHEN WE CUT MEDICARE WE REALLY DO A DISSERVICE TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY. WHEN WE LOOK TO SAVE MONEY BY CUTTING MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY, SENIOR CITIZENS HAVE WORKED ALL OF THEIR LIVES PUTTING A GOOD PORTION OF THEIR PAYCHECK INTO A SYSTEM THAT PAID FOR THE WELL-BEING OF THEIR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS. IF THE TRUTH IS TO BE TOLD, TODAY'S SENIORS HAVE PAID MORE THAN $2.5 TRILLION EXTRA INTO SOCIAL SECURITY. SO THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE, AND HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKING CUTS. WHEN PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN SIGNED A LAW TO INCREASE THE PAYROLL TAX, IT WAS TO TAKE -- MAKE SURE SOCIAL SECURITY WOULD BE THERE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. BUT THE GOVERNMENT SPENT THE MONEY AND NOW WE WANT TO MAKE SENIORS PAY AGAIN. THAT IS WRONG. OUR SENIOR CITIZENS HAVE PAID ENORMOUS SUMS OF MONEY INTO MEDICARE, AND NOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENDING IT AS WE KNOW IT? CERTAINLY RISE IN HEALTH CARE COSTS IS CAUSING MEDICARE PROBLEMS, BUT WE CAN FIX THOSE PROBLEMS WITHOUT MAKING IT A VOUCHER PROGRAM. I CALL ON MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND THINK CLEARLY ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. CHILDREN AND SENIORS ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTRY. THEY ARE DEPENDING ON US TO USE SOUND JUDGMENT AND NOT BE SUEDE BY THE POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP. I STAND HERE THIS MORNING TO TELL YOU THAT I INTEND TO FIGHT FOR THE WELL-BEING OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, AND I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE WELL-BEING OF THEM. OF COURSE, WE NEED TO UNCUT, UNCAP AND GET SOME REAL BALANCE TO THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR SENIORS MUST BE PROTECTED, AND, OF COURSE, EVERY TIME I HEAR ONE OF OUR MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO CUT MEDICARE, WE NEED TO CUT W.I.C., WE NEED TO CUT -- AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STOP AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE DO THAT WE HAVE TO END UP CREATING OTHER THINGS AND WE DO NOT SAVE MONEY. ON THAT NOTE I YIELD BACK.

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    THANK YOU. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE…

    THANK YOU. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM OHIO, MS. KAPTUR, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:40:07 AM

    MS. KAPTUR

    MR. SPEAKER, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. KAPTUR

    TOO OFTEN CONGRESS AND WASHINGTON DEALS WITH SYMPTOMS, NOT UNDERLYING…

    TOO OFTEN CONGRESS AND WASHINGTON DEALS WITH SYMPTOMS, NOT UNDERLYING CAUSES, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS CURRENT DEBATE ABOUT THE DEBT LIMIT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU HAVE AN ILL PATIENT THAT HAS A FEVER AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SICK. THROW SOME WATER ON THE PATIENT AND THEIR FEVER WILL GO DOWN, BUT YOU NEVER DEAL WITH THE UNDERLYING INFECTION, THE UNDERLYING CAUSE THAT IS TRIPPING THE FEVER IN THE FIRST PLACE. LET ME PUT A LITTLE MATH ON THE TABLE HERE THIS MORNING AS WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CHALLENGE. WHEN YOU HAVE 14 MILLION AMERICANS OUT OF WORK AND UP TO 24 MILLION WHO ARE WORKING PART TIME OR THEY'VE COMPLETELY DROPPED OUT OF THE WORK FORCE, THEY'RE NOT EARNING A CHECK. MONEY'S NOT BEING TAKEN OUT OF THAT CHECK TO PAY FOR THEIR SOCIAL INSURANCE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. IT'S NOT GOING TO PAY THE REGULAR TAXES SO THE GOVERNMENT FALLS SHORT ON REVENUES. WE HAVE A JOBS PROBLEM. THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT UNDERLIES THE DEFICIT PROBLEM THAT WE FACE. NOW, IF YOU LOOKED AT JUST THIS YEAR ALONE, 2011, SO FAR THE GOVERNMENT'S TAKEN IN OVER $1,202,000,000,000 IN REVENUE. THAT'S NOT BAD FOR AN ECONOMY THAT'S LIMPING ALONG BUT WE SPENT $1.8 TRILLION SO WE'VE SPENT ALREADY THIS YEAR OVER $600 BILLION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE'VE HAD TO BORROW THAT MONEY, AND THAT GETS PUT ON THE LONG-TERM DEFICIT. BUT WHY DO WE HAVE THOSE COSTS THIS YEAR? WE HAVE THOSE COSTS BECAUSE THE REVENUES AREN'T COMING IN AT THE SAME RATE AS IN PRIOR YEARS WHEN YOU HAVE 14 MILLION TO 24 MILLION PEOPLE WHO WANT A BETTER JOB AND CAN'T GET ONE, THAT'S THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT WASHINGTON FAILS TO SEE OR ADDRESS. NOW, THE COST OF THAT UNEMPLOYMENT AND THE LACK OF REVENUES, YOU SAY, WELL, LOOK AT THIS HUGE ACCUMULATED DEBT WHICH IS OVER $14 TRILLION, BUT WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? LET ME OUTLINE THE REASONS. THE LARGEST SHARE, NOT ONLY OF THIS YEAR'S DEFICIT BUT OF PRIOR DEBT THAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED IS DUE TO A LAGGING ECONOMY. FAMILIES KNOW THIS. THEY CAN'T PAY AS MUCH IN TAXES OR ANY TAXES WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF WORK. AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF THE SLUGGISH ECONOMY CAUSED BY WALL STREET ABUSE, THAT'S WHAT THREW US INTO THIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT? BACK IN 2008. THE INCREASED COST OF UNEMPLOYMENT ARE STAGGERING. FIRST WE HAVE TO PAY THE UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS. SOME PEOPLE GOT 99 WEEKS OF UNEMPLOYMENT. THE COST OF FOOD FOR THOSE PEOPLE ARE ENORMOUS. WHEN THE ECONOMY ISN'T FUNCTIONING, THE COST OF MEDICAL CARE, THE COST OF MEDICAL CARE AND SO MANY ACROSS THIS COUNTRY SIMPLY CAN'T GET GOOD CARE. THAT'S ALL TIED INTO A VERY SLUGGISH ECONOMY. THE COST OF UNEMPLOYMENT ARE HUGE, AND THEN THE COST OF THE HOUSING MELTDOWN, ALL THE BAD MORTGAGES, FOUR OUT OF FIVE BAD MORTGAGES. DID WALL STREET TAKE CARE OF ITS DIRTY LAUNDRY? NO. THEY GAVE IT TO YOU, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AT THE F.H.A., THE FEDERAL HOUSING ADMINISTRATION, FANNIE MAE, FREDDIE MAC, THE VETERANS' ADMINISTRATION, GUESS WHO'S HOLDING ALL THE MORTGAGES UNDERWATER? 80% OF US. US. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES. NOT WALL STREET. DID THEY WRITE OFF ANY LOSSES, NO, NO, NO. THEY GAVE THEM TO US. THAT IS A HUGE AND GROWING PART OF THE FEDERAL DEFICIT. THEN, THERE'S $1 TRILLION THAT'S BEEN SPENT ON TWO WARS THAT'S NOT BEEN PAID FOR. THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF THE DEFICIT. WE CAN'T IGNORE THAT. DO WE SAY WE SHOULD HAVE A WAR TAX? DO WE SAY WE SHOULD END THE WAR? DO WE SAY OUR ALLIES SHOULD PAY MORE? THE POINT IS WE HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING EXCEPT PUT THAT $1 TRILLION ON THE DEFICIT. THEN, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUSH $1 TRILLION TAX GIVEAWAY TO THE VERY WEALTHY WHO SAID THAT IF WE GAVE THEM THE MONEY THEY WOULD CREATE JOBS IN OUR COUNTRY. GUESS WHAT, THEY TOOK THE MONEY AND THEY CREATED JOBS OFFSHORE. CORPORATE PROFITS ARE AT ALL-TIME HIGHS AND OUR JOBS INCREASING IN THIS COUNTRY? NO. THOSE CORPORATE PROFITS ARE DUE TO THE BOOKINGS OF THE FOREIGN PROFITS HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. SO YOU SAY TAX, GIVE THEM MORE TAX BREAKS, WHY? UNLESS THEY INVEST IN OUR COUNTRY IN JOB CREATION HERE. AND FINALLY, BUSH HAD THIS IDEA FOR PHARMACEUTICALS. DON'T LET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BARGAIN THE COST OF PHARMACEUTICALS IN MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. WHEN WE CAN'T DO THAT THAT ADDS BILLIONS, HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO OUR DEFICIT. MR. SPEAKER, WE OUGHT TO ADDRESS CAUSES, NOT SYMPTOMS. I YIELD BACK MY REMAINING TIME.

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. WOODALL, FOR FIVE MINUTES. .

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  • 10:45:43 AM

    MR. WOODALL

    I'M PLEASED TO COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY. I'M STILL A LITTLE WINDED. I WAS…

    I'M PLEASED TO COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY. I'M STILL A LITTLE WINDED. I WAS IN THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE. I'M EMBARRASSED MY FITNESS IS YOU SUCH A STATE RUNNING UP THE STAIRS WINDS ME BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T FOCUS ON SOMETHING, WHEN YOU DON'T PUT IN THE TIME IT TAKES TO STAY FIT, THINGS DEGRADE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR ECONOMY, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT FOLKS ARE OUT OF WORK AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT THE BEST FORM OF UNEMPLOYMENT RELIEF IS A PAYCHECK. IT'S NOT AN UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK, IT'S A PAYCHECK. WERE ARE THESE JOBS GOING OVERSEAS? THIS IS THE REAL DEBATE THAT HAPPENS UP HERE ABSOLUTELY EVERY DAY BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST BELIEVE DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT HOW IT IS THAT WE PUT AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO COMES TO THIS HOUSE FLOOR WANTS AMERICANS TO GO BACK TO WORK. WANTS AMERICA'S ECONOMY TO BE THE PRIDE OF THE WORLD ONCE AGAIN. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON WE LOSE JOBS OVERSEAS IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TAXING BUSINESSES TOO LITTLE. IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE TAXING BUSINESSES TOO MUCH. WE HAVE THE SINGLE HIGHEST CORPORATE TAX RATE IN THE WORLD IN AMERICA. WHY DOES SONY WANT TO LOCATE THEIR NEXT PLANT HERE? WHY DOES RICCO WANT TO LOCATE THEIR NEXT PLANT HERE? WHY DOES WHIRLPOOL WANT TO KEEP THEIR PLANTS HERE? WE PUNISH BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTRY THROUGH OUR TAX CODE LIKE NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. NOW, IS THERE A REGULATORY COMPONENT TO THAT, TOO, WE NEED TO SOLVE TO MAKE AMERICA ATTRACTIVE FOR BUSINESS? THERE ABSOLUTELY IS. IS THERE A HEALTH CARE COMPONENT OF THAT AS THOSE DOZENS RISE? ABSOLUTELY THERE IS. IS THERE A PAYROLL TAX COST IN THAT? WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE LARGEST COST OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY THERE IS. THERE IS ONLY ONE PROPOSAL IN THE HOUSE THAT DOES IT AND THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT HERE BEHIND YOU, MR. SPEAKER, IN THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE ROOM IS HOLDING A HEARING ON H.R. 25, THE FAIR TAX. THE FAIR TAX ELIMINATES THESE INCOME TAXES AND MOVES AMERICA TO A CONSUMPTION TAX MODEL. AMERICA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE OECD NATIONS THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CONSUMPTION TAX. A FAIR TAX SHIFTS US IN THAT DIRECTION. WHAT IT DOES FOR THE FIRST TIME, ONLY BILL IN CONGRESS THAT DOES IT, IT ELIMINATES EVERY SINGLE BIT OF CORPORATE WELFARE IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES TAX CODE. OIL COMPANIES, GONE. SOLAR COMPANIES, GONE. FOREIGN COMPANIES, GONE. .EVERY SINGLE TAX BREAK IN THE CODE IS ABOLISHED, MR. SPEAKER, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE FREE MARKET WORKS BEST WHEN THE MARKET IS FREE. AND WE KNOW THAT BUSINESSES DON'T PAY TAXES. CONSUMERS PAY TAXES. THERE IS NOT A PENNY THAT WE CHARGE WAL-MART THAT THEY DON'T ROLL RIGHT INTO THEIR COSTS AND PASS IT ALONG TO US. YOU SEE IT. YOU SEE IT ABSOLUTELY EVERY DAY. IF WE RAISE GAS TAXES, GAS PRICES GO UP. IF WE LOWER GAS TAXES, GAS PRICES GO DOWN. THE MARKETS WORK THOSE THINGS OUT. IF YOU EVER BEEN TO A COKE MACHINE, MR. SPEAKER, I'M FROM ATLANTA. I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT COKE MACHINES. USUALLY THEY ARE GOING TO SIT BESIDE A PEPSI MACHINE. IF YOU EVER SEEN THE COKE COST A DOLLAR AN THE PEPSI RIGHT BESIDE IT COST $2? NO. DO YOU EVER SEE THE COKE SELL FOR $1.50 AND THE PEPSI SELL FOR $5? NO. THAT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE COKE'S A WONDERFUL PRODUCT. IT'S BECAUSE THE CONSUMER RULES IN AMERICA. AND PRICE MATTERS. YOU CAN'T CHARGE WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU CAN ONLY CHARGE WHAT THE CONSUMER WILL PAY. WHEN TAXES GO UP, CONSUMERS HAVE TO PAY MORE. THE FAIR TAX, MR. SPEAKER, WILL BRING THOSE JOBS BACK TO AMERICA LIKE NO OTHER PROPOSAL IN THIS CONGRESS. IT ELIMINATES THOSE CORPORATE INCOME TAXES AND IT ELIMINATES PAYROLL TAXES. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR PAYROLL TAX RECENTLY? 15.3% OF EVERY PAYCHECK THAT YOU GET. NOW, THE WEALTHY DON'T PAY-PER-VIEW ROLL TAXES BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING THEIR MONEY IN INTEREST OR DIVIDENDS OR CAPITAL GAINS. THESE THINGS THAT PAYROLL TAXES DON'T COME OUT OF. THOSE OF US WHO WORK FOR PAYCHECKS, WE PAY-PER-VIEW ROLL TAXES, AND AT 15.3%, THE PAYROLL TAX IS THE LARGEST TAX THAT 80% OF AMERICANS PAY. LARGE YEAS PACKS THAT 80% OF AMERICAN FAMILIES PAY. WE DON'T SPEND ANY TIME ON THE FLOOR DISCUSSING THAT. WE ARGUE ABOUT INCOME TAXES ALL THE TIME. HALF OF AMERICA DOESN'T EVEN PAY INCOME TAXES ANYMORE. PAYROLL TAXES ARE THE TAX THAT IS AMERICAN PEOPLE PAY. 15.3%. IT COMES OUT OF YOUR PAYCHECK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO SEE YOUR PAYCHECK. A NOBEL PRIZE WINNING ECONOMIST WHO HELPED DURING WORLD WAR II ESTABLISH THE WITHHOLDING SYSTEM, THE GOVERNMENT NEEDED MONEY IN A HURRY, IT WAS WARTIME. THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN SUCKING MONEY OUT OF YOUR PAYCHECK BEFORE YOU SEE IT. MILTON FRIEDMAN SAID WORST DECISION OF HIS LIFE. IT WAS NOT WORKING TO DO AWAY WITH THE WITHHOLDING SYSTEM ONCE WORLD WAR II ENDED BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE PAYING. YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS YOU TO RUN THIS UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. WE TALK ABOUT TRILLIONS. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT A TRILLION DOLLARS, MR. SPEAKER. $1 TRILLION, COST OF THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU START A BUSINESS ON THE DAY JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN, AND YOU WERE SO BAD AT YOUR SMALL BUSINESS, MR. SPEAKER, YOU LOST $1 MILLION A DAY EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM THE DAY JESUS WAS BORN THROUGH TODAY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE LOSING MONEY FOR ANOTHER 700 YEARS, MR. SPEAKER, TO LOSE YOUR FIRST TRILLION DOLLARS. THE WE THROW THAT NUMBER AROUND LIKE IT'S NOTHING. IT IS SOMETHING. WE NEED JOBS BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, MR. SPEAKER. THE FAIR TAX WILL DO IT. I ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO PAY ATTENTION WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE TODAY ON H.R. 25. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, -- I'M SOARRY, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, FOR FIVE MINUTES. MS. JACKSON

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  • 10:51:41 AM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    YOU, VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MY GOOD FRIENDS HAVE COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE…

    YOU, VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MY GOOD FRIENDS HAVE COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE, GOOD FRIEND JUST CAME AND OFFERED SOME SOLUTIONS AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MEMBERS TO HAVE IDEAS AND TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. EVERY TIME WE STAND IN THIS WELL, WE SHOULD BE RISING TO MAKE THE LIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THOSE WHO HAVE ENTRUSTED US TO BE THE HOLDERS OF THE VALUES OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY, WE SHOULD BE MOVING ON ON THEIR BEHALF. SO THIS MORNING I'M ASKING THAT WE GET ON WITH IT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE DISCUSSING TAX REFORM, BUT AS MANY OF US KNOW, THAT IS A LONG, PROTRACTED PROCESS OF GIVE AND TAKE. AND MANY AMERICANS WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PAYROLL TAX IS ALL ABOUT WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE FACES OF THEIR SENIORS AND THEMSELVES, AND THEY KNOW THAT PART OF THAT IS SOCIAL SECURITY. AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SOCIAL SECURITY HAS BEEN A LIFE LINE FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS AND IT IS SOLVENT, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT AMERICA IS NOT BROKE. BUT THE GOOD WORK OF THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE AND THE GOOD WORK OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MEETING RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL BE HEADING ON TO THAT COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT PREVENTING CORRUPTION IN BUSINESS AND MAKING SURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET THEIR FAIR SHARE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE ON. HOW DO WE MOVE ON? WE DO SOMETHING THAT AMERICANS HAVE SAID BY AND LARGE THEY WANT US TO DO TOGETHER. AND THAT IS GET PAST THE DEBT CEILING, DO SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME. YES, WE HAVE GROWN AS A NATION OF THE THE REASON IS BECAUSE IN WORLD WAR II WE WERE NOT 300 MILLION-PLUS PEOPLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE ASSETS AND RESPONSIBILITIES. IN FACT, THE WARS OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WERE LONGER THAN WORLD WAR II. AND ALL OF THOSE MONEYS WERE SPENT UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, TAX CUTS THAT WENT ABOUT FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO BY AND LARGE HAVE SAID NO THANK YOU BECAUSE THEY WANT TO INVEST IN AMERICA. SO I'M PREPARED TO JOIN WITH MY MANY FRIENDS TO WORK ON MOVING THIS COUNTRY FORWARD, BUT LET'S MOVE ON. LET'S MOVE ON BEYOND THE IMPOSSIBLE PROPOSAL GIVEN BY SPEAKER BOEHNER OF THAT -- THAT FOCUSES ON A HYBRID, VOTE NOW FOR THE DEBT CEILING THEN COME BACK AND FIGHT IT OUT AGAIN IN SIX MONTHS. THAT IS NOT THE CONSISTENCY AND THE EVENNESS THAT IS NECESSARY FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT OR ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES OR ALL OF THOSE IN THE ARENA OF MONEY MAKING. THEY NEED AN EVEN PATHWAY. AND SO WHILE WE GET ON WITH THE ORDINARY BUSINESS, GET ON WITH THE ORDINARY BUSINESS SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THIS COUNTRY, EDUCATION FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, MAKING SURE THE DOORS OF BUSINESSES STAY OPEN, TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE FIX A TAX SYSTEM WHERE WE ALL CAN BENEFIT. BUT AS LONG AS WE ARE WALLOWING IN THE ORDINARY WORK, THE WORK THAT SHOULD JUST GO ON, WE'LL NEVER REACH THE POINT OF SANITY WHICH IS TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE OF RECONCILIATION AND COMPROMISE. I KNOW WE HAVE IT IN US. WE LIKE EACH OTHER. BUT IT APPEARS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE MAY NOT LIKE THEM. SO I WILL JUST ASK AS WE ARE NEARING THE RESOLUTION OF THE DEBT CEILING, AGAIN, TO PAY THE BILLS THAT WERE BUILT UP BETWEEN 2000 AND 2008, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT IN AFGHANISTAN. BILLIONS LOST IN UNTOWARD CONTRACTS, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE MONEYS HAVE GONE. IRAQ, MONEYS LOST. A WAR THAT WAS IN ESSENCE A DETOUR. AND LET ME JUST SAY, EVERY TIME I SAY THAT, I ALWAYS THANK OUR SOLDIERS AND THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A DETOUR. THEY ACCEPTED THE CALL TO DUTY. WE OWE THEM A GREAT DEAL OF APPRECIATION, BUT THE POLICYMAKERS SENT THEM INTO WARS THAT ARE GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND IT CAUSED THIS COUNTRY TO PAY FOR THESE WARS. AT THE SAME TIME, DRASTIC DRACONIAN CUTS IN THE REVENUE COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES BANK ACCOUNT. SO HERE WE ARE. HAVING LEFT IN 2000 WITH PRESIDENT CLINTON WITH A HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS OF SURPLUS, WE CAME OUT OF 2008 IN ENORMOUS DEBT. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TODAY? THE DEBT CEILING IS SIMPLY SAYING PAY AMERICA'S BILLS. AND IT'S ALSO SAYING TO THE MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, WHICH WE APPRECIATE BUYING OUR TREASURY NOTES, THAT IS OF VALUE TO THE UNITED STATES, THE DOLLAR HAS BEEN STRONGER THAN ANY OTHER CURRENCY EXCEPT FOR THE MANIPULATION THAT GOES ON IN CHINA, BUT IT'S STRONGER THAN THE EURO. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. SPEAKER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO PASS THE DEBT CEILING, GET PAST THIS FRIVOLITY . IT IS TIME TO PASS AND MOVE FORWARD. THE REID PROPOSAL CAN BRING ALL OF US TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO BEGIN TO STUDY IT.

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK, MS. HOCHUL, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. HOCHUL

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE FOR FIVE MINUTES TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE FOR FIVE MINUTES TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS. LESS THAN TWO MONTHS ON THIS JOB, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK. IS ANYONE IN THIS BODY LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE WHO SENT US HERE? I COULD ONLY CONCLUDE AT THIS POINT THAT THE ANSWER IS NO. OR WE WOULD NOT BE TEETERING ON THE PRECIPICE, NOT JUST A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, BUT INTENTIONAL, I SAY INTENTIONAL ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN. THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY. I SAY INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THE STAKES OF THIS HIGH EXPENSE GAME OF CHICKEN, WE ALL KNOW THE GAME OF CHICKEN, GOT A COUPLE OF CRAZY TEENAGERS RACING TOWARD EACH OTHER ON A HIGHWAY AND NOBODY'S GOING TO SWERVE. WHAT HAPPENS? WHEN NO ONE BLINKS, NO ONE SWERVES? NO ONE COMES TO THEIR SENSES? A CRASH. LIVES ARE LOST. NO SURVIVORS. IT'S NOT A PRETTY SIGHT. IT DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THIS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR US PUT THEIR FAITH IN US, THEY DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. THEY WONDER IF ANYONE IN WASHINGTON IS LISTENING. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN THAT ASSESSMENT. I'LL TELL YOU I WAS AT A FIREMAN'S PARADE IN A TINY, TINY VILLAGE IN SILVER SPRINGS, ONE OF MY MOST RURAL COUNTIES, WYOMING COUNTY. MORE REPUBLICANS THAN COWS OUT THERE, AND COWS AND DEMOCRATS, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE ARE ALL BOUND BY THE SAME FEELINGS. THIS FRUSTRATED SENIOR AT THE PARADE SAID TO ME, WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER? WE SEND YOU THERE TO DO A JOB AND YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING IT. YOU KNOW, HE WAS RIGHT. HE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I TOOK THAT TO HEART. I CAME BACK HERE AND I WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO RESTORE HIS FAITH IN US. AND THE SENIORS, HE TALKED ABOUT THE SENIORS. WE ARE SO SCARED OUT HERE. I NEED MY SOCIAL SECURITY. I NEED MY MEDICARE. WHY ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT HURTING US? WE PAY INTO THESE SYSTEMS ALL OUR LIVES, WE DON'T DESERVE THIS. I SAID I'LL GO BACK. I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN. I'LL FIGHT FOR YOU. THEY HAVE FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, AND DISGUST ALL DIRECTED AT THE INEPTITUDE OF WASHINGTON. IT IS WRONG, IT IS PLAIN WRONG THAT WE ARE EVEN CONSIDERING DEFAULTING ON AMERICA'S OBLIGATIONS. IT'S DOUBLY WRONG THAT WE CONSIDER DEFAULTING ON OUR OBLIGATIONS TO OUR SENIORS. PROMISES MADE 46 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK WITH THE ADVENT OF MEDICARE. THE INTEGRITY, THE WILLINGNESS TO UPHOLD AND HONOR OUR PROMISES SHOULD BE THE HALLMARKS OF THIS GREAT INSTITUTION. AND YET WHAT I HAVE WITNESSED IN SUCH A SHORT TIME IS A WILLINGNESS TO RENEGE ON OUR PROMISES TO OUR DEBTORS, OUR SENIORS, AND ULTIMATELY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. . RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO AVOID THAT HIGHWAY COLLISION WHERE NO ONE WALKS AWAY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS. OUR SMALL BUSINESSES DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS. OUR MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS. I TELL YOU, WE NEED TO GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. ENGEL, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. ENGEL

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY BECAUSE I WANT MY…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY BECAUSE I WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO HEAR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS BACK HOME. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CANNOT COMPROMISE. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CANNOT WORK TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD. AND WHAT I SEE HAPPENING HERE IS SOMETHING I HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE 23 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE IT'S THAT PEOPLE DO NOT SEEM TO WANT TO MOVE TO THE CENTER AND TO COMPROMISE. I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE AISLE, PARTICULARLY THE TEA PARTY-BACKED FRESHMEN, HAVE SIGNED A PLEDGE NEVER TO RAISE TAXES. WELL, I WANT TO SAY WHAT SENATOR COBURN SAID THE OTHER DAY. HE SAID, WHAT AM I UPHOLDING MY PLEDGE TO? I UPHOLD MY PLEDGE TO ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION, NOT UPHOLDING MY PLEDGE TO ABIDE BY WHAT A SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP WANTS. PEOPLE WANT US TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE SEEMS TO BE INTRANSIGENTS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPENT TOO MUCH OVER THESE PAST DECADES. AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE CAN BALANCE OUR BUDGET AND PAY OUR BILLS, WE CAN'T DO IT ALL WITH JUST SPENDING CUTS. IT HAS TO BE THREE THINGS. IT HAS TO BE SPENDING CUTS, FOR SURE. IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE AND SHOULD BE CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES FOR THE VERY WEALTHY WHO GET AWAY WITH PAYING NO TAXES AT ALL, FOR LARGE CORPORATIONS WHO PAY NO TAXES AT ALL, FOR SPECIAL SUBSIDIES, TO BUSINESSES THAT MOVE THEIR JOBS OVERSEAS, TO SPECIAL SUBSIDIES FOR COMPANIES LIKE BIG OIL WHO DON'T NEED THE SUBSIDIES. WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO CAN PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GET OUR BUDGET BACK IN BALANCE. BOTH MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CUT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THE DEMOCRATS HALFWAY. THEN, I'M AFRAID WE'RE MOVING TO FALL OFF A CLIFF. PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT YESTERDAY WHEN HE SAID THAT ONE SIDE SEEMS TO BE SAYING, MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. TAX CUTS FOREVER EVEN IF OUR BUDGET IS NOT BALANCED. WE AS DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING, LET'S DO IT A COMPROMISED WAY. LET US CUT SPENDING. LET US CLOSE TAX LOOPHOLES. AND LET THOSE WHO CAN PAY A LITTLE MORE, MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES, PAY A LITTLE MORE. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SENT US HERE. I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, SOCIAL SECURITY AND IN NEW YORK GRADUATE MEDICAL EDUCATION. I DIDN'T COME HERE TO DEVASTATE THOSE PROGRAMS, AND I WANT MY CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO FIGHT LIKE CRAZY TO PRESERVE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, SOCIAL SECURITY AND G.M.E. WE CANNOT BALANCE OUR BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF SENIOR CITIZENS. I WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON, THE LAST DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT BEFORE PRESIDENT OBAMA LEFT OFFICE WE HAD RECORD SURPLUSES. WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH CAME IN WE HAD RECORD DEFICITS AS FAR AS THE EYE COULD SEE. SIX OF THE EIGHT BUSH YEARS REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED BOTH THE HOUSE AND BOTH THE SENATE AND HAD THE PRESIDENCY FOR SIX YEARS. IF THEY WANTED A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THEY COULD HAVE HAD IT. IF THEY TRIED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT. SO I DON'T THINK LECTURES ARE IMPORTANT NOW. I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND ON ALL SIDES. WE HAD THE BUSH TAX CUTS. WE HAD WARS. AND WE HAD RECKLESS SPENDING. AND IT WAS DONE UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH WITH REPUBLICAN MAJORITIES IN THE HOUSE. SO WE NEED TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND MOVE TO A SENSIBLE CENTER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT, TO GET US OFF THIS PRECIPICE THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO FALL INTO. I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DO. IF HE SEES IN A FEW DAYS THAT THERE'S NO PROGRESS BEING MADE AND WE ARE ABOUT TO APPROACH AUGUST 2 AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THIS TRAIN WRECK, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD INVOKE THE 14TH AMENDMENT. THE 14TH AMENDMENT SAYS THE PUBLIC DEBT SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED AND IN MY ESTIMATION GIVES THE PRESIDENT THE AUTHORITY TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING BY HIMSELF. I THINK THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DO THAT IF WE DO NOT COME TO A COMPROMISE. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHOICE WILL BE -- HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED…

    THE CHOICE WILL BE -- HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED BY YOU ARE GUEST CHAPLAIN, THE REVEREND. FROM THE HOLY FAMILY CHURCH IN PENNSYLVANIA.

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    THE CHAPLAIN

    ASKER TO YOUR WISDOM, CHARITY AND HUMILITY. WE CONTINUE TO TASK OF…

    ASKER TO YOUR WISDOM, CHARITY AND HUMILITY. WE CONTINUE TO TASK OF OPERATING THIS GREAT NATION WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY. GRANT US THE WISDOM TO ACT FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF ALL CITIZENS . KEEP US HUMBLE THAT WE NOT FORGET WHO WE ARE AND WHY WE ARE HERE. WE REMEMBER THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO RISKED THEIR REPUTATIONS, THEIR FORTUNES AND THEIR VERY LIVES TO FORM A NATION THAT ENSURES THE FREEDOMS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ENJOY TODAY. WE ALSO REMEMBER THOSE BRAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THOSE FREEDOMS AND OPPORTUNITIES. FATHER, KEEP US DEDICATED TO THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT, LET US NOT ALLOW PARTNERSHIP TO CAUSE DISCOURSE AMONG OUR NUMBERS AND PREVENT US FROM COMPLETING OUR AGENDA. WE DEPEND UPON YOUR GRACE AND MERCY TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS NATION WITH HONOR AND INTEGRITY. WE ASK THIS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

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    THE SPEAKER

    EXAMINE THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE…

    EXAMINE THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE HOUSE HIS APPROVAL THEREOF. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1 OF RULE 1, THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALABAMA RISE?

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    TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. MR. SPEAKER, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1, RULE 1, I DEMAND…

    TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. MR. SPEAKER, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1, RULE 1, I DEMAND A VOTE ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL.

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    THE SPEAKER

    ON THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    ON THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE JOURNAL IS APPROVED.

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    MR. SPEAKER, I DEMAND THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION ARE POSTPONED. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY WILL BE LED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. PITTS.

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    MR. PITTS

    ASK THE GUEST IN THE GALLERY TO JOIN US IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF…

    ASK THE GUEST IN THE GALLERY TO JOIN US IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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    THE SPEAKER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. ALTMIRE, IS…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. ALTMIRE, IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. ALTMIRE

    THE MIDST OF ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES IN RECENT…

    THE MIDST OF ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES IN RECENT TIMES, I KNEW JUST WHO TO BRING TO WASHINGTON TO HELP BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND IT'S MY GREAT HONOR TO WELCOME THE REVEREND MIROSLAUS STE WILL LMASZCZYK. KNOWN SIMPLY AS FATHER MIRO HE HAS LED THE HOLY FAMILY PARISH IN PENNSYLVANIA FOR 26 OF HIS 36 YEARS IN THE PRIESTHOOD. HE HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS IN RECOGNITION OF HIS PUBLIC SERVICE SINCE HE FIRST CAME TO THE UNITED STATES FROM POLAND IN 1986. AND AS TESTAMENT TO HIS POLL LATER AMONG HIS GONG GATION CONSCIOUS CONGREGATION, MR. SPEAKER, I'D ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME THE THREE DOZEN HOLY FAMILY PARISHIONERS WHO MADE THE TRIP TO WASHINGTON ALONG WITH FATHER MIRO AND ARE NOW SEATED IN THE GALLERY TO WITNESS HIS OPENING PRAYER TODAY. WELCOME TO YOU ALL. ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE, WELCOME, FATHER MIRO, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING CHOSEN AS TODAY'S GUEST CHAPLAIN FOR THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN UP TO 15…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN UP TO 15 FURTHER REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES ON EACH SIDE OF THE AISLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA RISE?

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    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. WILSON

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, LAST NIGHT SPEAKER BOEHNER ADDRESSED…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, LAST NIGHT SPEAKER BOEHNER ADDRESSED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND SAID THAT IF THE PRESIDENT WOULD SIMPLY SIGN HIS DEBT CEILING BILL THE CRISIS IN HIS WORDS WOULD DISAPPEAR. ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. AN HOUR OR TWO BEFORE HIS SPEECH, STANDARD & POOR'S RATING AGENCY ISSUED A REPORT SAYING THAT IF THE BOEHNER PLAN PASSED, THE AMERICAN BONDS WOULD BE DOWNGRADED FROM ITS A.A.A. STATUS. DOWN GRADE IS AS BAD AS DEFAULT IN TERMS OF DRIVING UP LENDING COSTS AND DAMAGING A FRAGILE ECONOMY THAT TODAY NEEDS ALL OF US TO WORK TOGETHER TO STRENGTHEN JOB CREATION, TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.

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    MR. COURTNEY

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TONIGHT REPRESENTATIVE GABRIELLE GIFFORDS' OFFICE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TONIGHT REPRESENTATIVE GABRIELLE GIFFORDS' OFFICE IS ORGANIZING A SPECIAL ORDER TO RECOGNIZE BORDER PATROL AGENTS WHO WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY OF LAST YEAR.

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    MR. PITTS

    HER AND HER STAFF FOR WORKING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO…

    HER AND HER STAFF FOR WORKING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO DIED SERVING OUR NATION. WHILE I WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HONOR AGENT MICHAEL GALLAGHER WHO GREW UP IN LANCASTER, PENNSYLVANIA. ON SEPTEMBER 2 LAST YEAR AGENT GALLAGHER WAS ON PATROL NEAR CASSA GRANDE, ARIZONA. A DRUNKEN DRIVER RAN A STOP SIGN, COLLIDING INTO THE PATROL CAR AND EJECTING MICHAEL FROM THE VEHICLE. HE SERVED IN THE BORDER PATROL FOR TWO YEARS AND ALSO SERVED OUR NATION IN IRAQ, RISKING HIS LIFE TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM. HE IS DEALER MISSED BY HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO SONS. EVEN THOUGH HE MOVED AWAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT HE REMAINED A DEDICATED PENNSYLVANIA SPORTS FAN. WE CANNOT THANK HIM AND HIS FAMILY ENOUGH FOR HIS SERVICE. WE CAN ONLY HONOR HIM FOR DEDICATING HIS LIFE TO KEEPING AMERICANS SAFE HERE AT HOME AND ABROAD. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA RISE?

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WE MUST ACT NOW ON INCREASING OUR DEBT LIMIT. THE…

    THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WE MUST ACT NOW ON INCREASING OUR DEBT LIMIT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT INCREASING THIS AMENDMENT WILL ENABLE US TO MEET OBLIGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED BY DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN CONGRESSES IN YEARS PAST.

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    MR. BUTTERFIELD

    DEFAULTING ON THESE OBLIGATIONS WILL NOT ONLY WREAK HAVOC ON THE AMERICAN…

    DEFAULTING ON THESE OBLIGATIONS WILL NOT ONLY WREAK HAVOC ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IT WILL WEAKEN OUR OVERALL ECONOMY. REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN GIVEN OPPORTUNITY AFTER OPPORTUNITY TO HELP CRAFT AN ACCEPTABLE LONG-TERM DEBT REDUCTION PLAN THAT WOULD INCLUDE A DEBT LIMIT INCREASE BUT REPUBLICANS HAVE SLOW WALKED US TO THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE. THE REPUBLICAN PLAN IS TO IMPERIL MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. REPUBLICANS WANT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET BY FORCING THE GOVERNMENT AWAY FROM GOVERNMENT-SPONSORED MEDICARE AND PROVIDE VOUCHERS SO SENIORS CAN PURCHASE COVERAGE FROM PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES. REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHIFT THE MEDICAID RESPONSIBILITY TO STATES THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGETS. REPUBLICAN BUDGET CUTS WILL FORCE DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS AND OTHER HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS TO LEAVE THE MEDICAID PROGRAM ENTIRELY. THE REPUBLICAN STRU STRATEGY HAS BEEN EVOLVING -- THE REPUBLICAN STRATEGY HAS BEEN EVOLVING FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW IT IS REVEALED. SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO LISTEN CLOSELY TO…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO LISTEN CLOSELY TO THESE WORDS. AND I QUOTE, THE FACT THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DEBATE RAISING AMERICA'S DEBT LIMIT IS A SIGN OF LEADERSHIP FAILURE. IT IS A SIGN THAT U.S. GOVERNMENT CANNOT PAY ITS OWN BILLS. IT IS A SIGN THAT WE NOW DEPEND ONION GOING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO FINANCE OUR GOVERNMENT'S RECKLESS FISCAL POLICIES. INCREASING AMERICA'S DEBT WEAKEN US DOMESTICALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY. LEADERSHIP MEANS THAT BUCK STOPS HERE. INSTEAD WASHINGTON IS SHIFTING THE BURDEN OF BAD CHOICES TODAY ONTO THE BACKS OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN. AMERICA HAS A DEBT PROBLEM AND A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP. AMERICANS DESERVE BETTER. THESE WERE REMARKS BY SENATOR BARACK OBAMA MARCH, 2006. MR. SPEAKER, THE PRESIDENT'S HYPOCRISY COULD NOT BE MORE CLEAR. MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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    THE JOBS? THE BLUE DOGS WERE THE ONES CALLING FOR RESPONSIBLE FISCAL…

    THE JOBS? THE BLUE DOGS WERE THE ONES CALLING FOR RESPONSIBLE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. THEN AT THE END OF CONGRESS LAST YEAR, PRESIDENT OBAMA COMPROMISED WITH THE REPUBLICANS, EXTENDED THE BUSH TAX CUTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO CREATE JOBS.

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    MR. BACA

    CREATE JOBS, ALL IT'S DONE IS EXTENDED THE TAX BREAKS FOR MILLIONAIRES AND…

    CREATE JOBS, ALL IT'S DONE IS EXTENDED THE TAX BREAKS FOR MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. WE CANNOT PLAY CHICKEN, I STATE, WE CANNOT PLAY CHICKEN AND CAUSE OUR NATION TO DEFAULT. WE MUST LOWER THE DEFICIT WITH CUTS TO WASTEFUL SPENDING. BUT WE CAN'T BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF SENIORS, THE POOR BY CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. WHILE CONTINUING TO GIVE TAX BREAKS TO THE ULTRARICH AND OIL COMPANIES AND THOSE WHO MAKE OVER $250,000 A YEAR. NO TAXES, NO JOBS, NO TAXES, NO JOBS. WE MUST COMPROMISE. IT CAN'T BE MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN. OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF WE'VE SEEN THIS PRESIDENT TAKE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF WE'VE SEEN THIS PRESIDENT TAKE AWAY A LOT OF OUR FREEDOMS WITH BIG SPENDING AND A BIG HEALTH CARE PLAN MUCH I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER RISK TO AMERICAN FREEDOM TODAY AND THAT'S THE UNITED NATIONS ARMED TRADE TREATY ALSO KNOWN AS THE SMALL ARMS TREATY. I'M PROFOUNDLY DISAPPOINTED BUT FRANKLY NOT SURPRISED THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS JOINING THE UNITED NATIONS IN CRAFTING THIS DANGEROUS TREATY DESIGNED TO CURTAIL OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. PARTIES IN THIS NEGOTIATION, THE TREATY, ARE TALKING ABOUT BANNING CIVILIAN POSSESSION OF FIREARMS, DECREASING THE ABILITY OF TRADE IN FIREARMS AND HEAVILY RESTRICTING THE RIGHTS OF AMERICANS TO CARRY THEIR FIREARMS.

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    MR. POMPEO

    EACH ONE OF THESE DIRECTTIVES IF IMPLEMENTED WOULD CLEARLY VIOLATE…

    EACH ONE OF THESE DIRECTTIVES IF IMPLEMENTED WOULD CLEARLY VIOLATE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS IN OUR CONSTITUTION. THE SENATE SHOULD NOT RATIFY THIS TREATY. WE MUST NEVER TURN OUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY OVER TO ANYONE, MOST ESPECIALLY THE UNITED NATIONS. AS A FORMER SOLDER -- SOLD WHO ARE DEALER LOVES HIS MG AND LOVES HIS FIRE -- HIS MACHINE GUN AND LOVES HIS FIREARM, I KNOW WE HAVE THAT RIGHT, WE HAVE TO STAND TO PROTECT IT AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE NOT TO RATIFY THIS TREATY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. CICILLINE

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THREE EMPLOYERS IN RHODE ISLAND…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THREE EMPLOYERS IN RHODE ISLAND THAT ARE HONORING AND SUPPORTING THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING OUR GREAT COUNTRY IN THE ARMED SERVICES. THESE INCLUDE A MUTUAL INSURANCE OF RHODE ISLAND, BANNER INDUSTRIES OF NORTH SMITHFIELD AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL. THESE RHODE ISLAND EMPLOYERS HAVE RECEIVED NATIONAL RECOGNITIONS A -- RECOGNITION AS FINALISTS FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE EMPLOYER SUPPORT FREEDOM AWARD. AND WERE SELECTED FOR THIS HONOR FROM A POOL OF MORE THAN 4,000 NOMINATIONS. THIS AWARDS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE'S HIGHEST RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYERS FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY SUPPORT THEY PROVIDE TO OUR NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVE MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE AWARD IS ESPECIALLY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE NEARLY HALF OF OUR NATION'S MILITARY IS CURRENTLY COMPRISED OF GUARD MEMBERS AND RESERVISTS. THESE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE ABOUT A BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY ASKED THEM TOO, BECAUSE OF THEIR SERVICE WE'RE ABLE TO ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE HERE AT HOME. WE OWE THOSE SERVING OUR COUNTRY, OUR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES, OUR UTMOST GRATITUDE AND RESPECT FOR THEIR GREAT SACRIFICES ON OUR BEHALF. I COMMEND THE BUSINESSES WHO RECOGNIZE THE SACRIFICES OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. .

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. YESTERDAY, PRESIDENT OBAMA GAVE A SPEECH TO THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. YESTERDAY, PRESIDENT OBAMA GAVE A SPEECH TO THE NATION ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING. HE SAID, AND I QUOTE, I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS OF EVERY PLAN OR PROPOSAL, END QUOTE. MR. SPEAKER, I SAY PLEASE BORE US WITH THE DETAILS. THE HOUSE PASSED THE CUT, CAP, AND BALANCE PLAN THAT PREVENTS A NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY BY MODESTLY CUTTING SPENDING, CAPPING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT, AND ADVOCATING A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FORCE CONGRESS TO ACT RESPONSIBLY.

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    MR. BROOKS

    THE PRESIDENT GIVES FINE SPEECHES YET FAILS TO SUBMIT A SINGLE WRITTEN…

    THE PRESIDENT GIVES FINE SPEECHES YET FAILS TO SUBMIT A SINGLE WRITTEN PLAN TO BALANCE THE BUDGET THAT CAN BE EVALUATED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. MR. SPEAKER, I SAY BORE US WITH THE DETAILS. WASHINGTON SPENDING BINGE HAS PUT AMERICA $14 TRILLION IN DEBT. AMERICA'S FUTURE IS AT RISK. CONGRESS WELCOMES WRITTEN KEY TAILED SOLUTIONS TO WASHINGTON SPENDING BINGE FROM THE PRESIDENT. MR. SPEAKER, I REITERATE, PLEASE BORE US WITH THE DETAILS. AMERICA HAS A RIGHT TO HEAR THEM. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS THE DUTY TO DELIVER THEM. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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    MR. CARNEY

    MR. CHAIR, I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF EFFORTS TO FIND A CURE FOR TYPE ONE…

    MR. CHAIR, I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF EFFORTS TO FIND A CURE FOR TYPE ONE DIABETES. RECENTLY I VISITED WITH 11-YEAR-OLD MADLY TOLLMAN FROM MY HOME STATE OF DELAWARE. SHE WAS HERE TO TELL HER STORY OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE WITH TYPE 1 DIABETES. MADELINE HAS TO CHECK HER BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS, MANAGING HER DIET, AND INJECTING HERSELF WITH INSULIN EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHILE SEARCH TO FIND A CURE FOR TYPE 1 DIABETES IS PROGRESSING, PEOPLE LIKE MADELINE ARE LOOKING FOR BETTER WAYS TO MANAGE THEIR DIABETES RIGHT NOW. AN ARTIFICIAL PANCREAS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO TRANSFORM THE LIVES OF THOSE WITH TYPE 1 DIABETES. THIS DEVICE AUTOMATICALLY CONTROLS BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS AROUND THE CLOCK. ALLOWING PATIENTS TO REMAIN HEALTHY UNTIL A CURE IS FOUND. BUT BEFORE THIS TECHNOLOGY CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO PATIENTS, THE F.D.A. MUST APPROVE THE NEXT STEP IN THE REGULATORY PROCESS FOR THE TRIAL. I COMMEND THE F.D.A. FOR COMMITTING TO PUBLISH DRAFT GUIDANCE BY DECEMBER 1. I URGE THE F.D.A. TO STICK WITH THAT GUIDELINE. CHILDREN LIKE MADELINE HAVE WAITED LONG ENOUGH. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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    SPEAKER. WE VOTED LAST WEEK ON A PLAN PUT FORWARD BY MY REPUBLICAN…

    SPEAKER. WE VOTED LAST WEEK ON A PLAN PUT FORWARD BY MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES THAT I STRONGLY OPPOSED AND WAS REJECTED BY THE SENATE.

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    MR. CARNAHAN

    HAVE ENDED MEDICARE AS WE KNOW T WHILE PRESERVING GIVE AWAYS TO BIG OIL…

    HAVE ENDED MEDICARE AS WE KNOW T WHILE PRESERVING GIVE AWAYS TO BIG OIL AND CORPORATIONS SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS. NOW SPEAKER BOEHNER HAS INTRODUCED A NEW PLAN. WHICH HE SAYS FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF THE LAST PLAN. RATING AGENCY'S SAY MR. BOEHNER'S PLAN WON'T WORK. IT WON'T PREVENT A RATINGS DOWNGRADE, IT WILL DESTROY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS, WEAKEN THE AMERICAN DOLLAR, AND RAISE INTEREST RATES ON LOANS THAT KEEP FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES AND STUDENTS IN SCHOOL. WON'T WORK, NOT WORTH VOTING ON. INSTEAD WE ARE RETREATING TO OUR PARTISAN CORNERS AND REFUSING TO COOPERATE. WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH WE EXPECT LEADERS TO GET TO WORK. THIS DEFAULT CRISIS IS A TEST OF LEADERSHIP. THOSE WILLING TO DRIVE OUR COUNTRY OVER THE ECONOMIC CLIFF FAIL THAT TEST AND NEED TO GET SERIOUS. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. PINGREE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS THE PHONES IN MY…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS THE PHONES IN MY OFFICE HAVE BEEN RINGING OFF THE HOOK. THE MESSAGE FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS CLEAR. PLEASE DON'T TOUCH MEDICARE, MEDICAID, OR SOCIAL SECURITY. SOME ARE ANGRY AND SOME ARE TEARFUL. ALL ARE SICK WITH WORRY OVER THE THREAT OF LOSING BEN FETS THEY HAVE EARNED AND DEPEND ON. SADLY THESE EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS HAVE BECOME TARGETS FOR THOSE WHO WOULD BALANCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF SENIORS AND THE MIDDLE CLASS RATHER THAN RESTORING TAX RATES FOR MILLIONAIRES. IT'S UNTHINKABLE AND IT'S UNFAIR. I BLAN TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PRO-- I PLAN TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PROTECT THESE PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY WORK. WHEN MEDICARE STARTED 45 YEARS AGO, A THIRD OF OUR SENIORS LIVED IN POVERTY. HALF HAD NO HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. TODAY THE POVERTY RATE FOR SENIORS HAS BEEN SLASHED. AND NEARLY ALL OF OUR SENIORS HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY CARE. THANKS TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, SENIORS WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR PREVENTIVE CARE OR FALLING INTO THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG DOUGHNUT HOLE. AFTER WORKING HARD THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, SENIORS SHOULD BE ABLE TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE SYSTEM THEY FAITHFULLY PAID INTO WILL BE THERE FOR THEM WHEN THEY NEED IT MOST. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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    MR. MORAN

    THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE. REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    MR. MORAN

    MR. SPEAKER, I'LL NEVER FORGET THE DAY THAT WE VOTED FOR THE CLINTON TAX…

    MR. SPEAKER, I'LL NEVER FORGET THE DAY THAT WE VOTED FOR THE CLINTON TAX RATES. WE WERE TOLD BY ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS THAT THIS WAS GOING TO CAUSE MASSIVE JOB LOSS, AN UNBALANCED BUDGET, DRIVE US INTO RECESSION. WELL, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. MORE THAN 20 MILLION NEW JOBS WERE CREATED. WE HAVE THE LOWEST LEVEL OF POVERTY. THE HIGHEST EXPANSION OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. THREE STRAIGHT BUDGET SURPLUSES, AND THE PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST TAX RATES TOOK HOME MORE AFTER TAX INCOME THAN ANY TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY. IT WORKED. WE HANDED OVER $5.6 TRILLION OF SURPLUS. AND THEN WHEN THE REPUBLICANS TOOK POWER AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED? IMMEDIATELY THEY CUT TAXES. BUT NOT ACROSS THE BOARD. IN A WAY DESIGNED PRIMARILY TO BENEFIT THE WEALTHY. THAT'S WHY THE TOP 1% HAS 42% OF THIS NATION'S WEALTH. THE BOTTOM 90% -- 26%, THE GREATEST INCOME DISPARATE EVER. THIS IS A MANUFACTURED CRISIS, MR. SPEAKER. -- DISPARITY EVER. THIS IS A MANUFACTURED CRISIS, MR. SPEAKER. GO BACK TO WHAT ALAN GREENSPAN SAID, GO BACK TO THE CLINTON TAKES. PAY FOR MEDICARE. PAY FOR WARS. DON'T MANUFACTURE CRISES. DON'T DRIVE US TO DEADLINES WHERE THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING AND THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ACT AS WE DO. DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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    MR. TONKO

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IN JUST A FEW HOURS MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WILL BRING…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IN JUST A FEW HOURS MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WILL BRING TO THE FLOOR THE JOBS OUTSOURCERS BILL OF RIGHTS. THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS AN OPEN ATTACK ON WORK FORCE PROTECTIONS. A UNION BUSTING TOOL THAT WILL OPEN LOOP HOLES TO SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS AND MAKE HISTORIC CHANGES TO WORKERS' RIGHTS. ALL TO SERVE A WELL CONNECTED SPECIAL INTEREST COMMUNITY. THIS BILL WILL ALLOW COMPANIES TO FIRE WORKERS, WORKERS WHO THINK THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT SUPPORTING THEIR FAMILIES IN THESE TIMES BY BANDING TOGETHER TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR EMPLOYERS. THAT RIGHT, THE FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION, FINDS ITS ORIGINS IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE UNIONS, THERE IS NO SENSE IN MAKING IT EVEN EASIER TO SHIP OUR JOBS OVERSEAS. IF THIS BILL BECOMES LAW, A COMPANY FACED WITH A FEW ORGANIZING WORKERS TRYING TO FORM A UNION CAN CLOSE AN ENTIRE UNITED STATES PLANT AND MOVE THE WORK TO CHINA. WHERE SWEATSHOP LABORERS WILL WORK FOR LESS THAN EVEN THE LOWEST PAID NONUNION AMERICAN WORKERS. ACTUALLY THAT'S AN ASSAULT ON AMERICA'S MIDDLE CLASS. I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS REACTIONARY AND POORLY THOUGHT OUT LEGISLATION. WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. YARMUTH

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS AND MOST AMERICANS ARE…

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS AND MOST AMERICANS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THIS DEBT CEILING CRISIS IS. IT CAN'T BE ABOUT THE DESIRE TO CUT SPENDING BECAUSE BOTH SIDES HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO MORE CUTS THAN ARE ON THE TABLE IN EITHER THE SENATE OR HOUSE. NO, THIS IS A POLITICALLY INDUCED CRISIS THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE CREATED IN ORDER TO FORCE VOTES ON THE DEBT CEILING NEXT YEAR DURING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AND WEAKEN THE PRESIDENT. BUT I HOPE THEY REALIZE THAT IF THEY WEAKEN PRESIDENT OBAMA, THEY WEAKEN THE PRESIDENCY AS WELL. AND IF THEY SUCCEED IN DEFEATING HIM NEXT YEAR, THEIR CANDIDATE, THEIR PRESIDENT WILL FACE REDUCED STATURE IN THE WORLD JUST AS OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM WILL FACE A REDUCED STATURE IN THE WORLD. WE ARE THE FOUNDATION OF ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL STABILITY AROUND THE WORLD, AND THIS CRISIS IS THREATENING OUR STATURE IN THAT POSITION. WE CANNOT LET THE REPUBLICAN POLITICALLY INDUCE DEFAULT CRY CIES-DEFAULT CRISIS TO SUCCEED.

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    MS. CLARKE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE BEEN IN THE MAJORITY FOR A FULL 29 WEEKS. AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, JOBS. THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HAS INSTEAD USED THE TIME AND ENERGY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON JOBS TO MANUFACTURE A CRISIS THAT COULD VERY WELL DESTROY THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF OUR NATION. WHAT MAKES THIS MADE-UP CRISIS SO UNDIGNIFIED IS THE OTHER SIDE HAS TAKEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOSTAGE TO THEIR RADICAL PLAN OF PLACING THE BURDEN OF DEFICIT REDUCTION ON THE BACKS OF POOR, WORKING POOR, AND MIDDLE CLASS STRUGGLING FAMILIES. WHILE ASKING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF THE MOST FORTUNATE AMONGST US. THOSE WHO HAVE DONE VERY WELL IN AMERICA HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO SO LITTLE FOR THE COUNTRY THAT MADE THEIR SUCCESS POSSIBLE. THE REPUBLICAN-LED CONGRESS HAS TOTALLY IGNORED THE JOB CRISIS AND ACTUALLY MANAGED TO CREATE ANOTHER. THE 112 CONGRESS OWES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AN APOLOGY FOR CONTINUING TO WASTE THEIR TIME. WHERE ARE THE JOBS? WE OWE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REAL JOB CREATION. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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    MR. WALZ

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO TELL MY COLLEAGUES WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO TELL MY COLLEAGUES WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS ARE SAYING. SIMPLY STOP PLAYING GAMES. WE ALL COME TO THIS JOB WITH CERTAIN IDEAS, VALUES, AND PRINCIPLES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE GET TO LET OUR IDEOLOGY DICTATE FACTS. FAILURE TO PAY OUR BILLS WILL HAVE A CATASTROPHIC EFFECT ON OUR STILL RECOVERING ECONOMY. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THIS ISN'T A QUESTION ABOUT ENABLING FUTURE DEFICITS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO COVER THE PROMISES MADE TO OUR SENIORS, SOLDIERS IN THE FIELD, VETERANS, STATES, AND CREDITORS AT HOME AND ABROAD. WE NEED TO PAY OUR BILLS. THE NEED TO ADDRESS OUR DEBT IS EVERY BIT AS SERIOUS AS THE NEED TO AVOID A DEFAULT. WE NEED A BALANCED APPROACH AND SHARED SACRIFICE. WE CANNOT BALANCE THE BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF WORKING AND MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS WHILE SIMPLY REFUSING TO ASK CORPORATION AND BILLIONAIRES TO PAY ONE PENNY MORE. WE CANNOT IGNORE THE FACTS AND ALLOWING OUR NATION TO DEFAULT IS IN NO WAY THE WAY TO FIX OUR BUDGET PROBLEMS. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. FOXX

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, MR. SPEAKER.

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    MS. FOXX

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR RECORD DEBT OF $14.3 TRILLION IS GROWING AND POSES A…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR RECORD DEBT OF $14.3 TRILLION IS GROWING AND POSES A DIRECT THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, OUR ECONOMY, AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE REAL LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW NOT POLITICS AS USUAL. THE PRESIDENT'S BIPARTISAN DEFICIT COMMISSION CALLED THE HOUSE-PASSED PATH TO PROSPERITY A QUOTE, SERIOUS, HONEST, STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROACH TO ADDRESSING OUR NATION'S ENORMOUS FISCAL CHALLENGES. END QUOTE. ON THE CONTRARY THE DEMOCRATIC CO-CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION RECENTLY CRITICIZED THE PRESIDENT'S FISCAL PLAN INTRODUCED ON APRIL 13 BY STATING THAT, QUOTE, WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE RYAN PLAN, THE COMMISSION'S PLAN, IT REALLY DOESN'T STABILIZE THE DEBT. THE DEBT IS A PERCENTAGE OF G.D.P. GETS UP TO AROUND 77%. IT NEVER GETS TO PRIMARY BALANCE, END QUOTE. IF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRAT LEADERS OF THE SENATE WISH TO TAKE SOLVING OUR SPENDING DRIVEN DEBT CRISIS SERIOUSLY, THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE. WASHINGTON MUST STOP SPENDING IT DOESN'T HAVE. I YIELD BACK.

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    SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, AMERICA EARNED THE NAME THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY…

    SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, AMERICA EARNED THE NAME THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE ANYONE WILLING TO WORK HARD AND PLAY BY THE RULES CAN MAKE IT HERE. MR.

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  • 12:28:54 PM

    MR. DEUTCH

    WELL, OUR FAMILIES STILL WORK HARD. THEY STILL PLAY BY THE RULES. AND YET…

    WELL, OUR FAMILIES STILL WORK HARD. THEY STILL PLAY BY THE RULES. AND YET SO MANY ARE BARELY SCRAPING BY. SO THEY SEND US TO WASHINGTON TO FIGHT FOR THEM. THEY CAN'T AFFORD LOBBYISTS. THEY ONLY HAVE US. TODAY WE'LL CONSIDER REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION THAT IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF WHY TOO OFTEN THE SPECIAL INTERESTS WIN OUT OVER THE PUBLIC INTEREST. H.R. 2587 GIVES CORPORATIONS A GREEN LIGHT TO SEND JOBS OVERSEAS IF THEIR EMPLOYEE SIMPLY ASKS FOR A DECENT SALARY OR BETTER HOURS. THIS BILL IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT EXECUTIVES CAN NEGOTIATE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BONUSES FOR THEMSELVES BUT IF AMERICAN WORKERS EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS, THEIR JOBS WILL BE ON THE NEXT PLANE TO CHINA. THAT'S THE MAJORITY'S ANSWER TO OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS. IF RIGHTS OF AMERICAN WORKERS GET IN THE WAY OF CORPORATE PROFITS, THEN IT'S TIME TO DO AWAY WITH THOSE RIGHTS. LET'S STAND UP AND FIGHT TO KEEP JOBS HERE. LET'S FIGHT FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES. LET'S DEFEAT H.R. 2587. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:29:58 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN RISE?

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    THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE. REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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  • 12:30:10 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AS WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF FACING GOVERNMENT…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AS WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF FACING GOVERNMENT DEFAULT, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE FOR US AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO CONSIDER. AND IN MY OPINION NONE OF THESE PROPOSALS GO FAR ENOUGH. YES, THEY CUT MONEY IN HOPES OF REDUCING OUR DEFICIT AND REDUCING OUR DEBT. BUT HERE'S WHAT THEY DON'T DO. THEY DON'T CUT, THEY DON'T CAP AND THEY DON'T FORGIVE STUDENT LOAN DEBT. LOOK, PEOPLE, WE WANT TO CREATE JOBS, WE WANT OUR FAMILIES TO HAVE FINANCIAL SECURITY, WE NEED TO HELP THEM GET OUT OF PERSONAL DEBT AND THE MOST POWERFUL WAY TO GET THIS ECONOMY MOVING AGAIN AND TO GET OUR PEOPLE THE EDUCATION THEY NEED IS TO HELP FORGIVE CERTAIN STUDENT LOAN DEBT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 12:31:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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  • 12:31:13 PM

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    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. BY THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES, I CALL UP…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. BY THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES, I CALL UP HOUSE RESOLUTION 370 AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RESOLUTION.

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    THE CLERK

    HOL HOUSE CALENDAR NUMBER 60, HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, RESOLVED THAT AT ANY…

    HOL HOUSE CALENDAR NUMBER 60, HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, RESOLVED THAT AT ANY TIME AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION THE SPEAKER MAY, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 2-B OF RULE 18, DECLARE THE HOUSE RESOLVED INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL, H.R. 1938. TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEDITE THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. OIL PIPELINE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE FIRST READING OF THE BILL SHALL BE DISPENSED WITH, ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL ARE WAIVED. GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE CONFINED TO THE BILL AND SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE HOUR WITH 30 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE, 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND 10 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES. AFTER GENERAL DEBATE, THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE. IT SHALL BE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE NOW PRINTED IN THE BILL. THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE ARE WAIVED. NO AMENDMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE IN ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN THE REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES ACCOMPANYING THIS RESOLUTION. EACH SUCH AMENDMENT MAY BE OFFERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT, MAY BE OFFERED ONLY BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT, SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO A DEMAND FOR DIVISION OF THE QUESTION IN THE HOUSE OR IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST SUCH AMENDMENTS ARE WAIVED. AT THE CONCLUSION OF CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL FOR AMENDMENTS, THE COMMITTEE SHALL RISE AND REPORT THE BILL TO THE HOUSE WITH SUCH AMENDMENTS AS MAY HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. ANY MEMBER MAY DEMAND A SEPARATE VOTE IN THE HOUSE ON ANY AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO THE BILL OR TO THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS ORDERED ON THE BILL AND AMENDMENTS THERETO TO FINAL PASSAGE WITHOUT INTERVENING MOTION EXCEPT, ONE, MOTION TO RECOMMIT WITH OR -- EXCEPT ONE MOTION TO RECOMMIT WITH OR WITHOUT INSTRUCTION.

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  • 12:33:52 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE HOUR.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THIS BILL HAS MOVED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT…

    THIS BILL HAS MOVED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED -- DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING IN THE EXTRAORDINARY TO DO. DISTILLED IN SIMPLEST FORM, IT DIRECTS THE PRESIDENT TO MAKE A DECISION. IT DOES NOT PRESCRIBE HIS DECISION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, IT JUST SIMPLY ASKS HIM TO ACT, SAY YES OR SAY NO. AFTER NEARLY THREE YEARS OF REVIEW, STUDY AND COMMENT THE PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO ISSUE A PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT, PERMITTING THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. THIS BILL DOES NOT ALLOW ANY CORNERS TO BE CUT, ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS TO BE GLOSSED OVER. IN FACT, NOT ONLY HAS IT REQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT TO BE EXECUTED BUT SEVERAL SUPPLEMENTAL STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN PERFORMED AS WELL. FURTHERMORE, UPON RECEIPT OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT BUT NOT LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1, THE PRESIDENT STILL HAS AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS TO WEIGH THE EVIDENCE AND MAKE UP HIS MIND. AFTER NEARLY THREE YEARS HE'S NOT HAVE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT NOR DISAPPROVE THE PROBABLY, HE SIMPLY HAS TO MAKE A DECISION. AND WHAT EXACTLY IS AT STAKE? WHAT HINGES UPON THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THIS MONUMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT? AMERICAN JOB CREATION, OVERDUE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND INCREASED NATIONAL ENERGY SECURITY. TRANSCANADA BELIEVES THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL CREATE ABOUT 20,000 SHOVEL-READY CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING JOBS ADDING $6.5 BILLION IN PERSONAL INCOME FOR THOSE WORKERS. IT INJECTS MORE THAN $20 BILLION IN PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT IN THE U.S. ECONOMY. IT GENERATES MORE THAN $585 MILLION IN TAXES. IT PAYS MORE THAN $5.2 BILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES DURING THE LIFE OF THE PIPELINE. UNDENIABLY STRENGTHENS AMERICA'S ENERGY SECURITY BY ENABLING TO EXPAND THE EXPORTATION OF 80,000 BARRELS OF OIL A DAY FROM OUR -- 80,000 BARRELS A DAY FROM OUR U.S. -- 830,000 BARRELS A DAY FROM OUR NEIGHBOR AND ALLY. ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE, IF THE PIPELINE IS NOT APPROVED, QUOTE, THE U.S. WOULD NOT RECEIVE A RELIABLE AND COST EFFICIENT, SECURE SOURCE OF CRUDE OIL FROM CANADA AND WOULD REMAIN DEPENDENT UPON UNSTABLE FOREIGN OIL SUPPLIES FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, AFRICA, MEXICO AND SOUTH AMERICA, END OF QUOTE. ONCE AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS RULE AND THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. RELEVANT COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION HAVE WORKED TO PROVIDE US WITH A BIPARTISAN BILL WHICH AS ITS CORE IS QUITE SIMPLE. IT SIMPLY DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE A DECISION ON AMERICA'S ENERGY AND SECURITY AND JOB CREATION. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES ON THE RULE AND YES ON THE UNDERLYING BILL AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:34:59 PM

    MR. WEBSTER

    BILL AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. HASTINGS, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:38:11 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER, AND I THANK MY FRIEND FOR YIELDING AND…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER, AND I THANK MY FRIEND FOR YIELDING AND COMPLIMENT HIM ON HIS SUNSHINE TIE OVER THERE WITH ALL THAT WONDERFUL FLORIDA SPEAKOUT. YOU TOO, MR. SPEAKER, YOU KIND OF LOOK PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT COLOR. WE MUST BE TAKING A PICTURE OR SOMETHING AROUND HERE TODAY. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE RULE FOR H.R. 1938 AND FEEL THAT MUCH LIKE THE MAJORITY'S PREVIOUS LEGISLATION ATTEMPTS TO INCREASE OFFSHORE DRILLING THIS BACKWARDS-LOOKING, DIRTY ENERGY BILL WILL NOT LOWER THE PRICE OF GASOLINE FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TODAY, TOMORROW OR IN THE FUTURE. IT MANAGES, THIS BILL DOES, TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE PRESSING NEED TO DEVELOP CLEAN, SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. IN FACT, ONLY THE LARGE OIL COMPANIES WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS BILL. IN ITS VERY AMPLECATION FOR THE KEYSTONE -- APPLICATION FOR THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE EXTRACTION, IT PLEEVES THIS EXPANSION WILL ACTUALLY RAISE OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES. THE PIPELINE EXPANSION CONNECTS CANADIAN OIL TO THE GULF OF MEXICO, MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO SHIFT TAR, SAND, OIL OUT ONTO THE WORLD MARKET FOR THE FIRST TIME. THE PIPELINE WILL ALLOW TRANSCANADA TO BYPASS THE MIDWEST, REDUCING WHAT THE COMPANY CALLED, AND I QUOTE, PRICE DISCOUNTING, UNQUOTE IN THE MIDWEST DUE TO WHAT IT CONSIDERS AN, I QUOTE, OVERSUPPLY, UNQUOTE. THE OIL WILL RUN PAST MONTANA RIGHT THROUGH TEXAS, IGNORE NEBRASKA COMPLETELY AND WAVE GOODBYE TO THE UNITED STATES WHILE IT RIDES RIGHT OUT OF THE COUNTRY. PROVIDING CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES ACCESS TO THIS NEW MARKET IS THE ONLY REASON TO WANT TO EXPAND THE PIPELINE. TRANSCANADA'S APPLICATION ACTUALLY INDICATES THAT IT EXPECTS THE PRICE OF CRUDE OIL TO INCREASE BY $6.55 PER BARREL IN THE MIDWEST AND $3 EVERYWHERE ELSE AFTER THE EXPANSION IS COMPLETED. ULTIMATELY THE EXPANSION WOULD LEAD TO A WINDFALL FOR CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES OF BETWEEN $2 BILLION AND $3.9 BILLION BY THE YEAR 2013 WHILE INCREASING THE COST OF GASOLINE FOR HARDWORKING AMERICANS BETWEEN 10 CENTS AND 20 CENTS PER GALLON. THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BEAR ALL THE RISK OF AN ONSHORE OIL SPILL AND REAP ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE BENEFITS. LET THERE BE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS, THE RISK AN OIL SPILL FROM THESE -- RISK OF AN OIL SPILL FROM THESE TAR SAND PIPELINES IS VERY REAL. THE OIL IS SO MUCH MORE CORROSIVE THAN TRADITIONAL CRUDE OIL THAT EVEN CANADA HAS YET TO APPROVE A DEDICATED PIPELINE CONVEYING IT TO ITS COAST. LEADING TO FREQUENT SPILLS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE VERY PIPELINE FOR WHICH THE MAJORITY BILL HASTENS EXPANSION SUFFERED 12 SPILLS IN ITS VERY FIRST YEAR. THE FIRST SPILL IN JUNE, 2010, OCCURRED ONLY ONE MONTH AFTER THE PIPELINE WENT INTO OPERATION. JUST THIS LAST MAY THE KEYSTONE SPEWED 21,000 GALLONS OF OIL IN NORTH DAKOTA. ALREADY, MR. SPEAKER, AMERICANS ARE PAYING THE PRICE FOR A PROJECT WHICH DELIVERS TO THEM ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT. A SIMILAR PIPELINE RECENTLY DISCHARGED 840,000 GALLONS OF OIL INTO MICHIGAN'S RIVER CAUSING ONE OF THE LARGEST OIL SPILLS EVER IN THE MIDWEST. ON JULY 1, A PIPELINE BROKE AND SPEWED APPROXIMATELY 42,000 GALLONS OF OIL INTO THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER. BETWEEN 1990 AND 2005 THERE WERE OVER 4,700 RELATED OIL SPILLS. THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE EXPANSION WOULD EXPAND THE RISK OF A B.P.-SIZED OIL SPILL FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO TO FRONT YARDS ACROSS THE HEART OF THIS COUNTRY. AFTER ITS INITIAL IMPACT STATEMENT RECEIVED HARSH AND EXTENSIVE CRITICISM, THE STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT STATEMENT, THE PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT DRAFT CLOSED ON JUNE 6. THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE COMMENTS IT RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THIS SECOND STATEMENT AND A PROCESS EXPECTED TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. NONETHELESS THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS REASONABLY INDICATED THAT A DECISION CAN BE EXPECTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. YET THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE A DECISION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1. WITHOUT FURTHER JUSTIFICATION REPUBLICANS SEEM TO THINK IT NECESSARY TO SHORTCUT THE PROCESS. COMPROMISING THE DISCUSSION AND ITS ANALYSIS. THERE ARE STILL MANY QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED REGARDING THE PIPELINE, INCLUDING INFORMATION ON GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, SAFETY, ALTERNATIVE ROUTES AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONSIDERATION. THIS YEAR THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HAS OFFERED THREE OFFSHORE DRILLING BILLS THAT HAVE UTTERLY FAILED TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. IT'S CLEAR THAT MY FRIENDS ON THE MAJORITY ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH KEEPING BIG OIL COMPANIES HAPPY THAN IMPLEMENTING A WORKABLE ENERGY POLICY FOR THE FUTURE. INSTEAD OF CRAFTING POLICIES TO ENSURE THAT THE GROWING, SUSTAINABLE ENERGY INDUSTRY IS FILLED WITH AMERICAN WORKERS, THE MAJORITY WANTS TO ENRICH CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES AT A COST OF AMERICA'S ECONOMY AND ENVIRONMENT. THESE KINDS OF DIRTY ENERGY BILLS KEEP US MIRED IN THE MUCK OF FOSSIL FUELS WHEN WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON MAKING OUR ENERGY USE MORE EFFICIENT. . UNFORTUNATELY REPUBLICANS SEEM INTENT ON ENABLING OUR COUNTRY'S OIL ADDICTION. THIS IS NOT GOOD POLICY AND WILL CERTAINLY BE NOT GOOD POLICY IN THE FUTURE. MR. SPEAKER, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:45:59 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. HASTINGS, RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. HASTINGS, RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:46:03 PM

    MR. WEBSTER

    I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. BARTON.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 12:46:09 PM

    MR. BARTON

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM FLORIDA FOR THE TIME. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO…

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM FLORIDA FOR THE TIME. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

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  • 12:46:17 PM

    MR. BARTON

    AM PUZZLED BY CONGRESSMAN HASTINGS' REMARKS IN OPPOSITION TO THE RULE.…

    AM PUZZLED BY CONGRESSMAN HASTINGS' REMARKS IN OPPOSITION TO THE RULE. THIS IS A VERY FAIR RULE. THE RULES COMMITTEE RECEIVED 13 AMENDMENTS FROM THE MINORITY. THEY MADE IN ORDER 11 OF THOSE. ONE AMENDMENT WAS NOT GERMANE AND THE OTHER AMENDMENT BY MR. MARKEY WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED THE OIL TO THE UNITED STATES AND NOT ALLOWED ANY OF THE PRODUCT TO BE REFINED AND SENT OVERSEAS POSSIBLY. AND THAT'S A FUNCTION THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE FELT SHOULD BE A MARKET FUNCTION AND NOT PROHIBITED. SO 11 AMENDMENTS BY THE MINORITY WERE MADE IN ORDER. THIS IS A BILL THAT CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE, THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, ON A BIPARTISAN VOTE. ALL THE REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED IT IN BETWEEN A FOURTH AND THIRD OF THE DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED IT. THE UNDERLYING THESIS OF THE BILL IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. UNDER CURRENT LAW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A DECISION ON PIPELINE PERMITS BETWEEN 180 AND 190 DAYS. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION E.P.A. HAS HAD TWO YEARS ON THEIR WATCH AND ONE YEAR UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THE E.P.A. HAS HAD OVER THREE YEARS, IF YOU COUNT TOWARDS THIS SEPTEMBER, NEXT MONTH, OR RIGHT AFTER AUGUST, AND HAS NOT MADE A DECISION. THE BILL SAYS MAKE A DECISION. MAKE A DECISION. THERE IS AN EXISTING PIPELINE, THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE, WOULD CONNECT AN EXISTING PIPELINE THAT ENDS IN THE MIDWEST TO THE GULF COAST. IT WOULD GO TO CONGRESSMAN POE'S DISTRICT IN PORT ARTHUR AND GO OVER INTO LOUISIANA. IT WOULD CREATE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN CONSTRUCTION. IT WOULD BRING APPROXIMATELY A MILLION BARRELS OF OIL PER DAY INTO THE UNITED STATES TO PROVIDE COMPETITION FOR EXISTING OIL SUPPLIES. IT WOULD BE REFINED IN U.S. REFINERIES, AND MOST OF THE PROBLEM IF NOT ALL WOULD PROBABLY BE CONSUMED BY U.S. CONSUMERS. THIS IS A GOOD BILL. THIS IS A GOOD RULE. I WOULD ASK THAT WE SUPPORT THE RULE AND THEN LISTEN TO THE DEBATE AND HOPEFULLY DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL. I WANT TO THANK MY FRIEND FROM FLORIDA FOR HIS TIME AND I WOULD YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. TO CONGRESSMAN WEBSTER.

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  • 12:48:44 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. IF I COULD ENGAGE MR. BARTON JUST A MOMENT, I…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. IF I COULD ENGAGE MR. BARTON JUST A MOMENT, I YIELD MYSELF 30 SECONDS.

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  • 12:48:55 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    TO KNOW IF THIS WILL CAUSE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE TO GO DOWN IN YOUR…

    TO KNOW IF THIS WILL CAUSE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE TO GO DOWN IN YOUR JUDGMENT?

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  • 12:49:01 PM

    MR. BARTON

    MY JUDGMENT, IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, IN MY JUDGMENT PROVIDING MORE…

    MY JUDGMENT, IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD, IN MY JUDGMENT PROVIDING MORE FULL SUPPLY FOR OUR REFINERIES WOULD LIKEN THE POSSIBILITY THAT PRICES WOULD GO DOWN.

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  • 12:49:11 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    LIKELY, POSSIBILITY. I'LL TAKE THAT PRETTY MUCH AS A NO.

  • 12:49:17 PM

    MR. BARTON

    YES. DRIVES THE PRICES DOWN.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M VERY PLEASED TO YIELD TO MY GOOD FRIEND FROM…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M VERY PLEASED TO YIELD TO MY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, TWO MINUTES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 12:49:28 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND FROM FLORIDA. I RISE IN…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND FROM FLORIDA. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS RULE AND I RISE IN OPPOSITION ON SUBSTANTIVE GROUNDS. THE RULES COMMITTEE APPROVED FOR OUR CONSIDERATION HERE ON THE FLOOR EVERY GERMANE AMENDMENT BUT ONE, THE MARKEY-CONNOLLY AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A SIMPLE CERTIFICATION THAT THE BULK OF THIS OIL TO BE TRANSPORTED BY THIS PROPOSED PIPELINE BE FOR A DESIGNATED FOR DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION. WE HEAR A LOT OF RHETORIC ABOUT THE NEED TO EXPAND AMERICAN PRODUCTION AND/OR ACCESS TO SECURE OIL TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN SUPPLIERS. THAT INDEED IS A NOBLE GOAL. IT'S ONE WHICH I SHARE. BUT NOT AT ANY PRICE. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE SOLD A PIG IN A POKE. THE FACT THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE WOULD NOT PUT THAT AMENDMENT ON THIS FLOOR GOING INTO CONTENT RATHER THAN PROCEDURE, FINDING IT GERMANE BUT STILL NOT ALLOWING A FAIR DEBATE AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS FLOOR I THINK GIVES A LIE TO THE INTEND BEHIND THE PIPELINE. THIS OIL IS NOT FOR DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION. THIS OIL IS FOR FOREIGN EXPORT. IT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH DOMESTIC OIL SUPPLY OR IT MIGHT HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH DOMESTIC OIL SUPPLY. A SIMPLE REQUIREMENT THAT THE PREPONDERANCE OF IT BE FOR DOMESTIC SUPPLY I THINK WOULD HAVE MADE PRUDENT DOMESTIC POLICY, AND I THINK WOULD HAVE ALLOWED A FAIR AND INTEREST DEBATE HERE ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. AS TO WHAT THE REAL INTENTION OF THIS PIPELINE IS. SO I SAY TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, I URGE YOU NOT TO BE FOOLED BY PROPOSITIONS FROM THE OTHER SIDE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS. THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR CHINESE CONSUMERS. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:51:34 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:51:38 PM

    MR. WEBSTER

    I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. POE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 12:51:44 PM

    MR. POE

    GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA FOR YIELDING. ALSO ADMIRE THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA FOR YIELDING. ALSO ADMIRE THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA WITH THE EXOTIC TIE AND HIS COMMENTS. BUT I STAND IN SUPPORT OF THE RULE AND OF COURSE THE UNDERLYING BILL. THE RULE IS A FAIR RULE. I REPRESENT SOUTHEAST TEXAS. WE STILL THINK WE ARE THE ENERGY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. THE PIPELINE FROM CANADA WILL GO DOWN INTO SOUTHEAST TEXAS, PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT. THE PIPELINE WILL GO TO THE REFINERIES, THE REFINERIES WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND AND HIRE REFINERY WORKERS. TO REFINE THAT CRUDE OIL. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THE CANADIAN OIL SANDS PRODUCE -- WOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE 175 BARRELS OF OIL RESERVES SECOND ONLY TO SAUDI ARABIA. THE IDEA WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM MIDDLE EASTERN OIL IS A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE WE OUGHT TO SUPPORT OUR ALLIES, OUR LOYAL ALLIES THAT ARE IN A STABLE COUNTRY. A MEDIUM-SIZED PIPELINE, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS, PUMPS ABOUT 150,000 BARRELS A DAY. TO REPLACE THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 75 TRUCKS A DAY OR 75-CAR TRAIN EVERY DAY. PIPELINES ARE THE SAFEST WAY TO TRANSPORT CRUDE OIL. 75% OF THE ACCIDENTS OCCUR WITH A THIRD PARTY CAUSING THE ACCIDENT TO THE PIPELINE. BUT IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO DO, AND AS MY FRIEND FROM FLORIDA KNOWS, BEING FORMER JUDGES, WE MADE DECISIONS. IT DIDN'T TAKE US THREE YEARS TO MAKE A DECISION. YOU GET THE EVIDENCE, YOU MAKE A RULING. AND IT'S TAKEN, I THINK, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAY TOO LONG TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS ISSUE. BUT FAILURE TO ACT, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY, IS TANTAMOUNT TO A NO. AND EVENTUALLY THE CANADIANS WILL SELL THAT CRUDE OIL THAT THEY HAVE TO CHINA. OR OTHER BUYERS. SO I THINK IT'S QUITE IMPORTANT THAT WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DECISION, HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RULE ON THIS ISSUE. THERE ARE 500,000 MILES OF PIPELINES IN THE UNITED STATES. ABOUT HALF OF THOSE RUN THROUGH TEXAS. I'M TOLD THAT A THIRD OF ALL THOSE PIPELINES RUN THROUGH MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PIPELINES. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, USE A SAFE PRODUCT FROM CANADA, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS ARE IMPOSED IN MAKING THIS PIPELINE. TO CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA. BUILD THE PIPELINE, CREATE JOBS IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS FOR AMERICANS IN THE REFINERY BUSINESS BECAUSE WE STILL RELY ON CRUDE OIL. LAST I WOULD SAY I AGREE. WE NEED TO EVENTUALLY HAVE GREEN ENERGY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. SO IF WE CUT OFF ALL OF THIS, WHAT WILL WE USE? I URGE SUPPORT OF THE RULE. I URGE ADOPTION OF THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION, AMERICAN JOBS, AND DEAL FAIRLY ON THE ISSUE OF ENERGY, ENERGY RELIANCE UPON OURSELVES AND GETTING THAT FROM OUR ALLIES INSTEAD OF THIRD WORLD DICTATORS LIKE CHAVEZ AND THE MIDDLE EAST. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. HASTINGS, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 12:55:32 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND, JUDGE POE, THAT WE…

    YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND, JUDGE POE, THAT WE ARE STARTING THE GREEN ENERGY MOVEMENT. I READILY UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON PORT ARTHUR, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I ALSO AM DEEPLY CONCERNED FOR THE RANCHERS IN THE IMMEDIATE, 13E6K -- IN THE IMMEDIATE, -- MIDWEST, SPECIFICALLY, MONTANA, NORTH DAKOTA THAT ARE BYPASSED AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THEIR OIL AND GAS COSTING MORE IS AT THE LEAST DISTURBING. BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE A REPORT THAT WAS FORMULATED REGARDING TAR SANDS AND THEIR POTENTIAL BY THE I.H.S. CAMBRIDGE ENERGY RESEARCH ASSOCIATION. AND IT'S UNDER THE IEGIS GROWTH -- AEGIS GROWTH IN THE CANADIAN OIL SAND. WHAT IT IS, AND I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUE FROM FLORIDA TO KNOW THAT I'M THE LAST SPEAKER, SO WHEN I FINISHED I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS YOU HAVE, TAR SANDS WHICH ARE ALSO KNOWN AS OIL SANDS, ARE A COMBINATION OF CLAY, SAND, WATER, AND BITUMIN. A HEAVY BLACK ASPHALT LIKE HYDROCARBON THAT CANNOT EXTRACTED THROUGH A WELL LIKE -- CANNOT BE EXTRACTED THROUGH A WELL LIKE CONVENTIONAL OIL. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT CANADA ECONOMICALLY RECOVERABLE TAR SANDS DEPOSITS IN ALBERTA TOTAL 175 BILLION BARRELS, MAKING CANADA AS JUDGE POE POINTED OUT SECOND AFTER SAUDI ARABIA IN OIL RESERVES. PRODUCING FUEL FROM TAR SANDS HAS SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. EXTRACTING TAR SANDS AND UPGRADING IT TO SYNTHETIC CRUDE OIL PRODUCES ROUGHLY THREE TIMES GREATER GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAN PROUDED IN CONVENTIONAL OIL ON A PER UNIT BASIS. TAR SANDS DEVELOPMENT ALSO DESTROY FOREST AND WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE HABITAT, KILLS MIGRATORY BIRDS, AND DEGRADES WATER QUALITY AND AIR QUALITY. THAT SAID TAR SANDS OIL CONTAIN ON AVERAGE 11 TIMES MORE SULFUR, 11 TIMES MORE NICKEL, SIX TIMES MORE NITROGEN, AND FIVE TIMES MORE LEAD THAN CONVENTIONAL OIL. THESE POLLUTANTS ARE HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH, CAUSING LUNG AND RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS SUCH AS ASTHMA AND BRONCHITIS, AND THE METALS FOUND IN TAR SANDS ARE NEUROTOXINS. THE POLLUTANTS RELEASED BY REFINING TAR SANDS CAUSES ACID RAIN, SMOG, AND HAZE, AND COMMUNITIES LIVING NEAR THESE REFINERIES REPORT ELEVATED LEVELS OF CANCER. MR. SPEAKER, THE BILL BEFORE US OVERRIDES CURRENT LAW FOR THE SAKE OF PADDING THE POCKETS OF OIL COMPANIES -- COMPANY C.E.O.'S AND FAILS TO CREATE SIGNIFICANT SUSTAINABLE JOBS FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN IN THE GROWING SUSTAINABLE ENERGY SECTOR. THIS BILL WILL NEVER BECOME LAW AND IS ONCE AGAIN A WASTE OF OUR TIME. I OPPOSE THIS OPPORTUNITYISTIC LEGISLATION FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS I MADE IT VERY CLEAR AS HAVE OTHERS, BUT I HAVE MADE THE VOW TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING IN THE FIGHT AGAINST EXPANDING OFFSHORE DRILLING AND I MAY BE AMONG THOSE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST TRANSBORDER TAR SANDS BEING TRANSMITTED HERE FOR PURPOSES OF GOING OUT ON TO THE WORLD MARKET AN NOT ALLOWING FOR ANY REDUCTION IN THE COST OF GASOLINE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THE RULE AND THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. AND I'M AT THIS TIME, MR. SPEAKER, PREPARED TO YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA MR. HASTINGS, YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA MR. HASTINGS, YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, IS RECOGNIZED. .

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    MR. WEBSTER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS RULE PROVIDES FOR AN AMPLE OPEN DEBATE,…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS RULE PROVIDES FOR AN AMPLE OPEN DEBATE, ALLOWING OUR COLLEAGUES FROM ACROSS THE AISLE TO OFFER LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS TO THIS BILL. FURTHERMORE, THE UNDERLYING BILL ADDRESSES TWO CRITICAL CONCERNS. IF YOU LISTEN TO THE SPEECHES MADE IN THIS CHAMBER EVERY DAY AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE, UNEMPLOYMENT AND DEPENDENCE ON OPEC OIL. AS I HAVE STATED, 20,000 SHOVEL-READY JOBS CAN BE CREATED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. APPROVAL OF KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL ALSO SERVE TO INCREASE OIL IMPORTS FROM OUR FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR IN THE NORTH, CANADA, WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE DEPENDENCE ON OIL FROM COUNTRIES WHICH ARE FRANKLY NOT -- THEY DO NOT SHARE OUR IDEAS ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM. MOST IMPORTANTLY THIS BILL DOES NOT FORCE THE PRESIDENT TO APPROVE THIS JOB-CREATING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. IT SIMPLY ASKS HIM AND REQUIRES OF HIM TO MAKE UP HIS MIND. AFTER COORDINATING ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE STAKEHOLDERS AND COORDINATING WITH THEM. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME TODAY IN VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS RULE AND PASSAGE OF THE UNDERLYING BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND I MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON RESOLUTION.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEBSTER, YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. HASTINGS.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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    THE CLERK

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL…

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL H.R. 13938, TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO EXAT THE DIED THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. OIL PIPELINE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR…

    THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 246 AND THE NAYS ARE 171 AND THE RESOLUTION IS…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 246 AND THE NAYS ARE 171 AND THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS -- WITHOUT OBJECTION IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. VOTE VOTE -- THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE VOTE ON THE MOTION BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

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    THE CLERK

    H.R. 1383, AN ACT TO TEMPORARILY PRESERVE HIGHER RATES FOR TUITION AND…

    H.R. 1383, AN ACT TO TEMPORARILY PRESERVE HIGHER RATES FOR TUITION AND FEES FOR PROGRAMS OF EDUCATION AND NONPUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING PURSUED BY INDIVIDUALS ENROLLED IN THE POST-9/11 EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OF THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS BEFORE THE ENHANCED OF THE POST-9/11 VETERANS EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE IMPROVEMENT ACT OF 2011 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SENATE AMENDMENT. SPOIPT QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND CONCUR IN THE SENATE AMENDMENT. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 422 AND THE NAYS ARE ZERO. 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING…

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 422 AND THE NAYS ARE ZERO. 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, --

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 424 AND THE NAYS ARE ZERO. 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 424 AND THE NAYS ARE ZERO. 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED, THE SENATE AMENDMENTS ARE AGREED TO AND WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE QUESTION ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL ON WHICH THE YEAS AND NAYS WERE ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON AGREEING TO THE SPEAKER'S APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INSERT EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL ON THE BILL.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 1938. THE CHAIR APPOINTS THE GENTLELADY FROM MISSOURI, MRS. EMERSON, TO PRESIDE OVER THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 1938, WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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    THE CLERK

    CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE…

    CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE OIL PIPELINE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE THE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME.…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE THE, THE BILL IS CONSIDERED AS READ THE FIRST TIME. GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE CONFINED TO THE BILL AND SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE HOUR WITH 30 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE. 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND 10 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY, MR. WHITFIELD, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. WAXMAN, EACH WILL CONTROL 15 MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. MICA, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. HASTINGS, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY ONCE THE HOUSE -- WILL BE IN ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. WILL ALWAYS MEMBER PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND, PLEASE. THE COMMITTEE IS NOT IN ORDER. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND, PLEASE. THE COMMITTEE IS NOT IN ORDER. THE CHAIR ASKS ALL MEMBERS TO TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE THE COMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN MAY PROCEED.

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    THE CHAIR

    TIME. THE

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    DIRECTION. THERE ARE MANY

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    THE CHAIR

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT

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    MR. WAXMAN

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT

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    THE CHAIR

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT

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    MR. WLITFIELD

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT

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    THE CHAIR

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT

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    MR. UPTON

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT WOULD HAVE AN INFLUX OF OIL IN THE MARKET.…

    EAST SUPPORT ON OIL. IT WOULD HAVE AN INFLUX OF OIL IN THE MARKET. THREATENED SUPPLIES IN NORTH AFRICA SENDS THE GAS PRICES INTO ORBIT. THE UNCERTAINTY HAS GONE ON TOO LONG AND IF WE DON'T ACT THESE ENERGY SUPPLIES WILL GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS LEGISLATION, H.R. 1938. THIS BIPARTISAN BILL DOESN'T TELL THE PRESIDENT HOW TO DECIDE, IT JUST REQUIRES THEM TO MAKE A DECISION. I COMMEND MY COLLEAGUES, LEE TERRY -- LEE, TERRY AND ROSS FOR FINDING A BIPARTISAN AND COMMONSENSE SOLUTION. IF WE DON'T FIND THIS PIPELINE CANADA WILL FIND ANOTHER BUYER. THE CHINESE HAVE SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN ALBERTA'S OIL SANDS. ARE WE GOING TO STAND BY AND WATCH OUR ALLY GET THE OIL? I SURE HOPE NOT. WHILE I BELIEVE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PIPELINE IS NECESSARY AND IMPORTANT, I KNOW IT HAS TO BE DONE SAFELY. LAST YEAR 20,000 BARRELS OF OIL DID SPILL THROUGH A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH MY DISTRICT AND I MADE PIPELINE SAFETY A PRIORITY IN OUR COMMITTEE AND JUST THIS WEEK WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD ON AN EFFECTIVE PIPELINE SAFETY LEGISLATION TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND, YES, OUR COMMUNITIES. THIS LEGISLATION WILL ENSURE THAT CRUCIAL ENERGY SUPPLIES, LIKE THE OIL RECEIVED FROM CANADA, IS TRANSPORTED SAFELY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. WE NEED A YES BILL ON THIS -- YES VOTE ON THIS BIPARTISAN VOTE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:17:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. WAXMAN

    I YIELD TO MY FELLOW CALIFORNIAN, A MEMBER OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE…

    I YIELD TO MY FELLOW CALIFORNIAN, A MEMBER OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, LOIS CAPPS, TWO MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MRS. CAPPS

    I RISE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS HAZARDOUS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. H.R. 1938…

    I RISE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS HAZARDOUS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. H.R. 1938 DIRECTS THE PRESIDENT TO ALLOW CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES TO BUILD A DANGEROUS PIPELINE THROUGH AMERICAN LANDS AND WATERS. AND H.R. 1938 WOULD EXPEDITE THE PIPELINE'S PERMITTING PROCESS DESPITE A LONG LIST OF UNADDRESSED CONCERNS FROM NUMEROUS COMMUNITIES. THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THIS PIPELINE, WHICH WOULD EXTEND OVER 1,600 MILES THROUGH SIX STATES HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY CONSIDERED AND WE KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT DAMAGE CAN BE DONE. THERE HAVE BEEN 12 SPILLS ALONG TRANS-CANADA'S KEYSTONE PIPELINE DURING THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE OPERATION. AND THE PIPELINE WILL DELIVER SOME OF THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE OIL ON THE PLANET. TAR SANDS OIL CONTAINING TOXIC CHEMICALS LIKE SULFUR, NICKEL, LEAD, AND A BARREL OF TAR SANDS OIL EMITTS MORE THAN THREE TIMES MORE GASES THAN TRADITIONAL OIL. THIS WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF ADDING MORE THAN 600,000 PASSENGER VEHICLES IN A HIGHWAY OR CONSTRUCTING THROUGH NEW COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS. THIS MAJOR CONCERN ARISES ABOUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE PIPELINE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AT A TIME WHEN WE MUST FIND WAYS TO END OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOSSIL FUELS, IT IS SIMPLY NOT IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST TO DEEPEN OUR RELIANCE ON ONE OF THE MOST DIRTIEST FORMS OF OIL ON THE PLANET. I BELIEVE THE CONDUCTING THE APPROPRIATE ANALYSIS UNDERNEATH US WHICH CANNOT BE DONE PROPERLY IF IT'S RUSHED WILL MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD BY SUPPORTING CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY IN THIS COUNTRY. WHILE THE PRESIDENT IS CALLING FOR A REDUCTION ON OIL IMPORTS, THIS BILL CALLS FOR AN INCREASE. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO AGAINST H.R. 1938. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL, MR.…

    AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL, MR. TERRY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS BILL IS SIMPLE BUT THE RAMIFICATIONS MAY BE…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS BILL IS SIMPLE BUT THE RAMIFICATIONS MAY BE SIGNIFICANT. LET ME SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. I WANT TO GET OFF OPEC OIL. RECEIVING AS MUCH AS 700,000 BARRELS OF OIL FROM OUR NORTHERN NEIGHBOR, CANADA, MAKES US MORE ENERGY SECURE, MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PIPELINE, AN EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE OIL FROM ONE TO THE PART, WE ARE SHY OF THREE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY WHICH NORMALLY IT'S 18 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS APPROVED. NOW, THIS BILL SETS A HARD DATE OF NOVEMBER 1, 2011, FOR THE PRESIDENT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF NATIONAL INTEREST ON THIS PIPELINE. LET ME REPEAT. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THE PRESIDENT MAKE HIS DECISION BY NOVEMBER 2. ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED. NOW, WHAT DO WE SEE IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD? IT WILL BE A $13 BILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT PRIVATELY FUNDED. IT WILL CREATE AT LEAST 20,000 DIRECT HIGH-PAYING LABOR CONSTRUCTION JOBS. IT WILL GENERATE $6.5 BILLION IN NEW PERSONAL INCOME FOR U.S. WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. IT WILL SPUR MORE THAN $20 BILLION IN NEW SPENDING FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY. IT WILL STIMULATE MORE THAN $585 MILLION IN NEW STATE AND LOCAL TAXES. IT WILL DELIVER $5.2 BILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES DURING THE ESTIMATED LIFE SPAN OF THIS PIPELINE. NOW, WE HAVE HEARD FROM TWO SPEAKERS ALREADY ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. I COME FROM NEBRASKA. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PIPELINE IS SAFE AS IT PASSES THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA CALLED THE SAND HILLS AND THROUGH THE OGALLALA AQUIFER. THERE HAVE BEEN SUPPLEMENTS. IT HAS SHOWN IT CAN BE DONE SAFELY. THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST STUDIED PIPELINE IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. I BELIEVE IT'S IN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY FROM. IT'S ABOUT JOBS, THE ECONOMY AND ENERGY SECURITY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. WAXMAN

    MADAM CHAIR, I YIELD AT THIS TIME TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS,…

    MADAM CHAIR, I YIELD AT THIS TIME TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. GREEN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. GREEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK MY COLLEAGUE, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK MY COLLEAGUE, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE, FOR YIELDING ME TIME. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938. I REPRESENT A DISTRICT AT THE END OF THE -- THIS PROPOSED PIPELINE IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS. I HAVE FIVE REFINERIES IN OUR DISTRICT AND THIS WILL GIVE THEM AN ALTERNATIVE FOR CRUDE OIL TO KEEP THOSE REFINERIES RUNNING. NORTH AMERICAN OIL SANDS IS A VITAL SOURCE OF ENERGY FOR THE U.S. WITH SKYROCKETING FUEL PRICES. I BELIEVE IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE U.S. DIVERSIFY THEIR ENERGY SOURCES. AS THE LARGEST SINGLE IMPORTER, CANADA HAS HELPED REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON ENERGY SUPPLIES FROM UNFRIENDLY NATIONS AND THIS PARTNERSHIP SHOULD CONTINUED. TRANS-CAN DA HAS AGREED TO COMPLY WITH 57 ADDITIONAL SPECIAL CONDITIONS DEVELOPED BY THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS AND SAFETY MATERIALS ADMINISTRATION FOR THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE PROJECT. IT'S GONE SO FAR THAT THE CONDITIONS WILL RESULT IN A PROJECT THAT HAS A LARGER DEGREE OF SAFETY OVER ANY OTHER CONSTRUCTED DOMESTIC OIL PIPELINE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE OR LAW AND SAFETY ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PIPELINE SIMILAR TO WHATEVER WE HAVE IN HIGH CONSEQUENCE AREAS. ADDITIONALLY, AN INDEPENDENT STUDY SHOWED THAT THE $7 BILLION KEYSTONE PIPELINE WILL DIRECTLY CREATE 20,000 HIGHWAY, MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION JOBS IN THE U.S. SO NOT ONLY WILL THIS PROJECT HELP OUR ENERGY SECURITY BUT IT WILL HELP OUR RECOVERING ECONOMY BY CREATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS. I'M CONSTANTLY HEARING FROM MY BUILDING TRADES IN THE HOUSTON AREA ABOUT THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS PIPELINE AND THE BILL AND YET NONE OF THIS MATTERS VERY FAIRLY AND DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S DETERMINATION SHOULD BE. INSTEAD IT JUST SAYS EXPEDITE THE DECISION. IT'S BEEN TOO LONG ONCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS COMPLETE. I APPRECIATE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE IS A DECISION MAYBE BY DECEMBER 31. MAYBE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS BILL MOVING IN THE HOUSE. I SUPPORT THE BILL AND ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES' SUPPORT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:24:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    MADAM CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS,…

    MADAM CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. OLSON, FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. OLSON

    HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN…

    HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT. THIS BILL IS A BONA FIDE JOBS BILL AND WILL HAVE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL STRETCH FROM OUR NEIGHBOR AND ALLY, CANADA, THROUGH NORTH DAKOTA, -- THROUGH MONTANA, NORTH DAKOTA, SOUTH DAKOTA, KANSAS, OKLAHOMA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY HOME STATE OF TEXAS. ULTIMATELY TRANSPORTING NEARLY THREE -- 1.3 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL PER DAY. 1.3 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY. AND CREATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS ON ITS JOURNEY TO THE GULF. THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE UP TO 624,000 -- 624,000 JOBS OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS, INCLUDING 50,000 IN THE LONE STAR STATE WITH AN ECONOMIC IMPACT VALUED IN THE BILLIONS. 170 COMPANIES ALONE IN TEXAS WOULD SERVE AS SUPPLIERS. THESE ARE REAL JOBS FOR REAL AMERICANS. THIS IS REAL ENERGY SECURITY FOR AMERICA. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS DETERMINED THIS PIPELINE COULD, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE, UNQUOTE, ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL SOURCES. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS DRAGGED ITS FEET FOR OVER TWO YEARS, INSISTING ON DELAYING THE PROJECT FOR MORE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND REGULATORY HURDLES. IF WE DON'T BREAK THROUGH THIS REGULATORY WALL, CHINA IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE OUR PLACE. THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE, MADAM SPEAKER. IT'S TIME TO APPROVE THE PERMIT. H.R. 1938 WILL ENSURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DOES JUST THAT. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL STRENGTHEN AMERICA'S ECONOMY, REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL AND --

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  • 02:27:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. OLSON

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IN CONCLUSION, THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IN CONCLUSION, THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL STRENGTHEN AMERICA'S ECONOMY, REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL AND PRODUCE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA. IT'S A WIN-WIN-WIN. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ENERGY SECURITY BILL THAT WILL CREATE JOBS, JOBS, JOBS RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA. I THANK YOU AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:28:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. WAXMAN

    MADAM CHAIR, I'M PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    MADAM CHAIR, I'M PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, TWO MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 02:28:12 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS BILL IS A CHARADE. IT PURPORTS TO INCREASE…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS BILL IS A CHARADE. IT PURPORTS TO INCREASE OIL PRODUCTION IN AMERICA, YET, IT WOULD DIRECT CONSTRUCTION OF A PIPELINE DESIGNED TO EXPORT OIL. THERE IS ALREADY ONE KEYSTONE PIPELINE FROM THE TAR SANDS OF ALBERTA INTO AMERICA. THAT PIPELINE TERMINATES IN OKLAHOMA. AND SUPPLIES AMERICA WITH OIL DERIVED FROM TAR SANDS. IF THE REPUBLICANS WANTED TO BRING A BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT WOULD INCREASE DOMESTIC ACCESS TO THIS OIL THEN IT WOULD SUPPORT IT. IN FACT, MR. MARKEY AND I INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT OIL FROM THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE WOULD BENEFIT AMERICAN CONSUMERS AND IT WASN'T ALLOWED ON THE FLOOR. THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP WOULDN'T EVEN LET THIS AMENDMENT COME FOR DEBATE. THEY CLAIM THAT THE PIPELINE WILL DELIVER OIL TO AMERICA BUT USED A BACK DOOR PROCEDURAL TRICK. IT WAS THE ONLY GERMANE AMENDMENT WHICH WAS BLOCKED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE. WHY? BECAUSE IT GIVES LIE TO THE REAL INTENT OF THIS BILL. OIL FOR EXPORT, NOT FOR DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION. OUR AMENDMENT DIDN'T INCREASE SPENDING. ALL IT WOULD HAVE DONE WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE OIL WOULD FLOW TO AMERICA RATHER THAN CHINA, CUBA OR SOME OTHER COUNTRY. THE FACT THAT THE REPUBLICANS BLOCKED THIS SIMPLE AMENDMENT SHOWS THAT THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY ISN'T ABOUT AN ENERGY SECURITY OR GAS PRICES BUT ABOUT OIL COMPANY PROFITS AND EXPORTS. IT ISN'T SURPRISING THAT LEADERSHIP WOULD PUT BIG OIL PROFITS AHEAD OF CONSUMERS. THIS IS THE SAME CAUCUS THAT'S DRIVING OUR NATION TOWARD DEFAULT WHILE THEY REFUSE TO CLOSE TAX LOOPHOLES FOR COMPANIES. THIS IS THE SAME CAUCUS THAT GUTTED CLEAN ENERGY WITH THREE DOZEN RIDERS IN THE INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL ACT. AND THE SAME REPUBLICANS WHO OPPOSE USING THE STRATEGIC PETROLEUM RESERVE TO BURST THE SPECULATIVE BUBBLE IN OIL PRICES. THEY MATCHED IN LOCKSTEP WITH BIG OIL COMPANIES SINCE THEY TOOK OVER THE HOUSE MAJORITY AND TODAY THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO PASS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD TAKE GAS FROM AMERICA AND SEND IT OVERSEAS. WE ARE BEING GIVEN A FALSE OPPOSITION TO THIS LEGISLATION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE IT.

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    THE CHAIR

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    MR. WAXMAN

    HEARD COMMENTS ON THE FLOOR AND IN COMMITTEE ON THIS BILL THAT IT'S GOING…

    HEARD COMMENTS ON THE FLOOR AND IN COMMITTEE ON THIS BILL THAT IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO BECOME LESS DEPENDENT, MAYBE NOT EVEN DEPENDENT ON OIL AT ALL ON SAUDI ARABIA. THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND HAVE LOWER PRICES BECAUSE OF THIS PIPELINE. BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT SOME ECONOMISTS BELIEVE THAT THIS OIL PIPELINE WILL BRING OIL TO TEXAS AND THAT OIL EITHER WILL BE REFINED OR SHIPPED AS CRUDE OIL TO CHINA. IT DOESN'T HELP US TO HAVE ANY EXCESS OIL IF IT'S GOING TO BE PICKED UP AND SHIPPED TO CHINA. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS HAVE IN MIND THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA USES 25% OF THE WORLD'S OIL RESOURCES. AND WE HAVE 2% OF THE SOURCE OF THOSE RESOURCES. THE RESERVES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON IMPORTED OIL UNLESS WE START MOVING AWAY FROM OIL ITSELF. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING TO ME.

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  • 02:31:51 PM

    MR. WHITFIELD

    MADAM CHAIR, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY HAS FOUR MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY HAS FOUR MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 02:32:03 PM

    MR. WHITFIELD

    AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA, A MEMBER OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. SCALISE.

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  • 02:32:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM LOUISIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. SCALISE

    YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY FOR YIELDING. I RISE…

    YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS JOBS BILL, THE KEYSTONE BILL, THAT ACTUALLY OPENS UP ANOTHER 700,000 BARRELS A DAY COMING IN TO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA. FIRST OF ALL, THIS OIL WILL BE GOING TO UNITED STATES REFINERIES IN TEXAS TO REFINE OIL FOR AMERICANS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT WILL CREATE ANOTHER 20,000 AMERICAN JOBS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT MEANS, THAT MEANS FIRST OF ALL, CHINA WANTS TO GET THAT OIL FROM CANADA, IF WE DON'T AGREE TO THIS, IF THE PRESIDENT FOR WHATEVER REASON BECAUSE RADICALS DON'T WANT THAT OIL COMING IN. THEY DON'T LIKE OIL AT ALL, SO I GUESS THEY ARE GOING TO RIDE ON BICYCLES AND THAT'S GOING TO GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, WE HAVE TO LIVE IN REALITY. WE HAVE A DEMAND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR OIL AND IT'S EITHER GOING TO COME FROM MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES, MANY OF WHOM DON'T LIKE IT, OR BRING MORE OIL IN NOT ONLY FROM AMERICA WHERE THE UNITED STATES HAS MORE RESERVES THEY WON'T ALLOW US TO UTILIZE, BUT HERE CANADA, SAYING, 700,000 BARRELS CAN COME INTO AMERICA AND CREATE GOOD JOBS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY BUY 700,000 BARRELS A DAY FROM MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR TRADE GAP IS ALL THE MONEY WE SEND TO THESE COUNTRIES BECAUSE WE DON'T PRODUCE OF OUR OWN IN AMERICA BECAUSE OF THESE POLICIES. YOU BRING THAT 700,000 BARRELS A DAY FROM CANADA, THAT'S $25 BILLION A YEAR, $25 BILLION A YEAR THAT WE ARE NOT SENDING TO MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES WHO DON'T LIKE US. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A TRADE GAP, WHEN WE TRADE WITH CANADA, THINK ABOUT THIS, WHEN WE TRADE WITH CANADA, 90 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR COMES BACK TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. CANADA'S A GREAT ALLY, GOOD FRIEND OF OURS. IT'S A GOOD TRADING RELATIONSHIP. WE GET 90% OF THAT MONEY BACK. WHEN WE TRADE WITH MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES, BUYING THEIR OIL, WHICH WE DO RIGHT NOW, LESS THAN HALF OF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE UNITED STATES. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS FROM DOLLARS AND CENTS, FROM JOBS, FROM NATIONAL SECURITY, ALL OF THAT ADDS UP TO PASSING THIS BILL TO BUILD THIS RELATIONSHIP, BUILD THIS PIPELINE WITH CANADA WHO SAYS THEY WANT TO PARTNER WITH US. IF WE TURN THEM DOWN, THEY'LL GO TO CHINA, BUT THEY WANT THIS RELATIONSHIP. THEY WANT TO INCREASE OUR ENERGY SECURITY, CREATE THOSE JOBS.

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  • 02:34:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 02:34:38 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    A BIT CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID HOW MUCH TIME WAS ON EACH SIDE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 02:34:50 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA,…

    PLEASED AT THIS TIME TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON.

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  • 02:34:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 02:34:58 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. JOHNSON

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    CHAIR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT. AT THIS TIME…

    CHAIR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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  • 02:37:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE TO SPEAK ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE, HER 1938. ONE OF MY GOALS HERE IN CONGRESS HAS BEEN TO HELP ADVANCE PROJECTS LIKE THIS, PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP ADVANCE DOMESTIC SOURCES OF ENERGY.

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  • 02:37:50 PM

    MR. GARDNER

    POTENTIALLY ADD ODD AT HOW MANY POTENTIAL WE HAVE AT HOME AND HOW IT WOULD…

    POTENTIALLY ADD ODD AT HOW MANY POTENTIAL WE HAVE AT HOME AND HOW IT WOULD BE SIMPLE TO ADVANCE POLICIES THAT WOULD MAKE US ENERGY INDEPENDENT. I'M CONTINUOUSLY BAFFLED HOW DIFFICULT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE IT TO WEAN OURSELF OFF MIDDLE EASTERN OIL, TO CREATE MORE JOBS AT HOME. THIS BILL ALONE, IN COMMITTEE I LEARNED THAT IT WILL CREATE 6,000 NEW JOBS IN COLORADO. OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. GOOD-PAYING CONSTRUCTION JOBS, FOR EXAMPLE. I'M APPALLED AT THE REGULATORY BURDENS ARE ALMOST WORSE SOMETIMES THE INACTION ON THE PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS LED US DOWN THE PATH OF INSECURITY AND DEPENDENCE ON MANY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE ANIMOSITY TOWARDS US. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN OUR OWN BACKYARD, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE FRIENDLY AND WILLING UNFINISHED BUSINESS LIKE CANADA TO IMPORT OIL INTO THE UNITED STATES. H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT WILL DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE PERMIT AND MOVE US IN THE DIRECTION OF ENERGY SECURITY. AMERICAN JOBS, AMERICAN MADE. I ENCOURAGE THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL.

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  • 02:38:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 02:38:57 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    OF THIS HOUSE, CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL. WE ARE EXPERIENCING ITS EFFECTS.…

    OF THIS HOUSE, CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL. WE ARE EXPERIENCING ITS EFFECTS. ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON POST" ALMOST 2,000 HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORDS HAVE BEEN BROKEN IN TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS AMERICA SINCE THE START OF THE MONTH. ANOTHER 4,300 RECORDS HAVE BEEN SET FOR HIGH OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD SHORT CIRCUIT CONSIDERATION OF A PIPELINE THAT INCREASES OUR CONSUMPTION OF TAR SANDS CRUDE UP TO 40% HIGHER CARBON POLLUTION. THAT IS NOT IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. EVEN THE NATIONAL FARMERS UNION IS URGING OPPOSITION TO THIS LEGISLATION. THEY SAY THAT N.F.U. CONTINUES TO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERN REGARDING THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. AND WE BELIEVE ALL NECESSARY TIME SHOULD BE GIVEN FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT. CONGRESS SHOULD NOT FIX A HARD DEADLINE FOR THIS PROCESS TO BE COMPLETED. I URGE A NO VOTE ON THIS LEGISLATION.

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    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT IN AMERICA TODAY WE ARE USING ABOUT 22…

    I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT IN AMERICA TODAY WE ARE USING ABOUT 22 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL A DAY. WE ARE MILLION BARRELS OF OIL A DAY. IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED MORE EFFICIENCY. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. TO MAKE -- GET BETTER GAS MILEAGE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING MORE PRODUCT INTO THE UNITED STATES. TO DO SO FROM CANADA WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT WOULD CREATE, IT'S BEEN SAID, 20,000 CONSTRUCTION JOBS AT A TIME WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS 9.2%. AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THAT PIPE LIN DOES NOT COME TO AMERICA, IT'S GOING TO GO TO WEST CANADA AND THAT OIL WILL BE GOING TO CHINA. WE HAVE TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THE GLOBAL MARKETPLACE IF WE ARE GOING TO CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA. THAT'S WHAT THIS PIPELINE IS ABOUT. AND I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE NOT SHORT-CIRCUITING ANY STUDIES. COMPREHENSIVE STUDIES HAVE BEEN MADE. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN EXAMINED, AND I WOULD URGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION AND WOULD YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:41:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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  • 02:41:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 02:41:51 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN NATIVE ENERGY SECURITY…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN NATIVE ENERGY SECURITY ACT. AS A MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND PIPELINES, I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY, AND THE ENERGY AND COMMEERS COMMITTEE, HIS COLLEAGUES, HAVE DONE TO BRING THIS BILL FORWARD. IN WHICH WE SHARE JURISDICTION. THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION DIRECTS THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEDITE THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. OIL PIPELINE. THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR FAR TOO LONG. AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEBRASKA POINTED OUT, IT'S ONE MONTH AWAY FROM ITS THREE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY FROM ITS INTRODUCTION. THE TIME HAS COME FOR THE PRESIDENT TO FINALLY MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A DECISION. THIS LEGISLATION REQUIRES, DOESN'T FORCE THE PRESIDENT, TO MAKE A YES OR NO DECISION, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THE PRESIDENT TO ISSUE A FINAL ORDER GRANTING OR DENYING THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT FOR THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1, 2011. THIS $7 BILLION, 1,6700 MILE PIPELINE WOULD LINK CANADA'S TAR SANDS REGION WITH REFINERIES IN THE MIDWEST AND TEXAS. THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE ARE IMMENSE. ESTIMATES OF 465,000 U.S. JOBS BY THE YEAR 2035. ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TALK ON THE HOUSE FLOOR ABOUT TAKING ACTION TO LIMIT OUR DEPENDENCE ON OIL FROM UNSTABLE AREAS OF THE WORLD AND FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS HOSTILE TO U.S. INTEREST. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL MOVE US IN THAT DIRECTION. ACCOMPLISHING THAT GOAL WILL ALSO GROW OUR ECONOMY BY PARTNERING WITH OUR CLOSE FRIEND AND ALLY, CANADA. THE UNITED STATES HAS THE LARGEST NETWORK OF ENERGY PIPELINES OF ANY NATION IN THE WORLD. AND THE PIPELINES REMAIN THE ENERGY LIFELINES THAT POWER NEARLY ALL OF OUR DAILY ACTIVITIES. THE HALLMARK OF AMERICA'S PIPELINE NETWORK CONTINUES TO BE IT DELIVERS EXTRAORDINARY VOLUMES OF PRODUCT RELIABLY, SAFELY, EFISHENTLY, AND ECONOMICALLY. -- EFFICIENTLY, AND ECONOMICALLY. SINCE 1986 THE VOLUME OF ENERGY PRODUCTS TRANSPORTED THROUGH PIPELINES HAS INCREASED BY 1/3, YET THE NUMBER OF REPORTABLE INCIDENTS HAS INCREASED BY 28%. BOTH GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY HAVE TAKEN NUMEROUS STEPS TO IMPROVE PIPELINE SAFETY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. SAFETY ADVOCATES, ENVIRONMENTALISTS IN THE PIPELINE INDUSTRY AGREE THE FEDERAL PIPELINE SAFETY PROGRAM IS WORKING. LATER THIS SUM THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE WILL BRING A BILL TO THE FLOOR TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE FEDERAL PIPELINE SAFETY PROGRAM. WE WILL WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE AS WE BRING OUR BILL TO THE FLOOR TO ENSURE THAT SAFETY REMAINS OUR TOP PRIORITY. THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION WILL ENSURE THE PIPELINES LIKE THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE SAFEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS AND NATURAL GAS. BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED BY WHAT APPEARS TO BE ADVISED BY SOME IN THIS BODY TO NONTRADITIONAL SOURCES OF ENERGY. TO END OUR ALLIANCE FROM OIL FROM OVERSEAS WE MUST DEVELOP THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN NORTH AMERICA, THAT INCLUDES THE OIL SANDS IN CANADA AND MARCELA SHALE AND NATURAL GAS IN MY HOME STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. WE MUST ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE RESOURCES IS DONE RESPONSIBLY AND IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE MANNER, BUT WE CANNOT HOLD THEM BACK AND SHOW A PREJUDICE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE UNCONVENTIONAL. . WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. WE CAN'T NOT DEVELOP OUR RESOURCES IN THE BACK YARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:45:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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  • 02:45:42 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    CHAIR, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. RAHALL

    AS SOMEONE WHO HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING AN AMERICAN-MADE…

    AS SOMEONE WHO HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING AN AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY-PRODUCING STATE, I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF PRODUCING ENERGY HERE AT HOME, AND I BELIEVE MY RECORD ON THIS SUBJECT AND THIS BODY IS WELL-DOCUMENTED. I WANT TO BEGIN, OF COURSE, BY COMPLIMENTING THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS LEGISLATION AS WELL AS CHAIRMAN MICA, THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. AND REPRESENTATIVE CORRINE BROWN. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OR THE LACK THEREOF THAT WAS TAKEN TO BRING THIS LEGISLATION TO THE HOUSE FLOOR FOR LEGISLATION TODAY. THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE HAS PRIMARY JURISDICTION OVER PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION AND SAFETY LEGISLATION. FOLLOWING THIS LONG-STANDING PRECEDENT ON OCTOBER 23, INSTEAD OF CONSIDERING THE LEGISLATION UNDER REGULAR ORDER AS THE COMMITTEE HAS ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST, CHAIRMAN MICA CHOSE TO DISCHARGE THE COMMITTEE FROM CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL. NOW, I SERNED THE COMMITTEE ON T&I, I CAN'T THINK OF THIS COMMITTEE ACTING AS PRIMARY JURISDICTION HAS DISCHARGED ITS CONSIDERATION OF MAJOR LEGISLATION IN THIS MATTER. NOT ONE SINGLE INSTANCE. THE FACT IS THAT IN THE AFTERMATH OF SEVERAL DEVASTATING PIPELINE INCIDENTS, THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH IMPACTS OF TRANSPORTING HEAVY CRUDE OIL BY PIPELINE. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO EXPLORE THOSE CONCERNS IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT MATTER HAD THE COMMITTEE CONSIDERED THIS LEGISLATION. WITH THAT SAID I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE CAN DELVE INTO FURTHER AS WE WORK WITH CHAIRMAN MICA TO DRAFT -- CRAFT A BILL THAT RE-AUTHORIZES THE NATION'S PIPELINE SAFETY PROGRAM. IN THE INTERIM, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DECISION ON A PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. CURRENT PLANS OVER CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT BEGAN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2012 AND COMMERCIAL OPERATION TO COMMENCE IN 2013. THE FACT IS THAT THIS PIPELINE WILL CREATE THOUSANDS OF NEW JOBS AT A TIME WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE CONSTRUCTION SECTOR IS DOUBLE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. CONSTRUCTION WAS HARD HIT BY THE RECESSION. WITH THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY HAVING LOST NEARLY TWO MILLION JOBS SINCE DECEMBER, 2007, WE NEED TO PUT THESE PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. UNFORTUNATELY, AS OF LAST WEEK, THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP PILED ON THE ALREADY DEVASTATED CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND SHUT DOWN MAJOR PARTS OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION WHICH WILL JEOPARDIZE $2.5 BILLION IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, 87,000 JOBS, FURLOUGH AVIATION AND OTHER CAREER PROFESSIONALS IN 35 STATES AND COST $200 MILLION PER WEEK IN LOST REVENUE. IF THE CHAIRMAN CAN DISCHARGE CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL AND FAST TRACK IT TO THE HOUSE FLOOR FOR A VOTE I HOPE HE WILL DO SAME WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT REPRESENTATIVE COSTELLO AND I INTRODUCE EARLIER THIS WEEK TO GET AVIATION EXPERIOD OF TIMES AND CONSTRUCTION CREWS BACK ON THE CLOCK. WHILE PINK SLIPS HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT TO CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES FROM COAST TO COAST YESTERDAY, REPUBLICANS SEEM TO HAVE REVERSED GEARS ANNOUNCING TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION JOBS, UNION JOBS IN FACT. I CONGRATULATE THEM ON THE LATTER. ON SEPTEMBER, 2010, TRANS-CANADA SAID THEY ENTER UNDERSTOOD A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. LABOR UNIONS OF NORTH AMERICA, THE UNITED STATES ASSOCIATION OF JOURNEYMEN AND APPRENTICES OF THE PIPE FITTING INDUSTRY OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, THE INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS AND THE PIPELINE CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION WILL PROVIDE TRANS-CANADA WITH A CAPABLE, WELL-TRAINED AND READY WORK FORCE IN THE U.S. TO CONSTRUCT THE PIPELINE. DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO CREATE OVER 13,000 HIGHWAY UNION JOBS FOR AMERICAN WORKERS. DESPITE THE PROCEDURAL CONCERNS I RAISED, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION, AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    MAY I INQUIRE AS TO HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA HAS 6 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA HAS 6 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA HAS SIX MINUTES REMAINING.

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    AT THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. BROWN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. BROUN

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938. I THANK MY FRIEND, LEE TERRY FROM…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938. I THANK MY FRIEND, LEE TERRY FROM NEBRASKA, FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS ISSUE. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE IS VITAL TO ENSURE THAT THE UNITED STATES IS ABLE TO MEET ITS DEMAND FOR OIL. CANADA IS ALREADY THE SINGLE LARGEST SOURCE OF OIL IMPORTS FOR THE UNITED STATES. THIS PIPELINE IS EXPECTED TO BRING BETWEEN $-- 830,000 TO MORE THAN ONE MILLION BARRELS OF CRUDE TO AMERICAN REFINERIES EACH AND EVERY DAY, HELPING TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE OF IMPORTED OIL FROM UNFRIENDLY NATIONS. AT A TIME WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS HOVERING NEARLY 10%, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO ADD NEARLY 13,000 NEW AMERICAN JOBS. IT MAXIMIZES OUR DOMESTIC SOURCES OF OIL, WE WILL HAVE TO RELY UPON IMPORTS. CANADA IS AMONG OUR STRONGEST ALLIES AND A STABLE DEMOCRACY. CANADA SERVES AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE SHOULD BE EXPLORING AND DEVELOPING OUR OWN DOMESTIC RESOURCES. AGAIN, I THANK MY FRIEND FROM NEBRASKA FOR WORKING SO DILIGENTLY ON THIS ISSUE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 1938. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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    MR. RAHALL

    CHAIR, I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED LADY FROM FLORIDA, THE…

    CHAIR, I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED LADY FROM FLORIDA, THE RANKING MEMBER, CORRINE BROWN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

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    MS. BROWN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. RAHALL,…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. RAHALL, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP. YOU KNOW, I AM VERY UPSET THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER 21 EXTENSIONS THAT THE F.A.A. WAS SHUT DOWN FRIDAY NIGHT. JEOPARDIZING $2.5 BILLION IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, 87,000 AMERICAN CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND FURLOUGHING AT LEAST 3,6,000 F.A.A. AVIATION -- 3,600 F.A.A. AVIATION ENGINEERS. THIS IS A SAD TIME FOR THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED TOGETHER IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE AMERICA AND KEEP PEOPLE WORKING. THIS IS AMERICA, AND I WANT TO SAY I FULLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO BUILD THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE IN A WAY THAT IMPROVES OUR ACCESS TO CRUDE OIL AND PUT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO WORK WHILE PROTECTING CITIZENS FROM HAZARDOUS SPILLS. BUT WE HAVE TO HOLD THE INDUSTRY'S FEET TO THE FIRE AND MAKE SURE THEY TAKE EVERY POSSIBLE PRECAUTION TO BUILD THIS PIPELINE. THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS SAFETY MATERIALS ADMINISTRATION MUST ENSURE FULL OVERSIGHT IN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN DEVELOPING THIS PIPELINE AND MUST ENSURE THAT IT IS COMPLETED SAFELY. I WANT TO ASK CHAIRMAN MICA AND THE RANKING MEMBER TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMITTEE FULFILLS ITS OVERSIGHT ROLE BY READILY RE-- REGULARLY REVIEWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINE TO ENSURE THAT IT IS CAPABLE OF TRANSPORTING THESE DAMAGING PRODUCTS. I WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT THAT TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE WAIVED ITS JURISDICTION OVER THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE LEGISLATION THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE COMMITTEE OF PRIMARY JURISDICTION OVER PIPELINE AND CONSTRUCTION AND SAFETY LEGISLATION AND IS THE PRIMARY COMMITTEE TO REFER FOR THE KEYSTONE LEGISLATION. JUST LAST WEEK OUR SUBCOMMITTEE HELD A HEARING ON THE SPILL IN MONTANA AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS IN CLEANING UP THIS SPILL AND COMPENSATION TO THOSE WHO WERE HARMED. THE LEGISLATION WE ARE DEBATING TODAY WAS STRONGLY VETTED BY OUR COMMITTEE. I URGE OUR COMMITTEE TO HOLD HEARINGS AND MARKUP ON ANY LEGISLATION WOULD BE IN OUR JURISDICTION. OUR PIPELINE SUBCOMMITTEE HELD AT LEAST FIVE HEARINGS LAST SESSION CONCERNING PIPELINE SAFETY AND FOUND SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH REPORTING AND INSPECTION AS WELL AS UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PIPELINE INDUSTRY AND THE AGENCY REGULATING THEM. MOREOVER, MUCH LIKE THE SEWER AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTRY, MUCH OF THE PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE IS REACHING THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN IMPROVING THE ACCESS. WE MISSISSIPPI DELIVER PETROLEUM -- WE MUST DELIVER PETROLEUM TO THE STATES. WE NEED TO DEVELOP NEW TECHNOLOGY AND STRATEGIES FOR IMPROVING SAFETY IN HIGHLY POPULATED AREAS, AND NOW LOCATED ABOVE THE PIPELINES. WITH THE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THIS COUNTRY IS CURRENTLY FACING, WE SHOULD BE HIRING AND TRAINING INSPECTORS -- MAY I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE, MR. RANKING MEMBER?

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  • 02:55:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. BROWN

    WORKERS TO REPLACE THIS ANCIENT PIPELINE STRUCTURE IN THE U.S. LET ME RUSH…

    WORKERS TO REPLACE THIS ANCIENT PIPELINE STRUCTURE IN THE U.S. LET ME RUSH TO SAY THAT THE REPUBLICAN PLAN IN THEIR DEFICIT REDUCTION PLAN PROTECTING THE BIG OIL AND THE OIL COMPANIES THAT MADE OVER $1 TRILLION IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. $310 BILLION BY EXXON. $352 BILLION BY CHEVRON. $302 BILLION BY B.P. THEY MADE $1 TRILLION BUT YET WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE SENIOR CITIZENS' RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME. AND I WANT TO SUBMIT THEIR PROFIT RECORD TO THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

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  • 02:56:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    MR. SHUSTER

    AT THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. BRADY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. BRADY

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK CHAIRMAN SHUSTER FOR HIS TIME. I MIGHT…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK CHAIRMAN SHUSTER FOR HIS TIME. I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT OUR ENERGY COMPANIES ARE MAKING PROFITS, MAJOR PROFITS OVERSEAS. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS CHASED OUR JOBS AND OUR ENERGY PRODUCTION. TODAY, WE'RE SAYING YES TO NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY. THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE WILL INCREASE OUR ACCESS TO SAFE AND SECURE ENERGY SUPPLIES FROM OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE NORTH. NOT FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. NOT TO UNSTABLE PARTS OF THE WORLD. WHEN COMPLETED THE PIPELINE WILL HAVE BILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL TO THE MIDWEST, OUR GULF COAST REFINERIES AND HAVE GOOD-PAYING JOBS WITH THEM. PRICES AT THE PUMP ARE HIGH. WE'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF DELAY OF AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, ASK OUR GULF COAST WORKERS WHO LOST THEIR JOBS AND HAVE BEEN HURT BECAUSE THE PERMITTORIUM. WE HAVE AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SOLUTION FROM A STRONG TRADING PARTNER AND ALLY AND A SOLUTION THAT SUPPORTS GOOD OLD AMERICAN ENERGY JOBS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:57:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

  • 02:57:44 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    PREPARED TO CLOSE.

  • 02:57:47 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    WOULD THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA LIKE TO RESERVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    WOULD THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA LIKE TO RESERVE?

  • 02:57:56 PM

    MR. SHUSTER

    I YIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE,

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

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    MR. MICA

    MY COLLEAGUES, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    MY COLLEAGUES, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY. WE SHOULD ALL BE THANKING MR. TERRY FOR THIS INITIATIVE. NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HIT BY INCREDIBLE UNEMPLOYMENT ECONOMIC CHALLENGES, A DYSFUNCTIONAL CONGRESS, BUT AS THEY GO TO THE LOCAL SERVICE STATION TO FILL UP WITH GASOLINE, THEY'RE PAYING RECORD PRICES. I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND I HEARD ONE OF THE COMMENTATORS SAID -- WAS INTERVIEWING AN EXPERT ON, AGAIN, ENERGY AND HE PREDICTED THAT ONE YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL BE PAYING BETWEEN $4.50 AND $5.50 FOR A GALLON OF GASOLINE. NOW, YOU HAD THE RANKING MEMBER FOR ME FAST TRACKING THIS LEGISLATION. I GUESS I BEAT A RECORD OF NOT -- I'M TELLING YOU, I WILL WAIVE THIS AND ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO TO GET THIS COUNTRY IN ENERGY -- GET THIS COUNTRY ENERGY INDEPENDENT AND FIND A WAY FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD ENERGY. WE NEED A SHORT-TERM PLAN, AND THAT'S BRINGING ENERGY INTO THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT BEING HELD HOSTAGE TO PEOPLE LIKE THE REGIMES IN THE MIDDLE EAST OR VENEZUELA. THIS PIPELINE WILL BRING IN 1.3 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL PER DAY. THAT EQUALS -- THAT EXCEEDS WHAT COMES IN FROM VENEZUELA. IT EXCEEDS WHAT COMES IN FROM SAUDI ARABIA. HOW FRUSTRATED THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA MUST BE. THEN, OF COURSE, I WAS ATTACKED ON F.A.A., LACK OF RE-AUTHORIZATION. HOW COULD THEY ATTACK ME? FOUR YEARS THEY CONTROLLED THIS PLACE AND INCREDIBLE NUMBERS, HUGE NUMBERS TO DO ANYTHING IN THE HOUSE, HUGE NUMBERS TO DO ANYTHING IN THE SENATE. FOUR YEARS. I OFFERED THE LAST F.A.A. AUTHORIZATION IN 2003 AND 2007 AND THEY SAT ON IT AND NEVER DID ANYTHING. THEY DID 17 EXTENSIONS, THEY FORCED US TO DO THREE. AND I'M TELLING YOU, I'VE HAD IT. IF THEY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE IN A DIFFERENT WAY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE THAT WAY ANYMORE. WE SENT THEM LAST WEDNESDAY AN EXTENSION AND IT WAS A KLEENEX TENSION. IT HAD -- IT WAS A CLEAN EXTENSION. IT HAD ONE PROVISION THAT THEY PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AND THEY DON'T LIKE PART THAT HAVE ONE PROVISION THAT STOPS FUNDING OF ESSENTIAL AIR SERVICE SUBSIDIES, FEDERAL TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES IN EXCESS OF $1,000. SO FOR THREE AIRPORTS GETTING -- THEIR PASSENGERS ARE BEING PAID A SUBSIDY OF $1,500 TO $3,700, THREE AIRPORTS THAT ARE CLOSING DOWN THE F.A.A., THEY'VE HAD SINCE LAST WEDNESDAY AND THEY SAT ON IT. SO I DON'T CARE HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS BEFORE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. I'LL BE IN CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE AT LEAST THROUGH NEXT YEAR AND I'M GOING TO FIND A WAY TO DO THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO GET REASONABLE ENERGY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND A YEAR FROM NOW MARK YOUR CALENDAR. WE DIDN'T MANDATE THAT THEY BUILD THE PIPELINE AND I WANT THE PIPELINE BUILT WITH EVERY SAFETY CONSIDERATION. YES, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SHOULDN'T BE ASLEEP AT THE TRACK LIKE THEY WERE WITH THE GULF OIL SPILL, WHEN THEY ISSUED THE PERMIT, STAMPED IT IN JUST A FEW DAYS. YOU KNOW, THEY ISSUED MORE PERMITS FOR DEEPWATER DRILLING IN THEIR SHORT-TERM -- SHORT TERM IN OFFICE AND THEN CLOSED DOWN THE REST OF THE ACCESS TO ENERGY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND ACTUALLY ISSUED MORE DEEPWATER PERMITS IN THEIR FIRST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE THAN THE ENTIRE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND THEN WERE ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH WHEN THEY HAVE -- WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSPECTING THAT PROCEDURE AND THEY -- WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSPECTING THAT PROCEDURE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSPECTING IT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

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    MR. RAHALL

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER'S REMARKS AND HIS…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER'S REMARKS AND HIS ANGER, IT IS INDEED FRUSTRATING. I AGAIN INVITE HIM TO FAST TRACK WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF PROCESS AS HE HAS DONE ON THIS PIPELINE BILL IN ORDER TO FREE US FROM RELIANCE UPON FOREIGN SOURCES OF ENERGY. I HOPE HE JUST AS QUICKLY FAST TRACKS OUR KLEENEX TENSION OF THE F.A.A. BILL WE INTRODUCED TODAY -- CLEAN EXTENSION OF THE F.A.A. BILL WE INTRODUCED TODAY. PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY SITTING AT HOME FOR THE SECOND, GOING ON THE THIRD DAY WITHOUT JOBS. I WOULD ALSO, MADAM CHAIRMAN, ASK THAT A LETTER I SENT TO CHAIRMAN MICA BACK ON JUNE 30 IN REGARD TO OUR COMMITTEE ON T YANLED I, WAIVING JURISDICTION ON THE PENDING LEGISLATION BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AT THE PROPER TIME. AND ALSO A LETTER FROM FOUR MAJOR LABOR UNIONS ENDORSING THE PENDING LEGISLATION, THE BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS, THE LABORS INTERNATIONAL UNION, THE INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS AND UNITED ASSOCIATION OF JERN JOURNEYMAN OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, A LET THEY ARE SENT TO --

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  • 03:03:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THAT WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE.

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    MR. RAHALL

    OF THESE UNION WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SO I WOULD URGE MY…

    OF THESE UNION WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SO I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE PENDING LEGISLATION. AT THE SAME TIME THAT I WOULD URGE AGAIN MY RANKING -- MY CHAIRMAN TO EXPEDITE CONSIDERATION OF A CLEAN F.A.A. RE-AUTHORIZATION BILL THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TODAY BY REPRESENTATIVE COSTELLO AND MYSELF AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    YES.

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    THAT'S GOT TO HEAR -- GOOD TO HEAR.

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    MR. RAHALL

    I MADE THAT CLEAR IN BOTH OF MY SPEECHES.

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    I THOUGHT SO BUT I JUST WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THE INTRO. IT'S GREAT…

    I THOUGHT SO BUT I JUST WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THE INTRO. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR AND IT'S IMPORTANT --

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  • 03:04:39 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    YOU WEREN'T LISTENING?

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    THIS ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS.

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    MR. SHUSTER

    BECAUSE IT DOES MEAN JOBS FOR AMERICANS. CONSTRUCTION JOBS SOMEWHERE UP TO…

    BECAUSE IT DOES MEAN JOBS FOR AMERICANS. CONSTRUCTION JOBS SOMEWHERE UP TO 20,000, IT MEANS STEEL THAT IS GOING TO BE MADE IN U.S. STEEL PLANTS SO THIS IS A BIG THAT -- BILL THAT IS NOT ONLY GOING TO CREATE JOBS, IT'S GOING TO HELP US BREAK THAT DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL AND AGAIN I TIP MY HAT TO MR. TERRY FROM NEBRASKA FOR PUTTING FORTH H.R. 1935 AND I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROENERGY, PROJOBS BILL AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:05:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

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    FOR THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. LAMBORN

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME BEFORE I YIELD TO A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES. THIS LEGISLATION TAKES A CRUCIAL STEP TOWARD GIVING OUR NATION'S ENERGY SECURITY AND PUTTING AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. IN 2010 ALONE THE UNITED STATES IMPORTED OVER ONE TRILLION BARRELS OF OIL FROM OPEC COUNTRIES. MANY OF WHICH HAVE UNSTABLE OR UNFRIENDLY GOVERNMENTS. WHILE MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE REPLACE THAT OIL WITH DOMESTICALLY PRODUCED RESOURCES FROM THE ROCKIES OR THE OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF IN ALASKA, WE HAVE THE NEXT BEST THING BY HAVING CANADA AS A STABLE, FRIENDSLY ENERGY-RICH TRADING PARTNER SHARING OUR NORTHERN BORDER. AS WE HAVE SEEN IN SO MANY OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR NATION'S ENERGY PORTFOLIO, WHETHER IT BE OFFSHORE PRODUCTION, ONSHORE PRODUCTION OR EVEN RENEWABLE ENERGY PRODUCTION ON FEDERAL LANDS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS ONCE AGAIN SLOW WALKING OR EVEN STONEWALLING DOMESTIC ENERGY SECURITY AND JOB CREATION WITH NEEDLESS DELAYS AND BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE. THIS LEGISLATION WILL HELP ENSURE A STEADY SUPPLY OF CRUDE OIL FROM ONE OF OUR STRONGEST ALLIES. IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE 20,000 DIRECT CONSTRUCTION JOBS FOR AMERICANS AND SPUR $20 BILLION IN NEW SPENDING IN THE U.S. ECONOMY. THE EX TENS -- THE EXTENSION OF THIS PIPELINE WILL CREATE NEW MONEY IN STATE AND LOCAL TAXES DURING CONSTRUCTION. IT WILL GREATLY LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON OIL FROM OPEC. OPPONENTS OF THIS PIPELINE SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT IF WE DON'T USE THIS OIL HERE IT WON'T BE PRODUCED. THAT POSITION IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG AND DISPLACE A FOOLISH AND NAIVE -- DISPLAYS A FOOLISH AND NAIVE DISREGARD FOR THE FLOW OF INTERNATIONAL OIL PRODUCTION. THE REALITY IS IF AMERICA WON'T TAKE THIS OIL, CHINA WILL. INSTEAD OF HAVING A SECURE PIPELINE FEEDING THE AMERICAN HEARTLAND, WE WILL SEE MASSIVE TANKERS OFF THE COAST OF WASHINGTON AND OREGON AS CHINA FILLS ITS SHIPS FOR EXPORT AND CHINA DOESN'T HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS THAT WE DO. WE SHOULD PASS H.R. 1938. AT THIS MOMENT, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE STATE OF OHIO, MR. JOHNSON.

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  • 03:08:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. JOHNSON

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND, MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE IN…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND, MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT. FOR FAR TOO LONG THE PROPOSED KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE HAS BEEN CAUGHT UP IN BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAS BECOME THE NORM WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION. THIS LEGISLATION SIMPLY FORCES THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE A DECISION BY NOVEMBER 1 OF THIS YEAR WHICH WOULD BE MORE THAN THREE YEARS AFTER THE APPLICATION WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED. THIS BILL ADDRESSES OUR NATION'S INDEPENDENCE ON OPEC FOR OIL -- OR I'M SORRY, ADDRESSES OUR NATION'S DEPENDENCE ON OPEC FOR OIL BUT ALSO CREATES AMERICAN JOBS. THE PIPELINE EXTENSION WOULD ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL 700,000 BARRELS OF OIL PER DAY TO BE BROUGHT TO THE U.S. MARKETPLACE. THIS INCREASE IN OIL FROM AMERICA'S LARGEST TRADING PARTNER WOULD BEGIN TO MAKE AMERICA LESS BEHOLDEN TO UNSTABLE OPEC COUNTRIES FOR OUR OIL DEMANDS. FURTHERMORE THIS PIPELINE ISN'T -- IF THIS PIPELINE ISN'T BUILT THIS OIL WILL GO TO CHINA INSTEAD OF COMING TO AMERICA. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALSO PAVE THE WAY FOR THE CREATION OF 13,000 DIRECT JOBS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF INDIRECT JOBS SHOULD THE PROJECT BE APPROVED. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS COMMONSENSE LEGISLATION AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:09:23 PM

    MR. LAMBORN

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS .

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    CHAIR. I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO H.R. 1938. WE ARE HERE DEBATING…

    CHAIR. I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO H.R. 1938. WE ARE HERE DEBATING WHETHER TO EXPEDITE THE APPROVAL OF A PIPELINE THAT WILL IMPORT THE DIRTIEST CRUDE OIL ON THE PLANET INTO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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    MR. MARKEY

    PRODUCTION METHOD FOR CRUDE OIL ON THE PLANET. IT ALSO DESTROYS THE BOREAL…

    PRODUCTION METHOD FOR CRUDE OIL ON THE PLANET. IT ALSO DESTROYS THE BOREAL FOREST. IT CONTAMINATES MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER EACH DAY. THAT IS A VERY HIGH ENVIRONMENTAL PRICE TO PAY FOR OIL FROM TAR IN CANADA THAT MAY NOT LOWER PRICES FOR AMERICANS AND MAY NEVER BE SOLD TO AMERICANS. BUT WE WILL BUILD THE PIPELINE FOR THEM THROUGH OUR LAND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL. THE MAJORITY HAS REPEATEDLY CLAIMED THAT EXPEDITING THE APPROVAL OF THIS PIPELINE WILL LOWER GAS PRICES AT THE PUMP FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. BUT WHAT FACTUAL EVIDENCE SHOULD WE RELY UPON IN ORDER TO SUBSTANCEATE THIS CLAIM? WELL, WE CAN'T RELY UPON TRANSCANADA, THE VERY COMPANY THAT WANTS TO BUILD THE PIPELINE THROUGH OUR COUNTRY, BECAUSE IT HAS CONCLUDED THAT AFTER THE PIPELINE IS CONSTRUCTED THAT GAS PRICES WOULD RISE IN THE MIDWEST OF OUR COUNTRY AS A RESULT OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. WE ARE ALSO TOLD THAT BUILDING THIS PIPELINE WILL ENABLE US TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE ON IMPORTED OIL FROM COUNTRIES WHO DON'T LIKE US VERY MUCH. INSTEAD WE WILL BE ABLE TO RELY UPON DEPENDABLE CANADA, OUR FRIENDS THE CANADIANS. BUT WHAT ARE THE GUARANTEES THAT BUILDING THIS PIPELINE WILL ACTUALLY LEAD TO GREATER SUPPLIES OF CRUDE OIL FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? WELL, THE ANSWER, MADAM SPEAKER, IS THAT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS BILL, NOTHING THAT PREVENTS KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE OIL FROM BEING SHIPPED TO THE GULF COAST, REFINED THERE FROM THE TAR OF ALBERTA, CANADA, AND THEN RERE-EXPORTED AND SOLD INTO THE GLOBAL -- RE-EXPORTED AND SOLD INTO THE GLOBAL MARKET. I OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO THE RULES COMMITTEE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO ENSURE THAT THE APPROVAL OF THIS PIPELINE WOULD IN FACT GUARANTEE THAT THE BENEFITS OF THE KEYSTONE OIL BEING TRANSPORTED THROUGH OUR COUNTRY STAY RIGHT HERE IN OUR COUNTRY. MY AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE KEYSTONE OIL BE SOLD IN THIS COUNTRY. THAT WINE CREASE THE GASOLINE AND THE -- THAT WOULD INCREASE THE GASOLINE AND THE DIESEL SUPPLIES AT THE PUMP AND HELP TO ENSURE LOWER PRICES AT THE PUMP. AND MY AMENDMENT SWROO BENEFITED DOMESTIC BUSINESSES THAT USE -- WOULD HAVE BENEFITED DOMESTIC BUSINESSES THAT USE THOSE PRODUCTS, BY ENSURING A STUDY -- STEADY SUPPLY OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS FOR THEIR MANUFACTURING PLANTS HERE, MADE IN AMERICA. MY AMENDMENT WAS CONSISTENT WITH LONGSTANDING U.S. POLICY ON OIL EXPORTS. WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE REPUBLICANS REFUSED TO ALLOW A VOTE ON MY AMENDMENT HERE TODAY. THEY WON'T EVEN ALLOW OUR MEMBERS TO VOTE ON KEEPING THE OIL THAT IS GOING TO BE TRANSMITTED IN A PIPELINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW TO BE BLILT THROUGH OUR COUNTRY HERE -- BUILT THROUGH OUR COUNTRY HERE. SO, YES, IT'S THE DIRTIEST OIL IN THE WORLD. BUT AT LEAST IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A PIPELINE, AT LEAST HAVE IT BE SOLD HERE IN AMERICA AND NOT SOLD TO CHINA, NOT SOLD TO KOREA, AT LEAST HAVE THAT GUARANTEE. THEY REFUSE TO EVEN HAVE A VOTE ON IT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS IDEOLOGICAL BELIEF THAT THE LARGEST OIL COMPANY KNOW BEST. WE SHOULD NOT BE TAXING THEM, WE SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING ANY BURDEN ON THE BIGGEST OIL COMPANIES, BETTER TO PUSH THE AMERICAN ECONOMY TO THE BRINK OF FISCAL COLLAPSE THAN THE REPUBLICANS WOULD EVER CONSIDER ALLOWING TO RESCIND TAX BREAKS FOR THE BIGGEST OIL COMPANIES. THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING THAT ON THE TABLE. GRANDMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK, ABSOLUTELY. BUILDING A PIPELINE THROUGH OUR COUNTRY WITH THE DIRTIEST OIL IN THE WORLD TO BE SOLD TO ASIA, ABSOLUTELY, NO PROBLEM FOR THE REPUBLICANS. SO THIS BILL, DESPITE THE OVERWHELMING FACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT BUILDING THE PIPELINE WILL ONLY RESULT IN DIRTIER AIR, MORE PROFITS TO BIG OIL, WITHOUT BENEFITS TO THE AMERICAN CONSUMER, THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD. VOTE NO ON THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ATROCITY.

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  • 03:15:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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    MR. LAMBORN

    I'D LIKE TO INQUIRE OF THE CHAIRWOMAN HOW MUCH TIME IS REMAINING FOR EACH…

    I'D LIKE TO INQUIRE OF THE CHAIRWOMAN HOW MUCH TIME IS REMAINING FOR EACH SIDE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS NO TIME REMAINING.

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  • 03:15:18 PM

    MR. LAMBORN

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY GOOD COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND FROM THE…

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY GOOD COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

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    TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY…

    TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT. THIS BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION WOULD INCREASE ACCESS TO MORE ENERGY SUPPLIES BY EXPEDITING THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT TO THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE EXTENSION.

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  • 03:15:43 PM

    MR. FLORES

    WE ARE ALL AIR WEAR THAT EVERY ADDITIONAL BARREL THAT CAN BE PRODUCED IN…

    WE ARE ALL AIR WEAR THAT EVERY ADDITIONAL BARREL THAT CAN BE PRODUCED IN NORTH AMERICA IS ONE FEWER BARREL THAT WE NEED FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. THIS PIPELINE EXTENSION WOULD HELP BRING UP TOTAL CAPACITY UP TO MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY INTO OUR MARKETS. ALSO, AS WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS OUR STRUGGLING ECONOMIC RECOVERY, THIS PROJECT WILL CREATE AN ESTIMATED 100,000 AMERICAN JOBS AND HELP GROW OUR ECONOMY. CANADA'S VAST OIL RESOURCES HAVE ALSO ATTRACTED INTEREST FROM OTHER ENERGY-HUNGRY NATIONS. IF WE DO NOT TAP THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE, THE CHINESE OR OTHER COUNTRIES WILL. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS ALREADY DELAYED THE DECISION ON THIS PROJECT FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS, AND IT IS TIME THAT THEY MAY ACT AND MAKE A DECISION. THE CHOICE IS CLEAR. BY PASSING THIS BILL WE WILL INCREASE OUR ENERGY SECURITY WITH A MORE STABLE SUPPLY OF EFFICIENT AND AFFORDABLE INTERNATIONAL TRADING PARTNER AND WE WILL LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS CRITICAL LEGISLATION. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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    MR. LAMBORN

    THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT IS A PIVOTAL FIRST STEP…

    THE NORTH AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT IS A PIVOTAL FIRST STEP TOWARDS SECURING OUR ENERGY FUTURE, LESSENING OUR DEPENDENCE ON OIL FROM OPEC COUNTRIES AND PUTTING AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. CANADA AND THE U.S. HAVE THE WORLD'S LARGEST TWO-WAY RELATIONSHIP. RATHER THAN PUT UP ROADBLOCKS WE SHOULD FOSTER AND BUILD UPON THAT RELATIONSHIP TO UTILIZE EACH OTHER'S RESOURCES. IF WE DON'T USE THIS OIL, CHINESE CONSUMERS WILL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO RELY ON OIL FROM OPEC. WE CANNOT STAND IDLY BY AS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO DELAY AND PUT UP ROADBLOCKS THAT PREVENT THE PRODUCTION OF AMERICAN ENERGY AND THE CREATION OF AMERICAN JOBS. H.R. 1938 WILL FORCE THE AMFERINGS TO MAKE A DECISION THAT HAS BEEN UNNECESSARILY TRADE FOR YEARS. THE LEGISLATION IS GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND GOOD FOR AMERICAN JOBS, AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:17:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR GENERAL DEBATE HAS EXPIRED.…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR GENERAL DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE PRINTED IN THE BILL SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE AND SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ. NO AMENDMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE IN ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. EACH SUCH AMENDMENT MAY BE OFFERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT , SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT, AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO A DEMAND FOR DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT RISE?

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  • 03:18:46 PM

    MR. WELCH

    MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1938.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. WELCH OF…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. WELCH OF VERMONT.

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  • 03:19:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT, MR. WELCH,…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT, MR. WELCH, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT.

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  • 03:19:11 PM

    MR. WELCH

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. WELCH

    SPEAKER, THIS AMENDMENT INSERTS AN ENVIRONMENTAL FINDING THAT HIGHLIGHTS…

    SPEAKER, THIS AMENDMENT INSERTS AN ENVIRONMENTAL FINDING THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE SIGNIFICANT, THE VERY SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH RISK THAT ARE PROPOSED BY -- THAT WILL INCUR BY THIS PROPOSED PIPELINE. THIS PIPELINE IS GOING TO CARRY UP TO 900,000 BARRELS OF TAR SANDS OIL EVERY DAY. IT'S GOING TO CARRY THEM A DISTANCE OF 2,000 MILES, AND WHATEVER ASSURANCES ARE GIVEN ABOUT THE SAFETY OF ANY MECHANICAL AND ENGINEERING SYSTEM, WE HAVE TOO MUCH REGULAR EXPERIENCE THAT THE BEST OF INTENTIONS OFTENTIMES FAIL. SO THERE IS RISK, AND WE WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN AS PART OF THE FINDINGS. A UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA PROFESSOR RECENTLY RELEASED A FIRST INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE SPILLS THAT COULD COME FROM THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. THAT STUDY FOUND THAT TRANS-CANADA HAS IN FACT GREATLY UNDERSTATED THE RISK OF THE PIPELINE. THAT STUDY ESTABLISHED THAT THE PIPELINE COULD SPILL OVER FIVE MILLION GALLONS OF TAR SANDS OIL INTO A RIVER, MAKING WATER UNDRINKABLE FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. ALSO THE KEYSTONE REAL-TIME LEAK DETECTION SYSTEM DOESN'T DETECT SPILLS THAT ARE LESS THAN 700 GALLONS PER DAY. THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PIPELINE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR TAR SANDS OIL IN MIND. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING PROCESS FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS QUESTIONABLE BENEFITS TO OUR STATION, LET'S AT LEAST RECOGNIZE THE RISK. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:21:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RISE IN OPPOSITION?

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  • 03:21:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I URGE REJECTION OF THIS. GUTTING AMENDMENTING,…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I URGE REJECTION OF THIS. GUTTING AMENDMENTING, WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS BASICALLY SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD ANY PIPELINES IN THIS GENERAL AREA. I'D LIKE THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY PIPELINES ALREADY RUNNING THROUGH THIS AREA. OIL PIPELINES, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, AND ALSO THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE TO -- REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT, THIS ALMOST TWO FEET HIGH OF MATERIALS IS THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, THE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, PHMSA'S REPORT. I CAN ASSURE THE GENTLEMAN THAT THERE IS NO OTHER PIPELINE THAT HAS BEEN STUDIED TO THE POINT THAT THIS ONE HAS. IT IS AS CLOSE TO THE BEST BUILT PIPELINE AS DEMANDED BY THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE OVERSIGHT. SO IT HAS GONE THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH, THOROUGH EXAMINATION. THE OWNERS OF THIS PIPELINE, TRANS-CANADA, HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO NOT ONLY INCREASING THE THICKNESS OF THE PIPELINE ITSELF BUT ADDITIONAL PUMP STATIONS WHERE THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO DETECT THERE'S A LEAK, THE PIPELINE REFORM BILL WILL BE REPORTED OUT OF COMMITTEES LATER AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO ALL OF THOSE RULES INCLUDING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT ALL LEAKS WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE ON SITE REPAIRED WITHIN ONE HOUR. THERE'S NO WAY TO DESIGN A PERFECT PIPELINE, BUT THERE IS WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS THERE'S A RAPID RESPONSE, AND THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN. THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL AGREEMENTS. SO I'M VASTLY POSITIVE THAT, A, ANY LEAKS THAT WOULD OCCUR ARE GOING TO BE MINIMAL AND NOT HAZARDOUS TO THE OGALLALA AQUIFER, AND I RESERVE.

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  • 03:23:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN HAS THREE MINUTES REMAINING.

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    MR. WELCH

    AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE IS RECOGNIZED FOR NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.

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    MR. COHEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE WELCH-COHEN AMENDMENT.…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE WELCH-COHEN AMENDMENT. THIS NONCONTROVERSIAL AMENDMENT STATES AN IMPORTANT FACT THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED IN THE FINDINGS SECTION. I'M -- THE CRITICAL FACT KEYSTONE X.L. WILL RUN THROUGH THE WORLD'S LARGEST FRESH WATER AQUIFER, THE OGALLALA AQUIFER, WHICH PROVIDES DRINKING WATER FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. THIS ESSENTIAL PART OF THE PIPELINE THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BEFORE GRANTING A DETERMINATION OF NATIONAL INTEREST. OUR AMENDMENT ALSO STATES THE RESULTS OF THE ONLY INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE WORST-CASE SPILLS FOR THE PROPOSED KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE, A REPORT THAT INDICATES THE TRANS-CANADA HAS GREATLY UNDERSTATED THE PIPELINE'S RISKS. PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE REPORT IS THE DISCOVERY THAT EVEN A SMALL UNDETECTED LEAK OF AN UNDERGROUND REPRESENTURE OF THE PIPELINE IN THE NEBRASKA SAND HILLS CAN PRODUCE ALMOST 5 BILLION GALLONS OF GROUNDWATER, A RISK FOR ANYONE USING THIS AQUIFER, FOR DRINKING WATER OR FOR ANYONE USING FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND GIVEN THE KEYSTONE'S REAL-TIME LEAK DETECTION DOES NOT REGISTER SPILLS LESS THAN, GET THIS, 700,000 GALLONS A DAY. THEY'LL HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT. WHAT IS EENL EVEN MORE DISCONCERTING IS THAT ACCORDING TO CYNTHIA QUARTERMAN, THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, THE SAFETY REGULATIONS WERE NOT WRITTEN TO ADDRESS THE UNIQUE PIPING TAR SANDS, THE WORST FLOW ONE COULD IMAGINE. ADDITIONALLY, ADMINISTRATOR QUARTERMAN NOTED THAT HER AGENCY, THE GOVERNMENT'S PIPELINE SAFETY EXPERTS HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE REVIEW OF KEY TONY X.L. AND HAS NOT -- KEYSTONE X.L. AS WE CONSIDER BUILDING A DANGEROUS TAR SANDS PIPELINE THROUGH OUR NATION'S MOST IMPORTANT AQUIFER IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE RISK. THAT IS WHY THE SIERRA LEAGUE AND OTHERS ARE SO INTERESTED AS IS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IN THESE FINDINGS. I URGE SUPPORT FOR THE WELCH-COHEN AMENDMENT, AND YIELD BACK THE --

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  • 03:26:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT RESERVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT HAS 30 SECONDS REMAINING.

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  • 03:26:30 PM

    MR. WELCH

    I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO MR. JOHNSON FROM GEORGIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. JOHNSON

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I OPPOSE H.R. 1938 WHICH WOULD ACCELERATE THE…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I OPPOSE H.R. 1938 WHICH WOULD ACCELERATE THE APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE COKE BROTHERS X.L. PIPELINE. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MUCH AIR POLLUTION THIS PIPELINE WILL CAUSE OR HOW THE POLLUTION WILL IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH, AND SO MY AMENDMENT WOULD -- IS A COMMONSENSE ONE. IT WOULD SIMPLY REQUEST A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISK BEFORE ANY DECISION IS MADE. COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING OIL REFINERIES THAT WOULD PROCESS THESE TAR SANDS CRUDE OIL ARE ALREADY EXPOSED TO DIRTY AIR, AND APPROVAL OF THIS COKE BROTHERS KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL ONLY MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

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  • 03:27:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I YIELD.

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    THE CHAIR

    CONTINUE TO RESERVE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT HAS NO TIME REMAINING.

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    MR. TERRY

    OH, VERY GOOD. THEN IN CLOSING, I WANT TO LAY THE -- TO SIT HERE AND SAY…

    OH, VERY GOOD. THEN IN CLOSING, I WANT TO LAY THE -- TO SIT HERE AND SAY THIS HASN'T BEEN STUDIED, WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY IMPACT STUDY, WE HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL. THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED. ALL THE AGENCIES ARE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE PIPELINE PHMSA IS INVOLVED IN THIS. I'M SURE THEY WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON SOUND SCIENCE, AND YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 03:28:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA --

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  • 03:28:30 PM

    MR. TERRY

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT WILL BE…

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT WILL BE POSTPONED. IT'S NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

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  • 03:28:53 PM

    MR. RUSH

    SPEAKER, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK. -- THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    2 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH,…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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  • 03:29:17 PM

    MR. RUSH

    MADAM SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 03:29:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:29:27 PM

    MR. RUSH

    DURING THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP, I OFFERED MY AMENDMENT…

    DURING THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP, I OFFERED MY AMENDMENT TO DELETE A FINDING THAT I THOUGHT WAS PARTICULARLY MISLEADING. FINDING NUMBER 15 STATES, AND I QUOTE, ANALYSIS USING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY MODELS SHOWS THAT THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL RESULT IN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TOTAL UNITED STATES OR GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, END OF QUOTE. MY AMENDMENT WAS DEFEATED ON A PARTY LINE VOTE AFTER MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE INSISTED THAT A STATEMENT WAS INDEED TRUE. WELL, MADAM SPEAKER, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE E.P.A. ASKING THE AGENCY TO WEIGH IN ON THE ACCURACY OF THIS FINDING, AND THIS WAS THE AGENCY'S REPLY. I QUOTE, E.P.A. HAS CONDUCTED NO MODELING OR PROVIDED ANY MODELS TO ANALYZE THE LIKELY EFFECT OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE ON U.S. OR GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THE LANGUAGE IN THE FINDING IS THEREFORE INCORRECT, END OF QUOTE. THE ESSENTIAL E.P.A. STATEMENT WENT ON TO SAY AND I QUOTE AGAIN, AS DETAILED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE ISSUED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY -- POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE PROJECT. E.P.A. PROVIDED NO -- PROVIDED SOME DATA TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT EFFORT BUT E.P.A. MODELS WERE NOT USED AND E.P.A. DID NOT MODEL ANY PROJECTION EMISSIONS EFFECT OF THE PROJECT, END QUOTE. MADAM SPEAKER, THERE ARE SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT FACTS OR TRUTH OR SCIENCE. IF THESE FACTS OR OTHERWISE GET IN THE WAY OF INDUSTRY MOVING FORWARD UNFETTERED. WELL, BY VOTING FOR MY AMENDMENT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND PROVE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WHEN A STATEMENT IS SHOWN TO BE FALSE THEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM BOTH SIDES, DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS, WILL PUT THEIR PARTISAN DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND STAND ON THE SIDE OF TRUTH. THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. SO I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY CORRECTIVE AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO CORRECT THIS MISLEADING STATEMENT CONTAINED IN THE BILL. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    TO JOIN MY FRIEND THERE STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH AND ACCURACY. SO WHAT I…

    TO JOIN MY FRIEND THERE STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH AND ACCURACY. SO WHAT I WILL DO IS READ THE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY. PAGE 7, THE WORLD AND D.O.E. ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES PERSPECTIVE MODEL ANALYSIS RESULTS SHOW NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TOTAL U.S. REFINING ACTIVITY, TOTAL CRUDE AND PRODUCT IMPORT VOLUMES AND COST IN GLOBAL REFINERY, CO-2 AND LIFE CYCLE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, WHETHER KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE IS BUILT OR NOT. IT'S THE EXACT VERBIAGE FROM THE ACTUAL DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY USING THE E.P.A.'S MODELING CONCLUSIONS. SO, WE'RE JUST USING THE STUDY, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S STUD -- ENERGY STUDY'S LANGUAGE. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS TAKE OUT THE EXACT LANGUAGE FROM INDEPENDENT STUDY BY DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND SUPPLANTS IT WITH AN INACCURATE STATEMENT. NOW, I THINK WHERE MY FRIEND IS GOING AND THE E.P.A. HAS RECENTLY WRITTEN A LETTER SAYING THAT WHAT THE STANDARD THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IS NOT CRUDE OR HEAVY CRUDE VERSUS HEAVY CRUDE BECAUSE WHAT THIS STUDY IS SAYING IS THIS OIL IS STILL GOING TO BE REFINED, WHETHER IT'S IN KANSAS, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS OR CHICAGO, IF IT'S NOT BEING REFINED THERE IT WILL BE REFINED IN CHINA, THEREFORE IT HAS THE SAME IMPACT GLOBALLY, THE SAME LIFE CYCLE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THE E.P.A. WROTE A LETTER AND SAID, WE'RE CHANGING THAT STANDARD. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO JUST COMPARE IT TO TEXAS SWEET CREW AND THEY JUST PULLED THAT OUT OF A HAT HERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING BUT IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THE STUDY SAYS. SO THERE'S NO REASON TO REMOVE THIS. THIS IS ACCURATE, IT'S EXACTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S STUDY, BASED ON E.P.A.'S OWN MODELING AND I'LL RESERVE.

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  • 03:35:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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    MR. RUSH

    MADAM SPEAKER, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    REMAINING AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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    MR. RUSH

    IS SIMPLY AN ARGUMENT OVER WHETHER OR NOT THIS HOUSE WILL ALLOW FALSE…

    IS SIMPLY AN ARGUMENT OVER WHETHER OR NOT THIS HOUSE WILL ALLOW FALSE INFORMATION IN THIS BILL TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE VERY AGENCY IN QUESTION STATING THAT THE INFORMATION IS FALSE. THIS IS THE LETTER. THIS IS THE LETTER. IT SAYS, IT'S A LETTER DATED JUNE 27, IT SAYS, ANALYSIS, THE E.P.A. HAS CONDUCTED NO MODELING NOR PROVIDED ANY MODELS TO ANALYZE THE EFFECT OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE ON U.S. OR GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THE LANGUAGE IN THE FIND SOMETHING THEREFORE INCORRECT. -- FINDING IS THEREFORE INCORRECT. HOW CLEARER CAN BE IT THAT THE E.P.A. STATES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THIS PARTICULAR PASSAGE IN THIS BILL IS FALSE, IT'S MISLEADING AND IF WE VOTE FOR A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, NOT ONLY IS IT WRONGHEADED, IT'S WRONG IN ITS EFFORT. AND WE VOTE TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION, THEN WE ARE PERPETUATING A FALSEHOOD. MADAM SPEAKER, THIS CONGRESS STANDS FOR -- HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS THAN THE MOVEMENTS OF THE -- THAT WE KNOW IS FALSE. WE KNOW IT'S NOT ACCURATE. THE OTHER SIDE KNOWS IT'S NOT ACCURATE. BUT THE INDUSTRY AFFORDING THEM MUST HAVE IT AND I SAY INDUSTRY MUST NOT HAVE IT. WE SHOULD HAVE TO STAND FOR THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS THAT THE E.P.A. DID NOT CONDUCT ANY MODELS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:37:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.

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    MR. TERRY

    AGAIN, IN THE ENTIRE RECORD THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF…

    AGAIN, IN THE ENTIRE RECORD THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO E.P.A. THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE CONCLUDE THAT IN GLOBAL REFINERIES, CO-2 AND TOTAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, WHETHER X.L., THE KEYSTONE X.L. IS BUILT OR NOT, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL CO-2. NO SIGNIFICANT CO-2. THAT'S THE EXACT LANGUAGE IN HERE, TO STRIKE THAT WOULD STRIKE THE TRUTH THAT'S SET FORTH IN THE STUDIES AND SUPPLANT IT WITH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN ALL OF THE MODELS AND STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:38:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT --

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  • 03:38:55 PM

    MR. RUSH

    SPEAKER. WITH THAT I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    MADAM CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT.

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    MS. ESHOO

    MADAM CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PROHIBITED IN HOUSE REPORT 112- 181 OFFERED BY MS.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 PROHIBITED IN HOUSE REPORT 112- 181 OFFERED BY MS. ESHOO OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:39:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. ESHOO, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. ESHOO, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:39:46 PM

    MS. ESHOO

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU IN THE CHAIR.…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU IN THE CHAIR. PIPELINE SAFETY IS NOT A SUBJECT THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO TAKE LIGHTLY. ON SEPTEMBER 10 OF 2010, LAST YEAR, A NATURAL GAS EXPLOSION IN SAN BRUNO, CALIFORNIA, JUST NORTH OF MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND CONGRESSWOMAN SPIRE'S DISTRICT, KILLED -- SPEIER'S DISTRICT, KILLED EIGHT PEOPLE, INJURED DOZENS OF OTHERS AND DESTROYED 55 HOMES. THIS IS FROM A NATURAL GAS EXPLOSION. SINCE 1938 CONGRESS HAS ATTEMPTED TO PROMOTE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE SAFETY BUT THE HORRIFIC EXPLOSIONS LIKE THE ONE IN SAN BRUNO, CALIFORNIA, CONTINUE TO OCCUR EVERY YEAR SOMEPLACE IN OUR COUNTRY. IT'S A DANGEROUS BUSINESS UNDER THE BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCES. TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TAR SANDS PIPELINE, WHICH WE HAVE LITTLE EXPERIENCE REGULATE -- REGULATING, WITHOUT A SOLID UNDERSTANDING OF THE SAFETY ISSUES IS AN ENORMOUS AND I THINK DANGEROUS MISTAKE. WE'VE HEARD STRONG, WELL-INFORMED CONCERNS THAT PIPELINES CARRYING TAR SANDS AND THE CHEMICALED BY MINUTE MAY POSE GREATER SAFETY RISKS THAN EVEN THOSE PIPELINES CARRYING CONVENTIONAL OR SYNTHETIC CRUDE. ON JUNE 16 OF THIS YEAR DURING AN ENERGY AND POWER SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING ON PIPELINE SAFETY CYNTHIA QUARTERMAN, THE ADMINISTER OF THE PIPELINE AND HAS ORDEROUS MATERIAL SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, TESTIFIED THAT THIS AGENCY SPECIFICALLY TASKED WITH RESEARCHING AND ADMINISTERING PIPELINE SAFETY HAS NOT ANALYZED THE RISKS OF THESE NEW PIPELINES. BUT MRS. QUARTERMAN REPLIED WHEN ASKED THAT THE AGENCY WOULD BE PLEASED TO MAKE SUCH A REVIEW. I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD BE SAFER IF THEY DID. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE IT TO COMPLETE A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE PROPERTIES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF BIDEMIN AND THE HAZARDOUS PIPELINE REGULATION BEFORE A FINAL PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT IS ISSUED. I THINK THE STUDY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL AMERICANS AND IT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT TO REGULATE PIPELINES USED FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF TAR SANDS CRUDE OIL. THIS APPROACH I THINK MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S FAR LESS COSTLY TO BUILD PIPELINES CORRECTLY THAN TO TRY TO FIX OR REPLACE A LINE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT. THE EXPLOSION THAT OCCURRED IN SAN BRUNO, CALIFORNIA, AND THE RECENT OIL SPILLS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, PARTICULARLY THE SPILLS FROM TRANSCANADA'S KEYSTONE PIPELINE, WHICH LEAKED 21,000 GALLONS OF CRUDE IN NORTH DAKOTA, I WANT TO REPEAT THAT, LEAKED 21,000 GALLONS OF CRUDE IN NORTH DAKOTA, ARE A WARNING TO ALL OF US THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT. SO, LET'S PROTECT LIVES, MONEY, PROPERTY AND TAKE THE PROPER PRECAUTIONS NOW AND FOR THESE REASONS I URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND I WILL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.

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  • 03:43:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU. I THINK THE CRUX OF THIS IS THAT THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THANK YOU. I THINK THE CRUX OF THIS IS THAT THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA'S ASKING FOR A -- ANOTHER STUDY AND THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF THE NEW TACTIC OF HOW TO DELAY OR KILL A BILL, LET'S JUST DO STAUDY INSTEAD OF IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING. BUT I WANT TO ALSO THEN TALK TO THE POINT ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PIPELINE THAT SHE BRINGS UP WITH THE CHEMICAL THAT HELPS THE CRUDE ACTUALLY FLOW THROUGH THE PIPELINE BETTER. THIS ISN'T NEW, THIS CHEMICAL ISN'T NEW TO THE PIPELINE HAS ORDEROUS MATERIAL SAFETY AGENCIES. IN FACT, HEAVY CRUDE HAS BEEN SENT THROUGH PIPELINES WITH THIS CHEMICAL SINCE THE 1920'S, INCLUDING OUT OF CALIFORNIA. SO THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DEAL WITH THIS ALREADY, THEY ARE WORKING ON THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE TO ASSIST THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION SO THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF A STUDY AND I RESERVE.

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  • 03:44:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 03:44:49 PM

    MS. ESHOO

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR TO. RESPOND TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MR. TERRY,…

    THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR TO. RESPOND TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MR. TERRY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DIDN'T COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY WITH A TACTIC. I OFFERED THIS, I RAISED THIS IN THE COMMITTEE, WE HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT THERE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AN E.I.F. IS BEING CONDUCTED BUT AN E.I.S. ON THE ENTIRE PIPELINE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I AM RAISING. AND THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY, WHEN SHE APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL NOT BEEN AN EXAMINATION IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE TAR SANDS CRUDE OIL AND BIDEMIN SAID THAT HER AGENCY WOULD BE PLEASED TO UNDERTAKE THAT STUDY. SO I'M HERE TODAY OBVIOUSLY TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK IT'S BASED ON GOOD COMMON SENSE THAT WE EXAMINE THIS BEFORE WE GO AHEAD WITH IT. AND I RAISE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY REAL, AND THAT IS THAT A HANDFUL OF MILES FROM WHERE I LIVE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUTSIDE MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHERE LIVES WERE LOST, EIGHT PEOPLE WERE KILLED, DOZENS WERE INJURED AND 55 HOMES DESTROYED. SO THIS IS NOT A TACTIC. THIS IS NOT TO DELAY. THIS IS TO GET THIS RIGHT BEFORE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED. I THINK THE AGENCY CAN DO THIS ON AN EXPEDITED BASIS. I'M NOT SEEKING TO DELAY AND TO BLOW UP ANYTHING. I'M HERE RELATIVE TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY. AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:46:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.

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    MR. TERRY

    I DO, TOO, HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN PHMSA TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER…

    I DO, TOO, HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN PHMSA TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE CHEMICAL CREATES ANY ISSUES OF BITUMEN. THE BEEN AROUND FOR 91 YEARS WITH HEAVY CRUDE. SO I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DELAYS OR STUDIES. MS. QUARTERMAN SAID SHE'S UNDERTAKING THE STUDY AND THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN HER RECOMMENDATION, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:47:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN…

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:47:36 PM

    MS. ESHOO

    A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, MADAM CHAIR.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT'S NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS RISE?

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  • 03:47:59 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    I RISE TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MRS. CHRISTENSEN OF…

    NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MRS. CHRISTENSEN OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.

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  • 03:48:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS,…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, MRS. CHRISTENSEN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:48:25 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AS I SAY I RISE TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT WHICH…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AS I SAY I RISE TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD SIMPLY ADD A PROVISION TO H.R. 1938 TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL MAKE IT HARDER TO ADDRESS GLOBAL WARMING. ALLOWING THE TRANSPORT OF PETROLEUM TO THE REFINERIES IN THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS. REPORTS INDICATE THAT THE PRODUCTION OF FUEL FROM TAR SANDS CAN YIELD GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS NEARLY THREE TIMES AS HIGH AS THOSE PRODUCED FROM CONVENTIONAL EXTRACTION. WHILE MY COLLEAGUES AND I LAST CONGRESS WORKED TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY 2020, CANADA HAS PROJECTED THAT THEIR EMISSIONS WILL GROW 25% BY 2020 WITH THOSE FROM TAR SANDS BEING THE SINGLE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE WORKING TO EXPEDITE. H.R. 1938 MAKES A SERIES OF FINDINGS RELATED TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE, SOME OF THESE MATTERS ARE A MATTER OF OPINION AND SO MUCH IS JUST FLATOUT WRONG. ALL OF THESE FINDINGS SHOW ONE CHARACTERISTIC. THEY ALL SUPPORT THE PIPELINE, AND FRACTS NOT CONCLUDED. IN FACT, THERE ARE A LOT OF INCONVENIENT FACTS ABOUT THE PIPELINE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW. TAR SANDS REQUIRE FAR MORE ENERGY TO EXTRACT AND PROCESSED THAN CONVENTIONAL CRUDE OIL. THE RESULT IS THAT EMISSIONS OF USING TAR SANDS FUEL ARE APPROXIMATELY -- AS HIGH AS 37% HIGHER THAN FROM OUR BASELINE FUEL MIX. THIS PIPELINE WOULD ALMOST DOUBLE OUR CURRENT USE OF TAR SANDS FUEL. AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO CURB CARBON EMISSIONS, KEYSTONE PIPELINE MAKES US MORE RELIANT ON ONE OF THE MOST DIRTIEST SOURCES OF FUEL CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. IN SHORT, TAR SANDS OIL THREATENTS OUR AIR, WATER -- THREATENS OUR AIR, WATER, LAND AND INCREASES OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND DEMAND FOR NART GAS. IT HAS NO PLACE IN THE CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY. ON PAGE 3, 198 OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE COULD INCREASE CARBON POLLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE U.S. BY UP TO 23 MILLION METRIC TONS OF CO-2 EQUIVALENT PER YEAR. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO THE ANNUAL EMISSIONS FROM AN EXTRA 4.5 MILLION PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE CDEIS FURTHER INDICATES THAT MOST OF THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WILL COX FROM THE PRODUCTION OF -- WILL COME FROM THE PRODUCTION OF CRUDE OIL, REFINING OF THE CRUDE OIL AND COMBUSTION OF THE PRODUCTS. TRANSPORTATION OF THE CRUDE OIL TO THE REFINERY AND TRANSPORTATION OF THE PRODUCTS TO THE MARKET ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RANGE OF SECONDARY CARBON EMISSIONS TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. IN A LETTER TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT, OUR VERY OWN E.P.A. INDICATED THAT THE EXTRA GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPOSED PROJECT MAY RANGE FROM 600 MILLION TO UP TO 1.15 BILLION TONS OF CO-2 OVER KEYSTONE X.L.'S LIFE CYCLE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WHILE THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND E.P.A. RECOGNIZED THE HUGE RISKS INCURRED, THE PROPONENTS OF H.R. 1938 SIMPLY IGNORE THEM WHILE SOME WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PIPELINE WILL ENHANCE ENERGY SECURITY, THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS EQUATION MUST BE CONSIDERED. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO INCREASE HARMFUL AIR EMISSIONS AND FURTHER JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:51:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME.

  • 03:52:02 PM

    MR. TERRY

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    TWO POINTS HERE. I THINK NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT…

    TWO POINTS HERE. I THINK NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT REALLY HELPS DEFINED WHAT THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS. IT ISN'T NECESSARILY THE PIPELINE OR ITS PLACEMENT OF THE PIPELINE OR A GIMMICKAL THAT'S IN IT. IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE OIL, AND AS WE USE MORE OIL IT GETS HEAVIER. I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS' AMENDMENT, THE E.P.A. IS DOING THIS SWITCH WHERE YOU DON'T COMPARE A HEAVY CRUDE OR SOUR TO IT THE SAME LIKE -- THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT IN BY VENEZUELA. NOW, YOU HAVE TO COMPARE IT TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SWEETER CRUDE OR EASIER TO REFINE CRUDE. THE REALITY HERE -- AND THAT'S THE POINT THAT'S MADE IN THE STUDIES ITSELF IN THE PART THAT SHE READS FROM -- THE GENTLELADY READ FROM -- IS THAT WE'RE USING A HEAVIER CRUDE. I THINK THAT'S AN UNFAIR COMPARISON. WE HAVE TO DO HEAVY TO HEAVY TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN GREENHOUSE GASES. THERE'S NO RUSHING OR EXPEDITING. THIS HAS BEEN SITTING AROUND FOR THREE YEARS. SO IT'S REALLY TIME TO GET UP AND DO SOMETHING. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. SHIMKUS.

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  • 03:53:37 PM

    MR. SHIMKUS

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    MR. SHIMKUS

    YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. LISTEN, THIS DEBATE IS ABOUT U.S. ENERGY SECURITY,…

    YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. LISTEN, THIS DEBATE IS ABOUT U.S. ENERGY SECURITY, NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY AND JOBS. THE ORIGINAL KEYSTONE PIPELINE COST $2 BILLION. THOUSANDS OF U.S. JOBS. THE EXPANSION OF THE REFINERY BORDERING MY DISTRICT AND BORDERING THE CHAIRWOMAN'S DISTRICT IS THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND AN EXPANSION OF A REFINERY. KEYSTONE X.L. WILL HELP US CREATE THOUSANDS OF NEW JOBS, EXPANDING THE PIPELINE, EXPANDING NEW REFINERIES, GETTING DOWN TO THE REFINERIES IN TEXAS. LISTEN, THE CANADIANS ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS PIPELINE IN ONE OR TWO DIRECTIONS. THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO GO SOUTH TO HELP US BECOME NORTH AMERICAN RELIANT AND SECURE IN ENERGY OR THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS PIPELINE WEST TO PUT IT ON TANKERS AND TO SHIP IT TO CHINA. NOW, I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, WHAT'S MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE, SECURE AND SOUND -- A PIPELINE OR A SUPERTANKER? WHAT'S BETTER FOR OUR COUNTRY, TO HAVE THAT OIL COMING TO THE UNITED STATES OR TO HAVE THAT OIL GOING TO CHINA? I THINK THE ANSWER'S CLEAR. WE CAN BECOME NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENT. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE IS PART OF THAT. I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE. I'D ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 03:55:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.

  • 03:55:08 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT THAT IS A PROBLEM. WHILE WE WILL BE USING OIL FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S TIME FOR US TO BEGIN TO GO TOWARDS A MORE GREENER ECONOMY AND TO SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH. MY AMENDMENT IS IN THE DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE FINDING. THE FINDING SAYS THERE'S -- THE X.L. PIPELINE WILL RESULT IN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TOTAL U.S. OR GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WHEN E.P.A. AND THE -- ALSO THE SUPPLEMENTAL E.I.S. FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE CLEARLY SAYS RANGE FROM 600 MILLION TO 1.15 BILLION TONS OF CO-2, ASSUMING THE LIFE CYCLE THAT'S PROJECTED, AND ALSO THAT THE RANGE COULD BE EQUIVALENT TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM THE COMBUSTION OF FUELS FROM APPROXIMATELY $THIS IS FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT $ 588,000 TO 4.5 MILLION PASSENGER -- 588,000 TO 4.5 MILLION PASSENGER VEHICLES. OR ENERGY CONSUMED BY APPROXIMATELY 255,000 TO $-- 1.9 MILLION HOMES. THE SOCIAL COSTS TO HUMAN HEALTH, PROPERTY DAMAGES, FLOOD RISK, ECOSYSTEM SERVICES DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE. SO EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN UNDER DISCUSSION FOR A LONG TIME, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED, AND I -- WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:56:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    JOIRT. -- THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN…

    JOIRT. -- THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.

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  • 03:56:45 PM

    MR. TERRY

    I STILL RISE IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ACCURATE REFLECT THE…

    I STILL RISE IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ACCURATE REFLECT THE FINDINGS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:56:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS HAS 15…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS HAS 15 SECONDS.

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  • 03:57:04 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    WELL, JUST TO SAY, MADAM SPEAKER, WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE…

    WELL, JUST TO SAY, MADAM SPEAKER, WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE EMISSIONS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT CANADA, JUST PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE TAR SANDS, THEIR EMISSIONS ARE PROJECTED TO RISE BY 25%. SO I CONTINUE TO OFFER MY AMENDMENT AND I ASK FOR THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:57:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. EXCUSE ME. IT'S NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISE?

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  • 03:57:56 PM

    MR. COHEN

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISES BECAUSE HE HAS AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 03:58:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN A GENTLEWOMAN? IF SO THE CHAIR APOLOGIZES.

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    MR. COHEN

    SO BUT I'VE BEEN CALLED MUCH WORSE.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. COHEN OF…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. COHEN OF TENNESSEE.

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  • 03:58:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, AND A MEMBER…

    RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE.

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  • 03:58:38 PM

    MR. COHEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 03:58:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 03:58:44 PM

    MR. COHEN

    AS THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE U.S. PUBLIC CONSIDER WHETHER THE PROPOSED…

    AS THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE U.S. PUBLIC CONSIDER WHETHER THE PROPOSED KEYSTONE PIPELINE IS IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION BE MADE AVAILABLE. THAT'S WHY I OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO THIS LEGISLATION THAT ELIMINATES A RHETORICAL BASELESS SAFETY CLAIM AND REPLACES IT WITH A SUBSTANTIATED FACTUAL STATEMENT. TRANS CANADA IS PART OF A CAMPAIGN TO BRAND THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE AS SAFE AND THEIR COMPANY AS RESPONSIBLE OWNERS. I AM SURE THAT B.P. OIL SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT DEEPWATER, BUT THAT WASN'T TRUE. AND JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. IT IS ONE THING FOR A FOREIGN OIL COMPANY TO PLOY MISLEADING RHETORIC BUT IT'S NOT THE PLACE OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO ENDORSE IT -- THESE MISTRUTHS. IT HAS A BRIEF OBJECTIVE GLANCE OF THE SAFETY RECORD TO SAY THAT TRANS CANADA'S CLAIMS DO NOT HAVE THE SLIGHTEST SCRUTINY. WHEN SELLING KEYSTONE, THAT'S NOT KEYSTONE X.L., WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT, KEYSTONE, ANOTHER PIPELINE, TO THE U.S., TRANS CANADA CLAIMED THAT THE PIPELINE WAS, QUOTE, STATE OF THE ART, UNQUOTE, AND WENT AS DUBBING TO AS, QUOTE, THE SAFEST PIPELINE EVER BUILT. WELL, WE'RE IN TROUBLE. AFTER ONE DISASTER HERE OF OPERATION, TRANS CANADA'S ROSY CLAIMS ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE REALITY THAT EXISTS. IN LESS THAN 12 MONTHS OF OPERATION, THE SO-CALLED SAFEST PIPELINE EVER BUILT HAS SPILLED 12 TIMES IN THE UNITED STATES, THE DIRTY DOZEN, AND 21 TIMES IN CANADA. FOLLOWING THAT 1TH DOMESTIC SPILL, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SHUT DOWN PIPELINE OPERATIONS BECAUSE KEYSTONE WAS DEEMED, QUOTE, A THREAT TO LIFE, PROPERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT, AND SINCE KEYSTONE IS TRANSCANADA'S FIRST WHOLLY OWNED OIL PIPELINE IN THE UNITED STATES, TRANSCANADA'S SAFETY RECORD IS OFF TO A PRETTY BAD START. TRANSCANADA'S MISLEADING SAFETY CLAIM EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THEIR SIMPLE RHETORIC. HERE ARE THREE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS CLAIMS FOR KEYSTONE X.L. NUMBER ONE, THAT TRANSCANADA'S CLAIM THAT IF AND WHEN THE PROPOSED KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE HAS A LEAK IT WILL SHUT DOWN THE PIPELINE ALMOST INSTANTLY. UNFORTUNATELY SPILLS ON THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT TRANSCANADA'S THEORETICAL RESPONSE IS FAR BETTER THAN THEIR ACTUAL RESPONSE. IN MAY'S KEYSTONE SPILL OF 21,000 GALLONS, IT TOOK TRANSCANADA 44 MINUTES TO SHUT DOWN THE PIPELINE AFTER THE SPILL. AND IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN EVEN LONGER HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR A LAND OWNER WHO CALLED IN THE SPILL WHICH SHOT A SIX-STORY-HIGH GUSHER INTO THE AIR. YOU'D THINK IT WAS TEXAS. NUMBER TWO, TRANSCANADA SUGGESTS THERE IS LITTLE RISK OF A SPILL ON THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. HOWEVER THE ONLY INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE WORST CASE SPILLS FOR KEYSTONE X.L. INDICATE THAT TRANSCANADA HAS GREATLY UNDERSTATED THE SEVERITY AND FREQUENCY OF SPILLS, BE A ESTIMATE THAT IS MORE THAN 800% -- AN ESTIMATE THAT IS MORE THAN 800% LOWER THAN WHAT WILL LIKELY OCCUR. WE HAVE WITNESSED THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE 40,000-GALLON SPILL IN THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER. NOW TRY TO IMAGINE HOW DEVASTATING A 6.95 MILLION, ALMOST SEVEN MILLION GALLON SPILL OF MORE TOXIC OIL WOULD BE ON THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER. A SPILL OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND DEVASTATION IS POSSIBLE IF WE APPROVE THE KEYSTONE X.L. NUMBER THREE, TRANSCANADA CLAIMS THAT KEYSTONE X.L. WILL BE BUILT OF THICKER STEAL AND OPERATE -- STEEL AND OPERATED AT LOWER THAN ALLOWED PRESSURES BUT A MAJOR SEGMENT OF KEYSTONE X.L. BE MADE OF THINNER STEEL THAN EXXON MOBIL'S FAILED PIPELINE AND WHILE KEYSTONE X.L. WOULD ALLOW -- RUN AT LOWER PRESSURES, IT WOULD RUN AT PRESSURES TWICE THAT OF SILVER TIP. IT WILL TRANSMIT TAR STANDS WHICH IS MORE CORROSIVE THAN OIL. IT REVEALS A WEB OF EXAGGERATIONS, UNDERSTATEMENTS AND LIES THAT HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY WOVEN TOGETHER TO MANUFACTURE AN IMAGE OF SAFETY AND RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS CRITICAL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE DANGERS OF THE PROPOSED PIPELINE. CONGRESS MUST EXERCISE MORE SCRUTINY AND NOT TAKE TRANSCANADA'S MANUFACTURED RHETORIC AT FACE VALUE. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET TRANSCANADA ONCE AGAIN DUPE US INTO PERMITTING AN EVEN MORE DANGEROUS PIPELINE THAN KEYSTONE WAS. FOR AS THEY SAY AND WE ALL KNOW, FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME. SOMEBODY FROM TEXAS TRIED TO SAY THAT ONCE BUT WE KNOW THE STATEMENT. I URGE SUPPORT FOR MY AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:03:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA.

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  • 04:03:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE DID YIELD BACK.

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    MR. TERRY

    YIELDED BACK. OK, I'M SORRY. THERE'S NO DOUBT THE FACTS ARE THAT ON THE…

    YIELDED BACK. OK, I'M SORRY. THERE'S NO DOUBT THE FACTS ARE THAT ON THE KEYSTONE BUT NOT THE KEYSTONE X.L. THERE HAVE BEEN 12 LEAKS. 12 LEAKS OF AS LITTLE AS FIVE GALLONS TO 400 BARRELS OF THE RECENT ONE AND THORPSE DETERMINED TO BE PART -- THOSE WERE DETERMINED TO BE PART OR CAUSED NOT BY THE SAFETY OF THE PIPELINE BUT BY VALVES THAT WERE MALMANUFACTURED. THERE WAS A MANUFACTURING PROBLEM THAT WITHIN A 12-HOUR PERIOD THEY WERE UP AND RUNNING AGAIN, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN REPLACED, THAT'S THE TYPE OF RESPONSE THAT WE EXPECT UNDER OUR PIPELINE LAWS. AND SO I THINK THE ISSUES HERE ARE BETTER PLACED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS OF PIPELINE SAFETY OF WHICH BOTH TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND ENERGY AND COMMERCE WILL BEGIN WORKING ON SOON. AND SO I JUST DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF AN AMENDMENT OR FACT FINDING TO BE PUT INTO THIS BILL. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:04:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. ALL TIME HAVING BEEN…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. ALL TIME HAVING BEEN YIELDED BACK, THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 04:05:15 PM

    MR. COHEN

    ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE --

  • 04:05:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFER BY THE…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFER BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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  • 04:05:45 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-181 OFFERED BY MR. MURPHY OF --…

    NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-181 OFFERED BY MR. MURPHY OF -- 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. MURPHY OF CONNECTICUT.

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  • 04:05:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY.

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  • 04:06:08 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 04:06:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:06:14 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY ASKS THE SIMPLE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY ASKS THE SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY SHOULD AMERICA SHOULDER NEW ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS TO HELP POWER THE ECONOMY OF CHINA? MANY MEMBERS HAVE COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY TO DOCUMENT THE CONSIDERABLE ECOLOGICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH THREATS POTHE POSED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSCANADA KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. IN ADDITION TO PRODUCING 40% MORE LIFE CYCLE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAN CONVENTIONAL OIL, THE RECENT EXXON PIPELINE SPILL IN MONTANA'S YELLOWSTONE RIVER SERVES AS A STARK REMINDER OF THE VERY REAL RISKS POSED BY THESE KINDS OF PIPELINE PROJECTS. HOWEVER, IN DISCOUNTING THESE FACTS, THE PROPONENTS OF KEYSTONE X.L. EXERT THAT WITHOUT THE NEW PIPELINE, CANADA'S DIRTY TAR SANDS OIL WILL BE SHIPPED TO CHINA AND TO OTHER OVERSEAS MARKETS. THIS HOWEVER SIMPLY ISN'T TRUE. WITHOUT ACCESS TO A MAJOR NEW SHIPPING TERMINAL AND REFINING HUB ON THE GULF COAST, CANADA'S TAR SANDS WILL REMAIN STRANDED ON THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT. INDEED, KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE IS ESSENTIAL -- KEYSTONE X.L. IS ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMIC EXPANSION OF CANADIAN TAR SANDS BECAUSE IT OPENS UP NEW TRADE ROUTES TO THE EAST. CURRENT PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE CARRIES TAR SANDS OIL TO THE MIDWEST BUT NO FURTHER. BY 2005 EXISTING MARKETS WILL NO LONGER BE SUFFICIENT TO ABSORB THIS INCREASED TAR SANDS PRODUCTION. SO THE KEY STOND X.L. PIPELINE WILL PROVIDE -- KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL PROVIDE THAT NEW MARKET TO CHINA FOR THIS OIL. INDEED EARLIER THIS YEAR THE C.E.O. OF HAVE ALEROW ENERGY, ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SHIP OIL THROUGH KEYSTONE X.L., SAID THIS, HE SAID THAT THE FUTURE OF REFINING IN THE UNITED STATES IS IN EXPORTS. SO AMERICA IS INCREASINGLY NOW THE GLOBAL MIDDLEMAN IN WORLD OIL EXPORTS. OUR OIL EXPORTS HAVE DOUBLED IN THE LAST FIVE YE YEERINGS AND THE QUESTION IS THIS, SHOULDN'T WE HAVE SOME SAY IN WHERE OUR OIL GOES? WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS NEW PIPELINE WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOULDERING ALL OF THE INCREASED ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS THAT COME WITH ITS CONSTRUCTION TO HELP MEET THE GROWING OVERSEAS OIL DEMAND OF OUR ECONOMIC COMPETITORS. HOW DOES THAT FURTHER THE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE OF THE UNITED STATES? SO THE AMENDMENT WE'RE OFFERING TODAY WITH MR. COHEN AND MR. WELCH WILL MERELY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT A DECISION TO PERMIT KEYSTONE X.L. IS A DECISION TO IN PART HELP PROMOTE NORTH AMERICAN OIL EXPORTS TO CHINA. WHETHER YOU LIKE THAT OR DON'T LIKE THAT, WE SHOULD AT LEAST ADMIT THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE BYPRODUCTS OF OR ACTION TODAY. I'D URGE -- OF OUR ACTION TODAY. I'D URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND FACE THE REALITY OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE RATHER THAN JUST THE RHETORIC AND WITH THAT I'D RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:08:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    NOT RESERVE.

  • 04:09:00 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    THAT THE POINT TO MR. COHEN OF TENNESSEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. COHEN

    MR. SPEAKER. I APPRECIATE THE ACTION OF MR. MURPHY IN YIELDING TIME. I…

    MR. SPEAKER. I APPRECIATE THE ACTION OF MR. MURPHY IN YIELDING TIME. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE MURPHY-COHEN-WELCH AMENDMENT. THIS SHEDS LIGHT FROM THE OIL INDUSTRY'S ATTEMPT TO PRESSURE THE U.S. INTO APPROVING KEYSTONE X.L. BY THREATENING TO EXPORT TAR SANDS TO CHINA. MR. MURPHY'S WELL STATED. CANADA HAS ALREADY SAID THEMSELVES THEY CAN'T GET THAT OIL OUT OF CANADA WITHOUT THIS PIPELINE. THEY CAN'T GET IT TO CHINA UNLESS THEY BUILD THE PIPELINE. THEY WANT TO BUILD A PIPELINE THROUGH AMERICA, OVER ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT AQUIFERS, THREATENING OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR DRINKING WATER SO THAT CANADA CAN GET SOME OIL TO POSSIBLY GO TO CHINA. AND CANADA CANNOT GET IT TO CHINA WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE UNITED STATES. IT MAKES NO SENSE. AND THE FACT IS THIS AMENDMENT LIKE THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS ARE JUST SIMPLY PUTTING THE FACTS, THE TRUTH INTO THIS PARTICULAR PAPER. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THESE FACTS, NOBODY DISPUTES THE FACTS. THE FACT THE GENTLEMAN AGREED IN THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A DOZEN LEAKS OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. HE MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THEM WERE VERY SMALL. THE AVERAGE SOMEONE 1,000 BARRELS. SO IF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE, WHICH WAS THE SAFEST IN THE WORLD, WAS NOT SAFE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MENTIONING IT IN THE FINDINGS? AND THE SAME THING HERE. WHAT THEY'VE SAID ABOUT CHINA IS JUST NOT TRUE. THE ONLY FEASIBLE ROUTE TO EXPORT TAR SAND TO CHINA IS THE KEYSTONE X.L. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE UNITED STATES -- EFFECT THE UNITED STATES' USE OF OIL AS A COMMODITY THAT THE CANADIANS WANT TO SELL AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO US CHEAPER THAN THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE TO ANYBODY ELSE. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY BUT THEY HAVE OPPOSITION IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AS WELL. WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND NOT HAVE SOME SITUATION WHERE MAYBE BECAUSE CANADA'S HELPING US WITH OIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT WE'RE HELPING THEM WITH OIL THROUGH OUR MIDWEST. AMERICA'S MIDWEST IS TOO IMPORTANT TO SACRIFICE TO SOME MISGUIDED ADVENTURE THAT CANADA GOT INTO WITH US IN THE MIDDLE EAST ALL BECAUSE OF OIL. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE MURPHY-COHEN-WELCH AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK MY TIME TO MR. MURPHY.

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  • 04:11:14 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE REMAINING TO MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS.

  • 04:11:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

  • 04:11:36 PM

    MR. RUSH

    I STAND IN SUPPORT OF MR. MURPHY'S AMENDMENT AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD SAY…

    I STAND IN SUPPORT OF MR. MURPHY'S AMENDMENT AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD SAY A MISLEADING FINDING ABOUT THE TAR SANDS IN CANADA WITH INFORMATION. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE MINORITY'S ARGUMENT IS THAT CANADA HAS NO WAY TO SEND OIL TO CHINA NOW. AND NO REALISTIC PROSPECT OF EVER SENDING OIL TO CHINA, THEY WON'T DO THIS ANY TIME SOON. SO I THINK THIS IS A COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT AND I CERTAINLY STAND IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 04:12:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RISE?

  • 04:12:34 PM

    MR. TERRY

    IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AMENDMENT.

  • 04:12:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND FIRST OF ALL, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PIPELINE IS SO…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND FIRST OF ALL, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PIPELINE IS SO THAT AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL HAVE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF FUEL MADE IN AMERICA. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS. AND THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT ARE EXPANDING THEIR REFINERIES RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THIS CRUDE. NOW, IT'S BEEN STATED THAT IF WE DON'T USE IT, THEN THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE USED BECAUSE IT'S LAND BLOCKED BUT NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IT'S ONLY 800 MILES FROM THE POINT THAT THE OIL SANDS WILL BE USED TO THE VANCOUVER COAST WHERE IT COULD BE PUT ON AND WOULD BE PUT ON TANKERS TO BE SHIPPED TO CHINA. NOW, EMBRIDGE IS ALREADY IN THE PROMOTING PROCESS FOR A PIPELINE THAT WILL LINK THE FIELDS IN NORTHERN ALBERTA TO A TERMINAL IN BRITISH COLOMBIA -- BRITISH COLUMBIA. IT'S 525,000 BARRELS PER DAY SO THE STATEMENT THAT IT WILL BE LAND LOCKED AND NEVER USED IS JUST SIMPLY FLAT WRONG. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CANADIANS WILL DO. TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO OUR REFINERIES IN OKLAHOMA, CHICAGO, TEXAS AND LOUISIANA SO IT CAN THEN BE REFINED AND PUT ON JUST A TANKER TO GO SOUTH THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL AND THROUGH JUST MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MOST STRINGENT REGULATIONS IN REFINING AND ON CLEANING THE -- OR A CLEAN PROCESS THAT ADD AS GREAT DEAL MORE TO THE COST OF REFINING -- THAT ADDS A GREAT DEAL MORE COST TO REFINING SO IT MAKES NO ECONOMIC SENSE TO DO THAT. IT WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER TO JUST PUT A PIPELINE TO THE WEST COAST OF CANADA, PUT IT ON TANKERS, IT WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER TO DO THAT. AT THIS POINT I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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  • 04:14:43 PM

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    NOW SOME ESTIMATES HAVE SAID THAT FOR EVERY $1 BILLION YOU SPEND ON…

    NOW SOME ESTIMATES HAVE SAID THAT FOR EVERY $1 BILLION YOU SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE, IT YIELDS ABOUT 35,000 JOBS. THAT'S SOME JOBS THAT GO FOR MANUFACTURING, SOME JOBS FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND SOME JOBS FOR THE SUPPORTS THAT HELP THOSE WORKERS AS WELL AS THE PLACES THEY WILL SPEND MONEY. STEAM FITTERS AND WELDERS WHO MAKE $45 TO $50 AN HOUR, OPERATING ENGINEERS, LABORERS WHO WILL EARN BETWEEN $23 AND $31 AN HOUR. THE. THIS IS AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED MORE JOBS. CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PIPELINE WITH OILS FROM CANADA IS GOING TO MAKE US LESS DEPENDENT ON OPEC. WE SEND $129 BILLION PER YEAR TO OPEC. THAT IS $129 BILLION IN FOREIGN AID THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO SEND TO THOSE COUNTRIES. $1129 BILLION TO COUNTRIES THAT USE U.S. DOLLARS AGAINST OUR SOLDIERS AND WE END UP FIGHTING THE WAR ON TERROR. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND. THIS IS A JOBS BILL, A BILL DEALING WITH A FRIEND AND A BILL THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND WE SHOULDN'T PUT MORE DELAYS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET OFF OF OUR ADDICTION MUCH OPEC OIL.

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  • 04:15:27 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    URGE DEFEAT OF THIS JOB-KILLING AMENDMENT.

  • 04:16:48 PM

    MR. TERRY

    THIS JOB-KILLING AMENDMENT. YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 04:17:10 PM

    MR. TERRY

    A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:17:38 PM

    MR. RUSH

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 04:17:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS.

  • 04:17:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, AND A MEMBER…

    HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH.

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  • 04:18:01 PM

    MR. RUSH

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, TODAY IS THE DAY ON FAST TRACKING THE KEYSTONE…

    MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, TODAY IS THE DAY ON FAST TRACKING THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE BY TWO MONTHS. REMINDS ME OF A SAYING THAT ELOQUENTLY SUMS UP THE FIGHT BEFORE THIS CONGRESS. NONSENSE MINUS COMMON SENSE IS NONSENSE. OUR NATION SAFETY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE ECONOMY AND JOBS. IT IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE THAT WE ARE HERE DEBATING A BILL THAT IS TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY, COMPLETELY FUTILE AND NOT EVEN WORTH NOT ONE SECOND OF CONGRESS' TIME. MR. SPEAKER, THIS BILL WILL FORCE THE ADMINISTRATION TO ISSUE THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT FOR THE PIPELINE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THIS ARBITRARY WILLIE NILY TIME LINE WILL REDUCE THE ALLOCATED TIME THAT THE FEDERAL AGENCIES WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THE NATIONAL INTERESTS IN DECIDING WHETHER THIS PROPOSAL BY ALMOST 2/3 OF THE TIME THAT THEY NEED. WHILE ALSO REDUCING OR ELIMINATING THE COMMENT PERIOD. MR. SPEAKER, THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR 120 DAYS AFTER THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR NO LATER THAN JANUARY 1, 2012 FOR THE PRESIDENT TO ISSUE A FINAL DECISION ON THE PIPELINE. THIS IS VITAL AND NECESSARY PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO WEIGH IN WITH A NATIONAL INTEREST DETERMINATION, WHICH THIS WILL TAKE CARE IF NOT ELIMINATE. THEY HAVE A STATEMENT AND WE WILL INFORM THAT IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES TO COMPLETE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND REPLY TO THE TIME LINE OF NOVEMBER 1, AS THIS BILL WOULD MANDATE. EVENTUALLY, JUST YESTERDAY THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT THIS BILL WAS, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY SINCE THE AGENCY ALREADY PLANS TO REACH A FINAL DECISION BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND HAVING A HEARING THAT THIS BILL WILL BE -- BY THE ENACTMENT OF THIS BILL. MR. SPEAKER, WHETHER YOU SUPPORT THE PIPELINE OR NOT, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION AND IMPACTS SO AN INFORMED DECISION CAN BE MADE. SO I URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE TIME PERIOD FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO WEIGH IN WHILE ALSO MANDATING THAT A DECISION IS MADE WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER. WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:22:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA…

    FROM ILLINOIS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RISE?

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  • 04:22:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:22:47 PM

    MR. TERRY

    I WANT TO STATE THAT THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. THIS IS A $13 BILLION…

    I WANT TO STATE THAT THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. THIS IS A $13 BILLION PROJECT, $13 BILLION SPENT IN THE UNITED STATES, EMPLOYING UNITED STATES' WORKERS. ON THE SURFACE, MY FRIEND FROM ILLINOIS' AMENDMENT SEEMS FAIRLY INNOCUOUS, JUST DELAYING THIS DECISION BY 61 DAYS. THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, WE JUST HAD IT WITH THE DELAYS. THIS ISN'T RUSHING OR EXPEDITING, THIS IS ONLY WEEKS AWAY FROM A THREE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY FROM THE FILING OF THE APPLICATION, WHEN IN COMPARISON TO OTHER TRANSCONTINENTAL PIPELINES, THAT THE AVERAGE IS 18 TO 24 MONTHS. SO IT'S TIME THAT WE ACT. THE DATE OF NOVEMBER 1 WAS ACTUALLY CALCULATED BY THE TIME IT WOULD TAKE THE STATE DEPARTMENT AFTER THEY REQUESTED ANOTHER ROUND OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO SUFFICIENT TIME TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE, SO THERE'S JUST KNOW REASON TO BUMP IT BACK, THIS DATE FROM NOVEMBER 1 TO JANUARY 1. AND I WOULD YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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  • 04:24:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS IS RK RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 04:24:16 PM

    MR. KINZINGER

    TELL YOU, I'M FROM ILLINOIS AND ILLINOIS IS IN A TOUGH ENVIRONMENT RIGHT…

    TELL YOU, I'M FROM ILLINOIS AND ILLINOIS IS IN A TOUGH ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. TOUGH BUDGET, A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE HUGE UNEMPLOYMENT AND PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY WANT TO GO TO WORK. AND WHEN I DO TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN PLACES LIKE JOEL YET, PRINCETON OR THOSE -- GENTLELADY YET OR PRINCETON, I GET COMMENTS , WHY CAN'T WE BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THEY SAY WASHINGTON, D.C., IS BROKEN, ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE FACT WE CAN'T GET OUR ACT TOGETHER AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO TO INCREASE OIL THAT WE'RE NOT PULLING IN FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. I MEAN IT'S JUST VERY BASIC. HOW CAN WE DO ANYTHING IN THIS CONGRESS THAT WE CAN'T AGREE THAT OUR PARTNERS FROM THE NORTH BRING THEIR OIL HERE AND COME OFF OUR DEPENDENCE ON THE OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND FUND THE TERRORISTS THAT WE ARE FIGHTING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE UNITED STATES AND FOR ILLINOIS? FOR STARTERS, IT MEANS CREATING MORE THAN 100,000 AMERICAN JOBS. WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THE JOBS REPORTS LATELY, THEY AREN'T GOOD. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD 100,000 AMERICAN JOBS? THAT'S WHAT WE ARE OFFERING. THESE BILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL FROM OUR FRIENDS TO THE NORTH MEANS WE NEED LESS OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND VENEZUELA UNLESS OIL FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WE CAN NO LONGER RELY ON AND ARE NOT FRIENDLY TO THE UNITED STATES. WHAT'S BAD ABOUT THAT? IT MEANS $5.2 BILLION IN NEW PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR BANKRUPT STATES LIKE MY OWN, LIKE ILLINOIS. THE NORTH AMERICAN MADE ENERGY SECURITY ACT EXPEDITES A FINAL DECISION ON THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE AND WOULD ALLOW CANADIAN OIL SUPPLIES TO FLOW INTO THE U.S. MARKETS AND REQUIRES THE PRESIDENT TO ISSUE A FINAL PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT DECISION BY NOVEMBER 1, 2011. THIS BILL DOES NOT REQUIRE THE PRESIDENT TO ACCEPT THE BENEFITS OF THE PIPELINE BUT TO MAKE A LONG OVERDUE DECISION ON THIS PIPELINE. THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS AT THEIR DISCRETION THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE IF THE U.S. BENEFITS FROM THIS. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE OIL OUT OF CANADA. IF IT'S NOT THE UNITED STATES, IT WILL BE CHINA UNLESS WE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO EXPAND THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE AND IT WILL BE AMERICAN BUSINESSES, AMERICAN CONSUMERS AND THOSE THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED THAT ARE DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR A JOB IN THIS TERRIBLE ECONOMY WHO WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES FROM OUR INACTION. ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY REPORT, THE PIPELINE EXTENSION WILL ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE OUR OIL IMPORTS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND SUPPORT THE FINAL PASSAGE AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:27:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH IS…

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:27:36 PM

    MR. RUSH

    MUCH TIME I HAVE REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, HAS 30 SECONDS AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA…

    FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, HAS 30 SECONDS AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA HAS 30 SECONDS.

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  • 04:27:47 PM

    MR. RUSH

    FROM ILLINOIS TO KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE TO JOLIET, ILLINOIS. I HAVE…

    FROM ILLINOIS TO KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE TO JOLIET, ILLINOIS. I HAVE COME DOWN TO HIS DISTRICT AND SEE THE UNEMPLOYMENT. I AM NOT STANDING HERE SIGNING AGAINST JOBS, I AM SIDING FOR JOBS. AT THE SAME TIME WE FIGHT FOR JOBS, WE HAVE TO FIGHT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE INPUT INTO MAKING DECISIONS SUCH AS THIS. MR. SPEAKER, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THIS PIPELINE BENEFITS AMERICA AND NOT CHINA. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:28:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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  • 04:28:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 04:28:50 PM

    MR. RUSH

    A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 04:28:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:29:20 PM

    MS. HANABUSA

    HAVE AN AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MS. HANABUSA OF HAWAII.

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    THE CHAIR

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY NEED.

  • 04:29:43 PM

    MS. HANABUSA

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY NEED.

  • 04:29:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:29:51 PM

    MS. HANABUSA

    AMENDMENT REQUIRES THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT APPROVING THE CONSTRUCTION AND…

    AMENDMENT REQUIRES THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT APPROVING THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE THAT IT WILL NOT ISSUE UNTIL SUCH TIME THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY IN CONSULTATION WITH THE PHMSA HAS CALCULATED A WORST-CASE OIL-SPILL SCENARIO FOR THE PROPOSED PIPELINE AND HAS DEMONSTRATED TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE SECRETARY AND THE PHMSA THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY AND TECHNOLOGY TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY TO THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO. THE REASON THIS AMENDMENT IS SO NECESSARY IS BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 2,000-MILE PIPELINE FROM ALBERTA TO THE GULF COAST. IT CAN ACTUALLY ACCORDING TO THE BILL ITSELF, IT WILL INCREASE THE PRODUCTION AND THE PIPELINE WILL CARRY 700,000 TO 1.290 MILLION BARRELS A DAY. THIS WILL GO OVER AQUIFERS AND WHAT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY AFTER EXPERIENCING THE BP OIL SPILL EXPECT US TO ADDRESS AND RECOGNIZE THAT THAT TYPE OF CATASTROPHE MAY OCCUR AND WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS IT GIVES THE PEOPLE THAT ASSURANCE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, MR. SPEAKER, THAT PART OF THIS AMENDMENT, ALSO GIVES THE SECRETARY THE OPPORTUNITY TO WAVE THE REQUIREMENTS. IF THE SECRETARY AND -- WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS. IF THEY BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, IN FACT, COMPLETED A WORST-CASE DISCHARGE SCENARIO, THEN THEY CAN SAY THAT THIS PROVISION IS NO LONGER NECESSARY. . SO THIS IS REALLY FOR THE PEOPLE. IT GIVES THE PEOPLE PEACE OF MIND THAT IN FACT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THIS SITUATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING OVER AQUIFER AND MANY PEOPLE'S LANDS. 2,000 MILES. MR. SPEAKER, WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:31:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RESERVES HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RISE?

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  • 04:32:00 PM

    MR. TERRY

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:32:07 PM

    MR. TERRY

    THE THOUGHTS OF THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII. COMING FROM NEBRASKA WHERE…

    THE THOUGHTS OF THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII. COMING FROM NEBRASKA WHERE IT'S THE SAND HILLS AND THE SENSITIVE AREA AND THE AQUIFER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE IN MY STATE HAVE THE PIECE OF MIND AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MODELED OUT AND WRITTEN INTO THEIR PLANS. IN FACT, THAT'S THE WHOLE PREMISE OF PHMSA. AND SO THE ANALYSIS OF A WORST CASE SCENARIO SPILL IS ALREADY PART OF THE APPLICATION. IT'S PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT. FURTHERMORE, IT'S DEMOCRAT STRATE ITS RESPONSE PLAN IN THE EVENT -- IT'S DEMONSTRATED ITS RESPONSE PLAN IN THE EVENT OF A WORST CASE DISCHARGE THAT THE PUMPS WILL STOP IN NINE MINUTES AND THE VALVES WILL SHUT IN THREE MINUTES. SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS ARE PART OF THE RECORD SO THAT THE ENTITIES THAT HAVE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PRESIDENT ALREADY HAVE THAT DETERMINATION, THEN THEY'LL USE THOSE FACTS AND FIGURES AND MODELS TO DETERMINE WHAT TO RECOMMEND TO THE PRESIDENT, THEN THE PRESIDENT CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS REALLY YOU IS PURR FLEWOUS AND UNNECESSARY -- IS UNNECESSARY AND I RESERVE.

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  • 04:33:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:33:36 PM

    MS. HANABUSA

    MR. SPEAKER, YOU CAN TELL ME HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII HAS THREE MINUTES.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPONENT OF THIS MEASURE IS STATING, HOWEVER LET US ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS BILL IN ITS OWN REQUIREMENT SAYS THAT NOT LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THE PRESIDENT SHALL ISSUE AN ORDER EITHER GRANTING OR DENYING THE PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT. WE'RE NOT HERE TO SLOW THIS, WE'RE ACTUALLY HERE TO ASSIST THEM IF THIS IS REALLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THE REASON WHY IS THIS. IF YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT PROCESS AND WE ARE IN THE COMMENT PERIOD RIGHT NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT AFTER THE COMMENT PERIOD IS DONE THAT WHAT WILL THEN HAPPEN IS THAT YOU WILL THEN BE ABLE TO FILE CHALLENGES TO THE E.I.S. ITSELF. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT THEN CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IN A CHALLENGE TO AN E.I.S., THE SUFFICIENCY OF WHICH IF IT'S CHALLENGED AND THE FACT THAT IT DID NOT PROPERLY ADDRESS THE WORST CASE ANSWER AIR YO, THAT THERE IS A PROSE -- CASE SCENARIO, THAT THERE IS A PROCESS IN THE LAW ITSELF THAT WOULD PERMIT THEM TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN LOOK AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND I BELIEVE THAT ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT SUCH AS THIS, IT WOULD BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO ARGUMENT THAT COULD BRING IT TO A COMPLETE HALT. SO GIVEN THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES ON THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT REALLY WILL GIVE THE PEOPLE THE PEACE OF MIND AND IF THIS IS A PROJECT WORTHY OF GOING FORWARD THAT IT DOES ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:35:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM HAWAII YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY,…

    FROM HAWAII YIELDS BACK HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:35:22 PM

    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I JUST DISH WANT TO GIVE A DEGREE OF -- I…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I JUST DISH WANT TO GIVE A DEGREE OF -- I WANT TO GIVE A DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THIS SCENARIO HAS ALREADY BEEN SET FORTH. THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, PAGE 3-99, MAXIMUM SPILL VOLUME, IT'S ALREADY BEEN MODELS OUT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED AND JUST TO PROVIDE FURTHER CONFIDENCE, EVEN THE E.P.A. THAT WROTE A LETTER A FEW MONTHS AGO DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MAXIMUM SPILLS AND WHETHER THE RESPONSES WERE APPROPRIATE OR NOT. MOST OF THEIRS WAS ON GREENHOUSE GASES. SO THIS ISSUE IS PRETTY WELL SETTLED. THE FACTS ARE THERE FOR THOSE WHO WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I YIELD BACK AND REQUEST DEFEAT OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 04:36:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    BACK THEIR TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    BACK THEIR TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 04:36:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:36:49 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED OFFERED BY MR. JOHNSON OF GEORGIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, AND A MEMBER OWES POSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE -- OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON.

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  • 04:37:09 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY ON H.R. 1938, THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY ON H.R. 1938, THE NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY SECURITY ACT OF 2011. AND MY AMENDMENT TO THIS LEGISLATION. I OPPOSE H.R. 1938 WHICH WOULD ACCELERATE THE APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE COKE BROTHERS X.L. PIPELINE. NO ONE KNOWS HOW MUCH AIR POLLUTION THIS PIPELINE WILL CAUSE OR HOW THE POLLUTION WILL IMPACT THE PUBLIC HEALTH. MY AMENDMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY THE NATIONAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL AND THE SIERRA CLUB IS COMMON SENSE. I'M SIMPLY REQUESTING A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE ANY DECISION IS MADE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. EVEN THOUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED TWO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS ON THE KEYSTONE COKE BROTHERS X.L. PIPELINE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS FOUND THAT NEITHER STATEMENT INCLUDED A SATISFACTORY EVALUATION OF THE INCREASED AIR POLLUTION THAT WOULD COME AS A RESULT OF THIS PIPELINE'S OPERATION. COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THE OIL REFINERIES THAT WOULD BE ALONG THE TRANSPORTATION ROUTE FOR THESE TAR SANDS CRUDE ARE ALREADY EXPOSED TO DIRTY AIR. APPROVAL OF THE COKE BROTHERS KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. THE RAW TAR SANDS CRUDE IS MORE TOXIC AND ACIDIC THAN OTHER TYPES OF CRUDE. RAW TAR SANDS CRUDE PRODUCES SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HARMFUL POLLUTANTS AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAN CONVENTIONAL CRUDE OIL DUE TO THE COMPLEX REFINING PROCESS IT MUST GO THROUGH BEFORE IT REACHES GAS PUMPS. IN CHINA. AS THIS TYPE OF CRUDE HAS ONLY BEEN EXPORTED TO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA FOR A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THERE HAS NOT BEEN A THOROUGH STUDY ON HOW ITS TRANSPORT WOULD AFFECT AIR POLLUTION IN OUR NATION. IT'S TROUBLING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KEYSTONE COKE BROTHERS X.L. PIPELINE WHICH WOULD TRANSPORT 900,000 BARRELS OF THIS CRUDE OIL DAILY SHOULD TAKE PLACE BEFORE SUCH A STUDY IS EVER DONE. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PROPERLY ASSESS WHAT RISK THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PIPELINE MAY POSE TO OUR HEALTH. IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO SWEEP THESE CONCERNS UNDER THE RUG JUST TO RUSH THIS PROJECT TO THE FINISH LINE. VALID QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT HEALTH RISKS ASSOCIATED -- ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCREASED AIR POLLUTION THIS PIPELINE WILL PRODUCE AND THESE QUESTIONS DESERVE LEGITIMATE ANSWERS. FOR THIS REASON I AM REQUESTING THAT A STUDY BE CONDUCTED TO MEASURE THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF RAW TAR SANDS CRUDE POLLUTION IN COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THE REFINERIES WHERE THE KEYSTONE COKE X.L. PIPELINE WOULD OPERATE. AND IF YOU SHARE MY COMMITMENT TO SAFEGUARDING AMERICANS' HEALTH, I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE MY AMENDMENT AND ALLOW FOR SUCH A STUDY TO BE DONE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISION ON THE PIPELINE'S CONSTRUCTION AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WILL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:40:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM GEORGIA RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    FROM GEORGIA RESERVES HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RISE?

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  • 04:41:01 PM

    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASSURE THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA THAT PART OF THE…

    THANK YOU. AND LET ME ASSURE THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA THAT PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY BASED ON THE E.P.A. MODELING INHERENTLY INCLUDES THE IMPACT OF HEALTH AROUND THE COMMUNITIES. SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT OR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE WILL HAVE THE NECESSARY HEALTH IMPACT DATA TO MAKE THE PROPER RECOMMENDATION TO THE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT WILL THEN BE ABLE TO RELY ON THOSE OR REVIEW THE DATA HIMSELF BEFORE ISSUING IT. BUT TO REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL STUDY ON TOP OF THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, IT APPEARS TO ME TO JUST SIMPLY BE AN ACT OF TRYING TO SLOW IT DOWN OR THE PROCESS DOWN AND LET ME REMIND THE CHAIRMAN THAT WE ARE ON THE THIRD YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. THESE APPLICATIONS ARE RESOLVED WITHIN 18 TO 24 MONTHS. THE OWNER, TRANSCANADIAN PIPELINE, TRANSCANADIAN IS A CANADIAN COMPANY, THEY'VE AGREED TO ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME FORTH FROM ALL OF THE DRAFT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES AND SUPPLEMENTAL. SO I REALLY DO NOT WANT ADDITIONAL STUDIES LAYERED ON ADDITIONAL STUDIES LAYERED ON ADDITIONAL STUDIES TO SLOW THIS DOWN. THIS IS A $13 BILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT BUT WILL EMPLOY AT LEAST 20,000 UNION CONTRACTORS AND 100,000 TO 200,000 EMPLOYEES TO HELP BUILD THE REFINERIES, TO WORK THE REFINERIES IN THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS THE JOBS BILL. THIS IS GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. LET'S GET THIS DECISION DONE, THE DATA'S AVAILABLE, IT CAN BE DONE BY NOVEMBER 1, I URGE THE DEFEAT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE.

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  • 04:43:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:43:38 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS INCORRECT IN TERMS…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS INCORRECT IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAVING CONDUCTED A STUDY OF THE INCREASED AIR POLLUTION THAT WOULD COME AS A RESULT OF THIS PIPELINE'S OPERATION. NOW, THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS SUBMITTED TWO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS ON THE KEYSTONE X.L. KOCH BROTHERS PIPELINE BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS FOUND THAT NEITHER STATEMENT INCLUDED A SATISFACTORY EVALUATION OF THE INCREASED AIR POLLUTION THAT WOULD COME AS A RESULT OF THIS PIPELINE'S OPERATION. AND SO I WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON THAT AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST I WANT TO -- THIS BODY TO KNOW THAT IT'S THE HEALTH OF AMERICANS THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT HERE AS OPPOSED TO MAKING MONEY FOR A OIL COMPANY. AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I'LL YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:44:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:44:58 PM

    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I HOLD UP UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I HOLD UP UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REPORT HERE, AND COOPERATING AGENCIES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REPORT IS THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, E.P.A. THE ACTUAL STUDY WAS DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY USING THE E.P.A.'S STANDARDS AND MODELING. . I THINK THAT MAY BE WHERE THE CONFUSION IS ENTERING HERE. I DIDN'T SAY THE E.P.A. DID THE STUDY. I SAID DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY USING E.P.A.'S MODELING AND STANDARDS DID IT. BUT THE E.P.A. WAS A PARTNER IN THIS AND HAD MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON IT. SO AGAIN WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS A REDUNDANT STUDY BEING DONE AND I URGE THE DEFEAT OF THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    MEMBERS ARE ADVISED NOT TO TRAFFIC THE WELL. BOTH SIDES HAVING YIELDED…

    MEMBERS ARE ADVISED NOT TO TRAFFIC THE WELL. BOTH SIDES HAVING YIELDED BACK, THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 04:46:17 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    SPEAKER, I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:46:46 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 04:47:11 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    GLAD I'M ABLE TO RISE AND SPEAK ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT INVOLVES ONE OF OUR…

    GLAD I'M ABLE TO RISE AND SPEAK ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT INVOLVES ONE OF OUR CLOSEST ALLIES CANADA. AND BECAUSE THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA AND BECAUSE IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL ISSUE, I'M ASSURED THAT IN THE PROCESS, WE WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT OVERSIGHT THAT INCLUDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, THE SECRETARIES OF DEFENSE, COMMERCE, TRANSPORTATION, ENERGY, HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL HAVE TO COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION BEFORE THE CONCLUSION AND THE FINAL DECISION. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE DISCUSS WHAT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OIL COMING FROM A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR IS TO BE REMINDED THAT MANY OF US HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT WE MUST CEASE TO RELY UPON FOREIGN OIL. IN FACT, IN A SENATE HEARING, WHEN EGYPT WAS BEGINNING TO IN ESSENCE EXPLODE, MEMBERS SAID WATCH EGYPT AND WE MUST LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL. OBVIOUSLY, EGYPT IS NOT ONE OF OUR MAJOR SOURCES OF ENERGY BUT THEY WERE BINGE ON TO SEE THE RIPPLE EFFECT IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED THE ARAB SPRING. FOR MANY OF US, WE REALIZE THAT IT IS A LONG, LONG WINTER AS OUR FRIENDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST SEEK PEACE. SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT TO CREATING JOBS, BUT ALSO, IT'S AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT ON RELIEVING OR CEASING THE DEPENDENCE OF THE UNITED STATES ON FOREIGN OIL. LET ME JUST TAKE ONE STATE'S ECONOMY AND REALIZE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT. $2.3 BILLION INVESTMENT IN TEXAS ECONOMY CREATING MORE THAN 50,000 JOBS IN THE HOUSTON AREA, PROVIDING 48 MILLION IN STATE AND LOCAL TAXES, INCREASED THE GROSS STATE PRODUCT BY $1. BILLION. BUT I DON'T CHOOSE TO BE SELFISH IN MY AMENDMENT AND MY AMENDMENT IS A SENSE OF CONGRESS THAT SAYS THAT IT IS THE SENSE OF CONGRESS THAT THE UNITED STATES MUST DECREASE ITS DEPENDENCE ON OIL FROM COUNTRIES WHICH ARE HOSTILE TO THE UNITED STATES. CANADA HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING TRADING PARTNER AND INCREASED ACCESS TO THEIR ENERGY RESOURCES WILL HELP CREATE JOBS IN THE UNITED STATES. AND IF I WAS TO ADD TO THAT, CONTINUE THE STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. IN ADDITION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS INDICATED THAT WE SHOULD INCREASE OR DECREASE OUR RELIANCE ON FOREIGN OIL. IN THIS INSTANCE, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TOWARD THAT. DO I BELIEVE WE SHOULD IN ESSENCE CROSS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL T'S? ABSOLUTELY. I ASK MY COLLEAGUE TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE MY TIME.

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  • 04:50:18 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE NAB RISE -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM FROM NEBRASKA RISE?

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  • 04:50:35 PM

    MR. TERRY

    HER AMENDMENT REFLECTS THE THOUGHTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WE AGREE WITH…

    HER AMENDMENT REFLECTS THE THOUGHTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WE AGREE WITH IT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:50:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS IS…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:50:51 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    TWO MINUTES.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    GET ALONG? I MENTIONED THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT. I…

    GET ALONG? I MENTIONED THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT. I HAVE LISTENED TO CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY, SECURITY AND HEALTH. I FRANKLY BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT ALL. WE CAN INCREASE JOBS HERE, UP TO 300,000 AND WE CAN PAY ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES OF THE ENVIRONMENT, SAFETY AND SECURITY. I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR TRANS-CANADA TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF SPILLS, IMPORTANT FOR THERE TO BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROTECTING AGAINST TOXIC CHEMICALS, IMPORTANT TO DISARM FARMERS, WHEN I SAY THAT, DISARM THEM ABOUT SPILLS. I KNOW ABOUT PIPELINES. THERE ARE STATE LAWS THAT REGULATE THE BUILDING OF PIPELINES. PUTTING FORWARD MORE SAFETY PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS, BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF ALL AMERICANS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A BOTTOM LINE HERE. THE IMPORTANCE OF LESSENING OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL AND AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT JOBS ARE CREATED HERE IN AMERICA. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEPTEMBER TO CONGRESS TO DO, TO CREATE THESE JOBS AND STAND ALONGSIDE OUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHILE THEY WORK AND PRODUCE AN ECONOMY THAT IS KNOWN TO AMERICA, GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:52:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH RISE?

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  • 04:53:07 PM

    MR. KUCINICH

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH OF OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL…

    GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 04:53:29 PM

    MR. KUCINICH

    AMERICANS ARE TURNING TO THEIR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR RELIEF FROM HIGH GAS…

    AMERICANS ARE TURNING TO THEIR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR RELIEF FROM HIGH GAS PRICES. APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL LEAD TO THE OPPOSITE RESULT AND WILL ACTUALLY RAISE GAS PRICES PRINCIPALLY IN THE MIDWEST. IN FACT, SOME OF THE STATES THAT WILL SUFFER THE WORST GAS PRICE INCREASES ARE THE SAME ONES THAT WILL HAVE TO BEAR THE ENVIRONMENTAL BURDEN OF THIS PIPELINE. IT'S NOT JUST MY CONCLUSION, BUT THE CONCLUSION OF TRANS-CANADA. THIS IS THE CONCLUSION OF INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSULTANT, THE COMPANY THAT TRANS-CANADA HIRED TO EVALUATE ITS KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE AND THIS IS THE CONCLUSION OF OIL MARKET ECONOMIST. THIS IS WHY THEY WANT TO BUILD THIS PIPELINE. MY AMENDMENT SIMPLY REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY TO ANALYZE THE EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED PIPELINE ON INCREASED GAS PRICES FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS. AND TO DETERMINE IF THIS PIPELINE IS JUST AN EFFORT TO MANIPULATE THE MARKET FOR CRUDE OIL IN THE UNITED STATES. THE PROPOSED PIPELINE WOULD CARRY UP TO 900,000 BARRELS PER DAY OF TAR SANDS OIL FROM ALBERTA, CANADA, OVER 2,000 MILES TO GAS REFINERIES ON THE GULF COAST. PROPONENTS CLAIM IT WOULD BRING DOWN OIL PRICES. TRANS-CANADA'S PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT FOR THE PIPELINE INCLUDED DOCUMENTS AND TESTIMONY WHICH SAID CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES COULD USE THE PIPELINE TO INCREASE AMERICA'S FUEL BILL BY UP TO $4 BILLION PER YEAR BY LIMITING THE SUPPLY OF CANADIAN CRUDE TO MIDWEST REFINERIES AND REROUTING IT TO GULF COAST REFINERIES. THIS BENEFIT TO CANADIAN OIL COMPANIES WAS USED BY TRANS-CANADA TO ARGUE THAT APPROVAL OF THE PIPELINE WAS IN CANADA'S INTEREST. BUT THIS INFORMATION WAS CONVENIENTLY HIDDEN WHEN TRANS-CANADA APPLIED FOR THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL PERMIT FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT. THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM A REPORT BY INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSULTANT, THE COMPANY THAT TRANS-CANADA HIRED TO EVALUATE ITS KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. SECTION 343 OF THEIR REPORT, THEY CONCLUDED THERE WAS AN OVERSUPPLY OF CRUDE OIL IN THE MIDWEST THAT RESULTED IN LOWER PRICES FOR CANADIAN CRUDE OIL AND THAT THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WOULD REMOVE THIS OVERSUPPLY AND RAISE CRUDE OIL PRICES IN THE MARKET. AND SECTION 345 OF THEIR REPORT, THEY RECITE THAT, QUOTE, KEYSTONE HAS REVIEWED THE ASSESSMENT AND AGREES WITH ITS CONCLUSIONS. THROUGH MANIPULATION OF U.S. OIL MARKETS, THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL INCREASE U.S. GAS PRICES BY 10 CENTS TO 20 CENTS PER GALLON ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ACCORDING TO AN OIL MARKET ECONOMIST. THE GREATEST PRICE INCREASE, TWICE AS MUCH BY ONE ESTIMATE, WILL OCCUR IN 15 STATES, INCLUDING MY STATE OF OHIO, ILLINOIS, INDIANA, IOWA, KANSAS, KENTUCKY, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NORTH DAKOTA, SOUTH DAKOTA, TENNESSEE AND WISCONSIN. IT ESTIMATED TO INCREASE PRICES $6.55 PER BARREL OF CRUDE OIL IN THE MIDWEST AND $3 PER BARREL ACROSS THE U.S. THIS WILL GOUGE CONSUMERS FORCING THEM TO HAND OVER $3.9 BILLION TO FOREIGN OIL COMPANIES EVERY YEAR. THIS BOOM MAY BENEFIT CANADIAN OIL SHARE HOLDERS. IT WILL ONLY FURTHER DEVASTATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUR ECONOMY AND FARMERS WHO ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY AND CAN'T AFFORD A GAS PRICE HIKE. AMERICANS WANT LOW GAS PRICES. PERMITTING THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE WILL INCREASE PRICES AT THE PUMP AND MAKING AMERICANS PAY MORE AND MORE FOR EVERY COMMODITY THEY PURCHASE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PROTECT AMERICANS FROM BEING FURTHER GOUGED BY FOREIGN OIL COMPANIES AND TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:58:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS A POISON PILL. ESPECIALLY THE WAY THIS…

    OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS A POISON PILL. ESPECIALLY THE WAY THIS AMENDMENT IS WORDED. NOW, THE REALITY HERE IS WHEN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PIPELINE IS COMPLETED, TWO AMERICAN U.S. REFINERIES THAT ARE EXPANDING TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THIS ADDITIONAL CRUDE FROM CANADA, WE WILL HAVE A RELIABLE SUPPLY OF AT LEAST 700,000 BARRELS PER DAY. NOT RELYING ON THE MIDDLE EAST, AS THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS JUST SPOKE ABOUT WHEREIN THE ARAB SPRING, PROVIDED GREAT UNCERTAINTY OF WHICH THEN MAYBE SPECULATORS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF. BUT THE REALITY HERE FOR THE U.S. MARKETS IS THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT UNCERTAINTY IF WE CONTINUE TO TAKE STEPS LIKE THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. ONCE AGAIN, A RELIABLE, RELIABLE RESOURCE OF 700,000 TO 1.3 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY WILL ONLY DEFLATE PRICES AT THE PUMP. THAT'S WHAT THE AMERICAN CITIZENS WANT. THEY WANT STABILITY AND REDUCED PRICES AT THE PUMP. I9 -- IT IS A BOGUS ARGUMENT TO SAY THAT THIS PIPELINE IS GOING TO LEAD TO AN INCREASE AT THE PUMPS. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. . NOW WHAT I BELIEVE IS A STRAINED CONCLUSION OF A COMMENT MADE BY A TRANSCANADIAN EMPLOYEE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY CHARGE MORE. THE REALITY IS, HEAVY CRUDE IS HEAVILY DISCOUNTED WHEN COMPARED TO A SWEET OR LIGHTER CRUDE THAT IS EASIER AND LESS COSTLY TO REFINE. SO THERE IS A DISCOUNT IN THERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE A PIPELINE THAT THEN EASILY TRANSPORTS AND ELIMINATES A LOT OF COST OF TRANSPORTING AND YOU HAVE RELIABILITY THAT DOES SLIGHTLY INCREASE THE VALUE TO THOSE BUYERS OF THAT CRUDE IN TEXAS, LOUISIANA, OKLAHOMA, AND OTHER PARTS OF THE MIDWEST. SO THE REALITY IS THIS HEAVY CRUDE STILL WILL NOT RISE TO THE PRICE OF A SWEET CRUDE. THE REALITY IS THE RELIABILITY OF THIS OIL COMING TO U.S. REFWINERIES WILL LOWER THE PRICE AT THE PUMPS AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. BESIDES ALL OF THE JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED FROM THIS PIPELINE, 20,000 DIRECT JOBS CREATED FROM THIS PIPELINE. ENERGY SECURITY. AN ADDITIONAL 100,000 TO 200,000 JOBS CREATED ON TOP OF THE CONSTRUCTION. SO WE NEED TO MOVE. WE NEED THE DECISION MADE, THE DATA IS HERE, THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION BY NOVEMBER 1, AND I URGE THE DEFEAT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND RESERVE.

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  • 05:02:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO HAS 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    THE GENTLEMAN HAS 30 SECONDS.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    ALL CONCLUDE THAT INCREASES IN THE PRICE OF GUEST WILL HIT THE MIDWEST AS…

    ALL CONCLUDE THAT INCREASES IN THE PRICE OF GUEST WILL HIT THE MIDWEST AS A RESULT OF THIS PIPELINE. THESE AREN'T JUST EMPLOYEES OF TRANSCANADA. THESE ARE LEGAL EXPERTS WHO PUT THIS IN AN APPLICATION. IT'S NOT A BOGUS ARGUMENT. IF THAT'S A BOGUS ARGUMENT, THEN THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONVEYED TO THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA BECAUSE TRANSCANADA'S APPLICATION TO THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA SAID THEY COULD INCREASE AMERICA'S FUEL BILL BY LIMITING THE SUPPLY OF CANADIAN CRUDE TO MIDWEST REFINERIES AND REROUTING IT TO GULF COAST REFINERIES. STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN CONSUMER.

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  • 05:03:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEBRASKA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING TO CLOSE.

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    MR. TERRY

    WORKERS, AMERICAN CONSUMERS, WILL BE BETTER OFF, THEY WILL REAP THE…

    WORKERS, AMERICAN CONSUMERS, WILL BE BETTER OFF, THEY WILL REAP THE ADVANTAGES OF THE RELIABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY, ELIMINATING OR AT LEAST GREATLY REDUCING THE UNCERTAINTIES THAT CAUSE THE GAS SPIKES PRICES AT THE PUMP. SO LET'S DEFEAT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:03:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 05:03:48 PM

    MR. KUCINICH

    ON THAT I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR.…

    PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, WILL BE POSTPONED. PUSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER, AMENDMENT WURM ONE BY MR. WELCH OF VERMONT, EARMENT NUMBER TWO BY MR. RUSH, AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE BY MS. ESHOO, AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE BY MR. COHEN, AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX BY MR. RUSH, AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT BY MS. HANABUSA OF HAWAII, AND AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 BY MR. KUCINICH OF OHIO. EXCUSE ME, THAT LAST AMENDMENT, IS AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO TWO MINUTES THE MINIMUM TIME FOR ANY ELECTRONIC VOTE AFTER THE FIRST VOTE IN THIS SERIES. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT MR. WELCH ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:05:13 PM

    THE CLERK

    ONE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, OFFERED BY MR. WELCH OF VERMONT.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY A RECORDED…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. 5 SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RUZZEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE, FOLLOWED BY A SERIES OF TWO-MINUTE VOTES. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:30:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 160 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO -- THE NOES ARE

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    THE CHAIR

    THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER, PLEASE. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS…

    THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER, PLEASE. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS WILL PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS OFF THE FLOOR AND TAKE THEIR SEATS. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WOULD ASK ALL PRESENT TO RISE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THE CHAIR ASKS THAT THE HOUSE NOW OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN REMEMBRANCE OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN THE SERVICE OF OUR NATION IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND THEIR FAMILIES AND OF ALL WHO SERVE IN OUR ARMED FORCES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

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  • 05:31:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION, TWO-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE…

    OBJECTION, TWO-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RAILROADED -- VORD -- RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED, ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:32:24 PM

    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, OFFERED BY MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE, FOLLOWED BY A SERIES OF ADDITIONAL TWO-MINUTE VOTES. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:37:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 164, THE NAYS ARE 261, ONE MEMBER VOTING…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 164, THE NAYS ARE 261, ONE MEMBER VOTING PRESENT, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. ESHOO, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:37:50 PM

    THE CLERK

    3 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, OFFERED BY MS. ESHOO OF CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE…

    RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:41:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE YEAS ARE 163, THE NAYS ARE 264, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE…

    THE YEAS ARE 163, THE NAYS ARE 264, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RORED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. CHE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:42:11 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. COHEN OF TENNESSEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:45:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 155, THE NAYS ARE 272. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 155, THE NAYS ARE 272. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:46:07 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. MURPHY…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. MURPHY OF CONNECTICUT.

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  • 05:46:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:49:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 153. THE NAYS ARE 275. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 153. THE NAYS ARE 275. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. RUSH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:50:06 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. RUSH OF ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:54:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 161. THE NAYS ARE 265. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 161. THE NAYS ARE 265. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:54:34 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MS. HANABUSA OF HAWAII.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 05:57:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 168. THE NAYS ARE 260. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 168. THE NAYS ARE 260. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:58:15 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. JOHNSON…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 OFFERED BY MR. JOHNSON OF GEORGIA.

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  • 05:58:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:02:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 163, THE NAYS ARE 260.

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    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 163, THE NAYS ARE 263, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED…

    THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 163, THE NAYS ARE 263, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:03:49 PM

    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-181, OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH OF OHIO.

  • 06:03:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY A RECORDED VOTE…

    VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:06:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 164, THE NAYS ARE 261, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 164, THE NAYS ARE 261, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY UNDER THE RULE, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 06:07:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MR. SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    MR. SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 1938 PURSUANT TO HAAS RESOLUTION 370 .

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  • 06:07:32 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION BILL H.R. 12938 AND PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 370 REPORTS THE BILL BACK TO THE HOUSE WITH AN AMENDMENT ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. UNDER THE RULE, THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. IS A SEPARATE VOTE DEMANDED ON ANY AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT REPORTED FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE? IF NOT, THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT ON THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE QUESTION IS ON THE ENGROSSMENT AND THIRD READING OF THE BILL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THIRD READING.

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  • 06:08:20 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEDITE THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE…

    TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT TO EXPEDITE THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE KEYSTONE XL OIL PIPELINE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 06:08:38 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS PLEASE…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. MEMBERS PLEASE CLEAR THE WELL. MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OFF THE FLOOR. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 06:09:07 PM

    >>

    I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMIT AT THE DESK.

  • 06:09:12 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    IS THE GENTLEWOMAN OPPOSED TO THE BILL?

  • 06:09:16 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

  • 06:09:20 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN QUALIFIES, THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE BILL.

  • 06:09:30 PM

    THE CLERK

    REPORT THE BILL BACK TO THE HOUSE FORTHWITH WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS,…

    REPORT THE BILL BACK TO THE HOUSE FORTHWITH WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS, INSERT THE FOLLOWING NEW PARAGRAPH, 18 TRANSCANADA CORPORATION HAS THREATENED TO CONDEMN THE LAND OF AMERICA FARMERS, RANCHERS AND HOMEOWNERS ALONG THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE ROUTE AND FARMERS, RANCHERS AND HOMEOWNERS IN MONTANA, NEBRASKA, SOUTH DAKOTA, AND TEXAS ARE AT RISK OF HAVING THEIR PROPERTY SEIZED BY A FOREIGN CORPORATION. 19, IN ITS PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, TRANSCANADA CORPORATION, THE OWNER AND ORNTE WAR OF THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE PROJECTED THAT THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE WILL INCREASE OIL PRICES IN PAD 2 WHICH INCLUDES THE STATES OF ILLINOIS, INDIANA, IOWA, KANSAS, KENTUCKY, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NORTH DAKOTA, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, SOUTH DAKOTA, TENNESSEE, AND WISCONSIN, INCREASING ANNUAL REVENUE TO CANADIAN OIL PRODUCERS BY AN ESTIMATED $2 BILLION TO $3,900,000,000 IN 2019. PAGE SEVEN LINE 14 AND 20, REDESIGNATE SUBSECTION C AND D AS SUBSECTIONS D AND E RESPECTIVELY. PAGE 34, INSERT THE FOLLOWING THE SUBSECTION, C, PROTECTING CITIZENS FROM UNFAIR GAS PRICES. THE PRESIDENT SHALL ENSURE THAT THE AGREEMENT SHALL INCLUDE FEASIBLE STEPS TO PRECLUDE RISING OF GAS PRICES, AND PROHIBITIONS ON SEEDSING OF LAND OF AMERICAN FARMERS RANCHERS AND HOMEOWNERS.

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  • 06:11:26 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER. MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE…

    THE HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER. MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR. THE GENTLELADY FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 06:11:44 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT IN RESPONSE TO A CONCERN…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT IN RESPONSE TO A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE ALL HEARD AND WHICH WAS RECENTLY RAISED IN A LETTER THAT I RECEIVED FROM A CONSTITUENT IN CUYAHOGA FALLS, OHIO. HE WANTED TO THOUGH HOW CONGRESS CAN HELP WITH RISING GAS PRICES, PRICES THAT ARE FORCING HIM TO SPEND LESS ON TAKING CARE OF HIS FAMILY AND CAUSING UNCERTAINTY AND UNEASINESS. IT'S WITH MY CONSTITUENT IN MIND THAT I OFFER THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. MR. SPEAKER, TODAY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN TOGETHER TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT AND TO DO SOMETHING THAT MY CONSTITUENT AND FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES LIKE HIS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THAT EXIST IN EACH AND EVERY DISTRICT.

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  • 06:12:35 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD

  • 06:12:48 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:14:43 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:14:54 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:18:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:18:17 PM

    MR. TERRY

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:18:21 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:18:23 PM

    MR. TERRY

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:21:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:21:16 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:21:19 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:37:47 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:38:19 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:44:32 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:44:54 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:45:05 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:45:31 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 06:46:17 PM

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    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

  • 06:46:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    BILL TO PROVIDE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF PROGRAMS UNDER…

    BILL TO PROVIDE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF PROGRAMS UNDER THE SMALL BUSINESS ACT AND THE SMALL BUSINESS ACT -- BUSINESS INVESTMENT ACT OF 1958 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 06:46:53 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. HANNA, AND THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. HANNA, AND THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK, MS. VELAZQUEZ, EACH WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 06:47:08 PM

    MR. HANNA

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS SHALL HAVE FIVE CONSECUTIVE DAYS TO…

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS SHALL HAVE FIVE CONSECUTIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS REMARKS ON THE BILL UNDER CONSIDERATION.

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  • 06:47:22 PM

    MR. HANNA

    MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 06:47:28 PM

    MR. HANNA

    THERE ARE FEW COMPONENTS TO THE LEGISLATION WE HAVE BEFORE US. FIRST, THE…

    THERE ARE FEW COMPONENTS TO THE LEGISLATION WE HAVE BEFORE US. FIRST, THE BILL PROVIDES FOR A STRAIGHTFORWARD EXTENSION OF CERTAIN S.B.A. PROGRAMS THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2011. THIS IS A NECESSARY MEASURE SINCE THE CURRENT EXTENSION WHICH THE HOUSE PASSED IN MAY, EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. AS WE CONTINUE TO DO WORK WITH OUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES AND OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE OTHER BODY TOWARDS A FULL AND COMPLETE RE-AUTHORIZATION OF THE S.B.A. AND ITS PROGRAMS, THIS EXTENSION WILL ENSURE THESE PROGRAMS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO ENTREPRENEURS WHO NEED TO CREATE JOBS. SECONDLY, THE BILL BEFORE US TERMINATES SEVERAL OUTDATED PROGRAMS THAT ARE EITHER USED VERY INFREQUENTLY OR NOT AT ALL. IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT ONCE A PROGRAM IS INITIATED, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ELIMINATE. TODAY, WE WILL PROVE THAT NOTION WRONG. THE PROGRAM ELIMINATIONS CONTAINED IN THIS BILL REPRESENT A GOOD FIRST STEP FOR CLEANING UP THIS S.B.A.'S PROGRAM PORTFOLIO, THEREBY REFOCUSING THE AGENCY'S MISSION ON FACILITATING SMALL BUSINESS LENDING, OFFERING ENTREPRENEURIAL ADVICE TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND ENSURING THEY RECEIVE THEIR FAIR SHARE OF FEDERAL CONTRACTS. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS SELECTED FOR TERMINATION IS A CENTRAL EUROPEAN ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THIS INITIATIVE HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED SINCE 1995 AND ONE OF THE COUNTRIES INVOLVED, CHECK SLOFEVACK YEAH NO LONGER EXISTS. THE GUARANTEED BOND PROGRAM TO PROVIDE S.B.A.-BACKED BONDS FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO RETROFIT FACTORIES HAS NOT OFFERED A SINGLE BOND GUARANTEE SINCE THE EARLY 1980'S. HAVING THESE PROGRAMS ON THE BOOKS DETRACTS MANPOWER AND RESOURCES FROM THE S.B.A.'S CORE PROGRAMS AND TIME TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY. NOT ONLY DOES THIS BILL CLEAN UP THE S.B.A., BUT ALSO SAVES MONEY. THE BILL ELIMINATES TWO DRUG-FREE WORKPLACE PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS WERE ALLOCATED $2 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2011 WHEN NOT A HUGE SUM OF MONEY WHEN CONSIDERING THE OVERALL BUDGET. EVERY PENNY SAVED IS A PENNY WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW. FOR ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS, THE LEGISLATION PROHIBITS THE S.B.A. FROM USING ANY OF ITS DISCRETIONARY FUNDING ON ITS EMERGING LEADERS PROGRAM. WHILE THE PROGRAM STARTED IN FISCAL YEAR 2009 WITHOUT ANY CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL OR AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS, THE S.B.A. HAS REQUESTED $3 MILLION FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR 2012. THE PROGRAM IS DUPLICATIVE OF EXISTING ENTREPRENEURIAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND DOES NOT HAVE A GOOD MATRIX FOR EVALUATING THE PROGRAM'S SUCCESS. THE S.B.A. OUGHT TO BE FOCUSING ON WELL EVALUATED, CONGRESSESALLY-AUTHORIZED PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN FULLY VENTED AND SUPPORTED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE GENTLELADY FROM NEW YORK FOR HER EFFORTS TO CRAFT THIS LEGISLATION. IT IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO WORK IN A TRULY BIPARTISAN MANNER ON IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING OUR NATION AND I APPRECIATE HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. WITH THAT, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 2608 AS AMENDED. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:51:24 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 06:51:29 PM

    MS. VELAZQUEZ

    I'M PREPARED TO CLOSE.

  • 06:54:48 PM

    MR. HANNA

    TO CLOSE.

  • 06:54:52 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

  • 06:54:56 PM

    MR. HANNA

    THAT SMALL BUSINESS CAN AND WILL LEAD OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. IT'S TIME…

    THAT SMALL BUSINESS CAN AND WILL LEAD OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. IT'S TIME THAT THOSE OF US IN CONGRESS PROVIDE THEM WITH THE CERTAINTY THEY NEED TO CREATE JOBS AND GROW OUR ECONOMY. THE LEGISLATION WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY GIVES SMALL FIRMS THE COMPETENCE TO KNOW THAT THE S.B.A. PROGRAMS THEY RELY ON WILL BE THERE FOR THEM WHEN THEY NEED THEM. IT ALSO SHOWS THEM THAT THIS HOUSE IS SERIOUS ABOUT CUTTING SPENDING, LOWERING DEBT AND RESTORING CONFIDENCE TO OUR ENTREPRENEURS. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBER AND ALL OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE TO ENACT POLICIES THAT BENEFIT AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS GOOD BILL. AND WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:55:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS, WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 2608 AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, 2/3 BEING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED AND THE BILL IS PASSED. AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 06:56:25 PM

    >>

    RULES AND PASS THE BILL H.R. 2056.

  • 06:56:32 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO INSTRUCT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE…

    TO INSTRUCT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION TO STUDY THE IMPACT OF SNURMED DEPOSIT TOWER INSTITUTION FAILURES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 06:56:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. WESTMORELAND AND THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. WESTMORELAND AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM GAY, MR. SCOTT, WILL -- FROM GEORGIA, MR. SCOTT, WILL EACH CONTROL 20 MINUTES.

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  • 06:57:09 PM

    MR. WESTMORELAND

    SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 06:57:14 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 06:57:16 PM

    MR. WESTMORELAND

    MR. SPEAKER, THE BILL BEFORE THE HOUSE TODAY IS ONE THAT WILL PROVIDE MUCH…

    MR. SPEAKER, THE BILL BEFORE THE HOUSE TODAY IS ONE THAT WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED TRANSPARENCY TO THE FDIC PROCESS OF EXAMINING AND RESOLVING BANKS. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, RANKING MEMBER AND FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR H.R. 20056 AND THANK MY LEAD CO-SPONSOR, MY FRIEND, REPRESENTATIVE SCOTT, FOR HIS TIRELESS SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE. AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, THERE IS NO GREATER THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITIES THAN BANK FAILURES, ESPECIALLY IN MY STATE OF GEORGIA. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO HIGHLIGHT BANK FAILURES BY THE NUMBERS IN MY STATE OF GEORGIA. 319 IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FAILURES IN THE U.S. SINCE 2008. 67 OF THOSE, THAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GEORGIA BANK FAILURES SINCE 2008. 16, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF BANKS IN GEORGIA THAT HAVE FAILED IN 2011. 11 BANKS HAVE FAILED IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. AND MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU TO LOOK AT THIS CHART. AND YOU CAN SEE BY THIS CHART THAT THESE COMMUNITIES, THESE 10 STATES HAVE HAD THE LARGEST CLOSING NUMBER. THEIR EMPLOYMENT RATE IS SOME OF THE HIGHEST. THE DEFICIENCY RATES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES, IF YOU LOOK AT ARIZONA, 30% OF THEIR BANKS HAVE CLOSED. NEVADA, 41% OF THEIR BANKS HAVE CLOSED. AND IN MY STATE OF GEORGIA, 26% HAVE CLOSED. SADLY, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES IN MY DISTRICT THAT NO LONGER ARE EVEN SERVED BY A COMMUNITY BANK. AND I HAVE OFTEN REFERENCED THESE AS THE 10 OVER 10 AND THESE ARE THE 10 STATES THAT HAVE HAD MORE THAN 10 BANK FAILURES SINCE 2008. AS YOU CAN SEE THESE UNLUCKY STATES ARE GEORGIA, FLORIDA, ILLINOIS, CALIFORNIA, MINNESOTA, WASHINGTON, MICHIGAN, NEVADA, MISSOURI AND ARIZONA. IN FACT, SIX OF THESE 10 STATES HAVE HAD MORE THAN 10% OF THEIR BANKS FAIL IN THE PAST THREE YEARS. THESE STATES ALSO SHARE OTHER THINGS IN COMMON. AS I MENTIONED, THEY HAVE A HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND SERIOUS DELINQUENCY RATES AS WELL AS HIGH NUMBER OF BANK FAILURES. I HOPE NO MORE STATES ARE ADDED TO THIS LIST. COLORADO HAD NINE FAILURES, INCLUDING ONE ON FRIDAY. KANSAS AND OREGON HAVE HAD SEVEN FAILS. WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE FDIC IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE BANK. IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND RESOURCES TO GO THROUGH IT. HOWEVER, TOO MUCH INFORMATION WITHOUT PROPER CONTACTS CAN BE DETRIMENTAL. H.R. 2056 IS DESIGNED TO CUT THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION TO ANALYZE THE UNDERLYING FUNDAMENTALS THAT CONTINUE TO CAUSE BANK FAILURES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. THE BILL DIRECTS THE FDIC INSPECTOR GENERAL, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TREASURY AND FEDERAL RESERVE I.G., TO STUDY FDIC POLICIES AND PRACTICES WITH REGARD TO AGREEMENTS, THE FAIR APPLICATION OF REGULATORY POLITICS STANDARDS, APPRAISEALS, PROCEDURES FOR LOAN MODIFICATION AND FDIC'S HANDLING OF CONSENT ORDERS IN CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS. . THE FDIC INSPECTOR GENERAL IS UNTABLE FULLY EXPLORE SUCH AS THE CAUSE OF THE HIGH NUMBER OF BANK FAILURES, THE IMPACT OF FAIR VALUE ACCOUNTING ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACT OF FAILURE ON THE COMMUNITY, THE OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS OF AGREEMENTS FOR RESOLVING BANKS. I HAVE WELCOMED THE INPUT FROM THE FDIC I.G. AS WELL AS FINANCES IF THE FDIC, THE OFFICE OF THE CONTROLLER GENERAL, THE INDEPENDENT BANKERS' ASSOCIATION AND THE WITNESSES AT THE HEARING THREE WEEKS AGO. OVERWHELMINGLY, THESE WITNESSES SUPPORTED 2056. LIKEWISE, THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE PASSED H.R. 2056 OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH A VOICE VOTE. MR. SPEAKER, IT IS CLEAR THAT CONGRESS NEEDS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UNDERLYING CAUSES OF THESE BANK FAILURES AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. AS MY…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM GEORGIA POINTED OUT, HE APTLY DESCRIBED THE DIRE SITUATION FACING OUR STATE OF GEORGIA.

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  • 07:02:31 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    AS I STAND HERE, GEORGIA, SINCE 2008 FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY STARTED IN THIS…

    AS I STAND HERE, GEORGIA, SINCE 2008 FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY STARTED IN THIS COUNTRY, WE'VE NOW LOST TO BANK FAILURE 67 BANKS THAT HAVE FAILED, WHICH MAKES US THE LEADER IN THE NATION IN THIS AREA IN OUR STATE. WE HAVE SOME VERY CAPABLE BUSINESS PEOPLE IN GEORGIA AND IN ATLANTA. VERY STERLING LEADERS OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES INDUSTRY WORLDWIDE. BASED OUT OF ATLANTA. WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH THE RECOVERY. BUT MR. SPEAKER, THERE IS NOTHING, THERE'S NO MORE IMPORTANT SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY THAN OUR BANKING SYSTEM. IT IS INDEED THE HEART OF OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT PUMPS OUT THE CREDIT, THAT PUMPS OUT THE CAPITAL THAT MAKES OUR ECONOMY GO AROUND. SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY DEAL WITH AN AREA AND WITH INFORMATION AND WITH AN EFFECTIVE STUDY SO THAT WE CAN GRASP THE FULL MEANING OF WHAT CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN, WHAT WERE THE CHARACTERISTICS IN ATLANTA OR IN GEORGIA THAT CAUSED THIS DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF BANK FAILURES AND INDEED WE CAN LEARN SO MUCH SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT THIS TYPE OF COLLAPSE IN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM FROM HAPPENING AGAIN AND MAKE A VERY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION. SO WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS IMPORTANT BILL, HOUSE RESOLUTION 2056, THAT WE FEEL WILL MAKE A VERY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO PREVENTING THESE KINDS OF COLLAPSES FROM HAPPENING AGAIN TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM. THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS, ONE, TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT TO WHICH CERTAIN FDIC PRACTICES PRECIPITATED THE BANK FAILURES. WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE FDIC WAS DOING THAT REGULATORS WERE DOING, THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE UPON. TWO, WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER VARIOUS FDIC POLICIES AND PRACTICES FOR RESOLVING FAILED BANKS ARE APPROPRIATE. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT APPROPRIATE, WE CAN FIX THAT. AND THREE, WE NEED TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE FDIC EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES IN THE FIELD, THE INVESTIGATORS, THE BANK EXAMINERS, DID THEY TAKE ACTIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH FDIC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE DEVELOPED HERE IN WASHINGTON? IN OTHER WORDS, MR. SPEAKER, WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME LOOK AT THIS PECULIAR SITUATION OF THESE RASH OF BANK FAILURES IN ONE BASIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THIS COUNTRY TO SEE WHAT REALLY WENT WRONG AND IF THERE WERE THINGS WE WERE DOING HERE IN WASHINGTON THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT. AND FINALLY, WE NEED TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE FDIC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS ALL BANKS. THIS INFORMATION WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT. THE BILL REQUIRES THAT THE FDIC INSPECTOR GENERAL, WITHIN ONE YEAR OF ENACTMENT OF THIS BILL, WILL CONDUCT A STUDY ON THE IMPACT OF THE FAILURE OF BANKS AND REPORT THE RESULTS AND ANY ASSOCIATED RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO CONGRESS. THIS STUDY WOULD ADDRESS, ONE, THE EFFECT OF THE FDIC USE OF LOSS SHARING AGREEMENT ON RELEVANT STAKE HOLDERS, INCLUDING BANKS THAT SURVIVE AND BORROWERS OF THE FAILED I.D.I. AND TWO, THE SIGNIFICANT -- SIGNIFICANCE THAT PAPER LOSSES, INCLUDING THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY TRIGGER I.D.I. RECEIVERSHIPS AND THE IMPACT THEY HAVE ON RAISING MORE CAPITAL, AND THREE THE SUCCESS OF SEALED EXAMINERS. -- EXAMINERS IN IMPLEMENTING THE FDIC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE WORKOUTS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE FIND OUT IN OUR STATE OF GEORGIA, ONE OF THE COMMON CHARACTERISTICS THAT SORT OF HELD THESE BANKS SEPARATE WAS THE OVERLEVERAGE, WE SHALL SAY, OF THE PORTFOLIOS IN REAL ESTATE AND THE HOUSING BUBBLE BURST ON US. AND FOUR, THE APPLICATION AND IMPACT OF CONSENT ORDERS AND CEASE AN DESIST ORDERS, INCLUDING WHETHER SUCH ORDERS ARE USED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS ALL TYPES OF BANKS. AND ALSO THE APPLICATION AND IMPACT OF FDIC POLICIES, PARTICULARLY AS THEY RELATE TO A BANK'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT PRIVATE CAPITAL. AND SIXTH, FDIC'S HANDLING OF POTENTIAL INVESTMENTS BY PRIVATE EQUITY COMPANIES IN BANKS. NOW, WE HAD, IN H.R. 2056 AS INTRODUCED, WE RECEIVED GREAT BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND RECEPTION AT A HEARING THAT WE RECENTLY HAD THAT MY COLLEAGUE, MR. WESTMORELAND, MENTIONED, AND THE FDIC AND THE O.C.C. ARE WORKING WITH US ON THIS BILL. AND THE O.C.C. HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE FDIC'S INSPECTOR GENERAL SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE O.C.C. INSPECTORS GENERALS WITH RESPECT TO STUDY TOPICS THAT PERTAIN TO BANKS THAT THE O.C.C., WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF COMPTROLLER GENERAL, DIRECTLY SUPERVISES AND OF COURSE THAT SAME LOGIC WOULD ARGUE FOR CONSULTATION WITH THE FED. SO SUBSEQUENTLY, AN AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED BY VOICE VOTE IN THE FULL COMMITTEE AND THE MARKUP, REQUIRING THAT THE FDIC INSPECTOR GENERAL CONSULT WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERALS OF THE TREASURY IN WHICH THE FDIC WAS HOUSED. THIS WAS PASSED BY VOICE VOTE WITH BIPARTISAN SPORT. IT ADDED NEW STUDY FACTORS INCLUDING APPRAISALS AND CAPITAL, REQUIRED THE INSPECTORS GENERALS TO COORDINATE WITH THE TREASURY AND THE FED INSPECTOR GENERALS AND FOUR, IT ADDED A NEW SEPARATE G.A.O. STUDY ON BANK FAILURES TO THE REPORT DUE ONE YEAR AFTER ENACTMENT. AND I MIGHT ADD THAT BOTH THE FDIC AND -- AS WELL AS THE O.C.C. ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MEASURE. IN CONCLUSION, MR. SPEAKER, THIS BILL IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, NOT ONLY IN GEORGIA BUT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, WHERE WE'VE HAD THIS RASH OF BANK FAILURES. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LEARN AND TO KNOW ABOUT THE CAUSES OF THE BANK FAILURES AND THE STATES THAT HAVE BEEN HARDEST -- IN THE STATES THAT HAVE BEEN HARDEST HIT, ESPECIALLY THE ISSUE OF APPLICATION AND EFFECT OF CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS PARTICULARLY WHERE THE ORDERS HAVE BEEN ENFORCED UNIFORMLY AND FAIRLY ACROSS ALL BANKS. THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN FROM OUR BANKING COMMITTEE IN -- COMMUNITY IN GEORGIA. WHILE I KNOW THIS BILL ALONE WON'T SOLVE THE BANKING CRISIS, I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL PROVIDE CONGRESS AND REGULATORS WITH VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT MAY PREVENT FAILURES IN THE FUTURE AND PROVIDE US WITH WAYS AT THE FDIC THAT THE O.C.C. AND FED, OUR BANKING REGULATORS AND EXAMINERS CAN HELP OUR BANKS AVOID BANK FAILURES. IF GOING TO CLIMB OUT OF THIS TERRIBLE ECONOMIC MALAISE WE'RE IN AND SPARK GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IT IS THE BANK THAT MUST BE STABLE. S THE BANKS THAT MUST BE WELL CAPITALIZED AND ABLE TO LEND TO CONSUMERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. IN PARTICULAR, OUR SMALL AND COMMUNITY BANKS ARE THE ONES THAT WILL LEAD THE WAY TO OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH OUR FEDERAL REGULATORS AND EXAMINERS TO REMAIN VIABLE. THIS BILL IS A SMALL STEP, BUT IT IS A BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN THAT RESPECT AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT. WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:11:16 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. WESTMORELAND

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. WESTMORELAND

    OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS WILL SHED LIGHT ON OUR BANK FAILURES AND WHY SO MANY…

    OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS WILL SHED LIGHT ON OUR BANK FAILURES AND WHY SO MANY BUSINESS PEOPLE HAVE COME TO ALL OF US IN THIS BODY TO FIND OUT WHY THEY CANNOT GET LOANS TO PROMOTE JOB GROWTH, TO HELP EXPAND THEIR BUSINESSES. WE NEED THOSE ANSWERS. WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STUDY WILL SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHAT EFFECTS TARP AND LOST SHARE AGREEMENTS HAVE HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY BANKS. WE ALSO HOPE THAT IT WILL SHED LIGHT ON WHY IMMEDIATE WRITEDOWNS ARE BEING DEMANDED ON OUR COMMUNITY BANKS WHEN THE LOANS ARE PERFORMING. PEOPLE ARE PAYING THEIR INTEREST. THEY'RE MEETING THEIR RENEWABLE REQUIREMENTS, YET, REGULATORS ARE INSISTING THAT THESE LOANS BE MARKED DOWN. THIS HAS CAUSED WHAT I CALL A PAPER LOSS FOR A LOT OF THESE BANKS THAT ARE THEN BEING MADE TO ASK TO RAISE CAPITAL WHEN THEY'RE UNDER CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS. SO ALL OF THIS DOES NOT WORK TOGETHER. IN FACT, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS PREVIOUS CONGRESS HAS CAUSED A SNOWBALL TO ROLL FASTER DOWNHILL. I HOPE THEY'LL LOOK AT THE MARK TO MARKET TO SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT THE EFFECT OF BANKS THAT HAVE GOTTEN TARP MONEY HAVE COME IN, AND FIRE SOLD PROPERTIES THAT HAVE CAUSED REAL PROPERTY VALUES TO GO DOWN. NOT JUST FOR THE BANKS, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOUGHT IN THERE. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY LOST SHARE AGREEMENTS PROMOTE NOT MODIFYING LOANS. WHY IT PROMOTES GETTING RID OF SOME OF THESE BAD LOANS. WHY IT PROMOTES BEING ABLE, A BANK TO BE ABLE TO GET RID OF PROPERTY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GUARANTEES THEM 95% OF THEIR LOSS. WHAT EFFECT HAS THAT HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY BANKS THAT DIDN'T GET THE TARP, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO BE IN THESE LOSS SHARE AGREEMENTS. THESE ARE ANSWERS WE'RE LOOKING FOR. MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, SO WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:13:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 2056 AS AMENDED? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, 2/3 BEING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED, THE BILL IS PASSED AND WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION IS RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE.

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  • 07:14:09 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. WESTMORELAND

    A RECORDED VOTE. NO, I OBJECT TO THE VOTE ON THE GROUNDS THAT A QUORUM IS…

    A RECORDED VOTE. NO, I OBJECT TO THE VOTE ON THE GROUNDS THAT A QUORUM IS NOT PRESENT AND MAKE A POINT OF ORDER THAT A QUORUM IS NOT PRESENT.

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  • 07:14:24 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS IN WHICH…

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS IN WHICH TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL ON THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584 AND THAT I MAY INCLUDE TABULAR MATERIAL ON THE SAME.

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  • 07:14:45 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND RULE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. DOLD, KINDLY TAKE THE CHAIR?

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  • 07:15:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR…

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 07:15:35 PM

    THE CLERK

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,…

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 07:15:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE ON MONDAY, JULY 25, 2011, THE BILL HAD…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE ON MONDAY, JULY 25, 2011, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ THROUGH PAGE 3, LINE 2. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN RISE?

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    MR. CLARKE

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    I ASK THAT THE READING REQUIREMENT BE SUSPENDED.

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    MR. CLARKE

    I ASK THAT THE READING REQUIREMENT BE SUSPENDED.

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    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CLARKE

    MR. CHAIR. I ALSO ASK TO -- UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    MR. CHAIR. I ALSO ASK TO -- UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 07:16:53 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MOVE $10 MILLION FROM THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MOVE $10 MILLION FROM THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT. HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THIS $10 MILLION. IT'S HELPING TO SAVE JOBS CONNECTED TO THE $7 BILLION GREAT LAKES FISHING INDUSTRY. THIS INDUSTRY AND THE JOBS CONNECTED TO IT ARE AT STAKE, ARE AT RISK BECAUSE OF THE ASIAN CARP. SO IT'S MY INTENTION THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY DESIGNATE THIS ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION TO THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE, TO STOP THE ASIAN CARP FROM MIGRATING INTO THE GREAT LAKES. UNFORTUNATELY JUST LAST WEEK, AND THIS IS THE URGENCY OF THIS SITUATION, WHY I'M OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT, JUST LAST WEEK THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOUND ASIAN CARP D.N.A. IN LAKE MICHIGAN. THIS IS DEEPLY DISTURBING. WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO STOP THE ASIAN CARP FROM MIGRATING TO THE GREAT LAKES BASIN BECAUSE OF THE $7 BILLION INDUSTRY THAT'S AT STAKE. YOU KNOW, THESE CARP, THEY COME AND THEY EAT ALL THE FOOD UP IN THE ECOSYSTEM AND THAT LEAVES VERY LITTLE FOR THE NATIVE FISH. THE NATIVE FISH IS WHAT PEOPLE FISH FOR IN THE GREAT LAKES. SO AGAIN I URGE THIS BODY FOR THE SAKE OF PRESERVING THE GREAT LAKES FISHING INDUSTRY TO ALLOW THIS AMENDMENT AND AGAIN IT'S MY INTENTION THAT THE ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION WOULD GO TOWARDS A GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE WHICH RIGHT NOW IS UNDERFUNDED BY $100 MILLION. SO IT WILL BE SOME MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENT AND TO HAVE THAT MONEY FOCUSED ON PRESERVING OUR GREAT LAKES FISHING JOBS BY STOPPING THE ASIAN CARP. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND IF I'M ABLE TO -- MR. CHAIR, AND IF I'M ABLE TO RESERVE MY TIME, I DO SO AND IF NOT I DO YIELD MY TIME BACK.

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  • 07:19:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THE…

    IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS A RADICAL ASSAULT ON PUBLIC HEALTH, ON CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND THIS BILL WOULDN'T CREATE A SINGLE JOB. INSTEAD OF CREATING JOBS AND PROTECTING THE PUBLIC HEALTH, THIS BILL GIVES POLLUTERS AND OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS LICENSE TO DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT. THIS MIGHT BE THE SINGLE WORST BILL IN THIS HOUSE FOR OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT SINCE THE DAYS OF NEWT GINGRICH.

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  • 07:20:03 PM

    MR. MILLER

    THIS BILL THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE UNDERMINING THE CLEAN WATER ACT,…

    THIS BILL THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE UNDERMINING THE CLEAN WATER ACT, THEY'RE CREATING AND GUTTING THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND THAT'S NOT ALL. THIS LEGISLATION MAKES IT HARDER FOR OUR STATES AND CITIES TO IMPROVE OUR CRUMB BEBLING WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS THROUGH THE STATE CLEAN WATER AND DRINKING WATER REVOLVING FUNDS. THE LEGISLATION BLOCKS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FROM PROTECTING US FROM MERCURY AND SOOT AND POWER PLANT POLLUTION. UNDER THIS BILL THE E.P.A. WOULD HARDLY BE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT DANGEROUS POLLUTION THAT THREATENS OUR PUBLIC HEALTH. THE LEGISLATION BLOCKS THE NEW VEHICLE STANDARDS THAT WILL SAVE CONSUMERS AT THE GAS PUMP AND WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OIL THAT WE IMPORT AS A NATION. AND IF THAT WASN'T BAD ENOUGH, THE BILL DECIDES TO PROHIBIT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FROM SETTING ITS OWN CLEAN VEHICLE STANDARDS. THE LEGISLATION ALSO INCLUDES AN EXTINCTION WRITER, ONE OF THE MOST AGGRESSIVE THREATS TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN MY CAREER HERE THAT WOULD FREEZE ALL OF THE EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE IMPERILED SPECIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND ONE OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE ASPECTS OF THIS BILL IS OUT OF A VERY LONG LIST IS THE 80% CUT IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND HAS TAKEN OIL AND GAS DRILLING FUEL AND A FINITE RESOURCE TO INVEST THEM IN THE CONTINUING PROTECTION OF OUR RESOURCES ON LAND, NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THESE ARE TAKESEN FROM THE OIL COMPANIES -- TAKEN FROM THE OIL COMPANIES THAT DRILL IN THE OFFSHORE, THEY'RE USED TO PRESERVE THE NATIONAL PARKS, THE WILDLIFE HABITAT, TRACE AND WORKING RANCHES -- TRAILS AND WORKING RANCHES AND FORESTS. THERE HAS BEEN BIPARTISAN CON ENKEN US IS A-- CONSENSUS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, THAT WE WILL USE THESE GAS ROYALTIES TO PROTECT AMERICAN PLACES FOR FUTUREGEN RACES. OUTSIDE OF THE -- FUTURE GENERATIONS. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WANTS TO END OUR COMMITMENT TO USE THESE FEES OF BIG OIL TO PROTECT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS. THESE ARE OUR PUBLIC LANDS, THESE ARE THE LANDS THAT AMERICA'S FAMILIES USE EVERY SUMMER, USE AT DIFFERENT SEASONS AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY ALL THE TIME. THESE ARE THE PUBLIC SPACES THAT MAKE US THE ENVY OF THE REST OF THE WORLD. THESE ARE THE PUBLIC SYSTEMS THAT THE COUNTRIES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD SEND PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DID WE SAVE THEM, HOW DO WE PROTECT THEM, HOW DO WE MANAGE THEM? WE SET THE STANDARD FOR THE WORLD AS IT WAS SAID -- WORLD. AS IT WAS SAID EARLIER, ONE OF AMERICA'S BEST IDEAS BUT NOW ALL OF THAT IS THREATENED FOR THE CUT TO THESE FUNDS. MR. SPEAKER, THESE -- A FEW -- THESE ARE A FEW OF MY REASONS BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY MORE WHY I WOULD STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION AND THE VERY BAD, BAD IDEAS THAT IT CONTAINS. I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS CONGRESS WOULD REJECT THIS LEGISLATION OUT OF HAND. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:22:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO. THIS…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD LIMIT THE B.L.M. FROM SPENDING $10 MILLION AND OFFSETTING COLLECTIONS AND PUT THE FUNDING INTO THE E.P.A.'S GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS.

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  • 07:23:03 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO AND AM SYMPATHETIC WITH WHAT HE'S…

    I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO AND AM SYMPATHETIC WITH WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO. WE HAVE MANY INVASIVE SPECIES IN IDAHO SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THE GENTLEMAN IS COMING FROM AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE. THAT SAID, WE WORKED HARD TO BALANCE FUNDING IN THIS BILL, WE ALREADY FUNDED INVASIVE SPECIES IN THE GREAT LAKES AT $43 MILLION AND THE TOTAL FOR GREAT LAKES GEOGRAPHIC -- THE GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAM IS $250 MILLION. IT MAKES LITTLE SENSE AS AN OFFSET TO TAKE THE FUNDS FROM THE OFFSETTING COLLECTIONS FOR THE COST TO ADMINISTER THE OIL AND GAS PROGRAMS, IN OTHER WORDS, THESE PROGRAMS ARE PAID FOR BY THE INDUSTRY, NOT BY THE TAXPAYERS. SO, WHILE I DON'T NECESSARILY OPPOSE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO, IT'S THE OFFSET THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAS CREATED TO PUT THE $10 MILLION IN THERE AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE A BALANCE BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITH LIMITED FUNDING SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN THE GREAT LAKES, THE BEST WE COULD IN THIS BILL, AND I WOULD OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND ASK MY MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:24:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

  • 07:24:11 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    THE GENTLEMAN TO YIELD THE TIME, PLEASE.

  • 07:24:15 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD IF I HAVE TIME LEFT.

  • 07:24:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RECLAIMS HIS TIME. YOU HAVE TIME LEFT.

  • 07:24:23 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. I DO HAVE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT DOES STATE…

    YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. I DO HAVE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT DOES STATE THAT THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY DOES HOLD AROUND 7,200 DRILLING PERMITS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN USED YET BUT I DO TAKE THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT IN CONSIDERATION. IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD WORK OUT SOMETHING BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO UNDERCUT THE DRILLING PROGRAM AT ALL HERE. DID I NOTICE IN FISCAL YEAR 2012 -- I DID NOTICE IN FISCAL YEAR 2012 THAT THERE WAS A -- I SHOULD SAY A SURPLUS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE FUNDED WHICH WAS AROUND $45 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE COLLECTIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED, ARNEDS $27 MILLION. SO THERE WAS AROUND AN $18 MILLION OVERFUNDING THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I DID ASK FOR THIS OFFSET BECAUSE I FELT IT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE AND WOULD NOT UNDERCUT THE DRILLING PERMIT PROGRAM HERE.

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  • 07:25:28 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

  • 07:26:03 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    I ASK THE GENTLEMAN TO YIELD TIME BACK, PLEASE.

  • 07:26:06 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    PAPPY -- HAPPY TO YIELD.

  • 07:26:09 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S AT STAKE. IT'S A $7 BILLION INDUSTRY IN…

    THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S AT STAKE. IT'S A $7 BILLION INDUSTRY IN THE GREAT LAKES FISHING INDUSTRY AND RIGHT NOW METRO DETROIT AND THE STATE OF MICHIGAN'S IN VERY HARDHIT ECONOMIC TIMES, YOU KNOW, BY OUR INDUSTRIAL BASE BEING EVISCERATED. THIS IS THE ONE SAVING GRACE IN OUR STATE AND IN THAT REGION IS THE FISHING INDUSTRY. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING FOR THIS RIGHT NOW. IT'S EMERGENCY ACTION. WE FOUND ASIAN CARP D.N.A. IN LAKE MICHIGAN LAST WEEK. I BELIEVE I'VE GOT TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF NOT ONLY MICHIGAN BUT OF THAT ENTIRE REGION TO STOP THAT CARP FROM GETTING INTO THE GREAT LAKES SYSTEM WHICH WOULD DESTROY OUR FISHING INDUSTRY. I URGE YOUR HELP.

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  • 07:26:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 07:27:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

  • 07:27:12 PM

    MR. CLARKE

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 07:27:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS RISE?

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  • 07:27:31 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:27:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:27:42 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    SPEAKER, IN THE UNDERLYING BILL THE MAJORITY HAS UNDERFUNDED THE INTERIOR…

    SPEAKER, IN THE UNDERLYING BILL THE MAJORITY HAS UNDERFUNDED THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT AGENCY CHARGED WITH ISSUING NEW DRILLING PERMITS AND ENSURING THAT OFFSHORE DRILLING IS SAFE. THE UNDERLYING BILL WOULD UNDERFUND THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY, MANAGEMENT, REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT BY NEARLY $35 MILLION. THIS IS THE AGENCY THAT IS CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ENSURING THAT WE DRILL SAFELY OFF OF THE COAST LINE OF THE UNITED STATES. AT OUR VERY RECENT HEARING, THE DIRECTOR OF THAT AGENCY SAID THAT UNDERFUNDING THIS AGENCY AS THE MAJORITY, THE REPUBLICANS, HAVE DONE IN THIS BILL WOULD SLOW DOWN NEW OFFSHORE DRILLING PERMITS AND MAKE OFFSHORE DRILLING LESS SAFE AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. UNFORTUNATELY THE RULE THE MAJORITY ADOPTED HAS PROTECTED THE UNDERLYING PROVISION, LIMITING THE INSPECTION FEES PAID BY THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY FROM A POINT OF ORDER. AND NOW THE REPUBLICANS WILL NOT ALLOW THE HOUSE TO WORK ITS WILL ON THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE DRAFTED WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. HOLT, AND THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MRS. CAPPS. OUR AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE FULLY FUNDED THIS SAFETY AGENCY, BY INCREASING THE INSPECTION FEES ON THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. THE TOP FIVE OIL AND GAS COMPANIES MADE $35 BILLION IN PROFITS JUST IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR. THIS WEEK THEY WILL LIKELY REPORT SIMILAR PROFITS FOR THE SECOND QUARTER. IN FACT, EARLIER TODAY B.P. REPORTED QUARTERLY PROFITS OF $5.6 BILLION. THAT'S JUST FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, B.P. MADE $5.6 BILLION. YET THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE PAYS JUST $10 MILLION A YEAR IN INSPECTION FEES FOR OFFSHORE DRILLING. AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE PUTTING IT OFFSHORE TODAY FROM ANY CONSIDERATION BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY. SO OUR AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE, IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD ALLOWED US TO IMPLEMENT A KEY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE INDEPENDENT B.P. SPILL COMMISSION, THE B.P. COMMISSION RECOMMENDED INCREASING THE $10 MILLION PER YEAR THAT THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY CURRENTLY PAYS IN INSPECTION FEES SIGNIFICANTLY AND THAT IS WHAT OUR AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE DONE. THEREFORE MY FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FEDERAL SPEND, THE INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE SAFETY AGENCY WOULD HAVE COME FROM THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, NOT FROM TAXPAYERS. BUT THE MAJORITY WON'T EVEN ALLOW A VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY SUPPORTS INCREASED FUNDING FOR IT. THE PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. SAID THEY FULLY SUPPORT CONGRESS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THE SAFETY AGENCY. THIS AGENCY NEEDS ADDITIONAL INSPECTORS AND INCREASED STAFF TO ALLOW MORE EFFICIENT REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF OIL AND NATURAL GAS PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND PROCESSING OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS, BUT WHAT HAVE THE REPUBLICANS DONE IN THIS BILL? THEY HAVE UNDERFUNDED THIS AGENCY. THE OIL INDUSTRY AGREES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE FUNDING TO PROCESS PERMITS AND CONDUCT INSPECTIONS. THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER A PORTION OF THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM A SMALL INCREASE IN INSPECTION FEES AS THE INDEPENDENT B.P. COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED OR WHETHER AMERICAN TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PICK UP THE ENTIRE TAB. WE ARE SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD PAY THE FEE. THE AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE SHOULD PAY THE FEE. THE OIL INDUSTRY SHOULD HAVE TO PICK UP THE TAB AND RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE AN ABILITY TO DEBATE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. WHEN PEOPLE GO TO GET THEIR CARS INSPECTED, TO ENSURE THEY ARE SAFE, AND NOT A THREAT TO THE ENVIRONMENT, THEY PAY A SMALL FEE. BUT THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, WHICH IS RECORDING THE LARGEST PROFITS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY A FEE TO GET SOME OF THEIR RIGS INSPECTED TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER DEEPWATER HORIZON DISASTER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THESE RIGS INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE, NOT ALLOW OIL COMPANIES TO BE SAFE FROM PAYING FOR MORE INSPECTION FEES. BUT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO CUT THE DEFICIT, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS GIVING ANOTHER GIFT TO THE OIL INDUSTRY, STRAINING OUR OIL SAFETY AGENCY. MORE THAN ONE YEAR AFTER THE B.P. SPILL, IT IS STILL BUSINESS AS USUAL.

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  • 07:33:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:33:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:33:09 PM

    MS. CAPS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE --

  • 07:33:14 PM

    MRS. CAPPS

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT HOW THIS LEGISLATION WE ARE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT HOW THIS LEGISLATION WE ARE CONSIDERING UNDERMINES THE ABILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE PROTECTING OUR NATION'S AIR, LAND, AND WATER. I INTENDED TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUE FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. HOLT, TO FULLY FUND THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, FULLY FUND THE NATIONAL AGENCY IN CHARGE OF REGULATING OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS DRILLING. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO CHANGES BY THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP TO THE HOUSE BUDGET PROCESS, WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT. IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR SINCE THE NATION'S WORST OFFSHORE OIL SPILL AND I THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD BE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT RATHER THAN TAKING ACTION TO PREVENT ANOTHER DEADLY SPILL, THIS HOUSE CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT EXPANDING OFFSHORE DRILLING WHILE SIDESTEPPING ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS TO DO SO. THEY'D ALSO BE SURPRISED, OUR CONSTITUENTS, TO LEARN THAT THE UNDERLYING BILL BLOCKS THE BUREAU'S ABILITY TO COLLECT INSPECTION FEES AND AS A RESULT, THE AGENCY WOULD SEE A $35 MILLION CUT IN THEIR BUDGET. MR. CHAIRMAN, IN HIS FISCAL YEAR 2012 BUDGET REQUEST, PRESIDENT OBAMA ASKED FOR A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FOR THE BUREAU OVER HIS 2010 BUDGET. HE ASKED FOR THE NEW MONEY TO HIRE ADDITIONAL INSPECTORS, ENHANCE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AND TO ENFORCE, AND STRENGTHEN REGULATIONS. IF WE RECALL, A YEAR AGO, THE EVENTS FOLLOWING THE SPILL, WE WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS THE CASE. WHILE THIS REQUEST WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OVER PRIOR YEARS, THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED TO OFFSET HERELY HALF OF THE REQUESTS BY INCREASING THE INSPECTION FEES ON OFFSHORED RIGS. THIS IS A KEY RECOMMENDATION OF THE PRESIDENT'S BIPARTISAN, INDEPENDENT NATIONAL OIL SPILL COMMISSION. IN THEIR REPORT, THE COMMISSIONERS RECOMMENDED THE INDUSTRY FEE SHOULD BE INCREASED TO, AND I QUOTE FROM THEIR REPORT, TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE LEASING CAPABILITIES AND REGULATORY OVERSIGHT FOR THE INCREASINGLY COMPLEX REGULATORY ACTIVITIES BEING UNDERTAKEN ON THE O.C.S. OUR STRAIGHTFORWARD AMENDMENT ADOPT THIS IS KEY RECOMMENDATION TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING NEEDED FOR GOVERNMENT REGULATORS TO DO THEIR JOB AND IT WILL ENSURE A SAFER AND MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE INDUSTRY. MR. CHAIRMAN, KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW, IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW OFFSHORE DRILLING IN U.S. WATERS, THE GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE PROTECTING US AGAINST A REPEAT OF LAST YEAR'S DISASTER AND IF OIL AND GAS CORPORATIONS WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRILL, IT'S ONLY FAIR FOR THEM TO HELP COVER THE COST OF ENSURING IT'S DONE PROPERLY, THAT THEIR WORKERS ARE PROTECTED AND THE SURROUNDING OCEAN IS SAFE. BUT ULTIMATELY, CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURR STRINGS AND WE MUST REQUIRE THESE CORPORATIONS TO STEP UP. SO THE BUREAU CAN ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE, COMMUNITIES, ECONOMIES, AND ENVIRONMENT OF THE GULF, OF ALASKA, OFF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COAST, ARE PROTECTED AGAINST A SPILL. WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE AN AGENCY CAPABLE OF PROPERLY REGULATING THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY IS DEPENDENT ON OUR DIGS. WITHOUT THESE FEES, TAXPAYERS, RATHER THAN THE INDUSTRY, WOULD SHOULDER THESE COST. IF WE WANT TONE SURE SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE -- TO ENSURE SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE DRILLING, WE MUST DO THIS. THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO ENDAUGHTER A REPEAT OF THE HORRIFIC DISASTER THAT IS STILL INFLICTING PAIN AND DAMAGE TO THE GULF OF MEXICO AND TO THOSE WHO MAKE THEIR LIVING FROM IT. WHAT A TERRIBLE LEGACY OF THIS CONGRESS THAT WE HAVE DONE SO LITTLE FOLLOWING THE GULF OIL DISASTER. WHAT A LEGACY, SHOULD, GOD FORBID, A FUTURE DISASTER TAKE PLACE AND WE WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED THAT ON OUR WATCH, WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME

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  • 07:37:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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  • 07:37:35 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:37:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:37:41 PM

    MR. HOLT

    BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT. SOUNDS LIKE…

    BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS FAR LESS THAN WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, PROTECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND OF WORKERS FOR OFFSHORE OIL AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. THE DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU RECENTLY TESTIFIED THAT THESE FUNDS THAT ARE MISSING ARE NEEDED AND THAT THEY WILL HAVE THEIR -- AND THAT THEIR LACK WILL HAVE A DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THEABLE OF THE AGENCY TO HIRE INSPECTION AN PERMITTING PERSONNEL. IT'S INTERESTING THAT SO EAGER IS THE MAJORITY TO LOOK AFTER THE INTERESTS OF THE OIL INDUSTRY THAT THEY RULED OUT OF ORDER OUR AMENDMENT WHICH PROVIDES A ONE--- WHICH PROVIDES ONE WAY TO MAKE UP FOR THESE LOST FUNDS. THIS AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD HAVE OFFERED WITH MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS AND MRS. CAPPS OF CALIFORNIA HAD THE AMENDMENT BEEN IN ORDER, SO EAGER ARE THEY TO LOOK AFTER THE INTERESTS OF THE OIL INDUSTRY, THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORK AGAINST THE OIL INDUSTRY. THE IRONY IS PRETTY RICH HERE. AT A TIME WHEN THE MAJORITY IS AGGRESSIVELY PUSHING THEIR OIL, OIL, OIL, DILL, DRILL, DRILL, AGENDA, THEY'RE SLASHING THE VERY FUNDS THAT ARE NEEDED BY THE BUREAU TO CONDUCT THE LEASE SALES AND ISSUE THE PERMITS AND INSPECT THE OFFSHORE DRILLING FACILITIES SO THAT THE INDUSTRY CAN MOVE AHEAD SAFELY AND EFFICIENCY. -- AND EFFICIENTLY. AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE ABOUT, ACCORDING TO THE MAJORITY HERE, ABOUT TO REQUIRE SENIORS AND THE POOR TO PAY MORE FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE AND THE MAJORITY IS CONSIDERING DRASTIC CUTS TO THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND CONSIDERING TRADING AWAY CRITICAL PARTS OF MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, THE MAJORITY IS PREPARED TO HAND OUT YET ANOTHER SUBSIDY TO THE OIL INDUSTRY. THEY REFUSE TO MAKE IN ORDER THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD TAKE .02%, THAT'S /10 OF 1% OF THE -- THAT'S 2/10 OF 1% OF THE ANNUAL PROFITS OF OIL COMPANIES TO REPLACE THE MISSING $35 MILLION IN INSPECTION FEES. THAT AMOUNT WOULD FULLY FUND THE BUREAU AND WOULD ENSURE THAT THE AGENCY COULD EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY ISSUE THE PERMITS AND CONDUCT THE SAFETY INSPECTIONS. THIS IS AN INDUSTRY THAT IS MAKING TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH QUARTER AS WE HEARD B.P. JUST TODAY ANNOUNCED MORE THAN $5 BILLION PROFIT. THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT BELOW EXPECTATIONS, WE READ. $5 BILLION IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. SO AS A RESULT, BECAUSE THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT BEING MADE IN ORDER, THIS BILL, SHOULD IT BECOME LAW, WOULD LEAVE THE AGENCY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF OFFSHORE DRILLING UNDERFUNDED, UNDERSTAFFED, AND IT WOULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC AND THE WORKERS AT RISK. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:41:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CLERK WILL READ.

  • 07:41:46 PM

    THE CLERK

    LINE 21, CONSTRUCTION, $3,576,000. LAND ACCUSATION, $4,480,000.

  • 07:41:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE RISE?

  • 07:42:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:42:04 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. BASS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE.

  • 07:42:07 PM

    MR. BASS

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED AS READ.

  • 07:42:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO DISPENSING OF THE READING? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN…

    TO DISPENSING OF THE READING? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 07:42:19 PM

    MR. BASS

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR RECOGNIZING ME AND MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR RECOGNIZING ME AND MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT IN THE BILL. IT WILL RESTORE $20 MILLION TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. IT IS OFFSET BY A REDUCTION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF SUPERIOR -- INTERIOR SALARIES AND EXPENSES. AT PRESENT IT'S ABOUT $250 MILLION SO THIS WOULD REPRESENT ROUGHLY A 10% REDUCTION IN THE OVERHEAD FOR THE AGENCY BUT WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT? YOU GET ABOUT AN 8% INCREASE IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND FUNDING. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND WAS ESTABLISHED 46 YEARS AGO IN 1965. IT WAS DESIGNED AS A FORWARD-LOOKING PROGRAM TO PRESERVE CRITICAL ASSETS IN AMERICA FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY. WHEN YOU TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD, YOU DON'T FIND COUNTRIES LIKE AMERICA THAT HAVE LARGE PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY PRESERVED FOR PUBLIC USE. MOST OF THE LAND IN OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD IS OWNED PRIVATELY OR BY THE GOVERNMENT AND IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE GOVERNMENT. THE LWCF THROUGH ITS STATESIDE PROGRAM AND FOREST LEGACY FUND HAVE PROVIDED COUNTLESS ACRES OF PROTECTED LAND FOR PUBLIC ENJOYMENT. NOW, THE FUND HAS, FOR THE LAST 25 OR SO YEARS, RECEIVED MOST OF ITS FUNDING FROM OFFSHORE OIL ROYALTIES. AND THOSE ROYALTIES HAVE AVERAGED ANYWHERE FROM $7 BILLION TO $18 BILLION A YEAR. I HAVE A LITTLE TABLE HERE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT SHOWS THE TOTAL ROYALTIES AND HOW LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND TAKES FROM THESE RECEIPTS. IT'S AUTHORIZED AT $900 MILLION. IT'S BEEN FUNDED AT, OF LATE, AROUND $300 MILLION AND $-- 300,000 AND $500,000. THIS YEAR IT'S FUNDED AT LESS THAN $70 MILLION. WE REPUBLICANS HAVE SET AS A GOAL IN OUR PRINCIPLES TO REDUCE THE GROWTH OF GOVERNMENT AND REDUCE PROGRAMS TO THEIR JANUARY 1, 2008, LEVEL. WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL? WE HAVE REDUCED THIS FUND TO ITS 1965 LEVEL. I HAVE HERE ANOTHER LITTLE TABLE THAT SHOWS THE HISTORICAL FUNDING FOR THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM. THERE'S 1965. WE WILL BE LOWER THAN THAT IF WE DON'T PASS THIS AMENDMENT. I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, FOR THE SAKE OF THE 900,000 AMERICANS THAT HAVE IT THESE LANDS DURING THE YEAR, OF THE COUNTLESS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON THE OUTDOOR RECREATION INDUSTRY, THROUGH THEIR OUTDOOR RECREATION INDUSTRY, FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAY NEVER SEE AGAIN TO MAKE CRITICAL PURCHASES AND EASEMENT PURCHASES OF ASSETS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY. TO RAISE THIS APPROPRIATION FROM $68 MILLION TO $90 MILLION , IT'S A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THOSE FUNDS. WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM OF LAND CONSERVATION, LOCAL RECREATION AND, YES, WORKING FORESTS AND A $68 MILLION APPROPRIATION JUST PLAIN DOESN'T DO IT. SO ON BEHALF OF MY SPONSORS I URGE YOU, MY CO-SPONSORS, RATHER, I URGE YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND MAKE IT A PART OF THE UNDERLYING BILL. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:46:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 07:46:22 PM

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    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JOIN MY FRIEND FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE AS ONE OF THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JOIN MY FRIEND FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE AS ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS OF THIS AMENDMENT AND I URGE HOUSE PASSAGE.

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  • 07:46:32 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    ME SAY AT THE OUTSET THAT THIS IS A TERRIBLE BILL. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME…

    ME SAY AT THE OUTSET THAT THIS IS A TERRIBLE BILL. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE COME TO THE HOUSE FLOOR TO SPEAK ON IT. AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THE DEVASTATION THAT THIS UNDERLYING LEGISLATION WOULD DO TO OUR FRANKLY CENTURY-LONG HISTORY OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS ALMOST INSCRIBEBLE. THE LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS SAID SIMPLY THIS, THAT THIS BILL IS THE BIGGEST ASSAULT ON THE AIR WE BREATHE, THE WATER WE DRINK AND THE WILDLIFE AND WILD PLACES WE HOLD DEAR TO EVER COME BEFORE CONGRESS. IT ROLLS BACK NEW VEHICLE EMISSION STANDARDS, IT GUTS THE CLEAN WATER ACT, IT DEFUNDS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. AND IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL IT ADDS AN 80% CUT TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, AS MY FRIEND, REPRESENTATIVE BASS, RIGHTLY POINTED OUT. IT ESSENTIALLY REVERSES 50 YEARS OF INVESTMENT IN LAND CONSERVATION BY RETURNING THIS ACCOUNT BACK TO THE 1965 LEVEL. IT WAS A GREAT REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, TEDDY ROOSEVELT, WHO FIRST HAD THE WISDOM TO UNDERSTAND HOW INTEGRAL THE OPEN SPACES OF THIS COUNTRY ARE TO WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN. THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. THE VIEWS AND THE VISTAS ARE JUST ONE PART OF IT, OUR IDENTITY IS WRAPPED UP IN THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE CONSERVED, THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE CONSERVED THROUGH THE VERY RIGHTFUL ACTS OF INVESTMENT BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, BUT INDEED OVER THE LAST 100 YEARS. AND IT'S BEEN REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSES THAT SINCE THAT MOMENT OF AWAKENING IN THIS NATION HAVE REALIZED THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT KIND OF INVESTMENT FOR THIS NATION, IT'S THE RIGHT KIND OF INVESTMENT BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR NATION, BUT IT DOES SO BY LEVERAGING PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND STATE INVESTMENT. AS REPRESENTATIVE BASS NOTED, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF LWCF IS THE FOREST LEGACY PROGRAM. THAT PROGRAM HAS CONSERVED TWO MILLION ACRES AROUND THE COUNTRY. IN MY STATE OF CONNECTICUT IT'S HELPED CONSERVE 8,000 ACRES AND IT DOES IT BY PARTNERING WITH STATE RESOURCES, WITH LOCAL RESOURCES AND INDEED WITH PRIVATE RESOURCES. IN MY STATE OFTEN THROUGH THE GENEROSITY OF LAND TRUSTS. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY WISE INVESTMENT, AS IT HAS BEEN OVER THE YEARS. AND WORST OF ALL THIS ISN'T EVEN GETTING AT THE LARGER QUESTION OF DEFICIT REDUCTION BECAUSE THIS ACCOUNT HAS NEVER BEEN FUNDED THROUGH DEFICIT, IT'S NEVER BEEN FUNDED THROUGH BORROWING, IT'S BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE MONEY THAT COMES FROM OUR OFFSHORE OIL LEASES. THERE ARE SO MANY HORRIBLE CUTS IN THIS BILL, THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS FOR THOSE OF US WHO BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION MADE REAL BY BIPARTISAN SUPPORT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST CENTURY TO OPPOSE THIS BILL. BUT THIS IS IN MY MIND THE WORST OF IT. THIS IS A SAD DAY WHERE WE STAND TODAY, THIS IS A SMALL, SMALL INCREASE BEYOND WHAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE PROPOSED TO CUT, BUT I THINK IT IS MEANINGFUL IN A SENSE THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS CONGRESS TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY WHAT DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF CONGRESSES HAVE SAID SINCE 1965, THAT IT IS AN AMERICAN INVESTMENT TO SPEND FEDERAL MONEY TOWARDS THE PROJECT OF LAND CONSERVATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:50:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:50:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:50:20 PM

    MR. MORAN

    CHAIRMAN, I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND.…

    CHAIRMAN, I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT ENVIRONMENTAL SUCCESS STORIES OF THE PAST 50 YEARS. THE 65 -- $65.8 MILLION THAT THE BILL CONTAINS FOR THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND IS IN FACT, AS HAS BEEN STATED, THE LOWEST SINCE THE PROGRAM WAS STARTED BACK IN 1965. THIS IS A 78% CUT FROM THE CURRENT LEVEL OF FUNDING. BUT I HAVE TO OPPOSE THE BASS-MURPHY AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY IS TOO SMALL BUT THE OFFSET USED WOULD IN FACT HARM OTHER IMPORTANT PROGRAMS. THE $20 MILLION FOR THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND THAT THE BASS-MURPHY AMENDMENT WOULD RESTORE IS LESS THAN 10% OF THE $235 MILLION CUT FROM THIS YEAR'S LEVEL. SO TO FUND THIS PLUS-UP, THE BASS AMENDMENT ACTUALLY MAKES IT WORSE BY TAKING $20 MILLION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT. BECAUSE WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN INCREASE IN FUNDING IN THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE IS ACTUALLY THE TRANSFER OF THE REVENUE COLLECTION FUNCTION FROM THE BUREAU OF OCEAN, ENERGY, MANAGEMENT AND REGULATION ENFORCEMENT. THEY TOOK THAT IN SO THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT CAN DO A BETTER JOB IN COLLECTING THE ROYALTIES AND PAYMENTS THAT IT DREW FROM OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF DRILLING. BUT IF YOU TAKE THIS $20 MILLION AWAY, IT JEOPARDIZES THOSE COLLECTIONS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND IS IN FACT FUNDED WITH OUTER CONTINENTAL SHELF ROYALTIES. BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO COLLECT THOSE ROYALTIES NOT ONLY ARE YOU TAKING THE $20 MILLION FROM THE ABILITY OF THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR TO MANAGE THE OFFICE BUT YOU COULD VERY WELL BE COSTING THE GOVERNMENT MUCH MORE THAN $20 MILLION BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT THOSE ROYALTIES THAT IN FACT PAY FOR THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. NOW, WE COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN CUT BY 78%. IT SHOULD BE RESTORED, WE HAVE SAID THAT IN OUR STATEMENT, WE SUPPORT AMENDMENTS TO RESTORE IT, BUT CERTAINLY NOT TO TAKE IT FROM THE ABILITY OF THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR TO COLLECT THE VERY REVENUES THAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS AND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE OWED. SO THAT'S WHY REGRETTABLY I HAVE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. AND I WILL YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:53:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE ACE HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO -- AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 07:53:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:53:49 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:54:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:54:32 PM

    MR. LAMBORN

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT RESERVE.

  • 07:56:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    NOT RESERVE.

  • 07:56:02 PM

    MR. LAMBORN

    ME? THEN I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU.

  • 07:56:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

  • 07:56:09 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT.

  • 07:56:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:56:13 PM

    MR. MORAN

    ADD $20 MILLION WERE STILL AROUND BECAUSE THEIR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. YOU…

    ADD $20 MILLION WERE STILL AROUND BECAUSE THEIR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY CUT 78% FROM THIS PROGRAM, I WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE ENTIRELY. THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND IS ONE OF THE PREMIER ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS IN THIS COUNTRY, MOST PERSONS -- AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA HOW IMPORTANT IT HAS BEEN TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AND TO THE ECOLOGY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY. BUT BY WIPING OUT THESE FUNDS ENTIRELY THE AMENDMENT WOULD FORCE LAND MANAGEMENT AGENCIES TO CEASE ALL WORK ON CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW UNDER WAY USING PREVIOUS YEAR APPROPRIATIONS. THIS MEAN-SPIRITED AMENDMENT WILL HURT LAND OWNERS WHO ARE WILLING TO SELL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PREVENT AGENCIES FROM FINISHING THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. AMONG THE WILLING SELLERS WHO WOULD BE UNFAIRLY THROWN TO THE CURB ARE OWNERS WHO ARE PARTWAY THROUGH CONTRACTED SALES AND ARE COUNTING ON LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDING TO COMPLETE THOSE SALES, THOSE CONTRACTS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON. MANY LAND OWNERS WHO RANGE FROM ELDERLY WIDOWERS AND FAMILY TRUSTS TO RANCHERS AND FOREST OWNERS HAVE PRESSING FINANCIAL NEEDS THAT NOW DEPEND ON THE COMPLETION OF WHETHER ONGOING LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION -- ON ONGOING LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION PROJECTS. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE SALE OF LAND, IT'S EXCHANGES OF LAND THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT. MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING AND SO VERY IMPORTANT FOR LOCAL AND PRIVATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FOR PUBLIC LAND MANAGEMENT. UNDER THIS AMENDMENT STAFF WOULD NOT EVEN BE IN PLACE TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS DONATIONS OF IMPORTANT NATURAL HISTORIC AND OTHER PROPERTIES, DONATIONS TO THE PUBLIC, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE STAFF TO ACCEPT THOSE DONATIONS. WITHOUT STAFF, RIGHT OF WAY WORK TO PROVIDE OR MAINTAIN ACCESS TO KEY PUBLIC NEEDS ALSO WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. THE PUBLIC, THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER WOULD BE UNABLE TO SECURE CRITICALLY NEEDED ROUTES FOR FUEL AND WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT. OR FOR WATERSHED MANAGEMENT. OR FOR ACCESS FOR SPORTSMEN AND OTHER RECREATIONAL USE. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE SPORTSMEN OF THIS COUNTRY COULD EVER WANT TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PROHIBITION GO IN PLACE THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN GET ACCESS TO IMPORTANT RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR FISHING AND HUNTING AND SO ON. THE AMENDMENT WOULD EXACERBATE AN ALREADY DRACONIAN CUT, 78% CUT, TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM. IT'S A FUND -- IT'S A PROGRAM THAT IS ALREADY PAID FOR USING A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OIL DRILLING RECEIPTS. I WOULD HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING TO THIS DEBATE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDS ARE NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THEY COME FROM THE RECEIPTS FROM OIL AND GAS DRILLING, DRILLING THAT IS ON PUBLICLY OWNED LAND. THOSE ROYALTIES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE A SMALL PERCENTAGE, BUT THEY NEVERTHELESS COME INTO THE GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO FUND THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. . BUT THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THAT PROGRAM. THIS IS A COMPLETE ELIMINATION OF A BIPARTISAN PROGRAM THAT HAS EXISTED FOR 45 YEARS. THIS PROPOSAL PREVENTS REVENUES IN THE WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION ACCOUNT BEING USED FOR AUTHORIZED PURPOSES. THESE FUNDS WERE PROMISE TODD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS CONGRESS SHOULD NOT BE BREAKING THAT LONG-STANDING COMMITMENT. I WOULD URGE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:00:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

  • 08:00:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES GENTLEMAN RISE?

  • 08:05:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 08:05:03 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE HERE AND I'M GOING, WHAT…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE HERE AND I'M GOING, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? WHAT IS THE RATIONALE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US AND MORE POINT HE HADLY, THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS JUST OFFERED. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE COUNTRY. THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT VERY RECENTLY TOOK GREAT PROVIDED IN CLEANING ITS RIVERS -- PRIDE IN CLEANING ITS RIVERS IN PROTECTING IT FROM CHEMICALS, TOXINS AND POISONS. THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT TOOK PRIDE IN CREATING THE FIRST NATIONAL PARK AND EXPANDING IT OVER TIME TO CREATE THE MOST AWESOME NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN THE SNAKE RIVER AND THE USE OF THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUNDS. AN ARGUMENT WAS MADE A MOMENT AGO THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY, BUT A MONTH AGO, AN EFFORT TO INCREASE THE ROYALTIES FROM OUR OIL, THAT IS PUMPED FROM OUR LAND, THE LAND OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES TO INCREASE THOSE ROYALTIES AND IN FACT TO GET A ROYALTY WAS REJECTED FROM OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES. THIS LEGISLATION GOES FAR BEYOND THAT AND OVER TIME WILL DESTROY THE PRIDE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN CREATING OUR NATIONAL PARKS AND SETTING ASIDE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS THE GREAT ADVICE TASS OF AMERICA CA -- VISTAS. YOU LOOK AT THIS BILL AND YOU SAY, HOW COULD THEY PUT IN LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BLOCK THE EFFORT OF THE E.P.A. TO ELIMINATE MERCURY POISON IN OUR AIR AND WATER? HOW COULD THEY ALLOW A BILL THAT WOULD CREATE MORE SOOT IN OUR ATMOSPHERE, PUT 34,000 LIVES AT RISK, EXEMPT THE OIL COMPANIES FROM AIR POLLUTION STANDARDS AND OFF-SHORE DRILLING, WHICH IN CALIFORNIA IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THE AIR BLOWS ONTO THE LAND. HOW COULD THEY THREATEN THE LIVES OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS BY BLOCKING THE E.P.A. HOW COULD THEY PUT TOGETHER A BILL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATE 117 MILLION AMERICANS' WATER. HOW COULD YOU DO THAT? HAVE YOU NO PRIDE IN THIS COUNTRY? DO YOU NOT CARE ABOUT THE BASIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO CREATE A COUNTRY THAT CARES ABOUT CLEAN WATER? YOU TALK ABOUT JOBS, AND YET IN THIS BILL, YOU ELIMINATE THE FUNDING FOR THE CLEAN WATER ACT, WHICH IS REALLY BUILDING SANITATION FACILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY? I REMEMBER IN THE 1960'S, THE GREAT PRIDE, 500 PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY TOOK WHEN THEY GOT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND BUILT THE FIRST SANITATION SYSTEM IN THAT SMALL TOWN. HOW COULD YOU DEN EYE AMERICANS -- DENY THE AMERICANS THAT OPPORTUNITY? THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT YOU ARE DOING, GENTLEMEN, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WILL NOT TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:08:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. MEMBERS ARE REMINDED TO…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. MEMBERS ARE REMINDED TO ADDRESS THEIR REMARKS TO THE CHAIR. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO RISE?

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  • 08:09:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    READ -- WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    TO WAVE THE READING.

  • 08:09:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 08:09:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. TIPTON OF COLORADO.

  • 08:09:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT.

  • 08:09:35 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST?

  • 08:09:41 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. TIPTON OF COLORADO.

  • 08:09:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 08:09:50 PM

    MR. TIPTON

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS GOING TO APPLY FUNDS DIRECTED TOWARDS MUCH…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS GOING TO APPLY FUNDS DIRECTED TOWARDS MUCH NEEDED CONSERVATION PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE USED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND HELP SUPPORT JOBS IN RECREATIONAL AND SPORTSMEN INDUSTRIES. PUBLIC LANDS ARE A TREASURED RESOURCE FOR ALL AMERICANS FOR ALL AMERICANS TO ENJOY AND USE RESPONSIBLY. I SUPPORT A BALANCED APPROACH TO PUBLIC LAND USE RESPECTING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ALL DEEPLY VALUE WHILE MAKING THE BEST USE OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES ON PUBLIC LANDS. RECREATION, PRESERVATION, ACCESS AND JOB CREATION, THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE MULTIPLE USE MANAGEMENT FOR WHICH THESE LANDS ARE TRULY INTENDED. THIS FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR PROJECTS TO SPECIFICALLY IMPROVE ACCESS FOR HUNTING, FISHING AND OTHER FORMS OF OUTDOOR RECREATION ON THESE FEDERAL PUBLIC LANDS. I HAVE DIRECTED FUNDS, $5 MILLION, WILL BE REDIRECTED TO MAKE PUBLIC LANDS PUBLIC AND PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED SUPPORT FOR RECREATIONAL ACCESS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:11:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS GOODE TO. -- IS AGREED TO. THE CLERK WILL READ THE NEXT AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:11:34 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHICH PURPOSE THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

  • 08:12:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHICH PURPOSE THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

  • 08:12:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    READ THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL PROCEED WITH THE NEXT PARAGRAPH.

  • 08:12:46 PM

    THE CLERK

    STATES FISH AND WILDLIFE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT , REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL…

    STATES FISH AND WILDLIFE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT , REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013.

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  • 08:12:55 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 08:13:00 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:13:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:13:21 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS. I RISE TO STRIP A…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS. I RISE TO STRIP A DANGEROUS RIDER FROM THIS BILL, A RIDER THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. THIS IS A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT AND I'M OFFERING IT WITH THE SUPPORT OF CONGRESSMAN THOMPSON AND CONGRESSMAN FITZPATRICK AND CONGRESSWOMAN HANABUSA. THE F.Y. 2012 BILL PASSED BY THE FULL COMMITTEE A FEW WEEKS AGO CONTAINS A DIRECT ATTACK. I OFFERED AN ATTEMPT TO STRIKE THE PROVISION, BUT THE FULL COMMITTEE REJECTED IT. THE PROVISION WOULD BLOCK THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE THAT IS IN THE BILL FROM LISTING CANDIDATE SPECIES AS EITHER THREATENED OR ENDANGERED OR THE DESIGNATION OF THE CRITICAL HABITAT NECESSARY FOR SPECIES' RECOVERY. THESE LISTING ACTIVITIES ARE PRELIMINARY STEPS THAT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE MUST TAKE IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE RECOVERY PROCESS. AFTER THOSE STEPS ARE TAKEN, THEN THE HARD WORK BEGINS. WITHOUT THESE IMPORTANT PRELIMINARY STEPS OF LISTING AND CRITICAL HABITAT DESIGNATION, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DEVELOP APSONTIVE PARTICULARICALLY VALID AND DEFENSIVE PLAN FOR DECLINING SPECIES. THIS IS POSTPONING THE DAY OF RECKONING AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE BILL DOES PROVIDE FOR THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE TO DOWNGRADE THE PROTECTIONS TO SPECIES UNDER THE E.S.A. THE GOAL IS TO DELIST RECOVERED SPECIES. DELISTING IS THE REWARD AFTER RECOVERING THE SPECIES BUT WE CAN'T GET TO THE POINT OF DELISTING SPECIES WITHOUT LISTING THEM FIRST. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THESE RESTRICTIONS ON LISTING AND UPLIFTING AND THE DESIGNATION OF CRITICAL HABITAT. MANY CRITICS SAY THE LAW DOES NOT WORK. THE RECOVERY OF THE DELISTING OF THE BALD EAGLE AND THE AMERICAN ALGATOR IS A STRONG SUCCESS. IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THE GRAY WOLF IN THE NORTHERN ROCKIES HAS BEEN DELISTED IN TWO STATES AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE ANNOUNCED THE INTENTION TO DELIST THE WOLF IN THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES. OTHER LISTINGS HAVE MADE RECOVERIES. IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, I'M GLAD TO REPORT THAT WE ARE SEING SIGNS OF HEALTHY RECOVER FOR THE E.S.A. LISTED SALMON, ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THE DELISTING WILL OCCUR. THESE EXAMPLES SHOW US THE SUCCESS OF THE E.S.A., A LAW, BY THE WAY, THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT. . IT IS NAIVE TO THINK THAT A QUICK TURNAROUND IS EASY WHEN IT TOOK DECADES IF NOT CENTURIES FOR A SPECIES TO DECLINE. ALSO IT TAKES A LONGER TIME FOR LONG LOOP SPECIES. CURRENTLY THERE ARE ABOUT 250 SPECIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR E.S.A. PROTECTION. OF THAT TOTAL THERE ARE JUST UNDER 30 SPECIES THAT ARE POISED FOR LISTING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE SPENDING PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL WOULD BLOCK FURTHER ACTIVITY TO PROTECT THESE DECLINING SPECIES AND REMEMBER, IF YOU DELAY LISTING TOO LONG, A SPECIES WILL GO EXTINCT. THUS MAKING A RECOVERY IMPOSSIBLE. AND THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE CALL IN THE EXTINCTION WRITER. THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS EVER WRITTEN. RECOVERING SPECIES IS HARD, OFTEN LONG WORK, BUT IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT CANNOT BE DISMISSED LIKE THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATION BILL ATTEMPTS TO DO. I KNOW THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO DRASTICALLY REFORM THE E.S.A., BUT IT WOULD BE A SOUNDER PATH TO DO SUCH A REFORM THROUGH THE AUTHORIZATION PROCESS, RATHER THAN ACCOMPLISHING THE GOAL WITH A FEW LINES IN THE APPROPRIATION BILL. AND I SEE THAT THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE IS HERE AND HE HAS PLEDGED TO GET TO WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR. IN CLOSING I WILL POINT OUT THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY FORMER DIRECTORS OF THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WHO HAVE SERVED UNDER PRESIDENT NIXON, FORD, CARTER, THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH AND BILL CLINTON. IT IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY SEVERAL BULLET GROUPS, INCLUDING THE ISAAC WALTON LEAGUE AND TROUT UNLIMITED. SO I URGE SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:18:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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    LAST WORD IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

  • 08:18:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    AMENDMENT OF MY GOOD FRIEND FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS.

  • 08:18:28 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I RESPECT WHERE MY FRIEND IS TRYING TO GO, BUT NOT ONLY DOES THIS…

    I RESPECT WHERE MY FRIEND IS TRYING TO GO, BUT NOT ONLY DOES THIS AMENDMENT NOT GET US THERE, IT'S DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS. DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS. LET ME EXPLAIN WHY. SINCE THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION IN RESPONSE TO LAWSUITS AND COURT ORDERS THAT WERE CRIPPLING THE AGENCY'S BUDGET, SINCE THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION THERE HAS BEEN A STATUTORY CAP ON HOW MUCH THE AGENCY IS PERMITTED TO SPEND ON E.S.A. LISTINGS. IT'S BEEN A STATUTORY CAP IN PLACE SINCE THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. A CAP ON CRITICAL HABITAT SPENDING WAS ADDED IN 2002. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REQUESTED NEW CAPS FOR PETITIONS AND FOREIGN SPECIES LISTED IN 2012. IN SHORT, SUPPORT FOR E.S.A. FUNDING CAPS HAS BEEN -- HAS HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN CONGRESS AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND WAS IN PLACE WHEN THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON WROTE THE INTERIOR BILL AND WHEN THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA WROTE THE INTERIOR BILL. THOSE SPENDING CAPS WERE IN PLACE. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO DO AWAY WITH FUNDING CAPS ALTOGETHER. AND GIVES THE GREEN LIGHT TO THOSE THAT HAVE MADE A LIVING SUING FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE. AS A RESULT THE LITIGANTS WILL ACT, THE COURTS WILL ACT AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICES' ENTIRE OPERATING BUDGET WILL BE AT RISK OF BEING RAIDED IN ORDER TO FUND COURT-ORDERED MANDATES TO LIST SPECIES AND DESIGNATE CRITICAL HABITAT. THE SERVICE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RAID OTHER FUNDS FROM ITS RESOURCE MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTS WHICH IS ALREADY $146 MILLION OR 12% DECREASED IN THIS BUDGET. HAVING SAID THAT THE HEART OF THE ISSUE ISN'T ABOUT FUNDING. IT'S ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ENG DANE DOCTOR ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS -- THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS BROKEN AND IN NEED OF REVISION. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 2,000 SPECIES LISTED. 21 RECOVERED. 2,000 LISTED, 21 RECOVERED. AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT HAS BECOME NOT SO MUCH ABOUT SAVING SPECIES AS IT HAS BEEN ABOUT CONTROLLING LAND AND WATER. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE THE FUZZY AND WARM ANIMALS THAT WE WANT TO SAVE. NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THE SLICK-SPOTTED PEPPER GRASS, ENDANGERED. NOBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT THE SIX-SPOTTED PEPPER GRASS EXCEPT THAT IT'S LISTED AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOES? IT PREVENTS CATTLE GRAZING ON PUBLIC LANDS. AND IS USED TO PREVENT CATTLE GRAZING ON PUBLIC LANDS AND MOVE CATTLE PRODUCERS OFF OF PUBLIC LANDS. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT THE SLICK-SPOTTED PEPPER GRASS IS REALLY LISTED. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. WHEN YOU START USING WHAT WAS AN ACT THAT EVERYONE IN BIPARTISAN, ALMOST UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE WAS A GOOD ACT. THE INTENT OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO DO IT. WE NEED TO PROTECT SPECIES THAT ARE ENDANGERED. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S BEING USED FOR TODAY AND YOU CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO THE TABLE, THE STAKEHOLDERS, TO DO A RE-AUTHORIZATION BILL BECAUSE THERE ARE GROUPS THAT LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS. THEY WANT TO CONTROL LAND AND WATER BY USING THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. HOW DO YOU GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THEM THAT WE NEED TO DO A RE-AUTHORIZATION? THE ONLY WAY I CAN THINK OF IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS HAS BEEN UNAUTHORIZED FOR 20 YEARS. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY WRITERS IN THIS BILL THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, THIS IS A POLICY WRITER THAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO ADD. IT'S AN UNAUTHORIZED PROGRAM. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTINUED TO FUND IT FOR 20 YEARS, THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND WE NEED STAKEHOLDERS TO COME TO THE TABLE, TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND WRITE A NEW AUTHORIZATION. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. IT IS A SHOT ACROSS THE BOUGH. THERE ARE 58 I BELIEVE, 56 OR 58 PROGRAMS IN THIS BILL THAT THE AUTHORIZATION HAS EXPIRED. SOMEHOW WE NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS AROUND HERE. IT'S AUTHORIZATION THEN APPROPRIATION. NOT AUTHORIZATION, EXPIRED APPROPRIATION AND APPROPRIATION AND APPROPRIATION AND APPROPRIATION. THE ONLY WAY THAT THINGS KEEP GOING ON. WE ARE TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE. WILL YOU FIND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF RE-AUTHORIZATION OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. BUT I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS DANGEROUS AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD UNDERMINE THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE'S BUDGET BECAUSE IT WOULD LIFT THE CAPS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AND FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WOULD HAVE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE BUT THAN TO RAID THEIR ACCOUNTS IN ORDER TO FUND COURT ORDERS, SUITS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD COME ALONG. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:23:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 08:23:31 PM

    MR. MORAN

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 08:23:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 08:23:35 PM

    MR. MORAN

    GOING TO WAIT UNTIL OTHER SPEAKERS SPOKE, BUT I FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO…

    GOING TO WAIT UNTIL OTHER SPEAKERS SPOKE, BUT I FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION HERE WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND TO REMIND HIM, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THIS BILL INCLUDES FUNDING FOR A MULTITUDE OF EXPIRED AUTHORIZATIONS. THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT IS AN -- ISN'T AUTHORIZED. BUT YOU'RE FUNDING THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT BECAUSE YOU LIKE THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT. THE GRAZING PROGRAM ISN'T AUTHORIZED. OIL AND GAS ISN'T AUTHORIZED.

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  • 08:24:09 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 08:24:12 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE GENTLEMAN BRINGS UP THE POINT I TRIED TO MAKE. THIS IS A SHOT ACROSS…

    THE GENTLEMAN BRINGS UP THE POINT I TRIED TO MAKE. THIS IS A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW. ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS NEED TO BE RE-AUTHORIZED AND WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE. THAT'S IT. I MEAN, THIS GOES ACROSS THE HEART OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.

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  • 08:24:30 PM

    MR. MORAN

    PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS. YOU COULD HAVE PICKED ANY NUMBER OF PROGRAMS…

    PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS. YOU COULD HAVE PICKED ANY NUMBER OF PROGRAMS BUT YOU LIKE THOSE SO -- IN FACT SOME OF THEM YOU'VE INCREASED, FUNDING FOR GRAZING SUBSIDIES, FUNDING FOR OIL AND GAS SUBSIDIES. BUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THE POOR SPECIES WHO ARE IN DANGER OF EXTINCTION, THEY GET TARGETED. THEY'RE THE ONES YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF. YOU KNOW, NOT ALLOWING LISTINGS OF THE DESIGNATION OF EVEN THE CRITICAL HABITAT THAT WILL PROTECT ENDANGERED SPECIES DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT SO MANY PLANT AND ANIMAL SPECIES ARE AT RISK OF EXTINCTION. THERE ARE 260 SPECIES THAT ARE IN DANGER OF EXTINCTION. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROTECT THEM. THE LACK OF CRITICAL HABITAT DESIGNATION NOT ONLY HURTS THOSE SPECIES AT RISK BUT IT LEAVES IN LIMBO LAND OWNERS AND BUSINESSES THAT NEED DECISIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE PLANS. WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT UNCERTAINTY AND HOW THANK BAD UNCERTAINTY IS. THIS CREATES -- HOW BAD UNCERTAINTY IS. THIS CREATES UNCERTAINTY. THE TWIST OF IRONY, THE BILL ALLOWS FUNDING TO BE USED TO DELIST SPECIES OR RECLASSIFY THEM FROM ENDANGERED TO THREATENED, TO DELIST THEM OR DOWNLIST THEM, BUT NO FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR LISTINGS OR TO RECLASSIFY THEM FROM THREATENED TO ENDANGER OORKS EVEN IF THEY BECOME ENDANGER -- ENDANGER, EVEN IF THEY BECOME ENDANGERED, WE CAN'T CLASSIFY THEM AS ENDANGERED, WE CAN ONLY DOWNLIST THEM. IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET. A ONE-WAY STREET TO LESS PROTECTION. I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AUTHORIZED. MAYBE WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE WHY IT'S NOT BEING RE-AUTHORIZED. BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DE-AUTHORIZE IT. THE FACT IS THAT THIS IS LEGISLATION IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL BASICALLY. I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT. BUT WE MAKE THESE POOR ENDANGERED SPECIES THAT ARE AT RISK OF EXTINCTION BEAR THE COST OF CONGRESS' FAILURE TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. OF COURSE I SUPPORT THE DICKS AMENDMENT. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE 260 SPECIES AT RISK OF EXTINCTION BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF SPECIES THAT -- WHOSE VERY EXISTENCE IS AT RISK AND WE DON'T KNOW EITHER THE ROLE THEY PLAY IN THE ECOLOGY OF OUR PLANET, THERE'S SO MANY SPECIES THAT WE'RE ONLY NOW LEARNING -- FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE MANY THAT CATCH INSECTS, YOU KNOW, MOSQUITOS OR WHATEVER THAT MAINTAIN THE POPULATION OF OTHER SPECIES. I DO BELIEVE THAT EVERY SPECIES HAS SOME ROLE TO PLAY IN THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE ECOLOGY OF THIS PLANET. WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT THAT ROLE IS BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME IDEA THAT THEY'RE THERE FOR A PURPOSE AND WHILE THEY'RE THERE FOR A PURPOSE IT SEEMS TO ME, HEY, WE HAVE A PURPOSE, A RESPONSIBILITY OF ENABLING THAT SPECIES TO BE SUSTAINED ON THIS FRAGILE PLANET. AND TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO -- OUTPERFORM OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THAT WE CAN'T ACT RESPONSIBLY TOWARD THESE SPECIES IS IRRESPONSIBLE. IT REALLY IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THIS CONGRESS. SO I VERY STRONGLY SUPPORT THE DICKS AMENDMENT. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GIVE SPECIES A BREAK, GET THIS LANGUAGE OUT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 08:28:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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  • 08:28:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 08:28:36 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME MAKE ONE POINT. THIS DEBATE IS…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME MAKE ONE POINT. THIS DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. I HAVE TO RISE AND OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MY GOOD FRIEND FROM WASHINGTON STATE. I THINK THAT CHAIRMAN SIMPSON HAS BROUGHT TO THE HOUSE FLOOR A BILL THAT PRIORITIZES FUNDING TO ENSURE THAT THE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ARE MET IN A BROADER SENSE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THIS BILL FOCUSES ON FUNDING THE ACTUAL RECOVERY OF SPECIES. IT DOES THIS BY ONE CONTINUING -- BY, ONE, CONTINUING FUNDS FOR RECOVERY ACTIVITIES AND DOING THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS BILL HAS -- THAT THE E.S.A. HAS NOT BEEN RE-AUTHORIZED FOR 23 YEARS, NOT 20 YEARS, 23 YEARS. AND, TWO, BY LIMITING FUNDS FOR LAWSUIT-DRIVEN NEW LISTINGS AND HABITAT DESIGNATIONS. THIS BILL SEND AS CLEAR MESSAGE AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO SAID THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND IMPROVED. IT NEEDS TO BE AUTHORIZED. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN 23 YEARS SINCE THIS BILL WAS RE-AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS. A PERSON CAN BE BORN AND GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT HAS PASSED SINCE CONGRESS LAST ACTED TO MAKE SERIOUS, RESPONSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS LAW. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON ACKNOWLEDGED ME ON THE FLOOR HERE EARLIER AND I WILL TELL HIM THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS JURISDICTION ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, I CAN INFORM THE HOUSE THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE CONDUCTING ROBUST OVERSIGHT OF THE NEED TO UPDATE THIS LAW IN THE COMING MONTHS. THE CURRENT LAW IS FAILING TO TRULY RECOVER SPECIES WHILE IT FREQUENTLY HAMSTRINGS JOBS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY LIKE THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO MENTIONED. . WE WILL EXAMINE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. AND IN MY VIEW, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, THE REAL OBSTACLE TO IMPROVING E.S.A., A NUMBER OF GROUPS ARE HEAVILY INVESTED IN LITIGATION MINDSET. A LITIGATION MINDSET THAT WANTS LAW SUITS OVER IMPROVING THE ACT. THESE GROUPS HAVE FILED LAWSUITS AGAINST FISH AND WILDLIFE, NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIES. THIS BILL UNDER THE CHAIRMAN'S LEADERSHIP EFFECTIVELY HALTS THESE LAWSUITS BY LIMITING SPENDING ON NEW LISTINGS OR HABITAT DESIGNATIONS AND THIS WILL WILL ALLOW GETTING BACK TO WORK RATHER THAN RESPONDING TO COURT CASES. BOTH FUNDING AND PERSONNEL WILL BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE REAL WORK OF BRINGING SPECIES BACK FROM THE BRINK. BY STRIKING THIS PROVISION, THE DISCS' AMENDMENT WOULD RE-OPEN THE LITIGATION PROCESS. THE SAME GROUPS THAT FILED THESE LAWSUITS ENDORSED THIS AMENDMENT. AS WE SPEAK, THEY ARE WAGING EXPENSIVE CAMPAIGNS ON BEHALF OF THIS AMENDMENT. BECAUSE THEY PROFIT FROM THESE LAWSUITS, TO ME, IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO GO TO COURT, GET A SETTLEMENT AND GET PAID THAN THEY ARE ABOUT RECOVERING SPECIES. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. THIS BILL STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE BY DIRECTING FUNDING TO ACTUAL RECOVERY OF SPECIES AND STRIKES THE BALANCE BY BRINGING A HALT TO LITIGATION TO NEW LISTINGS AND HABITAT DESIGNATIONS. CONGRESS CAN DO ITS JOB TO UPDATE AND MODERNIZE THE E.S.A. IT'S TIME WE TAKE A THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS OF THE INADEQUACIES OF THIS CURRENT LAW. INADEQUACIES ARE ABUSED THROUGH LAWSUITS RATHER THAN SERVING AS A TRUE CONDUIT FOR RESOURCE RECOVERY. AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID VERY WELL IN HIS REMARKS, THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR THE STAKE HOLDERS TO TRY AND COME AND WORK OUT THE DIFFERENCES OR UPDATE THIS LAW IF CONGRESS KEEPS KICKING THE CAN AHEAD. THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS ALL ABOUT. I CAN'T IMAGINE, I CAN'T IMAGINE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL SHOULD BE IN PLACE, YET WHEN THERE IS A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HERE IN THE WASHINGTON, D.C., AREA, LIKE THE WOODROW WILSON BRIDGE, THEY WAIVE THE ACT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY, THOSE OF US IMPACTED BY THIS ACT, GET A CHANCE TO WAIVE IT. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN UPDATE. IT'S TIME TO DO IT AND AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE WHO HAS JURISDICTION ON THAT, I'M GLAD TO WORK WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON THIS. I WILL WORK WITH ANYBODY ON THIS. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE SPECIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA SAID. BUT LET'S DO IT IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS SPECIES AND DOES NOT HARM THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAKE A LIVING FROM THE LAND AND/OR THE WATER. AND I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 08:33:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 08:34:05 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE COMMITTEE RISE.

  • 08:34:07 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED.…

    THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 08:34:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

  • 08:34:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING…

    SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584, DIRECTS ME TO REPORT THAT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 08:34:45 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA RISE?

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  • 08:35:01 PM

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    SEND TO THE DESK A PRIVILEGED REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON RULES FOR…

    SEND TO THE DESK A PRIVILEGED REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON RULES FOR FILING UNDER THE RULE.

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  • 08:35:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE TITLE.

  • 08:35:12 PM

    THE CLERK

    RESOLUTION 372, RESOLUTION FOR PROVIDING CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL 2587 TO…

    RESOLUTION 372, RESOLUTION FOR PROVIDING CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL 2587 TO PROHIBIT THE LABOR RELATIONS BOARD TO CLOSE, RELOCATE OR TRANSFER ANY EMPLOYMENT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.

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  • 08:35:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE CALENDAR AND ORDERED PRINTED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE…

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE CALENDAR AND ORDERED PRINTED. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 363 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THAT THE HOUSE AND THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA KINDLY RESUME THE CHAIR.

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  • 08:35:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR…

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 08:36:07 PM

    THE CLERK

    MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND…

    MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR SEPTEMBER 30, 2012 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 08:36:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ THROUGH PAGE 9 LINE 12.

  • 08:36:28 PM

    MR. LANGEVIN

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 08:36:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 08:36:35 PM

    MR. LANGEVIN

    SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT INTRODUCED BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MR. DICKS.…

    SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT INTRODUCED BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MR. DICKS. THIS BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, I BELIEVE IS CRITICAL TO RESTORING THE LONG TIME COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING OUR SPECIES FROM EXTINCTION. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS CORRECT THAT SO MANY OF THESE SPECIES, OUR PLANET DEPENDS ON AND IT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT PROTECTS OUR ENVIRONMENT. THE LANGUAGE IN THE UNDERLYING BILL TO PREVENT ANY FUNDS BEING USED TO DELIST SPECIES IS SHORT SIGHTED AND PUN ISSUES A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR PRESERVING CRITICAL HABITATS AND THIS LANGUAGE IS CRITICAL OF THE HARMFUL POLICIES INCLUDED IN THIS BILL. THE BROADER BILL IN HOW IT FAILS TO CREATE JOBS, MY HOME STATE OF RHODE ISLAND, OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE CONTINUES TO BE THE THIRD HIGHEST IN THE NATION AT 10.8%. RIGHT NOW, WE NEED INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR RESOURCES TO CREATE JOBS AND MODERNIZE OUR COMMUNITY. NEW ENGLAND IS HOME TO THE OLDEST INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NATION. IT ESTIMATED THAT OUR DRINKING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS WHAT WILL COST OVER $400 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND OUR STATE HAS 1.16 BILLION BILLION IN UNSPENT WASTE WATER NEEDS. THIS BILL SLASHES BOTH THE CLEAN WATER AND DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND BY 55% AND 40% BELOW LAST YEAR'S LEVEL. IN THIS TIME OF CONTENTIOUS DEBATE ABOUT OUR DEBT AND FUTURE SECURITY, I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT THE BURDEN THAT ARE PLACED ON THE NEXT GENERATION. THIS BILL WOULD REPEAL AND BLOCK IMPLEMENTATION OF TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT LAWS THAT KEEP OUR ENVIRONMENT SAFE, CLEAN WATER AND CLEAN AIR ACT. NOW WHAT CHANCE ARE WE GIVING OUR CHILDREN TO GROW UP AND FLOURISH IF WE CAN'T PROTECT THE RIVERS AND BAYS THEY SWIM IN AND WATER THAT THEY DRINK. I'M DISAPPOINT THAT HAD THIS BILL BLOCKS THE E.P.A. FROM FINALIZING A RULE REDUCING EMISSIONS OF MERCURY FROM POWER PLANTS. LAST WEEK, MEMBERS WERE DOWN HERE ON THE FLOOR SPEAKING ABOUT THE TINY AMOUNT OF MERCURY IN LIGHT BULBS, BUT TODAY, THE SAME MEMBERS ARE BLOCKING A RULE THAT WOULD KEEP OUR FISHERIES HEALTHY AND SAFE FOR CONSUMPTION IN ADDITION TO PREVENTING 17,000 PREMATURE DEATHS EACH YEAR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE CAN BE OPPOSED TO A SMALL AMOUNT OF MERCURY LAST WEEK AND TODAY HAVE NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM, WITH MUCH LARGER QUANTITIES OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE BEING ALLOWED TO ENDANGER PUBLIC HEALTH. NOW LAST WEEK, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO FIGHT AGAINST THE 80% CUT IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, THE LOWEST AMOUNT IN THE 45-YEAR HISTORY. AS MANY OF US ARE WELL AWARE, HUNTING, FISHING, CAMPING AND OTHER RECREATION ACTIVITIES ARE A GREAT BENEFIT TO OUR ECONOMY, AND SUPPORTS 6.5 MILLION JOBS. NOW THESE NUMBERS BEAR OUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY HOME STATE OF RHODE ISLAND. 163,000 SPORTSMEN AND 436,000 WILDLIFE WATCHES HAVE RECREATION IN RHODE ISLAND. WE HAVE INCREDIBLE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGES WHICH HAVE BEEN PROTECTED BY THE FUNDING WHICH FAMILIES IN MY DISTRICT ARE OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY PARKS, TRAILS, OPEN SPACE AT NO COSTS DURING THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES. MR. SPEAKER, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL REFLECTS OUR VALUES OR OUR SHARED DESIRE TO PRESERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL NATION. I BELIEVE WE CAN AND OUGHT TO DO BETTER FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS AND FOR OUR CHILDREN. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS BILL AND BRING A BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT PRESERVES OUR ENVIRONMENT, CREATES NEW JOBS AND PROTECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO FUTURE GENERATIONS. I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 08:41:08 PM

    MR. DICKS

    AND COVERED IT, ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE IS $688…

    AND COVERED IT, ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE IS $688 BILLION WASTE WATER BACKLOG DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. WE SHOULD BE PUTTING PEOPLE TO WORK ON THOSE KINDS OF PROJECT. I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN BEING HERE LATE IN THE EVENING TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:41:32 PM

    MR. LANGEVIN

    I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FOR…

    I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FOR SPONSORING THIS AMENDMENT AND FOR HIS WORK ON THE BROADER BILL. THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO BRING -- TO DEFEAT THE BROADER BILL HERE AND BRING A BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT REALLY REFLECTS OUR VALUES. AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON STATE FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:41:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 08:42:01 PM

    MR. CONAWAY

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. AS HAS BEEN SPOKEN EARLIER, THE ENDANGERED…

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. AS HAS BEEN SPOKEN EARLIER, THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS BROKEN. AS A TOOL TO PROTECT ANIMALS AND PLANTS IS IN A STRAIT JACKET. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE STORIES OF TWO SPECIES, THE WATER SNAKE AND LIZARD. THE WATER SNAKE WAS THREATEND ON SEPTEMBER 3, 1986. THE CITIZENS OF TEXAS HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CONDUCT SURVEYS. AND TODAY, THERE IS LITTLE QUESTION THAT THE SNAKE'S POPULATION IS STABLE AND EXISTS IN FAR GREATER NUMBERS THAN THE ORIGINAL LISTING. BECAUSE OF THIS RESEARCH, THE SERVICE PROPOSED DELISTING THE SNAKE ON JULY 8, 2008. THIS DELISTING SHOULD BE A VICTORY TO THE SERVICE AND THE SUPPORTERS OF THENING DANGERED SPECIES ACT AND HAS COLLAPSED IN GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY. DURING FEDERALLY MANDATED STUDY, RESEARCHERS CAUGHT SNAKES. THE DATE AVE COLLECTED. AT THAT TIME, FISH AND WILDLIFE DECLINED TO DELIST AND REQUESTED BY ABILITY STUDY TO BE REQUESTED. EIGHT YEARS LATER, THE SERVICE ISSUED A DELISTING PROPOSAL AFTER WHICH HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED. UNFORTUNATELY AS OF TODAY, THE SERVICE HAS NOT COMPLETED ACTION ON ITS PROPOSAL. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THE DELISTING RULE IS HUNG UP IN THE LAWYERS AND SOLICITOR'S OFFICE. IT IS INEXCUSEABLE THAT THEY INSIST. IT HAS CONTINUED TO INCLUSION ON THE LIST, REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT OF FEDERAL AND STATE AND LOCAL TAX DOLLARS WHEN OUR COMMITMENT IS UNRESTRAINED AND DOLLARS ARE WASTED BECAUSE THE FAILURE TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON OUR OWN RECOMMENDATION. BEYOND THE DOLLARS WASTED ON PROTECTING THE SPECIES, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT THIS NONDECISION HAS ON THE PUBLIC TRUST BY PROPOSING AND FAILING TO DELIST A SPECIES, THE SERVICES UNDERMINING WHEN IT HANDS DOWN PAINFUL MANDATES TO PROTECT A SPECIES ON THE BRINK OF. AND IT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO LAND OWNERS AND UNION UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A SPECIES THAT HAS SCIENCE BEHIND THE SCIENCE. IN TEXAS THERE IS A HANDFUL OF PLACES AND THE SERVICE IS UNABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS HOW MANY LIZARDS EXIST AND TO SUPPORT A VIABLE POPULATION. THE LIZARD IS ONE OF THE LOWER 48. ITS INCLUSION WOULD DRAMATICALLY CURTAIL OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION ACROSS THE BASIN. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE DECIDES HOW TO PROCEED. THE OIL PRODUCERS OF THIS LAND PROVIDE LIVELIHOOD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE TEXAS UNIVERSITY AND USED BY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. THE SERVICE HAS PROPOSED CLOSING THIS LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT BASED ON TOO LITTLE SCIENCE AND CONCERN FOR THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES. THE DELAY IN DELISTING THE SNAKE AND THE LIZARD IS DAMAGING THE SERVICES' CREDIBILITY AS A STEWARD. FAIR OR NOT, THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS IMPLEMENTED BY FISH AND WILDLIFE IS VIEWED IN MY DISTRICT IS TO BEAT UP DISFAVORED INDUSTRY BECAUSE THE SCIENCE IS OVEN SHODDY AND SCIENCE IS NOT DELISTED. I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS THE BEST SHORT-TERM CHANCE TO CORRECT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. IT WILL ALLOW ONE FULL YEAR TO CLEAR OUT THE BACKLOG. THE SERVICE CAN FOCUS ON THE RECOVERIES OF THE SPECIES UNDER ITS CARE. I HOPE THE SERVICE TAKES THIS YEAR OFF TO PAY PARTICULAR TONINGS TO THE LIZARD AND UNDERSTAND THIS ANIMAL BEFORE IT CLOSES SOME SITES DOWN IN TEXAS. MR. SPEAKER, I OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT LOCKS IN FAILED STATUS QUO FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND COMMUNITIES NO RELIEF FROM THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND I YIELD BACK. .

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  • 08:46:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 08:47:03 PM

    MR. SABLAN

    I RISE TO EXPRESS DEEP CONCERN OVER THE ALLOCATIONS IN H.R. 2584, THE…

    I RISE TO EXPRESS DEEP CONCERN OVER THE ALLOCATIONS IN H.R. 2584, THE INTERIOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL FOR 2012. TO BEGIN, THE BILL CUTS $1.7 MILLION FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE IN THE UNITED STATES TERRITORIES. THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY PAID BIG DIVIDENDS IN THE ISLANDS. THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS WERE AWARDED $1.2 MILLION IN TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO DEVELOP GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY. WE PAY UP TO 40 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BUY EXPENSIVE FOREIGN OIL TO POWER OUR GENERATORS. THESE FUNDS ARE HELPING TO DEVELOP OUR OWN DOMESTIC ENERGY RESOURCES AND CUTTING THESE FUNDS SENDS US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BACK INTO THE THE ARMS OF FOREIGN OIL -- BACK INTO THE ARMS OF FOREIGN OIL INTERESTS. I DO APPRECIATE THE SMALL FUND INCREASES. I AM DISAPPOINTED HOWEVER THAT THE BILL TARGETS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FOR CUTS. THE RANKING MEMBER OF FISHERIES, WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND OTHER COMMITTEES WHICH HAVE JURISDICTION, I AM ALSO TROUBLED OVER THE ALLOCATIONS IN THIS BILL WHICH WOULD BE DEVASTATING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOR THE PRESERVATION OF AMERICA'S NATURAL HERITAGE. H.R. 2584 PROVIDES INADEQUATE FUNDING FOR THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AT LEVELS 21% BELOW FISCAL YEAR 2011 AND 30% BELOW FISCAL -- THE PRESIDENT'S FISCAL YEAR 2012 REQUEST. THE BILL CUTS PROVIDE A MEAGER $22 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE STATE AND TRIBAL WILDLIFE GRANTS PROGRAM, 64% PLO FISCAL YEAR 2011 AND 77% BELOW FISCAL YEAR 2012 PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT MAKES SMALL INVESTMENTS NOW TO AVOID LARGE EXPENSES LATER. IT PROVIDES MONEY TO STATES AND TAKES CONSERVATION ACTIONS TO STABILIZE DECLINING FISH AND WILDLIFE POPULATIONS NOW AND THIS HELPS AVOID ENDANGERED SPECIES EXTINCTION LATER. IN MY DISTRICTS THESE GRANTS HELP IMPLEMENT A WILDLIFE ACTION PLAN, CONSERVING WILDLIFE AND CREATING JOBS. THE BILL ALSO CUTS THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE COOPERATIVE LANDSCAPE CONSERVATION AND SCIENCE PROGRAM 35% BELOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 LEVELS AND 47% BELOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 PRESIDENT'S BUDGET. THIS PROGRAM SUPPORTS THE WORK OF FEDERAL, STATE, TRIBAL AND LOCAL PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CLIMATE IMPACTS IN WILDLIFE AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL SCALES. THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS AND OTHER AREAS ARE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. WE FACE THE IMPACTS OF SEA LEVEL RISE, OCEAN ACIDIFICATION AND INCREASING INTENSITY. WE NEED THIS PROGRAM TO DEVELOP SCIENCE-BASED TOOLS AND SOLUTIONS TO CONSERVE NATURAL RESOURCES AND HELP US ADAPT TO THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS COMING TO US. H.R. 2584 CONTINUES AND ALSO CUTS FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM TO 7% BELOW FISCAL YEAR 2011 AND 9% BELOW THE 2012 REQUEST. THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM IS THE FINEST WORK OF PROTECTED LANDS AND WATERS. WE HAVE REFUGE IN EVERY STATE AND NEARLY EVERY TERRITORY INCLUDING THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS. THESE REFUGES CONSERVE OUR FISH AND WILDLIFE RESOURCES BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A HUGE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE VISIT REFUGES EACH YEAR TO HUNT, FISH AND OBSERVE WILDLIFE. THE REFUGE SYSTEM GENERATES $1.7 BILLION IN SALES FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND CREATES NEARLY 27,000 JOBS ANNUALLY. EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IN THE REFUGE SYSTEM BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EARNS ABOUT $4 FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND WE CAN ASSUME EVERY DOLLAR WE CUT MEANS $4 LESS FOR OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES. I HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION, H.R. 2236, THAT WOULD GENERATE FUNDS FOR THE REFUGE SEPARATE FROM THE APPROPRIATIONS OF THE SALE OF POSTAL STAMPLESS. BUT THIS IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR MONEY BEING CUT IN H.R. 2584. ALSO CUT IS THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND WHICH IS USED TO ACQUIRE LANDS AND CONSERVATION EASEMENTS FROM WILLING SELLERS AND LAND OWNERS TO PROVIDE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES AND CONNECTIVITY WITHIN REFUGES. FISHERY, WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND WE HEARD FROM STAKEHOLDERS AS DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE AND THE NATIONAL RIFFLE ASSOCIATION WILL RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND WHICH IS GENERATED BY OFFSHORE OIL AND GAS DRISKING -- DRILLING REVENUES. H.R. 2584 PROVIDES ONLY $15 MILLION TO THIS PROGRAM, 73 BELOW FISCAL YEAR 2011 LEVELS AND 89% BELOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 PRESIDENTIAL REQUEST. I STRONGLY OPPOSE H.R. 2584 WHICH ROLLS BACK NECESSARY FUNDING TO SUPPORT HUNTERS, FISHERMEN, RECREATIONISM AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHO DEPEND ON ENVIRONMENTAL FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND WHICH UNDERMINES UNDERGOING CONSERVATION, PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION FOR ALL AMERICANS AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:52:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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  • 08:52:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT WHICH I HAVE CO-SPONSORED THAT…

    RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT WHICH I HAVE CO-SPONSORED THAT WOULD REMOVE A WRITER FROM THIS BILL THAT WOULD SERIOUSLY COMPROMISE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE LANDMARK ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WHICH WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO IN 1973.

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  • 08:52:43 PM

    MR. FITZPATRICK

    THE EXTINCTION WRITING IN THIS BILL IS A SWEEPING ACTION, IT WOULD PREVENT…

    THE EXTINCTION WRITING IN THIS BILL IS A SWEEPING ACTION, IT WOULD PREVENT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FROM SPENDING ANY MONEY ON LISTING NEW PLANTS AND ANIMALS UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, DESIGNATING CRITICAL HABITAT OR UPGRADING SPECIES FROM THREATENED TO ENDANGERED. AT THE SAME TIME THE BILL MAPE DANES FUNDING FOR -- MAINTAINS FUNDING FOR DELISTING SPECIES, CREATESING AN UNCOMPLETE AND LOP SIDED AND DANGEROUS SPECIES POLICY. MR. SPEAKER, MY CONSTITUENTS IN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPORT THE IMPORTANT MISSION OF THE E.S.A. AND IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE WHY. PRESERVING ANIMALS AND PLANTS BRINGS COUNTLESS BENEFITS TO PEOPLE AND THE LOSS OF A SPECIES CAN HAVE DANGEROUS AND EXPENSIVE CONSEQUENCES IN THE FUTURE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY RECENTLY ESTIMATED THAT THE LOSS OF BATS IN NORTH AMERICA WOULD COST AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS NEARLY $4 BILLION PER YEAR INCLUDING THOSE IN MY DISTRICT. WE ALSO NEVER KNOW WHICH SPECIES OF PLANTS AND ANIMALS MAY BE IMPORTANT IN DEVELOPING LIFE-SAVING MEDICINES IN THE FUTURE. BUT THE E.S.A.'S PRIMARY SUCCESS TO DATE HAS BEEN TO PREVENT THE EXTINCTION OF HUNDREDS OF SPECIES INCLUDING THE AMERICAN ALLIGATOR, GRIZZLY BEAR AND THE GRAY WOLF. INDEED LESS THAN TWO DOZEN SPECIES HAVE GONE EXTINCT UNDER THE ACT AND MOST OF THESE SPECIES WERE ALREADY DOOMED TO EXTINCTION BY THE TIME THAT THEY WERE LISTED. PERHAPS THE MOST ICONIC AMONG THESE SPECIES SAVED BY THE ACT IS OUR NATIONAL SYMBOL, THE BALD EAGLE. ON JUNE 20, 1782, OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ADOPTED THE BALD EAGLE AS OUR NATIONAL EMBLEM. ON THE BACKS OF MANY OF OUR COINS WE SEE AN EAGLE WITHOUT SPREAD WINGS. ON THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES, ON THE SEAL OF THIS VERY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND IN MANY PLACES WHICH ARE EXPONENTENTS OF OUR NATION'S AUTHORITY WE SEE THE SAME EMBLEM. LIVING AS IT DOES IN THE TOPS OF LOFTY MOUNTAINS AND IN RIVER VALLIES, THE EAGLE REPRESENTS FREEDOM. HOWEVER BY THE MID 20TH CENTURY THE BALD EAGLE WAS SEVERELY THREATENED AND REDUCED TO JUST 400 NESTING PAIRS. BALD EAGLES WERE DECLARED AN ENDANGERED SPECIES IN 1967 AND THE LOWER -- IN THE LOWER 48 STATES UNDER A LESS COHESIVE, LESS EFFECTIVE ACT. THEN THE E.S.A. WAS SIGNED INTO LAW AND AS A RESULT OF THIS ON JULY 4, 1976 THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE OFFICIALLY LISTED THE BALD EAGLE AS A NATIONAL ENDANGERED SPECIES. AND THANKS TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE UPGRATED -- UPGRATED THE BALD EAGLE STATUS TO AND OFFICIALLY REMOVED IT FROM THE NATIONWIDE LIST IN 2007. TODAY AFTER DECADES OF CONSERVATION EFFORT, THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT REPORTS THAT THERE ARE SOME 10,000 NESTING PAYERS FOR US -- PAIRS FOR US AND FUTURE GENERATIONS TO CHERISH. BECAUSE IN LARGE PART OF THE E.S.A., MY CHILDREN HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE A BALD EAGLE IN ITS NATURAL HABITAT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL REMOVE THE FUNDING RESTRICTION ON THE LISTING AND LIMIT THE FUNDING TO WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON THESE ACTIVITIES IN RECENT YEARS. ADDITIONALLY THE OVERALL FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THE E.S.A. AND RELATED PROGRAMS OF $138 MILLION IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN IN PAST YEARS, INCLUDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2008. MR. SPEAKER, DECISIONS ABOUT WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE MADE BY SCIENTISTS, NOT BY POLITICIANS. PREVENTING LISTING IS NOT THE ANSWER. WE MUST ALLOW THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE TO DO THEIR JOB AND PROTECT SPECIES WHILE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF THIS CRUCIAL PROGRAM. AS I CLOSE I IMPLORE MY COLLEAGUES TO IMAGINE IF THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE HAD BEEN RESTRICTED FROM LISTING THE AMERICAN BALD EAGLE. THIS MAJESTIC CREATURE, WITHOUT CORRECTIVE MEASURES, WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST ONLY TO BOOKS AND TO OUR NATIONAL MEMORY. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT THE EXTINCTION OF FISH, PLANTS AND WILDLIFE BECAUSE ONCE THEY'RE GONE THEY'RE GONE FOREVER. WE CAN'T BRING THEM BACK. I URGE SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:57:05 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

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    MR. HASTINGS

    WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALD EAGLES AND IN OUR STATE THEY'RE AROUND AND I…

    WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALD EAGLES AND IN OUR STATE THEY'RE AROUND AND I WOULD INVITE THE GENTLEMAN TO COME TO WHERE I LIVE IN THE DESERT IN CENTRAL WASHINGTON WHERE FREQUENTLY IN THE FALL, I WON'T SAY FREQUENTLY, I WOULD SAY EVERY FALL AND WINTER WE SEE BALD EAGLES. THEY ARE TRULY A MAJESTIC BIRD. BUT THE POINT IS, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO -- I REALLY THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. THIS DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. THIS DEBATE HERE IS ABOUT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TOGETHER SO WE CAN MAKE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WORK IN A WAY THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY. SO THAT WE CAN REPEAT THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD, ALBEIT THE SUCCESSES ARE ONLY 0 SPECIES, BUT NEVERTHELESS -- 20 SPECIES, BUT NEVERTHELESS WE OUGHT TO BE WORKING THAT WAY RATHER THAN RESTRICTING AND HAVING RESTRICTIONS AS THE CURRENT ACT IS. SO I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. FRITZ FRITZ I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S REMARKS AND I --

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  • 08:58:41 PM

    MR. FITZPATRICK

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S REMARKS AND THE INVITATION --

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    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    CONSENT 30 SECONDS MORE FOR THE GENTLEMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE GENTLEMAN MAY PROCEED.

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    MR. FITZPATRICK

    I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION BY THE WAY TO WAY TO AMEND THE ACT IS IN…

    I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION BY THE WAY TO WAY TO AMEND THE ACT IS IN REGULAR ORDER IN THE COMMITTEE, NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.

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  • 08:59:02 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    MENTIONED IN MY REMARKS, WHEN I SPOKE AT, THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS THE…

    MENTIONED IN MY REMARKS, WHEN I SPOKE AT, THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS THE ATTEMPT OF THE COMMITTEE. SO I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 08:59:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

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    SAID THIS IS NOT THE PROPER VENUE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE ENCAGED SPECIES…

    SAID THIS IS NOT THE PROPER VENUE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE ENCAGED SPECIES ACT, THAT'S MY ARGUMENT TOO, I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FOR STAKE HOLDERS TO SIT DOWN IF WE CONTINUE TO KICK THE BALL AHEAD AND NOT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.

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  • 09:04:27 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    CHAIRMAN SAID,S THAT SHOT ACROSS THE BOW, NOT ONLY ON THIS BUT OTHER…

    CHAIRMAN SAID,S THAT SHOT ACROSS THE BOW, NOT ONLY ON THIS BUT OTHER AUTHORIZED PROGRAMS. THIS IS NOT -- WE'RE NOT PICKING ON THIS -- WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING --

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  • 09:04:39 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    MY TIME.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    THE GENTLEMAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE. MR.

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    MR. THOMPSON

    IT'S A SHOT AT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES AND YOU AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT…

    IT'S A SHOT AT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES AND YOU AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS WITH REGARD TO THE SALMON IN OUR DISTRICTS, SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMY, SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE ECOLOGY OF NOT ONLY OUR STATE BUT THE ECOLOGY OF -- WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND I SUGGEST THAT WE REMOVE THIS AND GET TO WORK, I DO YIELD.

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  • 09:05:13 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    SHARE THAT WITH THE SALMON. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE SALMON RUN COMING…

    SHARE THAT WITH THE SALMON. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE SALMON RUN COMING BACK IN GREATER NUMBER WHICH IS SUGGESTS THAT THE SPECIES IS BEING RECOVERED. AND YET WE ARE WAITING ON -- FOR A JUDGE TO MAKE A DECISION.

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  • 09:05:32 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    YOU YIELD BACK? REMEMBER, YOU'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SALMON ISSUE AND…

    YOU YIELD BACK? REMEMBER, YOU'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SALMON ISSUE AND HOW THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS OVER THE MATTER OF WATER THAT IF HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY FISH BECAUSE WITHOUT WATER, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO FISH.

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  • 09:05:51 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE GENTLEMAN. I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS…

    I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE GENTLEMAN. I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS -- IT'S BEEN 23 YEARS, 30 SECONDS TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 09:06:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE GENTLEMAN IS YIELDED 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? THE ARGUMENT IS NOT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES…

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? THE ARGUMENT IS NOT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT BUT ABOUT SITTING DOWN AND RE-AUTHORIZE AN ACT THAT'S NOT BEEN RE-AUTHORIZED SINCE 1980.

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  • 09:06:19 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    I ASK THAT WE DO IT IN THE AUTHORIZING BILL.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    WITH YOU, I SAID THAT IN MY OPENING REMARK THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON…

    WITH YOU, I SAID THAT IN MY OPENING REMARK THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON SAID THAT AS WELL AND I AGREE.

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  • 09:06:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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  • 09:06:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE DICKS-FITZPATRICK AMENDMENT. I VOTED FOR THIS SAME…

    RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE DICKS-FITZPATRICK AMENDMENT. I VOTED FOR THIS SAME LANGUAGE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I HEARD, WE ALL HEARD COMPELLING ARGUMENTS HERE TONIGHT ABOUT SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND AS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY STATED BY MR. THOMPSON AND A FEW OTHERS HERE TONIGHT, I AGREE WITH THOSE WHO SAID THE PROPER VENUE FOR THIS IS IN THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN CHAIRMAN HASTINGS THAT HE WOULD TAKE A THOUGHTFUL AND SINCERE LOOK AT THE ACT TO MAKE REFORMS AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THEY'RE NEEDED BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT.

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  • 09:07:24 PM

    MR. DENT

    AND AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL. I THINK OVERALL THIS…

    AND AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL. I THINK OVERALL THIS LEGISLATION, INTERIOR BILL, WHILE IT'S NOT EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY AND CERTAINLY FUNDING LEVELS MAY NOT BE WHERE SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE, CHAIRMAN SIMPSON HAS DONE A COMMENDABLE JOB PUTTING A BILL TOGETHER BUT I THINK THAT THIS LANGUAGE IN THE UNDERLYING BILL SHOULD BE STRICKEN AS PROPOSED BY MR. DICKS AND MR. FITZPATRICK. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:07:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WISCONSIN RISE?

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  • 09:07:53 PM

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    RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    FORMER CO-CHAIRS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMEN'S CAUCUS, I RISE IN…

    FORMER CO-CHAIRS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMEN'S CAUCUS, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE DICKS AMENDMENT AND IN OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL.

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  • 09:08:08 PM

    MR. KIND

    STRIP OUT A POLICY RIDER OF THE MAGNITUDE IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL. WE…

    STRIP OUT A POLICY RIDER OF THE MAGNITUDE IN AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL. WE HAD A SHORT DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE AND I THINK THERE ARE LEGITIMATE ISSUES WE NEED TO GET INTO BUT NOT IN THE APPROPRIATION BILL. THIS IS ONE OF MANY POLICY RIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN JAMMED IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL FROM THE ASSAULT ON THE CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER ACT TO ALLOWING MINING NEAR THE GRAND CAN, ONE OF THE GREAT NATURAL TREASURES WE HAVE AS A NATION AND ON AND ON AND ON. THIS EXTENSION RIDER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BASE BILL WOULD PREVENT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FROM SPENDING MONEY, ANY MONEY, OF LISTING OF NEW ANIMALS OR PLANTS UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. TO CLAIM THAT THIS DOESN'T DIRECTLY AFFECT AND ATTACK THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT TONIGHT IS MIND-BOGGLING TO ME YET IN MY HOME DISTRICT OF WESTERN WISCONSIN, A VERY BEAUTIFUL NATURAL WILDLIFE REFUGE, WITH THREE ENDANGERED SPECIES LOCATED THERE, FROM THE BLUE BUTTERFLY TO THE WHOOPING CRANE AND BECAUSE OF THE PO TEXT THEY'VE HAD, -- OF THE POTGS THEY'VE HAD -- PROTECTION THEY'VE HAD, THEY'RE RECOVERING AND THE WOLF IS ABOUT TO BE REMOVED FROM THE ENDANGERED LIST. NOW TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO REFUSE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HAVE ANIMALS OR PLANTS OR FISH FROM FALLING UNDER THE PROTECTION, TO NOT GOOD. BUT OTHER TROUBLING FACETS OF THIS, THE CUTS THAT HAVE BEEN BIPARTISANLY SUPPORTED IS DISTURBING. I'M GLAD THE COMMITTEE EARLIER ADOPTED THE BASS AMENDMENT TO RESTORE $20 MILLION TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND BUT WHY ARE WE CUTTING ANYTHING FROM THAT VITAL PROGRAM. THIS ISN'T EVEN FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS. IT COMES FROM OIL ROYALTIES, FROM A GRAND BARGAIN WE STRUCK WITH OIL AND GAS COMPANIES SO THEY CAN EXPLORE AND EXTRACT THESE NATURAL RESOURCES FROM OUR PUBLIC LAND. THEY AGREE THAT FOR THE RIGHT OF DOING THAT, THEY WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, FUNDS THAT WOULD BE USED THEN FOR THE ENHANCEMENT OF CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AND THE PROTECTION OF PUBLIC LANDS IN THIS COUNTRY. TO COME WITH A BILL THAT WOULD CUT 80% OUT OF OIL ROYALTIES DOES NOT MAKE SENSE OR THE 7.5% CUT UNDER THE WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM. I KNOW CHAIRMAN DICKS HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF THE REFUGE SYSTEM FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S A SYSTEM THAT AFFECTS VIRTUALLY EVERY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, BRINGS COUNTLESS REVENUES INTO OUR DISTRICT, PLUS JOBS, AND WITH THE HUGE BACK LOG OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, ANOTHER 7.5% CUT WILL PUT THEM IN THE HOLE. A $7 MILLION CUT FROM THE NATIONAL PARKS SYSTEM BUDGET, A 21% CUT IN THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, 64% IN THE STATE WILDLIFE GRANTS PROGRAM. YET BACK HOME, SOME OF THE GREATEST CONSERVATIONISTS I KNOW ARE MY HUNTING AND FISHING BUDDIES BECAUSE THEY GET IT. THEY UNDERSTAND IF WE JUST GO AND USE THE RESOURCES AND DEPLETE IT FROM THE WILDLIFE TO THE FISH TO THE WATER FOUL -- WATERFOWL THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE RECREATIONAL ENJOYMENT SO OF US GET IN THE OUTDOOR RECREATION COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NO SURPRISE THAT EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER 640 JUT DOOR RECREATION ENTITIES AND PRESERVATION ENTITIES SIGNED A BETTER -- LETTER TO EVERY -- EVERYONE IN OUR OFFICE DECRYING THE SENDING -- SPENDING CUTS IN THESE PROGRAMS WE HAVE BEFORE US THIS EVENING. THEY KNOW THAT THESE PROGRAMS AREN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST TURN IT OFF LIKE A SPISPI GOT. THEY REQUIRE THE CONTINUITY OF FUNDING AND THE CONTINUITY OF ASSISTANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROGRESS THAT IS NECESSARY. SO THESE DRACONIAN CUTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO SET BACK THE CAUSE OF CONSERVATION, WHETHER IT'S WILDLIFE OR LAND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THESE PROGRAMS HAVE. OUTDOOR RECREATION CONTRIBUTES OVER $730 BILLION ANNUALLY TO THE U.S. ECONOMY. IT SUPPORTS OVER 6.5 MILLION JOB, ONE OUT OF EVERY 20 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS ARE AFFILIATED WITH OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. 8% OF CONSUMER SPENDING. AND IN MY OWN STATE OF WISCONSIN, HUNTING AND FISHING ALOAN SUPPORTS OVER 57,000 JOBS, $400 MILLION IN STATE REVENUE. SO IF WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT ADDRESSING THE SOFT ECONOMY WE HAVE NOW AND DOING WHAT WE CAN TO GET THE ECONOMY ON TRACK, CREATING GOOD-PAYING JOBS, THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING IN THE BUDGET FOR DRASTIC CUTBACKS. I'VE WITHIN BUN OF -- I'VE BEEN ONE OF THE LEADERS FOR SIGNIFICANT FARM BILL REFORM TO GET AT THE OUTDATED AGRICULTURAL SUBSIDIES. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

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  • 09:13:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE GENTLEMAN MAY PROCEED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 09:13:20 PM

    MR. KIND

    LEADING THE CHARGE FOR FARM BILL REFORM, WITH THESE SUBSIDIES THAT GO TO…

    LEADING THE CHARGE FOR FARM BILL REFORM, WITH THESE SUBSIDIES THAT GO TO LARGE FARMERS AND NOT OUR FAMILY FARMERS, YET WHEN I'VE LEAD THIS -- LED THIS CAUSE IN THE PAST A MEMBER IN THIS BODY ACCUSED ME OF WILLING THE OSAMA BIN LADEN OF AGRICULTURAL POLICY. YET TODAY IF WE HAD TAKEN THOSE ACTIONS 10 YEARS AGO WHEN MANY OF US WERE ACTING ON IT, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T FIND OURSELVES IN THE HUGE FISCAL HOLE WE HAVE TODAY. IT'S NOT ONLY THE POLICY RIDERS BUT THE SPENDING CUTS BEING PROPOSED. IT'S THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR OUR NATION TO GO. IT WILL JEOPARDIZE THESE VITAL PROGRAMS, PROGRAMS THAT HAVE ENJOYED WIDE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND WE OUGHT NOT BE BALANCING THE BUDGET ON THEIR BACKS. OTHER THE LAST 30 YEAR, FUNDING FOR CONSERVATION PROGRAMS HAS GONE TO LESS THAN.6% OF FEDERAL FUNDING. THEY'VE GIVEN AT THE ALTAR OF FISCAL RESPONSIBLE. WE CAN'T GO ANY DEEPER. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE DICKS AMENDMENT. WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB.

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  • 09:14:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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    CHAIRMAN. I RELUCTANTLY RISE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S…

    CHAIRMAN. I RELUCTANTLY RISE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S AMENDMENT AND SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL. A LOT OF COMPELLING ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. THEY TALK ABOUT THE BALD EAGLE AND THE COMPELLING STORY ABOUT SEEING THOSE MAGNIFICENT BIRDS. THOSE ARE VISUAL IMAGES THAT WE ALL LIKE. BUT THERE'S A SIDE TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT THAT IS NOT BEING TOLD. THAT'S THE SIDE WHERE ONE GROUP JUST THIS YEAR FILED 1,000 PETITIONS AT ONE TIME TO LIST NEW SPECIES. THEY KNOW THAT THEIR LAWYERS GET REIMBURSED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVERY TIME THEY BRING SUIT, SO THEY'RE HAPPY TO BRING THESE ACTIONS WHICH ARE DESTROYING JOBS IN THE WEST.

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  • 09:15:22 PM

    MR. PEARCE

    IN THE SECOND DISTRICT OF NEW MEXICO, A LISTING OF -- SUGGESTED LISTING…

    IN THE SECOND DISTRICT OF NEW MEXICO, A LISTING OF -- SUGGESTED LISTING WAS GIVEN THIS YEAR ON THE SAND DUNE LIZ SARD. A SMALL BROWN LIZ SARD THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE SAND HILLS SINCE I WAS GROWING UP THERE. . THEY HAVE BEEN LISTED AS ENDANGERED AND PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF IT AND PEOPLE BEGAN TO READ THE REPORTS ANYTHING THAT DISTURBED THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND WOULD HAVE A POTENTIAL THREAT TO THE HABITAT OF THE LIZARD AND WOULD BE PROHIBITED TO THE LIZARD. THEY ASKED, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THAT MEANS OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY. $2.8 BILLION INVESTMENT FOR NUCLEAR ENRICHMENT THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN SOUTHERN LEE COUNTYY AND CREATING JOBS IN AN INDUSTRY THAT HAS BEEN DORMANT THAT WOULD BE SHUT DOWN. WOULD STOP THE HIGH LINE WIRES FROM BEING PUT UP, FROM THE ELECTRIC UTILITY CREWS FROM DRIVING TO THE HOMESTEDS MILES AND MILES AWAY FROM THE NEAREST TOWN. THEY COULDN'T CHECK THE POWER LINES TO MAKE SURE ELECTRICITY IS GOING TO THESE REMOTE AREAS. THIS IS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT THAT WE ARE SEEING. PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME, THEY COULDN'T KILL OUR JOBS WITH A LIZARD. WHAT ABOUT US AS HUMANS? I SAID LOOK AT THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY, 27,000 FARMERS PUT OUT OF WORK WITH A TWO-INCH DELTA SMELT. AND WE COULD HAVE PUT JOBS INTO RIVERS AND USE THE RIVERS FOR IRRIGATION, BUT INSTEAD A JUDGE FOUND THAT WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE AGRICULTURE PRODUCT. WE IMPORTED VEGETABLES FROM OTHER AREAS THAT SPRAY CONTAMINATION THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IN THIS NATION UNLESS SAFE FOOD SUPPLY. WE KILL 27,000 JOBS. WE CAUSE JOBS TO BE CREATED SOMEWHERE ELSE, LESS FOOD SAFE FOOD SUPPLY. WE ALSO HAVE A LESSER PRARIE CHICKEN THAT THREATENS JOBS IN OUR AREA. THEY ARE SAYING THE BIRD MIGHT NOT FLY OVER OR UNDER THOSE LINES SO WE CAN'T PUT UP ELECTRIC LINES. PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE LIZARD WOULDN'T GO ACROSS THE AREA. IT'S EASY TO SEE WHY PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND WE HAVE TO STOP IT. WE ARE SPENDING $3.5 TRILLION IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE KILLED ENOUGH OF OUR JOBS AND KILLED ENOUGH OF OUR ECONOMY THAT WERE IN SEVERE DEBT AND DEFICIT CRISIS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT WE HAVE ELIMINATED THE TIMBER INDUSTRY BECAUSE OF THE SPOTTED OWL AND ELIMINATED FARMER JOBS IN THE SAN WOW KEEN VALLEY AND WE HAVE SALMON SWIMMING UPSTREAM AND NOW WE HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE HYDRO LK DAMS AND THE -- HYDROELECTRIC DAMS AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THE SPECIES AND PRESERVE JOBS. FOR THE LAWYERS MAKING $350, THEY DON'T CARE. TO THE FISH AND WILDLIFE AGENCY, THEY SAID WE DIDN'T DO AN ECONOMIC STUDY TO SEE THE COST ON JOBS. WE AREN'T REQUIRED TO. PEOPLE ARE SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT'S IN MY DISTRICT THAT 900 PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO PROTEST AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS ON THE LISTING OF THE LIZARD. 900 PEOPLE COMING OUT SO THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE CAME TO ME AND SAID WOULD YOU SPEAK TO THOSE WHO COULDN'T GET INTO THE MEETING. THEY ARE AGITATED. I SAID PEOPLE DO GET AGITATED WHEN YOU START TAKING THE JOBS AWAY FROM THEM. THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS BEING DEALT. I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL.

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  • 09:19:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? CAPPS CAPPS I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF MR. DICKS' AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THIS ANTI-WILDLIFE RIDER FROM THE UNDERLYING BILL. THE RIDER WOULD GUT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, A LAW THAT HAS WORKED FOR 40 YEARS TO CONSERVE OUR NATION'S PLANTS AND ANIMALS AND WOULD DO THIS BY BLOCKING THE AGENCY. AS HAS BEEN SAID ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, THIS PROVISION CREATES A ONE-WAY PATH TO BY ALLOWING THE SERVICE TO DELIST AND DOWNGRADE A SPECIES' STATUS BUT NOT TO LIST NEW SPECIES. UNLESS A SPECIES IS LISTED, IT RESERVES NO PROTECTION. THE SERVICE HAS IDENTIFIED OVER 26 SPECIES THAT WARRANT PROTECTION BUT CANNOT BE LISTED DUE TO A LACK OF FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT IS PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF ASSISTANCE AND IN RISK OF DYING FOREVER. PLANTS AND NAFPBLES ARE IN SERIOUS -- ANIMALS ARE IN TROUBLE. HABITAT DESTRUCTION AND CLIMATE CHANGE BUT THIS IRRESPONSIBLE RIDER MAY PROVE TO BE THE MOST IMMEDIATE AND SERIOUS THREAT OF ALL. SENDLESS COUNTLESS SPECIES, DESTROYING AMERICA'S LEGACY, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PRESERVE OUR NATION'S RESOURCES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WAS WRITTEN. IT CODIFIES OUR COMMITMENT TO STEWARDSHIP AND HOLETS DEAR FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. WE WITNESSED INCREDIBLE COMEBACKS. ANIMALS THAT WERE DISAPPEARING ARE THRIVING. BECAUSE OF THIS ACT AND OTHER SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS, BALD EAGLES HAVE RETURNED NOT ONLY TO WASHINGTON STATE BUT TO THE CHANNEL ISLANDS OFF THE COAST OF MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, A PAIR OF NESTING EAGLES PRODUCED THE FIRST BORN CHICKS ON OUR ISLAND IN 50 YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN CALIFORNIA AND CO NDOORS AND THE SEAL, WHICH WAS HUNT TODD NEAR EXTINCTION CAN BE SEEN SWIMMING. THERE ARE SIMILAR SUCCESS STORIES FOR THE OTTERS AND BLUE WHALE BOTH FOUND OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA AND RETURN OF ISLAND FOXES WHOSE POPULATION DROPPED DOUB DOWN TO LESS THAN 100 IS NOW BACK ABOVE 1,200. THERE ARE SO MANY EXAMPLES, FLORIDA PANTHERS, GRAY WOLFS AND HUNDREDS MORE SPECIES THAT HAVE NOT GONE EXTINCT AFTER RECEIVING PROTECTION UNDER THE ACT. THEY CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER AND WE CAPTAIN LET THEM DISAPPEAR. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MR. DICKS' AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THIS IRRESPONSIBLE PROVISION IN THE BILL. WE CAN AND MUST DO BETTER. OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE DEPENDING UPON US. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:23:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    LAST WORD.

  • 09:23:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:23:31 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    MR. DICKS' IDEA BUT NOT THE PREAS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEBATE ON THIS…

    MR. DICKS' IDEA BUT NOT THE PREAS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEBATE ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IT'S LIKE SHIPS CROSSING IN THE NIGHT BUT NOT TOUCHING. EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN SO FAR IS SAYING THE SAME THING, WE WANT TO HAVE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT THAT WORKS. WE NEED TO MAKE IT WORK BETTER AND INVOLVE THE ENTIRE PROCESS SO EVERYONE IS WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL. BUT FOR SOME REASON IT IS NOT HAPPENING. AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE VIOLATED THE PROCESS. EVERYONE WHO HAS SAID THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO FIX THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, AND THAT IS TRUE, BUT THE ONLY PROCESS THAT IS ALLOWED BECAUSE WE HAVE VIOLATED OUR OWN INTENT. APPROPRIATORS ARE SUPPOSED TO PROIPT FUNDS TO PROGRAM, AUTHORIZERS ARE SUPPOSED TO CREATE THE PROGRAMS AND THEN RE-AUTHORIZE THOSE PROGRAMS BEA BASED ON THE NEED OR MAKE MAKE SURE WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ONE OF MY FAVORITE BASEBALL PLAYERS WITH THE CLEVELAND INDEPENDENTIANS AND HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY REGULAR SHORTSTOP BUT THE FIRST YEAR HE COMMITTED 48 YORSE AND BATTING AVERAGE WAS .187. THIS TIME HIS ERRORS WAS SLIGHTLY UNDER.100. AND HIS BATTING AVERAGE WAS .187. I SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE MOST INEPT PLAYER TO PUT ON SPIKES HAD A BATTING AVERAGE OF .187. THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT HAS LISTED OVER 200 SPECIES AND SAVED 21 FOR A BATTING AVERAGE OF.10 IF YOU ROUND UP. IT IS.009. THAT INDICATES WE CAN DO BETTER AND NEED TO DO BETTER. SO THE QUESTION HAS TO BE, WHY AREN'T WE DOING BETTER? WHY CAN'T WE FIX THIS PROBLEM AND HAVE A BETTER SUCCESS RATE. AND THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE. FOR 23 YEARS WE PUT RIDERS ON THIS APPROPRIATIONS ACT TO FULLY FUND THE OLD PROGRAM WHICH HAS PROHIBITED THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE TO EVER GET PEOPLE TOGETHER TO MAKE THE PROGRAM BETTER. CHAIRMAN HASTINGS HAS SIMPLY SAID HIS GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A PROCESS THAT IMPROVES THE SYSTEM AND THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE SYSTEM. BUT TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GET THE PLAYERS TO SIT DOWN IN THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES WHERE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKED OUT. THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED, NEEDS TO BE FIXED, NEEDS TO ZERO IN TO CREATE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMMON GOAL. I'M ACTUALLY GRATEFUL FOR REPRESENTATIVE DISCS AND REPRESENTATIVE SIMPSON AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THIS BILL. THIS DOES NOT DESTROY THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AR DOESN'T CUT THE FUNDING FOR THOSE SPECIES ALREADY BEING WORKED ON. ALL IT DOES IS PROVIDE A CHANGE IN THE PROCESS TO INCYST -- INSIST THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PAST 23 YEARS, GOING TO THE AUTHORIZING ACT AND NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE YEAR AND FUNDING IT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR WHILE ONLY 21 SPECIES VR RECOVERED OVER THE 2,000 THAT COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN. WE ALL WANT SPECIES TO BE PRESERVED AND RECOVERED, BUT WE ALL ARE FAILING IN THE PROCESS AND AFTER 23 YEARS, WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST DOESN'T WORK. MAYBE IF WE WENT BACK TO WHERE THE SYSTEM WAS INTENDED TO BE AND DESIGNED TO FUNCTION, WE COULD ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD IN THIS ENTIRE ISSUE WHICH EVERYONE IS SAYING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:27:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES GENTLEMAN RISE.

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  • 09:27:49 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS. AS I RECALL FROM 1995 TO 2007, THE OTHER…

    THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS. AS I RECALL FROM 1995 TO 2007, THE OTHER SIDE, THE MAJORITY PARTY TODAY WAS THE MAJORITY PARTY THEN. AND I DON'T REMEMBER ANY GREAT EFFORT ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. NOW I WELCOME IT. I WELCOME ANY ACT THAT CAN BE MADE BETTER AND NOW YOU GUYS ARE IN CHARGE AGAIN AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, I BELIEVE MR. BISHOP WAS ON THE COMMITTEE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. I'M GOING TO GO LOOK FOR HIS REFORM BILL IN THE RECORD TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING HERE. I'LL YIELD FIRST TO THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN FROM WASHINGTON STATE, THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND THEN MR. SIMPSON. HE IS SENIOR TO YOU.

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  • 09:28:48 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S REMARKS. I WOULD REMIND HIM THAT FROM THE TIME WE DID GET CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS FROM 1995 UNTIL YOUR SIDE GAINED CONTROL AFTER 2006 ELECTION, THE THEN CHAIRMAN, THE LAST CHAIRMAN OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, RICHARD POMBO OF CALIFORNIA, THAT WAS PT ISSUE HE WAS WORKING ON. AND IN 2005, WE DID PASS THE REFORM OUT OF THIS HOUSE. IT DID NOT GO ANY PLACE IN THE BODY SO HISTORY TENDS TO REPEAT ITSELF. MY POINT IS THAT YES, -- AND HERE'S THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THROUGH ALL THE EFFORTS OF CHAIRMAN POMBO OF TRYING TO GET THIS ENACTED AND COULDN'T GET IT THROUGH THE SENATE, WHAT THE APPROPRIATION DID, KICKED THE CAN AHEAD.

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  • 09:29:52 PM

    MR. DICKS

    JUST WOULD SAY, NOBODY'S STOPPING YOU. HOLD YOUR HEARINGS, HAVE YOUR…

    JUST WOULD SAY, NOBODY'S STOPPING YOU. HOLD YOUR HEARINGS, HAVE YOUR MEETINGS. CALL YOUR WITNESSES, BUT DON'T STOP LISTING 260 CANDIDATE SPECIES UNTIL YOU GET THE JOB DONE.

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  • 09:30:13 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I HAVE BEEN CHAIRMAN NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER SIX MONTHS AND I HAVE EVERY…

    I HAVE BEEN CHAIRMAN NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER SIX MONTHS AND I HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO DO THAT AND I WANT TO WORK WITH THE GENTLEMAN TO DO THIS.

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  • 09:30:22 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I WANT TO BE INVOLVED. I YIELD TO MY GOOD FRIEND, GENTLEMAN AND FORMER…

    I WANT TO BE INVOLVED. I YIELD TO MY GOOD FRIEND, GENTLEMAN AND FORMER RANKING MEMBER, ONE OF THE BEST RANKING MEMBERS I EVER HAD.

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    FOR YIELDING. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING HERE. WE WANT THE ENDANGERED…

    FOR YIELDING. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING HERE. WE WANT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND WE WANT IT TO WORK. AS YOU MENTIONED, SENATOR KEMPTHORN WORKED ON IT. HE -- THAT WAS WHEN HE WAS SENATOR BEFORE HE BECAME GOVERNOR OF IDAHO. IT WAS REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE THAT STOPPED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WENT FAR ENOUGH. UNFORTUNATELY IF WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WE'RE GOING TO GET EXACTLY WHAT WE GOT IN THE PAST, THAT IS NO INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THIS AND WE'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

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  • 09:31:18 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER. ZPHRI DO THINK IT MIGHT BE INSTRUCTIVE THAT…

    I YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER. ZPHRI DO THINK IT MIGHT BE INSTRUCTIVE THAT HE'S NO LONGER AMONG OUR RANKS AND THE PRINCIPAL REASON IS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT ACCUSATION THAT HE ATTEMPTED TO WRITE WHICH WAS SO DESTRUCTIVE OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT BACK IN 1965 AND IT WAS A REPUBLICAN SENATE THAT DEFEATED IT, THAT WOULD NOT LET IT PASS.

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  • 09:31:54 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THERE ARE POLITICAL RISKS IN DOING WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN THIS BODY. WE…

    THERE ARE POLITICAL RISKS IN DOING WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN THIS BODY. WE ALL FACE THAT. AFTER ALL, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT. BUT THE POINT IS, IT NEEDS, WE HAVE BEEN SAYING OVER AND OVER, THE E.S.A. NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

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  • 09:32:10 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I AGREE. WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW TO IMPROVE THE E.S.A. I DON'T LIKE TO HEAR…

    I AGREE. WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW TO IMPROVE THE E.S.A. I DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THESE EXAMPLES OF WHERE THIS IS -- THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE WORKED OUT. I'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS AS YOU HAVE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THERE'S A SPOTTED OWL, THE MARBLED SALMON, ETC. THESE ARE STARTING TO RECOVER. WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS. BUT I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE THIS ACT BETTER. I JUST THINK BY TAKING OUT THE ABILITY TO LIST, TO HAVE CRITICAL HABITATS, WE'RE RISKING SOME OF THESE SPECIES THAT ARE CLOSE TO EXTINCT. REMEMBER THIS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT BIODIVERSITY. THE WEB OF LIFE. WE DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THESE THINGS RELATE AND WHETHER SOMETHING CAN BE CREATED, A MEDICINE THAT COULD SAVE LIVES IN THE FUTURE AND THAT'S WHY TRYING TO PROTECT THESE SPECIES IS AN IMPORTANT -- I ASK --

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    CONSENT THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE.

  • 09:33:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE JELL MAY CONTINUE.

  • 09:33:21 PM

    MR. DICKS

    CREATURE HERE'S TOO. WE DEPEND ON A LOT OF OTHER ANIMALS IN ORDER TO…

    CREATURE HERE'S TOO. WE DEPEND ON A LOT OF OTHER ANIMALS IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. THIS IS -- THIS GOES BEYOND -- THIS GOES BEYOND JUST A LEGISLATIVE IT'S DIFFICULT. THIS IS DOWN AND DIRTY, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SURVIVAL.

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    YIELD? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID. IT'S ALSO…

    YIELD? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE THE CAPS OFF THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE PRESIDENT CLINTON AND WOULD UNDERMINE THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE'S BUDGET BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE COURTS AND LAWSUITS. THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

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  • 09:34:00 PM

    MR. DICKS

    IT IN CONFERENCE. I YIELD BACK.

  • 09:34:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED. TO

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  • 09:34:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 09:34:32 PM

    THE CLERK

    13, CONSTRUCTION, $11,80 ,000. LAND ACQUISITION. $15,047,000. COOPERATIVE…

    13, CONSTRUCTION, $11,80 ,000. LAND ACQUISITION. $15,047,000. COOPERATIVE ENDANGERED SPECIES CONSERVATION FUND. $2,854,000. NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE FUND, $13,980,000. NORTH AMERICAN WETLANDS CONSERVATION FUND, $20 MILLION.

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  • 09:35:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS RISE?

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. GRIFFIN OF ARKANSAS, PAGE 10, LINE 21, INSERT AFTER THE…

    OFFERED BY MR. GRIFFIN OF ARKANSAS, PAGE 10, LINE 21, INSERT AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THE FOLLOWING, INCREASE BY $3 MILLION. PAGE 65, LINE 19, INSERT AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE FOLLOWING, REDUCED BY $3 MILLION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GRIFFIN

    I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT WHICH WILL LEVERAGE OUR LIMITED RESOURCES FOR…

    I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT WHICH WILL LEVERAGE OUR LIMITED RESOURCES FOR WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION. IT WOULD TRANSFER $3 MILLION TO THE WETLANDS CONSERVATION FUND BY REDUCING THE E.P.A.'S OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION BUDGET BY THE SAME AMOUNTMENT -- BY THE SAME AMOUNT. THE E.P.A. HAS BEEN OVERFUNDED IN RECENT YEARS AND I RESPECT SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN SIMPSON'S ATTEMPT TO BRING IT DOWN TO SIZE. THIS MAKES A CUT TO E.P.A. ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET IN FAVOR OF WETLANDS CONSERVATION. SINCE THIS ORGANIZATION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1989, MORE THAN 1,800 PROJECTS HAVE LED TO THE CONSERVATION OF OVER 2,-- OF OVER 24 MILLION ACRES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. EACH PROJECT IS FUNDED THROUGH A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF THE ORGANIZATION'S MONEY THAT'S SPENT IN MY HOME STATE OF ARKANSAS, PRIVATE SOURCES AND ORGANIZATIONS HAVE GIVEN $4 IN MATCHING FUNDS. IN ARKANSAS ALONE, 12 OF THESE PROJECTS ARE EITHER COMPLETED OR CURRENTLY UNDER WAY. THESE PROJECTS HAVE CONSERVED OVER 64,000 OF WETLANDS. MAKE NO MISTAKES THIS SUCCESS STORY IS NOT LIMITED TO ARKANSAS. WETLANDS, WILDLIFE AND OUTDOORSMEN IN EVERY SINGLE STATE IN THE COUNTRY HAVE SEEN THE BENEFITS OF THIS CONSERVATION EFFORT. ARKANSAS SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MISSISSIPPI FLYWAY, A ROUTE USED BY WATER FOUL AS THEY MIGRATE EACH AUTUMN. THEY OFTEN SETTLE IN WETLANDS ALONG THE WHITE RIVER AND ARKANSAS RIVER AND THE HEALTH OF THESE HABITATS IS CLOSELY TIED TO THE HEALTH OF THE WILE LIVE WHICH INHABIT THEM. THIS WOULD HELP IMPROVE THE CONDITION OF THE NATION'S WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SPORTSMEN, CONSERVATIONISTS AND ANYONE WHO ENJOYS THE JOUST DOORS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:37:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE THE VOTING RECORD FROM FEBRUARY 16. I KNOW THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE THE VOTING RECORD FROM FEBRUARY 16. I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN WILL RECALL H.R. 1 AND THE DEBATE THAT ENSUED. IN H.R. 1, THE NORTH AMERICAN WETLANDS CONSERVATION FUND WAS ZEROED OUT. AND SO, I ADDED AN AMENDMENT TO RESTORE $50 MILLION TO THE NORTH AMERICAN WETLANDS CONSERVATION PROGRAM. WHAT I FIND CURIOUS, CONFUSING, IS THAT THE VERY GENTLEMAN WHO NOW WANTS TO PUT MONEY INTO THE PROGRAM VOTED NO. AGAINST PUTTING THE $50 MILLION INTO THE NORTH AMERICA WETLANDS CONSERVATION PROGRAM BACK IN THE SPRING. NOW, I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUED. BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE WANT SOMETHING TO BE FUNDED, WE TAKE IT OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT OF AGENCIES. $3 MILLION. $5 MILLION. $6 MILLION. WHEN THESE AMENDMENTS PASS, YOU HAVE A VERY DAMAGING CUMULATIVE EFFECT ON THE ABILITY OF THE AGENCY TO MANAGE THESE PROGRAMS. IF THIS WERE TO PASS, WE'RE NOW AT $8 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT OF E.P.A. SO I WOULD HAVE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. I'M NOT SURE HOW STRONGLY THE GENTLEMAN FEELS ABOUT IT, SINCE HE VOTED AGAINST RESTORING THE MONEY IN FEBRUARY, AS DID A GREAT MANY MEMBERS OF THE BODY, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM. AND I'LL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME -- I CAN'T RESERVE. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED -- THE GENTLEMAN IS…

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED -- THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    PREPARED TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. WHILE THE GENTLEMAN FROM --

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    MR. SIMPSON

    WHILE THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA OFFERED AN AMENDMENT ON H.R. 1, WHICH…

    WHILE THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA OFFERED AN AMENDMENT ON H.R. 1, WHICH WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, IT WAS $50 MILLION. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. BECAUSE OF THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE DID FUND IT TO KEEP IT ALIVE AT $20 MILLION. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE GENTLEMAN REQUESTS AND WHERE HE TAKES IT FROM, SO I SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND WOULD HOPE THAT MY FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA WOULD THINK TICE AND SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    23, MULTINATIONAL SPECIES CONSERVATION FUND. $7,875,000. STATE AND TRIBAL…

    23, MULTINATIONAL SPECIES CONSERVATION FUND. $7,875,000. STATE AND TRIBAL WILDLIFE GRANTS, $22 MILLION. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS. APPROPRIATIONS SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR REPAIR OF DAMAGED PUBLIC ROADS WITHIN RESERVATION AREAS. NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, OPERATION OF THE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM. $2,240,152,000.

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  • 09:41:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK, NUMBER 049.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. TONKO OF NEW YORK. PAGE 14, LINE 7, AFTER THE FIRST DOLLAR…

    OFFERED BY MR. TONKO OF NEW YORK. PAGE 14, LINE 7, AFTER THE FIRST DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT DECREASED BY $8,408,000. PAGE 14, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT INCREASED BY $,408,000.

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    MR. TONKO

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO H.R. 25 4, THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO H.R. 25 4, THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 12. THE AMENDMENT IS BIPARTISAN AND SUPPORTED BY THE CONGRESSIONAL NATIONAL HERITAGE CAUCUS AND THE 49 NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. THE AMENDMENT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD AND MODEST. THE AMENDMENT RESTORES THE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA PROGRAM WITHIN THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2010 FUNDING LEVELS. THIS AMOUNT IS CONSTANT WITH THE AMOUNT APPROVED BY CONGRESS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. TO PAY FOR THIS INCREASE, THE AMENDMENT SHIFTED $8,408,000 A WAY FROM THE NATIONAL PARKS SYSTEM ACCOUNT. FROM ALASKA TO FLORIDA, THE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS FOR RESEARCH CONSERVATION AND HERITAGE TOURISM SUPPORTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHILE EACH OF THE 49 NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE ARE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE $1 MILLION IN ANNUAL SUPPORT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, THE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA PROGRAM HAS ONLY BEEN FUNDED BETWEEN $15 MILLION AND $18 MILLION OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS BY CONGRESS. DESPITE THEIR SUCCESS IN REVITALIZING COMMUNITIES AND CONSERVING NATIONALLY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES WITH ONLY MOD ETC. FEDERAL SUPPORT. THESE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE PERHAPS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT PROGRAMS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, MATCHING EVERY DOLLAR OF FEDERAL SUPPORT WITH $5.50 OF OTHER PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNDING, NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ARE CLEARLY A HIGH YIELD INVESTMENT OF FEDERAL RESOURCES. TO BE CLEAR, THAT RESULTS IN OVER $1 MILLION OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. DURING A TIME WHEN OUR ECONOMY IS SO FRAGILE, WE MUST SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT, NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS HAVE SUCH A PROVEN RECORD OF FOSTERING JOB CREATION AND ADVANCING ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, HISTORIC, ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION TO CREATING JOBS, NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS GENERATE VALUABLE REVENUE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND SUSTAIN COMMUNITIES THROUGH REVITALIZATION AND HERITAGE TOURISM. MORE SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT, A RECENT STUDY RELEASED LAST YEAR BY MY LOCAL HERITAGE AREA, THE ERIE CANAL WAY HERITAGE CORRIDOR FOUND THAT NEARLY ONE MILLION PEOPLE HAVE IT HERITAGE SITES EACH YEAR, GENERATING $36 MILLION IN SALES IN LOCAL BUSINESSES AND 507,000 LOCAL JOBS. WE MUST PRESERVE SITES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. IT WILL INCREASE COMMUNITY SPIRIT AND YEN RATE MUCH-NEEDED TOUR INCH DOLLARS. A RECENT TOURISM AND MARKETING COUNSEL RE-- COUNCIL REVEALED THAT CULTURAL HERITAGE TRAVELERS CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN $192 BILLION ANNUALLY TO OUR UNITED STATES ECONOMY. I WOULD POINT OUT ALSO THAT THIS TOOL, THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR HERITAGE AREAS, ENABLES GIVEN REGIONS TO HAVE A STRONGER SENSE OF MARKETING TOOLS. THEY ARE ABLE TO PROMOTE A STRONGER SENSE OF PLACE AND A MUCH MORE DYNAMIC BIT OF DESTINATION. THAT IS A TOOL OF THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY -- RECOVERY TOOL KIT THAT IS TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO THESE GIVEN HOST REGIONS. I WANT TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE DENT OF PENNSYLVANIA FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT WITH ME TODAY. HE IS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE NABBLE HERITAGE AREA CAUCUS IN THE HOUSE AND HE AND HIS STAFF HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ON THIS AMENDMENT. I ALSO NEED TO THANK OUR RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. DICKS, AND OUR RANKER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, REPRESENTATIVE MORAN. THEY HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE IN THEIR SUPPORT IN MY EFFORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT. . I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS AMOUNT IS TOTAL ON THE PROGRAM IN THE FISCAL YEAR AND REMAINS SUCCESSFUL. I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS MODEST FUNDING LEVEL. WITH THAT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:46:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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  • 09:46:10 PM

    MR. DENT

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I DO SUPPORT THE TONKO AMENDMENT. MR. TONKO AND I…

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I DO SUPPORT THE TONKO AMENDMENT. MR. TONKO AND I HAVE OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE HOUSE. WE ARE THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE HERITAGE CORRIDOR CAUCUS. I REPRESENT THE AREAS OF THE DELAWARE LEHIGH CORRIDOR IN EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND WE HAVE SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF POSITIVE ACTIVITY AS A RESULT OF THESE HERITAGE AREAS. SPECIFICALLY AS MR. TONKO CONVEYED, A GREAT DEAL OF TOURISM ACTIVITY, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL OCCURS AS A RESULT OF THIS AND ALSO SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN THE RESULT OF OUR EFFORTS AND INVESTMENT IN THESE HERITAGE AREAS. OBVIOUSLY MONEY IS VERY TIGHT. AND THIS PROGRAM IS TAKING ABOUT A 50% REDUCTION UNDER THE UNDERLYING BILL. THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US WILL SIMPLY RESTORE ABOUT $8.4 MILLION TO THE HERITAGE AREA, TO THE HERITAGE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM AND WILL BE TAKING THAT MONEY, SUBSTITUTING IT FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WHERE THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO OPERATE. I DO SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. I KNOW CHAIRMAN SIMPSON HAS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN THIS AND HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL WITH THE NUMBERS HE HAS HAD TO WORK WITH. I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING BILL BUT THIS AMENDMENT STRIKES THE PROPER BALANCE AND PRESERVES AND PROTECTS THESE HERITAGE AREAS THAT ARE MAKING A REAL IMPACT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE MANY OF THESE HERITAGE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING, 49 OF THESE HERITAGE AREAS ARE CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE AND THEY ARE RECEIVING SUPPORT THROUGH THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT. I THINK THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS WORTHY OF OUR SUPPORT. WE ARE SIMPLY IN THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES TRYING TO BRING THE PROGRAM BACK TO NEUTRAL. I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT IN THEIR BUDGET PROPOSAL CUT THIS PROGRAM AS WELL, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO HELP US BRING THIS PROGRAM BACK TO A LEVEL THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORTING THESE HERITAGE AREAS AND THESE COMMUNITIES ARE BENEFITING. WE ARE SEEING SO MUCH TOURIST ACTIVITY AND INCREASED RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. IN MY COMMUNITY, WE ARE DOING THINGS ON OUR RIVERS AND DISCOVERING OUR RIVERS AND DISCOVERING THE NATURAL BEAUTY THAT MANY OF US HAVE NOT NOTICED BEFORE AND IT IS AS A RESULT OF THIS AND BROUGHT THE RIVERS BACK TO LIFE, ECONOMIC LIFE, COMMUNITY LIFE AND HAVE BECOME THE CENTER OF OUR EXISTENCE AND A LOT OF THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE IF NOT FOR THE REALIZATION OF THESE HERITAGE AREAS. I WOULD URGE THE HOUSE TO ADOPT THIS. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:49:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. MORAN

    THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. MORAN

    OF WHAT MR. TONKO AND MR. DENT ARE PROPOSING. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM ON…

    OF WHAT MR. TONKO AND MR. DENT ARE PROPOSING. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM ON THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS THE KIND OF PROGRAM THAT REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT IN THE HOUSE. I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING VERY SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, OFTENTIMES 150,000, SOMETIMES IT GETS UP TO 700,000, BUT SOMETIMES RELATIVELY SMALL APARTMENTS OF MONEY AND WHAT THEY DO IS BRING LOCAL COMMUNITY LEADERS TOGETHER. LOCAL COMMUNITIES LOVE IT AND IT DRAWS TOURISM. PEOPLE -- IT GETS IN THE NEWSPAPER, OFTENTIMES IN THE METRO NEWSPAPERS SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS A TERRIFIC DAY TRIP FOR FAMILIES TO GO ON AND THEY FOLLOW THE HERITAGE TRAIL. IT HAS THAT KIND OF NATIONAL RECOGNITION AND CREDIBILITY THAT ONLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFTENTIMES CAN PROVIDE TO A NATIONAL HERITAGE TRAIL BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE CLAIM IT. BUT WHEN THE NATIONAL HERITAGE PROGRAM IDENTIFIES IT AS ONE OF THE TWO ASSETS OF OUR COUNTRY IN PLACES THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED AND EXPLAINED TO THE PUBLIC, THEN MORE PEOPLE COME. AND IT GENERATES JOBS. IT GENERATES ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. MR. WOLF JUST PUT IN AN AUTHORIZATION. HE PROBABLY WON'T GET THE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S AUTHORIZED, BUT WILL GET SOME FOR THE CIVIL WAR BATTLEFIELD CROSSROADS TRAIL AND THAT'S DRAWING PEOPLE UP WITH THE CEREMONY OF THE CIVIL WAR. THE HUDSON RIVER, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT OPPOSEDED IT WHEN MR. HINCHEY PUT IT IN AND WHEN HE SAW HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS, HE SAID LET'S GET MY PART OF THE HUDSON RIVER INCLUDED. THIS WAS A GOOD PROGRAM THAT WAS FUNDED AT $17 MILLION. 50% CUT, THOUGH. TALK ABOUT BEING PENNY WISE AND POUND FOOLISH. 50% CUT AND IT HURTS THE ECONOMIES OF ANY NUMBER OF AREAS AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY REASONABLE AMENDMENT. AND WE CONGRATULATE THE CAUCUS FOR COMING FORWARD AND SUGGESTING THAT THE MONEY BE RESTORED. AND WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 09:52:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 09:52:23 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM FROM NEW YORK AND…

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM FROM NEW YORK AND VIRGINIA AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO AND IT IS IMPORTANT WORKS, BUT I RISE IN RELUCTANT OPPOSITION. WHILE I'M SYMPATHETIC OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE OFFSET WOULD TAKE FUNDS AWAY FOR PROVIDING FUNDS FOR OPERATIONS OF OUR NATIONAL PARKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR PARK SERVICES SO EVERY PARK WOULD BE OPENED FOR BUSINESS NEXT YEAR WITHOUT THREAT OF LAYOFFS. MY FEAR IS REDUCING THIS BY $8.8 MILLION WOULD UNDERMINE THE OPERATION OF OUR NATIONAL PARKS. LET ME POINT OUT THAT WHILE THE AMOUNT IN THE BILL IS REDUCED FROM FISCAL YEAR 2011 ENACTED LEVEL, THE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ARE FUNDED IN THE AMOUNT REQUESTED BY THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET. YOU KNOW THESE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ARE SUPPOSED TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT AND WHEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THE FUNDING REQUEST FROM THE PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THEIR BUDGET AND NOT ANY MONEY FOR THESE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS. WE FUNDED THESE AT THE PRESIDENT'S LEVEL. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMEN ARE TRYING TO DO. BUT BECAUSE OF THE OFFSET, I RELUCK TANTLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:54:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., RISE? THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 09:54:22 PM

    MR. TONKO

    FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES GENTLEMAN RISE?

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  • 09:54:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    5 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. AMASH OF MICHIGAN.

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    MR. AMASH

    ABOUT THE EAST COAST DANCE CONSERVATIVE, MY AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2884 WILL…

    ABOUT THE EAST COAST DANCE CONSERVATIVE, MY AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2884 WILL REDUCE THE DEFICIT SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND SOUGHT SUBSIDIES TO BANDS INCLUDING THE BEACH BOYS. IT WILL REDUCE THE DEFICIT BY TRANSFERRING FUNDING BY THE NATIONAL CAPITAL AREA FOR FUNDING ARTS PROGRAM TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THE PROGRAM PROVIDES FREE CONCERTS AND SUBSIDIZED PERFORMANCES AROUND WASHINGTON, D.C., BY PAYING FOR LIGHTING AND OTHER PERFORM-RELATED COSTS. THE PROGRAM FUNDS VENUES. EVEN NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, WHICH ADMINISTERS THE PROGRAM HAS RECOMMENDED ITS ELIMINATION. SEEING IT DISTRACTS THE PARK SERVICE FROM PERFORMING ITS CORE FUNCTIONS. IT WILL TRANSFER ALL OF THE PROGRAMS, $2.2 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION PROGRAM. I LIKE THE BEACH BOYS BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD FORCE TAXPAYERS TO SUBSIDIZE MY TICKET IF I GO TO THEIR CONCERT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT TO PREVENT THE WASTEFUL SPENDING ON ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMS IN THE WASHINGTON, D.C., AREA. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:56:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 09:56:28 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT THE BEACH BOYS TO BE…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT THE BEACH BOYS TO BE THE ISSUE HERE. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING MR. WAS' TENURE AS SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR. THAT WAS NOT SO SUCCESSFUL WHEN HE CAME AFTER THE BEACH BOYS. BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, WHAT WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE A NUMBER OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND THESE ARE NATIONAL MEMORIALS. FORD'S THEATER, WOLF TRAP. I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT HE WATCH THE BEACH BOYS PERFORM. I GUESS IT'S MORE MY AGE BUT IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD PERFORMANCE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FORD'S THEATER, WOLF TRAP, CARTER BARON, ALL PART OF THE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM. THE KENNEDY CENTER IS A NATIONAL MEMORIAL. THESE ARE PERFORMING ARTS RIGHT HERE ON THE CAPITOL GROUNDS AS WELL. NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NATIONALLY SIGNIFICANT SITES AND THE PERFORMANCES THAT OCCUR, IN FACT, ARE PART OF THE MISSION OF THESE SITES THAT WERE AUTHORIZED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THE TAX PAYING PUBLIC TO COME TO A NONPROFIT VENUE AND IN FACT BE ENTERTAINED. THE NATIONAL PARKS DO THAT, THEY ENTERTAIN. THE PUBLIC THAT PAYS FOR THEM. SOMETIMES IT'S BEING SEENG AT SITES, HIKING, CAMPING AND PERFORMANCES. NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IS IN KEEPING WITH ITS MISSION TO INTERPRET THE PURPOSE OF THESE NATIONAL SITES. THESE PERFORMANCES ARE SEEN BY CITIZENS, IN FACT, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, MANY PEOPLE WHO VISIT OUR NATION'S CAPITAL ATTEND THESE PERFORMANCES AS PART OF THEIR TRIP TO THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. THE CROWDS THAT FILL THE WEST LAWN ON THE CAPITOL ON 4TH OF JULY AND MEMORIAL DAY ARE TESTAMENT. IF YOU WERE THERE ON MEMORIAL DAY OR THE 4TH OF JULY AND TURNED TO SEE THE CROWD, PEOPLE ARE THERE AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE, PEOPLE REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS DIVERSE COUNTRY AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WITH A SMILE ON THEIR FACE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WERE DELIGHTED AND OVERJOYED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND APPRECIATE AND ENJOY THE PERFORMANCE THAT WAS PUT ON ON THE 4TH OF JULY AND MEMORIAL DAY. THAT'S PART OF OUR NATION'S HERITAGE. IT'S A PROUD PART. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO REAL HARM TO PROGRAMS ENJOYED BY MILLIONS OF AMERICAN. WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THIS LINE ITEM HAS ALREADY SUFFERED VIRTUALLY DEVASTATING CUT. IT WAS FUNDED AT ABOUT 10 MILLION AND BEEN CUT TO $2 MILLION. IT'S JUST BARELY HANGING ON. AND HOW THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ELIMINATE IT. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THIS. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE MEMBERS AND AT LEAST AS MANY MEMBERS OF THE MINORITY -- OF THE MAJORITY SIDE AND THE MINORITY SIDE WERE THERE FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY CONCERT. I SAW THEM. I WAS SITTING THEM WITH THEM. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE WERE ALL THERE HONORING OUR TROOPS.

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  • 10:00:35 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TO YIELD. . COLIN POWELL WAS THERE AND MANY OF THE WOUNDED WARRIORS WERE…

    TO YIELD. . COLIN POWELL WAS THERE AND MANY OF THE WOUNDED WARRIORS WERE THERE AS WELL. TEAM 6 THAT HAD JUST DEALT WITH OSAMA BIN LADEN IN A FAIRLY DEFINITIVE MANNER, TEAM SIX WAS THERE. WE COULDN'T IDENTIFY THEM BUT WE ALL APPLAUDED FOR THEM. THE GENTLEMAN MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT, COLIN POWELL WAS THE MASTER OF CEREMONIES. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO ELIMINATE? THIS IS WHAT IS SUCH A THREAT TO OUR BUDGET, TAKING SO MUCH MONEY? IT'S NOT TAKING THAT MUCH MONEY. WHATEVER MONEY IT'S TAKING, IT'S GIVING BACK FAR MORE IN RETURN.

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  • 10:01:27 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING. I HOPE WE CAN DEFEAT THIS UNNEEDED AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I AGREE WITH THE WORDS SPOKE BIN THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND THE…

    I AGREE WITH THE WORDS SPOKE BIN THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. IN THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON BY THE CAPITOL CONCERTS ON THE FOURTH OF JULY AND MEMORIAL DAY, WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR OUR TROOPS AND FOR REALLY THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA, I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT. AND THEY DO THINGS AT FORD'S THEATER AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THIS IS OUR NATION'S CAPITOL. THE THINGS THEY DO HERE ARE IMPORTANT. THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COUNTRY, NOT JUST FOR THIS SMALL PIECE OF LAND WE CALL WASHINGTON, D.C. SO I HOPE THAT MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WOULD RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE PROGRAMS AN THE WORK THEY DO AND THE IMPORTANCE THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WOULD REJECT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:02:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 10:03:05 PM

    MR. AMASH

    A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN WILL BE PRO-- WILL BE POSTPONE THE…

    OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN WILL BE PRO-- WILL BE POSTPONE THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 10:03:21 PM

    THE CLERK

    PAGE 14, LINE 14, NABBLE RECREATION AND PRESERVATION, $49,366,000.

  • 10:03:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

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    MS. NORTON

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK AND WAIVE THE READING.

  • 10:03:45 PM

    THE CLERK

    BY THE GENTLELADY FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., MS. NORTON.

  • 10:03:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY MAY PROCEED.

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    MS. NORTON

    MY AMENDMENT WOULD DESIGNATE $300 MILLION FOR A NATIONAL PARK SERVICE…

    MY AMENDMENT WOULD DESIGNATE $300 MILLION FOR A NATIONAL PARK SERVICE STUDY OF WHETHER APPLYING THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALL PARKS MAXIMIZES THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF INDIVIDUAL PARKS. THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE -- FOR THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE AND AMERICANS WHO USE OUR PARKS. THIS IS BUT A STUDY. AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO LOOK AT HOW N.P.S., CITIES, COUNTIES, AND STATES, AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTRIES, MANAGE THEIR DIVERSE PARKS AND TO SUGGEST FUNDS THE AVAILABLE BEST PRACTICES, APPROPRIATE WAYS TO HELP THEM MEET THE -- MEET THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE BASIC UNIFORMITY NECESSARY TO OPERATE A NATIONAL SYSTEM OF PARKS. TODAY, THE N.P.S. APPLIES THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALL ITS PARKS, REGARDLESS OF LOCATIONS FROM THE ALMOST 1,200 SQUARE MILE YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK TO SMALL URBAN PARKS ON STREET CORNERS. I SUPPORT A UNIFIED NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM BUT N.P.S. SHOULD DEVELOP FLEXIBLE STANDARDS THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AND POPULATION OF INDIVIDUAL PARKS. AND CHANGING CONDITIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. IN KEEPING WITH CONGRESSIONAL RECOGNITION OF THOSE CONSERVATION -- OF BOTH CONSERVATION AND RECREATION AS PRIMARY REASONS FOR OUR PARKS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, FOR EXAMPLE, SERVE A VERY DIFFERENT FUNCTION FROM YELLOWSTONE. DUPONT CIRCLE PARK IS A CENTRAL URBAN COMMUNITY MEETING PLACE IN THE DISTRICT, NOT A PLACE FOR ENJOYING THE GREENERY OF NATURE AS MUCH AS WE LOVE OUR PARKS. FOR THAT PURPOSE. ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU WILL FIND PEOPLE PLAYING CHESS, SUNBATHING, PLAYING FRIZZ BEE, OR PASSING OUT FLYERS. MADAM SPEAKER, I HAVE COME TO THE FLOOR BECAUSE I HAVE TRIED UNSUCCESSFULLY TO GET THE PARK SERVICE TO MAKE SMALL ADAPTATIONS, PERFECTLY COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR MISSION, TO ALLOW FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE PARKS IN MY OWN DISTRICT, AND I AM CERTAIN THAT OTHER MEMBERS HAVE FOUND SIMILAR ROADBLOCKS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARK SERVICE WON'T ALLOW BIKE SHARE STATIONS ON OR NEAR FEDERAL PARKS. AND THEY'RE NOT PERMITTING THE GOLF COURSES IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA TO BE RUN AS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. BOTH OF THESE EXAMPLES HAVE RUN INTO THE SAME ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL CONCESSION CONCERNS. YET THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE COULD NEGOTIATE CONCESSION AGREEMENTS THAT ACCOMMODATE BIKE SHARE IN THE FUTURE AND INFLEXIBILITY IN PARK SERVICE INSISTENCE ON CONCESSION CONTRACTS THAT DO NOT ALLOW CAPITAL INVESTMENT RESULTING IN AN ASTONISHING DETERIORATION OF INVALUABLE CAPITAL-INTENSIVE GOLF COURSES AND -- IN THE DISTRICT COULD GIVE WAY TO OTHER APPROACHES SUCH AS PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. OPERATING UNDER LONG-TERM LEASES. THAT WOULD ALLOW PRIVATE FUNDING TO ASSIST THE PARK SERVICE WITH UPGRADING AND MAINTAINING THESE PUBLIC ASSETS WITH CONGRESS, WHICH THE TAXPAYERS CAN'T POSSIBLY BUY THEMSELVES -- BY THEMSELVES MAINTAIN. INFLEXIBLE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL POLICIES KEEP AMERICANS FROM USING OUR PARKS FOR COMPATIBLE PURPOSES SUCH AS BIKE STATIONS OR WORSE, CONDEMN UNIQUE, CHI AYE CONNICK RESOURCES TO INEVITABLE DECLINE. MADAM SPEAKER, MY AMENDMENT IS OF THE LOWEST POSSIBLE COST. IT IS FOR A STUDY TO TELL US WHAT TO DO, TO TELL THE PARK SERVICE WHAT TO DO, TO ALLOW PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY IN VERY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND NEED TO USE OUR PARKS IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS JUST HOW THIS MUST BE DONE COMPATIBLE WITH A UNIFORM NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND I ASK THAT MY AMENDMENT BE APPROVED. I YIELD --

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  • 10:08:47 PM

    MS. NORTON

    I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 10:08:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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    MR. MORAN

    AS SOME TYPE OF EARMARK WHICH IT, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY IS. I MOVE TO…

    AS SOME TYPE OF EARMARK WHICH IT, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY IS. I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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  • 10:09:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    THE -- I LIKE WHAT THE GENTLELADY IS TRYING TO DO. I THINK IT'S -- IT'S…

    THE -- I LIKE WHAT THE GENTLELADY IS TRYING TO DO. I THINK IT'S -- IT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A CONSIDERATION BY THE PARK SERVICE OF WHETHER THEY ARE SUFFICIENTLY FLEXIBLE IN DEALING WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS A RECENT ARTICLE WRITTEN IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST TO BRING THE COMMUNITY INTO LOCAL PARKS, URBAN PARKS, WHERE FAR MORE PEOPLE COULD BE INVOLVED, PEOPLE COULD PARTICIPATE, PEOPLE COULD ENHANCE THE ENJOYMENT OF THINGS THAT TAKE PLACE. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A LARGE SOCCER EVENT AT A PARK THAT'S CRIMINALED BY THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. YOU COULD BRING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IN TO WATCH IT ON A LARGE SCREEN. THERE'S NO QUESTION BUT THAT WE COULD FIND WAYS TO DISCOURAGE AUTOMOBILES AND ENCOURAGE BIKES. HAVE BIKE -- BIKE-SHARING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE NATIONAL MALL SO PEOPLE COULD RENT BIKES AND BIKE AROUND THE MALL, IT WOULDN'T CAUSE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, IN FACT IT WOULD PRESERVE SOME OF THE LAWN ON OUR NATIONAL MALL AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY IT MORE AND GET A LITTLE EXERCISE. JUST ALL KINDS OF IDEAS. IT MIGHT BE PROPOSED BY COMMUNITIES. I REMEMBER BEING OUT IN WASHINGTON STATE, SAN JUAN ISLAND, AND THIS WAS A LITTLE PLACE, IT'S A NATIONAL PARK BECAUSE OF -- OF A BIZARRE MILITARY CONFLICT THAT OCCURRED OUT THERE, I WON'T GO INTO THE WHOLE MILITARY CONFLICT, BUT THE PEOPLE THERE LOVED THE BUNNY RABBITS THAT ARE THERE. THE PARK SERVICE DECIDED THAT THEY'RE REALLY NOT A NATIVE SPECIES, THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM, AND SO THE PARK SERVICE DECIDED THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE METHOD THEY USE OTHER PLACES AND FIRST OF ALL, THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD GAS THEM, WHICH THE COMMUNITY WAS SHOCKED BY. THEN THEY DECIDED, WELL, WE'LL SHOOT THEM AND SO ON, REDEUCE THE POPULATION. YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD JUST SAT DOWN WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, THEY COULD HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO KEEP THESE BUNNIES THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED, AVOID A WHOLE LOT OF NEGATIVE ATTITUDE WITH REGARD TO THE PARK SERVICE, AND ADVANCE -- IN FACT ENHANCE THE ENJOYMENT OF THIS LITTLE NATIONAL PARK OF SAN JUAN. I'M SURE THERE ARE EXAMPLES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, PROBABLY ALL OVER THE WORLD, BECAUSE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS ANY NUMBER OF PARKS OUTSIDE THE PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES OF OUR NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT. WE'VE GOT THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND SO ON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS MIGHT SUGGEST BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS. IDEAS THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THOUGHTFULLY AND SOME WILL BE REJECTED BUT SOME MIGHT WELL BE ACCEPTED. BUT THE PROCESS OF THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY INPUT, IT SEEMS TO ME, WOULD GENERATE EVEN MORE SUPPORT FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. IT'S A GREAT INSTITUTION. PARKS ARE ICONIC ASSETS TO OUR NATION. BUT YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COULD ENJOY THEM MORE AND APPRECIATE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE'S ROLE MORE IF WE HAD THE KIND OF DIALOGUE WITH THE PARK SERVICE THAT MS. NORTON IS SUGGESTING. I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN HAVING THAT KIND OF STUDY. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE GENTLELADY, MAYBE PUT TOGETHER SOME REPORT LANGUAGE, AT LEAST A LETTER TO THE HEAD OF THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE CONGRESS ITSELF IN A BIPARTISAN WAY THINKS WE OUGHT -- THINKS OUGHT TO BE EXPLORED. IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD LIKE ME TO YIELD TO HIM, UNLESS HE'D LAKE TO CLAIM HIS OWN TIME?

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  • 10:13:45 PM

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    THAT IT IS AN EARMARK. AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY WE COULD TALK ABOUT.

  • 10:13:57 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I AGREE WITH WHAT THE GENTLELADY IS TRYING TO DO HERE. I WILL TELL YOU THE…

    I AGREE WITH WHAT THE GENTLELADY IS TRYING TO DO HERE. I WILL TELL YOU THE RANKING MEMBER AND I WILL WORK WITH THE GENTLELADY FROM DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA TO RESOLVE THIS IN CONFERENCE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

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  • 10:14:17 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IS SMILE, SO I ACCEPT HER CONCURRENCE. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IN THAT FASHION…

    IS SMILE, SO I ACCEPT HER CONCURRENCE. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IN THAT FASHION IF THE GENTLELADY DOESN'T MIND WITHDRAWING HER AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:14:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY RISE.

  • 10:14:36 PM

    MS. NORTON

    THE REMARKS OF THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBER AND IN LIGHT OF THOSE…

    THE REMARKS OF THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBER AND IN LIGHT OF THOSE REMARKS WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT AND WILL WORK WITH THEM TO IMPLEMENT IT IN OTHER WAYS. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE WITHDRAWN.

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  • 10:14:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN.

  • 10:15:00 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES JAM RISE?

  • 10:15:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE DESK.

  • 10:15:21 PM

    THE CLERK

    BY MR. CARTER, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT DECREASE BY $1 MILLION.

  • 10:15:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 10:15:35 PM

    MR. CARTER

    AN AMENDMENT THAT IS PUT TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT…

    AN AMENDMENT THAT IS PUT TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT PRIORITIZE ITS EFFORTS TO CONSTRUCT A JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER TO NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AVAILABLE FUNDS. NATIONAL PARK LANDS ON OUR SOUTHERN BORDER ARE EXPERIENCING A GIGANTIC INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT HAS CROSSED INTO OUR PARKLAND. THE REASON FOR THIS IS SIMILAR TO GRABBING A BEAN BAG AND SCREEZING IT AND IT BULGES OUT AT SOME POINT. AS WE TIGHTEN OUR SOUTHERN BORDER WITH THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS BY THIS CONGRESS, IT CAUSES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO HAVE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY TO MOVE FARTHER OUT INTO THE UNOCCUPIED AREAS AND THEY ARE MOVING INTO OUR NATIONAL PARKS. THE JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTERS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO SERVE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UNITED STATES CUSTOMS AND BORDER PATROL, POSSIBLY EVEN THE COAST GUARD THERE ON THE RIVER AT THAT BORDER. FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT MAY BE NEEDED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND BEEN AGREED UPON AND BEEN APPROVED. ADDITIONAL RANGERS AND PATROL MEN HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED AND COMPENSATED FOR WORKING DOWN THERE BUT THEY LACK SERIOUS FACILITIES WITHIN WHICH TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. ONE EXAMPLE WHERE WE SENT A GROUP DOWN THERE TO SEE WHAT NEEDS MAY BE NEEDED ON OUR SOUTHERN BORDER, EIGHT BORDER PATROL MEN THAT WERE WORKING IN A FACILITY WITH 288 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INADEQUATE AND IF THEY WERE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARKS SERVICE, THERE WAS NO ROOM FOR THE PARKS SERVICE TO STAND IN THE BUILDING. THIS IS SOME JUMP START BY DEDICATING $1 MILLION TO THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE CONSTRUCTION FUND FOR F.Y. 2012 TO JUMP START THE PROJECT ALREADY AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS OF INTERIOR AND HOMELAND SECURITY. WE ARE CONFIDENT WITH THIS SHOT IN THE ARM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THESE SEPTEMBERERS AS THEY MAY BE AVAILABLE, CONSTRUCTED. AND IT IS NOT A PLACE FOR THESE FOLKS TO WORK, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF OUR SOUTHERN BORDER FROM ALL THE WAY ACROSS, ULL SEE WHEN IT COMES TO -- THERE'S NO PLACE TO HOLD PRISONERS WHEN THEY ARE CAPTURED. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TRANSPORT THEM. MANY INSTANCES, THIS TRANSPORTATION IS 100, 150 MILES TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BE SECURED. AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY DETENTION SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE BORDER PATROL RUNNING BACK AND FORTH 150 MILES EVERY TIME THERE IS A DETENTION NEEDED. THIS IS A FACILITY THAT REALLY WILL AID WHAT WE ALREADY PROVIDED, WHISPER SON NELL TO HELP DEFEND OUR SOUTHERN -- WHICH IS PERSONNEL TO HELP DEFEND OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.

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  • 10:19:16 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

  • 10:19:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 10:19:31 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE LAST WORD.

  • 10:19:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    THIS BUT TO POINT OUT SOME DEFICIENCIES IN THE AMENDMENT ITSELF. THE CLAIM…

    THIS BUT TO POINT OUT SOME DEFICIENCIES IN THE AMENDMENT ITSELF. THE CLAIM IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE PRIORITIZE IS CONSTRUCTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTERS ON NATIONAL PARK LANDS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER IN COORDINATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS SOME FEELING NATIONAL PARKS OUGHT NOT HAVE BASICALLY PRISON SITES ON THEM BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE ARE ROUNDED UP BY THE BORDER PATROL, THEY ARE TAKEN TO THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTERS AND DETAINED AND THEN THEY'RE MOVED TO ANOTHER PLACE. BUT THEY WOULD BE TEMPORARILY DETAINED AT THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTERS AND THERE IS SOME FEELING THAT NATIONAL PARKS ARE NOT AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THAT PURPOSE. BUT THE VERY WORDING OF THE AMENDMENT DOESN'T REALLY DO THAT. IT INCREASES MONEY AND DECREASES THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF IT DID IT, IT WOULD BE AN EARMARK. AND OF COURSE, WE DON'T DO EARMARKS IN THIS BILL. SO AS I SAY, I DON'T RISE IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES, BUT I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO BE INFORMED AS TO WHAT IT DOESN'T DO. AND I YIELD BACK. MR.

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  • 10:21:20 PM

    MR. CARTER

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    MR. MORAN

    THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACED IN THE AREA THAT HE REPRESENTS. I KNOW -- I…

    THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACED IN THE AREA THAT HE REPRESENTS. I KNOW -- I WAS SIMILARLY CONFUSED, THOUGH, WHEN THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO STRIP FUNDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HIT OCCASION BETWEEN THE HOMELAND SECURITY AND INTERIOR DEPARTMENTS PREVIOUSLY THAT THE GENTLEMAN SUGGESTED AND I THINK WAS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING SO. IT'S NOT AN AREA I'M FAMILIAR WITH, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THIS AMENDMENT ACCOMPLISHES ANYTHING BUT DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:24:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE.

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  • 10:24:52 PM

    MR. MICA

    THE CLERK WILL --

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    THE CHAIR

    YES, WE DID.

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    THE CLERK

    20, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND $49,500,000. CONSTRUCTION $152,121,000.…

    20, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND $49,500,000. CONSTRUCTION $152,121,000. LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND --

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  • 10:26:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE.

  • 10:26:03 PM

    MR. MICA

    AT THE DESK.

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    MR. DICKS

    COPY OF THE GENTLEMAN ON AMENDMENT. AND USUALLY THE PROTOCOL --

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    MR. MICA

    THIS ONE IN.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MR. MICA OF FLORIDA, PAGE 15, LINE 8, INSERT INCREASED BY $2 MILLION,…

    BY MR. MICA OF FLORIDA, PAGE 15, LINE 8, INSERT INCREASED BY $2 MILLION, PAGE 65, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT DECREASED BY $2 MILLION.

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  • 10:26:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 10:26:43 PM

    MR. MICA

    MADAM CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLERK READING THIS AMENDMENT. I'M…

    MADAM CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLERK READING THIS AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY THAT THE MINORITY DID NOT HAVE A COPY OF THIS FINE AMERICA. IT WAS MODIFIED SLIGHTLY FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN TO BE IN ORDER. LET ME SAY AT THIS LATE HOUR, I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME, I'M FROM THE AUTHORIZING SIDE AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO COME HERE AND HEAR THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THE APPROPRIATORS HAVE IN CHIGE TO MAKE CHOICES AND TONIGHT IS ABOUT MAKING CHOICES AND I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT MR. SIMPSON, THE CHAIR OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE CHAIR, THE RANKING MEMBERS, MR. MONTH MORAN AND MR. DICKS AND THEIR EFFORTS MAKING THESE DIFFICULT CHOICES IN SOME VERY TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES. AND NORMALLY, I WOULDN'T COME HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT AGAIN COMING FROM A STATE THAT HAS SOME 11 PARKS AND PRESERVES AND NATIONAL MON YOUMENTS, I HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN SOME OF THESE ACCOUNTS. WE ALL HAVE TO SET PRIORITIES. THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, I NOTICED, HAS HAD I GUESS IN 2010, JUST UNDER $11 BILLION THAT'S BEING CUT TO $9.8 BILLION, 7% REDUCTION. PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT TRANSPORTATION PRODUCTIONS, WHETHER IT IS F.A.A., TRANSPORTATION. I'M REDUCING SOME OF THE ACCOUNTS BY 30% IN AUTHORIZATIONS, SO I KNOW THE DIFFICULTY YOU ARE FACING. I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER ACCOUNTS, E.P.A., PEOPLE WOULD BE SHOCKED TO FIND THAT E.P.A. HAS $7.1 BILLION IN THIS BILL, QUITE A BIT TO OPERATE THIS AGENCY. THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS $2.5 BILLION. I THINK IF YOU ASK PEOPLE ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THE DOLLARS, I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING VERY TANGIBLE. THEY APPRECIATE THE NATIONAL PARKS. AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE DIFFICULT PRIORITIES. MY AMENDMENT IS SIMPLE, TAKES $2 MILLION OUT OF E.P.A.'S ACCOUNT FOR MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS AND IT TRANSFERS IT TO THE NATIONAL PARKS CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNT. NOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO RESOLVE A $10 BILLION BACKLOG IN MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. AND I COULD GIVE YOU EXAMPLES, JUST A FEW MILES FROM HERE, HARPERS FERRY THAT A $59 MILLION DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ACCOUNT PENDING, FLORIDA WITH ITS 11 PARKS AND PRESERVES AND NATIONAL MON YOUMENTS HAS A $4 MILLION BACKLOG AND MY AMENDMENT WOULD SOLVE FLORIDA'S PROBLEM. CLOSER TO MY DISTRICT AND I THANK THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE AND CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND STAFF FOR WORKING WITH ME, WE ARE ATTEMPTING AFTER AUTHORIZATION, IN 2004, TO FINALLY FINISH A VISITORS' CENTER AND MAKE SURE THAT THE VISITORS' CENTER AND THE BACKLOG OF FLORIDA'S 11 PARKS AND NATIONAL MONUMENTS, THEIR MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THAT WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE. THAT'S WHY I OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT. YOU HAVE DIFFICULT CHOICES. THIS WON'T RESOLVE THE PENDING NEED EITHER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR NATIONALLY. THAT BEING SAID, AND ALSO STATING MY POSITION AND INTENT AND KNOWING THAT THE COMMITTEE AND I KNOW MR. SIMPSON IS ANXIOUS TO WORK WITH ME AND IS COMMITTED TO WORK WITH ME, MR. HASTINGS AND STAFF AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND NOT PRESSING THE ISSUE BEYOND MY ABILITY TO RETAIN MY FRIENDSHIP AND STRONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP, I'M GOING TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT THIS HOUR TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:31:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. . THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    PAGE 15, LINE 9, LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. AUTHORITY PROVIDED FOR…

    PAGE 15, LINE 9, LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. AUTHORITY PROVIDED FOR 2012 I BI16 U.S.C. IS HEREBY RESCINDED. LAND ACCUSATION AND STATE ASSISTANCE. $18,294,000. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS. IN ADDITION, FRANCHISE FEES CREDITED TO A SUBACCOUNT SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR EXPENDITURE BY THE SECRETARY. NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FUNDS MAY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. SURVEYS, INVESTIGATIONS AND RESEARCH, $1,053,552,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS, THE AMOUNT APPROPRIATED SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION FOR SECURITY GUARD SERVICES. BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT. REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT, OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT. $138,605,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. FOR AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT $10 MILLION TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL EXPENDED. OIL SPILL RESEARCH. $14,923,000. OFFICE OF SURFACE MINING RECLAMATION AND ENFORCEMENT, REGULATION AND TECHNOLOGY, $123,050,000. ABANDONED MINE RECLAMATION FUND. $27,443,000. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISION. WITH FUNDS IN THIS ACT, THE SECRETARY MAY TRANSFER TITLE FOR COMPUTER HARDWARE TO STATE AND TRIBAL REGULATORY AND RECLAMATION PROGRAMS. BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS AND BUREAU OF INDIAN EDUCATION, $2,333,690,000. TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. CONSTRUCTION. $154,992,000. INDIAN LAND AND WATER CLAIM SETTLEMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS PAYMENTS TO INDIANS, $32,855,000. INDIAN GUARANTEED LOAN PROGRAM ACCOUNT. $8,114,000. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS. THE BUREAU MAY CARRY OUT PROGRAMS BY DIRECT EXPENDITURE.

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  • 10:34:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE IN

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    MR. FLAKE

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT --

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    DOES THE GENTLEMAN SEEK TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT OR STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN SEEK TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT OR STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND TALK ABOUT MY AMENDMENT. WE'RE NOT QUITE TO THE…

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND TALK ABOUT MY AMENDMENT. WE'RE NOT QUITE TO THE MEMBER'S AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE TO READ.

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  • 10:34:58 PM

    THE CLERK

    ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS, THE BUREAU MAY CARRY OUT PROGRAMS BY DIRECT…

    ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS, THE BUREAU MAY CARRY OUT PROGRAMS BY DIRECT EXPENDITURE. THE BUREAU MAY CONTRACT FOR SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF THE POWER DIVISION OF THE SAN CARLOS IRRIGATION PROJECT. APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE BUREAU SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR EXPENSES OF EXHIBITS. NO FUNDS AVAILABLE TO THE BUREAU SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR CONTRACTS. IN THE EVENT ANY TRIBE RETURNS APPROPRIATIONS TO THE BUREAU, THIS ACTION SHALL NOT DIMINISH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S TRUST RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT TRIBE. OTHER THAN AMOUNTS PROVIDED UNDER --

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  • 10:35:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE TO READ.

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    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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    WE WANT TO RESERVE A POINT OF ORDER.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT OF ORDER WILL BE -- IS RESERVED. THE CLERK WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT OF ORDER WILL BE -- IS RESERVED. THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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  • 10:36:13 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR OF ARIZONA. PAGE 31, LINES TWO THROUGH 10, STRIKE…

    OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR OF ARIZONA. PAGE 31, LINES TWO THROUGH 10, STRIKE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE AND ALL THAT FOLLOWS THROUGH THAT PERIOD BUT AND INSERT A CHARTER SCHOOL AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN SECTION 1141 OF THE EDUCATION AMENDMENTS OF 1978, 25 U.S.C. 2021, MAY OPERATE.

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  • 10:36:44 PM

    MR. DICKS

    TO MAKE A POINT OF ORDER. WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE GENTLEMAN'S…

    TO MAKE A POINT OF ORDER. WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DISTRIBUTE COPIES, AND THE POINT OF ORDER IS RESERVED. THE…

    CLERK WILL DISTRIBUTE COPIES, AND THE POINT OF ORDER IS RESERVED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:36:58 PM

    MR. GOSAR

    AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENTIREOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL…

    AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENTIREOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL STATES THAT EDUCATION FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE UNDER THIS ACT MAY NOT BE USED TO ESTABLISH A CHARTER SCHOOL AND A BUREAU FUNDED SCHOOL. MY AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW MONEY APPROPRIATED UNDER IN -- UNDER THIS BILL TO BE USED FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS. IT GRANDFATHERS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS FUNDED PRIOR TO 1999 BUT ALLOWS NO NEW CHARTER SCHOOLS. THE COMMITTEE REPORT IS SILENT ON THIS. CHILDREN MADE UP 1.5 MILLION OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION. THEY AND THEIR PARENTS THE SERVE CHOICE IN EDUCATION. CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE SCHOOLS USUALLY OPERATED BY PARENTS, ENTREPRENEURS AN OTHERS. A TOE TL OF 40 STATES AND THE TEXAS D.C. HAVE PASSED -- HAVE PASSED CHARTER SCHOOL LAWS ALLOWING THESE SCHOOLS TO BE PART OF THEIR SYSTEM. I BELIEVE ADMINISTRATORS OF SUCH SCHOOLS MAY WORRY ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES FOR STUDENTS WHO TRANSFER BETWEEN A CHARTER SCHOOL AND NONCHARTER SCHOOL AN THE MONEYS APPROPRIATED. THIS IS SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS OWNERSHIP OF THE STUDENT. SUCH ADMINISTRATIVE CONCERNS SHOULD NOT BE A BASIS TO BAN THIS OPTION. COMPETENT ADMINISTRATORS CAN WORK OUT TRANSITIONAL ISSUES. FURTHER, TO THE EX-TO TENT SOMEONE DOES LIKE NOT -- DOES NOT LIKE CHARTER SCHOOL, SO BIT, DON'T SEND YOUR KIDS TO ONE. BUT WE SHOULD NOT PICK WINNERS AN LOSERS. CHARTER SCHOOLS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO TRIBES THAT WANT THEM. IF A TRIBE CHOOSES NOT TO OFFER CHARTER SCHOOLS, THAT'S ITS DECISION. THERE'S NO REASON IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL TO FORECLOSE THIS OPTION. WE SHOULD NOT IMPOSE OUR PERSONAL LIKES AN DISLIKES ON OTHERS. IT IS MY FURTHER BELIEF THAT ALLOWING TRIBES THE MAXIMUM ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE BEST EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM IS CONSISTENT WITH SELF-DETERMINATION. HAVING THE RIGHT TO DECIDE LOCAL SCHOOL DECISIONS IS A PART OF SELF-DETERMINATION AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE IN CONGRESS WOULD DENY THAT RIGHT. A KEY PART OF SELF-DETERMINATION IS CHOOSING THE MANNER IN WHICH TRIBES EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN. AS FAR BACK AS 1970, PRESIDENT NIXON ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE AND STATED, IT IS LONG PAST TIME THAT THE INDIAN POLICIES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEGAN TO RECOGNIZE AND BUILD UPON THE INSIGHTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BOTH AS A MATTER OF JUSTICE AND A MATTER OF ENLIGHTENED SOCIAL POLICY, WE MUST BEGIN TO ACT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT THE INDIANS THEMS HAVE LONG BEEN TELLING US. THE TIME HAS COME TO BREAK DECISIVELY WITH THE PAST AND CREATE CONDITIONS FOR A NEW ERA IN WHICH THE INDIAN FUTURE IS DETERMINED BY INDIAN ACTS AND DECISIONS. THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS DID WHEN IT PASSED THE EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE ACT OF 1975, ALLOWING THE TRIBES TO CHOOSE A CHARTER SCHOOL OPTION MAKES SENSE FROM A SELF-DETERMINATION PERSPECTIVE. FINALLY, ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR EDUCATIONAL REFORM, THERE ARE OVER 5,000 CHARTER SCHOOLS NATIONWIDE. THERE ARE CHARTER SCHOOLS WITH SPECTACULAR SUCCESSES AND RESULTS. I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE FAILED IN THEIR MISSION. THE POINT HERE, HOWEVER, IS ABOUT CHOICE AND ALLOWING TRIBES TO DECIDE WHAT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THEY WANT TO CREATE. IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE SCHOOLS OF CHOICE, UNLIKE TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS, STUDENT MACE CHOOSE TO ATTEND CHARTER SCHOOLS AND IF THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT SERVING THEIR NEEDS THEY MAY CHOOSE TO LEAVE. IT IS TRUE THAT MANY CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE LONGER SCHOOL DAY, LONGER SCHOOL YEARS AND HIGHER ACADEMIC AND BEHAVIORAL EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR STUVENES. FOR THOSE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CURRENT PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, CHARTER SCHOOLS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. BUT LET'S ALLOW THE TRIBES TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. IT IS CONGRESS' DUTY TO ALLOW AND DESCRIBE SUCH CHOICES AS PART OF OUR TREATIES WITH THE AMERICAN TRIBAL RELATIONS AND HOW THEY ARE GOVERNED. I ASK FOR SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND FOR INDIAN SELF-DETERMINATION AND SCHOOL CHOICE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:41:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    MR. SIMPSON

    WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS NEW TERRITORY IN OUR…

    WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS NEW TERRITORY IN OUR BILL BUT I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA'S WORK ON THIS AND HIS INTEREST IN PROVIDING QUALITY EDUCATION FOR OUR NATIVE AMERICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. IT'S A DEEP CONCERN THAT I SHARE ALSO AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE THIS DOES WHAT'S INTENDED TO PROVIDE WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR OUR INDIAN POPULATION SO THAT THEY HAVE THE ADVANTAGES THAT ALL OF US HAVE. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR OFFERING THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:41:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON -- DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON -- DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON WISH TO CONTINUE TO RESERVE HIS POINT OF ORDER?

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  • 10:41:59 PM

    MR. DICKS

    MY POINT OF ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.

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    THE CHAIR

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    MR. DICKS

    IN YOUR AMENDMENT IT SAYS FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE AND ALL THAT FOLLOWS…

    IN YOUR AMENDMENT IT SAYS FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE AND ALL THAT FOLLOWS THROUGH THAT PERIOD BUT, AND INSERT A CHARTER SCHOOL AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN SECTION 1141 OF THE EDUCATION AMENDMENTS OF 1978. COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THAT DEFINITION IS, PLEASE?

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  • 10:42:35 PM

    MR. GOSAR

    LOOKING THAT UP, MY COLLEAGUE FROM WASHINGTON. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE…

    LOOKING THAT UP, MY COLLEAGUE FROM WASHINGTON. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE LAPTOP AT THIS POINT.

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  • 10:42:43 PM

    MR. DICKS

    NO IDEA WHAT THIS AMENDMENT MEANS?

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    MR. GOSAR

    FOR CHOICE OF CHARTER SCHOOLS AS DEFINED AS CHARTER SCHOOLS.

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    MR. GOSAR

    THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN UP TO 1999 BUT NO PROVISIONS WERE ALLOWED PAST…

    THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN UP TO 1999 BUT NO PROVISIONS WERE ALLOWED PAST 1999.

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  • 10:43:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 10:43:34 PM

    THE CLERK

    SUCH GRANTEE USING SECTION 5F DISTRIBUTION FORMULA. DEPARTMENTAL OFFICES,…

    SUCH GRANTEE USING SECTION 5F DISTRIBUTION FORMULA. DEPARTMENTAL OFFICES, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY, DEPARTMENTAL OPERATIONS, $250,151,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013.

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  • 10:43:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS RISE?

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    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DOLD OF ILLINOIS. PAGE 32, LINE 12, AFTER THE…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DOLD OF ILLINOIS. PAGE 32, LINE 12, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT REDUCE BY $24,700,000. PAGE 65, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT, INCREASED BY $24,700,000. PAGE 65, LINE 21, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT, INCREASED BY $24,700,000.

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  • 10:44:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DOLD

    MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU. I RISE TODAY TO RESTORE FUNDING TO THE GREAT…

    MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU. I RISE TODAY TO RESTORE FUNDING TO THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE RECEIVED STEEP CUTS IN THIS YEAR'S INTERIOR BILL. MY AMENDMENT WOULD SIMPLY RESTORE HALF OF THE FUNDING THAT WAS CUT. THIS AMENDMENT IS PART OF A TWO-STEP PROCESS TO RESTORE FUNDING TO THE DEMRAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE. THIS AMENDMENT TRANSFERS FUNDS FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL OFFICE'S ACCOUNT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT AND WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY A SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENT TO SPECIFY -- AND TO INCREASE THIS FUNDING TO THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVISM DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAS SHOWN, THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE IN THE PAST, AND I'M THANKFUL IT DOES REMAIN A PRIORITY WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS ACCOUNT. HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO RESTORE SOME FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE GREAT LAKES. . THE GREAT LAKES HOLD 95% OF THE UNITED STATES' SURFACE FRESH WATER AND SOURCE OF CLEAN DRINKING WATER TO OVER 30 MILLION PEOPLE. FROM THE BEAUTIFUL BEACHES, WIDE OPEN WATERS TO THE BLUFFS AND DO YOU KNOWS, THE GREAT LAKES PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND IMPORTANT PART OF THE PHYSICAL LANDSCAPE AND CULTURAL HERITAGE OF NORTH AMERICA. IT PROVIDES RAW MATERIALS AND FINISHED GOODS, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO JOBS AND A STRONGER ECONOMY. THE GREAT LAKES INITIATIVE IS RESTORING THE HEALTH AND VITALITY OF OUR GREAT LAKES. IN MY DISTRICT, THE 10TH DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE GREAT LAKES ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. HOWEVER, THE ECOSYSTEM IS SHOWING SIGNS OF SERIOUS STRESS AND ACTION IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE, REHABILITATE AND MAKE OUR GREAT LAKES BETTER. AS A SCOUT MASTER, I TEACH THE BOY SCOUTS THE PRINCIPLES OF LEAVING AREAS BETTER THAN WHEN WE FOUND IT. THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION IS AN IMPORTANT AVENUE TO RESTORE OUR LAKES SO THEY CAN REMAIN THE CROWN JEWEL. BUT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE GREAT LAKES, WE NEED THE INITIATIVE TO HELP TACKLE THE CHALLENGES. FIRST TOXIC SUBSTANCES ARE POLLUTING THE WATER AND THIS IS HELPING WITH CLEANUP. INVASIVE SPECIES ARE CAUSING ECOLOGICAL STRESS ON THE LAKES AND THE INITIATIVE INSTITUTES A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY SO ASIAN CARP CANNOT BE ESTABLISHED. WE MUST ENSURE THE POLLUTION DOES NOT IMPAIR WATER QUALITY. AND THE INITIATIVE WORKS TO RESTORE DEGRADED WETLANDS AND WILDLIFE HABITATS. I ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN LIPINSKI INTRODUCED THE WATER PROTECTION ACT WHICH WOULD PROTECT LAKE MICHIGAN FROM WASTEWATER DISCHARGES FROM PROHIBITING PUBLIC WORKS FROM DISTRIBUTING WASTEWATER SYSTEMS TO BUYPASS THE TREATMENT FACILITY. THIS IS ONE MORE STEP MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE ARE TAKING TO FIGHT FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR LAKES AND YET DESPITE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS, THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS CRITICAL INITIATIVE IS OVER HALF OF WHAT IT RECEIVED IN 2010 AND 49.4 MILLION BELOW THE 2010 ENACTED LEVEL. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TASKED WITH AND THEY ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FUNDING OUR NATION'S PRIORITIES. MY AMENDMENT ONLY SEEKS TO RESTORE HALF OF THE $50 MILLION CUT THAT THE GREAT LAKES INITIATIVE RECEIVED IN THIS BORROWER BILL. I BELIEVE THE GREAT LAKES ARE AT RISK AND WE MUST RESTORE FUNDING SO THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION FUNDING CAN RESTORE FUNDING FOR DECADES TO COME. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:48:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 10:48:59 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    HAD TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS IN THIS BILL. I BELIEVE EVERY GEOGRAPHICAL…

    HAD TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS IN THIS BILL. I BELIEVE EVERY GEOGRAPHICAL PROGRAM HAD REDUCED FUNDING IN THIS BILL. LAST YEAR THEY WERE FUNDED AT $300 MILLION AND THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED $350 MILLION AND WE FUNDED IT AT $250 MILLION AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN NOR OFFERING HIS AMENDMENT, THE FACT IS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. AND THE OFFSET OF THAT IS $24 MILLION OUT OF THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT WHICH WE TOOK $20 MILLION. I DON'T BELIEVE THE SECRETARY IS SPLEEPING WELL. PRETTY SOON HE WON'T HAVE MONEY LEFT IN HIS OFFICE SO THAT IS A PROBLEM. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO. IT'S THE OFFSET AND TRYING TO GET $20 MILLION OUT OF THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT THAT CAUSES A PROBLEM. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES REJECT THIS AMENDMENT AS WE WORK ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO FUND THOSE PROGRAMS THAT DO PROTECT THE GREAT WATER BODIES IN THIS COUNTRY. APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. BUT I HAVE TO RISE IN OPPOSITION TO IT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:50:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    MR. DOLD

    RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 10:51:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DEATH DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    44 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. REED OF NEW YORK.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. REED REED I -- MR.

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    MR. REED

    AN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT TO THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL…

    AN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT TO THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL WITH THE INTENT TO RETURN FUNDING TO THE FOREST HEALTH MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT UNDER STATE AND PRIVATE FOFFERS TRY. WHAT WE ARE INTENDING TO DO IS TO MOVE MONEY FROM THE D.C. BUREAUCRACY AND I ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE A CONCERN RAISED ABOUT THE OFFSET OF THE LINE THAT WE'RE USING TO COVER THIS INCREASE IN THE FOREST HEALTH MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT FROM THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT. BUT I FIRMLY DO BELIEVE THAT OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BETTER SPENT NOT ON THE BUREAUCRACY OF THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY ON THE FRONT LINES AND INTO THE STATES THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE PROGRAMS. THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS TO RESTORE THE FUNDING FOR THE PURPOSES OF WEEDING OUT INVASIVE SPECIES WHICH THREATEN MANY INDUSTRIES AND OUR ENVIRONMENT ACROSS THE NATION. ESSENTIALLY, INVASIVE SPECIES THREATEN ECONOMIES AND ENVIRONMENTS IN EVERY STATE AND EVERY DISTRICT THAT WE REPRESENT. THE WORK DONE BY THE FOREST SERVICE BY THE OUTREACH IS IMPERATIVE TO THE PREVENTION AND EARLY DETECTION OF NONNATIVE INVASIVE SPECIES. ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH IN OUR DISTRICT IN THE NEW YORK 29TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS THE BEETLE WHICH CAN DECIMATE FORESTS ACROSS OUR DISTRICT. THEY HAVE CAUSED DISRUPTION ON ECONOMIES AND JOB PRODUCERS. RESEARCH ESTIMATES WE HAVE REVIEWED, ININDICATE THAT AFFECTED TREES COULD TOTAL $10 BILLION SHOULD THIS PEST CONTINUE TO SPREAD. THEY ARE WORKING TO MAINTAIN AND ADDRESS SO THAT FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS ARE NOT DIVERTED FROM OTHER MEANINGFUL INITIATIVES. WORKING WITH INDIVIDUAL STATES, THE FOREST HEALTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS ARE PART OF AN EFFORT TO PROTECT FOREST AND GRASSLANDS WHERE THEIR EFFORTS CAN BE MOST EFFECTIVE, IN THE FIELD AND FRONT LINE RATHER THAN HERE BEHIND A DESK IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THIS FAR OUTWEIGHS THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS TO WLOTE THE FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY. AND I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND JOIN IN THIS BIPARTISAN EFFORT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS THAT IS MAKING DIFFICULT DECISIONS BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS ISSUE AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GET MONEY FROM D.C. INTO THE FIELDS AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF INVASIVE SPECIES THAT THREATENS ECONOMIES AND INDUSTRIES ACROSS THE NATION. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:54:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES IDAHO RISE? THE…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES IDAHO RISE? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:54:47 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK'S OBSERVATION THAT WE ARE WORKING…

    APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK'S OBSERVATION THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH SOME VERY DIFFICULT NUMBERS AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND THIS IS AN ACCOUNT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, THE INVASIVE SPECIES AND TRYING TO CONTROL THEM ACROSS THIS COUNTRY IS OF HIGH IMPORTANCE AND IT IS IMPORTANT IN IDAHO AND OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THIS ACCOUNT BY 2.5%. SOME OTHER ACCOUNTS, E.P.A.'S ACCOUNTS DOWN 18% AND SOME OTHER THINGS. MOST ACCOUNTS RECEIVED SUBSTANTIALLY LESS FUNDING AND WHERE YOU ARE TAKING THIS MONEY FROM IN THE LAST AMENDMENT, THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY IS FUNDED IN THIS BILL $33.5 MILLION BELOW THE BUDGET'S REQUEST BEFORE WE TOOK OUT ANOTHER $20 MILLION IN ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO PUT IT IN THE WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION FUND. WE ADD TO THIS IT AND BE DOWN $62 MILLION. SOMETIMES WHAT APPEAR TO BE SMALL AMOUNTS ADD UP IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECRETARY'S OFFICE THAT FUNCTIONS, WE HAVE TO KEEP ENOUGH RESOURCES THERE SO HE CAN DO HIS JOB AND WHILE I APPRECIATE WHAT THE JAB IS TRYING TO DO AND SYMPATHESIZE WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO AND SUPPORT THE EFFORT WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO, THE OFFSET AFFECTS AN ACCOUNT WE HAVE REDUCED ALREADY. I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:56:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 10:56:28 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE…

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I RISE TO AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE JUST AS I DID WITH THE LAST AMENDMENT. THE IDEA OF A BLOATED BUREAUCRACY WHEN YOU'VE TAKEN $53 MILLION OUT OF THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE, IT SEEMS TO ME IS MISPLACED. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GIVING THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR FAR MORE RESPONSIBILITY. AND NOW AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, WE SEEM TO BE CUTTING THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO FULFILL THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. ALREADY TONIGHT, WE HAVE TAKEN 20 MILLION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT. JUST AS I DID WITH THE PRIOR AMENDMENT, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS AND ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THEM SO I WON'T TAKE ANY MORE OF THE BODY'S TIME. I YIELD MY TIME.

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  • 10:57:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 10:57:51 PM

    MR. REED

    A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 10:58:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 10:58:23 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 10:58:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    LOUISIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 10:58:50 PM

    MR. SCALISE

    TAKE $420,000 FROM THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT AND MOVING IT INTO THE ACCOUNT…

    TAKE $420,000 FROM THE SECRETARY'S ACCOUNT AND MOVING IT INTO THE ACCOUNT TO REDUCE THE NATION'S DEFICIT AND OVER THE LAST YEAR SINCE THE DEEPWATER HORIZON EXPLODED, THE ADMINISTRATION CAME OUT WITH A POLICY THAT IMPOSED A MORATORIUM ON DRILLING, A MORATORIUM THAT WAS FOUND BY FEDERAL COURTS TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE LAW, THE ADMINISTRATION UNFORTUNATELY WENT FORWARD WITH THAT MORATORIUM, COSTING THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS, HURTING AMERICA'S ENERGY SECURITY AND AFTER THE LIFTING OF THE MORATORIUM, THEY MAINTAINED A PERMITORIUM, TO REFUSE TO EXPLORE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. NOT ONLY HAS IT COST OUR NATION THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF JOBS AND WE ARE NOW MORE DEPENDENT ON MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES FOR OIL. HIGHER PRICES AT THE PUMPS AND THERE HAS BEEN NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR POLICIES THAT HAVE LED TO THIS DESTRUCTION OF OUR ECONOMIC WELL-BEING AND ECONOMIC SECURITY AS IT RELATES TO AMERICAN ENERGY AND AS IT RELATES TO JOBS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. NOW IF YOU WANT TO GET DOWN TO THE DETAILS OF THIS AMENDMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SAID FOR A LONG TIME IS, A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES, BIG EMPLOYERS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME EXPLORING SAFELY FOR AMERICAN ENERGY, THEY WANT TO EXPLORE FOR AMERICAN ENERGY AND GO BACK TO WORK BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF ADMINISTRATION POLICIES. BUT WHAT IS MORE ABSURD IS, WHILE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS HAD THIS PERMITORIUM WHERE THEY WON'T LET PEOPLE GO BACK TO WORK, THEY HAVE ALLOWED THE CLOCK TO CONTINUE TICKING ON THE LEASES. YOU HAVE A 10-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING, YOU CAN'T PROPERLY DEVELOP YOUR LEASE, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING IF THEY SAID WE ARE GOING TO STOP THE CLOCK WHERE WE AS A ADMINISTRATION GO FORWARD. ALL OF OUR EXPERTS HAVE SAID IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY AND HURTING NOT ONLY AMERICAN ENERGY PRODUCTION BUT AMERICAN JOBS. BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THEY WILL LET THE CLOCK RUN. IF YOU ARE PLAYING A BNL GAME AND THE REFEREE IS HOLDING THE CLOCK AND YOU SAY I WANT TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND THE REFEREE IS HOLDING THE BALL AND THE CLOCK CONTINUES TO RUN AND THAT IS NOT FAIR. AND THE ADMINISTRATION -- AND THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO DO THIS. THE HOUSE PASSED LEGISLATION, PUTTING THE GULF OF MEXICO BACK TO WORK ACT THIS LEGISLATION WE PASSED HERE IN THE HOUSE WITH A BIPARTISAN VOTE, SENT TO THE SENATE, THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION IN THE SENATE BUT WHAT THIS DID, AMONGST OTHER THINGS, IS ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM. INSTEAD OF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO TELL RESPONSIBLE COMPANIES WHO ARE TRYING TO GO BACK TO WORK, WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY BY THEIR OWN RULES, THEN THE CLOCK STOPS WHILE THE ADMINISTRATION DENIES THEM THE ABILITY TO BE PERMITTED. AND SO THE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED ADDRESSED THIS BUT THE SENATE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, REFUSES TO TAKE IT UP, GEP, COSTING OUR COUNTRY THOUSANDS OF GOOD, HIGH-PAYING JOBS, AND HURTING AMERICA'S ENERGY SECURITY, MAKING US MORE DEPENDENT ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL. WHAT WE'RE SAYING WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS, IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO CONTINUE GOING FORWARD WITH A RADICAL POLICY WHICH A MAJORITY OF THE PRESIDENT'S OWN HAND-PICKED SCIENTISTS IN HIS REPORT RIGHT AFTER THE EXPLOSION OF THE HORIZON SAID IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO DO, WOULD REDUCE SAFETY BY DENYING PERMITS, HAVING THIS MORATORIUM AND PERMIT TOIRM, THEN THERE -- TER MY TOIRM THEN THERE HAS -- PER MY TOIRM THEN THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF LEASES THAT EXPIRE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, 350 LEASES EXPIRE, NOT THROUGH THE FAULT OF COMPANIES TRYING TO EXPLORE FOR AMERICAN ENERGY BUT PAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION WON'T LET THEM PLAY BY THE RULES. IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THEIR POLICIES, THERE HAS TO BE A PRICE TO PAY. THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO DENY AMERICAN JOBS TO DENY AMERICAN ENERGY, AND MAKE OUR COUNTRY MORE DEPENDENT ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL AND MAKE OUR COUNTRY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TO PAY THIS HIGH PRICE AT THE PUMP. IT'S THEIR POLICIES THAT HAVE DONE IT. IF IT'S CLEAR AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, PEOPLE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO RECOGNIZE THAT BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO ACCOUNTABILITY BY THIS CONGRESS SO THAT'S WHAT THIS LEGISLATION IS INTENDED TO DO, I URGE ADOPTION.

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  • 11:03:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 11:04:01 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 11:04:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, RELUCTANTLY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, RELUCTANTLY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS SAYING. I AGREE WHAT -- WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING. THERE'S A CONCERN THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THESE OIL COMPANIES TO GO OUT AFTER THE PERMITS AN TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE SECRETARY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SENDING A MESSAGE. BUT THE -- THE PROBLEM IS, AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF INSIDE BASEBALL, I GUESS, TO TALK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. UNDER THE RULES WE HAVE, IF YOU -- YOU CAN REDUCE AN ACCOUNT BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND PUT THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET RESERVE ACCOUNT WHICH THEN REDUCES THE ALLOCATION THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS TO SPEND. IT TAKES THE $420,000, I THINK IT IS, OUT OF THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY AND REDUCES OUR ALLOCATION BY THAT MUCH. AS MEMBERS HAVE HEARD THAT HAVE LISTENED TO THIS DEBATE, THERE ARE BOTH REPUBLICANS AN DEMOCRATS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS IN THIS BILL OF THE VARIOUS ACCOUNTS. PEOPLE WANT TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, PEOPLE WANT TO PUT MORE MONEY, AS THE LAST AMENDMENT DID, INTO THE INVASIVE SPECIES PROGRAM, TAKING CARE OF INVASIVE SPECIES. THERE ARE MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE THAT BELIEVE THAT VARIOUS ACCOUNTS ARE FUNDED AT TOO LOW A LEVEL SYSTEM OF TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET RESERVE ACCOUNT AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILLS MEANS MONEY THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE UNDER -- THAT COULD GO INTO ANOTHER ACCOUNT. THIS BILL COMES TO THE FLOOR UNDER THE BUDGET RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE HOUSE UNDER THE 302-A AND 302-B CAP THAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS COMMITTEE. IT'S A TOUGH ALLOCATION. BUT WE'VE MADE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS AND I DON'T LIKE TO SEE MONEY TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE SECRETARY, MONEY TAKEN OUT OF HIS ACCOUNT AND PUT INTO THE BUDGET RESERVE ACCOUNT WHEN THERE ARE OTHER ACCOUNTS WITHIN THE APPROPRIATION THAT COULD BE USED TO FUND. IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET RESERVE ACCOUNT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MESSAGE YOU'RE TRYING TO STAND. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO BUT RELUCTANTLY HAVE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 11:06:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

  • 11:06:20 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 11:06:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 11:06:25 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE…

    I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE OPPOSED. BUT I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST THE ADMINISTRATION COULD ISSUE DRILLING PERMITS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO THAT WOULD BE FAST ENOUGH. IT'S AS THOUGH DEEPWATER HORIZON NEVER HAPPENED. IT DID HAPPEN, PEOPLE DIED. THE ECOLOGY OF THE GULF AREA WAS SEVERELY AND ADVERSELY AFFECTED. THE ECONOMY WAS DEVASTATED. AND WE DID A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION AND FOUND THAT IT WAS LARGELY BECAUSE MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE WAS NOT DOING ITS JOB THAT THEY WERE ISSUING PERMIT TAOS QUICKLY -- PERMITS TOO QUICKLY WITHOUT ADEQUATE REVIEW. SOMETIMES THEY WERE LETTING PERMIT FORMS BE FILLED OUT BY THE OIL COMPANIES THEMS, SOMETIMES THEY'D ALREADY MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO GO TO WORK FOR THE OIL COMPANIES. BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE FACT IS THAT THEY WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB. THEY WERE LETTING DOWN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, THEY WERE LETTING DOWN THE WORKERS ON THE DRILLING RIGS. AND THEY CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE SPOILING OF THE ENVIRONMENT, ECOLOGY OF THE GULF. SO THIS CONGRESS, BOTH SIDES HAVING BEEN SEVERELY CRITICAL OF THE MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE REORGANIZED IT AND INSTRUCTED IT TO BE VERY CAREFUL, AT LEAST MUCH MORE CAREFUL THAN THEY HAD BEEN IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF ISSUING DRILLING PERMITS. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN ANY NUMBER OF TRILLING PERMITS ISSUED, THEY'RE BEING ISSUE SOD FAST WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW BUT WE KNOW A LOT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. AGAIN, I DOUBT THAT WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS THAT IT WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR MEMBERS THAT REPRESENT AREAS IN THE GULF THAT -- THAT BENEFIT FROM MORE DRILLING ACTIVITY. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, THIS IS A DEMOCRACY, THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, WHATEVER STATE THEY'RE IN, WANT THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT REFLECTS INTEGRITY THAT REFLECTS CAUTION, THAT PUTS THE SAFETY OF WORKERS AND THE PROTECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT FIRST. THE SECRETARY IS DOING HIS JOB. WE SUPPORT THE JOB HE'S DOING. WE KNOW HE'S ISSUING A LOT OF PERMITS AND WE KNOW THAT -- AND AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DEFEATED. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 11:09:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES --

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    A MOTION. IF I COULD MAKE A UNANIMOUS CONSENT MOTION TO STRIKE LINES THREE…

    A MOTION. IF I COULD MAKE A UNANIMOUS CONSENT MOTION TO STRIKE LINES THREE AND FOUR OF THIS AMENDMENT, I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO DO THAT.

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  • 11:09:44 PM

    MR. DICKS

    TO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT IT IS HE'S TRYING TO DO.

  • 11:09:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN SUBMIT HIS MODIFICATION TO THE DESK.

  • 11:09:53 PM

    MR. SCALISE

    TO, MADAM CHAIR.

  • 11:10:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE MODIFICATION.

  • 11:10:28 PM

    THE CLERK

    OF AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. SCALISE OF LOUISIANA. STRIKE THE SECOND…

    OF AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. SCALISE OF LOUISIANA. STRIKE THE SECOND INSTRUCTION.

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  • 11:10:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS MODIFIED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS MODIFIED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 11:10:45 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MADAM CHAIR, I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD SINCE IT'S NOW A DIFFERENT…

    MADAM CHAIR, I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD SINCE IT'S NOW A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT.

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  • 11:10:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 11:10:56 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, THIS IS A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE. THE MONEY…

    MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, THIS IS A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE. THE MONEY STILL GOES AWAY. THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE STILL STANDS. AS FAR AS I CAN SEE. SO EVEN THOUGH THE AMENDMENT BE WORDED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, THE REALITY IS THAT THE MONEY IS LOST. AND WE DON'T SEE THAT THIS WOULD BE A CONSTRUCTIVE AMENDMENT ANYWAY SO WE WOULD OPPOSE IT.

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  • 11:11:35 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE GENTLEMAN.

  • 11:11:40 PM

    MR. SCALISE

    WHAT THE AMENDMENT AS IT'S REVISED WOULD DO WOULD REDUCE THE $420,000, IT…

    WHAT THE AMENDMENT AS IT'S REVISED WOULD DO WOULD REDUCE THE $420,000, IT WOULD NOT GO TO THE SPEND REGULAR DUCKS ACCOUNT, IT WOULD STAY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, THAT ADDRESSES ONE OF THE CONCERNS THE CHAIRMAN HAD. THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED BY THE RULES WHO ARE BEING PENALIZED TODAY, THIS IS A WAY TO SEND A MESSAGE AND A MESSAGE ATTACHED TO A SPENDING REDUCTION IN THE SECRETARY'S DEPARTMENT THAT HE CAN'T JUST DENY PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK TO WORK WHO ARE PLAYING BY THE RULES. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 11:12:22 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TIME. I DON'T KNOW, BUSINESS ABOUT PLAYING BY THE RULES AND PUNISHING…

    TIME. I DON'T KNOW, BUSINESS ABOUT PLAYING BY THE RULES AND PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO DON'T, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO PLAY BY THE RULES OF THE CONGRESS -- THAT THE CONGRESS INSTRUCTED IT TO PLAY BY BUT NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, WHEN YOU REMOVE $420,000 FROM THE BILL, I THINK YOU LOSE IT. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YOU SAY -- WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THE $420,000 INTO THIS REDUCTION ACCOUNT. WHAT'S THE TERM OF IT? THIS SPEND REGULAR DUCKS ACCOUNT. -- SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THAT DOES AWAY WITH THE MONEY. NOW YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT OF THE BILL, LETTING IT FLY AWAY TO WHO KNOWS WHERE, BUT THE REALITY IS IT NO LONGER EXISTS. IT'S COMING OUT OF THE BILL. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD YSMED WE AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DEFEATED. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 11:13:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 11:13:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 11:14:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 11:14:21 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS. PAGE 32, LINE 12, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT,…

    BY MS. JACKSON LEE OF TEXAS. PAGE 32, LINE 12, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT DECREASED BY $5,500,000. PAGE 65, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT INCREASED BY $5 MILLION.

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  • 11:14:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 11:14:52 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. WE ARE IN SOME TOUGH TIMES, BUT I BELIEVE…

    I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. WE ARE IN SOME TOUGH TIMES, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STRUCTURE IN THIS GOVERNMENT THAT PROVIDES OVERSIGHT OVER THE ENVIRONMENT OF THIS COUNTRY. AND HOWEVER ONE MAY QUARREL WITH REGULATIONS THAT MAY SEEM A LITTLE STEEP, THE WORK OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IS IMPORTANT. AND AS WE STAND HERE TODAY, THIS LEGISLATION CUTS THE BUDGET OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BY 18%, IN ADDITION TO 16% IN FUNDING FOR F.Y. 2011, 34%. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT HARMING INDUSTRY, WE MUST REACH A COMPROMISE WITHOUT SLASHING THE E.P.A. BUDGET. THESE CUTS LIMIT THE E.P.A.'S ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT ALL AMERICANS HAVE ACCESS TO DRINKING WATER THAT DOES NOT CONTAIN TOXINS THAT EXPOSE AMERICANS TO TYPHOID AND ORGAN DAMAGE. THE ASSAULT ON PUBLIC HEALTH DOES NOT STOP WITH THE QUALITY OF OUR DRINKING WATER. THIS BILL TAKES STEPS. A RIDER IS ATTACHED THAT WOULD PREVENT THE E.P.A. FROM IMPLEMENTING A REGULATION THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM DANGEROUS AIR POLLUTION AND PREVENT UP TO 34,000 PREMATURE DEATHS AND 400,000 CASES OF ASTHMA. I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN E.P.A. DIRECTOR AS HARD AS LISA JACKSON, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HAD OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATORS. SHE HAS WORKED WITH MEMBERS ACROSS THE AISLE. BUT THESE CUTS REDUCE FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS THAT KEEP OUR CONSTITUENTS SAFE AND I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE BUT I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THESE CUTS IMPACT THE PEOPLE OF HOUSTON. HOUSTON HAS THE POOREST AIR QUALITY IN THE NATION. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE FIND A WAY TO INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR THE E.P.A. AND AS THIS BILL MAKES ITS WAY THROUGH THE FLOOR, I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO DO SO AND I START FIRST WITH THIS EFFORT AND I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 11:17:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN CANNOT RESERVE.

  • 11:17:25 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    2 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I WILL CONTINUE AND I WILL NOT AT THIS TIME YIELD BACK MY TIME. LET ME…

    I WILL CONTINUE AND I WILL NOT AT THIS TIME YIELD BACK MY TIME. LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU ABOUT THE OLD ACRES COUNCIL. THIS IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. THEY CONDUCTED A STUDY TO ACK ASSESS THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH RISK. A LOCAL LANDFILL COULD BE THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS. ENORMOUS CANCER IN THAT AREA. IT WAS AWARDED A $20,000 GRANT FROM THE E.P.A. AND IT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE SUPERFUND WHICH OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN SOME YEARS PAST TO CONDUCT TESTS TO CONDUCT ASSESS AND AQUALITY THE RISKS TO HUMAN HEALTH. THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM WAS TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER THERE WERE HAZARDOUS RUNOFF. THIS COMMUNITY NEEDED THOSE RESOURCES. THE COUNCIL USED THE GRANT FUNDS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO TAKE AIR AND WATER SAMPLES. THE ANALYSIS REVEALED HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGH TOXIN SUBSTANCES. THEY OBSERVED SUBSTANCES SEEP PPING. THIS WILL COLLECTED INTO POOLS OF WATER. THEY BECAME ENGEORGED AND INCREASED -- INCREASING EXPOSURES OF RESIDENTS TO HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES. IT EDUCATED A POOR COMMUNITY OF SENIORS AND OTHERS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS FUNDING THAT TAKES AWAY FROM E.P.A. AND TAKES AWAY FROM THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND AND IMPACTS COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT OF THE ACRES HOME COMMUNITY IN THE 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. MY FRIENDS, WE CANNOT GAMBLE WITH THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PUM PUBLIC. THE QUALITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, WE NEED TO RESTORE THIS FUNDING AND I HAVE MADE THIS EFFORT TO DO SO. I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. SINCE THE DEBT LIMIT WAS PUT IN PLACE, WE HAVE ALWAYS PAID AMERICA'S BILLS. WE FIGHT TODAY TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE CUTTING AT AMERICA'S SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 11:20:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS RECOGNIZED. MR.

  • 11:20:25 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    DEBATE OVER AGAIN. WE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM THE OFFICE OF SECRETARY WHICH…

    DEBATE OVER AGAIN. WE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM THE OFFICE OF SECRETARY WHICH IS DOWN SOME $33 MILLION FROM THE BUDGET REQUEST OF THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE TAKEN $20 MILLION OUT OF THAT ALREADY TO PUT IN THE WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION FUND. THIS WOULD TAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF THE OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF THE. IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE HAS AN AMENDMENT TO FUND A PROGRAM THAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT, THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT YOU GET IT FROM IS THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY NOT ONLY IN THIS BILL BUT OTHER BILLS. WE TAKE IT OUT OF ADMINISTRATION. IT'S THAT'S THE EASIEST THING TO DO. THE OFFICE OF SECRETARY HAS TAKEN A PRETTY GOOD HIT IN THIS BILL BOTH DURING THE MARKUP AND HERE ON DEBATE ON THE FLOOR. I'M AFRAID I HAVE TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT HITS AN ACCOUNT THAT IS ALREADY SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN WHAT WAS REQUESTED.

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  • 11:21:31 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    YOU AND THE RANKING MEMBER FOR A VERY TOUGH TASK AND MY OVERALL INTENT WAS…

    YOU AND THE RANKING MEMBER FOR A VERY TOUGH TASK AND MY OVERALL INTENT WAS THE NEED FOR INCREASING THE FUNDING IN THE E.P.A. AS WE MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS, DOES THE GENTLEMAN SEE IN THE CONSULTATION WITH THE OTHER BODY ANY OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE ANY OF THESE FUNDS TO THE E.P.A.?

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  • 11:21:59 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    SAY I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SENATE IS DOING, WHAT THEIR…

    SAY I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SENATE IS DOING, WHAT THEIR ALLOCATION IS GOING TO BE, THEY HAVE NOT PASSED THE BUDGET, SO THEY HAVE NO 302-B TO WORK WITH. THE E.P.A. HAS TAKEN THE LARGEST HIT WITHIN THIS BUDGET. A LOT OF THAT WAS DUE TO THE FACT THEY HAD THE LARGEST INCREASES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. CERTAINLY, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE ACCOUNTS WHEN WE GO INTO CONFERENCE WITH THE BODY CROSS THE ROTUNDA TO COME TO A COMPROMISE.

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  • 11:22:34 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE. AND I KNOW WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON…

    I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE. AND I KNOW WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. AND I WILL COME BACK AGAIN ON THE FLOOR, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING TO ALLOW ME TO EXPRESS THAT THE E.P.A. BE FUNDED MORE FULLY THAN IT HAS BEEN.

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  • 11:22:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 11:23:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE?

  • 11:24:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE?

  • 11:24:04 PM

    MR. GOSAR

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE TABLE.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR OF ARIZONA. PAGE 26, LINE, ININSERT DECREASE…

    OFFERED OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR OF ARIZONA. PAGE 26, LINE, ININSERT DECREASE $3 MILLION, PAGE 88, LINE 9, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASE $4 MILL THON 367,000.

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  • 11:24:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ARIZONA IS RKNIESED.

  • 11:24:35 PM

    MR. GOSAR

  • 11:26:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 11:26:52 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE THAN TIRE DENTAL…

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE THAN TIRE DENTAL CAUCUS. WE ARE THE TWO DENTISTS THAT ARE IN CONGRESS SO IT MIGHT NOT SURPRISE YOU THAT I SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. I APPRECIATE HIS SINCERE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE OBLIGATIONS BOTH TRUST OBLIGATIONS AND TREATY OBLIGATIONS AND MORAL OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR INDIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PROUDEST OF IN THIS BILL WAS TO BE ABLE TO CARRY ON THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE BY CHAIRMAN DICKS WHEN HE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE AND NOW THAT I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE TO MEET THOSE TRUST OLINGSES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR INDIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. ONE OF THE AREAS IN THIS BILL, ONE OF THE TWO AREAS THAT GOT INCREASED FUNDING WAS INDIAN HEALTH SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO MEET THESE SERVICES. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PREVALENT DISEASE IN THE UNITED STATES AND 300% MORE LIKELY IN NATIVE AMERICANS THAN IT IS IN THE NORMAL POPULATION. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AND MEET THE CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS. THERE IS A SAYING THAT'S BEEN SAID AROUND THE COUNTRY, IF YOU LIVE IN INDIAN COUNTRY, YOU NEED TO GET SICK BEFORE JUNE BECAUSE THE CONTRACT SUPPORT COSTS RUN OUT ABOUT THAT TIME. ONE THING WE HAVE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT, SUPPORT THE CONTRACT SUPPORT COSTS FOR NATIVE AMERICANS. WE ARE AT 93 OR 94%. THE CONTRACT SUPPORT IN THE B.I.A. THAT DOES THE POLICE WORK AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE FULLY FUNDED. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS THAT I THINK WE AS AMERICANS HAVE AND I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA AND I TRULY APPRECIATE HIS SUPPORT FOR OUR INDIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 11:29:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 11:29:15 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 11:29:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 11:29:23 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I HAVE SAID PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS…

    I HAVE SAID PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE, I CONGRATULATE HIM FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND SHOWING THE COMMITMENT IN THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE BY INCREASING IT BY $369 MILLION THIS YEAR AND DENTAL HEALTH SPECIFICALLY IS UP BY $13.8 MILLION. THAT'S ABOVE THE EXISTING LEVEL THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS ABOVE LAST YEAR. GRANTED, THE NEED IS VERY SUBSTANTIAL. AND SO I HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WITH THIS AMENDMENT THAT ADDS ANOTHER $4.3 MILLION FOR THE EXPRESSED PURPOSE OF INCREASING DENTAL HEALTH FURTHER, IT'S THE OFFSET. . THE CUT IS TO THE SOLICITOR OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES AS THE CHIEF LEGAL OFFICER AND IT'S THE SOLICITOR THAT PROVIDES LEGAL SERVICES TO NATIVE AMERICANS ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT. SO YOU'RE TAKING THE CHIEF LEGAL OFFICER FOR THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF THIS COUNTRY AND MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL CUT TO THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR THAT POSITION. IT'S KIND OF ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. THERE ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL AND SERIOUS LEGAL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH ON BEHALF OF INDIANS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THERE ARE VERY DIFFICULT HEALTH ISSUES THAT CERTAINLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. I DID NOT RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BUT I DO THINK THAT TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE SOLICITOR IS AN UNFORTUNATE PLACE TO BE FINDING A CUT OF $4.3 MILLION. BUT I'LL YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 11:31:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I ASK --

  • 11:32:14 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE REMAINDER OF THE BILL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, PRINTED IN THE RECORD AND…

    THE REMAINDER OF THE BILL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, PRINTED IN THE RECORD AND OPEN TO AMENDMENT AT ANY POINT.

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  • 11:32:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 11:32:37 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE DO NOW RISE.

  • 11:32:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    IS ON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE RISES.

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  • 11:33:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MADAM CHAIR.

  • 11:33:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION,…

    SPEAKER, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION, HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584, DIRECTS ME TO REPORT THAT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 11:33:30 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 11:33:53 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 11:34:02 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE --

  • 11:34:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION SON THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE…

    THE QUESTION SON THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 11:34:49 PM

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    OF THE RULES COMMITTEE TOOK UP SPEAKER BOEHNER'S DEBT PACKATGE.

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115th Congress - House
Total Hours: 1482 (After 654 days)
  • Debate689 Hours
  • Special Orders287 Hours
  • Votes231 Hours
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