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House Session - May 17, 2012

During Morning Hour, any member may speak for up to five minutes on any topic. When no additional members seek recognition, Morning Hour concludes.

Speakers:
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  • 10:00:20 AM

    HOST

    THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS FOR MORNING HOUR DEBATE. THE CHAIR WILL…

    THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS FOR MORNING HOUR DEBATE. THE CHAIR WILL ALTERNATE RECOGNITION BETWEEN THE PARTIES WITH EACH PARTY LIMITED TO ONE HOUR AND EACH MEMBER OTHER THAN THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS AND THE MINORITY WHIP LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES EACH, BUT IN NO EVENT SHALL DEBATE CONTINUE BEYOND 11:50 A.M. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. POE, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:01:23 AM

    MR. POE

    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE AND TO REVISE AND…

    I ASK PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE AND TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 10:01:26 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 10:01:35 AM

    MR. POE

    ONE MUGGY SUMMER NIGHT IN JULY OF 2011 IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS, JOHN WESLEY…

    ONE MUGGY SUMMER NIGHT IN JULY OF 2011 IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS, JOHN WESLEY NEROW GOT INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH HIS MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER. BEING THE WORTHLESS MAN THAT HE WAS HE BEAT THEM BOTH UP AND THEN FLED IN THE DARKNESS OF THE NIGHT. LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS CONFRONTED THE OUTLAW BUT HE FLED AWAY IN HIS TRUCK AND LED THE OFFICERS ON A HIGH-SPEED CHASE DOWN A DARK COUNTRY ROAD. MEANWHILE, DOWN THAT ROAD OFFICER BRIAN HEBERT INTENTIONALLY POSITIONED HIS VEHICLE AHEAD OF THE CHASE AND WAS ATTEMPTING TO RETRIEVE ROAD SPIKES OUT OF THE TRUNK TO STOP HIM AND HIS VEHICLE. BUT WHEN NEROW SAW HERBERT'S PATROL CAR HE PURPOSELY CRASHED INTO THE VEHICLE BARRELING OVER OFFICER HEBERT. HE WAS 36 YEARS OF AGE AND WAS A 10-YEAR VETERAN OF THE BEAUMONT POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THAT OFFICER. ON AN EARLY SUNDAY MORNING LAST MAY ONE OF HOUSTON'S FINEST, OFFICER KEVIN WILL, THE PHOTOGRAPH NEXT TO OFFICER HEBERT, OFFICER KEVIN WILL WAS INVESTIGATING A HIT-AND-RUN ACCIDENT IN HOUSTON. SUDDENLY, A DIFFERENT VEHICLE WAS SPEEDING BY AND BLAZED PAST THE POLICE BARRIERS AT THE ACCIDENT WHERE OFFICER WILL WAS INVESTIGATING. IMMEDIATELY BEFORE BEING STRUCK, OFFICER WILL YELLED AT A WITNESS TO JUMP OUT OF THE WAY, THUS SAVING THAT CITIZEN'S LIFE JUST BEFORE THE OFFICER'S LIFE WAS STOLEN FROM HIM. OFFICER WILL WAS 38 YEARS OF AGE AND HAD BEEN WITH THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ONLY TWO YEARS. HE LEFT BEHIND A PREGNANT WIFE AND TWO STEPCHILDREN. THE DRIVER OF THAT SPEEDING VEHICLE IGNORED ALL THE SAFETY LIGHTS OF POLICE CRUISERS AT THAT ACCIDENT SCENE. HE WAS DRUNK, CHARGED WITH INTOXICATION, MANSLAUGHTER OF A PEACE OFFICER, EVADING ARREST AND POSSESSION OF COCAINE. THE ALLEGED KILLER HAD BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY AND WAS DEPORTED ONCE BUT CAME BACK . SOME OF THEM, LIKE OFFICER HEBERT AND OFFICER WILL NEVER GET TO GO BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. THIS WEEK DURING POLICE WEEK WE HONOR THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES. WE ALSO HONOR THEIR FAMILIES. THOUSANDS OF PEACE OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES HAVE TRAVELED TO WASHINGTON, D.C., THIS WEEK TO RESPECT AND REMEMBER THE FALLEN. NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE FROM, NEW YORK CITY OR BEAUMONT, TEXAS, THEY'RE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON, TO RESPECT THE MEMORY OF THOSE AMAZING SOULS WHO HAVE DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY SOMEWHERE ACROSS AMERICA'S PLAINS. ON MAY 17, 1792, NEW YORK CITY'S DEPUTY SHERIFF ISAAC SMITH BECAME THE FIRST RECORDED POLICE OFFICER TO BE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. SINCE HIS DEATH NEARLY 21,000 PEACE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN KILLED SOMEWHERE IN AMERICA. ALTHOUGH CRIME IS ON THE DECLINE IN THE UNITED STATES, CRIMES AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS ARE ON THE RISE. THERE'S BEEN AN ALARMING 75% INCREASE IN POLICE OFFICER DEATHS SINCE 2008. DURING MY 20 YEARS AS A JUDGE IN TEXAS, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE SOME OF AMERICA'S FINEST, THE PEACE OFFICERS. UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS THAT I HAD KNOWN WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. PEACE OFFICERS ARE OFTEN TOO -- BECOME VICTIMS OF THE CRIMES THEY SEEK TO PREVENT, AND WHEN A PEACE OFFICER PUTS ON THE UNIFORM IN THE MORNING THEY REPRESENT EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD AND RIGHT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY. THEY ARE THE LAST STRAND OF WIRE IN DEFENSE BETWEEN THE LAW AND THE LAWLESS. THEY PROTECT US FROM THOSE WHO LURK IN THE SHADOWS OF CRIME AND CREATE HAVOC IN OUR SOCIETY. PEACE OFFICERS FIGHT THE FORCES OF ANARCHY AND BRING ORDER TO THE RULE OF LAW. THEY DO THIS IN SOME CASES WITH LITTLE OR NO APPRECIATION FROM THE CITIZENS THAT THEY PROTECT. THIS YEARLY TRIBUTE HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., PROVIDES EACH OF US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR FALLEN PEACE OFFICERS LIKE BRIAN HEBERT, LIKE OFFICER KEVIN WILL OF THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN THE NAME OF KEEPING PEACE IN AMERICA, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:06:06 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK HIS TIME. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. BLUMENAUER, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:06:14 AM

    MR. BLUMENAUER

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY THE HOUSE WILL DEBATE THE DEFENSE…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY THE HOUSE WILL DEBATE THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WHILE NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING AMERICA WHILE KEEPING THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM SAFE, THE AUTHORIZATION BEFORE US TODAY WASTES TOO MUCH OF OUR NATION'S PRECIOUS WEALTH AND REPRESENTS YET ANOTHER MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR BADLY NEEDED REFORM. H.R. 4310 UNFORTUNATELY HIGHLIGHTS CONGRESS' INABILITY TO MAKE HARD CHOICES ON DEFENSE SPENDING. IT OPTS FOR AN ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE STRATEGY AND PUTS THE FUNDING OF AN ALREADY BLOATED BUDGET AHEAD OF ANY SEMBLANCE OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. IF PASSED THE AUTHORIZATION WOULD REPRESENT 57% OF OUR TOTAL DISCRETIONARY BUDGET. IT'S CLEAR TO MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE CONGRESS THAT WE CAN NO LONGER SEPARATE NATIONAL SECURITY FROM FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. CONGRESS NEEDS TO GET THAT MESSAGE. OUR CONSTITUENTS CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND. LAST WEEK A POLL SHOWED THAT ON AVERAGE AMERICANS FEEL THAT THE DEFENSE BUDGET SHOULD BE REDUCED BY 18% NEXT YEAR. INSTEAD, THIS BILL WILL INCREASE -- WILL DECREASE SPENDING BY LESS THAN.5% AFTER 13 CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF INCREASE. WHILE BUDGET HAWKS AND MILITARY EXPERTS AGREE WE NEED TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING, THIS YEAR'S AUTHORIZATION PROVIDES $8 BILLION MORE THAN THE CAP FOR THE DEFENSE BUDGET SET BY THE BUDGET CONTROL ACT WHICH BOTH PARTIES SUPPORTED AND ENACTED INTO LAW TO SOLVE THE MANUFACTURED DEBT CEILING CRISIS. MANY SUPPORTING THE BILL WILL RAISE A FALSE CHOICE BETWEEN DEFENDING AMERICA OR REBUILDING AND RENEWING AMERICA, ITS INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR ECONOMY. WE CAN AND WE MUST DO BOTH. SPENDING TOO MUCH FOR THE WRONG PEOPLE TO DO THE WRONG THINGS WILL UNDERMINE THE VERY SECURITY AT HOME WE SEEK TO BUY THROUGH MORE MILITARY SPENDING. CRUMBLING BRIDGES AND ROADS, FAILING SCHOOLS AND A MASSIVE NATIONAL DEBT ALL POSE A GREATER NATIONAL THREAT TO AMERICA'S POWER ABROAD THAN RIGHT SIZED DEFENSE SPENDING. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS. WE HAVE HAD A CASCADE OF PLANS, RANGING FROM THE CATO INSTITUTE TO THE BOWLES-SIMPSON TO THINK TANKS. ALL KEEPING OUR PROMISES TO FUTURE GENERATIONS HERE AT HOME. IN ADDITION TO ENDING THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN MORE QUICKLY, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DECREASE DEFENSE SPENDING. INCREASE DEFICIENCY IN NAVAL DEPLOYMENT CAN REDUCE THE NEED FOR MORE BATTLESHIPS. WE DON'T NEED A GROWING SUPERCARRIER FLEET. THE UNITED STATES' 11 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS ADD UP TO MORE THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINE AND MANY OF THE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS ARE OUR ALLIES. THE CURRENT LEVEL OF INVESTMENT IN OUR NUCLEAR ARSENAL WITH CAPABILITIES THAT CORRESPOND TO NO REAL MILITARY CHALLENGE MAKES NO SENSE AND WASTES HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP EITHER CAN'T OR DOESN'T WANT TO WORK TOWARDS A BALANCED APPROACH TO REDUCING DEFENSE SPENDING. NOW, THIS WAS ILRATED BY THE RESPONSE TO AN AMENDMENT I OFFERED IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE LAST WEEK. INSTEAD OF MAKING TOUGH CHOICES ON THE DEFENSE SPENDING, OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES DECIDED TO GIVE THE PENTAGON EVEN MORE THAN THEY ASKED FOR AND PROVIDE THEM THIS FUNDING IN PART BY ELIMINATING FOOD STAMP BENEFITS FOR TWO MILLION PEOPLE, REDUCING BENEFITS FOR 44 MILLION MORE, CURTAILING MEALS ON WHEELS AND ELIMINATING SCHOOL LUNCHES FOR 280,000 CHILDREN. THE LEVEL OF SPENDING IN TODAY'S DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION IS ABSURD, BUT MORE SHOCKING IS WHAT AMERICANS ARE BEING FORCED TO GIVE UP TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE PENTAGON AT THIS LEVEL. CONGRESS NEEDS TO SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND ABILITY TO MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES. THAT'S WHY I AM LEADING ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES LEE AND FRANK AN AMENDMENT TO CUT DEFENSE SPENDING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BY THE $8 BILLION THAT WOULD ALIGN THE BILL WITH THE LEVEL ALREADY AUTHORIZED AND WRITTEN INTO LAW LAST FALL. WE CAN AND SHOULD GO FURTHER, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST MOST SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE THAT CONGRESS OUGHT TO PLAY BY THE RULES WE CREATED, NOT SIDESTEPPING THEM AT THE EXPENSE OF STRUGGLING FAMILIES, DISADVANTAGED SCHOOLCHILDREN AND OUR SENIORS. UNLESS WE'RE ABLE TO FIX THIS BILL, I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO.

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  • 10:11:23 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS, MR. CRAWFORD, FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR.

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  • 10:11:29 AM

    MR. CRAWFORD

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO HONOR THE LIVES OF TWO BRAVE MEN WHO DIED…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO HONOR THE LIVES OF TWO BRAVE MEN WHO DIED SERVING THEIR NATION. EXPLOSIVE ORDINANCE TECHNICIANS SERVE THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF DISARMING EXPLOSIVE DEFENSES, I.E.D.'S IN WAR ZONES AND HERE AT HOME. AS A FORMER TECH MYSELF, I KNOW THE DANGER THESE SOLDIERS FACE AND TODAY HONOR THEIR ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. NAVAL LIEUTENANT CHRISTOPHER MOSCOE TRAINED FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. HE WAS ASSIGNED TO MOBILE UNIT THREE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS AND DURING THAT TIME AMONG OTHER MISSIONS HE SUPPORTED HUMANITARIAN OPERATIONS FOLLOWING THE EARTHQUAKE IN HAITI. HE WAS KILLED IN I.E.D. BLAST IN AFGHANISTAN ON APRIL 26 OF THIS YEAR. DIRECTLY SUPPORTING NAVY AND ARMY SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES. HE HE AND HIS WIFE CALLED SAN DIEGO HOME. THE LIEUTENANT WAS DESCRIBED AS PERSONABLE AND OUTSTANDING LEADER WHO WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO SUPPORT HIS MEN. THEY SAY HE WAS A KIND AND GENTLE PERSON. HE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED BY THE E.O.D. FAMILY. 25-YEAR-OLD MARINE SERGEANT WAS KILLED BY GUNSHOT WOUNDS BY A PERSON WEARING AN AFGHAN UNIFORM IN THE HELMAND PROVINCE OF AFGHANISTAN. HE DEPLOYED TO IRAQ IN 2007 AND WAS ON HIS SECOND COMBAT DEPROIMENT. -- DEPLOYMENT. SERGEANT HULING'S MOTHER SAID HE WAS BRAVE AND SELFLESS AND GAVE HIS LIFE TO HIS COUNTRY SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD ENJOY THE FREEDOM WE LIVE NOW. SERGEANT HULING IS SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE, A BROTHER AND SISTER. MR. SPEAKER, NAVAL LIEUTENANT CHRISTOPHER MOSKOL AND LIEUTENANT HULING DIED DEFENDING THE FREEDOMS THAT SO MANY TAKE FOR GRANTED. I DIDN'T KNOW THESE TWO MEN BUT THEY WERE SONS, BROTHERS, HUSBANDS AND FRIENDS. BECAUSE THEY SERVED AMERICA AND THE WORLD ARE SAFER AND MORE FREE. OUR FAMILIES ARE IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND I ASK WE REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE THEY MADE. EXPLOSIVE DISPOSAL TECHNICIANS PROTECT OUR SERVICE MEMBERS FROM I.E.D. THREATS OVERSEAS AND IN HOMELAND MISSIONS. THE E.O.D. COMMUNITY DESERVES THE RESPECT AND FULL RESOURCES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO CONTINUE THEIR LIFE-SAVING MISSION. GOD BLESS THE MEMORY OF LIEUTENANT MOSKO AND SERGEANT HULING AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:13:57 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:14:05 AM

    MR. KUCINICH

    THE GENTLEMAN HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING.

  • 10:18:11 AM

    MR. KUCINICH

    IRAN AND SET OFF WORLD WAR 3.

  • 10:19:23 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. SHIMKUS, FOR…

    THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. SHIMKUS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:19:28 AM

    MR. SHIMKUS

    I REQUEST UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK…

    I REQUEST UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I COME BACK TO THE FLOOR AS I HAVE ALMOST WEEKLY SINCE THIS CONGRESS TO TALK ABOUT NUCLEAR WASTE. AND IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE TO FOLLOW MY FRIEND FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, BECAUSE WE ARE A NUCLEARIZED COUNTRY, WE DO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS. A LOT OF OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS WAS DEVELOPED WAY FROM WORLD WAR II AND GUESS WHERE THE WASTE STILL IS FROM WORLD WAR II? STILL BURIED IN SIGH LOWS -- SILOS UNDER THE GROUND IN HANFORD, WASHINGTON. THAT'S A LEGACY OF 50 YEARS OF NUCLEAR WASTE WE STILL HAVE YET TO ADDRESS, NOT INCLUDING THE NUCLEAR WASTE FOR FUEL WHICH IS WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. I'M GOING TO THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND STATE OF INDIANA. MICHIGAN HAS FIVE NUCLEAR REACTORS. THEY ARE ALL ON THE GREAT LAKES. EITHER LAKE MICHIGAN OR LAKE SUPERIOR, I THINK. AND THE WASTE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THESE GREAT LAKES. SO WE WANT TO DO A COMPARISON, CONTRAST AS I DO EVERY WEEK BASED UPON A REGION OF THE COUNTRY AND COMPARE WHERE THE NUCLEAR WASTE IS IN MICHIGAN TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE UNDER FEDERAL LAW, THE 1982 NUCLEAR WASTE POLICY ACT, AND THE ADJOINING AMENDMENTS PASSED IN 1987, THAT SAYS WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE OUR HIGH-LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE AND PUT IT IN ONE SINGLE REPOSITORY THAT UNDERMEAT A MOUNTAIN IN A DESERT. AND THAT PLACE IS YUCCA MOUNTAIN. SO LET'S COMPARE THE TWO LOCATIONS. I'M PICKING THE COOK NUCLEAR GENERATING STATION IN MICHIGAN COMPARING IT TO YUCCA MOUNTAIN. HOW MUCH NUCLEAR WASTE DO WE HAVE AT YUCCA MOUNTAIN? ZERO. HOW MANY DO -- HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE AT COOK? WE HAVE 1,433 METRIC TONS OF URANIUM, THIS IS A WASTE, AT JUST ONE NUCLEAR FACILITY AT COOK. WHERE IS THE WASTE STORED? AT YUCCA IT WOULD BE 1,000 FEET UNDERGROUND. WHERE IS NUCLEAR WASTE STORED AT COOK? WELL, IT'S STORED ABOVE GROUND IN POOLS AND IN CASKS. COMPARED TO -- HOW IS IT COMPARED TO THE GROUND WATER ISSUE? YUCCA MOUNTAIN, IT WOULD BE 1,000 FEET ABOVE THE WATER TABLE. AS WE KNOW AT COOK IT'S 19 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND WATER TABLE. -- GROUND WATER TABLE. YUCCA MOUNTAIN IS 100 MILES FROM THE ONLY BODY OF WATER YOU FIND IN THE DESERT, ENTHAT'S THE COLORADO RIVER. THAT'S 100 MILES AWAY. HOW FAR IS THE NUCLEAR WASTE AT COOK? YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE. IT IS NEXT TO LAKE MICHIGAN. SO, IN A COMPARISON-CONTRAST IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT YUCCA COULD BE A SAFER PLACE TO HUT HIGH-LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE THAN COOK GENERATING STATION IN MICHIGAN. SO WHAT HAVE THE U.S. SENATORS DONE FROM THE SURROUNDING STATES ON THIS POSITION? SHOULD THEY HAVE NUCLEAR WASTE IN THEIR STATE OR SHOULD THEY NOT? SENATOR COATS IS SUPPORTIVE OF YUCCA MOUNTAIN. SENATOR LUGAR SUPPORTIVE OF YUCCA MOUNTAIN. I HAVE QUOTES HERE THAT AFFIRM THAT. SENATOR LEVIN HAS VOTED FOR YUCCA MOUNTAIN AND SUPPORTS THAT. AND OUR FRIEND, MY FORMER CLASSMATE HERE IN THE CHAMBER, AND SHE IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, DEBI STABENOW, HAS NOT SUPPORTED YUCCA MOUNTAIN. AND SO PART OF THE -- WHAT I'M COMING DOWN TO THE FLOOR TO JUST HELP PAINT THE PICTURE THERE IS NUCLEAR WASTE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, 104 DIFFERENT REACTORS, NOT INCLUDING OUR DEFENSE WASTE, AND IT'S STORED ALL OVER THE PLACE. WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION TO PUT THE NUCLEAR WASTE IN? I HAVE BEEN DOING A TALLY OF U.S. SENATORS AND WE FINALLY GOT OVER THE 50 SENATOR MARK BECAUSE OF THE SENATE RULES, YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE FILIBUSTER, THAT'S 60 VOTES, BUT IT'S INTERESTING NOW BASED UPON THE INFORMATION, PAST INFORMATION FROM VOTES OR PUBLIC STATEMENTS, WE HAVE 54 U.S. SENATORS WHO SAY WE OUGHT TO HAVE YUCCA MOUNTAIN AS OUR SINGLE REPOSITORY. WE HAVE 19 THAT WE REALLY HAVE NO RECORD OF A STATEMENT OR A VOTE. AND THEN WE HAVE 21 THAT HAVE EITHER AS A FORMER HOUSE MEMBER OR PUBLIC STATEMENT SAID NO. WE DON'T THINK YUCCA MOUNTAIN IS THE PLACE FOR NUCLEAR WASTE TO GO. AND WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE STATES TO GO AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WE GET TO A 60-VOTE POSITION TO MAKE THE CLAIM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT THESE SENATORS SHOULD REALLY DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE OF HIGH-LEVEL NUCLEAR WASTE, NOT JUST THE SPENT FUEL, BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE DEFENSE WASTE IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS WAS A PROMISE MADE TO THE RATE PAYORS OF STATES THAT HAVE NUCLEAR POWER, THE GOVERNMENT SAID WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE YOU EXTRA FOR YOUR ELECTRICITY, WE'LL TAKE YOUR MONEY, AND WE'LL BUILD A LONG-RANGE GEOLOGICAL REPOSITORY FOR NUCLEAR WASTE, THAT'S YUCCA MOUNTAIN. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 10:24:54 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND, MR. CICILLINE.

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  • 10:25:14 AM

    MR. CICILLINE

    YESTERDAY THIS CHAMBER NARROWLY PASSED A BILL ENTITLED THE VIOLENCE…

    YESTERDAY THIS CHAMBER NARROWLY PASSED A BILL ENTITLED THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN RE-AUTHORIZATION ACT. BUT ALTHOUGH THE BILL WE VOTED ON SHARED ITS NAME WITH LANDMARK LEGISLATION THAT THIS CHAMBER PASSED IN 1994 TO DETER CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN, IT FAILED TO ADVANCE THE IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS THAT SHOULD BE AFFORDED TO ALL VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, WORK TOGETHER TO PASS A STRONG BIPARTISAN RE-AUTHORIZATION OF THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT. YET RATHER THAN CARRYING ON THE IMPORTANT TRADITION OF WORKING IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION TO STRENGTHEN AND RE-AUTHORIZE THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT HERE IN THE HOUSE, REPUBLICANS CRAFTED A PARTISAN BILL THAT FAILED TO INCLUDE MANY OF THE IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS ENACTED BY THE SENATE. IN FACT, THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION WOULD UNDERMINE VITAL PROTECTIONS AND SERVICES FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL LEFT OUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE SENATE HAD PASSED, INCLUDING PROTECTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT WOMEN, COLLEGE STUDENTS, AND LGBT AMERICANS. A BIPARTISAN COALITION OF 13 WOMEN SENATORS, INCLUDING REPUBLICAN SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI, SIGNED A LETTER TO SPEAKER BOEHNER YESTERDAY URGING THAT HE CALL A VOTE ON THE STRONG BIPARTISAN SENATE-PASSED BILL THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS FOR ALL VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE, SAYING, AND I QUOTE, WE SHOULD NOT LET POLITICS PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH VICTIMS OF ABUSE TO HELP AND WHICH TO IGNORE. A BILL BY THE WAY THAT EVERY SINGLE WOMAN IN THE SENATE, REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, VOTED FOR. RE-AUTHORIZING IMPORTANT PROVISIONS TO HELP ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE ACROSS OUR COUNTRY SHOULD BE ROUTINE, EVEN IN WASHINGTON, D.C. BUT ONCE AGAIN HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE ALLOWED A FAR RIGHT IDEOLOGY WHO INTERFERE WITH THE COMMONSENSE APPROACH TO PROTECTING WOMEN AND FAMILIES FROM VIOLENCE. WOMEN'S LIVES ARE TOO IMPORTANT FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF CONGRESSIONAL BRINKSMANSHIP. LAST YEAR IN MY HOME STATE OF RHODE ISLAND MORE THAN 13,000 HOTLINE CALLS WERE ANSWERED BY THE RHODE ISLAND COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. REPUBLICANS IN THIS CHAMBER ARE WRONG TO RELEGATE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THESE WOMEN BEHIND AN EXTREME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CONTINUE THEIR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE BIPARTISAN SENATE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD PROVIDE EFFECTIVE PROTECTIONS FOR ALL VICTIMS OF SEXUAL OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE MUST KEEP THE PRESSURE ON FOR PASSAGE OF THE SENATE BIPARTISAN BILL. AMERICA'S WOMEN AND OUR FAMILIES DESERVE NO LESS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:28:01 AM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. GRIFFITH, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 10:28:06 AM

    MR. GRIFFITH

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY, LATER TODAY WE WILL DEBATE THE NATIONAL…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY, LATER TODAY WE WILL DEBATE THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT. JUST YESTERDAY EVENING SECTION 1021 OF LAST YEAR'S BILL WAS GIVEN AN INJUNCTION BY U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE KATHERINE FOREST WHEN SHE STATED IN THE FACE OF WHAT COULD BE INDETERMINATE MILITARY DETENTION DUE PROCESS REQUIRES MORE. AS WE DEBATE THIS BILL, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT ON SEVERAL AMENDMENTS WHICH WILL MAKE DUE PROCESS A KEY PART OF THIS BILL AND ELIMINATE THE CONCERNS THAT THE JUDGE HAD WHEN GRANTING THAT PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. I TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO REMIND US OF SOME HISTORY. DATELINE, PARIS, DECEMBER 20, 1787, IN A LETTER TO JAMES MADISON THOMAS JEFFERSON WROTE, IN REGARD TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, I WILL TELL YOU NOW WHAT I DO NOT LIKE. FIRST, THE OMISSION OF A BILL OF RIGHTS PROVIDING CLEARLY AND WITHOUT AID OF SOFTISM FOR FREEDOM OF RELIGION, FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, PROTECTION AGAINST STANDING ARMIES, RESTRICTION OF MONOPOLIES, ETERNAL AND UNREMITTING FORCE OF THE HABEAS CORPUS LAWS, AND TRIALS BY JURY IN ALL MATTERS OF FACT, TRIAL BY THE LAWS OF THE LAND, AND NOT BY THE LAWS OF NATIONS. TO SAY AS MR. WILLIAMS -- WILSON DOES THAT A BILL OF RIGHTS WAS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE ALL IS RESERVED IN THE CASE OF THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS NOT GIVEN, WHILE IN PARTICULAR ONES ALL IS GIVEN WHICH IS NOT RESERVED, MIGHT DO FOR THE AUDIENCE WHICH IT WAS ADDRESSED, THE REVERSE OF WHICH MIGHT AS WELL ALSO BE SAID. AND IT IS OPPOSED BY STRONG INFRANCES FROM THE BODY OF THE INSTRUMENT AS WELL AS FROM THE OMISSION OF THE CALLS OF OUR PRESENT CONFEDERATION, THAT WOULD BE THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, WHICH HAD MADE THE RESERVATION IN EXPRESS TERMS, IT WAS HARD TO CONCLUDE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A WANT OF UNIFORMITY AMONG THE STATES AS TO THE CASES TRYABLE BY JURY BECAUSE SOME HAVE BEEN SO INCAUTIOUS AS TO DISPENSE WITH THIS MODE OF TRIAL IN CERTAIN CASES, THEREFORE, THE MORE PRUDENT STATE SHALL BE REDUCED TO THE SAME LEVEL OF CALAMITY. . IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WISE TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY. THIS SACRED PALLADIUM OF LIBERTY, THOSE WHO HAVE WANDERED SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO IT AND ESTABLISHED GENERAL RIGHT RATHER THAN GENERAL WRONG. IT GOES ON FOR ALL THE ILLS WHICH MAY BE ESTABLISHED, I HAVE A RIGHT TO NOTHING WHICH ANOTHER HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY. AND HE GOES ON, LET ME ADD THAT A BILL OF RIGHTS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO AGAINST EVERY GOVERNMENT ON EARTH, GENERAL OR PARTICULAR, AND WHAT NO JUST GOVERNMENT SHOULD REFUSE OR REST ON INFERENCE, THOSE ON THE DEBATE OF THE NDAA AND THE SIMILAR LANGUAGE THIS YEAR, THAT IT IS INFERED THAT THOSE RIGHTS ARE NOT GIVEN AWAY. JEFFERSON WAS NOT WILLING TO ALLOW US TO REST ON THE RIGHTS OF INFERENCE, NOR SHOULD WE IN THIS CONGRESS ALSO NOT BE WILLING TO REST ON THE RIGHTS OF INFERENCE AND WHEN PARTICULARLY YOU HAVE LANGUAGE SUCH AS THIS COMING OUT OF THE COURT YESTERDAY EVENING, THIS COURT FINDS THE PLAINTIFFS AS DISCUSSED BELOW HAVE REASONABLE FEAR OF FUTURE GOVERNMENT ACTION SUFFICIENT TO CONFER STANDING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MANY OF YOU CANNOT SEE IT BUT BEHIND ME HERE IN THE DESK IS THE WORD LIBERTY STANDS, IT IS WRITTEN IN, IT WAS NOT LEFT TO INFERENCE. IT'S RIGHT HERE FOR US TO LOOK AT EVERY DAY, AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AS LONG AS I SERVE IN CONGRESS, I WILL STAND UP FOR LIBERTY AND MAKE SURE THAT NO CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES HAS THEIR DUE PROCESS REMOVED. I WILL SUPPORT THE AMASH AMENDMENT, THE SMITH AMENDMENT AND THE GOODLATTE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE YOU DO THE SAME. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY.

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    MR. QUIGLEY

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY BECAUSE OUR NATION…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY BECAUSE OUR NATION IS AT A CROSSROADS. WE ARE EMERGING FROM A DEEP RECESSION, FACING A DEFICIT TOPPING $1 TRILLION FOR THE FOURTH STRAIGHT YEAR. AND WHILE WE ALL AGREE THAT WE MUST REDUCE OUR DEFICIT, THE REAL QUESTION, OF COURSE, IS HOW. HOW DO WE DECIDE TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT WILL NOT ONLY DEFINE OUR BUDGET, IT WILL DEFINE WHO WE ARE AS A NATION. WE'LL BE A NATION THAT CUTS VITAL PROGRAMS LIKE FOOD AND MEDICAID IN ORDER TO NOT ONLY PRESERVE BUT GROW AN OUTSIZED DEFENSE BUDGET, OR WILL WE CHOOSE A MIDDLE GROUND THAT IS BALANCED, BIPARTISAN, BIG AND LEAVES NOTHING OFF THE TABLE INCLUDING DEFENSE? SADLY, THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT BEFORE US OFFERS NO MIDDLE GROUND AND IS NOT BIPARTISAN. IT IS NOT BALANCED. AT TIMES WHEN WE ARE BEING ASKED TO CUT EDUCATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH, THIS DEFENSE BILL INCREASES SPENDING $4 BILLION OVER THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. LET ME BE CLEAR, WE ALL WANT TO CUT SPENDING. IN FACT, I MYSELF HAVE INTRODUCED A BIPARTISAN BUDGET THAT MIRRORED THE SIMPSON-BOWLES PLAN AND WOULD HAVE REDUCED THE DEFICIT WITH 2/3 CUTS AND 1/3 REVENUE. BUT THE KEY TO DEVELOPING A BIPARTISAN PRAN IS TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE, INCLUDING DEFENSE. MILITARY SPENDING HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS AND NOW COMPROMISES CLOSE TO 20% OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET. WE SPEND ALMOST FOUR TIMES MORE ON DEFENSE THAN CHINA AND MORE THAN THE NEXT 10 LARGEST MILITARY SPENDERS COMBINED. WE SPEND $500 MILLION A YEAR ON MILITARY BANDS ALONE. BUT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT WE SPEND, IT'S ALSO HOW WE SPEND. FORMER SECRETARY DEFENSE GATES CALLED FOR BILLIONS IN CUTS SAYING, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN -- WHAT WE HAD BEEN A CULTURE OF ENDLESS MONEY AT D.O.D. MUST BECOME A CULTURE OF SAVINGS AND RESTRAINT. ADMIRAL MIKE MULLEN ONCE CALLED OUR DEBT THE GREATEST THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. THE SUSTAINABLE DEFENSE TASK FORCE AND A BIPARTISAN POLICY CENTER HAVE ALSO OUTLINED CLOSE TO $1 TRILLION IN DEFENSE CUTS THAT CAN STILL KEEP US SAFE. BUT THIS COULD HE HAVE BUDGET DOESN'T REFLECT THE EXPERTISE OF OUR MILITARY -- BUT THIS DEFENSE BUDGET DOESN'T REFLECT THE EXPERT OF OUR MILITARY. IT INCLUDES A NEW EAST COAST MISSILE INTERCEPTOR THE PENTAGON DOESN'T WANT, AND IT ROLLS BACK EFFORTS BY THE D.O.D. TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT BECAUSE THE COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND KNOW THAT LIVES ARE LOST TRANSPORTING FUEL TO TROOPS ABROAD. IT IGNORES MILITARY EXPERTS BY FUNDING THE DEADLY D-22 OS PRIX WHICH IS 186% OVER BUDGET. IT IS NOT SAFE TO FLY IN EXTREME HEAT OR EXCESSIVE SAND, HAS KILLED 36 SERVICE MEMBERS AND CAN BE REPLACED WITH CHEAPER HELICOPTERS. IT ALSO IGNORES EXPERTS SUCH AS HENRY KISSINGER WHO PROMOTE DRASTICALLY REDUCING OUR NUCLEAR STOCKPILE BY INCLUDING A HUGE FUNDING INCREASE FOR NUCLEAR UPGRADES. FINALLY, PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT IGNORES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO WANT A SMALLER MILITARY FOOTPRINT AND WANT OUR TROOPS HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN. ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT RELEASED AT THE SIMPSON CENTER, THEY SUPPORT CUTTING THE DEFENSE BUDGET BY 18%. AND ACCORDING TO THE LATEST OPINION POLL, ONE IN 10 AMERICANS OPPOSE THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. YET, THIS DEFENSE BILL INCLUDES LANGUAGE AIMED AT SLOWING DOWN THE WITHDRAWAL OF U.S. TROOPS. WE AREN'T FIGHTING THE COLD WAR ANY MORE. YET, THIS BUMENT INCLUDES TO INVEST BILLIONS IN NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THOUSANDS OF TROOPS STATIONED IN EUROPE AND ASIA. TODAY, OUR GREATEST THREAT IS A GLOBAL NETWORK OF EXTREMISTS WHO FIND SAFE HAVEN AND UNGOVERNED SPACES ACROSS THE WORLD. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 45 TERRORIST ATTACKS PLOTTED AGAINST THE U.S. SINCE 9/11. AND EACH ONE OF THEM WAS FOILED, NOT BY OUR MASS GROUND FORCES IN AFGHANISTAN, BUT THROUGH INTELLIGENCE, POLICING AND CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT. ACCORDING TO TERRORISM EXPERT ERIC DOLL OF THE NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL, WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC ATTACKS AND SECURING THE HOMELAND, WHAT WORKS IS REALLY GOOD OLD-FASHIONED POLICING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, TIPS FROM THE PUBLIC AND POLICE INFORMANTS. OUR ENEMY TODAY MUST BE FOUGHT WITH LESS COSTLY POLICING, INTELLIGENCE GATHERING AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS, NOT MULTIBILLION DOLLAR TANKS AND NUKES. THE REAL RAMIFICATION OF OVERSPENDING ON DEFENSE IS NOT SIMPLY THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY UNNEEDED NUKES OR PLANES BUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SUPPORT VITAL DOMESTIC INVESTMENTS SUCH AS HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO REMAIN A SUPERPOWER. MILITARY POWER IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT SPENDING MORE THAN OUR ADVERSARIES. REAL MILITARY POWER, ARGUES A MCCAIN ADVISOR, IS PREMISED ON THE SOLVENCY OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND THE VIBRANCY OF THE U.S. ECONOMY. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT VIBE RANCERY, WE MUST GET OUR FISCAL HOUSE -- VIBRANCY, WE MUST GET OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER AND MAKE CUTS WHERE NECESSARY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. MCKINLEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR.

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    MR. MCKINLEY

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. EVERY YEAR IN MAY WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL NURSES…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. EVERY YEAR IN MAY WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL NURSES WORK. OFTEN DESCRIBED AS AN ART AND A SCIENCE, NURSING IS A PROFESSION THAT EMBRACES DEDICATED PEOPLE WITH VARIED INTERESTS, STRENGTHS AND PASSIONS BECAUSE OF THE MANY OPPORTUNITIES THE PROFESSION OFFERS. AS A HUSBAND OF A CRITICAL CARE NURSE, I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE LIVES THEY TOUCH EACH AND EVERY DAY. THEY WORK IN EMERGENCY ROOMS, SCHOOL-BASED CLINICS, HOSPITALS AND HOMELESS SHELTERS, JUST TO NAME A FEW. THEY HAVE MANY ROLES FROM STAFF NURSES TO EDUCATORS TO NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND NURSE RESEARCHERS AND SERVE ALL OF THEM WITH A PASSION FOR THE PROFESSION AND WITH A STRONG COMMITMENT TO PATIENT SECURITY AND SAFETY. NATIONAL NURSES WEEK OCCURS EACH YEAR IN MAY. SURROUNDING FLORENCE NIGHTEN GAEL'S BIRTHDAY. OUR NURSES STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE IN ALL THEY D DO. THEY PROVIDE PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILY WITH SKILLED COMPASSIONATE CARE AND HELP TO NAVIGATE A VERY COMPLEX AND OFTENTIMES OVERWHELMING HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, TO PROVIDE SAFE PASSAGE FOR THE PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. REGARDLESS OF THEIR ROLE OR TITLE, NURSES EDUCATE, COUNSEL, ADVOCATE AND LEAD. THESE MEN AND WOMEN WORK TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO COUNTLESS PATIENTS, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES WHO BENEFIT FROM NURSES' DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM. THIS MONTH IS A TIME TO REFLECT ON THE GOODALL NURSES DO. IT'S TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENCES OUR NURSES MAKE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME. THANK YOU.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. SCHRADER, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. SCHRADER

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE TO DISCUSS AN IMPORTANT…

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I RISE TO DISCUSS AN IMPORTANT TIMELY ISSUE AFFECTING THE HORSES OF OUR COUNTRY. IT'S CALLED SOARING. SOARING IS THE ACT OF DELIBERATELY CAUSING PAIN TO EXACERBATE THE LEGS. DESPITE BEING ILLEGAL FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS, IS STILL FAR TOO OFTEN BY MANY OWNERS AND TRAINERS TO WIN IN THE SHOW RING. TODAY I HOPE THAT I CAN PERSUADE YOU, MY FELLOW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, TO TAKE INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE, TO OPPOSE THIS CRUEL AND ILLEGAL PRACTICE AND TO INCREASE THE SUPPORT FOR THE USDA'S HORSE PROTECTION PROGRAM. HORSES ARE SOARED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS. COST OF MATERIALS SUCH AS KEROSENE OR MUSTARD OIL ARE APPLIED TO THE LOWER LEG. THIS MAKES THE HORSE'S LEG SENSITIVE SO UNCERTAIN CRUEL DEVICES SUCH AS CHAINS ARE PLACED AGAINST IT CAUSES SEVERE PAIN, CAUSING THE HORSE TO LIFT ITS LEG HIGH AND EXAGGERATING THE GAIT. AND ALSO TRIMMING THE HOOF EXCESSIVELY, INSERTING DEVICES BETWEEN THE SHOE PADS AND THE SOLE OF THE HORSE AND FRANKLY IMPROPER SHOEING TECHNIQUES. NO MATTER THE TECHNIQUE, ITS PURPOSE IS TO CAUSE THE HORSE PAIN SO IT LIFTS ITS LEG HIGHER AND FASTER. WHILE TRAINING MAY -- MANY HORSES RECOVER FROM THAT HARM, OTHERS SUFFER IRREVIRSIBLE HOOF DAMAGE. THE MENTAL DAMAGE DONE TO THE HORSE CAN MAKE ITS REHABILITATION DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE. SOARING IS SO EGREGIOUS IT'S BEEN ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 40 YEARS. THE HORSE PROTECTION ACT WAS PASSED IN 1970. SO WHY, 40 YEARS LATER, ARE WE STILL HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION? THE PROBLEM LIES WITHIN THE CULTURE OF SOME OF THOSE IN THE WALKING HORSE INDUSTRY WHERE UNETHICAL TRAINERS, UNETHICAL OWNERS NOT ONLY CONTINUE THIS PRACTICE BUT USE TRICKS TO DECEIVE DETECTION. SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL GAINS COME FROM WINNING HORSE SHOWS AND THIS MAKES SOARING APPEALING TO MANY UNSCRUPULOUS OWNERS AND TRAINERS. IT IS A SHORTCUT THAT OVERSHADOWS THE BALANCE AND COLLECTION SEEN IN THE BEAUTIFUL NATURAL MOVEMENT OF HORSES THAT PERFORM TRACK AND GATES. THESE GATES CAN BE ACHIEVED WITHOUT SOARING BY INVESTING PROPER TIME, TRAINING AND CONDITIONING ON THE HORSE. THE HORSE PROTECTION PROGRAM AT USDA SERVES AS A REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT FOR THE HORSE PROTECTION ACT. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, USDA INSPECTORS ONLY ATTEND A SMALL FRACTION OF THE SHOWS. IN 2011, USDA DOCUMENTED 587 VIOLATIONS OF THE ACT WHILE ATTENDING ONLY 62 OF THE 600 TO 700 SHOWS HELD THAT YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 2012 WAS THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE HORSE PROTECTION PROGRAM THAT IT ACTUALLY RECEIVED MORE THAN $500,000 IN FUNDING. IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, BARNEY DAVIS, A TRAINER, WAS CONVICTED OF SOARING AND SENTENCED TO A YEAR IN PRISON AND FINED $500,000. IN MARCH, JACKIE MCCONNELL AND THREE OF HIS ASSOCIATES WERE CHARGED WITH 52 COUNTS OF VIOLATING THE HORSE PROTECTION ACT. THESE RECENT CHARGES, INCLUDING THE FIRST TWO CONVICTIONS IN TWO DECADES UNDER THE U.S. HORSE PROTECTION ACT HAVE BROUGHT INCREASED ATTENTION THIS HORRIBLE ABUSE. THESE INDICTMENTS AND PROSECUTIONS ARE LONG OVERDUE AND APPLAUD U.S. ATTORNEYS AND USDA CIVIL SERVANTS WHO COURAGEOUSLY WORK TO END THIS PRACTICE. BUT ADEQUATELY FUNDING THE HORSE PROTECTION PROGRAM HELPS TO REDUCE THE PREVENTION OF THIS PRACTICE. IT IS SERIOUS THAT THE HORSE PROTECTION FUND BE ADEQUATELY FUNDED AND END THIS CRUEL PRACTICE. FINANCIAL BACKING MUST BE SUPPORTED, NOT HAMPERED BY THIS CONGRESS. THE AMERICAN VETERINARIAN ASSOCIATION CONDEMNED THIS FOR OVER 40 YEARS. I CALL FOR A STOP TO THIS HEINOUS ABUSE OF AMERICA'S HORSES. WE IN CONGRESS NEED TO STAND UP AS WELL, SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS EGREGIOUS FORM OF ANIMAL CRUELTY. IT IS TIME FOR SOARING TO END. AND I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. NOEM

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE TO MARK A MAJOR MILESTONE FOR AN…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE TO MARK A MAJOR MILESTONE FOR AN IMPORTANT INSTALLATION IN THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA. THIS YEAR IS THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO STAND HERE AND HONOR THE THOUSANDS OF AIRMEN WHO HAVE BEEN EXTENSIONED AT ELLSWORTH HERE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK EVERY SINGLE MAN AND WOMAN WHO HAS SERVED OUR NATION AND THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH DAKOTA AT THIS BASE. ELLSWORTH HAS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND OUR NATION'S MILITARY SINCE WORLD WAR II. THE ATTACK OF PERIL HARBOR SENT OUR COUNTRY INTO ONE OF THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE WARS THAT THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN. OUR COUNTRY NEEDED A LARGE AND IMMEDIATE FORCE TO FIGHT A TWO-FRONT WAR, ONE IN THE PACIFIC THEATER AND ANOTHER ONE IN EUROPE. THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN RUSHED INTO THE MILITARY AND IN RESPONSE OUR NATION BUILT MANY NEW BASES TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWING NUMBER OF SOLDIERS. IN 1942, A SMALL ARMY BASE WAS ESTABLISHED NEAR RAPID CITY, OUTSIDE OF -- AND IT IS TO TRAIN THE B-17 FLYING FORTRESS. LATER IN THE YEAR THE BASE TRAINED AND DEPLOYED B-27 FORTRESS CREWS WHICH WERE INSTRUMENTAL ON THE EASTERN FRONT. DURING WORLD WAR II THE BASE WAS SO SUCCESSFUL IT WAS CHANGED TO PERMANENT STATUS. YET, SADLY, A TRAGEDY STRUCK. WHILE RETURNING FROM A TRAINING MISSION, A PEACEMAKER AIRCRAFT CRARNED IN NEWFOUNDLAND. LATER THAT YEAR PRESIDENT EISENHOWER CAME TO SOUTH DAKOTA AND DEDICATED THE BASE, RENAMING IT AFTER RICHARD ELLSWORTH, WHO PERISHED IN THE CRASH. LATER, EVER SINCE THEN, THE BASE HAS BEEN KEPT THE NAME ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE. ELLSWORTH CONTINUED TO PROVE ITSELF DURING AN ENDEARING ASSET DURING THE COLD WAR. DURING THE FIRST EVENT OF THE COLD WAR, B-29 BOMBERS FROM ELLSWORTH WERE SENT TO HELP THE BERLIN AIRLIFT, AND AS THE COLD WAR PROGRESS, SO DID THE CAPABILITIES OF ELLSWORTH. THE BASE ALSO BECAME A HUB OF MISSILE ACTIVITY, TRANSPORTING AND STORING THE TITAN AND MINUTEMEN MISSILES. WITHOUT A DOUBT, ELLSWORTH WAS A CRUCIAL PLAYER IN KEEPING PEACE DURING A VERY UNEASING TIME IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY. . IT IS THE HOME OF THE 28TH BOMB WING, A SHINING EXAMPLE OF RESOURCEFULNESS, THE AIRCRAFT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR LOW ALTITUDE NUCLEAR PAYLOADS, AS THE COLD WAR ENDED AND THE DEMAND FOR NUCLEAR CAPABILITY AIRCRAFT DECLINED, THE AIR FORCE MODIFIED THE AIRCRAFT FOR LONG-RANGE CONVENTIONAL BOMBING RUNS. IT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE WORKHORSE OF OPERATIONS IN AFGHANISTAN. AND MOST RECENTLY B-1'S FROM ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE, WERE USED IN OPERATION ODYSSEY DAWN IN LIBYA. THE B-1 HAS TRULY BECOME THE BACKBONE OF OUR LONG-RANGE BOMBING FORCE. IN FACT, EARLIER THIS YEAR THE B-1 COMPLETED ITS 10,000TH COMBAT MISSION. IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE MILESTONE FOR ANY PIECE OF WEAPONRY. MOREOVER, THEY SELECTED ELLSWORTH TO BE THE HOME OF ONE TO ONE OF OVERWHELM TWO BASES THAT HAVE CONTROL CAPABILITY OF HIGH-CRAFT AIRCRAFT. IT'S A AT THE TIMEMENT TO THE RELEVANCE OF THE BASE AS A PART OF OUR DEFENSE STRATEGY. THEY HAVE BECOME AN INTEGRAL PART OF SOUTH DAKOTA'S ECONOMY. IN 2010 THE BASE ESTIMATED IT SUPPORTS OVER 1,500 JOBS IN WESTERN SOUTH DAKOTA. THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE THOUSANDS OF ACTIVE AIR MEN AND WOMEN. IT'S ALSO HOME TO THE AIR FORCE FINANCIAL SERVICES CENTER. IT'S WITHOUT A DOUBT IN AN ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT KEEPS SOUTH DAKOTA THAT RIVING AND VIBRANT. WHEN I THINK WHAT MAKES IT SIGNIFICANT, I THINK BEYOND THE AIRCRAFT AND THE HISTORICAL AND ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE THE BASE HAS TO SOUTH DAKOTA, I THINK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL AIRMEN. I BELIEVE THAT THE TRUE STRENGTH OF OUR ARMED FORCES LIES WITH THEM. IT DOESN'T COME FROM THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USE OR THE AIRCRAFT THAT THEY FLY. IT'S THEIR COURAGE, THEIR RESILIENCE, AND THE BRAVERY OF THESE FINE MEN AND WOMEN. AS GREAT AS THE B-17'S, B-29'S, B-1, AND THE MQ-9 REAPER ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE UNMANNED AMERICAN -- TO THE EVERYDAY AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBER. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE COMMEMORATE THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE, WE DON'T FOCUS ONLY ON THE NATIONAL IMPORTANCE THE BASE HAS PLAYED OR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IT HAS HAD IN SOUTH DAKOTA. INSTEAD, WE FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL AIRMEN AND THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S THE AIRMAN WHO LEAVES HIS FAMILY, PROTECTS OUR COUNTRY DAY IN AND DAY OUT, AND RESPONDS TO THE CALL OF DUTY. EACH AIRMAN PLAYS ONE SMALL PART IN A LARGER OPERATION. WHETHER THEY ARE PILOTS, NAVIGATORS, ENGINEERS, MUNITIONS PERSONNEL, OR AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS, EACH ONE PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE. I THANK ALL THE AIR MEN AND WOMEN WHO COME TO ELLSWORTH AND DID THEIR DUTY TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. THEY HAVE DONE SO FOR 70 YEARS AND HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB. I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND THE FAMILIES OF THE AIR MEN PAST AND PRESENT. I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY OF THE MILITARY PERSONNEL AND THEIR FAMILIES AND I'M ALWAYS INSPIRED BY THEIR SELFLESS COMMITMENT TO OUR COUNTRY. EVERY FAMILY MEMBER OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN MAKE SACRIFICES. GOD BLESS THEM FOR STAYING STRONG AND FOR PROVIDING A STRONG SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ARE STATIONED AT ELLSWORTH AND BASES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

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    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM PUERTO RICO, MR. PIERLUISI, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. PIERLUISI

    MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I'M INTRODUCING SLAYINGS TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE…

    MADAM SPEAKER, TODAY I'M INTRODUCING SLAYINGS TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE TREATMENT TO PUERTO RICO AND OTHER U.S. TERRITORIES UNDER THE TANF PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES CASH PAYMENTS TO NEEDY FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. CURRENTLY THE TERRITORIES ARE NOT ELIGIBILITY FOR SUPPLEMENTAL GRANTS, CONTINGENCY FUNDS, AND CHILDCARE FUNDS UNDER TANF. MOREOVER, FEDERAL LAW IMPOSES AN ANNUAL CAP ON THE OVERALL FUNDING THAT EACH OF THE TERRITORIES CAN RECEIVE UNDER A VARIETY OF PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, INCLUDING TANF. MY LEGISLATION WOULD USE THIS FUNDING CAP AND MAKES THE TERRITORIES ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS THEY DO NOT PERSONALLY RECEIVE. PUERTO RICO IS TREATED UNFAIRLY UNDER FEDERAL PROGRAMS TRYING TO HELP OUR NATION'S MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. THIS TANF BILL COMPLEMENTS TWO PREVIOUS BILLS I HAVE INTRODUCED WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MY CONSTITUENTS IN S.S.I. AND SNAP. TO SEE HOW PUERTO RICO IS HURT BY ITS CURRENT TERRITORIAL STATUS, WE ONLY LOOK AT THE ISLAND'S SHOCKING TREATMENT UNDER THESE THREE KEY PROGRAMS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATUS AND THE WELL-BEING OF ALL THE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN THE TERRITORIES, YOU REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS GEOGRAPHIC DISCRIMINATION. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO PENALIZE THE AMERICAN RESIDENTS WHO DECIDE TO RESIDE IN THE FIVE TERRITORIES BELONGING TO THE UNITED STATES. THE ONLY REASON THAT SOMETIMES IT'S RAISED IS THAT THOSE TERRITORIES, THE RESIDENTS OF THE TERRITORIES, DO NOT PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT TO EVEN RAISE THAT ARGUMENT WHEN CLOSE TO HALF OF THE U.S. HOUSEHOLDS IN THE U.S., IN THE U.S. MAINLAND, IN THE 50 STATES, ARE NOT PAYING FEDERAL INCOME TAXES BECAUSE OF THEIR INCOME LEVELS. IT IS ALSO NOT RIGHT WHEN MOST, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE TERRITORIES, WOULD NOT PAY THOSE INCOME TAXES ANYWAY. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS FAIRNESS. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS PARITY. THERE SHOULD BE EQUAL TREATMENT FOR ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY RESIDE WITHIN AMERICA. I SUPPORT STATEHOOD FOR PUERTO RICO FOR SEVERAL REASONS, ONE OF WHICH IS THIS CONCEPT OF PARITY. ONCE THE TERRITORY BECOMES A STATE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SEEK PARITY. IT AUTOMATICALLY PARTICIPATES IN ALL FEDERAL PROGRAMS. THAT'S ONE REASON. BUT I SUPPORT STATEHOOD FOR PUERTO RICO FOR A MORE IMPORTANT REASON. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF VOTING RIGHTS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PUERTO RICO. I FOR ONE SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. I AM THE ONE, THE AMERICAN CITIZENS IN PUERTO RICO ELECT TO REPRESENT THEM IN THIS CONGRESS, AND I COME TO THIS CHAMBER, I CAN SPEAK, I CAN INTRODUCE LEGISLATION, I BELONG TO COMMITTEES, BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST BILLS THAT BENEFIT OR AFFECT MY CONSTITUENTS, I CANNOT DO SO. MY NAME DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR ON THE ELECTRONIC BOARD HERE IN THIS HALL. THAT IS EMBARRASSING. IT HURTS ME AND IT HURTS MY CONSTITUENTS. IF PUERTO RICO WERE A STATE, WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND TWO SENATORS ADVOCATING FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I SUPPORT STATEHOOD. BUT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT. LAST YEAR PRESIDENT OBAMA VISITED PUERTO RICO. I FELT SO PROUD BECAUSE I HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT IS EMBARRASSING TO SAY THAT NO PRESIDENT HAS VISITED PUERTO RICO IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN 50 YEARS. WE HAD TO WAIT 50 YEARS FOR A PRESIDENT TO SHOW UP IN PUERTO RICO. I AM SURE THAT IF THE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN PUERTO RICO WERE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THEIR PRESIDENT, PRESIDENTS WOULD BE VISITING PUERTO RICO ON A REGULAR BASIS. THEY WOULD BE MAKING COMMITMENTS. THEY WOULD BE LEARNING ABOUT OUR NEEDS, AND THEY WOULD BE DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH RESPECT TO THE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN PUERTO RICO. ON NOVEMBER 58 THERE WILL BE A PLEBISCITE IN PUERTO RICO AND TWO QUESTIONS WILL BE POSED BEFORE THE VOTERS. THE FIRST QUESTION WILL BE WHETHER THEY WANT PUERTO RICO TO CONTINUE BEING A TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS. THE SECOND QUESTION WILL ASK THEM TO EXPRESS THEIR PREFERENCE WITH RESPECT TO THE AVAILABLE STATUS OPTIONS WE HAVE, APART FROM THE CURRENT TERRITORIAL STATUS. STATEHOOD, INDEPENDENCE, AND FREE ASSOCIATION. I HOPE THEY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, SENDING A MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR TO THIS CONGRESS THAT THEY IN LONGER WANT TO BE A TERRITORY AND THEY WANT TO BE THE 51ST STATE OF THE UNION. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, MR. BISHOP, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. DESPITE ADVICE TO THE CONTRARY, OUR CONSTITUTION…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. DESPITE ADVICE TO THE CONTRARY, OUR CONSTITUTION ESTABLISHES A GOVERNMENT WITH TWO SOVEREIGNS, THE NATION AND THE INDIVIDUAL STATES. THEY WORRIED ABOUT THAT IN PHILADELPHIA. JAMES WILSON WONDERED IF THIS SYSTEM WOULD BE LIKE TWO METEORS ON A COLLISION COURSE, THE COLLISION OF WHICH WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC. OR IF THIS SYSTEM WOULD BE LIKE THE SOLAR SYSTEM, WHERE THE PLANETS STAYED IN THEIR SPHERE AND COURSE AND DID NOT INTERFERE WITH ONE ANOTHER. THAT LATTER VISION WE CALL FEDERALISM. RESTATED IN THE 10TH AMENDMENT WHERE EACH LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT HAD A SPECIFIC AND DISTINCT RESPONSIBILITY. WHEN THE STATES WERE INTERFERING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT PRODUCED HISTORICAL CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES. BUT ALSO WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTERFERES WITH THE ROLE OF STATES, THE CONSEQUENCES WILL RANGE FROM BEING CATASTROPHIC TO JUST PLAIN SILLY. WE ARE NOW IN THE SILLY SYSTEM. IN 2010 THIS CONGRESS PASSED THE HEALTHY AND HUNGRY FREE KIDS ACT. WE PASSED IT FOR FIVE REASONS. NUMBER ONE, IT WAS A SENATE BILL, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR FIRST TIPOFF. NUMBER TWO, OWE POSED BY THE GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION AND THE SCHOOL BOARD'S ASSOCIATION. FOUR IT VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION. YOU SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ITS ONLY ADVANTAGE IF EVERYONE HAS TO DO THE SAME THING IN THE SAME WAY AT THE SAME TIME, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN IMPOSE THAT, BUT SCHOOLS ARE GIVEN TO THE STATES BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE CREATIVITY, EFFICIENCY, AND JUSTICE. FINALLY, NUMBER FIVE, WE CREATED A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL FEDERAL PROGRAM, NOT DESIGNED BY US. WE SIMPLY PASSED THIS GRAND IDEA AN GAVE POWER TO A SECRETARY IN SOME BUILDING HERE IN WASHINGTON TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF STANDARDS. TWO SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT HAVE NOW BEEN HIT BY THOSE STANDARDS. I CARE ABOUT THOSE SCHOOLS BECAUSE FROM ONE I GRADUATED A LONG, LONG TIME AGO. AND THE OTHER I TAUGHT FOR 23 YEARS. THEY WERE HIT WITH A $16,000 AND $19,000 FINE RESPECTIVELY. WHAT WAS THE HEINOUS CRIME FOR WHICH THESE FINES WERE LEVIED AGAINST THE FUNDS THAT GO TO HELP THE KIDS IN THESE SCHOOLS? DURING THE LUNCH HOUR THEIR VENDING MACHINES WERE PLUGGED IN. THESE VENDING MACHINES WERE NOT IN THE CAFETERIA, THAT VIOLATED THE STANDARDS. THEY WERE DOWN IN THE DIFFERENT PART OF THE SCHOOL. SINCE THE KIDS WALKED DOWN TO THE CAFETERIA WITH THEIR LUNCH AND WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY TOWARDS THE GYM WHERE THE VENDING MACHINE WAS AND THERE WAS NOT A WALL BY THEIR STANDARDS TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT, THE ENTIRE SCHOOL WAS FINED AND DESIGNATED AS A CAFETERIA AND THE SCHOOLS WERE PENALIZED. BY THE STANDARDS THAT WERE CREATED, IF A KID BUYS A COKE AND TAKES IT TO LUNCH TO DRINK IT, THAT'S NUTRITIONAL, BUT IF HE BUYS HIS LUNCH FIRST AND GOES DOWN TO BUY A COKE, THAT IS NOW BY OUR STANDARDS UNHEALTHY. SNICKERS BY OUR STANDARDS ARE HEALTHY FOOD. LICORICE IS NOT. ICE CREAM IS HEALTHY. SWEDISH FISH ARE NO. THE APPARENTLY BY OUR STANDARDS ANYTHING THAT COULD STICK TO YOUR MOUTH IS NOT A HEALTHY FOOD, SO STAR BURSTS ARE OUT, MILKY WAYS ARE IN. IT WAS WRONG FOR CONGRESS TO PASS A LAW WITHOUT TAKING THE TIME TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS THAT WERE RATIONAL BY OURSELVES AND GIVING THAT YOU POER -- POWER TO ANOTHER BODY. IT WAS WRONG FOR CONGRESS TO INVADE THE ROLE OF STATES. IT WAS WRONG TO PUNISH KIDS FOR THESE SILLY REASONS. IT IS WRONG TO VIOLATE FEDERALISM. IF A COMMUNITY SCHOOL AND THEIR P.T.A. WANTED TO CREATE THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES, FINE, FEDERALISM MEANS PEOPLE HAVE IN THE LOCAL LEVEL SHOULD BE FREE TO CREATE INDECISION IT IS THEY WANT TO EVEN IF THEY ARE DUMB. BUT IT IS WRONG FOR THIS BODY TO THINK THAT EVERY ISSUE HAS TO BE DECIDED HERE IN THIS ROOM AND THERE IS WRONG FOR US TO FORGET THAT THE 10TH AMENDMENT HAS A PURPOSE. IT IS THERE FOR A REASON AND IT SHOULD BE RESPECTED. MADAM SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WOOLSEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MS. WOOLSEY

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THERE ARE A FEW MORE IMPORTANT ITEMS FOR US TO…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THERE ARE A FEW MORE IMPORTANT ITEMS FOR US TO DEAL WITH THAN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO, FOR ALL THE COURAGE THAT'S SHOWN, AND THE SACRIFICES THAT THEY HAVE MADE WE MUST BE ABSOLUTELY VIGILANT ABOUT PROTECTING THEM FROM UNNECESSARY RISK. THAT'S WHY I WAS TROUBLED TO HEAR NEWS REPORTS ABOUT SEVERAL OF OUR MOST HIGHLY TRAINED AND SKILLED AIR FORCE PILOTS EXPERIENCING LOSS OF OXYGEN WHILE IN THE COCKPIT OF THE F-22 AIRCRAFT. . WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLACKING OUT, LOSING CONTROL OF THE PLANE. THOSE WHO FLEW THE F-22 REPORTED AN INCIDENT SIMILAR TO THIS. IN FACT, ONE FAMILY BLAMES THIS MYSTERIOUS AFFLICTION FOR A CRASH THAT KILLED THEIR LOVED ONE. WE HAVE SOME OF OUR MOST FEARLESS PILOTS AFRAID AND EVEN REFUSING TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE F-22. TWO PILOTS WENT SO FAR AS TO APPEAR ON SHOWS LIKE "60 MINUTES" WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THEIR SUPERIORS SO THAT THEY COULD EXPOSE THE PROBLEM. IN RESPONSE, MADAM SPEAKER, I PREPARED AN AMENDMENT TO THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT WHICH THE HOUSE WILL DEBATE TODAY. MY AMENDMENT WOULD CUT OFF FUNDING FOR THE F-22 UNTIL THE PENTAGON'S INSPECTOR GENERAL COMPLETES AN INVESTIGATION ON THESE MALFUNCTIONS AND FINDS A SOLUTION TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR PILOTS. THANKFULLY MY AMENDMENT WASN'T NECESSARY BECAUSE YESTERDAY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE PANETTA TOOK STEPS TO IMPOSE FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE F-22. DEMANDING THAT THE AIR FORCE TAKE STRONGER SAFETY MEASURES TO PROTECT OUR TROOPS. BECAUSE OF THE SECRETARY'S RESPONSE TO THESE LIFE AND DEATH CONCERNS, I HAVE WITHDRAWN MY AMENDMENT BUT I WILL STAY ON TOP OF THIS SITUATION. THE F-22 ISN'T EXACTLY A BARGAIN BASEMENT ITEM, MADAM SPEAKER. THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S COST TAXPAYERS $79 BILLION. AND THAT'S FOR A PLANE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO FIGHT THE NEXT GENERATION OF SOVIET JET. EVEN THOUGH THE SOFEYENT UNION ITSELF DIDN'T HAVE A NEXT GENERATION AND DOESN'T EXIST ANY MORE. WHAT'S MORE, THE F-22 HASN'T FLOWN A SINGLE MISSION IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN. IT TROUBLES ME, MADAM SPEAKER, THAT WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH ON SLICK SUPPOSEDLY STATE-OF-THE-ART AIRCRAFT THAT ARE MAKING OUR AIR FORCE PILOTS DANGEROUSLY SICK. AT A MOMENT WHEN WE CAN USE THAT MONEY ON PROGRAMS OUR SERVICE MEMBERS BADLY NEED. FOR EXAMPLE, VETERANS GROUPS ARE FIGHTING FOR MORE RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. FOR JOB PLACEMENT, FOR ACCESS TO EDUCATION, FOR V.A. HOME LOANS AND MUCH MORE. CERTAINLY WE SHOULD INVEST IN IMPROVING THE LIVES OF OUR TROOPS INSTEAD OF ENDANGERING THEM. MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ARE FOND OF POINTING OUT THAT WE'RE IN A CHALLENGING FISCAL ENVIRONMENT. FOR EVERY GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE SHOULD RECEIVE THE STRICTEST SCRUTINY. I JUST HOPE THAT THEY'LL APPLY AS TOUGH A STANDARD TO EXPENSIVE WEAPONS SYSTEMS AS THEY DID TO FOREIGN HUMANITARIAN AID. AND WHAT THEY DO TO IMPORTANT DOMESTIC SAFETY NET PROGRAMS RIGHT HERE AT HOME. AS WE DEBATE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION TODAY, WE MUST CHOOSE THE DEFENSE PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY ENHANCE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY OVER THE ONES LIKE THE F-22 THAT ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS THAN SOLUTIONS. MADAM SPEAKER, I BELIEVE MORE STRONGLY THAN EVER THAT WE NEED TO END THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS BY BRINGING THEM HOME. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, MAKING SURE THAT THE PLANES THEY FLY AND THE EQUIPMENT THEY USE ARE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE IS CERTAINLY OUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY. WE OWE THEM NOTHING LESS. I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. SPEIER

    MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE AGAIN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE HORRIFIC SITUATION IN…

    MADAM SPEAKER. TODAY I RISE AGAIN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE HORRIFIC SITUATION IN THE MILITARY AND THAT IS THE EPIDEMIC OF RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT GOES ON UNABATED. THIS IS THE 20TH TIME THAT I'M HERE ON THE FLOOR TO TELL THE STORY OF YET ANOTHER VICTIM. 19 TIMES BEFORE I'VE BEEN ON THIS FLOOR TO TELL ABOUT VICTIMS IN MILITARY SERVICE. I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MILITARY CULTURE THAT TREATS SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT WITH A SILENT ACCEPTANCE, AND THE COMMAND STRUCTURE THAT PUNISHES THE VICTIM AND DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF DEALING WITH THE PERPETRATOR. TODAY I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE CULTURE THAT EXISTS IN OUR MILITARY SERVICE ACADEMIES THAT TRAIN OUR CADETS TO BECOME COMMISSIONED OFFICERS. I'VE NOT TOLD YOU THAT THE SAME CONFLICTED CHAIN OF COMMAND STRUCTURE THAT EXISTS IN THE MILITARY ALSO EXISTS AT OUR PRESTIGIOUS SERVICE ACADEMIES. THE MILITARY ACADEMY AT WEST POINT AND THE NAVAL, COAST GUARD, AIR FORCE AND MERCHANT MARINE FOLLOW THE SAME RULES OF THE MILITARY. THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. TODAY I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE STORY OF CARLY MARQUETTE WHO IS A FIRST-YEAR CADET WHEN SHE WAS RAPED JUST LAST YEAR. SHE WAS A SPANKING BRAND NEW WEST POINTER, GIFTED IN BOTH ACADEMICS AND ATHLETICS, CARLY WAS A STAR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. SHE HAD HER PICK TO GO TO ANY NUMBER OF COLLEGES. SHE CHOSE WEST POINT BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO SERVE HER COUNTRY. WEST POINT CHOSE CARLY BECAUSE SHE POSSESSED THE SKILLS AND CHARACTER THAT THE ARMY NEEDS FOR SUCCESS, BUT ONLY A FEW MONTHS AT THE ACADEMY CARLY WAS BETRAYED. SHE WAS RAPED BY A WEST POINT UPPER CLASSMAN THAT SHE KNEW AND THOUGHT SHE COULD TRUST. HE CAME TO HER ROOM ONE NIGHT WHEN SHE WAS ALONE TO TALK ABOUT GIRL TROUBLES. HE GAVE HER A SPORTS DRINK THAT HAD ALCOHOL IN IT. PEER PRESSURE BY UPPER CLASSMEN TO CONSUME ALCOHOL IS PERVASIVE AT WEST POINT. CARLY DRANK ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF THE LIQUID IN THE BOTTLE AND SHE BECAME INTOXICATED. THE UPPER CLASSMAN CONVINCED HER TO GO TO HIS ROOM AND RAPED HER. HE REPEATEDLY WENT TO HER ROOM AND ASKED HER NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE RAPE. AND ANOTHER FEMALE CADET HAD REPORTED BEING RAPED. THEY CALLED THE VICTIM A SHUT WHO WAS ASKING FOR IT. BUT CARLY WAS NOT INTIMIDATED. SHE REPORTED THE CRIME TO HER CHAIN OF COMMAND, BUT JUST LIKE SO MANY OF THE STORIES I'VE TOLD HERE BEFORE, NO SERIOUS ACTION WAS TAKEN TO ASSIST HER. WEST POINT DID NOT MOVE THE PERPETRATOR FROM CARLY'S COMPANY. SHE HAD TO SEE HIM EVERY DAY. WEST POINT DID NOT ALTER CARLY'S DUTIES WHICH MEANT SHE STILL HAD TO DO CHORES WITH THE UPPER CLASSMAN WHO RAPED HER. AS A RESULT OF THE RAPE AND THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT, CARLY BEGAN TO SUFFER POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, AND SHE RESIGNED LESS THAN A YEAR AFTER BECOMING A CADET. IT HAS BEEN A YEAR AFTER BEING RAPED, YET THE PERPETRATOR WAS NOT BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. WHY WAS NOTHING DONE TO HELP THIS TALENTED WOMAN WHO ONLY 12 MONTHS BEFORE WAS DEEMED QUALIFIED AND DESERVING OF A SPOT AT THE PRESTIGIOUS UNITED STATES MILITARY ACADEMY? THE VIOLENT ACT COMMITTED AGAINST CARLY IS REPREHENSIBLE. THE DISMISSIVE ATTITUDE HELD BY THE ACADEMY OFFICIALS IS SHOCKING AND INEXCUSABLE. IT IS TIME FOR THIS NARRATIVE TO CHANGE. LAST DECEMBER THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REPORT REVEALED A NEARLY 60% INCREASE IN REPORTED SEXUAL ASSAULTS AT SERVICE ACADEMIES IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WEST POINT WAS FOUND, QUOTE, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PENTAGON'S POLICIES TO PREVENT RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. CIVILIAN COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY STUDENTS CAN REPORT CRIMES TO LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS. THEY CAN PRESS CHARGES DIRECTLY AGAINST PERPETRATORS AND THEY CAN OBTAIN THEIR OWN LEGAL COUNSEL. MILITARY CADETS MUST COMPLY WITH THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT HAS A HORRIBLE RECORD OF PROVIDING JUSTICE FOR VICTIMS OF RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. OUR FUTURE MILITARY LEADERS DESERVE BETTER. SURVIVORS CAN EMAIL ME AT STOPMILITARYRAPE@MAIL.HOUSE.GOV IF THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK OUT AS WELL. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. DAVIS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. DAVIS

    YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO RISE TODAY TO NOTE THE THIRD…

    YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO RISE TODAY TO NOTE THE THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF THE ENDING OF THE CIVIL WAR IN SRI LANKA. ON MAY 19, 2009, A NEW ERA, AN ERA OF PEACE BEGAN IN THIS COUNTRY, AN ERA OF HOPE, AN ERA OF POSSIBILITY AND AN ERA OF JUSTICE WITH MOVEMENT TOWARDS RECONNECTION AND RECONCILIATION . UNFORTUNATELY, IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS NEW ERA OF HOPE SEEM TO BE SLOW IN COMING AND STILL SEEM TO MANY IN THE COUNTRY AND THROUGHOUT WHO HAVE LINGERING FEARS THAT GOVERNANCE OF THE COUNTRY WILL REMAIN CLOSED AND NOT AS DEMOCRATICALLY OPERATED AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THAT JUSTICE DEMANDS. THE PRESIDENT OF SRI LANKA STARTED TALKS WITH THE TAMA NATIONAL ALLIANCE, THE PARTY THAT HAS WON ALL ELECTIONS IN THE NORTHEAST SINCE THE END OF THE WAR MORE THAN A YEAR AGO. UNFORTUNATELY, THESE TALKS SEEM TO HAVE BOGGED DOWN AND ARE NOT PROGRESSING AS WAS ANTICIPATED. SHREENLANKA IS A HIGHLY CENTRALIZED -- SRI LANKA IS A HIGHLY CENTRALIZED STATE. THE POLICE, THE USE OF LAND AND THE EDUCATION SYSTEM ARE OFTEN CITED AS BEING ONE OF THE CAUSES OF THE CIVIL WAR. IT IS REPORTED THAT EVEN AREAS NOT AFFECTED BY THE WAR SUFFER FROM NEGLECT BY COLOMBO AND DISTANT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO MAKE ARBITRARY DECISIONS AS IS FREQUENTLY NOTED BY THE WORLD BANK AND OTHERS. TENSIONS CONTINUE TO EXIST BETWEEN THE SINGELESE THAT CONTROLS THE GOVERNMENT AND THE TAMAS WHO CONSIDER THE NORTH AND EAST AS THEIR TRADITIONAL HOMELAND. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT AFTER HOSTILITIES ENDED ON THE BATTLEFIELD THEY STILL SEEM TO EXIST IN MANY OF THE SAME WAYS THAT OCCURRED BEFORE THE WAR ACTUALLY BROKE OUT. IT IS MY HOPE THAT SRI LANKA WILL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH ITS DIFFICULTIES SO THAT THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY CAN EXPERIENCE THE PEACE AND STABILITY ITS CITIZENS RIGHTLY DESERVE. THE PEACE AND STABILITY ITS CITIZENS RIGHTLY DESERVE. I THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    HAS EXAMINED THE JOURNAL OF THE LAST DAY'S PROCEEDINGS AND ANNOUNCES TO THE HOUSE HIS APPROVAL THEREOF. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 1 OF RULE 1, THE JOURNAL STANDS APPROVED. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. REID. MR.

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    MR. REID

    PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE…

    PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. REED, IS RECOGNIZED FOR…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. REED, IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. REED

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO WELCOME TO THE HOUSE CHAMBER A…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY TO WELCOME TO THE HOUSE CHAMBER A GREAT INDIVIDUAL FROM OUR DISTRICT, PASTOR KEN KRONIGER. HE'S THE SPIRITUAL LEADER OF 70 IN MY DISTRICT IN ALFRED STATION IN NEW YORK FOR THE SEVENTH DAY CHURCH THERE. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR HIM NOT ONLY FOR WHAT HE DOES FOR HIS CONGREGATION BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY, IN PARTICULAR, THE BASEBALL GAMES WE HAVE ATTENDED FOR THE YOUTH AS THEY HAVE ATTENDED THEIR SUMMER LEAGUES IN NEW YORK. I WELCOME PASTOR KEN AS WE FROM THE FINGER LAKES AREA OF NEW YORK JOIN HIM IN STARTING OFF OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE TODAY. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN 15 ONE-MINUTE REQUESTS FOR ONE-MINUTE SPEECHES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    PERMISSION FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE AND REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MR. WILSON

    FOR THE PAST 39 MONTHS, OUR NATION'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS REMAINED ABOVE…

    FOR THE PAST 39 MONTHS, OUR NATION'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS REMAINED ABOVE 8% DUE TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S FAILED POLICIES. SADLY THE AVERAGE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR OUR VETERANS IS HIGHER. CONGRESS HAS DEVELOPED A PILOT PROGRAM TO HELP VETERANS FIND JOBS. VETERANS SHOULD BE READY TO PERFORM THE SAME TASKS IN THE INDUSTRY AS THE WORKPLACE. IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, CONGRESSMAN WALSH OF ILLINOIS HAS PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO TODAY'S NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT PROVIDING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO REFORM THE PIE LOT PROGRAM, HELPING SERVICE MEMBERS SUPPLY THE SKILLS LEARNED IN THEIR SERVICE TO THE CIVILIAN WORKPLACE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SOCIETY IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. IN CONCLUSION, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND WE WILL NEVER FORGET SEPTEMBER 11 AND THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM.

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    MR. CICILLINE

    I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE OF NAGUNA WHO FOUGHT AND DIED FOR…

    I RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE OF NAGUNA WHO FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM THE SOVIETS. IF THE EARLY STAGE OF ITS FORMATION, THE REPUBLIC'S FREELY ELECTED BODIES HAVE BUILT A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY THROUGH FREE AND TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS. FAMILIES OF ARMENIAN DESCENT THROUGHOUT THINK DISTRICT WILL HONOR THIS. TODAY THEY WILL BE JOINED BY THE PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE REPUBLIC TO THE UNITED STATES AS THEY ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE REPUBLIC'S EFFORT TO DEVELOP AS A FREE AND INDEPENDENT NATION, A FACT THAT MANY RHODE ISLANDERS TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN. I YIELD BACK.

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    CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE AND REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    YEARS AGO, THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY DECLARED THEIR INDEPENDENCE. MADAM SPEAKER…

    YEARS AGO, THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY DECLARED THEIR INDEPENDENCE. MADAM SPEAKER THE UNITED STATES AND NORWAY HAVE A VERY SPECIAL BOND. OUR TRADITIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND ALSO DEMOCRACY ARE WOVEN IN THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR SHARED HISTORY. OVER THE LAST TWO CENTURY THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR COUNTRY.

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    MR. PAULSEN

    TO SEND OUR BEST WISHES AND REAFFIRM THE CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR NATIONS. I…

    TO SEND OUR BEST WISHES AND REAFFIRM THE CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR NATIONS. I YIELD BACK.

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    SPEAKER. LAST OCTOBER ON THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE

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    MS. HAHN

    PUT UP A CROSS FOR EVERY SOLDIER WHO LOST THEIR LIFE IN THAT WAR. AS THE…

    PUT UP A CROSS FOR EVERY SOLDIER WHO LOST THEIR LIFE IN THAT WAR. AS THE NUMB OF DEAD GREW, THEY WERE ONLY ABLE TO PUT ONE CROSS FOR EVERY 10 SOLDIERS. 1,843 SOLDIERS HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN, WE HAD 17,000 CASUALTIES. THE DEFENSE BILL TODAY IN ITS CURRENT FORM SLOWS DOWN THE EFFORT TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS WHEN WE SHOULD BE SPEEDING IT UP. THAT'S WHY I CO-SPONSORED LEGISLATION WITH BARBARA LEE THAT WOULD MANDATE THAT ANY AFGHANISTAN FUNDING BE USED ONLY TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. WITHOUT SUCH A CHANGE, I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS BILL. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO ARLINGTON WEST ONLY TO SEE THEM ADDING MORE CROSSES.

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    GREATER REMINDERS OF HOW DANGEROUS IRAN IS TO AMERICA THAN THE…

    GREATER REMINDERS OF HOW DANGEROUS IRAN IS TO AMERICA THAN THE IRANIAN-BACKED BEIRUT AND 1996 KHOBAR TOWERS BOMBINGS WHERE 260 AMERICAN LOST THEIR LIVES. THERE WAS NO MILITARY OR ECONOMIC RETALIATION TO IRAN FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THESE BOMBINGS. THE ONLY RECOURSE THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO DIED HAD IS A FINANCIAL AWARD GIVEN TO THEM BY THE FEDERAL COURTS, AND AWAR -- AN AWARD THAT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN. THIS IS WHY I INTRODUCED H.R. 74070 A LEGAL NECESSITY THAT REVOKES SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY FROM IRANIAN CENTRAL BANK AND ALLOWS A FEDERAL COURT TO ATTACH FROZEN FUNDS. THUS THE FAMILIES IMPACTED BY THOSE BOMBINGS CAN RECEIVE THE FINANCIAL COMPENSATION THEY DESERVED AND WERE PREVIOUSLY AWARDED. TODAY, 15 FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LOST THEIR LOVED ONES ARE ON CAPITOL HILL ASKING FOR TWO THINGS THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT IRAN FROM KILLING MORE AMERICANS AND THAT WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I STAND WITH THEM AND WILL CONTINUE TO REMIND AMERICANS ABOUT WHAT THE IRAN HAS DONE AND WHAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    THEY PUT U.S. AIRCRAFT INTO POSITION FOR AIR AND SEA-BASED MISSIONS AND…

    THEY PUT U.S. AIRCRAFT INTO POSITION FOR AIR AND SEA-BASED MISSIONS AND THE BOLSTERING OF U.S. CAPABILITIES TO LAUNCH A SUSTAINED SEA AND AIR CAMPAIGN AGAINST A RANGE OF IRANIAN NUCLEAR MILITARY TARGETS. IT AUTHORIZES WAR UNDER THE PRETEXT THAT IRAN IS THREATENING TO LAUNCH A NUCLEAR ATTACK EVEN THOUGH IRAN DOES NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, DOES NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAPABILITY AND IS NOT BUILDING A BOMB. BEYOND THE OBVIOUS POLITICAL AND MILITARY QUESTIONS HERE, THERE'S A PROFOUND SPIRITUAL QUESTION. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA THAT WE CAN EMBRACE WAR OR WAGING WAR SO CASUALLY? WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR SOULS WHEN WE AUTHORIZE AN ATTACK ON A NUCLEAR FACILITY IN ANOTHER COUNTRY? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO PERISH WHEN RADIATION IS RELEASED FROM SUCH AN ATTACK? THE GOLDEN RULE STATES, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. IT DOES NOT SAY, DO UNTO OTHERS BEFORE THEY DO UNTO YOU.

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    MRS. NOEM

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    MRS. NOEM

    HONOR THE MEMORY OF FORMER SOUTH DAKOTA CONGRESSMAN JIM ABNER WHO PASSED…

    HONOR THE MEMORY OF FORMER SOUTH DAKOTA CONGRESSMAN JIM ABNER WHO PASSED AWAY YESTERDAY AT THE AGE OF 89. HE DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO SERVE OUR STATE AND COUNTRY. IN WHATEVER CAPACITY HE WAS SERVING, U.S. CONGRESSMAN, STATE LEGISLATURE, HE WAS A MAN WHO PUT OTHERS FIRST. THOSE WHO KNEW HIM REMEMBER JIM AS AN INCREDIBLY DECENT MAN WHAT WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR THE STATE HE LOVED. IN MY PERSONAL INTERACTIONS WITH HIM, I WAS IMPRESSED BY WHAT A MAN OF HUMILITY HE WAS. HE LEFT A LEGACY OF HARD WORK, COMMITMENT, AND SELFLESS SACRIFICE THAT EVERY RESIDENT OF THE RUSHMORE STATE CAN BE PROUD OF. I ASK THOSE WHO KNEW HIM PERSONALLY OR OF HIS LEGACY TO KEEP HIS FAMILY AND LOVED ONES IN THEIR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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    MS. FUDGE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND RISE?

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    MR. BARTLETT

    YEARS AGO, WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT CONVENED BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE UNITED…

    YEARS AGO, WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT CONVENED BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND THEY CONVENED THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. DELEGATES FROM FREDERICK COUNTY ARE ASKED TO BE CHARTERED AS THE FIRST COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN THE UNITED STATES. PLEASE JOIN ME IN CELEBRATING THIS VERY IMPORTANT BELATED 100TH BIRTH DAY CELEBRATION IN FREDERICK COUNTY, MARYLAND. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I YIELD BACK.

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    INVESTING IN EDUCATION IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR NATION'S FUTURE. IN THESE…

    INVESTING IN EDUCATION IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR NATION'S FUTURE. IN THESE TOUGH TIMES, WE SHOULD MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO INCREASE ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION FOR ALL AMERICANS AND I STATE FOR ALL AMERICANS, UNFORTUNATELY, IF CONGRESS DOES NOT ACT SOON, INTEREST RATES ON STUDENT LOANS WILL DOUBLE FOR OVER SEVEN MILLION STUDENTS. IF THESE RATES -- RATE HIKES GO INTO EFFECTS, IT WILL BE CHEAPER TO BUY A HOME THAN A COLLEGE EDUCATION.

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    MR. BACA

    SADLY THE G.O.P. SEEMS TO WANT HIGHER EDUCATION RESERVED ONLY FOR THE…

    SADLY THE G.O.P. SEEMS TO WANT HIGHER EDUCATION RESERVED ONLY FOR THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS IN. INSTEAD OF WORKING TO HELP MORE AMERICANS ACHIEVE COLLEGE EDUCATION, REPUBLICANS ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH THE HEALTH OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN. ONCE AGAIN, REPUBLICANS ARE SHOWING THE -- THEIR PRIORITIES ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH HARD WORKING AMERICANS. WE NEED TO ACT NOW TO KEEP STUDENT LOAN INTEREST RATES LOW SO ALL AMERICANS, I SAY ALL AMERICANS, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN AN EDUCATION. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    I RISE TODAY TO HONOR AN THEANING LIEUTENANT COLONEL DAVID ARNETT FROM…

    I RISE TODAY TO HONOR AN THEANING LIEUTENANT COLONEL DAVID ARNETT FROM GREELEY, COLORADO, FOR HIS 29 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. COLONEL ARNETT RETIRED FROM SERVICE AS THE FLIGHT COMMANDER OF THE 137TH SPACE WARNING SQUADRON IN GREELEY THIS PAST MONTH. HIS EXTENSIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ARE RIVALED ONLY BY HIS SERVICE AND INVOLVEMENT IN THE GREELEY COMMUNITY. HE WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AS A COMBAT FIELD COMMANDER AND THE 137TH SPACE WARNING SQUADRON WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE NATION'S TOP NONFLYING AIR NATIONAL GUARD COMBAT SQUADRON SIX TIMES, WHICH IS UNPRECEDENTED. AFTER 16 YEARS OF SERVICE IN GREELEY AND A DOZEN MAJOR AND MINOR COMBAT INSPECTIONS BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, COLONEL ARNETT WAS ADDITIONALLY REFRESHING NIESED AS ONE OF THE NATION'S TOP SPACE AND MISSILE OPERATORS AND FLIGHT COMMANDERS.

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    MR. GARDNER

    IN THE GREELEY COMMUNITY HE WAS THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA SCOUTMASTER OF…

    IN THE GREELEY COMMUNITY HE WAS THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA SCOUTMASTER OF THE YEAR AND IS A LOVING HUSBAND TO HIS WIFE AND FATHER OF THEIR FOUR CHILDREN. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY HONOR AND CONGRATULATE COLONEL ARNETT ON HIS RETIREMENT AND THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO OUR NATION. I YIELD BACK.

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    IN RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL CANCER RESEARCH MONTH.

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    MR. HIGGINS

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE RISE?

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    MR. COHEN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. GLEN CAMPBELL IS ONE OF THE GREAT SINGERS AND…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. GLEN CAMPBELL IS ONE OF THE GREAT SINGERS AND GUITARISTS IN OUR UNITED STATES HISTORY. HE SUFFERS FROM ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE. DESPITE THAT FACT, HE CONTINUES TO TOUR. HE IS GIVING HIS FAREWELL TOUR NOW. LAST NIGHT SOME OF US WERE PRIVILEGED TO HEAR HIM AT THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS STILL PERFORMING WELL. HE'S PERFORMING TO BRING MORE ATTENTION TO ALZHEIMER'S, A DISEASE THAT STRIKES FIVE MILLION AMERICANS AND WILL STRIKE ANOTHER 10 MILLION AS BABY BOOMERS GET OLDER. A SERIOUS DISEASE WHICH HAS NO CURE AND NO REAL KNOWLEDGE OF ORIGINS OF IT. WE MUST FIND A CURE. PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCED THE LAUNCH OF THE NATIONAL ALZHEIMER'S PLAN WHICH IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO FIND A CURE AND PREVENT AND TREATMENT ALZHEIMER'S BY 2025. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR SUCH IN THIS BODY, SUPPORT FRANCIS COLLINS, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE CAREGIVERS WHO TREAT THE ALZHEIMER'S VICTIMS. IT IS AN URGENT PROBLEM WE MUST DEAL WITH TODAY. I THANK GLEN CAMPBELL FOR HIS COURAGE IN PERFORMING AND BRINGING MORE ATTENTION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD TO THIS TERRIBLE ILLNESS. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. DEFAZIO

    1, STUDENT INTEREST RATES ARE SET TO DOUBLE ON THEIR LOANS FROM 3.4% TO…

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    IN SUPPORT OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN SECURITY LANGUAGE THAT REPRESENTATIVE…

    IN SUPPORT OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN SECURITY LANGUAGE THAT REPRESENTATIVE TURNER INCLUDED IN HIS STRATEGIC FORCES SUBCOMMITTEE SECTION OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT.

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    MRS. MYRICK

    INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROCUREMENT AND SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT CONTINUE TO…

    INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROCUREMENT AND SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT CONTINUE TO BE A CLLLENG FOR BOTH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. CONGRESS MUST ENSURE THAT THOSE ENTITIES HAVE THE RESOURCES AND LEGAL AUTHORITY NECESSARY TO PREVENT CERTAIN COMPANIES FROM INSERTING POTENTIALLY MALICIOUS EQUIPMENT INTO VARIOUS SUPPLY CHAINS. THE THREATS AMPLIFY WHEN OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS CONSIDER STATE-OWNED AND CHINA OWNED COMPANIES BUSINESS PARTNERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT AN ARTICLE WHICH DEMONSTRATES THE CONCERN FOR THE E.T.A. CORPORATION. IT'S A CHINESE STATE-OWNED AND OPERATED COMPANY.

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    MS. SANCHEZ

    IN HONOR OF OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. I WANT TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT IS…

    IN HONOR OF OLDER AMERICANS MONTH. I WANT TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SENIORS, THAT IS CARING FOR SENIORS WITH CHRONIC ILLNESS AND PREVENTING UNNECESSARY HOSPITALIZATION. MADAM SPEAKER, HOME CARE PROVIDERS IN MY DISTRICT DELIVER HIGH QUALITY AND CLINICALLY EFFECTIVE CARE. AND SUCH CARE ENABLES SENIORS TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES RATHER THAN COSTING US BY PUTTING THEM OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND INTO NURSING HOMES. UNFORTUNATELY, A NARROW SLIVER OF OPERATORS WITHIN THE MEDICARE HOME HEALTH PROGRAM ARE TARNISHING THE GOOD WORK OF THESE DEDICATED, COMPASSIONATE, AND SKILLED PROFESSIONALS. MEDPACK HAS FOUND A SMALL NUMBER OF CRIMINALS IN JUST 25 COUNTIES ARE RIPPING OFF MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES AND TAXPAYERS. AND SINCE WE KNOW THE SOURCE OF THIS ABUSE, IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ISOLATE IT AND TO GO AFTER IT. RATHER THAN INDISCRIMINATELY CUTTING PAYMENTS TO THOUSANDS OF HOME CARE PROVIDERS THAT DO THE RIGHT THING BY SENIORS AND TAXPAYERS. SO LET'S REFORM THE WAY WE DO THIS. LET'S NOT CUT OFF THE PEOPLE WHO DO GOOD WORK.

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    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY FROM -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM MARYLAND RISE?

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    MS. EDWARDS

    TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. EDWARDS

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE TO HONOR THE 45TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DEDICATION…

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE TO HONOR THE 45TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DEDICATION OF THE CROSSON VOCATIONAL CENTER LOCATED IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, MARYLAND. ON APRIL 27, 1967, PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON DEDICATED THE CENTER AT CROSSLAND HIGH SCHOOL IN MARYLAND. PRESIDENT JOHNSON AS HE LANDED HIS HELICOPTER ON WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS PRESIDENTIAL FIELD, USED THE DEDICATION TO MARK THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SMITH-HUGHES ACT OF 1917 WHICH PROVIDED FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS AND HELPED SEPARATE WARDS FOR VOCATIONAL EDUCATION. PRESIDENT JOHNSON STATED, ONCE WE CONSIDERED EDUCATION A PUBLIC EXPENSE, WE NOW KNOW IT'S A PUBLIC INVESTMENT. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. THE WORLD WE LIVE IN HAS NEVER BEEN MORE COMPETITIVE AND OTHER COUNTRIES ARE MAKING INVESTMENTS IN THEIR SFRA, STATE AGENCIES. WE MUST DO THE SAME. WE MUST HAVE AN EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT PREPARES OUR CHILDREN FOR SUCCESS IN THE 21ST CENTURY. WE MUST DO THIS TO OUR COLLEAGUES AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH TRADE UNIONS GETTING VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS BY CROSSING VOCATIONAL CENTERS. FROM PRESIDENT JOHNSON'S EXHIBIT IN 1967 TO PRESIDENT OBAMA'S COMMITMENT, WE HAVE THE FUTURE. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. CARNAHAN

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    MS. HANABUSA

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE BEGUN THE DEBATE ON THE…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE BEGUN THE DEBATE ON THE NDAA AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS THE VAGSE THAT'S GOING TO SET FORTH OUR POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILITARY FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. YOU HAVE HEARD SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT PORTIONS OF THE NDAA, ALL POINTS WELL TAKEN. BUT I ASK THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. LET US LOOK AT THE NDAA IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN NOVEMBER OF 2012 WHEN HE ADDRESSED APEC, HE SAID, THE 21ST CENTURY IS FOR THE PACIFIC. AND WE ARE PIVOTING TO THE ASIA PACIFIC. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HE WENT ON TO SAY HOW THE 21ST CENTURY DOES AND HOW IT'S DEFINED, WHETHER ONE IN CONFLICT AND ONE IN CONTROVERSY IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY THE ARAB SHA PACIFIC -- ASIA PACIFIC REGION. WHAT DO WE NEED? WE NEED OUR ALLIES AND TRADE PARTNERS TO FEEL SAFE AND CONFIDENT AND GUESS WHAT? THEY LOOK TO OUR MILITARY FOR THAT. THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE NDAA CRITICALLY ADDRESSES. HOW THE MILITARY IS FOR THE 21ST CENTURY AND OUR PEACE IN THE PACIFIC WILL BE DETERMINED BY THEM. THANK YOU.

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    THANK YOU. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY WITH GREAT CONCERN OVER OUR DEFENSE…

    THANK YOU. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY WITH GREAT CONCERN OVER OUR DEFENSE BUDGET.

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  • 12:26:56 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    CRUSHING DEBT LOOMS AND YET WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE ISSUE. THE NATIONAL…

    CRUSHING DEBT LOOMS AND YET WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE ISSUE. THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION CAME IN AT $8 BILLION OVER THE BUDGET CONTROL ACT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE PUT BACK HIGH COST ITEMS THAT THE PENTAGON HAD NOT LISTED AS THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY. HOW IS THAT RESPONSIBLE SPENDING? WHEN THE ISSUE ARISES AS TO WHAT TO CUT, WHAT MUST MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK? WHAT WILL COME FIRST? WILL OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL ACCOUNT BE UNDER THE KNIFE? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT IS SMART LEGISLATING. WHEN WE CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE CURRENT FISCAL ENVIRONMENT. WHEN WE RAISE CONCERNS ON THE PLANS TO BUILD A MISSILE DEFENSE SITE ON THE EAST COAST WITH MONEY WE DO NOT HAVE, THE RULES COMMITTEE WILL NOT EVEN ALLOW IT UP FOR DEBATE. SHOULDN'T WE BE DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND OUR SERVICE MEMBERS ARE BEST SERVED? I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA SEEK RECOGNITION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 12:28:11 PM

    MR. YARMUTH

    PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. YARMUTH

    MADAM SPEAKER, IF SEEMS LIKE -- IT SEEMS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY ALL OVER…

    MADAM SPEAKER, IF SEEMS LIKE -- IT SEEMS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY ALL OVER AGAIN. EARLIER THIS WEEK G.O.P. LEADERS LAID DOWN A NEW GAMBIT ON THE OLD DEBATE WHETHER TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR NATION'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS. THEY HAVE ALREADY ABANDONED THE DEAL WE MADE ON THE LAST DEBT CEILING PACKAGE AND SHIFTING ALL THE CUTS TO EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OTHER VITAL DOMESTIC PROGRAMS. NOW THEY WANT ANOTHER ROUND OF UNSUSTAINABLE CUTS TO THESE PROGRAMS WHICH WILL THEN BRING US BACK TO THE BRINK OF DEFAULT. WE KNOW THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES, MARKET COLLAPSE, JOBS LOST, MORE THAN $1 TRILLION ADDED TO THE DEFICIT EVERY YEAR. INTEREST RATES WILL RISE. JUST GETTING CLOSE TO THIS CLIFF THREATENS THE U.S. CREDIT RATING. WE KNOW THAT FROM RECENT EXPERIENCE. THE SPEAKER HAS SAID THAT, NO, HE DOESN'T WANT TO ABANDON -- HE DOESN'T WANT TO -- THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO DEFAULT, ISN'T THIS THE SAME KIND OF UNCERTAINTY THAT OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS SAY THEY ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT? ONE DAY IT'S, WELL, WE ARE NOT GOING TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. THE NEXT DAY, NO, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT. WE NEED CERTAINTY. WE NEED STABILITY. WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THIS NATION'S OBLIGATIONS. YIELD BACK.

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  • 12:29:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE A MESSAGE.

  • 12:29:33 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, SECTION 202-D OF THE NATIONAL…

    TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, SECTION 202-D OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCIES ACT PROVIDES FOR THE AUTOMATIC TERMINATION OF A NATIONAL EMERGENCY UNLESS WITHIN 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ANNIVERSARY DATE OF ITS DECLARATION THE PRESIDENT PUBLISHES IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER AND TRANSMITS TO THE CONGRESS A NOTICE THAT THE EMERGENCY IS TO CONTINUE IN EFFECT BEYOND THE EMERGENCY ANNIVERSARY TATE. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS, I HAVE SENT TO THE FEDERAL REGISTER THE ENCLOSED NOTICE WITH RESPECT TO BURMA THAT WAS DECLARED ON MAY 20, 1997, IS TO CONTINUE IN EFFECT BEYOND MAY 20, 2012. THE BURMESE GOVERNMENT HAS MADE PROGRESS IN A THUMB OF AREAS, INCLUDING RELEASING A NUMBER OF POLITICAL PRISONERS, HOLDING CEASE FIRE TALKS AND HOLDING TALKS WITH BURMA'S PRO-DEMOCRACY PARTY. THE UNITED STATES IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING BURMA'S EFFORT BUT IT CONTINUES TO POSE A THREAT TO THE FOREIGN POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES. PURR BURMA HAS MADE -- BURMA HAS MADE IMPORTANT STRIDES BUT THE POLITICAL OPENING IS NASCENT AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS INCLUDING REMAINING POLITICAL PRISONERS, ONGOING CONFLICT, AND SERIOUS HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN ETHNIC AREAS. FOR THIS REASON, I HAVE DETERMINED IT IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO BURMA AND TO MAINTAIN IN FORCE THE SANCTIONS THAT RESPOND TO THIS THREAT. SIGNED, BARACK OBAMA, THE WHITE HOUSE, MAY 17, 2012.

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  • 12:31:10 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND ORDERED PRINTED. FOR WHAT…

    REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND ORDERED PRINTED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH SEEK RECOGNITION? MR. BISHOP BY DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES, I CALL UP HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.

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  • 12:31:28 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RESOLUTION.

  • 12:31:32 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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    >>

    YOU, I MAKE A POINT OF ORDER AGAINST THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION,…

    YOU, I MAKE A POINT OF ORDER AGAINST THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION VIOLATES CLAUSE 9 OF RULE 21 BY WAIVING THE RULE AGAINST CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 BY MR. MCKEON.

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  • 12:35:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT MAKES A POINT OF ORDER THAT THE RESOLUTION…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT MAKES A POINT OF ORDER THAT THE RESOLUTION VIOLATES CLAUSE 9-B OF RULE 21 AND UNDER CLAUSE 9-B OF RULE 21, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES OF DEBATE ON THE QUESTION. WILL THE HOUSE NOW CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION? THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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  • 12:35:33 PM

    MR. LARSON

    MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SMO FAMILIES OF OUR MEN AND…

    MADAM SPEAKER. I RISE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SMO FAMILIES OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN SERVICE WHO ARE IN NEED OF OUR HELP. I AM PROUD TO BE JOINED ON THE FLOOR THIS AFTERNOON BY MY DEAR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, WALTER JONES. I THINK, MADAM SPEAKER, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS JUST SIMPLY AS A LINE FROM "COOL HAND LUKE" IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE HONORABLE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHO ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PLIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE KENYON FAMILY I HAVE PICTURED HERE. I USE THIS PICTURE AND RISE ON THEIR BEHALF THAWS THESE ARE CONSTITUENTS OF MINE WHO BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A CONCERN. THAT WHILE MEN AND WOMEN DEPLOYED IN OUR ARMED SERVICES AND IN THIS CASE SERGEANT MAJOR WILLIAM KENDALL, DEPLOYED TWICE WHILE HIS DAUGHTER, RACHEL, DEALS WITH AUTISM. AUTISM IS NEAR EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTRY. AND FOR MILITARY FAMILIES ESPECIALLY, WHEN SOMEONE IS ABROAD IN THE SERVICE OF THEIR COUNTRY, IT'S HARD ENOUGH WHEN TWO PARENTS ARE AT HOME TO DEAL WITH AUTISM. IT'S EVEN MORE COMPLICATING WHEN A FATHER OR MOTHER IS AWAY FROM THEIR CHILD. SO WE HEARD FROM THOUSANDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS ACROSS THIS NATION AND IN THE PROCESS WE LEARNED HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS. WHAT THEY SEEK IS APPLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM, THERE'S A CAP THAT'S PLACED ON THIS. IMAGINE, YOU'RE THE MOTHER AT HOME. THIS LOVING MOTHER, RACHEL, WITH HER DAUGHTER RACHEL MARGARET, WITH CAPS IMPOSED ON THEM, CAN'T AFFORD, OR CAN'T GET THE SERVICE. THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHT TOWARD AND HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE COMMITTEE. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PROCESS, THIS IS WHERE I SAY THAT THERE IS MISCOMMUNICATION, THAT WHEN THE AGREED PAY-FOR WAS ASKED TO BE MODIFIED, IT INDEED WAS BUT THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN RULES AND THE COMMITTEE. I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT NOT ONLY MR. JONES, MR. BISHOP WHO IS HERE, MR. SESSIONS, WHO IS PART OF THE COMMITTEE, AND THE CAUCUS ON AUTISM, THE NUMBER OF LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE IN BOTH CAUCUSES CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THESE RESULTS. AS WE APPROACH MEMORIAL DAY, CERTAINLY WE WANT THE MESSAGE TO BE TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE FIELD, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL LEAVE NO SOLDIER BEHIND ON THE BATTLEFIELD, WE ALSO HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE WILL LEAVE NO CHILD BEHIND AT HOME. THIS IS A COMPELLING CASE THAT THE FAMILY MAKES ON BEHALF OF ALL AMERICANS, MEN AND WOMEN, WHO SERVED IN OUR MILITARY AND ONE THAT HAS BEEN UNDERSCORED BY MY DEAR FRIEND IN HIS EXPERIENCE AT CAMP LEJEUNE. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE WALTER JONES. AND YIELD HIM AS MUCH -- ONE MIN.

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  • 12:39:36 PM

    MR. JONES

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT. I WANT TO SAY TO BOTH PARTIES, HE…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT. I WANT TO SAY TO BOTH PARTIES, HE IS EXACTLY RIGHT. I HAVE CAMP LEJEUNE MARINE BASE IN MY DISTRICT. THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I HAVE MET WITH TWO DIFFERENT TIMES -- I HAVE MET TWO DIFFERENT TIMES WITH MARINE HUSBANDS AND WIVES AND THEIR AUTISTIC CHILDREN. IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. AS MR. LARSON HAS SAID, THIS WAS FIXED, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, THE COMMUNICATIONS BREAKS DOWN LIKE IT DOES TOO OFTEN HERE IN WASHINGTON AND AS MR. LARSON SAID, LET'S TRY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM TODAY, LET'S GET IT IN THE BASE BILL, LET'S SEND IT TO THE SENATE ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE CHILDREN WITH AUTISM. PLEASE, GOD, LET US FIX THIS FOR THOSE FAMILIES AND I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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  • 12:40:28 PM

    MR. LARSON

    ARE YOU YIELDING TIME TO ME?

  • 12:43:13 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YOU YIELDING TIME TO ME?

  • 12:43:26 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YOU START THE COLLOQUY? I DON'T HAVE THE BEST ANSWER RIGHT NOW.

  • 12:43:33 PM

    MR. LARSON

    A REMEDY WE CAN HAVE THROUGH THE RULES COMMITTEE AND RATHER THAN PUT THE…

    A REMEDY WE CAN HAVE THROUGH THE RULES COMMITTEE AND RATHER THAN PUT THE BODY THROUGH A SERIES OF VOTES, IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE OF COGNIZANCE, THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, I KNOW RANKING MEMBER SMITH IS HERE AND CERTAINLY WE'LL WORK WITH AND STRIVE TO CORRECT THIS ANOMALY THAT HAS OCCURRED AND I BELIEVE THAT LIKE MINDED PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WANT TO SEE THIS SUCCEED.

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  • 12:44:08 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    IF -- WHAT I SUGGEST, IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD RESERVE THE BALANCE OF HIS…

    IF -- WHAT I SUGGEST, IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD RESERVE THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. LET ME SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, THEN WE CAN PROCEED FROM THAT POINT IF THAT'S OK.

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  • 12:44:22 PM

    MR. LARSON

    THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 12:44:26 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    OF DIFFERENT LEVELS ON WHICH WE NEED TO RESPOND. I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT…

    OF DIFFERENT LEVELS ON WHICH WE NEED TO RESPOND. I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT AS WELL AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA ON THIS ISSUE. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EMPATHY ON THIS ISSUE. THERE IS THE TECHNICAL APPROACH ABOUT WHICH THIS RULE DEALS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL OF HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THAT FACT. THE FIRST ONE, AS TO THE SPECIFICS OF THIS, AND AS I PUT THEM, OBVIOUSLY, CLAIM THE TIME IN FAVOR OF THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION, THE QUESTION BEFORE THE HOUSE IS, SHOULD THE HOUSE NOW CONSIDER HOUSE RESOLUTION 661? AND WHILE THE RESOLUTION WAIVES ALL POINTS OF ORDER AGAINST THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF THE SUBSTITUTE THE COMMITTEE IS NOT AWARE OF ANY POINTS OF ORDER AND THE WAIVERS ARE PROPHYLACTIC IN NATURE. CHAIRMAN MCKEON HAS FILE AND EARMARK STATEMENT REGARDING HIS MANAGER'S AMENDMENT. THERE IS THE ABILITY, THOUGH, OF OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT HAS DEVELOPED, WHETHER IT'S FROM MISCOMMUNICATION OR NOT. FROM MY POSITION AS MANAGING THIS PARTICULAR RULE, I CANNOT COMMIT TO THAT. BUT I AM AWARE AND I'M SURE THE COMMITTEE IS OBVIOUSLY RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE STEPS IN WHICH WE GO FORWARD. THE SENATE STILL HAS TO PRODUCE A PIECE OF WORK, HAS TO GO TO A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, AT ANY OF THOSE STEPS ALONG THE WAY THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY OF TRYING TO FIND A GOOD SOLUTION TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. . THOUGH I CAN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT ON MY PART, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE. I'LL RESERVE MY TIME.

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  • 12:46:06 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES HIS TIME.

  • 12:46:08 PM

    MR. LARSON

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, AND I KNOW THAT HE IS A MAN OF GREAT…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, AND I KNOW THAT HE IS A MAN OF GREAT INTEGRITY AND RESPECT. I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA THAT IS -- HE IS PLACED IN IN TERMS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND HOPE, AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE OF COGNIZANCE, BECAUSE WE DO THINK WITH SO MANY PEOPLE HAVING SIGNED ON TO THIS BILL, AND SO MANY PEOPLE WATCHING, AND KNOWING THAT THERE WAS GOOD FAITH AGREEMENTS ON ALL SIDES, AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT P FINGER POINTING OR BLAME -- ABOUT FINGER POINTING OR BLAME, IT'S ABOUT HELPING THESE KIDS OUT AND THESE FAMILIES OUT. EVEN I'M NOT HERE TO OBSTRUCT THE PROCESS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I RAISE THE POINT OF ORDER SO I'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE KENONS NOT ABOUT THE POINT OF ORDER. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TOOL THAT I HAD AVAILABLE TO ME, BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO PROCEED DOWN THE ROAD -- AND I KNOW THAT I WILL BE JOINED BY MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE THE WILL OF THE HOUSE BE KNOWN AND NOT RELY ON THE SENATE IN THE PROCESS OF CONFERENCE.

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  • 12:47:20 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

  • 12:47:22 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA.

  • 12:47:25 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT, WE HAD HEARINGS FOR…

    I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT, WE HAD HEARINGS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS ON THE AUTISM ISSUE, AND WHILE I'M NOT GOING TO SQUEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION -- SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IT IS A REAL TRAGEDY THAT WE ARE FACING IN THIS COUNTRY.

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  • 12:47:43 PM

    MR. BURTON

    TO HAVE ONE IN 10,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE AUTISTIC AND NOW IT'S ONE IN 88. IT'S…

    TO HAVE ONE IN 10,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE AUTISTIC AND NOW IT'S ONE IN 88. IT'S A EPIDEMIC. THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A RECOURSE FOR THE PARENTS. THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY. IT'S GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND ALL THE STATES A TON OF MONEY. SO WE HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS AND GET IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN RAISING THE ISSUE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HIS POSITION, BUT IF I COULD WORK WITH YOU IN ANY WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM, I HOPE YOU'LL CONTACT ME.

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  • 12:48:16 PM

    MR. LARSON

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A WAY --

  • 12:48:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 12:48:28 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AT THIS TIME I AM LIMITED TO THE KINDS OF RESPONSES…

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AT THIS TIME I AM LIMITED TO THE KINDS OF RESPONSES FOR WHICH I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANNOUNCE HERE. ONCE AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EMPATHY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND I'M SURE AS WE GO ALONG THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS BILL, THIS ISSUE AND SOME OTHERS MAY BE HAVING -- BE ABLE TO BE WORKED OUT IN OTHER VENUES. AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, THOUGH, THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS WHICH WE HAVE PROCEDURALLY ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND THIS ISSUE, AS I SAID, HAS HAD THE STATEMENT BY CHAIRMAN MCKEON AS TO THE AMENDMENTS. HIS STATEMENT WAS SIMPLY AS FOLLOWS, THE AMENDMENTS TO BE OFFERED BY REPRESENTATIVE MCKEON TO H.R. 4310 AND THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013, DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY CONGRESSIONAL EARMARKS, LIMITED TAX BENEFITS, OR LIMITED TARIFF BENEFITS AS DEFINED IN CLAUSE 9 UNDER RULE 21. SO WITH THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN WHICH WE HAVE TO DO PROCEDURALLY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. REALIZING THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE COME TO A FINAL CONCLUSION. SO IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE HOUSE TO CONTINUE ITS SCHEDULED BUSINESS FOR THE DAY, I WOULD URGE MEMBERS TO VOTE YES ON THE QUESTION OF CONSIDERATION OF THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE 141 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN ORDER AND THEN TALK ABOUT PROCEDURALLY HOW SOME OTHERS THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN AT SOME OTHER TIME. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:50:04 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE HOIST NOW CONSIDERING THE RESOLUTION. SO MANY AS ARE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE QUESTION OF CONSIDERATION IS DECIDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

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  • 12:50:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. THE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 12:50:28 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    SPEAKER, HOW CAN I GO ABOUT AMENDING THE RESOLUTION SUCH THAT THE…

    SPEAKER, HOW CAN I GO ABOUT AMENDING THE RESOLUTION SUCH THAT THE AMENDMENT THAT I AND WALTER--CONGRESSMAN WALTER JONES AUTHORED TO H.R. 4310 REGARDING THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN CAN BE MADE IN ORDER?

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  • 12:50:40 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    AT THIS POINT THE AMENDMENT COULD BE OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH OR…

    AT THIS POINT THE AMENDMENT COULD BE OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH OR A MEMBER TO WHOM HE YIELDS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

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  • 12:50:48 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE RESOLUTION BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE…

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE RESOLUTION BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE MCGOVERN-JONES-SMITH ON AFGHANISTAN.

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  • 12:50:56 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH YIELD FOR A UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST?

  • 12:51:02 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    MADAM SPEAKER, FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. IS IT TRUE THE RULE CAN BE…

    MADAM SPEAKER, FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. IS IT TRUE THE RULE CAN BE AMENDED ON THE FLOOR?

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  • 12:51:11 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH OFFERS AN AMENDMENT OR YIELDS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUISHERY. IS IT TRUE THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH COULD…

    FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUISHERY. IS IT TRUE THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH COULD YIELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF A UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST TO AMEND THE RULE?

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  • 12:51:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    QUESTION, THAT IS CORRECT.

  • 12:51:26 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    IS IT TRUE THE GENTLEMAN IS CONTINUING TO PREVENT THE HOUSE FROM DEBATING…

    IS IT TRUE THE GENTLEMAN IS CONTINUING TO PREVENT THE HOUSE FROM DEBATING ON THE MCGOVERN-JONES AMENDMENT --

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  • 12:51:37 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS NOT STATING A PROPER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS NOT STATING A PROPER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE HOUR.

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  • 12:51:43 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSES OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30…

    YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. FOR PURPOSES OF DEBATE ONLY, I YIELD THE CUSTOMARY 30 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MCGOVERN, PENDING WHICH I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. DURING CONSIDERATION OF THIS RESOLUTION, ALL TIME YIELDED IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEBATE ONLY. I FURTHER ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS.

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  • 12:52:13 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    MADAM SPEAKER, THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES FOR A STRUCTURED RULE FOR THE…

    MADAM SPEAKER, THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES FOR A STRUCTURED RULE FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 4310, THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2003. PROVIDES FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN ORDER PURSUANT TO THE RULE. I'M ACTUALLY PLEASED TO STAND BEFORE THE HOUSE ON THIS ONE AS WELL AS THE UNDERLYING BASE BILL WHICH WAS APPROVED IN RULE YESTERDAY AND WAS DEBATED BEFORE THIS -- ON THIS FLOOR. IT SIGNIFIES THE HARD WORK OF THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, MR. MCKEON, AS WELL AS THE RANKING MEMBER, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON STATE, MR. SMITH, AND THE COMPLEX OF WIDE RANGING BILLS THAT GO TO THE FLOOR FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS SO NICE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BILL, AND THE RELATIONSHIP OF THIS COMMITTEE IS THEIR TRADITION OF WORKING TOGETHER ACROSS THE AISLE IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER. IT WAS DONE AGAIN THIS YEAR IN COMMITTEE. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THAT POLICY RETAINS ITSELF HERE ON THE FLOOR AS WELL. MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID REGARDING H.R. 4310. THIS PARTICULAR RULE NOW ALLOWS AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED TO THAT. REALIZING THAT EVERY ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WAS HANDLED UNDER REGULAR ORDER IN A SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE MARK, AND THEN A FULL COMMITTEE HEARING WHICH LASTED FOR OVER TWO DAYS GOING WAY INTO THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING, WE ARE NOW -- WE HAVE NOW BEEN REQUESTED, THE RULES COMMITTEE, TO CONSIDER 240 ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS WE NEED TO STOP TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AT EVERY LEVEL AND GO ON WITH THE WORK THAT MOVES US FORWARD TO A PRODUCT. THE RULES COMMITTEE IN AN EFFORT TO TRY AND BE AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE MADE IN ORDER 141 OF THE 240 REQUESTS. OF THOSE 141, 49 WERE REPUBLICAN, BUT 63 WERE DEMOCRATS AMENDMENTS, AND 29 WERE BIPARTISAN AMENDMENTS. IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN PROCESS AND A PROCESS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A WIDE RANGE OF DEBATE, SOME OF WHICH, HOPEFULLY ALL OF WHICH, WILL IN SOME WAY BE DIRECTED TO THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL WHICH IS TO PROVIDE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MILITARY DEFENSE OF THIS COUNTRY AND PROVIDE WHAT OUR MILITARY SHAPE WILL APPEAR TO BE. THERE MAY BE SOME EFFORTS TO TRY AND GO WITH OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE RELATED BUT NOT DIRECTLY TO THE CORE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS BILL, WHICH IS TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR MILITARY. BUT IT IS A FAIR RULE AND IT IS A GOOD RULE WHICH MAKES LOTS OF AMENDMENTS IN ORDER AND WHICH MAKES LOTS OF DEMOCRAT AMENDMENTS IN ORDER AND BIPARTISAN AMENDMENTS IN ORDER WITH ALSO A FEW REPUBLICAN AMENDMENTS IN ORDER AS WELL. WITH THAT AS I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS RULE, I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 12:55:11 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 12:55:14 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH FOR YIELDING ME…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH FOR YIELDING ME THE CUSTOMARY 30 MINUTES. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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  • 12:55:22 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 12:55:26 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    MADAM SPEAKER, LET ME BEGIN BY COMMENDING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE ARMED…

    MADAM SPEAKER, LET ME BEGIN BY COMMENDING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, MR. MCKEON, AND THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. SMITH OF WASHINGTON, FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS BILL. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED THESE TWO GENTLEMEN DEMONSTRATE THAT DESPITE STRONG DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER. AND THAT IS TO BE COMMENDED. UNFORTUNATELY, MADAM SPEAKER, THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID OF THE RULES COMMITTEE. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS RULE. LAST NIGHT, LATE AT NIGHT, THE RULES COMMITTEE MADE IN ORDER SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THE DEFENSE BILL. WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF THEM HERE. BUT MANY OTHER AMENDMENTS ON IMPORTANT, SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES, WERE DENIED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEBATE. AMONG THOSE BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT ON AFGHANISTAN, SUBMITTED BY MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES, CONGRESSMAN WALTER JONES AND RON PAUL, MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUE, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, CONGRESSMAN SMITH OF WASHINGTON, AND MYSELF, AND IN FACT THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE ASKED THAT AN AMENDMENT HE HAD BE WITHDRAWN SO HE COULD SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. JONES AND I BROUGHT BEFORE THE RULES COMMITTEE. IN BRIEF IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE PRESIDENT TO FULFILL HIS COMMITMENTS TO TRANSITION ALL COMBAT OPERATIONS TO AFGHAN AUTHORITY NO LATER THAN THE END OF 2013 AND COMPLETE THE TRANSITION OF ALL MILITARY AND SECURITY OPERATIONS BY THE END OF 2014. ANYTHING BEYOND 2014 SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS. THE MCGOVERN-JONES-SMITH-PAUL AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE REPLACED SECTION 1216 IN THIS BILL WHICH RETAINS AT LEAST 68,000 TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN UNTIL 2015, AND THEN ADVOCATES A ROBUST MILITARY PRESENCE BEYOND THAT DATE. MADAM SPEAKER, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT DESERVES A SERIOUS DEBATE. BUT THE RULES COMMITTEE SAID NO. THEY REFUSE TO MAKE OUR AMENDMENT IN ORDER, AND WHY NOT, MADAM SPEAKER? WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AFRAID OF? ARE THEY AFRAID A BIPARTISAN MAJORITY OF THIS HOUSE WILL VOTE TO FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND CHANGE OUR AFGHANISTAN POLICY? MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR IN AFGHANISTAN SINCE 2001. THIS IS THE LONGEST WAR IN AMERICAN HISTORY. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL HAVE GONE INTO DEBT TO THE TUNE OF NEARLY $500 BILLION TO FINANCE THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. ALL OF IT BORROWED MONEY. ALL OF IT ON THE NATIONAL CREDIT CARD, NOT A SINGLE PENNY OF IT PAID FOR. AND THAT INCLUDES THE $88.5 MILLION IN THIS BILL. OVER 15,000 OF OUR BRAVE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE BEEN WOUNDED. AND THE DEATH TOLL OF OUR TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN HAS NOW REACHED 1,968. THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW AS U.S. FORCES RECEIVE LESS COOPERATION FROM PAKISTAN AND ARE SUBJECT TO INCREASING ATTACKS FROM THE AFGHAN -- FROM AFGHAN GOVERNMENT TROOPS SERVING ALONGSIDE THEM. THE DEATH TOLL NUMBERS DO NOT INCLUDE THE SOARING RATE OF SUICIDE BY OUR RETURNING WAR VETERANS, BUT THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP OF THIS HOUSE DOES NOT THINK WE SHOULD DEBATE AN AMENDMENT THAT ADVOCATES A DIFFERENT APPROACH. THAT IS SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS, MADAM SPEAKER. EVERY WING SINGLE ONE OF US, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US IN THIS CHAMBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING OUR BRAVE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN IN HARM'S WAY. AND TO DISALLOW AN AMENDMENT, TO DISALLOW THIS KIND OF DEBATE THAT WOULD HELP CHANGE OUR POLICY, I THINK IS OUTRAGEOUS. I'M GLAD THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE FINALLY, FINALLY MADE IN ORDER ONE AFGHANISTAN AMENDMENT SUBMITTED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA LEE. THIS AMENDMENT CALLS FOR THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND EXPEDITIOUS WITHDRAWAL OF OUFER FORCES FROM AFGHANISTAN AND FINALLY ALLOW MEMBERS OF THIS BODY TO VOTE ON WHETHER IT IS TIME TO BRING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME RIGHT NOW FROM AFGHANISTAN. LAST NIGHT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE RULES COMMITTEE TOLD ME I SHOULD BE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY WERE MAKING THAT ONE AMENDMENT ON AFGHANISTAN IN ORDER. AND IT WAS GOING TO RECEIVE A WHOLE 20 MINUTES OF DEBATE. 20 MINUTES FOR DEBATE ON THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. JUST 10 MINUTES FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAR. ARE WE REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT? ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT? POLL AFTER POLL REVEAL THAT A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS, AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE NOW SUPPORT ENDING U.S. MILITARY OPERATIONS IN AFGHANISTAN AND BRINGING OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN HOME. WINDING THE WAR DOWN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IS A BIPARTISAN ISSUE, MR. SPEAKER. IT HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THIS HOUSE AND IT HAS BEEN GRANTED JUST 20 LOUSY MINUTES OF DEBATE. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ANY MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE THINKS THAT 20 MINUTES IS ENOUGH TIME TO DEBATE THE LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. . WE SPENT 40 MINUTES IN THIS HOUSE ON BILLS NAMING P -- NAMING POST OFFICES. AND THAT'S FINE. BUT THE LONGEST WAR IN U.S. HISTORY, ONLY HALF OF THAT? TALK ABOUT MISPLACED PRIORITIES. THE ONLY AMENDMENT MADE IN ORDER ABOUT THE WAR, I URGE SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT. OTHERWISE THEY CALL FOR TROOPS TO REMAIN INDEFINITELY. THIS IS A BILL THAT WOULD MANDATE THAT OUR TROOPS -- THAT OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM STAY THERE INDEFINITELY. THE RULES COMMITTEE ALSO DENIED CONGRESSMAN GARAMENDI'S AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THE FUNDING TO CONSTRUCT AN EAST COAST STAR WARS FANTASY BASE. THE DEFENSE BILL PROVIDES $100 MILLION IN STARTUP MONEY FOR THE EAST COAST BASE AND BRING IT INTO OPERATION BY 2015 WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER $5 BILLION. JUST LAST WEEK, ARMY GENERAL MARTIN DEMPSEY, CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, SAID THE SITE IS NOT NEEDED, THE PENTAGON DOESN'T WANT IT, MR. SPEAKER. I THINK $5 BILLION IS LOWBALLING THE COST. A SIMILAR BASE ON THE WEST COAST HAS NOW COST US UPWARDS OF $30 BILLION. WHY SHOULDN'T WE HAVE SUCH A DEBATE ON AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSAL LIKE THAT? IS ALL THE REPUBLICAN TALK ABOUT COST CUTTING AND PUTTING OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER AS BIG A FANTASY AS THE SILLY STAR WARS PROPOSAL? A AND WHERE ARE THE EXTRA BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING FROM? WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, WE HAD THE DEBATE LAST WEEK. IT'S COMING FROM PROGRAMS TO HELP HARD WORKING FAMILIES AND THE SAFETY NET THAT KEEPS THOSE FAMILIES FROM FALLING INTO POVERTY. IT'S COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO MAKE SURE SENIORS AND THE WORKING POOR CAN AT LEAST PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. -- AND SEE A DOCTOR WHEN THEY'RE PSYCH. -- WHEN THEY'RE SICK. IT'S TAKEN FROM PROGRAMS THAT ARE THE LIFE BLOOD OF OUR CITIES, STATES, AND TOWNS. MADAM SPEAKER THIS BILL COSTS $642.7 BILLION. TOO MANY AMENDMENTS TO REDUCE THE COST WERE DENIED BY THE REPUBLICAN RULES COMMITTEE. IN REAL TERMS, DEFENSE SPENDING IS 20% HIGHER THAN THE COLD WAR BUDGET AND DOUBLE THE AMOUNT WE WERE SPENDING A DECADE AGO. MADAM SPEAKER, WE HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE GREATEST, STRONGEST MILITARY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. BUT AT SOME POINT, NATIONAL SECURITY MEANS MORE THAN THROWING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT PIE IN THE SKY STAR WARS PROGRAMS THAT WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE. IT MEANS TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE, EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN, IT MEANS AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ISN'T CRUMBLING AROUND US. IT MEANS CLEAN AIR AND WATER. IT MEANS CREATING JOBS SO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY CANS THRIVED ON OUR VETERANS CAN FIND DECENT WORK WHEN THEY RETURN HOME. THESE MUST BE OUR PRIORITIES. MADAM SPEAKER, LET ME CONCLUDE BY QUOTING PRESIDENT DWIGHT EISENHOWER, A SPEECH HE MADE IN 1953, AND I QUOTE, EVERY GUN THAT IS MADE, EVERY WARSHIP LAUNCHED, SIGNIFIES A STEP FROM THOSE WHO HUNGER AND ARE NOT FED, THOSE WHO ARE COLD AND NOT CLOTHED, END QUOTE. HIS WORDS RESONATE WITH US TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP OF THIS HOUSE REFUSES TO HEAD THEM. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, VOTE THIS RULE DOWN. THIS IS AN UNFAIR RULE. IT DOESN'T DESERVE TO GO FORWARD. WE OUGHT TO HAVE A REAL DEBATE ON AFGHANISTAN AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WILL STAND WITH ME. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 01:04:02 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    AS WE DISCUSS THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO A BILL WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO…

    AS WE DISCUSS THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO A BILL WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR SERVICES AND HOW THEY WILL FUNCTION, NOT NECESSARILY EVERY KIND OF TANGENTIAL ISSUE, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD AS MUCH TIME AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL RULES COMMITTEE, MR. DREIER OF CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. DREIER

    ME BEGIN BY THANKING MY FRIEND FOR HIS SUPERB MANAGEMENT OF THIS VERY…

    ME BEGIN BY THANKING MY FRIEND FOR HIS SUPERB MANAGEMENT OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT RULE. I'M HAPPEN PIP TO SEE MY VERY GOOD FRIEND AND VERY THOUGHTFUL COLLEAGUE FROM WASHINGTON, THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ARMED SERVICES HERE, I KNOW MR. MCKEON AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN HERE AS WELL. I WANT TO EXTEND APPRECIATION TO THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN PUTTING TOGETHER A BIPARTISAN PACKAGE WHICH WILL DEAL WITH WHAT I ARGUE IS THE ONE THING ONLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN DO. MR. SMITH AND I HAD AN EXCHANGE IN THE RULE COMMITTEES ON THIS, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES THAT ARE VERY GOOD. THERE ARE MANY THINGS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I ARGUE THAT MOST OF THE THINGS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES CAN, NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY MUST, BUT CAN BE HANDLED BY OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT OR INDIVIDUALS OR CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR NATION'S SECURITY, ONLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE ABILITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DEAL WITH THAT. I ARGUE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION, THE FIVE MOST IMPORTANT WORDS ARE RIGHT SMACK-DAB IN THE MIDDLE. THEY ARE PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS EFFORT. AND AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A RULE THAT IS NOT PERFECT, I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO MY FRIEND FROM WORCESTER, THE FLOOR MANAGER ON THE MINORITY SIDE, FOR THIS RULE IN ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE HAVE MADE IN ORDER AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR DEBATE ON THIS ISSUE, THE AMENDMENT OF MY CALIFORNIA COLLEAGUE, BARBARA LEE, HE'S ENCOURAGING SUPPORT FOR THAT AMENDMENT, I UNDERSTAND HE'S DISAPPOINTED HIS AMENDMENT WAS NOT MADE IN ORDER, BUT MADAM SPEAKER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAD 243 AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED TO THE RULES COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL AND WE HAVE A CHALLENGE OF TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, WHICH HAPPENS UNDER BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, PUTTING TOGETHER A RULE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A FREE FLOWING DEBATE AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS TO CAST UP OR DOWN VOTES ON THE ISSUES THAT RELATE TO THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL. AND WE HAVE DONE JUST THAT. 142 OF THE 243 AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE IN ORDER. 66% OF THE AMENDMENTS MADE IN ORDER HAVE BEEN OFFERED BY DEMOCRATS OR IN A BIPARTISAN WAY. SO THE NOTION OF SAYING SOMEHOW THAT THE MAJORITY IS NOT ALLOWING FOR DEBATE ON ANY ISSUE, INCLUDING AFGHANISTAN IS A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT THIS RULE DOES. I WILL SAY MY FRIEND IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARILY LONG WAR, THE LONGEST WAR WE'VE FACED, IT'S A WAR THAT'S ONGOING, A WAR AGAINST RADICAL EXTREMISM, WE KNOW THAT. PEOPLE ASK, WHAT SIT THAT IS OUR MISSION IN AFGHANISTAN, REGULARLY. I THINK AS WE POINT OUT WHAT THAT IS, TO ME IT'S OBVIOUS. IT'S ENSURING THAT NEITHER THE TALIBAN NOR AL QAEDA ARE IN A POSITION TO POSE A THROAT -- A THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OUR INTERESTS AND PEACE LOVING PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE 1980'S, WHEN WE SAW THE DEMISE OF THE SOVIET UNION AND WE SAW OBVIOUSLY AN EFFORT IN THE EARLY PART OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE 1990'S, WE SAW THE TALIBAN RE-EERGE, AND WE SAW THREATS THAT -- RE-EMERGE, AND WE SAW THREATS THAT EXISTED FROM ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD, NAIROBI, KENYA, THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK IN 1993, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE LITANY OF THESE ATTACKS. WE HAVE AS A GOAL ENSURING THAT THE KINDS OF THREATS WE FACED NEVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN. THAT'S WHY IT IS WE ARE THERE. HAS IT WORKED OUT PERFECTLY? ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NATION THAT IS WAR-WEARY. I, MADAM SPEAKER, AM WAR-WEARY. I WANT TO BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN HOME. AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS WE ARE THERE AND I THINK WORKING IN A BIPARTISAN WAY, WE CAN GET WHERE WE ALL ULTIMATELY WANT TO BE. WE DO SHARE THE GOAL OF A STABLE, SAFE, FREE, PEACEFUL WORLD. THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE AS A NATION HAVE STOOD FIRMLY COMMITTED TO OUR NATION'S DEFENSE CAPABILITY. SO, MADAM SPEAKER, I EWOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A RULE THAT IS NOT PERFECT, DOESN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, BUT IT WILL ALLOW, TODAY AND TOMORROW, FOR US TO HAVE A FREE-FLOWING DEBATE, MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS CONSTITUTIONALLY VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE OF PROVIDING FOR OUR COMMON DEFENSE AND WITH THAT, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 01:09:40 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH.

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  • 01:09:48 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    CAN'T REWALL IN 16 YEARS OF CONGRESS FER SPEAKING AGAINST A RULE. BY AND…

    CAN'T REWALL IN 16 YEARS OF CONGRESS FER SPEAKING AGAINST A RULE. BY AND LARGE I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY HAS THE RIGHT TO SET THE TERMS OF DEBAFMENTE I UNDERSTAND WE CANNOT ENDLESSLY DEBATE EVERY ISSUE, YOU HAVE TO SET CERTAIN PARAMETERS ON IT AND MOVE FORWARD. BUT THIS RULE GOES SO AGAINST THE PRINCIPLES OF HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DEBATE THE ARMED SERVICES BILL, AND I'VE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO BE ON THAT DEME FOR 16 YEARS, THAT I HAVE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS RULE. IT IS NOT ALLOWING US TO HAVE OUR POSITION ON THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT FACES OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, THE FUTURE OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, NOT ALLOWING US TO HAVE OUR POSITION DEBATED AND VOTED ON ON THE FLOOR. NOW I HAD AN AMENDMENT ON AFGHANISTAN IN THE COMMITTEE. IT WAS NOT ALLOWED EERLT BECAUSE OF REFERRAL RULES. THE COMMITTEE GETS ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING RULES THAT EVEN THOUGH THE BASE BILL HAD A DISCUSSION OF AFGHANISTAN POLICY MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE AMENDMENT WAS NOT ALLOWED. SO WE SAID OK, WE'LL HAVE THE DEBATE ON THE FLOOR. I WORKED WITH P MR. MCGOVERN AND OTHER, I TOLE THE RULE COMMITTEES, THIS IS OUR AMENDMENT ON AFGHANISTAN. AND IT WAS NOT ALLOWED IN ORDER. THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS ALLOWED IN ORDER BY MS. LEE SIMPLY SAYS GET OUT. THERE'S A HUGE DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT POLICY AND THE POLICY OF THE MAJORITY WHICH IS, AS MANY TROOPS FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS THE POSITION THAT MR. MCGOVERN PUT FORWARD AT THE RULES COMMITTEE, ASKED THE RULES COMMITTEE TO RULE IN ORDER AND THEY DENIED US THE RIGHT TO DEBATE THAT AMENDMENT AND VOTE ON IT. SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING OUR ARMED FORCES RIGHT NOW, THE MINORITY'S POSITION WAS EXECUTED FROM THIS DEBATE. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. CLOSE TO 70% OF THE COUNTRY WANTS US OUT OF AFGHANISTAN QUICKER. THE MAJORITY'S POSITION IS MORE TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. OUR POSITION IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE. GET US OUT AS SOON AS WE WE RESPONSEABLY CAN TO MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS ON COUNTERTERRORISM BUT TO DO SO WITHOUT AN EXTENDED TROOP PRESENCE. OUR POSITION IS CLEARLY WHERE THE COUNTRY IS. THE MAJORITY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT DEBATE. SO THEY FROZE OUT OUR AMENDMENT. NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATES THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MAJORITY YOU'D JUST AS SOON NOT HAVE, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RIGHTS OF MINORITY, THAT'S WHY PARTICULARLY ON THE ARMED SERVICES BILL I TELL EVERYONE IT'S THE MOST BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE IN CONGRESS. LET ME JUST SAY, MY BEEF IS NOT WITH CHAIRMAN MCKEON. HE HAS WORKED WITH ME IN AN OPEN AND HONEST MANNER, HE TESTIFIED THAT MY AMENDMENT SHOULD BE RULED IN ORDER. YET IT WAS NOT. THIS IS A CRITICALLY, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE. THEY DENIED US THE RIGHT TO DEBATE IT, THEY DENIED US THE RIGHT TO PUT OUR POSITION ON THE FLOOR, HAVE A DEBATE AND HAVE A VOTE ON THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, ON THE ARMED SERVICES BILL. THERE IS NO MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE. THEY WERE AFRAID OF THE DEBATE, AFRAID THAT THEY'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE. SO THEY DENIED THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE THE RIGHT TO DEBATE IT AND VOTE ON IT. I CAN THINK OF NO GREATER REASON TO VOTE DOWN A RULE THAN THAT. IT IS A SHAMEFUL WAY TO DEAL WITH THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE BILL. I URGE THIS BODY TO VOTE NO.

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    MR. BISHOP

    MADAM SPEAKER, AT SOME POINT I WILL MAKE SOME COMMENTS AS TO THE HISTORY…

    MADAM SPEAKER, AT SOME POINT I WILL MAKE SOME COMMENTS AS TO THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO BUT I'D LIKE TO GET A FEW OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE AMENDMENTS BEFORE US COVERED BEFORE WE COLLAPSE INTO WHAT APPEARS THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND DOES YOMAN'S WORK WITH OUR -- YEOMAN'S WORK WITH OUR COMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    SPEAKER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE…

    SPEAKER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT AND THIS RULE. THIS RULE IS A REFLECTION OF THE COMMITTEE'S AIM TO SUPPORT THE NATION AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM.

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  • 01:14:06 PM

    MR. TURNER

    THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO ME, SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY AND…

    THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO ME, SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY AND PROTECTING THE PARENTAL RIGHTS OF THOSE DEPLOYED. I LOOK TO THANK HIS PROFESSIONAL STAFF, JOHN AND JEANETTE WHO HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS LEGISLATION. THIS YEAR'S BILL CONTAINS SEVERAL PROVISIONS THAT AIM TO IMPROVE MILITARY CULTURE AND CLIMATE AS IT RELATES TO SEXUAL ASSAULT. INCLUDED ARE PROVISIONS THAT IRE THE DISPOSITION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES AT A HIGHER LEVEL AUTHORITY THAN CURRENTLY REQUIRED. IT ALSO REQUIRES THE CREATION OF SPECIAL VICTIMS UNITS THAT SPECIALIZE IN INVESTIGATION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES. A SEXUAL ASSAULT ADVISORY COUNCIL WILL BE CREATED TO BRING IN EXPERTS TO ADVISE THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND THEIR SEXUAL ASSAULT AND PREVENTION OFFICE ON SEXUAL ASSAULT POLICY. THESE PROVISIONS BUILD UPON THE YEARS OF BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE WORK. TODAY'S MILITARY HAS SUSTAINED THE LONGEST WAR IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY WITH AN ALL-VOLUNTEER FORCE. BOTH MEN AND WOMEN HAVE LEFT THEIR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AT HOME AND SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES FOR OUR COUNTRY IN ORDER TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER AND SAFER PLACE. YET MANY OF THESE SAME SERVICE MEMBERS FACE THE TERROR OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WITHIN THEIR RANKS. TO COMBAT THIS WE INCLUDED A PROVISION TO ESTABLISH A SEXUAL ASSAULT PREVENTION OFFICE AND TO MAKE VICTIM ADVOCATES MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN AFFECTED BY THIS TERRIBLE CRIME. WE HAVE MADE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN VICTIMS AND ADVOCATES PRIVILEGED. IN THE PAST, THESE COULD HAVE BEEN USED AGAINST THEM IN COURT. WE MANDATED THAT THEY HAVE THE RANK OF GENERAL OFFICER TO HAVE THE RANK NECESSARY TO CONSIDER CARRY OUT RESPONSIBILITIES INHERENT IN THE POSITION. WE REQUIRED THAT THEY BE MADE STANDING ORDERS AND THAT OFFICIALS BE NOTIFIED WHEN A PROTECTIVE ORDER IS ISSUED. WE ALSO -- IT IS OUR INTENT THAT THESE NEW LAWS EMPOWER SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS AND MAKE THE ARMED SERVICES A SAFER PLACE FOR ALL WHO SERVE. I WANT TO THANK MARY IN MY COMMUNITY WHO LOST HER DAUGHTER WHO WAS MURDERED BY A FELLOW MARINE AFTER MAKING A SEXUAL ASSAULT COMPLAINT. ANOTHER ISSUE, CHILD SUPPORT. STATE COURTS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE A SERVICE MEMBERS PRIOR DEPLOYMENTS OR THE POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE DEPLOYMENTS WHEN MAKING CHILD CUSTODY DETERMINATIONS. IT PROTECTS SERVICE MEMBERS AGAINST THIS INJUSTICE BY PROVIDING A NATIONAL UNIFORM STANDARDS. STATE LAWS DIFFER ON WHETHER THE DEPLOYMENT CAN BE USED AS A CRY TEARIAN BY COURTS AND MANY STATES DON'T HAVE LAWS AT ALL. I ASK PASSAGE AND THANK YOU FOR THE INCLUSION OF THESE TWO PROVISIONS. THANK YOU.

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  • 01:17:08 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    SPEAKER, AT THIS TIME I'M PROUD TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH…

    SPEAKER, AT THIS TIME I'M PROUD TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA, MR. JONES.

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  • 01:17:16 PM

    MR. JONES

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, AND I WANT TO START MY COMMENTS…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, AND I WANT TO START MY COMMENTS WITH HIS CLOSE AS HE QUOTES PRESIDENT EISENHOWER, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN MY COMMENTS BY QUOTING PRESIDENT EISENHOWER. HE SAID BEWARE OF THE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN OUR KIDS ARE DYING, LOSING THEIR LEGS, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 20-MINUTE DEBATE ON AFGHANISTAN. WE OUGHT TO HAVE A FULL DAY OF DEBATE ON AFGHANISTAN, QUITE FRANKLY. WE SPENT $1.3 TRILLION IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, OVER 6,400 AMERICANS HAVE DIED. THAT'S WHY I RISE WITH MY FRIEND, MR. MCGOVERN, AND I WILL TELL YOU I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE RULE TODAY BECAUSE IT DENIES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A FULL DEBATE ON WHY OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE DYING FOR A CORRUPT LEADER NAMED KARZAI. MADAM SPEAKER, WE CAN'T EVEN AUDIT THE BOOKS IN AFGHANISTAN, AND I THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOSE MARINES I SAW RECENTLY AT WALTER REED, OVER IN BETHESDA, TWO LOST BOTH LEGS. THEY ARE FROM MY DISTRICT, CAMP LEJEUNE. ONE WAS A LANCE CORPORAL, LOST ONE LEG, AND HE SAID TO ME, CONGRESSMAN, WHY ARE WE STILL IN AFGHANISTAN? I SAID, SIR, I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO WITH FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES TRYING TO GET YOU OUT OF AFGHANISTAN. BUT, NO, WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE BECAUSE WE WON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO DEBATE AFGHANISTAN ON THIS BILL. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. I TOOK THE MCGOVERN AMENDMENT AND SENT TO TO MY ADVISOR WHO IS A FORMER COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE CORPS AND SAID TO HIM, MR. COMMANDANT, WHAT DO YOU THINK BY THIS APPROACH BY MR. MCGOVERN AND MYSELF? HE SAID, YOU ARE ON TRACK. BRING IT UP IN THE HOUSE, AND WE CAN'T EVEN DO THAT. LET ME QUOTE A SPECIAL OPERATIONS OFFICER IN AFGHANISTAN TODAY, TODAY HE EMAILED ME TO THIS YESTERDAY. IF YOU ASK ME IF IT'S WORTH ONE AMERICAN LIFE TO BUILD GOVERNANCE HERE IN AFGHANISTAN, I WOULD SAY NO. THEY ARE ON THE GROUND, MADAM SPEAKER. THEY'RE ON THE GROUND FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY. THIS WEEK WE LOST SEVEN AMERICAN LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN. WE OWE IT TO THEM TO AT LEAST DEBATE A REALISTIC FUTURE COURSE FOR THE WAR. WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY AND TONIGHT AND TOMORROW IS NOT REALISTIC BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE IN THIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR WHATEVER REASON WANT TO STAY THERE 15 YEARS AND 20 YEARS. THAT'S WHY WE TODAY OWE IT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, TO THE FAMILIES WHOSE KIDS DIED, AND MORE, MADAM SPEAKER, TO THE KIDS WHO CAME BACK WITH THEIR LEGS GONE. I'VE SEEN FIVE KIDS AT WALTER REED THAT HAVE NO BODY PARTS BELOW THEIR WAIST AND THEY'RE LIVING AND THEY WILL LIVE. WE OWE IT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DEBATE THE FUTURE COURSE IN AFGHANISTAN, AND I'M SORRY THAT MY OWN SIDE, MANY ON MY OWN SIDE WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS AMENDMENT TO GET TO THE FLOOR SO WE CAN HAVE AN HONEST DEBATE AND WE COULD SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE CARE ABOUT YOUR $10 BILLION. WE CARE ABOUT YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, AND IT'S TIME TO STOP SEEING THEM GIVE THEIR LIFE FOR NOTHING IN AFGHANISTAN. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 01:20:38 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    MR. BISHOP

    PLEASED TO YIELD 2 1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. GRAVES.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR WILL REMIND ALL PERSONS IN THE GALLERY THAT THEY ARE HERE AS…

    THE CHAIR WILL REMIND ALL PERSONS IN THE GALLERY THAT THEY ARE HERE AS GUESTS OF THE HOUSE AND ANY MANIFESTATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE RULES OF THE HOUSE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI.

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  • 01:21:01 PM

    MR. GRAVES

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE RULE, HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, WHICH ALLOWS FOR FULL…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE RULE, HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, WHICH ALLOWS FOR FULL AND FAIR DEBATE ON THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT. GIVEN THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDS OVER HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS EACH YEAR THROUGH CONTRACTS, THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT MARKET IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SMALL BUSINESSES. IMPROVING SMALL BUSINESSES' OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEDERAL CONTRACTS IS A TRIPLE PLAY. SMALL BUSINESSES WIN MORE CONTRACTS, WORKERS WIN MORE JOBS AND TAXPAYERS WIN BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESSES BRING COMPETITION, INNOVATION AND LOWER PRICES TO SAVE THE GOVERNMENT MONEY. H.R. 4310 ENSURES THAT SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPETE. IT INCREASES THE SMALL BUSINESS GOAL FROM 23% TO 25% WHICH COULD MEAN UP TO $11 BILLION IN NEW SMALL BUSINESS CONTRACTS. IT IMPROVES THE QUALITY THE FEDERAL CONTRACTING WORK FORCE. IT CRACKS DOWN DECEPTIVE ENTITIES HIDING BEHIND SMALL BUSINESSES AND MAKES IT EASIER TO CATCH FRAUD AND ABUSE AND IT SIMPLIFIES RULES. THESE FORMS REFLECT THE WORK OF THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE WHO HELD 10 MEETINGS AND TWO MARKUPS AND THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE'S OWN EFFORT TO HELP CONTRACTORS. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEENE, RANKING MEMBER SMITH, MR. SHUSTER -- CHAIRMAN MCKEON, RANKING MEMBER SMITH. WHILE THE HOUSE IS SEEKING WAYS TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, THE ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A STATEMENT OPPOSING THE BILL' MODEST INCREASE IN THE BILL'S BUNDLING PROVISIONS THAT MAKE IT EASIER FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO COMPETE AND IRONICCALLY THIS OPPOSITION CAME THE SAME DAY THE ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A REPORT SEEKING WAYS TO MOVE AMERICA'S SMALL BUSINESSES FORWARD. THE BEST WAY TO MOVE SMALL BUSINESS FORWARD IS TO GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO SUCCEED. SUPPORTING THIS SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION WILL CREATE JOBS, SAVE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AND PUT SMALL BUSINESSES BACK TO WORK. I'D URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS RULE AND THE PRO-JOBS, PRO-COMPETITION AND COMMONSENSE REFORMS IN THIS BILL AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 01:23:05 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AT THIS TIME IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO YIELD FOUR…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. AT THIS TIME IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, THE DEMOCRATIC WHIP, WERE HOYER.

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    MR. HOYER

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM MASSACHUSETTS FOR YIELDING , THE RANKING -- ACTING…

    I THANK MY FRIEND FROM MASSACHUSETTS FOR YIELDING , THE RANKING -- ACTING RANKING MEMBER OF THE RULES COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, WHO IS A DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THIS BODY. I RISE IN DEEP DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE TREATMENT HE WAS ACCORDED LAST NIGHT. UNWORTHY OF THIS BODY, UNWORTHY OF THE RULES COMMITTEE AND UNWORTHY OF THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. I'M PLEASED THERE HAS BEEN AN APOLOGY FOR THAT. BUT I DID NOT WANT IT TO GO UNMENTIONED. THIS BODY IS BETTER THAN THAT, ALTHOUGH AT TIMES IT IS NOT. AND WE ALL LAMENT THE FACT WHEN IT IS NOT. NOW, MADAM SPEAKER, THE RULE TO CONSIDER THIS BILL IS NOT ONLY UNFAIR BUT INCONSISTENT WITH THE MAJORITY'S STATED GOAL OF HAVING AN OPEN PROCESS. I WILL QUOTE THE SPEAKER IN JUST A COUPLE MINUTES. MY FRIEND FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MCGOVERN, HAS PUT FORWARD A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUE, WHO HAS -- AND I HOPE ALL AMERICANS, MADAM SPEAKER, NOTICE THE COURAGE AND CONVICTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA, MR. JONES, HAS. HE WAS SPONSORING AN AMENDMENT WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. NOW, THEY DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA SAID, THERE IS NO MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT CONFRONTS A COUNTRY THAN SENDING ITS YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN IN HARM'S WAY AT THE POINT OF A SPEAR. YES, TO DEFEAT TERRORISM AND TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE, BUT THE DECISION TO DO THAT AND THE ONGOING DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY AFTER A DECADE, AFTER A DECADE CERTAINLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD EXPECT A FULL-BLOWN DISCUSSION, DEBATE AND ERRING OF OUR CONTINUING TO KEEP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND NOT SO YOUNG PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY. IT IS CERTAINLY GERMANE TO THIS BILL AS ITS CONCERNS ON MILITARY OPERATIONS IN AFGHANISTAN. MR. MCGOVERN'S AMENDMENT AND MR. JONES' AMENDMENT WOULD LAY OUT THE STRATEGY LAID OUT BY THE PRESIDENT AND AGREED TO BY THE AFGHAN PRESIDENT TO TRANSITION SECURITY TO AFGHAN FORCES SO OUR TROOPS CAN COME HOME. TODAY, AL QAEDA HAS BEEN FORCED OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, AND THE TALIBAN IS SEVERELY WEAKENED. OBJECTIVES THAT I SUPPORTED. AFGHAN FORCES ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR MORE AND MORE OF THEIR COUNTRY'S SECURITY AND WE'RE MAKING STRONG GAINS, THANKS TO THE HARD WORK AND SACRIFICE OF OUR TROOPS WHOM WE HONOR. WITH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS STILL DEPLOYED IN COMBAT, ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES IN THIS YEAR'S DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT MUST BE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A STRATEGY TO COMPLETE THEIR MISSION AND RETURN HOME SAFELY. WE OWE THAT TO THEM. WE OWE TO THAT THEIR PARENTS, THEIR WIVES, THEIR BROTHERS, THEIR SISTERS, THEIR NIECES, THEIR NEPHEWS AND TO ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS. OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HAVE PERFORMED EVERYTHING ASKED OF THEM, WITH COURAGE, DISTINCTION AND PROFESSIONALISM. WE'VE ASKED MANY OF THEM TO RETURN FOR TOUR OF DUTY AFTER TOUR OF DUTY TO ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST DEADLY WAR ZONES, AND WE WE IT TO ALL OF THEM TO HAVE A CAREFULLY CONCEIVED STRATEGY. MR. MCGOVERN'S AMENDMENT WOULD NOT TIE THE PRESIDENT'S HANDS AND WOULD HELP PLACE US IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE POSITION TO COMBAT TERRORISM AROUND THE WORLD. MAY I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE?

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  • 01:27:29 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. HOYER

    I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY MAY NOT AGREE ON MR. MCGOVERN'S FORMULATION, BUT…

    I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY MAY NOT AGREE ON MR. MCGOVERN'S FORMULATION, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS BODY IS FOR, TO DEBATE THESE ISSUES OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO THE PEOPLE AND RESOLVE THEM IN A DEMOCRATIC WAY. I'M SORELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS AMENDMENT WAS NOT MADE IN ORDER. IF IT HAD I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR IF. IN SEPTEMBER, SPEAKER BOEHNER HIMSELF SAID THE FOLLOWING -- AND, MADAM SPEAKER, IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT THE SPEAKER SAID, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THE SPEAKER SAID. HE SAID THIS -- I HAVE NO FEAR IN ALLOWING THE HOUSE TO WORK ITS WILL. I'VE LONG BELIEVED IN IT, AND I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN IT. THE ACTIONS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE LAST NIGHT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH THAT CONVICTION. MADAM SPEAKER, LET THE HOUSE WORK ITS WILL. LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. LET US SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR TROOPS THAT WE HAVE AN EXIT STRATEGY IN AFGHANISTAN, THAT WE'LL SEE THEM SAFELY HOME WITH THEIR MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. 10 ADDITIONAL SECONDS?

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN 10 ADDITIONAL SECONDS.

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    MR. HOYER

    TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE MCGOVERN FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE, COMMEND…

    TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE MCGOVERN FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE, COMMEND SMITH FOR HIS WORK ON THIS AMENDMENT, AND I CONGRATULATE MR. JONES FOR HIS COURAGE AND FOR HIS VISION. WHILE YOU MAY DISAGREE, YOU OUGHT NOT TO SHUT DOWN ALTERNATIVE OPINIONS, AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS ADVISED THAT HE HAS 16 3/4 MINUTES REMAINING,…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS ADVISED THAT HE HAS 16 3/4 MINUTES REMAINING, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS 10 1/3 MINUTES REMAINING, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 01:29:27 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    THANK YOU. I YIELD MYSELF TWO MINUTES AT THIS TIME. I AM SOMEWHAT…

    THANK YOU. I YIELD MYSELF TWO MINUTES AT THIS TIME. I AM SOMEWHAT PERPLEXED ON THE IDEA THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS NOT BEING FAIR, ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS WE HAD IN THE PAST. THIS PARTICULAR RULE MAKES IN ORDER 140 AMENDMENTS, 2/3 OF THEM DEMOCRATS OR BIPARTISAN AMENDMENTS MADE IN ORDER. LAST YEAR THE RULE MADE 152 AMENDMENTS IN ORDER, AND YET WHEN THE OTHER PARTY WAS IN CONTROL OF THIS BODY ON THE SAME BILL THEY MADE IN ORDER 82, 69, 58, 50 IN EACH OF THE FOUR YEARS IN WHICH THEY WERE IN CONTROL. THE IDEA OF TRIPLING THE NUMBER OF BILLS THAT WERE BEING MADE IN ORDER TO BE DEBATED ON THIS FLOOR HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AND FAIR. THE ISSUE THAT'S SUPPOSEDLY NOT ALLOWED BUT IT WILL BE BECAUSE THERE IS AN AMENDMENT AND WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION HERE WAS NOT TOTALLY IGNORED. IN FACT, SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON HOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS AT ALL, IT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE COMMITTEE AS WELL AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED ON A BIPARTISAN VOTE OF 56-5. THIS IS WHERE I HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY BECAUSE ALL I CAN KNOW IS KNOW WHAT I'M READING AND IN THE BILL IN SECTION 1216, IT CLEARLY SAYS THE UNITED STATES MILITARY SHOULD NOT MAINTAIN AN INDEFINITE COMBAT MISSION IN AFGHANISTAN AND SHOULD TRANSITION TOWARD COUNTERTERRORISM AND ADVISE AND ASSIST MISSION AT THE EARLIEST PRACTICAL DATE CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. IT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH. THEY TALKED ABOUT. IT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IT CAN BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN ALTERNATIVE BILLS OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR ONE WHICH WE HAVE TO HAVE IF INDEED YOU WANT TO FUND THE MILITARY AND PAY THEIR SALARIES AND PAY THEIR HEALTH CARE AND PROVIDE THE SHAPE OF THE FUTURE MILITARY. THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BILL. IS TO SAY WE ARE DENYING ANY ACCESS DOES NOT MEET WITH THE REALITY OF WHAT IS IN THE BASE, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND WHAT WILL BE DONE IN OTHER PARTICULAR VENUES. I RESERVE.

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  • 01:31:36 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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    PRIVILEGE TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. MILLER

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. TO PUT IT SIMPLY IN THE MINUTE I HAVE, THIS…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. TO PUT IT SIMPLY IN THE MINUTE I HAVE, THIS BILL PUTS IN JEOPARDY THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR NUCLEAR FACILITIES WETCH OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO FIX THE DANGEROUS FLAWS BUT TODAY'S RULE WILL NOT ALLOW THAT AMENDMENT ONTO THE FLOOR. OUR AMENDMENT RECOGNIZES THESE FACILITIES POSE A UNIQUE CHALLENGE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY. THEY ARE ULTRA HAZARDOUS, THEY MAKE PLUTONIUM, HANDLE BOMB-GRADE URANIUM AND HIGH EXPLOSIVES. IF THE WORST WAS TO HAPPEN, THE UNITED STATES WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR THE DISASTER. WE NEED TO ASK THEM TO LIVE UP TO HIGHER STANDARDS OF SAFETY THIS LEGISLATION DOES NOT DO THAT. I COMMEND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MCGOVERN, FOR TRYING TO GET THIS AMENDMENT IN ORDER IN THE RULE COMMITTEES, AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT, WE'RE HEARING FROM WORKERS IN THESE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE REMOVING A CRITICAL MARGIN OF SAFETY FOR THEM, THAT WE'RE TURNING THIS OVER TO CONTRACTORS AND LESSENING THE SAFETY STANDARDS ACROSS THESE PLANTS AND REMOVING THE JURISDICTION OF THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY. THIS SHOULD BE REJECTED, THIS BILL SHOULD BE REJECTED FOR WHAT IT DOES TO THESE WORKERS.

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  • 01:33:22 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    MR. BISHOP

    TO YIELD TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO ANOTHER OF THE CHAIRMEN OF THE…

    TO YIELD TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO ANOTHER OF THE CHAIRMEN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES ON THE ROYCE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, A PERSON WHO HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS NOOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER HERE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM

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    MR. AKIN

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. GARAMENDI.

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    MR. GARAMENDI

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARKS.

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    MR. GARAMENDI

    THIS MORNING IN CALIFORNIA NEW YORK MARYSVILLE, A YOUNG SOLDIERS WILL BE…

    THIS MORNING IN CALIFORNIA NEW YORK MARYSVILLE, A YOUNG SOLDIERS WILL BE LAID TO REST. ONE OF MANY. THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING THIS NATION, THE AFGHANISTAN WAR, CONTINUES ON. WE HAVE 10 MINUTES TO DEBATE OUR VIEW OF HOW THAT SHOULD END. RANKING MEMBER SMITH PROPOSED IN COMMITTEE AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD RATIONALLY BRING DOWN AND END THIS WAR. HE WAS REFUSED THE OPPORTUNITY. THE RANKING MEMBER, THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN BE HEARD IN COMMITTEE. AND NOW WE ARE FACED WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL THAT EXTENDS THIS WAR INDEFINITELY AT A COST THIS YEAR OF $88 BILLION AND THE SAME LEVEL INTERMINABLY INTO THE FUTURE. THIS DESERVES A ROBUST DEBATE. WHAT IS THE ROLE OF AMERICA IN AFGHANISTAN? HOW LONG ARE WE TO CONTINUE THERE? UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DEBATE IS TRUNCATED AND WILL BE TERMINATED BY THE MAJORITY IN AN UNSELF-WAY. THAT EXTENDS THE WAR. WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? APARAPHERNALIALY FOR REASONS THAT ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD. -- APPARENTLY FOR REASONS THAT ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD.

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  • 01:37:48 PM

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    MR. BISHOP

    I MURGE THE GENTLEMAN -- I URGE THE GENTLEMAN TO READ PAGE 544 IN THE BASE…

    I MURGE THE GENTLEMAN -- I URGE THE GENTLEMAN TO READ PAGE 544 IN THE BASE BILL TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION. I AM PLEASED TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. WALSH.

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  • 01:38:05 PM

    MR. WALSH

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE RULE. AS A SMALL BUSINESS SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN,…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE RULE. AS A SMALL BUSINESS SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE TO THE FUTURE OF OUR GREAT NATION. THEY ARE THE ENGINE OF THIS ECONOMY AND THE KEY TO PULLING AMERICA OUT OF THIS ECONOMIC RECESSION. BUT MADAM CHAIR, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ALSO VITAL TO OUR ARMED SERVICES. OVER $500 BILLION IN FEDERAL CONTACTS ARE AWARDED EACH YEAR AND 70% OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE AWARDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. IT IS VITAL FOR TAXPAYERS AND THE MILITARY THAT SMALL BUSINESSES COMPETE FOR THESE CONTRACTS, SMALL BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURSHIP WILL PROVIDE OUR BRAVE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BEST ENABLE THEM TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY AND THEIR FAMILIES. IT IS CLEAR THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE SHARE THIS IS DEDICATION WITH SMALL BUSINESSES. I'M PROUD THEY'VE CHOSEN TO INCLUDE THE BIPARTISAN SMALL BUSINESS PROTECTION ACT IN THE NDAA. WE INTRODUCED THE SMALL BUSINESS PROTECTION ACT TO GUARANTEE THAT AMERICAN SMALL BUSINESSES ARE NOT DRIVEN OUT OF THE COMPETITION FOR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. I CAN IN THE STRESS ENOUGH THE VITAL ROLE AMERICAN SMALL BUSINESSES PLAY AND THE SUCCESS AMONG THE MILITARY IN THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY. IT IS IMER PERTIVE THAT MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORT AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND SMALL BUSINESS. MADAM CHAIR, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON,…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. DEFAZIO.

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    MR. DEFAZIO

    THE GENTLEMAN. THERE IS ONE AGENCY, ONE AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT…

    THE GENTLEMAN. THERE IS ONE AGENCY, ONE AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AUDITED AND IS UNAUDITABLE. IT HAPPENS TO BE THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. LAST YEAR, REPRESENTATIVE GARRETT AND I SNUCK UP ON THEM TO REQUIRE AN AUDIT OF THE PENTAGON, NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK WHEN THEY SPEND $600 BILLION A YEAR NONE OF WHICH THEY CAN MEANINGINGLY -- MEANINGFULLY ACCOUNT FOR, IT WAS TRIPPED -- STRIPPED OUT IN THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE GOT ONE ON THE AUTHORIZATION, STRIPPED OUT IN THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE THIS TIME THEY'RE ACTING PROACTIVELY, PROHIBITING US TO BRING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE AND WOULD LET THE PENTAGON KNOW THAT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, SHOULD HAVE TO PASS AN AUDIT. THEY'RE SAYING NO, NO, NO, NO. THEY CAN'T BE REQUIRED TO DO AN AWE.UNTIL THEY SPEND $3.6 TRILLION IN THE YEAR 2017. THIS IS AN ATPWHIFES AMERICAN TAXPAYER AND ABUFSE OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN. THE WASTE THAT GOES ON AT THE PENTAGON HAS TO STOP. WE NEED A MEANINGFUL AUDIT.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. DOG GET.

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    MR. DOGGETT

    THANK YOU. WELL KNOWN AS MILITARY CITY, SAN ANTONIO HAS ACCOMPLISHED A…

    THANK YOU. WELL KNOWN AS MILITARY CITY, SAN ANTONIO HAS ACCOMPLISHED A TRAUMATIC BUT SUCCESSFUL CONVERSION OF KELLY AND BROOKS AIR FORCE BASES. NOW THE PENTAGON IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF BASE CLOSURES. LET'S FIRST GUARANTEE THAT WE APPLY THE SAME RIGOROUS BASE REVIEW STANDARDS TO MILITARY FACILITIES OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AS THEY WOULD APPLY INSIDE THE UNITED STATES. TODAY, I OFFER AN AMENDMENT ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMITTEE SIMILAR TO THE APPROACH RECOMMENDED BY SENATORS TESTER AND HUTCHISON THAT REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO THOROUGHLY EXAMINE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS AND SAVINGS REALIZED BY CLOSING OUTDATED OR EXCESS OVERSEAS BASES. BOTH THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE AND THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE SAY MAINTAINING THE FACILITIES OVERSEAS ARE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OUR STATESIDE OPERATIONS. SO WHILE MANY OF THE 585 MILITARY BASES WE HAVE AROUND THE WORLD MAY BE NECESSARY, LET'S ENSURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT THOROUGHLY SCRUTINIZES EACH OF THEM AND VERIFIES THAT THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TO OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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    MR. MCGOVERN

    CAN I INQUIRE HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH HAS?

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    MR. BISHOP

    I'M NOT SURE. SOME ARE SAYING THEY'RE COMING DOWN HERE. I'M NOT SURE.

  • 01:42:35 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM VERMONT, MR. WELCH.

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    MR. WELCH

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IT IS A FAILURE WHEN CONGRESS WILL NOT ALLOW DEBATE…

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IT IS A FAILURE WHEN CONGRESS WILL NOT ALLOW DEBATE ON THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THIS BILL AND THAT IS THE POLICY IN AFGHANISTAN. CONGRESS HAS BEEN FAILING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE HAVEN'T PAID FOR THAT WAR. WE HAVEN'T DEBATED HOW TO PAY FOR THAT WAR. IT'S BEEN ON THE CREDIT CARD FOR 10 YEARS, OVER $1 TRILLION AND BY REFUSING TO ALLOW US TO DEBATE THE MCGOVERN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT THE POLICY, WE NOW WON'T EVEN DEBATE THE POLICY, SO WE DON'T PAY FOR IT AN WE DON'T DEBATE THE WISDOM OF THE POLICY. THAT'S A DWRAVE MISTAKE. THE RL -- THE REALITY IS THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS OVER. IT'S TIME FOR CONGRESS END IT. THE PRESIDENT HAS SET A DATE 20 14, WHAT'S MAGIC ABOUT THAT? THE AFGHANS HAVE TO STEP UP AND ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR FUTURE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEBATE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BRING THOSE TROOPS HOME SOONER THAN 2014. WE OWE IT TO THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER, WE OWE IT TO THE AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE SERVING, AND WE OWE IT TO OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY TO DEBATE THE IMPORTANT PUBLIC ISSUES OF OUR TIME. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 01:43:57 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

  • 01:44:02 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH.

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 01:44:08 PM

    MR. KUCINICH

    WAR IN IRAQ, CONGRESS WAS LIED TO. TO START THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN,…

    WAR IN IRAQ, CONGRESS WAS LIED TO. TO START THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, CONGRESS WAS MISLED. TO START THE WAR IN LIBYA, CONGRESS WAS IGNORED. TO START THE WAR IN IRAN, LANGUAGE HAS BEEN HIDDEN IN THE NDAA. THE NDAA PREPARES FOR WAR AGAINST IRAN. THERE'S A DECLARATION OF POLICY WHICH INCLUDES MILITARY ACTION. IT HAS A -- A PLAN TO PREPOSITION -- TO PRE-POSITION AIR AND SEA BASED FUEL FOR MISSIONS. IT HAS A PLAN TO LAUNCH A SEA AND AIR CAMPAIGN AGAINST A RANGE OF IRANIAN MILITARY TARGETS THIS BILL PREPARES FOR WAR. SOME WILL SAY THIS BILL DOESN'T AUTHORIZE FOR WAR. EVEN IF IT'S AMENDED, IT PREPARES FOR WAR AND WE NEED TO VOTE THE BILL DOWN BECAUSE IT PREPARES FOR WAR WITH IRAN WHICH WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THIS COUNTRY'S INTEREST.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

  • 01:45:12 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE.

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    THE SPEAKER

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE.

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    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 01:45:31 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LODGED IN BETWEEN OUR COMMEMORATION OF MEMORIAL DAY AND OUR FALLEN LOVED…

    LODGED IN BETWEEN OUR COMMEMORATION OF MEMORIAL DAY AND OUR FALLEN LOVED ONES AND HEROES AND FLAG DAY WHICH WE STAND PROUDLY TO WAVE THE FLAG, I REALLY STAND HERE AS A FRIEND THAT IS DEEPLY SADDENED BY SOMETHING THAT I THINK HAS NEVER OCCURRED AND THAT IS TO ALLOW AMERICANS THROUGH THE MCGOVERN-SMITH AMENDMENT TO REALLY SPEAK TO ALL OF OUR MEMBERS. AND I THINK AMERICA WOULD AGREE NONE OF US SHOULD BE CHALLENGED WITH OUR PATRIOTISM. BUT AS WE RAISE THE QUESTION OF WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN AFGHANISTAN, IT IS NOT A DIMINISHING OF THE SERVICE OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN. IT IS NOT THE ELIMINATING OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO ASSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE AFGHAN PEOPLE. IT IS TO ALLOW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO REPRESENT THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO RAISE THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW WILL WE BRING OUR TROOPS HOME SAFELY? THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE DISCUSSED JUST AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE DETENTION REMOVAL WHERE WE'RE ELIMINATING THE LANGUAGE AND THE ABILITY TO REMOVE CITIZENS AND TO HOLD THEM INDEFINITELY. IT IS THE AMERICAN WAY, MADAM SPEAKER. I BEG OF HER TO DO THIS IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO ALLOW THE MCGOVERN-SMITH AMENDMENT TO GO FORWARD. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 01:47:04 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    MADAM SPEAKER, AT THIS POINT IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE…

    MADAM SPEAKER, AT THIS POINT IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER, MS. PELOSI.

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    MS. PELOSI

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I THANK…

    THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT TO CLARIFY WHAT OUR MISSION IS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HONOR OUR TROOPS AND HONOR THEM MEANS NOT HAVING THEM STAY IN HARM'S WAY ANY LONGER THAN IS NECESSARY FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. MADAM SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS RULE AND I DO SO WITH SOME LEVEL OF SADNESS BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DEFENSE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE OATH WE TAKE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, I WOULD HAVE HOPED UNDER THIS BILL WE COULD HAVE HAD ON THE FLOOR THE APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN AFGHANISTAN. I RISE TODAY JUST HAVING RETURNED WITH A BIPARTISAN, ALL-WOMEN CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION TO AFGHANISTAN. IT'S OUR TRADITIONAL MOTHER'S DAY VISIT TO OUR TROOPS WHEREVER THEY ARE IN COMBAT, AND THIS YEAR AND YEAR OUT RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN GOING TO AFGHANISTAN. IRAQ BEFORE THAT. THE PURPOSE OF THE TRIP IS TIME, CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN, PRESIDENT KARZAI, AS THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION INTO AFGHANISTAN FOLLOWING THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BETWEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT KARZAI. BUT OUR MAIN PURPOSE OF THE TRIP WAS TO VISIT OUR TROOPS, TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND THEIR SACRIFICE TO KEEP AMERICA'S FAMILIES SAFE ON MOTHER'S DAY AND ON EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. FURTHER PURPOSE IS TO THANK IN PARTICULAR OUR WOMEN WHO ARE IN SERVICE THERE, OUR MOTHERS IN COMBAT, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OUR GRANDMOTHERS WHO ARE IN THE WAR ZONE. WE MET A MOM WHO HAD A BABY, 16 WEEKS OLD. I HAD AN HONOR OF PINNING A RIBBON ON A NEWLY APPOINTED CAPTAIN, A WOMAN CAPTAIN OF SIX CHILDREN, 4 TO 14, AT HOME AND THE 10TH YEAR -- 10TH MONTH OF HER ONE-YEAR DEPLOYMENT IN AFGHANISTAN. OUR WOMEN IN THE MILITARY SERVE OUR COUNTRY VERY WELL. THEY STRENGTHEN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO ALL OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. THERE ARE THE 1% THAT WE SHOULD CARE THE MOST ABOUT AND FOCUS ON. YOU HEAR A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THE 99% AND THE 1%. WELL, THIS 1%, IT'S LESS THAN 1% OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT, WHEN THEY COME HOME. AND WHAT WE SAY IN THE MILITARY, IS ON THE BATTLEFIELD WE LEAVE NO SOLDIER BEHIND AND WHEN THEY COME HOME, LEAVE NO VETERAN BEHIND. WE WILL BE MEETING WITH OUR VETERAN SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS TODAY AS THIS BILL WILL BE -- IS BEING DEBATED. I WISH THIS RULE WOULD ALLOW THE MCGOVERN-SMITH AMENDMENT. I AM SURPRISED THAT DISCUSSION COULD NOT TAKE PLACE ON THIS FLOOR IN THE FORM OF APPROVING THAT AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT IS FURTHERANCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP. I CAN TELL YOU THIS ON THE BASIS OF OUR TRIP AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE RETURN, CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS FROM THE TRIP THAT WE DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO OUR OWN OBSERVATIONS. BUT WHAT WE DID HEAR THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM BEFORE GOING EVERY YEAR IS THAT OUR TROOPS, LEADERSHIP, GENERAL ALLEN IS SO GREAT AND THE OTHER GENERALS THAT SERVE WITH THEM. THEY ARE PREPARING FOR THE TIMETABLE SPELLED OUT IN THE PRESIDENT'S STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. SIGNED BY THE TWO PRESIDENTS. ON THE CIVILIAN FRONT AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH USAID AND OUR AMERICANS WHO ARE SERVING THERE AS WELL AS THE COALITION FORCES AND FRIENDS WHO ARE HELPING IN AFGHANISTAN ARE WORKING ALONG THE PATH OF THIS STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP. AND THEN THE CIVILIAN PART TO GO BEYOND THAT. SO, REALLY, I COME HOME MORE ENCOURAGED THAN EVER THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH OUR COMMISSION WHICH IS THE PROTECTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT HAS -- THAT COMES TO AN END. IT'S NEVER OVER -- OUR PROTECTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS AN ENDLESS COMMITMENT BUT AT LEAST A COMMITMENT OF THAT MANY TROOPS ON THE GROUND IN THAT COUNTRY IS ONE THAT WE CAN SAY THAT SOON WE WILL BRING OUR TROOPS HOME SAFELY. AND THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE SOON. SO THE TIMETABLE THAT MR. MCGOVERN HAS IN HIS AMENDMENT IS IN SYNC WITH WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP IS. THERE'S OTHER LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, FRANKLY, THAT I THINK CONFUSES THE ISSUE AND THAT'S WHY THE CLARITY OF DEBATE WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. I AM GLAD THAT THE AMENDMENT BY MR. SMITH, THE RANKING MEMBER, THAT IS A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO THE FLOOR WHICH ADDRESSES THE DETENTION ISSUE AND WE'LL HAVE A FULLER DISCUSSION OF THAT WHEN THAT AMENDMENT COMES TO THE FLOOR. BUT TO RECALL, PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN HE SIGNED LAST YEAR'S BILL DID A SIGNING STATEMENT THAT SAID HE WOULD NOT ENFORCE THAT PART OF THE BILL. HOPEFULLY TODAY WE CAN REMOVE THAT PART FROM THE BILL BECAUSE IT FLIES IN THE FACE OF OUR COMMITMENT TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO HAVE THE PROPER BALANCE BETWEEN SECURITY AND LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. AND THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS RULE, TO VOTE NO ON THE -- ON MOVING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION UNLESS WE CAN TAKE UP THE MCGOVERNOR -- MCGOVERN AMENDMENT AND SALUTE THE PRESIDENT FOR THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY SALUTE THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR SACRIFICE AND THEIR PATRIOTISM FOR ON COUNTRY -- FOR OURL COUNTRY. MADAM SPEAKER -- FOR OUR COUNTRY. MADAM SPEAKER, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 01:53:56 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. GOVERPGOVERPB CAN I ASK THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. GOVERPGOVERPB CAN I ASK THE GENTLEMAN HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS HE HAS BECAUSE I AM THE FINAL SPEAKER.

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  • 01:54:04 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    I SAID I HAVE SPEAKERS BUT THEY ARE NOT HERE. IF THE GENTLEMAN IS READY TO…

    I SAID I HAVE SPEAKERS BUT THEY ARE NOT HERE. IF THE GENTLEMAN IS READY TO CLOSE THEN I WILL.

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  • 01:54:14 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 01:54:18 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. IF THE PREVIOUS…

    I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. IF THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS DEFEATED, I WILL OFFER THE BIPARTISAN MCGOVERN-JONES-SMITH-PAUL AMENDMENT. BY DENYING DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP HAS ENSURED THERE WILL BE NO DEBATE OR CHALLENGE TO SECTION 1216 IN THE BILL, A SECTION THAT CALLS FOR RETAINING 68,000 U.S. TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN UNTIL 2015 AND INDEFINITELY BEYOND THAT. MADAM SPEAKER, WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT WITH THIS AMENDMENT. WE WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN WAY. WE DRAFTED IT CAREFULLY. THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE WITHDREW HIS OWN AMENDMENT ON THIS ISSUE AND JOINED AS A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. WE DESERVED THE COURTESY OF A DEBATE AND A VOTE. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S THE DECENT THING TO DO. BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE A FULL AND SUBSTANDIVE DEBATE ON THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, THE LONGEST WAR IN AMERICAN HISTORY. THEY DESERVE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MEMBER OF CONGRESS STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF CRITICAL NATIONAL IMPORTANCE. THEY DESERVE TO KNOW WHERE THEY STAND ON ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST. THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP'S REFUSAL TO ALLOW A FULL DEBATE ON OUR AMENDMENT SHOWS HOWEVER THEY WILL GO TO MAKE SURE A POLL -- HOW FAR THEY WILL GO TO MAKE SURE A POLICY OF STAYING IN AFGHANISTAN UNTIL THE END OF TIME REMAINS UNTOUCHED AND UNCHALLENGED. MADAM SPEAKER, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO INSERT THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENT IN THE RECORD ALONG WITH EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE VOTE ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION.

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  • 01:55:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 01:55:48 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO AND DEFEAT THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. I ASK MY…

    I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO AND DEFEAT THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN WITH US IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO VOTE NO ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AND HAVE A REAL DEBATE ON AFGHANISTAN. THAT'S WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT. BEARING THAT, MADAM SPEAKER, I URGE A NO VOTE ON THE RULE AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 01:56:07 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH.

  • 01:56:17 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    MADAM SPEAKER, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY OF COMING DOWN HERE AND…

    MADAM SPEAKER, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY OF COMING DOWN HERE AND PRESENTING THE PARTICULAR RULES ON THE AMENDMENTS. I TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF UMBRAGE THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY FAIR. I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT TOOK THREE YEARS UNDER THE PRIOR SPEAKER BEFORE THEY AUTHORIZED AS MANY AMENDMENTS AS WE ARE AUTHORIZING JUST THIS YEAR ALONE IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL. IT'S 141 AMENDMENTS COVERING A VAST VARIETY OF ISSUES. SOMETIMES GET THE IMPRESSION FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AFGHANISTAN. THAT'S TOTALLY WRONG. THERE IS AN AMENDMENT MADE IN ORDER ON THAT ISSUE. IT'S GIVEN TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THAT ISSUE AS ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE US HERE. IT IS THERE. THE DEBATE WILL TAKE PLACE. THE DEBATE WILL HAPPEN. IT MAY NOT BE THE ACTUAL VERBIAGE OR THE PRIDE OF AUTHORSHIP THAT SOME WISHED BUT IT WILL BE THERE. INDEED IN THIS HOUR OF DISCUSSION, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS WAS DONE IN THE RULES COMMITTEE, AS WAS DONE IN THE BASE COMMITTEE, THERE IS A SECTION, PAGE 544, WHICH DOES TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL IN AFGHANISTAN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS BILL AT ALL. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE AND INTRODUCE BILLS ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE WHICH HAVE LITTLE TO DO WITH OUR CORE CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE. DURING THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION TIME, THE UNITED STATES WAS FACED IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD FEWER THAN 800 MEN IN OUR MILITARY CAPACITY. WE HAD NO NAVY TO PROTECT OUR SHIPPING. SINCE WE HAD NOT PAID OFF THE TORREY DEBT, WE WERE IN BREACH OF THE PEACE TREATY WHICH ENDED THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR. BRITISH TROOPS WERE ON AMERICAN SOIL. THERE WAS A MILITARY FORCE ON OUR NORTHERN BORDER WHICH WERE THREATENING US AND THE BRITISH WERE SUPPLYING WITH IMPUNITY WEAPONS TO NATIVE AMERICANS WHO WERE OPPOSED TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND WHAT THE UNITED STATES COULD DO ABOUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE COULDN'T DO SQUAT. THEREFORE, WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS ACTUALLY DEBATED, I DON'T THINK IT HAD ANY INSIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT OVER HALF THE ISSUES THAT DEALT WITH THE DEFENSE OF THIS COUNTRY. IN FACT, THE CONSTITUTION IN MAJOR PART WAS HOW WE DEFEND THIS COUNTRY. THIS ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY, THIS BILL IS ON HOW WE SHAPE THE MILITARY OF THE FUTURE AND THE MILITARY OF THE PRESENT, HOW WE DEFEND THIS COUNTRY. I REMIND PEOPLE BEFORE WORLD WAR II STARTED, WE HAD MADE A DECISION IN THIS COUNTRY WE DIDN'T NEED FIGHTER JETS ANY MORE SO WE CUT PRODUCTION OF THEM. AND WHEN THE WAR STARTED WE WERE UNPREPARED. OUR FIGHTER BOMBERS SUFFERED ENORMOUS CASUALTIES IN THOSE FIRST RUNS IN EUROPE. IN FACT, WE SUSPENDED OUR BOMBING RUNS UNTIL WE COULD PRODUCE THE FIGHTERS TO ACCOMPANY THOSE BOMBERS THAT WERE NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO WERE FIGHTING IN WORLD WAR II. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF BEING UNPREPARED IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT IS THE CORE OF THIS BILL. THIS BILL IS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR MILITARY SO WE ARE PREPARED FOR WHATEVER FUTURE MAY BRING. THE BASE OF THIS BILL RESTORES APPROXIMATELY $4 BILLION IN AUTHORIZATION OF NECESSARY DEPARTMENT FUNDING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PRESIDENT FOR DELETION. SOMETIME AGO SECRETARY PANETTA WENT ON RECORD PUBLICLY SAYING THE POSSIBILITY OF SEQUESTRATION WOULD HALLOW OUT AND HAVE CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS ON THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. MUST BE AVOIDED AND WE AGREE. THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO DO THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SECRETARY POINTED THE FING OF CONGRESS SAYING WE WERE TO BLAME FOR THE SITUATION. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, THE SECRETARY WAS HALF RIGHT. WE SHARE IN THE SITUATION AND WE SHARE THE NEED FOR A COOPERATIVE ADMINISTRATION AND THE VERY PARTICULAR A COOPERATIVE PRESIDENT, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF TO FIX THE IMMEDIATE THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY THAT COULD COME BACK BY SEQUESTRATION. WE DON'T NEED THREATS OF VETOES AND ANY ATTEMPT TO ROLL BACK THE SEQUESTRATION CUTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. . THIS IS ALARMING. MANY OF US IN CONGRESS WOULD ENCOURAGE SECRETARY PANETTA TO ENCOURAGE THE URGENCY OF THIS NEED TO HIS BOSS, THE PRESIDENT, TRY TO PERSUADE HIM NOT TO OPPOSE WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO IN THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WE HAVE SOME MILITARY CONSTRUCTION REPLACEMENT PROJECTS NEEDED YESTERDAY AND ARE BEING DEFERRED YEAR AFTER YEAR. PUSHED SO FAR INTO THE FUTURE AS TO RENDER THEM MEANINGLESS. WE CAN NO LONGER MAKE THOSE KIND OF MISTAKES AS WE DID PRIOR TO WORLD WAR II. OUR ICBM FLEET WILL BE AGING OUT IN THE NEXT 12 TO 15 YEARS AND AS OF YET WE DO NOT HAVE AN ADEQUATE REPLACEMENT POLICY NOR HAVE WE PROVIDE THE THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT FUNDING NEEDED FOR A FOLLOW-UP REPLACEMENT SYSTEM. INSTEAD WE ARE URGING WHAT WILL AMOUNT TO UNILATERAL NUCLEAR REDUCTIONS ON OR PART WHILE CHINA, RUSSIA, INDIA, AND OTHERS ARE DEVELOPING AND FIELDING OTHER NUCLEAR SYSTEMS FOR THEIR COUNTRIES AS WELL. THOSE ARE THE SITUATIONS WHICH WE NEED TO FACE. THAT IS WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT. THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL ADDRESSES. THIS BILL ADDRESSES THE FUNDING AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF OUR MILITARY. AND WE SHOULD NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF THAT KOREAN FOR THIS BILL. AND AMENDMENTS ALL 141 OF THEM, EITHER HAVE TO ADD TO THAT CONCEPT OF MAKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE VIABLE OR WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAN GENTS. THIS IS NOT THE AVENUE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR PLACES TO BE. IN SHORT, I WASN'T SHORT, BUT IN LONG THEN, MADAM SPEAKER, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE CONSERVATION ACT. THAT'S WHAT THE BASE BILL DOES. THAT'S WHAT THE BULK OF THE 140 AMENDMENTS WE HAVE AUTHORIZED DO. AND WE NEED TO PROCEED WITHOUT GETTING LOST IN THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS AND WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT. IT IS OUR CORE CONSTITUTION RESPONSIBILITY AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT WILL BE ADDRESSED. AND THE ISSUE OF OUR POLICY IN AFGHANISTAN, WHICH HAS MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ADDRESSED, WILL BE ADDRESSED ON THE FLOOR. THERE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT MADE IN ORDER. THERE WILL BE TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND DEBATE ON THAT AS ANY OF THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUES OF HOW WE SHAPE OUR MILITARY FORCES. AND THE REASON IT IS SO SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE MILITARY WILL BE IN THE MONT OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE MILITARY TODAY INFLUENCE WHAT OUR MILITARY WILL BE IN 15 TO 20 YEARS. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES WHAT DIPLOMATIC CAPACITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES WE MAY HAVE 15 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND THAT IS WHY IT IS SO SIGNIFICANT. AND WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT LOSE TRACK OF WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL AND ANY AMENDMENT THAT DISTRACTS US FROM THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE IN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. I'LL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME, THIS IS A FAIR RULE. WE HAVE MADE 140 OF THE 240 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN ORDER. IT COVERS A GREAT VARIETY OF ISSUES. ISSUES THAT PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED IN THE COMMITTEE AS WELL, BUT THEY WILL BE COVERED AGAIN HERE ON THE FLOOR. INCLUDING, INCLUDING WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A POLICY IN AFGHANISTAN. I URGE ADOPTION OF THIS PARTICULAR RULE BECAUSE IT IS A FAIR RULE, ONE THAT MAKES MORE AMENDMENTS THAN WE DID IN YEARS AND YEARS PAST WHEN THE OTHER SIDE WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS. IT'S A GOOD BILL. IT'S A FAIR RULE. I URGE ITS ADOPTION. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. AND MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

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  • 02:04:16 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE QUESTION IS ON ORDERING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL…

    THE QUESTION IS ON ORDERING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED WILL SAY NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 02:04:27 PM

    MR. MCGOVERN

    I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ASKED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ASKED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 AND CLAUSE 9 OF RULE 20, THIS 15-MINUTE VOTE ON ORDERING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION WILL BE FOLLOWED BY FIVE-MINUTE VOTE ON ADOPTING THE RULE IF ORDERED AND MOTIONS TO SUSPEND THE RULES WITH REGARD TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 568 AND H.R. 5740. THIS WILL BE A 15-MINUTE VOTE. A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 02:28:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 238 AND THE NAYS ARE 182. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 238 AND THE NAYS ARE 182. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED.

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  • 02:28:47 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 236. AND THE NAYS ARE 182. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 236. AND THE NAYS ARE 182. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE CHAIR WOULD ASK ALL PRESENT TO RISE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A MOTION OF SILENCE. THE CHAIR ASKS THAT THE HOUSE NOW OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN REMEMBRANCE OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN THE SERVICE OF OUR NATION IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND FOR ALL OF THEIR FAMILIES AND OF ALL THOSE WHO SERVED IN OUR ARMED FORCES AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES AS WELL.

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  • 02:30:39 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, FIVE-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE. THE QUESTION IS ON…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, FIVE-MINUTE VOTING WILL CONTINUE. THE QUESTION IS ON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. THOSE IN FAVOR VOTE AYE. OPPOSED SAY NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. MR.

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  • 02:31:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    A RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE. A…

    A RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 02:37:51 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 244. THE NAYS ARE 178. THE RESOLUTION IS…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 244. THE NAYS ARE 178. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON THE TABLE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE VOTE ON THE MOTION OF THE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM FLORIDA, MS. ROS-LEHTINEN, TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND AGREE TO H.R. -- H.RES. 568 AS AMENDED ON WHICH THE YEAS AND NAYS WERE ORDERED. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION.

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  • 02:38:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    568, RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES…

    568, RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF PREVENTING THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAN FROM ACQUIRING A NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAPABILITY.

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  • 02:38:36 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE --

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE --

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 401. THE NAYS ARE 11. AND THERE ARE NINE…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 401. THE NAYS ARE 11. AND THERE ARE NINE PRESENT. 2/3 HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED, THE RESOLUTION IS AGREED TO AND WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE VOTE ON THE MOTION OF THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MRS. BIGGERT, TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS H.R. 5740 ON WHICH THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

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  • 02:46:36 PM

    THE CLERK

    BILL TO EXTEND THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, AND FOR OTHER…

    BILL TO EXTEND THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 02:46:42 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS THE BILL. MEMBERS…

    QUESTION IS WILL THE HOUSE SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS THE BILL. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A FIVE-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 02:52:58 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 402. THE NAYS ARE 18. 2/3 HAVING RESPONDED IN…

    ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS ARE 402. THE NAYS ARE 18. 2/3 HAVING RESPONDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED, THE BILL IS PASSED, AND WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE AN ENROLLED BILL.

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  • 02:53:34 PM

    THE CLERK

    ACT TO PREEMPT THE TERMINATION OF THE TEMPORARY OFFICE OF BANKRUPTCY…

    ACT TO PREEMPT THE TERMINATION OF THE TEMPORARY OFFICE OF BANKRUPTCY JUDGES IN CERTAIN JUDICIAL DISTRICTS.

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  • 03:07:57 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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    >>

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

  • 03:08:20 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    CONSENT THAT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BE MODIFIED IN THE MANNER I HAVE…

    CONSENT THAT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BE MODIFIED IN THE MANNER I HAVE PLACED AT THE DESK.

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  • 03:08:34 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 4130. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. YODER, PLEASE TAKE THE CHAIR?

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  • 03:09:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE…

    IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H R. 4310, WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 03:09:12 PM

    THE CLERK

    AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF…

    AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTH FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 03:09:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ROSE ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 16, ALL TIME…

    WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ROSE ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 16, ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAD EXPIRE FED. NO FURTHER GENERAL DEBATE SHALL BE ORER. IN LIEU OF THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF THE SUBSTITUTE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES PRINTED IN THE BILL, IT SHALL BE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE, AN AMENDMENT CONSISTING OF THE TEXT PRINTED IN 112-132. NO AMENDMENT TO THAT AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE SHALL BE IN ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 AND AMENDMENTS EN BLOC DESCRIBES IN SECTION THREE OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 661. EACH AMENDMENT PRINTED IN THE REPORT SHALL BE CONSIDERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT, MAY BE OFFERED ONLY BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT, SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO DEMAND FOR THE DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. IT SHALL BE IN ORDER AT ANY TIME FOR THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES TO OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC. SUCH AMENDMENTS EN BLOC SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT OR DEMAND FOR THE DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. THE ORIGINAL PROPONENT OF THE AMENDMENT MAY INSERT A STATEMENT IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE DISPOSITION OF THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:11:13 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER ONE, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    NUMBER ONE, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON.

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  • 03:11:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:11:34 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    AMENDMENT BE MODIFIED IN THE MANNER AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    READ THE MODIFICATION.

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    THE CLERK

    AT THENED OF THE AMENDMENT ADD THE FOLLOWING, AT THE END OF SUBTITLE A OF…

    AT THENED OF THE AMENDMENT ADD THE FOLLOWING, AT THE END OF SUBTITLE A OF TITLE 7, ADD THE FOLLOWING, SECTION 704, CERTAIN TREATMENT OF AUTISM UNDER TRICARE, A, IN GENERAL, SECTION 1077 OF TITLE 10, UNITED STATES CODE, IS AMENDED BY ADDING AT THE END OF THE FOLLOWING NEW SUBSECTION G-1.

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  • 03:12:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CLERK MAY CONTINUE.

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    THE CLERK

    HEALTH CARE UNDER SUBSECTION A UNDER PARAGRAPH 3-A, THE TREATMENT OF…

    HEALTH CARE UNDER SUBSECTION A UNDER PARAGRAPH 3-A, THE TREATMENT OF AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDERS SHALL INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT, INCLUDING APLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS WHEN PRESCRIBED BY A PHYSICIAN. TWO --

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  • 03:12:36 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    IS --

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    THE CHAIR

    OBJECTION TO DISPENSING WITH THE READING? IS WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE…

    OBJECTION TO DISPENSING WITH THE READING? IS WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE READING IS DISPENSED. IS THERE OBJECTION TO MODIFYING THE AMENDMENT? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS MODIFYING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA MAY CONTINUE.

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  • 03:13:05 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    LONG AND HARD, THE STAFF HAS WORKED LONG AND HARD TO GET US TO THIS POINT.…

    LONG AND HARD, THE STAFF HAS WORKED LONG AND HARD TO GET US TO THIS POINT. THIS MANAGER'S AMENDMENT HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH BOTH SIDES. WE HAVE UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ON IT. IT'S A GOOD BILL, A GOOD ADDITION TO THE BILL, AND SKI THAT IT BE APPROVED.

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  • 03:13:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON SEEKS RECOGNITION.

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    MR. SMITH

    THOUGH I'M NOT OPPOSED I CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION. I YIELD TWO AND A HALF…

    THOUGH I'M NOT OPPOSED I CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION. I YIELD TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO MR. BERMAN, RANKING MEMBER ON THE COMMITTEE.

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  • 03:13:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BERMAN

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AN THANK YOU, MR. -- AND THANK YOU, MR.…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AN THANK YOU, MR. -- AND THANK YOU, MR. SMITH FOR YIELDING ME THIS TIME. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT BUT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE SMITH AMENDMENT WHICH IS PART OF THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT WHICH WILL BE TAKEN UP NEXT. I'M PLEASED TO JOIN RANKING MEMBER SMITH, CHAIRMAN MCKEON, FOREIGN AFFAIRS CHAIR ROS-LEHTINEN AS SPONSOR OF THE SMITH AMENDMENT. I'M PARTICULARLY PLEASED THAT THIS AMENDMENT INCORPORATES MOST OF H R. 3288, THE SAFEGUARDING UNITED STATES SATELLITE LEADERSHIP AND SECURITY ACT, LEGISLATION I INTRODUCED LAST NOVEMBER ALONG WITH DANMY SIOUX LOW -- DAN MISSOULA AND OTHER, WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY 12 OTHER CO-SPONSORS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, MANY OF WHOM ARE ALSO CO-SPONSORS OF THIS AMENDMENT. THIS BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE EN BLOC, WOULD HELP RESTORE AMERICA'S GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS IN HIGH TECH SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY AND PROTECT VITAL U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST. TREATING COMMERCIAL SATELLITES AND COMPONENTS AS IF THEY WERE LETHAL WEAPON, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO FRIEND OR FOE, HAS GRAVELY HARMED AMERICAN SPACE MANUFACTURERS. A VIEW BORNE OUT BY MANY INDUSTRY STUDIES AND ASSESSMENTS AND THE RECENT REPORT TO CONGRESS. WE DEPEND ON THESE MANUFACTURERS FOR CRITICAL NEEDS IF ONEROUS RESTRICTIONS COMPLETE THEM FROM -- PREVENT THEM FROM COMPETING IN THE INTERNATIONAL MARKETPLACE, THEY CANNOT INNOVATE AND SURVIVE. THIS ALSO IMPACTS U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY, IT INCLUDES A STRICT PROHIBITION ON ANY SATELLITE EXPORTS TO CHINA. THE ORNLAL CONCERN THAT CAUSED CONGRESS TO TRANSFER ALL SATELLITES TO THE MUNITIONS LIST AS WELL AS TO IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SUDAN AND CUBA. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, I THANK THE CHAIR AND RANKING MEMBER FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:16:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. KEION, IS RECOGNIZED. -- MR. MCKEON IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:16:20 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HELPING BUSINESSES AND BEING ABLE TO DO BUSINESS…

    I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HELPING BUSINESSES AND BEING ABLE TO DO BUSINESS ABROAD WHILE STILL PROTECTING THE SECURITY OF AMERICA. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS?

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  • 03:16:33 PM

    MR. SMITH

    I'M GOING TO CLOSE ON MY SIDE.

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    MR. SMITH

    MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I SUPPORT THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT. I AM GOING TO SPEAK…

    MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I SUPPORT THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT. I AM GOING TO SPEAK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME ON THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT COMING UP LATER THAT'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF DISTORTED INFORMATION GOING OUT. I WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOME OF IT. THE GOHMERT AMENDMENT BEING OFFERED DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. YOU WILL STILL BE SUBJECT TO MILITARY CUSTODY AND INDEFINITE DETENTION. IT IS NOT CLEAR ON THAT POINT. LEAVES OPEN THE POSSIBILITY THE PRESIDENT WILL MAINTAIN THAT AUTHORITY AND THAT IS WHAT THIS DEBATE SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT. THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW HAS THE AUTHORITY TO GO OUTSIDE THE NORMAL DUE PROCESS CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS THAT ARE PART OF A COURT TRIAL AND LOCK SOMEBODY UP INDEFINITELY OR PLACE THEM IN MILITARY CUSTODY HERE IN THE U.S. THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF POWER TO GIVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OVER INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO KEEP US SAFE. 10 YEARS OF SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTING, CONVICTING AND LOCKING UP TERRORISTS UNDER ARTICLE 3 COURTS HAVE PROVEN THAT. HANDS DOWN THE DUMBEST SET OF ARGUMENTS I HAVE HEARD IN DEBATING THAT IS CIRCULATING THAT SOMEHOW TAKING AWAY THIS EXTRAORDINARY POWER FROM THE PRESIDENT REWARDS TERRORISTS. I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY, IN PARTICULARLY, TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES, THAT JUST BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT ARRESTS YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GUILTY. UNDER THEIR THINKING, BASICALLY ONCE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU'RE A TERRORIST, YOU'RE A TERRORIST. AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A TRIAL ABOUT IT. SO ANY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A PROCESS, TO MAKE SURE YOU ACTUALLY ARE A TERRORIST, BECOMES REWARDING THEM. NO, IT'S THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY GUILTY. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU'RE GUILTY OF A CRIME, THAT'S IT. NO TRIAL, NO PROCESS. LET'S JUST LOCK YOU UP AND FORGET ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A COURT SYSTEM. LET'S HAVE THE REAL DEBATE HERE. DOES THE PRESIDENT NEED THIS AUTHORITY TO KEEP US SAFE? I DON'T BELIEVE HE DOES. LET'S STOP THESE RIDICULOUS ARGUMENTS ABOUT REWARDING TERRORISTS AND HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND DUE PROCESS AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:18:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK THE REMAINDER OF HIS TIME. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK THE REMAINDER OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:19:04 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    WAS THE GENTLEMAN -- THAT WAS YOUR CLOSING REMARK? AT THIS POINT, MR.…

    WAS THE GENTLEMAN -- THAT WAS YOUR CLOSING REMARK? AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD THE REMAINDER BALANCE OF OUR TIME TO THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY.

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  • 03:19:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TIME.

  • 03:19:23 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    I ASKED AGAIN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS CONTROLS THE TIME.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    THAT MEANS IS AS SOON AS A MEMBER OF AL QAEDA SETS FOOT ON AMERICAN SOIL…

    THAT MEANS IS AS SOON AS A MEMBER OF AL QAEDA SETS FOOT ON AMERICAN SOIL THE FIRST THING HE HEARS AFTER YOU ARE UNDER ARREST, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY AND IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD ONE ONE WILL BE PROVIDED FOR YOU. THE QUESTION IS HOW WE SHOULD TREAT MEMBERS OF AL QAEDA TO CONDUCT TERRORIST ATTACKS, BUT I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS BODY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY DO NOT THINK TELLING THEM THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT AS THE FIRST THING THEY HEAR IS A WISE THING. SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE ARGUMENTS -- AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TO READ THE LETTER THEMSELVES. I WOULD ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TO LOOK AT TODAY'S WALL STREET JOURNAL JOURNAL -- "WALL STREET JOURNAL" EDITORIAL AND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION EDITORIAL ON THEIR WEBSITE TO LOOK AT HOW SIGNIFICANT THESE ISSUES ARE, THOUSAND HE HAD WOULD UNDERMINE -- HOW THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT WOULD UNDERMINE OUR ABILITY TO HELP PEOPLE AND HOW IT IS UNFAIR TO CHARACTERIZE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY A DOZEN OR EIGHT TO 10 FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS AS SOMEHOW FOOLISH OR SILLY. I THINK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN DO BETTER WITH THAT AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:22:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT, AS…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT, AS MODIFIED, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED IS AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:22:53 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TO H.RES. 661, I OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC.

  • 03:22:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC?

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    THE CLERK

    HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MCKEON OF CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:23:42 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE THE COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC, ALL OF…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE THE COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN EXAMINED BY BOTH THE MAJORITY AND THE MINORITY. MR. CHAIR, I YIELD AT THIS TIME ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. GALLEGLY.

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  • 03:23:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. GALLEGLY

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND ALSO RANKING MEMBER SMITH FOR ALL THEIR WORK IN PUTTING THIS BILL TOGETHER. MY AMENDMENT, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE EN BLOC, WILL ADDRESS THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THE EXPANSION OF SEA OTTERS INTO THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL WATERS. WITH THE OFFICIAL TERMINATION OF THE SEA OTTER CONTAINMENT ZONE BY THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, SEA OTTERS WILL BEGIN TO MIGRATE SOUTH. AS THEY DO THIS THEY WILL BE INVADING U.S. NAVAL TESTING AREAS. WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT THE RECOVERY EFFORTS OF THE SEA OTTER, THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. BY CREATING MILITARY READINESS AREAS AROUND ST. NICHOLAS ISLAND, ST. CLEMENTE ISLAND AND CAMP PENDLETON, SEA OTTERS WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR RANGE. AT THE SAME TIME THE NAVY WILL TAKE EXEMPTION WHICH ALLOWS THE NAVY TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS OFF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COAST WITHOUT HARMING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. FURTHER, WHILE IMPLEMENTING A PLAN FOR THE RECOVERY OF SEA OTTERS, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE NAVY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ON RECOVERY EFFORTS FOR OTHER ENDANGERED AND THREATENED SPECIES, AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CONTINUING A VIABLE COMMERCIAL HARVEST FISH HE WEREYS.

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  • 03:25:24 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN AN ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS.

  • 03:25:28 PM

    MR. GALLEGLY

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:25:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    TO THE AGENTS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. WHETHER AN ALEAP IS ARRESTED,…

    TO THE AGENTS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. WHETHER AN ALEAP IS ARRESTED, WE WANT THEM ARRESTED, TRIED AND CONVICTED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ACTUALLY ARE A TERRORIST IS A TERRORIST BEFORE WE DO THAT, TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE SO THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE THAT POWER TO SIMPLY LOCK SOMEBODY OUT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS AND A TRIAL. AND THEN THE ARGUMENT ABOUT HOW WE ARE BESTOWING UPON ILLEGAL ALIENS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. I HAVE BAD NEWS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. WE AREN'T BESTOWING ANYTHING. THE CONSTITUTION BESTOWS UPON THEM THOSE RICE. THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION SAYS ANY PERSON IN THE U.S., NOT CITIZENS, NOT LEGAL, IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO IF HE HAS A BEEF, IF HE HAS A BEEF WITH JAMES MADISON AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO SUPPORTED THE CONSTITUTION, AND WE HEAR CONSTANTLY FROM THAT SIDE STRICT INTERPRETATION, THE CONSTITUTION MUST BE ADHERED TO. THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ANY PERSON, NOT ANY LAWFUL RESIDENT OR ANY CITIZEN. THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION CLEARLY SAYS THAT. WE ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING. THE GOHMERT AMENDMENT GOES OUTSIDE THE CONSTITUTION THAT CREATES RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN HERE, SEPARATING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHO SHOULD GET WHAT RIGHTS. IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION, ANY PERSON. I YIELD -- I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:27:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:27:06 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY, ONE MINUTE.

  • 03:27:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 03:27:12 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE STRONG VIEWS OF THE…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE STRONG VIEWS OF THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER. I WOULD JUST SAY THERE IS A REAL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT TO WHAT EXTENT U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WHICH EACH OF US AS CITIZENS ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE ARE BESTOWED UPON ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN AS SOON AS THEY SET FOOT IN THIS COUNTRY. NOW, THERE ARE PLACES IN THE CONSTITUTION IT SAYS PERSONS. THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IT TALKS ABOUT ACCUSED. BUT I WOULD POINT BACK TO SOME OF THE VERY CASE LAW FROM THE SUPREME COURT SUCH AS THE HYUNDAI DECISION WHICH REFERENCES THE DIFFERENCE IN PROCEDURE THAT IS TO -- THAT DUE PROCESS REQUIRES FOR A CITIZEN VERSUS A NONCITIZEN. IT IS NOT A CLEAR-CUT THING TO SAY AS SOON AS YOU SET FOOT ON THIS SOIL THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. AND THE PART THE GENTLEMAN, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT MANY OF US HAVE IS WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, THAT PREVENTS US FROM GETTING THE INTELLIGENCE, THE INFORMATION THAT PREVENTS THE ATTACK OF YOUR BUDDY, THE GUY NEXT TO YOU. THAT'S GOT TO BE FACTORED IN HERE TOO.

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  • 03:28:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. LEWIS

    I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT…

    I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT WHICH INCLUDES MY AMENDMENT, IT REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, THE R.S. AND COMMERCE TO CALCULATE THE TOTAL COST OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ TO EACH AMERICAN TAXPAYER. MY AMENDMENT IS ABOUT TRUTH AND TRANSPARENCY. AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW HOW THEIR TAXES HAVE BEEN SPENT SO WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT OUR BUDGET. EVEN IF YOU DO NOT OPPOSE WAR, DON'T YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN AND YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN? FOR TOO LONG THERE HAS BEEN A BIG FAT BLANK CHECK FOR WAR. WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES. WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HOPE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THE LEWIS AMENDMENT AND THIS EN BLOC PACKAGE. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 03:29:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COLLOQUY.

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  • 03:29:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MRS. BONO MACK

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THIS COLLOQUY AND I'D LIKE TO THANK HIM, MY GOOD…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THIS COLLOQUY AND I'D LIKE TO THANK HIM, MY GOOD FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS HARD WORK IN CRAFTING THIS BILL IN SUPPORT OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE MILITARY. AS YOU KNOW, THESE MEN AND WOMEN SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES TO GUARANTEE OUR SAFETY. IN RETURN, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE FOR THEM. SPECIFICALLY, I'M RETURNING TO AN ISSUE OF GROWING IMPORTANCE TO OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS PROTECTING OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN FROM THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG MISUSE. BECAUSE OF A PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL HARDSHIPS WE PLACE ON OUR TROOPS, THEY ARE AT AN INCREASED USE FOR USING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND THEREFORE MISUSING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE PAIN MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE OF D.O.D. TO MITIGATE THE USE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND VETERANS' ADMINISTRATION ADOPT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR HELP AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT MOVES INTO CONFERENCE. AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN.

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  • 03:31:07 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. BLMNAUR

    THE AMAZING ADVANCE OF TECHNOLOGY WHICH RENDERED MUCH OF IT OBSOLETE. WE…

    THE AMAZING ADVANCE OF TECHNOLOGY WHICH RENDERED MUCH OF IT OBSOLETE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REFORM TO DELIVER GREATER CLARITY AND EFFICIENCY. I THINK YOUR AMENDMENT MAKES PROGRESS. I HAVE THREE CONCERNS, PROVISIONS FIRST OF ALL THAT DEAL WITH THE REQUIREMENT THE ADMINISTRATION MAY BE CALLED UPON TO SPECIFY INDIVIDUALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PARTS THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED, A REQUIREMENT THAT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH, THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES SEVEN NEW REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF LITTLE USE BUT TAKING VALUABLE TIME AWAY FROM ENFORCEMENT AND FINALLY THE AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THE PRESIDENT'S EXISTING AUTHORITY IN PLACE SINCE 1998 TO WAIVE RESTRICTION ON SATELLITE EXPORTS LIMITING HIS ABILITY TO CONDUCT FOREIGN POLICY. I COMMEND THE GOOD WORK THAT IS IN THE BILL AND HOPE THESE PROVISIONS CAN BE ADDRESSED AS THE LEGISLATION MOVES FORWARD. I THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:33:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RESERVE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS…

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:33:15 PM

    MR. SMITH

    YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. VISCLOSKY.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. VISCLOSKY

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING AND I RISE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN THAT…

    I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING AND I RISE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN THAT AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. TURNER THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT DOES NOT CURE PROVISIONS IN THE UNDERLYING BILL THAT WE CAN EN-- THAT WEAKEN ENFORCE. OF WORKER HEALTH AND SAFETY AND CREATES A SELF-REGULATION REGIME FOR CONTRACTORS AT THE NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION THAT I BELIEVE WILL PLACE PROFIT ABOVE SAFETY. SECTION 3115 WOULD MOVE ENFORCEMENT OF WORKER HEALTH AND SAFETY FROM THE OFFICE OF HEALTH, SAFETY AND SECURITY TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION. A DECISIONALLY, IT RESTRICTS THE OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY OF THE DEFENSE NUCLEAR FACILITY'S SAFETY BOARD, A BOARD THAT'S PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN INDEPENDENTLY ADDRESSING WORKER SAFETY AT LARGE D.O.E. PROJECTS. I WOULD QUOLET FROM THIS YEAR'S HOUSE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS REPORT, ACCOMPANYING THE FISCAL YEAR 2013 NRNL AND WATER BILL. I AM QUOTING THE REPORT. THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT HAVING AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT CAPABILITY AT THE DEPARTMENT IS IMPORTANT AND SUPPORTS THE ROLE OF H.S.S.

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  • 03:34:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. THE…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:34:45 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. PINGREE

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING HIS TIME, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMENDMENT…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING HIS TIME, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMENDMENT I'M SPONSORING TODAY SENDS A LOUDED ON CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE DEPARTMENTS OF DEFENSE AND VETERANS AFFAIR. IT SEND THE MESSAGE THAT THE PROBLEM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY IS REAL AND SIGNIFICANT. IT SEND THE MESSAGE THAT THEY SHOULD LIVE UP TO THEIR PROMISE AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO BENEFITS FOR VICTIMS. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO SURVIVORS. THE MEN AND WOMEN I HAVE MET WITH WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE WERE DEDICATING THEIR LIVES TO A MILITARY CAREER WHEN THEY SUDDENLY FOUND OUT THEIR WORLD WAS CRASHING IN ON THEM WHEN THEY BECAME VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT WE HEAR THEM WE RECOGNIZE THE PAIN AND INJUSTICE THEY HAVE SUFFERED AND WE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT. I MET WITH SECRETARY PANETTA RECENTLY AND I KNOW HE UNDERSTAND THIS IS PROBLEM AND IS COMMITTED TO CHANGING THE CULTURE. WE CANNOT CALL THAT GOOD ENOUGH. WE NEED TO SAY IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT WE WILL NOT ALLOW THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM TO BECOME VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET THOSE WHO WAITED TOO LONG FOR THE BENEFITS THEY DESERVE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:36:07 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    CAN I ASK HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON HAS FIVE MINUTES REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS…

    FROM WASHINGTON HAS FIVE MINUTES REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 6 1/4 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 03:36:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. MURPHY

    I RISE TODAY TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER 97 THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS EN…

    I RISE TODAY TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER 97 THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS EN BLOC PACKAGE. THIS WILL ALLOW AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS TO COMPETE FAIRLY FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CONTRACTS. MY STATE WHICH HAS BUILT SUBMARINES FOR THE NAVY AND SUPPLIED OUR ARMED SERVICES FOR GENERATIONS LOST ABOUT 130,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS AND THIS COUNTRY HAS LOST ABOUT SIX MILLION. AT THE SAME TIME, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS BEEN AGGRESSIVELY OUTSOURCING WORK TO FOREIGN FIRMS. INSTEAD OF FINDING WAYS TO GET AROUND THE BUY AMERICA LAW, THEY SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO PROTECT MANUFACTURING JOB HERE'S AT HOME. WHEN WE LOSE THE CAPACITY TO PRODUCE AN ITEM OUR MILITARY NEEDS, WE PUT OURSELVES AT RISK AND WE ALSO LOSE JOBS THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF JOBS BEING CREATED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AS PART OF A BID FOR DEFENSE WORK. MOST OF OUR CONSTITUENTS PROBABLY THINK THIS ALREADY HAPPENS BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT FOR JOB CROWATION BUT ALSO FOR U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY. I'D LIKE TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND RANKING MEMBER SMITH FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE.

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  • 03:37:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RESERVE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA,

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    MS. CHU

    PERSONAL REASON FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT, MY NEPHEW WAS HAZED IN THE…

    PERSONAL REASON FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT, MY NEPHEW WAS HAZED IN THE ARMY AND IT KILLED HIM. THEY STOMPED, KICKED, PUNCHED HIM AND POURED THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF A SANDBAG ONTO HIS FACE AND IN HIS MOUTH. IT LASTED THREE HOURS AND 20 MINUTES. 20 MINUTES LATER, HE COMMITTED SUICIDE. I THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND WILSON AND RANKING MEMBER SMITH BECAUSE THIS BILL TAKES THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STEPS TO PROTECT SERVICE MEMBERS FROM HAZING EVER. MY AMENDMENT ADDS A G.A.O. REPORT TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OF THE D.O.D.'S ANTI-HAZING POLICIES. IT ALSO ADDS AN ANNUAL REPORT TO CONGRESS ON WHAT THE D.O.D. IS DOING TO PREVENT HAZING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS REAL ACCOUNTABILITY.

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  • 03:38:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 03:38:51 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES.

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    MR. MCKEON

    HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    WE YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME.

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    MR. MCKEON

    ALL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF…

    ALL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME.

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  • 03:39:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    >>

    AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH OF OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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  • 03:40:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    THE ADMINISTRATION'S USE OF SIGNATURE STRIKES RISKS DEATH OR INJURY TO…

    THE ADMINISTRATION'S USE OF SIGNATURE STRIKES RISKS DEATH OR INJURY TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE HAD NO RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES. A RECENT REPORT BY THE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM ESTIMATES THAT AT LEAST 2,292 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY U.S. DRONE STRIKES IN PAKISTAN SINCE 2004. THE BUREAU ESTIMATES THAT OF THAT NUMBER, OVER 350 ARE CIVILIANS. A JULY, 2009, BROOKINGS INSTITUTION REPORT STATED 10 CIVILIANS DIE FOR EVERY ONE SUSPECTED MILITANT FROM U.S. DRONE STRIKES. YET ANOTHER STUDY BY THE NEW AMERICAN FOUNDATION CONCLUDED THAT OUT OF THE 114 DRONE ATTACKS IN PAKISTAN, AT LEAST 32% OF THOSE KILLED BY THE STRIKES WERE CIVILIANS. AGAIN, THAT WAS BEFORE WE ALLOWED DRONE STRIKES BASED ONLY ON SIGNATURE BEHAVIORS. WE CANNOT DENY THAT OUR DONE STRIKES HAVE RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:41:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:41:24 PM

    >>

    I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    >>

    I YIELD A MINUTE AND A HALF TO THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER. THE…

    I YIELD A MINUTE AND A HALF TO THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 03:41:41 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    >>

    AND A HALF TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. ANDREWS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE AND A HALF.

  • 03:43:53 PM

    MR. ANDREWS

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARK.

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    MR. ANDREWS

    TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH A PERSON FOR WHOM I HAVE GREAT RESPECT. I…

    TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH A PERSON FOR WHOM I HAVE GREAT RESPECT. I KNOW HE OFFER THIS IS AMENDMENT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO AVOID A SITUATION WHERE OUR COUNTRY ARBITRARYLY TAKES NEBT HUMAN LIFE. EDGE HE'S RIGHT TO HAVE THAT CONCERN. I THINK IT'S ONE THAT'S WIDELY HELD. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE RAISED BY THIS AMENDMENT, THOUGH, IS WHETHER OTHERS CAN BE ENTRUSTED WITH STRIKING THAT SAME BALANCE OR WHETHER THE CONGRESS SHOULD ENACT A UNILATERAL PROHIBITION AGAINST CERTAIN KINDS OF ACTIVITIES. WHEN THE DECISIONMAKERS WHO OPERATE THESE DRONE STRIKES MAKE A DECISION, THEY HAVE TO STRIKE THIS BALANCE BETWEEN OUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO AVOID ARBITRARY ATTACKS ON INNOCENT PEOPLE AND OUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY. AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF STRIKING THAT BALANCE AND I FRANKLY THINK THAT A BLANKET PROHIBITION AGAINST THE USE OF THESE STRIKES EXCEPT IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE TARGET UNDULY RESTRICTS THEM MAKING THAT JUDGMENT. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THE GOAL OF THIS AMENDMENT BUT BECAUSE I THINK IT UNDULY RESTRICTS OUR OPTIONS, I URGE ITS DEFEAT AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:45:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, THE RANKING…

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, THE RANKING DEMOCRAT ON JUDICIARY, MR. CONYERS OF 3467.

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  • 03:45:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM -- OF MICHIGAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. CONYERS

    THE AUTHOR OF THE AMENDMENT AND I JOIN WITH HIM IN IT BECAUSE, LADIES AND…

    THE AUTHOR OF THE AMENDMENT AND I JOIN WITH HIM IN IT BECAUSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE ADMINISTRATION POLICY UP UNTIL NOW HAS BEEN QUITE CLEAR. DRONES PURSUE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS WHO APPEAR ON A TARGET LIST MAINTAINED BY THE C.I.A. AND INITIATE ATTACKS ONLY WHEN DRONE OPERATORS ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL BEING TARGETED IS A TERRORIST ON THAT LIST. NOW, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS TO ENSURE IS THAT THE MISSILE STRIKES BEING USED BY THE C.I.A. OR THE JOINT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND ARE TARGETING ACTUAL TERRORISTS THAT POSE A THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND NOT AGAINST CIVILIANS WHO MAY LOOK SPRISHES TO A DRONE OPERATE -- SUSPICIOUS TO A DRONE OPERATOR WHO IS OPERATING THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. AND SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS MERELY THAT A NEW EXPANDED DRONE POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR INDISCRIMINATE MISSILE STRIKES AGAINST SUPPOSEDLY SUSPICIOUS INDIVIDUALS OBVIOUSLY INCREASES THE RISK OF CIVILIAN DEATH AND RISK INFLAMING AN ALREADY POWERFUL ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT ABROAD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS POLICY WILL NOT MAKE US ANY SAFER. IT WILL DO JUST THE OPPOSITE. AND SO I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT OUR AMENDMENT SO THAT THE CONGRESS ASSURES THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND A MEASURED PRECISION AND DUE PROCESS ARE RETAINED AS CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR COUNTRY'S DRONE POLICY. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:47:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    TO CLOSE.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE ON THIS…

    PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE ON THIS AMENDMENT?

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  • 03:48:01 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE ON THIS AMENDMENT.

  • 03:48:05 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 03:48:16 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    I WOULD YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND,…

    I WOULD YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE EMERGING THREATS AND CAPABILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE.

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  • 03:48:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. LANGEVIN

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. LANGEVIN

    I YIELD 15 SECONDS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I YIELD 15 SECONDS.

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    MR. LANGEVIN

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. THERE ARE STRICT POLICIES ABOUT HOW THESE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. THERE ARE STRICT POLICIES ABOUT HOW THESE TOOLS CAN BE USED. IT COULD MITIGATE OR PREVENT AN ACTUAL ATTACK FROM MATERIALIZING. IT COULD PUT U.S. SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNDO HARM AND COLLATERAL DAMAGE AND HARM TO CIVILIANS IS MINIMAL. THIS CRITERIA CAN BE USED AND I THINK THAT'S A TOOL WE NEED TO PRESERVE. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:50:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN WILL STATE YOUR INQUIRY.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE, THE SPONSOR OF AN…

    AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE, THE SPONSOR OF AN AMENDMENT OR OPPONENT OF AN AMENDMENT?

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  • 03:50:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE OPPONENT REPRESENTING THE POSITION OF THE COMMITTEE HAS A RIGHT TO…

    THE OPPONENT REPRESENTING THE POSITION OF THE COMMITTEE HAS A RIGHT TO CLOSE.

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  • 03:50:53 PM

    MR. KUCINICH

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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    MR. KUCINICH

    CLOSE AND HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

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    MR. KUCINICH

    IN SUPPORT OF TRANSPARENCY OF THE DRONES ABROAD, OVERREACH IS UNCHECKED.…

    IN SUPPORT OF TRANSPARENCY OF THE DRONES ABROAD, OVERREACH IS UNCHECKED. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO RELEASE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR PERMITTING SO-CALLED SIGNATURE DRONE STRIKES. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO DISCLOSE WHETHER AND HOW THERE'S ANY FOLLOW-UP WITH THE FAMILIES OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS WHO DIE FROM A DRONE STRIKE. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO DISCLOSE WHETHER CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ARE COLLECTED, TRACKED AND ANALYZED. OUR AMENDMENT, THE CONYERS-KUCINICH AMENDMENT, RECOGNIZES THAT INNOCENT CIVILIANS SHOULD NOT BE COLLATERAL DAMAGE. IT RECOGNIZES THAT SENDING AN UNMANNED PLANE TO DROP BOMBS WITHOUT KNOWING THE IDENTITY OF A TARGET DOES NOT REFLECT AMERICAN VALUES. IT RECKS THAT DRONES -- IT RECOGNIZES THAT DRONES BOMBING PEOPLE OF UNKNOWN IDENTITY WILL GENERATE POWERFUL AND ENDURING ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT THAT PROLONG AND EXPANDS WARS. IT RECOGNIZES THAT CONGRESS DID NOT GIVE THE EXECUTIVE -- THE PRESIDENT UNLIMITED AND UNCHECKED POWER TO EXPAND OUR WARS ABROAD. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOES NOT EVEN BOTHER TO GIVE CONGRESS THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION TO DO SO. NOW, YOU KNOW, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE USE OF MILITARY FORCE IS BEING INTERPRETED, GIVEN CART BLANCHE TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS. WE OUGHT TO PUT AN END TO IT NOW. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 03:52:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 03:52:43 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT RAISES A NUMBER OF CONCERNS. IT IS…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT RAISES A NUMBER OF CONCERNS. IT IS A VERY STRANGE THING, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SAY IN A WAR YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE NAME, RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER OF THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SHOOT BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN SHOOT THEM. AND TO PUT IT A LITTLE MORE IN THIS CONTEXT, THIS AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO'S AMENDMENT WOULD SAY, IF WE SEE PEOPLE MAKING BOMBS DOWN THERE THAT WILL BE USED AGAINST OUR SERVICE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE'VE JUST GOT TO WATCH THEM AND THEN EVEN AFTER THE BOMB EXPLODES UNLESS WE KNOW THE IDENTITY -- WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE -- UNLESS WE KNOW THE PERSON DOWN THERE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE UNITED STATES. AND ACTUALLY GETS EVEN WORSE. IF WE SEE AL QAEDA MEMBERS SHOOTING AT OUR TROOPS DOWN THERE, IF WE DON'T KNOW THE EYE DEPARTMENTITY OR THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE SHOOTING, THEN WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SURELY THAT CARRIES THINGS FAR TOO FAR. WE CAN'T DEBATE IN THE OPEN HOUSE ALL OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE MADE IN NEWSPAPER ARTICLES. WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY WHAT THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR OF THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THAT THESE SORTS OF CAPABILITIES ARE ONLY USED PURSUANT TO LAW AND THEY ARE ONLY USED IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES WHERE ACTION COULD MITIGATE OR PREVENT THE THREAT AND COLLATERAL DAMAGE OR HARM TO CIVILIANS IS ABSOLUTELY MINIMAL. THAT HELPS PROTECT OUR SOLDIERS AND OUR COUNTRY.

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  • 03:54:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER, SEEM RECOGNITION?

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  • 03:54:41 PM

    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. ROHRABACHER OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:54:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 03:54:59 PM

    MR. ROHRABACHER

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. SINCE 9/11 THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. SINCE 9/11 THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN PAKISTAN ABOUT $ 2 BILLION -- 22 BILLION DOLLARS. THAT NUMBER IS TO EMBOLDEN PAKISTAN'S GOVERNMENT, TO MAINTAIN THE BRUTAL OPPRESSION OVER ITS PEOPLE AND TO CONTINUE ITS BLATANT SUPPORT OF TERRORIST ATTACKS ON NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES AS WELL AS ATTACKS ON AMERICAN TROOPS IN NEARBY AFGHANISTAN. MY AMENDMENT WOULD CUT OFF ALL AID IN THIS BILL DESIGNATED FOR PAKISTAN. IT WOULD END THE CHARADE THAT WE ARE BUYING COOPERATION IN THE ONGOING STRUGGLE AGAINST TERRORIST FORCES IN SOUTH ASIA. PAKISTAN ISN'T WITH US IN A WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US. PAKISTAN AT BEST IS A WAR PROFITEER, TAXING OUR MILITARY SUPPLIES THAT PASS THROUGH THEIR COUNTRY WHICH FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS, BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE CLOSED TO RESUPPLYING OUR FORCES IN AFGHANISTAN. THEY ARE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. OF COURSE, THE PAKISTANI PEOPLE WILL NEVER SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY. THE CORRUPTION IN PAKISTAN ITSELF IS REASON NOT TO GIVE AID TO THEM WHICH THEY WILL THEN PILFER. FURTHERMORE, THEY USE THEIR MILITARY POWER TO BUTCHER THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE UNDER THEIR CORRUPT THUMB. HOW CAN WE FORGET THIS SAME PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT GAVE SAFE HAVEN TO OSAMA BIN LADEN AFTER HE LED THE CONSPIRACY THAT SLAUGHTERED 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11 AFTER OUR SEALS WENT IN TO GET HIM, THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT TOOK THE WRECKAGE OF A DOWNED STEALTH HELICOPTER OF OURS AND GAVE IT FOR STUDY TO COMMUNIST CHINA WHOM THEY REFER TO AS OUR -- WHAT IS THE WORD NOW -- OUR ALL-WEATHER FRIEND NOW. THEY HAVE GONE SO FAR TO ARREST AND IMPRISON WITHOUT TRIAL A DOCTOR WHO HELPED US GATHER THE INTELLIGENCE THAT LOCATED OSAMA BIN LADEN IN THE NEST THAT THIS PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT HAD PROVIDED HIM RIGHT THERE IN PAKISTAN. THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT THREW HIM IN JAIL AND ARE TALKING ABOUT TRYING HIM FOR TREASON FOR THE GOOD HELP HE DID US IN BRINGING TO JUSTICE THE MAN WHO SLAUGHTERED 3,000 OF OUR CITIZENS. AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO GIVE MONEY TO THESE PEOPLE EVEN AS WE IGNORE THE SUFFERING OF THE DOCTOR WHO IS IN PRISON NOW LANGUISHING IN PRISON AND ALL OF US ARE FORGETTING THIS HERO? WE HAVE LOST ALMOST 2,000 AMERICANS WHO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY AS PART OF OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM. MOST OF THOSE DEATHS WERE DUE TO PAKISTANI-INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED INSURGENTS. HOW MUCH MORE DOES THE PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE QUICK GIVING THEM OUR MONEY? THEY ARE PLAYING US LIKE FOOLS WHILE MURDERING OUR SOLDIERS AND, YES, WE ARE ACTING LIKE FOOLS FOR GIVING THEM THIS MONEY DESPITE THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE QUIT BANK ROLLING THIS ROTTEN REGIME A LONG TIME AGO. MY AMENDMENT WOULD DO JUST THAT. THE PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT IS A TERRORIST GOVERNMENT THAT MURDERS AND EVEN ATTACKS ITS OWN PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE. THEY ARE A PRO-TERRORIST RADICAL ISLAMIC CLICQUE THAT RULES PAKISTAN. THEY DON'T DESERVE ONE PENNY FROM US. WE NEED TO FINALLY STAND UP. IF WE NEED AN ALLY IN IN A AREA, LET'S GO TO SOME PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT WANTS TO BE FRIENDS, PERHAPS THE INDIANS. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 03:58:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    MR. SMITH

    CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    MR. SMITH

    YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. CONAWAY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. CONAWAY

    I STRONGLY URGE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT WITH HEAVY HEART. SOME OF THE…

    I STRONGLY URGE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT WITH HEAVY HEART. SOME OF THE THINGS MY COLLEAGUE SAID IS ACCURATE. NEVERTHELESS, I DON'T WANT TO SEEM AS AN APOLOGIST TO PAKISTAN. WE HAVE TRIMMED THE MONEY BY HALF. WE HAVE STRENGTHENED THE CONTROLS AROUND THAT MONEY TO REQUIRE PAKISTAN TO CERTIFY TO US THROUGH SECRETARY PANETTA THAT IN FACT THIS MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN THE FIGHT AGAINST COUNTERTERRORISM. WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR THIS AFTERNOON THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION WHICH WILL FURTHER STRENGTHEN THEIR CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND BY RESTRICTING ALL FUNDS UNDER THE D.O.D. POSITION SIMPLY PLAYS IN THE BAD GUYS' HANDS IN PAKISTAN. IT WILL GIVE THEM NO INSENTIVE TO WORK WITH US AND WILL STRENGTHEN THEIR RESOLVE TO CLOSE THE CROSS-BORDER OVERLAND PASSAGE OF U.S. MILITARY GOODS TO ASSIST US WITH THE FIGHT IN AFGHANISTAN. WHAT MY GOOD FRIEND -- COLLEAGUE HAS MUCH GREATER EXPERIENCE OF THOSE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD THAN I DO, NEVERTHELESS, I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THAT AMENDMENT. IT'S A MEAT CLEAVER BY TRIMMING THE MONEY BACK, PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON THAT MONEY THAT WILL FORCE THE PAKISTANIS IN ORDER TO GET IT. BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN MONEY FROM D.O.D. SINCE JUNE OF 2010. SO WHILE THE COMMENTS ARE MADE MIGHT APPLY TO ALL FUNDING TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT ONLY APPLIES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MONEY. WE HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM MONEY SINCE JUNE OF 2010. WE HAVE ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS IN THE BILL THIS TIME AND WILL STRENGTHEN THE PROTECTIONS DURING DEBATE AND VOTES THIS AFTERNOON AND I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:00:52 PM

    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    LEE: I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES BUT I RISE IN VIGOROUS OPPOSITION AS THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE FOUNDS OF THE PAKISTAN CAUCUS TO THIS AMENDMENT. LET ME FRAME THE REASON. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A VERY RESPONSIBLE AND SIZABLE PAKISTANI AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT CHAMPIONS THE IDEA OF A DEMOCRATIC AND ECONOMICALLY STABLE PAKISTAN. IT WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO THAT BENAZIR BHUTTO WAS ASAS NAYS -- ASSASSINATED, HOWEVER THE GOVERNMENT THAT HAS CARRIED ON,ALL THOUGH LIVING IN A DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVING DIFFICULT CHALLENGES, IS A RESULT OF HER EFFORTS TO TRY TO BRING DEMOCRACY TO PAKISTAN. IF WE ABANDON THIS ASSISTANCE, OBVIOUSLY, DEFENSE ASSISTANCE, WE ABANDON THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, WE ABANDON THOSE WHO WANT AN EDUCATION, ECONOMIC STABILITY, WE ABANDON THOSE SOLDIERS IN THE PAKISTANI MILITARY WHO HAVE FALLEN IN BATTLE FIGHTING AGAINST TERRORISTS. WE WILL ABANDON THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE SWAT VALLEY, WE ABANDON THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE MOUNTAINS OF PAKISTAN, WE ABANDON THOSE WHO WANT DEMOCRACY AND WE'LL ABANDON PAKISTAN -- CAN I GET AN ADDITIONAL 25 SECONDS?

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  • 04:02:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    DEMOCRACY, AMBASSADOR SHERRY RAYMOND HERE, WHO INTERACTS WITH THE…

    DEMOCRACY, AMBASSADOR SHERRY RAYMOND HERE, WHO INTERACTS WITH THE CONGRESS. PAKISTAN IS AN EFFECTIVE ALLY WITH CHANNELS. WE SHOULD NOT THENY THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT AND TURN THE CORNER. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF PAKISTAN'S ALLIANCE, IT IS BETTER TO BE ENGAGED THAN NOT BE ENGAGED, LET US OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT,S THE WRONG DIRECTION TO GO. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:02:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I THINK ALL OF US SHARE THE FRUSTRATIONS VOICED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I THINK ALL OF US SHARE THE FRUSTRATIONS VOICED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA BUT HI AMENDMENT GOES TOO FAR. I AGREE WE SHOULD LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL ALLIES IN THE REGION. THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ALLY IN THE REGION THROUGH WHICH OUR MILITARY CAN BE SUPPLIED. SO FOR THE SAKE OF OUR TROOPS IN AFTER FAN STAN AS WELL AS A LOT OF TELEBROADER INTERESTS IN THE REGION, IT IS PORN FOR US TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PAKISTAN. AND AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM TEXAS SAYS, IN THE BILL NOW, WE CUT THE FUNDS FROM D.O.D. IN HALF AND WE REQUIRE A CERTIFICATION THAT PAKISTAN IS SUPPORTING OUR COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS, THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO DISMANT THEY WILL I.E.D. NETWORKS, THAT THEY WERE PREVENTING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR RELATED MATERIAL, THAT THEY ARE ISSUING VISAS IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR U.S. GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL INVOLVED IN COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS. WE PUT SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON ANY ASSISTANCE THEY GET. THAT'S A CARROT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO WORK WITH US RATHER THAN SAYING NO, YOU GET NOTHING.

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  • 04:04:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS…

    FROM CALIFORNIA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS 45 SECONDS REMAINING.

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  • 04:04:38 PM

    MR. ROHRABACHER

    PROCEED AND, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OTHER SIDE CLOSES?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE.

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    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I WILL PROCEED. I HAVE HERE 19 PAGES, I BELIEVE, 13 PAGES, OF RESTRICTIONS…

    I WILL PROCEED. I HAVE HERE 19 PAGES, I BELIEVE, 13 PAGES, OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD ON PAKISTAN AID OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 13 PAGES OF RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE MEANT NOTHING. DURING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS, THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING SAFE HAVEN TO OSAMA BIN LADEN, WHO MASSACRED AND SLAUGHTERED 3,000 AMERICANS. HOW CAN WE FORGET ABOUT THAT? HOW CAN WE JUST GO ON AND GIVE THESE PEOPLE MONEY? PAKISTAN IS OUR FRIEND, NO, THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN CAN BE OUR FRIEND, THEY ARE OUR FRIEND. BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT IS A TERRORIST SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT AND A RADICAL ISLAMIC SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT. AND WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM MONEY AS THEY SUPPORT INSURGENTS THAT KILL OUR PEOPLE OVERSEAS. IS THERE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THAT? ADMIRAL MULLEN CONFIRMED IT FOR US. WHY ARE WE IGNORING THAT? WE'RE ACTING LIKE FOOLS AND COWARDS. IT'S TIME FOR US TO STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN DEFENDER WHO ARE OVER THERE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE AND SAYING NO. IF WE CAN'T GIVE, IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE KILLING YOU, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT PERIOD. THAT'S GOING OVER THE LINE. I WOULD SUGGEST TO MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN DEFUNDING THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES.

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  • 04:06:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:06:14 PM

    MR. SMITH

    I YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    ARE NOT IGNORING ANY OF THAT. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE DISCUSSED IN THE…

    ARE NOT IGNORING ANY OF THAT. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE DISCUSSED IN THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, REGRETTABLY, PAKISTAN IS IN A PART OF THE WORLD WHERE WE HAVE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. PAKISTAN HASED A -- HAS AT VARIOUS TIME GIVEN CRITICAL SUPPORT TO GET SUPPLIES TO OUR TROOPS AND THEY HAVE ASSISTED US IN GOING AFTER VARIOUS TERRORIST GROUPS INSIDE PAKISTAN. THAT'S BEEN MAYBE 2% OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BUT THAT 2%, REGRETTABLY IS HELP WE CANNOT TURN AWAY. IT IS A VERY PROBLEMATIC RELATIONSHIP, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WHO OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT DESCRIBED THAT QUITE WELL BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO SIMPLY CUT IT OFF BECAUSE OF HOW IMPORTANT THAT REGION IS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. HIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO THAT AND IT'S BAD POLICY FOR THIS COUNTRY, BAD POLICY FOR OUR TROOPS AND BAD POLICY FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. THEREFORE I WOULD URGE US TO OPPOSE IT.

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  • 04:07:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 04:07:26 PM

    MR. ROHRABACHER

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN SEEKS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OR RULE 18, FURTHER…

    GENTLEMAN SEEKS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OR RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:07:43 PM

    >>

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER FIVE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MS. LEE OF…

    NUMBER FIVE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MS. LEE OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 04:07:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. LEE, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. LEE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL SIX MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 04:08:07 PM

    MS. LEE

    THIS, IT IS DOWN RIGHT OUTRAGEOUS THAT THE MCGOVERN-JONES AMENDMENT WAS…

    THIS, IT IS DOWN RIGHT OUTRAGEOUS THAT THE MCGOVERN-JONES AMENDMENT WAS RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE RULE COMMITTEES, DENYING THIS HOUSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE AND VOTE ON THEIR AMENDMENT. SECONDLY, WE REALLY DO NEED A CLEAR AND TWO-DAY, AT LEAST, THE BAIT, NOT 20 MINUTES ON THIS CRITICAL ISSUE OF AFGHANISTAN. SO FOR THE LIFE OF ME, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES IS NOT LONG ENOUGH AND I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IN FACT THE MCGOVERN-JONES AMENDMENT WAS NOT GIVEN THE FULL AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE FROM A VARIETY OF POLICY PERSPECTIVES. MY AMENDMENT TODAY WOULD PUT A RESPONSIBLE END TO COMBAT OPERATIONS IN AFTER GAP STAN BY LIMITING THE FUNDING TO THE SAFE AND ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL OF U.S. TROOPS AND MILITARY CONTRACTORS. I HAVE TO THANK THE CO-SPONSORS OF THIS BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, REPRESENTATIVES JONES AND CONYERS, PAUL, WOOLSEY, WELCH, NADLER AND HASTINGS, AND ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS TO RESPONSIBLY END THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. I HAVE OFFERED THIS AMENDMENT IN THE PAST AND IT HAS BEEN A BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT. IT'S CLEAR THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FAR AHEAD OF CONGRESS IN SUPPORTING AN END TO THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. MY AMENDMENT ALLOWS CONGRESS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND SQUARELY WITH THE WAR-WEARY AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH WANT TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. THE CALL HAS BEEN GROWING ACROSS THE LAND TO BRING THIS WAR TO AN END. IT'S TIME NOW FOR THE CONGRESS ANSWER THE CALL HERE TODAY. THE REALITY IS THAT THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION TO THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. OUR BRAVE TROOPS HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED OF THEM AND MORE. AS THE DAUGHTER OF A MILITARY VETERAN, I ALSO KNOW FIRSTHAND THE SACRIFICES AND COMMITMENT INVOLVED WITH DEFENDING OUR NATION. BUT THE TRUTH IS, THEY HAVE BEEN PUT IN AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION, THERE'S NO MILITARY SOLUTION, AND IT'S PASTIME TO END THE WAR AND TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME. OVER A DECADE NOW, OVER $500 BILLION SPENT IN DIRECT COSTS AND MIND YOU, NOT A PENNY OF IT HAS BEEN PAID FOR. INSTEAD, WE SHOULD BEEN INVESTING IN JOBS AND OUR ECONOMY HERE AT HOME AND A SMARTER NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY. IT IS TIME TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. WITH ALMOST 2,000 UNITED STATES TROOPS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN AND MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE MAIMED WITH INJURIES BOTH HIDDEN AND VISIBLE WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND STRATEGY IN AFGHANISTAN MUST END. IT'S CRITICAL TO OUR ECONOMY AND THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WE STOP POURING BILLIONS ON A COUNTERPRODUCTIVE MILITARY PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE WAR IS NO LONGER WORTH FIGHTING. NOT FOR ANOTHER YEAR, NOT FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS, AND SURELY NOT FOR ANOTHER 12 YEARS. TODAY, CONGRESS SHOULD STAND WITH SEVEN OUT OF 10 AMERICANS WHO OPPOSE THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. AFTER 11 LONG YEARS, IT IS TIME TO BRNG OUR TROOPS HOME. WE CAN DO THAT RESPONSIBLY BY VOTING YES ON THE LEE AMENDMENT TODAY. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:11:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLELADY RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:11:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:11:43 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    ESSENTIALLY THIS AMENDMENT SAYS GET OUT NOW. LEAVE AFGHANISTAN REGARDLESS…

    ESSENTIALLY THIS AMENDMENT SAYS GET OUT NOW. LEAVE AFGHANISTAN REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES. I APPRECIATE THE HONSY, THE FORTHRIGHT NATURE OF THIS AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA. IT IS BETTER TO SAY UP FRONT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO RATHER THAN TO PUT VARIOUS CONDITIONS ON IT OR TO TIE OUR TROOPS' HANDS IN SOME WAY OR TO NOT PUT ENOUGH TROOPS IN THE FIELD IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION WE ASKED THEM TO DO. THIS IS VERY CLEAR. IT SAYS LEAVE NOW. AND IT IS TEMPTING FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. I WANT OUR TROOPS TO LEAVE AS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL SECURITY. THE UNDERLYING BILL SAYS THE UNITED STATES MILITARY SHOULD NOT MAINTAIN AN INDEFINITE COMBAT PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN AND SHOULD TRANSITION TO A COUNTERTERRORISM AND ADVISE AND ASSIST MISSION AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE DATE CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. CONSISTENT WITH THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. WE BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE ACCOUNT OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS THERE. AND YOU CAN IN THE JUST ABANDON AFGHANISTAN AND IGNORE, STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND PRETEND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHY WE'RE THERE TO BEGIN WITH. WE'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE OF THEM, WE'RE THERE BECAUSE OF US. WE'RE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT AFGHANISTAN IS NO LONGER USED AS A SAFE HAVEN, AS A BASE FROM WHICH -- WHICH WILL BE USED TO LAUNCH ATTACKS AGAINST US. THAT'S THE CRUX OF THE MATTER. AS SOON AS THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY AND PREVENT A RETURN OF THE TALL PAN AN RETURN OF AL QAEDA, THEN WE CAN GO AND WE WILL HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR MISSION AND THEY'LL HAVE TO SORT THROUGH THEIR DOMESTIC ISSUES ON THEIR OWN. BUT IF WE LEAVE TOO EARLY AND AL QAEDA AND THE TALIBAN RETURN AND USE IT AS A BASE TO LAUNCH ATTACKS AGAINST US, THEN I'M AFRAID MORE AMERICANS WILL SUFFER AND WE WILL SEE -- WE COULD SEE REPEATS OF PAST TERRORIST ATTACKS. SO AS TEMPTING AS IT IS, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR ACTIONS, LEAVING TOO FAST WOULD BE BAD FOR OUR SECURITY.

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  • 04:13:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:14:03 PM

    MS. LEE

    LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WOOL SE…

    LIKE TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WOOL SE -- MS. WOOLSEY.

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  • 04:14:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 04:14:15 PM

    MS. WOOLSEY

    TODAY IN SUPPORT OF MY FRIEND, BARBARA LEE'S, AMENDMENT. LET'S LOOK AT THE…

    TODAY IN SUPPORT OF MY FRIEND, BARBARA LEE'S, AMENDMENT. LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS. 2/3 OF AMERICANS OPPOSE OUR MILITARY OCCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN. SO IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT TODAY IT WOULD PASS OVERWHELMINGLY WITH SUPPORT FROM BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. AFTER NEARLY 11 YEARS, MR. CHAIRMAN, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. CONGRESS MUST CATCH UP TO THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT AND EMBRACE A RESPONSIBLE END TO THIS WAR. INSTEAD OF DUMPING $10 BILLION A MONTH INTO AN UNWINNABLE WAR, LET'S REDIRECT OUR RESOURCES TOWARD A SMART SECURITY APPROACH. LET'S INVEST IN PEOPLE, LET'S INVEST IN DEVELOPMENT, LET'S INVEST IN HUMANITARIAN PROGRESS. LET'S BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. VOTE YES ON THE LEE AMENDMENT. VOTE YES FOR SMART SECURITY. VOTE YES FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I YELLED BACK.

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  • 04:15:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:15:21 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 04:15:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 04:15:28 PM

    MR. CONAWAY

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING THE TIME. I…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING THE TIME. I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THEAMENT. MY COLLEAGUE SAID IT VERY WELL EARLIER, THIS IS JUST SAYING GET OUT NOW. MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT USE THE WORD RESPONSIBLE OVER AND OVER. THERE IS NOTHING RESPONSIBLE ABOUT AN ABAN DONNING THE EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN TODAY WITHOUT PROPER CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. THE PRESIDENT HAS A PLAN IN PLACE, SOME OF US MAY HAVE HAD DIFFERING IDEAS WITH HIM BUT HE PUT A PLAN IN PLACE AND SAYS OUR COMBAT TROOPS WILL BE OUT OF THERE BY 2014 CONTINGENT WITH THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. THE AFGHAN PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THEM GET TO THE PLACE WITH THE AFTER BEGAN NATIONAL ARMY AND POLICE, THOSE EFFORTS ARE GOING ON ACROSS THE PROVINCES OF AFGHANISTAN AS WE SPEAK AND THEY'RE GETTING IN THE LEAD TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR SECURITY. BUT ABANDONING AFGHANISTAN TODAY WOULD PUT AT RISK THOUSANDS OF AFGHANIS WHO ARE DOWNING ON US TO GET THIS RIGHT AND PUTTING THEM IN A POSITION TO DEFEND THEMSELVES WHEN WE DO LEAVE IN 2014. GETTING OUT NOW, MR. SPEAKER, IS IRRESPONSIBLE RATHER THAN RESPONSIBLE. OF US LIKE TO GO -- NONE OF US LIKE TO GO TO THOSE FUNERALS. I GO TO FUNERALS OF THOSE KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ AND I STAND WITH THOSE FAMILIES ON THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIVES. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S GRINDING GRIEF THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BUT THERE'S A PRIDE ALSO ATTACHED TO THAT THAT THEIR LOVED ONE GAVE THEIR LIFE FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE, FOR SOMETHING GOOD. THE 27 MILLION EAVEYS COULD CREATE A GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO RULE THEMSELVES AND NOT HAVE THE THUGS OF THE TALIBAN DO WHAT THEY DID IN THE MID 1990'S, COME IN AND SLAUGHTER ALL THE THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE, ALL THE TEACHERS, ALL THE FOLKS WHO WOULD LEAD IN ORDER TO SUBJUGATE WHAT THOSE PEOPLE IN WAYS THAT ARE JUST HORRENDOUS TWHEEFMENT DO THAT AGAIN TO -- HORRENDOUS. THEY WOULD DO THAT AGAIN TO ANYONE WHO HELPED US OVER THE LAST YEARS. THE NATO MEETING IS THIS WEEKEND IN CHICAGO TO DETERMINE ONGOING CONDITIONS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR COMMITMENTS AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD UNDERMINE ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS GOING ON THERE. SO I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:17:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLELADY FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:17:43 PM

    MS. LEE

    YOU. I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR.…

    YOU. I'D LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. CONYERS.

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  • 04:17:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 04:17:50 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    THANK THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA AND APPRECIATE THAT ENDING AMERICA'S…

    THANK THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA AND APPRECIATE THAT ENDING AMERICA'S LONGEST WAR OVER 10 YEARS IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE NOTION BECAUSE THERE IS A SERIOUS MISUNDERSTANDING GOING ON ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. ON THE OTHER SIDE. WITHDRAWING UNITED STATES TROOPS DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE ABANDONING AFGHANISTAN. PLEASE, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE DIPLOMATIC AND POLITICAL SOLUTIONS THAT CAN'T BE WON AT GUN POINT. DON'T YOU GET IT? HOW MANY -- IF WE'RE LESKING -- LEAVING IN 2014 WE'RE JUST SAYING, LET'S SPEED IT UP, LET'S BEGIN A RATIONAL WITHDRAWAL AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP A COMMITMENT TO AFGHANISTAN. IT DOESN'T MEAN TROOPS, IT DOESN'T MEAN OUR MILITARY HAS TO DIE. AND I THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR YIELDING.

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  • 04:19:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:19:09 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TWO MINUTES AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TWO MINUTES AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, A GENTLEMAN WHO HAS LED TROOPS IN BATTLE, MR. WEST.

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  • 04:19:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 04:19:20 PM

    MR. WEST

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I WILL SAY THIS ONE THING. I'VE BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN FOR 2 1/2 YEARS. AND HAVING BEEN A GROUND COMBAT COMMANDER I SAY ONE THING. IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD RESTRICT THE AUTHORIZATION AND USE OF FUNDS FOR CONTINUATION OF COMBAT OPERATIONS IN AFGHANISTAN. JUST TODAY IN A PROVINCE WHERE I'VE BEEN TO, THE TALIBAN ATTACKED AN AFGHAN GOVERNMENT COMPOUND KILLING SEVEN PEOPLE. WHAT YOU ARE TELLING TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN COMBAT, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TO THE ENEMY IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THOSE MEN AND WOMEN HANGING. THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE THEM THE RESOURCES. NOW, I SEE WHERE THIS AMENDMENT SAYS IT DOES NOT PROHIBIT OR RESTRICT THE USE OF FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE U.S. TO CARRY OUT DIPLOMATIC, HUMANITARIAN, DEVELOPMENT OR GENERAL RECONSTRUCTION EFFORTS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN AFGHANISTAN IS WE GOT INVOLVED IN NATION BUILDING, WE GOT INVOLVED IN OCCUPATION-STYLE WARFARE AND TRULY NOT BEING INVOLVED IN COUNTERTERRORISM-STYLE OF WARFARE AND GOING AFTER THE ENEMY. THIS IS WHERE OUR PRIMARY FOCUS SHOULD BE AND WE HAVE GENERALS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'VE BEEN TO WAR COLLEGE. WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE PLACED TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN TO LEAD OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN COMBAPT IN THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD -- COMBAT IN? THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD IN 2014 THAT WE WILL BE DRAWING DOWN AND LEAVING AFGHANISTAN. WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD WE WANT TO REPEAT SOME OF THE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT I SAW MY OLDER BROTHER GO THROUGH IN VIETNAM WHEN WERY STRICTED FUNDED AND -- FUNDING? I'M TELLING YOU, I'VE BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN, I KNOW THIS ENEMY. AND I DON'T SEE ANYONE OVER THERE, MY DEAR CLEEPINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT I WOULD TRUST MORE THAN GENERAL ALLEN WHO SON THE GROUND, WHO KNOWS WHAT HE HAS TO DO. THE MESSAGE THAT YOU SEND TO OUR TROOPS IS THAT YOU'RE ABANDONING THEM. THE MESSAGE THAT YOU SEND TO THE TALIBAN, TO AL QAEDA, TO THE NETWORK, TO L.E.T., TO EVERY SINGLE RADICAL ISLAMIC GROUP IS THAT WE HAVE TURNED OUR BACKS ON OUR MILITARY AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO KILL THEM AND I WANT TO SAY ONE SIMPLE THING. TWO WEEKS AGO I WENT TO THE MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR P.F.C. MICHAEL J. METCALFE OF FLORIDA WHO WAS LAID TO REST TODAY IN ARLINGTON. I WILL NOT TURN MY BACKS ON THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE STILL MY FRIENDS, SOME OF THEM EVEN MY RELATIVES, AND I ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU AND YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:21:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 04:21:44 PM

    MS. LEE

    YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

  • 04:21:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 4 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA…

    FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 4 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS FOUR MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 04:21:52 PM

    MS. LEE

    LET ME JUST YIELD MYSELF 30 SECONDS AND JUST RESPOND TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    LET ME JUST YIELD MYSELF 30 SECONDS AND JUST RESPOND TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA AND SAY, THIS AMENDMENT, I THINK HE PROBABLY IS NOT READING THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE OFFERED. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS RESTRICT OUR FUNDING FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE SAFE AND THE ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. IT IS NOT A CUT AND RUN AMENDMENT. THIS IS A FORCE PROTECTION AMENDMENT. IT WOULD BRING OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OUT OF HARM'S WAY AND IT WOULD PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO MOVE FORWARD TO HELP STABILIZE THE REGION. I'D LIKE NOW TO YIELD A MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII, CONGRESSWOMAN HANABUSA.

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  • 04:22:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 04:22:38 PM

    MS. HANABUSA

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I RISE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE LEE AMENDMENT.…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I RISE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE LEE AMENDMENT. WHEN I WAS IN THE HAWAII STATE LEGISLATURE, WE WERE THE ONLY STATE THAT DID A HAWAII MEDAL OF HONOR AND THE FORTUNATE PART ABOUT IT IS WE GAVE THOSE MEDALS TO THE SPOUSES AND THE FAMILIES AND THE FRIENDS OF THOSE WHO HAD FALLEN IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. AS LONG AS THEY HAD SOME CONNECTION TO HAWAII, THEY'RE SERVING AT YOU ARE WITH OF OUR BASES OR BEING FROM THERE -- SERVING AT ONE OF OUR BASES OR BEING FROM THERE. I BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME FOR US WE MUST SAFELY -- US, WE MUST SAFELY REMOVE OUR TROOPS AND THE CIVILIAN PERSONNEL BECAUSE WE OWE IT TO THEM. IT IS NOT A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ABDICATING OR WE ARE TURNING OUR BACKS ON THEM. THEY HAVE DONE WHAT THEY WERE SENT THERE TO DO. 11 YEARS OF FIGHTING. SADDAM HUSSEIN -- OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD. THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES KNOW THAT. AND THEY ARE ASKING US TO REMOVE THE MEN AND WOMEN. DON'T CONTINUE THEM IN HARM'S WAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE SENT THERE TO DO. AND THAT IS WHY I STAND IN SUPPORT OF THE LEE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:23:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS…

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:23:55 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE,…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, AIR FORCE PILOT,

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  • 04:24:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 04:24:07 PM

    MR. KISSELL

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN -- MR.

  • 04:24:12 PM

    MR. KINZINGER

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THESE ARE LESSONS WE LEARNED THROUGHOUT HISTORY.…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THESE ARE LESSONS WE LEARNED THROUGHOUT HISTORY. I LEARNED IT IN OFFICER TRAINING AS A PILOT IN THE MILITARY AND I LEARNED IT IN MY EXPERIENCE OVERSEAS. THINK OF THE SACRIFICE THAT OUR TROOPS HAVE MADE IN AFGHANISTAN. NOW, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN TOO LONG. BUT THINK OF THE SACRIFICE THEY'VE MADE. AND NOW WE'RE GETTING READY VERY QUICKLY WITH THE PASSAGE OF AN AMENDMENT IF THIS PASSES TO SAY, WE'RE JUST GETTING OUT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE THE COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND WITH THE AUTHORITY TO SAY HOW WE DO IT OR WHAT WE DO. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO OUR TROOPS IF THIS PASSES AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO B.B.? B.B. IS A YOUNG WOMAN WHO IN AFGHANISTAN WHO AT THE AGE OF 12 WAS SOLD INTO SLAVERY BECAUSE SOMEONE COMMITTED A CRIME IN HER FAMILY AND THE TALIBAN MADE HER BE SOLD TO SLAVERY. HE HAD HER NOSE AND EARS CUT OFF. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO HER WHEN WE PICK UP AND SAY, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PICK UP AND LEAVE TODAY? THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS ILL-THOUGHT OUT AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:25:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:25:24 PM

    MS. LEE

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS THREE MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 04:25:31 PM

    MS. LEE

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD NOW ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS,…

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD NOW ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, CONGRESSWOMAN JACKSON LEE.

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  • 04:25:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 04:25:46 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I'D LIKE TO THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR A VERY THOUGHTFUL AMENDMENT AND I…

    I'D LIKE TO THANK THE GENTLELADY FOR A VERY THOUGHTFUL AMENDMENT AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THE AMENDMENT THAT BOTH MR. SMITH AND MR. MCGOVERN HAD. AND CLEARLY WHAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SPEAK THROUGH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES HERE ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. NONE OF US WANT TO PROMOTE THE KILLING OF WOMEN, THE CUTTING OFF OF EARS AND MUTELYIZATION OF ANYONE. I HAVE FOUNDED AND CHAIRED THE AFGHAN CAUCUS. I HAVE GONE TO AFGHANISTAN MEANS TIMES. LIVE DELIVERED BOOKS TO THEIR SCHOOLS. WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF OUR SOLDIERS, FIRST GOING THERE AFTER THE HORRIFIC INCIDENT OF 9/11, THEY AFTER 10 YEARS HAVE GIVEN THE FULLEST MEASURE AND WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE BRING THEM HOME SAFELY AND ORDERLY AND THAT WE BEGIN TO USE THE DIPLOMATIC RESOURCES, WE ENHANCE NATO, WE MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH OUR ALLIES AND WE HAVE THE AFGHAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCES STAND UP. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'VE GIVEN ENOUGH RIBBONS AND HERO AWARDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR SOLDIERS WOULD NOT STEP AWAY. THEY WANT TO BE THERE WITH THEIR COMRADES. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO MAKE DECISIONS TO SEND YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN INTO WAR TO MAKE A DECISION THAT THEIR JOB IS WELL DONE AND THAT AFGHANISTAN BEGINS TO IN ESSENCE DEVELOP THE DEMOCRAT PROCESSES AND HAVE THEIR NATIONAL SECURITY FORCES AND THEIR POLICE OFFICERS STAND UP. ENOUGH KILLING OF OUR SOLDIERS BY INTERNAL ACTS BY AFGHAN POLICE AND SOLDIERS. LET US BRING THEM HOME NOW IN AN ORLANDOERLY WAY. GOD WLESS OUR TROOPS AND -- GOD -- IN AN ORLANDOERLY WAY. GOD BLESS OUR TROOP -- IN AN ORDERLY WAY. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND GOD BLESS MERCK -- AMERICA.

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  • 04:27:25 PM

    MR. PEARCE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I FLEW COMBAT MISSIONS IN VIETNAM IN 1971, 1972…

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  • 04:28:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:28:42 PM

    MS. LEE

    I'D LIKE TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 04:28:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 04:28:50 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    THE TIME REMAINING?

  • 04:28:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLELADY…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING.

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  • 04:28:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE.

  • 04:29:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 04:29:11 PM

    MS. LEE

    JUST FIRST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE 20-MINUTE DEBATE BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A…

    JUST FIRST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE 20-MINUTE DEBATE BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF DAYS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FULL DEBATE ON WHY WE NEED TO, ONE, PROTECT OUR TROOPS AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR IS A SAFE AND ORDERLY -- PROVIDE FOR THEIR SAFE AND ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAR-WEARY. WE NEED TO REUNITE OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT HOME, WE SHOULD TRANSFER THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON WAR TO CREATE JOBS AT HOME, WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT OUR TROOPS ARE PROVIDED WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY DESERVE AND THEY NEED DURING THIS WITHDRAWAL, WE'RE ASKING FOR A SAFE AND ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL, WE'RE SAYING OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN HAVE FOUGHT, THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO, WE THINK THAT NOW AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THAT COMBAT MISSION, THE FIGHTING SHOULD END AND WE SHOULD BEGIN BY PROTECTING OUR TROOPS AND CONTRACTORS AND WE SHOULD BEGIN TO END THE LONGEST WAR IN AMERICAN HISTORY. IT'S TIME TO END THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN.

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  • 04:30:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS…

    THE GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:30:24 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF THE TIME.

  • 04:30:28 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    WHEN I WAS IN AFGHANISTAN A FEW YEARS AGO I VISITED CAMP LEGISLATOR --…

    WHEN I WAS IN AFGHANISTAN A FEW YEARS AGO I VISITED CAMP LEGISLATOR -- LEATHERNECK. A GENERAL WAS JUST SETTING UP BASE AND MEN WERE SETTING UP FOREIGN OPERATING BASES, TRYING TO TAKE BACK TERRITORY THAT THE TALIBAN COMMANDED. THE GENERAL TOLD ME THAT HIS TROOPS WERE BEING ASKED EVERY DAY BY THE LOCAL PEOPLE, WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING? HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO BE HERE? CAN WE TRUST YOU TO BE HERE TO PROTECT US? LAST YEAR WHEN I RETURNED, I WENT TO THE SAME AREA, WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO MARJA THIS TIME WHICH WE COULDN'T GO TO BEFORE BECAUSE THAT WAS A TALIBAN STRONGHOLD. LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO WALK DOWN THE STREET THERE. I SAW MARINES AND AFTER BEGAN SOLDIERS EMBRACING THAT THEY WERE HAPPEN HI -- HAPPY TO SEE OACH OTHER, MAYBE THEY'D BEEN APART FOR A WHILE. THE MARINES HAD PUT UP LIGHT STANDARDS DOWN THE STREET AND THE MERCHANTS WERE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR STORES OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WE OPENED A SCHOOL WHILE WE WERE THERE, NOT A COOL LIKE WE ENJOY BUT IT WAS A COOL BUILT OUT OF ADEE -- ADOBE AND TENTS, THEY HAD ABOUT 500 KIDS, ABOUT A THIRD OF THEM GIRLS, THEY WERE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL THEY HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO TO BEFORE. THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. I SITTED WITH THE LOCAL GOVEPBOR THERE I ASKED HIM WHAT -- GOVERNOR THERE. I ASKED HIM WHAT MOTIVATED HIM BECAUSE HIS LIFE WAS ON THE LINE? HE SAID, GOD WILLING, WE'LL PREVAIL. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PULLING THESE PEOPLE OUT BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO COMPLETE THEIR MISSION, I WAS ON A STREET THERE IN SIMI VALLEY, LAST WEEK, I TALKED TO A LADY WORKING IN THE -- IN A BOOTH FOR THE TROOPS, SHE SAID, MY GRANDSON CAME HOPE FROM -- HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN, AND SHE SAID TO HIM, WE SHOULD JUST GET OUT. AND HE SAID, GRAN NEE -- GRANNY, THAT'S WRONG, WE'RE DOING GREAT THINGS THERE. WE NEED TO STAY. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 04:32:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    MS. LEE

    FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY SEEKS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,…

    THE GENTLELADY SEEKS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEED OPTION THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:33:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF VIRGINIA.

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  • 04:33:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    REGISTRATION LOO -- RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR.…

    REGISTRATION LOO -- RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 04:33:51 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    I THANK THE CHAIR AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATION THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING…

    I THANK THE CHAIR AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATION THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBER AND THEIR RESPECTIVE STAFFS WHO OFFER US A MODEL FOR BIPARTISAN COLLABORATION ON MAJOR LEGISLATION. THIS AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE FUTURE DRAWDOWN IN AFGHANISTAN WHICH WILL REQUIRE NATO TO REV MOVE $30 BILLION OF EQUIPMENT FROM AFGHANISTAN BY THE END OF 2014. THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM VEHICLES TO EQUIPMENT. LOGISTICALLY, THIS IS QUITE A CHALLENGE. THE UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES RELIED ON TWO MAJOR ROUTES TO GET THE EQUIPMENT TO AFGHANISTAN, THE LAND ROUTE AND THE NORTHERN ROUTE THROUGH ASIA. FOR NEARLY SIX MONTHS, ACT PAKISTAN HAS CLOSED THE ROUTE IN RESPONSE TO AN ACCIDENTAL SHOOTING OF PAKISTANIS ON THE BORDER. WHILE TALKS HAVE BEEN POSITIVE, THE FINAL OUTCOME IS FAR FROM CERTAIN THIS SIMPLE AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE HEAD ON BY WITHHOLDING FUNDS TO THE COALITION SUPPORT FUND UNTIL THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CERTIFIES THAT PAKISTAN HAS OPENED THE GROUND LINES OF COMMUNICATION, IS ALLOWING THE TRANSIT OF NATO SUPPLIES THROUGH PAKISTAN INTO AFGHANISTAN, AND THREE IS SUPPORTING RETRIEVAL OF EQUIPMENT OUT OF AFGHANISTAN. THIS WILL BE NO EASY FEAT AND IT WILL REQUIRE THE HELP OF ALLIES NO MATTER HOW STRAINED THE TIES. SOME QUESTION WHY WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH PAKISTAN AT ALL. SECRETARY OF STATE CLINTON SAID IT BEST, PAKISTAN IS A NUCLEAR ARMED STATE SITTING IN THE CROSSROADS IN A REGION AND WE HAVE SEEN THE COSTS OF WITHDRAWING FROM THAT REGION BEFORE. THE PRESENCE OF SEVERAL COMPETING ACTORS IN SOUTH AND CENTRAL ASIA NECESSITATES ON GOING U.S. ENGAGEMENT IN THE REGION. A KEY REQUIREMENT FOR A SUCCESSFUL -- A DEEP AND NUANCED UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE PLAYERS IN THE REGION, THIS INCLUDES EACH ACTOR'S THE STIRED END GAME AND ITS WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOWARD A PEACEFUL PAKISTAN AND ANY DOUBLE TALK IMPEDES THAT PROGRESS. WE SHOULD OUTLINE OUR MISSION, IDENTIFY OUR ALLIES AND SPECIFY OUR EXPECTATIONS. THIS AMENDMENT DOES JUST THAT. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING ON ME WITH -- WITH ME ON THIS AND OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE BILL SPECIFICALLY. WE ARE WORKING TO STRENGTHEN AMERICA'S SMALL BUSINESSES AND SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY AND I SUPPORT THE COMMITTEE'S BIPARTISAN SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 96 I SUBMITTED ALONG WITH MR. LANKFORD OF OKLAHOMA TO COMBAT MUME TRAFFICKING BY FEDERAL SUBCONTRACTORS. I THINK IT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM. WITH THAT, I RESERVE.

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  • 04:36:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    IN OPPOSITION THOUGH I DON'T OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    ANY MEMBER CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS…

    ANY MEMBER CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 04:37:10 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    AMENDMENT EARLIER TO CUT OFF ALL FUNDS TO PAKISTAN. THIS IS A MORE…

    AMENDMENT EARLIER TO CUT OFF ALL FUNDS TO PAKISTAN. THIS IS A MORE MODERATE APPROACH. PAKISTAN IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THEY LIVE IN A TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD. WE KNOW THAT IN SOME WAYS THEY HELP US, IN SOME WAYS THEY DON'T HELP US. THIS AMENDMENT IS KIND OF A CARROT AND STICK APPROACH. WE SAY WHEN YOU DO THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY YOU'LL DO, WHEN YOU THOPE GROUND LIVENSE COMMUNICATION, WE'LL BE GIVING YOU SOME OF THE FUNDS. I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER APPROACH WE SHOULD TAKE AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP US IN MOVING FORWARD OUR EFFORT IN THAT AREA. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS AMENDMENT, I THINK IT MAKES THE BILL STRONGER. I THANK HIM FOR HIS WORK IN THIS REGARD. I ASK SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:38:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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    MR. CONNOLLY

    MAY I ASK HOW MUCH TIME IS REMAINING?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN HAS TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. CONNOLLY

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    OF THIS AMENDMENT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE PROBLEMS IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH…

    OF THIS AMENDMENT. WE CERTAINLY HAVE PROBLEMS IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PAKISTAN, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THEM TO IMPROVE THE RELATIONSHIP, OPENING UP SUPPLY LEANS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR TROOPS. IT IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT WE SHOULD ASK AND THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT IS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND IT'S THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE FOR DEALING WITH OUR DIFFICULT ALLY. AS MR. ROHRABACHER MENTIONED, THERE IS MUCH THAT PAKISTAN DOES THAT CAUSES US TROUBLE BUT THEY ARE A COUNTRY WE NEED TO WORK WITH IF WE'RE GOING TO PROPERLY CONTAIN THE AL QAEDA AND TERRORIST THREAT THAT COMES FROM THAT REYP OF THE WORLD. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT STRIKES THAT BALANCE JUST RIGHT AND I URGE THE -- URGE THIS BDY TO SUPPORT IT.

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  • 04:38:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM VIRGINIA.

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    MR. CONNOLLY

    I YIELD 30 SECONDS TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. SHEILA JACKSON LEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS HARD WORK AND LET ME HAVE AN OPEN LETTER TO…

    THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS HARD WORK AND LET ME HAVE AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR FRIENDS IN PAKISTAN, PAKISTANI AMERICANS, THAT YOUR FRIENDSSHIP IS APPRECIATED, THE HARD WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER IS APPRECIATED, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO BEGIN THE REOPENING OF THOSE BORDERS THAT ARE CRUCIAL TO THE SURVIVAL AND THE EFFORTS OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE PRESENTLY IN AFGHANISTAN AND ON THAT BORDER. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE NEW AMBASSADOR, WITH THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE FOREIGN MINISTER OF PAKISTAN, THEY UNDERSTAND AND HAVE MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT THEY WOULD BEGIN THE OPENING OF THOSE LINES, NOT ONLY OF COMMUNICATION BUT TRAVEL AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN SOON. AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE WORKING WITH THE PAKISTANMY PEOPLE IS CRUCIAL, DEVELOPING ALLIES IS CRUCIAL IN THAT VERY DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PAKISTANIS THEMSELVESES ARE SUBJECT TO TERRORIST ACTS. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.

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  • 04:40:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM VIRGINIA.

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    MR. CONNOLLY

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND THE WONDERFUL STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND THE WONDERFUL STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE BILL. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 04:40:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE AYES HAVE IT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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  • 04:40:24 PM

    MR. CONNOLLY

    I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A RECORDED VOTE ON THAT MATTER.

  • 04:40:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    >>

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 04:40:53 PM

    THE CLERK

    NURMENT 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MR. RUE NEE OF…

    NURMENT 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MR. RUE NEE OF FLORIDA.

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  • 04:41:08 PM

    MR. ROONEY

    MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I P MIGHT CONSUME.

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    MR. ROONEY

    AMENDMENT CODIFIES IN THE NDAA THAT ANY FOREIGN TERRORIST DETAINED BE…

    AMENDMENT CODIFIES IN THE NDAA THAT ANY FOREIGN TERRORIST DETAINED BE TRIED IN A MILITARY TRIBUNAL SET UP BY THIS CONGRESS RATHER THAN AN ARTICLE 3 COURT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS QUITE SIMPLE. ARTICLE 3 COURTS, WHICH ARE RESERVED FOR OUR CITIZENS, AFFORD CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, RIGHTS OF ATTORNEYS, RIGHTS TO REMAIN SILENT, RIGHT TO FACE YOUR ACCUSER, AND TO CONTRADICT THE EVIDENCE BROUGHT AGAINST YOU. SOMETIMES WHICH ARE BEING OFFERED BY THE GOVERNMENT BY PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH INFORMATION AND SOURCES THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED. MILITARY TRIBUNALS I THINK ARE THE MORE ADEQUATE VENUE FOR FOREIGN TERRORIST ENEMY COMBATANTS TO BE TRIED AND TO BE GIVEN DUE PROCESS FAIRLY WHICH WOULD ALSO PROTECT OUR SOURCES, WHICH WOULD ALSO PROTECT THE WAY THAT WE GATHER EVIDENCE BY MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND PANELS OF MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHICH I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY JAG CORPS, PEOPLE OF THE UTMOST INTEGRITY AND UTMOST FAIRNESS. SPECIFICALLY, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE MOVE FURTHER AWAY FROM 9/11, THE WAR ON TERROR CONTINUES AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE UNDERWEAR BOMBER, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH MAJOR HASAN IN THE FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE TIMES SQUARE BOMBING, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH JUST RECENTLY, AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, A SECOND ATTEMPT AT AN UNDERWEAR TYPE BOMBING ON AN AIRPLANE. SO FOR THESE REASONS AND FOR REASONS STATED PREVIOUSLY WITH REGARD TO DETAINEES AT GUANTANAMO BAY WHO ARE NOT U.S. CITIZENS WHO ARE FOREIGN TERRORISTS, DETAINEES THAT I BELIEVE SHOULD GET DUE PROCESS, THAT I BELIEVE HAVE THE DUE PROCESS VENUE OF THE MILITARY TRIBUNALS AND MILITARY COURT DOWN AT GUANTANAMO BAY TO GET THEIR DAY IN COURT. AND GET SO IN A FAIR WAY THAT IS HUMANE AND JUST AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:43:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    I RISE TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

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    >>

    90 SECONDS TO MY FRIEND FROM ARKANSAS, MR. GRIFFIN.

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    MR. GRIFFIN

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    INQUIRE HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. SMITH

    YOU. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY.

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    MR. ANDREWS

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA HAS RUN MINUTE REMAIN DIAGNOSE ONE MINUTE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA HAS RUN MINUTE REMAIN DIAGNOSE ONE MINUTE REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING.

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  • 04:50:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE.

  • 04:50:19 PM

    MR. SMITH

    WILL RESERVE. I ONLY HAVE ONE SPEAKER LEFT.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. ROONEY

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    MYSELF THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    QUICK POINTS. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE HERE AND THE REASON THAT I DRAFTED MY…

    QUICK POINTS. I THINK THE DIFFERENCE HERE AND THE REASON THAT I DRAFTED MY AMENDMENT TO SAY JUST IN THE U.S., A LEGITIMATE POINT, OVERSEAS WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CONTROL OVER THE INVESTIGATETORY PROCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE DOMESTICALLY. THERE'S A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEALING WITH SOMEONE HERE DOMESTICALLY. THAT'S WHY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING OTHER THAN TRY PEOPLE HERE IN THE U.S. UNDER ARTICLE 3 COURTS. WE HAVEN'T NEEDED MILITARY COMMISSIONS. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT POWER AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF POWER TO GIVE HIM THAT ISN'T NECESSARY. BUT OVERSEAS THEY ARE TAKING AWAY THE OPTIONS IN THIS AMENDMENT AND SAYING IT HAS TO BE MILITARY TRIBUNALS. AND THEY ARE ALSO SAYING THAT ARTICLE 3 COURTS ARE INADEQUATE TO DO THAT, WHEN IN FACT THEY'VE DONE IT REPEATEDLY. THE PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED THE BOMBING AGAINST THE WORLD TRADE TOWERS IN 1993 WERE CAPTURED OVERSEAS, BROUGHT BACK, TRIED HERE IN DOMESTIC COURTS. ARTICLE 3 COURTS WORK SOMETIMES IN THESE INSTANCES. THEIR AMENDMENT TAKES THOSE OPTIONS AWAY COMPLETELY. ALSO POINT OUT THAT GUANTANAMO BAY IS NOT AN ENORMOUS FACILITY. THEY ALREADY HAVE 40 PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE FOR MILITARY TRIBUNALS. MANY MORE WILL BACKLOG THAT. BUT I WANT TO COME BACK TO MY AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING TO COME UP LATER. DOMESTICALLY WE HAVE PROVE THAN ARTICLE 3 COURTS ARE MORE THAN ADEQUATE, YOFESEAS WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE NEED -- OVERSEAS WE'VE PROVE THAN WE NEED MULTIPLE OPTIONS. I URGE OPPOSITION TO IT.

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  • 04:53:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS OFFERED BY.-- ON THE…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS OFFERED BY.-- ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 04:53:47 PM

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    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-485 OFFERED BY MR. BARTLETT…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-485 OFFERED BY MR. BARTLETT OF MARYLAND.

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  • 04:53:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR. BARTLETT, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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  • 04:54:04 PM

    MR. BARTLETT

    I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED. BATTER ABOUT A --

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    MR. BARTLETT

    CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE AMENDMENT. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO MAKE TWO…

    CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE AMENDMENT. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO MAKE TWO STATEMENTS THAT I THINK ARE GENERALLY RECOGNIZED FACTS. ONE OF THOSE IS THAT ONLY 11.8% OF OUR WORK FORCE BELONGS TO A P.L.A. AND SECONDLY THAT P.L.A. CONTRACTS IN THE GOVERNMENT ON THE AVERAGE COST THE TAXPAYER 12% TO 18% MORE THAN A NON-P.L.A. CONTRACT. OUR AMENDMENT IS VERY SIMPLE. IT IS NOT PRESCRIPTIVE, IT IS SIMPLY PERMISSIVE. IT SAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DISCRIMINATE IN AWARDING CONTRACTS WHETHER YOU ARE P.L.A., NOT P.L.A., WHETHER IT'S A MIXTURE OF P.L.A. AND NON-P.L.A. COMPANIES, THAT THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED EQUALLY AND FAIRLY. IF IN FACT A P.L.A. CONTRACTOR IS MORE EFFICIENT AND BETTER QUALITY WORK AS THEY CONTEND, THEN THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AWARD THE LOWEST BIDDER, YOU CAN AWARD ON THE BASIS OF BEST VALUE. I THINK THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS A COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT THAT ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES IN FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM OUGHT TO SUPPORT. AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:55:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT RISE?

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  • 04:55:26 PM

    >>

    OPPOSITION, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO MY FRIEND, MR.…

    OPPOSITION, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO MY FRIEND, MR. BARTLETT'S, AMENDMENT WHICH DOES THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS PURPORTED.

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  • 04:55:37 PM

    MR. COURTNEY

    CURRENTLY THE STATUS QUO OF THE DEPARTMENT DEAF FENCE HAS TWO CHOICES.…

    CURRENTLY THE STATUS QUO OF THE DEPARTMENT DEAF FENCE HAS TWO CHOICES. THEY CAN USE THE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT OR PRI HIRING LABOR AGREEMENT OR NOW THEY CAN ELECT NOT TO ENTER INTO APPEAL -- INTO A P.L. A. THE EFFECT OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO HAVE A P.L.A. REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF HIRING, IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS. IN THE REASON WHY THOSE MODELS WORK RIGHT NOW AND HAVE WORKED FOR DECADES IS IT GIVES THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET CONDITIONS REGARDING SECURITY SCREENING, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, VETERAN HIRING PROGRAMS. THE HARD HATS PROGRAM WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS OF INTEGRATING VETERANS INTO THE BUILDING TRADES, IS DONE UNDER A P.L.A. ARRANGEMENT. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS LOCAL JOB MARKETS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO MILITARY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. BUT AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENT NOW PRESENTLY HAS THE OPTION NOT TO USE P.L.A.'S. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD IN FACT ROB THE DEPARTMENT OF THAT OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD RETAIN OR HOLD ON TO THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:56:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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  • 04:56:45 PM

    MR. BARTLETT

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND FROM ARIZONA, MR. FLAKE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. FLAKE

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE BARTLETT-FLAKE AMENDMENT. LET ME JUST CLEAR SOMETHING UP IF I CAN. WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THE PRESIDENT ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER WHERE HE ENCOURAGED FEDERAL AGENCIES TO WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE APPROPRIATE, TO EMPLOY P.L.A.'S. THAT MIGHT SEEM FUNDE FINE. THE PROBLEM IS SOME OF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES HAVE TAKEN THAT TO MEAN THAT THEY SHOULD REQUIRE P.L.A.'S AND SOME OF THEM HAVE ISSUED GUIDANCE TO THAT EFFECT. AND SO THEY HAVE TAKEN WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID AND TAKEN IT ONE STEP FURTHER. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS SIMPLY SAY THAT YOU CANNOT FAVOR P.L.A.'S, NOR CAN YOU PROHIBIT THEM. THAT THE FEDERAL AGENCIES WILL BE NEUTRAL IN THIS REGARD. SO TO SAY THAT IT WOULD PROHIBIT THE USE OF P.L.A.'S IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO GET -- KEEP THE PRESIDENT OR THE FEDERAL AGENCIES FROM PUTTING THEIR FINGER ON THE SCALE. IN FAVOR OF P.L.A.'S OR AGAINST THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES AND I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT IT . THIS AMENDMENT WAS OFFERED IN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, ON THE MILITARY CONSTRUCTION BILL, AND WAS PASSED BY VOICE VOTE. THERE IS A RECOGNITION THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS UNWITTINGLY OR NOT PUT HIS FINGER ON THE SCALE IN FAVOR OF P.L.A.'S OR UNION SHOPS AND THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR. THE PRESIDENT AND THE AGENCIES OUGHT TO BE NEUTRAL IN THIS REGARD. P.L.A.'S MIGHT MAKE SENSE, THEY MIGHT NOT. WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS ENSURE THAT THE TAXPAYER GETS THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:58:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    MR. COURTNEY

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS,

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. LYNCH

    GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE…

    GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE BARTLETT-FLAKE AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INDEED SEEK TO PROHIBIT AGENCIES FROM USING A P.L.A. AND IS NOT AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA HAS JUST STATED, LET ME CLEAR SOMETHING UP, LARGE-SCALE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, LOOK, I WAS AN IRON WORKER FOR 18 YEARS, I WAS AN IRON WORKER GENERAL FOREMAN, P.L.A.'S ARE A GREAT ADVANTAGE TO HAVE IN A COMPLEX CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THIS AMENDMENT AND THE P.L.A. PROVISION THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER APPLIES TO PROJECTS THAT ARE $25 MILLION AND OVER. SO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS BELOW $25 MILLION DON'T GET AFFECTED BY THE P.L.A. EXECUTIVE ORDER. WHAT THE P.L.A. DOES REQUIRE AS MR. COURTNEY HAS POINTED OUT, IT DOES REQUIRE COMPLIANCE WITH STATUTORY COMPLIANCE WITH WORKERS COMP LAW, STATUTORY COMPLIANCE WITH ANTI DISCRIMINATION LAW, WITH PROPER CLASSIFICATION OF WORKERS, WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY LAWS ON SOME VERY DANGEROUS JOB SITES. THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO REJECT THE BARTLETT-FLAKE AMENDMENT. ALLOW THE P.L.A.'S TO BE USED WHEN APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 04:59:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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    MR. BARTLETT

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MR. WALBERG FROM MICHIGAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. WALBERG

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MR. SPEAKER, I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MR. SPEAKER, I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT. AN AMENDMENT THAT I THINK SPEAKS TO RATIONALITY OF OUR CONTRACTING AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THINK OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN OUR DEFENSE WORLD. IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE P.L.A.'S THAT VIRTUALLY MAKE UNFAIR COMPETITION FOR 86% OF ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS BECAUSE 86% NATIONWIDE DON'T HAVE P.L.A. AGREEMENTS, ARE NONUNION AND YET HAVE SKILLED WORKERS DOING THE JOBS THAT ARE EXPECTED. FOR DEFENSE CONTRACTING TO HAVE A MANDATE THAT THERE MUST BE A P.L.A. AGREEMENT IN PLACE OFTENTIMES WILL PUT OUR DEFENSE INDUSTRY AT ACCEPTING A PRODUCT THAT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND POTENTIALLY OF LESSER QUALITY IN THE PROCESS. THIS IS NOT A MANDATE. IT SAYS CHOICE CAN BE MADE EITHER WAY. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE VERY CLEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, IT IS NEUTRAL. IT IS NOT DESCRIBED AS OTHERS THAT IT WOULD TAKE P.L.A.'S OUT OF THE MIX. I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS AND ASK THIS AMENDMENT BE APPLIED AND ULTIMATELY MAKE A STRONGER DEFENSE CAPABILITY FOR OUR COUNTRY. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:01:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    >>

    MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII, A MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES…

    MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII, A MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, MS. HANABUSA.

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  • 05:01:31 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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    MR. BARTON

    COWE HAVE? --

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 05:02:55 PM

    MR. BARTLETT

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. GINGREY.

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    MR. GINGREY

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    MR. COURTNEY

    CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MR. LATOURETTE FROM OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. LATOURETTE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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    MR. BARTLETT

    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A LONG LIST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTING THIS…

    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A LONG LIST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD.

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  • 05:05:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE.

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    MR. BARTLETT

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I AM A SCIENTIST BUT I AM…

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I AM A SCIENTIST BUT I AM HAVING SOME TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW AN AMENDMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT IT IS NONDISCRIMINATORY THAT IS GOING TO BE TOTALLYING A NOSTIC TO WHETHER AN -- TOTALLY AGNOSTIC SOMEHOW EXCLUDES P.L.A.'S FROM CONTENTION. THAT IS CERTAINLY THAT'S NOT WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES. IT'S A COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT. FEW AMERICANS WOULD LIKE TO EXCLUDE NEARLY 90% OF AMERICAN WORKERS FROM CONTENTION FOR FEDERAL CONTRACTS, I DON'T THINK. THIS IS A FAIR, COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT, AND I URGE ITS ACCEPTANCE BY BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:06:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    MR. COURTNEY

    TO CONCLUDE, THERE IS SOMEHOW A SMITH THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S EXECUTIVE…

    TO CONCLUDE, THERE IS SOMEHOW A SMITH THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S EXECUTIVE ORDER HAS SWEPT THROUGH ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES AND P.L.A.'S ARE NOW A MANDATED REQUIREMENT. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE EXECUTIVE ORDER READS. THEY HAVE GRANTED ONE P.L.A. SINCE PRESIDENT OBAMA'S EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS ISSUED IN JANUARY OF 2009. AS MR. LYNCH SAID, THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER EXEMPTS PROJECTS $25 MILLION OR LESS. I'D BE HAPPY TO INVITE MEMBERS FROM MY DISTRICT TO A MILITARY BASE WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE P.L.A. CONTRACT, ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ON OUR NAVY BASE. SO THE FACT IS THAT THE OPTION EXISTS TODAY. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THAT OPTION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WHICH, AGAIN, HAS OBVIOUSLY EXERCISED IT VERY JUDICIALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE ONE P.L.A. SINCE JANUARY OF 2009. AGAIN, I WOULD URGE MEMBERS TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT WHICH HANDCUFFS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO SET A PREHIRING AGREEMENT TO HELP VETERANS, LOCAL WORK FORCE IN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS FOR YOUNG AMERICANS THAT WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A BUILDING TRADE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:07:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 05:07:33 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK?

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    MR. CONYERS

    YES, I ASK THAT THE AMENDMENT BE REPORTED.

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    THE CLERK

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CONYERS OF…

    NUMBER 9 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CONYERS OF MICHIGAN.

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  • 05:07:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 485, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. CONYERS, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 485, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. CONYERS, AND A MEMBER OPPOSE,ED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.

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  • 05:08:05 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT WITH MR. KEITH ELLISON. THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLE…

    TO OFFER THIS AMENDMENT WITH MR. KEITH ELLISON. THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLE IN THAT IT MERELY TERMINATES THE MOST EXPENSIVE WEAPONS SYSTEM OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN ITS HISTORY. THAT IS TERMINATING THE F-35-B JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER. WELL, WHY? WELL, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY OTHER PLANES THAT HAVE CAPABILITIES THAT RIVAL THE F-35-B AND THEIR COSTS ARE FAR LESS TO OPERATE. OUR AMENDMENT WOULD SAVE $50 BILLION OVER THE LIFE OF THIS PROGRAM, AND SO THE TERMINATION OF THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY SO MANY GROUPS, BUT I JUST MENTION A FEW, THE PROJECT OF GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, TAXPAYERS RECONNAISSANCE, THE CATO INSTITUTE, THE CENTERS FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS, THE RESEARCH GROUP, THE NATIONAL TAXPAYERS UNION, OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE, COBURN AND THE BOWLES HMP SIMPSON -- BOWLES-SIMPSON COMMISSION. PLEASE JOIN US IN A VERY SIMPLE IDEA, AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:09:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 05:09:33 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I RISE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. MCKEON

    I OPPOSE THE CONYERS AMENDMENT. THE F-35-B IS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF…

    I OPPOSE THE CONYERS AMENDMENT. THE F-35-B IS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT AND HAS ENTERED LOW-RATE INITIAL PRODUCTION. THE F-35-B WILL OPERATE FROM LARGE DECK AMPHIBIOUS SHIPS AS WELL AS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO TAKE OFF FROM FORWARD OPERATING BASES TO SUPPORT GROUND BASES. THE COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE CORPS WROTE TO THE COMMITTEE YESTERDAY AND SAID THE IMPORTANCE OF THE F-35-B SHORT TAKEOFF VERTICAL LANDING FOR THE MARINE CORPS AND THE NATION CANNOT BE OVERSTATED. THE F-35-B HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS BY COMPLETING ALL OF THE PLANNED TEST POINTS IN 2011 AND ACCOMPLISHING 261 VERTICAL LANDINGS. IF PASSED, THIS AMENDMENT COULD HAVE MAJOR NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO OUR NATION'S FUTURE COMBAT POWER, INCREASE THE COST OF THE OVERALL F-35 PROGRAM AND NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE EIGHT INTERNATIONAL PROGRAM PARTNERS AND FOREIGN MILITARY SALES. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THE CONYERS AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:10:51 PM

    MR. CONYERS

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY CO-SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY CO-SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA,

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  • 05:10:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. ELLISON

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, I DON'T STAND UP HERE BEFORE YOU…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, I DON'T STAND UP HERE BEFORE YOU REPRESENTING MYSELF AS SOME GREAT EXPERT ON AIRPLANES BUT I AM A MEMBER OF THIS BODY WHO IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEFICIT AND ABOUT SPENDING AND WE MUST SAVE MONEY, PARTICULARLY WHERE WE NEED TO. NOW, WHEN THE SIMPSON-BOWLES COMMISSION SAYS THIS PARTICULAR AIRPLANE IS NOT NECESSARILY AND SHOULD BE CUT, AND RECOMMENDATION 47, CANCEL THE MARINE CORPS VERSION OF THE F-35, I HAVE TO STOP AND TAKE NOTICE. WHEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, MANY OF WHICH ARE FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE GROUPS, TAXPAYERS FOR COMMON SENSE, THE CATO INSTITUTE -- NO BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS THERE -- THE PROJECT FOR GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, THE NATIONAL TAXPAYERS UNION, THE NATIONAL -- THE PROJECT ON DEFENSE ALTERNATIVES AND THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS, ALL AGREE THIS IS A WASTEFUL PROGRAM WHICH WE CAN SAVE MONEY WITH. I THINK WE'VE GOT TO STOP AND WE GOT TO TAKE NOTICE. NOW, I NOTICE MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE WAS MAKING SOME VERY GOOD POINTS AND THEY SOUND VERY SIMILAR TO SOME POINTS I READ TODAY FROM SOMEONE FROM LOCKHEED MARTIN. LOCKHEED MARTIN IS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR WHO IS MAKING THE PROGRAM, AND THE TALKING POINTS THAT THEY SENT OUT ARE VERY -- HER ESSENTIALLY ARGUING SO THEY CAN ENSURE A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS OF THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECT WHICH THEY HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN. BUT THEY MAKE NO CLAIM OF COST. THEY DO NOT SAY THAT THIS IS AN EXOSH TENT EXPENSE THAT PEOPLE -- EXORBITANT EXPENSE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN EYE TOWARD BUDGET IS SAYING IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR F-35-A OR F-35-C TO BE CUT BUT WE ARE SAYING THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, WHERE THERE IS A DIVERSE AND BROAD RANGE OF PARTIES WHO SAY THIS IS NOT A NECESSARY PROGRAM, SHOULD BE CUT AND CAN BE REPLACED BY GOOD ALTERNATIVES. I THINK WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, AND I'M SURE MY FRIENDS WHO REPEAT CONSTANTLY THAT WE'RE BROKE, WE'RE BROKE, WE'RE BROKE, WOULD AGREE.

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  • 05:13:18 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I RESERVE. -- I YIELD ONE TIME TO MY FRIEND OF THE COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN OF…

    I RESERVE. -- I YIELD ONE TIME TO MY FRIEND OF THE COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN OF THE VETERANS' AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. MILLER, ONE MINUTE.

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  • 05:13:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. MILLER

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO START OFF BY INVITING MY…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO START OFF BY INVITING MY COLLEAGUES THAT OPPOSE THE F-35 OPINION B TO VISIT FLORIDA, HOME OF THE FIGHTER PLANE, WHERE THE F-35-B WAS THERE. IT IS EXCEEDING PROGRAM EXPECTATIONS. IT IS A TACTICAL STRIKE AIRCRAFT THAT WILL IN FACT ENABLE OUR MARINES TO DEFEAT AND DETER ADVANCED THREATS WELL INTO THE FUTURE. THE GROUPS THAT YOU DON'T HEAR OPPONENTS TALK ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT SUPPORTS IT, THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE SAYS WE NEED IT, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEF OF STAFFS SAY WE NEED IT, THE COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE CORPS SAYS WE NEED IT AND NO ONE IS SAYING THE F-18 OUT THERE IS NOT A HIGHLY CAPABLE FOURTH GENERATION AIRCRAFT, BUT IT HAS BEEN MEETING OUR NEEDS FOR FOUR DECADES NOW. THE F-35-B IS DESIGNED TO DEFEAT THE THREATS OF OUR ADVERSARIES THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING TODAY. IF WE ARE TO MAINTAIN OUR AIR SUPERIORITY AND DEFEAT 21ST CENTURY THREATS, WE NEED MORE THAN A 20TH CENTURY AIRCRAFT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:14:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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    MR. CONYERS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THAT THE INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THAT THE INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE AND MEMBERS OF BOTH DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN HOUSE AND SENATE THAT HAVE CALLED THE F-35-B PROGRAM A SCANDAL AND A TRAGEDY, THAT'S QUOTING THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM ARIZONA, SENATOR MCCAIN, UNDERSECRETARY FRANK KENDALL HAS REFERRED TO THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING AND PRODUCING THE F-35 AS ACQUISITION MALPRACTICE, QUOTE-UNQUOTE. . EVEN WORSE, THE SERIOUS PERFORMANCE ISSUES THAT HAVE CAUSED IN 2010, SECRETARY GATES TO STOP PRODUCTION AND PLACE THE PROGRAM ON TWO YEARS PROBATION. AND ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT'S FIGURES, THE F-35B HAVE COST OVERRUNS AND DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SCHEDULED DELAYS IN THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND IT ISN'T EVEN QUALIFIED TO PARTICIPATE IN CLOSE AIR SUPPORT MISSION FOR THE MARINE CORPS' NEEDS. IT'S FAR TOO VULNERABLE FOR THIS ROLE WHICH REQUIRES LOW, SLOW FLYING. THE MARINES WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SERVED TO UTILIZE THE ARMY'S A-10'S, WHICH HAVE A FAR SUPERIOR RANGE AND PAYLOAD CAPABILITIES. I RESERVE MY TIME.

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  • 05:16:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE AT THIS TIME TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE RANKING…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE AT THIS TIME TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE RANKING MEMBER ON THE COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH.

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  • 05:16:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    THE F-35 IS A TROUBLED PROGRAM AND MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE WOULD LIKE IT TO…

    THE F-35 IS A TROUBLED PROGRAM AND MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BUT IT HAS UNDERPERFORMED. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS AMENDMENT. IN REPLACING THE F-35B, THAT IS A VERTICAL TAKEOFF PLANE. THE MARINE CORPS IS AN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE AND THEY NEED TO INSERT THEMSELVES. THE F-18 THAT IS PROPOSED TO REPLACE IT IS NOT A VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR THE F-35B. IT IS ALL ABOUT STEALTH AND BEING ABLE TO GET IN ON TARGETS. THE F-18 CANNOT GET TO THE AREAS THAT THE F-35 CAN GET TO, TO DEAL WITH ADVERSARIES LIKE IRAN. IT IS A MUCH MORE CAPABLE PLANE, IF WE CUT THIS, WE WILL JEOPARDIZE THIS PROGRAM. IT WILL UNDERMINE OUR PER UNIT COSTS TO THE POINT WHERE SUSTAINING THE PROGRAM WILL BE DIFFICULT. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE HAVE TO RELY ON THIS PROGRAM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE 95% OF OUR FIGHTER ATTACK AIRCRAFT FLEET IN 10 YEARS. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK. THEREFORE, I OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:18:05 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AND…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AND CHAIRMAN OF THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND MARINE PILOT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA, MR. KLEIN.

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  • 05:18:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. KLINE

    TODAY TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND IMPRESS UPON MY COLLEAGUES…

    TODAY TO OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND IMPRESS UPON MY COLLEAGUES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SHORT TAKEOFF VERTICAL LANDING CAPABILITY OF THE T-35 AND CONTRIBUTION TO THE CONTINUED SUCCESS OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. SO MANY YEARS AGO AS A YOUNG MARINE AND YOUNG MARINE PILOT, I REMEMBER WATCHING A HAR YEAR HOVERING OFF THE GROUND. THAT WENT FROM BEING A NOVELTY, GROWING AND MATURING TO BECOMING AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE MARINE AIR-GROUND TEAM. THAT IS GETTING OLD AND NEEDS TO BE PLACED. AND I HAVE WATCHED THE MAGIC OF F-18. FANTASTIC. TERRIFIC AIRCRAFT. IT CAN'T TAKE OFF AND LAND VERTICALLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY. AND WE NEED THOSE CAPABILITIES AS THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. SMITH, TALKED ABOUT THE STEALTH CAPABILITY, ADVANCED CAPABILITY TO BECOME THAT INTEGRAL PART OF THE AIR-GROUND TEAM. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AND OPPOSE THE GENTLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:19:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 05:19:42 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    ONE MINUTE NOT THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. COURTNEY.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. COURTNEY

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING FOR A MINUTE. ALL THE POINTS ABOUT WHY…

    I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING FOR A MINUTE. ALL THE POINTS ABOUT WHY THIS PROGRAM WHICH WAS STRUGGLING A COUPLE YEARS AGO IS NOW REALLY SHOWN GREAT PROMISE IN TERMS OF THE TESTS AND CRITICISMS WE HAVE HEARD ON THE FLOOR ARE OUT OF DATE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE PROPONENTS. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WE MADE A DECISION TO CANCEL THE F-22 PROGRAM, THE FIFTH GENERATION PROGRAM OF THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE THE F-35 AND THERE ARE OTHER NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD WATCHING THIS DEBATE, AUSTRALIA, OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES WHO ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER PROGRAM AND IT IS IMPORTANT WE MAKE A STATEMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS WILL BE INVESTING IN THESE PLATFORMS AND WITH THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SEND A STRONG SIGNAL INTERNATIONALLY THAT THIS IS A PROGRAM AMERICA IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN. AND I OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND URGE A NO VOTE. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:20:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 10. PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS SEEK RECOGNITION? GULETGUTE I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE -- MR.

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  • 05:21:28 PM

    MR. GUTIERREZ

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    BY MR. QUIGLEY OF ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL 10…

    FROM ILLINOIS, MR. QUIGLEY AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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  • 05:21:45 PM

    MR. QUIGLEY

    I OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO CUT FUNDING FOR THE V-22 OSPREY AND PUT THE…

    I OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO CUT FUNDING FOR THE V-22 OSPREY AND PUT THE SAVINGS TOWARDS OUR DEFICIT REDUCTION. IT HAS A LONG AND TROUBLED PAST. ACCORDING TO THE 2009 G.A.O. OFFICE REPORT, THE OSPREY HAS NOT FLOWN SAFELY. THE G.A.O. FOUND THE OSPREY WAS 186% OVER BUDGET COSTING OVER $100 MILLION TO PRODUCE OR FIVE TIMES MORE THAN AND THE HELICOPTER IT WAS DESIGNED TO REPLACE. THE PENTAGON TESTING FOUND THAT THE READINESS OF THE V-22 WAS WELL BELOW THAT OF TRADITIONAL AIRCRAFT, NOTING ITS QUOTE, AVERAGE MISSION CAPABLE RATE WAS 53% FROM JUNE OF 2007 TO MAY OF 2010, WELL BELOW THE REQUIRED RATE OF 82%. SADLY, DUE TO THE SEVERE SHORTCOMINGS, THE V-22 HAS TAKEN THE LIVES OF 36 INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING 31 SERVICE MEMBERS. LAST MONTH, TWO MARINES LOST THEIR LIVES WHEN AN OSPREY CRASHED IN MOROCCO. A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. COSTS ARE BEING REDUCED AND SAFETY IS BEING IMPROVED. I UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE BENEFITS CAN PROVIDE TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY FOR RESCUE OPERATIONS, BUT THESE OPERATIONS CAN BE COMPLETED WITH LESS EXPENSIVE HELICOPTERS AND HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE. EMERGING FROM A RECESSION, WE HAVE A DEFICIT TOPPING $1 TRILLION FOR FOUR STRAIGHT YEARS AND WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES. AND AS WE LOOK TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT, WE HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE, INCLUDING DEFENSE. DEFENSE SPENDING COMPRISES CLOSE TO 20% OF OUR BUDGET AND YET THIS DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION COMPLETELY EXEMPTS ANY CUTS FROM DEFENSE. IN FACT, IT ACTUALLY INCREASES SPENDING BY OVER $4 BILLION OVER THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST. WE HAVE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE SPENDING AND ASK OURSELVES, IS THIS ESSENTIAL, GIVEN ITS CONTINUED COST OVERRUNS, POOR SAFETY RECORD AND THE FACT THAT IT CAN BE REPLACED WITH LESS EXPENSIVE HELICOPTERS. I THINK IT IS CLEAR THAT THE V-22 IS NOT ESSENTIAL. AT BEST, IT IS SOMEBODY OPTIMAL AND NOT ESSENTIAL. I'M NOT ALONE. PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH TRIED TO ZERO OUT FUNDING BUT CONGRESS WOULDN'T LET HIM. FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY DICK CHENEY TRIED TO ZERO OUT FUNDING FOR THE V-22 AND THE CONGRESS WOULDN'T LET HIM. AND NOW THE BIPARTISAN POLICY EXIGS AND THE SUSTAINABLE TASK FORCE HAVE ALL RECOMMENDED CUTTING THE V-22 AND CUTTING IT WITH LESS EXPENSIVE HELICOPTERS. BUT THE REALITY IS, ONE OF THE REASONS WE BLOCKED CUTS TO THE V-22 IS 22,000 COMPANIES MAKE SUPPLY PARTS FOR THE OSPREY FROM 40 STATES. I GET IT. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS BECOME A JOBS PROGRAM. IF ALL WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS JOB CREATION WE WOULD BE BETTER BUILDING BRIDGES AND TRANSIT PROGRAMS, BECAUSE IN THE END WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE BIG PICTURE, CHOOSING THE FUND THAT IS OVERBUDGET, DANGEROUS NONESSENTIAL PLANE MEANS CUTS IN EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH CARE. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN SETTING PRIORITIES AND CUTTING PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T ESSENTIAL IN ORDER TO PROTECT ONES THAT ARE. THIS DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL INCLUDES A LONG LIST OF NONESSENTIAL PROGRAMS ALL OF WHICH SHOULD BE CUT, BUT A VOTE FOR MY AMENDMENT TO CUT THE OVERBUDGET UNDERPERFORMING V-22 OSPREY IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I RESERVE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 05:25:53 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, FROM MARYLAND, MR.…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, FROM MARYLAND, MR. BARTLETT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. BART BART MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE…

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. BART BART MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE DON'T BUY THESE AIRCRAFT, DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T BE BUYING OTHER AIRCRAFT BECAUSE THERE ARE MISSIONS THAT MUST BE ACCOMPLISHED. THIS AIRPLANE WILL REPLACE THE CH-46E AND HAS TWICE THE RANGE AND CAN CARRY TWICE AS MANY PERSONNEL. THE GENTLEMAN'S GOAL OF REDUCING SPENDING, HIS AMENDMENT MIGHT RESULT IN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FOR MANY MISSIONS, THIS IS FAR IN AWAY THE MOST EFFICIENT AIRCRAFT. WE NEED TO REJECT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IF WE PASS, IT COULD WELL RESULT IN INCREASED COSTS FOR OUR MILITARY AND LESS EFFICIENCY ON MANY MISSIONS. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:26:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I CONTINUE TO RESERVE.

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    MR. QUIGLEY

    TO RESERVE.

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    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN, RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE,…

    I YIELD AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN, RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. SMITH OF WASHINGTON, ONE MINUTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    A TROUBLED PROGRAM BEFORE IT WAS FINALLY DEVELOPED. AS THE GENTLEMAN…

    A TROUBLED PROGRAM BEFORE IT WAS FINALLY DEVELOPED. AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED IN OFFERING THE AMENDMENT, IT HAS GOTTEN OVER THE DIFFICULTIES AND HAS BEEN DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I WAS IN AFGHANISTAN AND I RODE ON A V-22 AND IT CAN OBVIOUSLY PERFORM IN DESERT ENVIRONMENT. AND IT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE MARINE CORPS. THE VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING OF THE V-22 IS CRITICAL WHAT THEY DO. MR. BARTLETT POINTED OUT, LONGER RANGE, AND PROPERLY DEPLOYED AND PROPERLY USED CAN MAKE IT CHEAPER THAN BUYING MORE HELICOPTERS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT PROGRAM. IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE MARINE CORPORATION AND I URGE OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 05:27:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 05:28:05 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MR. THORNBERRY.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I HAVE BEFORE ME AN ARTICLE FROM A.O.L. DEFENSE FROM JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO…

    I HAVE BEFORE ME AN ARTICLE FROM A.O.L. DEFENSE FROM JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY RICHARD WHITTLE AND AS THE EDITOR SAYS, THIS IS AS CLOSE TO GROUND TRUTH AS ONE CAN GET. WHAT HE SAYS IS THE MARINES AND THE OPERATIONS SPECIAL FORCES COMMAND HAVE BEEN FLYING IT FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEY LOVE IT. HE GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS IN THE EARLY YEARS, BUT THE CRITICS WENT TO SLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORY, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE NOT RECOGNIZED THE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. SINCE OCTOBER 1, 2001, THE MILITARY HAS LOST 405 HELICOPTERS, 99% OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN V-22'S AND YET THIS AMENDMENT COMES ONLY AGAINST THE V-22 WHEN IT TURNS THE REDESIGN OSPREY RECORD IS THE SAFEST ROTOR CRAFT THE MARCH EVENS FLY. WHEN IT COMES TO COSTS, SINCE 2008, THEY ARE UNDERBUDGET AND ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS OVER $200 MILLION VERSUS WHAT WAS BUDGETED. THIS PLANE IS WORKING WELL. THIS AMENDMENT IS BEHIND THE TIMES.

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  • 05:29:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. MEEHAN.

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  • 05:29:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. MEEHAN

    RISE STRONGLY TO OPPOSE THE QUIGLEY AMENDMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.…

    RISE STRONGLY TO OPPOSE THE QUIGLEY AMENDMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. I'M GRATFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE V-22 ON BEHALF OF THE MARINES WHO ARE USING IT IN THE THEATER OF BATTLE WHERE IT HAS PROVEN ITSELF. IF THIS ARGUMENT WAS TAKEN PLACE IN 2009, THERE MIGHT BE A CASE TO BE MADE, BUT IT'S BEING MADE IN 2012 WHERE I HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF THE COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE CORPS. THE OSPREY HAS GIVEN THE UNITED STATES UNPRECEDENTED AGUILT AND UNMATCHED BY ANY ON THE OTHER TACTICAL AIRCRAFT. IT IS THE CORNERSTONE OF THE MARINE GROUND TASK FORCE. WITH REGARD TO COST SAVINGS, IT HAS PROCURED UNDER A MULTI-YEAR PROCUREMENT CONTRACT AND WILL SAVE A PROPOSED $820 MILLION, REQUIRING CAPABILITY. AND IF WE TRIED TO REPLACE IT IT WOULD BE 74% MORE COSTS ASSOCIATED. THE LIABILITY, COSTS DEPEND BUILT. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE RETENTION OF THE V-22.

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  • 05:31:03 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ILLINOIS HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA…

    FROM ILLINOIS HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAINING AND THE RIGHT TO CLOSE. .

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  • 05:31:18 PM

    MR. QUIGLEY

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT. I YIELD THAT MINUTE TO MY FRIEND…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT. I YIELD THAT MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. BRADY.

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  • 05:31:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. BRADY

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING ME TIME. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THE…

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING ME TIME. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. THE V-IT 22 OSPREY IS USED BY THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ELIMINATE THE ONLY COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO REPLACE THE FLEET OF AGING AIRCRAFT IN OUR INVENTORY. CANCELING V-22 DOES NOT REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF CH-46 AND HH -56 AIRPLANES. IT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYER. I QUOTE THE SPECIAL COMMANDERS, LIEUTENANT GENERAL DONALD WORCESTER. THIS AIRCRAFT IS THE SINGLE MOST EFFICIENT OPERATION SINCE THE INDUCTION OF THE HELICOPTER. NEARLY EVERY MISSION WE HAVE FACED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS WOULD NOT HAVE DONE BETTER WITHOUT THE V-22. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO WE ARE TO NOT LISTEN TO THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN AND THE COMMANDER AND NOT GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED AND REQUEST TO KEEP THEM SAFE AND GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOB? I URGE THE SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET REQUEST AND VOTE NO ON THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:33:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS.…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE COMMITTEE WILL RISE INFORMALLY.

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  • 05:33:27 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL RECEIVE A MESSAGE. THE…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CHAIR WILL RECEIVE A MESSAGE. THE MESSENGER: MADAM SPEAKER, A MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. THE SECRETARY: MADAM SPEAKER.

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  • 05:33:37 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    MADAM SECRETARY. THE SECRETARY: I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED BY THE SENATE TO…

    MADAM SECRETARY. THE SECRETARY: I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED BY THE SENATE TO INFORM THE HOUSE THAT THE SENATE HAS PASSED WITHOUT AMENDMENT H.R. 4849, CITED AS THE IS HE CORIA ACT IN WHICH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE HOUSE IS REQUESTED. -- SEQOYA ACT IN WHICH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE HOUSE IS REQUESTED.

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  • 05:34:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE COMMITTEE WILL RESUME ITS SITTING.

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    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    MR. MARKEY

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, AND…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 05:34:39 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. HERE'S…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. HERE'S WHAT MY AMENDMENT SAYS. WHY ARE WE BUILDING A NEW NUCLEAR BOMBER? IT'S 2012. THE B-56'S WILL LAST UNTIL 2040? THE B-2'S WE HAVE WILL LAST UNTIL 2058. THAT'S WHEN THEY BEGIN TO RETIRE. OF ALL THE THINGS AMERICA DOESN'T NEED RIGHT NOW IS A BRAND NEW NUCLEAR BOMBER. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING MEDICARE, MEDICAID OUT HERE ON THE FLOOR. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO INVEST IN RESEARCH TO FIND THE CURE FOR ALZHEIMER'S BUT WE NEED A NEW NUCLEAR BOMBER FOR $18 BILLION? IT MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S INSANE. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY MORE TARGETS TO HIT THEM WITH. EVERY SINGLE NUCLEAR SUBMARINE WE HAVE HAS 96 INDEPENDENTLY TARGETABLE NUCLEAR WARHEADS ONBOARD. THAT'S 96 CITIES IN THE SOVIET UNION DESTROYED, 96 CITIES IN CHINA DESTROYED BY ONE SUBMARINE. AND WE ALREADY HAVE 93 B-52'S. WE HAVE 20 B-2'S. WE HAVE ICBM'S READY TO LAUNCH AND THEY WANT TO BUILD A NEW BOMBER. A NUCLEAR BOMBER. BY THE TIME THE NEW NUCLEAR BOMB ARRIVES THERE WILL BE NO PLACE TO HIT. ALL THE OLD BOMBERS, ALL THE NUCLEAR SUBMARINES WILL HAVE HIT ALL THE TARGETS. THE BOOM WE SHOULD BE LISTENING TO IS THE BABY BOOM. WE NEED MONEY FOR MEDICARE. WE NEED MONEY FOR MEDICAID. WE NEED MONEY FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. WE NEED MONEY TO INVEST IN FINDING THE CURE FOR ALZHEIMER'S AND PARKINSON'S. THAT'S THE BOOM THAT'S GOING TO HIT AMERICAN FAMILIES. THAT'S THE FEAR PEOPLE HAVE. THE FEAR THAT PEOPLE HAVE IS NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN A NUCLEAR WAR. THE FEAR THAT PEOPLE IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A TERRORFYING CALL THAT COMES INTO THEIR FAMILY THAT TELLS THEM THAT THEY NOW HAVE ANOTHER CASE OF ALZHEIMER'S IN THEIR FAMILY. THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN CURED. EACH ONE OF THESE BOMBERS COULD DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE BUDGET TO FIND THE CURE OF ALZHEIMER'S. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. THAT'S THE REAL TERRORIST THAT PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF COMING INTO THEIR LIVES. AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:36:55 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MCKEON

    I JUST MIGHT NOTE THAT THE B-52'S THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT THEIR…

    I JUST MIGHT NOTE THAT THE B-52'S THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN ARE FLYING AROUND THAT THEIR GRANDPARENTS FLEW, 20. I INQUIRED HOW MANY MAY GO ON A MISSION. MAYBE EIGHT. I THINK ALL OF THE TALK OF NUCLEAR, THEY DON'T -- THE NEXT BOMBER IS THE NEXT GENERATION BOMBER THAT WILL DELIVER ALL KINDS OF WEAPONS, NOT JUST NUCLEAR. I YIELD AT THIS TIME TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM LOUISIANA, MR. FLEMING.

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  • 05:37:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM LOUISIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. FLEMING

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. DELAYING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW BOMBER…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. DELAYING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW BOMBER FOR 10 YEARS WOULD PUT THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE BOMBER FLEET OVER 50 YEARS OLD BY THE TIME A NEW BOMBER WAS FIELDED. OUR OLDEST OF WHICH, THE B-52, WOULD BE NEARLY 75 YEARS OLD. IT WOULD CREATE UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF RISK REGARDING POWER PROJECTION REQUIREMENTS AND WOULD AFFECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. THE AIR FORCE HAS ONLY 19 B-2 STEALTH BOMBERS IN THE INVENTORY. THEY ARE 1980'S TECHNOLOGY. THEIR MAINTENANCE INTENSIVE AND VERY EXPENSIVE TO OWN AND OPERATE. THE AIRCRAFT AVAILABILITY RATE OF THE B-2 BOMBER FLEET TODAY BEING READY AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE FOR A MISSION IS CURRENTLY LESS THAN 40%. A MAIN STAY OF THE U.S. GLOBAL MILITARY POWER IS THE ABILITY TO CONDUCT LONG-RANGE CONVENTIONAL OR NUCLEAR STRIKE MISSIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND AGAINST ANY TYPE OF THREAT. THEREFORE, IT IS AN SBARE TIF TO MAINTAIN A -- IMPERATIVE TO MAINTAIN A CREDIBLE BOMBER FLEET. WE PLAN TO COST-EFFECTIVELY DEVELOP OFF-THE-SHELF TECHNOLOGY STUFF THAT EXISTS TODAY INSTEAD OF INVENTING NEW TECHNOLOGIES WHICH IN THE PAST HAVE LED TO COST OVERRUNS. I WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN, DON'T JUST TAKE MY OPINION. IT'S IN THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET SO THE ADMINISTRATION OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTS IT. THE AIR FORCE SAYS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES. WE ARE IN A DAY WHERE CONGRESS WANTS THINGS FOR THE PENTAGON THAT THE PENTAGON DOESN'T WANT. IN THIS CASE THE PENTAGON AND AIR FORCE WANTS IT. LET ME QUOTE WHAT THE AIR FORCE SAID. DELAYING LONG-RANGE STRIKE BOMBER PROGRAM FOR 10 YEARS WOULD CREATE UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF RISK IN OUR ABILITY TO DIRECT SUPPORT, FUTURE PILOT PROJECTION REQUIREMENTS, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING NATIONAL SECURITY. THE LONG-RANGE BOMBER WILL POSSESS UNIQUE CAPABILITIES, INCLUDING LONG-RANGE SIGNIFICANT PAYLOAD CAPACITY, FLEXIBILITY AND SURVIVELT AND ANTI-ACCESS ENVIRONMENTS. IT WILL REPLACE EXISTING BOMBER AIRCRAFT, SOME OF WHICH WILL BE OVER SIX DECADES OLD WHEN THE LONG-RANGE STRIKE BOMBER REACHES INITIAL OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY. AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:40:04 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS THREE MINUTES REMAINING. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS THREE MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 05:40:10 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    THANK YOU. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. MARKEY

    THANK YOU. AGAIN, THE EXPERTS ALL SAY THAT IF WE DELAY THIS JUST 10 YEARS,…

    THANK YOU. AGAIN, THE EXPERTS ALL SAY THAT IF WE DELAY THIS JUST 10 YEARS, WHICH IS ALL I'M ASKING FOR, 10-YEAR DELAY SINCE THE B-2'S AND THE B-52'S AREN'T RETIRING UNTIL -- BEGINNING TO RETIRE FROM BETWEEN 2040 AND 2058, ALL THAT MR. WELCH AND MR. CONYERS AND I ARE SAYING, WE DELAY IT 10 YEARS, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO BUILD THEM IF THERE'S A NEED. BUT TO BEGIN TO BUILD NEW THINGS RIGHT NOW IN THIS ERA OF TREMENDOUS BUDGET DEFICITS, WHEN WE SHOULD JUST BE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO REDUCE OUR DEFICITS, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THIS BUDGET, IT'S JUST WASTEFUL. IT'S WASTEFUL. AND I JUST WANT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. AND IF WE'RE WASTING MONEY ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THEN WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DEFICIT REDUCTION. SO, AGAIN, EXPERIENCE SHOWS US THAT IT ONLY TAKES 16 YEARS, NOT 30, TO BRING A NEW BOMBER FROM THE DRAWING BOARD TO THE RUNWAY. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF FAMILIES OUT THERE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET BY WITH, YOU KNOW, A CAR THAT'S JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND TRYING TO KEEP IT GOING. THE AIR FORCE HAS SPENT OVER $6 BILLION REFURBISHING ALL THESE PLANES. THEY PLAN ON SPENDING BILLIONS MORE ON REFURBISHING THEM. THERE IS NO REASON WHY THEY CAN'T GO OUT TO 2060. THIS IS NOT THE YEAR TO BE SPENDING THIS MONEY. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:41:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD 30 SECOND TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLELADY FROM GUAM,…

    I YIELD 30 SECOND TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLELADY FROM GUAM, MS. BORDALLO.

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  • 05:41:50 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM GUAM IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. BORDALLO

    I OPPOSE AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. IT WOULD DELAY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXTGEN…

    I OPPOSE AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. IT WOULD DELAY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXTGEN BOMBER. IT IS REPLACING A NEW AGING FLEET. THE NEW BOMBER IS SO WE DON'T SPEND OUR ACCOUNTS. IT DOES A LOT MORE THAN JUST CARRY NUKES. IT DETERS AGGRESSORS AND EVEN PROVIDES MARITIME SURVEILLANCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE ASIA PACIFIC AREA. CONGRESS OPPOSED A SIMILAR AMENDMENT LAST YEAR AND AS CO-CHAIR OF THE LONG-RANGE STRIKE CAUCUS, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AGAIN THIS YEAR. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:42:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS 1…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 05:42:39 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    I YIELD MYSELF AS MUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. MARKEY

    JUST LOOK AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN ORDINARY FAMILY. WE ALREADY…

    JUST LOOK AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN ORDINARY FAMILY. WE ALREADY GOT THREE CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY. EVERYONE SAYS TO THEM, YOU CAN GO ANOTHER 100,000 ON THOSE THREE CARS. AND YET THE DECISION IS MADE BY SOME OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO BUY A BRAND NEW TOP OF THE LINE CAR RIGHT NOW EVEN THOUGH THE WHOLE FAMILY IS IN DEBT. EMP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD THINK THAT'S CRAZY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY. THE MAJORITY IS LET'S BUILD A BRAND NEW BOMBER, GOLD PLATED BOMBER THAT'S BEEN ON THE WISH LIST FOR THE AIR FORCE FOR A GENERATION EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE PLENTY OF BOMBERS, NUCLEAR BOMBERS IN AN ERA WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY NUCLEAR SITES THAT WE COULD BE BOMBING AROUND THE WORLD, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO WASTE THE MONEY. WE SHOULD BE BALANCING THE BUMENT. WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR -- BALANCING THE BUDGET. WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS. WE NEED TO SAVE THE MONEY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF BOMBERS THAT CAN LAST OUT TO 2060. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:43:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK TO CONTROL THE TIME FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK TO CONTROL THE TIME FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS?

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO DO SO.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.

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    MRS. HARTZLER

    A MEMBER OF THEIR PARTY IS TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT. AS YOU KNOW,…

    A MEMBER OF THEIR PARTY IS TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT. AS YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, WE HAD OVER 50% OF THE CUTS SO FAR COME FROM OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE AND THERE'S ONLY A FEW THINGS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING HERE IN CONGRESS AND ONE IS TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE. I HAVE THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING THE B-2 BOMBER AIR FORCE BASE AND I COULDN'T BE PROUDER OF THE WORK THEY ARE DOING. WE HAVE 19 AIRCRAFT, AND IF WE APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT IT WOULD BE OVER 50 YEARS OLD BY THE TIME THAT WE WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THE FUTURE, AND WE'D HAVE B-2'S AT 75 YEARS OLD AND I WOULD USE HIS ANALOGY AND SAY A FAMILIARRY WOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL A CAR IS 50 YEARS OLD, BROKEN DOWN IN THE GARAGE AND WON'T START BEFORE THEY GO CONSIDER ADVANCING AND GETTING A NEW CAR. WE NEED TO BE PRO ACTIVE. WE NEED TO -- PROACTIVE. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR DEFENSE INDUSTRY REMAINS STRONG. WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE. WE NEED TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR LONG-RANGE STRIKE FIGHTERS. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 05:45:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAS 30 SECONDS REMAINING.

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    MR. MARKEY

    AND HOW MUCH DOES THE OTHER SIDE HAVE?

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    MR. MARKEY

    AND WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE?

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS.

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    MR. MARKEY

    FINAL SPEAKER? I YIELD MYSELF THE REMINDER OF THE TIME.

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    MR. MARKEY

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    30 SECONDS TO THE GENTLELADY FROM SOUTH DAKOTA.

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    MS. NOEM

    I WAS COMMEMORATING THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE WHICH…

    I WAS COMMEMORATING THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF ELLSWORTH AIR FORCE BASE WHICH IS IN MY GREAT STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA. OUR BOMBER FLEET, THE AVERAGE AGE IS 40 YEARS OLD. OUR BOMBERS ARE LEARNING NEW TRICKS. THEY HAVE BEEN UPDATED AS MUCH AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN BUT THEY EVENTUALLY STILL GET OLDER. I WILL TELL YOU THE B-1 BOMBER HAS PERFORMED GREAT OVER THE LAST DECADES AND SO HAVE THE B-2 AND B-5 IT 2 BUT WE MUST CONTINUE TO UPGRADE AND MAINTAIN OUR BOMBER FLEET AND I WILL TELL YOU PROHIBITING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW GENERATION BOMBER FOR 10 YEARS IS SHORTSIGHTED. IT PUTS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AT RISK. I AM GOING TO URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. .

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  • 05:47:01 PM

    MR. THORNBERRY

    THE REMAINING TIME TO MR. DICKS.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON HAS 30 SECONDS REMAINING.

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    MR. DICKS

    STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE MARKEY AMENDMENT. I KNOW MY FRIEND HAS TRIED TO…

    STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE MARKEY AMENDMENT. I KNOW MY FRIEND HAS TRIED TO BE HUMOROUS, BUT THIS IS A SERIOUS SUBJECT. I WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS ON THE WORK TO DO THE B-2 BOMBER AND TOOK US BETWEEN 15 AND 20 YEARS. THE REASON WE'RE STARTING, WE HAVE TO PULL THIS TECHNOLOGY TOGETHER AND TRY TO DO THIS FOR LESS MONEY. AND WE NEED A LONG-RANGE, MODERN, PENETRATING BOMBER WITH CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS. THE NUCLEAR WEAPON ISN'T A PRIORITY TO ME, IT'S THE SMART CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS THAT GIVE US AN ENORMOUS CAPABILITY. LET'S VOTE NO ON THE ILL-CONCEIVED MARKEY AMENDMENT. IF HE WANTS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, LOOK AT LAND-BASED

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    THE CHAIR

    OCCURS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THOSE…

    OCCURS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 05:48:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 1212 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO SEEK RECOGNITION.

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  • 05:48:29 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 OFFERED BY MR. POLIS OF COLORADO.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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  • 05:48:51 PM

    MR. POLIS

    SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. THIS IS REDUCING FUNDING BY 404 MILLION. THIS…

    SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. THIS IS REDUCING FUNDING BY 404 MILLION. THIS MISSILE DEFENSE PROGRAM WAS ZIPED TO INTERCEPT INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES BEFORE THEY REACH THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE. WHILE THIS FAILED MISSILE DEFENSE PROGRAM RARELY HITS ANYTHING, IT CONTINUES TO COST TAXPAYERS BILL CRONS OF DOLLARS. THE MISSILE DEFENSE PROGRAM THAT CAN'T HIT ITS TARGETS IS A GOOD PLACE TO ACHIEVE TAXPAYER SAVINGS. THIS HAS DOCUMENTED FAILURE AFTER FAILURE. CONGRESS SHOULD JUSTIFY EACH PENNY THAT WE SPEND OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND THERE ISN'T JUSTIFICATION TO SPEND MONEY ON A WEAPONS PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T WORK. THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED MORE THAN HALF ITS TESTS, MISSING TARGETS. A SCHEDULED MARCH TEST WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THEY ARE EVALUATING THE PREVIOUS FAILURES. THE DIRECTOR FOR THE MISSILE DEFENSE AGENCY TESTIFIED THAT THE FLIGHT TEST FAILURES WEREN'T BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDS. IN FACT HE SAID, QUOTE, I DON'T THINK THOSE FAILURES WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A LARGER OR LESSER BUDGET. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN SOLVE BY THROWING MORE TAXPAYER MONEY AND LARGER DEFICITS AFTER IT. AMERICAN TAXPAYERS CANNOT AFFORD A CONGRESS THAT KEEPS SPENDING MONEY ON PROGRAMS THAT DON'T WORK. NOW, I'M SURE THE OTHER SIDE WILL DISCUSS THE ISSUES OF WHY THE STRATEGIC IMPORTANCE TO A LONG-RANGE MISSILE THREATS FROM NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, BUT A MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T DEFEND AGAINST MISSILES IS NO DEFENSE AT ALL. MY AMENDMENT WOULD CUT FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM BY $400 MILLION JUST AS THE G.A.O. RECOMMENDED. THEY TOOK A CLOSE LOOK AND SET A REASONABLE RECOMMENDATION AND CUT SPENDING BY $405 MILLION. TO QUOTE, UNTIL THE FULL REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED AND MITIGATION IS CONFIRMED THROUGH FLIGHT TESTING, FUNDING FOR G.M.D. IS PREMATURE. I AGREE WITH THE G.A.O. AND RESERVE.

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  • 05:51:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE…

    I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRMAN OF STRA TEAGUE PARTICULAR FORCES, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO,

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  • 05:51:22 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. TURNER

    THIS IS THE FIRST IN A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM…

    THIS IS THE FIRST IN A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE THAT ARE TARGETED AT WEAKENING OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE -- MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM. THIS IS AT A TIME WE SEE RISING INCREASED THREATS FROM IRAN AND NORTH KOREA AND SECRETARY GATES HAVE SAID NORTH KOREA'S PROGRAMS ARE BECOMING A THREAT TO MAINLAND UNITED STATES. IT COMES AT A TIME WHEN OUR PRESIDENT HAS HAD THE OPEN MIC INCIDENT WHEN HE WAS IN SOUTH KOREA AND SPEAKING TO THE PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA, INDICATING HE WAS HOPEFUL TO GET PAST THIS TIME OF THE NEXT ELECTION SO HE COULD HAVE GREATER FLEXIBILITY ON MISSILE DEFENSE. THIS AGREEMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AMENDMENTS WE WILL BE SEEING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE AFTER THE PRESIDENT RETURNED BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, WE ASKED THE PRESIDENT TO TELL US WHAT IS THIS INCREASED FLEXIBILITY AND WHAT HIS INTENTION IN WEAKENING THE MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM. HE WON'T TELL US BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER AMENDMENTS TO WEAKEN OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE. THIS AMENDMENT TRIES TO CUT OUR GROUND-BASED MIDCOURSE DEFENSE SYSTEM WHICH IS THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS MAINLAND UNITED STATES. IT IS PART OF THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN THAT THIS BE SUSTAINED AND AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS SECRET DEAL IS BUT THIS INCLUDES THE INTERCEPTOR WHICH IS THREE FOR THREE. THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT WORKS AND IS IMPORTANT AND WE KNOW THAT IF PEOPLE ARE ON THIS FLOOR ARE SERIOUS ABOUT TRYING TO REDUCE THE DEFICITS, PERHAPS THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THE RYAN BUDGET. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:53:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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    MR. POLIS

    MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    WANT TO POINT OUT THE ISSUE OF THE OPEN MIC. THE PRESIDENT DID RESPOND. HE…

    WANT TO POINT OUT THE ISSUE OF THE OPEN MIC. THE PRESIDENT DID RESPOND. HE SENT A LETTER TO MR. TURNER ON APRIL 13 EXPLAINING WHAT HE MEANT AND WHAT HE MEANT -- MR.

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  • 05:53:36 PM

    MR. TURNER

    GENTLEMAN YIELD?

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    MR. SMITH

    DON'T HAVE TIME. I READ THE LETTER. WHAT IT SAYS WHAT IS OBVIOUS TO…

    DON'T HAVE TIME. I READ THE LETTER. WHAT IT SAYS WHAT IS OBVIOUS TO EVERYBODY, THE PRESIDENT HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION. THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES THAT RUSSIA CAN BE A PARTNER TO REDUCE MISSILE THREAT AND WORK WITH THEM TO DEVELOP MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS. IT'S NO BIG SECRET. THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID. THE OTHER SIDE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH RUSSIA. WE WANT TO WORK WITH WHO NO LONGER IS OUR ENEMY. NO GREAT MYSTERY HERE AND THAT IS WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AS WELL AND SAY THAT THE PROBLEM WE ARE GOING TO NEED A MISSILE DEFENSE AND IT IS FUNDED IN THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET BUT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MISSING SO OFTEN, THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU CAN SPEND TESTING IT. THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY TESTING IT. ADDITIONAL 15 SECONDS. THEY DON'T NEED THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY. SO WE AREN'T SAYING WE DON'T NEED MISSILE DEFENSE. WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON IT AND GOING TO DEVELOP ON IT. THE POINT ON RUSSIA IS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE TO NEGOTIATE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH RUSSIA SO WE ARE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THERE ARE MANY WHO DON'T WANT US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. MR. TURNER IS IN THAT CAMP. HE EXPLAINED IT IN THIS LETTER.

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  • 05:55:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, MR.…

    1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, MR. FRANKS.

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  • 05:55:14 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 1 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. FRANKS

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IT CAN'T BE EMPHASIZED TOO OFTEN THAT OUR…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IT CAN'T BE EMPHASIZED TOO OFTEN THAT OUR GROUND-BASED MIDCOURSE DEFENSE IS THE ONLY TESTED SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THAT DEFENDS THE HOMELAND OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST THE MOST DANGEROUS AND POWERFUL WEAPONS MANKIND HAS EVER KNOWN. AND I JUST SOMEHOW HAVE A HARD TIME COGNITIVELY GRASPING WHY A NUCLEAR MISSILE LANDING ON OUR HOMELAND DOESN'T ALARM PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN IT SEEMS TO. ASSUMING THE MISSILE IS ABLE TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THE HOMELAND, AN ASSUMPTION THAT G.A.O. CALLS INTO QUESTION, THIS SYSTEM WILL BE THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE HOMELAND UNTIL AT LEAST 2020. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE MAKE A DESPERATE MISTAKE BY THAT WHATEVER REASON, SECRET DEAL WITH THE RUSSIANS, WHATEVER IT IS, TO REDUCE THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT PROTECTS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS FOLLY. AND WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 05:56:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO HAS 1 3/4 AND THE…

    GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO HAS 1 3/4 AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXT HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES.

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  • 05:56:35 PM

    MR. POLIS

    DOESN'T WORK, MISSING TARGETS MORE THAN HALF THE TIME AND CAN'T SOLVE THE…

    DOESN'T WORK, MISSING TARGETS MORE THAN HALF THE TIME AND CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM BY THROWING MORE GOVERNMENT MONEY AT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. ANDREWS.

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  • 05:56:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. ANDREWS

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 1 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. LAMBORN

    THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING COLORADO SPRINGS IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT…

    THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING COLORADO SPRINGS IN MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHICH HAS MISSILE DEFENSE AGENCY AND SOME OF THESE OTHER IMPORTANT ASSETS FOR OUR NATION'S DEFENSE AND I TOTALLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT OF MY COLLEAGUE FROM NORTHERN COLORADO. WE DO HAVE GROUND-BASED INTERCEPTORS ON THE WEST COAST, GROUND-BASED INTERCEPTORS IN ALASKA AND WE NEED THEM ON THE EAST COAST AND WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THAT. THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE SLASHED WOULD GO TO STARTING THE PLANNING PROCESS AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. IT IS A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS. WE NEED TO START THE PLANNING NOW SO WE CAN DEFEND THE HEAVY POPULATION CENTERS ON THE EAST COAST FROM INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC THREATS. THERE ARE ROGUE NATIONS IN THIS WORLD THAT MEAN US HARM AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF AN ACCIDENTAL LAUNCH BY A NUMBER OF COUNTRIES. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF DEFENSE. THE INSTITUTE FOR DEFENSE ANALYSIS DID A STUDY THAT CONGRESS CALLED FOR AND SAID WE NEED AN EAST COAST SITE. SHOULD THIS AMENDMENT PASS, THAT MONEY WON'T BE THERE TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS. UNFORTUNATELY, BARACK OBAMA HAS BEEN SLASHING MISSILE DEFENSE FOR THREE YEARS NOW. THIS BAD AMENDMENT WOULD CONTINUE THAT SAME TREND. THE C.E.-1 INTERCEPTOR HAS WORKED 300 TIMES AND THAT IS 100% RECORD. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY SAID FIX IT FIRST THEN FUND IT. YOU FUND IT SO YOU CAN FIX IT. THEY HAVE IT BACKWARDS, I'M AFRAID. A VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS REALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A VOTE AGAINST A STRONG MISSILE DEFENSE FOR THE UNITED STATES. I URGE A NO VOTE.

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  • 05:59:44 PM

    MR. POLIS

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM TEXAS.

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    MR. THORNBERRY

    THE REMAINING TIME TO MR. TURNER. .

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    MR. TURNER

    ONLY DEPLOYED SYSTEM WE HAVE THAT PROTECTS MAINLAND UNITED STATES AND IT…

    ONLY DEPLOYED SYSTEM WE HAVE THAT PROTECTS MAINLAND UNITED STATES AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESIDENT'S SECRET DEAL. THE PRESIDENT HAS NEVER ANSWERED OUR REQUEST ABOUT HIS SECRET DEAL WITH THE RUSSIANS. I HAVE GREATER FLEXIBILITY AFTER I GET PAST THE ELECTION. IMAGINE THE AUDACITY OF SAYING THAT WHEN HE'S NO LONGER SUBJECT TO THE ELECTORATE THAT HE'S GOING TO DISCLOSE A NEW MISSILE DEFENSE DEAL OR ARRANGEMENT WITH THE RUSSIANS. IN FACT, PUTIN HIMSELF ACKNOWLEDGES THE AGREEMENT IN A MARCH 2, 2012, INTERVIEW WITH A RUSSIAN NEWSPAPER, HE INDICATES THAT THEY MADE A PROPOSAL JUST DURING THE TALKS. THEY TOLD US WE'D OFFER YOU THIS AND THAT, AND THEY ASKED HEM TO PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER. THERE'S NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN US AND THE RUSSIANS. THE PRESIDENT WAS CAUGHT IN AN OPEN MIKE. THERE AMENDMENT WOULD WEAKEN OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE AND OUR MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM AS WOULD THE PRESIDENT'S SECRET DEAL WITH THE RUSSIANS. VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:01:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    QUESTION OCCURS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.…

    QUESTION OCCURS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE. IT

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  • 06:01:57 PM

    MR. POLIS

    CHAIRMAN, ON CONTRAI REQUEST THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE CHAIR

    I DO.

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    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 06:02:16 PM

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, PURSUANT TO H.RES. 661 I OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC.

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    THE CLERK

    2, CONSISTING OF AMENDMENTS NUMBERED 33, 36, 65, 66, 75, 85, 89, 93, 98,…

    2, CONSISTING OF AMENDMENTS NUMBERED 33, 36, 65, 66, 75, 85, 89, 93, 98, 100, 104, 124, 127 AND 128. PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MCKEON OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 06:02:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 06:03:00 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AT THIS TIME I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AT THIS TIME I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COLLOQUY.

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  • 06:03:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. WESTMORELAND

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO COMMEND THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE OF THEIR GOOD…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TO COMMEND THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE OF THEIR GOOD WORK IN THE NUMBER OF AREAS OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013. BUT I HAVE A CONCERN WITH REPORT LANGUAGE FROM SECTION 815 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION. I CERTAINLY APPROVE OF UTILIZING COMPETITION TO BOTH IMPROVE CONTRACT PERFORMANCE AND COST EFFECTIVENESS OF WEAPONS SYSTEMS. HOWEVER, I WANT TO BRING TO ATTENTION THE FACT THAT THE C.17 AND ITS F-117 ENGINES HAVE BEEN A MODEL OF MODERN SUSTAINMENT. TODAY TIME ON WINGS FOR THE F-17 ENGINE HAS DOUBLED SINCE THE START OF THIS SUSTAINMENT PROGRAM WHILE MAKING MULTIPLE DESIGN AND HARDWARE UPGRADES. TODAY THE F-17 ENGINES ARE SUSTAINED THROUGH AN AWARD-WINNING PERFORMANCE BASED ON LOGISTICS CONTRACTS THAT MINIMIZES LIFE CYCLE COSTS WITH FIXED FEES BASED ON FLIGHT CYCLES. THIS CONTRACT REQUIRES COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING IN INVESTMENT BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER ALONG WITH THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, EXPERTISE TO DEVELOP AND IMPROVEMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE ACTUAL MISSION. I SUPPORT THE USE OF EVERY PRACTICAL MEANS OF PROVIDING FOR THE EFFICIENT DEFENSE OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE PROTECTION OF OUR WAR FIGHTERS. THAT INCLUDES THE APPROPRIATE USE OF EXRETIGS AND ANY OTHER -- COMPETITION AND ANY OTHER CONTRACTING METHOD THAT INCENTIVIZES POSITIVE OUTCOMES FOR COST EFFECTIVENESS AND PERFORMANCE. IN FACT, THE AIR FORCE HAS TAKEN STEPS TO ENSURE THESE OUTCOMES ARE ACHIEVED ON THE C.17 SUSTAINMENT CONTRACT. AS WE PUSH THE AIR FORCE AND OTHER SERVICERS TO EXTEND THE PRACTICES FURTHER WE MUST ALWAYS KEEP RELIABILITY AND READINESS OF THE WEAPONS SYSTEMS IN MIND. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CHAIRMAN TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IN CONFERENCE AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 06:05:07 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR HIS REMARKS AND HIS STRONG SUPPORT…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR HIS REMARKS AND HIS STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE READINESS OF OUR ARMED FORCES. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT OUR C.17 FLEET IS DOING A REMARKABLE JOB AROUND THE GLOBE AND I ASSURE THE GENTLEMAN THAT THIS COMMITTEE STRONGLY SHARES IN YOUR DESIRE TO ENSURE THAT THE C.17 CONTINUES TO PERFORM MAGNIFICENTLY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.

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  • 06:05:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE?

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    MR. SMITH

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD 1 1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA,…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD 1 1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA, MR. BOSWELL.

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  • 06:05:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM IOWA IS RECOGNIZED FOR 1 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. BOSWELL

    EXTEND. UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.

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    THE CHAIR

    EXTEND. WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    MR. BOSWELL

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE EN BLOC FOR A…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE EN BLOC FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. AS WE KNOW THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'M CONCERNED AND TALKING ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH THE ISSUE OF MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS AND TO ADD TO THE ARMED FORCES RESEARCH ACT OF 2012 TO THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. AMENDMENT 216 REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE TO SUBMIT A REPORT ON THE EFFECTS THAT MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS HAVE ON THE WELL-BEING OF OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL. AND I ALONG WITH SOME OF YOU HAVE SOME APPRECIATION FOR MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS. WE USED TO CALL THEM TOURS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT DEPLOYMENTS AND THE IMPACT ON OUR TROOPS AND UNIFORM AND OUR FAMILIES IS SEVERE. WE NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. THE OTHER IS I HAD A FORMER STAFFER THAT WENT TO A FIVE-YEAR REUNION, FEMALE STAFFER, SHE'S AN IRAQ WAR VETERAN AND SHE RETURNED TO TELL ME THAT SIX OF THE 70 WOMEN IN HER BATTALION AGED 25 TO 35 HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER AND OTHERS HAD NONCANCEROUS MASSES. THIS STARTLED ME. AND SO WE DID A STUDY THAT BREAST CANCER IS MORE PERMANENT IN MILITARY WOMEN THAN CIVILIANS. AT LAST COUNT AT LEAST 78 MEN WHO SERVED AT CAMP LEJEUNE BETWEEN 1950 AND 1985 HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER. THESE MARINES AND FAMILY DESERVE MORE INFORMATION. LAST CONGRESS THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN VETERANS OF AMERICA AND THE V.F.W. SUPPORTED CONDUCTING THE STUDY. MORE TROOPS ARE RETURNING FROM DUTY ONLY TO FACE A NEW BATTLE, BREAST CANCER SO, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO GET THEM ANSWERS. SUPPORT THIS EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND THE OTHER GOOD FEATURES OF IT. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:07:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 06:07:48 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARIZONA,

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  • 06:07:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM ARIZONA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 06:07:55 PM

    MR. FLAKE

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I THANK HIM FOR INCLUDING IN THIS EN…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. I THANK HIM FOR INCLUDING IN THIS EN BLOC AMENDMENT AN AMENDMENT THAT MYSELF AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, MR. MULVANEY, OFFERED. TO ENSURE THAT WE BUDGET HONESTLY. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE OVERSEAS CONTINGENT OPERATIONS ACCOUNT OR OCO. WE FEAR IT'S SOMETIMES USED TO PUT IN ITEMS WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME PART OF THE BUDGET, THAT ARE ABOVE THE BUDGET OR OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET. THIS AMENDMENT WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE ITEMS IN THIS ACCOUNT ARE WAR-RELATED AND NOT SIMPLY ITEMS TO GET AROUND BUDGET CONSTRAINTS IN THE BUDGET WE HAVE ESTABLISHED FOR DEFENSE. SO I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR PUTTING THIS IN. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT. WE'VE GOT TO ENSURE THAT WE BUDGET HONESTLY AND MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE WE KNOW WHAT OUR BUDGET IS, WE KNOW WHAT ACCOUNTS ARE DOING AND THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU.

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  • 06:08:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. WHO SEEKS TIME? THE…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. WHO SEEKS TIME? THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 06:09:04 PM

    MR. SMITH

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 06:09:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 06:09:09 PM

    MR. SMITH

    YOU. I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT, WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, TO TALK A…

    YOU. I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT, WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AFGHANISTAN AND TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS SINCE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET OUR AMENDMENT RULED IN IN ORDER. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BASE BILL HAS LANGUAGE ON AFGHANISTAN AND THE BASE BILL CALLS FOR US KEEPING 68,000 TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN UNTIL THE END OF 2014 AND THEN MAKES UNSPECIFIED REQUESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT TROOPS TO ACCOMPLISH A SERIES OF MISSIONS AFTER 2014. IT VERY AGGRESSIVELY CALLS FOR A LARGE TROOP PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. I AND MANY MEMBERS ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE AS WELL AS SOME ON THE OTHER OPPOSE THAT. WE DO NOT THINK THAT KEEPING THAT MANY TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN FOR THAT LONG IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY OR OUR COUNTRY. AND THE BULK OF THE COUNTRY AGREES WITH US ON THAT. UNFORTUNATELY WE WEREN'T OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER OUR AMENDMENT THAT OFFERS WHAT I THINK IS A BETTER APPROACH. I'M ALSO GOING TO RELUCTANTLY OPPOSE REPRESENTATIVE LEE'S AMENDMENT. THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE WE WERE GIVEN, WHICH IS TO PULL US OUT AS FAST AS WE CAN, SAFELY AND RESPONSIBLY. REPRESENTATIVE LEE'S AMENDMENT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN ANY SORT OF COUNTERTERRORISM MISSION WHICH I DO THINK IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. THE AMENDMENT WE WANTED TO OFFER WAS TO PUT US ON A MORE AGGRESSIVE, QUICKER DRAWDOWN PACE, TO SPEED UP TRANSITION TO THE AFGHAN FORCES FOR SECURITY WHILE ENABLING US WITH A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF TROOPS TO MAINTAIN THAT COUNTERTERRORISM MISSION. WE HAVE TRAINED OVER 350 AFGHAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCES. THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER RESPONSIBLE FOR AN INCREASING NUMBER OF PROVINCES AND DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND FOR AN INCREASING NUMBER OF SECURITY RESPONSIBILITIES. IT IS TIME TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION. AND MY OBJECTION TO THE BASE BILL IS IT DOESN'T GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE IT MISTAKENLY BELIEVES THAT THE KEY TO AFGHAN STABILITY IS KEEPING AS MANY U.S. TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. HAVING THAT LARGE OF A FOREIGN MILITARY FORCE, AS WE HAVE SEEN, HAS BEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN ATTACKS BY AFGHAN FORCES ON U.S. FORCES. WE HAD THE KORAN BURNING INCIDENT, WE HAD THE HORRIBLE INCIDENT OF A SOLDIER GOING OFF AND KILLING -- ALLEGEDLY, KILLING 16 OR 17 CIVILIANS IN AFGHANISTAN. OUR PRESENCE AT THIS POINT IS IN AND OF ITSELF DESTABILIZING. WHAT WE WANT IS A RESPONSIBLE DRAWDOWN OF THAT FORCE. WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT HASTILY. IN A WAY THAT JEOPARDIZES THE MISSION OR JEOPARDIZES AFGHANISTAN. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT I, ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN MCGOVERN AND OTHERS, AUTHORED. AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT FOR REASONS THAT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE MAJORITY REFUSED TO ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE. THAT NOW, AS I SAID EARLIER I SPECULATED THAT PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE WITH US. IT'S A DEBATE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE AND A VOTE THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE. AND I RESPECT THAT. A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE JOKED TO ME OVER THE YEARS, TOUGHEST PART ABOUT THIS JOB IS VOTING. THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE SEE WHERE YOU STAND. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES -- I'LL YIELD MYSELF AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES WHERE I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT BUT IT COMES WITH THE JOB AND PARTICULAR ON SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS AFGHANISTAN. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD DISPUTE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS BILL, THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE BILL THIS YEAR, IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN AFGHANISTAN. SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE, WE'RE DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOTE ON WHAT I THINK IS A MUCH BETTER PLAN AND LEAVE IN PLACE IN THE BASE BILL A CALL FOR HAVING 68,000 TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN UNTIL THE END OF 2014. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THE MAJORITY IS IN FAVOR OF A LARGER TROOP PRESENCE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF A SMALLER TROOP PRESENCE FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. I BELIEVE IT'S THE BETTER POLICY, I REGRET THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT. BUT AS WE GO INTO CONFERENCE I WILL STRENUOUSLY ARGUE THIS POINT. IT IS A MAJOR FLAW I BELIEVE IN AN OTHERWISE VERY STRONG BILL. AND WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:13:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 06:13:18 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 06:13:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR AS MUCH TIME AS HE MAY CONSUME.

  • 06:13:26 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    AS MY FRIEND IN CHARACTERIZING OR TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. SO I WOULD JUST…

    AS MY FRIEND IN CHARACTERIZING OR TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ FROM THE BILL WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS. THE UNITED STATES MILITARY SHOULD NOT MAINTAIN AN INDEFINITE COMBAT MISSION, SHOULD NOT MAINTAIN AN INDEFINITE COMBAT MISSION IN AFGHANISTAN AND SHOULD TRANSITION TO A COUNTERTERRORISM AND ADVISE AND ASSIST MISSION AT THE EARLIEST PRACTICABLE DATE, CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND. IN ORDER TO REDUCE THIS UNCERTAINTY AND TO PROMOTE FURTHER STABILITY AND SECURITY IN AFGHANISTAN, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD FULLY CONSIDER THE INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ASSISTANCE FORCE, COMMAND -- FORCE COMMANDER'S ASSESSMENT IN REGARD TO THE UNITED STATES TO MAINTAIN A SIGNIFICANT COMBAT PRESENCE THROUGH 2013. AND FINALLY MAINTAIN A FORCE OF AT LEAST 68,000 TROOPS THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2014, UNLESS FEWER FORCES CAN ACHIEVE THE UNITED STATES' OBJECTIVE. THIS IS THE POLICY THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF IN CONSULTATION WITH THE GENERALS AND THE FIELD COMMANDERS. NOW, I MET WITH GENERAL ALLEN, THE COMMANDER IN AFGHANISTAN, ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND I ASKED HIM HOW MANY TROOPS HE NEEDED AND HE SAID HE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING. HE DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBER YET. WHEN HE GOT THAT NUMBER HE WOULD SEND IT BACK THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. AT THAT TIME IF HE FINDS AFTER HIS ASSESSMENT THAT HE MAY BE ABLE TO WITHDRAW TROOPS SOONER OR MAY BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH HIS MISSION WITH LESS THAN 68,000, I WOULD IMAGINE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF WILL WANT TO CHANGE HIS POLICY. . AND THIS ALLOWS FOR THAT BECAUSE IF THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COMMANDER IN THE FIELD SAYS WE CAN DO IT WITH FEWER FORCES TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE BILL SAYS. RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 06:15:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 06:15:49 PM

    MR. SMITH

    I WOULD JUST SAY NO PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN CALLS FOR HAVING AT LEAST…

    I WOULD JUST SAY NO PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN CALLS FOR HAVING AT LEAST 68,000 TROOPS THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2014. IF YOU STRUCK THAT OUT OF THE BILL, THAT WOULD CHANGE THINGS. HAVING THAT NUMBER IN THERE MAKES AN ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CONNECTICUT, MS. DELAURO.

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  • 06:16:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLELADY FROM CONNECTICUT IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 06:16:21 PM

    MS. DELAURO

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, IT INCLUDES MY AMENDMENT PROHIBITING…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, IT INCLUDES MY AMENDMENT PROHIBITING THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT PURCHASING HELICOPTERS FOR THE AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES FROM ANY ENTITY, CONTROLLED OR DIRECTED OR INFLUENCED BY RUSSIA, ANYONE THAT PROVIDES WEAPONS TO SYRIA OR OTHER STATE SPONSORS OF TERRORISM AND REQUIRES THAT ANY SUCH FUTURE CONTRACTS BE COMPETITIVELY BID. THE U.N. ESTIMATES MORE THAN 9,000 PEOPLE IN SYRIA HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE ASSAD REGIME SINCE VIOLENCE BEGAN THAT. A RUSSIAN ARMS DEALER CONTINUES TO PROVIDE THAT REGIME WITH THE MEANS TO PERPETRATE WIDESPREAD, SYSTEMIC ATTACKS ON ITS CITIZENS AND HAS SUPPLIED SYRIA WITH 36 COMBAT JETS. INCREDIBLY, THE DENS DEPARTMENT IS PURCHASING 21 MI-17 HELICOPTERS FOR THE AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES THROUGH A NO-BID CONTRACT WITH THAT RUSSIAN COMPANY EVEN THOUGH IT SUPPLIES ARMS TO SYRIA AND WAS ON THE LIST FOR PROVIDING NUCLEAR ASSISTANCE TO IRAN. U.S. TAXPAYERS SHOULD NOT BE PROVIDING HELICOPTERS TO THE AFGHANS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY THAT PERPETRATES TERRORISM. THE DOLLARS SHOULD BE SPENT ON AMERICAN SYSTEMS THAT CREATE JOBS HERE AT HOME.

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  • 06:17:53 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. GRIMM.

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  • 06:17:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 06:18:02 PM

    MR. GRIMM

    THAT THE D.O.D. FACES A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE IMBALANCING CUTS WITH OUR…

    THAT THE D.O.D. FACES A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE IMBALANCING CUTS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED ELIMINATION OF TWO NATIONAL GUARD CIVIL SUPPORT TEAMS POSES TREMENDOUS RISK. THESE TEAMS ARE HIGHLY TRAINED UNITS THAT PROVIDE RAPID SUPPORT TO CIVIL AUTHORITIES. OF SPECIAL CONCERNS IS PROPOSED ELIMINATION OF THE 24TH C.S.T. LOCATED IN NEW YORK CITY. THIS TEAM HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN CONTINGENCY PREPARATIONS FOR HIGH-PROFILE ACTIVITIES LIKE MASS I HAVE SPORTING EVENTS AND HAVE RESPONDED TO NUMEROUS CRISIS SITUATIONS AND MY AMENDMENT WHICH OFFERED BY MY COLLEAGUES, SIMPLY CHANGES THE AUTHORIZED NUMBER OF TEAMS FROM 55 TO 57, BRINGING THIS IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT NUMBER OF ACTIVE TEAMS. MAKING SURE NEW YORK CITY, A TOP TERRORIST TARGET HAS THE ASSETS NEEDED SHOULD WE FACE ANOTHER TERRORIST ATTACK IS VITAL. AND I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUE TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:19:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

  • 06:19:14 PM

    MR. SMITH

    TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 06:19:21 PM

    MR. ALTMIRE

    -- AND YIELD BACK.

  • 06:20:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT?

  • 06:20:31 PM

    MR. SMITH

    HAVE LEFT?

  • 06:20:39 PM

    MR. SMITH

    REMAINDER OF MY TIME TO MR. FRANK.

  • 06:20:45 PM

    MR. FRANK

    BILL THAT ILLUSTRATES AN OLD SAYING, ADDING INSULT TO INJURY. THE INSULT…

    BILL THAT ILLUSTRATES AN OLD SAYING, ADDING INSULT TO INJURY. THE INSULT IS THE TERMS OF WHICH WE ARE DATING THIS VAST COMMITMENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE WE HAVE, DEFENSE. PEOPLE WILL BE DEBATING AT 11:00 TONIGHT AND FIVE MINUTES ON THIS SIDE, VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. WE HAD A FEW MINUTES TO DEBATE IMPORTANT ISSUE ON AFGHANISTAN. WE WILL TRY TO BRING THIS BUDGET NUMBER DOWN, $8 MILLION AT LEAST AND THEY WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES IN WHICH TO DO IT. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS AND IMPORTANT TO NOTE IF THIS BILL GOES THROUGH, IT IS A STATEMENT THAT EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AT HOME WILL BE SACRIFICED TO FOREIGN ADVENTURES THAT ARE ILL-FATED IN MANY CASES. I READ A LETTER FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE TO THE SECRETARY OF DENS, WHO SAID, HE SAID, MR. SECRETARY, IF WE INCREASE SPENDING, IT WON'T COME OUT OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY ACCOUNTS. IT WILL COME OUT OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID, PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, IT WILL COME OUT OF POLICE ON OUR STREETS. THERE IS AN EXCESS OF MONEY. AFGHANISTAN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. 68,000 TROOPS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON SAID, THEY PUT DOWN 68,000 TROOPS DICTATING TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OR DICTATING WHAT IT SHOULD BE. THERE IS AN EFFORT GOING ON IN AFGHANISTAN WHICH HAS GONE FAR BEYOND WHICH WAS JUSTIFIED BY OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO SPEND MORE THAN IS NECESSARY ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS WHEN THE MILITARY HASN'T ASKED FOR. AND WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? IT COMES FROM EVERYTHING WE TRY TO DO TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AT HOME. THIS IS AN ATTACK ON OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING THAT AMERICA NEEDS FOR A DECENT SET OF CONDITIONS HERE. NO ONE IS OPPOSING ADEQUATE NATIONAL DEFENSE. THIS CONTINUES A PATTERN OF OVERSPENDING. I REMEMBER AGAIN WHAT RUPERT MURDOCH SAID HAILING THE REPUBLICAN BUDGET. IT PROTECTS DEFENSE SO THEY CAN CUT MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND OTHER DOMESTIC PROGRAMS. IT IS TOO BAD WE DON'T HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO EXPOSE THAT WHICH IS GOING ON.

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  • 06:23:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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  • 06:23:24 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING?

  • 06:23:30 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MYSELF SUCH TIME AS MAY REMAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. WE HAVE JUST…

    MYSELF SUCH TIME AS MAY REMAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. WE HAVE JUST CUT IN THIS BUDGET AND IN THE PREVIOUS DEFICIT REDUCTION ACT $487 BILLION AND ANOTHER $600 BILLION THAT KICKS IN IN SEQUESTRATION IN JANUARY. OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 110 BILLION OUT OF DEFENSE AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR. IN MY WAR, I HAVE SEEN US CUT BACK AFTER EVERY WAR SO WE WON'T BE PREPARED, I GUESS, FOR THE NEXT ONE. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET INTO THE NEXT CONFLICT, BEING NOT PREPARED AND HAVING RUN OUR MILITARY DOWN, WE END UP LOSING A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE WAY IF WE CAN OVERCOME IT. I WAS IN A MEETING IN THE PENTAGON A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN THE SECRETARY WAS LAYING OUT THIS BUDGET. AND A SENIOR MILITARY OFFICER, ONE OF THE HIGHEST RANKING IN OUR COUNTRY, WAS SITTING ACROSS THE TABLE FROM ME WHEN HE LOOKED AT ME, AT THE END OF THE MEETING, HE SAID, IN MY 37 YEARS IN THE MILITARY DOING THIS, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TIME MORE SERIOUS, MORE DANGEROUS THAN RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE'RE FACING POSSIBLE NUCLEAR WEAPON IN IRAN. MUCH OF THE TERRORISM THAT WE SEE AROUND THE WORLD IS NURTURED AND PAID FOR AND EMBRACED AND SENT FORTH FROM IRAN. WE HAVE THE PROBLEM WE KNOW IN NORTH KOREA. WE HAVE THE PROBLEM OF CHINA THAT'S INCREASING THEIR DEFENSE SPENDING AND PUSHING US FURTHER BACK AND HELPING US DEFEND TIE JUAN AND OTHER COMMITMENTS -- TAIWAN AND OTHER COMMITMENTS. WE HAD THE ARAB SPRING, AND WHERE IS THE NEXT HOT SPOT GOING TO BE? WE DO NOT KNOW. BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT WHEN YOU RUN DOWN YOUR DEFENSES, THAT'S WHEN SOMEBODY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE. PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID, WE SHOULD HAVE PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. GENERAL EISENHOWER, PRESIDENT EISENHOWER, WE HEAR THE QUOTES, BEWARE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. HE ALSO SAID, OUR MILITARY, OUR STRENGTH, OUR PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP US SAFE. AND WE SHOULD BE SO STRONG THAT NO ONE EVER SHOULD DARE ATTACK US FOR FEAR OF BEING ANNIHILATED. IT'S WHEN WE RUN DOWN THOSE FORCES. I REMEMBER I WAS AT THE REAGAN LIBRARY RECENTLY AND SHOWED A VIDEO OF PRESIDENT REAGAN IN 1980 AND YOU MIGHT RECALL WE HAD HOSTAGES IN IRAN THAT HAD BEEN CAUSING LOTS OF PROBLEMS FOR PRESIDENT CARTER. AND WE TRIED TO SEND THE MILITARY ON A MISSION AND THEY COULDN'T FLY ACROSS THE DESERT WITH THE EQUIPMENT WE HAD AT THAT TIME. WE HAD A HOLLOWED-OUT MILITARY. WE DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE AT THIS POINT. HALF OF THE SAVINGS WE HAVE TAKEN IN DEFICIT REDUCTION HAVE COME OUT OF THE MILITARY. WE HAVE DONE THIS ON THE BACK OF OUR TROOPS WHEN THEY ACCOUNT FOR LESS THAN 19% OF THE OVERALL SPENDING. IF WE HAD NO DISCRETIONARY SPENDING, WE WOULD BE RUNNING A DEFICIT OF A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S NO MILITARY SPENDING, NO EDUCATION SPENDING, NO SPENDING ON OUR PARKS. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 06:27:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMOUNT EN BLOC OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT, THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT EN BLOC IS AGREED TO.

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  • 06:27:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS ON…

    CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON THOSE AMENDMENTS ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER. AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 BY MR. ROHRABACHER OF CALIFORNIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 5, MS. LEE OF CALIFORNIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 BY MR. CONNELLY OF VIRGINIA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 OF MR. ROONEY OF FLORIDA. AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 OF MR. BARTLETT OF MARYLAND. AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 BY MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS AND AMENDMENT NUMBER 12. THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO TWO MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST VOTE. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. ROHRABACHER, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:28:46 PM

    THE CLERK

    PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. ROHRABACHER OF CALIFORNIA.

  • 06:28:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A RECORDED VOTE…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A 15-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 06:52:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE YEAS ARE 84, THE NAYS ARE 335 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE…

    THE YEAS ARE 84, THE NAYS ARE 335 AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 --

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  • 06:52:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    BE IN ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN…

    BE IN ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER.

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  • 06:53:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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    >>

    SPEAK OUT OF ORDER FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 06:53:53 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN WILL…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN WILL SUSPEND. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 06:54:07 PM

    MR. MILLER

    AGO WE HAD THE 20TH ANNUAL CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMAN SHOOTOUT. I'M PLEASED…

    AGO WE HAD THE 20TH ANNUAL CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMAN SHOOTOUT. I'M PLEASED TO SAY FOR THE MAJORITY SIDE OF THE AISLE, WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO RETURN TO THE TROPHY BACK TO OUR SIDE TO MY GOOD FRIEND, MIKE ROSS, WHO HAS FLED THE ROOM SOMEWHERE AND SUPPOSED TO BE STANDING OVER HERE -- OH, THERE HE IS. HI, MIKE. I WANT TO SAY, NICE TRY. WE HAD A GREAT DAY RAISING MONEY FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMEN'S FOUNDATION, A FOUNDATION THAT HELPS FUND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO LEARN B.P. HUNTING, FISHING AND CONSERVATION, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT BIPARTISAN THINGS WE DO AS A GROUP. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE WILL MISS YOUR ENTHUSIASM AS YOU LEAVE THIS BODY FOR HUNTING AND THE OUTDOORS. AND I YIELD TO MY GOOD FRIEND, MIKE ROSS FROM ARKANSAS.

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  • 06:55:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS…

    WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM ARKANSAS IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 06:55:26 PM

    MR. ROSS

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA. AND LET ME JUST SAY THE CONGRESSIONAL…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA. AND LET ME JUST SAY THE CONGRESSIONAL SPORTSMEN'S CAUCUS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST BIPARTISAN CAUCUSES IN THE CONGRESS. THE WORK WE DO TOGETHER IS VERY IMPORTANT AND AT A TIME WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT DIVIDE US, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE UNITE ON AND HELPS MAKE IT THE LARGEST BIPARTISAN CAUCUS OR ONE OF THE LARGEST, IF NOT THE LARGEST BIPARTISAN CAUCUS IN THE CONGRESS. LET ME MAKE THE POINT THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE WON THE ANNUAL SKEET, TRAP AND CLAY SPORTING CHAMPION FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND WE WERE FEELING BAD ABOUT IT, SO WE ZEEDED THAT THIS YEAR, WE WOULD MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR SHOTGUNS HAD A FULL CHOKE AND ONE ARM TIED BEHIND OUR BACK TO MAKE IT MORE FAIR AND MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TIED OUR ARMS BEHIND OUR BACKS AND WE CONGRATULATE YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR.

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  • 06:56:35 PM

    MR. MILLER

    THE TOP GUN OF THE DAY, DUNCAN HUNTER. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WITHOUT OBJECTION,…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. WITHOUT OBJECTION, TWO-MINUTE VOTING WILL RESUME. UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 BY THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. LEE, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 06:57:03 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MS. LEE OF CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL…

    HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO--MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:00:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE -- THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED…

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE -- THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. CONNOLLY, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:00:38 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 6 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CONNOLLY OF VIRGINIA.

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  • 07:00:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:04:25 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 412, THE NAYS ARE ONE. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED…

    YEAS ARE 412, THE NAYS ARE ONE. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. ROONEY, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:04:44 PM

    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 7 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. ROONEY OF FLORIDA.

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    THE CHAIR

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:09:08 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 249, THE NAYS ARE 171, THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE…

    VOTE THE YEAS ARE 249, THE NAYS ARE 171, THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR. BARTLETT, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE AYES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:09:28 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER -- NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-485 OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER -- NUMBER 8 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 11-485 OFFERED BY MR. BATTER -- 112 HLING 485 OFFERED BY MR. -- 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. BARTLETT OF MARYLAND.

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  • 07:09:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A…

    RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE HAS BEEN ORDERED. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:13:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YEAS ARE 211, THE NAYS ARE 209. THE AMENDMENT'S AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED…

    YEAS ARE 211, THE NAYS ARE 209. THE AMENDMENT'S AGREED TO. THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, ON WHICH FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE. THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:13:32 PM

    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MARKEY…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MARKEY OF MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 07:13:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE --

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. POLIS…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. POLIS OF COLORADO.

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  • 07:17:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FARE OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE…

    VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. THOSE IN FARE OF THE REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED. A RECORDED VOTE IS ORDERED. MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THIS IS A TWO-MINUTE VOTE. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]

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  • 07:20:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 165, THE NAYS ARE 262 THE AMENDMENT IS NOT…

    ON THIS VOTE, THE YEAS ARE 165, THE NAYS ARE 262 THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:21:19 PM

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    COMMITTEE NOW RISE.

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    THE CHAIR

    MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    MR. SPEAKER. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE COMMEL -- COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE…

    MR. SPEAKER. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE COMMEL -- COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 4160 AND COME TO NO DON COLLUSION THEREON.

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  • 07:22:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION…

    THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION REPORTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION H.R. 4310 AND HAS COME TO NO RESOLUTION THEREON. THE CHAIR LAYS BEFORE THE HOUSE AN ENROLLED BILL.

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  • 07:22:25 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE EXPORT-IMPORT BANK OF THE UNITED STATES AND FOR OTHER…

    TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE EXPORT-IMPORT BANK OF THE UNITED STATES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 07:23:49 PM

    THE CHAIR

    WILL REPORT THE MOTION.

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    THE CLERK

    INSTRUCT CONFEREES ON H R. -- OFFERED BY MR. BARROW OF GEORGIA. MR. BARROW…

    INSTRUCT CONFEREES ON H R. -- OFFERED BY MR. BARROW OF GEORGIA. MR. BARROW OF GEORGIA MOVES TO INSTRUCT THE CON -- THAT THE CONFEREES BE INSTRUCTED TO INSIST ON TITLE 2 OF THE HOUSE BILL REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE.

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  • 07:24:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    7 OF RULE 22, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. BARROW AND THE GENTLEMAN…

    7 OF RULE 22, THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. BARROW AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. UPTON, WILL EACH CONTROL 30 MINUTES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE? THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER.

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  • 07:24:36 PM

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    I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SWITCH -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SWITCH -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 07:24:42 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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    IF THE PERSON CLAIMING TIME TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION IS OPPOSED TO THE…

    IF THE PERSON CLAIMING TIME TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION IS OPPOSED TO THE MOTION.

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  • 07:25:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. IS THE GENTLEMAN…

    THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. IS THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR. UPTON, CLAIMING TIME IN OPPOSITION?

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  • 07:25:28 PM

    MR. UPTON

    I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM TIME ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN SUPPORT OF THE BARROW…

    I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM TIME ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN SUPPORT OF THE BARROW RESOLUTION.

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  • 07:25:39 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE B-2, THE GENTLEMAN WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES, THE…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE B-2, THE GENTLEMAN WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES AND MR. WAXMAN WILL CONTROL 20 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. BARROW.

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  • 07:25:53 PM

    MR. BARROW

    YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN IS CORRECT. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA DESERVES TO BE HEARD. MEMBERS WILL TAKE THEIR SEATS.

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  • 07:26:52 PM

    MR. BARROW

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN, I THANK THE SPEAKER. NOT ONLY WILL THIS PROJECT…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN, I THANK THE SPEAKER. NOT ONLY WILL THIS PROJECT CREATE THOUSANDS OF MUCH-NEEDED JOBS -- JOBS, IT WILL SECURE AMERICA'S FUTURE BY PRODUCING FOREIGN OIL. BY WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, WE'LL BETTER PROTECT FAMILY HERE'S AT HOME FROM THE ENERGY MARKET INSECURITY CAUSED BY POLITICAL TROUBLES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. ESTIMATES VARY BUT THE MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES 7,000 JOBS. LET'S PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE 840,000 BARRELS OF OIL A DAY INTO OUR DOMESTIC REFINING CAPACITY AND DOMESTIC MARKET. PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. AMERICA IMPORTS ABOUT 8.4 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY. THE CARRYING CAPACITY OF THIS PIPELINE ALONE IS 10% OF AMERICA'S NET NATIONAL DAILY IMPORTS. AMERICA CONSUMES 20 MILLION BARRELS A DAY. THE CARRYING CAPACITY OF THIS PIPELINE IS 5% OF CURRENT U.S. DAILY CONSUMPTION OF OIL PRODUCTS. THE U.S. DAILY PRODUCE 8. MILLION PAYROLLS A DAY, THIS PIPELINE WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BRING IN 10% MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PRODUCING ON A DAILY BASIS IN THIS COUNTRY. IT ALSO REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY A 1/3 INCREASE IN THE TOTAL DAILY IMPORTS FROM CANADA AND IF THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, THE 840,000 COMES CLOSE TO THE 900,000 BARRELS A DAY WE IMPORT EVERY TAI FROM VENEZUELA. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT ANY POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT PRIVATE POLICY THAT -- ANY -- THAT PRIVATE COMPANIES WILL PAY FOR, THAT LETS US TELL VENEZUELA WE DON'T NEED THEM IS GOOD. WE'VE DEBATED FOR HOURS ON THE FLOOR THE HOUSE, WHAT WE'RE LEFT IS A WELL-VETTED, WORTH WHILE PROJECT READY TO STRART CONSTRUCTION. FOR THE JOBS AND ENERGY SECURITY, THE FOLKS I REPRESENT WANT US TO GET MOVING ON THIS. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE HIGHWAY BILL CONFERENCE CURRENTLY UNDER WAY. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT MY MOTION TO INSTRUCT SO WE CAN SEND THAT MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR TO THE CONFEREES. WITH THAT, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:29:20 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN.

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    MR. UPTON

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. UPTON

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

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    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS INSTRUCTION. WHATEVER YOUR VIEWS…

    MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS INSTRUCTION. WHATEVER YOUR VIEWS ARE ON THE PIPELINE, COMING OUT OF CANADA, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS ISSUE TO BE BROUGHT UP.

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  • 07:33:59 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    WHAT THIS PROVISION WOULD DO WOULD BE TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE DECISION MAKING…

    WHAT THIS PROVISION WOULD DO WOULD BE TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE DECISION MAKING AND MANDATE APPROVAL OF THE PIPELINE. IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE TRANSPORTATION BILL. WE SEE THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES LIKE TO TAKE BILLS AND THEN HOLD THEM HOSTAGE TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANTED TO GET THE PIPELINE APPROVED SO THEY MANDATED THE PRESIDENT HAD TO MAKE A DECISION WITHIN 60 DAYS IN A PREVIOUS BILL. THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T WANT IT, HE SAID, OK, I'LL SIGN IT. BUT THEN SAID HE'S NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION IN 60 DAYS. SO THIS PROVISION DOESN'T REQUIRE HIM TO MAKE A DECISION. IT TELLS HIM, THIS IS GOING TO BE DECIDED. THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE. THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO CALL EARMARKS AND IN FACT THIS IS AN EARMARK. A SPECIAL INTEREST EARMARK. NOW, HON ITS MERITS THIS LENL -- ON ITS MERITS THIS LEGISLATIVE EARMARK FOR TRANSCANADA MAKE NOES SENSE. MANDATING APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE MIGHT HELP JOBS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. IT MIGHT CREATE MORE JOBS IN CANADA, BUT WHEN THE REPUBLICANS TELL US IT'S GOING TO PRODUCE SO MANY JOBS IN THE UNITED STATES THEY'RE NOT BUYING A PIPELINE, THEY'RE BUYING A PIPE DREAM. A GREEN LIGHT FOR KEYSTONE WILL LEAD TO MASSIVE IMPORTS OF TRANSMISSION PIPE MANUFACTURED OVERSEAS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL BEAR ALL THE RISKS AND BIG OIL WILL REAP ALL THE REWARDS OF THIS PIPELINE. WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE CARBON POLLUTION, MORE DANGEROUS OIL SPILLS, LAND SEIZURES BY A FOREIGN COMPANY AND HIGHER OIL PRICES IN THE MIDWEST. BIG OIL GETS THE ABILITY TO EXTRACT MORE PROFITS FROM THE MIDWEST, A CONDUIT FOR EXPORTING TAR SANDS PRODUCTS TO CHINA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THIS OIL IS GOING TO GO. BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORT OF OIL FROM THESE TAR SANDS FROM CANADA TO THE UNITED STATES, GOING DOWN TO THE GULF, IT CAN THEN BE PUT ON STEAMERS AND SENT TO CHINA AND THERE'S NO RESTRICTION AGAINST IT. WE HAVE OPEN MARKETS AND CHINA WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO TAKE THAT OIL. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BENEFIT US. IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT CHINA. NOW, PRESIDENT OBAMA LISTENED TO THE DIFFERING VIEWS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS AND HE MADE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION. HE SAID HE WAS NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS PIPELINE THROUGH THE ECOLOGICALLY FRAGILE SAND HILLS AREA OF NEBRASKA, BUT THE STATE DEPARTMENT WOULD CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE AND NEBRASKA'S STILL LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ROUTE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE STATE. THE PRESIDENT IS MAKING SURE HE HAS THE INFORMATION HE NEEDS TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THIS PROVISION TAKES THE OPPOSITE APPROACH. IT GIVES THE PIPELINE AN UNPRECEDENTED LEGISLATIVE EARMARK. IT DOESN'T GIVE DISCRETION, IT REQUIRES THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE PIPELINE IMMEDIATELY, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROUTE IT WILL TAKE THROUGH NEBRASKA. I THINK WE OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE THESE TAR SANDS IN CANADA ARE VERY, VERY DIRTY AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF ENERGY TO GET THEM INTO AN OIL FORM THAT CAN BE TRANSPORTED THROUGH A PIPELINE. THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE TO ADD MORE CARBON EMISSIONS AT A TIME WHEN OUR PLANET IS ALREADY SUFFERING FROM GLOBAL WARMING AND EXTREME CLIMATE CHANGE. IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY RECKLESS FOR CONGRESS TO JEOPARDIZE THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION BILL BY PLAYING POLITICS OVER AN UNRELATED AND EXTRANEOUS PROVISION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS MOTION AND TO NOT PUT IN THIS POISON PILL PROVISION THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION BEING VETOED. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 07:38:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD TO MR. ALTMIRE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. ALTMIRE

    SPEAKER, CONSTRUCTION IN THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WOULD CREATE THOUSANDS…

    SPEAKER, CONSTRUCTION IN THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WOULD CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS FOR HARDWORKING AMERICANS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. CANADA'S ALREADY CONFIRMED ITS INTENTION TO BUILD THE PIPELINE, THE ONLY QUESTION NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT OUR NATION WILL BENEFIT FROM THE JOBS, ECONOMIC GROWTH AND ENERGY SECURITY THAT COMES WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINE. WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PASS US BY. THE PROJECT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN KEEPING WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND CONSTRUCTED WITH THE SAFEST AND MOST ADVANCED PIPELINE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE. WHAT'S MORE, THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF CANADA'S VAST OIL RESOURCES, THAT ARE THE SECOND LARGEST ON THE PLANET. THE TIME FOR DELAY HAS LONG SINCE PASSED. THE HOUSE LEGISLATION WOULD ADVANCE THE APPROVAL IN CONSTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINE PASSED BY THE HOUSE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A VIABLE, LONG-LASTING, SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY FOR THE FUTURE. CONSTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINE WOULD PROVIDE A STEADY SOURCE OF ENERGY FOR OUR COUNTRY, DECREASE OUR RELIANCE ON VOLATILE OIL MARKETS AND PROVIDE THE CERTAINTY THAT COMES WITH A STEADY JOB FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS. MR. SPEAKER, THE PIPELINE IS GOING TO BE BUILT. WHAT'S LEFT TO DECIDE IS WHETHER AMERICANS WILL BENEFIT FROM IT. I STRONGLY URGE THE CONFEREES ON THE SURFACE, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE IN THE FINAL BILL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE OUR NATION'S ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 07:39:55 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY.

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  • 07:40:18 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

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    MR. TERRY

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND, MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND, MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA'S MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES, TO SUPPORT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BILL. LET'S START WITH A QUICK TUTORIAL HERE. RIGHT HERE, ABOVE THE UNITED STATES BORDER IN CANADA, A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES NORTH OF OUR BORDER LIES THE SECOND OR THIRD LARGEST CURRENT RESERVE OF OIL. NOW, THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING PIPELINE COMING DOWN THROUGH THE BALKAN FIELDS, THEY'RE IN NORTH DAKOTA. THIS BLUE-DOTTED LINE IS THE NEW PIPELINE, THE ONE THAT'S OF CONTROVERSY NOW, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL LEFT, THE NRDC AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT OPPOSE THAT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT FOSSIL FUEL USE, ESPECIALLY A HEAVIER CRUDE. NOW, THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE DEBATE. THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEIR WHOLE GOAL HERE IS TO KILL THIS PIPELINE. NOW, WHAT DOES THIS PIPELINE DO FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? WELL, FIRST OF ALL WE HAVE THE SECOND OR THIRD LARGEST RESERVE HERE. THIS PIPELINE WILL BRING 800,000 BARRELS PER DAY. WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM TWO DIFFERENT GENTLEMEN THAT OUR COUNTRY IMPORTS ABOUT 10 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY. SO IF WE CAN BRING 800,000 TO A MILLION BARRELS PER DAY, THAT'S THAT MUCH LESS THAT HAS TO BE IMPORTED FROM A COUNTRY LIKE VENEZUELA, BY THE WAY WE IMPORT ABOUT 800,000 TO 900,000 PER DAY FROM VENEZUELA. MAYBE WE CAN STOP SENDING OUR DOLLARS TO VENEZUELA SO THEY CAN BUY MILITARY EQUIPMENT FROM EUROPE -- I'M SORRY, FROM RUSSIA TO DESTABILIZE SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA, WHICH IS WHAT THESE DOLLARS ARE DOING. SO IT PROVIDES US A LEVEL OF ENERGY SECURITY, OFFSETS IMPORTS INTO OUR COUNTRY FROM COUNTRIES WE DON'T LIKE. THE BONUS HERE IS JOBS. 10,000, 20,000 JOBS WILL BE CREATED DIRECTLY. AND WE HEAR STATEMENTS THAT IT WON'T CREATE JOBS, BUT I CAN TAKE YOU TO THE LABORERS FACILITY THAT HAS A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT IN HAND, I CAN TAKE YOU TO THE IBEW THAT HAS A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT IN HAND, I CAN TAKE YOU TO SEVERAL OTHER OF OUR UNIONS THAT HAVE AGREEMENTS READY TO GO, IF THEY WOULD START BUILDING THIS PIPELINE. NOW, I WANTED TO MENTION AND CLEAR UP SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE REGARDING THIS PIPELINE AND MY HOME STATE OF NEBRASKA. FIRST OF ALL, IN THE EFFORTS THAT WE TOOK TO GET THIS PIPELINE OUT OF THE POLITICS OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND INTO REASONABLE HANDS TO GET THIS APPROVED, WE EXEMPTED THE STATE OF NEBRASKA, GIVING THEM ENOUGH TIME TO FIND A NEW ROUTE. THE PRESIDENT IGNORED THAT PROVISION OF THE BILL AND STILL USED THE STATE OF NEBRASKA AS HIS EXCUSE TO KILL THE PIPELINE. WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT DENIED THEIR PERMIT, SAID NO TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE . WELL, AS WE STAND HERE TODAY, THIS PIPELINE HAS ALREADY BEEN REROUTED, A DIFFERENT ROUTE CHOSEN OFF OF THE SAND HILLS OF NEBRASKA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS OCCURRING AS WE SPEAK HERE TODAY AND IT WILL BE DONE IN A FEW MONTHS. THERE IS NO LONGER AN EXCUSE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO USE TO KILL THIS NEW PERMIT JUST RECENTLY FILED BY TRANSCANADA FOR THIS PIPELINE. SO, IN REVIEW, WE OFFSET THE OIL THAT WE IMPORT FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WE DON'T LIKE. 30 MORE SECONDS.

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  • 07:44:38 PM

    MR. WHITFIELD

    I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE.

  • 07:44:45 PM

    MR. TERRY

    JOBS BUILDING THIS PIPELINE AND WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA WHERE WE…

    JOBS BUILDING THIS PIPELINE AND WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA WHERE WE ACCESS THE SECOND OR THIRD LARGEST RESERVE. AND THE GENTLEMAN IS RIGHT. THERE'S A PIPELINE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING TO GO OFF WEST SO THE CHINESE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO PART OF THIS. WE NEED THIS OIL, LET'S COMPLIMENT OUR FRIENDS AND LET'S PASS THIS PIPELINE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:45:20 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 07:45:25 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    I YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN IMPORTANT…

    I YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, AN IMPORTANT MEMBER OF THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE. MR. DOYLE.

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  • 07:45:33 PM

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  • 07:45:36 PM

    MR. DOYLE

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT.…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. LIKE MR. BARROW AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, I SUPPORT BUILDING THIS PIPELINE OF -- PIPELINE IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE ENVIRONMENT AND CREATES GOOD AMERICAN JOBS BUT NOT IN THE MANNER THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT WOULD HAVE US DO. I HAVE COME TO THE FLOOR MANY TIMES TO TALK ABOUT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. MANY TIMES, MY CONCERN WAS THAT WE'RE NOT USING ENOUGH AMERICAN MADE STEEL IN THE PROJECT, THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE TOLD INITIALLY ABOUT THE STEELWORKER JOBS AND THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE CREATED JUST DIDN'T MATERIALIZE. BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT IS WHERE ONCE AGAIN -- IS WE'RE ONCE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT A 30-DAYTIMELINE FOR APPROVAL FROM AN AGENCY, THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL PIPELINE SITING AND PERMITTING. WE'RE TASKING THEM WITH THE WHOLESALE ELECTRICITY, WITH HE LIABILITY -- RELIABILITY, HYDROPOWER PERMITTING AND NATURAL GAS PIPELINE SITING. FERC DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR EXPERTISE TO SITE THIS PIPELINE AND IT'S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT THEM TO DO IT IN 30 DAYS AND IF FERC DOESN'T ISSUE A PERMIT IN 30 DAYS, IT DOESN'T MATTER THIS WOULD ALLOW THE PERMIT TO BE DEEMED AS ISSUE, TO BUILD THE PIPELINE EVEN IF FERC DOESN'T APPROVE A PERMIT WITHIN 30 DAYS. A 30-DAY ARBITRARY AND RUSHED APPROVAL FOR THIS PIPELINE IS NOT WORTH HOLDING UP OUR ENTIRE HIGHWAY BILL CONFERENCE. THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE WILL BE BUILT IN DUE TIME WITH APPROPRIATE PERMITTING. IT WILL CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS AND STRENGTHEN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBOR, CANADA. LET'S NOT HOLD UP THE HIGHWAY BILL CONFERENCE THAT CAN BRING EVEN MORE GOOD JOBS AND IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT OUR COUNTRY SO BADLY NEEDS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:47:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 07:47:54 PM

    MR. BARROW

    I YIELD SUCH TIME AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE GENTLEMAN, MR. MATHESON.

  • 07:48:03 PM

    MR. MATHESON

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING ME TIME. WE'VE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS…

    THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING ME TIME. WE'VE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS ALREADY ABOUT WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PIPELINE WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF INCREASED PRODUCT COLLING -- COMING FOR U.S. CONSUMPTION. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE JOBS FROM THE -- FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINE. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE NUMBERS AND STATISTICS. BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELP TO FEEL TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF ISSUES AND TRY TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE FACTS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT AND THIS TYPE OF PIPELINE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS A BRAND NEW PRODUCT. IN FACT, THERE ARE FIVE OTHER PIPELINES BRINGING THIS PRODUCT FROM CANADA TO THE UNITED STATES. FOR YEARS, IT'S BEEN COMING TO REFINERIES IN THE STATE OF UTAH WHERE I'M FROM AND REFINED IN REFINERIES IN NORTH SALT LAKE. THE MOST RECENT OF THE FIVE PIPELINES THAT BRINGS THIS PRODUCT FROM CANADA WAS APPROVED BY THE OPAW MA ADMINISTRATION IN 2009. IT BRINGS 800,000 BARRELS A DAY FROM CANADA INTO THE UNITED STATES AND WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S STATE DEPARTMENT, THE -- THE STATE DEPARTMENT SAID THAT THE PIPELINE WOULD, AND I QUOTE, SEND A POSITIVE ECONOMIC SIGNAL IN A DIFFICULT ECONOMIC PERIOD ABOUT THE FUTURE RELIABILITY AND AVAILABILITY OF A PORTION OF THE UNITED STATES ENERGY IMPORTS AND IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM, THIS SHOVEL-READY PROJECT WILL PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION JOBS FOR WORKERS IN THE UNITED STATES. NOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE KEYSTONE PROPOSAL, AS IT WAS GOING THROUGH THREE YEARS OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHEN DISCUSSING THIS PIPELINE, SECRETARY CLINTON'S COORDINATOR FOR INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AFFAIRS, DAVID GOLD WIN, STATED, AND I QUOTE, BALANCING JOBS AND ENERGY SECURITY, I THINK THE CASE FOR A PIPELINE IS OVERWHELMING AND SHE WILL APPROVE IT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S RECEIVED A LOT OF SCRUTINY. IT'S NOT A NEW TYPE OF PROJECT. FIVE OTHER ONES COME TO THIS COUNTRY. I KNOW THERE MAY BE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THIS PROPOSAL BUT IN GENERAL THERE ARE FIVE OTHER PROJECTS -- PIPELINES THAT BRING THIS PRODUCT TO THE UNITED STATES ALREADY. WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FACTS ARE ABOUT THIS PIPELINE. AS I SAID THIS PRODUCT IS ALREADY COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY MANY TIMES. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN -- I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR OFFERING THIS MOTION TO RECOMMIT. I URGE PASSAGE. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:50:27 PM

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  • 07:50:36 PM

    MR. UPTON

    TWO MINUTES TO MR. SCALISE, AN ADVOCATE FOR THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE.

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  • 07:50:47 PM

    MR. SCALISE

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S MOTION TO…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S MOTION TO INSTRUCT. THIS IS A STRONG, BIPARTISAN MOTION THAT HAS SUPPORT NOT ONLY IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS BUT ALSO HAS SUPPORT AMONGST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS THEY LOOK AT THIS PROPOSAL. KEYSTONE. OUR FRIEND IN CANADA. THEY HAVE VAST OIL RESERVES AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXTRACT THOSE RESERVES, WHETHER THEY'RE USED IN AMERICA OR IN CHINA. SO THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT CANADA IS GOING TO GO AND EXPLORE THEIR OIL SANDS, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE GET THE OIL FROM A FRIEND IN CANADA, A MILLION BARRELS A DAY WHEN IT'S IN OPERATION, OR WE CONTINUE TO BECOME MORE RELIANT ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL. OIL FROM COUNTRIES IN MANY CASES THAT USE THE MONEY WE SEND, THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A DAY WE SENT TO THEM AGAINST US, AGAINST OUR TROOPS. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MANY THINGS HERE. WE CAN HELP SECURE AMERICA'S ENERGY INDEPENDENCE BY SAYING THAT'S A MILLION BARRELS A DAY LESS THAN WE NEED, WE CAN GET FRIT A FRIEND IN CANADA. AND THEY WANT TO SEND IT TO US. AND IT'S GOING TO CREATE ABOUT 20,000 AMERICAN JOBS UP FRONT. THERE'S MUCH MORE TO COME, THE ESTIMATES ARE EVEN HIGHER LONG-TERM, ONCE THE PIPELINE IS IN OPERATION. YET THIS SHOULDN'T BE A DILEMMA. IT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL TO MOST PEOPLE. MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER IT A NO BRAINER. 20,000 JOBS. A MILLION BARRELS A DAY OF OIL FROM A FRIEND IN CANADA INSTEAD OF OTHER COUNTRIES. AND YET PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SAID NO. HE FWOSE AROUND GIVING SPEECHES SAYING HE'S FOR ALL-THE ABOVE. WE'VE HEARD IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, HE'S FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE. MAYBE HE'S FOR ALL UP ABOVE BUT NONE BELOW. IF YOU SAY NO TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE YOU'RE NOT FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE ENERGY. LOOK AT THE FACTS. WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING THAT CREATES GREAT JOBS. THIS TRANSPORTATION BILL IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR IT BECAUSE THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE GOT PIPELINE ALREADY RUNNING THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. EVEN IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT EVERY STATE HAS TO HAVE THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE GO THROUGH IT. IF THERE ARE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, EACH STATE STILL HAS TO PERMIT THE PIPELINE IF IT GOES THROUGH THEIR STATE. EACH STATE HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ROUTE FITS BEST WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT, THAT'LL HAPPEN ANYWAY, EVEN IF IT'S APPROVED. IF THE PRESIDENT REJECTS KEYSTONE, MAKE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, THE OIL WILL BE PRODUCED IN CANADA, BUT IT WILL BE SENT TO CHINA AND THE JOBS WILL BE SENT TO CHINA AND THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT, THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE PHONY STIMULUS BILLS WHERE THE PRINT A -- PRINT A BUNCH OF MONEY WE DON'T HAVE AND BORROW IT FROM CHINA. THIS IS PRIVATE RESOURCE, THEY WANT TO SPEND IT HERE IN AMERICA, CREATE THOSE JOBS HERE IN AMERICA AND ENSURE OUR AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE RIGHT HERE AT HOME AND THE PRESIDENT KEEPS SAYING NO. IT'S ON OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP IN A BIPARTISAN WAY AND SAY SOMETHING, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE UPON. JUST BECAUSE SOME RADICAL ENVIRONMENTALIST WENT AND HELD A RALLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO AND LITERALLY THREE DAYS LATER THE PRESIDENT SAID, WAIT, NOW I'M AGAINST KEYSTONE. IT'S TIME FOR US TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING. STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN JOBS, STAND UP FOR MILLIONS OF -- BILLIONS OF COLLARS IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND STAND UP FOR ENERGY SECURITY AND SAY YES TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE MOTION AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 07:54:12 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM KENTUCKY RESERVES --

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 07:54:18 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES…

    TO YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. MARKEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES SPROSM UP THE --

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  • 07:54:24 PM

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  • 07:54:29 PM

    MR. MARKEY

    THE TRANSPORTATION BILL SHOULD BE ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF RIDERS ON…

    THE TRANSPORTATION BILL SHOULD BE ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF RIDERS ON OUR MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM TO REDUCE OIL DEPENDENCE, TO -- IT SHOULD BE ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS IN H.O.V. LANES AND ENCOURAGING MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT VEHICLES. IT SHOULD NOT BE USED TO FORCE ACCEPTANCE OF THE KEYSTONE X.L. EXPORT PIPELINE. THAT'S WHAT IT IS, AN EXTRA LARGE, EXPORT PIPELINE. THE AMERICAN PETROLEUM ADS CLAIM IT WILL DELIVER OIL TO POWER OUR COUNTRY. SOUNDS GREAT BUT IN FACT THERE IS NO LEGISLATIVE GUARANTEE THAT EVEN A SINGLE DROP OF THIS OIL AND FUEL FROM THE KEYSTONE EXPORT PIPELINE WOULD STAY IN THE UNITED STATES FOR AMERICAN CONSUMERS. WHEN I ASKED IN THE HEARING THE PRESIDENT OF THE TRANSCANADA PIPELINE COMPANY WHETHER HE WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THE OIL THAT CAME FROM CANADA THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD STAY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, HE SAID NO. I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A GUARANTEE. SO LET US NOT HEAR AGAIN FROM THE REPUBLICANS ABOUT HOW THIS IS OIL FOR AMERICA. BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT OF THE PIPELINE WOULD NOT GIVE US A GUARANTEE THAT HE WOULD KEEP THE OIL HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THE PIPELINE IS GOING TO PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS. WHAT'S SO SPECIAL ABOUT PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS? IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT IT'S A TAX-FREE ZONE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THIS PIPELINE WITHOUT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS BECAUSE THEY JUST WANT TO APPROVE IT THEMSELVES, THE CONGRESS, AND YOU KNOW, A CONGRESSIONAL EXPERT IS AN OXY MORON, THERE IS NO SUCH THING COMPARED TO REAL ENVIRONMENTAL EXPORTS, REAL EXPERTS IN THIS AREA, A CONGRESSIONAL EXPERT IS LIKE JUMBO SHRIMP OR SALT LAKE CITY NIGHT LIFE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. THEY'RE SAY, LET'S JUST APPROVE THE PIPELINES, WE'RE EXPERT, WE'RE GOING TO SUPERSEDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND SEND TOYOTA PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, AND THEN IN PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS, IT'S GOING TO GET SENT. GUESS WHERE IT'S GOING TO GET SENT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DICK TRACEY TO FIGURE THIS OUT, IT'S GOING TON SENT TO CHINA, IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO LATIN AMERICA. IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO EUROPE, TAX FREE. YOU REPRESENT PORT ARTHUR TEXAS YOU REPRESENT ANY PART OF TEXAS, VOTE YES ON THIS RESOLUTION. BUT IF YOU COME FROM ANOTHER STATE, I'LL THROW IN LOUISIANA AND OKLAHOMA AS WELL. BUT IF YOU COME FROM ANOTHER STATE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. YOU DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT YOU DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THE OIL IS GOING TO STAY IN THE UNITED STATES. YOU'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE FABRICATIONS, THE MISREPRESENTATIONS THAT THIS IS OIL FOR AMERICA WHEN NO ONE WILL PUT IT IN THE BILL, THE OIL MUST STAY IN AMERICA. YOU WON'T HEAR THE PRESIDENT OF TRANSCANADA OR EXXONMOBIL OR CHEVRON SAYING, THE OIL WILL STAY IN AMERICA. LET ME KNOW WHEN THIS HAPPENS. WHY DO THEY WANT TO DO THAT? RIGHT NOW A BARREL OF OIL IN THE UNITED STATES IS $93 A BARREL AND A BARREL OF OIL IN EUROPE IS $115 A BARREL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FINANCE MAJOR TO FIGURE OUT THEY WANT TO SELL THE OIL IN THE WORLD MARKET. ALL WE ARE IS JUST A BIG CONDUIT FOR THAT DIRTIEST OIL IN THE WORLDCOMING OUT OF CANADA, COMING THROUGH THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS GOING TO PORT ARTHUR TEXAS, TAX-FREE ZONE, TO SEND IT SO EXXONMOBIL AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRIES CAN MAKE A FORTUNE ON THE GLOBAL MARKET. IS THAT CRAZY OR WHAT? WHY ARE WE DEBATING THIS RIGHT NOW? AND WHY ARE WE LISTENING TO THESE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE EXPORT? YOU KNOW SOMETHING ELSE WE EXPORT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? WE EXPORT OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OVER TO THE MIDEAST IN ORDER TO PROTECT OIL COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES. WE SHOULD NOT BE EXPORTING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AT THE EXPENSE OF DOMESTIC OIL WHICH WE COULD KEEP IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. THAT SHOULD NOT BE. NOT IF MORE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN HAVE TO BE SENT OVERSEAS TO PROTECT THE OIL LINES FROM THE MIDEAST. THAT'S OUR GREATEST VULNERABILITY. VOTE NO ON THIS RESOLUTION. THIS IS CAPSTONE OF THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY COMMITMENT TO THE OIL INDUSTRY. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE SINCE THEY TOOK OVER THE MAJORITY. BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT THIS IS JUST A ONE-WAY TRIP TO EXOTIC LOCATIONS IN CHINA, MOROCCO, SINGAPORE, THAT IS GOING TO COMPROMISE THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AN NOT PROTECT OUR SECURITY ONE WHIT. I'M WAITING FOR THE FIRST REPUBLICAN TO STAND UP TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO KEEP THE OIL IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHAP.

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  • 07:59:45 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM -- THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 07:59:50 PM

    MR. BARROW

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA. . A LOT OF…

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA. . A LOT OF NUMBERS AND FACTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN OUT AND I WILL NOT REPEAT THOSE AND I WILL COVER A COUPLE OF POINTS VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE HEARD THROUGH THE PAST YEARS AND EVEN DECADES, WE TALKED ABOUT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, BUT YET WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE IF WE JUST MAKE A FEW GOOD DECISIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THEM. IT'S TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LONG ENOUGH. IT'S TIME TO MOVE THIS PIPELINE FORWARD AND TO ALL OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE CAN RECEIVE IN JOBS AND ENERGY SECURITY, IT'S TIME. AND WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT SAY OR THE PETROLEUM PEOPLE AND OTHERS, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD SOMETHING, AN OPINION FOR THE AMERICAN WORKING FAMILIES. OUR FAMILIES ARE DESPERATE FOR ENERGY SECURITY, FOR THE PRICING STABILITY. THIS IS A STEP TOWARDS THAT. WE SHOULD NOT FORGET ALL OUR AMERICAN WORKING FAMILIES, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELPING THEM AS THEY STRUGGLE TO GET BY IN THIS TOUGH ECONOMY. THEY HAVE TO BE FRONT AND CENTER IN THIS DECISION. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE YES AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE BRINGING THIS MOTION FORWARD AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:01:33 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RISE?

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    TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TENNESSEE, MR. COHEN.

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  • 08:01:58 PM

    MR. COHEN

    I APPRECIATE THE TIME, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO…

    I APPRECIATE THE TIME, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE CONFEREES. I'M A MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BILL PASS AND I REPRESENT, MEMPHIS TENNESSEE, TRANSPORTATION JOBS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF MEMPHIS. IT HAS BEEN 958 DAYS, NINE EXTENSIONS, NEARLY THREE YEARS SINCE THE LAST SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BILL EXPIRED. THE KEYSTONE PROPONENT INSISTS THIS LANGUAGE BE IN THIS TRANSPORTATION BILL WHICH LANGUAGE SHOULD BE IN AN ENERGY BILL, NOT A TRANSPORTATION BILL, BUT BY DOING SO, THEY WILL END THE HOPES OF TRANSPORTATION WORKERS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, LET ALONE MEMPHIS, TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION RE-AUTHORIZATION BILL PASSED. WE WILL HAVE A TENTH BILL PASSED. THE SENATE HAS MADE A BILL WITH A KEYSTONE PIPELINE EXTENSION. THE SAME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT ALLOWED THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF THE XL TO GO THROUGH. HE IS NOT AGAINST PIPELINES OR OIL BUT AGAINST THIS ONE BECAUSE IT HAS PRESIDENT GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESSES AND HE WILL MAKE A DECISION PRO OR CON BUT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESSES AND DON'T NEED TO DEFEAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES BEFORE WE APPROVE A PIPELINE. THE PROPONENTS OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE ARE PAYING WHOMAGE TO THEIR SAINT, BIG OIL, WHAT BIG OIL WANTS, BIG OIL OFTEN GETS AND IT'S BIG OIL, NOT THE PEOPLE OF CANADA, OUR FRIENDS WITH THE HOCKEY PUCKS, OUR FRIENDS WHO HAVE A LONG TIME GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS NATION, IT'S BIG OIL THAT WILL MAKE THE PROFIT AND CONTROL THE OIL. AND BIG OIL WILL SELL IT WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST PROFIT. THERE IS A GREATER DEMAND IN THIS WORLD FOR OIL THAN EVER BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND INDIA AND CHINA AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GET CARS AND NEED GAS TO DRIVE THOSE CARS. BECAUSE OF THAT, THE PRICE OF OIL HAS GONE UP. WHILE THE MIDDLE CLASS OF AMERICA HAS SHRUNK, THE MIDDLE CLASS AROUND THE WORLD HAS GROWN AND THEY WANT THAT OIL AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SOLD. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS BUT TO OTHER PLACES BUT WILL BE SOLD ON THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET WHERE IT GETS THE BEST PRICE TO THE BIG OIL COMPANIES WHO ARE ALREADY GETTING TAX BREAKS AND THAT WON'T HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE NEED TO END OUR ADDICTION TO BIG OIL AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION. JAMES HANSON, A LEADING NASA SCIENTIST HAS CALLED THE PIPELINE THE FUSE TO THE BIGGEST CARBON BOMB ON THE PLANET. GAME OVER. GIVE UP. FUTURE GENERATIONS, FORGET THE FLORA AND FAUNA. BUT THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT THIS ISN'T RELEVANT AND PERT IN THE EVENT TO THIS BUILD. WE NEED A BILL THAT IMPROVES OUR HEY WAYS AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND GETS MORE PEOPLE INTO BUSES, FINDS ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF ENERGY, BIKE LANES AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET AROUND WITHOUT BURNING FOSSIL FOULS AND GET OUR TRANSPORTATION BILL PASSED AND PUT PEOPLE TO WORK. IT'S THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR THE ECONOMY IS TO PASS THE BILL. AND THE CONFEREES' SUGGESTION THAT THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE BE KEPT ALIVE KEEPS THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND KEEPS AMERICAN WORKERS UNEMPLOYED AND KEEPS COMMERCE STALLED. WE NEED TO NOT APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION. I ASK US TO VOTE NO.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RISE?

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  • 08:06:23 PM

    MR. BARROW

    I MAY CONSUME. SOME HAVE SAID THAT BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF A WORLD MARKET,…

    I MAY CONSUME. SOME HAVE SAID THAT BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF A WORLD MARKET, BECAUSE WE CONSUME MORE THAN WE PRODUCE OF THIS VITAL ECONOMY AND WE CANNOT LEGISLATE OURSELVES AN ISLAND IN THIS PROCESS AND SINCE WE BOTH PRODUCE AND CONSUME AND PRODUCE AND EXPORT, THAT THEREFORE IT FOLLOWS FROM THAT THAT ANYTHING ANY NEW SOURCE OF CONVENTIONAL ENERGY WE CAN GET IS A PASS-THROUGH TO SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN LOST TO US. WE PRODUCE IN THIS COUNTRY SOME 12 MILLION BARRELS A DAY. WE EXPORT SOME 2.9 TO 3 MILLION BARRELS A DAY, FOR A NET ANNUAL PRODUCTION ON A DETAIL BASIS OF 8.8. IT DOESN'T FOLLOW FROM THAT ANY NEW ENERGY, A STUDY COMMISSIONED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ADDRESSED THE DYNAMIC EFFECT OF LIMITING OUR ACCESS TO UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES TO THIS ENERGY IN CANADA AND ALLOWING THAT ENERGY TO GO SOMEPLACE. AND A STUDY POINTED OUT THE PERVERSE EFFECT, IF WE DENY OURSELVES, IT WILL GO TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND WHO WILL FILL THE GAP? MIDDLE EASTERN AND AFRICAN OPEC COUNTRIES WILL INCREASE THEIR SHIPMENT TO THIS COUNTRY AND BECOME MORE DEPENDENTON UPON IF WE DENY ACCESS TO THOSE FOLKS WE RELY UPON. THEY WOULD DISPLACE, THE CANADIAN OIL CREWS WOULD BE LOST TO THE U.S. MARKET AND GO TO ASIA. THEY WOULD DISPLACE THE CRUDES, WHICH WOULD IN TURN MOVE TO THE U.S.A. THE NET EFFECT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER U.S. DEPENDENCE ON CRUDE OIL FROM THOSE SOURCES, THE SOURCES WE WANT TO GET OFF OF. FINALLY, ALONG THIS LINE, IT HAS BEEN SAID WE ARE DESCRIBING CONDITIONS IN ORDINARY TERMS, WE NEED TO REMEMBER, WE NEED TO BEAR IN MIND, THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE WORLD MARKET WILL FAIL US. I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE EMBARGOED, FIRST IN 1973, BECAUSE WE CAME TO THE AID OF OUR ALLY ISRAEL IN RESPONSE TO THE YOM KIPPUR WAR. WE WERE EMBARGOED. AT THAT TIME, THEY CUT US OFF COMPLETELY. IT HAPPENED BEFORE. IT DID HAPPEN AGAIN IN 1979. WE WERE EMBARGOED A SECOND TIME. WE NEED TO BEAR IN MIND WHILE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MARKET CONDITIONS AND EBB AND FLOW, WE HAVE TO GIRD OURSELVES FOR THE POSSIBILITY WE COULD BE EMBARGOED BY OUR CURRENT VENDORS. AND AGAINST THAT BACKDROP ACCESS TO OIL COULD HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON NATIONAL SECURITY THAN THE CONDITIONS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF EVENTS. WITH THAT, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:09:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RISE?

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  • 08:09:42 PM

    MR. WHITFIELD

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    MR. WAXMAN

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA 8 1/2 MINUTES AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY, EIGHT MINUTES.

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  • 08:10:01 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    BEFORE I RECOGNIZE AND YIELD TO MR. RUSH FROM ILLINOIS, I JUST WANT TO…

    BEFORE I RECOGNIZE AND YIELD TO MR. RUSH FROM ILLINOIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT WE NEED TO GET OURSELVES OFF DEPENDENCE ON OIL, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE UNITED STATES OR OVERSEAS. AND IF WE GO ALONG WITH THIS PIPELINE, WE ARE INCREASING OUR DEPENDENCE ON A VERY, VERY DIRTY OIL THAT IS GOING TO USE UP A LOT OF CARBON, JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN A STATE WHERE IT CAN BE SENT DOWN THAT PIPELINE. I'M PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER AND HOPEFULLY NEXT CHAIRMAN OF THE ENERGY SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. RUSH, FROM ILLINOIS, FOR THREE MINUTES.

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  • 08:10:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 08:10:50 PM

    MR. RUSH

    THANK THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR RECOGNIZING ME. MR.…

    THANK THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR RECOGNIZING ME. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. A MANDATORY APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE DOES NOT BELONG IN OUR TRANSPORTATION BILL. THIS PROVISION JEOPARDIZES THE ENTIRE TRANSPORTATION BILL AND ALL OF THE AMERICAN JOBS THAT THE TRANSPORTATION BILL WILL PROVIDE AND PRODUCE. MR. SPEAKER, THE PORTION OF THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE FROM OKLAHOMA TO THE GULF IS ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PRESIDENT'S SUPPORT. BUT THE NORTHERN PORTION DOES NOT YET HAVE A FINAL ROUTE THROUGH THE STATE OF NEBRASKA. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE WILL NOT SHORT-CIRCUIT THE NORMAL APPROVAL PROCESS AND DEPRIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY, THEIR RIGHT FOR INPUT JUST TO BENEFIT A FOREIGN COMPANY AND FOREIGN INTERESTS. AND AS IT STANDS NOW, IT IS VERY UNCLEAR IF THIS PROJECT WOULD BENEFIT THE HARD-PRESSED COMMUNITIES OF THIS NATION, SUCH AS THE ONE THAT I REPRESENT, WITH JOBS AND CONTRACTS AND OTHER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT, THAT HAVE BEEN BAND YEED ABOUT ABOUT THIS PIPELINE. WE DESPERATELY NEED JOBS, CONTRACTS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. BUT WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS XL PIPELINE WILL PRODUCE THE SAME. SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THIS PIPELINE SHOULD BE BUILT OR NOT, INCLUDING THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE APPROVAL, MANDATORY APPROVAL, I MIGHT ADD, IN THE TRANSPORTATION BILL, WHICH THE PRESIDENT HAS ALREADY PROMISED HE WILL VETO, MAY NOT NECESSARILY FURTHER THE PIPELINE BUT MAY DOOM THE SAME, DOOM THE ENTIRE TRANSPORTATION BILL. IF YOU CARE ABOUT JOBS, AMERICAN JOBS, THEN THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY SHOULD BE PASSING THE TRANSPORTATION BILL ALL BY ITSELF. PASS THE TRANSPORTATION BILL TO CREATE AND PRESERVE AMERICAN JOBS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT VOTING THE JOB-PRODUCING TRANSPORTATION BILL WITH EXTRANEOUS GIMMICKS AND EXTRANEOUS GESTURES. PASSAGE ON THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT WILL BE A STUMBLING STONE FOR KEYSTONE.

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  • 08:14:08 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM KENTUCKY RISE?

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  • 08:14:16 PM

    MR. WHITFIELD

    WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE?

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

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    MR. WHITFIELD

    WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR INTRODUCING THIS RESOLUTION,…

    WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR INTRODUCING THIS RESOLUTION, MOTION TO INSTRUCT. I THINK IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND I WILL HAVE TO SAY HAVING SAT ON MANY HEARINGS ON THIS SUBJECT, I'M REALLY PUZZLED HOW PEOPLE CAN BE OPPOSED TO THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME UP TODAY WHO HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO IT AND TALKED ABOUT THE NECESSITY FOR JOBS. THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE WILL CREATE MANY JOBS. AS A MATTER OF FACT AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE KNOW THAT OIL FROM THE OIL SANDS IN CANADA IS ALREADY COMING TO AMERICA. THERE'S OVER 1,000 AMERICAN COMPANIES TODAY SUPPLYING GOODS AND SERVICES TO CANADIAN OIL SANDS AND PIPELINE COMPANIES. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, CATERPILLAR, WHICH MAKES THE 797, THE WORLD'S LARGEST TRUCK, THE ENGINES ARE MADE IN INDIANA, THE CAB IS FABRICATED AND INSTALLED IN ILLINOIS, THE FRAME COMPONENT IS CAST IN LOUISIANA AND THE MISH LYNN TIRES ARE MADE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT'S JUST -- AND THE MITCH LYNN TIRES ARE MADE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT'S JUST ONE. I COULD LIST A MULTITUDE OF COMPANIES BECAUSE JO -- THAT JOBS ARE BEING CREATED BECAUSE OF THE OIL SANDS AND ONLY MORE WILL BE CREATED BECAUSE IF WE CAN BUILD A NEW PIPELINE. PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU'RE GOING TO EXPORT ALL THIS OIL. WELL, I GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT IS A RED HERRING. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ITSELF DID AN ANALYSIS OF THIS AND SAID IF ANY OIL WAS EXPORTED COMING OUT OF CANADA, IT WOULD BE VERY MINUTE AMOUNT. AND YES WE DO EXPORT SOME PETROLEUM PRODUCTS NOW. BUT NO ONE CAN HONESTLY SAY AND NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD THAT WE INTEND TO EXPORT THE MAJORITY PART OF THIS OIL, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT. I THINK THAT IS A RED HERRING. I MIGHT ALSO SAY THAT THERE WAS A MORATORIUM ON THE TRANSATLANTIC PIPELINE IN CANADA FROM EXPORTING OIL AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENED, OIL PRODUCTION IN AMERICA WENT DOWN. BECAUSE COMPANIES DECIDED, WELL, THE PRICES ARE DOWN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPORT ANY, SO PRESIDENT CLINTON LISTED THAT -- LIFTED THAT MORATORIUM. SO I THINK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS MAKING THIS ARGUMENT, OH, WE'VE GOT TO PREVENT EXPORT, IS A RED HERRING. NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PIPELINES ALREADY IN AMERICA. ON THE AVERAGE, THEY'VE BEEN STUDIED FOR 18 MONTHS BEFORE THEY WERE APPROVED. THIS PIPELINE HAS BEEN STUDIED FOR 40 MONTHS. AND I MIGHT ALSO SAY THAT THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIAL SAFETY ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT TOGETHER 57 ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES FOR THIS PIPELINE WHICH ARE NOT ON OTHER PIPELINES. SO THIS WOULD BE THE SAFEST PIPELINE BUILT IN AMERICA. AND SO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY HERE, IF THE PRESIDENT WOULD SIMPLY APPROVE IT, OF BUILDING A PIPELINE THAT WILL BRING 830,000 MORE BARRELS OF OIL A DAY TO AMERICA. I STILL BELIEVE IN SUPPLY AND DEMAND. IF SUPPLY GOES UP, PRICES GO DOWN. AND I THINK THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT PRESIDENT OPAW MA RECEIVED -- OBAMA RECEIVED A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT SAID BETWEEN THE OPTION OF BUILDING THIS PIPELINE AND NOT BUILDING THIS PIPELINE, THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO BUILD THE PIPELINE. THAT'S WHY WE ALL WERE SO SHOCKED, BECAUSE AFTER THAT, WE THOUGHT THE PRESIDENT WOULD APPROVE THIS PIPELINE. BUT WHAT DID HE SAY? I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION UNTIL AFTER THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH BUT I'M ASSUMING HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS. AND THAT'S -- THAT'S FINE. BUT TO DEPRIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF APPROXIMATELY 20,000 NEW JOBS DIRECTLY IN BUILDING THE PIPELINE, ADDITIONAL JOBS THAT, LIKE CATERPILLAR THAT WOULD BE SELL MANAGER PRODUCTS TO THE CANADIAN COMPANIES WHERE THE OIL SANDS ARE BEING PRODUCED, WHERE THE OIL IS BEING PRODUCED IN THE OIL SANDS, MAKES NO SENSE. THIS IS A SAFE PIPELINE, 1,700 MILES LONG, ONLY 60 MILES OF THIS PIPELINE ROUTE WAS SUGGESTED TO BE CHANGED AND THAT WAS IN NEBRASKA AND THE GOVERNOR OF NEBRASKA AND THE -- AND THE LEGISLATURE OF NEBRASKA AGREED WITH THE CHANGE. SO THEY'VE BASICALLY SIGNED OFF ON THIS. SO I AM PUZZLED BY WHY ANYBODY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO IT. MORE OIL, MORE JOBS, LESS DEPENDENCE ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL, YEAH, WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE LESS DEPENDENT ON OIL BUT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ELECTRIC CARS IN AMERICA TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TRANSPORTATION THAT WE NEED, DESPITE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA'S STIMULUS FUND IN THE PRODUCTION OF IT. SO THE REALITY IS, WE NEED OIL, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT HERE TO CREATE JOBS, AND I THINK THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS TO BE CONSIDERED IS IN THE TRANSPORTATION BILL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTING OIL FOR AMERICA TO BE LESS DEPENDENT ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL AND I WOULD URGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S MOTION, MR. BARROW'S MOTION FROM GEORGIA, I WOULD URGE EVERYONE TO VOTE IN FARE OF IT. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:20:54 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 08:20:58 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MIGHT CONSUME ON THE DEBATE ON THIS PARTICULAR…

    MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MIGHT CONSUME ON THE DEBATE ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.

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  • 08:21:03 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:21:09 PM

    MR. WAXMAN

    US SPEAKING ON THIS MOTION ARE FROM THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, NOT…

    US SPEAKING ON THIS MOTION ARE FROM THE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE, NOT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT DEVELOPED THE FUNDAMENTAL UNDERLYING BILL TO WHICH THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN ATTACHED. THE TRANSPORTATION BILL PROVIDES ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE JOBS BUILDING THE ROADS, MASS TRANSIT, OTHER KINDS OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, AND THAT ALL WILL BE STOPPED IF WE DON'T RENEW THE TRANSPORTATION BILL ITSELF. THE SENATE ON AN OVERWHELMING BIPARTISAN BASIS GOT TOGETHER AND PASSED A TRANSPORTATION BILL. THE HOUSE WASN'T ABLE TO DO THAT. WE WERE PASSING SHORT-TERM EXTENSIONS OF EXISTING LAW UNTIL WE PASSED SOMETHING TO GO INTO CONFERENCE. AND WE'RE NOW IN CONFERENCE. SO THE MOTION IS TO INSTRUCT THE CONFEREES TO TAKE THE HOUSE POSITION ON THIS PIPELINE ISSUE. WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS, THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID HE'LL VETO THE BILL. HE'LL VETO THE TRANSPORTATION BILL IF THE PIPELINE PROVISION IS IN IT. HE SAID IT BECAUSE HE FEELS IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE ON WHETHER TO ALLOW THIS PIPELINE TO BE BUILT. I DON'T CONSIDER THAT UNREASONABLE. BUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE IS REPUBLICANS WANT TO STICK IT TO THE PRESIDENT. THIS IS ALL POLITICS. THEY WANT TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT HAVE TO VETO THE BILL. AND THEN THEY'LL SAY, HE VETOED THE BILL. HOW OUTRAGEOUS IT IS! LET'S NOT PLAY POLITICS, LET'S REJECT THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT.

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  • 08:22:47 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN -- FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RISE?

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  • 08:22:57 PM

    MR. BARROW

    THE REMAINING TIME.

  • 08:23:02 PM

    MR. BARROW

    I YIELD MYSELF THE BLAPS OF ME TIME. I ENCOURAGE CONFEREES TO APPROVE THE…

    I YIELD MYSELF THE BLAPS OF ME TIME. I ENCOURAGE CONFEREES TO APPROVE THE KEYSTONE X.L. PIPELINE. IT WILL GET AMERICANS BACK TO WORK AND ALLOW US TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY ON COUNTRIES THAT DON'T SHARE OUR VALUES. I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED TO ANY NEW AND UNCONVENTIONAL SOURCES OF TRADITIONAL ENERGY WE RELY ON. THE ARGUMENT IS, MORE OF THE SAME MEANS WE'LL INCREASE OUR DEPENDENCE ON A DIRTY SOURCE OF ENERGY, IT'LL INCREASE OUR DEPENDENCE ON OIL. YOU CAN'T INCREASE YOUR DEPENDENCE BEYOND 100 PK. WE ARE 100% DEPENDENT ON OIL AND ITS BYPRODUCTS. UNLIKE THE ENERGY WE GET OFF THE WALL -- THROUGH THE WALLS OR OFF THE GRID, A LOT OF SOURCES GO INTO THAT, SOME OF IT IS GAS, COAL, SOME OF IT IS NUCLEAR, SOME OF IT IS WIND AND SOLAR. WE HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY FEED STOCKS INTO THE WIRES AND WE UTILIZE IN EVERY OTHER WAY BUT THE TRANSPORTATION ENERGY WE WRUSE TO PUSH ALL OUR TRUCKS, ALL OUR CARS AND ALL OUR TRACTOR, IT ALL COMES FROM OIL. WE'VE GOT ALL OUR TRANSPORTATION EGGS IN ONE ENERGY BASKET. YOU CAN'T INCREASE YOUR DEPENDENCE ANY MORE THAN 100%. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE. I THINK SECRETARY CLINTON SUMMED IT UP CONCLUSIVELY JUST A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO AGO BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2010 AT A CONFERENCE, SECRETARY OF STATE CLINTON WAS QUOTED AS SAYING, QUOTE, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON DIRTY OIL FROM THE PERSIAN GULF OR DIRTY OIL FROM CANADA. UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR ACT TOGETHER AS A COUNTRY AND FIGURE OUT THAT CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY IS IN BOTH OUR ECONOMIC INTERESTS AND THE INTERESTS OF OUR PLANET. UNTIL WE DO THAT, YEAR GOING TO BE GETTING OUR OIL FROM ONE SOURCE. FOR ME, BETWEEN THE PERSIAN GULF ON ONE HAND AND CANADA ON THE OTHER, I CHOOSE CANADA. MEANWHILE, I AM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ALTERNATIVE, CLEAN SOURCES OF ENERGY. I WANT TO WEAN US OFF THE USE OF FOREIGN OIL AS MUCH AS ANYONE IN THIS BUILDING. BUT WE AREN'T THERE YET. WE'RE NOT THERE NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. FOR AS LONG AS OIL IS OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF TRANSPORTATION ENERGY IN THIS COUNTRY, WE CAN'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND WE CAN'T PRETEND THAT MAKING IT MORE SCARCE OR MAKING IT MORE EXPENSIVE IS GOING TO HASTEN OUR RELIANCE UPON IT -- HASTEN THE DAY WE'RE NO LONGER RELYING UPON IT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE IT. MR. SPEAKER, THE FOLKS THAT I REPRESENT EXPECT US TO VOLT FOR JOBS AND FOR ENERGY SECURITY. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WITH THE TRANSPORTATION BILL. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE MOTION TO INSTRUCT AND SEND THAT MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR TO OUR CONFEREES. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:26:07 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THE PREVIOUS…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION IS ADOPTED.

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  • 08:26:23 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN ASKS FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS?

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. THOSE FAVORING A VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING RISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED PURSUANT TO CLAUSELE OF RULE 20, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THIS QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED.

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  • 08:27:24 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RISE?

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    A MOTION TO INSTRUCT ON H.R. 4348.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE MOTION.

  • 08:27:33 PM

    THE CLERK

    TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES ON H.R. 4348 OFFERED BY MR. RAHALL OF WEST VIRGINIA,…

    TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES ON H.R. 4348 OFFERED BY MR. RAHALL OF WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL OF WEST VIRGINIA MOVES THAT THE MANAGERS ON THE PART OF THE HOUSE AT THE CONFERENCE ON THE DISAGREEING VOTES OF THE TWO HOUSES ON THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO THE BILL H.R. 4 48 BE INSTRUCTED TO AGREE TO SECTIONS 1528, 2001 TO THE EXTENT THAT SUCH SECTIONS AMEND SECTION 5323 OF TITLE 49 UNITED STATES CODE TO PROVIDE SUBSECTION K RELATING TO BUY AMERICA. 33007. 33008. AND 35210 OF THE SENATE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:28:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 7 OF RULE 22, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 7 OF RULE 22, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, MR. RAHALL, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. HANNA, EACH WILL CONTROL 30 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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  • 08:28:24 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 08:28:28 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:28:30 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    MY MOTION IS SIMPLE. IT INSTRUCTS CONFEREES TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO…

    MY MOTION IS SIMPLE. IT INSTRUCTS CONFEREES TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE AMERICAN JOBS AND TO REVIVE AMERICAN MANUFACTURING BY CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN BUY AMERICAN LAWS. THE HOUSE SENATE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE IS SEEKING TO RESOLVE DIFFERENCES ON THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION RE-AUTHORIZATION BILL. BUT ONE THING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE ON THOUSAND, RIGHT NOW, IS THAT EVERY TAXPAYER DOLLAR SPENT CONSTRUCTING HIGHWAY TRANSIT -- HIGHWAY, TRANSIT, AND RAIL PROJECTS SHOULD HELP CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA AND NOT OVERSEAS. AMERICAN WORKERS ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO FIND WORK AS OUR ECONOMY SLOWLY RECOVERS FROM THE WORST ECONOMIC RECESSION SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. THE CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING SECTORS HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY HARD HIT. MORE THAN 56,000 U.S. FACTORIES HAVE CLOSED OR MOVED OVERSEAS IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. 90,000 MORE MANUFACTURING FIRMS, MOST OF WHICH ARE SMALL BUSINESSES, ARE AT RISK OF GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. TODAY, MORE THAN 2.2 MILLION CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING WORKERS REMAIN OUT OF WORK. I HAVE PLEADED AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT WE MUST ENACT A WELL FUNDED, LONG-TERM SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BILL IMMEDIATELY AND NOT LET ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION SEASON DWINDLE WHILE CONGRESS DAWDLES. WE MUST FIND COMMON GROUND AND WE MUST FIND IT FAST. AS PART OF THAT EFFORT, ONE AREA WHERE I HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE IS ENSURING THE INVESTMENTS WE MAKE WITH THIS BILL WILL BE SPENT ON PROJECTS THAT ARE STAMPED MADE IN AMERICA. WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY, THE CAPACITY AND THE WORKERS READY TO GET THE JOB DONE HERE AT HOME. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE CURRENTLY GIVING THESE CONTRACTS AND THESE HIGH-SKILLED JOBS AWAY TO FOREIGN MANUFACTURES AND WORKERS. THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT DIRECTS HOUSE CONFEREES TO ADOPT SEVERAL BIPARTISAN SENATE PROVISIONS TO STRENGTHEN THE BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS. THE OTHER BODY ADOPTED THESE NONCONTROVERSIAL, COMMON SENSE, BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS BY VOICE VOTE AND WITHOUT A WORD OF OPPOSITION. . FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT CLOSES EXISTING LOOPHOLES THAT ALLOW RAIL AND HEY WAY CONTRACTS TO BE DIVIDED. THE MOST GLARING RECENT EXAMPLE, THE PROJECT SEGMENTATION IS CALIFORNIA'S BAY BRIDGE PROJECT CONNECTING OAKLAND TO SAN FRANCISCO. EVEN THOUGH MORE THAN $320 MILLION OF AID WERE SPENT ON THE BAY BRIDGE PROJECT, THE PROJECT WAS DIVIDED INTO 20 SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. AS A RESULT 43,000 TONS OF STEEL FOR THE PROJECT WERE MANUFACTURED IN CHINA. A CHINESE-STATE-OWNED COMPANY THAT HAD NO PRIOR BRIDGE-BUILDING EXPERIENCE, NO PRIOR BRIDGE-BUILDING EXPERIENCE EMPLOYED 3,000 WORKERS, WELDERS, POLISHERS AND ENGINEERS. THESE WORKERS COULD BE AMERICAN WORKERS. WITH OUR ENGINEERS DESIGNING THE BRIDGE AND OUR WORKERS GIRARDING THE STEEL MANUFACTURED HERE AT HOME AND GUARANTEED TO BE MUCH SAFER. THE SENATE-BYE -- BUY AMERICAN, THE THEY WILL KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE THEY GANT THE WAIVERS. THIS PROCESS WILL ENABLE THE COMPANIES TO ASSESS WHERE THEY HAVE AN AMERICAN-MADE PROJECT USED IN PROJECT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ALL ABOUT, ENSURING AMERICAN WORKERS AND COMPANIES GET A FAIR SHOT. LAST YEAR, I INTRODUCED BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION, H.R. 3533, THE INVEST IN AMERICA JOBS ACT OF 2011 TO STRENGTHEN BUY AMERICA. THEY INCORPORATE MANY MAJOR PROVISIONS FROM THIS LEGISLATION. ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE WE CAN DO MORE TO STRENGTHEN BUY AMERICA PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF THIS LEGISLATION, THIS REPRESENTS A GOOD START. WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR FRIENDS FROM ACROSS THE AISLE THAT WE SHOULD LET THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE WORK ITS WILL, BUT LET'S BE HONEST, A VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION IS A VOTE TO CONTINUE TO SEND JOBS OVERSEAS AND CONTINUE TO WEAKEN OUR ECONOMY AND ALLOW OUR FOREIGN COMPETITORS TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF REBUILDING OUR NATION WITH AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS. MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO U.S. TAXPAYERS TO ENSURE THAT INVESTMENTS WE MAKE IN OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE TRULY HELP REBUILD AMERICA, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR COMPANIES AND OUR PEOPLE. I URGE ADOPTION OF THIS MOTION AND I RESERVE.

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  • 08:33:46 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RISE?

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  • 08:33:51 PM

    MR. HANNA

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:34:00 PM

    MR. HANNA

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS MOTION OFFERED BY MY FRIEND, THE GENTLEMAN…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS MOTION OFFERED BY MY FRIEND, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, STRUCTS CONFEREES TO THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION REAUTHORIZATION CONFERENCE. THE SENATE PROVISIONS WILL REQUIRE STATE FOR THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY PROGRAM, THE FEDERAL TRANSIT PROGRAM AND FOR AMTRAK. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A NONBINDING PROCEDURAL VOTE. A VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THIS MOTION DOES NOT IMPACT THE OUTCOME OF THE CONFERENCE NEGOTIATIONS. HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TIME SPENT PREPARING AND DEBATING THIS MOTION WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SPENT AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME -- I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:34:54 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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  • 08:35:02 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    I'M HONORED TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO A VERY VALUED MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE,…

    I'M HONORED TO YIELD TWO MINUTES TO A VERY VALUED MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR. BISHOP.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

  • 08:35:13 PM

    MR. BISHOP

    I THANK RANKING MEMBER RAHALL FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND THE…

    I THANK RANKING MEMBER RAHALL FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND THE LEADERSHIP ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. I SUPPORT THIS COMMONSENSE MOTION TO PREVENT OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS. THE U.S. IS RECOVERING FROM THE WORST RECESSION SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. IN THE PAST DECADE, MORE THAN 56,000 U.S. FACTORIES HAVE CLOSED OR MOVED OVERSEAS AND AN ADDITIONAL 90,000 MANUFACTURING FIRMS ARE AT RISK OF GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, MORE THAN 2.2 MILLION CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING WORKERS REMAIN OUT OF WORK. THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT COVER FERRIES TO ADDRESS IMPORTANT LOOPHOLES IN BUY AMERICA LAWS IN ORDER TO CREATE MORE AMERICAN JOBS. AMENDMENTS WILL HELP ENSURE THAT ALL STEEL, IRON AND MANUFACTURED GOODS USED TO CONSTRUCT HIGHWAY, TRANSIT AND RAIL PROJECTS ARE PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES. BY CLOSING LOOPHOLES, THEY WILL MAKE CERTAIN THAT PROJECTS WILL BE MADE IN AMERICA WITH JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT OUTSOURCED OVERSEAS. THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT DIRECTS CONFEREES TO ADOPT SEVERAL SENATE PROVISIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT PROJECTS SEGMENTATION ON CERTAIN PROJECTS, REQUIRE REVIEW OF LANGUAGE STANDING WAIVERS AND REQUIRE AN ANNUAL REPORT ON WAIVERS. I THINK THAT REASONABLE PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THIS ISN'T TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE PAID FOR BY U.S. TAXPAYER DOLLARS. FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS SHOULDN'T BE USED TO JOIT SOURCE AMERICAN JOBS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I URGE APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES AND I YIELD BACK. THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE: THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 08:37:09 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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    MR. HANNA

    I WISH TO YIELD AS MUCH TIME AS HE MAY CONSUME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS,

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:37:28 PM

    MR. BRADY

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. THE MOTION…

    MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. THE MOTION TO INSTRUCT WOULD ADD TO ALREADY STRING EPT BUY-AMERICA PROVISIONS IN AMERICAN LAW THAT APPLY TO AMTRAK AND INNER CITY RAIL PROJECTS MAKING THEM UNWORKABLE IN OUR INCREASINGLY GLOBAL ECONOMY. I KNOW THIS IS WELL INTENTIONED, BUT TOO OFTEN IN WASHINGTON WHAT SOME HOPE A BILL WILL DO DOES JUST THE OPPOSITE. I KNOW MANY MEMBERS THINK THEY SHOULD BE IN SUPPORT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I CAN CERTAINLY SEE JUSTIFICATION FOR SOME BUY AMERICA PROVISIONS AND WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN LAW TODAY. THESE ARE LONG-STANDING RULES THAT ARE MANAGEABLE FOR OUR AMERICAN JOB CREATORS AND ALIGNED WITH OUR INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS. BUY AMERICA DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEAN WHAT IT APPEARS TO MEAN. THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT, UNDERMINING AMERICA'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS AMERICA'S COMPETITIVENESS AND JOB GROWTH. INSTEAD OF PROVIDING SURE-FIRED MARKETS FOR OUR LOCAL COMPANIES FOR GOODS AND SERVICES, THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT WOULD ACTUALLY BACKFIRE. THE RESULT WILL RAISE COSTS FOR AMERICAN TAXPAYERS, DELAY AMERICAN PROJECTS, BURDEN AMERICAN BUSINESSES THAT INSTEAD CAN BE FOCUSED ON CREATING JOBS AND CONFLICTS WITH OUR GOAL WITH MAKING THE UNITED STATES MOST COMPETITIVE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. I ALSO WANT TO INSERT INTO THE RECORD TWO LETTERS, ONE FROM THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS REPRESENTING THREE MILLION BUSINESSES IN AMERICA AND ANOTHER FROM THE EMERGENCY COMMITTEE FOR AMERICAN TRADE, LOCAL COMPANIES THAT EMPLOY OVER SIX MILLION WORKERS, BOTH OPPOSING THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. LET'S EXPLORE THE REASONS WHY I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS MOTION. FIRST, IT WILL INCREASE COSTS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS BY REQUIRING LOCAL CONTENT REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO MORE PROJECTS BY MAKING WAIVERS FROM THESE LOCAL REQUIREMENTS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. THAT MEANS FEWER PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS CAN BE UNDERTAKEN TO FIX OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO IMPEDE STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN AMERICAN INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH HOLDS THE KEY TO U.S. ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS AND PROSPERITY. SECOND, A MISPLACED REQUIREMENT TO BUY LOCAL WOULD HURT AMERICAN COMPANIES, UNDERMINE THEIR COMPETITIVENESS, HAMPER THEIR INNOVATION AND PRODUCTIVITY AND PREVENT THEM FROM PARTICIPATING IN BIDDING IN TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS DUE TO THEIR INCREASINGLY GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAINS. MANY PRODUCTS THAT ARE AMERICAN COMPANIES BUILD WILL SOMETIMES HAVE PARTS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD SO THEY CAN COMPETE AGAINST OTHER PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, A STORY FROM BACK HOME IN TEXAS, WHERE A CANADIAN MANUFACTURER OF P.V.C. PIPES WAS ADVISED BY ITS DISTRIBUTOR IN CALIFORNIA THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAD USED ITS FITTINGS IN SEWAGE PIPES AND BEING ASKED TO REMOVE THE FITTINGS FROM THE GROUND AND REPLACE THEM FROM A SIMILAR PRODUCT FROM AN AMERICAN COMPETITOR. THE CANADIAN MANUFACTURER PURCHASED MOST OF ITS PLASTIC RESINS, THE INPUTS TO MAKE THOSE FITTINGS FROM TEXAS-BASED COMPANIES, FROM AMERICAN COMPANIES IN TEXAS. THAT MEANT THAT BUY-AMERICAN RESTRICTIONS PREVENTED OUR LOCAL COMPANY FROM BEING ABLE TO EXPORT THEIR PRODUCT TO CANADA AND SELL IT AS PART OF AN OVERALL PROJECT IN CALIFORNIA. IT WAS A LOSE-LOSE SITUATION IN UNITED STATES. IT MAKES IT HARDER BECAUSE THE REALITY OF OUR PRODUCTS ARE BUILT THESE DAYS. THESE PROVISIONS WILL PREVENT AMERICAN COMPANIES FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL INPUTS, THEIR PRODUCTS, TO FOREIGN COMPANIES WHO THEN GO AFTER GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. MAY SOUND ATTRACTIVE TO CUT FOREIGN COMPANIES OUT OF THE PROCUREMENT MARKET, BUT DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN COMPANIES AND MILLIONS OF AMERICAN WORKERS WHO STAND BEHIND THEM AND DEPEND ON THEM. THIRD, TIGHTENING RESTRICTIONS SENDS A MESSAGE THAT IT PES RIGHT FOR OUR GLOBAL COMPETITORS TO BID AGAINST AMERICAN GOODS AND SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE SELLING AND BUYING PROCUREMENT IN THEIR HOME MARKET. ALL OVER THE WORLD, IN COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA, INDIA AND BRAZIL, A VARIETY OF INDUSTRIES ARE POPPING UP TO BLOCK AMERICAN COMPANIES FROM SELLING INTO THERE. IN JUSTIFYING THOSE RESTRICTIONS AGAINST OUR AMERICAN COMPANIES, THESE COUNTRIES OFTEN POINT TO BUY-AMERICAN PROVISIONS AND ARGUE THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST THE SAME. WELL, THIS DYNAMIC HAS THE EFFECT OF STOPPING AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND THEIR WORKERS FROM COMPETING IN VAST PROCUREMENT MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD, RESULTING IN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS LOST TO AMERICA, TO OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO SELL OUR PRODUCTS OVERSEAS. FOURTH, SUCH MEASURES MAKE THE UNITED STATES A LESS ATTRACTIVE MARKET FOR FOREIGN-BASED COMPANIES THAT EMPLOY MILLIONS OF HARD-WORKING AMERICANS HERE AT HOME. EXPANDED DOMESTIC REQUIREMENTS SEND THE WRONG SIGNAL AS AMERICA SEEKS TO REVERSE THE TREND OF DECLINING FOREIGN INVESTMENT INTO AMERICA, WHICH CREATES PRODUCTS IN COMPANIES AND JOBS HERE IN AMERICA. AND FIFTH, TIGHTENING THE BUY-AMERICA RESTRICTIONS TO LEAD THE UNITED STATES TO WORLD TRADE LITIGATION AND RETALIATION. BASED ON WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE UNDER THE W.T.O. PROCUREMENT AGREEMENT. OVERALL, THESE PROVISIONS UNDERMINE THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO BUY THE HIGHEST QUALITY GOODS AND SERVICES AT THE LOW HEEST -- LOWEST COST TO US AND OUR OBLIGATIONS AROUND THE WORLD, AND SHOWS OUR TRADING PARTNERS AND BLOCKS OUR ABILITY TO SHOW OUR TRADING PARTNERS THAT THEY NEED TO OPEN THEIR PROCUREMENT MARKET FOR AMERICAN GOODS AND SERVICES AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY HURT U.S. COMPANIES THAT ARE TRYING TO FIND CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR PRODUCTS AND CUSTOMERS. I UNDERSTAND HOW POLITICALLY APPEALING THESE MEASURES CAN BE BUT WHEN THEY BACK FIRE AGAINST AMERICAN COMPANIES AND WORKERS, YOU DON'T READ MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT IT COSTS THESE WORKERS THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND MAKES AMERICAN COMPANIES COMPETING HERE AT HOME AND AROUND THE WORLD AND TAKES THEM OUT OF THE PICTURE. AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE A STRUGGLING ECONOMY, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE BAILOUTS, AFTER ALL THE CASH FOR CLUNKERS, DEBTS AND SPENDING, WE HAVE FEWER AMERICANS WORKING TODAY THAN WHEN THIS PRESIDENT TOOK OFFICE. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO HURT MORE AMERICAN WORKERS, DRIVE UP THE COST OF THESE PROJECTS, DELAY THEM FURTHER AND ULTIMATELY HURT OUR ABILITY TO COMPETE AROUND THE WORLD, THIS MAKES NO ECONOMIC SENSE FOR AMERICA. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE NO ON THIS MOTION, AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:45:18 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 08:45:27 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    TO YIELD THREE MINUTES AT THIS POINT TO THE GENTLELADY FROM OHIO, MS.…

    TO YIELD THREE MINUTES AT THIS POINT TO THE GENTLELADY FROM OHIO, MS. SUTTON, WHO HAS BEEN A REAL STALWART FOR BUY-AMERICAN PROVISIONS AND AMERICAN JOBS.

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  • 08:45:40 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. .

  • 08:45:52 PM

    MS. SUTTON

    THE LABORER AND STEELWORKER, FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND THE WORKING…

    THE LABORER AND STEELWORKER, FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND THE WORKING FAMILY. I RISE TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT BECAUSE WE SHOULD ALL RISE AND WE SHOULD ALL STRIVE TO SUPPORT OUR WORKING FAMILIES AND CREATE JOBS RIGHT HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE KNOW THAT ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE MONEY WE SPEND TO REBUILD AND STRENGTHEN OUR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE SPEND IT HERE, IT LEADS TO JOBS HERE. IF WE INVEST IN AMERICAN IRON, STEEL, AND MANUFACTURED GOODS, WE ARE INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCE THOSE PRODUCTS. WHILE IT'S EASY TO STAND UP HERE ON THE FLOOR AND TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR WORKERS AND CREATE JOBS, THIS MOTION TAKES THOSE WORDS AND TURNS THEM INTO ACTION. BY CLOSING LOOPHOLES AND STRENGTHENING BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS, WE COME ONE STEP CLOSER TO ENSURING THAT EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLAR SPENT ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE SPENT ON AN ITEM PROUDLY STAMPED MADE IN AMERICA. NOW LAST YEAR, I WAS PROUD TO INTRODUCE THE AMERICAN JOBS FIRST INITIATIVE, A SERIES OF FOUR BILLS TO STRENGTHEN BUY AMERICAN LAWS AND LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS AN WORKERS. I INTRODUCED THEM, MR. SPEAKER, BECAUSE EVERY DAY, I HEAR FROM OHIOANS WHO ARE READY TO GET BACK TO WORK, EVERY DAY I HEAR FROM OHIOANS WHO JUST WANT A CHANCE AT A GOOD-PAYING JOB AND A SLICE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. AND EVERY DAY I HEAR FROM OHIOANS WHO WANT THIS CONGRESS TO ACT. TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED, THAT WE WILL USE AMERICAN IRON AND STEEL AND MANUFACTURED GOODS TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. WELL, THIS IS OUR CHANCE, MR. SPEAKER. VOTE YES ON THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. VOTE FOR JOBS, VOTE FOR WORKING AMERICANS AND VOTE TO GIVE OUR CONSTITUENTS A FAIR CHANCE AT THE AMERICAN DREAM. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 08:47:59 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES.…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 08:48:09 PM

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    RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 08:48:14 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. CHRIS…

    THREE MINUTES TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. CHRIS MURPHY.

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  • 08:48:19 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINS.

  • 08:48:22 PM

    MR. MURPHY

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU, MR. RAHALL. RYE NIZZ -- I RISE IN…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU, MR. RAHALL. RYE NIZZ -- I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. WE HAVE PROPOSED A SERIES OF MEASURES TO SPEND A LITTLE MONEY TO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS, TO BUILD SOME NEW SCHOOLS, TO EXPAND BROADBAND AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MET BY RESISTANCE FROM REPUBLICANS. I REALIZED WHY THAT IS. THE ARGUMENT IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MUST BE TO SPEND. I GET THAT ARGUMENT. WHAT I DON'T GET IS THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS MOTION. WITH THIS -- WHAT THIS MOTION SAYS IS, FORGET SPENDING NEW MONEY. LET'S MAKE SURE THE MONEY WE ARE ALREADY OBLIGATED TO SPEND IS SPENT ON AMERICAN JOBS. NO NEW MONEY. LET'S JUST REDIRECT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON BRIDGES, ON ROADS, ON RAILWAYS, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS SPENT ON U.S. COMPANIES. AND IT'S WRONG TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRAMATICALLY RATCHETING UP BUY AMERICAN STANDARDS SUCH THAT WE'RE GOING TO IGNITE A TRADE WAR. BUY AMERICA LAWS HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR GENERATIONS. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BRINGING BUY AMERICA STANDARDS BACK TO WHAT THEY USED TO BE. THE FACT IS, WE HAVE BLOWN HOLE AFTER HOLE AFTER HOLE IN BUY AMERICA, IN PART BECAUSE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHICH OPPOSE THIS IS MOTION TO INSTRUCT THINK IT'S A GOOD THING FOR BIG MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES WHO BID ON THIS WORK TO BE ABLE TO TAKE BIG CHUNKS OF IT OVERSEAS WHERE THEY CAN DRIVE DOWN THE COST TO THEM AND KEEP A BIGGER DIMPRBLE OF THE CONTRACT. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THESE LOOPHOLES. ONE LOOPHOLE IS A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SEGMENT A CONTRACT INTO ALL SORTS OF SMALL LITTLE PIECES. WHEN YOU SEGMENT THAT CONTRACT INTO SMALL PIECES, EACH ONE OF THOSE PIECES CAN RESULT IN THE AMOUNT OF THE PARTICULAR CONTRACT BEING SO SMALL IT DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR BUY AMERICA. ON ONE PARTICULAR BRIDGE CONTRACT IN SAN FRANCISCO, BY SEGMENTING OUT THE CONTRACT AND GETTING AROUND BUY AMERICA, WE LOST $43 -- WE LOST 43,000 TONS OF STEEL TO A CHINESE STEEL COMPANY. AMERICAN JOBS LOST. WHEN YOU ALLOW FOR EVERY COUNTRY THAT SIGNS A TRADE AGREEMENT TO BE EXEMPT FROM BUY AMERICA, THIS HAPPENS. GUESS WHAT, TODAY WE MAKE OUR DOG TAGS ON A EUROPEAN-MADE MACHINE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE COUNTRY THAT MAKES IT IS EXEMPT FROM BUY AMERICA AND THEY BID 4% LESS THAN THE AMERICAN COMPANY DID. AMERICAN JOBS. LOST. WE WIN WHEN WE ENFORCE BUY AMERICA. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS A COMPANY GETS A CONTRACT, THEY SUBCONTRACT WITH OTHER AMERICAN COMPANIES AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THAT ONE INITIAL CONTRACT MULTIPLIES JOBS TIMES THREE THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY. EVERY TIME WE SEND A CONTRACT OVERSEAS, YEAH, IT MAY SAVE THAT PARTICULAR BID 3% OR 4% OR 5%. BUT WHEN WE LOSE THAT JOB HERE IN AMERICA, WHEN WE HAVE TO START PAYING UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION, WHEN WE LOSE THE TACKS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHEN THAT UNEMPLOYED WORKER'S KIDS NEED TO GO ON MEDICAID, GUESS WHAT, THAT 3% OR 4% OR 5% DISAPPEARS OVERNIGHT. LET'S PASS THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT.

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  • 08:51:44 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

  • 08:52:05 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    SPEAKER I'M HAPPY TO YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO A VERY VALUED MEMBER OF OUR…

    SPEAKER I'M HAPPY TO YIELD FOUR MINUTES TO A VERY VALUED MEMBER OF OUR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR. LIPINSKI.

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  • 08:52:17 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FOUR MINUTES.

  • 08:52:20 PM

    MR. LIPINSKI

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MY GOOD FRIEND, THE…

    I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MY GOOD FRIEND, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, MR. RAHALL. MR. RAHALL HAS BEEN A TRUE ADVOCATE FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER AND CERTAINLY FOR OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT KEY IMPORTANCE OF NOT -- HE UNDERSTANDS THE KEY IMPORTANCE OF NOT ONLY PASSING THIS BILL BUT MAKING SURE THAT THIS BILL IS PUTTING AMERICANS TO WORK. THIS CONGRESS HAS BEEN WORKING TO IMPROVE BUY AMERICA REQUIREMENTS IN MY BUY AMERICAN IMPROVEMENT ACT. MR. RAHALL INTRODUCED THE BUY AMERICAN -- THE THE CREATE AMERICAN JOBS ACT OF 2011. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THESE BILLS IN THE HOUSE, WE WERE UNABLE TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL WE WORK ON IN COMMITTEE BUT IN THE SENATE THEY CAME TO A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE THESE IMPORTANT PROVISIONS IN THE BILL. INCLUDING PROHIBITING THE SEGMENTATION OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, GUARANTEEING TRANSPARENCY AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, A REQUEST FOR WAIVERS FOR -- ON REQUESTS FOR WAIVERS ON BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS, REQUIRING THE D.O.T. TO REPORT ANNUALLY ON THE WAIVERS IT GRANTS. WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ALL TOO OFTEN THERE ARE LOOPHOLES THAT ARE EITHER PURPOSELY USED IN ORDER TO GET A PRODUCT FROM OVERSEAS OR SOMETIMES JUST SIMPLY OVERLOOKED. I HAD AN ISSUE WITH A CONTRACTOR, DEFENSE CONTRACTOR IN MY DISTRICT WHO LOST A JOB, LOST A BID TO MAKE A PRODUCT TO A SOUTH KOREAN COMPANY. THEY KNEW THAT THE LAW WAS NOT FOLLOWED, BUT FAR TOO OFTEN, SOMEONE WHO HAS A PRODUCT TO OFFER, SOMEONE WHO HAS A PRODUCT THAT CAN BE USED IN A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY WERE PASSED OVER. IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE PUT THIS SENATE LANGUAGE IN THE FINAL BILL, THE CONFEREES DO THAT, SO WE CAN KNOW WHEN AN AMERICAN COMPANY CAN DO THE JOB, WE GET THAT TO AMERICA WORKERS. IF WE ENSURE THAT ALL THE IRON, STEEL, MANUFACTURED GOODS, USING FEDERAL TRANSIT AND HIGHWAY IS PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES IT CREATES JOBS FOR AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS AN STOPS NEEDLESS OUTSOURCING. IN ADDITION, BY CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE, THESE PROVISIONS WILL GUARANTEE THAT WHEN PROJECTS ARE FUND BY U.S. TAXPAYERS, THEY'LL BE MADE BY AMERICAN WORKERS AND CREATE AMERICAN JOBS INSTEAD OF BEING OUTSOURCED OVERSEAS. THERE'S A REASON THE CHINESE INSIST ON BUY CHINESE, THAT INDIA INSIS ON BUY INDIAN AND BRAZIL ON BUY BRAZILIAN. WE'RE HERE TO SAY WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING, TO SEND THE MESSAGE THAT U.S. TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD BE SPENT IN THE UNITED STATES, NOT IN CHINA OR ANYWHERE ELSE. THESE ARE PROVISIONS OUR COUNTRY MEEDS NOW MORE THAN EVER. THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER FUNDS FOR TRANSPORTATION SHOULD BE USED TO CREATE AMERICAN JOBS. IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE. IF YOU GO HOME, ANY OF US, WE GO HOME AND TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, THEY UNDERSTAND IT. THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S COMMON SENSE. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FAR TOO INFREQUENT THAT WE DO WHAT IS COMMON SENSE HERE. THE SENATE MANAGED TO DO WHAT IS COMMON SENSE AND PUT IN IMPORTANT KEY BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS IN THEIR VERSION OF THE TRANSPORTATION BILL, THE CONFEREES SHOULD ACCEPT THAT SENATE POSITION, THAT BIPARTISAN POSITION, THE COMMON SENSE POSITION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS TRANSPORTATION BILL PASSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TAXPAYER FUNDS ARE USED TO PUT AMERICANS TO WORK. NOT TO BE OUTSOURCED. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 08:56:17 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS RECOGNIZED.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    1/2 MINUTES FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA AND 21 MINUTES FOR THE…

    1/2 MINUTES FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA AND 21 MINUTES FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK.

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  • 08:56:39 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLOSE?

  • 08:56:45 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    I YIELD THREE MINUTES AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, SHEILA…

    I YIELD THREE MINUTES AT THIS TIME TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, SHEILA JACKSON LEE.

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  • 08:56:50 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

  • 08:56:53 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND I THANK HIM…

    I THANK THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP. MANY MEMBERS HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ANGST OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHETHER IT'S IN WEST VIRGINIA OR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, TO OHIO, MAYBE EVEN UTAH. WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS PART OF THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY TO ENGAGE IN TRADE. THAT IS PART OF THE ECONOMIC FABRIC OF THIS CONSTRUCT OF WHICH WE WORK TOGETHER. BUT MR. RAHALL'S MOTION IS BOTH INSTRUCTIVE AND VITAL. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE MOST RECENTLY FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS, CITY OF HOUSTON HAS WAITED A MIGHTY LONG TIME. BUT IN THE COURSE OF DOING THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, OVER TWO DECADES OF TRYING TO SECURE FUNDING FOR A LIGHT RAIL PROJECT, WE HAVE SEEN THE STEEL INDUSTRY IN AMERICA DECIMATED. THE STORY OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BRIDGE IS NOT ONLY TRAGIC, IT IS WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT ONE WOULD LOSE JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS BID. IT IS NO INSULT TO CHINA FOR AMERICA TO STAND UP AND DEMAND THAT WE BUY AMERICAN. IT IS NO INSULT TO OUR OTHER ALLIES. MR. SPEAKER, THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE DOES. THIS MOTION CREATES AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD IN A NEW WORLD MATRIX WHERE EVERY MAN AND EVERY WOMAN ON THE INTERNATIONAL FIELD OF TRADE IS FOR THEMSELVES. LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY OF DEALING WITH FEDERAL FUNDING. I'VE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO PRESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, OF RAIL CARS. WE DON'T MAKE RAIL CARS. WHAT WE HAVE ARE COMPANIES THAT ARE BASED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, OWNED ELSEWHERE, BUT ARE BASED HERE, AND THEREFORE THEY MAKE THESE PARTICULAR RAIL CARS IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S AT LEAST HALFWAY BECAUSE IT DOES CREATE JOBS. I FRANKLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE GIVEN FEDERAL FUND, THOSE SAME COMPANIES WOULD TRY TO RELOCATE THE RAIL MAKING PROCESS IN THE AREA WHERE THE LIGHT RAIL OR THE RAIL SYSTEM IS GOING. THE PROHIBITING OF THE SEGMENTATION OF HIGHWAY TRANSIT AND AMTRAK PROJECTS IS BRILLIANT BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES AGAIN IS CREATE AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN ESSENCE EXPERTS ON MAKING THE ASPECT OF HIGHWAY AND TRANSIT, IT ALLOWS THEM THE EVEN PLAYING FIELD OF BIDDING. TO REQUIRE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC NOTICE IS CRUCIAL TO GIVE OUR COMPANIES AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. WHY SHOULD WE BE ASHAMED OF TRYING TO REBUILD MANUFACTURING TO TRY TO PUT LIFE BACK INTO THE STEEL INDUSTRY BECAUSE NOTHING IS EVER FINAL UNTIL YOU MAKE THE EFFORT TO DO SO.

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  • 09:00:07 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    I YIELD THE GENTLELADY AN ADECISIONAL MINUTE.

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    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN -- THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.

  • 09:00:16 PM

    MS. JACKSON LEE

    LEE: THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO MATCH WHAT IS BEING DONE IN…

    LEE: THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO MATCH WHAT IS BEING DONE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. THERE WILL BE AMERICAN COMPANIES TELLING YOU THAT BRIBES ARE PASSED WHILE THEY TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH OTHERS TRYING TO DO BUSINESS OVERSEAS. I HAD A CONSTITUENT IN MY OFFICE TODAY SAID THEY ENGAGED WITH A KOREAN COMPANY, THEY WENT IN WITH AN AGREEMENT, THEY HAD A SIGNED AGREEMENT, GAVE THEM THEIR INTELLIGENCE AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION AND SAID WE WILL MATCH THIS AND DO THIS TOGETHER. WHEN THEY GOT TO THE END POINT, THE KOREAN COMPANY SAID, WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BIDS WHEN THEY PROMISED THE AMERICAN COMPANY THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE, THEY WOULD BE PARTNERING ALL THE WAY. LET ME TELL YOU TWHEA FINAL RESULTS WERE. THE CROON -- THE KOREAN COMPANY DIDN'T GO OUT FOR BIDS THEY TOOK THE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION AND DID THE JOB THEMS. THE AMERICAN COMPANY WAS LEFT OUT THE DOOR. NOT EXACTLY FITTING WHAT MR. RAHALL IS SAYING BUT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY WE HAVE TO MATCH THE KIND OF INTENSITY ON THE INTERNATIONAL ARENA WE HAVE TO MATCH IT BY PROTECTING AMERICAN COMPANIES. I WOULD SAY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT VITAL MOTION TO INSTRUCT AND I WANT FEDERAL DOLLARS TO BE UTILIZED FOR AMERICAN COMPANIES. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT APPROACH TO BUY AMERICA. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:01:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    FROM NEW YORK RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA. MR.

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  • 09:01:47 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    SPEAKER, I'M READY TO CLOSE IF THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS READY TO…

    SPEAKER, I'M READY TO CLOSE IF THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK IS READY TO YIELD BACK HIS TIME OR CLOSE HIMSELF FIRST.

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    BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 09:01:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST…

    FROM NEW YORK YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WEST VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 09:02:00 PM

    MR. RAHALL

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IN CONCLUSION ON THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT, LET ME…

    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IN CONCLUSION ON THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE MOTION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE SENATE BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS. THE SENATE PASSED BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR IF NOT EXACTLY AS THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ADOPTED ON A VOICE VOTE WHICH WAS OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MINNESOTA, MR. CRAVE HE CAN, DURING -- CRAVAACK. SO THE MAJORITY HAS ACCEPTED THIS LANGUAGE IN COMMITTEE DELIBERATION AND YET THEY APPEAR TO BE OPPOSING IT AS IT COMES TO THE FLOOR TODAY. IN THE FORM OF A MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE CONFEREES. I WOULD SAY ALSO THAT THAT BUY AMERICAN PROVISION THAT IS IN THE SENATE-PASSED BILL, THAT THIS MOTION SEEKS TO EXCEPT, DOES ALLOW FOR THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TO PROVIDE FOR OTHER THAN U.S.-MADE WHEN THAT PRODUCT THAT IS NEEDED CANNOT BE FOUND IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR WHEN IT IS TRULY COST PROHIBITIVE TO MAKE THAT PRODUCT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SO THERE IS SUFFICIENT WAIVER AUTHORITY PROVIDED IN THE SENATE BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS TO ALLOW THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION TO DO WHAT IT IS -- WHAT IS IN AMERICA'S BEST INTEREST. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, BY ADOPTING MY MOTION TO I INSTRUCT -- TO ININSTRUCT AND IN CONFERENCE, HOPEFULLY ADOPTING THIS SENATE BUY AMERICAN PROVISION, WE'RE ENDING THE MOST EGREGIOUS LOOPHOLE THAT IS USED TO EXPORT AMERICAN JOBS AND THAT IS THE SEG MENTATION OF CONTRACTS -- SEGMENTATION OF CONTRACTS THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES TO CIRCUMVENT CURRENT BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS. LET ME SAY IN ADDITION THAT I WAS HERE FOR MOST OF THE PREVIOUS DEBATE ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION TO INSTRUCT ON THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE. AND I HEARD A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT FROM THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE, URGING AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY, AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY. AND I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT PRINCIPLE. AND I'M AN ADVOCATE OF ALL OF THE ABOVE AS LONG AS IT'S DOMESTIC IN OUR ENERGY POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I MIGHT ADD I'M A SUPPORTER OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE AND HAVE SO VOTED IN PREVIOUS VOTES IN THIS BODY. BUT NOW IT COMES TO THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES ON BUY AMERICAN AND I HEAR JUST THE OPPOSITE FROM THE MAJORITY SIDE, BY THEIR RATHER SILENT OPPOSITION BUT NONETHELESS STATED OPPOSITION TO THIS MOTION. BECAUSE WHILE THEY'RE FOR AMERICAN-MADE ENERGY, THEY APPEAR TO BE AGAINST AMERICAN-MADE PRODUCTS, USING AMERICAN LABOR AND USING THE BUY IN AMERICA LABOR ON U.S. STEEL AND OTHER PRODUCTS USED IN OUR HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSIT MODES IN THIS COUNTRY. SO IT SEEMS TO BE RATHER CONTRADICTORY OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE MAJORITY'S SIDE IN THE DEBATE ON THESE TWO MOTIONS THIS EVENING. SO AS I CONCLUDE LET ME SAY THAT THIS MOTION HAS TRULY WIDE-RANGING SUPPORT. I ROE RECOGNIZE THAT THE MAJORITY HAS -- I RECOGNIZE THAT THE MAJORITY HAS INSERTED THE UNITED STATES CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME I HEARD REFERENCE TO THE DEALS AND THE RELATIONSHIPS AND THE OTHER ALLIANCES THAT OUR UNITED STATES, SUPPOSEDLY UNITED STATES CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS. AGAIN, SHIPPING JOBS OVERSEAS. SO, I WONDER IF IT'S TRULY THE UNITED STATES' CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT'S ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. BUT I WILL LIST THOSE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO INSTRUCT. THE ALLIANCE FOR AMERICAN MANUFACTURING, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF STEEL CONSTRUCTION, THE AMERICAN IRON AND STEEL INSTITUTE, THE BLUE-GREEN ALLIANCE, THE COMMITTEE ON PIPE AND TUBE IMPORTS, THE CONCRETE REINFORCING STEEL INSTITUTE, INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS, MCVEIN INCORPORATED, NATIONAL STEEL BRIDGE ALLIANCE, NEWCORPS CORPORATION, SPECIAL STEEL INDUSTRY OF NORTH AMERICA, STEEL MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION, THE TRANSPORTATION TRADES DEPARTMENT AND THE UNITED STEEL WORKERS OF AMERICA ARE AMONG JUST A FEW OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION TO INSTRUCT. SO AGAIN LET ME SAY THIS IS ABOUT -- AND I WILL CONCLUDE NOW, AMERICAN JOBS. WHEN IT'S MADE IN AMERICA, AMERICANS CAN MAKE IT. AND WE HAVE TOO MANY AMERICANS TODAY THAT ARE NOT MAKING IT AND THEY ARE NEAR THEIR ROPE'S END, THEY'RE FRUSTRATED, THEY DO NOT SEE WASHINGTON OR THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES AS IN ANY WAY ADDRESSING THE REAL PROBLEMS THAT EXIST OUT THERE IN AMERICA AND THE REAL PROBLEMS IN THEIR LIVES AND THEY SEE US JUST PASSING THE BUCK AND CONTINUING TO ARGUE AMONG OURSELVES AND APPEAR TO NOT AGREE ON ANYTHING. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO AGREE ON, AS EVIDENCED BY THE BIPARTISAN MANNER IN WHICH THIS BILL PASSED THE OTHER BODY. AND WE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ANYTHING THROUGH THAT OTHER BODY. BUT THIS TRANSPORTATION LEGISLATION DID PASS WITH OVER 70 VOTES IN THE OTHER BODY, A RATHERITY IN THIS ATMOSPHERE TODAY IN WASHINGTON, BUT NEVERTHELESS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AND THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE ADOPTING HERE, IS LOOKING AT THAT BIPARTISAN BILL AND FOLLOWING THE OTHER BODY'S LEAD IN THIS PROVISION AND IN THE ENTIRE BILL ITSELF. SO I CONCLUDE AND URGE MEMBERS TO ADOPT THIS MOTION TO I STRUBT -- TO ININSTRUCT CONFEREES.

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  • 09:08:02 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PREVIOUS QUESTION IS ORDERED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 09:08:13 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY…

    THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE REQUESTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS VOTE BY THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL RISE AND REMAIN STANDING UNTIL COUNTED. A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING ARISEN, THE YEAS AND NAYS ARE ORDERED. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE 20 FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE QUESTION WILL BE POSTPONED.

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  • 09:09:14 PM

    THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 4310. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH, MR. CHAFFETZ, KINDLY TAKE THE CHAIR?

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  • 09:09:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE…

    THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE HOUSE IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 4310 WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE.

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  • 09:09:46 PM

    THE CLERK

    YEAR 2013, FOR MILITARY ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, TO…

    YEAR 2013, FOR MILITARY ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTH FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

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  • 09:10:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 PRINTED IN THE HOUSE…

    OF THE WHOLE ROSE EARLIER TODAY AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 PRINTED IN THE HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. POLIS, HAD BEEN DISPOSED OF. IT IS NOW THE ORDER OF CONSIDERATION, AMENDMENT NUMBER 17, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 09:10:21 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

  • 09:10:24 PM

    THE CLERK

    17 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. COFFMAN OF COLORADO.

  • 09:10:32 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. COFFMAN, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO, MR. COFFMAN, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO.

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  • 09:10:42 PM

    MR. COFFMAN

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THE PREVAILING TREND WITHIN THE…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THE PREVAILING TREND WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS BEEN AN INCREASED BIAS FOR THE USE OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TO PERFORM COMMERCIAL SERVICES. THIS PENDULUM HAS SWUNG TOO FAR IN THE DIRECTION OF A NONCOMPETITIVE BIG-GOVERNMENT MODEL. CONGRESS IS CUTTING THE DEFENSE BUDGET BY $487 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND SIMULTANEOUSLY PREVENTING THE PENTAGON FROM UTILIZING FREE MARKET COMPETITION TO DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. WE MUST TAKE THE HANDCUFFS OFF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND ALLOW THE SECRETARY TO SHOP FOR THE BEST PRODUCTS AND SERVICES AT THE BEST PRICE. I AM OFFERING AMENDMENT 54, WHICH SIMPLY RETURNS BALANCE TO CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AND PRIVATE CONTRACTORS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. MY AMENDMENT REMOVES ANY BIAS TOWARD PRIVATE OR PUBLIC WORK FORCE PERFORMANCE OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND ALLOWS THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MORE OPTIONS IN DISCRETION TO EFFICIENTLY MANAGE TAXPAYER MONEY AUTHORIZED TO RUN HIS DEPARTMENT. IN 2010 THEN SECRETARY GATES ADMITTED, QUOTE, WE WEREN'T SEEING THE SAVINGS WE HAD HOPED FOR FROM INSOURCING, UNQUOTE. DESPITE THE CANDID ASSESSMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REMAINS PROHIBITED FROM UTILIZING ANY FORM OF COMPETITION WHEN LOOKING FOR NEW COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND IT IS TOO OFTEN DIRECTED TO INSOURCE SERVICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PERFORMED BY PRIVATE CONTRACTORS. SMALL BUSINESSES THAT RECEIVED GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS BY VIRTUE OF A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS ARE POWERFULLESS SO STOP -- TO STOP THE LOSS -- POWERLESS TO STOP THE LOSS OF THEIR JOBS. NEARLY UNRESTRICTED INSOURCING PRACTICES ARE FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND ONES THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD IN THE CURRENT OR FORESEEABLE FISCAL ENVIRONMENT. MY AMENDMENT WILL STRIKE THE LAW THAT PREVENTS THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FROM UTILIZING PRIVATE SECTOR COMPETITION, TO PROVIDE NEW PRODUCTS FOR SERVICES AND REPLACES THOSE RESTRICTIONS WITH THE ABILITY TO COMPETITIVELY BID OUT FOR NEW COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS OR SERVICES AND SELECT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE OPTION. FURTHER, IT REMOVES CRITERIA THAT COMPEL THE PENTAGON TO INSOURCE COMPETITIVE CONTRACTS CURRENTLY BEING PERFORMED. ACCORDING TO O.M.B., G.A.O. AND THE CENTER FOR NAVAL ANALYSIS, SAVINGS OF 30% ARE ACHIEVED WHEN IMPLEMENTING COMPETITIVE SOURCING FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES CURRENTLY PERFORMED BY THE GOVERNMENT. THE FEDERAL ACTIVITIES INVENTORY REFORM OR FAIR ACT REQUIRES THE DIRECTOR OF O.M.B. TO COMPILE A LIST OF ACTIVITIES PERFORMED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SOURCES THAT ARE NOT INHERENTLY GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, THE FAIR ACT, IDENTIFIES 453,000 JOBS THAT COULD BE PERFORMED BY A COMPETITIVE SOURCE. IF COMPETITION IS APPLIED TO ALL D.O.D. FAIR ACT POSITIONS, THE ANNUAL SAVINGS COULD EXCEED $13 BILLION. MY AMENDMENT RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT SHOULD BE PERFORMED BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. IT DOES NOT ADJUST THE DEFINITION OF INHERENTLY GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS OR FUNCTIONS CLOSELY ASSOCIATED TO INHERENTLY GOVERNMENTAL. AND DOES NOT SEEK TO OUTSOURCE THOSE FUNCTIONS IN ANY WAY. IT WILL ONLY ADDRESS COMMERCIAL FUNCTIONS AND AFFORD THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OPTIONS TO REDUCE THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES -- THOSE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:14:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM RISE?

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  • 09:14:28 PM

    MS. BORDALLO

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. AND I YIELD MYSELF…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. AND I YIELD MYSELF TWO MINUTES.

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  • 09:14:39 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN MAY STATE HIS INQUIRY.

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    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. DID I RESERVE THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I WISH TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. DID I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME?

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  • 09:14:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    HAD YIELDED BACK.

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    UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. TO RECLAIM MY TIME.

  • 09:14:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM IS…

    SO ORDERED. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. TWO MINUTES.

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  • 09:15:06 PM

    MS. BORDALLO

    AS THE RANKING MEMBER ON READINESS, I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS…

    AS THE RANKING MEMBER ON READINESS, I RISE IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT, MR. SPEAKER. . THE AMENDMENT FLIES IN THE FACE OF PROVISIONS ADOPTED BY CONGRESS IN LAST YEAR'S DEFENSE BILL AND SUPPORTED BY THE SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. DEFENSE SECRETARY PANETTA IS COMMITTED TO PROMOTING AND FACILITATING IMPROVED TOTAL FORCE MANAGEMENT, THAT IS REQUIREMENTS BASED AND DELIVERS THE APPROPRIATE MIX OF CIVILIAN, MILITARY AND CONTRACTED SUPPORT. THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT SIMPLY LIFT THE A-76 MORATORIUM AS THE AUTHOR SUGGESTS. I WOULD NOTE THAT OUR COMMITTEE, ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS, REJECTED AN AMENDMENT TO LIFT THE MORATORIUM, BY A BIPARTISAN 25 TO 36 VOTE. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY GUTS HOW THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MANAGES ITS PERSONNEL AND REDUCES OVERSIGHT OF MANY CONTRACTED FUNCTIONS. THE AMENDMENT IS CONTRARY TO THE BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS THAT THIS CONGRESS HAS FORGED AND HOW D.O.D. SHOULD AND CAN MANAGE ITS PERSONNEL. SO I'M ASKING, DO NOT VOTE ON LIFTING THE A-76 MORATORIUM. SAY NO TO THIS AMENDMENT. AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE IT. AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:16:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO…

    GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 09:16:45 PM

    MR. COFFMAN

    CHANGES THAT THIS AMENDMENT MAKES TO CURRENT LAW. ONE IS STATES THAT NEW…

    CHANGES THAT THIS AMENDMENT MAKES TO CURRENT LAW. ONE IS STATES THAT NEW FUNCTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ENTERS INTO AS FAR AS HAVING CONTRACTING REQUIREMENTS CAN BE DONE BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. DOESN'T SAY SHALL BE DONE BUT GIVES THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AN OPTION, A TOOL, TO SAVE MONEY, FUNCTIONS THAT HAD BEEN PERFORMED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS TO OUTSOURCE THESE FUNCTIONS. IT SAYS THAT THEY MAY BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A COST-EFFECTIVE OPTION. EXPANSION OF EXISTING FUNCTIONS PERFORMED BY DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. AGAIN, IF, IN FACT, THERE IS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS LAID ON, SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY DONE BY CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, CURRENT LAW SAYS, WE HAVE TO COMPENSATE YOU --

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  • 09:17:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 09:17:58 PM

    MS. BORDALLO

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII, MRS. HANABUSA.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS REALLY AN ASSAULT ON…

    I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. THIS IS REALLY AN ASSAULT ON FEDERAL CIVILIAN WORK FORCE. THE AMENDMENT IS ON THE MISGUIDED BELIEF THAT PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ARE LESS COSTLY AND MORE EFFICIENT AND OUTSOURCING SHOULD BE THE WAY WE DO, WHERE THE INSOURCING HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT PRIVATE CONTRACTORS GET PAID 1.83 TIMES, ALMOST TWICE THE GOVERNMENT PAYS ITS OWN EMPLOYEES. GOVERNMENT PAY IS LESS IN ALL OF THE 35 CATEGORIES THEY REVIEWED. THE AMOUNT SPENT GREW FROM FISCAL ONE TO TEN UP TO $69 BILLION AND AT THE SAME TIME THE PRIVATE SECTOR GREW UP TO $181 BILLION. THE ARMY HAS SAID INSOURCING SAVES THEM 16% TO 30%. WE ARE HERE NOW TODAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE TO THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. SECRETARY PANETTA SAYS HE WANTS TO UPHOLD THE POLICY, THAT THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE MIX OF CIVILIAN, MILITARY AND PRIVATE. AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LET THAT CONTINUE. SO THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE FACTS. IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. IT IS CLEARLY AN ATTEMPT TO SUPPORT THE PRIVATE SECTOR ON THE BACK OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. FOR THAT REASON I ASK EVERYONE TO VOTE NO. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:19:47 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM IS RECOGNIZED. SHE HAS TWO…

    FROM YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM GUAM IS RECOGNIZED. SHE HAS TWO MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 09:19:58 PM

    MS. BORDALLO

    CAN SPEAK FROM FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE. THE A-76 PROGRAM WAS A PILOT PROGRAM…

    CAN SPEAK FROM FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE. THE A-76 PROGRAM WAS A PILOT PROGRAM IN THE TERRITORY OF GUAM A FEW YEARS AGO. I SERVED AS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AT THE TIME AND I WILL SAY THISFORD, THAT THIS PROGRAM WAS A DISMAL FAILURE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE EXPERIENCED. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS FOUND INSOURCING TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND IT'S AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO REBALANCE THE WORK FORCE, REALIGN INHERENTLY GOVERNMENTAL AND OTHER GOVERNMENT WORK TO CRITICAL PERFORMANCE TO CONTRACT SUPPORT AND IN MANY INSTANCES TO GENERATE RESOURCE EFFICIENCIES. SO AGAIN, I'M SAYING THAT WE SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT , LIFTING THE A-76 MORATORIUM WOULD BE A SAD MISTAKE ON OUR PART. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:20:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT.

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  • 09:21:09 PM

    MR. COFFMAN

    I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN…

    6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM COLORADO WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 18 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 09:21:42 PM

    MR. KEATING

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 18 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT NUMBER 112-485 OFFERED BY MR.…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 18 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT NUMBER 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. KEATING OF MASSACHUSETTS.

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  • 09:22:00 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION, AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. KEATING AND A MEMBER OPPOSED…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION, AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. KEATING AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR 10 MINUTES EACH.

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  • 09:22:13 PM

    MR. KEATING

    THE CHAMBER MAY HAVE SEEN ALL THE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT ISSUES WERE RESOLVED…

    THE CHAMBER MAY HAVE SEEN ALL THE NATIONAL GUARD UNIT ISSUES WERE RESOLVED IN THE MARKUP OF THIS BILL, BUT THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. A VITAL AND UNIQUE GROUP OF THE AIR NATIONAL GUARD HAVE A FULL-TIME MISSION TO SUPPORT ACTIVE-DUTY BASES. THEY TAKE ON A LARGE CHUNK OF THE WORK LOAD WHILE ACCOUNTING OF THE MISSION'S WORK FORCE AND THE WORK IS ALL DONE DOMESTICALLY. IN AND OF ITSELF THAT PROVIDES A HIGHER DEGREE OF SECURITY BECAUSE THERE ARE DISCRETE SITES THAT ARE MORE EASILY SECURED IN THE UNITED STATES. THESE UNITS WERE CREATED BECAUSE THEY ARE COST EFFECTIVE AND ELIMINATING THEM WILL BE UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND MISPLACED COSTS AND ENDANGERED LIVES. TO ILLUSTRATE, THE 102ND AIR OPERATIONS GROUP AT OTIS WORKS 24/7, 365 DAYS TO CONDUCT 30% OF THE SURVEILLANCE MISSIONS AND ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 10% OF THE COMMAND'S WORK FORCE, 30% OF THE MISSION, 10% OF THE COMMAND'S WORK FORCE. THE 102ND AIR OPERATION GROUP'S COUNTERPART IN LOUISIANA RELY ON THESE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN TO EXAMINE REAL-TIME FOOTAGE AND SPOT OUT THREATS. WHEN I TALK ABOUT CONSEQUENCES, INCLUDING THE ENDANGERING OF LIVES, THE WORK HAS HELPED OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN TRACK THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS THESE EVENTS ARE OCCURRING. IT HAS THE BASKETS BACKS OF OUR SOLDIERS IN THE FIELD AND DEFENSE AGAINST NUCLEAR WEAPONS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE AIR FORCE IS ONLY NOW REALIZING THE IMPACT OF THIS LOSS. I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE ACRONYMS THAT ARE HERE BUT I WANTED TO TAKE THE ACTUAL SLIDE FROM THE AIR FORCE PRESENTATION. THIS SLIDE IS FROM MAY 2ND AND IT IS FROM THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF OF OPERATIONS FOR THE AIR FORCE, AND IT PROVES THAT THE UNITS LIKE 102ND ARE ESSENTIAL. ACCORDING TO THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS ONLY TWO WEEKS OLD, THE 102ND AIR OPERATIONS GROUP IS QUOTE, ESSENTIAL TO THE U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND, TIME-SENSITIVE PLANNING MISSION, UNQUOTE, AND THE IMPACT OF LOSING THIS UNIT WILL RENDER THE AIR FORCE, QUOTE, UNUNABLE TO FULLY SUPPORT EXTENDED TIME-SENSITIVE SCENARIOS, UNQUOTE. FURTHERMORE, THE AIR FORCE REIT RATES WITHOUT THE 102ND AIR OPERATIONS GROUP, THE MISSION OF THE GLOBAL STRIKE COMMAND WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED AND THE RAPID ASSESSMENT TEAM CURRENTLY IN PLACE CANNOT TAKE ON MORE SURVEILLANCE DUTIES WITHOUT THE 102ND A.O.G. BUT MOST THE MOST GLARING PIECE OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE IS ON THE LAST LINE WHICH SIMPLY STATES THAT THE NATIONAL GUARD BUREAU DID NOT COORDINATE THIS CUT WITH U.S. STRAT COME OR THE EIGHTH AIR FORCE. CLEARLY THE AIR FORCE KNOWS THAT A BIG MISTAKE WAS MADE WITH THE DECISION TO ELIMINATE THESE GUARD UNITS. MY AMENDMENT SIMPLY FREEZES CUTS TO AIR NATIONAL GUARD UNITS TO SUPPORT THE AIR FORCE UNTIL THE IMPACT OF THE UNIT'S LOSS IS DETERMINED AND REPORTED TO CONGRESS. THIS LANGUAGE LEAVES ROOM TO SORT OUT THE UNITS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOR THESE REASONS, I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:26:27 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 09:26:34 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND AND…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. FORBES.

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  • 09:26:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. FORBES

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND SAY TO MY FRIEND ON HIS AMENDMENT,…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND SAY TO MY FRIEND ON HIS AMENDMENT, WE SHARE HIS LOVE FOR THE GUARD CROSS THIS BODY. WE RECOGNIZE THE GREAT JOB THEY DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN'S WORK AND THE RANKING MEMBER'S WORK TO MAKE SURE IN THIS BILL THAT THEY HAVE RAISED AND SAVED MANY OF OUR GUARD PRIORITIES AND LOOKING IN THERE AND DOING THAT. AND I WISH WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAVE EVERYTHING IN THIS BILL BUT FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE CRITICIZED FOR THE EXTRA MONEY WE HAVE PUT IN ALREADY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU REALIZE IS THAT AT TIMES, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN ALLOCATION. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, THE NATIONAL GUARD BUREAU ACTUALLY LOOKED AND SAID, WE WANT TO SAVE AND PRIORITIZE OUR U.A.V. MISSION BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IS HIGHER THAN HEADQUARTERS' FUNCTIONS. THEY MADE A PRIORITY ASSESSMENT ON THAT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO SAVE THE U.A.V. MISSIONS AND NOT HEADQUARTERS' OPERATIONS. ALSO REALIZE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THESE GUARD UNITS IN OUR OWN AREA, BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FELT THAT WASN'T POSSIBLE. THEY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SAY, IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE BETWEEN PROTECTING OUR HEADQUARTERS' UNIT AND PROTECTING MISSILE DEFENSE, THAT IS AN EASY DECISION FOR US. WE WANT TO PROTECT MISSILE DEFENSE. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK AND HOPE WE VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:28:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 09:28:20 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    YIELD TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. TURNER.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

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    MR. TURNER

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA EACH…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA EACH ENJOY 30 SECONDS.

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  • 09:31:41 PM

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    CHAIRMAN. DON'T BE PRESUMPTION WHITE HOUSE ENOUGH TO TELL ME MY…

    CHAIRMAN. DON'T BE PRESUMPTION WHITE HOUSE ENOUGH TO TELL ME MY MOTIVATION. WE LOOK FOR MANY PAY FORS IN THIS PLAN. WHAT WE HAVE IS PLAIN AND SIMILAR.

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  • 09:31:51 PM

    MR. KEATING

    WE HAVE ENHANCEMENT OF SECURITY FOR OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE WE HAVE A PLAN…

    WE HAVE ENHANCEMENT OF SECURITY FOR OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WORKS AND WILL SAVE LIVES AND HELP US RESOLVE MISSILE DEFENSE ISSUES BY TRACKING THEM VERSUS A PAY-FOR THAT WE LOCATED THAT WAS $400 MILLION OVER BUDGET AND ONLY TOOK 9% OF THAT, LEAVING 91% OF THAT IN TACT. BECAUSE I THINK THIS TRADEOFF ENHANCES OUR SECURITY.

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  • 09:32:17 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. 30 SECONDS.

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  • 09:32:23 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD THE BALANCE OF THE TIME TO MR. TURNER FROM OHIO.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED FOR 30 SECONDS.

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    MR. TURNER

    THE GENTLEMAN STATES THAT HIS AMENDMENT ONLY TAKES 9% FROM MISSILE…

    THE GENTLEMAN STATES THAT HIS AMENDMENT ONLY TAKES 9% FROM MISSILE DEFENSE. THAT'S THE GENTLEMAN STEPPING FORWARD AND SAYING WHAT'S IN HIS AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDENT WON'T TELL US HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO CUT FROM MISSILE DEFENSE AS HE GOES THROUGH THIS ELECTION CYCLE WITH THE SECRET DEAL HE HAS WITH THE RUSSIANS. THE ONE THING WE KNOW, THIS SYSTEM STANDS READY TO DEFEND THE UNITED STATES, IT IS NECESSARY. IRAN AND NORTH KOREA CONTINUE TO INCREASE THEIR THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES. THIS SYSTEM DESERVES OUR FUNDING, IT DESERVES THE FUNDING THAT'S IN THIS BILL. THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE DETEATED -- DEFEATED.

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  • 09:32:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS .

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  • 09:33:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 19 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 09:33:35 PM

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    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

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    THE CLERK

    NUMBER 19 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485.

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    THE CHAIR

    RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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    MR. BROUN

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT WOULD SIMPLY…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY AMENDMENT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT WOULD SIMPLY ALLOW INDIVIDUALS OF ANY AGE TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY SO LONG AS THEY WERE ABLE TO MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE FIT FOR DUTY. UNDER CURRENT LAW ONLY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE 42 YEARS OF AGE OR YOUNGER ARE ALLOWED TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY. THIS SEEMS TO BE AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. AS WE CAN ALL PROBABLY ATTEST, THERE'S SOME 20-YEAR-OLDS THAT CANNOT RUN A MILE. YET THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER OF MIDDLE AGED MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE EXTREMELY PHYSICALLY FIT AND WHO WERE UNABLE TO ENLIST WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER. I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. MR. CHAIRMAN, THEY ARE COMPETITIVE RUNNERS, AND GENERAL FITNESS ENTHUSIASTS. I DARE SAY THEY ARE STRONGER AND FITTER THAN MANY YOUNGER PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE AN ADDED BENEFIT OF LIFE EXPERIENCE AND MATURITY. AND YET WHEN THEY ATTEMPT TO USE THESE SKILLS TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY, THE MILITARY TELLS THEM, WE DON'T WANT YOU. YOU'RE TOO OLD. NOT LONG AGO I HEARD FROM A MAN WHO WAS IN JUST THIS SITUATION. HE'S A COMPETITIVE ULTRAMARATHONER. THE PICTURE OF HEALTH. WHO AFTER STARTING A FAMILY AND ESTABLISHING A CAREER DECIDED HE WAS FINALLY ABLE TO REALIZE HIS DREAM OF SERVING IN MISS COUNTRY'S MILITARY -- IN HIS COUNTRY'S MILITARY. UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS JUST A FEW MONTHS TOO OLD , AS A RESULT HE COULD NOT ENLIST. WHILE STORIES LIKE THIS ARE COMPELLING, THERE ARE OTHER LOST POTENTIALS TO CONSIDER ALSO. ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES, MY GOOD FRIEND, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MY HOME STATE OF GEORGIA DR. FILL GINGREY, HAS EXPERIENCED A -- DR. PHIL GINGREY, HAS EXPERIENCED A SIMILAR ISSUE. HE'S NOT TRYING TO SERVE IN COMBAT. HE'S NOT TRYING TO GET A MILITARY RETIREMENT. HE SIMPLY WANTS TO SERVE HIS COUNTRY USING HIS TRAINING AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR. HE WENT TO ENLIST IN THE NAVY RESERVE AND TO HIS SURPRISE HE WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS TOO OLD. EVEN AS A NEED FOR GOOD MEDICAL DOCTORS IN THE MILITARY RANKS CONTINUES TO GROW. WE SHOULD ALLOW PEOPLE LIKE DR. GINGREY TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY. MY AMENDMENT WOULD DO JUST THAT. WE'LL HEAR A NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON THE FLOOR TODAY WHO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE MULTIPLE TOURS THAT SO MANY OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HAVE HAD TO SERVE. OFTEN BACK TO BACK OVER MANY YEARS. I SHARE THIS CONCERN. AND I BELIEVE THAT IF WE WERE TO LIFT THIS AGE RESTRICTION WE COULD OPEN UP THE MILITARY TO NEW POPULATION OF STRONG, CAPABLE INDIVIDUALS WHO IN MANY CASES HAVE FINISHED THEIR EDUCATION AND THEIR CAREERS AND HAVE SEEN THEIR CHILDREN GROW INTO ADULTHOOD. MANY OF THEM AREN'T SEEKING MILITARY RETIREMENT, BUT RATHER HAVE ADVANCED IN THEIR CAREERS, PUT AWAY ENOUGH FOR RETIREMENT AND ARE READY FOR A NEW CHALLENGE. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:36:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 09:37:05 PM

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    I CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. AND USE SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.

  • 09:37:09 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY…

    THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM GEORGIA, MR. BROUN. I UNDERSTAND HIS BELIEF, THAT ANYONE WHO QUALIFIES, REGARDLESS OF AGE, SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE. HOWEVER SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY IS A DIFFICULT AND A CHALLENGING PER FEGS, ESPECIALLY AS ONE GETS OLDER IN YEARS -- PER FEGS, ESPECIALLY AS ONE -- PROFESSION, ESPECIALLY AS ONE GETS OLDER IN YEARS.

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  • 09:37:37 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    ALL HAVE RESTRICTED ENLISTMENTS TO A LESSER AGE WITH THE ARMY AT A MAXIMUM…

    ALL HAVE RESTRICTED ENLISTMENTS TO A LESSER AGE WITH THE ARMY AT A MAXIMUM AGE OF 35. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE CURRENTLY DRAWING DOWN THE FORCE AND RECRUITING CONDITIONS DO NOT REQUIRE THIS PROPOSAL. EVEN DURING THE MOST DIFFICULT RECRUITING ENVIRONMENT AT THE PEAK OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY, ONLY THE ARMY EXIR SIZED THE AUTHORITY AND -- EXERCISED THE AUTHORITY AND RAISED ITS AGE LIMIT TO 42. THIS POLICY WAS ONLY IN PLACE FOR A FEW YEARS AND THE ARMY HAS SINCE REINSTATED ITS OLD POLICY OF A MAXIMUM OF 35 YEARS OF AGE. BECAUSE THE RISKS AND THE CHALLENGES OF TRAINING OLDER RECRUITS OUTWEIGH THE MINIMAL GAIN. WHAT THE ARMY FOUND WAS THAT OLDER LEVEL RECRUITS TEND TO HAVE GREATER HEALTH AND PHYSICAL AILMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN DEPLOYED AND ONCE INJURED THESE INDIVIDUALS FACE A LONGER PERIOD OF RECOUP RATION. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS -- RECUPERATION. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT NEEDED AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO RECRUITING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN INTO THE FORCES. I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:38:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 09:38:48 PM

    MR. BROUN

    MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT?

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    THE CHAIR

    TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. BROUN

    66 YEARS OF AGE. I'M IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY RESERVE TODAY. AN ACTIVE…

    66 YEARS OF AGE. I'M IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY RESERVE TODAY. AN ACTIVE RESERVIST AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR. GENERAL MEDICAL OFFICER. THERE ARE MANY RESERVISTS NOT ONLY IN THE NAVY BUT IN OTHER BRANCHES OF THE SERVICE THAT ARE BEYOND 42 YEARS OF AGE. WE HAVE CRITICAL NEED FOR DOCTORS, LAWYERS, VETERINARIANS, DENTISTS, OTHER SPECIALTIES IN OUR MILITARY. EVEN AS WE TURN DOWN THE SIZE OF OUR FORCES. AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE, WHO ARE PHYSICALLY FIT, WHO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. THAT'S ALL THIS AMENDMENT DOES. IT DOES NOT WEIGH -- WAIVE ANY PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS, IT DOES NOT WAIVE ANYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY FOR SOMEONE TO ENLIST. IT'S JUST GOING TO UTILIZE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF SERVING TO ALLOW THEM TO DO SO. AND NOT DOING SO IS ACTUALLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE CELEBRATED A FEW BIRTHDAYS. I MENTIONED IN MY FIRST COMMENTS ABOUT AN ULTRAMARATHONER THAT THE MILITARY ACTUALLY WANTED BUT BECAUSE -- THIS GUY WAS IN BETTER SHAPE THAN MOST PEOPLE AFTER THEY LEAVE BOOT CAMP THAT ARE IN THEIR 20'S. THE ARMY WANTED HIM. BUT BECAUSE HE WAS JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS TOO OLD THEY WOULD NOT -- THE LAW WOULD NOT ALLOW HIM TO ENLIST. SO, HE WOULD HAVE SERVED THIS NATION VERY ADMIRABLY. WANTED TO SERVE. WAS PHYSICALLY FIT. WAS CAPABLE OF DOING ANYTHING THAT A 20-YEAR-OLD IS CAPABLE OF DOING TODAY AND MY AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW HIM AS WELL AS DR. GINGREY TO SERVE. AND DR. GINGREY IS IN GOOD PHYSICAL CONDITION. HE JUST WANTS TO GO UTILIZE HIS MEDICAL EXPERIENCE. AND PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO SO ALSO. SO I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE FOR MY AMENDMENT AND ACCEPT THIS.

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  • 09:41:02 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 09:41:08 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MR. WILSON OF SOUTH…

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MR. WILSON OF SOUTH CAROLINA.

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  • 09:41:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. WILSON

    RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.…

    RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. AS A 31-YEAR VETERAN OF THE ARMY RESERVES AND NATIONAL GUARD, I AM FULLY -- I FULLY APPRECIATE THE NEED OFAGE LIMITATION. WHAT WE ASK OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN TO DO IS NOTHING SHORT OF INCREDIBLE. THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL TOUGHNESS THAT IS INSTILLED IN THEM AS THEY ENLIST IS SOMETHING THAT BECOMES MORE CHALLENGING OVER TIME. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND I APPLAUD THOSE WHO MAINTAIN A HIGH LEVEL OF PHYSICAL FITNESS AND DESIRE TO SERVE THEIR CRIMINAL -- COUNTRY. BUT THAT IS ONLY ONE REQUIREMENT THAT THE MILITARY PROVIDES. I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT AGE LIMITATION WILL EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNGER SERVICE MEMBERS TO SERVE IN COMMAND POSITIONS. I URGE DEFEAT OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:42:06 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 09:42:10 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    YOU. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO DR. HECK WHO IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR IN THE ARMY…

    YOU. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO DR. HECK WHO IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR IN THE ARMY RESERVE AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE PERSONE -- PERSONNEL COMMITTEE.

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  • 09:42:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEVADA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 09:42:21 PM

    MR. HECK

    I TOO RISE HAD OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I AM ALSO AN ACTIVE RESERVIST…

    I TOO RISE HAD OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I AM ALSO AN ACTIVE RESERVIST AND A PHYSICIAN IN MILITARY. WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE NOW HAVE AN ALL-VOLUNTEER FORCE, INDEED WE ARE BLESSED THAT WE HAVE SUCH CAPABLE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT ON THE UNIFORM. BUT AS WE START TO HAVE A DRAWDOWN, AS WE START TO GO THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO ARE THE MOST BRIGHTEST, MOST CAPABLE AND FITTEST FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME. BEING A PHYSICIAN IN THE RESERVES IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN ENLISTING IN THE ACTIVE DUTY FORCE. AND GOING THROUGH INITIAL ENTRY TRAINING, MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY TRAINING, IS A VERY RIGOROUS COURSE OF INSTRUCTION. AS A PHYSICIAN I HAVE CONCERNS, I THINK THAT WHILE WELL INTENDED THE SECRETARIES ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT WAIVERS FOR EXIDGENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHEN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT REQUIRED. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:43:13 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 09:43:16 PM

    MRS. DAVIS

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 09:43:18 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON…

    THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HER TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE. IT THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED.

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  • 09:43:32 PM

    MR. BROUN

    RECORDED VOTE, FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

  • 09:43:34 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT…

    PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 09:43:59 PM

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    CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CARSON…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CARSON OF INDIANA.

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  • 09:44:10 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. CARSON, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. CARSON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED WILL EACH CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 09:44:23 PM

    MR. CARSON

    MY AMENDMENT WHICH C.B.O. HAS DETERMINED WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON DIRECT…

    MY AMENDMENT WHICH C.B.O. HAS DETERMINED WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON DIRECT SPENDING OR APPROPRIATIONS SEEKS TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT I BELIEVE IS PREVENTING MANY OF TODAY'S SERVICE MEMBERS FROM PURSUING MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION TREATMENT THAT THEY SO DESPERATELY NEED. QUITE SIMPLY, IT PREVENTS PROMOTION BOARDS FROM CONSIDERING ANY OTHER SOURCE OF INFORMATION FROM OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS, WORD OF MOUTH, ANY SOURCE ABOUT THE PURSUIT OF TREATMENT FOR MENTAL HEALTH OR ADDICTION ISSUES. THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES NECESSARY EXCEPTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DETERMINED BY A PHYSICIAN TO BE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, WOULD BE UNABLE -- WOULD BE UNABLE OR UNFIT TO ACCOMPLISH THE DUTIES OF HIGHER RANK OR IF THEY GIVE CONSENT TO CONSIDERATION FOR SUCH INFORMATION. AND LASTLY I BELIEVE MOST IMPORTANTLY THE AMENDMENT REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO INFORM ON CURRENT SERVICE MEMBERS ABOUT THESE PROHIBITIONS. AS WE ALL KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES LIKE PTSD AND DEPRESSION ARE THE SIGNATURE WOUNDS OF OUR WARS IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ. . NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ENTERED THESE WARS WITH AN OUTDATED MILITARY CULTURE THAT STIGMA ADVERTISE THESE ISSUES AND OFTEN SAY TREATMENT IS WITH WEAKNESS. I APPLAUD THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR THEIR EFFORTS. YET, I STILL HEAR FROM SERVICE MEMBERS, WHO ARE AFRAID THAT PURSUING MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR PROSPECTS FOR PROMOTION AND OTHERS WERE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A PERVASIVE PROBLEM IN THE RANKS THAT MANY SERVICE MEMBERS BELIEVE THIS. THESE SERVICE MEMBERS ARE DEDICATED TO THEIR JOBS AND DETERMINED TO PUT PROGRESS IN THEIR CAREERS. SO NOT SURPRISINGLY, THEY HESITATE IN PURSUING TREATMENT. NOW, OF COURSE, I UNDERSTAND THAT HIPAA PREVENTS MEDICAL RECORDS FROM BEING CONSIDERED, INCLUDING THOSE ON MENTAL HEALTH, WITH GOOD REASON. BUT WE NEED TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THE FIERCE OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS DO NOT COME TO PASS IN OTHER WAYS. WE NEED TO MAKE EXPLICIT THAT PROMOTION BOARDS ARE NOT ONLY PREVENTED FROM CONSIDERING MEDICAL RECORDS BUT INFORMATION ON TREATMENT RECEIVED BY WORD OF MOUTH FROM PERSONNEL FILES OR OTHER FORUMS. THIS WILL REFLECT OUR MODERATE UNDERSTANDING OF MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION ISSUES, THAT THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AND NOT IGNORED AND INDIVIDUALS CAN OVERCOME THEM. I BELIEVE MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS AMENDMENT, THE REASON I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING IT IS THAT WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT OUR SERVICE MEMBERS KNOW AND ARE FULLY AWARE ABOUT THESE PROHIBITIONS. NOW, SO MAY ARGUE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT CLAIMING THAT IT PERPETRATES A MYTH, THAT, IN FACT, TREATMENT INFORMATION IS NOT CONSIDERED. THEIR ARGUMENT PERFECTLY ILLUSTRATES WHY THIS AMENDMENT IS SO NECESSARY, BECAUSE MANY SERVICE MEMBERS BELIEVE THEY WILL BE PENALIZED FOR PURSUING TREATMENT. AND AS LONG AS THIS IS TRUE, WE WILL STILL HAVE OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN SUFFER IN SILENCE. WITH SCREENING AND COUNSELING, THEY COULD GET HEALTHY. THEY COULD PERFORM THEIR DUTIES AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL, AND THEY COULD AVOID FALLING INTO THE TRAPS OF ADDICTION, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HOMELESSNESS THAT AWAITS MOST OF OUR VETERANS WHEN THEY RETURN HOME. MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ASSIGNED TO THE PROMOTION BOARD HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE MILITARY AT HEART AND I BELIEVE THEY DO THEIR JOB QUITE WELL. THE QUALITY OF OUR RANKS PROVES JUST THAT. I WANT TO BE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE STIGMA ON MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT UNTIL ALL SERVICE MEMBERS ARE COMFORTABLE PURSUING THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED. I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU. AND I HOPE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:49:29 PM

    THE CHAIR

    JARKS. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES -- THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT…

    JARKS. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES -- THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 09:49:38 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE…

    TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.

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  • 09:49:47 PM

    MR. WILSON

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA. I…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA. I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT INTRUDES ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMANDERS TO ASSESS THE PROMOTION OF SERVICE MEMBERS UNDER THEIR COMMAND. AS A FORMER PRESIDENT MYSELF OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION, I APPRECIATE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THIS PREVENTS -- THIS CARRIES NO IMPLICATIONS FOR PERFORMANCE AND PERFORMANCE QUALIFICATION. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE OUR COMMAND IRIS TO WITHHOLD BEHAVIOR THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH PROMOTION. I'M CONCERNED WITH IT IS ETHICAL TO DEMAND OUR COMMANDERS TO IGNORE SUCH INFORMATION THAT THEY SEE AS A RISK TO FORCE READINESS. A COMMANDER MUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING PROMOTION ELTGIBBLET. ONCE AWARE OF FACTS THAT WOULD CAUSE A COMMANDER TO QUESTION, IT WOULD SEEM IMPOSSIBLE FOR A COMMANDER TO RENDER A RECOMMENDATION THAT SUPPORTS THE MEMBER'S PROMOTION. IT IS UNFAIR TO ASK OUR COMMANDERS TO BE DISINGENUOUS. THE RISK WOULD ROUTINELY ELIMINATE FACTORS THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE PROMOTION OF UNQUALIFIED MEMBERS OVER MORE DESERVING MEMBERS. THIS REPLACES THE COMMANDER'S JUDGMENT WITH AN ARTIFICIAL STANDARD THAT CANNOT ACCOUNT FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF CASES. THE ROLE OF COMMANDERS IS PIVOTAL. THE NATION INVESTS IMMENSE TRUST IN OUR MILITARY COMMANDERS IN THE MOST CHALLENGING OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE MUST NOT LIMIT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHOOSE FUTURE LEADERS PRESIDENT DON'T TIE THE HANDS OF OUR COMMANDERS AS THEY ASSESS FITNESS FOR PROMOTION. PLEASE DEFEAT THIS AMENDMENT. I URGE DEFEAT OF THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 09:51:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 09:51:57 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

  • 09:52:04 PM

    MR. HUNTER

    MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. AS A UNITED STATES MARINE, I…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. AS A UNITED STATES MARINE, I FILLED OUT DOZENS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME I RECOMMENDED FOR PROMOTIONS AND OTHERS I DID NOT. THIS AMENDMENT MUST BE OPPOSED BECAUSE IT WOULD DISRUPT THE VITAL ROLE THAT COMMANDERS PLAY IN THE PROMOTION PROCESS. THEY MAKE DECISIONS TO PROMOTE THE MOST QUALIFIED DECISIONS. IT IS NOT ETHICAL TO OVERLOOK INFORMATION THAT BEARS ON THE MEMBER'S QUALIFICATIONS. COMMANDERS STRIVE TO BE FAIR AND CURRENT POLICIES PREVENT PREJUDICIAL DECISIONS. THE THIS WILL REPLACE THE COMMANDER'S DECISION THAT CANNOT ACCOUNT FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF CASES. THE NATION INVESTS IMMENSE TRUST IN OUR MILITARY COMMANDERS IN THE MOST CHALLENGING OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHILE LEADING MARINES AND SOLDIERS IN COMBAT. I URGE DEFEAT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:53:15 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TIME DO WE HAVE LEFT?

  • 09:53:19 PM

    THE CHAIR

    MINUTES. THE THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • 09:53:29 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    OF OUR TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEVADA, MR. HECK.

  • 09:53:40 PM

    MR. HECK

    GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA'S AMENDMENT AND I APPLAUD HIS INTENT OF TRYING TO…

    GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA'S AMENDMENT AND I APPLAUD HIS INTENT OF TRYING TO REMOVE THE STIGMA. AS A PHYSICIAN IN THE ARMY RESERVES, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ISSUES THAT HE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE THIS EVENING. BUT I ALSO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUES REGARDING THE IMPACT ON THE COMMANDER'S ABILITY TO MAKE A TRUTHFUL AND HONEST RECOMMENDATION FOR PROMOTION. HAVING HAD THE HONOR TO COMMAND AND SERVE ON PROMOTION BOARDS, I KNOW THIS INFORMATION IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S HARD TO DRAW THE DISTINCTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE USING THE INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE BEHAVIOR THAT PERSON DEMONSTRATED THAT THAT PERSON CAUSED THEM TO SEEK THE CARE. WHEN A PHYSICAL PROFILE IS INCLUDED IN THE PAKISTAN THAT SHOWS THERE IS A DUTY RESTRICTION, IT COULD BE FOR A PHYSICAL OR PSYCHIATRIC DISTURBANCE. THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHETHER THAT PERSON IS FIT FOR PROMOTION. I APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUE'S INTENT BUT THE ANSWER TO THIS IS BETTER EDUCATION OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS TO RID OURSELVES OF THIS PERVASIVE MISCONCEPTION THAN TRYING TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

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  • 09:54:59 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

  • 09:55:05 PM

    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.

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    THE DESK.

  • 09:56:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. WITTMAN AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MR. WITTMAN AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 09:56:24 PM

    MR. WITTMAN

    AT ARLINGTON CEMETERY AND THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS IN FIXING THAT SYSTEM.…

    AT ARLINGTON CEMETERY AND THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS IN FIXING THAT SYSTEM. MY CONCERN IS NOT WITH THE LEADERS THAT HAVE TURNED ARLINGTON TO TURN AROUND AND MAKE ENSURE THAT OUR FALLEN LEADERS ARE TREATED WITH THE RESPECT AND HONOR THEY DESERVE. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE SCANDALS AND EMBARRASSMENT THAT ROCKED ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY WENT LARGELY UNPROSECUTED FOR ONE REASON. NO ONE OF THE FORMER CIVILIAN DIRECTORS IN THE FORMER CHAIN OF COMMAND AT ARLINGTON WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS IN THEIR GROSS MISMANAGEMENT BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WERE SUBJECT TO THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. ARLINGTON IS MANAGED BY THE ARMY AND A JOINT MILITARY BASE. THEY WORK ON THAT BASE DAILY. WITH THAT, I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A MILITARY LEADER NOW IN CHARGE OF ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY. WITH THAT, I RESERB THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 09:57:33 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE…

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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  • 09:57:38 PM

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    RELUCTANTLY OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MIGHT…

    RELUCTANTLY OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MIGHT CONSUME.

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  • 09:57:47 PM

    MR. MILLER

    JUNE, 2010, THE FORMER MEMBER OF THIS BODY, JOHN MCHUGH, APPOINTED A…

    JUNE, 2010, THE FORMER MEMBER OF THIS BODY, JOHN MCHUGH, APPOINTED A FORMER HIGH RANKING SENIOR OFFICIAL WITH A STRONG MGMANT BACKGROUND AS THE FIRST EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ARMY NATIONAL CEMETERY'S PROGRAM. THERE IS EVERY INDICATION SHE IS WELL QUALIFIED AND SUITED FOR THE POST. THE ARMY CREATED THE NEW POST TO OVERSEE ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY AS A RESULT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, MR. WITTMAN. THE ARMY DID NOT, DID NOT STATE IN A THAT THE NEWLY CREATED EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHOULD BE FILLED BY A MILITARY OFFICIAL AND HASN'T PROVIDED ANY RATIONALE WHILE A MILITARY OFFICIAL WOULD BE BETTER SUITED RATHER THAN A CIVILIAN. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ESTABLISH THE MILITARY CHAIN OF COMMAND REQUIRING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BE A COMMISSIONED OFFICER REPLACING THE CURRENT CIVILIAN IN THAT POSITION. OVERSIGHT OF THE CEMETERY PROGRAM REMAINS STRONG BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT SHE REPORTS DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY TO THE SECRETARY OF THE ARMY. THERE IS EVERY INDICATION TODAY THAT SHE HAS PERFORMED HER DUTIES IN A COMPETENT AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPORT SHOWS THAT SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS AT ARLINGTON HAS BEEN MADE UNDER HER LEADERSHIP. HER STATUS AS A CIVILIAN DOES NOT AFFECT THE OVERALL AUTHORITY OF THE ARMY OVER THE PROGRAM OR ANY ASPECT OF THE OPERATIONS UNDER HER CARE. I NOTE THAT THE SECRETARY OF THE ARMY, SECRETARY MCHUGH, WROTE A STRONG LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT, FOR THE REASONS THAT I HAVE JUST ADDRESSED. AND I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND RESERVE.

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  • 09:59:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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  • 09:59:46 PM

    MR. WITTMAN

    YIELD 1 1/2 MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. WEST.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR 1 1/2 MINUTES.

  • 09:59:59 PM

    MR. WEST

    THIS AMENDMENT, HAVING SPENT TIME IN THE MILITARY WE WERE TAUGHT BASIC…

    THIS AMENDMENT, HAVING SPENT TIME IN THE MILITARY WE WERE TAUGHT BASIC PRINCIPLES AND A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE UNITY OF COMMAND AND UNITY OF EFFORT. I WILL NOT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE CIVILIAN POSITION, BUT THIS IS THE ARMY NATIONAL CEMETERY AND IT BEING THE ARMY NATIONAL CEMETERY, I FEEL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE MILITARY DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON. THE SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE MILITARY DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON IS SOMEONE I SERVED WITH AT FOR THE BRAG IN NORTH CAROLINA AND WE UNDERSTAND CHAIN OF COMMAND AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND I TALKED TO HIM AND HE FEELS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY WELL APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MILITARY COMMISSIONED OFFICER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ARSENALS, OUR ARSENALS HAVE STRONG CIVILIAN LEADERSHIP AND STRONG CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, BUT YET WE HAVE A MILITARY COMMANDER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THE ARTERIAL COMMAND WHICH IS 60% TO 70% BUT WE HAVE A FOUR-STAR GENERAL, WHO I KNOW WELL, IS IN CHARGE OF THAT ORGANIZATION. SO I THINK IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF UNITY OF COMMAND AND EFFORT IN PLACE WE NEED TO HAVE A UNIFORMED MILITARY PERSON THAT IS IN CONTROL OF THIS AND IN COMMAND OF THIS ARMY NATIONAL CEMETERY. THANK YOU. AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:01:28 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. . . THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. . . THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED

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  • 10:01:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA VOICED.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA.

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  • 10:01:42 PM

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    I'D LIKE TO YIELD A MINUTE AND A HALF TO MY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE FROM…

    I'D LIKE TO YIELD A MINUTE AND A HALF TO MY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, MR. HUNTER.

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  • 10:01:46 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE AND A HALF.

  • 10:01:50 PM

    MR. HUNTER

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND THE GENTLEMAN…

    YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA. I'D LIKE TO START BY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME. THIS IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY. ALL OF THESE LEADERSHIP THEMES ARE WELL DEFINED THROUGHOUT THE UNIFORMED CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. BUT A CIVILIAN TEAM DOES NOT PROTECT THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY. THAT'S THE THIRD UNITED STATES INFANTRY REGIMENT THAT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO HONOR OUR FALLEN COMRADES AND CONDUCT CEREMONIES AND SPECIAL EVENTS TO REPRESENT THE U.S. ARMY. ONE OF THE MOST KNOWN TASKS OF THIS UNIT IS THE DISTINGUISHED CHARGE OF GUARDING THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY WHICH IT HAS DONE WITH HONOR SINCE JULY OF 1937. AGAIN, THIS IS A MILITARY UNIT, IT'S NOT A CIVILIAN UNIT. MANY OF OUR FALLEN HEROES WHO WAS KILLED IN ACTION CHOSE TO BE BURIED IN ARLINGTON, HOME TO OUR NATION'S MILITARY HISTORY, THE MEN AND WHIM -- WOMEN WHO SACRIFICED TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS TODAY. THE CURRENT COMMAND OF THE ARMY HAS A CIVILIAN DIRECTIVE -- EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORTING TO THE SECRETARY OF THE ARMY. NOWHERE IN THE CURRENT CHAIN OF COMMAND IS THERE A UNIFORM MILITARY OFFICER OF APPROPRIATE RANK WITH COMMAND AUTHORITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. IF WE ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE MAJOR NATIONAL CEMETERY THAT IS RUN BY A BRANCH OF THE D.O.D., THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A UNIFORM CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT RUNS THE CEMETERY IN A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY MANNER. AND IN CLOSING, I WOULD STATE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT THEY CHOOSE TO BE BURIED AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY AND I WOULD URGE ADOPTION -- ADOPTION OF THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:03:37 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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    THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT IF HE HAS ANY MORE SPEAKERS?

  • 10:03:48 PM

    MR. WITTMAN

    HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE?

  • 10:03:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THEN I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

  • 10:04:01 PM

    MR. WITTMAN

    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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    MR. WITTMAN

    THANK YOU. AS YOU'VE HEARD THIS ISSUE IS REALLY ABOUT THIS. IT'S ABOUT…

    THANK YOU. AS YOU'VE HEARD THIS ISSUE IS REALLY ABOUT THIS. IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT THERE'S RESPONSIBILITY AT THIS NATION'S MOST DISTINGUISHED RESTING PLACE, WHERE OUR HEROES THAT HAVE DEFENDED THIS NATION GO FOR THEIR FINAL RESTING PLACE. IF WE PUT A UNIFORMED OFFICER IN COMMAND OF ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, THEN THAT OFFICER WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE EXACT SAME STANDARDS AS THE HEROES BURY AT ARLINGTON ONCE WERE. THAT IS THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE. THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR ALL-VOLUNTEER FORCE WHO FALL IN COMBAT AND THOSE WHO SERVE AND WHO CHOOSE TO BE BURIED AT ARLINGTON DESERVE THE HONOR OF HAVING A UNIFORMED COMMANDING OFFICER TO WATCH OVER THEM AS THEY REST, TO SET AND ENFORCE A STANDARD OF MILITARY EXCELLENCE AND COMMITMENT, HONOR AND INTEGRITY THAT ONLY THOSE SERVING IN UNIFORM CAN FULLY COMPREHEND. FOLKS, THESE ARE OUR NATION'S HEROES. WE OWE THEM NOTHING LESS. ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD THERE AT ARLINGTON. SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, TO PUT BACK IN PLACE THE DISTINCTION AND THE HONOR DESERVED BY OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE SERVED HONORABLY.

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  • 10:05:23 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE…

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 10:05:54 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    26 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. CUMMINGS OF MARYLAND.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR. CUMMINGS, AND A…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR. CUMMINGS, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND.

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  • 10:06:11 PM

    MR. CUMMINGS

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M HONORED TODAY TO BE JOINED BY THE…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M HONORED TODAY TO BE JOINED BY THE RANKING MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS AND THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES IN OFFERING AN AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE URGENTLY NEEDED HELP TO SERVICE MEMBERS, VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WHEN CONGRESS PASSED SERVICE MEMBERS CIVIL RELIEF ACT, ONE OF ITS MANY GOALS WAS TO PROTECT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM FROM BEING FORECLOSED UPON WHILE THEY ARE ON ACTIVE DUTY, SERVING OUR NATION ABROAD. UNDER CURRENT LAW SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS IN THE ACT ARE SCHEDULED TO SUN SET AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. UNLESS CONGRESS ACTS NOW. OUR SERVICE MEMBERS COULD BE PLACED AT GREATER RISK. OUR AMENDMENT FIXES THAT BY ELIMINATING THE SUN SET PROVISION AND ENSURING THAT FORECLOSURE PROTECTIONS ARE EXTENDED FOR 12 MONTHS. IN ADDITION OUR AMENDMENT ENSURES THAT SOLDIERS SERVING IN CONTINGENCY OPERATIONS DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LOSING THEIR HOMES REGARDLESS OF WHEN THEY WERE PURCHASED. OUR AMENDMENT ALSO EXTENDS FORECLOSURE PROTECTIONS TO SURVIVING SPOUSES OF SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ARE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. OUR AMENDMENT EXTENDS FORECLOSURE PROTECTIONS TO VETERANS WHO ARE 100% DISABLED AT THE TIME OF DISCHARGES DUE TO INJURIES THEY RECEIVED DURING THEIR SERVICE. FINALLY THE AMENDMENT PROHIBITS BANKS FROM DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SERVICE MEMBERS COVERED BY THE ACT AND IT INCREASES PENALTIES AGAINST BANKS TO DETER FUTURE VIOLATIONS. WE CRAFTED THIS AMENDMENT AFTER MORE THAN A YEAR OF INVESTIGATING CASES IN WHICH SERVICE MEMBERS SUFFERED ILLEGAL FORECLOSURES. WE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM THESE SERVICE MEMBERS, VETERANS, BANKS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AT MULTIPLE HEARINGS AND FORUMS IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE. I ALSO ISSUED A STAFF REPORT DETAILING HOW SEVERAL MORTGAGE SERVICING COMPANIES HAVE NOW CONCEDED THAT THEY VIOLATED THE ACT. FRANKLY THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER. EVERY MEMBER OF THIS CHAMBER SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE THAT OUR TROOPS FIGHTING OVERSEAS SHOULD NOT ALSO HAVE TO FIGHT HERE AT HOME JUST TO KEEP A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS AND THE HEADS OF THEIR FAMILIES. OUR AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION, THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS, PARALYZED VETERANS OF AMERICA AND DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS, ALL OF WHOM HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS OF SUPPORT. WE OWE IT TO TAKE ACTION NOW AND THIS PROVIDES COMMONSENSE PROTECTIONS TO THOSE WHO DESERVE THE MOST. I ASK THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:08:41 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT…

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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  • 10:08:48 PM

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    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    OPPOSITION BUT NOT IN STRONG OPPOSITION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT THE…

    OPPOSITION BUT NOT IN STRONG OPPOSITION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND IS ATTEMPTING TO DO.

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  • 10:09:05 PM

    MR. MILLER

    NEED TO OPPOSE IT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST, THE SERVICE MEMBERS CIVIL…

    NEED TO OPPOSE IT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST, THE SERVICE MEMBERS CIVIL RELIEF ACT IS DESIGNED TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF A SERVICE MEMBER AND THEIR CIVILIAN OBLIGATIONS AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY IN THIS BODY WOULD EVER DO SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE LIFE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM. THE CHANGES TO THIS MADE BY THIS AMENDMENT ARE WORTHY OF VETTING UNDER REGULAR ORDER THROUGH THE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS. CURRENTLY A REAL ESTATE -- REAL ESTATE PROTECTIONS APPLY TO PURCHASES MADE BEFORE BEING CALLED TO ACTIVE DUTY. HOWEVER SECTION A-3 OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD EXTEND COVERAGE TO REAL ESTATE PURCHASED AT ANY TIME, INCLUDING WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT SECTION ALONE MAKES A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO A PROVISION THAT IS OVER 70 YEARS OLD. AND WHILE I DON'T NECESSARILY OPPOSE SUCH AN EXTENSION, WE NEED TO GET THE VIEWS OF THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE V.A. AND THE HOME MORTGAGE INDUSTRY. SECONDLY, AS WRITTEN SOME PROVISIONS ARE OPEN TO VERY WIDE INTERPRETATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A PROVISION THAT PROVIDES A 12-MONTH PROTECTION FROM FORECLOSURE TO THOSE WHO ARE SEPARATED OR RETIRED BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY AND RATED BY V.A. AS PERMANENTLY AND TOTALLY DISABLED. SINCE IT'S VERY RARE THAT A SERVICE MEMBER WOULD ACTUALLY LEAVE THE MILITARY WITH A 100% RATING FROM THE V.A. AND THE V.A. ADJUDICATION PROCESS AS MOST OF US KNOW CAN TAKE MONTHS IF NOT YEARS IN SOME CASES, HOW WOULD THIS PROVISION BE IMPLEMENTED? AND THAT IS LEFT UNCLEAR IN THIS AMENDMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD A BANK BE REQUIRED TO GIVE BACK A FORECLOSURED HOME IF THE VETERAN WAS FOUND SEVERAL YEARS LATER TO BE RATED AS TOTALLY AND PERM NEPNEPTLY DISABLED -- PERMANENTLY DISABLED? THE AMENDMENT ALSO CONTAINS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING CS -- SCRA PROVISIONS AND WHILE I DON'T NECESSARILY OPPOSE THE CHANGE, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE LEGAL COMMUNITY ON THESE PROVISIONS. WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:11:16 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.

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    MR. CUMMINGS

    I YIELD -- FIRST OF ALL, MAY I INQUIRE HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN?

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    THE CHAIR

    ON BOTH SIDES HAVE 2 1/2 MINUTES.

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    MR. CUMMINGS

    MINUTE AND A HALF TO THE CHAIRMAN.

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    CHAIRMAN. I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT.

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    MR. SMITH

    I THINK MR. MILLER RAISES SOME JUSTIFIABLE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE…

    I THINK MR. MILLER RAISES SOME JUSTIFIABLE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER AS WE GO FORWARD. I BELIEVE WE'D BE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT IN CONFERENCE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BUT THE BIGGEST REASON TO PASS THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE FIRST THING IT DOES AND THAT EXTENDS THE CURRENT LAW THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE FOR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ARE DEPLOYED, NOT BEING FORECLOSURED. WE HAVE PASSED IT IN THIS CHAMBER, HAVE NOT PASSED IT IN THE SENATE. IF WE PUT THIS INTO THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZING BILL, IT GIVES US ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, OTHERS IN CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THIS PASSES WITHOUT BEING SUN SETTED. AND IN THE OTHER PROVISIONS I THINK ARE WORTHY EXPANSIONS OF THE PROTECTION. NOW, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, IT DOESN'T EXPAND IT FOREVER. SO THAT SOMEONE IS 100% SERVICE DISABLED WOULD NEVER BE FORECLOSURED UPON. IT MERELY GIVES THE JUDGE GREATER DISCRETION TO PROHIBIT THAT FORECLOSURE AS LONG AS JUSTICE WOULD REQUIRE WHICH I THINK IS GOOD PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE 100% SERVICE DISABLED, FOR SURVIVING SPOUSES AND FOR THE OTHERS WHO ARE ADDED TO THIS. THERE IS COST TO FURTHER VET THIS. I WORK WITH THE MAJORITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO DO THAT BUT I THINK THE AMENDMENT IS WORTHY OF SUPPORT BECAUSE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS. THANK YOU.

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  • 10:12:42 PM

    MR. CUMMINGS

    I CONTINUE TO RESERVE.

  • 10:12:45 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA RISE?

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    MR. MILLER

    MUCH. THIS IS BOTTLED UP IN THE SENATE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS PASSED THE…

    MUCH. THIS IS BOTTLED UP IN THE SENATE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS PASSED THE HOUSE IN REGARDS TO THE EXTENDING OF THE SUN SET PROVISIONS OF THE SCRA. I WOULD SAY THAT, TO CONFIRM OUR CONCERNS, MY STAFF ACTUALLY TALKED WITH AN EXPERT ON SCRA WHO WAS THE AUTHOR OF THE 2003 MAJOR REVISIONS AND HERE WERE SOME OF HIS CONCERNS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT MANDATES THAT A DEPLOYED SERVICE MEMBER GIVE NOTICE TO THEIR DEPLOYMENT, TO THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, WITHOUT THIS INFORMATION HOW WILL THE INSTITUTION KNOW THAT THE SERVICE MEMBER IS NOW COVERED BY THESE NEW PROTECTIONS UNDER SCRA? THE CURRENT WEBSITE THAT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS USE TO SEE IF SOMEBODY IS ON ACTIVE DUTY DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN DEPLOYED AND NONDEPLOYED. THEREBY MAKING IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION TO KEEP TRACK. WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE DURATION OF THE PROTECTIONS FOR THE SURVIVING SPOUSE, WHICH IS SOMETHING MR. SMITH JUST BROUGHT UP, AND A DISABLED VETERAN? INDEFINITELY? HE SAYS NO. BUT WILL INSTITUTIONS BE DISCOURAGED FROM MAKING LOANS TO SERVICE MEMBERS BECAUSE OF THIS POTENTIAL PROBLEM? IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD EXPAND THIS PROTECTION TO MORTGAGES, WHY NOT EXTEND THE PROTECTIONS TO OTHER AREAS? THESE ARE THE TYPE OF COMPLEX QUESTIONS THAT REALLY SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT AND REVIEWED BY EXPERTS ON THIS AREA UNDER REGULAR ORDER, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE COMMITTEES IN THIS PROCESS. WITH THAT I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:14:15 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 10:14:20 PM

    MR. CUMMINGS

    MR. CHAIRMAN. IN REFERENCE TO THE ARGUMENT ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT AND…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. IN REFERENCE TO THE ARGUMENT ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT AND NOTICE, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS A LONGSTANDING DATABASE IN PLACE THAT LENDERS CURRENTLY UTILIZE TO ACCESS THIS INFORMATION AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT WITH REGARD TO THAT. THE QUESTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN RAISES, MR. MILLER, AND IT'S A VERY GOOD ONE WITH REGARD TO THE 100% DISABILITY, THE AMENDMENT I'VE OFFERED DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE RATED 100% DISABLED AFTER MULTIPLE APPEALS. IT'S ONLY -- IT ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE RATED 100% DISABLED AT THE TIME OF DISCHARGE. YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE SO MANY PEOPLE -- IF THE GENTLEMAN WILL YIELD?

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    BY THEM. D.O.D. MAKES A RATING AND IT SAYS V.A. AND THAT IS A PROBLEM…

    BY THEM. D.O.D. MAKES A RATING AND IT SAYS V.A. AND THAT IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE TIME THAT IT TAKE FOR V.A. TO DO THEIR RATING.

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  • 10:15:19 PM

    MR. CUMMINGS

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, WHEN I -- WHEN WE CHECKED WITH V.A. -- WITHIN THE LAST…

    RECLAIMING MY TIME, WHEN I -- WHEN WE CHECKED WITH V.A. -- WITHIN THE LAST TWO HOURS, THEY SAID THAT THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 188 DAYS. BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, I WOULD HOPE THAT -- I GO BACK TO WHAT THE RANKING MEMBER SAID, WE REALLY OUGHT TO GET THIS INTO CONFERENCE AND IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT THE GENTLEMAN IS CONCERNED ABOUT, PERHAPS THEY CAN BE WORKED OUT AT THAT TIME. BUT WE'VE GOT SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ARE BEING ABUSED RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THAT THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE PROTECTS OUR VETERANS AND SO WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:16:05 PM

    MR. MILLER

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD SAY THAT ABSOLUTELY, IF THIS WAS JUST AN…

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD SAY THAT ABSOLUTELY, IF THIS WAS JUST AN EXTENSION OF SCRA, TO GET PAST THE SUN SET PROVISIONS, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT I KNOW AS ANY OTHER MEMBER IN HERE THAT THE LAST THING WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH OUR VETERANS, WITHOUT THINKING THROUGH ALL THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES. I WOULD NOTE THAT MR. CUMMINGS INTRODUCED AND IDENTICAL PIECE OF LEGISLATION, H.R. 5737, EARLIER THIS WEEK WHICH WOULD GIVE THE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE ISSUES. I WOULD ASK THE GENTLEMAN TO GIVE OUR COMMITTEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS PROPOSAL AND BILL FOR THEM -- BILL FORM THROUGH REGULAR ORDER, I PLEDGE MY COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH YOU, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED IN PROPER FASHION AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK. .

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  • 10:16:52 PM

    THE CHAIR

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND. THOSE IN FAVOR…

    IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 10:17:03 PM

    MR. CUMMINGS

    MR. SPEAKER, I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE.

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    THE CHAIR

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK

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    MR. SABLAN

    AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 29 OFFERED BY MR. SABLAN OF THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS.

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    THE CHAIR

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, MR. SABLAN AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL…

    TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, MR. SABLAN AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 10:17:55 PM

    MR. SABLAN

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE CHAIR

    SO ORDERED.

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    MR. SABLAN

    GUAM AND BUILD THE REGIONAL ECONOMY. REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF THE NORTHERN…

    GUAM AND BUILD THE REGIONAL ECONOMY. REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF THE NORTHERN MARCH YAWN ASSUPPORTS CHANGING THE -- MARCH YAWN ASSUPPORTS THE CHANGING THE LAW. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS NO COST COMMONSENSE AMENDMENT AND I RESERVE.

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  • 10:20:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST WILL…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. GENTLEMAN'S REQUEST WILL BE COVERED UNDER GENERAL LEAVE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 10:20:38 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. MCKEON

    RECOGNIZE THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII, MS. HANABUSA.

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    MS. HANABUSA

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE SABLAN AMENDMENT. THE REASON IS THAT IT REALLY ISN'T…

    IN OPPOSITION TO THE SABLAN AMENDMENT. THE REASON IS THAT IT REALLY ISN'T NECESSARY AT THIS TIME AND WHERE WE HAVE BUDGET ISSUES AND SEQUESTRATION ISSUES, WE DON'T NEED TO TACKLE THIS ONE AS WELL. WHAT THE AMENDMENT SEEKS IS TO AMEND 10 U.S.C. 7310 SUBSECTION A WHICH STATES U.S. NAVY VESSELS HOME PORTED IN THE UNITED STATES OR GUAM MAY NOT BE OVERHAULED, REPAIRED OR MAINTAINED IN SHIPYARDS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES OR GUAM EXCEPT FOR REPAIRS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIRST OF ALL I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WELL WHY MY GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM THE NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS WANTS TO DO THIS. HE IS REPRESENTING HIS CONSTITUENTS. BUT THE POINTS AGAINST IT OR OVERWHELMING. FIRST OF ALL, THE NAVY STATES IT HAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR SHIP MAINTENANCE FACILITY. THE NAVY CURRENTLY SAYS IT CAN CONDUCT REPAIRS IN CNMI BUT LIMITED PIER SPACE AND THEY CAN DO THE WORK ELSEWHERE FOR THE NAVY AND MILITARY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SHIP AND REPAIR CAPACITY IN BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SHIPYARDS EXIST TODAY IN PEARL HARBOR, HAWAII AND GUAM FOR BOTH THE U.S. NAVY. NOW, THE NAVY HAS NO FUTURE REQUIREMENT FOR THE REPAIR CAPACITY IN THE PACIFIC REGION AND IT'S BEEN TESTIFIED TO THAT THE BUILDUP ON GUAM DOES NOT CREATE A DEMAND FOR REPAIR CAPACITYMENT. SO THE NAVY'S REPAIR SHIP WORK LOAD ONLY SUPPORTS THE CURRENT FACILITIES IN GUAM AND WE DON'T NEED ANY ADDITIONAL FACILITIES. IN ADDITION TO THAT'S CORRECT THE NAVY OFFICIALS HAVE STATED THERE IS NOT ENOUGH U.S. NAVY WORK IN CURRENT AND FUTURE OPERATING PLANS. IT IS FOR THESE REASONS I OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:23:07 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLELADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. SABLAN

    GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM HAWAII THAT THERE IS A -- NO NEED FOR LARGE…

    GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE FROM HAWAII THAT THERE IS A -- NO NEED FOR LARGE VESSEL REPAIRS THOSE BEING PERFORMED IN HONOLULU, HAWAII OR ON GUAM. THE LETTER TO MS. BORDALLO ACTUALLY SAYS THIS. THE WATER DEPTH AND OTHER CONSTRAINTS WOULD NOT PERMIT ITS USE TO OVERHAUL, REPAIR AND MAINTAIN LARGE NAVY SHIPS WHICH FORM THE BULK OF WORK AT GUAM SHIPYARD. THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT WITH MY GOOD FRIEND FROM HAWAII. THE SHIPYARD WE CONTEMPLATE OPENING WOULD NOT COMPETE IN GUAM. WE AREN'T ASKING FOR ANYTHING BUT ASKING FOR THE AUTHORIZATION. THIS MAY NOT HAPPY, BUT WE AREN'T ASKING FOR MONEY BUT AUTHORIZATION SO THAT PRIVATE BUSINESSES, WHO WANT TO DO IT, WHO FIND SOME CAPACITY TO DO IT WILL COME IN AND ESTABLISH A SHIPYARD OR A SMALL REPAIR SHIP IN THE NORTHERN MARCH AND ASAND DO THE WORK AND COMPETE FOR THE BUSINESS. AGAIN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:24:26 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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  • 10:24:31 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    WE EACH HAVE?

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    THE CHAIR

    WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLOSE?

  • 10:24:49 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. SO I RESERVE.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NORN MARIANA.

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    MR. SABLAN

    MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    BALANCE OF OUR TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA,

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. FORBES

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I WANT TO JOIN THE DISTINGUISHED…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING AND I WANT TO JOIN THE DISTINGUISHED LADY FROM HAWAII IN OPPOSING THIS AMENDMENT AND ALSO IN HER COMPLIMENTING THE GENTLEMAN WHO BROUGHT IT. I KNOW HIS MOTIVES ARE VERY GOOD IN TRYING TO CREATE JOBS IN HIS AREA. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE AS THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII HAS STATED IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT REPAIRS IN THE MARCH ANNA ISLANDS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. THERE IS LIMITED PIER SPACE AND NO DRYDOCK CAPABILITY. TO ALLOW SECTORS TO INVEST HUGE MONEY OR SAY WE WANT MONEY FROM CONGRESS TO APPROPRIATE THERE WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE AS THE GENTLELADY FROM HAWAII SAID WE ALREADY HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY IN PEARL HARBOR, IN WASHINGTON, CALIFORNIA AND GUAM. AND TO SHOW THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS FURTHER SHIP REPAIR CAPACITY IN THE PACIFIC REGION, JUST LOOK AT LAST YEAR WHERE THE ABSENCE OF NEED WAS PERHAPS BEST EX POLICEMEN FIDE BY THE FACT THAT THE NAVY ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID WHEN IT HAD A PROPOSAL FROM SHIPYARDS IN THE PACIFIC REGION FOR LONG-TERM FACILITY PROPERTY AND THAT BID WAS FROM THE CURRENT GUAM SHIPYARD OPERATOR. THE DISTANCE FROM OVERSEAS HOME PORTS AND THE REGIONS WHICH THE SHIPS OPERATES BAKES THE SHIPYARD PROHIBITIVE IN TERMS OF OPERATING COSTS TO AND FROM THERE. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HOPE THAT CONGRESS WILL NOT GO DOWN THIS LINE. WE HAVE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, THE NAVY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR YARD THERE. WE ARE STRUGGLING AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME TO KEEP THE OTHER YARDS GOING WITH THE CAPACITY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND TO INVEST THIS KIND OF INVESTMENT THERE WHEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO FOR THIS BODY AT THIS TIME. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HOPE THAT WE WILL DEFEAT THIS AMENDMENT. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:27:36 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME ON THE AMENDMENT…

    GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. ALL TIME ON THE AMENDMENT HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM FROM NORTHERN MARCH ANNA ISLANDS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. . IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.

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  • 10:27:53 PM

    MR. SABLAN

    THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE CHAIR

    FOR A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON…

    FOR A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6, RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN WILL BE POSTPONED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 10:28:13 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TO H.RES. 6. I OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC.

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    THE CLERK

    3 CONSISTING OF AMENDMENTS NUMBED 35, 37, 44, 60, 63, 69, 71, 80, 84, 86,…

    3 CONSISTING OF AMENDMENTS NUMBED 35, 37, 44, 60, 63, 69, 71, 80, 84, 86, 87, 91, 94, 109, 110, 117, 130, 137, 140, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MCKEON OF CALIFORNIA.

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  • 10:28:44 PM

    THE CHAIR

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR.…

    PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    FOREIGN BUSINESSES THAT ALSO DO BUSINESS WITH TERRORIST NATIONS THAT ARE…

    FOREIGN BUSINESSES THAT ALSO DO BUSINESS WITH TERRORIST NATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN CONTRACT AND PROCUREMENT ACTIVITY WITH THE PENTAGON, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. THIS, I BELIEVE, AND I THINK MOST AMERICANS WOULD BELIEVE IS NOT ONLY A THREAT TO AMERICAN SECURITY, BUT IS ALSO THREATENING AMERICAN JOBS, BECAUSE THESE FOREIGN BUSINESSES ARE TAKING OPPORTUNITIES FROM AMERICAN-BASED BUSINESSES THAT COULD BE CONTRACTING AND PROCURING WITH THE PENTAGON. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT BUSINESSES THAT ENGAGE IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY WITH TERRORIST NATIONS AND THOSE ARE NATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS SPONSORS OF TRIM BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT FROM CONTRACTING AND PROCUREMENT ACTIVITIES WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. THIS IS AN ISSUE OF PROTECTING NOT ONLY AMERICAN SECURITY GO, BUT AMERICAN JOBS. AND I ENCOURAGE ITS PASSAGE.

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  • 10:30:24 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. MR. SMITH FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. CARSON.

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    THE CHAIR

    IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES. .

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    MR. CARSON

    THE FIRST SEEKS TO ADDRESS WHAT MANY CONSIDER TO BE A SERIOUS MISTAKE MADE…

    THE FIRST SEEKS TO ADDRESS WHAT MANY CONSIDER TO BE A SERIOUS MISTAKE MADE BY OUR MILITARY AND THIS CONGRESS OVER THE LAST DECADE OF WAR. THAT IS ALLOWING SOME OF OUR TROOPS, INCLUDING SEVERAL OF MY CONSTITUENTS, TO DEPLOY WITHOUT CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED TO BE SAFE IN COMBAT. INSTEAD THESE TROOPS HAD TO RELY ON THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS TO SEND THEM THIS VITAL EQUIPMENT. MY AMENDMENT CALLS ON THE D.O.D. TO SURVEY TROOPS WHO HAVE SERVED SINCE SEPTEMBER 11 TO FIGHT FIND OUT WHAT IF ANY EQUIPMENT THEY DID OR THEY HAD WITHOUT AND WHAT EQUIPMENT THEY RELIED ON FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO SEND THEM. I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT AN EFFORT TO CONDEMN OUR MILITARY OR THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. IN FACT, I APPLAUD THEIR VALUABLE EFFORTS IN THIS YEVER -- IN THIS AREA. . BUT NOW THAT WE ARE WINDING DOWN OUR WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, AND WE ARE OUT OF IRAQ, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR MISTAKES TO AVOID MAKING THEM AGAIN IN FUTURE CONFLICTS. MY SECOND AMENDMENT IS A RE-INTRODUCE -- REINTRODUCTION OF LANGUAGE ADOPTED LAST YEAR BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT BUT UNFORTUNATELY MOVED IN CONFERENCE. IT ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT OUR SERVICE MEMBERS DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN ONLY RECEIVED MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS PRIOR TO DEPLOYMENT AND AFTER RETURNING HOME. YET IT IS DURING DEPLOYMENT AND COMBAT THAT THESE EVENTS LEADING TO MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR. OVER THE MONTH OF DEPLOYMENT, WITHOUT DIAGNOSIS OR TREATMENT, THEIR PERFORMANCE COULD SUFFER. THEY COULD DEVELOP DANGEROUS ADDICTIONS AND IN FAR TOO COMMON INSTANCES THEY COULD HURT THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. MY AMENDMENT REMEMBERS THE D.O.D. TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS TO OUR TROOPS DURING DEPLOYMENT, IMPROVING CHANCES OF CATCHING AND TREATING PTSD AND OTHER ISSUES EARLY. I ASK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND UP FOR THE PHYSICAL SAFETY AND MENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR TROOPS AND I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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  • 10:32:42 PM

    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RISE?

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  • 10:32:45 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MR. MEEHAN.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. MEEHAN

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TODAY TO…

    THANK YOU FOR YIELDING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I RISE TODAY TO SUPPORT -- URGE SUPPORT FOR MY AMENDMENT WHICH REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO SUBMIT A REPORT TO THE CONGRESS EXPLAINING WHETHER THIS MEETS THE REQUIREMENT FOR DESIGNATION OF A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. IF THE SECRETARY DETERMINES THAT IT DOES NOT MERIT FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION DESIGNATION, THE AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THE SECRETARY TO INFORM CONGRESS WHICH CRITERIA ARE NOT MET. MR. SPEAKER, SIX MONTHS AGO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE URGING THIS DETERMINATION. MY COMMITTEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COUNTERTERRORISM AND INTELLIGENCE, HAD THIS REPORT. THIS GROUP HAS QUICKLY EVOLVED FROM WIELDING MACHETES TO USING DEADLY IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICES. THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF CONDUCT THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY OTHER TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS AND ONLY LATER DID THE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFY THEM AS --

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. MEEHAN

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I URGE SUPPORT.

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    MR. SMITH

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON…

    MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MS. JACKSON LEE

    I THANK BOTH THE RANKING MEMBER AND THE CHAIR AND THE CAN ONLY SAY THAT I…

    I THANK BOTH THE RANKING MEMBER AND THE CHAIR AND THE CAN ONLY SAY THAT I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THIS VERY PASSIONATE ISSUE. I WILL QUICKLY SAY THAT I HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS BUT I WILL QUICKLY SAY THAT ONE DEALS WITH OUTREACH ON BEHALF OF SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESSES FOR DEFENSE CONTRACTS AND I TRULY BELIEVE IT IS ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT FOR THE VAST NUMBER OF THOSE BUSINESSES. BUT I REALLY RISE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT TRIPLE NEGATIVE BREAST CANCER THAT HAS KILLED SO MANY WOMEN. I AM VERY, VERY PLEASED TO INDICATE THAT MY AMENDMENT WILL NOW, WITH THE OFFICE OF THE HEALTH OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, WILL IDENTIFY SPECIFIC GENETIC TARGETS OF TRIPLE NEGATIVE BREAST CANCER, PROVIDE INFORMATION USEFUL IN SELECTION DRUG DISCOVERY AND CLINICAL TRIALS DESIGNED TO ENABLE BOTH TRIPLE NEGATIVE BREAST CANCER PATIENTS TO BE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROGRESSION OF THEIR DISEASE BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE FOR THERAPY. I DO THIS IN LOVING MEMORY OF YOLANDA WILLIAMS. THIS WONDERFUL CARING WOMAN DIED SO QUICKLY BECAUSE OF TRIPLE NEGATIVE DISEASE AND IN THE LOVING MEMORY OF BETTY'S DAUGHTER, STACY MICHELLE, WHO SHARES HER STORY THAT SHE ALSO DIED FROM TRIPLE NEGATIVE BREAST CANCER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL OF MY MATERIALS BE PUT INTO THE RECORD. I ASK FOR THE SUPPORT OF MY AMENDMENT. I YIELD BACK.

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  • 10:35:35 PM

    THE CHAIR

    TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.

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    MR. MCKEON

    RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.

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    MR. SMITH

    WELL. I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 10:35:52 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT.

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  • 10:35:58 PM

    THE CHAIR

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENTS EN…

    YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE EN BLOC AMENDMENTS ARE AGREED TO. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 30 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA SEEK RECOGNITION?

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  • 10:36:43 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESS, -- DESK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 30 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. JOHNSON…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 30 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. JOHNSON OF GEORGIA.

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  • 10:36:56 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE…

    FROM GEORGIA, MR. JOHNSON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 10:37:04 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    MR. SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL DIRECTING THE…

    MR. SPEAKER. MY AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO CONSIDER REDEPLOYING TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO THE WESTERN PACIFIC REGION. AND IT WOULD REPLACE THAT LANGUAGE WITH A FINDING THAT SUCH A DEPLOYMENT WOULD NOT BE IN THE BEST NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES. THE IRRESPONSIBLE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL HAS ALREADY PROVOKED A STRONG NEGATIVE REACTION FROM THE SOUTH KOREAN GOVERNMENT AND FORCED THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO CLARIFY THAT DEPLOYING NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN SOUTH KOREA IS NOT ON THE TABLE. TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS WOULD BE EXTREMELY DESTABILIZING IN THE REGION. IT WOULD ACCELERATE NORTH KOREA'S DEVELOPMENT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND AMERICA WOULD LOSE ITS MORAL GROUND AND ITS DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS TO PERSUADE NORTH KOREA TO GIVE UP ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS. IT WOULD ALSO UNDERMINE DECADES OF DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS TO SECURE A NUCLEAR FREE KOREAN PENINSULA, ESPECIALLY THE JOINT DECLARATION OF DENUKE LARIZATION OF THE KOREAN PENINSULA WHICH BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA SIGNED IN 1991. AND IT WOULD DRAMATICALLY HEIGHTEN TENSIONS WITH CHINA, PERHAPS WITH RUSSIA, WHOSE LEADERS WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLY CONCERNED BY AMERICAN TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THEIR BACKYARDS. MR. CHAIRMAN, OUR FORCES IN THE REGION, INCLUDING OUR BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES, OUR INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES, OUR TOMAHAWK CRUISE MISSILES, B-52 AND B-2 BOMBERS, THOSE THINGS ARE FULLY CAPABLE OF COUNTERING NORTH KOREA. I WOULD QUOTE GENERAL WALTER SHARP, RECENTLY RETIRED AS COMMANDER OF U.S. FORCES IN KOREA, WHO SAID LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO, QUOTE, I DON'T BELIEVE TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS NEED TO RETURN TO THE REPUBLICAN OF KOREA -- REPUBLIC OF KOREA. THE U.S. HAS SUFFICIENT CAPABILITIES FROM STOCKS IN DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE WORLD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO DETER NORTH KOREA FROM USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE STATIONED HERE IN KOREA FOR EITHER DETERRENT CAPABILITY OR USE CAPABILITY, END QUOTE. MR. SPEAKER, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 10:39:48 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 10:39:53 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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    MR. MCKEON

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE…

    MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM ON THE COMMITTEE -- THE GENTLEMAN ON THE COMMITTEE, FROM ARIZONA, MR. FRANKS.

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    THE CHAIR

    FROM ARIZONA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

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    MR. FRANKS

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE THING I THINK I WOULD SAY FIRST…

    I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE THING I THINK I WOULD SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THAT THE TRUE DESTABILIZING FORCE IN THE WESTERN PASIFPK TODAY IS THE -- PACIFIC TODAY IS THE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THE HANDS OF NORTH KOREA. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY EFFORTS TO TRY TO PURSUE SOLUTIONS TO THAT, IN THAT REGARDS, SIX-PARTY TALK, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. AND -- TALKS, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IT'S TIME THE UNITED STATES HAD SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE MERELY SAYS THAT WE NEED A REPORT TO BE CONDUCTED REGARDING THE EFFICACY OF ADDITIONAL NUCLEAR CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC REGION. IT TECHNICALLY DOESN'T EVEN MENTION SOUTH KOREA. BUT IT IS TRUE THAT THE SOUTH KOREAN PEOPLE AND SOME OF THE SOUTH KOREAN LEADERS HAVE DEBATED AND SOME OF THEM ARE ARGUING FOR THE REDEPLOYMENT OF TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON THE PENINSULA BECAUSE THEY SEE NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR FORCES AS THE MOST DESTABILIZING ASPECT. AND THIS AMENDMENT THAT THE GENTLEMAN PUTS FORWARD SIMPLY SAYS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT'S NOT IN EVIDENCE THAT THE -- THAT THAT'S NOT IN EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT. I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THIS LANGUAGE IN OUR DEFENSE BILL ACTUALLY STRENGTHENS THE ADMINISTRATION'S HAND TO PROMOTE SOME SORT OF A MORE JUST SOLUTION HERE AND TAKES THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IN A SAFER DIRECTION. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE OPPOSED AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE NDAA SHOULD BE PRESERVED. AND WITH THAT I WOULD YIELD BACK.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM…

    THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.

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  • 10:41:51 PM

    MR. JOHNSON

    SPEAKER, I YIELD TO THE GOOD RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES…

    SPEAKER, I YIELD TO THE GOOD RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE ONE MINUTE.

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  • 10:41:57 PM

    THE CHAIR

    FROM WASHINGTON VOICED FOR ONE MINUTE.

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    MR. SMITH

    YES.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. SMITH

    AMENDMENT SIMPLY STATES WHAT I THINK IS THE OBVIOUS. IT WOULD BE A BAD…

    AMENDMENT SIMPLY STATES WHAT I THINK IS THE OBVIOUS. IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA TO PUT TACTICAL WEAPONS INTO SOUTH KOREA. IT MAKES, PERHAPS RATIONAL IS TOO STRONG A WORD, MORE USER-FRIENDLY, MR. FRANKS AMENDMENT IN THE COMMITTEE, BY AT LEAST MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THIS VERY, VERY BAD OPTION FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS IS NOT GOING TO BE CONTEMPLATED. THIS AMENDMENT SAYS WE SHOULD NOT PUT TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN SOUTH KOREA. I THINK THAT IS CLEARLY THE RIGHT POLICY AND I URGE ADOPTION.

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  • 10:43:43 PM

    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN CONTINUES TO RESERVE. THE…

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN CONTINUES TO RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 10:43:52 PM

    MR. MCKEON

    DOES THE GENTLEMAN HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS?

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    MR. JOHNSON

    THEN WE --

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE.

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    THE CHAIR

    THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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    MR. JOHNSON

    THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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