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House Session - July 27, 2011
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  • 10:00:59 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE ORDER OF THE HOUSE OF JANUARY 5, 2011, THE CHAIR WILL NOW…

    PURSUANT TO THE ORDER OF THE HOUSE OF JANUARY 5, 2011, THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MEMBERS FROM LISTS SUBMITTED BY THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS FOR MORNING HOUR DEBATE. THE CHAIR WILL ALTERNATE RECOGNITION BETWEEN THE PARTIES WITH EACH PARTY LIMITED TO ONE HOUR AND EACH MEMBER OTHER THAN THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS AND THE MINORITY WHIP LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES EACH, BUT IN NO EVENT SHALL DEBATE CONTINUE BEYOND 11:50 A.M. THE CHAIR AT THIS TIME RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. DEFAZIO, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:01:43 AM

    MR. DEFAZIO

    IS CORPORATIONS DON'T PAY TAXES, ONLY INDIVIDUALS PAY TAXES. AND TAX CUTS…

    IS CORPORATIONS DON'T PAY TAXES, ONLY INDIVIDUALS PAY TAXES. AND TAX CUTS CREATE JOBS. WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT? WELL, LAST FRIDAY THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION EXPIRED SO THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT COLLECTING $200 MILLION A WEEK IN SECURITY FEES AND OTHER FEES THAT PAY FOR THE AVIATION SYSTEM. IT'S PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE USERS OF THAT SYSTEM WITH TICKET TAXES AND SUCH. THAT'S $200 MILLION A WEEK. NOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE? WELL, THREE AIRLINES, THREE HONEST AIRLINES, FRONTIER AIRLINES, ALASKA AND VIRGIN AMERICA, LOWERED TICKET PRICES BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T COLLECTING THE TAXES. BUT THE OTHER IRLSE, HMM, NOT SO MUCH -- THE OTHER AIRLINES, HMM, NOT SO MUCH. THEY RAISED THE TICKET PRICES TO MATCH THE TAXES AND COLLECTING THE WINDFALL. THE AIR TRANSPORT SYSTEM IS COMPLAINING ABOUT TICKET TAXES BUT A CHUNK OF YOUR TAXES IS GOING TO WASHINGTON. YOU CAN NOW PUT INTO UNITED AIRLINES, CONTINENTAL AIRLINES, JETBLUE. THEY'RE TAKING THE MONEY. IN ADDITION TO THE CONSUMERS GETTING RIPPED OFF HERE, $200 MILLION A WEEK, WE HAVE A SECOND ONE, TAX CUTS CREATES JOBS. WE CUT TAXES, $200 MILLION A WEEK. THAT'S A LOT. SO FAR 4,000 GOVERNMENT JOBS, NOW REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT GOVERNMENT JOBS, EVEN IF THEY'RE DOING SOME PRETTY CRITICAL STUFF, BUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF PRIVATE SECTORS JOBS ARE DOWN THE TUBE BECAUSE NOT COLLECTING THE TAXES MEANS ALL OF THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ACROSS AMERICA FUNDED BY THESE FEES ARE GRINDING TO A HALT. CRITICAL PROJECTS. PROJECTS THAT WILL SAVE LIVES FROM RUNWAY INCURSION, CONTROL TOWER, SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR AIRPORTS TO DEFEAT TERRORIST ATTACKS. IN THE CASE OF MY LITTLE REGIONAL AIRPORT ON THE COAST IN OREGON, THEIR PROJECT TO INSTALL A RUNWAY LIGHTING SYSTEM FOR INSTRUMENT LANDING BEFORE WINTER HAS STOPPED. WE JUST GOT JET SERVICE IN THERE. THE AIRLINES SAY, LOOK, IF WE'RE GOING TO COME IN HERE IN THE WINTERTIME, YOU HAVE BAD WEATHER, WE NEED THAT SYSTEM. WELL, IF THIS IMPASSE CONTINUES WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT SYSTEM BY NEXT WINTER. NOW, WHO IS THAT HELPING? WHO ARE YOU GUYS HELPING OVER THERE WITH THESE STUPID STUNTS YOU'RE PULLING THERE? $200 MILLION A WEEK THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T COLLECTING THAT WOULD PAY FOR THESE CRITICAL PROJECTS, PUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO WORK AND NOW IT'S A WINDFALL TO A BUNCH OF AIRLINES. DON'T WOREY. THE AIR TRANSPORT ASSOCIATION SAYS THESE SHORT-TERM INCREASES, THAT IS BY THE AIRLINES INCREASING THEIR TICKET PRICES TO MAKE UP FOR THE TAXES GOING AWAY, THESE SHORT-TERM INCREASES BENEFIT ALL STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE IT ENABLES THE AIRLINES TO INVEST IN THEIR PRODUCT AND SERVICE. HUH? WHAT? LET'S SEE, THE MONEY USED TO GO FOR SAFETY SECURITY AND OTHER ESSENTIALS. NOW IT'S GOING TO THE AIRLINES AND THEY ARE GOING TO USE IT TO IMPROVE THEIR PRODUCT AND SERVICE. MAYBE THEY'LL START SERVING PEANUTS AND SODA ON SOME OF THESE. I DON'T KNOW. SO MUCH FOR THE REPUBLICAN MANTRA. YOU KNOW, CORPORATIONS DO PAY TAXES, AND IN THIS CASE NOW THEY'RE GETTING A WINDFALL BECAUSE THE TAXES WENT AWAY AND NO TAX CUTS DON'T CREATE JOBS. WRONG TWICE.

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  • 10:05:42 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS.…

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. ROIBLED -- MS. ROYBAL-ALLARD, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:05:57 AM

    MS. ROYBAL-ALLARD

    MR. SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE TO INTRODUCE THE TEEN PREGNANCY PREVENTION ACT…

    MR. SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE TO INTRODUCE THE TEEN PREGNANCY PREVENTION ACT OF 2011. MY BILL ADDRESSES THE SOBERING FACT THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS THE HIGHEST TEENAGE PREGNANCY RATE OF ANY DEVELOPED NATION. WITH NEARLY 750,000 PREGNANCIES A YEAR, TEEN PREGNANCY IS A CRITICAL PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT COSTS OUR COUNTRY $10.9 BILLION ANNUALLY. CONTRIBUTING TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS ISSUE IS THAT 82% OF THESE PREGNANCIES ARE UNPLANNED. WHILE IT IS TRUE OUR NATION HAS MADE PROGRESS IN REDUCING THE RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCY, THE FACT REMAINS THAT MANY MINORITY COMMUNITIES STILL HAVE DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH RATES. FOR EXAMPLE, AMONG ALL LATINA AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN GIRLS, OVER HALF WILL GET PREGNANT AT LEAST ONCE BEFORE AGE COMPARED TO 19% -- 20 COMPARED TO 19% CAUSECATION GIRLS. IT HAS COMPLICATIONS AND LOW BIRTH WEIGHT. ALSO OF GREAT CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT TEEN PREGNANCIES CAN LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT SOCIAL, EDUCATIONAL AND FINANCIAL BURDENS TO FAMILIES AND TO OUR COUNTRY. RESEARCH TELLS US THAT GIRLS WHO BECOME PREGNANT DURAL ADOLESCENCE ARE LESS LIKELY TO FINISH SCHOOL, HAVE HIGHER RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND A GREATER DEPENDENS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. IN ADDITION TO THESE TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES, MANY YOUNG GIRLS IN PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BECOME PREGNANT THAN NONABUSED GIRLS. WHILE THERE IS NO SIMPLE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS TEEN SEXUAL BEHAVIOR, IT IS POSSIBLE TO REDUCE TEEN PREGNANCY WITH A STRATEGY OF SEXUAL HEALTH EDUCATION THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT CULTURAL AND LYNN BEGIN -- LINGUINTIC DIFFERENCES. MY ACT WILL HELP REDUCE THE DISTURBING RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCIES IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES BY SUPPORTING NEW AND EXISTING TEEN PREGNANCY PROGRAM INTERVENTION WITH A FOCUS ON STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS. BY REINFORCING OUR MULTIMEDIA CAMPAIGNS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATION, BY INCREASING AWARENESS ABOUT TEEN PREGNANCY, PREVENTION AND HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS, BY ENHANCING RESEARCH IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT EXAMINES FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO DISPROPORTIONATE HIGH RATES OF TEEN RATES AND UNINTENDED PREGNANCY, AND BY EXAMINING THE ROLE VIOLENCE AND ABUSE PLAY IN THE DECISIONS YOUNG PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS, SEX, PREGNANCY AND CHILDBEARING. MR. SPEAKER, OUR DAUGHTERS DESERVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD A BRIGHT FUTURE. BY PREVENTING TEEN PREGNANCIES AND PROMOTING HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS WE CAN PAVE THE WAY FOR OUR TEENAGE GIRLS TO BLOSSOM INTO WOMEN AND MOTHERS WHO HAVE REALIZED THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CO-SPONSOR AND HELP PASS THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TEENAGE PREGNANCY PREVENTION ACT OF 2011. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:09:54 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR AT THIS TIME RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK,

  • 10:09:59 AM

    MR. RANGEL

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

  • 10:10:06 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 10:10:09 AM

    MR. RANGEL

    THE EMBARRASSMENT OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS GREAT LEGISLATIVE BODY…

    THE EMBARRASSMENT OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS GREAT LEGISLATIVE BODY WHEN IT APPEARS AS THOUGH IN OUR HANDS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TELL PEOPLE, CREDITORS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR REPUBLIC'S HISTORY WE ARE PREPARED TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY OUR DEBTS. NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE OF SOME PLEDGES THAT WE'VE SIGNED OR BECAUSE OF SOME COMMITMENT THAT SOME MEMBERS HAVE MADE, THAT THEY WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER DO ANYTHING IN SUPPORT OF OUR PRESIDENT, THEY WILL NEVER TALK ABOUT RAISING REVENUE, THAT THEY WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A BILL, WHETHER IT'S A HEALTH BILL, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICAID, MEDICARE, EDUCATION, THAT IF THE PRESIDENT SUPPORTS IT THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY AMERICANS ARE REALLY WAKING UP THIS MORNING WONDERING EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE HOLD OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PRESIDENT HOSTAGE IN ORDER TO JUST REACH SHORT POLITICAL GAIN BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RECENTLY ELECTED AND BELIEVE THAT COMPROMISE IS UNPATRIOTIC INSTEAD OF THE LEGISLATIVE OBJECTIVE. BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE JOBS THAT WE WOULD LOSE, THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD LOSE, THE FACT THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE EXPANDED AND LARGER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN, WHAT I'M REALLY AFRAID OF IS THAT WE LOSE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND CREATE A SCENARIO WHERE THAT DREAM BECOMES A NIGHTMARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT MADE AMERICA SO GREAT. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF DREAM THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE IN EUROPE OR A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND JUST BELIEVE THAT MAKING IT TO AMERICA THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN STAYING IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY WITH THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND WITH THEIR OWN RACE OF PEOPLE. AND YET THESE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE PREPARED IN MANY CASES TO RISK THEIR LIVES TO COME TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AMERICAN DREAM. I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN SNATCHED FROM AFRICA AND BROUGHT IN CHAINS IN THE BOTTOM OF VESSELS AND WERE ACTUALLY SOLD AS PROPERTY AND YET INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO AFRICA THEY ADOPTED OUR BIBLE, THEY ADOPTED AMERICAN CUSTOMS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY WITH ALL OF THE OBSTACLES THAT THEY HAD TO OVERCOME, THEY ADOPTED THE AMERICAN DREAM. WHAT MAKES AMERICA SO DIFFERENT THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COUNTRIES NO MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE OR WHAT YOUR LAST NAME IS YOU CAN BECOME AN AMERICAN. IT'S SO AMAZING THE ATTRACTIVENESS THAT THIS DREAM HAS. DOES IT MEAN THAT A PART OF THAT DREAM IS GETTING RICH, INHERITED, HAVING PROPERTY, HAVING YACHTS AND CARS? NO, NO. IT'S HAVING HOPE AND DREAMS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BETTER FOR YOURSELF, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR KIDS, YOUR GRANDKIDS, YOUR COMMUNITY AND, YES, YES, OUR GREAT COUNTRY. IT MEANS THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO MAKE SACRIFICES TO HELP OTHERS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU NEVER FULFILL THAT DREAM, THE DREAM NEVER, NEVER STOPS. THERE'S ALWAYS THE ABILITY TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T MAKE IT, MY KIDS' ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL. EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T MAKE IT, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT I WILL BE LIVING IN A BETTER WORLD, A WORLD OF PEACE, A WORLD OF HARMONY, A WORLD THAT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU CAME FROM THAT YOU HAVE A DREAM THAT CAN BE FULFILLED IN THIS COUNTRY. OTHER COUNTRIES YOU CAN'T DREAM. HOW YOU'RE BORN IS HOW YOU DIE. THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR LEGACY. BUT IN AMERICA NOW ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PLACED IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO CALL OUT THOSE PEOPLE THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD RATHER HAVE THIS DREAM SHATTERED, NOT JUST FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, BUT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT WATCH US AND MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME HERE AND BECOME A PART OF THAT AMERICAN DREAM STILL. THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE SAYING, I, TOO, CAN DREAM. I CAN BE SOMEBODY. DON'T LET THAT DREAM BECOME A NIGHTMARE. SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT. SUPPORT OUR FISCAL SYSTEM, AND SUPPORT THAT DREAM. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:15:43 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. WESTMORELAND, FOR…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. WESTMORELAND, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:15:48 AM

    MR. WESTMORELAND

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I COME TO THE HOUSE FLOOR TO REMEMBER…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I COME TO THE HOUSE FLOOR TO REMEMBER A GREAT FRIEND, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO PASSED AWAY LAST TUESDAY. THOMAS SOP CITY COUNCILMEMBER, ED BELL, WAS A HUGE PRESENCE IN GEORGIA AND DEVOTED CHEERLEADER FOR BOTH UPSON COUNTY, THE CITY OF THOMASON, AND ME. ED'S LIFE OF TIRELESS SERVICE STARTED WHEN HE ENTERED THE U.S. NAVY AS AN AVIATION ORDNANCE MAN FOR FOUR YEARS DURING THE KOREAN CONFLICT. HE CONTINUED WITH A SENSE OF DUTY AS AN AGENT WITH STATE FARM INSURANCE, WHERE HE WORKED FOR 33 YEARS AND BECAME A MENTOR FOR EVERY STATE FARM AGENT UNDER HIS DIRECTION. HE WAS AN AGENT'S AGENT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT HE INSURED KNEW THAT ED WAS THEIR AGENT AND HE WAS THERE TO PROTECT THEIR INTEREST. ED WAS SERVING HIS FOURTH TERM ON THE THOMASON CITY COUNCIL AND WAS TRULY DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THOSE IN HIS COMMUNITY. IF I EVER FOUND MYSELF WITHIN 25 MILES OF THOMASON AND MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT CALLING MR. ED, YOU CAN BET THAT HE WOULD SOMEHOW FIND OUT AND I WOULD GET AN EARFUL OVER THE PHONE FOR NOT COMING BY TO SEE HIM. AND WHEN YOU CAME TO VISIT, YOU HAD TO BE SURE TO SET ENOUGH TIME FOR ED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO EVERYONE IN TOWN, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD ALREADY DONE IT MANY TIMES BEFORE. EVEN IN THE YEARS LATER, ED COULD WEAR A MUCH YOUNGER MAN OUT WITH HIS ENTHUSIASM FOR SHOWING VISITORS AROUND HIS BELOVED CITY, TAKING THEM THROUGH THE COURTHOUSE, AND AROUND THE CITY SQUARE. ED REALLY WAS MR. THOMASON, HE WAS SERVING ON MY DISTRICT'S SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS SERVING ON THE THOMASON, UPSON ARCH COUNCIL, THE UPSON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, THE LION'S CLUB, AND DEACON AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF THOMASON. IN RECOGNITION OF ALL THIS WORK, HE WAS REWARDED THE WELL DESERVED LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN 2009 FROM THE THOMASON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMMITTEE. THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF GROUPS IMPACTED BY ED'S ENERGY AND HIS INVOLVEMENT COULD NEVER BE REPLACED OR FORGOTTEN BY ANYONE. THE DEDICATION ED SHOWED TO HIS COMMUNITY PAILS IN -- PALES IN COMPARISON TO HIS DEDICATION TO FAMILY. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WILL CONTINUE TO BE WITH HIS WIFE, HIS THREE CHILDREN, AND HIS SIX GRANDCHILDREN, ONE OF WHOM, WILL, IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS AN INTERN IN MY OFFICE. I CANNOT ADEQUATELY EXPRESS, MR. SPEAKER, HOW GRATEFUL I AM TO ED AND HIS FAMILY FOR ALL THAT HE HAS DONE FOR GEORGIA AND FOR ME. SO, ED, UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN, WE ALL MISS YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:18:51 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR.…

    THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. FRANK. FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR.

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  • 10:19:04 AM

    MR. FRANK

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 10:19:06 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 10:19:08 AM

    MR. FRANK

    MEMBERS OFTEN COME TO THE FLOOR TO TALK ABOUT INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTS…

    MEMBERS OFTEN COME TO THE FLOOR TO TALK ABOUT INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTS ABOUT AGENCIES, AND THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS CRITICAL REPORTS. REPORTS OF DOCUMENT SHORTCOMINGS. I'M VERY PROUD TODAY TO COME TO THE FLOOR TO PRESENT EXCERPTS FROM A JOINT REPORT FROM THE INSPECTORS GENERAL OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND TREASURY IN WHICH THEY GIVE A PERFECT SET OF MARKS TO THE NEW CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION BUREAU. THOSE TWO AGENCIES LOOKED INTO THIS AGENTCY. THIS IS AN AGENCY THAT IS BEING SET UP UNDER FIRE, UNDER FORTUNATELY, AND SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL SITUATION, AND WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTED IS THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT. THAT, QUOTE, THEY IDENTIFIED AND COUMENTED -- DOCUMENTED MISSION CRITICAL ACTIVITIES AND MANDATES. THAT THE CFPB HAS DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTING APPROPRIATE PLANS. WE FIND THAT THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING APPROPRIATE PLANS THAT SUPPORT ONGOING OPERATIONS AS WELL AS THE TRANSFER OF EMPLOYEE FUNCTIONS. THEY CREATED SEVERAL AGENCIESWIDE DOCUMENTS THAT IDENTIFIED AND TRACK PRIORITIES. WE FOUND THE AGENCIES HAD COMPLETED IMPLEMENTS -- ELEMENTS OF ITS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND MADE PROGRESS IN OTHERS. IT IS A REPORT FROM AN INSPECTOR GENERAL THAT SAYS THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT. I WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD. I WANT TO PUT IT FORWARD IN PART BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS MOST SINGLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GREAT SUCCESS, THE IDEA OF CREATION OF THIS AGENCY, IS ELIZABETH WARREN. ELIZABETH WARREN IS ONE OF THE MOST ABLE AND DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS TO DEDICATE HERSELF TO PUBLIC SERVICE THAT I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED. I REGRET VERY MUCH THAT UNINFORMED POLITICAL OPPOSITION DENIED HER THE APPOINTMENT TO BE THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY. BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ONLY THE CREATOR OF THIS IDEA AND A GREAT PARTNER FOR THOSE OF US ON THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE, I SEE MY COLLEAGUE FROM WISCONSIN, MS. MOORE, WHO WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS ON THE FLOOR, AS WE SET THIS UP IN THE FACE OF SIGNATURE OPPOSITION FROM VESTED INTEREST AND IDEOLOGUES, BUT HAVING HAD THE IDEA SHE THEN PRESIDED AS THE APPOINTEE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY UNDER THE PRESIDENT TO SET THIS AGENCY UP IN AN EXTRAORDINARY WAY AND IT IS NOW ON THE DATE WHEN IT TAKES OFF READY TO FUNCTION. SO SHE WAS NOT SIMPLY THE CREATOR OF THE IDEA AND A GREAT ADVOCATE, BUT SHE'S SHOWN HERSELF TO BE A GREAT ADMINISTRATOR. I REGRET THE FACT THAT SHE IS NOT -- I WANT TO TALK FOR A MINUTE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE APPOINTMENT OF MILLION CORDRAY, WHOM THE PRESIDENT APPOINTED. BUT I WANT TO REFLECT FOR A MINUTE ON WHY WE HAD SUCH UNWARRANTED OPPOSITION TO A WOMAN OF GREAT SENSE AND OF MODERATION. A WOMAN WHO UNDERSTANDS THE MARKET AND WAS READY TO HELP IT FUNCTION. PART OF IT I HAVE TO SAY WAS GENDER BIAS. ALONG WITH SHEILA BEAR, RECENTLY DEPARTED, AS HEAD OF THE FDIC, HIS WARREN ENCOUNTERED FROM SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE UNCONSCIOUS ON THEIR PART, THE NOTION THAT A VERY STRONG WILLED WOMAN WITH STRONG OPINIONS MIGHT HAVE A PLACE BUT NOT IN THE FINANCIAL SECTOR. AND I REGRET THE LOSS OF BOTH OF THESE. BUT THERE WAS ALSO ON THE PART OF MY MOST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES A RECOGNITION THAT SHE WAS A THREAT. I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT, I DISAGREED WITH THE POSITION NOT TO APPOINT HER, I GIVE CREDIT TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SECRETARY GEITHNER BECAUSE THEY HELPED US GET THIS AGENCY CREATED AND THEY DID PUT HER IN THE POSITION AND GAVE HER THEIR FULL BACKING TO GET IT THIS FAR. WE HAVE IDEOLOGUES HERE WHO WOULD HAVE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS A BAD THING. THAT LESS GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS BETTER. WE SEE THIS NOTION THAT WE SHOULD CAP GOVERNMENT X PERCENT OR Y PERCENT. I DON'T REGARD MORE FIREFIGHTING AS A BAD THING. I DON'T THINK RESEARCH INTO ALZHEIMER'S AND CANCER IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LIMIT. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO FIXING BRIDGES AND HIGHWAYS. SO THIS NOTION THAT GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS BAD IS MINDLESS. BUT THERE'S A PARTICULAR PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS A PLACE THAT WILL CREATE WEALTH, I WANT US TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO CREATE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THAT WAS THE RATIONAL OF THE CONSUMER BUREAU. IT'S A POPULAR ENTITY, SET UP TO PROTECT INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS FROM ABUSES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. IT'S WORKING WELL. IT WAS WELL DESIGNED, I MUST SAY. IT WAS WELL SET UP AS THE INSPECT JURORS GENERAL HAVE SAID. AND I BELIEVE -- INSPECTOR GENERALS HAVE SAID. AND I BELIEVE MY RIGHT WING COLLEAGUES ARE TERRIFIED THEIR FALSE NOTION THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ALWAYS THE SOURCE OF THE GOOD, AND SOMETIMES THE GOVERNMENT DOES CREATE PROBLEMS, AND. TIME THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOES CREATE WEALTH, BUT THERE ARE TIMES THE PUBLIC SECTOR HAS TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THE DOWN CONSUMER BUREAU WAS SET UP FOR -- NOW THE CONSUMER BUREAU WAS SET FOR THAT. IT WAS SAID THE OTHER DAY WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHAT WE WORRY ABOUT IS AN AGENCY THAT EXISTS TO PROTECT CONSUMERS, HE'S ALSO THE ONE WHO SAID HE THOUGHT THE REGULATORS, BANK REGULATORS, WERE THERE TO PROTECT THE BANKS. WE WANT TO HAVE A REGULATOR THERE TO PROTECT THE CONSUMERS. I SALUTE MISS WARREN. I REGRET SHE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE WORK SHE'S DONE, BUT IT WILL LIVE ON AS A TRIBUTE TO BOTH THE IDEA SHE HAD, THE POLITICAL WORK SHE DID WITH US TO GET IT CREATED, AND THE EXTRAORDINARILY GOOD ADMINISTRATIVE WORK SHE DID IN SETTING IT UP. I BELIEVE MR. CORDRAY AND THE OTHERS WILL DO A GOOD JOB AND WE'LL SOON HAVE PROOF THAT THE PUBLIC SECTOR CAN IN SOME CASES PROTECT CITIZENS FROM PRIVATE SECTOR ABUSES.

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  • 10:25:18 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA, MR. PAULSEN, FOR FIVE…

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA, MR. PAULSEN, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:25:25 AM

    MR. PAULSEN

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

  • 10:25:28 AM

    MR. PAULSEN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO CONGRATULATE THE PEOPLE AND THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO CONGRATULATE THE PEOPLE AND THE LIBERIAN PEOPLE ON 164 YEARS OF INDBENS. -- INDEPENDENCE. LIBERIA WHICH TRANSLATES TO LAND OF THE FREE SHARES A UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. FOUNDED BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND EMANCIPATED SLAVES IN THE EARLY 1820'S, THIS SMALL NATION OF CLOSE TO 3.8 MILLION PEOPLE IS STRIVING TO BUILD A LASTING DEMOCRACY. AN INCREDIBLE FEAT IN SUCH A WAR-BORN REGION. MR. SPEAKER, MORE THAN 25,000 LIBERIAN AMERICANS CALL MINNESOTA HOME. I AM PROUD TO CALL THEM MY NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, AND COLLEAGUES. LIBERIAN AMERICANS IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE ENTREPRENEURS, SMALL BUSINESSPEOPLE, TEACHERS, LAWYER, AND NURSES. THEY CONTRIBUTES TO THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR NATION AND WHO WE ARE AS A PEOPLE. SO LET US TODAY RECOGNIZE THE LIBERIAN PEOPLE AND THE LONG ROAD THEY HAVE TRAVELED AS A NATION. AND LET US ALWAYS REMEMBER THE BOND BETWEEN THE UPS AND THE REPUBLIC OF LIBERIA. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:26:30 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. PAYNE, FOR…

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. PAYNE, FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR.

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  • 10:26:39 AM

    MR. PAYNE

    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 10:26:42 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 10:26:44 AM

    MR. PAYNE

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY WE ARE WITNESSING A TRAGIC HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY WE ARE WITNESSING A TRAGIC HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN SOMALIA. IN THE HORN OF AFRICA. WHICH IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING ITS WORST DROUGHT IN OVER 60 YEARS. ACCORDING TO USAID, CROPS HAVE FAILED, LIVE STOCKS HAVE DIED, PRICES IN THE LOCAL MARKETS ARE TOO HIGH FOR MOST PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT THEY NEED TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES. ON JULY 20, 2011, THE UNITED NATIONS ANNOUNCED THAT FAMINE EXISTED IN TWO REGIONS IN SOMALIA. THE CRISIS IS AFFECTING OVER 11 MILLION PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE REGION, AND USAID ESTIMATES THAT OVER 3.2 MILLION PEOPLE ARE IN LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS AND THEY ARE IN NEED OF DIRE FOOD, WATER, AND MEDICAL ATTENTION. ADDITIONALLY, OVER 80% OF THOSE FLEEING SOMALIA ARE BELIEVED TO BE WOMEN AND CHILDREN. AT KENYA AND ETHIOPIA'S REFUGEE CAMPS, SOMALI CHILDREN UNDER FIVE ARE DYING AT AN ALARMING RATE. I VISITED A CAMP IN KENYA TWO YEARS AGO WHERE MANY OF THE REFUGEES FROM SOMALIA ARE GOING. THERE ARE FIVE TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE IN THAT CAMP AS THE CAMP CAN HANDLE. IT WAS OVERCROWDED TWO YEARS AGO, AND WITH THE DROUGHT IT IS JUST BECOMING ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SUSTAIN LIFE. AN ALARMING 60% OF THE PEOPLE ARE AT RISK. AND STILL IN A HELD TERRITORY, SUPPORTED BY AL QAEDA, AND THEY INITIALLY SAID THERE WAS NO DROUGHT. A DENIAL BECAUSE IN THE PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT THEY ARE IN CHARGE, THE DROUGHT IS VERY SERIOUS, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTHERN SUDAN. THEN THEY DID AGREE THAT THE DROUGHT WAS OCCURRING AND THEN SAID THEY WOULD ALLOW HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATIONS TO COME IN TO THAT AREA AND TO DISTRIBUTE FOOD AND MEDICINE. HOWEVER JUST LAST WEEK THEY CHANGED THEIR POSITION AGAIN. AND WE CANNOT HAVE THE POLITICAL WARLORDS AS WE SAW IN THE 1990'S WITH THE ORIGINAL DROUGHT THAT THE UNITED STATES BECAME INVOLVED IN SOMALIA, WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT SITUATION TO HAPPEN AGAIN. THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAM AND THE UNITED NATIONS ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET THE FOOD, WATER, AND MEDICAL ASSISTANCE INTO THAT AREA. AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THE AL SHABAB PEOPLE TO ALLOW THE FOOD TO COME IN. DURING A SIMILAR DROUGHT IN ETHIOPIA DURING THE EARLY 1980'S, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WAS SLOW TO RESPOND. RESULTING IN MORE THAN ONE MILLION DEATHS. THEN WORLD LEADERS SAID NEVER AGAIN. NOW WE ARE FACING A WORSENING HUMANITARIAN DISASTER THAT THREATENS TO TAKE EVEN MORE LIVES. WE MUST ACT AND SUPPORT THOSE IN NEED. I HAVE TO COMMEND USAID AND THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. YESTERDAY AT A HEARING WE HAD ON THIS SITUATION, MS. KROMER FROM THE USAID TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THEY HAD AN EARLY WARNING SYSTEM AND THEY HAD PREPOSITIONED FOOD WHICH SHOWS THAT PLANNING HAVE RESULTED IN LESS LOSS OF LIFE THAN WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD THEY NOT BEEN PREPOSITIONED. . BUT WE STILL HAVE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. LAST WEEK I INTRODUCED H.RES. 361 CALLING ATTENTION TO THIS CRISIS AND WE HAVE ALREADY OVER 50 CO-SPONSORS. INDEED, CONGRESS' TAKING NOTICE. MY COLLEAGUE, JIM MCGOVERN, JO ANN EMERSON, MEMBERS OF THE HUNGER CAUCUS, ALONG WITH MYSELF AND BARBARA LEE AND MAXINE WATERS AND GWEN MOORE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL ON THIS ISSUE. MS. MCCOLLUM ALSO HAS ADDED HER VOICE FROM MINNESOTA. THE CRISIS IS WORSENING THOUGH. THE FAMINE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM NETWORK BELIEVES WITHIN THE NEXT ONE OR TWO MONTHS THE FAMINE WILL SPREAD THROUGHOUT ALL OF SOUTHERN SOMALIA. AS THE SITUATION HAS GROWN MORE DIRE, OVER 600,000 SOMALIS HAVE FLED TO NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES, SOME WALKING HUNDREDS OF MILES TO REFUGEE CAMPS. THE ROADS TO THESE CAMPS IN NORTHERN KENYA AND EASTERN ETHIOPIA HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED BY "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND OTHERS AS ROADS TO DEATH. THOUSANDS OF WOMEN, CHILDREN AND ELDERLY ARE LEFT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WEAK FROM MALNUTRITION, UNABLE TO CONTINUE. THEY'RE RESTING ON THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY DIED. AND SO I ASK ALL OF YOU TO RESPOND TO THIS VERY SERIOUS SITUATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:32:00 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES MR. GOODLATTE FROM VIRGINIA FOR FIVE…

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES MR. GOODLATTE FROM VIRGINIA FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:32:07 AM

    MR. GOODLATTE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, MARCH 2, 1995, WAS A PIVOTAL DAY IN…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, MARCH 2, 1995, WAS A PIVOTAL DAY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. ON THAT DAY THE UNITED STATES SENATE FAILED BY ONE VOTE TO SEND A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE STATES FOR RATIFICATION. THE AMENDMENT HAD PASSED THE HOUSE BY THE REQUIRED 2/3 MAJORITY PREVIOUSLY AND THE SENATE VOTE WAS THE LAST LEGISLATIVE HURDLE BEFORE RATIFICATION BY THE STATES. IF THAT AMENDMENT HAD PASSED, THEN WE WOULD NOT BE DEALING WITH THE FISCAL CRISIS WE NOW FACE. IF THAT AMENDMENT HAD PASSED, THEN BALANCING THE BUDGET WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NORM RATHER THAN THE EXCEPTION OVER THE PAST DECADE AND WE WOULD HAVE NOTHING LIKE THE ANNUAL DEFICITS AND SKYROCKETING DEBT THAT WE MUST ADDRESS TODAY. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT LIKE 1995 THIS CONGRESS IS AGAIN STANDING AT A CROSSROADS AT THIS VERY MOMENT. THE DECISIONS WE MAKE THIS WEEK COULD STEER THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO TAKE ACTION TO ENSURE THAT OUR CHILDREN WILL FACE A MUCH BRIGHTER FISCAL PICTURE. WE MUST NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND WHILE, YES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DEAL WITH THE DEBT LIMIT SQUARELY IN FRONT OF US AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CUTS IN GOVERNMENT SPENDING, WE ALSO MUST HAVE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM, AND THAT LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. WE CAN, I HOPE, WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON SUCH AN AMENDMENT THIS WEEK. EXPERIENCE HAS PROVEN TIME AND AGAIN THAT CONGRESS CANNOT FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT LENGTH OF TIME REIN IN EXCESSIVE SPENDING. THE ANNUAL DEFICITS AND THE RESULTING DEBT CONTINUE TO GROW DUE TO POLITICAL PRESSURES AND DEPENDENCY ON GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. IN ORDER FOR CONGRESS TO BE ABLE TO CONSISTENTLY MAKE THE VERY TOUGH DECISIONS NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE LONG TERM, CONGRESS MUST HAVE AN EXTERNAL PRESSURE TO FORCE IT TO DO SO. THE MOST REALISTIC CHANCE WE HAVE TODAY TO ENACT THIS TYPE OF INSTITUTIONAL REFORM IS THROUGH A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO OUR CONSTITUTION. MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE INTRODUCED BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THIS CONGRESS. I INTRODUCED TWO VERSIONS ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE 112TH CONGRESS. H.J.RES. 2 IS THE EXACT TEXT THAT PASSED THE HOUSE IN 1995 AND FAILED IN THE SENATE BY ONE VOTE. THIS AMENDMENT REQUIRES THAT TOTAL ANNUAL OUTLAYS NOT EXCEED TOTAL ANNUAL RECEIPTS. IT ALSO REQUIRES A 3/5 MAJORITY TO RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT, AND IN ADDITION, THIS LEGISLATION HAS LIMITED EXCEPTIONS FOR TIMES OF WAR. H.J.RES. 1, WHICH I ALSO INTRODUCED, GOES MUCH FURTHER. IN ADDITION TO H.J.RES. 2, IT REQUIRES A 2/3 MAJORITY TO RAISE TAXES AND PROHIBITS SPENDING FROM EXCEEDING 18% OF G.D.P. IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, 47 REPUBLICAN SENATORS HAVE CO-SPONSORED A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT WHICH IS A STRONG SIGN THAT THE SENATE IS READY TO ENGAGE IN DEBATE ON THIS SUBJECT. OUR EXTRAORDINARY FISCAL CRISIS DEMANDS AN EXTRAORDINARY SOLUTION, SO WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO SUCCUMB TO POLITICAL POSTURING ON THIS ISSUE AT A POINT IN TIME THAT IS CRITICAL TO OUR NATION'S FUTURE. WE MUST RISE ABOVE THAT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES LEGISLATION THAT WILL GET AT LEAST 290 BIPARTISAN VOTES ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. SO AS WE CONSIDER A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT I ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO DEVOTE OUR EFFORT TO PASSING THE STRONGEST BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT CAN GARNER 2/3 OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS IN AMERICA. WE CAN MAKE THE TOUGH CHOICES AND CONTROL SPENDING, PAVING THE WAY FOR A RETURN TO SURPLUSES AND ULTIMATELY PAYING DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT OR WE CAN ALLOW BIG SPENDERS TO LEAD US FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OF CHRONIC DEFICITS AND LEAVE OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN SADDLED WITH DEBT THAT IS NOT OUR OWN. THE CHOICE IS OURS. THE STAKES ARE HIGH. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.

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  • 10:36:31 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WISCONSIN, MS. MOORE. FOR…

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WISCONSIN, MS. MOORE. FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:36:38 AM

    MS. MOORE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO BE ABLE TO ADD…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO BE ABLE TO ADD EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL.

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  • 10:36:44 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    MS. MOORE

    I HAD BREAKFAST THIS MORNING. I HAD GRANOLA AND YOGURT, A LITTLE FRUIT,…

    I HAD BREAKFAST THIS MORNING. I HAD GRANOLA AND YOGURT, A LITTLE FRUIT, EGG AND BACON SANDWICH, AND I'M FEELING IRRITABLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE MY COFFEE. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A DELICIOUS LUNCH THAT I PLANNED AT ABOUT NOONTIME. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, ON THE HORN OF AFRICA, 11 MILLION PEOPLE ARE FACING STARVATION AND NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE LAZY PEOPLE OR UNWORTHY PEOPLE BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM THE BIGGEST DROUGHT THAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN 60 YEARS, BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING FLOODING, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO STEPPED AWAY FROM THE LOVING CARE THAT WE USUALLY EXTEND TO OTHER OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, OTHERS WHO ARE HUMAN BEINGS ON THIS PLANET. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE. THERE IS AN OFFICIAL FAMINE THAT'S BEEN CALLED BY THE UNITED NATIONS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW WHAT A FAMINE IS, IT'S NOT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR THING LIKE ME. I DIDN'T HAVE MY PARTICULAR COFFEE THIS MORNING. FAMINE EXISTS WHEN AT LEAST 20% OF THE POPULATION HAS EXTREMELY LIMITED ACCESS TO FOOD. GLOBAL ACUTE MALNUTRITION EXCEEDS 30%. AND THE DEATH RATE EXCEEDS MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE A DAY. A SEVEN 7-MONTH-OLD SOMALI BOY WEIGHED ANY AMOUNT OF ANY OF OUR NEWBORNS. A 7-MONTH-OLD BOY WEIGHED SEVEN POUNDS. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN A DROUGHT. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE WORLD'S LARGEST HUMANITARIAN DONOR? WHEN THE UNITED NATIONS HAS CALLED FOR ON JULY 20, HAS ASKED FOR MORE THAN $1. BILLION TO SUPPORT THE HUMANITARIAN RESPONSE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS URGENTLY, DESPERATELY NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS BURGEONING HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT IS UNFOLDING? WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF CUTTING FUNDING TO OUR -- OF OUR FOREIGN AID AND PEACE FOOD BUDGET. THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 AGRICULTURE APPROPRIATION BUDGET, THE BILL THAT PASSED A FEW WEEKS AGO OVER MY OPPOSITION, CUT THIS PROGRAM BY $200 MILLION. IT WAS HEARTBREAKING TO SEE AMENDMENT AFTER AMENDMENT AFTER AMENDMENT COME FORWARD THAT CUT IT FURTHER AND EVEN AMENDMENTS TO ELIMINATE IT COMPLETELY. AS THE UNITED STATES, LARGEST FOOD HUMANITARIAN DONOR, WE NEED TO DO MORE. WE TALK ABOUT BALANCED BUDGET HERE, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD, OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE A BALANCED MEAL ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD ASK THAT WE NOT BECOME NUMB TO THE CONDITIONS OF PEOPLES AROUND THE WORLD. LESS THAN 1% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TOWARD FOREIGN AID, AND THAT INCLUDES OPERATIONS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING, MR. SPEAKER. I'M ASKING THAT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS OF DEBT AND DEFICITS THAT WE DO NOT TURN AN EYE AND A DEAF EAR TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE STARVING. AND, OF COURSE, BEFORE I YIELD BACK MY TIME, I JUST WANT TO MENTION, MR. SPEAKER, THAT, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHO SUFFERS DISPROPORTIONATELY AMONG THE POOR. THE USUAL SUSPECTS -- WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED AMONG THOSE WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE, THOSE WHO ARE STARVING AND THOSE WHO DIE, AND WITH THAT I WOULD YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:41:21 AM

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    MR. HERGER

    DAYS, MR. SPEAKER, SIX DAYS UNTIL WE EXCEED THE DEBT LIMIT AND WE STILL…

    DAYS, MR. SPEAKER, SIX DAYS UNTIL WE EXCEED THE DEBT LIMIT AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAN FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE FIRST 2 1/2 YEARS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FUTURE HE WANTS FOR AMERICA. THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES DISPLAY HIS COMMITMENT TO UNCHECKED GOVERNMENT SPENDING. THE PRESIDENT SUPPORTS MASSIVE TAX HIKES ON A NATION ALREADY ENDURING THE WORST JOBLESS RECOVERY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. THE PRESIDENT IS CONTENT TO IGNORE OUR ENTIMEMENT CRISIS. HIS ACTIONS -- HIS ENTITLEMENT CRISIS. HIS ACTIONS HAVE PUT THIS NATION IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE. WE'VE SEEN FAILURE IN LEADERSHIP FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. HE THREATEN TO VETO THE COMMONSENSE SOLUTIONS OF CUT, CAP AND BALANCE. THE REASONS, BY HIS OWN WORDS, HE WANTS A DEBT LIMIT INCREASE TO CARRY HIM THROUGH THE NEXT ELECTION. MR. SPEAKER, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. WE NEED ACTION AND WE NEED IT NOW. NO MORE SPEECHES, NO MORE RHETORIC. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN IS. IT'S TIME FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO COME TO THE NEGOTIATING TABLE AND WORK WITH US. WE'RE RUNNING A $1.6 TRILLION DEFICIT, BORROWING 40 CENTS OF EVERY $1 WE SPEND. WITHOUT ACTION WE CAN GUARANTEE OUR CHILDREN AND COMBRAND CHILDREN A FUTURE FAR -- GRANDCHILDREN A FUTURE FAR LESS BRIGHT THAN THE ONE OUR PARENTS LEFT US. REPUBLICANS ARE HERE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS, CUT SPENDING AND REFORM THE WAY BUSINESS IS DONE IN WASHINGTON. WE'RE READY WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD TURN AROUND OUR DEBT CRISIS AND BEGIN GETTING AMERICA BACK TO WORK. BUT THESE SOLUTIONS WILL REMAIN A FANTASY AS LONG AS THE PRESIDENT'S FOCUS REMAINS ON POLITICS AND RE-ELECTION RATHER THAN THE GOOD OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE HAVE SIX DAYS LEFT. IT'S TIME TO ACT.

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  • 10:44:01 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR AT THIS TIME RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR.…

    THE CHAIR AT THIS TIME RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. HIGGINS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:44:10 AM

    MR. HIGGINS

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF JAMES T. MALLOY. MANY KNEW…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO CELEBRATE THE LIFE OF JAMES T. MALLOY. MANY KNEW HIM AS THE LAST DOOR KEEPER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. WESTERN NEW YORKERS KNOW JIM AS A PROUD THIRD GENERATION IRISH AMERICAN AND A PROUD CAREER PUBLIC SERVANT. JIM WAS BORN ON JUNE 3, 1936. HE WAS RAISED IN SOUTH BUFFALO AND PAID HIS WAY THROUGH KINESHA COLLEGE. HE WORKED IN THE GREEN ELEVATOR ON BUFFALO'S WATERFRONT ON THE -- FOR THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF BUFFALO AND THE CITY OF LACKAWANNA. JIM CAME TO WASHINGTON, D.C. IN 1968 AT THE INVITATION OF CONGRESSMAN JOHN ROONEY. HE MANAGED THE HOUSE FINANCE OFFICE UNTIL 1974 WHEN HE WAS ELECTED DOOR KEEPER OF THE HOUSE. HE HELD THIS POSITION UNTIL IT WAS ELIMINATED IN 1995. AS THE LAST DOOR KEEPER OF THE HOUSE, JIM WAS A MEMBER OF AN ELITE GROUP. ONLY 34 PEOPLE SERVED IN THIS POSITION IN OUR 215-YEAR HISTORY. HE OVERSAW MORE THAN 400 EMPLOYEES AND ADMINISTERED A BUDGET OF $6.8 MILLION. HE INTRODUCED PRESIDENTS AND HEADS OF STATE AND COORDINATED 71 JOINT SESSIONS OF CONGRESS. . REGRETTABLY I DID NOT HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING DURING HIS TENURE, BUT HE WAS A FRIEND AND ENDLESS SOURCE OF HELP AND ADVICE. I HAD LONG BEEN INSPIRED IN MY OWN SERVICE BY HIS STRONG COMMITMENT TO THIS INSTITUTION. IN FACT, NUMEROUS WESTERN NEW YORKERS WERE INSPIRED TO CONSIDER POLITICAL CAREERS THANKS TO JIM MALLOY. IT WAS WELL-KNOWN THAT JIM HAD A PARTICULAR AFFECTION FOR HELPING WESTERN NEW YORKERS VISITING THE CAPITOL AND YOUNG BUFFALOIANS LOOKING FOR WORK IN OUR NATION'S CAPITOL AS WELL. JIM WAS RECOGNIZED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS FOR HIS SERVICE. HE RECEIVED THE OUTSTANDING CITIZEN AWARD FROM THE UNITED STATES AFL-CIO. THE PRESIDENT'S AWARD FROM THE NEW YORK FEDERATION OF POLICE. HE RECEIVED AN HONORARY DOCTOR OF LAWS DEGREE AND WAS NAMED THE CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER OF THE YEAR AWARD BY ROLL CALL. IN 19 -- IN 2005, I WAS A PROUD SPONSOR OF LEGISLATION THAT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW NAMING A POST OFFICE ON SELF PARK AVENUE IN OUR SHARED NEIGHBORHOOD OF SOUTH BUFFALO AFTER JAMES T. MALLOY. THE LOSS WILL BE FELT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME BY ALL WHO KNEW HIM. AT THIS TIME, MR. SPEAKER, I ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN HONOR OF A SERVANT OF THIS INSTITUTION, JAMES T. MALLOY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:46:56 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MS.…

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MS. SCHAKOWSKY, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:47:09 AM

    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS TO DRAW…

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE DEVASTATING EFFECTS THAT COULD BE CAUSED IF THE UNITED STATES WERE TO DEFAULT ON ITS DEBTS. FIRST, LET'S BE CLEAR THAT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING WILL HAVE NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER ON ANY NEW SPENDING THAT THE CONGRESS MIGHT DO. IT SIMPLY GIVING THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY TO PAY ITS BILLS. TO PAY ITS BILLS. FOR OBLIGATIONS THAT THE CONGRESS HAS ALREADY AUTHORIZED. SECOND, WHILE REPUBLICANS HAVE ATTEMPTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO PIN THE CURRENT DEFICIT ON PRESIDENT OBAMA, THE FACTS CANNOT BE DENIED. IT WAS THE POLICIES OF THE BUSH YEARS THAT GOT US HERE. IT WAS JUST A DECADE AGO THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON LEFT OFFICE NOT WITH JUST A BALANCED BUDGET BUT A SURPLUS. AND THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE DECLARED IN 2001, QUOTE, THE OUTLOOK FOR THE FEDERAL BUDGET OVER THE NEXT DECADE CONTINUES TO BE BRIGHT. THAT QUOTE OF COURSE CAME BEFORE THE 2001 BUSH TAX CUTS WERE SIGNED INTO LAW. TWO WARS THAT WEREN'T PAID FOR, PUT ON THE CREDIT CARD. TWO TAX CUTS THAT WEREN'T PAID FOR AND THAT MAINLY BENEFITED THE WEALTHY, AND A DEVASTATING RECESSION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PREVENTED HAD GOVERNMENT REGULATORS NOT TURNED A BLIND EYE TO WALL STREET GREED. THE BUSH POLICIES RAN UP THE BILLS. THOSE ARE THE BILLS OUR COUNTRY IS COMMITTED TO PAY AND THOSE ARE THE BILLS THAT NEED TO BE PAID. IF THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES IS TO BE PROTECTED. NOW THIS REPUBLICAN MANUFACTURED CRISIS COULD BE SOLVED IN FIVE MINUTES. IF WE SIMPLY PASS A CLEAN DEBT CEILING INCREASE, LIKE WE DID EIGHT TIMES DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, 18 TIMES UNDER RONALD REAGAN, AND THEN TURNED OUR ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY TO WAYS TO PUT OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER. FOCUSING ON THE REAL CRISIS WHICH IS THE JOBS CRISIS. INSTEAD REPUBLICANS ARE CHOOSING TO HOLD OUR NATION'S FINANCIAL STANDING HOSTAGE WITH POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES. ALLOWING A DEFAULT ON THE DEBT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A TAX ON EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY. INTEREST RATES ON EVERYTHING FROM MORTGAGES AND AUTO LOANS TO CREDIT CARDS AND SMALL BUSINESS LOANS WOULD IMMEDIATELY SORE -- SOAR. A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE SUGGESTS THE EFFECT OF AN INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES COULD COST A HOMEOWNER WITH A 30-YEAR MORTGAGE OF $1 2,000 AN ADDITIONAL $19,100 MORE OVER THE LIFE OF THE LOAN. A DROP IN THE STOCK MARKET WOULD HIT THE SAVINGS AND RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS OF MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS. LESS AVAILABLE CREDIT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS, AND LOWER ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT COULD COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS. IN ADDITION, IF THE COUNTRY CAN'T PAY ITS BILLS, AN UNTHINKABLE SCENARIO, BECOMES A REALITY. HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WHAT ASPECTS OF THE GOVERNMENT TO FUND AND WHAT BILLS TO PAY. 70 MILLION CHECKS ARE DUE TO GO OUT NEXT WEDNESDAY. THOSE INCLUDE SOCIAL SECURITY AND VETERANS, AND OUR MILITARY FAMILIES, AND THESE CHECKS ARE THREATENED. THAT IS THE THREAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE WILLING TO MAKE, HOLDING THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES HOSTAGE IN ORDER TO PUSH FOR EXTREME POLICIES THAT WOULD GUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AND DEVASTATE THE ECONOMY AND THE MIDDLE CLASS IN ORDER TO PROTECT HEDGE FUND MANAGERS AND CORPORATIONS THAT SHIP OUR JOBS OVERSEAS. THAT IS WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE ADVOCATING, BUT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO ASK FOR ONE PENNY MORE FOR MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH OUR FISCAL CHALLENGES, AND I HAVE OFFERED PROPOSALS FOR HOW TO DO THAT AND THE WAY TO PROTECT THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND WHAT IS NOW THE DISAPPEARING MIDDLE CLASS. FIRST, WE NEED TO CREATE JOBS. PUTTING BACK -- PEOPLE BACK TO WORK WILL RAISE REVENUES AND BRING DOWN THE DEFICIT AS A PROPORTION OF THE ECONOMY. SECOND, WE NEED TO ELIMINATE SPENDING WE DON'T NEED. SUCH AS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WASTE SPENT BY THE PENTAGON, BUT WE NEED TO PROTECT SPENDING AND VITAL PROGRAMS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND MEDICAID. AND FINALLY, WE NEED TO RAISE REVENUES IN A FAIR WAY. I HAVE INTRODUCED THE FAIRNESS AND TAXATION ACT, H.R. 1124, WHICH WOULD CREATE NEW TAXES -- NEW TAX BRACKETS BEGINNING AT 45% FOR INCOME OVER $1 MILLION A YEAR AND RISING TO 49% FOR INCOME AT $1 BILLION A YEAR. YES, THERE ARE AMERICANS WHO MAKE THAT. AND ACCORDING TO AN ESTIMATE BY CITIZENS FOR TAX JUSTICE, MY LEGISLATION COULD RAISE AS MUCH AS $800 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PROPOSALS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SO THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS SENIORS AND CHILDREN AND THE MIDDLE CLASS AND ALL THOSE WHO ASPIRE TO IT. RIGHT NOW THE AMERICAN DREAM ITSELF IS AT STAKE. IT IS SLIPPING THROUGH THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT USED TO BE MIDDLE CLASS. WE CANNOT TOLERATE THAT. WE NEED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. THANK YOU.

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  • 10:52:24 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN,…

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:52:38 AM

    MR. COHEN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME TO TALK BECAUSE MS.…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME TO TALK BECAUSE MS. SCHAKOWSKY HAS SAID JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING I WAS PLANNING TO SAY. SHE SAID IT EXTREMELY WELL AND SAID THE ISSUE. IT BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN BURDENED WITH PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE BUSH, REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND THE BUSH YEARS, WARS IN IRAQ, WARS IN AFGHANISTAN NOT PAID FOR, PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL NOT PAID FOR, AND BUSH TAX CUTS FOR WEALTHIEST AMERICANS WHICH HAVE CAUSED MOST OF THE DEFICIT, AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEBT CEILING. NOW WE ARE NOT CALLING ON THEM TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICE AND PAY FOR IT. MOST EVERYBODY IN AMERICA KNOWS ABOUT DIETING. MOST OF US ARE A LITTLE OVERWEIGHT. MICHELLE OBAMA WILL TELL YOU THAT ANY DAY. WE NEED TO WATCH OUR WEIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO DIET, YOU GOT TO REDUCE YOUR CALORIES, AND YOU GOT TO EXERCISE SOME MORE. SPEND SOME CALORIES, REDUCE SOME CALORIES. THAT'S THE WAY YOU DIET. THE SAME THING WITH THE BUDGET. YOU GOT A PROBLEM AT HOME WITH YOUR BUDGET, WELL, MAYBE YOU THINK I WON'T TAKE THAT VACATION AND GO TO MIAMI BEACH AND STAY IN THAT THREE STAR HOTEL, I'LL GO TO FORT WALTON AND STAY IN A TWO STAR HOTEL AND MAYBE GET ANOTHER JOB OR WORK SOME MORE OVERTIME. INCREASE YOUR INCOME, YOU DECREASE YOUR SPENDING. AND YOU GET IT TOGETHER. THIS CONGRESS, THOUGH, HAS GOT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IN DEALING WITH THIS AND THE DEBT CEILING IS INDEPENDENT OF ALL OF IT, MANY MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE HAVE PLEDGED NOT TO RAISE REVENUE. YOU'VE GOT TO DO BOTH. YOU GOT TO CUT SOME THINGS AND YOU CUT SOME THINGS THAT DON'T DECREASE YOUR ABILITY TO INCREASE JOBS LATER ON, OR INCREASE JOBS NOW. AND YOU INCREASE REVENUE AT THE SAME TIME. YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH. AND SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS HAVE PLEDGED NEVER TO DO REVENUE. WELL, THAT MEANS THEY GOT ONE ARM TIED BEHIND THEIR BACK. NEVER INCREASE REVENUE. YOU COME TO THE TABLE AND YOU TRY TO GET A BARGAIN, YOU NEGOTIATE IN POLITICS, YOU GOT TO HAVE BOTH HANDS AT THE TABLE. ONE GIVE, ONE TAKE. BOTH SIDES HAVE TO COME. OPEN PALMS. FRIENDSHIP. NO GUNS. HERE WE ARE. BUT THEY GOT ONE HAND TIED BEHIND THEIR BACK. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'VE GOT. SO WE ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO NEGOTIATE BECAUSE ONE SIDE COMES ILL-EQUIPPED, UNPREPARED, INCAPABLE. LAST WEEK WE HAD A NEW MEMBER HERE, CALIFORNIA, MISS HOHN, AND -- MS. HAHN, AND THE SPEAKER READ HER AND SHE PLEDGED TO SUPPORT AND SWEAR TO SUPPORT THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. WE GOT A DOMESTIC ENEMY RIGHT NOW. IT'S THE IDEA WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY OUR DEBT, THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES GOES BY, INTEREST RATES GO UP. JOBS GO DOWN. CREDIT CARD RATES GO UP, HOME MORTGAGE RATES GO UP, 401-K'S GO DOWN, STOCK MARKET DROPS 10%, YET WE ARE NOT DOING T WE ARE CONSIDERING A PLEDGE TO SOME THIRD PARTY PERSON THAT SAID, NO NEW REVENUE. ARM BEHIND MY BACK INSTEAD OF I WILL SUPPORT THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'VE GOT. HAD A TOWN HALL LAST NIGHT ON THE TELEPHONE. MY CONSTITUENTS CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE THE PROBLEM. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS COMING, THEIR VETERANS CHECKS COMING. THEY COULD BE CUT OFF IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE AND WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY OUR DEBT. PEOPLE LIVING SIMPLY ON SOCIAL SECURITY ARE ENDANGERED, YET MILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES GO ON. HEDGE FUND GUYS, THEY ARE EARN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS, BILLIONS FOR SOME, PAY 15%. SOMETHING CALLED CARRIED INTEREST ON THEIR INCOME. 15%, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON OUT THERE IS PAYING 25%, 26%, 34% AT THE MOST. 15% FOR THE RICHEST GUYS IN NEW YORK SPENDING MONEY OUTRAGEOUSLY. AND THE ONES ALMOST BROUGHT THIS ECONOMY DOWN. SOMEBODY ASKED ME IS THIS THING GOING TO PASS? I DON'T KNOW. BUT I TELL YOU THIS, IN MY LIFE, AND I HOPE NOBODY OUT HERE HAS THAT SITUATION, MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE HAD KIDNEY STONES, THEY ARE EASIER TO PASS THAN THIS. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 10:56:47 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. PENCE,…

    AT THIS TIME THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. PENCE, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:56:53 AM

    MR. PENCE

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    MR. PENCE

    IS A DIFFICULT TIME IN THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. FAMILIES…

    IS A DIFFICULT TIME IN THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. FAMILIES ARE HURTING. OUR ECONOMY IS STRUGGLING. THE ECONOMIC POLICIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION HAVE FAILED TO TURN AROUND THIS GREAT RECESSION AS IT HAS COME TO BE KNOWN. AND I BELIEVE THAT RUN AWAY FEDERAL SPENDING, DEFICITS, AND DEBT ARE A BARRIER TO OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. A BARRIER TO PUTTING AMERICANS BACK TO WORK. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE FISCAL DIRECTION OF THIS GOVERNMENT FOR THIS GENERATION, FOR JOBS FOR AMERICANS TODAY, AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. WHO ARE FACING A MOUNTAIN RANGE OF DEBT. $14 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT. $1.65 TRILLION DEFICIT THIS YEAR ALONE. WHAT MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, I FOUGHT AGAINST RUN AWAY SPENDING ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS. I OPPOSED BIG GOVERNMENT PLANS WHEN THEY WERE OFFERED BY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS AND IN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSES. I THOUGHT -- FOUGHT WITH EQUAL VIGOR WITH THE SPENDING, BAILOUTS, AND TAKEOVERS OF THE RECENT DEMOCRAT CONGRESS AND THIS ADMINISTRATION. BUT NOW WE COME TO ANOTHER DEBT CEILING VOTE. AND AS THE LATE RUSSELL KIRK WROTE, POLITICS IS THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING IN AND THEY KNOW IF YOU ODETTE YOU PAY DEBTS. WE HAVE -- IF YOU OWE DEBT YOU PAY DEBTS. WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO PAY THE BILL. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALSO KNOW WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SET OUR NATION ON A COURSE OF LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS ONCE AGAIN. NOW, I AM STILL STUDYING SPEAKER BOEHNER'S PROPOSAL. BUT THERE IS MUCH THAT RECOMMENDS IT. I HAVE LONG SAID THERE SHOULD BE NO INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING WITHOUT REAL AND MEANINGFUL SPENDING CUTS AND REFORMS IN THE SHORT TERM AND IN THE LONG TERM. AND IN MANY RESPECTS THE DEAL NEGOTIATED WITH SENATE LEADERS BY SPEAKER BOEHNER MEETS THAT STANDARD. THERE ARE NO TAX INCREASES IN THE BILL. AFTER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BILL TODAY THERE WILL FOR CERTAIN, ACCORDING TO C.B.O., BE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR CUTS FOR ANY INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING. ALSO THERE ARE SPENDING CAPS, A COMMISSION, AND THE POSSIBILITY OF LONG-TERM ENTITLEMENT REFORM. ALL OF THIS COMMENDS THE BOEHNER PLAN AS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP TOWARDS FISCAL DISCIPLINE AND REFORM. YOU'LL ALSO RECALL AT SOME POINT VOTE FOR A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. IT'S MY BELIEF IN THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT LAST ELEMENT THAT BRINGS ME TO THE FLOOR TODAY. I RISE TO URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ON THE BOEHNER PLAN. BUT ALSO TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ABOUT BRINGING A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR THAT COULD ENJOY BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. . LOOK, WASHINGTON, D.C., IS NOT ONLY BROKE, IT'S BROKEN. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SEEN BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES RUN UP DEFICITS AND DEBT. BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES LIVE OUTSIDE THE MEANS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEY KNOW IN THEIR HEART OF HEARTS THAT SOMETHING IS MISSING. I BELIEVE THAT'S A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. NOW, I'VE AUTHORED THE SPENDING LIMIT AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. I SUPPORT THE STOUT VERSION OF A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT REPUBLICANS MARKED UP AND REFERENCED IN THE CUT, CAP AND BALANCE BILL, A SPENDING LIMIT CAP, A SUPERMAJORITY ON TAX INCREASES. BUT I DON'T THINK IT TAKES ANY GREAT INSIGHT TO KNOW THAT THAT BILL WILL LIKELY GET THE 290 VOTES IT NEEDS TO SEND IT TO THE SENATE AND SEND IT TO THE STATE. SO IN ADDITION TO VOTING ON THAT BILL WITH SPENDING CONSTRAINTS AND OTHERS, I BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME TO BRING THE HISTORIC BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT BACK TO THE FLOOR OF THE CONGRESS. I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE NO INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING UNLESS THIS CONGRESS DOES EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER TO SEND A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE AND TO THE STATES FOR RATIFICATION. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT MOMENT. I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE MOST PROMINENT MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRAT MINORITY IN THIS CONGRESS TODAY, AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. AND SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND. KEEP AN OPEN MIND TO THE BOEHNER PLAN. I'M CONTINUING TO STUDY IT AND SEEING IF WE CAN EMBRACE IT AS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP ON FISCAL DISCIPLINE AND REFORM, FINDING A WAY TO PAY THE NATION'S BILLS TO CHANGE OUR FISCAL DIRECTION. BUT I ALSO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, LET US BRING TO THIS FLOOR A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT COULD ENJOY BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, TO KNOW WE CAN NOT ONLY MAKE PROGRESS FOR FISCAL DISCIPLINE AND REFORM BUT WE CAN MAKE HISTORY BY RESTORING TO THE NATIONAL CHARTER OR PLACING IN THE NATIONAL CHARTER THOSE RESTRAINTS ON SPENDING THAT THIS NATION'S CAPITAL UNDER BOTH PARTIES SO DESPERATELY NEEDS.

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  • 11:02:50 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU, MR. PENCE. THE CHAIR…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU, MR. PENCE. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WATERS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 11:02:56 AM

    MS. WATERS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. FOR THE FIRST TIME…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY, WE ARE AT THE BRINK OF COMPROMISING THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. THE PLEDGE THAT AMERICA HAS MADE TO BE THE STRONGEST, MOST TRUSTWORTHY ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, THE PROMISE THAT WE WILL ALWAYS KEEP OUR WORD AND PAY BACK THE MONEY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT. AND WHY ARE WE ON THE BRINK OF A DEFAULT CRISIS? IT IS BECAUSE -- IS IT BECAUSE OF A NATURAL DISASTER THAT'S DEVASTATED OUR NATION? IS IT BECAUSE OF A CATASTROPHIC NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT? IS IT BECAUSE OF ANOTHER MELTDOWN OF OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM LIKE THE ONE WE SAW IN 2008? NO. THE DEFAULT CRISIS IS FOR NONE OF THESE REASONS. INSTEAD, IT IS A CRISIS WHOLLY MANUFACTURED BY MY REPUBLICANS COLLEAGUES WHO ARE HOLDING OUR ECONOMY HOSTAGE TO PURSUE A RADICAL AGENDA. THIS IS AN AGENDA THAT SEEKS TO CONTINUE THE BUSH POLICIES OF WARS AND TAX CUTS PAID FOR BY UNDOING THE NEW DEALS, SHRINKING THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO RECOVER FROM A FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT WAS CREATED BY WALL STREET. MR. SPEAKER, THE DEBT CEILING IS BEING USED AS POLITICAL LEMPLING TO PURSUE THIS AGENDA. REMEMBER, THE DEBT CEILING WAS RAISED 18 TIMES UNDER PRESIDENT REAGAN AND SEVEN TIMES UNDER PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH. INSTEAD OF THIS PHONY CRISIS, WE SHOULD BE DEBATING THE REAL CRISIS FACING THIS NATION. THE CRISIS THAT IS CONSISTENTLY NAMED AS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS. THAT IS THE JOBS CRISIS. TODAY ABOUT 14 MILLION PEOPLE ARE UNEMPLOYED. WAGES ARE DECLINING AND HOME VALUES ARE STILL PLUMMETING. THE UNSURPRISING RESULT IS CONSUMERS AREN'T BUYING. BUSINESSES DON'T NEED TO HIRE AS MANY WORKERS, AND THE CYCLE CONTINUES. IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES, THESE PROBLEMS ARE EVEN WORSE. WITH OVER 16% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND 11% OF HISPANICS OUT OF WORK. IN FACT, JUST YESTERDAY THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER REPORTED THAT WHILE ALL HOUSEHOLDS LOST WEALTH DURING THE RECESSION, MINORITY FAMILIES EXPERIENCED DISPROPORTIONATE LOSSES AND THE WEALTH GAP BETWEEN MINORITIES AND WHITE HOUSEHOLDS IS ACTUALLY GROWING. THE MEDIUM WEALTH OF U.S. HOUSEHOLDS IN 2009 WAS $13,000 COMPARED TO JUST OVER $6,000 FOR HISPANICS AND $5,600 FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. BUT TO HEAR MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES, IT'S AS IF THESE UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS ARE LIVING IN THE SHADOWS INSTEAD OF THE COMMUNITIES WE REPRESENT. BECAUSE OF INSTEAD OF PURSUING A JOBS AGENDA, MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE PROPOSED A CONTINUATION OF FAILED BUSH POLICIES. THIS TIME ON STEROIDS. FIRST UNDER THE RYAN BUDGET AND NOW UNDER THESE DEBT CEILING HOSTAGE NEGOTIATIONS, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ARE PUSHING TO CUT MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICAID AND JOB-CREATING DOMESTIC PROGRAMS NO MATTER THE COST. MR. SPEAKER, NOW IS THE TIME TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT RETREAT. WE NEED JOBS TO GET PEOPLE EMPLOYED AND GET THEM BACK PAYING TAXES TO PAY DOWN OUR DEFICIT. IN FACT, THE CONGRESSIONAL PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS IS HAPPY TO PROVIDE FOR YOU, MR. SPEAKER, WITH A LONG LIST OF WAYS TO CREATE JOBS. WE CAN CREATE A NEW CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS. WE CAN CLOSE TAX LOOPHOLES AND BRING JOBS BACK FROM OVERSEAS. WE CAN ENCOURAGE INVESTMENTS IN THE NEW GREEN ECONOMY, AND WE CAN PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR BUSINESSES TO TRAIN AND HIRE THE LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED. AND GUESS WHAT, WE CAN DO THIS WHILE BALANCING THE BUDGET. IN FACT, THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET OFFERED BY THE CONGRESSIONAL PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS CAN BALANCE OUR BOOKS AT LEAST 10 YEARS BEFORE THE RYAN BUDGET. MR. SPEAKER, I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND OPPOSED TO REPUBLICAN EFFORTS TO PERPETUATE THIS DEFAULT CRISIS AND BALANCE OUR BUDGET ON THE BACKS OF SENIORS AND THE MIDDLE CLASS. IT WILL AMOUNT TO AN UNMITIGATED AND UNPRECEDENTED DISASTER TO NOT ONLY AMERICANS' REPUTATION BUT TO OUR CAPITAL MARKETS, OUR JOB-CREATING BUSINESSES AND OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY. MR. SPEAKER, I HELD TWO TOWN HALL MEETINGS THIS PAST WEEKEND ON SATURDAY. ONE IN THE CITY OF ENGELWOOD. ONE IN THE AREA OF WESTCHESTER. THEY MADE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT US TO INCREASE THIS DEBT LIMIT. THEY WANT US TO GET ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF CREATING JOBS. THEY WANT TO CLOSE TAX LOOPHOLES FOR THE RICHEST CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA THAT RECEIVE TAX BREAKS UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THEY'RE SICK OF US PAYING WITH THIS ISSUE. THEY WANT US TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 11:08:34 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

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    THE SPEAKER

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED TODAY BY OUR GUEST…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED TODAY BY OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN, REVEREND RICK POSTEL, THE CHRISTIAN RENEWAL CHURCH IN BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA. THE CHAPLAIN DEMRVERAGE LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU IN JESUS' NAME, ON BEHALF OF THIS GREAT NATION. WE ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS OF OUR TRANSGRESSIONS AND TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS AND FAVOR UPON AMERICA. KEEP US MINDFUL OF YOUR WORD THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS EXALTS A NATION, THAT SIN IS A REPROACH TO ANY PEOPLE. GRANT THESE REPRESENTATIVES WHICH IT'SDOM TO MAKE DECISIONS -- WISDOM TO MAKE DECISIONS TO STRENGTHEN OUR NATION, MOTIVATED MORE BY YOUR HAND THAN BY PARTISAN CONCERN. GRANT THEM GRACE TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS AND MINDS. MAY THE CLARITY AND CHARITY OF THEIR WORDS REFLECT RESPECT FOR THEIR COLLEAGUES. MAY THEIR DECISIONS OF TODAY NOT BECOME FUTURE APOLOGIES BUT MAY THEY BE A STATEMENT OF THIS CONGRESS' CHARACTER, THEIR FIRM RESOLVE AND A HOPE FOR A BETTER AMERICA. ALL THIS WE ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, YOUR SON, AND OUR SAVIOR, AMEN.

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  • 12:01:58 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    CHAIR HAS EXAMINED THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES…

    CHAIR HAS EXAMINED THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES HIS APPROVAL THEREOF. THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. THE PLEDGE OF ALIEGEAS TODAY WILL BE LED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. SIRES.

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    MR. SIRES

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE…

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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  • 12:02:29 PM

    THE SPEAKER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. KINGSTON, IS RECOGNIZED…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. KINGSTON, IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. KINGSTON

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN TODAY IS MR. RICK POSTEL FROM…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN TODAY IS MR. RICK POSTEL FROM BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA. RICK IS A NATIVE OF GASTONIA, NORTH CAROLINA, AND RECEIVED HIS B.S. IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT FROM TROY STATE UNIVERSITY AND LATER THE MASTER DEGREE IN THEOLOGY FROM BEACON UNIVERSITY IN COLUMBUS, GEORGIA. HE CURRENTLY LIVES IN BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA, WITH HIS WIFE, AMY, AND THEIR THREE CHILDREN. AFTER GRADUATING FROM SCHOOL, RICK SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE BASE AT MOODY AIR FORCE FROM 1981 TO 1986. HE TRAVELED EXTENSIVELY WHILE IN THE AIR FORCE AND WORKED ON THE AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE UNIT WHILE AT MOODY, FACILITATING F-4 PHANTOM AIRCRAFTS. AFTER HIS SERVICE IN THE AIR FORCE, RICK SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES POST OFFICE FROM 1986 TO 2000. AND THEN HE JOINED THE STAFF OF CHRISTIAN RENEWAL CHURCH IN BRUNSWICK. HE CURRENTLY TEACHES RELIGIOUS STUDIES AT HERITAGE CHRISTIAN ACADEMY IN BRUNSWICK AND HAS SERVED AS GUEST CHAL CHAPLAIN NOT ONLY WITH US HERE TODAY BUT IN THE GEORGIA STATE LEGISLATURE ON THE SENATE AND ON THE HOUSE SIDE. HE TRAVELS EXTENSIVELY AND HAS BEEN TO MEXICO MANY TIMES ON A MISSION TRIP. HIS WIFE, AMY, IS WITH HIM TODAY ALONG WITH 18-YEAR-OLD SAM AND 16-YEAR-OLD CHARLIE AND 14-YARD LINE HAILY. -- 14-YEAR-OLD HAILY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE WELCOME WITH ME PASTOR RICK POSTEL. THANK YOU.

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  • 12:04:12 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR WILL NOW ENTERTAIN UP TO 15 FURTHER REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE…

    THE CHAIR WILL NOW ENTERTAIN UP TO 15 FURTHER REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES ON EACH SIDE OF THE AISLE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA RISE?

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    THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    HILL" NEWSPAPER RECENTLY REPORTED THAT THERE'S ANOTHER PROMINENT GLITCH IN…

    HILL" NEWSPAPER RECENTLY REPORTED THAT THERE'S ANOTHER PROMINENT GLITCH IN LAST YEAR'S HEALTH CARE LAW. MILLIONS OF FAMILIES COULD STRUGGLE TO PURCHASE INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THE SLOPPY MANNER IN WHICH THE BILL WAS WRITTEN.

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  • 12:04:37 PM

    MR. PITTS

    THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL PAY INSURANCE. IF THE INSURANCE OFFERED BY AN…

    THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL PAY INSURANCE. IF THE INSURANCE OFFERED BY AN EMPLOYER IS DEEMED AFFORDABLE BY THE GOVERNMENT, THEN AN EMPLOYEE MUST PURCHASE IT. HOWEVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL ONLY LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL PLANS OFFERED BY COMPANIES, NOT THE FAMILY PLANS. WHILE THE PLAN FOR AN INDIVIDUAL MAY BE AFFORDABLE, THE FAMILY PLAN COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. CORRECTING THIS MISTAKE IN THE LAW WOULD MEAN AT LEAST $50 BILLION MORE PER YEAR IN GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES. THE PRESIDENT TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE NEW HEALTH CARE LAW WOULD NOT INCREASE THE DEFICIT, NOW WE FIND YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS BILL WILL COST BOTH AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAR MORE THAN WHAT WAS CLAIMED. CLEARLY WE NEED FULL REPEAL BEFORE THIS LAW FULL OF GLITCHES AND MANDATES IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED, BANKRUPTING FAMILIES AND THE GOVERNMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 12:05:33 PM

    MR. POE

    REQUEST PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE, --

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    HOUSE LEADERSHIP HAS WALKED AWAY FROM THE NEGOTIATING TABLE THREE TIMES…

    HOUSE LEADERSHIP HAS WALKED AWAY FROM THE NEGOTIATING TABLE THREE TIMES AND CONTINUES TO PUSH THEIR PLAN TO CUT MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE BENEFITS, PROTECT THE TOP 2% OF THE AMERICANS AT THE EXPENSE OF 98% OF OUR FAMILIES. PASS A SHORT-TERM DEAL THAT WOULD LEAD TO CREDIT DOWNGRADE, HIGHER INTEREST RATES AND TAX HIKE ON EVERY AMERICAN AND REPEAT THIS CRISIS NEXT YEAR.

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  • 12:06:02 PM

    MR. GREEN

    LET ME READ YOU SOME EMAILS I'VE RECEIVED. I'M DISABLED, 57-YEAR-OLD…

    LET ME READ YOU SOME EMAILS I'VE RECEIVED. I'M DISABLED, 57-YEAR-OLD GENTLEMAN WHO IS RESTRICTED IN A WHEELCHAIR. I THANK GOD I LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE I'M ABLE TO RECEIVE DISABILITY INCOME LIKE MILLIONS OF OTHER DISABLED AMERICANS AND SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS. I'M AFRAID IF THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP GETS THEIR WAY I'LL SOON BE LIVING ON THE STREET. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THE DEFAULT WOULD CAUSE EVEN MORE DIRE STATES ARE FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER -- DIRE STRAITS FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. THEY DON'T COUNT THE REPERCUSSION OF HIGHER INTEREST RATES, LOWER EARNINGS AND OTHER INVESTMENTS AS DEGREES, PRINCIPALS. WHAT WE NEED IS NOT A REPUBLICAN PLAN OR A DEMOCRATIC PLAN, WE NEED AN AMERICAN PLAN TO DEAL WITH OUR DEFICIT THAT WILL TAKE CARE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE DIRE CONSEQUENCES NEXT TUESDAY.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA RISE?

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    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY…

    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. WILSON

    MR. SPEAKER, IN "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" FRED BARNES DOCUMENTED ON JULY…

    MR. SPEAKER, IN "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" FRED BARNES DOCUMENTED ON JULY 21 THAT IN 1993 CANADA FACED A FISCAL DISASTER SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE'RE FACING TODAY. GOVERNMENT SPENDING WAS ON THE RISE, HUGE DEFICITS WERE SETTING PEACE TIME RECORDS AND THE ECONOMY WAS STAGNANT AND UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAT WAS AROUND 9% WITH INTEREST PAYMENTS ON DEBT USING 35 CENTS OF EVERY TAX DOLLAR. THE NEWLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER IN 1993 LISTENED TO THE VOTERS BY STATING, QUOTE, CANADIANS HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WANT THE DEFICIT BROUGHT DOWN BY REDUCING GOVERNMENT SPENDING, NOT BY RAISING TAXES AND WE AGREE, END OF QUOTE. BY SPENDING -- BY CUTTING SPENDING, THE CANADIAN ECONOMY ROARED BACK FROM 1995 TO 1998 AND TURNED A $36.6 BILLION DEFICIT INTO A $3 BILLION SURPLUS. THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ABLE TO PUT ASIDE PARTISAN POLITICS AND LISTENED TO THE WISHES OF THE CANADIAN PEOPLE. BY LEADING IN A MANNER THAT CUT SPENDING INSTEAD OF RAISING TAXES, THE PRIME MINISTER PUT CANADA FIRST. OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD CHANGE FROM HIS FAILED POLICIES AND STOP TAX INCREASES.

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    TO PREVENT THE GOVERNMENT FROM DEFAULTING ON ITS LOANS.

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    MR. SIRES

    THE MAJORITY HAS COME UP WITH A PLAN TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. FIRST, THE…

    THE MAJORITY HAS COME UP WITH A PLAN TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. FIRST, THE BUDGET TRIES TO END MEDICARE AND GUT MEDICAID. ALL WHILE PROTECTING TAX BREAKS FOR BIG OIL AND CORPORATIONS THAT SEND JOBS OVERSEAS. THEN IT WAS THE SO-CALLED CUT, CAP AND BALANCE TO ACHIEVE THE SAME OBJECTIVE. NOW THE SPEAKER HAS PUT FORTH ANOTHER PLAN THAT SEEKS THE SAME GOALS SO THEY CAN IMPOSE CUTS ON MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AS WELL AS SET THEIR SIGHTS ON SOCIAL SECURITY. THIS PLAN WILL KEEP THE CRISIS GOING WITH A TEMPORARY INCREASE ON THE DEBT CEILING, LEAVING THE CLOUD OF UNCERTAINTY OVER OUR ECONOMY. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON A COMPROMISED PLAN THAT MAJORITY LEADER REID HAS PRESENTED TO EXTEND THE DEBT CEILING THROUGH 2012 TO PREVENT CERTAINTY TO THE MARKETS WITHOUT HURTING THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY, AS WELL PROTECT MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY FROM CUTS. MR. SPEAKER, WE MUST ACCEPT THE COMPROMISED PLAN TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANOTHER RECESSION AND SAVE JOBS IN AMERICA. I YIELD BACK.

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    MADAM SECRETARY. THE SECRETARY: I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED BY THE SENATE TO INFORM THE HOUSE THAT THE SENATE AGREED TO THE REQUEST OF THE HOUSE TO RETURN THE BILL, H.R. 1309, CITED AS THE FLOOD INSURANCE REFORM ACT OF 2011 TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

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    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    SPEAKER, OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS THE E.P.A. HAS SENT ALMOST $100 MILLION OF…

    SPEAKER, OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS THE E.P.A. HAS SENT ALMOST $100 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND GREEN PROJECTS IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES. IN 2010 ALONE THE E.P.A. GAVE $18 -- 18 GRANTS TO OUR GOOD FRIEND, THE CHINESE. WHY DOES THE E.P.A. DO THAT? WE OWE THE CHINESE OVER $1 TRILLION. WHY ARE WE ADDING TO OUR DEBT IN MISGUIDED HOPES THAT THEY CAN CLEAN UP THE SMOGGY SKIES IN CHINA WITH AMERICAN GRANT MONEY? THERE IS MORE. WHY IS THE BREATHE EASY DJAKARTA PROGRAM IN INDONESIA THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TAXPAYERS IN HOUSTON, TEXAS? WELL, IT'S NOT. I DON'T BREATHE EASIER KNOWING GREEN MONEY FROM THE U.S. IS FINANCING GREEN DEVELOPMENT IN INDONESIA. AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE FACING SOMEWHAT OF A FINANCIAL PROBLEM, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BE TRYING TO GREEN THE REST OF THE WORLD TOO. I'M FOR PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND IN HOPES OF CONTROLLING POLLUTION IN OUR COUNTRIES. LET'S GREEN AMERICA FIRST, NOT CHINA. AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE, REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MRS. CAPPS

    MR. SPEAKER, IN THE OVER 200 DAYS SINCE THE MAJORITY HAS CONTROLLED THIS…

    MR. SPEAKER, IN THE OVER 200 DAYS SINCE THE MAJORITY HAS CONTROLLED THIS HOUSE, THEY HAVE YET TO BRING A BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT WOULD CREATE JOBS OR HELP WORKING FAMILIES. NOT ONE. NOT ONE BILL TO CREATE JOBS AND BUILD A STRONGER ECONOMY FOR THE FUTURE, NOT ONE BILL TO INVEST IN EDUCATION, INNOVATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE. INSTEAD WE HAVE A PARTISAN AGENDA TO UNFAIRLY BURDEN THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH DEEP CUTS WHILE PRESERVING TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND LOOPHOLES FOR BIG OIL AND CORPORATIONS THAT SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS. AND TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, THE MAJORITY IS THREATENING TO FORCE AN UNPRECEDENTED DEFAULT ON OUR NATION'S DEBT. DEFAULT WOULD DESTROY CLOSE TO 700,000 JOBS, SPIKE INTEREST RATES ON CREDIT CARDS AND MORTGAGES AND CAUSE UNTOLD DAMAGE TO OUR STRUGGLING ECONOMY. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE MARKETS ARE LOOKING FOR AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT. THEY WANT US TO HELP CREATE JOBS AND REDUCE THE DEFICIT, THEY WANT US TO COMPROMISE ON A FAIR AND BALANCED APPROACH THAT DOESN'T JUST KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TODAY TO PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COUNTRY AND I SUPPORT THIS RESPONSIBLE APPROACH AND URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. I YIELD BACK.

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE AMERICA STANDS ON THE -- AMERICA STANDS ON THE BRIDGE OF OUR NATION'S…

    THE AMERICA STANDS ON THE -- AMERICA STANDS ON THE BRIDGE OF OUR NATION'S FIRST DEFAULT IN HISTORY. OUR ECONOMY IS STRUGGLING. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BORROWS $188 MILLION EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY. FOR TOO LONG BOTH PARTIES HAVE TURNED A BLIND EYE TO OUR GOVERNMENT'S BUDGETARY MESS. WASHINGTON NEEDS TO SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THESE CHALLENGES TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE. SO FAR IT HAS FAILED TO DO SO. CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT NEED TO QUIT THE PARTISAN GAMES AND DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF AMERICA. THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEMAND NOTHING LESS. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. TSONGAS

    MR. SPEAKER, I RECENTLY HEARD FROM A LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY IN MY…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RECENTLY HEARD FROM A LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY IN MY DISTRICT THAT IS SET TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION, CREATING OVER 100 CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND CREASING THE NUMBER OF SENIORS ABLE TO -- INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SENIORS ABLE TO RECEIVE QUALITY CARE. THE FINANCING WAS IN PLACE. BUT WHEN MY CONSTITUENT MET WITH HIS BANK THIS WEEK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, THE BANK PUT THE DEAL ON HOLD. WITH THE THREAT OF A U.S. DEFAULT UNRESOLVED, THE BANK WAS CONCERNED THAT THE FACILITY'S PAYMENTS FOR FROM MEDICARE AND MEDICAID WOULD STOP, LEAVING THEM UNABLE TO REPAIR THAT I -- REPAY THEIR LOANS. A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION LIKE THE ONE BEING PROPOSED WON'T HELP MY CONSTITUENT REASSURE HIS BANK OR CREATE THE KIND OF LONG-TERM CERTAINTY NEEDED IN THIS STILL FRAGILE ECONOMY. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT SHORT-TERM PROPOSALS THAT PUSH US TO THE BRINK OF DEFAULT AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND CALL ON THE HOUSE TO PASS A PLAN THAT REDUCES THE DEFICIT WHILE PROVIDING REAL LONG-TERM ECONOMIC CERTAINTY TO OUR FINANCIAL MARKETS, TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO NEED THE JOBS THESE BUSINESSES CREATE. THANK YOU.

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    MR. BROUN

    MR. SPEAKER, IN THE MIDST OF ALL THE TALK ABOUT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING,…

    MR. SPEAKER, IN THE MIDST OF ALL THE TALK ABOUT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING, I DON'T HEAR ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN THIS EQUATION. OUR UNSUSTAINABLE NATIONAL DEBT. EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. BUT IF WE TRULY WANT TO GET OUR ECONOMY BACK ON ITS FEET, WE NEED TO BEGIN PAYING OFF THE DEBT THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS PREDECESSORS HAVE CREATED. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT OUR DEMOCRATIC LEADERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE SENATE CARE MORE ABOUT MAKING CAMPAIGN SPEECHES THAN ABOUT THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. LIBERALS WANT TO RAISE TAXES, BUT OF COURSE NOT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTIONS. AND THEY WANT TO SHAM US WITH TALKS ABOUT FUTURE CUTS THAT WE WILL NEVER SEE MATERIALIZE. IT'S LIKE ONE BIG PONZI SCHEME AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY INTO IT. WE NEED SPENDING CUTS WE NEED SPENDING CUTS NOW AND PAY DOWN THE OUTRAGEOUS DEBT. I URGE BOTH MY COLLEAGUES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT TO FALL FOR THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S BEEN 29 WEEKS SINCE REPUBLICANS TOOK CONTROL OF THE…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S BEEN 29 WEEKS SINCE REPUBLICANS TOOK CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND YET THEY HAVE FAILED TO BRING A SINGLE JOBS BILL TO THE FLOOR. IN FACT I JUST LEARNED THEIR PROPOSAL ARE ESTIMATED TO COST ANOTHER TWO MILLION LOST JOBS. INSTEAD THEY ARE WASTING TIME PERSONING BILLS THAT WILL NEVER BECOME -- PUSHING BILLS THAT WILL NEVER BECOME LAW BUT DO MAKE THEIR POSITION CLEAR. THEY ARE WILLING TO HOLD THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES HOSTAGE. WHICH WILL DEVASTATE THE ECONOMY AND MIDDLE CLASS WHILE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO PROTECT MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. AND COMPANIES THAT SHIP AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS. WE NEED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING AND THEN TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE REAL CRISIS, THE JOBS CRISIS. WE CAN REVIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM , WE MUST.

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    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE 14.7 MILLION AMERICANS WHO…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE 14.7 MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE UNABLE TO FIND JOBS. THIS ADMINISTRATION'S RECKLESS SPENDING POLICIES, MASSIVE BAILOUTS, AND EXCESSIVE REGULATIONS HAVE DRIVEN THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE TO AN ASTOUNDING 9.2%. DEMOCRATS HAVE SHOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN THEY CARE MORE ABOUT THE BUREAUCRATS THAT PREVENT JOBS THAN THE BUSINESSES THAT CREATE THEM. EVERY YEAR UN-ELECTED BUREAUCRATS ISSUE MORE THAN 3,000 FINAL RULES. THAT'S CLOSE TO 10 RULES A DAY. MAKE NO MISTAKE. FEDERAL IMPOSED RULES CONSUME PRECIOUS TIME AND RESOURCES. BUSINESSES ARE LESS LIKELY TO INVEST IN HIGHER -- HIRING EMPLOYEES. THIS IS A RECIPE FOR FAILURE. AMERICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A FORWARD THINKING PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AHEAD TO THE NEXT BREAKTHROUGH. UNFORTUNATELY BUSINESSES NOW LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDERS INSTEAD OF AIMING FOR THE HORIZON. THE AMERICAN DREAM IS STILL ALIVE, MR. SPEAKER. JUST ASK THE MEN AND WOMEN POUNDING THE PAVEMENT POLISHING THEIR RESUMES AND LOOKING FOR PAYCHECKS. AMERICANS ARE READY. WE NEED TO MAKE WASHINGTON TEAR DOWN THE ROADBLOCK. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. BASS

    IN STRONG OTTP SIGNIFICANCE TO THE DEBT CEILING PLAN. MY REPUBLICAN…

    IN STRONG OTTP SIGNIFICANCE TO THE DEBT CEILING PLAN. MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT A BILL TO THE FLOOR THAT WOULD INTRODUCE STATUTORY SPENDING CAPS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS WITH MANDATORY AUTOMATIC CUTS ACROSS THE BOARD TO ALL PROGRAMS IF THE CAP IS BREACHED. DISSIZED AS A SOLUTION, THIS CAP WOULD QUICKLY BECOME ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS BUDGETARY PROBLEMS THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER FACED. WHILE SPENDING CAP MIGHT SOUND RESPONSIBLE, IN REALITY CAPS DON'T BALANCE BUDGETS, CAPS TRIGGER MASSIVE UNSUSTAINABLE CUTS. WE TRIED THIS IN CALIFORNIA. THE REPUBLICAN SPENDING CAP JEOPARDIZES OUR ABILITY TO IMPROVE OUR SCHOOLS, REBUILD THE NATION'S CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND INVEST IN R&D. A GLOBAL SPENDING CAP IS NOT A SOLVING FOR OUR BUDGETARY WOES. IT WOULD UNDERMINE OUR ECONOMY WHEN THE -- RECOVERY WHEN THE ECONOMY GETS BETTER. YOU URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO ABANDON THIS HOSTAGE TAKING ON RAISING THE DEBT CEILING AND WORK WITH THE PRESIDENT TO LEAD US FORWARD WITH A RESPONSIBLE DEBT REDUCTION PLAN. BESIDES FORCING SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO IMPORTANT PROGRAMS, A CAP WOULD MAKE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO RESTORE SERVICE THAT IS WOULD CUT OVER THE RECESSION AS OUR ECONOMY RECOVERS, OR STEP IN TO RESPOND TO THE CURRENT, FUTURE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES. THANK YOU.

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    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON THE CONGRESS…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON THE CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THE NATION'S SKYROCKETING DEBT. NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR PARTISAN RHETORIC, RATHER NOW IS THE TIME FOR BOTH SIDES TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK ON FINDING A BOLD, BIPARTISAN PLAN TO ADDRESS THE NATION'S DEBT AND DEBT CEILING. ONE THING WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS DEFAULT IS NOT AN OPTION. WE WILL AND MUST PAY OUR OBLIGATIONS. SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR ENTIRE LIVES WILL RECEIVE A DEVASTATING BLOW IF WASHINGTON CAN'T SETASIDE THEIR DIFFERENCES AND COME TOGETHER ON THIS IMPORTANT DEBATE.

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    MR. DOLD

    WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT 9.2%, DEFAULT IS NOT AN ANSWER. WE NEED TO…

    WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT 9.2%, DEFAULT IS NOT AN ANSWER. WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THE JOB CREATORS OF OUR COUNTRY TO INVEST AND TO HIRE. NOT PARALYZE THEM WITH EVEN MORE ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO WORK ON A BOLD PLAN. THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT COME TOGETHER AND PUT OUR NATION BACK ON A PATH TO FISCAL SANITY. AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE DEPENDING ON US TO GET THE JOB DONE. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. ELLISON

    MR. SPEAKER, WHEN DID THE IDEA OF COMPROMISE GET TO BE A DIRTY WORD? WHEN…

    MR. SPEAKER, WHEN DID THE IDEA OF COMPROMISE GET TO BE A DIRTY WORD? WHEN DID THE IDEA THAT MY WAY OR THE HIGH WAY IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO FORWARD BECOME THE ORDER OF THE DAY? WE ARE AT A STALEMATE BECAUSE WE CANNOT COME TO SOME BASIC IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. NOW, HERE'S THE FACT. ABSOLUTE FACT, IRREFUTABLE. WE DO NOT NEED TO LINK AND TIE DEFICIT REDUCTION TO RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. THEY ARE INDEPENDENT NECESSITIES. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE TIED TO THE OTHER. AND WHEN YOU LINK THE TWO TOGETHER, YOU ARE HOLDING THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES HOSTAGE TO A SET OF BUDGETARY CUTS. THIS IS A MISTAKES. IT IS NOT STATES PERSONSHIP. IT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE ELECTED TO DO. YES, WE HAVE TO REDUCE -- DO DEFICIT REDUCTION, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LINKED TO RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. WE SHOULD RAISE THE DEBT CEILING NOW AND THEN WORK ON DEBT REDUCTION. HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE NEED MORE PEOPLE PAYING TAXES TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. THAT MEANS JOBS. THAT MEANS INFRASTRUCTURE. LET'S GET IT DONE NOW.

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    MR. ELLISON

    A GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AT THE SAME TIME.

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    MR. MCNERNEY

    STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST THE CANAL.…

    STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST THE CANAL. WITHOUT PERMISSION THE STATE IS SENDING ITS EMPLOYEES INTO PRIVATE FARMLAND TO CONDUCT SURVEYS THAT THE STATE NEEDS TO CONDUCT STUDIES TO BUILD A CANAL. DELTA FARMERS ARE NOT STANDING FOR IT. DELTA FARMERS HAVE TAKEN THE CASE TO THE COURTS. I URGE THEM TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE HEALTH OF THE DELTA. A CANAL OR TUNNEL THAT TAKES WLARGE AMOUNTS OF FRESH WATER FROM THE DELTA WOULD DEVASTATE OUR FAMILIES, FARMERS, AND BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITIES. A CANAL WILL CAUSE SALTWATER INTRUSION, DESTROY THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF FARMLAND, AND DEVASTATE OUR WATER QUALITY. IT'S TIME FOR OUR STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES TO RESPECT THE DELTA AND ITS PEOPLE. WE WON'T TOLERATE ANYTHING LESS.

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    MR. CICILLINE

    I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE INTERNATIONAL YOUTH DAY AND HONOR YOUTH LEADERS…

    I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE INTERNATIONAL YOUTH DAY AND HONOR YOUTH LEADERS AS WE CELEBRATE THE INTERNATIONAL YOUTH YEAR. SINCE 1999 WHEN THE U.N. DESIGNATED AUGUST 12 AS A DAY TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE YOUTHS HAVE PLAYED, WE HAVE COMMEMORATED THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUNG PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED IN OUR GLOBAL, REGIONAL, AND NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. IN CELEBRATING THE MANY MILESTONES OF THE YOUTH OF TODAY, WE HONOR THE LIVES AND WORK OF THOSE WHO LEAD THEM. AND SO MANY FANTASTIC YOUTH. ONE SUCH EXAMPLE IS MY FRIEND, FRANKLIN RODRIGUEZ, THE MINISTER OF YOUTH AFFAIRS IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION OF YOUTH WHO HAS JOINED US HERE TODAY IN THE GALLERY. UNDER FRANKLIN'S LEADERSHIP, THE MINISTRY OF YOUTH HAS WORKED TO ENGAGE AND EMPOWER DOMINICAN AMERICAN YOUTH IN RHODE ISLAND BY COLLABORATING WITH THE COLLEGE OF RHODE ISLAND TO PROVIDE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND RECOGNIZING OUTSTANDING LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY. MANY OF RHODE ISLAND'S RESIDENCE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CULTURAL, ECONOMIC, AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STATE IN SO MANY WAYS. FOR THIS REASON I'M HONORED TO RECOGNIZE INTERNATIONAL YOUTH DAY. THE LEADERS OF THE YOUTH MOVEMENT. AND THE CULMINATION OF INTERNATIONAL YOUTH HERE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    TO STRONGLY CONDEMN THE SYRIAN REGIME'S RECENT HOSTILITY TOWARDS BOTH THE…

    TO STRONGLY CONDEMN THE SYRIAN REGIME'S RECENT HOSTILITY TOWARDS BOTH THE UNITED STATES AND SYRIAN PEOPLE. THE COURAGEOUS VISIT BY U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE SITE OF MASSIVE ANTI-REGIME PROTESTS DEMONSTRATES THAT THE UNITED STATES STANDS BY THOSE WHO ADVOCATE FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM.

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    MR. PETERS

    THE VISIT, THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN DAMASCUS EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT…

    THE VISIT, THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN DAMASCUS EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. HAD THE FORCES ACKNOWLEDGED THEIR OBLIGATIONS, THESE RIDERS IN SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT ASSAD WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO APPROACH THE EMBASSY. BY RESPONDING POORLY, ASSAD HAS CONVEYED DISRESPECT TOWARDS THE UNITED STATES. I APPLAUD SECRETARY OF STATE CLINTON'S RECENT TOUGH STANCE TOWARDS ASSAD DECLARING HIS REGIME HAS LOST LEMCY. TIME AND TIME AGAIN ASSAD LIKE HIS FATHER BEFORE HIM HAS TURNED TO ARRESTING, TORTURING, AND KILLING ANYONE WHO WOULD STAND IN THE WAY OF HIS TYRANNY. THEREFORE WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE IN MIND, I CALL ON PRESIDENT ASSAD TO RESIGN AS PRESIDENT.

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA RISE? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    RISE TO COMMEMORATE NATIONAL YOUTH SPORTS WEEK AND WELCOME SEVERAL…

    RISE TO COMMEMORATE NATIONAL YOUTH SPORTS WEEK AND WELCOME SEVERAL EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT ATHLETES JOINING US IN THE GALLERY. A LOCAL LACROSSE STAR ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE. MOMENTS AGO I WAS JOINED BY PAT LAFONTAINE, FORMER REDSKIN, KEN HARVEY, AND YOUTH SPORTS LEADERS AND COACHES TO UNVEIL THE YOUTH SPORTS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA A DRESS PHYSICAL NETH, ACCESS, NUTRITION, AND SAFETY. STUDENT ATHLETES MAKE BETTER GRADES, GET IN LESS TROUBLE, AND LESS LIKELY TO BE OBESE.

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  • 12:26:32 PM

    MR. MCINTYRE

    SPORTS SHAPES THE CHARACTER OF EACH CHILD THOUGH STEPS ON TO THE FIELD.…

    SPORTS SHAPES THE CHARACTER OF EACH CHILD THOUGH STEPS ON TO THE FIELD. STOP OF OUR NATION'S TOP SPORTS PROGRAMS, THE NFL, AND U.S. TENNIS ASSOCIATION AMONG OTHERS ARE SUPPORTING THIS AGENDA. THIS REPRESENTS THE RENEWED COMMITMENT TO OUR NATION'S YOUTH. CHILDREN ARE THE BEST INVESTMENT WE CAN MAKE IN OUR FUTURE. WE SHOULD NEVER BE TOO BUSY TO HELP A CHILD. LET'S CELEBRATE TOGETHER NATIONAL YOUTH SPORTS WEEK. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:26:58 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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    CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE. REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:27:08 PM

    MS. BROWN

    THANK YOU. SATURDAY MORNING AT MIDNIGHT, FOLLOWING 20 PREVIOUS CLEAN…

    THANK YOU. SATURDAY MORNING AT MIDNIGHT, FOLLOWING 20 PREVIOUS CLEAN EXTENSIONS, FUNDS FOR THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION WAS ALLOWED TO EXPIRE. WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? SIMPLE. JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LACKING LEADERSHIP OVER THE DEBT CEILING DEBATE, THEY ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO COMPROMISE TO THE EXTEND FUNDING FOR THE F.A.A. FOR THEM THIS DEBATE IS THEORETICAL. YET FOR THE 4,000 AMERICANS THROUGHOUT THE NATION WHO ARE PAID OUT OF THE F.A.A. TRUST FUND, THEY WILL NOT BE PAID AND TENS OF THOUSANDS WHO ARE AFFECTED BY THE CANCELLATION OF THE AIRPORT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THIS SITUATION IS REAL. FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT INCLUDES OVER 3,000 AIRPORT CONSTRUCTION JOBS LOST AND 27 F.A.A. EMPLOYEE JOBS, 19 IN THE ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. LET ME JUST BE CLEAR. THE REASON THAT THE F.A.A. EXTENSION WAS NOT RENEWED IS BECAUSE THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CHAIR, MR. MICA, INSERTED LANGUAGE INTO THE F.A.A. EXTENSION BILL THAT WOULD END THE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SUBSIDIES TO RURAL AIRPORTS. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THIS HOUSE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RISE? COLORADO.

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  • 12:28:28 PM

    MR. PERLMUTTER

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:28:33 PM

    MR. PERLMUTTER

    KENTUCKY IS A NICE PLACE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I AM FROM COLORADO AND…

    KENTUCKY IS A NICE PLACE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I AM FROM COLORADO AND IN COLORADO JUST LIKE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT IF THEY WORK HARD, IF THEY PLAY BY THE RULES, IF THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE IN HOW THEY CONDUCT THEIR LIVES, THEY ARE GOING TO GET AHEAD. IT'S BEEN VERY TOUGH HERE RECENTLY. WE HAVE HAD A DOWNTURN. WE HAVE ALL THIS UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE OF MY -- I BELIEVE REPUBLICAN BRINKSMANSHIP TO EITHER SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OR MAYBE SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY. PEOPLE WANT TO GET AHEAD. THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL CONTINUE TO INNOVATE, EDUCATE, AND REBUILD ITSELF SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD, LONG LASTING JOBS THAT PROVIDE FOR OUR FAMILIES. THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRATS STAND FOR. WE DON'T STAND FOR ALL THIS BRINKSMANSHIP EVERY DAY. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT OR ARE WE NOT? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN ECONOMY OR ARE WE NOT? THAT'S GOT TO CHANGE. WE GOT TO GET BACK TO REBUILDING THE AMERICAN DREAM W THAT I YIELD BACK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE. EXTEND.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 12:29:45 PM

    MS. SANCHEZ

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE TO EXTEND SOME GREAT CONGRATULATIONS…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE TO EXTEND SOME GREAT CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SANTIAGO CANYON COLLEGE'S, IMAGINE CUP TEAM. EARLIER THIS MONTH THE TEAM ACCOMPLISHED WHAT MANY THOUGHT THEY WOULD NEVER DO. FIRST OF ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE CUTS HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA TO THESE WONDERFUL COLLEGES WE HAVE, THEY WENT AND THEY COMPETED AGAINST 430 OF THE BEST UNIVERSITIES IN THE WORLD. . IN ADDITION TO THAT COMPETITION, THIS COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS A GEM FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SANTIAGO CANYON'S PROVED THAT HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION CAN MAKE IMPOSSIBLE DREAMS COME TRUE. THEY PLACED WITHIN THE TOP 15 UNIVERSITIES IN THE WORLD. SO I AM VERY PROUD OF THESE STUDENTS AND I ADMIRE THEIR AMBITION. THEY ARE TRUE ROLE MODELS FOR ALL OF OUR YOUNG STUDENTS STRIVING TO SUCCEED IN AN EVER-CHANGING, EVER-GLOBAL WORLD. IT IS MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE HAYDEN DONZY, BILL VETTER, GARY KELLY AND DAILY LIZER FOR THEIR REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS. CONGRATULATIONS -- DALE LIZER FOR THEIR REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHES. DEMRATIONS AND I YIELD BACK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    I ASK TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MY REMARKS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. TONKO

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO CONGRATULATE AND CELEBRATE THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO CONGRATULATE AND CELEBRATE THE OCCASION OF ITS 350TH BIRTHDAY. ORIGINALLY INHABITED BY THE MOW HACK TRIBE AND THEN THE DUTCH, THE RICH HISTORY HAS SERVED AS AN INSPIRATION FOR MANY OF AMERICA'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS. IN THE LATE 1800'S EDISON MACHINE WORKS MANUFACTURED THE LIGHT BULB, LATER BECOMING THE HEADQUARTERS OF GENERAL ELECTRIC. THEY ALSO PLAYED HOST TO THE FORMER HOME OF ALCO, THE AMERICAN LOCOMOTIVE COMPANY. THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS PROMPTED THE COMMUNITY TO BE DUBBED THE CITY THAT LIGHTS AND HAULS THE WORLD AND THE ELECTRIC CITY. TODAY SCHENECTADY IS AN IMPORTANT PART CONTINUES TO LEAD THE COUNTRY WITH THE FOCUS ON INGENUITY AND INNOVATION, PROVING WE CAN MAKE IT IN AMERICA. I AM PLEASED TO APPLAUD THE CITY OF SCHENECTADY ON THE RICH HISTORY AND NUMEROUS ACHIEVEMENTS IT HAS ACCRUED AS WE CELEBRATE THE WONDERFUL 350TH BIRTHDAY OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND LOOK FORWARD TO MANY BRIGHT AND BOOMING DAYS TO COME. MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. PURSUANT TO CLAUSELE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. PURSUANT TO CLAUSELE OF RULE 20, THE CHAIR -- PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20 THE CHAIR WILL POSTPONE MOTIONS TO SUSPEND THE RULES. OR ON WHICH THE VOTE IS OBJECTED TO UNDER CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 20. RECORD VOTES ON POSTPONED QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN LATER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND CALL UP THE BILL H.R. 440 AS AMENDED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

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    THE CLERK

    TO PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS…

    TO PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. SMITH, AND THE…

    PURSUANT TO THE RULE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. SMITH, AND THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, -- OR THE GENTLEMAN, MR. BERMAN, FROM CALIFORNIA, WILL EACH CONTROL 20 MINUTES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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  • 12:33:58 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE AND URGE MY…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE AND URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT -- I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 12:34:07 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THANK YOU. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 440,…

    THANK YOU. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT H.R. 440, ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA. THE BILL IS AUTHORED BY MY VERY GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, CONGRESSMAN FRANK WOLF, WHO IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF THE INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT OF 1998 AND OTHER RELIGIOUS FREEDOM LEGISLATION. HE HAS TAKEN THE LEAD IN THIS CONGRESS TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF THOSE WHO ARE PERSECUTED BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH. I WISH TO THANK HIM FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE ON THIS ISSUE, HIS LEGISLATION AND TIRELESS ADVOCACY ON BEHALF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. MR. SPEAKER, THIS BILL ESTABLISHES THE SPECIAL ENVOY POSITION FOR RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN 31 MIDDLE EASTERN AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIAN COUNTRIES. ALMOST ALL OF WHICH HAVE HAD BAD OR VERY BAD RECORDS OF PERSECUTING OR DISADVANTAGING RELIGIOUS MY AUTHORITIES. THE SPECIAL ENVOY WILL REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES IN CONTACTS WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, INTERGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS, U.N. AGENCIES, THE ORGANIZATION FOR SECURITY AND COOPERATION IN EUROPE AND IN CONTEXT WITH INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND MULTILATERAL CONFERENCES. IT WILL ALSO MEET WITH VICTIMS AND TRY TO TAKE THEIR STORY TO OFFENDING GOVERNMENTS TO MITIGATE THE ABUSE. WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, MR. SPEAKER, THAT SPECIAL ENVOYS, INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY FOR SUDAN AND NORTHERN IRELAND, HAVE ACHIEVED UNPARALLELED SUCCESSES OVER THE YEARS IN MITIGATING EXPLOSIVE SITUATIONS AND LITERALLY SAVING LIVES ALL WHILE PURSUING POSITIVE AND DURABLE SOLUTIONS TO WHAT APPEAR TO BE INTRACTABLE AND UNRESOLVABLE PROBLEMS. BUT NOT ALL SPECIAL ENVOYS HAVE BEEN EQUALLY EFFECTIVE. ALMOST EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON WHO THE PRESIDENT APPOINTS TO THE POSITION. SO I WOULD APPEAL TO THE PRESIDENT, WHEN THIS BILL BECOMES LAW, APPOINT SOMEONE WITH THE PASSION, WITH THE ENERGY AND WITH THE EXPERIENCE TO GET THIS JOB DONE AND TO STAND UP AS NEVER BEFORE FOR THESE PERSECUTED MINORITIES. MR. SPEAKER, I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED AND AUM OF US AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL SPEAK ABOUT DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST, BUT I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COPTIC MINORITY IN EGYPT. THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED THE BELL WEATHER OF THE RIGHTS FOR RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AS THE LARGEST AND ONE OF THE OLD OF THE MINORITIES, THEIR SUFFERING AND THEIR ESCALATING AGONY PORTENDS SUFFERING THROUGHOUT THE REGION. AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, THEY ARE SUFFERING. ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK I HELD A HEARING SPECIFICALLY TO HEAR OF THE NEEDS AND EXPERIENCES OF THE COPTICS AND DURING THIS TIME OF TRANSITION, WHAT I HEARD AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HERD ON THE COMMISSION WORRIED US DEEPLY. COPTIC WOMEN AND GIRLS, SOME AS YOUNG AS 14, ARE BEING SYSTEMLY LURED FROM THEIR FAMILIES OR KIDNAPPED OFF THE STREET CORNERS AND FORCED TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGION AND FORCED TO MARRY OUTSIDE OF THEIR COMMUNITY. THESE YOUNG GIRLS FREQUENTLY SUFFER PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE INCLUDING RAPE, BEATINGS, FORCED ISOLATION AND LACK OF PERSONAL FREEDOM BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THEIR SO-CALLED MARRIAGE AND CONVERSION. THE DRUGGING OF VICTIMS APPEARS TO BE COMMONPLACE. ONE STORY THAT EMERGED AT THE HEARING DETAILED THE SITUATION OF A MARRIED WOMAN WHO WAS FORCED TO LEAVE HER COPTIC COMMUNITY AND MARRY A MUSLIM. HER FAMILY WAS PRESENT AT THE OFFICIAL INQUIRY WHICH ARE NO LONGER CONDUCTED, I MIGHT POINT OUT, AND SAID THAT SHE SHOWED SIGNS OF BEING DRUGGED. SHE WAS OUT OF IT. OVER AND OVER SHE REPEATED, I JUST HAD TO DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN. I HAD TO DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN. DR. MICHELLE CLARK, AN INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ANTITRAFFICKING EXPERT, SHE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO LED THE PROTECTION PROJECT AT JOHNS HOPKINS AND WAS DIRECTOR OF THE OSCE TRAFFICKING EFFORTS FOR YEARS, SHE TESTIFIED, SHE AUTHORED A REPORT CALLED THE DISAPPEARANCE, FORCED CONVERSIONS AND FORCED MARRIAGES OF COPTIC CHRISTIAN WOMEN IN EGYPT. SHE TESTIFIED THAT THIS HAPPENS TO THOUSANDS, I REPEAT, THOUSANDS OF COPTIC WOMEN AND GIRLS EACH AND EVERY YEAR. SHE SAID THIS ON FRIDAY. OTHERS ALSO HAVE CONCURRED IN THAT ANALYSIS. DR. CLARK FURTHER TESTIFIED THAT THE MOUNTING EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THE TERM ALLEGED WHICH HAS BEEN USED IN THE COUNTRY ON HUMAN RIGHTS PRACTICES NEEDS TO GO AWAY. IT'S NO LONGER EVEN CLOSE TO BEING ACCURATE. IT'S NOT AN ALLEGATION, IT'S A FACT THAT SHE HERSELF AS A HUMAN RIGHTS INVESTIGATOR HAS HELPED TO ESTABLISH BY DOING ACTUAL INQUIRIES ON THE GROUND IN EGYPT. SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE CRIMINALITY OF ALLEGED FORCED MARRIAGE AND CONVERSIONS IS GENERALLY DISMISSED BY AUTHORITIES HERE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY IN EGYPT. YOUNG WOMEN ARE PRESUMED TO BE WILLING PARTICIPANTS, THE ABDUCTION AND THE DISAPPEARANCE OF COPTIC WOMEN AND GIRLS FOLLOW, AS SHE PUTS IT, CONSISTENT PATTERNS. MEN AND WOMEN ARE USED TO BUILD TRUSTS AND DISPEL RESISTANCE IN YOUNG WOMEN, TARGETED FOR CONVERSION IN MARRIAGE. MOST CASES DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT BEGIN WITH A TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP THAT ULTIMATELY LEADS TO DISAPPEARANCE, ABDUCTION, MARRIAGE TO A MUSLIM MAN AND CONVERSION TO ISLAM. THESE SUPPOSED NEW FRIENDS EXPLOIT THE VULNERABILITY AND THE NAIVETY OF A YOUNG COPTIC WOMAN, ONCE TRUST HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, GIRLS ARE LURED TO AN ISOLATED PLACE, DRUGGED AND KIDNAPPED. OFTEN THEY ARE RAPED, FOLLOWING THE RAPE THE COPTIC WOMEN EXPERIENCE SHAME AND FEAR OF HOW THEIR FAMILIES WILL RESPOND. THEY BECOME MORE WILLING TO STAY WITH THE MUSLIM FRIEND, THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SO ABUSED. AND THEN THEY OFTEN MARRY THEIR RAPISTS BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. SHE TESTIFIED THAT IN MANY CASES YOUNG WOMEN PROTESTED THEIR CONVERSIONS IN ORDER TO SECURE TO ISLAM AND THEY'RE NO LONGER AVAILABLE BUT THAT WENT NOWHERE WITH THOSE THAT THEY PROTESTED TO. LET ME JUST POINT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES, THEN I'LL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME, WHAT IS GOING ON IN EGYPT AND THE ABUSES BEING EXPERIENCED BY CHRISTIANS AND PEOPLE IN IRAN AND ELSEWHERE, WE NEED TO DO MUCH MORE THAN WE HAVE DONE TO COMBAT THIS, TO SPEAK OUT, TO DO GOOD CHRONICLING BUT ALSO ONCE YOU GET THE INFORMATION TO ENSURE THAT IT IS ACTIONABLE AND THAT YOU TAKE IT TO THOSE GOVERNMENTS. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. A SPECIAL ENVOY WOULD BE UNIQUELY EQUIPPED TO TAKE THE CAUSE OF THE BELEAGUERED, SUFFERING RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND TO FIGHT AND TO FIGHT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK FOR THOSE PEOPLE. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 12:41:13 PM

    MR. BERMAN

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND YIELD MYSELF AS…

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. THIS BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION CREATES A SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA. THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE SPECIAL ENVOY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND COMBATING ACTS OF RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE, ENGAGING WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO ADDRESS LAWS THAT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST RELIGIOUS MINORITIES AND WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF RELIGIOUS MINORITY COMMUNITIES ARE BEING ADDRESSED. THIS BILL IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE RELIGIOUS MINORITY COMMUNITIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD, BUT PARTICULARLY IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA, ARE FACING INCREASED ATTACKS AND INCREASED PERSECUTION. FOR EXAMPLE, IN IRAQ, IRAQ USED TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES, INCLUDING CHRISTIANS, SABIANS AND A SMALL NUMBER OF JEWS. THESE GROUPS HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO ESCALATING VIOLENCE, PERSECUTION AND DISCRIMINATION FOR THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND TODAY THEY COMPRISE ONLY ABOUT 3% OF IRAQ'S POPULATION. BY SOME ESTIMATES HALF OF IRAQ'S CHRISTIAN POPULATION HAS FLED SINCE 2003. IN NOVEMBER OF 2010 A PAKISTANI COURT SENTENCED ASIA BIBI, A CHRISTIAN AND MOTHER OF FIVE, TO DEATH UNDER THE COUNTRY'S BLASPHEMY LAW. AND WHAT WAS HER OFFENSE? IN JUNE, 2009, SHE WAS ASKED TO GET WATER FOR HERSELF AND A GROUP OF WOMEN WORKING IN THE FIELDS WITH HER. THE OTHER LABORERS OBJECTED TO A NONMUSLIM TOUCHING THE WATER BOWL AND AN ARGUMENT ENSUED. THAT WOMAN WAS LATER FALSELY ACCUSED OF SPEAKING ILL OF THE PROFIT MUHAMMAD IN ORDER TO SETTLE A PERSONAL SCORE AGAINST HER. ASIA REMAINS IN PRISON AWAITING REVIEW OF HER DEATH SENTENCE. WHEN PUNJAB'S GOVERNOR HAD THE COURAGE TO DEMAND THAT ASIA BE PARDONED, ONE OF HIS OWN BODYGUARDS KILLED HIM. TWO MONTHS LATER WHEN PAKISTAN'S MINISTER FOR MINORITIES CONDEMNED THE BLASPHEMY LAW, MILITANTS EXECUTED HIM IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. IN EGYPT, AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY HAS STATED, 23 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE KILLED IN A BOMBING AT AN ALEXANDRIA CHURCH IN EGYPT ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, JUST LAST MAY, TREEKISTS ATTACKED CHRISTIANS AT A CHURCH IN CAIRO, LEAVING 12 DEAD AND HUNDREDS WOUNDED. WE ARE FORTUNATE -- I WISH THESE WERE ISOLATED CASES BUT I COULD PROVIDE COUNTLESS OTHER EXAMPLES FROM AFGHANISTAN TO INDIA TO SAUDI ARABIA. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT WAS FOUNDED BY RELIGIOUS REFUGEES ON PRINCIPLES OF TOLERANCE. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT RELIGIOUS MINORITIES ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD ENJOY THE FREEDOMS AND PROTECTIONS THEY DESERVE, THE FREEDOMS AND PROTECTIONS ENJOYED BY ALL AMERICANS, APPOINTING THIS SPECIAL ENVOY WILL BE AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THAT DIRECTION AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 12:45:03 PM

    MR. SMITH

    AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON…

    AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON JUSTICE FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, THE AUTHOR OF H.R. 440, FRANK WOLF.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR AS MUCH TIME AS HE MAY CONSUME. .

  • 12:45:20 PM

    MR. WOLF

    THANK CHAIRMAN ROS-LEHTINEN FOR HER SUPPORT AND MR. BERMAN FOR HIS SUPPORT…

    THANK CHAIRMAN ROS-LEHTINEN FOR HER SUPPORT AND MR. BERMAN FOR HIS SUPPORT AND MR. SMITH FOR HIS HELP. I ALSO WANT TO THANK SOME KEY STAFF MEMBERS WHOSE HARD WORK AND EFFORTS ON THE BILL HAVE NOT GONE UNNOTICED. ELISE, YOLAN, STEVE, AND KYLE. WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THEIR HELP. THIS PAST JANUARY IN THE WAKE OF INCREASING VIOLENCE TARGETED TAX AND HEIGHTENED DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SCRIN AND OTHER RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN IRAQ AND EGYPT AND PERFECT MISSING CONCERNS IN AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN AMONG OTHER NATIONS. I INTRODUCED BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION, H.R. 440, WHICH WOULD CONSIDER THE ADMINISTRATION TO APPOINT A SPECIAL ENJOY TO ADVOCATE FOR RELIGION MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS ISSUE A FOREIGN POLICY PRIORITY. SINCE THE INTRODUCTION THIS SLAYINGS HAS GARNERED WIDESPREAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT WITH NEARLY 80 CO-SPONSORS. I WANT TO THANK ANNA ESHOO, THE LEAD DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE, FOR HER WORK ON THIS. ALSO COMPANION LEGISLATION INTRODUCED NOW BY SENATORS ROY BLUNT AND KYLE HEAVEN. THE LEGISLATION HAS ALSO BEEN CHAMPIONED BY A HOST OF FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND DIASPORA OF COMMUNITIES WHO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THE VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES HAVE AN ADVOCATE WITHIN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND AROUND THE WORLD. SURELY BEFORE INTRODUCING THIS LEGISLATION I CHAIRED A HEARING AT THE TOM LANTOS HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ON THE RECENT SPATE OF ATTACKS AND THE ONGOING PERSECUTION OF CRIPS IN IRAQ AND EGYPT. COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE A TESTIMONY THAT THE INCREASING SECTARIAN TENSIONS IN THE TWO COUNTRIES AND NEED FOR GREATER U.S. ATTENTION TO THE PLIGHT OF THE RELIGIOUS MINORITIES. THE HEARINGS WAS HELD PRIOR TO RECREPT EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WHICH IN SOME CASES CREATED A POLITICAL VACUUM THAT LEFT RELIGIOUS MINORITIES PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE. I HEARD THIS FEAR EXPRESSED TIME AND AGAIN DURING A RECENT TRIP TO EGYPT. RELIGIOUS MINORITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE JEWISH, BAHA'IS, ARE ON INCREASING PRESSURE, MANY OF THESE ANCIENT FAITH COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN FORCED TO FLEE THEIR LANDS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR CENTURIES. CONSIDER SOME OF THE FOLLOWING. LAST OCTOBER AT LEAST 70 PEOPLE WERE KILLED DURING A SIEGE ON A CHURCH IN BAGHDAD, MAKING IT THE WORST MASSACRE OF IRAQI CHRISTIANS SINCE 2003. IRAQ'S ONCE VIBRANT CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY POPULATION HAS BEEN REDUCED BY AT LEAST A HALF SINCE 2003. THIS WILL BE TRAGIC UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IT IS ESPECIALLY SO GIVEN THE RICH HERITAGE OF THIS INGIDGE US IN COMMUNITY. -- INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY. MODERN DAY IRAQ ARE MENTIONED WITH GREATER FREQUENCY IN THE BIBLE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY. ABRAHAM, JONAH,ESTER, -- ESTHER, DANIEL, ALL HAIL FROM IRAQ. THE CHRISTIANS OF IRAQ TODAY STILL SPEAK ARAMAIC, THE LANGUAGE JESUS SPOKE. IN AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, COUNTRIES WHERE THE UNITED STATES HAS INVESTED ITS TREASURE AND LIVES OF COUNTLESS BRAVE AMERICAN SOLDIERS, PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS RUN RAMPANT. ON NOVEMBER 7 LAST YEAR, PAKISTANI COURT SAYS THE CHRISTIAN BOTHER WAS KILLED FOR THE CRIME OF BLAST FAMILIARY. HER FATE STILL REMAINS AT THIS MOMENT UNCLEAR. PAKISTAN BLASPHEMY LAWS ARE USED TO VICTIMIZE RELIGIOUS MINORITIES AND MUSLIMS. ERN EARLIER THIS YEAR, PUNJAB'S GOVERNOR WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY HIS OWN BODYGUARD WHO REPORTEDLY TOLD POLICE HE QUOTE KILLED HIM BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT OPPOSITION TO PAKISTAN'S LAWS. IN APRIL, PAKISTAN'S FEDERAL MINISTRY FOR MINORITY AFFAIRS HEROIC MAN OF FAITH WHOSE COURAGEOUS AND OUTSPOKEN LEADERSHIP AGAINST HIS NATION'S DRACONIAN LAW MADE HIM A PRIME TARGET OF EXTREMIST ISLAMIST ELEMENTS IN THE COUNTRY. HE WAS ASSASSINATED. HE WAS THE ONLY CHRISTIAN MEMBER OF THE PAKISTANI PARLIAMENT. IN THE INTERVIEW OF THE "WASHINGTON POST," FRED SAID, QUOTE, URGED AMERICANS NOT TO FORESAKE US OR NOT TO FORGET US. PAKISTAN'S SUFFERING RELIGIOUS MINORITY COMMUNITY. MEMBERS OF THE JEWISH FAITH CONTINUE TO EXPRESS DISCRIMINATION AND PERSECUTION THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THE SPECIAL ENVOY FOR ANTI-SEMITISM, ANNA ROSENTHAL, HAS NOTED THAT THE HOLOCAUST GLORIFICATION IS, QUOTE, ESPECIALLY VIRULENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST MEDIA. IF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND OUR GOVERNMENT FAILS TO SPEAK OUT, THE PROSPECTS FOR RELIGIOUS PLURALISM AND TOLERANCE IN THE REGION ARE BLEAK, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES' SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. AND AGAIN THANK THE LEADERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES FOR MAKING THIS LEGISLATION A PRIORITY. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS BILL WILL OVERWHELMINGLY PASS THE HOUSE AND DEACCEPTED A CLEAR MESSAGE TO BOTH THE PERSECUTORS AND PERSECUTED THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS WITH THOSE WHO MOST BASIC FREEDOM THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP ACCORDING TO THE DICTATES OF CONSCIOUS IS UNDER ASSAULT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I'M VERY PLEASED TO YIELD AT LEAST THREE…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I'M VERY PLEASED TO YIELD AT LEAST THREE MINUTES TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO BROUGHT THIS BILL TO MY ATTENTION AND WHO HAS WORKED WITH CONGRESSMAN WOLF, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND BRING IT TO THIS POINT. DEEPLY COMMITTED ON THIS ISSUE. AND A VERY GREAT MEMBER OF CONGRESS. MY COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. ESHOO.

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    MS. ESHOO

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MR. BERMAN, OUR DISTINGUISHED RANKING…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MR. BERMAN, OUR DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER OF THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, NOT ONLY FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME BUT FOR HIS CONSCIENCE. BECAUSE THAT INDEED IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. AND HIS UNFLAGGING LEADERSHIP ON SO MANY ISSUES. AND YOUR ENDORSEMENT AN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL I THINK BOTH -- SAYS TO THE ENTIRE HOUSE THAT A PERSON STEEPED IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE ISSUES OF THE ENTIRE WORLD IS FOR THIS. I WANT TO PAY TRIBUTE TO MR. WOLF FOR HIS I CREDIBLE ADVOCACY ON THIS ISSUE RELATIVE TO RELIGIOUS MINORITIES FOR SO LONG. IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU TO BRING THIS TO A REALIZATION OF NOT ONLY LEGISLATION BUT TO BRING IT TO THE FLOOR AND I SALUTE YOU. ARE A GENTLEMAN AND I, TOO, ARE A MAN OF GREAT CONSCIENCE. MR. SPEAKER, I THINK TODAY WE ARE HERE ON SOMETHING THAT REALLY DISTINGUISHES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. FROM THE FOUNDING OF OUR NATION, RELIGIOUS FREEDOM HAS BEEN THE PILLAR OF OUR DEMOCRACY. AND IT REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL EXPORTS OF OUR GREAT NATION. AND I THINK HAVING SAID THAT REALLY ESTABLISHES THE FOUNDATION OF WHY WE ARE HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF H.R. 440. THIS BILL, AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, WILL CREATE A SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH ASIA. THE LEGISLATION RESPONDS TO THE VERY URGENT NEEDS OF CHRISTIANS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS MINORITIES WHO ARE UNDER SIEGE. WHEN I SAY THAT, I UNDERSCORE IT. THEY ARE UNDER SIEGE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AGAIN I COMMEND EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY MR. WOLF, WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS EFFORT AND AS A CO-CHAIR OF THE RELIGIOUS MINORITIES COMMUNITY AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF IT, I THANK THEM AS WELL. IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, REPRESENTATIVE WOLF CHAIRED A HEARING TO REVIEW THE VIOLENCE AND THE HARDSHIP FACED BY MIDDLE EASTERN RELIGIOUS MINORITIES. I WAS PRIVILEGED TO TESTIFY THAT DAY ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF MANY PEOPLE, BUT MOST ESPECIALLY THE ASSYRIANS. I AM OF BOTH ASSYRIAN AND ARMENIAN DESCENT AND THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. WOLF SPOKE OF, ARAMAIC, I SPEAK FLUENTLY AND UNDERSTAND VERY WELL. IT IS THE LANGUAGE, AS HE SAID, THAT JESUS SPOKE. THESE ARE THE WORLD'S OLDEST CHRISTIANS. AND THEY ARE QUICKLY DISAPPEARING FROM IRAQ. DURING THIS HEARING, WE ALSO LEARNED OF EGYPT'S COPTIC CHRISTIAN POPULATION WHAT THEY FACE AND THE RENEWED THREATS AND UNACCEPTABLE VIOLENCE IN THAT UNCERTAIN POLITICAL SITUATION. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING, WE AGREED TO PRESS FORWARD WITH THIS -- MAY I ASK FOR TWO MORE MINUTES? MR. BERMAN YIELD THE GENTLELADY TWO MINUTES.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BERMAN

    TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM ILLINOIS, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD, FIGHTS…

    TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM ILLINOIS, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD, FIGHTS AGAINST PERSECUTION AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST RELIGIOUS MINORITIES.

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    MS. SCHAKOWSKY

    YOU. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING TO ME. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R.…

    YOU. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING TO ME. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 440. A BILL TO PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES, CONGRESSMAN FRANK WOLF, AND CONGRESSWOMAN ESHOO, FOR INTRODUCING THIS LEGISLATION AND FOR THEIR TIRELESS LEADERSHIP ON THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. EVIDENT KNOW RELIGIOUS MINORITIES CONTINUE TO FACE A -- ETHNORIDGES MINORITIES CONTINUE TO FACE VIOLENCE IN IRAQ. MY DISTRICT IS HOME TO A LARGE AND VIBRANT ASSYRIAN POPULATION, AND THEY REGULARLY SHARE WITH ME THE DEVASTATING STORIES OF THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS STILL LIVING IN IRAQ WHILE FACING THREATS BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH. IN NOVEMBER, 2010, OVER 1,500 PROTESTERS DEMONSTRATED IN CHICAGO, SENDING A POWERFUL MESSAGE ABOUT THE NEED TO PROTECT IRAQI MINORITIES. BY CREATING A SPECIAL ENVOY SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE RIGHTS OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE REGION, THIS LEGISLATION IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD ENDING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE. TO DATE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR IRAQI ETHNORELIGIOUS MINORITIES. IRAQI CHRISTIANS TO FEAR FOR THEIR PHYSICAL SAFETY AS WELL AS FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND CULTURE. AFTER POPULATION THAT NUMBERED 1 $4 MILLION PEOPLE BEFORE THE AMERICAN LED INVASION, THERE ARE NOW LESS THAN 500,000 IRAQI CHRISTIANS. MR. SPEAKER, H.R. 440 IS A CRITICAL STEP TOWARD ADDRESSING THE THREAT AGAINST IRAQI ETHNORELIGIOUS MINORITIES. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THIS BILL. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. SMITH

    TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS,

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    MR. DOLD

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. SINCE 1947, 49…

    YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. SINCE 1947, 49 MILLION INDUCE IN BANGLADESH HAVE GONE MISSING. AT A RECENT HINDU-AMERICAN FOUNDATION REPORT CONCLUDED THAT THE HINDUS OF BANGLADESH CONTINUE TO BE VICTIMS OF DAILY ACTS OF MURDER, RAPE, KIDNAPPING, TEMPLE DESTRUCTION, AND PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION. . AN AUTHORITY ON HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN BANGLADESH HAS DESCRIBED TO ME ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THE ATROCITIES AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES SUFFERED BY BANGLADESHI'S HINDUS THAT HE HAS VERIFIED. OTHER GROUPS LIKE THE CHRISTIAN ASYRIANS IN IRAQ, THE SUFFERING OF THE PRISONERS IN IRAN AND THE MILLIONS OF OTHERS PROSEEK TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION -- WHO SEEK TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION IN PEACE LOOKS TO US FOR HOPE. THIS BILL ANSWERS THAT CALL. H.R. 440 WILL CREATE A POWERFUL DIPLOMATIC TOOL FOR THE PROMOTION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE VOLATILE REGIONS OF THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS BILL AND I URGE SUPPORT FOR THIS MEANINGFUL LEGISLATION AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BERMAN

    TO YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. PETERS.

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    MR. PETERS

    I'M PLEASED TODAY TO RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 440, A BILL TO ESTABLISH A…

    I'M PLEASED TODAY TO RISE IN SUPPORT OF H.R. 440, A BILL TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL ENVOY TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM -- FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA. AS A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION AND AS A MEMBER OF THE RELIGIOUS MINORITIES OF THE MIDDLE EAST CAUCUS, I STRONGLY SUPPORT ITS PASSAGE. WHILE MANY PARTS OF THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH EAST ASIA ARE PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM, HISTORICALLY THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN HOME TO A DIVERSE GROUP OF ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES. WHETHER IT IS SYRIANS IN IRAQ, BAHI IN IRAN OR THE HINDUS IN PAKISTAN, RELIGIOUS MINORITIES HAVE FOR CENTURIES LIVED AND WORSHIPED ALONGSIDE THEIR MUSLIM COUNTRYMEN AND WOMEN. UNFORTUNATELY INSTABILITY IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS HAD A DISPROPORTIONATELY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RELIGIOUS MINORITIES, THE MOST STRIKING EXAMPLE OF THIS HAS BEEN IN IRAQ WHERE MORE THAN HALF OF THE IRAQI CHRISTIAN POPULATION HAS BEEN FORCED TO FLEE THE COUNTRY SINCE THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN 2003. THOSE WHO HAVE STAYED HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED IN GRUESOME AND RANDOM ACTS OF VIOLENCE, SUCH AS MURDER, RAPE AND ABDUCTION. THIS INCLUDES RELIGIOUS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS LIKE ARCHBISHOP RAHALL WHO HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED AND MURDERED. RELIGIOUS MINORITIES WHO HAVE SUFFERED ATTACKS IN THEIR PLACES OF WORSHIP SUCH AS THE OCTOBER, 2010, MASSACRE AT OUR LADY OF SALVATION CHURCH IN BAGHDAD IN WHICH 58 WORSHIPERS WERE KILLED BY MILITANTS AND EXTREMISTS. WHILE THE END OF THE MUBARAK REGIME IN EJIMENT HAS BROUGHT ABOUT THE PROMISE FOR A -- IN EJIMENT HAS BROUGHT ABOUT THE PROMISE FOR -- IN EGYPT HAS BROUGHT ABOUT PROMISE FOR RELIGIOUS REFORM, COPTIC CHRISTIANS HAVE LIVED PEACEFULLY IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD FOR CENTURIES BUT SADLY IN RECENT MONTHS, COPTIC CHURCHES AND PROTESTERS HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR VIOLENCE. FREEDOM OF RELIGION IS SOMETHING WE TAKE FOR GRANTED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. OUR CITIZENS ARE FREE TO WORSHIP HOWEVER THEY PLEASE, WITHOUT FEAR THAT THEY WILL BE TARGETED FOR VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGIOUS BRIEFS -- BELIEFS. I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT MICHIGAN'S NINTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHICH IS THE HOME TO AN AMAZING DIVERSE POPULATION. WE HAVE JEWISH SYNAGOGUES, ISLAMIC MOSQUES, HINDU TEMPLES AND CHRISTIAN CHURCHES. THIS ZWEVERT A SOURCE OF STRENGTH -- THIS DIVERSITY IS A SOURCE OF STRENGTH IN THIS COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE VERY PROUD OF. MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE RELATIVES IN NEAR EAST OR SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA AND THEY WISH THEY TOO HAD THE SAME FREEDOM TO WORSHIP THAT SO MANY OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO SEE THE UNITED STATES TAKE MORE LEADERSHIP IN PROMOTING RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE OVERSEAS. THAT IS WHY THE LEGISLATION WE ARE DEBATING TODAY IS SO IMPORTANT. IT CREATES A PERMANENT SPECIAL ENVOY THAT WILL WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES ABROAD. THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THE UNITED STATES IS FULL YEN GAUGED TO FIGHT TO PROTECT RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND TO HELP HOLD OUR OWN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THAT SHOULD BE DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE WOLF WHO IS NOT ONLY THE AUTHOR OF THIS LEGISLATION BUT ALSO THE CO-CHAIR OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES OF THE MIDDLE EAST, AS A TIRELESS CHAMPION ON BEHALF OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MY FRIEND, REPRESENTATIVE ESHOO, WHO IS ALSO A CO-CHAIR OF THE CAUCUS AND A TRUE CHAMPION FOR RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

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    MR. PETERS

    I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT THE UNITED STATES…

    I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION SO THAT THE UNITED STATES WILL BE VIGILANT IN PROMOTING RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE AND FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME AND RESERVE THE BALANCE OF…

    SPEAKER, WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR TIME AND RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER --

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    MR. BERMAN

    YES. MR. SPEAKER, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. BERMAN

    SIMPLY TO INDICATE THAT I HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR SPEAKERS, I SIMPLY…

    SIMPLY TO INDICATE THAT I HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR SPEAKERS, I SIMPLY ASK THE HOUSE TO PASS WHAT IS I THINK AN IMPORTANT BILL BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TO READ WHAT'S GOING ON RECENTLY TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A RAPIDLY INCREASING AND SEVERE PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS THOSE COUNTRIES DEEPLY IN TERMS OF THE CONFLICTS AND TENSIONS. I THINK MUCH GOOD CAN COME FROM HAVING SOMEONE FOCUSED ON THESE ISSUES IN THAT REGION AND I URGE AN AYE VOTE AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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    MR. SMITH

    OF OUR MEMBERS WHO MADE HIS WAY HERE, CONGRESSMAN JOE PITTS OF…

    OF OUR MEMBERS WHO MADE HIS WAY HERE, CONGRESSMAN JOE PITTS OF PENNSYLVANIA. I DO YIELD MR. PITTS 1 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. PITTS

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO URGE THIS CHAMBER TO SUPPORT H.R. 440, A…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO URGE THIS CHAMBER TO SUPPORT H.R. 440, A BILL THAT REQUIRES THE PRESIDENT TO APOINT A SPECIAL ENVOY AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO VOGT FOSH -- ADVOCATE FOR RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA AND I COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS MATTER. I PERSONALLY MET WITH THE PRESS PEOPLES FROM -- OPPRESSED PEOPLES FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE, PREDOMINANTLY ONES FROM THE NEAR EAST AND SOUTH ASIA. THE REGION HAS LONG BEEN A HOT BED OF RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION AND LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO AID THESE INNOCENT PRACTITIONERS OF FAITH. REVOLUTION STRIVING FOR DEMOCRACY AND GREATER EXPRESSION IN THE REGION HAVE BEEN MATCHED BY A WAKE OF RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE AND EXTREMISM. AS WE CHERISH OUR RIGHT TO THE FREE EXPRESSION OF RELIGION HERE AT HOME OUR STATE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO REFLECT OUR DEDICATION TO PROTECTING THIS RIGHT IN OUR DIPLOMATIC ENGAGEMENTS ABROAD. RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN EGYPT, IRAQ, IRAN AND OTHER COUNTLESS COUNTRIES ARE LEFT WITHOUT AN ADVOCATE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE GOVERNMENTS. AND H.R. 440 WOULD PROVIDE AN ENVOY THAT COULD ADVOCATE FOR THESE RELIGIOUS MINORITIES AND FOCUS SOLELY ON THEIR PLIGHT WHILE BEING ABLE TO AVOID BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE. AS BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS ARE INCREASINGLY UNDER ASSAULT IN THIS REGION, OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO RAPIDLY RESPOND TO THE NEW CHALLENGES RAPIDLY EMERGING. IT IS OUR NATION'S STRATEGIC INTEREST TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION. I ASK THE HE MEMBERS TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING IT -- I ASK THE MEMBERS TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING IT. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. SMITH

    THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR…

    THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS AND INCLUDE EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL.

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    I YIELD TO --

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    MR. BERMAN

    I'VE GIVEN UP MY TIME.

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    MINUTE. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL…

    MINUTE. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL WHICH I SUPPORT. I WOULD JUST NOTE AND I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN'S LONG HISTORY WITH MINE OF ADVOCATING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN VIETNAM.

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    MS. LOFGREN

    THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP THIS GREAT EFFORT WITH THE SIMILAR EFFORT REALLY…

    THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP THIS GREAT EFFORT WITH THE SIMILAR EFFORT REALLY SPECIFICALLY ORIENTED TOWARD THE RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION THAT'S GOING ON IN VIETNAM AGAINST THE BUDDHISTS, AGAINST THE OTHERS, AGAINST THE CATHOLICS AND MANY OTHERS AND I COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FOR THIS BILL. I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT ISSUE IN THE HOPE THAT IT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER DATE AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND YIELD BACK.

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    MR. SMITH

    YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME TO CLOSE. THE ISSUE OF RELIGIOUS…

    YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME TO CLOSE. THE ISSUE OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOR MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA MUST BE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. FOR FAR TOO LONG RELIGIOUS MINORITIES HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED, EVEN TRIVIALIZED. THEIR RIGHTS AND EVEN THEIR VERY LIVES MUST NOW BE PROTECTED IN THIS TIME OF POLITICAL UPHEAVAL, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MR. WOLF HAD THE FORESIGHT TO DRAFT THIS BILL BEFORE THE SO-CALLED ARAB SPRING. IT WAS NEEDED IN JANUARY, IT'S EVEN MORE NEEDED NOW. ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE SPADE OF CHURCH BOMBINGS AND ESCALATED PERSECUTION AGAINST BELIEVERS. ESPECIALLY WITH KIDNAPPINGS OF THOUSANDS EACH AND EVERY YEAR, THOUSANDS OF COPTIC CHRISTIAN TEENAGE GIRLS WHO ARE THEN FORCED TO CONVERT TO ISLAM AND FORCED TO MARRY, QUOTE, MARRY A MUSLIM MAN. MAKE NO MISTAKE, MR. SPEAKER, THE MIDDLE EAST IS AT A CRITICAL JUNCTURE. WE ARE WITNESSING THE SYSTEMATIC EXTENSION OF CENTURIES OLD RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES. SOUTH CENTRAL ASIA IS ALSO SYSTEMICALLY FAILING ITS RELIGIOUS MINORITIES. THE LATE FEDERAL MINISTER FOR MINISTRY OF MINORITIES IN PAKISTAN GAVE HIS LIFE TO FIGHT FOR THE INJUSTICE AND ATROCITIES SUFFERED BY RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IN PAKISTAN. THE GOVERNMENT OF PACK STAGE HAS SINCE A-- PAKISTAN HAS SINCE ABOLISHED THE MINISTRY OF MINORITIES, UNDER THE FALSE PRETENSION THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER IN RELATION TO THE UNITED STATES. A SPECIAL ENVOY FOR RELIGIOUS MINORITIES SENDS THE RIGHT MESSAGE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND EMPOWERS A DIPLOMATIC WITH THE ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENT AND HOPEFULLY THE PRESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED, THE RIGHTS OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES MATTER AND WE WILL NOT LOOK ASKANCE AT THEIR DESTRUCTION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 01:10:40 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 440 AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, 2/3 OF THOSE VOTING HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES --

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  • 01:10:55 PM

    MR. SMITH

    MR. SPEAKER. QUI THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN REQUESTS THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED.…

    THE GENTLEMAN REQUESTS THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 12-A OF RULE 1, THE HOUSE WILL STAND IN RECESS SUBJECT TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIR. FOR A PERIOD LESS THAN 15 MINUTES.

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  • 01:12:48 PM

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    THAT WITH JOHN LARSON OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS. WELL, WE HOPED TO BRING…

    THAT WITH JOHN LARSON OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS. WELL, WE HOPED TO BRING YOU THAT JOHN LARSON BRIEFING AND

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  • 01:15:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HOUSE IS THE NE CONFIDENT -- IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE…

    HOUSE IS THE NE CONFIDENT -- IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION.

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  • 01:15:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,…

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 01:15:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF THE WHOLE ROSE ON TUESDAY, JULY 26, 2011, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ…

    OF THE WHOLE ROSE ON TUESDAY, JULY 26, 2011, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ THROUGH PAGE 56, LINE 22. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE -- PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. AMENDMENT BY MR. CLARKE OF MICHIGAN, AMENDMENT BY MR. DICKS OF WRA AND AMENDMENT BY MR. TONKO OF NEW YORK AND AMENDMENT BY AMASH OF MICHIGAN AND AMENDMENT BY MR. DODD OF ILLINOIS, AMENDMENT NUMBER 44 BY MR. REID OF NEW YORK, AND AMENDMENT -- REED OF NEW YORK, AND AMENDMENT BY MR. SCALISE OF INDIANA. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO TWO MINUTES THE TIME FOR ANY ELECTRONIC VOTE AFTER THE FIRST VOTE IN THIS SERIES. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. CLARKE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WILL POSTPONE AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAIL BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:16:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 01:39:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 173 AND THE NAYS ARE 251. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.…

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 173 AND THE NAYS ARE 251. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONE AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:40:19 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWOMAN MINUTE VOTE -- TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 01:43:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 223, THE NAYS ARE 201 AND THE AMENDMENT --

  • 01:44:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 224, THE NAYS ARE 202, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.…

    THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 224, THE NAYS ARE 202, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. TONKO, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:44:57 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFER BY MR. TONKO OF NEW YORK.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 01:48:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 184, THE NAYS ARE 238, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.…

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 184, THE NAYS ARE 238, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. AMASH, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:48:31 PM

    THE CLERK

    IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. AMASH OF MICHIGAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 01:52:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 131, THE NAYS 294 WITH ONE PRESENT, THE…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 131, THE NAYS 294 WITH ONE PRESENT, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THESE ARE TWO-MINUTE VOTES AND URGE THAT THEY REMAIN IN THE CHAMBER. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. DOLD, ON WHICH PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:52:37 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. DOLD OF ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 01:55:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 137. THE NAYS ARE 291. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 137. THE NAYS ARE 291. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. REED, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:56:21 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 44 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 44 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. REED OF NEW YORK.

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  • 01:56:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE --

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE --

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    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 237. THE NAYS ARE 189. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 237. THE NAYS ARE 189. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. I'M SORRY, THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS REQUEST FOR RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED AND OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA, MR. SCALISE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 02:01:44 PM

    THE CLERK

    SCALISE OF LOUISIANA AS MODIFIED.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORTS OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORTS OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 02:05:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 215. THE NAYS ARE 213. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 215. THE NAYS ARE 213. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO.

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  • 02:07:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR ASKS MEMBERS TO CLEAR THE AISLE, REMOVE…

    WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR ASKS MEMBERS TO CLEAR THE AISLE, REMOVE CONVERSATIONS SO THE COMMITTEE MAY CONTINUE ITS WORK.

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  • 02:09:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE TO READ.

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    THE CLERK

    YOU CONCHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE, SECTION 116, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE…

    YOU CONCHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE, SECTION 116, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED BY THE SECRETARY TO IMPLEMENT REGULATIONS RELATING TO WATERS LOCATED WITHIN UCONN CHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE.

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  • 02:09:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    MR. DICKS

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 56, BEGINNING ON LINE…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 56, BEGINNING ON LINE 23, STRIKE SECTION 116.

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  • 02:09:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL WITHHOLD. THE CHAIR AGAIN REQUESTS MEMBERS REMOVE AUDIBLE…

    WILL WITHHOLD. THE CHAIR AGAIN REQUESTS MEMBERS REMOVE AUDIBLE CONVERSATION. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 02:10:16 PM

    MR. DICKS

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    MR. DICKS

    WOULD PROHIBIT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FROM CARRYING OUT BOAT INSPECTION…

    WOULD PROHIBIT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FROM CARRYING OUT BOAT INSPECTION OR SAFETY CHECKS ON THE UCONN RIVER WITHIN YUKON CHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE IN ALASKA. THIS PROVISION WAS PUT IN AT THE REQUEST OF MR. YOUNG FROM ALASKA WHO IS UPSET WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE PRESERVE. LAST SUMMER TWO PARK RANGERS ARRESTED A 70-YEAR-OLD FOLLOWING AN ALTERCATION DURING A BOAT SAFETY INSPECTION. THIS CASE IS STILL BEFORE THE COURTS, BUT IT HAS STIRRED CONSIDERABLE LOCAL ANGER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS LEARNED THE TWO RANGERS HAD HANDCUFFED BUT LATER RELEASED ANOTHER LOCAL RESIDENT WHO REFUSED TO SPEAK TO RANGERS WHEN APPROACHED. NOW, IN THIS SITUATION, MR. YOUNG OF ALASKA IS A LONG-TIME FRIEND OF MINE. AND I AM VERY HESITANT TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT TO STRIKE HIS PROVISION, BUT I THINK HE'S ALREADY WON THE CASE. THE PEOPLE THERE -- THE TWO RANGERS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED TO ANOTHER DUTY. AND THEY DO HAVE JURISDICTION. I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN YOUNG, AND I -- THE PARK SERVICE ALWAYS HAS JURISDICTION WITHIN THE NATIONAL PARK. NOW THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA SUGGESTED THAT THE COAST GUARD HAD JURISDICTION, OR THE STATE HAD JURISDICTION, BUT WE HAVE CHECKED THIS CAREFULLY. THE PARK SERVICE HAS JURISDICTION WITHIN THE NATIONAL PARK TO LOOK AT SAFETY ON THE RIVER. AND I THINK IT IS WRONG TO PROHIBIT A SAFETY INSPECTION FOR PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE AT RISK UP THERE. I MEAN I HAVE BEEN TO ALASKA MANY TIMES. THESE RIVERS CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING -- THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR. THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MOVED AROUND IN THESE BOATS ARE SAFE. THE PEOPLE ON THE BOATS ARE SAFE. WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR NOT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER AND DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.

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  • 02:12:50 PM

    MR. MORAN

    NOT AN EARMARK? WHY IS THIS NOT AN EARMARK FOR ONE PARTICULAR NATIONAL…

    NOT AN EARMARK? WHY IS THIS NOT AN EARMARK FOR ONE PARTICULAR NATIONAL PRESERVE? WHILE WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT, THE -- PERHAPS MR. YOUNG CAN COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION, BUT I SHARE THE RANKING MEMBER'S GREAT AFFECTION FOR MR. YOUNG. HE'S A GOOD FRIEND. BUT THIS ALSO CREATES A PRECEDENT. ANY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS ON NATIONAL PRESERVE OR PARKLAND, THEY COULD COME TO THE CONGRESS AND SAY, ALL RIGHT. NO MORE INSPECTIONS. AND WE COULD GET A PROLIFERATION OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS. SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL RESERVES OR PARKS. THE FACT IS THAT IF THE PARK SERVICE HAS JURISDICTION, THEN THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. AND I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING THAT IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BOAT INSPECTIONS, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SOME SERIOUS ACCIDENT IS GOING TO OCCUR AND THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK, WHY IN GOSH NAME WASN'T THE PARK SERVICE THERE TO DO INSPECTIONS? AND IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS WHERE WE SET A PRECEDENT NOT ALLOWING ANY BOAT INSPECTION, SAFETY CHECK. I THINK THIS PRECEDENT --

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  • 02:14:19 PM

    MR. DICKS

    GENTLEMAN YIELD. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. I CAN REMEMBER ONE OF OUR…

    GENTLEMAN YIELD. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. I CAN REMEMBER ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES PUTTING IN A PROVISION IN ONE OF THESE BILLS, I THINK IT WAS IN THE MERCHANT MARINE AND FISHERIES BILL YEARS AGO, ABOUT ONE OF THE BOATS THAT WAS GOING UP TO ALASKA TO FISH IN THESE VERY DANGEROUS WATERS. THIS WASN'T IN THE RIVER. THIS WAS IN THE OCEAN. AND THAT BOAT WENT DOWN. AND THERE WAS MANY QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT WHY THAT MEMBER HAD PROHIBITED BOAT AND SAFETY INSPECTIONS OF THAT BOAT. NOW, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN IS COMPLETELY RIGHT. THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA HAS ALREADY WON. HE HAS ALREADY GOTTEN HIS VIEW ACROSS WITH THE PARK SERVICE. THEY HAVE TAKEN THESE RANGERS AWAY. IT'S TIME TO LEAVE THIS. . AND WE ARE DOING THIS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF MR. YOUNG. AND IF MR. YOUNG WOULD LIKE TO GET UP AND EXPLAIN THIS I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS EXPLANATION. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 02:15:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS EXPIRED.

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    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA RISE?

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    MR. YOUNG

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. YOUNG

    RESPECT, THIS IS ABOUT THE STATE'S -- STATES' RIGHT. THIS DOES NOT…

    RESPECT, THIS IS ABOUT THE STATE'S -- STATES' RIGHT. THIS DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE STATE OF ALASKA, THE COAST GUARD OR ANYTHING OF ENFORCEMENT ON THE YUKON RIVER. IT DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO ENFORCE INSPECTIONS FOR BOATS ON THE RIVER THAT ARE PRIVATE. NOT IN A BUSINESS BUT PRIVATE. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE REALLY I AM VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THIS. THE PARK SERVICE IS FOR THE PEOPLE. IT'S NOT FOR THE PARK SERVICE. AND THE PARK SERVICE OF ALASKA HAS BECOME VERY FRANKLY LIKE I WOULD SAY AN OCCUPIED ARMY OF A FREE TERRITORY. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THIS MAN ARRESTED WAS 70 YEARS OLD WITH HIS WIFE WHO HAPPENED TO BE FROM GERMANY. I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP A LITTLE LATER. AND A COUPLE. 70 YEARS OLD, 70 YEARS OLD, 69 YEARS OLD AND 68 YEARS OLD ON A CRUISE ON THE YUKON RIVER AND A VERY SEA WEATHER WORTHY BOAT, COAST GUARD INSPECTED, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER BOAT ON THE RIVER AND THERE WAS A DISTRESSED SIGNAL GIVEN BY THE PARK SERVICE. BEING A GOOD SAMARITAN THEY WENT OVER THERE TO HELP THEM OUT. THEY FLASHED THEIR BADGES AND SAID, WE'RE THE PARK SERVICE. WE'RE GOING TO BOARD YOUR VESSEL AND INSPECT YOU FOR SAFETY AND REGISTRATION. THINK ABOUT THIS, A DISTRESSED SIGNAL AND MARITIME LAW SAYS YOU WILL NOT BOARD A BOAT ON A MOVING RIVER. YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TO SHORE. AND THE GUY SAID, UP YOURS. I'M GOING TO GO TO SHORE. AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID. AND HE GETS TO SHORE. HE GETS OUT OF THE BOAT. THE RANGERS HAVE ALREADY GOT A SHOTGUN ON A 70-YEAR-OLD MAN. AND CARRYING A PISTOL OUT OF THEIR HOLSTER. AND AS THE GUY WALKED TOWARD HIM, THEY STARTED TO SAY SOMETHING, HE TURNED AROUND AND WALKED UP, THEY TACKLE HIM AND ROLLED HIM IN THE MUD, A 70-YEAR-OLD MAN. THESE ARE TWO YOUNG BUCKS, COWBOYS, AND HANDCUFFED THIS MAN, THIS 70-YEAR-OLD MAN, AND MADE HIM SIT ON THE SHORE AND THEY TOOK HIM A GREAT DISTANCE DOWN THE RIVER TO A VILLAGE AND FLEW HIM TO FAIRBANKS, DROVE HIM TO FAIRBANKS HANDCUFFED, A 70-YEAR-OLD MAN. THIS IS YOUR PARK SERVICE? THIS IS NOT MY PARK SERVICE. WELL, IT DID GO TO TRIAL AND THE JUDGE HASN'T RENDERED A DECISION YET. AND THE FIRST PLACE THE STATE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANY INSPECTION. AND THE SECOND PLACE, THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY AUTHORITY -- THE COAST GUARD DID NOT GIVE THEM AUTHORITY. AND THEY DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT WATER, THAT'S STATE'S WATER. EVERY STATE IN THIS UNION, IT'S THE STATE'S WATER. TO HAVE THE PARK SERVICE ACT LIKE THAT IS DEAD WRONG. SO I'M ASKING TO YOU SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SHOULD BE ADOPTED BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTING LIKE OCCUPIERS. THE LADY I BROUGHT UP WAS FROM GERMANY. DURING THE TRIAL THEY ASKED HER, THE PROSECUTOR, DID YOU EVER HAVE A GUN POINTED AT YOU AND SHE SAID, YES, BY THE S.S. TROOPS. NOW, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA. A 70-YEAR-OLD LADY AND HAVE THEM POINT A SHOTGUN AT HER? NOW, THAT'S WRONG. WHY YOU SAY IT SETS A PRECEDENCE, YES, IT SETS A PRECEDENT. IT'S THE STATE'S WATER. WE SHOULD LEAVE THIS IN THE BILL. I SAY VOTE DOWN THE AMENDMENT. THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE PEOPLE. KEEP THINKING ABOUT THESE AGENCIES. THESE AGENCIES AREN'T GOD. THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE PEOPLE. THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABUSED BY AGENCIES AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR THEM. BY THE WAY, THE ONE RANGER HAD A RECORD AS LONG -- LONGER THAN MY ARM AND THEY HIRED HIM TO ENFORCE THE SO-CALLED PARK'S REGULATIONS. SO I'M ASKING TO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS A MOMENT. IT'S THE WRONG AMENDMENT. THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S TIME WE START TELLING THESE AGENCIES, THINK OF THE PEOPLE. NOT THE PARKS THEMSELVES. THIS IS ABOUT PARKS AND PARTNERS AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT PARTNERS IN ALASKA. THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO EDUCATE ALASKANS ABOUT ALASKA. THIS IS A 70-YEAR-OLD MAN WHO HAS BEEN LIVING THERE ALL HIS LIFE AND TO DO THAT IS DEAD WRONG. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:20:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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    MR. MORAN

    RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 02:20:16 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, IN RESPONSE TO MY VERY GOOD FRIEND , IT APPEARS THAT THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, IN RESPONSE TO MY VERY GOOD FRIEND , IT APPEARS THAT THE CONDUCT -- IT APPEARS THAT CONDUCT OF THESE PARK RANGERS WAS WRONG, SO THEY HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED, AND I'M SURE THAT WHOEVER HAS RESPONSIBILITY NOW IN THAT JURISDICTION HAS BEEN TOLD, YOU DON'T DO THIS. NOW, THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IF NOT ALL OVER THE WORLD. CLEARLY SOME PEOPLE IN AUTHORITY ABUSE THEIR POWER. IT HAPPENS WITH LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS. IT HAPPENS TO STATE POLICE. IT HAPPENS WITH OTHER PEOPLE WITH A BADGE, AND SO THEY GET DISCIPLINED. SOMETIMES THEY GET TAKEN TO COURT. BUT NORMALLY WE DON'T CHANGE NATIONAL POLICY TO DEAL WITH MISCONDUCT, IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, ON THE PART OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. WE DON'T CHANGE NATIONAL POLICY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. LET ME PUT INTO THIS DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH NATIONAL PARK LAND TO GET TO THAT STATE WATER. WELL, THEY DO, AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE RUNS THE CONCESSIONS SO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE DOES HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE VEHICLES ON THIS WATER. THEY DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONTRABAND STUFF COMING. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE VESSEL. NOW, MY GUESS IS -- I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE -- MY GUESS IT'S VERY SELDOM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AND BOARD ANY BOAT. THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME REASON, I'M SURE AFTER THIS INCIDENT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL REASON. IT'S SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL REASON TO STOP AND BOARD A BOAT AND WE HAVE PRECLUDED THEIR ABILITY TO CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENCE. WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT IF THERE WAS MISCONDUCT THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED. WE'RE SURE THAT THE INSTRUCTIONS BEING GIVEN BY SUPERIORS HAVE CHANGED NOW TO ENSURE THAT THIS INCIDENT IS NEVER REPEATED, BUT WE REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE SOLUTION IS TO CHANGE NATIONAL POLICY WHICH WOULD HAVE REPERCUSSIONS FOR OTHER NATIONAL PRESERVES AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND IT MIGHT VERY SERIOUSLY HAVE RAMIFICATIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE CAN'T TELL RIGHT NOW, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUE.

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  • 02:22:55 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WITH MY FRIEND FROM ALASKA. YOU HAVE MADE YOUR CASE. YOU HAVE GOTTEN THE…

    WITH MY FRIEND FROM ALASKA. YOU HAVE MADE YOUR CASE. YOU HAVE GOTTEN THE RELIEF FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THE RANGERS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED. ACCEPT VICTORY AND DON'T GIVE US AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD UNDERMINE BOAT SAFETY INSPECTIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES. HE SAYS, WHY DID WE READ THIS -- LET ME READ THIS AMENDMENT. NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED BY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR TO ENFORCE REGULATIONS CONCERNING BOATING AND OTHER ACTIVITY ON OR RELATING TO WATERS LOCATED WITHIN THE UKON CHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE EXCEPT JURISDICTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES PURSUANT TO SECTION 38 OR DA-DA-DA-DA.

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  • 02:23:43 PM

    MR. MORAN

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. IT'S CLEAR IT'S NOT JUST THE WATERWAY. IT INCLUDES ALL…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. IT'S CLEAR IT'S NOT JUST THE WATERWAY. IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE LAND. THE ENTIRE PARK OF THIS NATIONAL RESERVE, THEY CAN'T CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.

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  • 02:23:57 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THIS IS THE…

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THIS IS THE STATE'S WATER. IT IS NOT THE --

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  • 02:24:07 PM

    MR. DICKS

    IN A NATIONAL PARK.

  • 02:24:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WOULD MY VERY GOOD FRIEND FROM ALASKA LIKE ME TO YIELD HIM A FEW SECONDS?

  • 02:24:21 PM

    MR. MORAN

    ME TO YIELD HIM A FEW SECONDS?

  • 02:24:27 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    LOVE TO HAVE YOU YIELD TO ME. AGAIN, THIS IS THE YUKON CHARLIE THAT WAS…

    LOVE TO HAVE YOU YIELD TO ME. AGAIN, THIS IS THE YUKON CHARLIE THAT WAS USED BY THE GOLD RUSH PEOPLE HAS BEEN USED BY ALASKANS ALL THESE YEARS WITHOUT THE PARK SERVICE. THE STATE HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE WATERS. THE COAST GUARD HAS AUTHORITY FOR INSPECTION. THE STATE HAS THE AUTHORITY FOR REGISTRATION. NOT THE PARK SERVICE. THIS IS A NAVIGATABLE WATER. NOW, THE LAND IS ON ONE SIDE. BUT THIS IS OUR WATER. MAY I JUST CONTINUE FOR ONE THING? I HAVE NOT WON BECAUSE I MAY WON A TEMPORARY BATTLE, BUT THERE CAN BE ANOTHER PARK RANGER, RANGERS, THERE CAN BE ANOTHER PARK SUPERINTENDENT THAT DOESN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE. WHERE ARE WE?

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  • 02:25:13 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IT SAYS YUKON. THE ONLY NAVIGATABLE WATER IS YUKON.

  • 02:25:18 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    IT SAYS YUKON. THE ONLY NAVIGATABLE WATER IS YUKON.

  • 02:25:29 PM

    MR. DICKS

    RELATING TO WATERS LOCATED WITHIN THE YUKON CHARLIE NATIONAL RESERVE. THE…

    RELATING TO WATERS LOCATED WITHIN THE YUKON CHARLIE NATIONAL RESERVE. THE PARK SERVICE HAS -- WHEN YOU HAVE --

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  • 02:25:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAS EXPIRED.

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    CONSENT THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAVE TWO MINUTES SO HE CAN YIELD TO ME?

  • 02:25:53 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE.

  • 02:25:56 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I APPRECIATE MY FRIEND FOR YIELDING AND APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I APPRECIATE MY FRIEND FOR YIELDING AND APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON FOR READING THE SECTION. HE LEFT OUT THE LAST SENTENCE. THIS IS A PERTINENT PART AND THIS IS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA'S POINT. IT GOES TO INSPECTION. IT GOES ON, AND I'LL QUOTE OUT THE LAST SENTENCE. IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE AUTHORITY OF THE COAST GUARD TO REGULATE THE USE OF WATERS SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES WITHIN THE YUKON CHARLIE RESERVE, END OF QUOTE. NOW, I WOULD INTERPRET THAT IN SAYING THE SAFETY PART OF THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA CERTAINLY IS RIGHT ON THE PART THAT THESE ARE STATE WATERS. I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:26:38 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I WAS HAPPY TO YIELD. I'D RESPOND TO THE GENTLEMAN. THE COAST GUARD REALLY…

    I WAS HAPPY TO YIELD. I'D RESPOND TO THE GENTLEMAN. THE COAST GUARD REALLY DOESN'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON RIVERS. IT'S NORMALLY COASTAL WATERS. IT MAY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY BUT THE FACT IS THE COAST GUARD NORMALLY DOESN'T APPLY MUCH IN THE WAY OF RESOURCES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW, HOW LARGE IS THIS NATIONAL PRESERVE, BECAUSE I EXPECT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL NATIONAL PRESERVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. DO WE KNOW?

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  • 02:27:12 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 02:27:14 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IT'S MY TIME. I YIELD TO MR. -- IT'S MY TIME, MR. YOUNG. I'LL YIELD.

  • 02:27:26 PM

    MR. DICKS

    PARKS SERVICE DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION. HOW DOES THE COAST GUARD HAVE…

    PARKS SERVICE DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTION. HOW DOES THE COAST GUARD HAVE JURISDICTION? THAT'S ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCY. THE GENTLEMAN CHANGED HIS STORY. HE SAID THE STATE HAD AUTHORITY. I WOULD WONDER WHO IN THE HELL HAS AUTHORITY.

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  • 02:27:44 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    YOU ARE FROM WASHINGTON AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO HAS AUTHORITY.

  • 02:27:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE MEMBERS USE THE PROPER YIELDING FOR TIME. THE TIME IS CONTROLLED BY…

    THE MEMBERS USE THE PROPER YIELDING FOR TIME. THE TIME IS CONTROLLED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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  • 02:27:56 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I VERY MUCH THANK THE CHAIR OF THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR CLARIFYING WHO HAS…

    I VERY MUCH THANK THE CHAIR OF THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR CLARIFYING WHO HAS THE TIME. NOW, I THINK A NUMBER OF VERY GOOD QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PRECEDENT. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE WHO USE THIS NATIONAL RESERVE. WE CAN UNDERSTAND MR. YOUNG'S ANGST BUT NEVERTHELESS WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO ESTABLISH PRECEDENT THAT MAY COME BACK TO HAUNT US.

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  • 02:28:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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  • 02:28:31 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 02:28:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 02:28:37 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE STAFF CLEARLY REVEREND THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE STAFF CLEARLY REVEREND THE LANGUAGE HERE AND THE A-- CLEARLY RESEARCHED THE LANGUAGE HERE AND THE APPLICABLE LAWS. THAT'S WHAT WE DO WHEN WE PUT THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE. WITH THAT I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA.

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  • 02:28:51 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    HAS AUTHORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT ON ALL WATERS, INCLUDING ALL RIVERS. IN…

    HAS AUTHORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT ON ALL WATERS, INCLUDING ALL RIVERS. IN FACT, SOMETIMES THE COAST GUARD IS TOO ACTIVE ON THE RIVERS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I'VE BEEN ON THAT RIVER. I'M A TUG BOAT CAPTAIN, LICENSED MARINER. MY BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO THIS IS THE EXCESSIVE USE OF THE PARK SERVICE. NOW YOU SAY I WON THAT BATTLE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THAT DOESN'T KEEP THEM FROM TRYING TO ENFORCE THIS AGAIN OVER THE STATE'S OBJECTIONS. THE STATE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO REGISTER OR INSPECT THE BOAT. NOW, REMEMBER THIS. HERE'S TWO GUYS GIVING A DISTRESS SIGNAL AND A GOOD CITIZEN TRIED TO HELP THEM AND THEY FLASHED THE BADGE. THIS SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT TO ME. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. AND I GET VERY FRUSTRATED. LEAVE THIS IN THE BILL, LET THE PARK SERVICE KNOW THEY KNOW -- NO LONGER CAN TROD OVER THE PEOPLE OF ALASKA BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY ARE THE PARK SERVICE. YOU BETTER LISTEN TO US. WHEN THIS MAN WAS BREAKING NO LAW. THIS IS WRONG. NOW YOU SAY I'VE WON THE BATTLE. MAYBE I HAVE. BUT IT TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT TO DO IT BUT I HAVEN'T WON THE WAR AND THEY WILL COME BACK. SO I'M SUGGESTING IT STAY IN THE BILL AS IT IS. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 02:30:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS RISE? THE GENTLEMAN MOVES TO STRIKE…

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS RISE? THE GENTLEMAN MOVES TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 02:30:25 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HUGE 2.5 MILLION ACRE…

    JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HUGE 2.5 MILLION ACRE PARK. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A 158-MILE LONG RIVER. IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARK. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE AREA. I WOULD BE GLAD TO YIELD.

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  • 02:30:51 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    2,800 MILES LONG.

  • 02:30:57 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    RIVER, 2,800 MILES LONG. THIRD LARGEST RIVER IN THE UNITED STATES EVER…

    RIVER, 2,800 MILES LONG. THIRD LARGEST RIVER IN THE UNITED STATES EVER AMERICA.

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  • 02:31:03 PM

    MR. DICKS

    CARRIES TRANSPORTATION.

  • 02:31:06 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. THE 158-MILE AREA IS THE PORTION INSIDE OF THE PARK.…

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  • 02:34:49 PM

    MR. DICKS

    ABOUT SAFETY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INSPECTING BOATS THAT MAY BE UNSAFE.…

    ABOUT SAFETY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INSPECTING BOATS THAT MAY BE UNSAFE. AND I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD NOT DEAL WITH IN A -- AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD WAY HERE IN THIS BILL. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA HAS MADE HIS POINT. I THINK HE SHOULD WITHDRAW -- I THINK HE SHOULD -- SUPPORT OUR AMENDMENT. TO STRIKE THIS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE OF ALASKA ARE PROTECTED. I KNOW HE CARES ABOUT THEM. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:35:24 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    OF THIS AMENDMENT COULD BE BECAUSE THE COAST RELIES ON THE PARK SERVICE IS…

    OF THIS AMENDMENT COULD BE BECAUSE THE COAST RELIES ON THE PARK SERVICE IS WE COULD WIND UP IN AN ENTIRE AREA WITHOUT ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE COAST GUARD DOES NOT REACH THAT AREA. THE PARK SERVICE IS THERE. IF YOU TAKE OUT THE PARK SERVICE IT BECOMES MUCH MORE OF A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR EVERYONE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE GENTLEMAN INTENDS.

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  • 02:35:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 02:35:48 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA --

  • 02:37:25 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

  • 02:38:19 PM

    MR. YOUNG

    BIG AS TEXAS. KEEP IN MIND, COAST GUARD HAS THE AUTHORITY. AS SOON AS THIS…

    BIG AS TEXAS. KEEP IN MIND, COAST GUARD HAS THE AUTHORITY. AS SOON AS THIS HAPPENED I CALLED THE COAST GUARD. THE PARK SERVICE SAID THE COAST GUARD GRANTED THEM THAT AUTHORITY. THE COAST GUARD, NO WAY. THAT'S OUR AUTHORITY. THEN SECONDLY, THEY SAID REGISTRATION. THE STATE HAS A RIGHT TO REGISTER A BOAT. THAT'S THE SAME THING IN YOUR STATE. NOT ANY FEDERAL AGENCY. AS FAR AS 135 MILES, REMEMBER THIS IS THE HIGHWAY OF ALASKA. THE HIGHWAY OF ALASKA HAS BEEN USED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. AND WE GOT ALONG VERY WELL WITHOUT ANY PARK SERVICE ALL THESE YEARS. ALL THESE YEARS. BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A DROWNING BECAUSE OF A BOAT ACCIDENT ON THAT SECTION OF THE RIVER IN HISTORY. WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WANT ME TO PROTECT THE ALASKAN PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIKE THIS, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I VERY FRANKLY I THINK YOU ARE MEDDLING. YOU ARE MEDDLING IN SOMETHING THE STATE HAS A GREAT INTEREST IN. THAT HAS SAID BEFORE, THIS IS OUR WATERWAY, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO TRANSVERSE IT FROM CANADA THROUGH ALASKA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BERING SEA. TO HAVE ANY AGENCY THAT THE TAXPAYER PAYS FOR -- BY THE WAY IT HAD AN ILLEGAL BOAT. THE BOAT THEY WERE DRIVING WAS OVERPOWDERED ACCORDING TO THE COAST GUARD. SO JUST LEAVE THIS IN THE BILL AS IT SHOULD. I'M ASKING ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO THINK ABOUT THIS VERY CAREFULLY. DO YOU WANT AN AGENCY THAT DOES NOT RESPECT THE RIGHT OF INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT? DOES NOT RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF HISTORY? I DON'T THINK YOU DO. SO I'M ASKING THE AMENDMENT TO BE DEFEATED AND ASK THEM -- MY COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A BIG ISSUE IN MY STATE. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO MY ME BUT MY PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ALASKA THAT HAVE BEEN USING THIS RIVER FOR CENTURIES. LET'S LEAVE IT IN THE BILL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 02:40:08 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

  • 02:40:11 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AREA WHO MAKES MISTAKES WE DON'T GET RID OF LAW…

    THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AREA WHO MAKES MISTAKES WE DON'T GET RID OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T SAY WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO PROTECT PEOPLE. THE OTHER PEOPLE. WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS.

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  • 02:40:24 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    TIME. WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE COAST GUARD WILL…

    TIME. WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE COAST GUARD WILL STILL DO THE SAFETY INSPECTIONS WHICH THEY ARE STATUTORILY AUTHORIZED TO DO. THE PARK SERVICE IS NOT STATUTORILY AUTHORIZED TO DO. THEY SAY THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN THAT AUTHORITY FROM THE COAST GUARD. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. SO WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF ANYTHING. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS CLEARING UP A JURISDICTIONAL PROBLEM HERE.

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  • 02:40:49 PM

    MR. DICKS

  • 02:41:09 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THIS IS A MISUNDERSTANDING.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR WOULD AGAIN REMIND ALL MEMBERS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR WOULD AGAIN REMIND ALL MEMBERS THEY SHOULD DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR NOT EACH OTHER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS RISE? THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 02:41:25 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    IS NO DOUBT, MR. YOUNG, YOU ARE THE RENOWNED EXPERT ON ALASKA. SO I DON'T…

    IS NO DOUBT, MR. YOUNG, YOU ARE THE RENOWNED EXPERT ON ALASKA. SO I DON'T RISE TO COUNTER THAT. IN FACT I COME FROM THE OTHER OPEN WILD STATE THAT LIKES THEIR OWN SELF-DETERMINATION AND THEY JUST ASSOCIATED YOU WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. I REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT THERE'S WATER IN VIRGINIA, THERE'S WATER IN MASSACHUSETTS, AND THERE'S WATER ALL ALONG. BUT I RISE TO SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT BECAUSE FRANKLY THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO THE VERY IMPORTANT COAST GUARD, THEY ARE SHORT ON MONEY. FRANKLY I WANT THE COAST GUARD TO BE IN THE PORT OF HOUSTON DOING THEIR JOB AS RELATES TO PROTECTING THE COAST LINE OF AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS. THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. THEY ARE NOT IN ESSENCE AN AGENCY THAT CAN JUST EXPAND ITS RESOURCES. I WOULD JUST RAISE THE QUESTION, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON WAS VERY ENGAGING AND COOPERATIVE BY SAYING HOW CAN WE WORK THIS OUT? MY INTERPRETATION IS IN OPPOSING THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE BILL AND SUPPORTING MR. DICKS IS THAT WE HAVE IN ESSENCE A LEGISLATIVE EARMARK. AND THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US CAN RISE UP AND TRY TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS IN THAT WAY. I'D LIKE TO GET BACK TO REGULAR ORDER. AND I CITE FOR ALL OF YOU JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. WE'VE GOT A LEGISLATIVE EARMARK WHEN ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES, REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES, HAVE DECIDED TO SHUT DOWN THE F.A.A. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. AND LOSS IN THE DOING OF THAT, 2.5 BILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, 87,000 AMERICAN CONSTRUCTION JOBS, 3,000 F.A.A. AVIATION ENGINEERS FURLOUGHED. SAFETY ANALYSTS, CAREER PROFESSIONALS IN 35 STATES. IN MY OWN CITY OF HOUSTON. I WANT TO GET ON THE FLOOR AND PUT AN AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR TO GET THAT MEMBER OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF STOPPING THE F.A.A. FROM DOING ITS WORK. $200 MILLION PER WEEK IS BEING LOST. NOBODY IS SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO NOT DOING REGULAR ORDER BY FOOLING AROUND WITH THE DEBT CEILING. NOBODY CAN COME TOGETHER AND ACT LIKE ADULTS AND SAY LET'S JUST RAISE THE DEBT CEILING SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN GO ON WITH THEIR BUSINESS. NOW WE GOT A MEMBER THAT SAYS, MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. AND SHUTTING DOWN THE F.A.A. YOU CAN'T RUN THE GOVERNMENT LIKE THIS. AND I THINK THE MESSAGE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT IS ON THE FLOOR IS NOT THAT WE DON'T RESPECT MEMBERS' PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR STATES, IT'S JUST WE CAN'T GO WILLY-NILLY AND CHANGE LAWS JUST FOR ISOLATED INCIDENCES. I APOLOGIZE TO MR. WILD. YOU CAN SEE I'M PRETTY AGITATED ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE QUIETLY ALLOWING THE F.A.A. NOT TO WORK. AND AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, WHO KNOWS WHAT DANGER IS AROUND BECAUSE THE F.A.A.'S NOT FUNCTIONING? WHO KNOWS WHAT JEOPARDY WE ARE PUTTING FOR SENIORS AND STUDENTS AND FAMILIES AND PEOPLE TRYING TO BUY A HOME BECAUSE WE ARE FOOLING AROUND WITH THE DEBT CEILING? SO I JUST THINK WE ARE IN A PATTERN HERE. DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. AND FORGET THE HECK OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FORGET THAT WE LIVE IN A BIG COUNTRY AND WE SHOULD BE FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE. AND IF WE NEED SAFETY ON OUR WATERWAYS, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO WORK THROUGH OUR ISSUES. I DON'T LIKE THE WAY INDIVIDUALS WERE HANDLED. I AGREE ON THAT ISSUE. BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE ARE HANDING OUR BUSINESS WITH THE DEBT CEILING WHEN WE ARE LITERALLY PUTTING OURSELVES ON THE JEOPARDY. AND I ENCOURAGE THE PRESIDENT TO DO ANYTHING HE NEEDS TO DO TO SAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS OF AMERICA, AND I HOPE HE STANDS UP AND RECOGNIZES THIS IS A RIDICULOUS POSITION TO BE IN WHEN THE F.A.A. IS NOT EVEN FUNCTIONING. AND MY INTERCONTINENTAL AIRPORT CAN'T EVEN CONTINUE TO DO CONSTRUCTION WORK AND THE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK ARE THROWN OUT ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WORK BECAUSE ONE LONE MEMBER, ONCE AGAIN UP AND TALK ABOUT THE F.A.A. AND FOOLISHNESS ABOUT NOT PROTECTING SMALL AIRPORTS AND NOT ALLOWING OUR AIRPORT EMPLOYEES OR OUR EMPLOYEES SUCH AS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS AND OTHERS TO BE ABLE TO CONFER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF WORK ISSUES. I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION, MR. YOUNG. I KNOW YOU KNOW ALL OF THE ISSUES ABOUT THAT. . WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER FROM WHERE I COME FROM. I THINK MR. DICKS HAS PUT TOGETHER A PERFECT QUESTION AND ANSWER TO THE IDEA OF WHETHER OR NOT YOUR AMENDMENT OR LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE A FAR-REACHING IMPACT BEYOND THE BEHAVIOR OF TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT I UNDERSTAND MAY NOT BE HERE. LET'S LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY. LET'S COME TOGETHER AS ADULTS REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THE TIME. IS THERE ANY TIME THAT YOU WANT? AND I'M HAPPY TO YIELD BACK BY ASKING FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT FOR MR. DICKS' AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 02:46:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME OF THE GENTLELADY HAS EXPIRED. MEMBERS ARE AGAIN REMINDED TO DIRECT…

    TIME OF THE GENTLELADY HAS EXPIRED. MEMBERS ARE AGAIN REMINDED TO DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR, NOT TO EACH OTHER. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA, MR. YOUNG. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE GENTLEMAN IS EXACTLY RIGHT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 02:47:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS, WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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  • 02:47:26 PM

    MR. PASCRELL

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND I PROMISE TO STICK TO THE SUBJECT.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. PASCRELL

    I RISE TODAY IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL, 2584, A BILL…

    I RISE TODAY IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE UNDERLYING BILL, 2584, A BILL WHICH IRRESPONSIBLY SLASHES FUNDING FOR MANY OF OUR NATION'S MOST IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS. IF IT'S PASSED, THE OVERALL LEGISLATION WOULD CAUSE GRAVE HARM TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND ADDITIONAL REMOVING PROTECTIONS FOR OUR WILDLIFE AND ENVIRONMENT. I'LL TAKE A FEW ISSUES AT HAND. CLEAN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. ENSURING OUR FAMILIES HAVE CLEAN WATER IS UNDER ATTACK IN THIS BILL. IT CUTS 55%, ALMOST $1 BILLION FROM THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND. THIS PROGRAM ENABLES THE STATES TO INVEST IN MUCH-NEEDED REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO AGING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. MR. CHAIRMAN, AN ESTIMATED 25% OF ALL TREATED WATER IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS LOST DUE TO LEAKAGE FROM WATER SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN DISREPAIR. 25% OF THE WATER THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TREATED. WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY. AND SUPPOSEDLY AN AUSTERE CONGRESS. WE'RE FACING A $500 BILLION FUNDING GAP TO BRING AGING WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE BACK TO PAR. OUR PIPES ARE LITERALLY CRUMBLING BENEATH OUR FEET, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND UNTIL THE NEXT MAJOR WATER MAIN BREAK DISRUPTS OUR LIVES IN OUR TOWNS. THIS INVESTMENT IN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS SINCE EVERY $1 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT SUPPORTS 28,500 JOBS. SECOND ISSUE, AIR QUALITY. THE BILL THAT'S BEFORE US TAKES US FURTHER BACKWARDS TO AN ERA WHERE POLLUTERS POSITIONED OUR ATMOSPHERE AT WILL BY PREVENTING E.P.A. FROM IMPLEMENTING TWO IMPORTANT AIR QUALITY RULES -- THE POWER PLANT AIR TOXICS RULES AND THE TRANSPORT RULE -- IRRESPONSIBLY PUTTING THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES AT RISK. WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS INSTEAD OF FRONTWARDS. IT IMPACTS THE URBAN AREAS IN MY DISTRICT SUCH AS PATERSON, NEW JERSEY, WHERE WE SEE MUCH HIGHER INCIDENTS OF ASTHMA. IT'S TERRIBLE TO GO TO OUR HOSPITALS. IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. NOT JUST IN PATERSON, NEW JERSEY, BUT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. OTHERRESS PICTURE TEAR AILMENTS DUE TO THE CONNER IS TRATION OF HARMFUL POLLUTANTS. THESE POLLUTANTS CAN BECOME LODGED IN THE LUNGS AND INTERFERE WITH THE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM. THIS NEEDS TO BE CONTROLLED. AND THE PARK SYSTEM ITSELF, IT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE LAST DEBATE, THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD CRIPPLE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. THIS SERVICE TAKES CARE OF OUR PARKS. WE FOUGHT FOR THIS. ALL OF US. DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, AND WHATEVER STATE IT WAS IN THIS UNION. THEY WANT TO SLASH THIS BY $409 MILLION FOR THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. OUR NATIONAL PARKS ARE VISITED BY 275 MILLION PEOPLE EACH YEAR, COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO APPRECIATE OUR NATION'S NATURAL AND HISTORIC WONDERS. WE ARE AT WORK ON THE HISTORIC PARK IN MY OWN HOME CITY OF PATTERSON. IT'S AN HISTORIC ACCOMPLISHMENT AS THE FIRST INDUSTRIALIZED CITY OF THE UNITED STATES. THE INVESTMENT WE MAKE IN OUR PARKS PAYS FOR ITSELF MANY TIMES OVER. IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THE ENJOYMENT AND EDUCATION THEY PROVIDE TO AMERICANS OF ALL AGES. WE MUST ENSURE THAT THE PARK SERVICE HAS THE RESOURCES THEY REQUIRE TO ENSURE THEIR PARKS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE PROPERLY OPERATED. HOW ABOUT THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES IN THIS LEGISLATION? BESIDES THE YOU SLIDE IT CUTS TO OUR HEALTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENVIRONMENT, THE BILL BEFORE US DRASTICALLY CUTS FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS AND NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES. AS A FORMER TEACHER, AS A MEMBER OF THE CONGRESSIONAL ARTS CAUCUS, MANY OF US ARE, I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT OUR ARTS AND HUMANITIES EDUCATION HAVE ON THE SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS. IN MY DISTRICT AS A RESULT OF THE ECONOMIC CRISIS, MANY SCHOOLS HAVE ENFORCED THE CUTBACK IN ARTS PROGRAMS TO LAY OFF ARTS TEACHERS. THEY'RE THE FIRST TO GO. IN CONCLUSION, LET ME SAY THIS -- I WOULD SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THIS LEGISLATION NEEDS A LOT TO BE DESIRED. AND I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 02:52:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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    THE CLERK

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MR. DICKS

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 58, BEGINNING ON LINE 13, STRIKE SECTION…

    BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 58, BEGINNING ON LINE 13, STRIKE SECTION 118.

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  • 02:53:36 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, AND THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON HIS…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, AND THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON HIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 02:53:44 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD STRIKE SECTION 118 WHICH…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD STRIKE SECTION 118 WHICH AMENDS THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS PROCEDURE FOR GRAZING DECISIONS ON PUBLIC LAND, TO REQUIRE PARTIES TO EXHAUST ALL ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS BEFORE THEY MAY FILE SUIT IN FEDERAL COURT THIS IS A BACK DOOR ATTEMPT TO CURTAIL THE USE OF JUNCTIONS TO STOP GRAZING DECISIONS MADE BY THE B.L.M. WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO SEEK CONJUNKETIVE RELIEF, OPPONENTS OF A GRAZING DECISION ARE HANDICAPPED BECAUSE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO A RESOURCE MAY OCCUR WHILE THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL PROCESS IS BEING EXHAUSTED. AND I WOULD YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 02:54:33 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. WE HEAR FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE…

    THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. WE HEAR FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO SEEK CONJUNCTIVE RELIEF FROM THE COURTS, OPPONENTS OF GRAZING DECISION ARE VERY MUCH HANDICAPPED BECAUSE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO A RESOURCE MAY OCCUR WHILE THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS PROCESS IS BEING EXHAUSTED. I KNOW THAT'S THE CONCERN. I KNOW THAT'S THE CONCERN OF THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE. BUT LET ME SHARE ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I THINK UNDERLIES THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF GRAZING. CURRENTLY, I KNOW THE RANKING MEMBER IS AWARE OF THIS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHARGES $1.35 PER MONTH PER COW TO GRAZE ON FEDERALLY OWNED LAND. IN THE MEANTIME, STATES LIKE IDAHO CHARGE FIVE TIMES THAT, $5.12. OR $6.12. NEBRASKA CAN CHARGE UP TO $41 PER ACRE TO GRAZE ON STATE-OWNED LAND. TEXAS -- I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN IS AWARE OF THIS. TEXAS WILL CHARGE $65 TO $150 PER ACRE PER COW, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHARGES $1.35. NOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF FEDERAL SUBSIDY THAT WE REALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO GO AFTER WHEN WE'RE CUTTING DEEPLY INTO THE BONE, PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DESTITUTE, PROGRAMS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, FOR NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTRY, WE'RE GIVING THIS KIND OF A SUBSIDY $1.35 FOR FEDERAL -- TO GRAZE ON FEDERAL LAND VERSUS AS MUCH AS $65 TO $150 THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS CHARGES TO GRAZE ON STATE LAND. AND THEN PRIVATE LAND IS EVEN -ON-TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF SUBSIDY I DON'T THINK PASSES, A TEST OF SCRUTINY THAT THE TAXPAYER IS AWARE OF THE KIND OF SUBSIDY THEY'RE PROVIDING SOME GRAZERS ON THEIR FEDERALLY OWNED LANDS. IT OUGHT TO BE RECTIFIED. BUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE SIMPLY RUBS SALT INTO THAT WOUND. I'D YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 02:57:15 PM

    MR. DICKS

    BACK. I, AGAIN -- I ASK FOR SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT.

  • 02:57:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 02:57:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    THE COSTS OR SUBSIDIES HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AMENDMENT.…

    THE COSTS OR SUBSIDIES HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AMENDMENT. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. SHOULD THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE LOOK AT THE PRICE THAT'S CHARGED FOR CATTLE GRAZING, FOR MINING, OTHER THINGS? SURE, THEY SHOULD BE. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT. ALL THIS AMENDMENT SAYS IS THAT IN THE PAST B.L.M. REGULATIONS HAVE REQUIRED LITIGANTS TO EXHAUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BEFORE LITIGATING IN FEDERAL COURT. THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT'S BEEN SET UP ADMINISTRATIVELY BEFORE THEY CAN GO TO COURT. RECENTLY NUMEROUS LAWSUITS OVER GRAZING HAVE BEEN FILED IN FEDERAL COURTS BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THAT MEANS THEY HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH TO FIND OUT WHETHER THEY WIN OR LOSE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. THIS TIES UP THE B.L.M. FIELD OFFICES BECAUSE THEY MUST RESPOND TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS ON ONE SIDE AND A LITIGATION PROCESS ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS PROVISION SIMPLY REQUIRES LITIGANTS TO FIRST EXHAUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BEFORE LITIGATING PROCESS IN COURT. LITIGANTS CAN STILL FILE FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDERS, CONTRARY TO WHAT THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE IRREPAIRABLE HARM AND THEY CAN STILL FILE FOR A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER. NOTHING IN THIS BILL PREVENTS THAT. I WOULD HOPE, AND I KNOW THE GOOD RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, MR. DICKS, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IF WE COULD SPEND MORE MONEY ACTUALLY MANAGING THE LANDS RATHER THAN IN COURT WE WOULD ALL BE BETTER OFF. ALL THIS SAYS IS FOLLOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES, EXHAUST THEM BEFORE YOU GO TO COURT. YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPTION AFTER THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED. AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN STILL GET A RESTRAINING ORDER IF THERE'S IRREPARABLE HARM. THIS, I THINK, WILL CUT DOWN ON THE LAWSUITS, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROVISION IN THE BILL. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON AND VIRGINIA WOULD RECOGNIZE HOW WELL THE UNDERLYING BILL IS WRITTEN AND WOULD WITHDRAW THEIR AMENDMENT.

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  • 02:59:32 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? MR.

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    MR. DICKS

    AM TOLD THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER IS VERY…

    AM TOLD THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER IS VERY NARROWLY DRAFTED. I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 02:59:52 PM

    MR. MORAN

    YOU. IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD. IT'S ONLY IF THE FEDERAL COURT FINDS…

    YOU. IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD. IT'S ONLY IF THE FEDERAL COURT FINDS THAT THE AGENCY FAILED OR WAS UNABLE TO MAKE INFORMATION TIMELY AVAILABLE DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW, ACCORDING TO THIS LANGUAGE. SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO -- MR.

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  • 03:00:11 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE UNDERSTAND. WE'RE NOT…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE UNDERSTAND. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.

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  • 03:00:20 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD? I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO POINTS. ONE, THIS IS…

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD YIELD? I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO POINTS. ONE, THIS IS CLEARLY AUTHORIZING LANGUAGE ON AN APPROPRIATIONS BILL. IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE LAW, THEN IT OUGHT TO BE DONE BY THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE. BUT, SECONDLY, I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN IS AWARE, YOU CAN ONLY GET AN INJUNCTION FROM A FEDERAL JUDGE IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO WIN YOUR CASE OR IF THERE IS IMMINENT HARM. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THE GENTLEMAN IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXISTING LEGAL SITUATION.

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  • 03:00:57 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. THE REASON I'M CONCERNED IS THE EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. THE REASON I'M CONCERNED IS THE EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING IN COURT INSTEAD OF ON MANAGING PUBLIC LANDS. THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE HERE. AND WE HAVE A PROCESS SET UP WHERE IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS YOU CAN GO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, GO THROUGH IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE OUTCOME, GO TO COURT. THAT'S ALL WE'RE SAYING. AND IS THIS LEGISLATING ON AN APPROPRIATION BILL? WELL, I GUESS FUNDING UNAUTHORIZED PROGRAMS IS LEGISLATING ON AN APPROPRIATION BILL ALSO. WHICH WE'VE DONE IN SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL. WHICH YOU SUPPORT. SO I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:01:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PAGE 59, LINE 16, GRAY WOLF, SECTION 119 --

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    THE CLERK

    16, GRAY WOLF, SECTION 119 --

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MR. DICKS

    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 59, BEGINNING ON LINE…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 59, BEGINNING ON LINE 16, STRIKE SECTION 119.

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  • 03:02:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:02:21 PM

    MR. DICKS

    EXEMPTS FROM JUDICIAL REVIEW ANY FINAL RULE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE…

    EXEMPTS FROM JUDICIAL REVIEW ANY FINAL RULE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR THAT DELISTS WOLVES IN WYOMING OR THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES STATES. PROVIDED THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE HAS NOTICE AND ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE FOR IT TO MANAGE THE WOLVES. THE IRONY HERE IS THAT THE MAJORITY DOES NOT TRUST ANY ACTION OF SECRETARY SALAZAR EXCEPT IF IT INVOLVES THE DELISTING OF WOLVES. THE RIDER UNDERCUTS THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO PETITION A FEDERAL COURT TO REVIEW AN AGENCY'S DECISION AND BLOCKS THE COURT'S ABILITY TO CARRY OUT ITS CUSTOMARY AUTHORITY TO REVIEW EXECUTIVE BRANCH DECISIONS. NOW, I HAVE BEEN A STRONG PROPONENT OF THE REINTRODUCTION OF THE GRAY WOLF INTO YELLOWSTONE AND IN OTHER AREAS. THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OPERATIONS IN THE RESTORING A SPECIES THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETELY WIPED OUT IN OUR COUNTRY. AND TODAY WE'RE SEEING ALL OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD UNDERCUT THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO GO TO COURT IF THEY DON'T THINK THE AGENCY HAS DONE THIS ACCORDING TO THE LAW. AND I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR SECRETARY SALAZAR AND I'M SURE HE WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PROHIBITION ON JUDICIAL REVIEW. AND I'D LIKE TO YIELD TO THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER FOR ANY COMMENTS HE WOULD HAVE ON THIS.

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  • 03:03:57 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MY ONLY OBSERVATION IS, IT'S IRONIC THAT THE…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MY ONLY OBSERVATION IS, IT'S IRONIC THAT THE MAJORITY DOESN'T SEEM TO TRUST ANYTHING THE SECRETARY -- THAT SECRETARY SALAZAR DOES EXCEPT IF IT INVOLVES THE DELISTING OF WOLVES . THIS RIDER DOES UNDERCUT THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO PETITION A FEDERAL COURT TO REVIEW AN AGENCY'S DECISION. SO WE'RE ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT HERE WITH REGARD TO WOLVES. IT BLOCKS THE COURT'S ABILITY TO CARRY OUT ITS CUSTOMARY AUTHORITY TO REVIEW EXECUTIVE BRANCH DECISIONS. THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH MAKES A DETERMINATION AND IN OUR SYSTEM IF THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T AGREE, THEY HAVE RECOURSE TO THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. THIS SAYS, NO, WE'RE GOING TO SUSPEND THAT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION, NO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GO TO THE COURTS, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS HERE, THEY MAKE A DECISION, THAT'S IT. PERMANENT. WELL, WE LIKE SECRETARY SALAZAR AND WE SUPPORT SECRETARY SALAZAR FAR MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN THE MAJORITY DOES, IF THE MAJORITY SUPPORTS HIM ON ANYTHING. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HE DON'T REALLY SEE WHY WE NEED TO SUSPEND -- BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN THIS SPECIFIC UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:05:28 PM

    MR. DICKS

    ASK FOR THE SUPPORT FOR MY AMENDMENT. I THINK IT CORRECTS A FLAW IN THIS…

    ASK FOR THE SUPPORT FOR MY AMENDMENT. I THINK IT CORRECTS A FLAW IN THIS BILL AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE A LOT OF FLAWS.

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  • 03:05:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

  • 03:05:45 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:05:49 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO OPPOSE MY FRIEND'S AMENDMENT. I…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO OPPOSE MY FRIEND'S AMENDMENT. I HOPE THIS ISN'T A PATTERN LONG-TERM BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR BILL THIS SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN AT ANY RATE. HIS AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE THE IMPORTANT LANGUAGE IN H.R. 2584 THAT ADDRESSES THE ADMINISTRATION'S CONFUSING POLICY INVOLVING A ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, LISTED POPULATIONS OF GRAY WOLVES NATIONWIDE. AS I MENTIONED ON THE HOUSE FLOOR DURING A COLLOQUY WITH CHAIRMAN SIMPSON ON MONDAY, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS CREATED A CONFUSING AND IMPRACTICAL RESULT WITH ITS RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT TO DELIST THE GRAY WOLVES IN SOME STATES BUT LEAVE OTHER STATES, SUCH AS WASHINGTON, OREGON AND UTAH, WITH MIXED MANAGEMENT. H.R. 2584 AS WRITTEN AND AS COLLARIFIED IN MY COLLOQUY WITH THE CHAIRMAN WOULD HELP REMEDY THIS FLAWED POLICY. PROBLEMS WITH THE FEDERAL MANAGEMENT OF GRAY WOLVES ARE NEARLY AS OLD AS THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT ITSELF. FIVE YEARS AFTER E.S.A.'S PASSAGE, IN 1978, THE GRAY WOLF WAS LIFFLETTED AS ENDANGERED OR THREATENED IN ALL OF THE LOWER 48 STATES. IN THE MID 1990'S THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION ORDERED AN EXPERIMENTAL INTRODUCTION OF WOLVES INTO THE YELLOWSTONE AREA , CENTRAL IDAHO AND THE MEXICAN WOLVES INTO ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO AND TEXAS. IT ALSO ESTABLISHED A NEW DEFINITION TO IDENTIFY THE POPULATION OF LISTED SPECIES. AS A RESULT, WOLVES MULTIPLIED BUT UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T READ MAPS THEY MOVED INTO AREAS WHERE THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GO. IN 2003 THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE DIVIDED GRAY WOLVES INTO GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES THAT MADE MORE SENSE. IT INCLUDED THE ENTIRE STATES OF WASHINGTON, OREGON, UTAH AND OTHER AREAS SO THAT STATES WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN STATE MANAGEMENT PLANS TO REMOVE WOLFS FROM THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST -- WOLVES FROM THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST. THEN IN 2009 THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REVERSED COURSE SO THAT ONLY PARTS OF CERTAIN STATES. THAT WOULD LEAVE THOSE AREAS, BUT WOULD LEAVE OTHER AREAS WHERE WOLVES LIKELY POPULATE STILL, THIS IS UNDER E.S.A. AS A RESULT IN MY OWN FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN CENTRAL WASHINGTON, I'LL PUT UP A MAP HERE, THE WOLVES ARE DELISTED ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF HIGHWAYS 97, 17 AND 395. HIGHWAY 97, HIGHWAY 17 AND 395. DELISTED OVER HERE, LISTED OVER HERE. THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND IT SHOWS HOW THE E.S.A. IS BADLY IN NEED OF UPDATING AND HOW INEFFECTIVE THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE IS IN MANAGING WOLVES. AND I MIGHT ADD, THIS IS TRULY -- IN PARTS OF OREGON AND PARTS OF UTAH. SO I OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE COLLOQUY THAT I HAD WITH THE CHAIRMAN IS ONE THAT SETS THE STAGE FOR PROPERLY MANAGING THESE WOLVES IN THE STATES THAT I ASSOCIATE WITH. I JUST MIGHT ADD ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I LIVE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO HERE AND -- BUT I LIVE IN THE LISTED AREA. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE DO -- WE DO FISH MARKING, I KNOW MY FRIEND IS VERY WELL OF FISH MARKING AND I'M NOT OPPOSING THE AUTHORIZING ON THIS BILL AS THE GENTLEMAN KNOWS THIS YEAR ANYWAY, BUT THERE'S NO LISTING HERE FOR THE GRAY WOLF. NOW, I HAVE NO IDEA IF A WOLF CROSSES DOWN HERE INTO MY AREA IF IT IS IN FACT A LISTED OR A DELISTED WOLF. BUT APPARENTLY FISH AND WILDLIFE THINKS THAT THEY KNOW WHERE HIGHWAY 17 OR HIGHWAY 97 ENDS, WHERE 17 COMES DOWN HERE AND CONNECTS WITH HIGHWAY 395, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ARBITRARY RULE SAYS. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THIS, THE COLLOQUY I HAD WITH CHAIRMAN SIMPSON COLLARIFIED THIS THAT IT INCLUDES THE -- CLARIFIED THIS THAT IT INCLUDES THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:10:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM WYOMING RISE?

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  • 03:10:24 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I ALSO RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT…

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I ALSO RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON. THE BEST WAY TO MANAGE WOLVES IS TO LET STATE EXPERTS DO THE JOB. NOW, THAT'S TRUE WHETHER YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF WOLVES IN YOUR STATE, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON WANTS TO DO, OR YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A RECOVERED POPULATION WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN MY STATE OF WYOMING. NOW, THE TRUTH ABOUT CURRENT WOLF MANAGEMENT IS THAT IF WASHINGTON WANTS TO TRY TO INCREASE THE WOLF POPULATION IN WESTERN WASHINGTON, THEY CANNOT DO IT UNDER THE CURRENT RULES. AND IN MY STATE OF WYOMING, WHERE WHEN ASKED AT OUR COMMITTEE MEETING WHETHER THE WOLF WAS FULLY RECOVERED IN THE STATE OF WYOMING, THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE TESTIFIED THAT, YES, THE GRAY WOLF IS FULLY RECOVERED IN THE STATE OF WYOMING, HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.

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  • 03:11:30 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I WILL.

  • 03:11:46 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. I'M COMING TO THAT. THE STATE OF WYOMING HAS A WOLF…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. I'M COMING TO THAT. THE STATE OF WYOMING HAS A WOLF MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AS ADEQUATE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THROUGH LITIGATION UPON LITIGATION UPON LITIGATION THE COURTS CHANGED THEIR MIND, THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE CHANGED ITS MIND, THE COURT CHANGED ITS MIND AGAIN, THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE CHANGED ITS MIND AGAIN. SO THIS IS A PROCESS THAT IS DRIVEN BY LITIGATION NOT BY SCIENCE. BECAUSE THE SCIENCE AND THE NUMBERS BOTH SAY THAT THE GRAY WOLF IS RECOVERED IN WYOMING. WYOMING HAS A WOLF MANAGEMENT PLAN ON THE BOOKS. HOWEVER, WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT THE STATE OF WYOMING, THROUGH ITS GOVERNOR, WILL NEGOTIATE CHANGES TO THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH WHEN AGREED TO WITH U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND SUBMITTED TO THE WYOMING LEGISLATURE WILL NOT THEN BE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL WHIP SAW LITIGATION. THAT WILL BE THE END OF IT. RETURNING MANAGEMENT OF WOLVES TO THE STATE EXPERTS THAT SHOULD BE DOING THIS JOB. WOLF MANAGEMENT IS FROZEN AND IT NEED NOT BE. BY TRYING TO STRIP THIS LANGUAGE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON EMBOLDENS THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT WASHINGTON STATE OR OREGON OR WISCONSIN OR MICHIGAN OR WYOMING OR ANY OTHER STATE TO MAKE ITS OWN DECISIONS USING ITS OWN WILDLIFE BIOLOGISTS. I BELIEVE THAT STATE WILDLIFE EXPERTS, NOT D.C. CUBE DWELLERS, HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE PASSION TO MANAGE THE WOLF ANYWHERE THEY ROAM. IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS LEGISLATION AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SCIENCE, THE BACKGROUND, THE KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WOLF, WHICH HAS ADMITTEDLY BEEN RECOVERED, ADMITTEDLY BY THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE RECOVERED, TO BE MANAGED IN A WAY THAT ENSURES THAT ONGOING RECOVERED STATUS AND ENSURES IT AT THE VERY LEVEL WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT, WHERE THE BOOTS ARE ON THE GROUND OF THE WILDLIFE BIOLOGISTS AND THE PAWS ARE ON THE GROUND OF THE WOLF THAT IS ALREADY RECOVERED BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED PURSUANT TO A WOLF MANAGEMENT PLAN. LET'S TRUST OUR STATES, THEIR WILDLIFE BIOLOGISTS, LET'S TRUST MY WYOMING GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT THAT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BEST WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTRY. I'M STUNNED THAT PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO IT BETTER AND MAKE DECISIONS FOR WOLVES THEY'VE NEVER SEEN IN PLACES THEY'VE NEVER BEEN AND DON'T TRUST WILDLIFE BIOLOGISTS THEY'VE NEVER MET. IT IS MUCH BETTER IF THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND WHERE THE WILDLIFE ARE ON THE GROUND, WHERE THE INTERACTION IS ON THE GROUND, WHERE THE CONDITIONS ARE UNDERSTOOD, WHERE THE GEOGRAPHY IS KNOWN, WHERE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY, WHERE THE BIRTH RATES, WHERE THE SURVIVABILITY OF THE SPECIES CAN BE WITNESSED AND DETERMINED. MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:15:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE? SIMPSON

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  • 03:15:46 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 03:15:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:15:51 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 03:19:59 PM

    MR. DICKS

    I'LL BE HAPPY TO YIELD.

  • 03:20:01 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I'LL BE HAPPY TO YIELD.

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    MR. DICKS

    EXACTLY.

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    MR. DICKS

    PROBLEM IS WYOMING, WYOMING'S PLAN DIDN'T LACK CREDIBILITY. NOW, I…

    PROBLEM IS WYOMING, WYOMING'S PLAN DIDN'T LACK CREDIBILITY. NOW, I UNDERSTAND IT DOES, BUT WHAT THE JUDGE IS SAYING, YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE WOLF THROUGHOUT THE AREA WHICH INCLUDED WYOMING. THAT'S WHY THEY COULDN'T -- THAT'S WHY THEY COULDN'T DELIST IT WITHOUT DEALING WITH WYOMING AND WYOMING WASN'T READY. SO I HOPE THAT WYOMING WILL COME UP WITH A CREDIBLE PLAN AT THE STATE LEVEL TO KEEP THE WOLF GOING.

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  • 03:20:53 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. IF WOLF POPULATION GETS BELOW CERTAIN LEVELS, IT GOES…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. IF WOLF POPULATION GETS BELOW CERTAIN LEVELS, IT GOES ON AN ENDANGERED LIST. IDAHO AND WYOMING AND MONTANA WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GO FOR PROCEEDING WITH THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT AND MAKING SURE IT DOES WHAT -- WITH THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

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  • 03:21:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO IS YIELDED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. HASTINGS

    THE DEBATE THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS HAVING. IF YOU RECALL IN THE…

    THE DEBATE THAT THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IS HAVING. IF YOU RECALL IN THE C.R., THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WAS ALLOWED TO -- WAS ABLE TO ALLOW IDAHO AND MONTANA TO DELIST. NOBODY COULD MANAGE. THAT WAS THE FLAW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING WHY, AS WE HAD LAST NIGHT, PROBABLY HAVE OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON IT, WHY S.E.A. NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT -- WHERE E.S.A. NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY. IT'S CLEARLY A FLAW. I'M GLAD THE C.R. AMENDED THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROVISION. THIS IS A COL KEY WE HAD REGARDING WASHINGTON, OREGON AND UTAH WAS SIMPLY TO -- COLLOQUY WE HAD REGARDING WASHINGTON, OREGON AND UTAH WAS SIMPLY MOVING IN A DIRECTION TO MANAGE THE POPULATION. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 03:22:21 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I WANT TO SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN IF YOU YIELD, I TRIED TO INTRODUCE THE WOLF…

    I WANT TO SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN IF YOU YIELD, I TRIED TO INTRODUCE THE WOLF IN WESTERN WASHINGTON BUT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INTERIOR COMMITTEE IN THE OTHER BODY DISAGREED WITH ME.

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  • 03:22:34 PM

    MR. DICKS

    COMMITTEE IN THE OTHER BODY DISAGREED WITH ME.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. WESTERN WASHINGTON. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE HAVE…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME. WESTERN WASHINGTON. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL WOLVES THAT HAVE COME TO MY HOUSE AND THEY PRESENTED ME WITH A PETITION THEY WOULD LIKE TO VISIT THE CASCADES.

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  • 03:23:04 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    WOLVES ARE SHOWING UP IN THE CASCADES NOW, EASTERN SIDE OF THE CASCADES.…

    WOLVES ARE SHOWING UP IN THE CASCADES NOW, EASTERN SIDE OF THE CASCADES. YOU'LL GET THEM. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:23:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 03:23:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS, WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 03:23:40 PM

    THE CLERK

    6, TRAILING LIVESTOCK OVER LAND.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MR. DICKS

    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 60, BEGINNING ON LINE 6, STRIKE…

    OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 60, BEGINNING ON LINE 6, STRIKE SECTION 120.

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  • 03:23:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DICKS

    SECTION 120 PROVIDES THAT FOR 2012 THROUGH 2014 THE MOVEMENT OF LIVESTOCK…

    SECTION 120 PROVIDES THAT FOR 2012 THROUGH 2014 THE MOVEMENT OF LIVESTOCK ACROSS PUBLIC LANDS SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT FOR NEPA REVIEW. PROPONENTS OF THIS PROVISION SAYS THAT MOVING CATTLE FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER SHOULD NOT HAVE A NEPA REVIEW. HOWEVER, MOVEMENT OF THIS CATTLE COULD TAKE WEEKS AND NOT JUST DAYS. THE IMPACT ON WATER, PLANT AND OTHER WILDLIFE SPECIES, INCLUDING BIG HORN SHEEP, CAN BE SIGNIFICANT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 03:24:43 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE MAY BE THINKING, WELL,…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE MAY BE THINKING, WELL, WHAT'S A GUY FROM A HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN AREA IN THE WASHINGTON AREA WITH NO CATTLE IN HIS DISTRICT KNOW SO I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECTLY FINE AMENDMENT. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR LIVESTOCK, YOU KNOW, MOVING FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER? BUT UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION, WHAT IS NOT IMMEDIATELY APPARENT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT. AS THE GENTLEMAN HAS SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY WIDE SWATHS OF LAND THAT ARE COVERED BY THESE LIVESTOCK MOVEMENTS, AND THEY DON'T JUST TAKE, YOU KNOW, A FEW HOURS OR A FEW DAYS. SOMETIMES THEY COULD TAKE WEEKS. AND WHEN YOU GOT VERY LARGE HERDS OF CATTLE, YOU CAN CAUSE QUITE SOME DESTRUCTION TO THE SOIL, TO THE BRUSH, TO WATERWAYS, TO ANY NUMBER OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES IN THE PROCESS OF MAJOR TRANSFERS FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER OF VERY LARGE HERDS OF CATTLE. SO THERE CAN BE VERY SUBSTANTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION. THAT'S WHY THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS FEEL THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME APPEAL TO THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, AND THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE, REALLY, IS TO HAVE A NEPA REVIEW. THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT WILL REVIEW IT. THEY'LL TELL US WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS WILL BE, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES AND THEN BASED UPON THAT INFORMATION IN THOSE THAT HAVE LAND OR INTEREST THAT WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY LARGE MOVEMENTS OF CATTLE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. SO THAT'S WHY THE NEPA REVIEW HAS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO -- AND ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

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  • 03:26:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I REFER MY REMARKS TO THE CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO GET THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I REFER MY REMARKS TO THE CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO GET THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA OUT ON A HORSE AND MOVING SOME CATTLE. MOVING FROM ONE GRAZING AREA TO ANOTHER, IT GENERALLY DOESN'T TAKE WEEKS, IT CERTAINLY DON'T TAKE WEEKS IN THE SAME LOCATION YOU'RE MOVING FROM ONE HOECATION TO ANOTHER. TRAILING HAS NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. IN THE PAST IT HAS GENERALLY BEEN CONSIDERED -- IN THE PAST IT HAS GENERALLY BEEN CONSIDERED GRAZING ON PUBLIC LANDS. THE B.L.M. HAS ISSUED PERMITS FOR TRAILING ITSELF, FOCUSING INSTEAD ON THE IMPACTS OF GRAZING. FOCUSING ON THE IMPACTS OF GRAZING INSTEAD. RECENTLY, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM AND THIS IS WHY THIS AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US. THIS IS WHY THIS AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US. RECENTLY ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVISTS THAT WANT TO GET CATTLE OFF OF PUBLIC LANDS, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TRY TO DO THIS. I DISAGREE WITH THEM, BUT THEY HAVE FOCUSED THEIR ATTENTION ON TRAILING AS A WAY TO SHUT DOWN GRAZING ON PUBLIC LANDS. CONGRESS, NOT THE COURTS, HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE PUBLIC LAND POLICIES AND TODAY RESPONSIBLE GRAZING IS AN IMPORTANT AND LEGITIMATE USE OF PUBLIC LANDS. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THE ACTIVISTS HAVE TIED LOCAL B.L.M. OFFICES UP IN KNOTS WITH LITIGATION, JUDGES ARE NOW DETERMINING HOW PUBLIC LANDS CAN BE USED IN THE WEST. THIS PROVISION, AND IN THE SRNT PART, THIS PROVISION ATTEMPTS TO GET AHEAD OF THIS ISSUE BY EXEMPTING TREALING FROM NEEPEA -- TRAILING FROM NEPA REQUIREMENTS FROM 2012 TO 2014. I HOPE THE GENTLEMAN'S LISTENING. IT EXEMPTS THE TRAILING FROM NEPA REQUIREMENTS FROM 2012 TO 2014. IT REQUIRES PERMITS ON TRAILING, FOREST SERVICES. THE B.L.M. HAS NOT IN THE PAST. BUT INSTEAD THESE LITIGATIONS ARE TYING THIS UP IN KNOTS. THE B.L.M. IS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO INCLUDE TRAILING WHEN THEY ISSUE THEIR GRAZING PERMITS SO THAT IT WILL BE THE NEPA PROCESS ON TRAILING WILL BE INCLUDED. THE PROBLEM IS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THEY GET THAT COMPLETED WE'RE GOING TO BE IN COURT SPENDING ALL OUR MONEY IN COURT RATHER THAN GETTING THIS PROCESSING -- MOVING THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO REQUIRING NEPA PROCESS ON TRAILING PERMITS JUST LIKE THE FOREST SERVICE DOES, BUT LET'S -- BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS EXEMPT THIS THROUGH 2014 WHILE B.L.M., FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, GETS THEIR ACT TOGETHER. THAT'S ALL THIS DOES. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:29:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM WYOMING RISE?

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  • 03:29:56 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    THE LAST WORD.

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    MRS. LUMMIS

    I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AS WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S A GENTLEMAN…

    I RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AS WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S A GENTLEMAN WHO IS A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST BY THE NAME OF ALLEN SAVORY. AND ALLEN SAVORY STUDIED THE WAY BUFFALO GRAZED ON THE SWEEPING LANDSCAPES OF THE AMERICAN WEST. AND BUFFALO GRAZED IN A MANNER THAT CUT WIDE SWATHS OF CONCENTRATED NUMBERS OF BUFFALO THAT WOULD MOVE THROUGH AND GRAZE LITERALLY EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE NUBS. BOTH THE WEEDS, THE BUFFALO GRASS AND ALL OF THE VERY NUTRITIOUS HARD GRASSES AND THE GRASSES OF THE SAND HILLS IN NEBRASKA, VERY DIFFERENT, VERY NUTRITIOUS GRASSES THAT WE CALL HARD GRASSES. SOME SHORT HARD GRASS AND OTHERS THE TALL GRASS. BUT THEY'D TAKE EVERYTHING OUT. AND THEY WOULD AT THE SAME TIME, THROUGH THEIR SPLIT HOOVES, KNEAD THE SOIL IN WAY THAT ALLOWED THOSE LANDS TO -- IN A WAY THAT ALLOWED THOSE LANDS TO GROW MORE HEALTHY, MORE GROWN IN PRIOR TO THIS INTENSIVE SHORT-TERM GRAZING. THAT'S HOW BUFFALO GRAZED, THE -- GRAZED THE PLAINS OF THE UNITED STATES BEFORE PEOPLE WERE HERE. SO, ALLEN SAVORY TOOK THOSE SAME PRACTICES TO RODESIA AND STUDIED THE MANNER IN WHICH GRAZING OCCURRED THERE AND CREATED SOMETHING CALLED THE SAVORY SYSTEM, THE SAVORY GRAZING SYSTEM IS NOW USED IN A NUMBER OF PLACES THROUGHOUT THE WEST AND IT ACTUALLY EMULATES THE WAY THAT BUFFALO GRAZED. AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRAIL CATTLE AND SHEEP ACROSS PUBLIC LANDS IN A MANNER IN WHICH KEEPS THEM CONCENTRATED FOR VERY SHORT PERIODS OF TIME, WHERE THEY DO VERY INTENSIVE GRAZING FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN GET OFF THAT LAND QUICKLY SO THAT GRASS CAN REGENERATE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE TYPE OF RUNOFF THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME CHARISMATIC MEGAPHENOMENAA OVERGRAZING DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY IN THE SAME PLACE. THAT'S WHY THESE GRAZING PRACTICES ARE APPROPRIATE, THESE TRAILING PRACTICES ARE APPROPRIATE AND ACTUALLY GREAT A HEALTHIER GRAZING SITUATION THAT CARRIES A LONG-TERM, STURDIER, STRONGER, HEALTHIER GRASS RESOURCE TO BE USED BY WILDLIFE AND DOMESTIC ANIMALS. THAT IS WHY ON A SCIENTIFIC BASIS THERE IS GREAT RATIONALE FOR RELIEVING PEOPLE WHO TRAIL LIVESTOCK ACROSS PUBLIC LANDS FROM THE ONEROUS EXPENSIVE OBLIGATIONS OF THE NEPA PROCESS. I APPEAL TO THE DESIRE TO USE SOUND SCIENCE IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE APPROACH THESE ISSUES AND NOT THE TYPE OF EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS THAT ARE RAISED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO GRAZING. AND I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 03:33:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 03:33:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PAGE 60, LINE 15, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS --

  • 03:33:54 PM

    THE CLERK

    15, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS --

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    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MR. DICKS

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 60, BEGINNING ON LINE 15, STRIKE…

    OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON. PAGE 60, BEGINNING ON LINE 15, STRIKE SECTION 121.

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  • 03:34:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:34:14 PM

    MR. DICKS

    SECTION 121 REQUIRES THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, REGULATION AND…

    SECTION 121 REQUIRES THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT TO KEEP DETAILED RECORDS AND PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS ON ANY OIL AND GAS PERMIT OR PLAN THAT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE AGENCY. THEY DON'T ASK FOR THE ONES THAT WERE APPROVED, JUST THE ONES THAT WERE NOT APPROVED. THIS IS THE MAJORITY'S ATTEMPT TO TRY TO SPEED UP THE APPROVAL OF OIL, GAS PERMITS AND PLANS AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT. HERE WE ARE 16 MONTHS AFTER DEEPWATER HORIZON AND THE CONGRESS HASN'T ENACTED A SINGLE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY REFORM. DESPITE THE SERIOUS SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SHORTCOMINGS FOUND AS A RESULT OF THE DEEPWATER HORIZON TRAGEDY, THE MAJORITY WANTS BOEMRE TO RETURN TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF LAX REVIEWS AND QUICK APPROVAL OF OIL AND GAS PERMITS AND PLANS. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN AND I YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER FOR HIS COMMENTS ON THIS AMENDMENT. THIS PROVISION.

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  • 03:35:21 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. NOT SURPRISINGLY I FULLY AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. NOT SURPRISINGLY I FULLY AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT THIS LANGUAGE AGAIN IS INAPPROPRIATE IN HERE. IT'S PUNITIVE. IT REQUIRES EXCESSIVE RECORD KEEPING AND IRONICALLY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS THAT THIS IS REQUIRING TOO MUCH RECORD KEEPING. WELL, NOW WE -- WHAT WE DO IS REQUIRING IN THIS BILL EVEN MORE DETAILED RECORDS THAT ARE NOT NOW REQUIRED AND IT'S GOING TO EXPAND THE BUREAUCRACY, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS ON ANY OIL AND GAS PERMIT OR PLAN THAT WASN'T APPROVED BY THE AGENCY. SO IN OTHER WORDS THE INTENTION IS TO DISCOURAGE THE AGENCY FROM NOT APPROVING ANYTHING, EVEN IF THEY FEEL THAT THE OIL AND GAS DRILLING OPERATION MIGHT NOT BE A SAFE ONE, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE REQUISITE RULES IN PLACE TO PREVENT A DEEPWATER HORIZON TRAGEDY. IT SAYS, FROM EACH SUCH DOCUMENT THAT THE BUREAU RECEIVES THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE DATE THE DOCUMENT WAS RETURNED, THE DATE THE DOCUMENT IS TREATED BY THE BUREAU, THE DATE OF FINAL AGENCY ACTION BY THE DOCUMENT AND ON AND ON. MORE AND MORE RECORDS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY. WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS IS. IT'S TO TELL THE NEW OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, IT'S IN YOUR INTEREST, JUST SPEED THESE ALONG. DON'T HOLD UP ANY OF THESE PERMITS BECAUSE IF YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS VERY BURDENSOME REQUIREMENT ON YOU. HERE 16 MONTHS AFTER DEEPWATER HORIZON AND THE CONGRESS HASN'T ENACTED A SINGLE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY REFORM AND THE MAJORITY WANTS US TO RETURN TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF VERY LAX REVIEWS, QUICK APPROVALS OF EVERY OIL AND GAS PERMIT AND PLAN AND IF YOU DON'T THEN WE'RE GOING TO IMPOSE THIS BURDENSOME REQUIREMENT UPON IT. THAT'S JUST NOT IN THE INTERESTS OF SAFETY, IT WORKS AGAINST OUR RESOLVE, NOT TO LET A DEEPWATER HORIZON TRAGEDY OCCUR AGAIN. I'M USING THIS ACRONYM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, IT'S THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT. IT'S THE NEW AGENCY THAT WAS SET UP TO PREVENT ANY FUTURE DEEPWATER HORIZON TRAGEDIES. SO HERE WE ARE, LANGUAGE THAT IS INTENDED TO MITIGATE AGAINST BOEMRE BEING ABLE TO DO ITS JOB SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE INTENTION OF THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE IN STRIKING THIS BURDENSOME LANGUAGE.

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  • 03:38:26 PM

    MR. DICKS

    BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 03:38:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO RISE?

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  • 03:38:32 PM

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    THE LAST WORD IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

  • 03:38:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    IF A LITTLE GREEN MAN FROM OUTER SPACE CAME AND LAND AND WATCHED THIS…

    IF A LITTLE GREEN MAN FROM OUTER SPACE CAME AND LAND AND WATCHED THIS DEBATE, THEY'D BE PUZZLED. AND IF THE GENTLEMAN ON THE OTHER SIDE WERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMENDMENT, I'M PUZZLED WHY THEY DIDN'T REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE IN THE COMMITTEE.

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  • 03:38:50 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    THIS WAS ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE, THE FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP BY A VOICE…

    THIS WAS ADOPTED IN THE COMMITTEE, THE FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP BY A VOICE VOTE. BUT THEN BEYOND THAT NOBODY WANTS ANOTHER DEEPWATER HORIZON, BUT THIS LANGUAGE THAT THAT THE GENTLEMEN ARE OBJECT -- THAT THE GENTLEMEN ARE OBJECTING TO SAYS THIS NEW AGENCY WILL REPORT QUARTERLY TO CONGRESS ON THE STATUS OF PERMITTING AND WHY PERMITS WERE REJECTED. NOW, WHY WOULD THE GENTLEMAN NOT WANT TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT OVER AN AGENCY TO WHICH WE APPROPRIATE DOLLARS? NOW, THIS WOULDN'T PUZZLE ME IF WE JUST HADN'T COME OFF OF FOUR YEARS OF A MAJORITY THAT WAS PREACHING TO US ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT AND OPENNESS. WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT SOME REPORT ISSUED BY THE AGENCY THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY THAT WE APPROPRIATE TO THEM AND WHAT'S THE STATUS AND WHY A PERMIT WAS REJECTED? THAT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION. JUST TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT AGENCY, I HAVE -- YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, MR. MORAN, AND I'VE BEEN INTRODUCED TO KNOW THAT I LIVED IN MR. MORAN'S DISTRICT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I'M HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND NEVER SAW ANYBODY GRAZING AND NEVER SAW ANYBODY MOVING LIVESTOCK, BUT IN MY AREA, IN MY AREA I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE THE NURSERY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. AND WE ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED WITH THE GUEST WORKER PROGRAM AND UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION APPLICATIONS FOR GUEST WORKER APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN DENIED AT AN ALARMING RATE. BUT WHEN WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR HOW MANY HAVE BEEN DENIED AND HOW MANY HAVE BEEN APPEALED AND HOW MANY APPEALS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, THEY KEEP THOSE RECORDS. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S A REASONABLE INQUIRY BY A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, A GUY WHO'S GROWING SOMETHING IN OHIO AND SO TO DESCRIBE THIS AS SOMEHOW BURDENSOME AND CRIPPLING AND SOMEHOW GOING TO LEAD TO ANOTHER HORIZON DEEPWATER DISASTER IS JUST RIDICULOUS. NOW, YOU GUYS, EXCUSE ME, THE GUYS ON THE OTHER SIDE, MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE GREAT MEMBERS AND GREAT ADVOCATES FOR A LOT OF THINGS. BUT THIS ARGUMENT DOESN'T EVEN PASS THE STRAIGHT FACE TEST AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY URGE THAT IT BE DEFEATED.

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  • 03:41:06 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    I'D LOVE TO YIELD TO MY FORMER CONGRESSMAN.

  • 03:41:09 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU HAD THIS DEEP-SEATED CONCERN, I KNOW, ABOUT WHY WE…

    THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU HAD THIS DEEP-SEATED CONCERN, I KNOW, ABOUT WHY WE DID NOT ASK FOR A VOTE SO I CAN CLARIFY THAT.

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  • 03:41:18 PM

    MR. MORAN

    IS WE WERE WLOMED WITH MORE THAN 40 AMENDMENTS -- OVERWHELMED WITH MORE…

    IS WE WERE WLOMED WITH MORE THAN 40 AMENDMENTS -- OVERWHELMED WITH MORE THAN 40 AMENDMENTS AND WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK TO THE WELFARE OF THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE, I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OF THESE ISSUES THAT YOU CAN CALL A ROARED VOTE ON. SO WE -- A RECORDED VOTE ON SO. WE TRIED TO BE --

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  • 03:41:39 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    RECLAIMING MY TIME.

  • 03:41:41 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD TO ME?

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    MR. DICKS

    I'M SURE THE GENTLEMAN HAS NOTICED, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ESTABLISH REGULAR…

    I'M SURE THE GENTLEMAN HAS NOTICED, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ESTABLISH REGULAR ORDER. HAVING A SUBCOMMITTEE MARKUP AND A FULL COMMITTEE MARKUP AND AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR WHICH IS WELCOME BY OUR SIDE. SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE A DECISION, ARE WE GOING TO ASK FOR A VOTE ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE? WE NEVER DO THAT. WE TRY TO COOPERATE. THIS IS COMITY, SOMETHING THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO UNDERSTANDS QUITE WELL. SO I WOULD JUST REMIND HIM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THESE BILLS AND THAT THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO NOT ASK FOR A VOTE ON EVERYTHING AND WE WANTED TO SAVE THIS ONE FOR THE FLOOR SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD HEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

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  • 03:42:55 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    JUST RECLAIMING MY TIME. I APPRECIATE IT AND I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN SAID…

    JUST RECLAIMING MY TIME. I APPRECIATE IT AND I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN SAID COMITY NOT COMEDY BUT I THINK THAT IT'S COMEDY WITH A D THAT REIGNS HERE AND I TRUST THE GENTLEMAN HAD HIS TONGUE FIRMLY PLANTED IN HIS CHEEK WHEN HE MADE THAT OBSERVATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:43:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAIL FROM LOUISIANA WHICH OF COURSE IS A VERY BIG PART OF…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAIL FROM LOUISIANA WHICH OF COURSE IS A VERY BIG PART OF WHAT THIS SECTION 121 IS ABOUT.

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  • 03:43:32 PM

    MR. FLEMING

    CERTAINLY WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS ABOUT. JUST BRINGING EVERYONE BACK, WE HAD…

    CERTAINLY WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS ABOUT. JUST BRINGING EVERYONE BACK, WE HAD THE DEEP HORIZON SPILL WHICH IS A TRAGIC SITUATION WHICH HAS HURT LOUISIANA IN SEVERAL WAYS, ONE BEING OF COURSE OIL IN THE WATER, THAT'S OBVIOUS, BUT THEN OF COURSE THE MANY JOBS THAT HAVE BEEN LOST. BUT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK OVER HISTORY, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IN RESPONSE TO THIS THE PRESIDENT BROUGHT TOGETHER 10 EXPERTS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT DRILLING SHOULD BE STOPPED IN DEEPWATER, OFF THE SHORES OF LOUISIANA. AND THE GULF OF MEXICO, IN FACT. THIS BOARD OF EXPERTS CAME TOGETHER AND SAID, NO, THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. WE SHOULD CONTINUE FORWARD, WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WE CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING. NONETHELESS THE PRESIDENT CAME OUT AND SAID, NO, LET'S SHUT DOWN DRILLING. WELL, WHEN THAT DIDN'T WORK THE PRESIDENT SLAPPED A MORATORIUM AND SECRETARY SALAZAR ON DRILLING. THEN THERE WAS LAWSUITS, THEN WE HAD A DE FACTO MORATORIUM, THEN WE HAD A PERMER TOUM AFTER THERE WAS A STATEMENT PLACED BY THE JUDGE AND TODAY WE HAVE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SLOWITORIUM ON PERMITS AND LEASING IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. SO IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IS THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE ADMINISTRATION CAN'T GET THE COURTS TO STOP DRILLING IN THE GULF OF MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER SIDE CAN'T ADVANCE LEGISLATION, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT ADMINISTRATIVIVELY BY SLOWING THE PROCESS DOWN. SO ALL WE ASK THE PEOPLE OF LOUISIANA IS SOME TRANSPARENCY IN THIS ISSUE AND THIS SECTION 120 DOES, 121 DOES SOME VERY SIMPLE THINGS. IT JUST SAYS THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR SHALL LOG AND TRACK THE SPECIFIC REASONS FOR BOEMRE RETURNING ANY APPLICATION, DEVELOPMENT OPERATION, COORDINATION DOCUMENTS OR APPLICATION, ETC., ETC. WE'RE GETTING REPORTS CONTINUOUSLY FROM DRILLERS, FROM CONTRACTORS WHO ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO DRILL, THAT THEY PUT IN APPLICATIONS WEEKS, MONTHS GO BY, THEY HEAR NOTHING. FINALLY THEY GET IT BACK AND AN I WAS NOT DO THED. SO NOW THEY HAVE TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT INTEGRITY BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THIS PROCESS, THAT THERE BE ACCOUNTABILITY BACK INTO THIS PROCESS AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY -- THE GENTLEMAN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE DO WANT TO GET DRILLING BACK UP IN THE GULF OF MEXICO, WE WERE AT A PEAK OF $1 -- 1.7 MILLION BARRELS A DAY BEFORE THIS INCIDENT. IT DROPPED TO $-- 1.59 MILLION BARRELS A DAY AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DROP BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROCESS IN WHICH PERMITS AND LEASING ARE STILL WAY OFF TRACK. THEY ARE NOT BACK TO THE LEVELS THEY WERE, AND PRODUCTION IS GOING TO NET DOWN. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE OIL AND GAS PRICES GOING UP. DESPITE WHAT'S GOING OUT OF THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR, DRILLING AND PRODUCTION IS NOT UP, IT'S DONE, AND IT'S CONTINUING DOWN AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE UNTIL WE GET THE PERMITS AND LEASES BACK UP. SO I CERTAINLY SUGGEST, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND I SHOULD OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. WE DO NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN BOEMRE WHEN IT COMES TO OFFSHORE DRILLING. MR.

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  • 03:47:18 PM

    MR. MORAN

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 03:47:21 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE GENTLEMAN IS QUITE RIGHT. THERE ARE NOW 1.6 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS QUITE RIGHT. THERE ARE NOW 1.6 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY BEING DRILLED, BUT TO DATE 67 UNTIL SHALLOW -WATER WELL PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE NEW STANDARDS, AND THEY'RE AVERAGING SIX PER MONTH. THE AVERPBLG BEFORE THE DISASTER HAD BEEN EIGHT, SO THEY'RE CATCHING UP. JUST THREE OF THESE PERMITS ARE CURRENTLY PENDING. EIGHT THIS ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION. HAVE NOT BEEN DENIED. TERMS OF DEEP WATER, 75 PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED. THERE ARE 25 PENDING, 22 HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND MOSTLY THAT INFORMATION IS -- WITH REGARD TO CONTAINMENT WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE INSTRUCTED THE BUREAU OF OCEAN AND ENERGY MANAGEMENT TO DO. CAN THEY ASSURE US THAT THEY CAN CONTAIN ANY SPILL? SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE NOT QUITE AS DIRE AS YOU MIGHT BELIEVE.

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  • 03:48:34 PM

    MR. FLEMING

    RECLAIMING MY TIME BRIEFLY, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST WE'RE STILWELL OFFPACE.…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME BRIEFLY, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST WE'RE STILWELL OFFPACE. ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT BEING TO BE A FACTOR.

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  • 03:48:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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  • 03:48:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    WE WANT TO KNOW HOW AND WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. AND THE…

    WE WANT TO KNOW HOW AND WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. AND THE SLOWDOWN AND DRILLING IN THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS HAD A CATASTROPHIC EVENT. SINCE 2008 OVER 60,000 JOBS HAVE BEEN LOST IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AREA. IF WE GET BACK TO THE LEVELS OF DRILLING, OF PERMITTING, BOTH SHALLOW AND DEEP WATER, THAT WE WERE BEFORE THE BLOWOUT, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT AS MANY AS 190,000 JOBS COULD BE CREATED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS WITH ABOUT 400,000 INDUSTRY-SUPPORTED JOBS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES SUPPLYING EQUIPMENT TO THE OFFSHORE OIL INDUSTRY. NO ONE HAS A STRONGER STAKE IN PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT THAN THOSE WHO LIVE THERE. THOSE FOLKS WHO GREAT FOR THESE COMPANIES ARE MY FRIENDS AND MY NEIGHBORS. I'M PROUD TO REPRESENT SO MANY OF THESE COMPANIES. HOUSTON, TEXAS, IS TO THE OIL INDUSTRY WHAT SILICON VALLEY IS TO THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY. THESE ARE SCIENTISTS, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. WHO FISH THERE. WHOSE KIDS PLAY ON THE BEACHES. BEING A HUSTONIAN IN THE GULF, TAR BALLS WERE COMMON ON THE BEACH. YOU JUST DON'T SEE THEM ANYMORE.

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  • 03:49:28 PM

    MR. CULBERSON

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 03:50:48 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 03:50:51 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE GENTLEMAN AND I WORK TOGETHER. I HAVE GREAT REGARD WITH THEM. I JUST…

    THE GENTLEMAN AND I WORK TOGETHER. I HAVE GREAT REGARD WITH THEM. I JUST WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF FACTS AND IF WE HAVE TIME I WILL TRY TO GET YOU MORE TIME. 67 NEW WATER WELL PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS ON JUNE 8, 2010. PERMITS HAVE AVERAGED MORE THAN SIX PER MONTH OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS. COMPARED TO AN AVERAGE OF EIGHT PER MONTH IN 2009. JUST THREE OF THESE PERMITS ARE CURRENTLY PENDING WITH EIGHT HAVING BEEN RETURNED TO THE ON RATOR FOR MORE INFORMATION. -- OPERATOR FOR MORE INFORMATION. WHY CAN'T WE ASK THEM, ON THE ONES THEY'RE DOING THE REPORT, BUT THE ONES THEY HAVE APPROVED, WOULDN'T THE GENTLEMAN HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION?

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  • 03:51:39 PM

    MR. CULBERSON

    WELL, THE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ARE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.…

    WELL, THE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ARE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD. IF -- THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT WE WANT TO SEE THAT LANGUAGE AND WHY IT'S BEEN DENIED. IT SHINES SUNLIGHT IN MANY OF THE CORNERS OF THIS PROCESS. FOR MANY OF THESE PERMITS HAVE BEEN REJECTED FOR REASONS THAT ARE NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE APPLICATION. I'VE SEEN PERMITS THAT ARE REJECTED BECAUSE THE TYPE FACE WASN'T IN THE OPINION OF THE PERMITTER CORRECT. IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN A SLOWDOWN. THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION OVERREACTED TO THE SPILL AND IS DELIBERATELY SLOWED DOWN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND HAS MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR AMERICANS TO FIND AMERICAN OIL AND GAS. AND WE'RE -- WE'RE COMMITTED TO DRILL HERE AND DRILL NOW IN A WAY THAT'S SAFE AND CLEAN, THAT PROTECTS THE ENVIRONMENT BUT YET TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT GOD HAS SO ABUNDANTLY BLESSED THIS CONTINENT WITH. WE HAVE HAD -- IN THE GULF OF MEXICO DEMONSTRATED IT CAN BE DONE CLEANLY AND SAFELY AND THERE'S NO QUICKER WAY TO GENERATE HIGH-PAYING JOBS THAN TO OPEN UP DRILLING IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, PARTICULARLY IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. THOSE RIGS ARE GONE, BY THE WAY, MR. DICKS. ONCE THOSE RIGS LEAVE THE GULF OF MEXICO, THEY DON'T COME BACK. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO MY FRIEND FROM OHIO.

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  • 03:52:59 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    SOMETIMES DURING THE COURSE OF A VERY INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION, THE TRUTH…

    SOMETIMES DURING THE COURSE OF A VERY INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION, THE TRUTH THEN AND FACTS COME OUT. NOW, BOTH THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CITE CHAPTER AND VERSE OF HOW MANY APPLICATIONS HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. TO SUGGEST THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS GOING TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL BURDEN, YOU HAVE TO ADD A LINE. WE DENIED IT BECAUSE. SO I TRUST BASED UPON THE SUNSHINE THAT'S NOW BEEN BROUGHT FORTH BY THE GOOD FACT OF THE RANKING MEMBER, PERHAPS WE COULD GET PASSED THIS AMENDMENT WITHOUT A RECORDED VOTE IN THE INTEREST OF COMITY.

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  • 03:53:41 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

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    MR. DICKS

    WE GET TO DEEP WATER. SINCE IT HAD CONTAINMENT CAPABILITIES IN MID…

    WE GET TO DEEP WATER. SINCE IT HAD CONTAINMENT CAPABILITIES IN MID FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THEY HAVE APPROVED 75 PERMITS FOR 21 UNIQUE WELLS WITH 25 PERMITS PENDING AND 22 PERMITS RETURNED TO THE OPERATOR WITH REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. CAN I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE?

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  • 03:54:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR…

    OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

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  • 03:54:09 PM

    MR. DICKS

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WILL YIELD. PARTICULARLY REGARDING CONTAINMENT. NOW, WE…

    IF THE GENTLEMAN WILL YIELD. PARTICULARLY REGARDING CONTAINMENT. NOW, WE WANT TO DO THIS SAFELY. WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH.

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  • 03:54:17 PM

    MR. CULBERSON

    OF COURSE. CLEANLY, SAFELY.

  • 03:54:19 PM

    MR. DICKS

    BUT I JUST HOPE WE CAN HAVE REPORTS THAT NOT ONLY -- ABOUT THE ONES THAT…

    BUT I JUST HOPE WE CAN HAVE REPORTS THAT NOT ONLY -- ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE TURNED BACK, AS YOU SAY, MAYBE THE OTHER ONES ARE PART OF A PUBLIC RECORD. I THINK THE REPORT SHOULD COME BACK WITH BOTH OF THESE, IF IT'S GOING TO COME TO THE CONGRESS, YOU KNOW HOW THIS PLACE WORKS. NOT EVERYBODY SEES THESE PUBLIC RECORDS. IF THESE REPORTS ARE GOING TO BE USED BY THE COMMITTEE, WE OUGHT TO HAVE BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUAGS. -- EQUATION.

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  • 03:54:49 PM

    MR. CULBERSON

    WE AGREE THAT SUNSHINE IS A PERFECT THING. WITH RESPECT, IT'S IMPORTANT…

    WE AGREE THAT SUNSHINE IS A PERFECT THING. WITH RESPECT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE HOUSE REJECT THIS AMENDMENT SO WE CAN HAVE SUNLIGHT IN EVERY CORNER OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE PUBLIC AND THE CONGRESS CAN KNOW WHY THESE PERMITS HAVE BEEN DELAYED OR DENIED SO WE CAN OPEN THE GULF OF MEXICO TO DRILL HERE AND DRILL NOW CLEANLY AND SAFELY. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:55:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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  • 03:55:12 PM

    MS. BROWN

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 03:55:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 03:55:17 PM

    MS. BROWN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF AMERICANS, I JUST CAN'T ACT…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF AMERICANS, I JUST CAN'T ACT LIKE BUSINESS AS USUAL. I'M VERY UPSET THAT THE F.A.A. IS SHUT DOWN. AND LET ME JUST TELL EVERYONE THAT HOUSE BILL 2644 BY COSTELLO WAS FILED YESTERDAY. IT IS A CLEAN RE-AUTHORIZATION OF THE F.A.A. BILL. SATURDAY MORNING AT MIDNIGHT FILING 20 PREVIOUS CLEAN EXTENSIONS FUNDING FOR THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION HAS EXPIRED. WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? SIMPLY BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S LACK OF LEADERSHIP OVER THE DEBT CEILING DEBATE IS THE SAME AS THIS POSITION WITH F.A.A. BUT OVER 4,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LAID OFF AND OVER 3,000 IN FLORIDA. GOOD CONSTRUCTION JOBS. JUST LAST NIGHT I SPOKE WITH A SINGLE MOTHER FROM KANSAS WHO HAD TO GIVE TWO CHILDREN EVICTION NOTICE TO HER APARTMENT BECAUSE SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY HER BILLS BECAUSE OF THIS IMPASSE. THIS -- THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE, AND I REPEAT, THE REASON THAT THE F.A.A. EXTENSION LAS NOT BEEN RENEWED IS BECAUSE THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE INSERTED LANGUAGE IN THE F.A.A. BILL EXTENDING THE BILL THAT WOULD END THE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES RURAL AREA AIRPORT SUBSIDIES. SO, YES, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY , IF YOU DON'T DO IT MY WAY THEN WE'LL JUST SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN. BUT LET ME BE CLEAR. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN THE CAPITOL THAT FLEW UP AND THEY PAID, LET'S SAY $500 FOR THEIR TICKET, WELL, THE AVIATION STILL CHARGED THE $500 BUT THE MONEY THAT GOES TO FIX UP THE AIRPORT, THAT MONEY IS GOING NOW TO THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY. AND IN FACT, THEY HAVE RAISED THE TICKET PRICE. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE DON'T DO OUR JOB THE PEOPLE GET HURT. AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT EVERYBODY IS SO NERVOUS ABOUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE SHOULD DO ABOUT RAISING THE TAX -- DEBT CEILING. I SPOKE TO THE LONGSHOREMEN ON MONDAY AND ASKED THEM, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD IT BEFORE? NOT ONE PERSON. WELL, DID YOU KNOW I VOTED FOR IT SEVEN TIMES UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH? THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. FOUR TIMES UNDER PRESIDENT CLINTON AND 19 TIMES UNDER RONALD REAGAN. BUT YET WE GOT PEOPLE THAT WERE -- WILL BRING DOWN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR WAY. IT'S OUR WAY OR NOT AT ALL. YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH WHERE WE HAD EIGHT YEARS OF WHAT I CALL REVERSE ROBIN HOOD. ROBBING FROM THE POOR AND WORKING TO GIVE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH. WE DID THE SAME THING IN DECEMBER. $70 BILLION WE GAVE, $70 BILLION TO THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND NOW PEOPLE ARE CALLING MY OFFICE WANTING TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG IN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE THAT WE ARE HAVING SENIORS AND -- SENIOR CITIZENS WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK OR WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEIR VETERANS CHECK BUT YET WE CAN'T INCLUDE THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. AND WE GOT PEOPLE OVER HERE FROM LOUISIANA THAT WE'VE GIVEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT YET WE WANT TO CLOSE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OTHER AREAS WHEN WE HAVE DISASTERS. WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT A BUDGET IS ABOUT. THE BUDGET DETERMINES YOUR PRIORITIES, AND IT'S A SAD DAY IN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS HOUSE THAT DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE NEXT ELECTION. WELL, I CAN TRULY SAY THAT YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME. AND SO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS AT THE F.A.A. BECAUSE OF POLITICS, WAKE UP. THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT IT'S OK TO ROB SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICAID, MEDICARE, WAKE UP. EDUCATION. YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION AND THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE GOING TO WAKE UP AND THEY'RE GOING TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD OR MOVE BEHIND AND CLEARLY WE GOT PEOPLE IN CHARGE THAT'S ONLY INTERESTED IN PUSHING US BEHIND. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:00:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM FLORIDA WREELEDS BACK HER TIME. WHO SEEKS -- YIELDS BACK HER TIME.…

    FROM FLORIDA WREELEDS BACK HER TIME. WHO SEEKS -- YIELDS BACK HER TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:00:28 PM

    MR. LANDRY

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD, MR. CHAIRMAN.

  • 04:00:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. LANDRY

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK HIS TIME?

  • 04:02:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK HIS TIME?

  • 04:02:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. THOSE…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 04:02:35 PM

    THE CLERK

    SQUARE FEET OF LAND WITHIN THE NATIONAL MONUMENT. SELF-DETERMINATION…

    SQUARE FEET OF LAND WITHIN THE NATIONAL MONUMENT. SELF-DETERMINATION DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, SECTION 123, THE DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS SHALL REINSTATE THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FOR THE INDIAN TRIBES. WILD LANDS FUNDING PROHIBITION, SECTION 124, NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE USED TO IMPLEMENT SECRETARY AL ORDER NUMBER 3310 ISSUED BY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR ON DECEMBER 22, 2010.

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  • 04:03:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

  • 04:03:22 PM

    MR. MORAN

    RISE WITH AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA. PAGE 64, BEGINNING ON LINE 15…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. MORAN OF VIRGINIA. PAGE 64, BEGINNING ON LINE 15 STRIKE SECTION 124.

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  • 04:03:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:03:41 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, AS THE AMENDMENT STATES, I SEEK TO STRIKE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, AS THE AMENDMENT STATES, I SEEK TO STRIKE SECTION 124 OF THIS BILL. BECAUSE SECTION 124 PROHIBITS EXPENDITURES FOR THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO CARRY OUT ITS LAWFUL DUTIES UNDER THE FEDERAL LAND POLICY AND MANAGEMENT ACT OF 1976. SECRETARY SALAZAR ISSUED AN ORDER APPROPRIATELY, IT WAS CALLED 3310, AND IT STATED A POLICY THAT B.L.M., THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, SHOULD ACT CONSISTENTLY WITH THE LAW. SECTION 201 OF THE LAW, THE FEDERAL LAND POLICY AND MANAGEMENT ACT, REQUIRES THAT THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT MAINTAIN A CURRENT INVENTORY OF LAND UNDER ITS JURISDICTION AND THAT IT IDENTIFY WITHIN THAT INVENTORY OF LAND THE RESOURCE VALUES INCLUDING WILDERNESSES OF THOSE LANDS. NOW, SECTION 101 OF THE FEDERAL LAND POLICY ACT ALSO SAYS THAT CERTAIN PUBLIC LANDS SHOULD BE MAINTAINED IN THEIR NATURAL STATE AND I QUOTE, NOW THAT'S THE LAW. IT'S BEEN LAW SINCE 1976. SECRETARY SALAZAR IS SIMPLY ATTEMPTING TO IMPLEMENT THAT LAW. NOW, DESPITE WHAT SOME HAVE CLAIMED, SECRETARY SALAZAR'S ORDER DOES NOT CREATE ANY DE FACTO WILDERNESS. THE REASON THAT I WOULD STRIKE SECTION 124 IS THAT IT WILL THEN RETURN B.L.M. WILDERNESS POLICY TO THE WAY THAT IT HAS OPERATED FOR 27 YEARS. UNTIL IT WAS UNILATERALLY CHANGED BY THEN INTERIOR SECRETARY NORTON IN 2003 IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. NOW, THE ORDER THAT SECRETARY SALAZAR HAS ISSUED DIRECTS B.L.M. TO DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS REGARDING WILDERNESS LAND DESIGNATIONS AND IT DIRECTS PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW, WHAT COULD BE WRONG WITH THAT? MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS AND HAVE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. BUT SECTION 124 OF THIS BILL REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. WHY ARE WE AFRAID OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT? AND IT ALSO REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS. NOW WHY DOES THIS BILL WANT TO PREVENT THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR FROM MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS AND FOR HAVING PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT? NOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO PREVENT THE CONGRESS FROM DESIGNATING WILDERNESS. WHAT IT DOES DO IS TO PREVENT THE CONGRESS FROM BEING PROPERLY INFORMED BEFORE WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE DESIGNATIONS. SO THE SECRETARY'S ORDER IS THE KIND OF GOOD GOVERNMENT PROCESS THAT ENCOURAGES PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND FORWARD THINKING . AS A DEMONSTRATION OF THAT FORWARD THINKING SECRETARY SL CZAR REACHED OUT TO THE CONGRESS -- SECRETARY SALAZAR REACHED OUT TO THE CONGRESS IN JUNE, JUST A SHORT WHILE AGO, AND ASKED FOR MEMBERS' INPUT INTO THE WILDERNESS CHARACTERISTICS OF LANDS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANT HIM TO DO? REACH OUT TO THE CONGRESS, ASK FOR OUR INPUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN ASK FROM THE SECRETARY OR FROM THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT BUT AN OPEN, PUBLIC PROCESS WITH CONGRESSIONAL INPUT. BUT THIS SECTION THAT I THINK SHOULD BE STRUCK, THIS SECTION 124, WANTS TO FORECLOSE THAT PROCESS, FOR CLOSE THAT OPEN PUBLIC PROCESS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS. NOW, IT WAS A PROCESS THAT THE MAJORITY IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT APPLAUDED. LET ME SAY FURTHER THAT WILD LANDS DO HAVE REAL BENEFITS. THEY HAVE ECONOMIC, THEY HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THEY HAVE AESTHETIC BENEFITS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT NOT ONLY PUBLIC LAND AND ITS NATURAL STATE BUT THAT WE PROTECT OUR ABILITY TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH AREAS SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE DESIGNATED AS WILDERNESS AREAS. DO I THINK WE NEED THE SECRETARY ORDER SO THAT WE CAN BE INFORMED, SO WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS WITH REGARD TO THOSE DESIGNATIONS. WILDERNESS AREAS ARE IMPORTANT BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THAT THE SECRETARY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, FOR US TO MAKE THE DESIGNATION AND THAT IT BE A PUBLIC PROCESS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 04:08:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RISE?

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  • 04:09:08 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:09:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:09:13 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    I APPRECIATE VERY KINDLY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND HIS EXPLANATION…

    I APPRECIATE VERY KINDLY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND HIS EXPLANATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION THAT'S IN THE BILL. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT QUITE THAT WAY. YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF THIS IS THAT IN JUNE THE SECRETARY ASK FOR OUR INPUT AS TO WILDERNESS WHICH IS INDEED EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD DO IF HE WANTS TO OBEY THE LAW. THAT IS THE PROPER COURSE. ONLY CONGRESS HAS THE ABILITY TO DESIGNATE WILDERNESS AREAS. YOU SAID THAT THE PROVISION THAT'S IN THE BILL WOULD FORECLOSE THAT PROCESS. IN FACT, YOU'RE ARGUING THE EXACT OPPOSITE. THIS PROVISION IN THE BILL DOES NOT ALLOW THE SECRETARY TO GO AROUND THAT PROCESS BUT INSISTS THAT HE DOES COMAND WORK WITH CONGRESS -- COME AND WORK WITH CONGRESS TO DO ANY KIND OF LAND DESIGNATION AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE LAW. SECRETARY SALAZAR AND DEPUTY SECRETARY HAYES AND B.L.M. DIRECTOR HAVE ALL ASSURED US THAT THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO IMPLEMENT THIS ILL-ADVISED POLICY THEY ESTABLISHED JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS, A SECRETARY ORDER THAT USURPED CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND CONGRESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD. UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, THE ORDER HAS NEVER BEEN WITHDRAWN OFFICIALLY. IT HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED. A PROMISED SOLICITOR GENERAL'S OPINION TO CLARIFY THE LEGAL STATUS OF THAT SUPERSEDING OF THE OPINION HAS BEEN PROMISED US, IT WAS PROMISED TO THE CHAIRMAN, PROMISED TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE, YESTERDAY AT A HEARING WE ASKED WHERE THAT WAS AND WE WERE TOLD ONCE AGAIN THAT IT'S ON ITS WAY. WHAT WAS SAID AT THAT HEARING OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT THEY WILL DO IS NOTHING CONTRARY TO THE PROVISION THAT WAS PLACED IN THE C.R.. THEREFORE IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT IN THE FORM, TRUST BUT VERIFY, CONTINUE THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY CLAIM THEY WILL DO WILL BE DONE AND THERE IS NO LEGAL WAY OF GETTING AROUND IT. NOW, I SAY THAT LEGAL PROCESS FOR A PURPOSE. EVEN IF I TRUST THE WORD OF THE SECRETARY AND I DO, IF THIS PROVISION IS IN SOME WAY LEGALLY IN DOUBT, NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THE OPINION IS CLEAR WITH US, IT IS IN DOUBT, IN A LITIGATION-PRONE SOCIETY LIKE WE HAVE, ANY KIND OF RADICAL ACTIVIST MAY ASK A RENEGADE JUT JUDGE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES TO -- A RENEGADE JUDGE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES TO INTERVENE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT CONGRESSMAN LUMMIS' INCLUSION OF THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE. IT WOULD OPPOSE ANY KIND OF A ROUND-ABOUT PROCESS OF GOING AROUND CONGRESS AND ALLOWING THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO AROUND NEPA AND AROUND WHAT THE ORIGINAL ORDER DID. IT IS NOT THAT WE DON'T ARE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THIS PROCESS -- IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THIS PROCESS, IT'S SIMPLY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR. IF WE AGREE AND BELIEVE WHAT THE SECRETARY'S SAYING, THEN THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE HAS NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER. IT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED BY ALL OF US. IF, THOUGH, YOU WANT TO TRY AND HAVE SOME KIND OF DANGLING ASPECT OUT THERE SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN SUE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE AND MAYBE CHANGE THE ENTIRE PROCESS, THEN CREATE DOUBT AND ACTUALLY WITHDRAW LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE C.R., THAT WAS APROVED BY THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS CONSISTENCY SO THAT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA SAID WILL INDEED HAPPEN. THAT IF WILDERNESS IS DESIGNATED IT WILL BE DONE BY CONGRESS, IT IS OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO DO IT. AND THAT NO ONE CAN DO THESE EVALUATIONS, WHICH ARE LEGAL UNDER FIP MA, -- WHICH ARE LEGALLY DONE, THAT THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN AND INDEED IF YOU DO THAT, THAT IS AN ABROGATION OF THE LAW. NOW, ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE PROCESS HERE, YOU LEAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, IT'S NO HARM, IT'S NO FOUL, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR SAID THEIR POLICY WILL BE. YOU TAKE THIS LANGUAGE OUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE CREATED A DOUBT, FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS A GOOD ATTORNEY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT DOUBT CREATES A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND ESPECIALLY FOR US IN CONGRESS. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:13:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION?…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 04:13:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:13:52 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING OFFERED IS PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE. IT'S THE DUTY…

    THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING OFFERED IS PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE. IT'S THE DUTY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR TO CARRY OUT THE LAW. THE LAW REQUIRES THE SECRETARY TO REVIEW FROM TIME TO TIME THE STATUS OF PUBLIC LAND. ALL TOO OFTEN I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE SAY THAT THIS IS GOVERNMENT LAND. NO, NO, NO, THIS IS NOT GOVERNMENT LAND. THIS IS OUR LAND. THIS IS THE LAND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. OWNED IN COMMON FOR THE COMMON GOOD. AND THE SECRETARY CARRYING OUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY REVIEWS THE ART BEAUTS OF THE LAND -- ATTRIBUTES OF THE LAND. IS IT GOOD FOR OIL? HOW ABOUT GAS DEVELOPMENT OR COAL DEVELOPMENT? OR MAYBE IT'S USEFUL AS GRAZING LAND. OR PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE WILD AND SCENIC LAND AND PRESERVED FOR THAT PURPOSE OF REMAINING IN ITS MOST NATURAL STATE. SO, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES COME UP AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THE LAND, YOU CAN'T STUDY THE LAND, WE JUST WON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAND. EXCEPT TO ALLOW FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE LAND. THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT DOESN'T COME IN A VACUUM. THIS AMENDMENT FALLS OR ACTUALLY LEADS TO THE HOUSE FLOOR ANOTHER BILL THAT IS LIKELY TO MOVE OUT OF THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND SOON BE ON THE FLOOR. WHICH WOULD TAKE THE PREVIOUS WORK DONE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT WOULD QUANTIFY THE VALUES OF THE LAND, SCENIC, NATURAL, WILDERNESS, AND PUSH ALL OF THAT ASIDE AND SAY, OPEN ALL THE LAND , ALL THE LAND TO WHAT WAS CALLED MECKNIESED CONSERVATION. -- MECHANIZED CONSERVATION. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE BULLDOZERS, DRILLING RIGS, STAMPEDE OF CATTLE AND THE LIKE OVER ANY AND ALL LAND. UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PARTICULAR LINE IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL GOES HAND IN HAND WITH A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WENT THROUGH THAT WAS HEARD IN THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE JUST YESTERDAY. THAT WOULD TAKE ALL OF THE LAND THAT'S BEEN DESIGNATED AS WILD AND SCENIC, SOME 30 YEARS AGO, SOME OF WHICH HAS SAID, NO, IT'S NOT PERFECT FOR A WILD AND SCENIC DESIGNATION, AND TAKE ALL OF THAT LAND AND OPEN IT FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE OUGHT NOT DO THAT. AND THEREFORE THIS AMENDMENT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE RANKING MEMBER, IT IS APPROPRIATE IN THAT IT ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR TO UPGRADE SOME 30-YEAR-OLD STUDIES, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT NEW SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION, NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAND AND MAKING THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US IN CONGRESS SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT WHETHER LAND SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE WILD AND SCENIC OR WHATEVER DESIGNATION MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. INCLUDING OPENING SOME LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT. BUT I SUPPOSE IT'S BEST TO KNOW NOTHING. I WOULD LOVE TO YIELD BRIEFLY AND IF I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO RESPOND, PERHAPS YOU COULD YIELD TO ME.

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  • 04:17:32 PM

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    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING. I THINK -- I UNDERSTAND THE…

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING. I THINK -- I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS AND I KNOW THE HEARING YESTERDAY ADDRESSES THE ISSUE WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THIS.

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  • 04:17:44 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    AND, LISTEN, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DEBATE, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.…

    AND, LISTEN, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DEBATE, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THIS ISSUE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER THAT TO THE CREDIT OF SECRETARY SALAZAR THEY WITHDREW. IT WAS CONFIRMED BY THE WAY TO BE WITHDRAWN BECAUSE OF THE C.R. WE PASSED THAT TAKES US THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, THE SECRETARY SAID HE'S GOING TO ABIDE BY THAT. BUT AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, THE ORDER HAS NOT BEEN WITHDRAWN. THIS DEBATE HERE IS ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING. SO UNTIL WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT ORDER OR THE ORDER IS WITHDRAWN, THIS LANGUAGE IS APPROPRIATE. AND THAT'S SIMPLY ALL WE'RE SAYING. NOW, WE CAN GET INTO A DISCUSSION WHETHER YOU SHOULD HAVE -- A DISCUSSION WHETHER WILD LANDS IS IN FACT A DESIGNATION OR NOT AND AS A MATTER OF FACT WILD LANDS HAS NO DEFINITION WHATSOEVER ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO THIS QUESTION ON OUR SIDE OBVIOUSLY IS IF THEY CAN EVEN DO THAT BECAUSE WILD LANDS MAY BE SYNONYMOUS WITH LILLEDWILEDERNESS BUT WILDERNESS CAN ONLY BE DESIGNATED -- BUT WILDERNESS CAN ONLY BE DESIGNATED BY THE CONGRESS. I SAY TO THE CREDIT OF THE SECRETARY --

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  • 04:18:57 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MY…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MY APOLOGIES FOR INTERPRETING YOU -- INTERRUPTING YOU.

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  • 04:19:05 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I ASK ONE MORE MINUTE SO THE GENTLEMAN CAN FINISH HIS REMARKS.

  • 04:19:10 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    PERHAPS IT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU WOULD STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND WE HAVE…

    PERHAPS IT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU WOULD STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO DEBATE.

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  • 04:19:15 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I WAS NOT GOING TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I WAS JUST GOING TO RESPOND TO…

    I WAS NOT GOING TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I WAS JUST GOING TO RESPOND TO THE GENTLEMAN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

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  • 04:19:23 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    THE ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT ACCOMMODATION. I THINK THE UNDERLYING…

    THE ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT ACCOMMODATION. I THINK THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM WAS WELL DESCRIBED BY YOU AND THAT IS THAT THE LANGUAGE PROHIBITS THE SECRETARY FROM GOING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY OF THE WILD LANDS. I THINK THAT'S WRONG. . WHAT HAS CHANGED AND WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AS WE GO FORWARD.

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  • 04:19:47 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    GENTLEMAN REMEMBERS ON A DIRECT QUESTIONING, I THINK WHAT THE DIRECTOR…

    GENTLEMAN REMEMBERS ON A DIRECT QUESTIONING, I THINK WHAT THE DIRECTOR SAID THERE WAS NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE ANY DESIGNATION UNDER LAW OF WILD LANDS BECAUSE THAT WAS A MADE-UP TERM. THERE WAS NO DESIGNATION -- THE INVENTORY, YES. BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE UP A NEW DESIGNATION AND THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. AND HE TESTIFIED THAT HE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.

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  • 04:20:15 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    ARE DOWN TO PARSING WORDS. THE ATTEMPT UNDERTAKEN BY THE SECRETARY WAS TO…

    ARE DOWN TO PARSING WORDS. THE ATTEMPT UNDERTAKEN BY THE SECRETARY WAS TO STUDY THE LANDS FOR THEIR WILDLAND VALUES. HE COULDN'T DESIGNATE A WILDLAND BUT THE STUDY COULD GIVE US INFORMATION AND TO DECIDE SCENIC --

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  • 04:20:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

  • 04:20:42 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:20:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:20:47 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    IS ALWAYS FASCINATING. IF RHETORIC WERE FAST FOOD, IT WOULD BE GOLDEN…

    IS ALWAYS FASCINATING. IF RHETORIC WERE FAST FOOD, IT WOULD BE GOLDEN ARCHES OVERALL OF THESE DOORS BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD SO MUCH RHETORIC IN MY LIFE AND I HOPE THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY READ FROM THE REPORT. MAYBE HE DID AND MAYBE THINKS PAGES GOT STUCK TOGETHER. HE SAYS WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LANDS AND THE DESIGNATIONS. WE JUST WANT TO USE THEM UP AND ALL THAT KIND OF DID YOU. LET ME READ FOR THE RECORD WHAT THE REPORT SAYS. AS MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS REPORT, THE COMMITTEE LODGED THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR FOR WILDLAND POLICY AND THE BUREAU HAS BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 CONTINUING RESOLUTION PROHIBITING FUNDS FOR THE USE OF SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310, WHICH WAS TO DESIGNATE AND AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID I COULDN'T DESIGNATE WILDLANDS BECAUSE THAT POLICY DOESN'T EXIST. WHILE THE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING THE INPUT OF CONGRESS, THE COMMITTEE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERNAL DIRECTION GIVEN BY THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT REGARDING THE INVENTORY OF LANDS MANAGED BY THE BUREAU. INVENTORIES OF BUREAU LANDS ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE FEDERAL LAND POLICY AND MANAGEMENT ACT OF 1976 AND THE COMMITTEE AGREES -- THE COMMITTEE AGREES THIS READING -- WITH THIS READING OF THE FACT. THE COMMITTEE POINTS OUT THAT INVENTORY SHOULD COVER MULTIPLE USES. THE VALUES TO BE ASSESSED INCLUDE WILDLIFE, FISH HABITAT, NONMOTOR RISED, HUNTING, FISHING, GRAZING, CONVENTIONAL AND RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT, MINING, WILDERNESS CHARACTER, FOREST MANAGEMENT. ALL OF THESE VALUES ARE IMPORTANT AND ONE VALUE DOES NOT SUPERSEDE THE OTHER AND THE COMMITTEE DIRECTS THE BUREAU TO USE THE DEFINITION OF WILDERNESS IN THE 1964 WILDERNESS ACT. THE COMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE ITS OVERSIGHT OF THIS ISSUE. THE SECRETARY HAS DONE THE RIGHT THING BY WITHDRAWING HIS POLICY OF WILDLANDS DESIGNATION, A DESIGNATION THAT HE MADE UP. ONLY CONGRESS CAN DESIGNATE A NEW LAND -- NEW LAND DESIGNATION. THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS DOES. THE SECRETARY AGREED WITH THAT, WITHDREW IT. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO ON WITH THE INVENTORIES FOR ALL OF THE CHARACTERS OF PUBLIC LANDS. SO THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS RELATIVE TO ALL WE CARE ABOUT MINING AND FLATENING LAND AND WHATEVER HE SAID IS JUST RHETORIC. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. THE REALITY IS IF THE SECRETARY CARRIERS OUT WHAT HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO DO, THIS AMENDMENT PROBABLY ISN'T NECESSARY. IF THEY DECIDE TO REVERSE COURSE, THEN IT WAS NECESSARY. IT'S ABSOLUTELY -- WON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH SAID. I WILL BE HAPPY TO YIELD. MR.

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  • 04:23:55 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, I THOUGHT THE…

    THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, I THOUGHT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDED TO DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO AND, HOWEVER, THE POINT IS THAT THE LANGUAGE YOU PUT INTO THIS BILL WOULD PRECLUDE THE SECRETARY FROM MOVING FORWARD EVEN TO CARRY OUT THE WORDS THAT ARE IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. AND I DID READ THE DOCUMENT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS ON THE LAND. WE KNOW NEED TO KNOW ITS POTENTIAL USES. THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU PUT FORWARD THAT WOULD DENY THE FUNDING FOR THOSE PURPOSES TO DO THE STUDY. IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT INTENT AND EFFECT OF THE AMENDMENT, THEN WE HAVE HAD A WONDERFUL DEBATE IN WHICH WE ALL AGREE THAT THE SECRETARY AND DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR SHOULD CONTINUE TO ALWAYS STUDY THE LAND AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NEW INFORMATION, NEW SCIENCE, NO KNOWLEDGE, NEW G.P.S. OR SATELLITE PHOTOS OF THE LAND. I THINK, AS I UNDERSTAND THE AMENDMENT AND INTENT OF THE AMENDMENT, IT IS TO STOP THE DEPARTMENT FROM CONTINUING TO STUDY THESE MULTIPLE AT TRY BEAUTIES.

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  • 04:25:02 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MY TIME. THE SECRETARIAL ORDER WHICH IS IN QUESTION NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN…

    MY TIME. THE SECRETARIAL ORDER WHICH IS IN QUESTION NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN AND THEN HE NEEDS TO ISSUE A NEW ONE, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS DESIGNATION OF WILDLANDS, BECAUSE THAT STILL STANDS OUT THERE EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS HE ISN'T GOING TO DESIGNATE ANY NEW WILLEDLANDS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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  • 04:25:25 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    COMES UNDER THE REGULATION, WHICH IS NOT CHANGED BY THIS AMENDMENT. THIS…

    COMES UNDER THE REGULATION, WHICH IS NOT CHANGED BY THIS AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT ONLY DEALS WITH THE CATEGORY THAT WAS CALLED WILDLANDS, WHICH IS A MADE-UP CATEGORY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY LAW. IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THE SECRETARY CAN STILL DO INVENTORIES BUT NOT A LOUD TO DO INVENTORY FOR ONE CHARACTERISTIC. THEY CAN INVENTORY FOR ALL CHARACTERISTICS.

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  • 04:25:53 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    AMENDMENT DEALS WITH THE SECRETARIAL ORDER, NOT JUST WILDLANDS.

  • 04:25:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

  • 04:26:02 PM

    MR. DICKS

    STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

  • 04:26:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DICKS

    PROHIBITS EXPENDITURES FOR THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO CARRY OUT ITS…

    PROHIBITS EXPENDITURES FOR THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO CARRY OUT ITS DUTIES UNDER SECTION 201 OF THE FEDERAL LAND POLICY AND MANAGEMENT ACT OF 1976. SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310 STATES, A POLICY THAT THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT SHALL ACT CONSISTENTLY. AND MAINTAIN A CURRENT INVENTORY OF LAND UNDER ITS JURISDICTION AND IDENTIFY WITHIN THAT INVENTORY THE RESOURCE VALUES, INCLUDING WILDERNESS OF THOSE LANDS DESPITE OF WHAT SOME HAVE CLAIMED DOES NOT CREATE DEFACTO WILDERNESS AND RETURNS POLICY TO THE WAY IT OPERATED FOR 27 YEARS BEFORE BEING CHANGED BY THEN INTERIOR SECRETARY GAIL NORTON IN 2003. IT DIRECTS THE B.L.M. TO DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONGRESS REGARDING WILDERNESS LAND DESIGNATION AND DIRECTS PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SECTION 124R REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE B.L.M. TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONGRESS. SECTION 124 DOESN'T PREVENT CONGRESS FROM DESIGNATING WILDERNESS BUT PREVENTS US FROM BEING PROPERLY INFORMED BEFORE WE CONSIDER THESE DESIGNATIONS. SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310 IS THE KIND OF GOOD GOVERNMENT PROCESS THAT ENCOURAGED PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND FORWARD THINKING. AS A DEMONSTRATION OF THAT FORWARD THINKING, THE SECRETARY REACHED OUT TO CONGRESS IN JUNE ASKING FOR MEMBERS' INPUT INTO THE WILDERNESS CHARACTERISTICS OF LAND WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN ASK FROM THE B.L.M. AND THE SECRETARY IN AN OPEN PUBLIC PROCESS. SECTION 124 SEEKS TO FORECLOSE THAT PROCESS, A PROCESS THAT THE MAJORITY IN THE COMMITTEE APPLAUDED. THESE WILDLANDS HAVE REAL BENEFIT, ECONOMIC, ENVIRONMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT PUBLIC LAND IN ITS NATURAL STATE BUT OUR ABILITY TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT AREAS SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE DESIGNATED WILLED DEERNESS. WE NEED THE -- WILL DEERNESS. WE NEED THE SECRETARIAL ORDER. AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 04:28:37 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON DOING SO. IT'S USEFUL TO READ AND THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON DOING SO. IT'S USEFUL TO READ AND THE CHARACTERISTIC OF ORDER NUMBER 3310, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT MATTER WAS WELL DESCRIBED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. IF ONE WERE TO READ THE ORDER, THE ORDER BASICALLY DIRECTS THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO CONTINUE TO DO ITS STUDIES WITH THE PURPOSE OF IDENTIFYING THOSE LANDS. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I RAISED MY FIRST POINT THAT THIS PARTICULAR SECTION THAT IS IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL, SECTION 124 FITS DIRECTLY WITH THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WAS AUTHORED BY MR. MCCARTHY AND HEARD IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE YESTERDAY AND THAT IS TO TERMINATE EFFORTS TO CREATE WILDERNESS AREAS IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT OPENING LANDS TO DEVELOPMENT AND TO PROHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT FROM EXERCISING ITS AUTHORITY UNDER THE LAW TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE AND TO ANNUALIZE -- ANALYZE ALL LAND FOR THE VALUE OF ITS CHARACTERISTICS. THIS CLAUSE 124 IN THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL RUNS DIRECTLY COUNTER TO THE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE EXISTING LAW THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT TO CARRY OUT ITS RESPONSIBILITIES.

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  • 04:30:09 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELD?

  • 04:30:13 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    NOT MY POINT.

  • 04:30:17 PM

    MR. DICKS

    YIELD? I YIELD TO THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN WHO I JUST HEARD A FEW…

    YIELD? I YIELD TO THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN WHO I JUST HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO PRAISING SECRETARY SALAZAR IN THE WAY HE CONDUCTS HIMSELF AND HE IS A GOOD MAN. AND NOW 3310 IS PART OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFEST TOE.

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  • 04:30:39 PM

    >>

    WAS A PROBLEM WITH SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310.

  • 04:30:48 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THIS AMENDMENT?

  • 04:30:52 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    IT HURT? IT DOESN'T HURT A THING. WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS SUGGESTING IS THAT…

    IT HURT? IT DOESN'T HURT A THING. WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS SUGGESTING IS THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY SAYING YOU CAN'T FOLLOW SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310, THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENT OF THE INVENTORY OF THESE LANDS. THEY HAVE TO DO THE INVENTORY OF THE LANDS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A SECRETARIAL ORDER 3310.

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  • 04:31:14 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    RECLAIM MY TIME.

  • 04:31:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 04:31:21 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

  • 04:31:28 PM

    MR. DICKS

    TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. GARAMENDI

    IT'S USEFUL TO READ THE SECRETARIAL ORDER RATHER THAN ALL THE HOOPLA OF…

    IT'S USEFUL TO READ THE SECRETARIAL ORDER RATHER THAN ALL THE HOOPLA OF WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. IT SAYS THE B.L.M. SHALL DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE WILLED DEERNESS CHARACTERISTICS. THAT IS THE LAW. IT SAYS THAT'S WHAT IT IS DOING.

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  • 04:31:57 PM

    MR. DICKS

    THAT THIS PROVISION SAYS HE SHOULDN'T FOLLOW THE LAW?

  • 04:32:04 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    ARE SAYING NOT TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    IS ABSURD TO THINK REPEALING A SECRETARIAL ORDER THAT DOES NOT SUPERSEDE…

    IS ABSURD TO THINK REPEALING A SECRETARIAL ORDER THAT DOES NOT SUPERSEDE FEDERAL LAW CHANGES THE UNDERLYING LAW. MR.

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  • 04:32:20 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    MY TIME. IN FACT, THE SECRETARIAL ORDER DOES FOLLOW THE LAW. IT PRECISELY…

    MY TIME. IN FACT, THE SECRETARIAL ORDER DOES FOLLOW THE LAW. IT PRECISELY FOLLOWS THE LAW. TCHOIP THE --

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  • 04:32:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S TIME HAS…

    THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S TIME HAS EXPIRED WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WYOMING.

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  • 04:32:44 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:32:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WYOMING IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:32:50 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    A MOMENT OF MY TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

  • 04:32:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:32:58 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    WANT IT BUT THANK YOU. LET ME JUST SIMPLY TRY AND COME UP WITH THIS ONE…

    WANT IT BUT THANK YOU. LET ME JUST SIMPLY TRY AND COME UP WITH THIS ONE LAST TIME. THE IDEA OF INVENTORY IS COVERED IN FLITMA. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. THE SECRETARIAL ORDER IS A NEW POLICY, THAT HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED BY ANOTHER SECRETARIAL ORDER. IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE -- ON THINK THIS WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY SAYS IT IS UNNECESSARY GIVEN THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICY INCLUDES COLLABORATION WITH STAKE HOLDERS TO IDENTIFY PUBLIC LANDS THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE. THE ADMINISTRATION'S NOT FIGHTING THIS THING. THEY'RE ONBOARD WITH IT. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, THE REASON YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE UNTIL, UNTIL THE SUPERSITION HAS TAKEN PLACE AND THE ENTIRE THINGS IS -- THING IS REPLACED IS IN CASE SOMEONE WANTS TO LITIGATE OUTSIDE OF IT AND TRY TO FORCE THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR TO DO SOMETHING IT SAID IT WOULD NOT DO. ALL THE ARGUMENTS IN HERE ARE EXTRANEOUS. IT'S RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER ADMINISTRATION, DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT WHATSOEVER. THIS IS SIMPLY SAYING WHAT THE POLICY IS AND WHAT THE POLICY THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WILL BE SUBSTANTIATED IN THE STATUTE IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO PLAY AROUND WITH IT. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLELADY FROM WYOMING.

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  • 04:34:12 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THE POINT IS THIS. THE ADMINISTRATION…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THE POINT IS THIS. THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT OBJECT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TO THE LANGUAGE OF MY AMENDMENT. THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IF IT WERE REPEALED WOULD ALLOW IT TO FUNCTION AS IT IS DESIGNED IN THE LAW. THE PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN CALLED TO MY ATTENTION IS THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER HAS NOT BEEN REPEALED. SECRETARY SALAZAR COMMUNICATED PRIVATELY WITH CHAIRMAN SIMPSON AND CHAIRMAN BISHOP THAT HE DID NOT INTEND TO ENFORCE THE WILD LANDS ORDER BUT THE ORDER IS STILL IN PLACE. SO UNTIL THE ORDER IS WITHDRAWN, THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY. DEMOCRATS STRONGLY OPPOSED INCLUDING THIS LANGUAGE IN THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, THEY'VE OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT TODAY AND THEN THE PRESIDENT HAS THREATENED VETO BECAUSE THIS LANGUAGE MIGHT BE IN THE BILL. NOW, GIVEN THAT DEVELOPMENT MY INITIAL SKEPTICISM ON INCLUDING THIS LANGUAGE IS LONG GONE, I'M NOT EVEN SKEPTICAL ANYMORE. CLEARLY THERE ARE THOSE WHO STILL WANT THE SECRETARY TO OPERATE OUTSIDE HIS LEGAL AUTHORITY AND DECLARE WILDERNESS OR WILD LANDS AREAS WITHOUT CONGRESS. ONLY CONGRESS CAN DO THAT. NOW, THERE'S PLENTY -- AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 04:35:52 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING AND I'M GLAD THE GENTLEMAN SUGGESTED --

  • 04:35:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN WILL RISE.

  • 04:36:01 PM

    MR. HASTINGS

    I'M GLAD THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP 3310 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING…

    I'M GLAD THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP 3310 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THE FIRST SENTENCE UNDER SECTION 1 PURPOSE REAFFIRMS, IT SAYS THE SECRETARIAL ORDER ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF WILDERNESS CHARACTERISTICS. NOBODY IS ARGUING ABOUT THAT AT ALL. THEN YOU GO TO PAGE 2 OF THE SECRETARIAL ORDER, SECTION 4 POLICY AND IT GOES ON THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INVENTORY AND SO FORTH AND THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE PROBLEM WHERE WE HAVE OUR HEARTBURN. AND IT SAYS, AND I WILL QUOTE, WHERE THE B.L.M. CONCLUDES THAT PROTECTION OF WILDERNESS CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH NOBODY ARGUES ABOUT, IS APPROPRIATE, THE B.L.M. SHALL DESIGNATE THESE LANDS AS, QUOTE, WILD LANDS, END QUOTE. NOW, THAT IS A MADE-UP DEFINITION. NOBODY ARGUES ABOUT THE INVENTORY PART BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE SUPERSEDING AND SUGGESTING THAT THERE SHOULD BE A NEW DESIGNATION CALLED WILD LANDS, THAT IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. AND WE AFFIRMED THAT BY THE WAY IN TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF OUR COMMITTEE. WHAT THIS -- THE PART OF THE INTERIOR BILL SIMPLY SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND THAT AND UNTIL THE SECRETARY ORDER IS WITHDRAWN, THIS ONE HERE, THIS ONE HERE THAT SAYS WILD LANDS, ONCE THIS IS WITHDRAWN YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NO ISSUE. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN WITHDRAWN. THAT'S WHY THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO STAY IN THERE. IT'S NOTHING MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING.

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  • 04:37:34 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    THANK YOU. RECLAIMING MY TIME, THIS ISSUE IS NOT JUST A ACADEMIC…

    THANK YOU. RECLAIMING MY TIME, THIS ISSUE IS NOT JUST A ACADEMIC DISCUSSION ON THIS FLOOR. PEOPLE IN THE WEST ARE TERRIFIED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR IS GOING TO CREATE A NEW CATEGORY OF LANDS CALLED WILD LANDS THAT WILL BE MANAGED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE LAW PROVIDES.

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  • 04:37:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 04:38:00 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA,…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. MORAN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE NOES HAVE IT. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 04:38:24 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK OCCURRING ON PAGE 65 AND LINE 5 AND I ALSO…

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK OCCURRING ON PAGE 65 AND LINE 5 AND I ALSO WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO HAVE THREE AMENDMENTS PUT ALL IN THE SAME SUBJECT BUT ONE AMENDMENT TOUCHES LINE 21 AND ONE AMENDMENT TOUCHES LINE 73, IN THE INTEREST OF COMITY I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE PERMITTED TO OFFER ALL THOSE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC.

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  • 04:39:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION TO CONSIDERING ALL THREE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC AT THIS READING?…

    OBJECTION TO CONSIDERING ALL THREE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC AT THIS READING? HEARING NONE, THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE.

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  • 04:39:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO SPECIFY THE AMENDMENTS IN THE CORRECT ORDER?

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    FIRST ONE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT OCCURS ON PAGES 65, LINE 5. THE SECOND…

    FIRST ONE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT OCCURS ON PAGES 65, LINE 5. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SIMPLY SAYS -- PAGE 65, LINE 21. AND THE THIRD AMENDMENT IS PAGE 73 LINE 19.

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  • 04:39:58 PM

    THE CLERK

    BY MR. LA TRET OF OHIO. AFTER OF -- MR. LATOURETTE OF OHIO. AFTER THE…

    BY MR. LA TRET OF OHIO. AFTER OF -- MR. LATOURETTE OF OHIO. AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $13 MILLION. PAGE 65, LINE 21, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $60 MILLION. PAGE 73, LINE 19, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $50 MILLION.

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  • 04:40:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 04:40:29 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    I THANK THE CHAIR. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN WASHINGTON, MR.…

    I THANK THE CHAIR. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN WASHINGTON, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE BACK HOME THINK WE CAN'T GET ALONG BUT THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET ALONG AND I'M GOING TO BECOME THE SECOND MEMBER OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT A MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THAT'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BARACK OBAMA. PRESIDENT OBAMA BECAME THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN HISTORY TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT REAL MONEY INTO GREAT LAKES RESTORATION. THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE REGION SELFISHLY KNOW IT AND THOSE AROUND THE WORLD KNOW IT AS ABOUT 20% OF THE WORLD'S FRESHWATER. AND WE'VE NICKELED AND DIMED AND SORT OF MOVED ALONG WITH SOME NICE LEGISLATION IN THIS HOUSE, SOME OF IT WRITTEN BY ONE OF OUR FORMER COLLEAGUES, MR. EHLERS OF MICHIGAN, THE GREAT LAKES LEGACY ACT, BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL PRESIDENT OBAMA, AND I SUSPECT THAT HIS THEN CHIEF OF STAFF, THE NEW MAYOR OF CHICAGO, MR. EMANUEL, HAS WHISPERED IN HIS EAR BECAUSE HE WAS CERTAINLY CON NEVER JENT WITH THESE ISSUES, THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE GREAT LAKES AS AN ECOSYSTEM AND MAKE SURE WE DEAL WITH IT APPROPRIATELY. AND SO PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED $475 MILLION A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE. HOWEVER, AS SO MANY THINGS OCCUR AROUND HERE THAT WENT FROM $475 TO $300 AND NOW IN THIS BILL WE FIND IT TO BE $250 MILLION. THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION INITIATIVE IS DESIGNED TO MITIGATE TAX ACCEPTANCES IN THE GREAT LAKES, TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF INVASIVE SPECIES, TO IMPROVE NEAR SHORE HEALTH AND REDUCE NONPORT SOLUTION, IMPROVE HABITAT AND REDUCE SPECIES LOST AND IMPROVE THE IMPROVEMENT OF ENGAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE PROGRAM OVERALL. I JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE OF THOSE AND THAT IS THE INVASIVE SPECIES AND NOT THE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT COME IN, THIS IS AN INVASIVE SPECIES THAT IS SWIMMING UP THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER, IT'S THE ASIAN CARP. THE ASIAN CARP AND I HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON, THE ASIAN CARP CAN EAT 20% OF ITS BODY WEIGHT A DAY. AND THIS ASIAN CARP, IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL IN BREAKING THROUGH THE ELECTRONIC BARRIER, GETTING INTO THE GREAT LAKES, WILL DEVASTATE THAT ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM. SO, THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T LIKE DISH LOVE THE GREAT LAKES, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT MADE THIS DESIGNATION, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE NEED MORE MONEY, BUT WHAT DOESN'T NEED MORE MONEY IN THIS BILL AND THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH I AM TAKING IT, CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE GREAT LAKES 20% OF THE WORLD'S FRESHWATER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE DEAD. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE AND ON THIS INSTANCE, MRS. JACKSON, THE ADMINISTRATOR AT THE E.P.A., HAS BEEN REALLY A GREAT PARTNER IN IMPLEMENTING THESE PROGRAMS. SHE HAS OVER 300 PROJECTS UNDER WAY AT THIS CURRENT TIME. SO, I KNOW THIS IS HEAVY LIFT, I KNOWS THAT SELFISH, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT SELFISH BECAUSE THE GREAT LAKES CONTINUE TO BE THE TREASURE OF THE WORLD AND THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHEN WATER IS THE NEW OIL, WHEN IT COMES TO AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE. SO I URGE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:43:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. ANYONE SEEK RECOGNITION?

  • 04:43:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO.

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    >>

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 04:44:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    >>

    REALLY HARD, MR. CHAIRMAN. BUT GIVEN OUR ALLOCATION, WE HAD TO CUT MANY…

    REALLY HARD, MR. CHAIRMAN. BUT GIVEN OUR ALLOCATION, WE HAD TO CUT MANY E.P.A. PROGRAMS INCLUDING PROGRAMS WE SUPPORT LIKE THE CLEAN WATER AND DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUNDS.

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  • 04:44:16 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    WE REDUCE NEARLY EVERY E.P.A. GEOGRAPHICAL PROGRAM BELOW THE 2011 ENACTED…

    WE REDUCE NEARLY EVERY E.P.A. GEOGRAPHICAL PROGRAM BELOW THE 2011 ENACTED LEVELS IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING NONE OF THE REQUESTED INCREASES. DESPITE THE CUTS, RESTORATION TO THE GREAT LAKES REMAINS A COMMITTEE PRIORITY AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT THE GREAT LAKES PROGRAM IS THE LARGEST RECIPIENT OF FUNS IN THE GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS, IT'S THE LARGEST GEOGRAPHICAL AREA ALSO SO YOU WOULD PROBABLY EXPECT THAT. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S OFFSET, WHERE HE OFFSET THIS FROM, WE CUT E.P.A.'S CLIMATE BUDGET BY $23 MILLION AND IT'S EASY TO VOTE AGAINST FUNDING FOR CLIMATE CHANGE OR THE INCREASED FUNDING THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO CLIMATE CHANGE. THE CHAIRMAN'S REMARK AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE ARE SOME E.P.A. PROGRAMS WE SUPPORT UNDER THE CLIMATE CHANGE HEADING INCLUDING RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF NEW AUTOMOTIVE STECKNOLINGS INCLUDING THE HYDRAULIC HYBRID TECHNOLOGY FOR TRUCKS, CARBON CAPTURE AND SEQUESTRATION AND INITIATIVES TO INCREASE METHANE TRANSMISSION. THE REALITY IS THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOW THE KIND OF KEY PHRASE, THAT YOU IF YOU WANT TO GET MONEY FOR -- IF YOU WANT TO GET MONEY FOR YOUR BASIC SCIENCE, YOU CALL IT CLIMATE CHANGE. JUST LIKE AFTER 9/11 9/11 IF YOU WANTED MONEY FOR SOME PROGRAM YOU CALLED IT NATIONAL SECURITY. HOMELAND SECURITY. THAT WAS THE KEY PHRASE. NOW CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE KEY PHRASE. SO A LOT OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN BASIC SCIENCE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME BUT HAVE BEEN SHIFTED OVER AND CALLED CLIMATE CHANGE. . WHILE WE LOOKED AT CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE BUDGET INCREASEES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIAL, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THEM, MANY OF THEM WERE BASIC SCIENCE THAT NEEDED TO BE CONTINUED SO WE COULDN'T ELIMINATE THE CLIMATE CHANGE OR REDUCE IT AND CLIMATE CHANGE TOOK AN $83 MILLION HIT IN THIS BILL. WE SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR WHERE BASE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED AS CLIMATE CHANGE. SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE USING AS AN OFFSET UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION'S CLASSIFICATION OF A CLIMATE CHANGE PROGRAM. IN ADDITION, FUNDING FOR THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION EFFORTS GREW FROM $60 MILLION IN 2009 TO $475 MILLION IN 2010. THEREFORE, AT THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK OF $250 MILLION, FUNDING FOR THE DEMRAKES IS FOUR TIMES ABOVE ITS HISTORICAL LEVELS. AGAIN, IT CONTINUES TO BE HISTORICAL AND THE GREAT LAKES IS THE LARGEST RECIPIENT OF FUNDS IN THE E.P.A. PROGRAMS. IF I FELT WE COULD FUND THE GREAT LAKES AT A HIGHER LEVEL, BELIEVE ME I WOULD HAVE DONE SO AND WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO AVOID THIS DEBATE WITH THE THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO. THE GENTLEMAN MAKES A GOOD POINT AND I AGREE WITH HIM AND IF WE HAD HAPPY IN THE ALLOCATION, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO IT. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO YIELD.

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  • 04:47:21 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    SAY GREAT LAKES RESTORATION FUND BACK SLASH?

  • 04:47:31 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    HAVE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO.

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    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA RISE? THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:47:50 PM

    MS. MCCOLLUM

    THE GENTLEMAN. I REPRESENT A GREAT LAKES REGION IN MINNESOTA AND I THINK…

    THE GENTLEMAN. I REPRESENT A GREAT LAKES REGION IN MINNESOTA AND I THINK AS THE CHAIRMAN POINTED OUT THE CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN CUT, GREAT LAKES HAVE BEEN CUT AND I'M HERE TO TELL THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A WIN-WIN EVEN WITHOUT SUPPORTING YOUR AMENDMENT, THE REASON BEING BY LEAVING THE DOLLARS WHERE THEY ARE IN THE CLIMATE CHANGE, WE CAN CONTINUE ON AND THROUGH OUR WORK MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE GREAT LAKES IS DOCUMENTED AND PROVEN SO THAT THE FACTS ARE OUT THERE ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES. ONE IS FROM A LOCAL PAPER "STAR TRIBUNE," JULY 13 AND IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WITH CLIMATE CHANGE THAT THEY ARE SEEING IN LAKE SUPERIOR, USED TO BE TOO COLD FOR DEER TICKS BUT NOT ANYMORE. SCIENTISTS ARE WATCHING THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE GREAT LAKES' REGION. THE TICKS THAT CARRY LIME DISEASE HAVE BEEN FOUND OFF THE COAST OF NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND AT THE END OF THE CENTURY, NESTING LOONS -- MAY AFFECT THEM. AND EFFECT OR PARKS AND PUBLIC WATERS THAT WE SHARE IN OUR REGION. THE SERIES OF STUDIES HAVE CONCLUDED FUTURE EFFECTS OF WARMING, GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE, OUR NATIONAL PARKS FROM CALIFORNIA TO VIRGINIA AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT, BUT PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT IS NOT HARD ENOUGH TO REALLY KIND OF GET -- TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO CLIMATE CHANGE, THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE GREAT LAKES, LET ME SPEAK FROM ANOTHER REPORT THAT DEALT WITH SHIPPING ON THE GREAT LAKES. AND I WILL ENTER FOR THE RECORD WHICH REPORTS I USE. BUT LET ME QUOTE FROM THIS. IT SAYS THE EXPECTED HIGHER TEMPERATURES OF CLIMATE CHANGE ARE PREDICTED TO INCREASE WATER EVAPORATION, LOWER RUNOFF, REDUCE ICE FORMATION, RAISE SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN THE GREAT LAKES RESULTING IN A FALL OF LAKE LEVELS. THE INCREASED PRECIPITATION WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO OFFSET THE REDUCTION IN LAKE LEVELS. FOR INTERNATIONAL AND COMMERCIAL NAVIGATION OF THE GREAT LAKES, THE IMPACT OF LOWER LAKE LEVELS WILL BE REDUCTION IN VESSEL, TONAGES, AND INCREASING THE COST OF TRIPS. IN OTHER WORDS, CLIMATE CHANGE ON THE GREAT LAKES HAS AN EFFECT ON THE ECONOMY. AND I KNOW THAT THE CHAIRMAN DID NOT HAVE, IN MY OPINION, SUFFICIENT ALLOCATIONS TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE ISSUES I CARE PASSIONATELY ABOUT, INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE FUNDING AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO AND I SAW ON THE GREAT LAKES. BUT I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S -- FROM OHIO, COULD ACTUALLY SEE BENEFIT TO THE GREAT LAKES AND RESEARCH BY NOT HAVING HIS AMENDMENT MOVE FORWARD AND KEEPING THE DOLLARS THAT WE DO HAVE FOR SCIENCE AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID WITH GREAT RISK, I WOULD YIELD.

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  • 04:51:20 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    IS MISNAMED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME ON DEER, IT COMES MORE ON THE LITTLE…

    IS MISNAMED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME ON DEER, IT COMES MORE ON THE LITTLE GRAY MOUSE BECAUSE THE GRAY MOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE GROUND. AND IF YOU TREAT A COTTON BALL WITH AN APPROPRIATE SUBSTANCE, YOU CAN RELIEVE THAT NOT ONLY IN MINNESOTA, VIRGINIA AND OHIO.

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  • 04:51:42 PM

    MS. MCCOLLUM

    THE GENTLEMAN, I KNOW HOW TO REMOVE LEACHES, DEER TICKS AND FISH HOOKS.…

    THE GENTLEMAN, I KNOW HOW TO REMOVE LEACHES, DEER TICKS AND FISH HOOKS. THE MEMBERS SHOULD REJECT THIS AMENDMENT AND LEAVE THE DOLLARS WHERE THEY ARE AND PUT MORE DOLLARS INTO OUR ENVIRONMENT NOT ONLY FOR ITS NATURAL BEAUTY AND LEAVE A VALUED TREASURE TO OUR CHILDREN BUT IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:52:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES VASM VIRGINIA RISE? -- THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES VASM VIRGINIA RISE? -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 04:52:23 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I OBJECT TO THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO MAKE A…

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. I OBJECT TO THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO MAKE A NUMBER OF POINTS. ONE IS THAT THE AMENDMENT ADDS FUNDS FOR WHAT ARE CALLED GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS. IT'S A PRETTY BROAD CATEGORY AND INCLUDES CHESAPEAKE BAY, PEW GET SOUND AND GREAT LAKES AND OTHER WATER BODIES THAT NEED RESTORATION PROJECTS. IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES, I TRUST THE GENTLEMAN WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE FUNDING WILL BE DIVIDED AMONGST ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS. NOW I DO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THE CONGRESS TO CLEAN UP THE GREAT LAKES AND DEAL WITH THESE INVASIVE SPECIES AND THE ASIAN CARP IS WHO AREBLY DESTRUCTIVE. BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT IT WAS DURING DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP IN THE CONGRESS THAT THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION PROJECT RECEIVED ITS LARGEST INCREASES. IN FISCAL YEAR 2010, THE PROGRAM RECEIVED $475 MILLION. IN THIS CURRENT YEAR, THEY ARE GETTING $300 MILLION. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE FUNDING LEVEL OF $250 MILLION, WHICH IS IN THIS BILL IN A BILL THAT CUTS FAR MORE DRAMATICALLY ANY OTHER PROGRAMS WOULD BE SEEN AS A SUCCESS. IF ANYTHING, MR. SIMPSON SHOULD BE THANKED FOR PROTECTING THIS PROGRAM. THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PROGRAM -- I'LL LET MR. DICKS SPEAK ABOUT PUGET SOUND. CHESAPEAKE BAY WAS FUNDED AT $50 MILLION. NOW I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S FRUSTRATION THAT MORE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THIS BILL FOR ALL OF THE GEOGRAPHIC PROGRAMS. BUT THE REASON WHY WE ARE IN THIS POSITION OF UNDERFUNDING THESE ADMITTEDLY CRITICAL WATER PROGRAMS IS BECAUSE OF TWO ACTIONS. AND I KNOW HE WILL REMEMBER BECAUSE HE SUPPORTED THEM. ONE WAS THE RYAN REPUBLICAN BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN VOTED AND THE 302-B ALLOCATION TO THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT SET THE STAGE. IT REALLY SET PARAMETERS THAT WERE FAR TOO TIGHT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF FUNDS FOR MANY PROGRAMS, INCLUDING GREAT LAKES RESTORATION, THAT ARE NEEDED. NOW ANOTHER POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE NAMED IS THAT THE G.A.O. REPORTED TO THE COMMITTEE, AND I QUOTE, PROGRESS REMAINS SLOW AS THE PROGRAM HAS DELISTED ONLY ONE OF THE 31 AREAS OF CONCERN. E.P.A. OFFICIALS SAID THE -- SET PROGRAMS BECAUSE IT HAS HAD TROUBLE TO MEET PAST GOALS. THE AGENCY DID SET LOWER GOALS IN 2012 THAN IT DOES SEEM TO MAKE SENSE THAT REDUCE FUNDING MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THOSE LESSER GOALS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE OFFSET IS REALLY UNTENABLE. REDUCES SCIENCE ACCOUNT AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS WITH WHAT I THINK IS THE EXPRESSED INTENT OF CUTTING ADDITIONAL CLIMATE CHANGE AND CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAMS. NOW I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT AND I KNOW THAT THE GENTLEMAN OFFERING THE AMENDMENT MAY NOT BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BUT IT DOES SEEM A BIT HYPOTHETICAL. THE GENTLEMAN OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT TO ADD FUNDS TO THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION ALSO OFFERED LANGUAGE THAT WAS PUT IN THE BILL TO DEFUND THE GREAT LAKES RESTORATION OVER THE BALLAST WATER STANDARDS. THAT AMENDMENT --

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  • 04:56:27 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?

  • 04:56:32 PM

    MR. MORAN

    FINISH. I BELIEVE I HAVE THE TIME.

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    MR. MORAN

    TO YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE MOMENT. IF WE WANT TO HELP GREAT LAKES GET THE…

    TO YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE MOMENT. IF WE WANT TO HELP GREAT LAKES GET THE KIND OF MONEY THEY NEED, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME WE SHOULD BE OFFERING AMENDMENTS WHICH WOULD COMPLETELY DEFUND ALL E.P.A. PROGRAMS FOR THE STATES BORDERING THE GREAT LAKES IF THEY DON'T MEET ADEQUATE BALLAST WATER STANDARDS WHICH IS THE AMENDMENT THE GENTLEMAN PUT IN THE BILL. THERE ARE SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF POINTS TO URGE DEFEAT OF THE AMENDMENT AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO MY VERY GOOD FRIEND FROM OHIO.

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  • 04:57:15 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN VERY MUCH. BUT YOU HAVE MISCHARACTERIZED THE OTHER…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN VERY MUCH. BUT YOU HAVE MISCHARACTERIZED THE OTHER PART. THE OTHER PIECE OF LANGUAGE IN THE BILL DOES, IT SAYS TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK -- I ASK THAT THE GENTLEMAN BE GIVEN AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

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  • 04:57:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE.

  • 04:57:39 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    PARTICULAR, NEW YORK, HAS IMPOSED BALLAST STANDARDS THAT CAN'T BE MET BY…

    PARTICULAR, NEW YORK, HAS IMPOSED BALLAST STANDARDS THAT CAN'T BE MET BY ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS TODAY. THAT WILL CRIP WILL AND BRING TO A HALT. MY AMENDMENT SAYS IF YOU WANT TO IMPOSE THAT KIND OF STANDARD YOU RPT GOING TO GET ANY MONEY UNTIL THE E.P.A. AND COAST GUARD COME UP WITH A UNIFORM BALLAST WATER EXCHANGE. THE GREAT LAKES ARE UNIQUE. THE GREAT LAKES ARE UNIQUE IN THE WORLD AND I CAN REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, SENATOR DODD WANTED LAKE CHAM PLAIN TO BE A GREAT LAKE. THE GREAT LAKES ARE THE FIVE GREAT LAKES THAT CHILDREN KNOW HOW TO IDENTIFY THEM. WE NEED TO DO THIS IN A BIG WAY AND WE WILL BE IN TROUBLE IF WE DON'T. AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS COURTESY.

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  • 04:58:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED EN BLOC OFFERED BY MR. LATOUR ET. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 04:59:00 PM

    MR. LATOURETTE

    YEAS AND NAYS.

  • 04:59:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO ASKS FOR A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,…

    FROM OHIO ASKS FOR A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. LATOURETTE WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE?

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  • 04:59:23 PM

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    AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS RISE?

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    THE DESK. 65, LINE 5.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE. THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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    THE CLERK

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    THE CHAIR

    I RESERVE A POINT OF ORDER.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    POINT OF ORDER.

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    THE CHAIR

    I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND SPEAK ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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    LAST WORD AND SPEAK ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. . .

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    MS. JOHNSON

    RESEVERE AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ACCOUNT. E.P.A.…

    RESEVERE AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ACCOUNT. E.P.A. AWARDS E.P.A. AWARDS THE FELLOWSHIP AND DOES NOT AUTHORIZE A NEW ACTIVITY. I REALIZE THAT MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WILL SURELY NOT AGREE TO THIS AMENDMENT BUT THEY HAVE TO AGREE THAT SCIENCE IS THE UNDERPINNING OF GREAT AND GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY. AS THE SCIENTIFIC ARM OF E.P.A., THE OFFICE OF ERE-- OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTS WORLD CLASS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. SUPPORTING THE NEXT GENERATION OF SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS THROUGH FELLOWSHIP IS JUST ONE WAY THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS THE KIND OF CRITICALLY IMPORTANT RESEARCH THAT PRIVATE RESEARCH AND ACADEMIA CANNOT AND WILL NOT DO. WITH NO REAL JUSTIFICATION OR DETAIL, THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT LANGUAGE FOR THIS BILL SPECIFIES THAT FUNDS ARE NOT PROVIDED FOR FELLOWSHIP PROGRAMS, A $17 MILLION LOSS FOR THIS DEAL. LAB EQUIPMENT CANNOT OPERATE ITSELF. THEY CANNOT PUBLISH IMPORTANT PAPERS OR MAKE GROUND BREAKING DISCOVERIES, WHICH CREATES JOBS. THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE. AND E.P.A. HAS A HISTORY OF FORCING SOME OF THE TOP YOUNG RESEARCH THAT HAVE APPLIED THEIR TALENT ACROSS THE INDUSTRY. FOR INSTANCE, SINCE 1985, E.P.A. HAS AWARDED 1,500 STAR FELLOWSHIPS. TURNING OUR BACKS ON THE NEXT GENERATION OF ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS, GOVERNMENT SCIENTISTS AND SCIENCE EDUCATORS AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERS ALL BE ENSURED WE ARE DOOMED TO MAKE BAD, UNINFORMED ENVIRONMENTAL DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE. I REALIZE THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT OF ORDER, I DO NOT AGREE WITH BUT I'M SURE HE WILL BE UPHELD BY THE PARLIAMENTARIAN. SO I SIMPLY WOULD ASK THAT IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO PRESERVE SOME OF THIS TALENT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE AND SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE TO CONTINUE GROUND BREAKING RESEARCH THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FEW WAYS WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP GOOD, SOUND JOBS FOR THE FUTURE. I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:03:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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    ON AN UNAUTHORIZED PROGRAM AND VIOLATES CLAUSE 2 OF RULE 21.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    CLAUSE OF RULE 21 STATES IN PERTINENT PART, AN APPROPRIATION MAY NOT BE IN…

    CLAUSE OF RULE 21 STATES IN PERTINENT PART, AN APPROPRIATION MAY NOT BE IN ORDER FOR AN AMENDMENT NOT PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED BY LAW. THE AMENDMENT FROZE THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR AN EARMARK THAT IS NOT AUTHORIZED. THE AMENDMENT THEREFORE VIOLATES CLAUSE 2 OF RULE 21 AND I ASK FOR A RULING FROM THE CHAIR.

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  • 05:03:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE HEARD ON THE POINT OF ORDER? THE GENTLEWOMAN…

    ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE HEARD ON THE POINT OF ORDER? THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS.

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  • 05:04:02 PM

    MS. JOHNSON

    THAT POINT OF ORDER BUT I WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS…

    THAT POINT OF ORDER BUT I WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH US AND SEE IF WE CAN PRESERVE SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE ALREADY MADE AND SOME OF THE TALENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:04:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CHAIR IS PREPARED TO RULE. THE AMENDMENT EXPANDS THE ELIGIBLE USES OF…

    THE CHAIR IS PREPARED TO RULE. THE AMENDMENT EXPANDS THE ELIGIBLE USES OF APPROPRIATIONS AND PENDING PARAGRAPH TO INCLUDE FELLOWSHIPS. AS SUCH IT PROPOSES TO APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE PROPONENT OF AN ITEM OF APPROPRIATION CARRIES THE BURDEN OF PERSUASION ON THE QUESTION WHETHER IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE AUTHORIZATION IN LAW. HAVING REVIEWED THE AMENDMENT AND ENTERTAINED ARGUMENT ON THE POINT OF ORDER, THE CHAIR IS UNABLE TO CONCLUDE THE ITEM OF APPROPRIATION IN QUESTION IS AUTHORIZED IN LAW. THE CHAIR THEREFORE IS CONSTRAINED TO SUSTAIN THE POINT OF ORDER UNDER CLAUSE 2A OF RULE 21.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON RISE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. BLUMENAUER

    THANK YOU. AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SPENT MANY, MANY YEARS WORKING WITH PEOPLE…

    THANK YOU. AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SPENT MANY, MANY YEARS WORKING WITH PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY ON PROMOTION OF COMMUNITIES, I AM FRANKLY MYSTIFIED TO SEE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL AN END TO THE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE TO COMMUNITIES LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INCREASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLAN FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES SAFER, HEALTHIER AND MORE ECONOMICALLY SECURE. IT IS MYSTIFYING. THE E.P.A. OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES WAS ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE A RESOURCE FOR COMMUNITIES WHO NEED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO PLAN FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH, DEAL WITH DEVELOPMENT, ACCOUNT FOR A CHANGING POPULATION AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS, TO EXPAND THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS AND MAKE COMMUNITIES MORE ATTRACT TOIV BUSINESS AND LOCAL CITIZENS. MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF EXAMPLES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABOUT THE WORK THAT THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES HAS ACCOMPLISHED. SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS WERE SITUATIONS WHERE THE OFFICE OF SMART VOTE HAS HELPED IN BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE COMPLICATED PROBLEMS FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY HELP TURN UNUSABLE, POLLUTED LAND INTO LAND THAT'S READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THIS HELPS CREATE HOUSING AN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES AND PROVIDES CITIES WITH IMPORTANT FOUNDATIONS FOR PLANNING FUTURE GROWTH. THIS IS PRECISELY THE SORT OF THING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO HELP COMMUNITIES LEVERAGE RESOURCES AND PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE. IN IOWA CITY, IOWA, THE OFFICE OF SMART GROWTH RECENTLY RECEIVED A GRANT -- APPROVED A GRANT TO RENEW THEIR DOWNTOWN RIVER FRONT AREA AFTER THE 2008 FLOOD DEVASTATED THAT COMMUNITY. WITH THE HELP OF E.P.A., THEY CREATED A PLAN WITH INPUT AND SUPPORT FROM LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUSINESS LEADERS, LOCAL RESIDENTS, IT'S HELPED GENERATE, REGENERATE, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AREA WHILE PRESERVING GEEN SPACE AND RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR FAMILIES MOVING INTO THE NEWLY REDEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. CLOSER TO MY SIDE OF THE CONTINENT, JUST PICKING AT RANDOM, COMMUNITIES OF DRAKES AND VICTOR IN IDAHO RECEIVED A SMART GROWTH IMPLEMENTATION ASSISTANCE GRANT TO HELP ANALYZE THE BARRIERS AND OPPORTUNITIES OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN SUPPORT OF DOWNTOWN REVITALLY EFFORT. THIS HELPED SMALL COMMUNITIES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT HELPED REVITALIZE THESE SMALL RURAL TOWNS. HUNDREDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE ARE RECEIVED SIMILAR ASSISTANCE UNDER THE SMART GROWTH PROGRAM BUT THESE COOPERATIVE EFFORTS WOULD COME TO AN END UNDER THIS HOUSE LEGISLATION. THE SERVICES OFFERED BY E.P.A.'S SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES OFFICE ARE IN HIGH DEMAND. THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST ONLY 9% OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED DUE TO EXISTING BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. IN ADDITION TO THEIR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORK, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES IS ENGAGED IN A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE SUPPORTING AND ENCOURAGING BETWEEN H.U.D., THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND E.P.A. THE PARTNERSHIP FOR SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES ENABLES THESE THREE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT FEDERAL FUNDS WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER, BREAK DOWN THE SILOS THAT FRUSTRATE US ALL TO ENSURE THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE SPENT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AND ELIMINATE DUPLICATIVE PROCESSES. DESPITE THE OBVIOUS CONNECTIONS BETWEEN HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND LAND USE, WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED THAT IN THE PAST, THE THREE AGENCIES HAVE NOT ALWAYS WORKED WELL TOGETHER AS WE WOULD LIKE. BUCEK RETEARS DONOVAN, OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE LAHOOD, ADMINISTRATOR JACKSON AND THE AGENCY HAVE SPENT THESE LAST TWO YEARS CUTTING DOWN THE RED TAPE AND THE COORDINATION TO MEET MULTIPLE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES WHILE ALSO CUTTING RED TAPE AND WORKING TO PARTNER BETTER WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THE E.P.A.'S OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES HELPS FILL A CRITICAL NEED BY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES. I FIND IT RIDICULOUS THAT AT A TIME WHEN THIS TYPE OF HELP IS NEEDED MORE THAN EVER, WHEN THERE ISNARYRY A MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO HASN'T BEEN FRUSTRATED BY ABOUT THE LACK OF COORDINATION AND IMPLEMENTATION, THAT THE HOUSE IS NOW CONSIDERING ENDING CRITICAL SUPPORT TO COMMUNITIES LOOKING FOR WAYS TO JUMP START THEIR OWN ECONOMIC RECOVERY, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, BY MAKING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT A BETTER PARTNER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO GEOGRAPHIC, REGIONAL, PARTISAN OR IDEOLOGICAL DIVIDE. THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING PROGRAM. IT DESERVES TO BE SUPPORTED. AND I HOPE AS THIS BILL WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS WE FIND A WAY TO RETAIN THIS VALUABLE SERVICE. THANK YOU AND I YIELD PACK.

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  • 05:10:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON YIELD BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON YIELD BACK HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RISE? THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    ME IS A PICTURE OF THE CUYAHOGA RIVER IN 1952. THE RIVER IS ON FIRE. THE…

    ME IS A PICTURE OF THE CUYAHOGA RIVER IN 1952. THE RIVER IS ON FIRE. THE REASON FOR THE FIRE IS THAT THE RIVER WAS HEAVILY CONTAMINATED WITH FLAMMABLE INDUSTRIAL WASTE. THIS WATER WAS DANGEROUS TO DRINK, NEEDLESS TO SAY, AND TO SWIM IN. FISH AND WILDLIFE COULD NOT SURVIVE HERE.

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  • 05:11:30 PM

    MS. HIRONO

    IN THIS RIVER WOULD HAVE SPREAD POLLUTION TO THE SHORE AND NEIGHBORHOODS.…

    IN THIS RIVER WOULD HAVE SPREAD POLLUTION TO THE SHORE AND NEIGHBORHOODS. IN SHORT, THIS WAS DAINLS FOR THE THOVELT PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT DEPENDED ON THIS RIVER. IT WAS INCIDENTS LIKE THESE THAT HELPED RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE DANGERS OF WATER POLLUTION. ULTIMATELY, THAT AWARENESS BECAME GOVERNMENT ACTION, INCLUDING THE CREATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, E.P.A., IN 1970 AND PASSAGE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT IN 1972. THE E.P.A.'S PURPOSE IS SIMPLE, TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. IT DOES THIS BY ENSURING MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR WATER QUALITY NATIONWIDE WHILE ACTING AS A REFEREE BETWEEN THE STATES. DESPITE THIS IMPORTANT MISSION, THIS BILL SLASHES THE E.P.A.'S BUDGET BY 18% FROM CURRENT LEVELS. OF COURSE I RISE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS UNDERLYING BILL. IT ALSO INCLUDES A NUMBER OF RIDERS THAT WILL PREVENT THE E.P.A. FROM CARRYING OUT DUTIES IT IS ALREADY LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PERFORM. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE MAJORITY IS SO KEEN ON UNDERMINING THE VITAL MISSION OF THE E.P.A. I HEAR THEM TALK A LOT ABOUT THE COST OF CERTAIN E.P.A. REGULATIONS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COST OF GETTING RID OF THESE REGULATIONS? ONE SERIOUS COST THAT WOULD GO UP IS THE COST OF PUBLIC HEALTH. THE IMPACT OF POLLUTING OUR AIR AND WATER ISN'T A SPECULATIVE MATTER. WE KNOW IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES SICK. MORE MERCURY IN THE AIR WITH WE -- WE BREATHE MEANS MORE DEATHS AND DEBILITATING ILLNESSES. MORE WATER POLLUTION MEANS FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WILL BE SUBJECTED TO A VARIETY OF HEALTH RISKS. IN SHORT, MORE POLLUTION MEANS RAPIDLY ESCALATING HEALTH CARE COSTS. ANOTHER COST IS THE COST TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. OUR RIVERS, COASTLINES AND WETLANDS ARE THE PLACES WE TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO EXPERIENCE THE WONDERS OF OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS WHERE THEIR INTEREST IN THE NATURAL SCIENCES AND THE OUTDOORS ARE KINDLED. PLULETTED WATERS AND COASTLINES MEANS LESS WILDLIFE, POORER FISHING AND A LOT LESS BEAUTY IN THIS WORLD. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE MERELY STEWARDS OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE COST OF POLLUTING THOSE RESOURCES ISN'T ONLY BORNE NOW, IT'LL BE BORNE BY FUTURE GENERATIONS. FINALLY, THE E.P.A. HELPS ENSURE A FAIR PLAYING FIELD FOR BUSINESSES. THIS HELPS KEEP THEIR LONG-TERM KANSASES MANAGEABLE. IT'S A SIMPLE FACT THAT A FEW DOLLARS IN PREVENTION IS FAR, FAR CHEAPER THAN EXPENSIVE CLEANUP COSTS LATER FOR THOSE THAT -- LATER. FOR THOSE THAT DISAGREE OR QUESTION THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT B.P. OIL THAT COMPANY WILL AND SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THEIR DAMAGE FOR YEARS TO COME. THOSE ARE THE COSTS THE E.P.A. HELPS MITT GATE. THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE E.P.A. WE NEED A REFEREE THAT IS EMPOWERED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE PLAYS BY THE RULES AND PROTECTS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. IF WE PASS THIS BILL, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY REJECTING THE REFEREE FROM THE GAME FOR CALLING MISCONDUCT ON CERTAIN PLAYERS AND THIS WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE MORE MISBEHAVIOR IN THE FUTURE. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PICTURE. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? THIS BILL IS SO FLAWED THERE IS LITTLE HOPE FOR IT. I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL REEVALUATE THEIR APPROACH IN THIS LEGISLATION, PULL IT FROM THE FLOOR AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I YIELD THE REMAINER OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:15:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    SQUOM FROM HAWAII YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    SQUOM FROM HAWAII YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS RISE.

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  • 05:15:20 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 05:15:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:15:25 PM

    MRS. CHRISTENSEN

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHILE WE SHOULD BE HERE BY PASSION A CLEAN DEBT…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHILE WE SHOULD BE HERE BY PASSION A CLEAN DEBT CEILING AND CREATING JOBS, BUT IN THIS TIME OF HIGH DEFICIT AND FRAGILE ECONOMY, WHEN IT'S CRITICAL THAT OUR LIMITED SPENDING PRIORITIES BE FOCUS ON PROGRAMS THAT CAN ACHIEVE RESULTS AND ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF JOBS AND ECONOMIC GROWTH, THE MAJORITY HAS INSTEAD BRINGING AN UNPRECEDENTED ATTEMPT TO GUT POLLUTION CONTROLS AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTIONS IN ORDER TO BIGGER PROFITS TO BIG OIL AND OTHER SPECIAL INTEREST POLLUTERS. BY ATTACHING MORE THAN THREE DOZEN POLICY RIDERS TO H.R. 2584, THE HOUSE G.O.P. IS ATTEMPTING TO USE A SPENDING BILL TO MAKE BACK DOOR CHANGES TO -- OF 40 YEARS OF IMPORTANT FEDERAL LAWS. H.R. 2584 MAKES DRASTIC SPENDING CUTS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY , AS YOU JUST HEARD, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND HAS AN ASSAULT ON AMERICA'S AIR, WATER, LAND, WILDLIFE AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND SEVERELY UNDERMINES THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT. IN DOING SO, THIS LEGISLATION CRIPPLES THE BUDGET OF KEY FEDERAL AGENCIES CHARGED WITH PROTECTING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND NATURAL RESOURCES. THE BILL IS LAYDEN CONTRADICTIONS AND REGRESSIVE REFORMS. IT SLASHES FUNDING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BY $1.8 BILLION, YET RESTORES $55 MILLION IN OIL AND GAS SUBSIDIES. IT DRAMATICALLY CUTS THE FISH AND WILDLIFE FUND BY 30%, ZEROS OUT FUNDING TO LIST NEW ENDANGERED SPECIES. IT REDUCES THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION BUDGET BY 18% LOWER THAN THE PRESIDENT'S 2012 BUDGET, AND WHOLLY ELIMINATES FUNDING FOR NOAA'S CLIMATE SERVICE. IT CUTS LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND BY 80%, A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN CRITICAL TO MY DISTRICT, THE U.S. SIRGSIRG AND EVERYONE'S DISTRICT. -- U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS AND EVERYONE'S DISTRICT. IT HAS THE FUNDING TO THE LOWEST LEVELS IN ITS HISTORY AND IT CUTS $9.7 MILLION FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE HUMANITIES, THREATENING SUPPORT FOR TEACHERS, COLLEGE COMMUNITIES, LIBRARIES AND ARCHIVES FOR IMPORTANT HISTORIC DOCUMENTS AND MANY OTHERS AS WELL AS PRESERVATION PROJECTS THAT ENHANCES LOCAL COMMUNITIES. ONE THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY COMMUNITY, THE NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA PROGRAM. I RECENTLY INTRODUCED A BILL TO CREATE A NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA ON THE ISLAND OF ST. CROIX WHICH WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO, NOT ONLY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT SOME OF OUR LOCAL HISTORIC TREASURES BUT AS A BADLY NEEDED ECONOMIC TOOL THAT WOULD CREATE JOBS. NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS ARE SOME OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS FOR RESOURCE, CONSERVATION AND HERITAGE TOURISM SUPPORTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS HAVE MATCHED EVERY DOLLAR OF FEDERAL SUPPORT WITH $5.50 WITH EVERY OTHER FUNDING. I'M APPALLED THIS BILL PUTS SO MUCH ENERGY INTO TEARING DOWN AMERICA'S FOUNDATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ESPECIALLY AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HIGHEST GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION PER SQUARE MILE IN THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE BIGGER CRISIS OF THE DEFICIT CRISIS, THIS FLIES ON THE PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ISSUES. IT DOES NOT PUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST. IT FURTHER ENDANGERS THEM BY ALLOWING FOR MORE DANGEROUS AIR POLLUTION, IT DOES NOT CLEAN UP URBAN AND OTHER CRITICAL WATERWAYS. IT THREATENS THE CLEAN WATER THAT MILLIONS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS DEPEND ON. IT SHUTS THE DOOR ON ENDANGERED SPECIES AND IT TIES THE HANDS OF OUR FEDERAL AGENCIES. AS LEADERS WE SHOULD NOT ADVANCE A BUDGET THAT ELIMINATES CRITICAL PROTECTIONS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS SO DESPERATELY NEED. WE SHOULD NOT TURN A BLIND EYE TO CORPORATE POLLUTERS WHILE HOLDING THE FUTURE JEN TRATIONS -- FUTURE GENERATIONS HOSTAGE. ANDLE WELL-BEING OF THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS AND THE ECONOMIC SECURITY OF OUR COUNTRY HOSTAGE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO LIFT THIS DEBT CEILING. SO MR. CHAIRMAN AND MY COLLEAGUES, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS AND ANY ANTI-PUBLIC HEALTH AND ANTI-AMERICAN AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE OFFERED. I THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:20:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS YIELDS BACK HER TIME. FOR WHAT…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS YIELDS BACK HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 05:20:21 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:20:26 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL WHICH GUTS…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL WHICH GUTS LONG-STANDING ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY. UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT'S WRONG WITH AMERICA TODAY. ONCE AGAIN, SPEAKER BOEHNER AND THE G.O.P. ARE PUTTING THE NEEDS OF THE FEW RIGHT-WING MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AHEAD OF ORDINARY, HARDWORKING, EVERYDAY AMERICANS, MANY OF WHOM LIT UP THE PHONE LINES YESTERDAY IN RECORD NUMBERS TO EXPRESS THEIR DISGUST WITH REPUBLICAN INTRANSIGENTS THAT'S HOLDING OUR NATION AND INTERNATIONAL MARKETS HOSTAGE. NOT ONLY DID THEY CALL IN RECORD NUMBERS, BUT 50 TO 60 PEOPLE CAME TO MY DISTRICT OFFICE YESTERDAY TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR A BALANCED APPROACH TO SOLVING THIS DEBT CEILING ISSUE. I ALSO RECEIVED A PETITION WITH OVER 1,500 NAMES BIGGING THAT WE PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY, BUT STILL AGAINST THE URGENT PLEAS OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, WALL STREET EXECUTIVES, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO CAN ILL-AFFORD ANY REDUCTION IN THEIR ABILITY TO BORROW OR AN INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES FOR CAR, HOME OR STUDENT LOANS, REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO SHOW CONTEMPT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY SAYING NO TO INCREASING THE DEBT CEILING. DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY OF US HAVE ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGES ON OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE? CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THIS NATION DEFAULTS ON ITS OBLIGATIONS TO PAY ITS DEBT? AND AS A RESULT INTEREST RATES GO UP? THAT MEANS YOUR ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGE, MY ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGE RATE GOES UP. COULD I STAND TO PAY $1,000 EXTRA OR $2,000 EXTRA PER MONTH ON MY MORTGAGE BECAUSE INTEREST RATES WENT UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO WHAT WE SHOULD HAD DONE HERE WHICH IS TO INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING, SOMETHING WE'VE DONE 21 TIMES, I BELIEVE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL -- IN EXCESS -- WE DID IT 18 TIMES WITH RONALD REAGAN AS PRESIDENT. WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO DEAL WITH THIS DEBT CEILING ISSUE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE "WASHINGTON POST" REPORTS THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS WATCHED A MOVIE TOGETHER ABOUT BANK ROBBERS TO MOTIVATE MEMBERS OF THEIR CAUCUS TO STAND FIRM IN THEIR SOLIDARITY AGAINST RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. WHAT KIND OF EXAMPLE DOES THIS SET FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? WHAT WOULD THEY SAY IF THEY KNEW THERE WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT BY REPUBLICANS NOT ONLY TO PREVENT AN INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING BUT TO IMPEDE ECONOMIC PROGRESS, CAUSE THE LOSS OF 700,000 JOBS WITH THE PASSAGE OF CUT, CAP AND KILL? WHAT ABOUT OUR VETERANS, OUR STUDENTS? WHAT ABOUT OUR CREDIT RATING IN THIS COUNTRY? WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST LIKE BANK ROBBERS, IT APPEARS THAT REPUBLICANS SEEK TO THREATEN SOCIETY AS A WHOLE LEAVING A TRAIL OF DESTRUCTION IN THEIR WAKE. REPUBLICANS HAVE NOW TAKEN HOSTAGE OF THE U.S. ECONOMY, THREATENING THE LIVELIHOOD AND WELL-BEING OF AMERICANS, YOUNG AND OLD, RICH AND POOR. THEY COULD SEE THE HANDS OF THE CLOCK TICKING. PRECIOUS SECONDS, MINUTES AND HOURS WASTED. SPEAKER BOEHNER AND HIS COHORTS SAY NO TO THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST FOR REASONABLE COMPROMISE. NO TO THE DESPERATE PLEAS OF BUSINESSES BEGGING FOR A SENSE OF CERTAINTY ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING AND NO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOUTED AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS FOR SHARED SACRIFICE IN THESE BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS. WELL, MR. SPEAKER, IF REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INSPIRATION IN THE DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS, I'D RECOMMEND THAT THEY WATCH "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN." IT'S ABOUT A MAN WHO MAKES THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE TO SAVE THE LIVES OF HIS FELLOW AMERICANS. HE WAS NOT A SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST-TYPE GUY.

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  • 05:25:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 05:25:43 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER --

  • 05:25:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I YIELD BACK.

  • 05:25:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 05:25:53 PM

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    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 05:25:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:25:58 PM

    MR. NADLER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A GREAT CRISIS. ENTIRELY AN ARTIFICIAL CRISIS CREATED BY AN ATTEMPT BY ONE POLITICAL PARTY TO BLACKMAIL THE ENTIRE COUNTRY INTO ADOPTING ITS PROGRAM OF DESTROYING MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND FOOD STAMPS AND UNEMPLOYMENT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT MANY OF OUR PEOPLE DEPEND ON. WHY DO I SAY IT'S AN ARTIFICIAL CRISIS? BECAUSE THE DEBT CEILING INCREASE IS SOMETHING WE NORMALLY DO. SEVEN TIMES DURING PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION. SOME PEOPLE THINK TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING IS TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO BORROW AND SPEND MORE. NO, WE'RE NOT. YOU RAISE THE DEBT CEILING IN ORDER TO PAY FOR BILLS YOU ALREADY INCURRED BECAUSE OF DECISIONS MADE TWO AND THREE YEARS AGO, MOSTLY DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. NOT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING IS GOING INTO A RESTAURANT, HAVING AN EXPENSIVE MEAL AND GETTING THE BILL AND SAY, I HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY ON MY CREDIT CARD, I DON'T THINK I'LL PAY THE BILL. IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE GOT THE MEAL. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CUT THOSE TAXES 10 YEARS AGO AND GOTTEN INTO THOSE WARS SEVEN AND EIGHT YEARS AGO AND MADE THE OTHER DECISIONS THAT PILED UP THE DEFICIT. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DEBATE, WHICH WE SHOULD, ON HOW TO CHANGE OUR POLICIES IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S FOR THE BUDGET DEBATE. WE ARE GOING TO PASS A BUDGET AT SOME POINT. WE OUGHT TO DEBATE TAX LEVELS, EXPENDITURE LEVELS. BUT INSTEAD, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY'RE SAYING, THAT'S A NICE ECONOMY YOU GOT THERE. PITY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT. WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY IT BY NOT RAISING THE DEBT CEILING AND CAUSING -- AND CAUSING A COLLAPSE IN CREDIT SO THAT EVERYBODY'S INTEREST RATES GO UP AND PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY $1,000 MORE A MONTH ON THEIR MORTGAGE OR WHATEVER. BECAUSE THIS WILL RIPPLE RIGHT THROUGHOUT OUR ECONOMY. IT WILL BE A REAL CRISIS FOR OUR ECONOMY AND IT WILL COST THE ECONOMY PROBABLY $1 TRILLION IN EXTRA DEFICIT SPENDING OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS JUST IN HIGHER INTEREST COSTS. BUT IF WE DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DESTROY MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND THE OTHER THINGS THEY NIEFER LIKED IN THE FIRST -- THEY NEVER LIKED IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY'LL WRECK THE ECONOMY IN ORDER NOT TO PAY THE BILLS THAT THEY INCURRED. THEN, WE HEAR THAT WE HAVE A DEFICIT CRISIS. THAT AFTER ALL, THE COUNTRY'S BROKE. THE COUNTRY'S BROKE. WE GOT TO CUT THE BUDGET. EVEN THE PRESIDENT SAID THE COUNTRY'S BROKE. WE HAVE TO CUT THE BUDGET. WRONG. THE COUNTRY IS NOT BROKE. IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE NOT TAXING THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND THE BIG CORPORATIONS THE WAY WE USED TO. IN 1950, THE CORPORATIONS PAID 6% OF THE ENTIRE ECONOMY OF THE G.D.P. IN CORPORATE TAXES. TODAY IT'S UNDER 1%. 20 YEARS AGO, 20% -- I'M SORRY -- 30% OF ALL INCOME TAXES CAME FROM CORPORATIONS. TODAY IT'S UNDER 6%. THAT'S WHY THE MIDDLE CLASS FEELS OVERTAXED BECAUSE THEY ARE, BECAUSE WE DON'T TAX THE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES THE WAY WE USED TO. WE DON'T TAX THE CORPORATIONS THE WAY WE USED TO. THE BIG MULTINATIONALS, I'M TALKING ABOUT, NOT THE SMALL ONES. INSTEAD, WE SHIFT THE TAX BURDEN TO THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WE DON'T GET ENOUGH TAX REVENUE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET OF 2001 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET OF 2011, IN 2001 THE BUDGET WAS $258 BILLION IN SURPLUS. IT WAS THE LAST CLINTON BUDGET. HOW HAS IT CHANGED? HOW HAS IT CHANGED? WHY IS THIS BUDGET $1.2 TRILLION IN DEFICIT? NOW IT'S A QUARTER TRILLION IN BALANCE. WHAT'S CHANGED? WELL, ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION AND POPULATION GROWTH, NONDEFENSE DISCRETIONARY SPENDING, EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO CUT NOW HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL. $369 BILLION THEN. $369 BILLION NOW. WHAT'S CHANGED? WELL, DEFENSE SPENDING AND HOMELAND SECURITY SPENDING HAS GONE UP 74% BECAUSE OF TWO WARS AND A LOT OF BLOAT. 74% INCREASE IN DEFENSE SPENDING. MANDATORY PROGRAMS, THAT IS TO SAY, MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY, VETERANS. UP 32%. MOST -- AND THAT'S NOT ONLY THOSE, IT'S ALSO UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. MOSTLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN A RECESSION AND YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE -- NOT MORE -- YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, FOOD STAMPS AND SO FORTH. TOTAL REVENUE IS DOWN 24%. FROM A BIGGER COUNTRY, WE'RE GETTING 24% LESS REVENUE TODAY. WHY? BECAUSE IN 2001, THE TAX COLLECTED 20% OF G.D.P. AND TODAY IT'S 14.5% OF G.D.P. WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING? FIRST OF ALL, RAISE THE DEBT CEILING TO RECOGNIZE THE DEBT ALREADY INCURRED AND DO IT CLEANLY. SO AS NOT TO THROW THE ECONOMY INTO A TAILSPIN. THEN WE SHOULD DEBATE ALL THESE ISSUES IN THE BUDGET, RAISE TAXES ON THE MILLIONAIRE THE BILLIONAIRES, THE CORPORATIONS, CUT DEFENSE AND NOT TRY TO TAMPER WITH PEOPLE'S SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND THE THINGS THEY DEPEND ON. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:31:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PAGE 65, LINE 7, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT, $2,498,433,000 TO…

    PAGE 65, LINE 7, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT, $2,498,433,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013.

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  • 05:31:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013.

  • 05:31:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA RISE?

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 05:31:46 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:32:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 05:32:07 PM

    MR. FLEMING

    A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, THE G.A.O. REPORTED ALARMING FINDINGS AT THE…

    A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, THE G.A.O. REPORTED ALARMING FINDINGS AT THE E.P.A. -- IN THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM, A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY ON THEIR ENERGY BILLS. I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE LEVERAGING HARD-EARNED TAX DOLLARS AND THE TRUST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR A PROGRAM THAT LACKS OVERSIGHT. IT COULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO FRAUD AND ABUSE AND WOULD BE BETTER ADMINISTERED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. HERE'S A REPORT HERE IN MY HAND. MARCH, 2010, THE REPORT INDICATES THAT THE G.A.O. RELEASED A REPORT DOCUMENTING THAT THE PROGRAM WAS MAINLY A SELF-CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WITHOUT MUCH OVERSIGHT OR ACCOUNTABILITY. IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE REPORT, G.A.O. REPORTED -- CREATED SEVERAL FICTITIOUS COMPANIES WITHOUT ANY RELEVANT PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET THAT EASILY BECAME ENERGY STAR MANUFACTURING PARTNERS. THIS NEW STATUS GRANTED THESE GROUPS UNLIMITED ACCESS TO ENERGY STAR LOGOS AND PROMOTIONAL RESOURCES AND G.A.O. WAS ALSO ABLE TO OBTAIN CERTIFICATION FOR 15 BOGUS PRODUCTS, INCLUDING A GAS-POWERED ALARM CLOCK AND A ROOM CLEANER WHICH IS INCREDULOUSLY A FEATHER DUSTER TAPED TO A SPACE HEATER. PRIOR TO APPROVING THESE ITEMS, E.P.A. FAILED TO REVIEW ANY ADDITIONAL MATERIALS INCLUDING WEBSITES AND SELF-INCRIMINATING PICTURES. MY AMENDMENT WILL SIMPLY REDUCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT WITHIN E.P.A. BY $48,206,000 WITH THE INTENT OF REMOVING THE E.P.A.'S PORTION OF FUNDING FOR THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM. THE SAVINGS FROM MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE SPEND REGULAR DUCKS ACCOUNT. -- SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM ENABLES COMPANIES AND MANUFACTURERS TO VOLUNTARILY LABEL QUALIFYING E.P.A. HOUSEHOLD PROMPTS SUCH AS REFRIGERATOR, AIR CONDITIONERS, LIGHT BULBS, ETC. IT ALSO GRANTS ENERGY EFFICIENT LABELING FOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS AN BUSINESSES. ENERGY STAR LABELING ENCOURAGES CONSUMERS TO PURCHASE SUCH PRODUCTS AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND SAVE MONEY ON ENERGY BILLS. ALL VERY GOOD VALUE-ORIENTED VALUES AND CONCEPTS. IT IS MY BELIEF WE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING ANYTHING FOR THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM. IT WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS A PRIVATE ENTITY, SAVING THE TAXPAYER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR. THERE ARE SEVERAL GOOD EXAMPLES OF WELL-RESPECTED, WELL-RUN, INDEPENDENT PRIVATE SECTOR INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP IN ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, A GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION SYSTEM, CONSUMERS UNION, AN EXPERT, INDEPENDENT, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHICH PUBLISHES THE WIDELY ACCLAIMED "CONSUMER REPORTS" AND UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES, U.L., A GLOBAL INDEPENDENT SAFETY SIGHT THAT OFFERS EXPERTISE IN FIVE AREAS, INCLUDING PRODUCT SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENT. THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF NONGOVERNMENT, NONTAXPAYER FUNDED ENTITIES THAT UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DON'T DO A GOOD JOB, THEY WILL LOSE CREDIBILITY. NOT AS MUCH AS CAN BE SAID FOR THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM. AMERICANS RELY HEAVILY ON THIS PROGRAM AND LOOK TO PURCHASE HOUSEHOLD PRODUCTS WITH THE ENERGY STAR LABEL. COMPANIES USE THEE E.P.A.-APPROVED LOGO TO MARKET PRODUCTS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND SEVERAL STATES OFFER TAX CREDITS TO THOSE WHO PURCHASE ENERGY STAR PRODUCTS AND FEDERAL AGENCIES REQUIRE TO USE CERTAIN ENERGY STARLING APPROVED PROJECTS. THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM CONTINUES TO RECEIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INCLUDING APPROXIMATELY $300 MILLION THROUGH THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND INVESTMENT ACT, THE STIMULUS BILL, AND TCHRS 48 MILLION IN THE UNDER-- AND $48 MILLION IN THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. IT'S TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO TAKE OVER AND STOP FUNDING PROGRAMS RIDDLED WITH LOOPHOLES THAT INVESTIGATORS NEED TO POINT OUT BEFORE THE E.P.A. INSTITUTES SYSTEMATIC CHANGES. IN SUMMARY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE COULD WELL AFFORD TO SAVE $48 MILLION AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF GOOD MODELS WHERE PRIVATE ENTITIES HAVE BEEN DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB FOR A MUCH LONGER TIME. SO I ASK OTHERS TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. S THAT GOOD, NOT ONLY ENERGY SAVINGS, BUT MONEY SAVING IDEA AND LET'S TURN IT OVER TO PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY DO A MUCH BETTER JOB. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:36:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RISE TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    I RISE TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE --

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    MR. NADLER

    DISAGREE WITH THE --

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    MR. FLEMING

    I DON'T DISADEPEE WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS. MY POINT IS THIS COULD BE…

    I DON'T DISADEPEE WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S COMMENTS. MY POINT IS THIS COULD BE BETTER DONE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR A FEE PAID DIRECTLY TO WHATEVER PRIVATE EPTITY OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE NONPROFIT FOR THIS. WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE IT? THAT'S THE ISSUE HERE.

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  • 05:40:56 PM

    MR. MORAN

    WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN, RECLAIMING MY TIME, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THE…

    WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN, RECLAIMING MY TIME, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, WHICH FRANKLY, DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF CERTIFICATION, WHICH ALMOST ANYBODY CAN GET DESIGNATIONS, SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL, OTHER TIMES IT'S LESS SO. I THINK THE AMERICAN CONSUMER WANTS SOME LEVEL OF CREDIBILITY IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS CERTIFYING THAT AN APPLIANCE IS ENERGY EFFICIENT, THAT THE ENERGY STAR DESIGNATION MEANS SOMETHING. AND IF THIS WAS SELF-POLICING, DONE COMPLETELY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD AN INSPECTOR GENRE PORT. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS CORRECTIVE MECHANISM THAT SAYS, YOU'VE GOT TO FIX THIS. YOU CAN'T RELY ON SELF-CERTIFICATION WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE UNDER THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY CERTIFICATION. WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT.

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  • 05:41:57 PM

    MR. FLEMING

    ARE PLENTY OF PRIVATE SECTOR OVERSIGHT ORGANIZATIONS. U.L., NO APPLIANCE…

    ARE PLENTY OF PRIVATE SECTOR OVERSIGHT ORGANIZATIONS. U.L., NO APPLIANCE IS -- EVER GOES TO MARKET NOW WITHOUT A U.L. STAMP. AGAIN THAT'S DONE THROUGH A PRIVATE ENTITY. SO AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE FUNDING THAT.

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  • 05:42:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO TALK TO THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE GENTLEMAN'S DESIRE TO REDUCE SPENDING. HOWEVER I MUST OPPOSE THIS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S DESIRE TO REDUCE SPENDING. HOWEVER I MUST OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. AS THE MINORITY POINTED OUT, TO MEET THE 2012 302-B ALLOCATION, WE CUT THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM BY $27.5 MILLION. FUNDING FOR THE ENERGY STAR PROGRAM DOWN TO $38.2 MILLION, BELOW THE 2006 LEVEL.

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  • 05:43:00 PM

    MR. CALVERT

    AND WE BELIEVE THAT SIGNIFICANT CUTS TOOK PLACE IN THIS PROGRAM, AS THEY…

    AND WE BELIEVE THAT SIGNIFICANT CUTS TOOK PLACE IN THIS PROGRAM, AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN, AND WITH THAT, WE RELUCTANTLY OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND WOULD ASK FOR A NO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD.

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  • 05:43:19 PM

    MR. DICKS

    WE AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S POSITION ON THIS AND OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AS…

    WE AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN'S POSITION ON THIS AND OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AS WELL.

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  • 05:43:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELD BACK?

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    MR. CALVERT

    I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA,…

    THE QUESTION SON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA, MR. FLEMING. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS RISE?

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    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 39 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, OFFERED BY MR. POMPEO OF…

    NUMBER 39 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, OFFERED BY MR. POMPEO OF KANSAS.

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  • 05:44:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. POMPEO

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN FOR RUNNING A GREAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I THINK THIS BILL WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARD CREATING A PRO-GROWTH ECONOMY. WE'VE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK TO REDUCE SPENDING ON THIS BILL AND I STAND HERE THIS AFTERNOON HOPING TO HELP OUT EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE AMENDMENT I OFFER, I OFFERED DURING H.R. 1, IT PASSED, IT PASSED WITH VOTES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. THE SENATE FAILED TO ACT ON IT, SO I'M HERE AGAIN TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT ONE MORE TIME AND I HOPE IT WILL PASS AGAIN WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND WE WILL ONCE AGAIN MOVE TOWARD A SMALLER, MORE HUMBLE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOES ONLY THOSE THINGS IT'S INTENDED TO DO THE AMENDMENT I OFFER TODAY SEEKS TO REDUCE BY $6.2 MILLION THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE E.P.A.'S GREENHOUSE GAS REGISTRY PROGRAM. IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, I'D PROBABLY PREFER TO SEE THE PROGRAM GO AWAY BUT I OFFER A MORE MODEST AMENDMENT TODAY. THIS REDUCES SPENDING FOR PROGRAM BACK TO THE LEVELS FROM 2009. THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE ACTING ON, THE BIGGER BILL, WHICH TAKES US BACK TO 2009. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT CURRENTLY STANDS WITHOUT THIS AMENDMENT 95% HIGHER THAN THE FUNDING FOR THE GREENHOUSE GAS REGISTRY. IN 2009, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, WE WEREN'T SPENDING TOO LITTLE MONEY IN 2009 REGULATING GREENHOUSE GASES IN AMERICA. WE KNOW THAT THE E.P.A. SAYS THAT THIS REGISTRY IS JUST ABOUT DATA COLLECTION, WE JUST WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION BUT THOSE OF US IN KANSAS TRYING TO OPERATE BUSINESSES AND MAKE A GO OF IT KNOW THAT THERE'S AN AGENDA FAR BEYOND THAT. THIS IS AN AGENDA THAT IS JOB KILLING. THIS IS AN AGENDA THAT WILL DESTROY JOBS NOT ONLY IN KANSAS BUT WILL DRIVE UP THE COST OF ENERGY FOR EVERYONE AMERICAN. SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. IF WE SIMPLY RESTORE FUNDING BACK TO THE 2009 LEVEL WE WILL ROLL BACK -- I HOPE AGAIN WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT -- IT WILL CREATE JOBS AND KEEP E.P.A. DOING WHAT THEY OUGHT TO BE DOING. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:46:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE…

    GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. WHO SEEKS RECOGNITION? THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 05:46:21 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I RISE TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT,

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IN OPPOSITION.

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    MR. MORAN

    BECAUSE IT ATTEMPTS TO STRIP HALF OF THE REMAINING FUNDING FOR E.P.A.'S…

    BECAUSE IT ATTEMPTS TO STRIP HALF OF THE REMAINING FUNDING FOR E.P.A.'S GREENHOUSE GAS REGISTRY PROGRAM. THIS AMENDMENT IS PART OF AN EFFORT TO IGNORE WHAT THE SCIENTISTS TELL US IS THE MOST SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM OF OUR TIME, CLIMATE CHANGE. REPUBLICANS HAVE ALREADY PASSED A BILL TO REPEAL A SCIENTIFIC FINDING THAT GREENHOUSE GASES POSE A DANGER TO HOME HEALTH. THE UNDERLYING BILL WE'RE CONSIDERING SAYS THAT NO STATIONARY SOURCE NO MATTER HOW LARGE OR HOW LEATHER TO HUMAN HEALTH SHOULD EVER HAVE TO REDUCE ITS CARBON POLLUTION. BUT THIS AMENDMENT GOES EVEN FURTHER. IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BOTHER HOW MUCH POLLUTION IS BEING PUT INTO THE AIR. I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT THE IGNORANCE IS BLISS AMENDMENT. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS TRYING TO DO. THE BILL ALREADY MAKES A 30% CUT TO THE REGISTRY PROGRAM IN ORDER TO CRIPPLE THE EFFORTS OF E.P.A. WITH REGARD TO GREENHOUSE GASES. THE GREENHOUSE GAS REPORTING PROGRAM SIMPLY REQUIRES THE -- NO. I'LL MAKE ALL OF MY POINTS AND THEN YOU CAN MORE EFFICIENTLY ADDRESS THEM IF WE HAVE TIME. THE GREENHOUSE GAS REPORTING PROGRAM SIMPLY REQUIRES THE LARGEST SOURCES OF CARBON POLLUTION, POWER PLANTS, REFINERIES AND THE VERY LARGEST FACTORIES TO TELL E.P.A. AND THE PUBLIC HOW MUCH THEY POLLUTE. IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO DEAL RESPONSIBLY WITH THIS POLLUTION , IT'S COSTING US BILLIONS IN HEALTH CARE AND SHORTENING THOUSANDS OF LIVES, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM AND HAVE SOME IDEA OF HOW MUCH IS BEING EMITTED. THIS AMENDMENT IS YET ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF PUTTING -- THE PROFITS OF INDUSTRY AND PARTICULARLY THOSE INDUSTRIES WHO POLLUTE THE AIR AND EVENTUALLY CLOG THE WATER, WHO POISON MUCH OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, TO PUT THEIR PROFITS AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. WE ALL KNOW THAT POLLUTION IS DANGEROUS TO OUR HEALTH. THE SCIENTISTS TELL US THAT. CERTAINLY THE REPUTABLE SCIENTISTS. LET'S ALLOW E.P.A. TO FULFILL ITS CORE RESPONSIBILITY WHICH IS TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION AND INFORM THE PUBLIC. I KNOW OUR FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE HATE REGULATIONS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THOSE REGULATIONS ON BUSINESSES AND ON THE ECONOMY AND ON JOBS AND SO ON. E.P.A.'S JOB IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, AND IN DOING SO AND ENCOURAGING CLEANER SOURCES OF ENERGY WE WILL NOT ONLY PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH BUT WE WILL GROW THIS ECONOMY, GROW IS IN A MORE COMPETITIVE AND HEALTHY WAY AND -- IN A FAR MORE SUSTAINABLE MANNER. I OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT VIGOROUSLY, AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD YIELD SOME TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO OFFERED THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:50:04 PM

    MR. POMPEO

    THANK YOU. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I CERTAINLY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT CLEAN AIR. SO…

    THANK YOU. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I CERTAINLY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT CLEAN AIR. SO DO ALL THE BUSINESSES IN KANSAS. SO DO AGRICULTURE. WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND WE'RE DOING IT. YOU SAID THIS WAS THE IGNORANCE IS BLISS AMENDMENT. I'D PREFER TO CALL IT JOBS ARE A GOOD THING AMENDMENT. AND WHEN THINGS GET MISCHARACTERIZED -- I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE ABOLISH THIS. THERE IS STILL $6.2 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR THE GREENHOUSE GAS REGISTRY. MANY ON YOUR SIDE VOTED FOR IT BEFORE WHEN I OFFERED IT BEFORE. I THANK YOU FOR YIELDING THE TIME.

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  • 05:50:42 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I WAS HAPPY TO YIELD. I'LL RECLAIMING MY TIME. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT…

    I WAS HAPPY TO YIELD. I'LL RECLAIMING MY TIME. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT MORE INFORMATION, ACCURATE INFORMATION SHOULD NOT BE A THREAT. ISN'T IT APPROPRIATE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW -- IN FACT, TO LET LAWMAKERS KNOW WHO MIGHT NEED TO RESPOND HOW LETHAL IS THE POLLUTION, HOW SUBSTANTIAL IS THE POLLUTION, WHAT'S THE COMPOSITION OF THE POLLUTION COMING FROM THE VERY LARGEST POLLUTERS? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OUR PEOPLE? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OUR ENVIRONMENT? WHAT ARE THE SOURCES OF THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SPENDING IN HEALTH CARE, TWICE AS MUCH AS ANY COUNTRY SPENDS ON A PER CAPITA BASIS? ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO HAVE A REGISTRY, INFORMATION THAT OUGHT NOT BE THREATENING. THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DEFEATED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 05:51:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

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    MR. DICKS

    MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DICKS

    A FEW YEARS AGO THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT E.P.A., UNDER THE CLEAN AIR…

    A FEW YEARS AGO THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT E.P.A., UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT, HAD TO COME UP WITH AND LOOK AT THE CONSEQUENCES OF GREENHOUSE GASES. AND TO CREATE THIS REGISTRY WHICH IS A SCIENTIFIC DOCUMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO KNOW JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE VARIOUS SOURCES OF THESE GREENHOUSE GASES ARE. NOW WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THERE IS ANOTHER MORE IMMEDIATE PROBLEM. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OUR OCEANS. KANSAS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COUNTRY. THE OCEANS ARE NOW A SINK FOR CARBON DIOXIDE. AS WE GET MORE AND MORE CO-2 IN THE OCEAN IT CREATES ACIDITY, THE SO-CALLED P.H. FACTOR, WHICH AT NORMAL RANGE IS AT 8.1 AND WHEN IT GOES DOWN -- WE HAVE PLACES IN HOOD CANAL IN MY AREA THAT'S DOWN TO 7.3. AT THAT LEVEL IT STARTS TO TAKE APART CORAL. IT STARTS TO TAKE APART OYSTER SHELLS. AND IT STARTS TO TAKE AWAY THE FOOD FOR SALMON. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONDITION, SO THE MORE WE CAN LEARN ABOUT OUR GREENHOUSE GASES AND WHAT THEIR EFFECT IS NOT ONLY ON OUR CLIMATE BUT ALSO ON THE OCEAN AND WE ARE POISONING THE OCEAN. AGAIN, THERE'S THIS NOT LET'S TAKE TIME TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE SOMEHOW IT'S GOING TO CUT AWAY JOBS. IT MAY END CIVILIZATION. THINK ABOUT THAT. YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, YOUR CHILDREN, MAYBE YOU'RE YOUNGER, I WORRY ABOUT THEM. I WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH THIS CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE, AND WE SHOULD TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THE BEST SCIENTISTS IN THE WORLD SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH. SO, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IDEA OF TAKING OUT THE MONEY FOR THE GREENHOUSE GAS REGISTRY SO THAT WE'LL HAVE A SCIENTIFIC UNDERPINNING TO KNOW WHETHER -- WHAT THESE PROBLEMS ARE AND HOW MUCH VARIOUS SOURCES PRODUCE IS JUST -- IS THE IGNORANCE IS BLISS AMENDMENT. LET'S DEFEAT THIS AMENDMENT AND LET THE E.P.A. DO THEIR JOB. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:54:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE QUESTION'S ON THE…

    GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE QUESTION'S ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. POMPEO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS RISE?

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  • 05:54:49 PM

    MR. POMPEO

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. POMPEO, WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 05:55:02 PM

    THE CLERK

    LINE 1, OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL, $41,099,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL…

    LINE 1, OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL, $41,099,000 TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. BUILDING OF OFFICE --

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  • 05:55:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MS.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 05:55:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. RICHARDSON

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THE RICHARDSON…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THE RICHARDSON AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION TO THE DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS VERA GRANTS, BY CUTTING $10 MILLION FROM THE E.P.A. BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES ACCOUNT. THE RICHARDSON AMENDMENT IS ABOUT CREATING JOBS, SAVING LIVES AND IMPROVING OUR NATION'S AIR QUALITY. MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE LAST CONGRESS I INTRODUCED LEGISLATION THAT EXTENDED DEARA FOR FIVE YEARS. THE DEARA LEGISLATION RECEIVED LARGE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND WAS LATER SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT OBAMA. WHEN YOU CONSIDER DERA, IT IS SUPPORTED BY A COALITION OF 500 LEADING TRANSPORTATION, ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS. I REPRESENT A REGION THAT'S HOME TO THE LARGEST PORT COMPLEX IN THE NATION AND CONSISTS OF SOME OF THE BUSIEST FREEWAYS AND RAILWAYS IN OUR COUNTRY. HOWEVER, THE AREA ALSO SUFFERS FROM POOR AIR QUALITY WHICH HAS LED TO MUCH HIGHER RATES OF ASTHMA AND CANCER THAN ANY OTHER AREA IN THE NATION. DERA IMPROVES OUR AIR QUALITY BY REDUCING THE CO-2 EMISSIONS BY UP TO 35,600 TONS PER YEAR. IT HAS BEEN ESTIMATED THAT NEARLY 2,000 LIVES WILL BE SAVED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THROUGH DERA AND ITS INCREASED IN SUPPORT ON OUR AIR QUALITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BILL BEFORE US TODAY REDUCES THE FUNDING FOR DERA GRANTS BY $19.9 MILLION WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 LEVEL. THE E.P.A. ESTIMATES THAT DERA PROGRAM AVERAGES MORE THAN $13 IN HEALTH AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR EVERY $1 WE AUTHORIZE IN FUNDING. THE E.P.A. ALSO ESTIMATES THAT DERA SAVES MORE THAN 3.2 MILLION GALLONS OF FUEL ANNUALLY WHICH MEANS THAT TRUCKERS AND OTHER DIESEL OPERATORS WILL SPEND $8 MILLION LESS ON FUEL. MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S LESS DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL. IN THESE TIGHT ECONOMIC TIMES, IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE INVEST IN PROGRAMS THAT WORK AND ARE COST-EFFECTIVE. THE C.B.O. SCORE ON THE RICHARDSON AMENDMENT SHOWS IT WILL DECREASE THE BUDGET AUTHORITY BY $5 MILLION WITHOUT CREATING ANY NEW BUDGET OUTLAYS. SIMPLY PUT, THE RICHARDSON AMENDMENT SAVES MONEY. SINCE DERA FUNDING BEGAN IN 2007, MORE THAN 3,000 PROJECTS NATIONWIDE HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS PROGRAM. IN FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN NINE PROJECTS IN THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY AREA WHERE I RESIDE ALONE. MR. CHAIRMAN, DERA PROJECTS HAVE CREATED JOBS AND IMPROVED AIR QUALITY IN MY DISTRICT AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT SAVES LIVES AND CREATES JOBS WHICH IS CERTAINLY WHAT WE NEED AND SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT MORE IN THESE DARK HOURS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE RICHARDSON AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:58:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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  • 05:58:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    OFFSET. THE DERA PROGRAM, AS THE GENTLEMAN IS AWARE OF, WAS SET TO BE --…

    OFFSET. THE DERA PROGRAM, AS THE GENTLEMAN IS AWARE OF, WAS SET TO BE -- IT WAS NOT IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S MARK.

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  • 05:58:59 PM

    MR. CALVERT

    AND THIS UNDERLYING BILL, WE PROVIDE FOR $10 MILLION FOR THE DERA PROGRAM.…

    AND THIS UNDERLYING BILL, WE PROVIDE FOR $10 MILLION FOR THE DERA PROGRAM. AS SHE WELL KNOWS, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THIS IS A WAY TO REMOVE OLD DIESEL ENGINES THAT POLLUTE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM, IT'S NOT A STUDY, IT'S NOT SOME ACADEMIC EXERCISE. IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT CLEANS UP THE AIR, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF. RIGHT NOW E.P.A.'S BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES ACCOUNTS ARE CUT BY NEARLY A THIRD. WE HAVE CUT BACK THESE ACCOUNTS SUBSTANTIALLY, AND SO WE JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THE OFFSET.

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  • 05:59:38 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD.

  • 05:59:41 PM

    MR. CALVERT

    TO YIELD.

  • 05:59:44 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    FROM -- DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TAKING IS OUTLAID AS REQUIRED. SO I DON'T…

    FROM -- DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TAKING IS OUTLAID AS REQUIRED. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE A HURT TO THAT ACCOUNT.

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  • 06:00:00 PM

    MR. CALVERT

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK?

  • 06:00:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK?

  • 06:00:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 06:00:48 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 06:00:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 06:00:54 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I AGREE WITH THE DISTINGUISHED MEMBER FROM CALIFORNIA. I KNOW MY…

    I AGREE WITH THE DISTINGUISHED MEMBER FROM CALIFORNIA. I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE, SHE'S MORE THAN A COLLEAGUE A GOOD FRIEND, IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. IT HAS A SWEET ACRONYM, DEARA. BUT AS I SAID DURING H.R. 1 DEBATE, THE DIESEL EMISSIONS PROGRAM IS A GOOD PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. RIGHT NOW, WITH REGARD TO THIS AMENDMENT, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE RAIDING OTHER E.P.A. ACCOUNTS TO GIVE THIS DIESEL PROGRAM EVEN MORE FUNDING THAN IT ACTUALLY HAS ALREADY GOTTEN IN THIS BILL. CHAIRMAN SIMPSON FUNDED THE DIESEL PROGRAM AT $30 MILLION EVEN THOUGH PRESIDENT OBAMA REQUESTED NOTHING FOR IT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ADD A MERE $5 MILLION BUT IT WOULD TAKE $10 MILLION FROM E.P.A.'S BUILDINGS TO PAY FOR IT. MAYBE POLITICALLY ATTRACTIVE TO TAKE FROM A BUILDING'S ACCOUNT UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT IT FUNDS. THE FOLLOWING FACILITIES WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP FUNDING TO ADD THIS $5 MILLION TO THE DIESEL PROGRAM. THE ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, NATIONAL VEHICLE AND FUEL EMISSIONS LAB. THE ANDREW BRADENBACK ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH CENT FOR THE CINCINNATI, OHIO, THE REGION 9 OFFICE IN SAN FRANCISCO, THE RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK MAIN LARAER TO IN -- LABORATORY IN NORTH CAROLINA. IN THAT REGARD, THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED SO WE CAN SAVE FUTURE LEASE COSTS THAT WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY IF WE TAKE THIS MONEY AWAY FROM THE RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK LAB. THENARY GANS ET RESEARCH LAB WOULD BE CUT. THE AIR AND RADIATION LAB IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA. ALL OF THESE FACILITIES HAVE REQUESTS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR 2012 BUDGET FOR NEEDED FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS. TO CUT THOSE IN ORDER TO INCREASE A PROGRAM THAT WAS ALREADY PLUSED UP $30 MILLION ABOVE THE REQUEST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT FILED FROM ANOTHER MEMBER AND I SEE HER HERE, SO I SUSPECT IT'S GOING TO COME UP RIGHT NOW TO TAKE AWAY THE $30 MILLION THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BILL. I WOULD HOPE MY GOOD FRIEND WOULD STICK AROUND TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD AND ADDRESS THIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ZERO OUT THE DIESEL PROGRAM. I DON'T WANT TO ZERO IT OUT BUT NEITHER DO I WANT TO ZERO OUT MONEY FOR SIX IMPORTANT E.P.A. FACILITIES. SO I HOPE THE SUPPORTERS OF THE DIESEL PROGRAM WILL STICK AROUND, WILL DEFEND IT, AGAINST ITS ELIMINATION, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT THAT'S COMING UP VERY SOON. BUT RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WISEST THING TO DO IS TO TRY TO PROTECT THE $30 MILLION THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PROGRAM WHICH IS $30 MILLION MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED. I YIELD BACK MY TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 06:04:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE -- THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE -- THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. MS.

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  • 06:04:28 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER…

    RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY -- OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. THE FIRST AMENDMENT BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON, THE SECOND AMENDMENT BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON, THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC BY MR. LATOURETTE OF OHIO, AMENDMENT NUMBER 39 BY MR. POMPEO OF KANSAS, AND AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 BY MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO FIVE MINUTES THE TIME FOR ANY ELECTRONIC VOTES IN THIS SERIES AFTER THE FIRST 15-MINUTE VOTE. S THAT 15-MINUTE VOTE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:05:48 PM

    THE CLERK

    FIRST AMENDMENT, OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON.

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    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:28:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 174, THE NAYS ARE 237, AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE…

    YEAS ARE 174, THE NAYS ARE 237, AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. DICKS, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:28:50 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON.

  • 06:28:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:35:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    NAYS ARE 250 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS…

    NAYS ARE 250 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. LATOURETTE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:36:03 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENTS EN BLOC OFFERED BY MR. LA DUES REOF -- LATOURETTE OF OHIO.

  • 06:36:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:42:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 220 THE NAYS ARE 206, AND THE AMENDMENT IS…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 220 THE NAYS ARE 206, AND THE AMENDMENT IS PASSED. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 39 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. POMPEO, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:42:49 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 39, PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 39, PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, OFFERED BY MR. POMPEO OF KANSAS.

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  • 06:42:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED AND MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS WILL BE A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:49:09 PM

    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MS. RICHARDSON OF…

    PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 06:49:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. AND THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:55:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE YEAS ARE 193 AND THE NAYS ARE 2 2 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.…

    THE YEAS ARE 193 AND THE NAYS ARE 2 2 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. THE NAYS ARE 232 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.

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  • 06:56:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    COME TO ORDER. MEMBERS, PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR. THE…

    COME TO ORDER. MEMBERS, PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 06:57:00 PM

    THE CLERK

    11, HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE SUPERFUND $1 ,295,000. 1050 $69,000.

  • 06:57:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL SUSPEND. IF MEMBERS WILL PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS FROM…

    CLERK WILL SUSPEND. IF MEMBERS WILL PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR. THE CLERK MAY CONTINUE. $$18,2774,000. $2 BILLION 393,000.

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  • 06:57:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISE? BLUNBLUN I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT…

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISE? BLUNBLUN I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK --

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  • 06:57:58 PM

    MRS. BLACKBURN

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. QUHARMENTE WILL THE MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE…

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. QUHARMENTE WILL THE MEMBERS PLEASE TAKE THEIR CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.

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  • 06:58:08 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MRS. BLACKBURN OF TENNESSEE, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MRS. BLACKBURN OF TENNESSEE, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT REDUCE BY $30 MILLION. INSERT REDUCED BY $30 MILLION. AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASED BY $30 MILLION.

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  • 06:58:32 PM

    MRS. BLACKBURN

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY COMMENDING OUR…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY COMMENDING OUR APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO CLAW BACK THIS MONEY AND REDUCE SPENDING BELOW THE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE HAD LAST YEAR OR THE LEVELS IN THE C.R. THEY HAVE INDEED DONE AN EXEMPLARY JOB BUT I THINK DURING THESE EXTRAORDINARY AND UNPRECEDENTED TIMES, WE HAVE TO DO MORE AND THIS DIESEL EMISSION REDUCTION PROGRAM IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SAY, INDEED THIS IS DUPLICATIVE AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE CAN ELIMINATE THE $30 MILLION AND MOVE THAT FUBBED FUNDING INTO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THE GRANT PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY E.P.A. THAT SEEKS TO REDUCE DIESEL EMISSIONS BY PROVIDING FUNDS FOR TECHNOLOGIES TO RETROFIT EXISTING VEHICLES AND INFRASTRUCTURE NOT SUBJECT TO UPDATED DIESEL AIR STANDARDS. NOW NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, YES, IT WAS IMPORTANT, AND HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THEY HAVE DONE GRANTS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. NOW, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FISCAL YEAR 2012 BUDGET RECOMMENDS COMPLETELY ELIMINATING FUNDING FOR THE GRANT. THERE IS A REASON THAT IT HAS DONE THAT. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT -- THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT IS BECAUSE SINCE 2007, NEW DIESEL ENGINES HAVE TO COMPLY WITH A MUCH HIGHER EMISSIONS STANDARD. THEREFORE, IT IS DECREASING THE NEED FOR RETROFITS. THERE'S ALSO OTHER FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR SUCH RETROFITS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. CONGESTION MITIGATION AND AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THEY HAVE ABOUT $45 MILLION FOR DIESEL RETRO FITS ANNUALLY AND THROUGH THE E.P.A.'S SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT ENFORCEMENT, WHERE THERE'S $7.1 MILLION FOR THAT. THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS WITH SIMILAR GRANTS. THE E.P.A.'S SMART GROWTH PROGRAM. THE E.P.A.'S PERFORMANCE PARTNERSHIP GRANT. THE CLEAN FUELS FORMULA GRANT. INDEED, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT INCREASED FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM ABOVE THE $60 MILLION LEVEL IN PLACE SINCE THE FISCAL YEAR 2009 WHEN IT RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL $300 MILLION IN THE STIMULUS ACT. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN SAY INDEED HAS BEEN A HELPFUL PROGRAM BUT IT IS DUPLICATIVE. IT HAS OUTLIVED ITS USEFULNESS BECAUSE THERE ARE EMISSIONS STANDARDS ON DIESEL VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2007, THERE IS LESS NEED FOR THESE GRANTS. INDEED, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, AS WE WERE DEBATING THE C.R., HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE -- THAT WE USE THIS PROGRAM THAT -- AN OFFSET WITH THIS PROGRAM AND ELIMINATE THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM. MR. MORAN HAD OFFERED AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT WE DO THAT AND ONE OF THE REASON HE IS GAVE WAS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAD ELIMINATED IT IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE THE TRUCK INDUSTRY TO INCREASE ITS OWN DIESEL R&D. I AGREE WITH THAT. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD SAVE $30 MILLION. I KNOW THAT IT IS DUPLICATIVE. WE NEED TO SAVE EVERY PENNY WE CAN POSSIBLY SAVE OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY. THIS IS A STEP THAT WE SHOULD TAKE. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:03:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:03:14 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:03:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:03:21 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY. IF YOU LOOK…

    I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US TODAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE DERA PROGRAM, IT'S ONE OF THE RARE PROGRAMS IN THIS HOUSE THAT'S ENJOYED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FROM DAY ONE. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM AND THE CONTINUED AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED ON THIS FLOOR, IT'S GARNERED SUPPORT. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY. THERE'S EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT FOR EVERY $1 OF INVESTMENT THAT'S MADE INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, $13 IS RECEIVED BACK. $13 IN ECONOMIC BENEFITS, IN TERMS OF JOBS AND IN TERMS OF HEALTH SAVINGS. WHY? DERA IS THE DIESEL EMISSION PROGRAM. I WOULD SAY IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO HONESTLY BELIEVES THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WHO IS DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAYS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND SEES THE SPEWING OF SMOG AND SOOT COMING OUT OF TRUCKS THINKS THAT WE NO LONGER NEED THIS PROGRAM? THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TRUCKS ON OUR HIGHWAYS. IF THIS PROGRAM WEREN'T NEEDED I WOULD SUGGEST THEN WHY ARE WE RECEIVING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF APPLICATIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY? WHEN THE TRUCKS HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND WE HAVE REDUCED THE EMISSIONS, THEN THERE WILL BE THE TIME TO RE-EVALUATE THIS PROGRAM. BUT THAT TIME IS NOT NOW. WE ARE FINALLY MAKING PROGRESS AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE DIESEL EMISSION PROGRAM. YES, IT HELPS US REDUCE THE OLD TRUCKS ON THE HIGHWAYS. BUT WHAT DOES IT ALSO DO? BY HAVING DIESEL EMISSION, IT ALLOWS US TO ALSO SAVE IN TERMS OF FUEL BEING USED. WE ALL KNOW OUR DEPENDENCY CURRENTLY ON FOREIGN OIL. SO WHEN WE CONSIDER THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OIL THAT WE HAVE TO PURCHASE, THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE PURCHASING, THAT TRUCKERS ARE PURCHASING, IT REDUCES THAT COST OF OUR DEPENDENCE ON OIL. IT REDUCES THE COST OF WHAT THE END USERS RECEIVE WHEN THEY'RE GETTING THE VARIOUS PRODUCTS. LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OLD TRUCKS, IF WE CAN INCENTIVIZE TRUCKERS TO BE ABLE TO UPGRADE THEIR EQUIPMENT, WHICH WOULD INCRUDE FILTERS, PROTECTION WITH DIESEL EMISSIONS, OFTENTIMES THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS THAT THEY'RE GAINING WITH THOSE VEHICLES, SO WE'RE ALSO SAVING LIVES. I WOULD SAY ANY SUGGESTION TO THIS AMENDMENT IS SHORTSIGHTED AND ILL-ADVISED. THIS IS A GOOD WORKING PROGRAM AND THE MAKER OF THE AMENDMENT AGREES TO THAT. IT GARNERS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT TO -- SUGGEST TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND STRONGLY URGE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD JOIN US IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. LET'S KEEP THIS PROGRAM THAT IS WORKING IN THIS COUNTRY AND LET'S ADDRESS THE DESPERATE DIESEL EMISSIONS IMPACTING ASTHMA AND MANY HEALTH ISSUES IN OUR COUNTRY. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:06:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE? MR.

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  • 07:06:17 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:06:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINS.

  • 07:06:23 PM

    MR. MORAN

    TO OPPOSE THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT. I THINK IT'S INSTRUCTIVE TO POINT…

    TO OPPOSE THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT. I THINK IT'S INSTRUCTIVE TO POINT OUT, I OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO STRIKE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM DURING H.R. 1 BACK IN FEBRUARY. SO THAT WE COULD ADD FUNDS TO THE NORTH AMERICAN WETLANDS CONSERVATION PROGRAM. NEW MY COLLEAGUE FROM TENNESSEE -- NOW MY COLLEAGUE FROM TENNESSEE, LET ME CHECK THE RECORD HERE, VOTED NO, SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED THAT NOW, A FEW MONTHS LATER, FIVE MONTHS LATER, SHE HAS CHANGED HER MIND. IT SEEMS TO ME MY AMENDMENT FROM FEBRUARY WOULD HAVE BEEN PREFERABLE TO THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE ANGLERS AND HUNTERS IN THEIR DISTRICT, WHICH I SUSPECT THE GENTLELADY FROM TENNESSEE DOES. THEY RELY UPON HEALTHY WETLANDS, WHICH HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH ENDANGERED BY WHAT WAS AN ELIMINATION OF THE NORTH AMERICAN WETLANDS CONSERVATION IN THIS BILL. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY THROWS AWAY THE NEEDED FUNDING AND I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS HOW NEEDED THAT FUNDING IS. SO IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT OUR AMENDMENT TO RESTORE MONEY FOR WETLANDS MADE MORE SENSE. NOW IN THE MEANTIME, NOT ONLY DID I LOSE THAT VOTE, THE -- MRS. BLACKBURN WAS ON THE WINNING SIDE, NOT TO ELIMINATE THAT MONEY, LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE COMPELLING ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MS. RICHARDSON AT THE TIME. IN THE MEANTIME, SHE HAS CONTINUED TO LOBBY FOR THIS PROGRAM, I FOUND SOME OF HER ARGUMENTS CONVINCING. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT THAT THE CHAIRMAN ADDED. WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS ADDED TO THE BILL. SO WE WOULD AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN, LET'S LEAVE IT IN THE BILL EVEN THOUGH IT HAD BEEN ZEROED OUT BY THE PRESIDENT. SO I THINK MS. RICHARDSON NOT ONLY WON THAT VOTE BACK IN FEBRUARY, KIND OF AN EMBARRASSING TOTAL, ACTUALLY SHE WON IT OVERWHELMINGLY, BUT I THINK SHE SHOULD WIN THIS VOTE AS WELL. THE MONEY SHOULD BE KEPT IN THE PROGRAM, $30 MILLION DOES SEEM TO BE DOING SOME GOOD THINGS AND SO I WOULD OPPOSE THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT TO ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM AND NOT EVEN USE THE $30 MILLION FOR ANY OTHER CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 07:09:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:09:06 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:09:12 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE FUNDING FOR…

    WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE FUNDING FOR THE DIESEL ELIMINATION REDUCTIONS GRANT, I KNEW THERE WAS A GIMMICK WE'D HAVE TO BACK PHIL. THIS WAS SOMETHING I DISCUSSED WITH THE E.P.A. DIRECTOR. THE DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION PROGRAM IS A PROVEN PROGRAM WITH NO UNQUALIFIABLE HEALTH BENEFITS. IT ALLOWS MONEY TO RETROFIT DIESEL ENGINES TO REDUCE POLLUTION. THIS GRANT PROVIDES $13 OF BENEFIT FOR $1 FEDERAL DOLLAR. IT REDUCED BLACK CARBON EMISSIONS BY 90%. WHEN I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATOR WHY SHE WOULD PROPOSE TO ELIMINATE FUNDING FOR A PROGRAM WITH PROVEN TECHNOLOGY THAT WORKS IN ORDER TO FUND NEW, NICE TO HAVE, VOLUNTARY INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO, SHE RESPONDED THAT IT WAS A TOUGH BUDGET CHOICE. THEY WAS WRONG CHOICE. I THINK THE COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THIS PROGRAM, HAS IN THE PAST, AS I SAID, IT'S A PROVEN PROGRAM THAT HAS PROVEN RESULTS AND THAT'S WHY WE BACKFILLED THE REQUEST EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T REQUEST ANY FUNDING FOR THIS TO PUT $30 MILLION IN IT IS $20 MILLION BELOW WHAT WAS FUNDED AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, SO IT DID HAVE A REDUCTION JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PROGRAM, BUT WE DID KEEP IT ALIVE AT $30 MILLION. I YIELD TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TENNESSEE.

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  • 07:10:41 PM

    MRS. BLACKBURN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. WE'RE ALL FOR CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. WE'RE ALL FOR CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER AND A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT. I THINK DURING THESE TIMES WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY. MR. MORAN IS RIGHT, I DID VOTE AGAINST HIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS GOING TO WETLANDS AND NOT INTO A SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS DUPLICATIVE. THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS ON THE BOOKS, AS WE LOOK AT HOW TO REMOVE THESE REDUNDANCIES AND THE DUPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE CAN DO IT. WE ALL WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE -- WE CLEAN UP THE DIESEL EMISSIONS BUT I WOULD REMIND YOU ALL, SINCE 2008, THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF 500 GRANTS THAT THE E.P.A. HAS GIVEN THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. A TOTAL OF 500. AND WE HAVE FOUR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT DO THIS SAME WORK. THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE CAN GO AND ACHIEVE A SAVINGS, IT IS $30 MILLION, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THE FEDERAL SPENDING UNDER CONTROL. I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 07:12:03 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I THANK THE GENTLELADY AND YIELD BACK MY TIME.

  • 07:12:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM TENNESSEE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 07:12:17 PM

    MRS. BLACKBURN

    RECORDED VOTE, PLEASE.

  • 07:12:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,…

    GENTLELADY REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE GENTLEWOMAN'S AMENDMENT WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:12:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK RILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA, PAGE 68, LINE 24, AFTER…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MS. RICHARDSON OF CALIFORNIA, PAGE 68, LINE 24, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT INCREASED BY $5 MILLION. PAGE 76, LINE 22, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, INSERT REDUCED BY $5 MILLION.

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  • 07:12:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:12:59 PM

    MS. RICHARDSON

    THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON RICHARDSON AMENDMENT NUMBER. THIS…

    THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON RICHARDSON AMENDMENT NUMBER. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DIRECT $5 MILLION FOR CLEAN AIR GRANTS WHICH WERE CUT BY NEARLY 15% IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATION. AIR POLLUTION IS A NATIONAL PROBLEM. ACCORDING TO THE E.P.A., APPROXIMATELY 127 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE IN COUNTIES THAT EXCEED AT LEAST ONE OF THE HEALTH-BASED NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR QUALITY STANDARDS IN 2008. NEW HEALTH-BASED STANDARDS FOR OZONES WILL LIKELY INCREASE THIS NUMBER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I REPRESENT A REGION THAT'S HOME TO THE LARGEST PORT COMPLEX IN THE NATION AND CONSISTENTS OF AND CONSISTS OF SOME OF THE BUSIEST FREEWAYS IN THE COUNTRY. HOWEVER, IT SUFFERS POOR AIR QUALITY WHICH LED TO HIGHER RATES OF ASTHMA THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. EXPOSURE TO DIRTY AIR CAUSES TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PREMATURE DEATHS EACH YEAR AND CAUSES PROBLEMS SUCH AS THE AGGRAVATION OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASES, DIFFICULTY BREATHING, INCREASED SUSPEPTABILITY TO RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS, ADVERSE EFFECTS ON LEARNS, MEMORY, I.Q., AN BEHAVIOR, AS WELL AS CANCER. IMPROVEMENTS IN AIR QUALITY, LEAD TO GREATER PRODUCTIVITY, FEWER SICK DAYS AND LESS MONEY SPENT ON HEALTH CARE TO ADDRESS AIR-RELATED PROBLEMS. STATE AND LOCAL AIR POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCIES HAVE THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY TO IMPLEMENT THE NATION'S CLEAN AIR PROGRAMS REQUIRED BY THE CLEAN AIR ACT. HOWEVER, DUE TO THIS CURRENT RECESSION, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE INCREASINGLY STRAPPED FOR RESOURCES AND ARE FINDING IT EVER MORE DIFFICULT TO CARRY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S SHARE OF FUNDING THIS RESPONSIBILITY. BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUING ADVERSE IMPACTS OF THIS RECESSION ON STATE AND LOCALITIES, AIR AGENCIES WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE MORE PAINFUL DECISIONS SUCH AS REDUCING OR CUTTING AIR PROGRAMS THAT PROTECT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE TOOK 10 STEPS FORWARD AND NOW WE'RE TAKING 20 BACK. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT CLEAN AIR GRANTS ARE EFFECTIVE. WHEN YOU CONSIDER IN AN AREA OF MINE THAT'S HOME TO 16.8 MILLION PEOPLE AND IT'S ONE OF THE SMOGGIEST AREAS IN THE NATION, THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCIES FOR ORANGE COUNTY AND LOS ANGELES URBAN AREAS, RIVERSIDE AND SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES AS WELL. CLEAN AIR AGENCIES ALSO ASSIST COMPANIES IN BEING ABLE TO HELP THEM TO COMPLY WITH CLEAN AIR ACT REGULATIONS. THIS ASSISTANCE HAS ALLOWED MANY BUSINESSES TO EXPAND AND TO CREATE JOBS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT CLEAN AIR, SUPPORT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SUPPORT AMERICAN JOBS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:15:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 07:16:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE FROM VIRGINIA ONCE SAID THAT HE WOULD…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE FROM VIRGINIA ONCE SAID THAT HE WOULD HEAR THIS ON THE FLOOR AND I GUESS THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THAT HE'S GOING TO HEAR IT.

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  • 07:16:12 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    THAT IS THE GENTLEMAN MAKES A GOOD POINT. BUT GIVEN THE ALLOCATION THAT WE…

    THAT IS THE GENTLEMAN MAKES A GOOD POINT. BUT GIVEN THE ALLOCATION THAT WE HAVE AND THE LOW FUNDING LEVEL, FRANKLY WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO WHAT SHE'S REQUESTING. HER OFFSET IS TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND -- CAPITOL MA IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM -- MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CUT BY $94 MILLION IN THIS BILL. WE'VE HAD TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND WHILE WE HAVEN'T ELIMINATED FUNDING FOR THIS, OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO PUT BACK INTO IT AND EVERY PROGRAM IS GOING TO HAVE TO -- IS GOING TO HAVE TO SUFFER SOME CUTS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM OR ALLOCATION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CUT BY NEARLY $100 MILLION, SO I WOULD OPPOSE THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT AND HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD OPPOSE IT ALSO.

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  • 07:17:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT.

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  • 07:17:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MARYLAND RISE?

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:17:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:17:39 PM

    MS. EDWARDS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE DOWN HERE THIS EVENING…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE DOWN HERE THIS EVENING DEBATING THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. IN PART BECAUSE FOR THE NUMBERS OF HOURS THAT WE'VE SPENT IN THIS CHAMBER ON THIS BILL WHEN WE ACTUALLY SHOULD BE FACING THE NATION'S DEBT CEILING, GIVING THE PRESIDENT A CLEAN DEBT CEILING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH REBUILDING OUR ECONOMY AND CREATING JOBS, INSTEAD WE'RE DEBATING YET ANOTHER FLAWED BILL. IT'S THE BIGGEST ASSAULT ON CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER AND THE ENDANGERED SPECIES, PUBLIC LAND THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY. THE BILL'S UNPRESS DENLTSED FUNDING CUTS AND POLLUTER RIDERS DO BENEFIT RICH AND OFTEN RECKLESS MINING AND OIL COMPANIES WILL CRIPPLE THE E.P.A.'S EMPLOYEES, HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, SCIENTISTS, ALL OF THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOBS, PROTECTING OUR NATION AND ITS PUBLIC HEALTH. RATHER THAN CELEBRATING THE ADVANCEMENTS OF THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS IN AIR AND WATER QUALITY, INSTEAD THESE REPUBLICAN RIDERS TO RUIN ARE DRIVING US BACK TO THE 1960'S, A TIME WHEN RACHEL CARSON WROTE "SILENT SPRING" TO AWAKEN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO THE MANMADE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL -- MAN-MADE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO DISCUSS A COUPLE OF THEM. THERE ARE SO MANY THAT IT'S A TOUGH CHALLENGE, THESE REPUBLICAN RIDERS TO RUIN. THE BILL WOULD PROHIBIT FUNDING TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT LISTINGS. HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS HAVE BEEN PROTECTED UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. THE BILL WOULD ELIMB THE PROTECTION OF THE REPOPULATION APP -- ELIMINATE THE PROTECTION AND REPOPULATION OF THE BALD EAGLE IN OUR NATION. WE'RE ABOUT READY TO DECIMATE THE VERY ACT THAT PROTECTS OUR NATION'S SIMILARBLE, THE BALD EAGLE -- SYMBOL, THE BALD EAGLE. AMONG OTHER THINGS THE BILL ALSO STRIKES OUT AT ENDING REGULATIONS TO EXPAND THE STORM WATER DISCHARGE PROGRAM UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT. THE PROGRAM PREEVENTUALITIES HARMFUL POLLUTANTS FROM BEING WASHED OR DUMPS INTO OUR WATER SYSTEMS AND AS OUR CITIES AND URBANIZED AREAS GROW, STORM WATER RUNOFF CAN BECOME A THREAT IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BETTER MANAGE THE DISCHARGED WATER AND POSSIBLE IMPACT OF TOXINS AND POLLUTANTS. AND HERE WE ARE, SOMETHING I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE, I RECALL TAKING MY SON TO THE GRAND CANYON AND CAMPING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE SOUTH RIM MANY YEARS AGO. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? WE CAN PITCH OUR TENTS NEXT TO THE URANIUM MINES AT THE GRAND CANYON? THIS IS INSANE. FOR THE FIVE MILLION VISITORS A YEAR WHO VISIT THE GRAND CANYON, WE'RE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE WATER QUALITY OF OUR NATION'S MOST IMPORTANT RIVERS, I CAN'T IMAGINE FAMILIES VISITING THE GRAND CANYON, I CAN'T IMAGINE FUTURE GENERATIONS PITCHING THEIR TENT NEXT TO THE GRAND CANYON, NEXT TO A URANIUM MINE BECAUSE OF THIS SENSELESS LEGISLATION. IT ALMOST MAKES YOU BREATHLESS TO WONDER WHY IT IS THAT WE'VE DECIDED THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE A ROLE ANYMORE IN PROTECTING OUR WATER AND OUR LAND AND OUR AIR AND OUR AIR QUALITY. THE MAJORITY'S PUSHING A BILL ON THE FLOOR THAT BLOCKS THE CLEAN AIR ACT REGULATION OF FINE PARTICLES AND SOOT AND DELAYS THE E.P.A. FROM ELIMINATING TOXIC MERCURY POLLUTION FROM POWER PLANTS. I MEAN, WHY DON'T WE JUST BREAK UP OUR THERMOMETERS AND DUMP THEM IN THE WATER? I'M NOT SURE WHO THESE RIDERS ARE MEANT TO HELP BUT I KNOW THEY DON'T HELP CHILDREN AND COMMUNITIES IN MY DISTRICT AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO ARE VULNERABLE TO AIR POLLUTION. 30% OF CHILDHOOD ASTHMA IS DUE TO ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURES, COSTING THE NATION $2 BILLION PER YEAR. THESE RIDERS ADD TO THE ARSENAL, THEY JUST ADD TO THE ARSENAL. LOW INCOME AND MINORITY CHILDREN EXPERIENCING MORE DOCTOR VISITS AND HOSPITALIZATION DUE TO ASTHMA THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION AND THREE TIMES THE RATE OF WHITE AMERICANS. THIS IS A REALLY SAD DAY, BUT IT'S MOST ESPECIALLY SAD BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE DOING THE NATION'S BUSINESS. TODAY WE WATCHED THE STOCK MARKET PLUMMET BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY THAT WE'VE CREATED IN THIS BODY BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY. AND SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS HORRIBLE INTERIOR E.P.A. APPROPRIATIONS BILL, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIX THIS NATION'S ECONOMY, GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, BUILDING OUR ROADS AND OUR BRIDGES AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL PARKS AND INSTEAD WE'RE ENGAGED IN THE SILLYNESS OF TRYING TO PLAY DICE AND CHICKEN WITH THE AMERICAN ECONOMY. IT'S A REALLY SAD DAY FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, JUST A REALLY SAD DAY AND WITH THAT I YIELD.

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  • 07:22:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:22:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:22:26 PM

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    THANK YOU. THE MAJORITY HAS BEEN SAYING HOW CONCERNS THEY ARE ABOUT FUTURE…

    THANK YOU. THE MAJORITY HAS BEEN SAYING HOW CONCERNS THEY ARE ABOUT FUTURE GENERATIONS, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE OVERBURDENING THEM WITH OUR DEBT. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. MRS.

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  • 07:22:38 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    THAT'S WHY, MR. SPEAKER, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE…

    THAT'S WHY, MR. SPEAKER, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE URGENT DEBT CRISIS WE ARE ON THE FLOOR DEBATING A BILL THAT WILL GUT POLLUTION CONTROLS AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTIONS IN ORDER TO BOOST PROFITS, THE PROFITS OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST POLLUTERS, THE LAST PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY NEED A HAND RIGHT NOW. THIS BILL DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS, MR. SPEAKER. IT BLOCKS EVEN MODEST POLLUTION CONTROL STANDARDS THAT COULD MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE. THE BILL ALSO ERASES 40 YEARS OF FEDERAL LAWS THAT PROTECT CLEAN AIR, WATER, LANDS AND WILDLIFE AND IT CRIPPLES THE BUDGETS OF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES WE'VE CHARGED WITH PROTECTING OUR CONSTITUENTS. AS A MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER I'M APPALLED THAT THIS BILL SIGNALS A WILLINGNESS TO LEAVE OUR FAMILIES A MORE UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT THAN WE HAVE TODAY. ISN'T THE IDEA ALWAYS TO LEAVE THINGS BETTER THAN WE FOUND THEM? BUT INSTEAD OF PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS AND SHORELINES, THIS BILL EXEMPTS OIL COMPANIES FROM COMPLYING WITH CLEAN AIR ACT FOR OFFSHORE DRILLING. INSTEAD OF PROTECTING OUR DRINKING WATER AND WATERWAYS IT CUTS NEARLY $1 BILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUNDS AND WILL IF ENACTED COMPROMISE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS URBAN STORMWATER RUNOFF, ONE OF SAN DIEGO'S GREATEST ENVIRONMENTAL THREATS. AND INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING A CLEANER, MORE EFFICIENT AUTO INDUSTRY IT BLOCKS AN IMPROVED FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARD, JEOPARDIZING A PROCESS PROJECTED TO CREATE UP TO 700,000 NEW GREEN JOBS. TO CUT FUEL COSTS AND SAVE 2.4 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL EVERY DAY BY 2030. IT'S ALARMING, IT'S ALARMING, MR. SPEAKER, THAT MY COLLEAGUES WHO SPEAK SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT GIVING THE NEXT GENERATIONS A CLEAN FINANCIAL SLATE WOULD SO CARELESSLY LEAVE THEM A DIRTY PLANET. I SUSPECT THAT THE GRANDCHILDREN OF SOME OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVES CAN'T ALWAYS JET OFF TO PRISTINE RESORTS BUT QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION FOR MOST OF MY CONSTITUENTS. THE GRANDCHILDREN OF 85% OF AMERICANS JUST TOLD "THE WASHINGTON POST"/ABC NEWS POLL THAT THEY ARE, QUOTE, JUST GETTING BY OR FALLING BEHIND AND THEY'LL BE STUCK PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES AND WORRYING ABOUT THEIR JOBS AND WORRYING ABOUT THEIR HEALTH. WE SHOULD BE LEAVING OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN A CHANCE, A CHANCE AT THE AMERICAN DREAM OF MIDDLE CLASS PRO-PROSPERITY AND THE LEGACY -- OF MIDDLE CLASS PROSPERITY AND THE LEGACY OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, NOT ONE OF RECKLESS DISREGARD. I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN OPPOSING THIS BILL AND GETTING BACK TO BRIDGING THE DIVIDE SO OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT DEBT DIVIDE, SO OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN FOCUS ON THEIR OWN JOBS RATHER THAN BEING CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE DOING OURS.

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  • 07:26:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:26:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:26:18 PM

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    MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, IN SOME RESPECTS I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE TWILIGHT…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, IN SOME RESPECTS I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE. CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WHEN WE ARE 144 HOURS FROM CROSSING THE BRINK FROM GOING OVER THE LEDGE TO HAVE THIS COUNTRY COME TO A SCREECHING HALT FINANCIALLY, TELL ME WHY WE ARE DEBATING THE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR. WHY AREN'T WE DEALING WITH WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT US TO BE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS THE DEBT LIMIT? RAISING THE CEILING ON THE DEBT LIMIT.

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  • 07:27:01 PM

    MS. SPEIER

    NO, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF HOURS HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF…

    NO, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF HOURS HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TALKING ABOUT THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AND MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AREN'T GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS, BUT I AM AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M HEARING. ONE WOMAN WROTE ME AND SAID, MY MOM IS 79 YEARS OLD, WORKED ALL HER LIFE IN A FACTORY AND RETIRED. HER PENSION WAS HANDED TO HER ON HER VERY LAST DAY OF WORK, $25,000. THE PLANT CLOSED, MOVED THE WORK TO MEXICO AND HER HUSBAND DIED EIGHT YEARS LATER. THAT $25,000 DIDN'T LAST LONG. NOW HER ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME IS SOCIAL SECURITY. SHE LIVES IN A SENIOR RETIREMENT CENTER THAT SHE LOVES. LAST THURSDAY SHE AND MY AUNT, WHO IS 83 AND ALSO WIDOWED, CALLED ME TO PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO THE BANK. THEY WERE GOING TO WITHDRAW FROM THEIR SAVINGS MONEY TO PAY THEIR RENT AS THEY, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE OTHER SENIORS THEY LIVE WITH IN THAT RETIREMENT CENTER, ARE CONVINCED THEY WILL NOT GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS COME AUGUST 1. MY MOM HAS A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT ON AUGUST 5 AND SHE WONDERS IF THE DOCTOR WILL CONTINUE TO SEE HER IF THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PAY FOR MEDICARE. I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THEM. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MY MOM IS LOSING SLEEP OVER THIS. LAST WEEK I THOUGHT SHE WAS FOOLISH. THIS WEEK I'M BEGINNING TO THINK THAT I'M THE FOOL. HOW DO YOU LOOK YOUR MOM AND YOUR AUNT IN THE EYE AND SAY WITH GREAT CERTAINTY THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL SEND THEM THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY? THAT WAS JUST ONE LETTER I RECEIVED AND I'VE GOTTEN LOTS OF PHONE CAUSE. A 52-YEAR-OLD WOMAN -- CALLS. A 52-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO IS A COURT REPORTER PAYS $13,000 INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM LAST YEAR AND SHE'S CALLING ME SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING? INTEREST RATES ON MY MORTGAGE IS GOING TO GO UP, INTEREST RATES ON MY CREDIT CARD ARE GOING TO GO UP, WHY AREN'T YOU FIXING THIS PROBLEM? NO, WE'RE STANDING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE A INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET -- TALKING ABOUT THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET. A 68-YEAR-OLD WOMAN PREVIOUSLY SUFFERED A STROKE, HAS HAD SEIZURES AND RELIES ON MEDICARE TO TREAT HER ARTHRITIS. HER HUSBAND, A CAB DRIVER, WILL TURN 70 IN DECEMBER. AT WHICH POINT HE WILL GO ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND HOPEFULLY GO FROM WORKING FIVE TO SIX HOURS A DAY TO MAYBE FOUR HOURS. IF HE LOSES HIS SOCIAL SECURITY HE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK LONGER HOURS AGAIN. THEY'RE ALL ANGUISHED. THEY ALL WANT US TO DO OUR JOBS. THEY WANT US TO LIFT THIS DEBT CEILING, PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND FIX OURED A FOUGHT TO THAT WE HAVE HERE -- OUR ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT SOMEHOW IT'S OK TO JUST STALL. IT'S OK TO JUST TRY AND MAKE POINTS, MAKE POLITICAL POINTS WHILE THEY'RE ALL WRINGING THEIR HANDS, WHILE THEY'RE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THEIR SAVINGS ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR RENT IF THEY DON'T GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS COME AUGUST 1. FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS, I WANT MY CONSTITUENTS TO CALL THIS NUMBER, CALL YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND TELL THEM WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. SHOULD WE DE -- SHOULD WE BE DEBATING THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS BILL, OR SHOULD WE BE FIXING THE DEBT LIMIT, A DEBT LIMIT THAT EVERY ECONOMIST OF EVERY POLITICAL STRIPE SAID YOU HAVE TO LIFT IT. PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN SAID IT HAS TO BE LIFTED. WHY SHOULD CONGRESS ALWAYS TAKE US TO THE BRINK BEFORE THEY ACT? IT'S TIME FOR US TO BE RESPONSIBLE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:30:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR WOULD REMIND ALL MEMBERS THAT THEY…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR WOULD REMIND ALL MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR, NOT THE TELEVISION AUDIENCE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:31:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:31:15 PM

    MR. GARAMENDI

    FOR REMINDING ALL OF US THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE DO HERE.…

    FOR REMINDING ALL OF US THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE DO HERE. THIS CURRENT MANUFACTURED HOLY -- THIS CURRENT MANUFACTURED, WHOLLY MANUFACTURED DEBT CRISIS HAD PEOPLE NERVOUS. THE WOMEN MS. SPEIER TALKED ABOUT, CONCERNED AND NERVOUS ABOUT THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS, WHETHER THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR MEDICAL CARE, AND TODAY'S "WALL STREET JOURNAL," THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE ITEMS ON WHAT'S NEWS, VARIOUS BUSINESSES AROUND THE WORLD IN FINANCE -- AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS BEING PREPARED FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN AMERICA'S HISTORY THAT OUR DEBT MAY NOT BE WORTH A HOOT. MAY BE WORTHLESS. THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEFAULT. THIS IS A TOTALLY MANUFACTURED, UNNECESSARY CRISIS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE. I WANT US ALL TO STEP BACK A LITTLE WAYS, STEP BACK TO DECEMBER, 2010, WHEN WE HAD ANOTHER MANUFACTURED CRISIS. IT CAME TIME TO FUND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TO DEAL WITH SOME ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AND THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE HELD US HOSTAGE AND DEMANDED THAT WE EXTEND THE HIGH-END BUSH TAX CUTS WHICH CREATED A $700 BILLION DEFICIT. WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT. AND ROLLED THE ISSUE FORWARD THREE MONTHS SO THAT IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD HAVE YET ANOTHER CRISIS. THE FUNDING OR SHUTDOWN OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YET AGAIN, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TO CREATE A CRISIS SO THAT THEY COULD USE IT TO FORCE ONTO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THEIR POLICIES WHICH BECAME VERY EVIDENT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. THEY WANTED TO RECONFIGURE THE ENTIRE AMERICAN SCENE. THEY WANTED TO ROLL BACK SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY WANTED TO END MEDICARE FOR ALL AMERICANS WHO ARE NOT YET 55 YEARS OF AGE. THEY WANTED TO END THE PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT HIGHER EDUCATION, TO REDUCE RESEARCH, TO REDUCE FUNDING FOR FOOD SAFETY PROGRAMS. THEY USE THESE MANUFACTURED CRISES, THE SHUTDOWN OF GOVERNMENT, YET HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH THE DEBT LIMIT. FIRST DISCUSSED BACK IN MAY. AND THEN, BECAUSE OF THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO CONTINUE PAYING BILLS, WE ARE NOW UP AGAINST THE FINAL DEADLINE OF AUGUST 2. YET AGAIN, A TOTALLY MANUFACTURED, UNNECESSARY CRISIS. PREVIOUSLY, RONALD REAGAN SAID, DON'T DO THIS. DO NOT PUT THE GOOD FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT ON THE LINE. HE TOLD THE REPUBLICANS, HIS REPUBLICANS, BACK IN THE 1980'S, HONOR THE DEBT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT NEW SPENDING. THIS IS ABOUT SPENDING GOING BACK A CENTURY. THIS IS ABOUT THE AMERICAN BILLS THAT WERE PAID OR NOT PAID YEARS AGO AND THAT'S OUR DEBT TODAY. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS. THERE ARE OPTIONS. WE'RE PUTTING FORTH, AS WE DID EARLIER, A CLEAN DEBT LIMIT INCREASE. GET US PAST THIS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRESIDENT TO INVOKE THE 14TH AMENDMENT, THE FOURTH CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT THAT SAYS AMERICA WILL HONOR ITS DEBTS. I BELIEVE HE HAS THE POWER, ISSUING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT, PAY OUR DEBTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FUNDAMENTAL FOR AMERICANS. AND WE MUST DO IT. PUT ASIDE THIS MANUFACTURED CRISIS. IT'S NOT -- DIDN'T NEED TO BE REAL. BUT IT'S BECOME ALL TOO REAL IN THESE LAST FEW DAYS AS OUR REPUBLICANS -- REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ARE UNABLE TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. EVEN TO PUT FORTH A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD EVISCERATE NECESSARY PROGRAMS. CAN'T EVEN DO THAT. THE PRESIDENT HAS CALLED FOR A BALANCED APPROACH, ONE OF TAXES, RAISING THE TAXES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED BACK IN DECEMBER AND ELIMINATE SOME $700 BILLION OF THIS PROBLEM. BUT LET'S DO IT NOW. LET'S GO AFTER THE OIL COMPANIES THAT ARE RECEIVING OUR TAX MONEY AT THE VERY SAME TIME OVER THE LAST DECADE THEY HAVE CREATED A -- NEARLY $1 TRILLION OF PROFIT. THEY DON'T NEED OUR TAX MONEY. THE POOR IN AMERICA, THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN AMERICA, THEY NEED OUR HELP.

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  • 07:36:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

  • 07:36:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:36:29 PM

    MR. TONKO

    AGREE WITH THE TWO PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, MY COLLEAGUES FROM CALIFORNIA. HERE…

    AGREE WITH THE TWO PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, MY COLLEAGUES FROM CALIFORNIA. HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH A FLAWED BILL THAT WOULD DENY OUR STEWARDSHIP OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, ALL WHILE WE'RE FACED WITH AN ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCE, WITH A DEFAULT THAT STARES US IN THE FACE. FOR THE PAST 200 DAYS, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP OF THIS BODY HAS SET ASIDE AMERICA'S PRIORITY OF JOB CREATION IN ORDER TO TALK ABOUT THE DEBT AND TO TALK ABOUT THE DEFICIT. MY CONCERN IS THAT AS WE FACE THAT LOOMING THREAT OF DEFAULT, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES AREN'T DOING MUCH BUT TALK. AFTER 200 DAYS WITH NO JOBS AGENDA, AFTER 200 DAYS OF VOTING TO DESTROY MILLIONS OF JOBS, AFTER 200 DAYS OF SAYING THOSE HARDEST HIT BY THE RECESSION SHOULD BEAR THE BURDEN OF UNBALANCED CUTS, AFTER 00 DAYS OF RHETORIC AND WALKING AWAY, MY REPUBLICANS COLLEAGUES HAVE FORCED THIS CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO WAIT YET MORE HOURS TO SEE AND VOTE ON THEIR PLAN. AS WE ALL KNOW, LAST NIGHT, THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE POINTED OUT THAT SOME OF THE CUTS IN THE SPEAKER'S PLAN WEREN'T REAL. MEANWHILE, THE TEA PARTY BASE SAID THAT CUT, CAP, AN BALANCE IS THE ONLY PLAN THEY WILL SUPPORT. WE CONSIDER THAT PLAN -- CONSIDERED A THAT PLAN LAST WEEK AND IT HAS FAILED IN THE SENATE. IT'S A PLAN THAT BRUCE BARTLETT A REAGAN ADVISOR AND BUSH TREASURY OFFICIAL SAID WAS, QUOTE, MIND-BOGGLING IN ITS INSANITY. OTHERS CALL IT THE MOST IDEOLOGICAL EXTREME TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS IN DECADES. GOVERNING -- GOVERNING IS NOT ALWAYS EASY. THERE ARE EXTREMISTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. OUR ADVANTAGE LIES IN THE FACT THAT HOWEVER VOCAL, EXTREMISTS ARE A MINORITY A FACTION. I HAVE TRAVELED MY DISTRICT EXTENSIVELY IN RECENT WEEKS. I HAVE HELD TOWN HALLS AND MEETINGS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND HERE'S WHAT I HEARD. WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM IN WASHINGTON. WE HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM IN WASHINGTON, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE A JOBS PROBLEM IN AMERICA. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WELL MY CONSTITUENTS HAD AN EASY ANSWER THERE TOO. FIRST, CUT WHAT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS AND STABILITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. THAT INCLUDES WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING, IT ALSO INCLUDES TAX BREAKS FOR CORPORATE JET OWNERS, MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND A SYSTEM OF KICKBACKS TO THE BIG OIL COMPANIES THAT EVEN THEIR C.E.O.'S SAY THEY DON'T NEED. SEC, SAVE WHATEVER ACTUALLY WORKS. THAT MEANS INVESTMENT IN EDUCATION, SO MIDDLE CLASS KIDS HAVE A CHANCE TO GET GOOD JOBS WHEN THEY FINISH SCHOOL. THAT MEANS BOOSTING INNOVATION TO GET AMERICAN INDUSTRY BOOMING AGAIN AND IT MEANS INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE CAN DRIVE TO WORK ON SAFE ROADS AND BRIDGES AND BUILD THEM WITH AMERICAN MATERIALS AND WORKERS. FINALLY, MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE TOLD ME THAT WHATEVER TALKING HEADS ON TV SAY, THEY KNOW FAIR WHEN THEY SEE IT. REGARDLESS OF PARTISAN DIVIDES. WE HAVE AN AGING POPULATION. NOBODY DISPUTES THAT. BUT THE MAJORITY HAS INTRODUCED PLAN AFTER PLAN AFTER PLAN THAT WOULD CUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND END MEDICARE. IN ORDER TO PROTECT CORPORATE TAX BREAKS AND LONG STANDING KICKBACKS FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE IDEAS ARE REPLACED AND GOVERNMENT BY IDEOLOGY. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED IN RECENT WEEKS TO MANIPULATE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION IN ORDER TO ENSHRINE THIS IDEOLOGY. WHERE I'M FROM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY IDEOLOGY THAT BELONGS IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION IS THAT OF DEMOCRACY. IN OUR DEMOCRACY, IF YOU WANT YOUR IDEAS TO BECOME LAW, YOU DON'T REWRITE OUR HISTORY OR CHANGE OUR FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS. YOU COME DOWN TO THIS FLOOR, YOU TELL YOUR COLLEAGUES AND CONSTITUENT WHAT IS YOU THINK AND YOU LET US DEBATE IT, AMEND IT, AND VOTE ON IT, RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS AND IN FRONT -- IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE SWORN TO SERVE. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY. AFTER 200 DAYS OF TALKING ABOUT LITTLE ELSE, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE FORCED THIS BODY AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO WAIT YET HOURS TO SEE THEIR TOP SECRET DEFAULT PLAN. EXACTLY WHICH PRINCIPLED STAND WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE LEADERSHIP TO WALK AWAY FROM NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE FIFTH TIME? MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE GAMES. WE KNOW THAT THEIR CALL TO END MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY PLANS WOULD PROTECT 2% OF OUR POPULATION AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REST OF US, THE 9 % OF US. I'M SURE THAT TAKES A LOT OF VOTE WRANGLING, BUT WE'VE HAD A YEAR TO GET THIS DONE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CONGRESS CUTS THEIR CLASSROOM BUDGET, EVEN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLCHILDREN KNOW THAT A DUE DATE IS A DUE DATE. DEMOCRATS SUPPORT A BALANCED, BIPARTISAN SOLUTION TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT TO KEY ATE JOBS, TO GROW OUR ECONOMY AND EXPAND THE MIDDLE CLASS. MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES SAY THEY SHARE THOSE SAME GOALS. I INVITE MY COLLEAGUES TO COME DOWN HERE AND SHARE THEIR PLAN. AMERICA IS WAITING AND DESERVES BETTER. WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS DEFAULT CRISIS THAT'S STARING US IN THE EYES. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:41:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 07:41:39 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:41:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFERED BY MR. BISHOP OF NEW YORK, PAGE 68, LINES 11 AND 12, AFTER EACH…

    OFFERED BY MR. BISHOP OF NEW YORK, PAGE 68, LINES 11 AND 12, AFTER EACH DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT INCREASED BY $1,411,000,000.

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  • 07:41:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 07:41:59 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    A POINT OF ORDER ON THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT.

  • 07:42:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE POINT OF ORDER IS RESERVED. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 07:42:08 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT RESERVE.

  • 07:46:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    NOT RESERVE.

  • 07:46:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

  • 07:46:50 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I INSIST ON MY POINT OF ORDER. THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES A NET INCREASE IF…

    I INSIST ON MY POINT OF ORDER. THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES A NET INCREASE IF BUDGET AUTHORITY IN THE BILL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT IN ORDER UNDER SECTION 3-J-3 OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 5 112TH CONGRESS WHICH STATE, I SHALL -- IT SHATSHAL NOT BE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO A GENERAL APPROPRIATION BILL PROPOSING A NET INCREASE IN BUDGET AUTHORITY IN THE BILL UNLESS CONSIDERED EN BLOC WITH ANOTHER AMENDMENT OR AMENDMENTS PROPOSING AN EQUAL OR GREATER DECREASE IN SUCH BUDGET AUTHORITY, PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 2-F OF RULE 21. THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES A NET INCREASE IN BUDGET AUTHORITY IN THE BILL AND IS IN VIOLATION OF SUCH SECTION. I ASK FOR A RULING FROM THE CHAIR.

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  • 07:47:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MEMBER WISH TO BE HEARD ON THE POINT OF ORDER?

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    >>

    MY FRIEND FROM IDAHO WOULD INSIST ON HIS POINT OF ORDER. I FULLY EXPECT…

    MY FRIEND FROM IDAHO WOULD INSIST ON HIS POINT OF ORDER. I FULLY EXPECT THE CHAIR TO SUSTAIN THE POINT OF ORDER.

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  • 07:47:39 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    LET'S BE CLEAR. THE UNDERLYING BILL VIOLATES HOUSE RULES. THERE ARE 39 --…

    LET'S BE CLEAR. THE UNDERLYING BILL VIOLATES HOUSE RULES. THERE ARE 39 -- AT LEAST BY MY COUNT -- SPECIAL INTEREST POLICY RIDERS IN THE UNDERLYING BILL. EVERY ONE OF WHICH IS PROTECTED BY A RULE THAT WAIVES ALL POINT OF ORDERS, EACH OF THESE POLICY RIDERS ARE? VIOLATION OF CLAUSE 2-B OF RULE 21, WE ALL KNOW THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE POINT OF ORDER WILL BE SUSTAINED BUT I DO WISH WE WOULD ADHERE TO WHAT WE WERE PROMISED. WE WERE PROMISED AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT HOUSE IN WHICH REGULAR ORDER WOULD PREVAIL AND WHICH THE HOUSE WOULD WORK ITS WILL. THIS RULE DOES NOT ALLOW THAT TO TAKE PLACE. I WILL ACCEPT THE RULING OF THE CHAIR.

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  • 07:48:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK VIOLATES SECTION 3-J-3 OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 5.…

    GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK VIOLATES SECTION 3-J-3 OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 5. SECTION 3-J-3 ESTABLISHES A POINT OF ORDER AGAINST AN AMENDMENT PROPOSING A NET INCREASE IN BUDGET AUTHORITY IN THE PENDING BILL. AS PERSUASIVELY ASSERTED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO, THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES A NET INCREASE IN BUDGET AUTHORITY OF THE BILL, THEREFORE A POINT OF ORDER IS SUSTAINED, THE AMENDMENT IS NOT IN ORDER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA RISE?

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  • 07:48:58 PM

    >>

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 07:49:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:49:03 PM

    THE CLERK

    BY MR. LANKFORD OF OKLAHOMA. PAGE 71, LINE 15 AND 17, STRIKE NOT LESS THAN…

    BY MR. LANKFORD OF OKLAHOMA. PAGE 71, LINE 15 AND 17, STRIKE NOT LESS THAN 30% AND INSERT 30% OR LESS.

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  • 07:49:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:49:16 PM

    MR. LANKFORD

    THANK YOU, SIR. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CURRENTLY ADMINISTERS…

    THANK YOU, SIR. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CURRENTLY ADMINISTERS CLEAN WATER TO STATE REVOLVING FUNDS AND THE DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVE FUNDS TO PROVIDE LOW INTEREST FINANCING THROUGH THE STATES. THESE LOW INTEREST LOANS ARE A WAY FOR STATES AND COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR OWN DISCRETION IN MAKING THE MUCH-NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR WATER SUPPLIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PROGRAM WAS A GRANT PROGRAM YEARS AGO BUT WAS TRANSITIONED INTO A LOAN PROGRAM TO SAVE MONEY SOME 25 YEARS AGO. WHEN THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT PASSED IN 2009 AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR THESE ACCOUNTS WAS COUPLED WITH A PROVISION IN THOSE TWO FUNDS REQUIRING NO LESS THAN 30% OF THE FINANCIAL FUNDS BE ISSUED TO BE USED FOR PRINCIPLE FORGIVENESS WITH A TYPE OF GRANT PROGRAM TO THEM. THIS PRINCIPAL FORGIVENESS CHANGES THE LOW INTEREST LOAN PROGRAM TO A DIRECT FUNDING PROGRAM, IT'S A HYBRID BETWEEN A LOAN PROGRAM NOW AND A GRANT PROGRAM. SINCE THE STIMULUS EXPIRED IN FUNDING FOR THESE PROVISIONS RETURNED TO NORMAL LEVEL, UNFORTUNATELY THE PRINCIPAL FOR GIVENESS PROVISION HAS REMAINED. THIS BILL ROLLS BACK PRESTIMULUS FUNDING LEVELS BUT IT DOESN'T ROLL BACK THE STIMULUS -- PRESTIMULUS FEDERAL STRINGS. SO MY AMENDMENT REMOVES THE FEDERAL MANDATE OF PRINCIPAL FORGIVENESS AND GIVES THE STATE DISCRETION ON THE AMOUNT THEY WOULD LIKE TO OFFER. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PRINCIPAL FORGIVENESS OF UP TO 30%. COMMUNITIES RELY ON THESE FUNDS TO ENSURE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AND SAFE DRINKING WATER. BY SUPPORTING MY AMENDMENT, YOU COULD LEVERAGE YOUR STATE AND COMMUNITY AS I CROSS ALL -- ALL ACROSS OUR NATION TO GET THE MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE ASSISTANCE. IT IS A VERY BIPARTISAN FOCUS ON THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES FROM THE PRESIDENT IN HIS BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT HE REQUESTED THE SAME THING AND IT ALSO FOR CONSERVATIVES AND OTHERS GIVES BACK THE STATES THE RIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:51:09 PM

    MR. LANKFORD

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THEN.

  • 07:51:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 07:51:17 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:51:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:51:21 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES…

    CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES IS CREATES A 0% LANGUAGE THAT HE IS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AND MAKE -- THAT -- 30% LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AS A FLOOR AND MAKES IT A FLOOR. IT PROVIDES GRANTS TO STATES THAT CAPITALIZE THEIR PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS OFFER LOW INTEREST LOANS TO COMMUNITIES FOR PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S INTENDED USE PLAN. THESE LOW INTEREST LOANS ARE USUALLY BELOW MARKET RATES AND ARE USED TO FINANCE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. MANY SMALL AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WITH LOW INCOME-BASED CAN HARDLY AFFORD TO APPLY FOR THESE LOANS EVEN WITH THE LOW INTEREST LOANS. THEREFORE THIS PROVISION IN THE BASE TEXT WHICH WE HAVE HAD FOR A FEW YEARS WOULD OFFER ZERO INTEREST LOANS, LOANS THAT FORGIVE A PORTION OF THE PRINCIPAL OR GRANTS TO THESE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE UNABLE TO AFFORD A STANDARD S.R.F. LOAN. THE PROVISIONS PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO SMALL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION THAT ARE TIRELESSLY WORKING TO PROVIDE CLEAN AND SAFE DRINKING WATER TO THEIR RESIDENTS AND BRING CONSTRUCTION JOBS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY BALANCE THEIR BOOKS. AND GIVEN THE HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FACING THIS NATION AND THE CRUMBLING WATER AND WATER -- WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING MORE OF THIS ASSISTANCE, NOT LESS. SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE COLLEAGUE'S AMENDMENT AND SHARE HIS INTEREST IN PRESERVING THE VIABILITY OF THE S.R.F., I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I WOULD AURNL NO VOTE. I WOULD JUST SAY -- AND I WOULD URGE A NO VOTE. I WOULD JUST SAY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE HAVE THE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS, WE PUT THE MONEY OUT THERE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT CAN'T EVEN AFFORD THE LOANS. SO IT DOESN'T HELP THEM REBUILD THEIR WATER SYSTEMS OR THE STATE OR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES. WITH THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE WITH ARSENIC AND OTHER THINGS, I HAVE A LOT OF SMALL COMMUNITIES IN IDAHO THAT IT DOESN'T HELP THEM THAT THEY HAVE A STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS HELP THEM THROUGH THAT TO MEET SOME OF THE CLEAN WATER STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AND AS I SAID, WHAT WE'VE CARRIED IN THE BILL BEFORE SAYS A MINIMUM OF 30% OR A FLOOR OF 30% OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT WOULD DO WOULD MAKE THAT A CEILING SO YOU CAN ONLY USE 30% OF THAT. I WOULD OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD ALSO.

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  • 07:53:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 07:53:50 PM

    MR. LANKFORD

    MAY I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 07:53:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA REQUESTS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 07:54:06 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

  • 07:55:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

  • 07:55:28 PM

    MR. BROUN

    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

  • 07:55:30 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 07:55:32 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 18 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 18 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA.

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  • 07:55:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:55:39 PM

    MR. BROUN

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE STATE AND PRIVATE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE STATE AND PRIVATE FORESTRY FUNDING BY A MODEST 10% AND TRANSFER MORE THAN $20 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THE STATE AND PRIVATE FORESTRY FUNDING SETS ASIDE MONEY FOR INTERNATIONAL FORESTRY,, URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY AND SUPPORTS MORE THAN 500 MILLION ACRES OF NONFEDERAL FORESTED LANDS. WE ARE MORE THAN $14.3 TRILLION IN DEBT AND WE NEED TO BE CUTTING AREAS OF OUR BUDGET WHEREVER POSSIBLE. IT IS MORE THAN REASONABLE TO REQUEST A REDUCTION IN THIS PROGRAM. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS GIVING OUT A HANDOUT TO PRIVATE FORESTRY LAND OWNERS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS FUNDING WILL BE BETTER MANAGED BY STATES AND LOCAL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. WE'RE BROKE, MR. SPEAKER. AS A NATION. AND WE NEED TO BE DOING WHAT BUSINESSES DO WHEN THEY GET OVEREXTENDED. THEY LOWER THEIR BORROWING LEVEL, THEY TRY TO FIND OUT WAYS TO PAY OFF THEIR DEBT AND THEY START CUTTING THE EXPENSES AND THIS IS A MERE 10% CUT. SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO THINK ABOUT OUR MASSIVE DEBT AND I URGE THEM TO CONSIDER SENDING PART OF THIS PROGRAM BACK TO THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:57:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 07:57:11 PM

    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I SIMPLY -- SIMPLY RISE TO ASK IF WE COULD SEE THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I SIMPLY -- SIMPLY RISE TO ASK IF WE COULD SEE THE AMENDMENT. IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS IT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:57:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT IS NUMBER 18 IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. FOR WHAT PURPOSE…

    THE AMENDMENT IS NUMBER 18 IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 07:57:44 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

  • 07:57:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 07:57:48 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE $21 MILLION FROM THE FOREST SERVICES, STATE AND PRIVATE PROGRAM AND PUT IT IN THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. WHILE IT'S EASY TO STAND HERE AND SAY IT JUST REDUCES IT BY 10%, WHO CAN'T STAND A 10% REDUCTION, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT STATE AND PRIVATE FORESTRY PROGRAM HAS ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT CUT IN THIS BUDGET. $133 MILLION BELOW THE F.Y. 2011 AND DESPITE ITS NAME IT IS CRITICAL TO MANAGING THE NATIONAL FOREST SYSTEM. THE ACCOUNTS ARE KEPT IN TACT -- THE ACCOUNTS WE KEPT IN TACT ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. FOR EXAMPLE, COOPERATIVE FIRE PROTECTION IN RURAL AREAS, THIS HELPS RURAL COMMUNITIES FIGHT WILDFIRES. WITH SUCH A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PUBLIC LAND AND SUCH A SMALL TAX BASE, MANY RURAL COMMUNITIES ARE HARD-PRESSED TO PAY FOR SUPPRESSION FOR A LARGE WILDFIRE THAT START ON PUBLIC LANDS. COOPERATIVE FOREST HELP. IN OTHER WORDS, THE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT OF INSECTS AND DISEASE. IMPROVING FOREST HEALTH HELPS PREVENT CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES. IN THE SOUTH I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILY WITH THE SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE. THIS PROGRAM HAS HELPED CONTAIN THE SPREAD OF SOUTHERN PINE BEETLE. I WISH THE SAME WERE TRUE IN THE WESTERN UNITED STATES WHERE 20 MILLION ACRES ARE DEAD DUE TO THE BEETLE. I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN IS STANDING ON PRINCIPLE. SO AM I. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:59:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 07:59:10 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    SIMPLY RISE TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE VERY THOUGHTFUL, INSIGHTFUL…

    SIMPLY RISE TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE VERY THOUGHTFUL, INSIGHTFUL COMMENTS OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FROM IDAHO. WE AGREE THE AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DEFEATED.

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  • 07:59:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 07:59:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII RISE?

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    MS. HANABUSA

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    ANT OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT. WHILE THE PROGRAM IS A GOOD…

    ANT OPPOSITION TO THE GENTLELADY'S AMENDMENT. WHILE THE PROGRAM IS A GOOD PROGRAM AND MOST PEOPLE SUPPORT IT, THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT TAKES THE MONEY OUT OF THE WILDFIRE SUPPRESSION PROGRAM. ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS UNDERSTANDS THE WILDFIRE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, ARIZONA AND AS NOAA HAS TOLD US, THOSE WILDFIRES ARE GOING TO CLIMB INTO THE PEST LATER IN THE YEAR THIS YEAR. I SUSPECT, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER THERE WILL BE A HUGE FIRE SUPPRESSION COSTS. WE CAN ILL AFFORD TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE FIRE SUPPRESSION PROGRAM. IT WOULD BE NICE TO INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS BUT IF THEY BURN UP, WE AREN'T PROTECTING THEM. WE TRIED TO FUND THE WILDFIRE SUPPRESSION AT A 10-YEAR AVERAGE, WHICH WE HAVE DONE AND I WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THAT GIVEN THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN THIS YEAR AND I OPPOSE.

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  • 08:05:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM HAWAII. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE?

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    THE DESK. NUMBER 44.

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    THE CLERK

    76, LINGE, NATIONAL FOREST SYSTEM, $1 BILLION.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE?

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    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK,

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL SPECIFY THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE. NUMBER 44. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE…

    WILL SPECIFY THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE. NUMBER 44. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:06:44 PM

    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR OF ARIZONA.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GOSAR

    WRONG AMENDMENT. 44.

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    THE CHAIR

    REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR, INSERT AFTER EACH DOLLAR AMOUNT THE…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. GOSAR, INSERT AFTER EACH DOLLAR AMOUNT THE FOLLOWING, INCREASED BY $10 MILLION, PAGE 80, LINE 1, INSERT AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THE FOLLOWING, REDUCED BY $16,600,000.

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  • 08:08:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. GOSAR

    TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. THIS SUMMER OVER A MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND AND…

    TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. THIS SUMMER OVER A MILLION ACRES OF FOREST LAND AND 600,000 OF FEDERAL, STATE AND PRIVATE LANDS BURNED THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST. THEY ARE COSTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WILL COST MILLIONS MORE IN REHABILITATION IN THE MONTHS AHEAD. THESE FIRES REINFORCED THE URGENT NEED FOR LANDSCAPE RESTORATION. THIS IS TO FULLY FUND LARGE SCALE TREATMENT TO OUR NATIONAL FORESTS WHICH WILL REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK AND SPECIFICALLY, MY AMENDMENT INCREASES THE LANDSCAPE RESTORATION PROGRAM $10 MILLION, FULLY FUNDING IT AT THE BUDGET REQUEST, AUTHORIZED IN FISCAL YEAR 2009, IT WAS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE SCIENCE ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION. THE PROGRAM RECOGNIZES THE MANAGEMENT WILL BE MOST EFFECTIVE IF IT IS PLANNED AND IN A COLLABORATIVE FRAMEWORK THROUGH PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP. AS AN OFFSET THE AMENDMENT DECREASES THE RELATED FUNDING ACCOUNT BY $16.6 MILLION. THE HAZARDOUS FUEL ACCOUNT IS FUND S AT $334 MILLION IN THE UNDERLYING BILL, $80 MILLION ABOVE THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. THE C.B.O. CONFIRMED MY AMENDMENT DOES NOT INCREASE THE OUTLAYS. FOREST TREATMENT FOCUSED ON HAZARDOUS FUEL REDUCTION MAYBE APPROPRIATE, THEY DO NOT ACHIEVE THE FIRE PROTECTION AND ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION THAT ARE REQUIRED. IT IS ROUGHLY 80 MILLION ACRES OF FOREST THAT ARE OVERGROWN AND CATASTROPHIC FOR WILDFIRE A CORDING TO THE DATA BASE. WE CANNOT AFFORD THE STATUS QUO USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PREVENT UNNATURAL FIRE LIKE THE WALLOW FIRE IN ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO. WE MUST CHANGE OUR PRIORITIES AND TREAT OUR FIRES AT THE SCALE THESE FIRES ARE OCCURRING. CONGRESS MUST FUND LARGE SCALE FOREST RESTORATION TREATMENT IF IT WAS TO REVERSE THE TREATMENT OF OUR FOREST WHILE REDUCING THE RISK OF CATASTROPHIC FIRES. THE PARTNERSHIP FACILITATED THROUGH THE PROGRAM EMPOWERS PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO DO IMPORTANT SCIENCE ECOLOGICAL WORK BY MINIMUM MS.ING THE RISK TO THE TAXPAYERS. IN 2010, PROJECTS WERE SELECTED. THESE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED IN NINE STATES, MONTANA, ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, COLORADO, FLORIDA, OREGON AND WASHINGTON. IN THE CASE OF ARIZONA, THE PROJECT CALLS FOR THE FOREST SERVICE TO CONTRACT WITH SFRISS CAPABLE OF RESTORING TENSE OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES PER YEAR. IT ESTIMATED 2.4 MILLION ACRE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED AT NO COST TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE OF THIS PROMISE, THIS PROJECT IS GARNNERED SUPPORT IN THE ARIZONA HOUSE DELEGATION AND SENATORS KYL AND MCCAIN AND UNPRECEDENTED RANGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS. AND FULLY FUNDING FOR THE FOREST LANDSCAPE RESTORATION PROGRAM ENSURES THAT THE PROJECTS WHICH ARE NEEDED, WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE WHILE ALLOWING THEM TO EXPAND INTO THE 80 MILLION ACRES OF OVERGROWN AND FOREST SERVICE LANDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED. WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE INDUSTRY, TOGETHER WE CAN CREATE JOBS AND SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CITIZENS. LANDSCAPE SCALED FOREST TREATMENTS ARE THE ONLY WAY THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO MAKE REAL PROGRESS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES ON THE PROGRAM AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:13:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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    MR. SIMPSON

    LIKE TO NOTE I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, CFLR. THIS BILL FUNDS THE PROGRAM AT…

    LIKE TO NOTE I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, CFLR. THIS BILL FUNDS THE PROGRAM AT $30 MILLION. IN THE C.R., IT WAS FUNDED AT $25 MILLION. WE SUPPORTED IT ENOUGH THAT WE INCREASED FUNDING FOR IT FROM THE 2010 LEVEL THROUGH THE C.R. AND IN THIS BILL. THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM HAS INCREASED WHEN OTHER PROGRAMS ARE BEING SCUT. THE OFFSET FOR THIS PROGRAM IS HAZARDOUS FUELS AND BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET AUTHORITY AND OUTLAYS THE BUDGET HAS TO CUT $16.6 MILLION TO PAY FOR A $10 MILLION INCREASE. IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT HAZARDOUS FUEL FUNDS GET TO THE GROUND AND MAKE AN IMPACT BEFORE THE LANDSCAPE RESTORATION PROGRAM WHICH COULD TAKE YEARS BEFORE A PROJECT IS IMPLEMENTED. I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT IN OUR BILL REPORT WE STATE OVER AND OVER THAT THE FOREST SERVICE NEEDS MORE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AT A MUCH LARGER SCALE. THE CF LMP R IS NOT THE ONLY PROGRAM. THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT IMPROVES WILD FIRE RISKS. WE FUNDED THESE AT 2011 LEVELS. I'M GLAD THE PROGRAM IS WORKING WELL IN ARIZONA BUT HASN'T WORK IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. OTHER BUCKETS OF FUNDING ARE MORE EFFECTIVE. AS A RESULT, I HAVE TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO.

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  • 08:14:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 08:15:02 PM

    MR. GOSAR

    I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL, YEAS AND NAYS. I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA WILL BE POSTPONED. . THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:15:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, $378,088,000. LAND ACQUISITION,…

    CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, $378,088,000. LAND ACQUISITION, $12,500,000. ACQUISITION OF LAND FOR NATIONAL FORESTS SPECIAL ACTS, $955,000. ACQUISITION OF LANDS TO COMPLETE LAND EXCHANGES, SUMS TO BE DERIVED FROM FUNDS DEPOSITED BY STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS. RANGE BETTERMENT FUND, 50% OF ALL MONEYS RECEIVED AS FEES FOR GRAZING TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL EXPENDED. GIFTS, DONATIONS AND BEQUESTS FOR FOREST AND RANGE LARGE RESEARCH, $45,000. MANAGEMENT OF NATIONAL FOREST LANDS FOR SUBSEQUENT USES, $2 MILLION. WILD LAND FIRE MANAGEMENT, $1,805,099,000. SLAYING WILDFIRE SUPPRESSION RESERVE FUND, $290,418,000. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS FOREST SERVICE, APPROPRIATIONS SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE OF MOTOR VEHICLES, FUNDS MAY BE TRANSFERRED FOR FOREST FIRE FIGHTING, FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR ASSISTANCE IN CONNECTION WITH FOREST AND RANGE LAND RESEARCH IN FOREIGN COUNTRY, UP TO $5 MILLION SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR PRIORITY PROJECTS, $4,000 IS AVAILABLE FOR OFFICIAL REPRESENTATION EXPENSES, $3 MILLION MAY BE ADVANCED IN A LUMP SUM TO THE NATIONAL FOREST FOUNDATION TO AID CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS. $3 MILLION MAY BE ADVANCED TO THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION. FUNDS VALUE SHAL BE AVAILABLE FOR A SUB SUSTAINABLE RULE DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. $5 MILLION MILLION -- $55 MILLION SHALL BE ASSESSED FOR PERFORMING FIRE AND OTHER FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. $500,000 MAY BE USED TO REIMBURSE THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNCIL FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES. NONE OF THE FUNDS MAY BE REPROGRAMMED WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEES. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE, INDIAN HEALTH SERVICES, $4,034,322,000. INDIAN HEALTH FACILITIES, $427,259,000. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS, INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE, APPROPRIATIONS IN THIS ACT SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR SERVICES AS AUTHORIZED BY YOU U.S.C. 3109, NONINDIAN PATIENTS MAY BE EXTENDED HEAMENT CARE -- HEALTH CARE OR INDIAN HEALTH CARE FACILITIES SUBJECT TO CHARGES. FUNDS APPROPRIATED TO INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO LIMITATIONS DIRECTED AT CURTAILING FEDERAL TRAVEL. NONE OF THE FUNDS SHALL BE USED FOR ANY ASSESSMENTS BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES UNLESS IDENTIFIED IN THE BUDGET. FUNDS AVAILABLE TO TRIBAL OR ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH A CONTRACT MAY BE DEOBLIGATED AND REOBLIGATED. NONE OF THE FUNDS SHALL BE USED TO IMPLEMENT THE FINAL RULE PUBLISHED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES RELATED TO THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE HEALTH CARE SERVICES OF THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE. WITH RESPECT TO FUNCTIONS TRANSFERRED TO TRIBES OR TRIBAL ORGANIZATIONS, THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE IS AUTHORIZED TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE ENTITIES ON A REIMBURSEBLE BASIS. REIMBURSEMENT FOR TRAINING OR SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE WILL CONTAIN TOTAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROVISION OF GOODS OR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. THE APPROPRIATIONS STRUCTURE FOR THE INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE MAY NOT BE ALTOGETHERED -- AUTHORED WITHOUT ADVANCED NOTIFICATION TO HOUSE COMMITTEES. NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SCIENCES, $79,504,000. AGENCY FOR TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND DISEASED REGISTRY, TOXIC SUBSTANCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, $74,098,000. OTHER RELATED AGENCIES, EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, $2,661,000.

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  • 08:19:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA RISE?

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    MR. LANKFORD

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MR. LANKFORD OF OKLAHOMA. PAGE 98, LINE 11, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT…

    BY MR. LANKFORD OF OKLAHOMA. PAGE 98, LINE 11, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, REDUCE BY $2,661,000. PAGE 158, LINE 25, AFTER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT INSERT, INCREASE BY $2,661,000.

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  • 08:20:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. LANKFORD

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT IS ABOUT ELIMINATING WASTEFUL…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT IS ABOUT ELIMINATING WASTEFUL DUPLICATION IN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THE COUNCIL OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ELIMINATE THE FUNDING FOR THAT COUNCIL OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND TRANSFER THE SAVINGS TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL RESULT IN ABOUT A $2.7 MILLION TAXPAYER SAVINGS. SPECIFICALLY THE COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, IF PEOPLE AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT'S A COUNCIL OF ONE PERSON WITH A BUDGET TYPICALLY AROUND $3 MILLION. THROUGHOUT THE COUNCIL'S 40-YEAR HISTORY IT REALLY HAS DONE LITTLE TO DEMONSTRATE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OTHER THAN WHAT ALREADY IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND NOAA ITSELF. FORMER PRESIDENTS HAVE PROPOSED A REDUCE IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS COUNCIL. THIS COUNCIL BLATANTLY DUPLICATES THE EFFORTS OF OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND NOAA WHO ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB IN THESE SAME AREAS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE UNNECESSARY WASTE, DUPLICATIONS, STREAMLINE THE BUREAUCRACY AND IMPROVE AGENCY SERVICES TO AMERICANS WHO FUND THESE AGENCIES. AT THIS CRITICAL POINT IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY, I RECOMMEND THAT WE NEED TO ELIMINATE AGENCIES LIKE THIS AND TO BE ABLE TO COMBINE THEM TO EXISTING AGENCIES AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:21:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 08:21:35 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I RISE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY PRESIDENT…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY PRESIDENT NIXON, I THINK IT WAS BILL WHO WAS THE FIRST HEAD OF IT. WHAT IT DOES IS TO COORDINATE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT. THAT ACT, AS I RECALL, GOES BACK TO 1976, 1969. IT WAS PRESIDENT NIXON THAT PUT IT INTO EFFECT. THE COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DOES THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT REVIEWS. AND IT'S A CRITICAL FUNCTION. IN ADDITION TO THAT IT COORDINATES THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU DIDN'T HAVE C.E.Q., YOU'D HAVE TO INVENT IT. I KNOW IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT WE'D BE CREATING IT IN THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL BECAUSE THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL IS REPLETE WITH REQUESTS TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO COORDINATE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS, PARTICULARLY THOSE RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE. TO AVOID DUPLICATION. WELL, THAT'S THE ROLE OF C.E.Q. THE COUNCIL OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS VERY INADEQUATELY FUNDED. IT'S A RELATIVE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. SO THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN INTERPRET FROM THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT IT'S MEANT TO BE PUNITIVE. YOU'RE HARDLY SAVING ANY MONEY AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ELIMINATING THE WHITE HOUSE'S ABILITY TO COORDINATE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS, TO CONTINUE THE SAME TRADITION THAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE RICHARD NIXON. IT'S NOW BEEN 40 YEARS AND NO ONE UP UNTIL NOW HAS THOUGHT THAT THE COUNCIL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY WAS NOT PERFORMING AN IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE FUNCTION. SO I'M SURPRISED THAT THE GENTLEMAN WOULD OFFER THE AMENDMENT BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY OPPOSE IT. IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO REALIZE THE FULL VALUE OF IT WHEN IT'S GONE. AND THE SMALL. A MONEY TO SAVE -- AND THE SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SAVE WHEN THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PERSON FOR PERSON PROBABLY DOES AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PEOPLE EVEN IN THE E.P.A. OR ANY OF THE OTHER AGENCIES OF THE GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING A CONSISTENT, FOCUSED POLICY ON ENVIRONMENT. I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE SOUNDLY DEFEATED. IT WAS FUNDED IN THE BILL, THERE WAS NO CRITICISM REGISTERED IN THE REPORT WITH REGARD TO THE COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT, MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO TO ANY MEMBER'S OFFICE. ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT, WHEN YOU HAVE LOCAL ISSUES OR STATE ISSUES, THEY WILL RESPOND, THEY'LL EXPLAIN THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S ACTIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CONGRESSIONAL INTENT. SO THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTIVE AMENDMENT THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE AND I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT THIS BODY WOULD REJECT IT. SO I'LL YIELD BACK MY TIME BUT I'M STUNNED THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN OFFERED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 08:25:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON…

    GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DOES.

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  • 08:26:16 PM

    MS. MCCOLLUM

    IT'S FOCUS IS TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE EFFECTIVE. AND IT…

    IT'S FOCUS IS TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE EFFECTIVE. AND IT DOES THIS BY INTERAGENCY WORKING GROUPS IN COORDINATION WITH E.O.P. AND C.E.Q.. AND IT BALANCES THE COMPETING POSITIONS SOMETIMES EVEN WITHIN GOVERNMENT COORDINATION. IN OTHER WORDS IT MAKES EVERYBODY COME AROUND THE TABLE AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO IN THE MOST EFFECTIVELY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? IT BRINGS, AS RANKING MEMBER MORAN POINTED OUT, FEDERAL AGENCIES, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO THE TABLE, TOO, TO SAY, HOW CAN WE BE MOST EFFECTIVE COLLABORATIVELY IN MAKING OUR ENVIRONMENT WORK BETTER FOR AMERICA? AND LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE WOKING ON AND IT'S SOLAR ENERGY. SOLAR ENERGY IS BOOMING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND IF WE GET SOLAR ENERGY TECHNOLOGY RIGHT, WE WILL BE THE LEADERS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION IN HOW WE CAN HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE THROUGH RENEWABLE ENERGY. THE SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES THE ASSOCIATION WORKS WITH THIS COUNCIL AND IN THE FIRST QUARTER THE SOLAR INDUSTRY SAW -- INSTALLED NEW SOLAR ELECTRIC CAPACITY, 66% GROWTH FROM THE SAME TIME FRAME FROM 2010. THAT'S 3,000 MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR ELECTRIC INSTALLED IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S ENOUGH TO POWER 600,000 HOMES. THEY WORKED WITH THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR, THE SOLAR POWER SECTOR, THEY WORK TOGETHER AND THEY CAUSED THIS 33% JUMP IN PANEL PRODUCTION. WITH THE GROWTH OF SOLAR INDUSTRY, THOUSANDS OF JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED. IN FACT, SOLAR ENERGY CREATES MORE JOBS PER MEGAWATT THAN ANY OTHER ENERGY SOURCE AND ACCORDING TO THE SOLAR FOUNDATION'S NATIONAL SOLAR JOB CENSUS, 93,000 AMERICANS ARE EMPLOYED IN THE U.S. SOLAR INDUSTRY. THE REASON WHY I BRING THIS UP IS THAT BY NOT ONLY HELPING TO BRING EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE AMERICA FORWARD WITH THIS, THE NEXT THING THEY DO IS THEY WORK, AS I SAID, WITH INTERGOVERNMENT AGENCIES. SO THEY WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO ISSUE LOAN GUARANTEES FOR SOLAR PROJECTS AND MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE 26,000 JOBS. THEY WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS TO ANNOUNCE THAT THEY'LL BE INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR MEDICAL CENTERS, ONE IN OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, ANOTHER IN TEXAS AND IN CALIFORNIA. PRIOR TO THIS ANNOUNCEMENT, THE D.A. HAD ALSO BEEN AWARDED -- THE V.A. HAD ALED BEEN AWARDED -- HAD ALSO BEEN AWARDED FOR OTHER SOLAR PANEL DOLLARS AND THEY'RE ABLE TO CONTROL COSTS AND DO GOOD THINGS FOR -- THINGS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR HAS APPROVED SOLAR PERMITS ON PUBLIC LANDS WHICH WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH ENERGY FOR 70,000 HOMES. THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE PROMOTES THE DEPLOYMENT OF SOLAR ENERGY ON FARMS AND RANCHES, WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND FOLKS OUT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. SO, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. COORDINATION IS OFTEN THE KEY TO EFFICIENCY AND SO I JUST REALLY THINK THAT THE COUNCIL ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY PROVIDES AMERICA A WAY FORWARD IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR AGENCIES ARE TALKING AND BEING EFFECTIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER WHEN IT COMES TO COLLABORATION ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, ALSO REACHES OUT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT WORKS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:30:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WYOMING RISE? LOOM LOOM I MOVE TO STRIKE THE --

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    MRS. LUMMIS

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO THE THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    STRIKE THE LAST WORD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO THE THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND I WILL RECLAIM MY TIME. LAMBING

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  • 08:30:29 PM

    MR. LANKFORD

    IS IT'S THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES THAT E.P.A. HAS AND DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY…

    IS IT'S THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES THAT E.P.A. HAS AND DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS AND NOAA HAS AND THESE ARE EXECUTIVE AGENCIES AND TO SAY YOU HAVE TO WATCH OVER THIS EXECUTIVE AGENCY IS ONE OF THE PRIME EXAMPLES OF WHY IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO COMBINE AGENCIES FOR EFFICIENCY. WE HAVE MULTIPLE BUREAUCRACIES AND IT WOULD SAVE US MONEY. YES, THIS IS A SMALL AGENCY, BUT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE PRIME EXAMPLES WHY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS MULTIPLE AGENCIES DOING THE SAME THING AND WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO COMBINE THESE. WE ARE CREATING JOBS. BUT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:31:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    MRS. LUMMIS

    BILL REDUCES C.E. Q. TO 2006 LEVELS AND CAPS THEIR TO 2006 LEVELS. THAT…

    BILL REDUCES C.E. Q. TO 2006 LEVELS AND CAPS THEIR TO 2006 LEVELS. THAT MEANS THEY WILL HAVE A REDUCTION IN FORCE, WILL LOSE THREE EMPLOYEES. I MIGHT POINT OUT, WHEN I WAS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE GOVERNOR IN MY STATE, I ALSO RAN THE NATURAL RESOURCE IS SUBCABINET AND WE WERE AT THE STATE LEVEL THE MIRROR IMAGE. WE WERE IN THE POSITION OF RESPONDING TO NEPA DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO US FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO STATE AGENCIES AND AS A STATE WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO COORDINATE OUR RESPONSES TO NEPA DOCUMENTS TO VARIOUS STATE AGENCIES, THE AGENCY THAT REGULATES WATER, THE AGENCY THAT LOOKS AFTER STATE LAND, THE AGENCY THAT DOES ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IN WYOMING, THE AGENCY THAT DOES STATE FORESTS AND ON AND ON. AND SO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES SUBCABINET WAS THE STATE EQUIVALENT AND MIRROR IMAGE TO WHAT C.E. Q. IS IN WASHINGTON. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT C.E. Q. HAS COORDINATED HERE IN WASHINGTON AND WHY IT MAKES SENSE. WE HAVE SEEN IN THIS DEBATE EARLIER THAT FIGHTING ASIAN CARP IS AN ISSUE? THE GREAT LAKES. THEY HAVE BROUGHT THE AGENCIES TOGETHER TO COMBINE EFFORTS TO FIGHT THIS INVASIVE SPECIES. THEY HAVE COORDINATED AND WITHOUT THE FRAMEWORK, IT'S HARD TO PULL THE ARMY CORPS OF GEARS, E.P.A. AND -- ENGINEERS AND E.P.A. WITH THE STATES TO HAVE A SHARED RESPONSE TO A MULTI STATE, MULTI JURISDICTION, MULTI LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT ISSUE LIKE THE ASIAN CARP. THAT IS SOMETHING, I BELIEVE, THAT MAKES IT APPROPRIATE FOR C.E.Q. I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE WITH IT. BUT QUITE FRANKLY, THAT COORDINATION, WHEN MANAGED PROPERLY, ALLOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE WITH THEIR OWN DISPARITY AGENCIES AND HAVE DIFFERENT MISSION STATEMENTS AND THAT COORDINATION IS IMPORTANT. MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THOSE REASONS AND FOR THE CUTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN IN THIS BILL, I DO RISE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:34:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA RISE? THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 08:34:26 PM

    MR. FLAKE

    ON SPEAKING, BUT I COULDN'T HELP AFTER HEARING THE COMMENTS AND I WOULD…

    ON SPEAKING, BUT I COULDN'T HELP AFTER HEARING THE COMMENTS AND I WOULD GLADLY YIELD 30 SECONDS TO THE GENTLELADY IF SHE WANTS TO EXPLAIN FURTHER, I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS USED AS A POSITIVE MEASURABILITY, I'M SFR ARIZONA AND I LIKE SOLAR POWER, BUT SINCE ARE WE USING A POSITIVE, THE NUMBER OF JOBS IT TAKES TO CREATE A MEGAWATT. WILL IT BE SEEN AS A POSITIVE IN THE FUTURE IF IT TAKES MORE JOBS? IS THAT A GOOD THING FOR THE ECONOMY? IS THAT A JOBS PROGRAM? IT BAFFLES ME SOMETIMES AT THE ARGUMENTS THAT ARE MADE AS TO WHY WE SHOULD KEEP PROGRAMS LIKE THIS GOING AND KEEP -- I WOULD BE GLAD TO YIELD TIME TO THE GENTLELADY.

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  • 08:35:24 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    THAT WE ARE CREATING --

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    MS. MCCOLLUM

    CREATING JOBS USINGLESS JOBS. AND THESE JOBS THAT ARE BEING CREATED ARE…

    CREATING JOBS USINGLESS JOBS. AND THESE JOBS THAT ARE BEING CREATED ARE IMPROVING OUR ECONOMY, OUR ABILITY TO CREATE INTERNATIONALLY AND THESE JOBS USE LESS ENERGY. SO WE AREN'T INVESTING IN NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND AREN'T INVESTING IN COAL BURNING.

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  • 08:35:58 PM

    MR. FLAKE

    THE GENTLELADY, BUT THAT IS PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE OF THE NUMBER OF JOBS…

    THE GENTLELADY, BUT THAT IS PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE OF THE NUMBER OF JOBS PER MEGA WHAT THE. IF -- MEGAWATT, IF IT MAKES MORE JOBS, THAT IS THE WAY WE SHOULD GO. THIS NOTION WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS GOING BECAUSE IT CREATES JOBS, IT JUST BAFFLED ME. I RICE IN SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT. WE OUGHT TO SAVE MONEY WHERE WE CAN AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:36:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT.

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    A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENTE OFFERED BY THE…

    CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENTE OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:37:02 PM

    THE CLERK

    CHEMICAL 17 AND HAZARD INVESTIGATION BOARD, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $10…

    CHEMICAL 17 AND HAZARD INVESTIGATION BOARD, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $10 MILLION. OFFICES OF AND-A-HALF HOE AND HOPI RELOCATION, $7 MILLION. INSTITUTE OF AMERICAN INDIAN AND ALASKA NATIVE CULTURE, $7 MILLION. SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION SALARIES AND EXPENSES $626 MILLION TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. CHARNLTE FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 08:37:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    14 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA.…

    14 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA. BROWN

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  • 08:37:57 PM

    MR. BROUN

    AMENDMENT WOULD REVERT THE FUNDING BACK TO 2008 LEVELS. THIS IS ASKING THE…

    AMENDMENT WOULD REVERT THE FUNDING BACK TO 2008 LEVELS. THIS IS ASKING THE SMITHSONIAN TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE. WE HAVE SPENT ALL THE MONEY IN OUR BANK AND THEN SOME. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHERE WE CAN AFFORD TO SPEND MONEY WHERE WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO. ASKING THE SMITHSONIAN TO SCALE BACK THEIR SPENDING TO LEVELS OF 2008 IS MORE THAN REASONABLE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:38:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 08:38:41 PM

    MR. MORAN

    CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. CHARKTE THE GENTLEMAN IS…

    CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. CHARKTE THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 08:38:49 PM

    MR. MORAN

    SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION IS THE WORLD'S LEADING MUSEUM COMPLEX. PEOPLE FROM…

    SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION IS THE WORLD'S LEADING MUSEUM COMPLEX. PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COME TO WASHINGTON OFTENTIMES WITH THE PRINCIPAL INTENT OF SEEING THE SIGNIFICANT SEASONIAN, BUT IT IS INVARYBLY PART OF THEIR TRIP TO OUR NATION'S CAPITAL AND SOMETHING THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF. IN FACT, WE SHOULD SPEND MORE OF OUR TIME IN THOSE MUSEUMS. THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARY. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. THEY TELL THE STORY OF IRNIGSE'S -- NATION'S ORIGIN AND THEY REFLECT THE EVOLUTION OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REAL VANLT TO OUR VERY EXISTENCE. AND IN ADDITION TO THE TRADITIONAL MUSEUMS ALONG OUR NATIONAL MALL, WE HAVE THE NATIONAL ZOO ZOO, AGAIN KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, BUT THIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CUT $55 MILLION WOULD WIND UP ELIMINATING 600 POSITIONS FROM THE SMITHSONIAN BECAUSE 90% OF NUMESR MUSEUMS ARE PERSONNEL. WE ARE TOLD THAT GIVEN THE EXISTING COSTS THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, NOT JUST PERSONNEL, BUT NOT ONLY ENERGY COSTS BUT MAINTAINING THE FINEST MUSEUM COMPLEX, THAT THE SMITHSONIAN WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT TWO, MAJOR MUSEUMS OR THE NATIONAL ZOO. DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE A RELATIVE FRACTION OF A BILL, THIS BILL IS ABOUT $27 BILLION, IN ORDER TO SAVE, WHAT IS THAT, HALF A PERCENT, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CLOSE ONE OR TWO OF THE FINEST MUSEUMS IN THE WORLD. NOW, IF YOU DID ABOLISH 600 FEDERAL POSITIONS THE SMITHSONIAN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY SEVERANCE COSTS AND CREATE PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT TURMOIL FOR YEARS. YOU WOULD BE SAYING TO THE SMITHSONIAN, WHICH MAKES US PROUD FOR THE QUALITY AND REALLY THE EFFICIENCY OF ITS OPERATION, YOU WOULD WOULD BE SAYING, SORRY, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. THE REALITY IS, IF YOU WOULD ASK THE FEDERAL TAXPAYER, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE IN THIS REGION, BUT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, HOW IMPORTANT THE SMITHSONIAN IS, SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD MAKE IT A PRIORITY. LAST THINGS WE WOULD WANT, IT SEEMS, OUR VISITORS COME FROM OUR DISTRICTS TO WASHINGTON AND WE HAVE A SIGN ON THE FRONT DOOR, ONE OF THE MAJOR MUSEUMS, SORRY, CLOSED DUE TO SHORT-TERM BUDGET CUTS. NOW, I TRUST THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE FINAL REALITY, BUT IF WE WERE TO PASS SUCH AN AMENDMENT WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS, I THINK IT WOULD SEND A SIGNAL. IT'S THE WRONG SIGNAL. JUST AS UNCERTAINTY THE DEBT CEILING IS SENDING TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, THIS IS THE WRONG SIGNAL TO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK SO HARD AT THE SIGNIFICANT SEASONIAN AND WRONG SIGNAL TO SEND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. KIND OF SHOCKING WE WOULD HAVE SUCH AMENDMENT, FRANKLY. THE COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT EVERY LINE ITEM, HAS CUT EVERY PLACE THEY COULD WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS AND WE POINT DED OUT THOSE EXCEPTIONS, BUT THE COMMITTEE, I'M SURE, DID NOT CONSIDER CLOSING DOWN ONE OR TWO OF OUR MAJOR MUSEUMS ON THE NATIONAL MALL IN ORDER TO SAVE A FRACTION OF 1% OF THE COST OF THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL. SO I WOULD VERY, VERY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS MISGUIDED AMENDMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 08:44:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. HOLT

    MY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA, I MUST SAY THIS IS ALMOST INCOMPREHENSIBLE.…

    MY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA, I MUST SAY THIS IS ALMOST INCOMPREHENSIBLE. THE SMITHSONIAN AS A COLLECTION OF MUSEUMS AND THE PARK THAT MY COLLEAGUE TALKED ABOUT IS HALF THE PICTURE. AND INDEED, IF ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE CLOSED, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF UNHAPPY FAMILIES FROM GEORGIA AND TENNESSEE AND MONTANA AND ALL THE 50 STATES. BUT IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT. THE SMITHSONIAN IS A COLLECTION OF RESEARCH CENTERS THAT GOES BEYOND FOLK ART, JEWELRY AND PANDAS. THE SMITH SEASONIAN OBSERVATORY, ONE OF THE FINEST COLLECTION OF OUR WORLD IN UNDERSTANDING THE UNIVERSE, BORROWED COLORADO ISLAND IN PANAMA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANAMA CANAL, PROBABLY THE PRINCIPAL RESEARCH CENTER FOR UNDERSTANDING THE WORKINGS OF OUR BIOLOGICAL WORLD, YES, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF UNHAPPY FAMILIES IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO GO THROUGH, BUT MOANING THOSE 600 POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE LOST NO DOUBT WOULD BE SOME OF THE FINEST SCIENTISTS IN THE UNITED STATES, IN FACT, IN THE WORLD. AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF UNHAPPY SCIENTISTS AROUND THE WORLD WHO WOULD WONDER WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE THEY THINKING OF? WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE THEY THINKING OF IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WHEN THEY CUT BACK ON THESE RESEARCH EFFORTS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:46:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM WYOMING RISE?

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  • 08:46:18 PM

    MRS. LUMMIS

    CHAIRMAN, TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. .

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    MRS. LUMMIS

    I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE REQUEST FOR THIS WAS $110 MILLION MORE…

    I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE REQUEST FOR THIS WAS $110 MILLION MORE THAN IS APPROPRIATED AND THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE DID CUT THIS CURRENT BUDGET BY $10 MILLION ALREADY AND I'D ALSO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PHILOSOPHICALLY BASED AND THAT IS MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW AND IT'S SHARED BY MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE AISLE THAT WE SHOULD BE FENDING FEDERAL FUNCTIONS WHILE WE ARE HERE IN WASHINGTON AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CERTAIN FUNCTIONS REALLY CAN BE HANDLED AS WELL OR BETTER BY THE STATES. AND THAT THE STATES CREATED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AND SO WE SHOULD BE DEFERRING TO THE STATES FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT SPECIFIED EITHER IN THE CONSTITUTION OR IS PURELY A FEDERAL FUNCTION. THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION IS A PURELY FEDERAL FUNCTION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THAT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY THROUGH US ARE STEWARDS OF AND I BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE AS A PURELY FEDERAL FUNCTION THAT WE FUND IT ADEQUATELY. NOW, WE HAVE, AS I POINT OUT, REDUCED ITS BUDGET DURING THESE TOUGH FISCAL TIMES BUT AS SOMETHING THAT IS PURELY FEDERAL IN ITS APPROACH AND THE BENEFIT TO OUR NATION AND INDEED TO THE WORLD THAT IS PROVIDED BY THIS GREAT GIFT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CENTURIES AGO I DO RISE IN -- AGO, I DO RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:48:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 08:48:38 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SIMPSON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS IS TRULY ONE OF…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS IS TRULY ONE OF THE LESS THOUGHT-OUT AMENDMENTS I THINK THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO THIS BILL. THE SMITHSONIAN IS TRULY A GEM IN THIS COUNTRY, ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THE IMPORTANT ROLE THEY PLAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU DON'T COME TO WASHINGTON. THE SMITHSONIAN DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, THEY ONLY OPERATE MUSEUMS HERE. THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH. THE SMITHSONIAN OPERATES ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN DIGITIZATION OF THEIR -- DIGITALIZATION OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE IN THEIR MUSEUM AND THEIR REACHING OUT TO SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH, IT IS MAKING AN AMAZING DIFFERENCE. GO ON THEIR WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR YOUR IPHONE THAT ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, PLUS THE RESEARCH THAT THEY DO ON A VARIETY OF THINGS AROUND THIS COUNTRY IS JUST AMAZING. IF THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO REDUCE THIS BY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN TAKE ADS 58 MILLION HIT, I GUESS, BUT THIS IS -- A $58 MILLION HIT, I GUESS, BUT THIS IS BELOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT ASKED. ANOTHER $58 MILLION HIT ON THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL HIT. THEY ALSO RAISE $158 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDS. THAT TELLS YOU THE PRIVATE CORPORATIONS AND CITIZENS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY LOVE WHAT THE SMITHSONIAN DOES AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. IF YOU WANT TO GET THE PUBLIC OUTRAGED, SLICE THE SMITHSONIAN'S FUNDING SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES HERE TO VISIT WASHINGTON, MAYBE A TRIP THEY PLANNED ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THEY WANT TO SEE THE NUMBER ONE THING THEY CAME TO SEE, GUESS WHAT IT IS? AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM. AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT OCCUR HERE. BUT THE SMITHSONIAN IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. GO LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO AT THE NATIONAL ZOO. GO LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR COLLECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATION. I'M ONLY SORRY THAT IN THIS BUDGET CLIMATE, AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE BUDGET DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN. THE SMITHSONIAN IS ONE OF THEM. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT NOT ONLY WOULD THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT BUT THEY WOULD VOTE HOPEFULLY UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST IT AND IN SUPPORT OF THE SMITHSONIAN AND THE WORK THEY DO FOR THIS COUNTRY. AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:51:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? MS.

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  • 08:51:21 PM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    I -- YEAH. I ASK TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. WOOLSEY

    I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM THE COOLEST GRANDMOTHER IN THIS COUNTRY AS…

    I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM THE COOLEST GRANDMOTHER IN THIS COUNTRY AS FAR AS MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE CONCERNED. NOT BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND HAVE BEEN FOR 19 YEARS BUT BECAUSE I LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE NATIONAL ZOO. THEY COME HERE, THEY CANNOT GET ENOUGH OF THE NATIONAL ZOO THAT IS SPONSORED BY THIS SMITHSONIAN. AND THEN WHEN THEY'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE NATIONAL ZOO AND KNOW THEY CAN COME BACK THE DAY AFTER , THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY TO THE SMITHSONIAN AND IT DEPENDS ON THEIR AGE AND THEY'VE DEVELOPED OVER THESE YEARS FROM WANTING THE SIMPLEST ENTERTAINMENTS AT THE ZOO TO BEING VERY CURIOUS AND WANTING TO KNOW MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT, MY 7-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON THAT WAS HERE OVER THE FOURTH OF JULY IS COMMITTED TO BE A SCIENTIST FROM WHAT HE EXPERIENCED OVER THIS LAST WEEK AND FEW TIMES HE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE. IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE GRANDCHILDREN, MAYBE YOU DON'T GET IT. YOU THINK THAT THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT THERE IS NOBODY THAT COMES INTO MY OFFICE OF ANY AGE THAT DOESN'T THANK ME FOR THE EXPERIENCE THEY'VE HAD AT THE SCHMIDT SONIAN. I REMIND THEM -- AT THE SMITHSONIAN. I REMIND THEM THAT IT IS THEIR ENTITY, IT ISN'T OURS. THEY PAY FOR IT THROUGH THEIR TAXES AND THEY ARE PROUD TO DO THAT. I STAND HERE AGAINST THAT AMENDMENT AND IN SUPPORT OF THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE. THANK YOU.

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  • 08:53:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 08:53:25 PM

    MR. BROUN

    REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE, PLEASE.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 08:53:38 PM

    THE CLERK

    22, FACILITIES CAPITOL, $124,750,000. NATIONAL GALLERY OF ARTS, SALARIES…

    22, FACILITIES CAPITOL, $124,750,000. NATIONAL GALLERY OF ARTS, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $112,185,000. REPAIR RESTORATION D REPAIR, RESTORATION AND RENOVATION OF BUILDINGS, $13,938,000. JOHN F. KENNEDY CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, $22,45,000. CAPITOL REPAIR AND REST -- $22,455,000. CAPITOL REPAIR AND RESTORATION, WOODROW WILSON INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR SCHOLARS, SALARIES AND EXPENSES, $10 MILLION TO REMAIN AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2013. NATIONAL FOUNDATION ON THE ARTS AND THE HUMANITIES, NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR ARTS, GRANTS AND ADMINISTRATION, $135 MILLION.

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  • 08:54:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL SUSPEND. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN…

    THE CLERK WILL SUSPEND. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN RISE?

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  • 08:54:43 PM

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    MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. WALBERG

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TONIGHT I'M OFFERING AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TONIGHT I'M OFFERING AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD REDUCE FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006 LEVELS. IN FEBRUARY DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 1 I OFFERED A SIMILAR AMENDMENT TO CUT N.E.A. FUNDING WHICH THE HOUSE ADOPTED. THE UNDERLYING BILL FUNDS THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AT $135 MILLION WHICH IS $19.7 MILLION REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR'S LEVELS. I COMMEND CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMITTEE FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THIS FUNDING HAS PRECIPITATED AT AN UNSUSTAINABLE RATE. SINCE 2008 THE N.E.A. HAS RECEIVED INCREASES OF OVER $10 MILLION EACH YEAR INCLUDING $50 MILLION IN FUNDING FROM STIMULUS IN 2009. THESE SPENDING INCREASES HAVE COINCIDED WITH ANNUAL TRILLION-DOLLAR DEFICITS. MY AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE FUNDING LEVELS BACK TO FISCAL YEAR 2006 LEVELS AND $124.4 MILLION. IF ACCEPTED THIS CUT RETURNS $10.6 MILLION TO THE SPENDING REDUCTION ACCOUNT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW I BELIEVE IN THE FINE ARTS AND OF COURSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S DEFINED BY INDIVIDUAL STANDARDS. IN THE PAST I WAS PRIVILEGED TO SERVE ON A SYMPHONY BOARD FOR A TIME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. MY EARLY YEARS I WAS BROUGHT TO THE CHICAGO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA BY MY PARENTS, SCHOOL TRIPS AND OTHERWISE AND APPRECIATE THE IMPACT THAT THE FINE ARTS CAN HAVE. TRAMP THROUGH ART MUSEUMS CONSCIOUS -- TRAMPING THROUGH ART MUSEUM -- MUSEUMS IS NOT FOREIGN TO ME AS WELL AND ENJOYING MUCH OF WHICH I SEE. BUT A TIME WHEN OUR GOVERNMENT MUST CUT FEDERAL SPENDING, AT A TIME WHEN OUR TAXPAYERS CUT AND FIX AND REPAIR AND ALTER THEIR OWN LIFESTYLES AND THEIR SPENDING, THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE ARTS SHOULD BE THROUGH PHILANTHROPY NOT FORCING OPEN THE TAXPAYERS' WALLET WITHOUT THEIR CHOICE. THE NATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR THE ARTS DOES PROVIDE BENEFITS TO OUR COUNTRY AND HELPS FUND OUR TRUE FINE ARTS. HOWEVER WE'RE ASKING THEM TO ONLY FUND THEIR TRUE PRIORITIES AND THEY CAN MAKE THOSE PRIORITIES. WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE N.E.A. HAS SUPPORTED. I'M TEMPTED TO BUT I WILL REFRAIN FROM GIVING EXPLICIT ILLUSTRATIONS OF FUNDED PROGRAMS , PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE UNDERTAKEN WITH MUCH TAXPAYER DISAPPROVAL, BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT IN RECENT YEARS THE N.E.A. HAS FUNDED EXHIBITS THAT DISPARAGE RELIGION, PROMOTE PORN AND SUPPORT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS. THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL TAXPAYER AND SHOULD NOT BE. MY AMENDMENT ASKS THE N.E.A. TO ONLY FUND THEIR TRUE PRIORITIES. NOW, IF THEY WANT TO DETERMINE THOSE PRIORITIES, SO BE IT. BUT IF THEY WANT TO DETERMINE PRIORITIES FOR YOUTH CONCERT SERIES OR YOUNG COMPOSERS OR YOU NAME IT, THAT WILL BE A CHOICE AS WELL AND I THINK MOST TAXPAYERS WOULD SUPPORT THOSE CHOICES. OUR COUNTRY IS IN FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. AND THE SPONSORS OF THE ARTS SHOULD BE SPONSORS OF THE ARTS, AS I AM. BUT TAXPAYERS OUGHT TO KNOW THAT WE WILL EXPECT THEM, LIKE THE REST OF THE PROGRAMS AND CERTAINLY THE REST OF SOCIETY, TO BE EFFICIENT AT THIS TIME. OUR COUNTRY IS IN A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND WE'RE NOT TAKING PROGRAMS LIKE THE N.E.A. OFF THE TABLE, WE'RE JUST ASKING THEM TO ESTABLISH PRIORITIES WITH REDUCED FUNDING, YES, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EFFICIENTLY CONVEY TO THE TAXPAYERS THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AS WELL. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:59:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE?

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  • 08:59:41 PM

    MR. MORAN

    RISE TO CLAIM THE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MORAN

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'RE A GREAT COUNTRY, GREAT COUNTRIES UNDERSTAND…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'RE A GREAT COUNTRY, GREAT COUNTRIES UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ARTS, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, BUT TO LEAVE A LASTING LEGACY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. THE ARTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL ASPIRATIONS OF MANKIND. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO EVOKE COMPASSION. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVOKE THE KIND OF SPIRITEDNESS THAT CAUSES COUNTRIES TO SHOW UNDAUNTED COURAGE, RISE ABOVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE DAY IN PURSUIT OF FAR MORE NOBLE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES. THE VALUE OF THE ARTS TRANSCENDS ANYTHING THAT WE CAN QUANTIFY IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND CENTS. WE SHOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY PROUD OF OUR NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. DENISE GRAVES, WHO IS ONE OF THE FINEST OPERA SINGERS IN THE WORLD, WHO CAN STIR THE EMOTIONS JUST BY HEARING HER BEAUTIFUL, EXTRAORDINARY VOICE. SHE SAID THAT SHE GREW UP IN WASHINGTON. WHERE THE KENNEDY CENTER IS. BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE OTHER END OF THE WORLD. IF SHE HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO A PROGRAM FUNDED BY THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF MEN AND WOMEN, YOUNG, MIDDLE-AGED, OLD, WHO HAVE COME INTO CONTACT BECAUSE OF THE OUTREACH THAT THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS HAS PROVIDED. AND THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO BY USE OF THE ARTS, BY SETTING UP A THEATER, BY PULLING PEOPLE TOGETHER, BY GETTING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE N.E.A., WHICH IS FAR MORE AN ENDORSEMENT THAN IT IS FINANCIAL SUPPORT, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP LOCAL ECONOMIES. WE'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF BIG NAME PERFORMERS NOW WHO SAID THEY GOT THEIR ENTRY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR CAREER, THROUGH THE N.E.A. SOME GAVE BACK BY DEVELOPING A THEATER IN COMMUNITIES THAT THEY THOUGHT HAD SEEN THEIR BEST DAYS BEHIND THEM AND YET BY UNITING THE COMMUNITY, IT'S CLEAR NOW THEIR BEST DAYS ARE AHEAD OF THEM BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN THAT COMMUNITY. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE ARTS THAT ARE PROVIDED. THIS PROGRAM DOES SO MUCH WITH SO LITTLE. AND YET THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO CUT $10.6 MILLION, THAT'S.03% OF NONDEFENSE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING. WE HAD $174 MILLION IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 BILL. IT WAS CUT DOWN TO $155 MILLION, ULTIMATELY, FOR F.Y. 2011. NOW IT'S BEEN CUT ANOTHER $20 MILLION, DOWN TO $135 MILLION. I KNOW MY GOOD FRIEND FROM IDAHO, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, WISHES AND KNOWS IT SHOULD BE MORE. BUT I THINK MOST OF US, WHEN WE REFLECT, UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO TAKE MONEY FROM PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE SO MUCH TO REALLY THE HEART AND SOUL OF THIS NATION, WE WILL LOSE THOSE ABILITIES, THOSE INSTRUMENTS WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE HARSHNESS AND RANCOR THAT DIVIDES US. IT'S THE POWERFUL MEDIA OF THE ARTS THAT ENABLE US TO TRANSCEND OUR DIFFERENCES. TO APPRECIATE REAL BEAUTY. THE TRUTH THAT COMES THROUGH THE FINE ARTS AND THE CRACE THAT ENOBALS THE HUMAN SPIRIT. N.E.A. IS A CATALYST. IT HELPS US CREATE AND SUSTAIN ARTS. DOESN'T REALLY FUND MUCH. WHAT IT DOES IS TO SPAWN THE ARTS. IT GENERATES INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS. THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED PHILANTHROPY. THERE'S A GREAT DEEFL MONEY OUT IN THIS COUNTRY. WE'RE STILL THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO THINK THAT WE'RE POVERTY STRICKEN, THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME OF OUR WORST DAYS, WE ARE A GREAT AND POWERFUL AND WEALTHY NATION. PHILANTHROPY IS THE PRINCIPAL SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE ARTS, BUT N.E.A. SHAPES MUCH OF THAT FUNDING. THE MAGNET FOR BUSINESSES. ALMOST $7 -- ALMOST 700,000 BUSINESSES INVOLVE THE CREATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE ARTS.

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  • 09:06:11 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. MORAN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR ADDITION -- FOR AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE…

    IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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  • 09:06:25 PM

    MR. MORAN

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND THANK MY COLLEAGUES. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND THANK MY COLLEAGUES. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE THIS NOMINAL INVESTMENT IN THE CULTURAL LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS AND IN OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES. I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW A NATION AS RICH AND PROSPEROUS AS OURS WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT A PRIORITY TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. THERE'S TOO MUCH THAT DIVIDES US AS A NATION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE UNITING US. DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE, EVERYONE CAN APPRECIATE THE ARTS BECAUSE IT INSPIRES US ALL. BECAUSE IT INSPIRES US TO LOOK PAST THE PAROCHIAL, THE SMALL-MINDEDNESS, TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE TO APPRECIATE GREATNESS. THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DEFEATED AND IN IT WE SHOULD SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE LIFE BLOOD OF OUR NATIONAL COMMUNITY. I YIELD BACK MY TIME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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  • 09:07:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM IDAHO RISE?

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  • 09:07:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:07:43 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    LET ME ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE WORDS OF ANY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA…

    LET ME ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE WORDS OF ANY GOOD FRIEND FROM VIRGINIA AND HIS COMMENTS ON THIS. THE WALBERG AMENDMENT WOULD RETURN THE N.E.A. FUNDING TO THE 2006 LEFT-FIELD LINES. THE N.E.A. IS FUNNED IN THIS BILL AT $135 MILLION WHICH IS A $20 MILLION REDUCTION FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2011 ENACTED LEVEL, A $32.5 MILLION REDUCTION FROM THE FISCAL CAREER 2010 ENACTED LEVEL AND A $10 MILLION REDUCTION FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2008 ENACTED LEVEL. I WAS ASKED EARLIER BY A MEMBER, WOULD YOU SUPPORT JUST GOING BACK TO THE 2008 LEVEL? WE COULD DO THAT BUT WE'D HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER $10 MILLION TO IT AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. THIS WOULD TAKE IT BACK TO THE 2006 LEVEL, AS I SAID. OVERALL, THE COMMITTEE HAS CUT $2.11 BILLION IN THIS -- $.1 BILLION IN THIS BILL. THIS IS ON -- $2.1 BILLION IN THIS BILL. THIS IS ON TOP OF WHAT WE CUT EARLIER. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT IS EXCESSIVE. BUT I KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE, VOTING AGAINST ANY FUNDING FOR THE ARTS IS NOT A PROBLEM. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT THE SPONSOR OF THIS SAYS. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE ARTS AT ALL. WHEN WE RAN INTO PROBLEMS, BEFORE I WAS HERE, MAYBE IT WAS WHEN MR. MORAN WAS HERE, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT THEY RAN INTO CONTROVERSY WITH THE ARTS AND FUNDING FOR INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. SINCE THEN, THE INTERIOR APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAS DONE SOME WORKING WITH THE N.E.A., SOME REFORMS SO WE DON'T FUND INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. WE FUND WHAT THE INTENT IS, I THINK, OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS. THAT IS TO GET THE ARTS OUT TO THE REST OF AMERICA. IF YOU'RE IN, SOMETIMES IN A LARGE CITY AND THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ARTS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IDAHO, YOU DON'T HAVE ACT SS TO ARTS LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER AREAS. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON IS MAKING SURE THAT THE ARTS GET OUT TO RURAL AMERICA SO THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE ART PERFORMANCES, WHETHER THEY'RE THE VISUAL ARTS OR THE PERFORMING ARTS OR OTHER THINGS BUT WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT TO RURAL AMERICA. IF YOU WANT TO COME TO BOISE, IDAHO, YOU WILL HAVE MISSED BOISE, IDAHO IN THE SUMMER IF YOU DON'T GO TO THE IDAHO SHAKESPEARE FESTIVAL, PARTLY FUNDED BY A GRANT FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FROM THE ARTS. YES, THEY RAISE PRIVATE FUNDS, BUT PART OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. THE CHAIRMAN WAS OUT IN IDAHO LAST SPRING, I GUESS IT WAS, AND WE TOURED AROUND IDAHO AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE ARTS PROGRAMS, THE LOCAL ART AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE SOME FUNDING FROM THE N.E.A. AND THE IMPACT IT HAD ON THEIR OPERATIONS. WE ALSO WENT TO JEROME HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE THE IDAHO SHAKESPEARE FESTIVAL, THE ACTORS THAT DID THE PERFORMANCES IN BOISE AT THE FESTIVAL TOURED THE SCHOOLS. AND GAVE PERFORMANCES TO STUDENTS. AND THEN THEY SAT THERE AFTERWARDS AND TALKED WITH THE STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT IT WAS TO BE IN THE PERFORMING ARTS. HOW YOU GET INTO IT. WHAT THE PLUSES AND MINUSES OF IT WERE, AND OTHER THINGS. THEY HELPED EDUCATE THESE STUDENTS IN THESE COMMUNITIES. VERY IMPORTANT THING. ONE THING WE'VE DONE IN THIS BILL OR A NUMBER OF THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THIS BILL, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF POPULAR PROGRAMS, POPULAR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. THE AMERICAN JAZZ MASTERS PROGRAM, THE HERITAGE FELLOWSHIPS, THE BIG READ PROGRAM, SHAKESPEARE IN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, ARE ALL -- ALL HAVE THEIR FUNDING MAINTAINED, NOT AT PREVIOUS LEVELS BUT AT A LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THESE POPULAR PROGRAMS. THE CHAIRMAN HAS INTRODUCED A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM ON, EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD WORK AND WHAT IT WOULD BE, CALLED OUR TOWN, HOW THE ARTS CAN HELP TRANSFORM LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND STUFF THROUGH A GRANT PROGRAM. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE ARTS ARE IMPORTANT. AND I THINK HAVING A FEDERAL INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO HAVE. I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 09:12:14 PM

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    THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AS I LISTENED TO THE…

    THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AS I LISTENED TO THE OPPOSITION TO IT, YOU DIDN'T CATCH MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE ARTS OR THE N.E.A. IS WRONG. I'M SAY IT'S TIME TO MAKE PRIORITY DECISION AND CERTAIN PRIORITY DECISIONS AS RECENTLY AS NOVEMBER OF 2010 FUND PROGRAMS, FIRE IN THE BELLY, I WON'T GO INTO THE DEPRESCRIPTION OF IT, "HIDE AND SEEK" THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED PORNOGRAPHY, AND WAS, AN EXHIBIT THAT WAS PORTRAYED AS THAT. MR.

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  • 09:12:52 PM

    MR. WALBERG

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    MR. SIMPSON

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN. "HIDE AND SEEK" PROGRAM WAS NOT AN…

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN. "HIDE AND SEEK" PROGRAM WAS NOT AN N.E.A. PROGRAM. THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE N.E.A. SO, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT IS DONE IN THIS COUNTRY OR THIS STATE OR THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS DONE IN THE NAME OF ARTS IS DONE BY THE N.E.A., AN THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH. SO WHEN WE ATTACK THEM BECAUSE OF "HIDE AND SEEK," THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. AGAIN, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN CRITICISMS OF THE N.E.A. BECAUSE OF -- MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS FUNDING THAT WENT ON. THE COMMITTEE HAS ADDRESSED THAT AND MADE REFORMS WORKING WITH THE N.E.A. TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE NOT FUNDED. IN THIS BILL. THAT WE DON'T FUND INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. THAT -- THE MAIN FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM IS TO GET THE ARTS OUT INTO THE RURAL COMMUNITIES. THE AMERICAN JAZZ MASTERS PROGRAM, THE BIG READ PROGRAM, ALL VITALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAMS THAT I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE AND I THINK MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE LIKE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE.

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  • 09:14:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE RISE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. ACCORDINGLY, THE COMMITTEE

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  • 09:14:45 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 DIRECTS ME TO REPORT THAT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 09:15:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO…

    THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE SNR

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  • 09:15:15 PM

    MR. DREIER

    THE DESK A PRIVILEGED REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE OF RULES FOR FILING UNDER…

    THE DESK A PRIVILEGED REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE OF RULES FOR FILING UNDER THE RULE.

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  • 09:15:22 PM

    THE CLERK

    627 TO ESTABLISH THE COMMISSION ON FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, PROCESS AND…

    627 TO ESTABLISH THE COMMISSION ON FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, PROCESS AND DELAYS AND INFORMATION OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 09:15:39 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN…

    REFERRED TO THE HOUSE AND ORDERED PRINTED. THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA, MR. PAULSEN, KINDLY RESUME THE CHAIR.

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  • 09:16:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE FURTHER…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2584.

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  • 09:16:13 PM

    THE CLERK

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,…

    A BILL MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2012 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 09:16:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY, AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY, AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. WALBERG IS PENDING. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 09:16:38 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    SPEAKER, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS. THE NATIONAL…

    SPEAKER, I MOVE TO STRIKE THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF WORDS. THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS HAS A 40-YEAR HISTORY OF INVESTING IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO EXPAND ACCESS TO THE ARTS. IT HAS AWARDED 2,400 GRANTS UNTIL ALL 435 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. THE PROPOSED CUTS WOULD HAVE A CRIPPLING EFFECT ON A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO WORK. HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE ARTS, I SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN AN ARTS BUILDING THAT IS A MASTERPIECE. BUT I'M GOING TO BE PRACTICAL TONIGHT. ALL WE ARE INTERESTED IN MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE GET FOR THAT LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. IN F.Y. 2010, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INVESTED $165.5 MILLION IN THE N.E.A. FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING TO NONE PROFITS ARTS ORGANIZATION. THAT FUNDING CREATED 1622.2 BILLION IN TOTAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, SUPPORTED 5.7 MILTION JOBS AND LISTEN TO THIS ONE, GENERATED TO THE U.S. GENERATION, $12.6 BILLION IN TAX REVENUE. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE STATE OR LOCAL TAX REVENUE. WE SPENT $167 MILLION AND GOT BACK $12 BILLION. I DEFY ANYBODY TO TELL ME WE GOT THAT RETURN ON ANY MONEY WE SPEND HERE. I WISH WE COULD MULTIPLY OUR MONEY. INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THESE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. WE SHOULD BE EXPANDING OUR INVESTMENT IN SUCH A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS. I'M THE PROUD CO-CHAIR OF THE CONGRESSIONAL ARTS CAUCUS AND SUPPORTED THE N.E.A. FOR 0 YEARS. THE ARTS CAUCUS IS COMPOSED OF 186 BIPARTISAN MEMBERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO THE GROWTH AND SUCCESS FOR THE ARTS AND WHY? BECAUSE THE ARTS MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THE N.E.A. REACHED ITS PEEK LEVEL IN 1992 BUT NEVER FULLY RECOVERED FROM A 40% CUT IN 1969 WHEN ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE MISCHARACTERIZED THE WORK OF THE N.E.A. WE HAVE SEEN PROGRESS WITH THE FUNDING SINCE 2008 BUT JUST LAST YEAR THE N.E.A. WAS FORCED TO DEAL WITH A CRIPPLING CUT. THIS YEAR'S APPROPRIATIONS BILL WILL TAKE EFFECT. THESE CUTS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE AND DO GREAT HARM TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ARTS SECTOR ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THIS WIDESPREAD NATIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS, INCLUDING COMPANIES LIKE BRAVO AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENS FOR US THAT WAS SO GOOD FROM WESTINGHOUSE AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD HIRE PEOPLE WHO HAD A BACKGROUND IN ART BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO, USING BOTH SIDES OF THE BRAIN. BRAVO HAS ARTS FOR CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY. BIPARTISAN U.S. CONGRESS OF MAYORS MADE ART A PRIORITY, SAYING FEDERAL RESOURCE ELSE MUST BE INVESTED IN ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH THEIR LOCAL ART AGENCIES WITH FULL FUNDING OF THE FEDERAL ARTS AND CULTURAL AGENCIES. IN ADDITION, I HAVE A LETTER FROM 26 NATIONAL ART ORGANIZATIONS URGING CONGRESS TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER REDUCTION TO THE INVESTMENT IN OUR NATION'S ARTS AND CULTURE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD.

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  • 09:20:38 PM

    THE CHAIR

    BE RECOVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE.

  • 09:20:41 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    THE TIME OF THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK HAS EXPIRED.

  • 09:22:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE TIME OF THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM NEW YORK HAS EXPIRED.

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    MS. SLAUGHTER

    MINUTES. MAY I ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR TWO MORE MINUTES.

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    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZE DOLLARS FOR TWO MORE MINUTES.

  • 09:22:24 PM

    MS. SLAUGHTER

    DOCTORS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS, ONLY…

    DOCTORS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DAVIS, ONLY DOCTORS WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HEAR AND ASSESS IS MUSIC. HIGH SCHOOL MUSIC SCORE HIGHER IN THE S.A.T.'S. STUDENTS WITH FOUR YEARS WITH ART IN HIGH SCHOOL HAVE MORE POINTS ON THEIR S.A.T.'S. WE ARE MAKING INVESTMENTS. BUT THEY PLAY IMPORTANT ROLES. THEY ATTRACT BUSINESSES. EVERYWHERE THERE IS ART IN EXISTENCE. PRESENCE OF THE ARTS CAN REVITALIZE RURAL AREAS, INNER CITIES, CULTURAL TOURISM WHICH BRINGS IN $192 BILLION A YEAR TO THE U.S. ECONOMY. LISTEN TO THOSE FIGURES. I HOPE YOU ARE IMPRESSED AS I ARE. IT IS EXPORTS TO THE COUNTRY BRINGING IN $30 BILLION. ONE STATISTIC I FIND TELLING, IN 2010, THE ATTENDANCE AT THREE NEW YORK MUSEUMS EXCEEDED THE ATTENDANCE OF ALL THE NEW YORK PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM COMBINED BY OVER 300,000 VISITS. PEOPLE ARE INCHTED TO ARTS AND THEY COME AGAIN AND AGAIN AND BRING THEIR FAMILIES. ALONG WITH ALL THIS IS A GREAT INTRINSIC VALUE. I MUST SAY, ART TELLS US WHO WE WERE, WHO WE ARE AND WHO WE HOPE TO BE. AND IF YOU THINK YOU ARE NOT AFFECTED, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HEAR "AMAZING GRACE," AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL." PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T DECIMATE THIS PROGRAM IN WHICH WE INVEST SO LITTLE, BUT GET BACK SO MUCH. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:24:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE…

    GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND RISE?

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  • 09:24:38 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:24:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:24:45 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE THE…

    WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE THE NECESSARY INVESTMENTS THAT CREATE JOBS NOW, GUARANTEE THE FUTURE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY AND RENEW THE VITALITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY REJECT THIS EFFORT TO REDUCE THE NATION'S INVESTMENT IN THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. OUR TARGETED FEDERAL INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS THROUGH THE N.E.A. IS VERY MODEST AND IS REALLY CRUCIAL TO SPURRING THE FOUNDATION PARTNERS THROUGH PHILANTHROPY AND VOL TERRORISM THAT HELP TO SUSTAIN ARTS AND INVESTMENTS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. THIS INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS BECOMES ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT DURING A TIME WHEN STATES AND CITIES ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FACE GREAT AREA AND GREATER FISCAL CONSTRAINTS AND AT THE SAME TIME ARE SEARCHING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION. I REPRESENT A STATE THAT HAS REALIZED AN EXTRAORDINARY RETURN ON INVESTMENTS GENERATED BY THE ARTS. IN RHODE ISLAND, THE PRESENCE OF THE ARTS ARE SEWN INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO RECENT DATA, IN JUST THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, MORE THAN 1,400 ARTS-LEGALITY RELATED BUSINESSES EMPLOY 16,000 PEOPLE AND THAT REPRESENTS 5% OF THE BUSINESSES IN MY DISTRICT. AS A FORMOR MAYOR OF PROVIDENCE I HAVE SEEN THE ECONOMIC OF ARTS AND TRANSFORM PEOPLE AND PLACES. I KNOW THE BENEFITS OF THE ARTS AND ENRICHING OUR COMMUNITIES AND UNITING THEM AS WELL. ARTS NOURISH OUR SOUL. THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF MAYORS SENT A LETTER TO THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS URGING US TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT RECOGNIZING THAT ARTS CREATE JOBS AND ARTS PUT PEOPLE TO WORK AND ARTS ATTRACT TOURISM REVENUE. ARTS ARE AN ENORMOUS PART OF WHAT FUELS OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES, BRINGING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VISITORS TO OUR CITIES, GENERATING ACTIVITY IN RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, TRANSPARENCY AND HOSPITAL SERVICES. THIS NOT ONLY STRENGTHENS OUR VITALITY BUT GENERATES REVENUES. ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, THIS IS MUCH MORE. IT CREATES MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND OPPORTUNITIES. DURING THIS PERIOD, WE SHOULDN'T NEGLECT THOSE INVESTMENTS WITH A PROVEN POSITIVE RATE OF RETURN AND SHOULDN'T SIPHON OFF THE RATE OF POWER. THE ECONOMY, COME PRIZING 7 50,000 BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYING 3 MILLION PEOPLE AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, CUTTING THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS UNDERMINES OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CREATE JOBS AND GROW OUR ECONOMY AND DIMINISHES US AS A NATION. AS ONE STUDY DEMONSTRATES WHEN WE CONSIDER THE CULTURAL SPENDING OF $1.4 BILLION, A RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS NINE TO ONE, IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT STRENGTH THING OUR ECONOMY AND PUTTING AMERICANS BABBLING TO WORK AND WE HAVE TO BE SMART, WITH ESTIMATES INDICATING THAT EVERY DOLLAR OF FEDERAL FUNDS INVESTMENT VESTED IN THE ARTS, FURTHER REDUCTION IN THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND WILL MOVE OUR NATION BACKWARDS. WE LOSE THE IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC RETURN ON INVESTMENTS BUT THIS CUT PUSHES OUR COUNTRY FURTHER BEHIND OUR COMPETITORS IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. IT WAS ONE OF THE GREAT GIANTS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, SENATOR PELL, THAT LED TO THE CREATION OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS IN 1965, THE PROGRAM WE ARE DEFENDING TODAY. SENATOR PELL OPENED HEARINGS ON PRELIMINARY LEGISLATION BY STATING, AND I QUOTE, I BELIEVE THIS CAUSE AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION AS A WORLDWIDE APPLICATION FOR AS OUR CULTURAL LIVES ARE ENHANCED AND STRENGTHENED SO DOES IT PROJECT ITSELF INTO THE WORLD BEYOND OUR SHORES. LET US PROVIDE ENERGY, A TRUE RENAISSANCE, AND THE UNSTUNTED GROWTH OF OUR CULTURAL VITALITY. SENATOR PELL SAID CLEARLY THAT THIS DISINVESTMENT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS, NEARLY 50 YEARS LATER IS A STARK AND APPALLING CONTRAST TO THE RENAISSANCE AND REAWAKENING TO THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS. THEY HAVE BEEN THE FARTHER FOR SPENDING CUTS IN OUR SCHOOLS AND FEDERAL LEVEL. IT IS IN OUR ECONOMIC PERIL THAT WE DEPRIVE OUR YOUTH AND COMMUNITIES TO THEIR CONNECTION TO THE ARTS. I HAVE SEEN ON SO MANY OCCASIONS -- IF I COULD SEE -- HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE TO CONCLUDE.

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  • 09:30:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION? OBJECTION IS HEARD. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    OBJECTION? OBJECTION IS HEARD. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 09:30:26 PM

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    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:30:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:30:34 PM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    AS SOON AS WEDNESDAY FOLLOWS TUESDAY, YOU CAN COUNT ON CONGRESSIONAL…

    AS SOON AS WEDNESDAY FOLLOWS TUESDAY, YOU CAN COUNT ON CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS TO GUT PROGRAMS BENEFITING ARTS AND HUMANITIES. IT'S AS PREDICTABLE AS IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNWISE. IT'S THE SAME OLD PENNY-WISE, POUND-FOOLISH APPROACH WE'VE COME TO EXPECT FROM A PARTY THAT WANTS TO SPEND LAVISHLY ON CORPORATE GIVEAWAYS WHILE CUTTING JUST ABOUT EVERY INITIATIVE THAT POWERS -- EMPOWERS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND IMPROVES LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WHILE THE NATION STANDS ON THE BRINK OF DEFAULT, WHILE REPUBLICAN STUBBORNNESS PUTS US LEES THAN A WEEK AWAY FROM ECONOMIC CALAMITY, WE'RE HAVING A DEBATE ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE ARTS THAT REPRESENTS THREE CENTS, THREE CENTS FOR EVERY $100 OF NONMILITARY DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. THREE CENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN. BELIEVE ME, THE BUDGET FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS ISN'T BREAKING THE BANK. GRANTS TO SUPPORT MUSEUMS AND THEATER COMPANIES ARE NOT WHAT CAUSED THE HUGE DEFICIT AND CUTTING THEM WILL NOT PUT US ON A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE COURSE. IN FACT, INVESTMENT IN THE ARTS MORE THAN PAY FOR THEMSELVES. FOR EVERY DOLLARS 1 SPENT ON ARTS PROGRAM THE COUNTRY GETS BACK $9 IN ECONOMIC BENEFIT MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE LOVE TO MAKE ARTS FUNDING A SCAPEGOAT. THEY NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THE SPENDING DEBATE INTO A CULTURE WAR OR REFERENDUM ON ART. BUT LET'S BE CLEAR. THE ARTS REPRESENT A VITAL ECONOMIC INDUSTRY, A MAINSTREAM EMPLOYER OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, AND AN INTEGRAL PART OF A FUNCTIONING SOCIETY. THE NONPROFIT ART SECTOR GENERATES MORE, MORE THAN $12 BILLION IN TAX REVENUES AND MORE THAN $166 BILLION IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY EVERY SINGLE YEAR. COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A VIBRANT ARTISTIC LIFE ARE MAGNETS FOR TOURISM AND CREATORS OF NEW BUSINESSES THAT WE KNOW CREATE JOBS. THERE'S ALSO EVIDENCE THAT COMMUNITIES EMBRACE THE ARTS -- THAT EMBRACE THE ARTS TEND TO HAVE HIGHER REAL ESTATE VALUES, MORE CIVIC ACTIVITIES AND VOLUNTEERISM, LESS CRIME AND LOWER POVERTY RATES. THE ARTS ARE ALSO A CRITICAL INGREDIENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CHILDREN. RESEARCH SHOWS US THAT STUDENTS RECEIVING ARTS EDUCATION PERFORM BETTER ACADEMICALLY AND ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUCCEED IN LIFE. BUT DESPITE ALL THE WAYS THAT ARTS SUPPORT THE COMMON GOOD, REPUBLICAN LEADERS WANT TO CUT N.E.A. INSTEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT'S TIME WE CUT BIG OIL SUBSIDIES AND CUT LOOPHOLES FOR CORPORATE JET OWNERS. ARTS PROGRAMS HAVE ALREADY TAKE AN BUDGET HIT IN RECENT YEARS AND ARE TRYING TO DO MORE WITH LESS. IF WE CAN GIVE BILLIONS IN SUBSIDIES TO OIL COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY RAKING IN RECORD PROFITS, THEN SURELY WE CAN MAINTAIN MODEST INVESTMENTS IN THE NONPROFIT ART SECTOR THAT MAKES A VITAL CONTRIBUTION TO AMERICAN LIFE. LET'S STOP BLAMING SMALL AGENCIES FOR A FISCAL CRISIS THAT WAS CAUSED BY THREE WARS AND TAX CUTS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM THE LEAST. LET'S MAINTAIN ROBUST FUNDING FOR N.E.A. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND.

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  • 09:34:25 PM

    MR. CICILLINE

    OWN PERIL WE CONTINUE TO CUT FUNDING FOR THE ARTS. I HAVE SEEN THE POWER…

    OWN PERIL WE CONTINUE TO CUT FUNDING FOR THE ARTS. I HAVE SEEN THE POWER OF MUSIC AND DANCE AND AT THER TO IGNITE THE IMAGINATION OF A YOUNG PERSON THAT CAUSES THEM TO STAY IN SCHOOL, FOLLOW THEIR PASSION AND REALIZE THEIR DREAM. TODAY'S GLOBAL ECONOMY DEMANDS AN EVEN GREATER LEVEL OF CREATIVITY, THINKING AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP A 20TH CENTURY SKILLSET ENHANCED BY EXPOSURE TO THE ARTS AND DAILY LIFE. I PARTICIPATED IN AN ARTS ROUND TABLE WITH C.E.O.'S A AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO SAID THAT THE SCOIFLS PROBLEM SOLVING AND INNOVATION WERE SKILLS THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN WORKERS OF THE 21ST CENTURY AND THE ARTS NOURISHES AND ENHANCES THOSE SKILLS. WE CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING CRITICAL FUNDING FOR ARTS TO FUEL OUR NATIONAL ECONOMIC RECOVERY TO GROW OUR ECONOMY, TEACH OUR CHILDREN AND EXPAND OURTIES COURSE IN THESE TRYING ECONOMIC TIMESISM STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT FURTHER CUTS TO THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. WE NEED THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE REAWAKENING, QUICKENING AND UNSTUNTING THE GROWTH OF OUR VITALITY AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.

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  • 09:35:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE TIME OF THE GENTLEWOMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE TIME OF THE GENTLEWOMAN HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RISE?

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  • 09:35:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINS.

  • 09:35:53 PM

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    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN WE IN THE HOUSE DECIDE HOW THE TAXPAYERS'…

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN WE IN THE HOUSE DECIDE HOW THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT, IT REPRESENTS A STATEMENT OF OUR VALUES, A STATEMENT OF OUR PRIORITIES.

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  • 09:36:09 PM

    MR. YARMUTH

    AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD ADEQUATELY FUND THE NATIONAL…

    AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD ADEQUATELY FUND THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS SPEAKS LOUDLY TO OUR VALUES, IT SPEAKS LOUDLY TO OUR RESPECT FOR THE CREATIVE GENIUS OF HUMAN BEINGS, IT SPEAKS LOUDLY ABOUT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE HUMAN SOUL IS ABOUT. WE'VE HEARD MUCH DOCUMENTATION OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE ARTS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. $165 BILLION ANNUALLY IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. I CERTAINLY CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT IN MY COMMUNITY OF LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, MORE THAN 20,000 OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE INVOLVED ACTIVELY, PROFESSIONALLY, IN THE ARTS. WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY COMMUNITIES THAT HAS RESIDENT THEATER, RESIDENT OPERA, BALLET, CHILDREN'S THEATER, A VIBRANT VISUAL ARTS COMMUNITY, IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES MY COMMUNITY A COMMUNITY WHERE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINS THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TO MY COMMUNITY. AND SO THE ECONOMIC IMPORTANCE OF THE ARTS IS UNDENIABLE. BUT I ASK AGAIN ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, ROUGHLY $10 MILLION OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS, WE SPENT IN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF OUR ACTIVITY IN LIBYA. THE FIRST FEW TOMAHAWK MISSILES WE LAUNCHED THERE, THAT WAS $10 MILLION. WE SPENT $10 MILLION IN LESS THAN ONE HOUR IN AFGHANISTAN. LESS THAN ONE HOUR. SO HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF JOBS, SUPPORTED BY FUNDING FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS, $165 BILLION IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. AGAINST ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO, WHERE THERE IS SO LITTLE PAYBACK FOR WHAT WE SPEND OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY. BUT THE TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION IN ADDITION TO KIND OF THE VALUE ADDED ASPECTS OF ARTS FUNDED -- FUNDING, IF YOU THINK BACK OVER THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, WHAT HAS SURVIVED OF THE GREAT CIVILIZATIONS OF THIS WORLD? THE ONLY THING THAT HAS SURVIVED HAS BEEN THE CREATIVE PRODUCT OF THE MINDS OF MEN AND WOMEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY. LITERATURE. MUSIC. ARCHITECTURE. PAINTING. SCULPTURE. THESE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT SURVIVED. IF YOU LOOK AROUND THIS GLORQUOUSE ROOM WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING IN, THE FAMOUS PAINTING OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, LAFAYETTE, THE ARCHITECTURE THAT'S REPRESENTED HERE. THIS IS ALL THE CREATIVE PRODUCT OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF GENERATIONS. THIS IS WHAT OUR SOUL SPEAKS TO THE WORLD, TO YEN RATIONS TO COME -- TO GENERATIONS TO COME AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING. ONE OF THE GREATEST EXPORTS WE HAVE FROM THIS COUNTRY IS OUR CULTURAL PRODUCT. WE EXPORT MUSIC, WE EXPORT FILM, WE EXPORT DRAMA, THEATER, ALL OF THESE THINGS, ACTIVITIES FUNDED BY THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. SO WHAT WE SAY TO OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR CONSTITUENTS, WHAT ARE YOUR VALUES? WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THOSE TOMAHAWK MISSILES ARE WONDERFUL. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, HUMANKIND, IT'S UNDENIABLE THAT WE -- WHAT WE INVEST, THE SMALL AMOUNT WE INVEST IN SUPPORTING OUR CREATIVE GENIUS WILL BE PAID BACK MANY, MANY TIMES OVER. SO I AM PROUD TO STAND HERE AND SUPPORT FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS, OPPOSING THE WALBERG AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD FURTHER CUT THE FUNDING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED AND STAND FOR THE VALUES OF THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO NOT ONLY PARTICIPATE IN ARTISTIC ACTIVITIES BUT ALSO BENEFIT IMMEASURABLY THROUGH ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COUNTRY. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:40:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY RISE?

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  • 09:40:56 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:40:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:41:09 PM

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    INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES.

  • 09:41:17 PM

    MR. HOLT

    ENDOWMENT GRANTS, IT WAS A REMINDER OF HOW TIGHT FUNDING IS FOR THESE…

    ENDOWMENT GRANTS, IT WAS A REMINDER OF HOW TIGHT FUNDING IS FOR THESE CRITICAL PROGRAMS. MY FRIEND POET PAUL MULDOON READ SOME POETRY TO THE ATTENDEES AND REMINDED ALL IN HIS WORDS, THE N.E.A. AND THE N.E.H. ARE NOT PROPERLY FUNDED, IT IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE. NOW THAT WAS BEFORE THE AMENDMENT THAT IS HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD CUT THE N.E.A. EVEN FURTHER. THE N.E.A. AND N.E.H. HELP ENSURE A WELL-ROUNDED EDUCATION AND RESULT IN A WELL-ROUNDED SOCIETY. NOW OF COURSE THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AND NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES ARE DIFFERENT. BUT THEY ARE SIMILAR IN WHAT THEY BRING TO OUR NATION. THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES INSPIRE OUR CHILDREN TO EX-PLER THEIR OWN CREATIVITY AND ENCOURAGE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COURSE OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL CAREERS. THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES ARE A FUNDAMENTAL COMPONENT OF OUR SOCIETY AND THEY INDEED WARRANT FEDERAL FUNDING. THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES HELP US KNOW OURSELVES AS A PEOPLE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, HERE ON THIS FLOOR, THE HOUSE APPROVED A BILL THAT INCREASED SPENDING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BY $17 BILLION. THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR THE ENDOWMENTS IS HARDLY MORE THAN A PERCENT OF THAT INCREASE. -- OF THAT INCREASE IN DEFENSE SPENDING THAT WAS PASSED. TALK ABOUT MISPLACED PRIORITIES. I'M REMINDED OF THE OFTEN-TOLD EXCHANGE BETWEEN SCIENTIST ROBERT WILSON, THE DIRECTOR OF FERMI LAB, WHEN HE WAS TESTIFYING BEFORE THE SENATE, AND A SENATOR. THE SENATOR ASKED WITH REGARD TO A SCIENCE EXPERIMENT AT FERMI LAB, WHETHER IT WOULD HELP DEFEND THIS COUNTRY AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION. REPLIED DR. WILSON, NO, SENATOR PASTORI, THIS WILL NOT HELP DEFEND US AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION BUT IT WILL HELP MAKE OUR COUNTRY MORE WORTH DEFENDING. THIS AMENDMENT IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT ARTS AND HUMANITIES ARE A LUXURY. THE AUTHOR OF THIS AMENDMENT, TO CUT THE N.E.A. FURTHER, SAYS AMERICA IS IMPOVERISHED. MR. SPEAKER, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WOULD LEAVE AMERICA REALLY IMPOVERISHED IS IF WE STRANGLE THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES. WE'VE HEARD WHAT THE ARTS CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMY. THE AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS IN ITS REPORT ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY DETAILS THAT THE ARTS SUPPORT MORE THAN FIVE MILLION JOBS, GENERATE TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GOVERNMENT REVENUE. ARTS ARE GOOD FOR OUR CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT, YES. THEY ARE GOOD FOR OUR SOCIETY AT LARGE AND GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. I'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF MY CONSTITUENTS ON THIS MATTER AND NEARLY EVERY ONE HAS PLEADED WITH ME TO PRESERVE AS MUCH FUNDING AS POSSIBLE FOR THE ARTS AND FOR THE HUMANITIES. AS ONE OF THEM SAID, POIGNANTLY, QUOTE, A NATION WITHOUT CULTURE IS A NATION WITHOUT A SOUL. END QUOTE. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND OTHER EFFORTS TO STRANGLE THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES IN AMERICA AND TO DEFUND THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AND THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 09:45:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE? .

  • 09:45:17 PM

    MR. SCOTT

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. OUR FOCUS OUGHT TO BE ON JOBS AND SOME OF…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. OUR FOCUS OUGHT TO BE ON JOBS AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, FUNDING THE ARTS CREATES JOBS. WE CREATE LOTS OF JOBS, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THE ARTS SUPPORTED BUT WHEN YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT GENERATE JOBS ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY. AND OUR FOCUS OUGHT TO BE ON EDUCATION. THOSE CHILDREN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE ARTS DO BETTER IN SCHOOL. WE ARE TRYING TO CUT FUNDING FOR THE ARTS IN THIS AMENDMENT AND WE CAN'T IGNORE WHY ALL THESE CUTS ARE NECESSARY. LAST DECEMBER, WE PASSED A TAX CUT OF $800 BILLION, $400 BILLION A YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE CUTS. MOST OF THE PROJECTIONS ARE WE NEED $4 TRILLION IN DEFICIT REZUCKS, $400 BILLION A YEAR. THAT'S THE SAME NUMBER, $400 BILLION TAX CUTS A YEAR AND NOW LOOKING TORE $400 BILLION SPENDING CUTS A YEAR. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CUTTING THE ARTS AND SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND EDUCATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE CANNOT IGNORE ALL OF THESE CUTS ARE DESIGNED TO PRESERVE THE TAX CUTS THAT WE PASSED LAST DECEMBER. AND SO TO PRESERVE THOSE TAX CUTS, MANY ARE GOING TO MILLIONAIRES, MULTI-MILLIONAIRES AND OIL COMPANIES, WE FIND OURSELVES HAVING TO DEAL WITH HAVING TO CUT THE ARTS. WE SHOULD NOT BE LULLED INTO ACCEPTING CAPS. CAPS DELAY THE INEVITABLE. BECAUSE CAPS DON'T CUT ANYTHING TODAY. WHEN YOU START APPROPRIATING UNDER THE CAPS, IN A FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS, WE FIND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE ARTS OR HEAD START OR EDUCATION OR SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE. WHEN YOU ACCEPT THE CAPS, YOU ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THESE CUTS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CRISIS TODAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE SOME DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING. THEY SAY IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS CONGRESS. THE DEBT CEILING ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE. WE NEED TO PASS IT WHERE WE MAKE CHOICES. DO WE WANT TO CUT MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY AND THE ARTS TO GO TO MILLIONAIRES? I HOPE NOT. AND WE SHOULD DEFEAT THIS AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:48:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA RISE?

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  • 09:48:10 PM

    MS. MCCOLLUM

    ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR CH ECONOMY AND THE NUMBER OF JOBS. THE ARTS…

    ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR CH ECONOMY AND THE NUMBER OF JOBS. THE ARTS ARE SO VITAL TO OUR CIVIC LIFE, IN 2008, THE CITIZENS OF MINNESOTA VOTED TO TAX THEMSELVES AND DEDICATE PART OF THEIR REVENUE TO THE ARTS. MINNESOTA IS THE ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE IS THERE A DEDICATED PUBLIC FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE ARTS. WE PASSED A LEGACY AMENDMENT, HUNTERS, CONSERVATION, PARENTS, SENIORS, ALL CAME TOGETHER TO SAY THE ARTS ALONG WITH PRESERVING OUR ENVIRONMENT IS INTEGRAL TO OUR WAY OF LIFE IN MINNESOTA. IN MY DISTRICT ALONE, THE ARTS EMPLOY 8,000 PEOPLE AND THE ARTS AND CULTURE INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTES $830 MILLION TO MINNESOTA'S ECONOMY. INVESTING IN THE ARTS MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE AND GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. AS HAS BEEN POINTED, FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT BY THE N.E.A., $9 IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IS GENERATED. WE MUST MAKE TOUGH CHOICES AND I BELIEVE THE N.E.A.'S BUDGET HAS BEEN TARGETED AND HAS BEEN SHRUNK ENOUGH. THE N.E.A.'S BUDGET HAS BEEN CUT 20% SINCE 2010. OUR ARTISTS, WRITERS, MUSICIANS, SINGERS, DANCERS, PHOTOGRAPHERS AND ACTORS, CONTRIBUTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND CREATE A SOCIAL SPACE FOR US TO COME TOGETHER. AND WE HEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM THE MAJOR CORPORATIONS FROM STARTUP COMPANIES, TO HEALTH CARE COMPANIES TO OUR UNIVERSITIES THAT IT IS AMERICAN CREATIVITY AND SPACE FOR THE ARTS THAT ALLOWS AMERICA TO MOVE FORWARD. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS CUT AND I REJECT ANY FURTHER ATTACKS ON THE N.E.A.'S BUDGET AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:50:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA RISE.

  • 09:50:32 PM

    MR. MORAN

    THE LAST WORD.

  • 09:50:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

  • 09:50:41 PM

    MR. MORAN

    ROSE PREVIOUSLY IN OPPOSITION TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION AND NOW I…

    ROSE PREVIOUSLY IN OPPOSITION TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION AND NOW I RISE TO STRIKE THE LAST WORD. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THIS WAS NOT SUCH A LATE HOUR, WE WOULD HAVE HAD FIVE, SIX TIMES AS MANY MEMBERS RISING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT AND I TRUST THEY REFLECT THE GENERAL SENTIMENT OF THE COUNTRY. YOU KNOW WINSTON CHURCHILL AT THE HEIGHT OF WORLD WAR II WAS TOLD BY HIS BUDGET DIRECTOR THAT TO CONSERVE MONEY FOR ARMAMENTS, THEY NEEDED TO CUT THE ARTS. AND HE TURNED TO HIM AND SAID, WE DO THAT, WHAT IS IT IN A WE'RE FIGHTING FOR? THE ARTS REFLECT THE HIGHEST ASPIRATIONS OF OUR HUMANITY. AND IN FACT, IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE A REFLECTION OF THE TRUE AMERICAN SPIRIT, OUR TALENT, OUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE, OUR ABILITY TO RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER. NOW, LET ME BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BODY HAS A DIRECT GRANT FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS GOING TO THEIR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. IF THIS AMENDMENT WAS TO PASS, MORE THAN $100 MILLION IN NON-FEDERAL MATCHING FUNDS FOR N.E.A. AWARDS WOULD BE LOST. THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS REACHED AS A RESULT WILL DECLINE BY 36 MILLION. COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF AMERICA NS. THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND YOUTH WILL DECLINE. AND, IN FACT, THERE WILL BE A 17% DECREASE IN STATE AND REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. I THINK IF THE MEMBERS FULLY CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF THIS, THEY WILL REALIZE THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN, HE COULD BE MAKING CONSIDERBLY MORE THAN HE IS MAKING TODAY IN INCOME, BUT HE HAS CHOSEN TO DEVOTE HIS TIME AND ATTENTION TO LEAD THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT GIVEN THE FISCAL SITUATION THAT CONFRONTS US, PERHAPS WE SHOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PLATFORMS FOR ARTISTS SO AS TO SAVE MONEY, HE HAS DETERMINED NOT TO REDUCE THE QUALITY OF ARTISTIC PERFORMANCE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE SO MANY TALENTED PEOPLE, SO MUCH POTENTIAL, AND IT IS THE N.E.A. THAT REACHES OUT AND FINDS THAT POTENTIAL. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THIS IS A FULLY NATIONAL PROGRAM. EVERY SINGLE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BENEFITS FROM GRANTS FROM THE N.E.A. AND THOSE GRANTS EXPAND THE ECONOMY, THE FOCUS OF THE GRANT AND IN FACT, MULTIPLE TIMES, I'M TRYING TO RECALL THE NUMBER, FIVE OR SIX TIMES AT A MINIMUM, MANY TIMES, 10 OR 20 TIMES, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS CONTRIBUTED TO A PARTICULAR ARTISTIC FOCUS WHEN THE N.E.A. DECIDES IT IS WORTHY OF GETTING A GRANT. THEY HAVE MAINTAINED THEIR CREDIBILITY. IN FACT, WHEN THEY WERE UNDER ATTACK IN THE 1990'S, THEY MADE SURE THAT EVERY GRANT PASSES A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SCRUTINY. EVEN THOUGH AND MOST OF US DON'T BELIEVE IN CENSORSHIP, THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THE COMPETING POLITICAL PRESSURES. THEY HAVE NAVIGATED THOSE POLITICAL WATERS. THE PROGRAM THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE REFERRED TO, IT'S A TERRIFIC PROGRAM THAT REALLY DEVELOPS THE BEST OF WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG NIGHT. WE HAVE TRIED TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OVER HERE AGAINST ANY NUMBER OF EFFORTS TO CUT PROGRAMS, TO REPEAL LEGISLATION. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT. I WOULD URGE THIS BODY TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS AND REALLY FOR THE PHENOMENAL ARTISTIC TALENT THAT IT UNDERSCORES AND GENERATES IN THIS COUNTRY.

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  • 09:56:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES MICHIGAN RISE?

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  • 09:56:28 PM

    MR. WALBERG

    I REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE.

  • 09:56:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN WILL BE POSTPONED. THE CLERK WILL READ.

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  • 09:56:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    LINE 14, NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES, GRANTS AND ADMINISTRATION,…

    LINE 14, NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES, GRANTS AND ADMINISTRATION, $135 MILLION.

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  • 09:56:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

  • 09:56:55 PM

    >>

    AMENDMENT AT THE DESK, IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD NUMBER 13.

  • 09:57:00 PM

    THE CLERK

    13 PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD OFFERED BY MR. BROUN OF GEORGIA.

  • 09:57:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. BROUP BROUN MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE…

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. BROUP BROUN MY AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE HUMANITIES BY A MERE 10%. I STOOD UP HERE AND OFFERED AMENDMENT AFTER AMENDMENT TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF OUR BUDGET THAT WE CAN AFFORD REASONABLE CUTS. IF YOU ADD ALL UP THOSE CUTS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD SAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE ARE FACING A FISCAL CRISIS IN THIS NATION, A FINANCIAL FIASCO AND IF WE CAN'T MAKE THE CUTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO GO INTO A TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. WE ARE BROKE. THEY SELL THEIR LUXURY CAR. STOP EATING STEAK AND LOBSTER AND EAT HAMBURG AND HOT DOGS. THEY TURN IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP TO THE COUNTRY CLUB. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE BEAUTIFUL THINGS, NICE THINGS, LUXURY THINGS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF LUXURIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO CONTINUE DOING SO BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC EMERGENCY AS A NATION. WE ARE BROKE. WE HAVE UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT. WE HAVE UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO LIVE AT A LOWER STANDARD THAN WE ARE TODAY IF WE KEEP THIS UP. MR. CHAIRMAN, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, CONGRESS WAS SICK AND WE NEEDED A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE AND I'M A MEDICAL DOCTOR. GOVERNMENT NEEDS AN INTERVENTION FOR ITS SPENDING ADDICTION AND ADDICTION MEDICINE SAYS IF THERE IS NO DENIAL THERE IS NO FIX. IF IS AN ECONOMIC DENIAL. WE HAVE TO STOP THE SPENDING. WHEN A BUSINESS GOES UNDER WATER, IT'S OVEREXTENDED, AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, WHAT DOES IT DO? IT LOWERS IT'S BORROWING LEVEL IF THE LENDER DOESN'T DO THAT. IT STARTS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE THE DEBT. THEN IT GOES THROUGH EVERY ASPECT OF ITS EXPENDITURES AND TRIES TO CUT EXPENSES ALL ACROSS THE BOARD IN EVERY AREA. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO DO THE SAME. AND THEN THE BUSINESS WILL LOOK AT HOW TO RAISE MORE REVENUE. DEMOCRAT COLLEAGUES SAY WE NEED TO RAISE REVENUE BY RAISING TAXES, BUT THAT WILL TAX AWAY JOBS. WE MUST CREATE JOBS HERE IN AMERICA. AND WE CREATE JOBS BY GETTING THE TAX BURDENEN AND REGULATORY BURDENEN OFF OF THE JOB CREATORS AND SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN AMERICA THAT ARE SUFFERING AND SUFFOCATING WITH THE OVERBURDENEN OF REGULATION AND TAXES. WE CAN CREATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT BY -- WE CAN CREATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT BY RAISING TAXES BUT BY RAISING TAXPAYERS. WE DO THAT BY PUTTING PEOPLE TO WORK AND CREATING A STRONG ECONOMY. IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS NATION. WE CAN'T KEEP GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AND NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES, I'VE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS AND FOR THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE AND OTHER THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL AND NICE, JUST LIKE THAT LUXURY AUTOMOBILE. BUT WE NEED TO STOP IT. THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION DEPENDS UPON IT. I'M FIGHTING FOR AMERICA. I'M FIGHTING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN. FUNDING FOR THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS DOES NOT NEED TO BE A PRIORITY IN THE MIDST OF THESE TRYING TIMES AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT A VERY SIMPLE REQUEST TO REDUCE ITS FUNDING BY 10%. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:01:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

  • 10:01:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

  • 10:02:00 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

  • 10:03:08 PM

    MR. MORAN

    NOW WOULD NOT WE TAKE UP THE SAME AMENDMENT OH THECK TIME THE BODY IS…

    NOW WOULD NOT WE TAKE UP THE SAME AMENDMENT OH THECK TIME THE BODY IS CONVENED.

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  • 10:03:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE AMENDMENT WILL STILL BE PENDING.

  • 10:03:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FRCH.

  • 10:03:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD…

    THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAVING HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 DIRECTS ME TO REPORT IT HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 10:03:51 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS…

    THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 2584 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON.

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  • 10:04:16 PM

    MR. SIMPSON

    I MOVE THAT THE HOUSE DO NOW ADJOURN. --

  • 10:04:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA.

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    I MOVE THAT THE HOUSE TO NOW ADJOURN.

  • 10:04:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION SON -- THE MOTION IS THAT THE HOUSE ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    THE QUESTION SON -- THE MOTION IS THAT THE HOUSE ADJOURN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. THE AYES HAVE IT.

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