Kevin McCarthy Elected Republican Leader in 116th Congress, 159-43
Senate Session - April 6, 1995
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  • 09:30:01 AM

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    HAVE THE DISDAIN FOR YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU CAN HAVE DISDAIN FOR…

    HAVE THE DISDAIN FOR YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU CAN HAVE DISDAIN FOR YOUR OWN FANS, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A SPECIAL EXEMPTION UNDER THE LAW. TO CARRY OUT THAT DISDAIN. MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 09:39:36 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO TERMINATE PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO TERMINATE PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 09:42:56 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO COMMENT ON TWO THINGS THAT -- ONE, WHICH HAS JUST OCCURRED AND ONE…

    TO COMMENT ON TWO THINGS THAT -- ONE, WHICH HAS JUST OCCURRED AND ONE WHICH IS ABOUT TO OCCUR, I HOPE. WE KNOW THAT

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  • 09:42:59 AM

    MR. KYL

    JUST OCCURRED AND ONE WHICH IS ABOUT TO OCCUR, I HOPE. WE KNOW THAT LAST…

    JUST OCCURRED AND ONE WHICH IS ABOUT TO OCCUR, I HOPE. WE KNOW THAT LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED HISTORIC TAX RELIEF FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT FOR A MOMENT.

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  • 09:43:03 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED HISTORIC TAX RELIEF FOR THE…

    LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED HISTORIC TAX RELIEF FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT FOR A MOMENT.

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  • 09:43:05 AM

    MR. KYL

    THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA IS RECOGNIZED.

  • 09:54:31 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IN PURSUING APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATIVE TO CUTTING FEDERAL SPENDING. AND…

    IN PURSUING APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATIVE TO CUTTING FEDERAL SPENDING. AND WHILE I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THEY HAVE, I THINK THEIR ENERGY AND COMMITMENT IS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND I THINK THE SPIRIT OF LEADERSHIP IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE ARE CERTAINLY EVIDENCED IN THIS NEW GROUP THAT HAS JOINED OUR MEMBERSHIP. MR.

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  • 09:54:35 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THEY HAVE, I THINK THEIR ENERGY…

    I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THEY HAVE, I THINK THEIR ENERGY AND COMMITMENT IS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND I THINK THE SPIRIT OF LEADERSHIP IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE ARE CERTAINLY EVIDENCED IN THIS NEW GROUP THAT HAS JOINED OUR MEMBERSHIP. MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE IN MORNING BUSINESS. WE'RE ON THE BILL? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WE'RE ON THE BILL.

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  • 09:55:13 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    LI TO VISIT THE U.S.. AND I ASSUME UNDER THE RESCISSION PACKAGE THAT'S…

    LI TO VISIT THE U.S.. AND I ASSUME UNDER THE RESCISSION PACKAGE THAT'S BEFORE US, UNANIMOUS CONSENT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT'S CORRECT.

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  • 09:55:17 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    UNDER THE RESCISSION PACKAGE THAT'S BEFORE US, UNANIMOUS CONSENT WOULD BE…

    UNDER THE RESCISSION PACKAGE THAT'S BEFORE US, UNANIMOUS CONSENT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE OBJECTION? MR. MURKOWSKI: I THANK THE CHAIR.

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  • 09:55:34 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WAS MY INTENTION ON THE RESCISSION PACKAGE TO REQUEST AN UP-DOWN VOTE ON…

    WAS MY INTENTION ON THE RESCISSION PACKAGE TO REQUEST AN UP-DOWN VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT WHICH I INTENDED TO OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE SENATE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN, LI TENG-HU, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES.

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  • 09:55:38 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    AN UP-DOWN VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT WHICH I INTENDED TO OFFER WHICH WOULD BE…

    AN UP-DOWN VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT WHICH I INTENDED TO OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE SENATE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN, LI TENG-HU, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES.

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  • 09:55:40 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AN AMENDMENT WHICH I INTENDED TO OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE…

    AN AMENDMENT WHICH I INTENDED TO OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE SENATE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN, LI TENG-HU, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES.

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  • 09:55:43 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE SENATE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE…

    OFFER WHICH WOULD BE EXPRESSING THE SENATE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN, LI TENG-HU, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S UNLIKELY WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AMENDMENTS, SO I'M NOT OFFERING THE AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME. BUT I WOULD INTEND AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME WHEN THERE IS A VEHICLE TO OFFER THE AMENDMENT AND REQUEST AN UP-DOWN VOTE. WHAT I WOULD HAVE OFFERED, MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD HAVE BEEN IDENTICAL TO LANGUAGE OF SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 59 WHICH HAS 52 BIPARTISAN COSPONSORS, INCLUDING, I'M PROUD TO SAY, BOTH THE MAJORITY AND MINORITY LEADERS OF THIS BODY. SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 9 PASSED THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY TWO WEEKS AGO. SPECIFICALLY, THAT RESOLUTION CALLS ON OUR PRESIDENT TO ALLOW PRESIDENT LI OF TAIWAN TO COME TO THE U.S. NOT ON A STATE VISIT, MR. PRESIDENT, BUT ON A PRIVATE VISIT. IT'S AN IDENTICAL RESOLUTION TO H.C.R. 33, WHICH WAS INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE BY CONGRESSMAN LANTOS OF CALIFORNIA, SOLOMON OF NEW YORK, AND TORRICELLI OF NEW JERSEY. IT PASSED THE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, I'M TOLD, BY A VOTE OF 33-0. SO OBVIOUSLY THE SUPPORT IS THERE. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CONGRESS. NOW, WE HAVE A RATHER INTERESTING SITUATION WITH REGARD TO OUR RELATIONS WITH TAIWAN AS WELL AS CHINA. BUT, CLEARLY, WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THE P.R.C. TO DICTATE WHO CAN VISIT THE UNITED STATES. AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN OFFICIAL STATE VISIT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING PRESIDENT LI TO VISIT. HE'S RECEIVED TWO INVITATIONS THAT THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA IS AWARE OF. ONE IS TO COME AND VISIT HIS ALMA MATER, CORNELL UNIVERSITY, WHERE HE'S ASKED TO MAKE AN ADDRESS. FURTHER, HE'S BEEN EXTENDED AN INVITATION TO THE U.S. R.O.C. ECONOMIC COUNCIL -- THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION OF TRADE AND COMMERCE BETWEEN TAIWAN AND THE U.S. -- AND THAT ORGANIZATION WILL BE MEETING IN ANCHORAGE, ALASKA -- MY HOME STATE -- IN SEPTEMBER. THOSE ARE TWO INVITATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF. IN THE -- IN BOTH INSTANCES, THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS DISCOURAGED THE ISSUANCE OF THESE INVITATIONS AND IMPLIED THAT THEY WOULD NOT LOOK FAVORABLY ON A REQUEST. NOW, I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE TO THIS SENATOR BECAUSE THE SUGGESTION OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS THAT ALLOWING PRESIDENT LI TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES WOULD UPSET RELATIONS WITH THE P.R.C. I THINK WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE GIGANTIC STRIDES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY TAIWAN OVER THE YEARS. THEY'VE ENDED THEIR MARTIAL LAW, THEY'VE INITIATED FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, THEY HAVE A VERY VOCAL PRESS, HUMAN RIGHTS HAVE STEADILY IMPROVED, THEY HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG SECOND PARTY. AND TAIWAN ULTIMATELY IS A FRIENDLY DEMOCRATIC, STABLE, AND PROSPEROUS NATION. THEY'RE THE FIFTH-LARGEST TRADING PARTNER OF THE U.S. AND THE WORLD'S 13TH. THEY BUY TWICE AS MUCH FROM THE UNITED STATES AS FROM THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. THEY'RE AMONG THE HOLDERS OF THE LARGEST FOREIGN RESERVES OF MY COUNTRY. THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE INTERNATIONAL CAUSES. BUT OUR COUNTRY CONTINUES TO GIVE A COLD SHOULDER TO THE LEADER OF TAIWAN, PRESIDENT LI. AND THEY IT WENT SO FAR, MR. PRESIDENT, LAST MAY IN HAWAII, WHEN PRESIDENT LI WAS IN TRANSIT FROM TAIWAN TO CENTRAL AMERICA -- THERE FOR A REFUELING STOP -- THE STATE DEPARTMENT REFUSED TO ALLOW PRESIDENT LI AN OVERNIGHT VISIT. AND THEY EVIDENTLY CONTINUED TO INDICATE THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW PRIVATE VISITS. THEY SUGGEST THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW TRANSIT STOPS. WELL, THAT MEANS THAT PERHAPS THE AIRPLANE CAN STOP FOR A REFUELING AND THEY WOULD ALLOW HIM TO GET OFF AND PERHAPS SPEND THE NIGHT, BUT, CLEARLY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW HIM TO VISIT THE UNITED STATES. NOW, ONE OF THE INCONSISTENCIES I'D LIKE TO BRING OUT -- AND THIS CAME UP ON A RECENT TRIP THAT I MADE TO BOTH TAIWAN AND BEIJING -- AND LEARNED OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE ASSOCIATION FOR RELATIONS ACROSS TAIWAN STRAITS. AND THAT'S THE ORGANIZATION IN BEIJING. ON THE TAIWANESE SIDE, THERE'S THE ORGANIZATION CALLED THE MAINLAND AFFAIRS COUNCIL. NOW, WHERE WE ARE BEING TOLD BY THE P.R.C. NOT TO HAVE ANY RELATIONS WITH TAIWAN BECAUSE IT WOULD OFFEND THE P.R.C. THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP IN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THESE ORGANIZATIONS MEET REGULARLY. THE ASSOCIATION FOR RELATIONS ACROSS TAIWAN STRAITS, THE P.R.C. ORGANIZATION, AND THE MAINLAND AFFAIRS COUNCIL IN TIE JUAN -- AND WHAT DO THEY TALK ABOUT? THEY TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING BUT POLITICS. THEY TALK ABOUT TRADE, THEY TALK ABOUT COMMERCE, THEY TALK ABOUT HIJACKING. AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT CHINESE BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN ARE AMONG THE BEST IN THE WORLD. THEY'RE MOTIVATED, OBVIOUSLY, BY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRADE AND COMMERCE. SO THEY'RE DISCUSSING BETWEEN THEM MATTERS OF INTEREST AND MATTERS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO BOTH. THEY HAVE EVEN ANNOUNCED PROPOSALS FOR DIRECT SHIPPING FROM TAIWAN TO THE SOUTHERN PROVINCES IN CHINA. THAT WOULD BYPASS HONG KONG. NOW, HERE WE HAVE A SITUATION OF INCONSISTENCY, AND IT'S BEYOND THIS SENATOR TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE STATE DEPARTMENT COULD OVERLOOK THAT TRADE IN COMMERCE IS BEING ESTABLISHED DIRECTLY BETWEEN -- TRADE AND COMMERCE IS BEING STEAKD DIRECTLY BETWEEN TAIWAN AND THE P.R.C., YET THE P.R.C. DICTATES TO US THAT WE CANNOT EXTEND A PRIVATE VISIT TO THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN. WELL, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT CHINA HAS ESTABLISHED A PATTERN. I HAVE A GREAT RESPECT AND FONDNESS FOR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES. I KNOW THE AMBASSADOR. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING CHAIRMAN DENG. BUT IT'S A POLICY THAT THEY BELLOW ABOUT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING WE DO WITH TAIWAN. U.S. PRESSURE AT THE U.N. ON HUMAN RIGHTS, WORLD TRADE MEMBERSHIP, AND ANYTHING WE DO OR RECOGNIZE FOR TAIWAN. NOW, THAT'S A LITANY. IT'S EXPECTED. WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE DICTATED BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WHICH THEY MANDATE. IN MY OPINION, IN THE END THEY WILL MAKE CALCULATIONS ABOUT WHEN AND WHAT TO RISK WITH REGARD TO THEIR PHILOSOPHY OF DOING BUSINESS AND PARTICIPATING IN OUR MARKETS. WE SHOULD SIMPLY DO THE SAME. THERE IS A PRECEDENT, IF YOU WILL, FOR LI'S VISIT, AND I'LL BE SPECIFIC, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS ADD MRX AS WELCOMED OTHER "UNOFFICIAL" LEADERS TO THE UNITED STATES. THE DALAI LAMA CALLED ON PRESIDENT GORE OVER THE OBJECTIONS FROM THE P.R.C. YASSIR ARAFAT CAME TO THE WHITE HOUSE CEREMONY, HE WAS ONCE REFERRED TO AS A SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM. GERRY ADAMS HAS BEEN GRANTED NUMEROUS HAVE I SAS OVER GREAT BRITAIN'S OBJECTIONS. IN EACH CASE THE THINK THE ADMINISTRATION MADE THE CORRECT CHOICE TO ALLOW US TO ADVANCE AMERICA'S GOALS. LI'S VISITS WOULD DO THE SAME. WE THINK ABOUT EXTENDED DEBATES IN THIS BODY ABOUT MOST FAVORED NATION STATUS FOR CHINA. I SUPPORTED IT, MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE, UNDER THE PREMISE THAT WE CAN BRING ABOUT CHANGE, WE CAN BRING ABOUT GREATER RECOGNITION ON HUMAN RIGHTS IF WE ESTABLISH A DIALOGUE, OPEN TRADE AND COMMERCE. SO WE APPLY IT TO CHINA, BUT WITH REGARD TO TAIWAN, WE WON'T EVEN INVITE THE PRESIDENT OF TAIWAN FOR A VISIT TO THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS IS A PRIVATE VISIT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A STATE VISIT. NOW, BY THE VOTE TAKEN -- EXCUSE ME, BY THE NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS ON THE AMENDMENT, 52 BIPARTISAN COSPONSORS, CLEARLY THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOULD GET THE MESSAGE. PREVAILING ATTITUDE IN THIS BODY. AND AS I SAID WHEN I STARTED, I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS AS AN AMENDMENT BEFORE THIS BODY ON THE RESCISSION PACKAGE, BUT I INTEND TO BRING IT UP LATER FOR AN UP DOWN VOTE, BECAUSE THAT IS PERHAPS THE ONLY WAY THE STATE DEPARTMENT CAN UNDERSTAND THE PREVAILING ATTITUDE. FINALLY, THE U.S. R.O.C. ECONOMIC COUNCIL CONFERENCE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WILL BE HELD IN ANCHORAGE IN SEPTEMBER. VISITING ALASKA WOULD NOT BE A POLITICAL STATEMENT. WE CONSIDER OURSELVES ALMOST ANOTHER COUNTRY. WE ARE OUT THERE ALL BY OURSELVES, AND THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT PRESIDENT LI PARTICIPATE IN AN ECONOMIC MEETING. LI'S ALMA MATER, CORNELL, UNIVERSITY, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, IS ANOTHER COMPLETELY PRIVATE MATTER. SO I WOULD CALL ON MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE TO SEND A STRONG SIGNAL TO THE ADMINISTRATION AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME WHETHER I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP THE AMENDMENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT A LETTER BE INSERTED INTO THE RECORD, AND THIS IS A LETTER FROM DAVID W. TILE, PRESIDENT OF THE CENTER FOR TAIWAN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS.

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  • 10:06:14 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE FLOOR, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO HIM. I WONDER IF I MAY -- MR.…

    THE FLOOR, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO HIM. I WONDER IF I MAY -- MR. BYRD:

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  • 10:06:17 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    YIELD TO HIM. I WONDER IF I MAY -- MR. BYRD: MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE…

    YIELD TO HIM. I WONDER IF I MAY -- MR. BYRD: MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR. I THANK HIM.

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  • 10:06:32 AM

    MR. BYRD

    ABOUT ANOTHER AMENDMENT I WAS PREPARED TO OFFER, BUT AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE…

    ABOUT ANOTHER AMENDMENT I WAS PREPARED TO OFFER, BUT AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE FLOOR, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENTED, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS ONGOING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THE MERITS OF THE ISSUE, ALTHOUGH AS I HAVE SAID THE AMENDMENT WILL NOT BE OFFERED. THIS

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  • 10:06:37 AM

    MR. MURKOWSKI

    CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE FLOOR, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENTED, BUT IT IS AN…

    CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE FLOOR, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENTED, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS ONGOING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THE MERITS OF THE ISSUE, ALTHOUGH AS I HAVE SAID THE AMENDMENT WILL NOT BE OFFERED. THIS WAS TO BE A VERY SIMPLE STRAIGHTFORWARD AMENDMENT. IT WOULD REQUIRE THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO TO PROVIDE OUR GOVERNMENT WITH INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS OR INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE REDEEMING MEXICO'S DEBT, WHEN THE REDEMOCRAT SHUNS ARE MADE WITH FUNDS PROVIDED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. AS MY FRIEND IN THE CHAIR, THE PRESIDENT WOULD RECALL, THIS IS CURRENTLY APPROACHING $52 BILLION. IT IS THE CONTENTION. SENATOR FROM ALASKA THAT THIS IS AN A BAIL OUT, QUOTE UNQUOTE, THAT'S BEEN CRAFTED BY THE UNITED STATES THROUGH THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MEXICO HAS ALREADY USED SOME $13 BILLION TO PAY OFF THE DEBT, OF WHICH $5 BILLION INITIALLY HAS COME FROM THE UNITED STATES. ANOTHER $15 BILLION OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER MONEY IS AT RISK. NOW THAT IS MONEY THAT CAME FROM AN INTERNATIONAL -- EXCUSE ME, A MONETARY STABILIZATION FUND SET UP AT A TIME WHEN WE WENT OFF THE GOLD STANDARD. NOW WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CAME TO THE HILL TO SEEK SUPPORT FOR THE MEXICO BAIL OUT AND COULDN'T GET IT AND DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD FIND ANOTHER AVENUE AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE $20 BILLION THAT IS IN THE MONETARY STABILIZATION FUND. THEN GOT THE WORLD BANK AND OTHERS AND THE COMMITMENT IS NOW SOME $52 BILLION. IT IS INTERESTING TO REFLECTS ON THAT. THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK AND I HAD A COLLOQUY, SOMETIME AGO, AND BOTH OUR RECOLLECTIONS ARE THAT THE CURRENT DEBT OF MEXICO, AS COMMUNICATED BY THE ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO AT A MEETING THAT WE HAD IS IN THE AREA OF $70 BILLION. CURRENT DEBT IS DEBT PAYABLE IN A YEAR. NOW THIS DEBT IS TO MEET AN OBLIGATION ISSUED BY THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT IN THE FORM OF BONDS, AND THESE ARE BEARER BONDS. THAT MEANS WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHO HOLDS THEM. LIKE A CHECK PAYABLE TO "CASH". NOW THE QUESTION MY AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS IS WHO IS BEING BAILED OUT? IS IT MEXICANS? IS IT MEXICAN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS? AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A DID HE STPIN ACTIVE ANSWER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE ORDINARY CITIZENS OF MEXICO ARE FOUGHT BEING BAILED OUT, IN FACT THE ORDINARY CITIZEN OF MEXICO IS CURRENTLY FACING INTEREST RATES THAT ARE CLEARLY OUT OF REACH, SOME -- IN SOME INSTANCES 75%, 100%, MORTGAGE RATES ARE ABSOLUTELY UNREALISTIC. THE REALITY OF LOST JOBS, HIGHER TAXES, HIGHER INFLATION, AND WHETHER WE LOOK AT THE OBLIGATION OF WHO PACE THIS BACK, WELL WE FIND IT IS THE CITIZENS OF MEXICO. TECHNOLOGIES THE ECONOMY OF MEXICO. BUSINESSES OPERATING IN MEXICO ARE NOT BEING BAILED OUT BY THIS COMMIT, WHICH IS THE FIRST ADVANCE OF SOME $52 BILLION, AS I HAVE SAID, MEXICO HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID $13 BILLION TO PAY OFF DEBT AND $5 BILLION HAS COME FROM THE UNITED STATES, HENCE THE U.S. TAXPAYER. COUNTRIES THAT PUT BRICK AND MORTAR INTO PLANTS TO MAKE JOBS FOR MEXICAN CITIZENS DO NOT BENEFIT FROM THIS MONEY, AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY ARE BEING EFFECTED BY THE HAVOC CAUSED BY THE DEINFLAMMATION. MEXICAN PESO. AMERICAN MUTUAL FUND VIN TEST E. TORS, MET HE REPEAT THAT. AMERICAN MUTUAL FUND INVESTORS, WHO INVESTED IN THE MEXICAN BOLSA, ARE NOT BEING BAILED OUT, SNFKT THESE HE DWI AT THIS INVESTORS HAVE SEEN THE VALUE OF THEIR HOLDINGS DROP MORE THAN 50%, AND IN SOME CASES THE LOSS OF THESE STOCKS ARE EVEN LARGER. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHERE IS THIS MONEY GOING, AND WHO IS IT GOING TO BENEFIT? WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW WITH WHO IS BEING BAILED OUT AND SO DO I. THE OWN OF THE SO-CALLED TESTABONO DEBT. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IN FACT THIS DEBT DIDN'T EXIST A YEAR AGO. IT IS THE MEXICAN DEBT THAT WHEN IT COMES DUE IS PAID IN PESOS. IT IS RATHER INTERESTING HOW THE FINANCIAL INTRIGUE OF THIS ADJUSTMENT OCCURRED, HOWEVER THE IMPORTANT THING TO RECOGNIZE IS THE AMOUNT OF PESOS THAT THE DEBT RIDDEN HOLDER RECEIVES IS THE LINKED TO THE PESO DOLLAR EXCHANGE RATE. NOW MEXICO, UNFORTUNATELY WAS MADE A DECISION TO ISSUE THIS TYPE OF DEBTORLY LAST YEAR, BECAUSE IT WAS FINDING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT FOREIGN INVESTORS TO FINANCE ITS DEBT. THAT SOUNDS RATHER CURIOUS, DOESN'T IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE FOREIGN INVESTORS TO FINANCE OUR DEBT. CANADA HAS TO HAVE TPWORNE INVESTORS TO FINANCE ITSE DEBT. I NOTED MR. PRESIDENT THE OTHER DAY A FIGURE THAT INDICATED THAT 29.6% OF THE CANADIAN BUDGET WAS TO PAY INTEREST ON THE DEBT. THAT IS ALMOST A THIRD. WHETHER YOU GET INTO THAT AREA, THE BALL GAME IS ALMOST OVER. IT IS ALMOST OVER. NOW, THE FORE NERS, OF COURSE, -- FOREIGNERS, OF COURSE, IN ORDER TO INVEST, WHEN THEY SEE A SITUATION THAT IS LESS THAN STABLE, DEMAND HIGHER INTEREST RATES. AND THEY DEMAND AS MUCH AS 20% AND HIGHER IN THE SENSE OF SAYING, ALL RIGHT, NOT ONLY DO WE WANT 20% INTEREST RATES, BUT WE WANT THE DEBT LINKED TO THE PESO DOLLAR EXCHANGE. THESE ARE VERY TRUDEAU INVERSE TORS, MR. PRESIDENT. THEY KNOW THAT MONEY GOES TO THE HIGHEST RETURN AND THE LEAST RISK. AND THEY HAVE HAVE FORESEEN THE PESO COULD BE DEVALUED, AND THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD SUFFER NO CURRENCY RISK. THAT IS EXACTLY WHRAPD, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PESO WENT FROM 3.5 TO THE DOLLAR TO 6.5 IN BARELY TWO MONTHS. AND NOW THAT THIS DEBT IS DUE, THESE INVESTORS ARE COMPLETELY INSULATED FROM THE FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT IS AFFECTING ALL OTHER SECTORS OF THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY AND THE WORKING COMMUNITY IN MEXICO. ONE ASKS THE QUESTION, WHY? WELL IT IS BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDE TODAY GIVE MEXICO, THESE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, TO PAY OFF THESE INVESTORS. NOW WHO ARE THESE INVESTORS? WELL THEY ARE THE SOPHISTICATED INVESTORS. THEY ARE THE INVESTORS THAT WENT OUT THERE AND TOOK A RISK, BECAUSE THE ATTRACTIVE NECESSARY OF 20% INTEREST SUGGESTED THE RISK WAS WORTH TAKING. BUT THEY ARE FAIRLY SOPHISTICATED. THEY ARE NOT THE MEXICAN PEOPLE. NOW THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED TO GIVE THESE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO MAY OFF THESE INVESTORS. IF WE HAD NOT COME TO THE RESCUE, MR. PRESIDENT, THEN THESE INVESTORS WOULD HAVE HAD TO SUFFER THE FINANCE CONSEQUENCES THAT EVERY ONE ELSE IN MEXICO MUST FACE. WHY SHOULD THESE INVESTORS BE BAILED OUT? NOW WE DON'T BAIL OUT THE INVESTORS WHO PUT MONEY IN THE ONLY COUNTY BONDS. WHY ARE THESE INVESTORS IN MEXICO SO VERY SPECIAL? WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS, OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. THAT MAKES THEM SPECIAL. WE KNOW WHO THE INVESTORS WHO BOUGHT ORANGE COUNTY BONDS ARE. WHO BONES EASE TESTABONOS. WE DON'T KNOW. THEY ARE BEARER BONDS. THEY COULD BE AMERICANS, THEY COULD BE JAPANESE GERMAN INVESTORS, THEY COULD WELL BE THE BILLIONAIRES WHO LIVE IN MEXICO CITIES, AND THE GOOD FRIENDS IN THE CONTROLLING P.R.I. PARTY. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WHOEVER OWNS THIS DEBT IS REALLY CASHING IN, AND THEY ARE SHIPPING THEIR MONEY WHERE, THEY ARE SHIPPING IT OUT OF MEXICO. IN FACT SO MANY TESTABONO OWNERS WERE CONVERTING THEIR PROCEEDS INTO DOLLARS THAT THE PESO BEGAN TO CRASH ABOVE 7 TO THE DOLLAR. THEN THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT DECIDE TODAY STOP MAIG OFF TESTABON DEBT IN PESOS AND MADE IMMEDIATELY PAID THE DEBT IN DOLLARS. WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM? IT CAME FROM THE UNITED STATES. WHOSE DOLLARS ARE THEY USING? THEY ARE USING THE U.S. TRACTION PAIR DOLLARS. WE ARE BAILING THEM OUT. WHY? WE ARE BEING TOLD TECHNOLOGIES TO STABILIZE MEXICO'S MONETARY AND CURRENCY SYSTEM. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TOLD. WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU BUY A FEW SHARES OF STOCK ON THE AMERICAN OR SENATOR STOCK EXCHANGE AND YOU LOSE MONEY, WE DON'T BAIL YOU OUT. THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF SOPHISTICATED INVESTOR THAT BOUGHT BEARER BONDS, IS BEING BAILED OUT AND THE QUESTION IS WHY? AS AGAIN WE ARE TOLD TO STABILIZE MEXICO'S MONETARY AND CURRENCY SYSTEM. ABOUT IF WE HADN'T BAILED THEM OUT, THE BONDHOLDERS AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT, WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE DONE? THEY WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT EVERY ONE ELSE DOES, YOU SIT DOWN AND WORK THE DEAL OUT. YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT GET 100% ON THE INVESTMENT. YOU MIGHT GET 40%. THAT IS THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS AND THE ORDINARY DEBTOR CREDITOR SITUATION. THEN WE WOULD KNOW WHO THE HOLDERS OF THE TESTABONO DEBT ARE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME FORTH. SUBMIT THEIR BEARER BONDS THROUGH INVESTMENT BROKERS, COMMERCIAL INTERNATIONAL BANKS, WE WOULD KNOW WHO THEY WERE, SILT DOWN AND WORK OUT A DEAL. THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. BUT I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE AMERICAN TARX PAIR KNOW WHO THE RECIPIENTS OF THIS DEBT ARE. SOMEONE SAID WHAT DIFFERENT DOES IT MAKE WHO THEY ARE? WEMT, I THINK WHETHER AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ARE USED TO PROVIDE A GUARANTEE ON A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT DEBT TO A VERY SELECT GROUP OF HOLDERS OF -- NOT ONLY WILL THEY GET THE PRINCIPLE BACK, MR. PRESIDENT, THEM GET THE INTEREST. 20%. YOU AND I, WHERE DO WE GO TO GET 20%? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE YOU GET IN LINE DOWN THERE AND BUY SOME TESTABONOS. BUT WE OUGHT TO NOPE WHO THE BENEFICIARIES ARE. BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS NOT THE MEXICAN ECONOMIES WHICH IS THE BENEFICIARY. THIS ISN'T GOING TO DO A THING FOR THE MEXICAN ECONOMY. THOSE HOLDERS OF THAT DEBT ARE MOVING THAT MONEY OUT OF MEXICO. YET THE MEXICAN ECONOMY, THE MEXICAN CITIZENS ARE EXPECTS 20D PAY IT BACK. IN THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST IN MEXICO THAT IS UNLIKELY TO OCCUR. NOW, AND OF MY COLLEAGUES MAKE THE POINT THAT WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT INDICATE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING A PROCESS, AND THEN NOT FOLLOW IT THROUGH. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SALES PACKAGE, MR. PRESIDENT, IS WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE WERE TOLD CONTINUALLY, WE WERE GOING TO STABILIZE THE MEXICAN ECONOMY. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS PAYING OFF DEBT THAT SERVICE INDICATED INVESTORS WHO WOULD THE THOSE TEST TESTTABONOS, TO BAIL OUT AND THEY WILL NOT PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN MEXICO. A LARGE PORTION OF THIS DEBT IS EAMGD TO BE HELD BY AMERICANS, BUT THE TREASURY CLAIMS THAT THESE BEARER INSTRUMENTS ARE OF A NATURE WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE DEBT. WELL I DON'T KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE DEBT. BUT WHAT IF WE FOUND OUT THAT THE $5 BILLION OF DEBT WAS OWNED, A PORTION BY THE BANK OF LIBYA, OR MAYBE THE DEBT WAS OWNED BY AN INVESTMENT HOUSE OPERATING AS A FRONT FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ OR IRAN? WOULDN'T THE TAXPAYER BE CURIOUS? DON'T WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, AS WE SIGN OFF OWN THIS MONEY AS A CONGRESS, TO KNOW WHO THOSE RECIPIENTS ARE? IF TOO MUCH TO DEMAND THAT WHEN THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE USED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO TO PAY OFF ON INVESTOR OR SPECK LAY TORE THAT THE IDENTITY OF THAT INVESTOR OR SPECK LAY TORE BE KNOWN? BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT THIS HAS TO HAPPEN TO SOLIDIFY. ECONOMY OF MEXICO. IT IS GOING TO SOLIDIFY THE OWNERS OF THOSE BEARER NOTES. WELL, WHAT MIGHT AMENDMENT SEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO TRY AND IDENTIFY WHO THOSE HOLD IRS ARE. MR. PRESIDENT, REALITY DICTATES THAT IF MY AMENDMENT AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME WHEN IT IS INTRODUCED PASSES AND MEXICO DOES PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE ARE SEEKING, WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER KNOW WHO REALLY HOLDS THAT DEBT. IT WILL PROBABLY BE REPORTED IN THE NAME OF A BANK OF PANAMA, THE BANK OF BAHAMAS, A COUPLE OF MAJOR BROKERAGE HOUSE FIRMS, BUT I THINK IT IS PORCH THAT THIS BODY FOCUS ON THIS PRINCIPLE, THAT IT WAS AN UNNECESSARY AND UNWISE ACTION TAKEN BY BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE U.S. TAXPAYER, TO FAVOR THE HOLDERS OF AN EXTRAORDINARY TYPE OF FOREIGN DEBT THAT WAS ISSUED OUT THERE, TO MAKE THEM WHOLE, WHEN WE DON'T DO IT TO ANY OTHER INVESTOR WHO BUYS AN OBLIGATION, AND IF THAT OBLIGATION LOSES ITS VALUE, WE DON'T BAIL THEM OUT. BUT WE MAID AN EXCEPTION. NOW THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTED LAST SUNDAY, "MOST OF THOSE INVESTORS, A MIX OF RICH AMERICAN AND OTHER FOREIGNERS, HAVE SWEPT UP THEIR HEFTY PROFITS, AND MADE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERRED THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY OF MEXICO." NOW IF THAT IS TRUE, MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE NOT DONE MEXICO A FAVOR. WE HAVE PUT A BURDEN ON THE MEXICAN TAXPAYER AND THE MEXICAN ECONOMY. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WE EXPECT TO PAY THIS BACK. SO THAT IS THE EXTENT OF MY STATEMENT AND MY CONCERN, MR. PRESIDENT. AND I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE ANGUISHED WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE CONGRESS SHOULD TAKE A POSITION ON THIS MATTER TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE U.S. TAXPAYER, TO MAKE AN ACCOUNTING OF THE WORTHINESS OF A $20 BILLION COMMITMENT. AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE. I WOULD FEEL ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ON THIS MATTER, MR. PRESIDENT, IF I FELT THAT THIS WAS AN INVESTMENT IN THE MEXICAN ECONOMY THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE MEXICAN TAXPAYER. IT IS LIKE IF YOU BORROW MONEY, MR. PRESIDENT, AND I KNOW YOU ARE A BUSINESSMAN, AND YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE MORE MONEY, THAT IS A GOOD THING. YOU ARE EMPLOYING MORE PEOPLE, BUILDING UP INVENTORY, BUT IF YOU BORROW MONEY AND YOU HAVE TO MORTGAGE YOUR INCOME TO PAY ME BACK, I MAY BE DOING YOU A GRAVE DISFAVOR. AND THAT IS THE PRINCIPLE THAT I THINK IS APPLICABLE ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE OF BAILING OUT THIS SELECT GROUP OF INVESTORS WHOM WE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OR IDENTIFICATION OF WHO THEY ARE, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MEXICAN TAXPAYER. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE CONCLUDED MY STATEMENT. I INTEND TO PURSUE THIS MATTER AT A LATER DATE WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES AND THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE VEHICLE. IN THE MEANTIME I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THE MERITS OF MY STATEMENT THIS MORNING RELATIVE TO IDENTIFYING WHO THE BENEFICIARIES ARE OF OUR $20 BILLION COMMITMENT, WHICH IS JUST A PART OF THE CURRENT MEXICAN DEBT WHICH WILL, IN THIS YEAR, REQUIRE SOME $70 BILLION IN ORDER TO MEET THE OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND DUE IN A TIMELY MANNER. I THANK THE CHAIR AND I WISH THE PRESIDENT A GOOD DAY. I YIELD THE FLOOR. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QRNL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I ASK THAT THE QUORUM CALL BE RESCINDED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. FAIRCLOTH

    A BILL WAS INTRODUCED, SENATE BILL NUMBER 603, A BILL TO NULLIFY EXECUTIVE…

    A BILL WAS INTRODUCED, SENATE BILL NUMBER 603, A BILL TO NULLIFY EXECUTIVE ORDER 129-54, WHICH PROHIBITED FEDERAL CONTRACTS WITH ANY COMPANY THAT HIRES PERMANENT RESOMEPLACEMENT FOR STRIKING WORKERS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BILL TO NULLIFY EXECUTIVE ORDER 129-54, WHICH PROHIBITED FEDERAL CONTRACTS…

    BILL TO NULLIFY EXECUTIVE ORDER 129-54, WHICH PROHIBITED FEDERAL CONTRACTS WITH ANY COMPANY THAT HIRES PERMANENT RESOMEPLACEMENT FOR STRIKING WORKERS.

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    MR. FAIRCLOTH

    THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR:

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    YES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS IS SEEKING THE FLOOR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. FAIRCLOTH

    THE REQUEST FOR A QUORUM.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    A QUORUM.

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    MR. FAIRCLOTH

    APOLOGIZES. I WAS RAP TURDE BY THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA. MY HEAD…

    APOLOGIZES. I WAS RAP TURDE BY THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA. MY HEAD WAS TURNED THE WRONG WAY. I RECOGNIZE THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS AND WISH HER A GOOD DAY. MS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I RECOGNIZE THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS AND WISH HER A GOOD DAY. MS.…

    I RECOGNIZE THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS AND WISH HER A GOOD DAY. MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE FIRST 100 DAYS OF CONGRESS AND THE WINNERS AND LOSERS OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." WE HAVE

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    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM THOSE WHO WOULD…

    "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM THOSE WHO WOULD COMPLIMENT THE LEADERS IN THE HOUSE FOR THEIR SPEEDY ANSWERS TO SOME OF THIS NATION'S MOST PRESSING PROBLEMS PROBLEMS. MANY WILL SAY THEY MADE HISTORY FOR THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS SO MANY ISSUES IN A MERE 100 DAYS. I DARE SAY THOUGH IF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" MAKES HISTORY IT WILL NOT BE FOR ITS ACHIEVEMENTS BUT FOR THE RECKLESS MANNER IN WHICH CRITICAL ISSUES HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED. ISSUES THAT HAVE A SEVERE IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF COUNTLESS AMERICANS. AT THE OUTSET, MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT SPENDING MUST BE REDUCED. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE DEFICIT MUST BE BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL. THAT IS WHY I SUPPORTED THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT OUR JOBS AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO SET PRIORITIES AND PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITHIN OUR FISCAL CONSTRAINTS. WHAT THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" DOES IS GIVE THE WEALTHY, THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS THE HIGHER RANKING OVER WORKING-CLASS FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY. I CAN SUM UP THE WINNERS IN THE LAST 100 DAYS EASILY, THE SUPERWEALTHY AND THE BILLIONAIRES. THE LIST OF LOSERS IS MUCH LONGER, CHILDREN, STUDENTS, HARD-WORKING MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES. THE LIST CAN GO ON. THE LOSERS ARE THOSE WHO WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT FROM OUR INVESTMENT IN THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION, QUALITY EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN, JOB TRAINING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS, EFFORTS CALCULATED TO HELP PREPARE THIS NATION FOR THE FUTURE. WHO HAVE BEEN SOME -- I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WINNERS FOR A MINUTE. WHO HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE WINNERS IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS? SOME HAVE REALLY BEEN BIG. THE BIG WINNERS HAVE INCLUDED 24 BILLIONAIRES WHO ESCAPED $1.4 BILLION IN INCOME ANDS STATE TAXES BY RENOUNCING THEIR CITIZENSHIP. THE EX-PAY TRITITS THAT -- EXPATRIATES THAT ABANDONED HELPED THEM GET THE WEALTH. AND THEY TRIED TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE. WE WERE OUTVOTED BY A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY. OUR CURRENT TAX LAWS, MR. PRESIDENT, ARE NOT NEUTRAL. TO FAVOR THOSE WHO WOULD RENOUNCE THEIR CITIZENSHIP OVER HARD-WORKING, LOYAL AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO GET BY IS, IN MY OPINION, UNCONSCIONABLE. A FEW DOZEN EXPATRIATES, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOOPHOLE IN THE LAW -- IN THE TAX LAWS BY REMOVING THEIR ASSETS BEYOND THE REACH OF U.S. TAX JURISDICTIONS JUST BEFORE RENOUNCING THEIR U.S. CITIZENSHIP. IN SO DOING THEY AVOID TAXATION OF THE APPRECIATED VALUE OF ASSETS. WHILE THESE PEOPLE -- AND MOST HAVE -- ENJOYED THE BENEFIT OF UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP IN COUNTLESS WAYS, THEY LOOKED FOR WAYS TO GET AROUND PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. ALTHOUGH -- AND IT GOES TO THE INTERNATIONALIZATION OF THE COMMUNITY AND I MEAN PEOPLE WHO CAN MOVE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY EASILY. IN THIS INSTANCE DECIDE TO RENOUNCE THEIR CITIZENSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY CAN MOVE AROUND THE WORLD. AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS IF GET AROUND PAYING FOR THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. THAT IS NOT FAIR. EVEN THOUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED TO ELIMINATE THIS, IT WAS RESTORED IN CONFERENCE. THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF ASTONISHING. AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE HOUSE WAS PROPOSING TO TAKE MASSIVE CUTS FROM THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, THE HOUSE REP KANTS AT THE SAME TIME CHOSE TO CONTINUE GRANTING MASSIVE BENEFITS TO BILLIONAIRES. AMONG THE OTHER WINNERS ARE THOSE WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE HOUSE TAX-AND-SPENDING PACKAGE THAT WAS LABELED "THE CROWN JEWEL" OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." FRANKLY, I FAIL TO SEE THE GLITZIER OF THIS JEWEL. AMONG THE TAX CUTS IS A PROVISION THAT WILL GIVE FAMILIES THAT PAY TAXES -- THAT PAY TAXES ELIGIBILITY FOR A $500 TAX CREDIT FOR EACH CHILD UNDER AGE 18. THAT IS NOT SO BAD BUT WHEN IT INCLUDES FAMILIES EARNING MORE THAN $200 A YEAR IT SEEMS TO ME THE JEWEL HAS LOST SOME OF ITS SPARKLE. WHAT THIS CROWN JEWEL DOES IS REVERSE AN ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE THAT CREDIT FOR CHILDREN PARTLY -- PARTIALLY REFUNDABLE, MEANING THAT SOME LOW-INCOME WORKING FAMILIES WHO PAID NO INCOME TAX BUT WHO DO PAY SUBSTANTIAL SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE TAXES, THAT THEY COULD HAVE RECEIVED THE CREDIT. THE VERSION NOW THAT HAS BEEN PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE MAKES IT NONREFUNDABLE AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THOSE EARNING $200,000 WILL NOT BE AFFECTEDED, BUT THE WORKING POOR WILL ONCE AGAIN HAVE LOST OUT. AND WHO ELSE LOSES? WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, THOSE TAX LOOPHOLES AND TAX BREAKS THAT WE -- I HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT ARE BEING PAID FOR AT THE EXPENSE OF MIDDLE AMERICANS WHO WILL HAVE TO PAY MORE TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO COLLEGE, OR TO CHILD CARE, OR TO EDUCATE THEIR YOUNGSTERS OR TO PROVIDE JUST FOR THEIR DAILY LIVING. THESE BREAKS ARE ALSO BEING PAID FOR BY POOR CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY, ACTUALLY NOT JUST POOR CHILDREN, MIDDLE-CLASS CHILDREN AS WELL -- THOUSANDS OF KIDS WHO ARE ON WAITING LISTS RIGHT NOW TO ATTEND HEAD START PROGRAMS. FOR EXAMPLE, MR. PRESIDENT, IN CHICAGOAL, ILLINOIS, MY STATE, ONLY 26% OF ALL POOR CHILDREN, QUALIFYING FOR HEAD START, ARE ABLE TO ATTEND HEAD START AND GET THE BENEFITS OF THE EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE OF SLOTS AVAILABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE MANY OTHER EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WILL SUFFER AS A RESULT OF THE PAST 100 DAYS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REVIEW IN SOMEWHAT GREATER DETAIL THE CONSEQUENCE OF THESE ILL-CONSIDERED ACTIONS TO DECIMATE PROGRAMS THAT INVEST IN THE -- THIS COUNTRY'S FUTURE. MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY IT IS VITAL TO THE TESTS OF OUR NATION THAT WE MAINTAIN QUALITY, PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR ALL AMERICANS. EDUCATION IS NOT JUST A PRIVATE BENEFIT, IT IS A PUBLIC GOOD AS WELL. IT IS THE CORNERSTONE OF A HEALTHY DEMOCRACY AND AS A SOCIETY -- AS A SOCIETY AS A WHOLE WE ALL BENEFIT FROM A WELL-EDUCATED CITIZENRY. WHAT QUALITY EDUCATION RESULTS IN IS THE MEANS BY WHICH WE PREPARE FOR OUR CHILDREN TO SUCCEED, TO EARN A LIVING, PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THOSE COMMUNITIES. EDUCATION IS A VEHICLE ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS HELPED -- RESHAPED OUR WORKPLACE. MR. PRESIDENT, OUR COUNTRY IS EXPERIENCING A BRAND NEW ERA IN ECONOMIC COMPETITION. IF WE ARE TO SUCCEED AND RETAIN OUR COMPETITIVENESS, INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, THERE MUST BE A RENEWED COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION IN THIS COUNTRY. I DARE SAY THAT THE DIRECTION AND THE RESULTS OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" AND OF THIS FIRST 100 DAYS IS NOT TO RENEW THAT COMMITMENT, BUT TO TAKE A RETRENCHMENT FROM IT. THE RESULTS, MR. PRESIDENT, OF A FAILED COMMITMENT TO OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WILL HAVE DIRECT RAMIFICATIONS ON THIS COUNTRY'S WORK FORCE. THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND OUR COUNTRY'S ECONOMY. EVERY DAY BUSINESSES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE TRYING TO COPE WITH THE FACT THAT A GREAT PERCENTAGE, TOO HIGH A PERCENTAGE OF OUR WORK FORCE, FRANKLY, IS FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE. EVERY DAY THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE BEING TOLD THAT THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR JOBS BECAUSE THEY LACK A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR COLLEGE DEGREE. MR. PRESIDENT, CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION MEANS JOBS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT MEANS OUR ABILITY TO COMPETE IN THIS WORLD ECONOMY IS ENHANCED. TO RETRENCH FROM THAT COMMITMENT IT SEEMS TO ME IS EXTREMELY SHORTSIGHTED. NONETHELESS AS OTHER LEADERS OF OTHER COUNTRIES CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THE INCREASING IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION, MANY IN OUR COUNTRY, UNFORTUNATELY, CONTINUE TO WEAR BLINDERS ON THIS POINT. I BELIEVE THAT WE MUST NOT RETREAT FROM OUR COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION. TO SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT THE RESCISSIONS BILL THAT HAS COME OVER HERE, THE RESCISSIONS BILL SENT TO THIS CHAMBER BY THE HOUSE WOULD CUT $1.7 BILLION -- $1.7 BILLION FROM THE 1995 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION BUDGET. IF ENACTED THAT LEGISLATION WOULD CUT $481 MILLION FROM THE SAFE DRUG-FREE SCHOOLS EFFORT, $261 MILLION FROM VOCATIONAL EDUCATION AND LITERACY PROGRAMS, $186 MILLION FROM THE GOALS 2000 PROGRAM, WHICH YOU KNOW IS THE EFFORT TO SET SOME NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR EXCELLENCE, $131 MILLION FROM CHAPTER I, WHICH IS THE EFFORT TO HELP EQUALIZE SCHOOL DISTRICT FUNDING IN POORER COMMUNITIES, AND $50 MILLION FROM THE BILINGUAL EDUCATION, THE HOUSE ALSO RECOMMENDED RESCINDING CRITICAL FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS WHICH ADVANCE OUR EDUCATION -- NATION'S EDUCATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WHICH I WILL ALSO ADDRESS. THOSE CUTS INCLUDE AGAIN $30 MILLION FROM THE EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM, A PROGRAM THAT PROMOTES EQUAL ACCESS FOR EL MEN TAR RAIN SECONDARY STUDENTS TO THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH ADVANCED IN TECHNOLOGY, AND IT CUTS $10 MILLION FROM THE STAR SCHOOLS, WHICH WAS AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE INSTRUCTION IN MATH, SCIENCE, FOREIGN LANGUAGE AND OTHER SUBJECTS THROUGH TELECOMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGIES. THAT PROGRAM -- THE STAR SCHOOLS PROGRAM ALSO SUPPORTS PARTNERSHIPS, ORGANIZED ON A STATEWIDE OR MULL SY STATE BASIS TO DEVELOP ACQUIRE TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMMING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. THE HOUSE BILL ALSO CUT $2.7 MILLION FROM THE READY-TO-LEARN PROGRAM, WHICH WAS THE FIRST NATIONAL GOAL -- THE FIRST NATIONAL GOAL WHICH STATES ALL CHILDREN SHOULD START SCHOOL EARLY -- READY TO LEARN. SO THIS EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION EFFORT HAS ALSO BEEN CUT. MR. PRESIDENT, LAST YEAR I ASKED THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE TO CONDUCT A NATIONWIDE STUDY ON THE CONDITION OF OUR NATION PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES. EARLIER THIS WEEK I ALSO ELABORATED ON THE SECOND -- THAT WAS THE FIRST REPORT -- EARLIER THIS WEEK I ELABORATED ON THE SECOND REPORT RELEASED THIS WEEK BY THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE, WHICH FOCUSES ON OUR EDUCATION -- NATION'S EDUCATION TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. I WOULD LIKE JUST FOR A MOMENT TO BREEFRLY COMMENT ON THIS CRITICAL SUBJECT AGAIN. THANK YOU. PUT THE FIRST ONE UP, THE ONE THAT SAYS -- OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S FINE. THE G.A.O. REPORT CONCLUDED THAT OUR NATION'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT DESIGNED OR SUFFICIENTLY EQUIPPED TO PREPARE OUR CHILDREN FOR THE 21ST CENTURY. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE G.A.O. FOUND THAT MORE THAN HALF OF OUR NATION'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS LACK SIX OR MORE OF THE TECHNOLOGY ELEMENTS NECESSARY TO REFORM THE WAY THE TEACHERS TEACH AND STUDENTS LEARN, INCLUDING COMPUTERS, PRINTERS, MODEMS, CABLE TV'S LASER DISC PLAYERS, V.R.R.'S AND TV'S. IN FACT THE G.A.O. REPORT THAT MORE OF OUR NATION'S SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THESE IMPORTANT AUDIO, VIDEO, AND DATA SYSTEMS. IN FACT, ONE PART OF THE REPORT RECOUNTED A TEACHER -- TEACHERS IN A SCHOOL THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CLASSROOM ONLY HAD TWO OUTLETS AND IF THEY WENT TO PLUG IN COMPUTERS OR PLUG IN TELEVISIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE OF THAT MATTER, IT MORE THAN -- IN MORE THAN ONE CLASSROOM IN THE SCHOOL, PLUGGED INTO THE TWO OUTLETS AT THE SAME TIME, THE CIRCUIT BREAKERS WOULD GO AND THE WHOLE BUILDING WOULD BE SHUT DOWN. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT THE G.A.O. REPORT MOST IMPORTANTLY CONFIRMED, FRANKLY, OUR WORST FEARS, THE AVAILABILITY OF EDUCATION TECHNOLOGY IN OUR NATION'S SCHOOLS IS DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH COMMUNITY-TYPE, THE PERCENTAGE OF MINORITY STUDENTS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS. IT ALSO FOUND THAT THE PROBLEM IS AS MUCH A RURAL PROBLEM AS IT IS AN URBAN PROBLEM. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE. AND THE PROPOSED CUTS IN EDUCATION INITIATIVES VOTED ON BY THE HOUSE ARE, IN MY OPINION, SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE THERE. IS TO REASON WHY OUR NATION'S CHILDREN SHOULD NOT HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE BEST EDUCATION TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES AVAILABLE. LET ME MENTION BRIEFLY ALSO THE FIRST G.A.O. REPORT WHICH WAS RELEASED IN FEBRUARY ON THE STATE OF SCHOOL FACILITIES. THAT REPORT FOUND THAT OUR NATION'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED $112 BILLION TO RESTORE THEIR FACILITIES TO GOOD -- ONLY GOOD -- NOT EXCELLENT -- GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO THAT REPORT? WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO OUR NATION'S SCHOOLCHILDREN? I'M SORRY TO REPORT, MR. PRESIDENT, THE HOUSE RESCISSIONS BILL WOULD ALSO SLASH FUNDING FOR THE NEW -- FOR ALL NEW EDUCATION INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE EDUCATION INFRASTRUCTURE ACT WHICH I INTRODUCED LAST APRIL TO HELP SCHOOL BOARDS IMPROVE THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS OF THEIR SCHOOLS AND ENSURE THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF OUR STUDENTS. WHILE THE SENATE BILL, THE SENATE VERSION, DOES RESTORE OM OF THE EDUCATIONAL FUNDING, AGAIN THE CUTS ARE STILL DEEP AND WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. I WOULD LIKE TO USE AND TALK ABOUT MY OWN STATE OF ILLINOIS FOR A MOMENT. BY WAY OF EXAMPLE. SOME OF THE SENATE -- OF THE RECOMMENDED CUTS WILL RESULT IN THE FOLLOWING LOSSS TO THE CHILDREN OF ILLINOIS, ALONE. THIS IS JUST CHILDREN IN ILLINOIS. UNDER TITLE I, ILLINOIS WILL LOSE SOME $3.4 MILLION. SAFE AND DRUG-FREE SCHOOLS, ILLINOIS WILL LOSE SOME $4.3 MILLION; GOALS 2000; ILLINOIS WILL LOSE $2.4 MILLION. AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS, IN TERMS OF SETTING PRIORITIES, DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS BODY TO REFUSE TO CLOSE LOOPHOLES ON BILLIONAIRES THAT RENOUNCE THEIR UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE CUTTING FUNDING FOR EDUCATION? I DON'T THINK THAT IT DOES. MR. PRESIDENT, THE ATTACK ON EDUCATION THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE LAST 100 DAYS DOES NOT STOP AT THE GRADE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVELS. COLLEGE STUDENTS AND MIDDLE-INCOME AMERICAN FAMILIES WILL ALSO PAY A HIGHER PRICE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROPOSED ELIMINATION OF FOUR HIGHER EDUCATION INITIATIVES, THE SUPPLEMENTAL EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY GRANTS, FEDERAL WORK STUDY, THE PERKINS LOANS AND THE STATE STUDENT INCENTIVE GRANTS ALONG BE IN-SCHOOL FORGIVENESS EXEMPTS ON STUDENT LOANS WILL INCREASE THE COST OF COLLEGE EDUCATION FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES BY SOME $20 BILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. ELIMINATING THE SUBSIDY ON SCHOOL INTEREST FORGIVENESS -- STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS WOULD MEAN THE FOLLOWING FOR MIDDLE-AMERICAN FAMILIES. $4.5 MILLION CURRENT BORROWSERS WILL ACCRUE INTEREST WHILE THEY ARE STILL IN SCHOOL. A STUDENT WHO BORROWS $17,125 OVER FOUR YEARS WOULD OWE $3,150 OR MORE TO HAVE HIS HER MONTHLY PAYMENTS INCREASE BY MORE THAN 18%; AND IN MY HOME STATE OF ILLINOIS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO WILL PAY MORE FOR STUDENT LOANS WILL INCREASE BY $198 -- 198,000 -- ACTUALLY $198,053. THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA"'S ATTACK ON YOUNG PEOPLE I THINK CONTINUES. THE AITEM NPTS THE HOUSE TO GUT THE AMERICORPS PROGRAM WOULD ELIMINATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSE OF STUDENTS TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY WHILE EARNING MONEY FOR THEIR OWN EDUCATION. A PROMISE THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO THESE THOUSANDS OF YOUNG AMERICANS, THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE, THE CHARITABLE THEY WORK WITH, AND THE PARTNERS WHO SHARE THE COST OF THE NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAM WILL BE BROKEN. THOUSANDS OF WORKING FAMILIES WHO DEPEND ON THE PROMISE OF COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR SERVICE WILL LOSE THIS VALUABLE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. THE HOUSE RESCISSION ON AMERICORPS WILL MEAN THAT THE ALMOST 700 PROJECTED NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO COULD TAKE PART IN THE PROGRAM IN FY 1995 WILL BE REJECTED. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO USE TO THE CITY TO REFER TO A PROGRAM OUT OF CHICAGO KAUD "CITY-YEAR." THE MODEL PROGRAM THAT AMERICORPS WAS BASED ON. AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY STUDENTS IN THE CHICAGO AREA. SOME OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE WORK THEY DO INCLUDES THE ALTER ROUTINES, THOSE ARE KIDS WHO -- YOUNG PEOPLE -- I SHOULDN'T SAY KIDS -- YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH BETHEL NEW LIFE, A COMMUNITY CORPORATION IN GARFIELD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOW-INCOME AREA IN CHICAGO. THEIR PROJECTS INCLUDED DESIGNING AND PILOTING A COMPUTER LITERACY PROGRAM FOR ADULTS AND ASSISTING IN THE RENOVATION OF BOTH THE HOSPITAL, WHICH WILL BECOME SENIOR HOUSING, AND A SCHOOL THAT WILL BECOME A HOUSE FOR BATTERED WOMEN. BETHEL NEW LIFE PROJECT GETTING THIS PROJECT WILL BE IMPAIRED BECAUSE THE AMERICORPS WORKERS MAY WELL NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. AMERICORPS, THE CITY-YEAR GROUP ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRST CHICAGO HARRIS, LASALL AND NORTHERN TRUST TEAMS. THESE ARE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THE IN THE CHICAGO AREA IN WHICH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE RUNNING A TEACHING ASSISTANT PROGRAM AT THE BRYAN PIC SKRFMT ELO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN A PUBLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SERVING APPROXIMATELY 966 LOW-INCOME STUDENTS. EACH TEAM MEMBER FROM CITY-YEAR WORKS AS A TEACHING ASSISTANT IN A CLASSROOM TUTORING CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, ASSISTING IN BILINGUAL CLASSES AND HELPING TO IMPLEMENT ART AND PHYSICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. AGAIN CITY-YEAR FUNDING -- THEIR EXISTENCE IS PUT INTO JEOPARDY BY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 100 DAYS. THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT IS BEING DONE TO IF AMERICORPS PROGRAM AFTER ONLY SIX MONTHS OF OPERATION. AND I WOULD FRANKLY LIKE AT THIS POINT TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD A COMPLETE LIST OF THE AMERICORPS COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAMS THAT ARE PRESENTLY UNDERWAY IN MY STATE OF ILLINOIS.

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  • 10:50:33 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ELDERLY, STUDENTS, PERSONS WITH AIDS, PEOPLE IN NEED, PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP…

    ELDERLY, STUDENTS, PERSONS WITH AIDS, PEOPLE IN NEED, PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AND ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY. AMERICORPS MEMBERS

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  • 10:50:35 AM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    IN NEED, PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AND ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY.…

    IN NEED, PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AND ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY. AMERICORPS MEMBERS HAVE TAUGHT OR TUTORED MORE THAN 9,000 PRESCHOOL, ELEMENTARY AND JEW YOUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN BASIC EDUCATIONAL SKILLS. THEY HAVE LAUNCHED AFTER-SCHOOL AND SUMMER TUTORIAL PROGRAMS FOR MORE THAN 4,600 KIDS AND ORGANIZED HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY PROJECTS, CLEANING UP NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROVIDING FOOD FOR THE ELDERLY. IN CLOSING, MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE -- WHAT HAS HAPPENED AGAIN IS REGRETTABLE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED I THINK IS AN EXAMPLE OF REALLY A SKEWED SET OF PRIORITIES. BY PROVIDING THE LONG-NEEDED -- LONG OVERDUE SUPPORT FOR JOB TRAINING AND CHILDREN, WE INVEST IN OUR COUNTRY'S FUTURE. CUTTING THESE OPPORTUNITIES NOW CLEARLY, THINK, TAKES NEWS THE WRONG DIRECTION. WE MUST NOT RETRENCH ON OUR COMMITMENTS TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND TO AMERICAN FAMILIES. MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE THE CELEBRATING OF THE FIRST 100 DAYS BEGINS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHO HAS BEEN INVITED TO THIS PARTY. IF YOU ARE A BILLIONAIRE, OR IF YOU ARE PART OF THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE SUPERWEALTHY IN THIS COUNTRY, YOUR INVITATION HAS BEEN SIGNED, SEALED AND DELIVERED. FOR THE REST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE CHILDREN, THE STUDENTS, HARD-WORKING, MIDDLE-INCOME AMERICANS, THE ELD ALREADYLY, THE POOR, I DARE SAY YOUR INVITATION WAS NEVER SENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS A SHAME, IT SEEMS TO ME, MR. PRESIDENT, WHAT IS GOING ON AND WE -- AND I PERSON LYNN TEND TO DO EVERY THINGS I CAN TO BRING THE MESSAGE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT IN THESE TIMES AND THESE TIGHT BUDGET TIMES IT IS INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO COME TOGETHER AS AMERICANS TO PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, THE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE FREEDOMS AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT CONSTITUTE THE CORE OF THIS AMERICAN DREAM, NOT BE LOST IN OUR ZEAL TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS. WE IN THIS CONGRESS -- WE IN THIS BELTWAY, HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND SEE THEM AS APPROPRIATIONS ISSUES AND DOLLARS FIGURES, BUT EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR, MR. PRESIDENT, TRANSLATES TO -- TRANSLATES IN REAL TERMS TO ITS EFFECT IN -- IN ITS EFFECT ON SOME REAL PERSON IN OUR COUNTRY. WE WANT TO BE FAIR. WE WANT TO PROVIDE FOR DEFICIT REDUCTION. WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE -- APPROACH OUR BUDGET ISSUES IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIVE WAY. I CERTAINLY SIGN ON TO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MR. PRESIDENT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS PENNY-WISE AND POUND-FOOLISH UNDER THE GUYS OF MAKING POLITICAL POINTS TO TAKE THOSE POINTS OUT OF THE HIDES OF THE POOR, OUT OF THE CHILDREN, OUT OF OUR INVESTMENTS IN OUR COUNTRY'S FUTURE. AND SO, MR. PRESIDENT, I INTEND IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THE "CONTRACT. "AND WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 100 DAYS. AND I HOPE WE WILL BE ABLE TO PREVAIL IN THIS BODY ON THE REASONABLE MINDS OF OUR COLLEAGUES TO RECOGNIZE HOW SHORTSIGHTED IT IS TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE MOVED. CERTAINLY, CUTS HAVE TO HAPPEN. CERTAINLY WE CAN FIND THINGS THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE PAIR BACK AND REDUCE THE RATE OF GROWTH OF SPENDING. BUT I DON'T THINK, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IT OUGHT TO BE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CHILDREN AND THE POOR IN THIS COUNTRY. MR. PRESIDENT, I'M GOING -- THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOW -- I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD MY STATEMENT ON -- SUBMIT MY STATEMENT ON WINNERS AND LOSERS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 10:54:25 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    KIND OF AN ALMOST IRONIC WAY. I'LL MAKE THE CONNECTION LATER. ANOTHER

  • 10:54:27 AM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    I'LL MAKE THE CONNECTION LATER. ANOTHER SUBJECT THAT IS PROBABLY AS…

    I'LL MAKE THE CONNECTION LATER. ANOTHER SUBJECT THAT IS PROBABLY AS CONTROVERSIAL AS THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 100 DAYS. I RECENTLY MET, MR. PRESIDENT, WITH A GROUP OF CONCERNED WOMEN IN ILLINOIS TO DISCUSS THE CONTINUED RELEVANCE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. THE IDEA OF THE MEETING AROSE QUITE NATURALLY WITH ANY DEBATE HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON, TRY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE IN MY STATE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY CHANGES THAT CONGRESS MIGHT MAKE IN ORDER TO GET THEIR INPUT AND GAIN THE BENEFIT OF THEIR COLLECTIVE VIEWS. THE MEETING WAS ARRANGED DURING THE LAST -- WASN'T EVEN A BREAK. I THINK WE HAD TWO DAYS OFF, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO GET BACK HOME AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE. BUT SO THE MEETING WAS ARRANGED SOMEWHAT HASTILY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR IT. NOR WERE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE INTERESTED PARTIES WITH A LOT OF ADVANCED NOTICE. HOWEVER, AS IT TURNED OUT, THE MEETING WAS RESOUNDINGLY SUCCESSFUL. I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE EVEN IMAGINED HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WOULD BE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD COME ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE. WITH ONLY A FEW DAY'S NOTICE, MR. PRESIDENT, MY OFFICE WAS FILLED WITH WOMEN WHO SPANNED THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SPECTRUM. THEY WERE WOMEN WHO HAD SPENT THEIR LIVES DOING GRASS ROOTS POLITICAL ORGANIZING, AND THOSE WOMEN WHO HAD SPENT THEIR LIVES WORKING IN CORPORATE AMERICA, THERE WERE WOMEN WHO STARTERED THEIR OWN BUSINESSES FROM SCRATCH AND WOMEN WORKING IN UNIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS, AND MANY OF THE WOMEN PRESENT HAD ALSO SPENT YEARS EXCLUSIVELY AS HOMEMAKERS. AND DESPITE THE DIVERSITY OF VIEW POINTS AND BACKGROUNDS REPRESENTED AT THE MEETING, THERE WAS A NEAR-UNANIMITY OF RESPONSE. THE WOMEN IN THAT ROOM WANTED TO KNOW WHY CONGRESS WOULD CHOSE THIS MOMENT IN TIME TO TURN ITS BACK ON THE PROMISE OF EQUAL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHEN SO MUCH WORK REMAINS YET TO BE DONE. WHEN AT A TIME WHEN DESPITE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS, AS THE REPORT THAT WAS JUST ISSUED LAST WEEK SHOWS CLEARLY, A GLASS CEILING, IF YOU WILL, STILL PREVENTS QUALITY WOMEN AND MINORITIES FROM MAKING FULL USE OF THEIR COLLECTIVE TALENTS. THE WOMEN IN THE -- AT THE MEETING WANTED TO KNOW HOW CONGRESS COULD IGNORE THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BENEFITS NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS BUT EMPLOYERS, AND SOCIETY AS WELL. AND FINALLY THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO TO HELP PRESERVE THIS COUNTRY'S COMMITMENT TO EQUALITY, AND TO OPPORTUNITY AND TO FAIRNESS. EVERY WOMEN THERE AGREED THAT THE REALITY WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE ABSENCE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. THEY AGREED THAT THEY WERE BEING PROVIDED OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE CLIMATE CREATED BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HELPED TO ENCOURAGE DIVERSE SYTY AND INCLUSION AND HELPED OPEN UP FIELDS OF ENDEAVOR THAT MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN CLOSEED TO THEM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY EVERY WOMEN -- AS IMPORTANTLY -- EVERY WOMEN THERE COULD RECALL A ROADBLOCK PLACED IN HER WAY AS SHE TRIED THE BECOME EQUAL PARTICIPANTS -- AN EQUAL PARTICIPANT IN THE MARKETPLACE. THESE BARRIERS ARE NOT A SUBJECT THAT WOMEN GENERALLY DISCUSS. THE ROADBLOCKS THAT ONE RUNS INTO BECAUSE OF GENDER. THEY FRANKLY -- MOST WOMEN WOULD PREFER TO MEET THE ROADBLOCKS AND THE RUTS IN THE ROAD, IF YOU WILL, HEAD ON, ON THEIR OWN TO OVERCOME THEM IF POSSIBLE, AND TO MOVE ON. BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT ALL THE WOMEN THERE AGREED THAT THE -- CONGRESSIONAL ACTION COULD NOT ONLY SERVE TO PUT CEMENT ON THE GLASS CEILING AND TO MAKE THOSE HURTLES HIGHER AND IF IT DID, IF THAT HAPPENED THAT THE BO MEN WOULD COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK. CALLS, LETTERS, AND AND PHONE CALLS WERE POURING IN FROM ACROSS THIS NATION, I BELIEVE, IF WOMEN TELL THEIR STORIES AND UNDERSCORES AND THIS -- THIS FEELING UNDERSCORES WHY WOMEN CANNOT AND WILL NOT TURN BACK. THE SENSE IN THE ROOM, FRANKLY, WAS THAT MANY OF THESE WOMEN WERE IN BUSINESSES THAT WOMEN, AS A GROUP, COULD NOT EVEN GO INTO 20 YEARS AGO. MANY OF THE WOMEN IN THE ROOM WERE IN JOBS OR RECEIVED PROMOTIONS THAT WITH WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THEM 20 YEARS AGO. ALL OF THEM FELT THAT THE EXISTENCE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN THE LAWS AND IN EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN THIS COUNTRY HAD OPEN OPENED DOORS AND CREATED A CLIMATE OF DIVERSITY AND CLIMATE FOR THEIR INCLUSION. AND WHILE MANY OF THESE WOMEN ALSO FELT THAT THERE WAS STILL BARRIERS AND THE GLASS CEILING WAS VERY REEL, ALL OF THEM CONCURRED THAT EFFORTS IN THIS CONGRESS ARE UNDERWAY TO -- TO RETREN FRCH AND RETREAT FROM THE COMMITMENT TO EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN THE WORKPLACE WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF PUTTING CEMENT ON THE GLASS CEILING AND MAKING IT HARDER FOR WOMEN TO PARTICIPATE IN ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY. GIVEN THE ENTHUSIASTIC REACTION IN MY OFFICE I WAS NOT SURPRISEED TO LEARN TWO DAYS AGO THAT A "COALITION FOR EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" IS BEING FORMED IN ILLINOIS. AT A PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE 17TH OF APRIL, MORE THAN 40 WOMEN CIVIL RIGHTS, LABOR, RELIGIOUS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS ANNOUNCED THEIR INTENTION TO WORK TO PRESERVE EQUALITY AND FAIRNESS IN ILLINOIS AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION. THEY ANNOUNCED THEIR INTENTION TO BEGIN TO GALVANIZE AND WORK TO EXPLAIN TO WOMEN WHAT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION REALLY MEANS, THE TRUTH OF UT. AND I GAVE A STATEMENT ON THE FLOOR THE OTHER NIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT, IN WHICH I WENT INTO DETAIL OR MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE TRUTH ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, WHAT THE MYTHS ARE, WHAT THE REALITIES ARES AND HOW PARTICULARLY WOMEN WILL BE AFFECTED. WOMEN AND MINORITIES WILL BE AFFECTED. NOW, FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WONDERING IF THE REACTION OF THAT GROUP IS TYPICAL, I CAN ASSURE YOU IT IS NOT. THERE'S A TENDENCY HERE AGAIN IN WASHINGTON TO GET WRAPPED UP ON WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE SENATE FLOOR. SOME TYPES WE LOSE SIGHT IN WHAT PEOPLES PEOPLE ARE SAYING IN REAL WORLD, WHAT IS GOING ON IN COMMUNITIES. BUT ESSENTIALLY -- IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT THERE'S AN OLD EXPRESSION "HOW DOES IT PLAY IN PEORIA" IN MY STATE OF ILLINOIS. DOES IT PLAY IN PEORIA? THIS IS A SHORTHAND WAY TO CUT THROUGH THE POLITICS AND THE GET WAY SENSE OF IT AND GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT PEOPLE OUT IN THE COUNTRY THINK ABOUT AN ISSUE. WELL, MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A -- THERE WAS A MAJOR STORY THAT APPEARED IN THE "PEORIA JOURNAL STAR," A MAJOR NEWSPAPER IN PEORIA. THAT GIVES US AN IDEA ON AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HOW AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS PLAYING IN PEORIA. THE HEADLINE OF THE ARTICLE READS -- IS HEADLINE IS -- I QUOTE -- "TOWARD A MIDDLE GROUFRND, RETHINK AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BUT DON'T KILL IT. ISSUE DEMANDS CAUTION." I WILL ASK THAT THE ENTIRE TEXT BE PLACED IN THE RECORD FOLLOWING MY REMARKS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN: I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS A FEW POINTS MADE BY THAT ARTICLE BECAUSE I THINK IT IS HELPFUL FOR THOSE OF US IN THIS BODY TO KNOW AT LEAST HOW SOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA'S HEARTLAND FEEL ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AS AN ISSUE.

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  • 11:01:22 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IN THIS BODY TO KNOW AT LEAST HOW SOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA'S HEARTLAND FEEL…

    IN THIS BODY TO KNOW AT LEAST HOW SOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA'S HEARTLAND FEEL ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AS AN ISSUE.

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  • 11:01:24 AM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    LEAST HOW SOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA'S HEARTLAND FEEL ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION…

    LEAST HOW SOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA'S HEARTLAND FEEL ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AS AN ISSUE. FIRST AND FOREMOST THE PEOPLE IN PEORIA ARE ECHOING THE CONCLUSIONS REACHED LAST WEEK BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR'S GLASS CEILING REPORT AND THE REPORT WAS ENTITLED "AFFIRMATIVE ACTION MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE." AS THE ARTICLE STATED -- I QUOTE -- A "A HALF DOZEN PEORIA PEOPLE CONTACTED OVER THE LAST WEEK SAID THEY MAKE -- I QUOTE -- MAKE SPECIAL EFFORTS TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY NOT BECAUSE THE FEDERAL REGULATEERS ARE ON THEIR BACK BUT BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR INTEREST. IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES AND WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS A BLACK COP OR TEACHER CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE. A RAPE VICTIM MAY BE MORE WILLING THE TELL HER STORY TO A FEMALE REPORTER. A HISPANIC SAILS MAN MAY BE BETTER ABLE TO REACH THAT MARKET. IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE MINORITIES WHO BENEFIT FROM ATTENDING COLLEGE MADE WISEER IF YOU WILL, FOR HAVING BLACK CLASSMATES AND ROOMMATES. MR. PRESIDENT, THESE ARE BUSINESSES IN PEORIA, NOT NEW YORK OR SHIFMT THIS IS MAIN STREET, NOT PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. AND THESE MAIN STREETERS RECOGNIZE THAT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS MORE THAN A PRIVATE BENEFIT. IT, TOO, IS A PUBLIC GOOD. IF WE CAN OPEN OPPORTUNITY TO A STUDENT OR TO A JOB APPLICANT WHO HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY EXCLUDED FROM CONSIDERATION, OBVIOUSLY, THAT INDIVIDUAL BENEFITS. WHAT IS LESS OBVIOUS, HOWEVER, AND WHAT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, IS THAT OUR SOCIETY BENEFITS AS WELL. THE JOURNAL -- "JOURNAL STARS" ARTICLE POINTED OUT THAT WHILE AMERICA HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES IN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, THERE IS STILL MUCH WORK TO BE DOFNLT THE DREAM OF AMERICA AS A COLOR-BLIND SOCIETY HAS NOT YET BEEN REALIZED EVEN THOUGH ALL OF US WANT, I THINK, TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. THERE ARE STILL ENTIRE PROFESSIONS AND ENTIRE COMPANIES AND ENTIRE INDUSTRIES, FOR THAT MATTER, THAT REMAIN VIRTUALLY OFFLIMITS TO WOMEN AND MINORITIES, PARTICULARLY AT THE UPPER LEVELS. THE GLASS CEILING REPORT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ISSUED REACHED THAT CONCLUSION AFTER YEARS OF PAINSTAKING RESEARCH. IN REALITY, ALL PEOPLE NEED TO DO, FRANKLY, IS LOOK AROUND THEIR BOARDROOM OR THE CLASSROOMS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AND THE TRUTH OF T AS CLARENCE BROWN, WHO IS PERSONNEL DIRECTOR OF PEORIA'S BRADLEY UNIVERSITY STATED, "EVERYONE STILL BELIEVES THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS FORCING BUSINESSES TO HIRE MINORITIES. IT IS NOT. AT EVERY WORKSHOP, SOMEBODY BRINGS THAUP. WE SAY, LOOK AROUND YOU AND IN MOVES THOSE WORKSHOPS THERE ARE NO MINORITIES AT ALL AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE WHITE MALES." AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND WILL SAY GERNGS I THINK AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAMS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW. EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FROM TIME TO TIME SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REVIEW AND RETREAT. AND IN FACT I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW THAT WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT RETREAT DOES NOT MEAN RETRENCHMENT. IT IS IMPORTANT THEAFRTSS TO PROMOTE FAIRNESS IS FAIR TO EVERYBODY. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO AND THAT WE WEED OUT THE FRONTSANT THE PHONY COMPANIES AND THE BUREAUCRATS THAT RUN AMOK AND MAKE RATIONAL REGULATIONS IRRATIONALE AND QUICK SOD I CAN. SO REVIEW CAN BE EMBRACED AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. BUT IT SHOULD NEVER BE USED AS AN EXCUSE FOR RETRENCHMENT FROM IT. MR. PRESIDENT, AS THE PEORIA JOURNAL STAR ARTICLES CONCLUDED,, " IT WOULD BE A MRS. STAKE TO ABANDON THE BROAD COMMITMENT TO ACT ATIRMIVELY TO MAKE FOR A MORE INEXCLUSIVE AMERICA TO RECRUIT TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE AND DIVERSITY, TO PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE REGARDLESS OF SEX OR COLOR WHO HAVE TOO LITTLE FROM THE MOMENT OF BIRTH." IN OTHER WORDS, AN ABSENCE OF DISCRIMINATION IS NOT ENOUGH. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, EMPLOYERS, AND OUR UNIVERSITIES NEED TO CONTINUE STILL -- NEED STILL TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL GROUPS AND ENSURE THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUCK SEEDS IN AMERICA. MR. PRESIDENT, SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT EVEN IF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ORDER IS REPEALED, BUSINESSS WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK OUT DIVERSITY BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THAT IS POSSIBLE. BUT, MR. PRESIDENT, I FRANKLY DON'T THINK THAT PROMOTION OF DIVERSITY WOULD PROCEED AS RAPIDLY IN THE ABSENCE OF LEGAL GUIDANCE. INDEED, IT IS LIKELY TO SLOW DOWN. AND SOME OF THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT WHERE THERE HAS BEEN -- THAT WHERE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE CHANGED, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EFFORTS HAVE SLOWED DOWN. THE MORE PROBABLE SCENARIO IS DESCRIBED THIS WAY IN THE ARTICLE FROM "THE BEORIA PAPER." AND I QUOTE. "THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THEANDSING FEDERAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION MANDATES WILL MAKE OUR WORKPLACES AND CAMPUSES LOOK MORE DRAMATIC. IT WILL FADE AS TIME PASSES. BLACKS SHACKLED BY POOR SCHOOLS AND SINGLE-PARENT FAMILIES WILL BE MORE DISADVANTAGED THAN THEY ALREADY ARE IN COMPETITION FOR GOOD SPOTS IN GOOD COLLEGES NECESSARY TO PUT THEM IN COMPETITION FOR GOOD JOBS. MINORITIES AND WOMEN WHO WOULD BE OTHERWISE COMPETITIVE WILL RUN UP AGAINST THE GOOD-OLD-BOYS NETWORK AND THE HUMAN TENDENCY TOWARD THE FAMILIAR, TO GIVE THE JOB TO SOMEBODY WHO LOOKS AND THINKS AS YOU DO." THAT WHAT WE WANT FROM THIS COUNTRY? IS THAT WHAT WE WANT AMERICA TO MEAN? THAT SCENARIO, MR. PRESIDENT, RUNS COUNTER TO THE AMERICAN DREAM, THE DREAM OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE, THE DREAM OF BEING ABLE TO TRAVEL AS FAR AS YOUR ABILITY WILL TAKE YOU OR AS MANY PARENTS PUT IT TO THEIR CHILDREN, THE DREAM THAT ANY ONE OF US COULD GROW UP TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. IF THAT DREAM IS TO HAVE ANY BASIS IN REALITY, I BELIEVE WE CANNOT RETRENCH FROM OUR COMMITMENT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. TO THOSE WHO WILL EASILY DISMISS THE "PEORIA JOURNAL STAR'S" OBSERVATIONS AND MY REMARKS ON THIS SUBJECT -- AND AGAIN I HAVE ALREADY MADE ONE MORE DETAILED SPEECH ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND I INTEND TO MAKE OTHERS ABOUT THIS ISSUE TO FOCUS IN ON PARTICULAR PARTS OF THE DEBATE AND PARTICULAR ISSUES GOING TO THE FACTS OF THIS ISSUE -- I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND WHOEVER IS LISTENING, ILLINOIS HAS LONG BEEN A BELL-WEATHER STATE ON THE ISSUE OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. INFORMATION, AS FAR AS 1914, A WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE KAPPA SUFFICIENT RAJ CLUB RECOGNIZED THE EQUALITY FOR WOMEN AND MINORITIES AND WORKED FOR THE ELECTION OF THE FIRST BLACK ALDERMAN IN I CITY OF THE CHICAGO. THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WAS FOUNDED IN ILLINOIS BY MR. CATT WHO STATED THAT "WINNING THE VOTE IS ONLY AN OPENING WEDGE BUT TO LEARN TO USE IT TO A BIGGER TAFJ" I NOTE THAT THERE ARE SOME ATTEMPTS TO TURN AROUND THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DEBATE IN A A CYNICAL DEBATE ABOUT RACE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE IN THIS BODY CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. THERE ARE TOO MANY PROBLEMS FACING OUR COUNTRY TO DIVIDE US AT THIS TIME AND TO ENGAUGE IN A DIVISIVE, COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND, I SUBMIT, IRRESPONSIBLE DEBATE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY. AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS ABOUT GIVING OUR COUNTRY THE ABILITY TO COMPETE IN THIS WORLD ECONOMY IN THIS WORLD COMARKTPLACE ON AN EQUAL PAR AND WITH THE CAPACITY TO TAP THE TALENTS OF 100% OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. AS OUR COUNTRY IS ABLE TO TAP THE TALENTS OF 100%, WE GROW STRORNGE AS A NATION AND WE ARE BETTER ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND TO COMPETE. TO CLOSE THAT DOOR TO PUT CEMENT ON THE GRASS GLASS CEILING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT SEEMS TO ME, MR. PRESIDENT, TURNS THIS COUNTRY IN THE ABSOLUTE WRONG DIRECTION AND WILL PUT US ON A COURSE THAT I HATE FRANKLY TO IMAGINE. I HOPE THAT OVER THE YEARS AS WE DISCUSS THIS ISSUE THAT PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT IT WILL, ONE, FOCUS IN ON THE FACTS AND, TWO, HEAR THE VOICES OF REASON COMING FROM AMERICA'S HEARTLAND. WE ALL STAND TO GAIN FROM THE WISDOM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT IN THE REAL WORLD TRYING TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY WORK AS ONE AMERICA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. I YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN. MR. FEINGOLD: I THANK THE CHAIR AND I THANK THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS AND APPRECIATED HEARING HER REMARKS, IN PARTICULAR, ON AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE

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  • 11:09:48 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. FEINGOLD:

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  • 11:09:52 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. FEINGOLD:…

    MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. FEINGOLD: I THANK THE CHAIR AND I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL INDICATE THAT AS WE GET TO THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT , 100 DAYS, IT IS TIME TO TAKE STOCK.

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  • 11:10:03 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    REPUBLICAN CONTRACT , 100 DAYS, IT IS TIME TO TAKE STOCK. EVERYONE IS…

    REPUBLICAN CONTRACT , 100 DAYS, IT IS TIME TO TAKE STOCK. EVERYONE IS TAKING STOCK OF WHAT'S IN THERE, WHAT'S PASSED, WHAT HASN'T PASSED, WHAT ISN'T IN THERE.

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  • 11:10:06 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 11:13:09 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT IN HOUSE, THE REGULATORY MORATORIUM BILL, WHICH…

    HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT IN HOUSE, THE REGULATORY MORATORIUM BILL, WHICH WE'VE MOVED OUT, PRODUCT LIABILITY, THE SELF-EMPLOYED HEALTH INSURANCE EXTENSION, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. THE FEMA

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  • 11:13:11 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    IN HOUSE, THE REGULATORY MORATORIUM BILL, WHICH WE'VE MOVED OUT, PRODUCT…

    IN HOUSE, THE REGULATORY MORATORIUM BILL, WHICH WE'VE MOVED OUT, PRODUCT LIABILITY, THE SELF-EMPLOYED HEALTH INSURANCE EXTENSION, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. THE FEMA EXTENSION, TELECOMMUNICATION BILL, AND VARIOUS OTHER ITEMS ARE LISTED AS LIKELY. BUT, YOU KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT, NOWHERE ON THAT LIST IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION THAT EITHER FOR SURE OR LIKELY WILL WE BE TAKING UP THE GIFT BAN BEFORE THE MEMORIAL DAY RECESS. SO I'M BEGINNING TO GET CONCERNED. THE MAJORITY LEADER HAS GIVEN US WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A PRETTY STRONG COMMITMENT THAT THIS BILL WOULD BE TAKEN UP IN A REASONABLE TIME BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT RESPONSE. AND I'M BEGINNING TO WONDER WHY. MR. PRESIDENT, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE NOT SURPRISED ME ABOUT THESE FIRST 100 DAYS OF THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I LIKE THEM, BUT THEY DIDN'T SURPRISE ME. I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT TALKS SO LOUDLY ABOUT DEFICIT REDUCTION YESTERDAY PASSED A $200 BILLION STEP IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, IN THE FORM OF TAX CUTS FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING SOME OF THE VERY WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY. I'M NOT SURPRISED. THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WAS VOODOO MATHEMATICS FROM THE BEGINNING. IT IS ABOUT HAVING YOUR CAKE AND EATING IT, TOO. SAYING YOU'RE FOR DEFICIT REDUCTION, SAYING YOU'RE FOR BALANCING THE BUDGET, AND THEN AS FAST AS YOU CAN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY IS HAPPY WITH YOU BY GIVING YOU A TAX CUT THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD. BUT I'M NOT SURPRISED BY THAT. I WAS NOT SURPRISED BUT DISMAYED THAT THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. BUT IT IS VERY EASY ON THAT ISSUE TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. TO SAY THAT IF THE DEMOCRATS WRITE THE BILL IT IS GOING TO HELP OUT THE DEMOCRATS, IF THE REPUBLICANS WRITE IT, IT IS GOING TO HELP THE REPUBLICANS. AND IT'S TERRIBLY CONFUSING. BECAUSE IT INVOLVES SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES OF PACS AND CAMPAIGN LIMITATIONS, CONTRIBUTION LIMITATIONS. I THINK IT IS A TRAGEDY THAT THAT WASN'T PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT IS BEFORE US. BUT IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE EFFORT TO KILT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM BILL LAST SESSION IN THIS VERY BODY. I ALSO, MR. PRESIDENT, WAS NOT SURPRISED TO SEE THE COMPLETE IGNORING ON THE WHOLE HEALTH CARE ISSUE IN THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WHICH EVERYBODY IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE SAID WAS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. EVERYBODY SAID THEY WANTED UNIVERSAL COVERAGE, THAT SOMEHOW -- AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE WERE UP TO 40 MILLION AMERICANS WITH NO HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. EVERYBODY SAID WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT SOMEHOW BUT THERE'S NO ACTION ON THAT AT ALL. IT IS HARDLY MENTIONED. AGAIN, THOUGH, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M NOT SURPRISED. I SAW THAT ONE COMING. HEALTH CARE BECAME A SYMBOL OF SOMETHING THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T GET INVOLVED IN AT ALL. DURING THE 103RD CONGRESS. AND I THINK THAT IS REGRETTABLE , BUT THE RESULT. BUT WHAT I AM SURPRISED BY, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT THE FOLKS RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT BELIEVE THAT IT'S JUST FINE TO NOT INCLUDE THE GIFT BAN AND TO NOT TAKE IT UP IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT ISN'T IMPORTANT ENOUGH, APPARENTLY, TO BE HANDLED IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TOO OBVIOUSLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE TO ENAND THE SPIRIT OF THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT IN THE NOVEMBER 8 ELECTIONS TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE GIFT BAN IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SYMBOLS OF THE CORRUPTION THAT EXISTS IN THIS TOWN. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. AFTER ELIMINATING THE GREE FREE GYMS, THE FREE HEALTH CARE, THE SPECIAL STATIONERY ALL THE LITTLE PERKS THAT CERTAINLY SHOULD GO -- AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE GONG -- I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST INCREDIBLE THAT EITHER PARTY FELT SAFE AND SECURE NOT TRYING TO GET RID OF THE USE OF GIFT-GIVEING TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. IT SIMSE LIKE JUST OFFERING UP RAW MEAT TO THE FOLKS WHO DO THE PRIME TIME TELEVISION SHOW, BEGGING THEM TO COME PHOTOGRAPH MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AT TENNIS TRIPS PAID FOR BY SPECIAL INTERESTS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE THAUFMT THAT'S NOT THE PERCEPTION. THAT'S NOT THE APPROACH. THE APPROACH IS TO STONEWALL THE GIFT BAN ISSUE. AND WHY WOULD MEMBERS OF CONGRESS CONTINUE TO ALLOW THAT PERCEPTION TO EXIST? WELL, I GUESS THE CONCLUSION I'VE COME TO, MR. PRESIDENT, IS -- IT'S BECAUSE THE GIVING OF GIFTS TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS BY PRIVATE INTERESTS, BY SPECIAL INTERESTS -- NOT BY THE GOVERNMENT -- IS NOT ANY OLD PERK GIVEN BY THE GOVERNMENT. THE HAIRCUTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED HERE AND HOPEFULLY CHANGED. IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE PRACTICE OF GIFT-GIVING AND SPECIAL INTEREST INFLUENCE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IS A KEY LINK IN A CHAIN OF INFLUENCE, MR. PRESIDENT, A CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE THAT OPERATES IN THIS TOWN TO CREATE A CULTURE OF SPECIAL INTEREST INFLUENCE. AMONG THE LINKS IN THIS CHAIN ARE THE PRACTICE OF THE REVOLVING DOOR. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND STAFF MEMBERS WORKING A WHILE HERE AND THEN FINDING A NICE JOB DOWNTOWN AND FINDING OUT THAT THEY CAN, IN EFFECT, TRADE ON THEIR EXPERIENCE HERE TO GET A JOB LOBBYING LATER ON. THAT'S ONE LINK. ANOTHER MAJOR LINK, OF COURSE, IS THE HORRIBLE PROBLEM OF THE WAY OUR CAMPAIGN SYSTEM WORKS -- CAMPAIGN FINANCING. THE NEWS TODAY IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" OF THE INCREDIBLE NUMBERS OF NEW CONTRIBUTIONS COMING INTO THE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE NOW THAT THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF BOTH HOUSES. YOU CAN MENTION THE BOOK DEALS YOU CAN MENTION THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT IS BEFORE US IN THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TODAY, THE SO-CALLED REGULATORY REFORM BILL. MR. PRESIDENT IN THAT BILL, IT IS SERIOUSLY PROPOSED -- AND APPARENTLY IS GOING TO BE PASSED -- THAT THE REVIEW OF THESE REGULATIONS WHEN THEY GET TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL WILL NOT BE DONE BY A DISINTERESTED GROUP BUT WILL INCLUDE A SO-CALLED PEER REVIEW PANEL THAT WILL INCLUDE THE VERY INTERESTS THAT HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE RULES. THAT IS A LINK IN THIS CHAIN. AND SO IS THE PRACTICE OF GIVING GIFTS AND FREE TRIPS BY LOBBYISTS TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. WHAT I WOULD SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT THE GIFT-GIVING PRACTICE IS THE PIECE OF THE CHAIN OF SPECIAL INFLUENCE THAT HAS TO DO WITH FEEDING AND PAMPERING MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, AND IT IS PART OF A SYSTEM THAT TEARS THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THEY THOUGHT THEY ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEM. MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS NO WONDER THAT THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT DOES NOT MENTION THE GIFT BAN. IT IS NO ACCIDENT THAT THE 104TH CONGRESS HAS BLOCKED ACTION ON THAT ISSUE SO FAR. AND ISN'T IT INTERESTING, MR. PRESIDENT THAT IF YOU LISTEN TO THE TALK SHOW HOSTS, THE RATHER CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW HOSTS THAT TALK ABOUT ALL THE PERKS IN CONGRESS, THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE PENSION PROBLEMS HERE, THE FACT THAT THE PENSION SYSTEM NEEDS REFORM, WHICH I AGREE WITH. THEY'LL TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT HAS DO WITH A GOVERNMENT PECULIAR. BUT THEY SEEM TO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS PRACTICE OF MEALS AND GIFTS AND SPECIAL BENEFITS -- PERSONAL BENEFITS TO MEMBERS OF KOFJ THE ONLY TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD ITED ON ONE OF THOSE SHOWS WAUS ON THE JIM HIGHTOWER SHOFMTE HE WAS INTERESTED IN POINTING OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST WEEK OF KOFJT BUT BASICALLY IT IS NOT MENTIONED. MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN TELL YOU IT IS NOT MENTIONED BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING VERY DIFFICULT TO ENACT OR FOLLOW. A GIFT BAN WORKS VERY, VERY WELL, MR. PRESIDENT. I'VE SAID MANY TIMES ON THE FLOOR, I GUESS I'LL BE SAYING IT MANY MORE TIMES. WE HAVE HAD A LAW BASICALLY BANGING ALL OF THESE GIFTS BY LOBBYISTS IN WISCONSIN FOR 20 YEARS. IT HAS WORKED EXTREMELY WELL. AND ALTHOUGH WE CERTAINLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SPECIAL INTEREST INFLUENCE, IN OUR GOVERNMENT AS WELL, IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT CULTURE IN WISCONSIN' GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF THIS BAN. IN WISCONSIN, THE TYPE OF THING THAT HAPPENED THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" THIS WEEK COULD NOT HAPPEN. IN AN ARTICLE IN THE "IN THE LOOP SESSION" ENTITLED "HOSPITAL STALT SWEET," A RECENT FACT-FINDING TRICH WAS STRIBDE AS FOLLOWS. APPARENTLY SOME HOUSE REPUBLICANS IT SAY, HAVE COME UP WITH A NEED WAY TO FULFILL THEIR PROMISE OF SLASHING THE COST OF CONGRESS WHEN MEMBERS OF THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE RECENTLY HELD FIELD HEARINGS ON ENDANGERED SPEAKERS AND WETLANDS IN LOUISIANA, THE TRIP INCLUDED DIFFERENT AT ARMANDS IN THE FRENCH COURT. WHO PICKED UP THE TAB? THE NATIONAL-SO-DISINTERESTED LOUISIANA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION, MIDCONTINENT AN OIL GAS ASSOCIATION, AND THE LOUISIANA LAND AND EXPLORATION COMPANY. A WEEK LATER, THE ARTICLE SAID IT WAS DINNER IN AN ANTONIO SPONSORED AND PAID FOR BY GROUPS LIKE TD TEXAS CATTLE FEEDERS ASSOCIATION, TEXAS SHEEP AND GOAT RAISERS, SAN ANTONIO RANCH AND FARM REAL ESTATE BOARD AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BUILDERS. MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WAS A RATHER LAME RESPONSE FROM ONE OF STAFF MEMBERS OR ONE OF THE HOUSE MEMBERS WHY THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. MR. JOHNSTON SAID, WE JUST CONSIDER THIS TO BE LOCAL HOSPITALITY. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS TO DISCUSS ISSUES WITH PEOPLE FROM LOUISIANA. WE DIDN'T SOLICIT ANY OF THESE COMPANIES. I FEEL CONFIDENT IF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS HAD COME FORWARD, WE WOULD HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. MR. PRESIDENT, IF THEY TRY TO A COME DATE ALL THESE MEALS, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO A WEIGHT LOSS CLINIC PRETTY SOON. IN WISCONSIN, YOU CAN'T DO THIS. IF YOU WANT TO MEET WITH CONSTITUENTS AND SIT DOWN WITH THEM AT A MEAL, THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR OWN WAY. SOMETIMES THE WAITER OR THE WAITRESS IS A LITTLE IRTAITD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WRITE OIT OUT SEPARATE CHECKS. BUT THAT'S THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENS. YOU PAY YOUR OWN WAY. YOU DON'T DO THIS KIND OF STUFF THAT WAS DONE JUST RECENTLY BY THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO FELT THEY HAD TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO INVESTIGATE CONCERNS IN THEIR STATE. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, THE PROBLEM ISN'T THAT WE CAN'T DO THIS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S JUST TOO DARN SIMPLE TO GET RID OF THIS HORRIBLE PRACTICE. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME JUST BE CLEAR -- I CONSIDER THIS GIFT-BAN ISSUE TO BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. BUT I DO CONSIDER IT TO BE SORT OF THE KID BROTHER TO THE BIGGER ISSUE, WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING IN ANY WAY THAT GETTING RID OF THIS GIFT BAN OR GETTING RID OF THIS GAIFT-GIFRG PRACTICE WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF SPECIAL INTERESTS ANT PROBLEM WITH LOBBYISTS. THE ANSWER THERE IS TO LIMIT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CAN BE SPENT OR AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ABIDE BY THE LIMITS GET AN ADVANTAGE TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OF ADVANTAGE OF THE GREATER SPENDING. I ALSO THINK YOU OUGHT TO GET A MAJORITY OF YOUR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM YOUR OWN HOME STATE, SOMETHING MANY REPUBLICANS HAVE PROPOSED. I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY DILUTE AND LIMIT THE INFLUENCE OF SPECIAL INTERESTS AND LOBBYISTS IN THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE CONTEXT. BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS ABOUT PERSONAL ENRICHMENT. THIS IS ABOUT, NECK, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- THIS IS ABOUT, IN EFFECT, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE PRESSURE US TIME OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. THIS IS ABOUT CREATING A FEELING OF PERSONAL, NOT PROFESSIONAL, OBLIGATION BETWEEN ONE INDIVIDUAL AND ANOTHER. ONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, ONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE A LOBBYIST FOR A SPECIAL INTEREST. THIS IS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE GIFT-GIVING AND BUYING DIFFERENCE AND GIVING TRIPS TO ACHIEVE UNDUE ACCESS -- UNDUE ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. IT IS PART OF A CHAIN, AS I'VE SAID -- IT IS PART AFTER CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE THAT I THINK HAS BROKEN DOWN THE TRUST BETWEEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. SO LET ME CONCLUDE -- I SEE THE SENATOR -- A SENATOR: WILL THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A QUESTION? MR. FEINGOLD: I YIELD FOR A QUESTION. MR. DORGAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS LISTEN TOGETHER SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN TALK ABOUT GIFTS. AND I HAD COME OVER TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IN MANY RESPECTS, IT RELATES TO THE ISSUE OF GIFTS. AND

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  • 11:25:19 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    RELATES TO THE ISSUE OF GIFTS. AND I HAD THOUGHT I'D ASK THE SENATOR A…

    RELATES TO THE ISSUE OF GIFTS. AND I HAD THOUGHT I'D ASK THE SENATOR A QUESTION ABOUT IT. LAST

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  • 11:25:21 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    I HAD THOUGHT I'D ASK THE SENATOR A QUESTION ABOUT IT. LAST EVENING THE…

    I HAD THOUGHT I'D ASK THE SENATOR A QUESTION ABOUT IT. LAST EVENING THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED A TAX CUT BILL, ABOUT $190 BILLION LOSS IN REVENUE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, ABOUT $.375 BILLION LOST IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE THE LOUDEST PROPONENTS OF CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO REQUIRE A BALANCED BUDGET NOW HAVE TAKEN A BUNCH OF POLLS AND FOUND THAT IF THEY HAD OFFERED A TAX CUTS, IT WOULD BE VERY POPULAR. THE FIRST STEP IS TO CUT FEDERAL SPENDING, USE THE MONEY TO CUT THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, THEN TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TAX CODE AND TRY TO PROMOTE SOME FAIRNESS IN THE TAX CODE. BUT I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT AS I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS IN THIS BILL PASSED LAST EVENING BY THE HOUR, IT IS KIND OF LIKE WATCHING THE BOAT BEING PUT IN THE RIVER, RUNNING THE SAME OLD DIRECTION. THIS THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A TAX CUT FOR FAMILIES. THAT IS FAMILY-FRIENDLY TAX CUT TO KIND OF HELP OUT WORKING FAMILIES. THIS MORNING I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. IN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, JUST DON'T TAKE THE CHILD CREDIT OR ONE OTHER PIECE, THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX FOR CORPORATIONS, A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS AND FIGURE OUT WHO BENEFITS HOORX IS WHAT THEY SHOW -- IT SHOWS FUR AN AMERICAN WITH OVER $200,000 IN INCOME, YOU GET FROM 2R FROM THIS TAX CUT BILL PASSED BY THE HOUSE LAST EVENING, AN $11,200 CUT IN YOUR TAX BILL IN A YEAR. FUR AN AMERICAN WHO HAS AN AVERAGE INCOME OF LESS THAN $30,000, YOUR TAX CUT WAS 5 WHOLE $120. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU ARE ABOVE $200,000, YOU CAN EXPECT TO GET A CHECK IN THE MAIL FOR $11,200. THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD GIFT. THESE FOLKS SAY, THIS IS FOR WORKING FAMILIES. WELL, WORKING FAMILIES THAT MAKE OVER $200,000 A YEAR GET $11,200 TAX CUT AT A TIME WHEN WE'VE GOT DEBT UP TO OUR NECK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS FEDERAL DEFICIT. AND THE $30,000 AND BELOW WORKING FAMILIES GET $180. IT'S THE OLD CAKE-AND-CRUMBS APPROACH 67 GIVE THE CAKE TO THE VERY RICH AND THE CRUMBS TO THE REST AND SAY, EVERYBODY BENEFITS. I WAS TOLD ONCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, JEERX CAPITAL GAINS. THAT HELPS EVERYBODY. SORT OF LIKE SAYING, OKAY, YOU TAKE 40,000 PEOPLE AND PUT THEM OVER IN CAMDEN YARDS, FILL EVERY SEAT AND THEN SAY, I'M GOING TO PASS OUT $1 4U7B MILLION TO THESE FEAX FOLKS. AND YOU PASS OUT ONE DOLLAR TO 39,999 PEOPLE. AND TO THE OTHER PERSON YOU GIVE ALL THE REST OF THE MONEY. AND THERN YOU GO OUTSIDE AND YOU CROW THAT EVERYBODY IN THAT PLACE GOT SOME MONEY. YEAH, THEY D ONE PERSON GOT ALMOST ALL OF T AND ALL THE REST OF THEM GOT JUST -- SO YOU CAN MAKE THE CLAIM, I SUPPOSE, THAT, GEE, EVERYBODY BENEFITS. BUT THE FACT IS THAT ONE PERSON GOT MOST OF THE BENEFIT. THAT'S THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE TAX CUT AT A TIME WHEN WE SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THE DEFICIT HONESTLY. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE TAKING POLLS, CUTTING TAXES THAT PROMOTE ENORMOUSLY BENEFICIAL GIFTS TO THE VERY WEALTHY IN THIS COUNTRY. HAS THE SENATOR HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED LAST EVENING AND WHAT I THINK IS ESSENTIAL-GIFT 20G THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS IN THIS GENEROUS TAX CUT PROPOSED BY THE MAJORITY PARTY IN THE HOUSE?

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  • 11:28:55 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    IF THE SENATOR WILL YIELD FOR ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. GOLD GOAL THE…

    IF THE SENATOR WILL YIELD FOR ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. GOLD GOAL THE SENATOR WILL YIELD.

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  • 11:31:59 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    TRIED TO DECIDE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE ARTIFICIAL NINGS IN THE TAX LAW THAT…

    TRIED TO DECIDE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE ARTIFICIAL NINGS IN THE TAX LAW THAT PROMOTED ARTICLE OFFICIAL INK VESTMENTS AND TRIED TO LET THE MARKPLACE MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THE INVESTMENT STREEMT STREAMS WOULD GO AND PRIOR TO THAT TIME, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE YOU COULD PICK OUT SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN AMERICAN CORPORATE LIFE. AND FIND

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  • 11:32:04 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    INK VESTMENTS AND TRIED TO LET THE MARKPLACE MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT…

    INK VESTMENTS AND TRIED TO LET THE MARKPLACE MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THE INVESTMENT STREEMT STREAMS WOULD GO AND PRIOR TO THAT TIME, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE YOU COULD PICK OUT SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN AMERICAN CORPORATE LIFE. AND FIND OUT THAT THEY MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM PROFITS. AND WHAT DID THEY PAY IN TAXES? ZERO -- NOTHING. ZERO. SO, IN 1986 WE PUT IN PLACE AN ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX THAT WORKED. AND WE SAID YOU CAN'T MAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROFITS AND END UP PAYING NOTHING. THE FOLKS WHO WORK FOR A LIVING PAY TAXES. THEY CAN'T GET BY WITHOUT PAYING TAXES. SO WE CONSTRUCT AN ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX THAT WORKED. YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATION THEY PASSED LAST NIGHT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SAYS, LET'S GET RIT OF THE -- RID OF THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX FOR CORPORATIONS. $4 BILLION, 2,000 CORPORATIONS WILL BENEFIT TO THE TUNE OF WASHING AWAY $4 BILLION IN REVENUE. THE WAY I CALCULATE IT, THAT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION A CORPORATION. TALK ABOUT GIFTS, THERE'S A GIFT. I'LL BET THERE WASN'T MUCH DEBATE ABOUT THAT. MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY JUST RESPOND BRIEFLY? I'M VERY GLAD YOU MENTIONED AGAIN SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE 19896 BILL. BECAUSE AS YOU WERE SPEAKING, I REALIZED SOMETHING. IN 1986 WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. I

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  • 11:33:23 AM

    MR. FEINGOLD

    I REALIZED SOMETHING. IN 1986 WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE WE…

    I REALIZED SOMETHING. IN 1986 WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE WE STILL HAD THE MAJORITY REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE. ALTHOUGH THAT BILL HAD SOME FLAWS, THERE WERE CHANGES IN -- THAT WOULD ACCELERATE DEPRECIATION, THERE WERE LIMITS ON SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THE MOST VISIBLE ASPECTS OF TAX DEDUCTIONS THAT SEEMED TO BE UNFAIR -- ACCELERATED DEPRECIATION AND OTHERS. WHAT IS IRONIC, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT HERE WE HAVE NOW AGAIN THE MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, AND THEY'RE DOING -- IN THE CONGRESS -- AND THEY'RE DOING JUST THE REVERSE. THERE WAS A BOOK WRITTEN ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE 1986 BILL CALLED "SHOWDOWN AT GUCCI GULCH." AND IT WAS A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY CHAIR, THE SENATOR FROM OREGON, WHO I BELIEVE CHAIRED THAT FAMOUS MEETING. AND TAX LOOPHOLES WERE ELIMINATED. BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN, MANY YEARS LATER WITH JUST THE REVERSE HAPPENING. THE RESTORATION OF SOME OF THESE SPECIAL DEALS AT A TIME WHEN THE DEFICIT IS FAR WORSE THAN IT WAS IN 1986. LET ME SIMPLY CONCLUDE, MR. PRESIDENT, BY SAYING WHAT I HAVE TOLD MY CONSTITUENTS BACK HOME, REGRETTABLY. THEY SAY HOW'S THAT GOING OUT THERE IN WASHINGTON? HOW IS THE REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WORKING OUT? ARE YOU GUYS CLEANING THINGS UP? AND I HAVE TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH. AND THE TRUTH IS THAT THE LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON HAVE NEVER HAD A BIGGER SMILE ON THEIR FACE THAN THEY DO NOW. THIS IS THE HAPPIEST TIME FOR LOBBYISTS IN AMERICA IN MANY, MANY YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING THE SHOW. AND AS A FINAL EXAMPLE, A RATHER DISTURBING OCCURRENCE OCCURRED IN FRONT OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE RECENTLY WHERE OUR STAFF MEMBERS WERE TOLD TO COME TO A STAFF BRIEFING BY THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY STAFF ON THE REGULATORY REFORM BILL. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR VERY LONG, IT IS NORMAL PRACTICE FOR THE -- THE MAJORITY STAFF FOLKS TO BRIEF THE MINORITY STAFF ON WHAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED BY THE CHAIR. BUT THEY WEREN'T BRIEFED REALLY BY THE MAJORITY STAFF. THEY WERE BRIEFED BY A COUPLE OF ATTORNEYS. AND THEY WERE ASKED WHO THEY WERE. THEY SAID WE'RE THE FOLKS THAT REPRESENT 12 TO 15 CORPORATIONS THAT BASICALLY WROTE THIS THING. APPARENTLY THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY STAFF WAS EVEN OVERRULED SEVERAL TIMES IN TERMS OF THE MEANING OF THE DOCUMENT BY THESE ATTORNEYS, LOBBYISTS FROM DOWNTOWN IN WASHINGTON. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER SYMBOL, ANOTHER LINK IN THE CHAIN OF SPECIAL INFLUENCE THAT I'M AFRAID HAS INFECTED THIS TOWN MORE THIS YEAR THAN AT ANY TIME IN RECENT HISTORY. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S TIME TO PASS THE GIFT BAN. IT'S TIME TO CLEAN THAT UP ON THE BIPARTISAN BASIS THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO LAST TIME WITH AN OVERWHELMING, I THINK IT WAS 93-4 VOTE. AND I'M VERY DELIGHTED TO YIELD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OF WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE AN EVEN MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE -- THE NEED TO KNOCK OUT IN THE SENATE, TO LET THE SENATE DO ITS JOB, GETTING RID OF THIS FOOLISH TAX CUT AT A TIME WHEN ALL AVAILABLE DOLLARS HAVE TO BE DEVOTED TO ELIMINATING THE FEDERAL DEFICIT. I YIELD THE FLOOR. A SENATOR:

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  • 11:36:51 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS, SENATOR BUMPERS, IS ON THE FLOOR. AND I THINK HE IS…

    SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS, SENATOR BUMPERS, IS ON THE FLOOR. AND I THINK HE IS INTENDING TO SPEAK A BIT ABOUT THE TAX CUT BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES LAST EVENING.

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  • 11:36:55 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    IS INTENDING TO SPEAK A BIT ABOUT THE TAX CUT BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY THE…

    IS INTENDING TO SPEAK A BIT ABOUT THE TAX CUT BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES LAST EVENING. MR. PRESIDENT, MIGHT I ASK ABOUT THE ORDER OF THE SENATE? ARE WE IN MORNING BUSINESS?

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  • 11:37:20 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE IN ORDER TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- MR. DORGAN: MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME…

    BE IN ORDER TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- MR. DORGAN: MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. DORGAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WILL NOT TAKE A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE I'VE MADE SOME POINTS HERE ALREADY.

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  • 11:37:34 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    OF TIME BECAUSE I'VE MADE SOME POINTS HERE ALREADY. BUT I DID WANT TO COME…

    OF TIME BECAUSE I'VE MADE SOME POINTS HERE ALREADY. BUT I DID WANT TO COME AND SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ACTION LAST EVENING WITH RESPECT TO ONE PORTION OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AS ALMOST

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  • 11:37:39 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AND SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ACTION LAST EVENING WITH RESPECT TO ONE…

    AND SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ACTION LAST EVENING WITH RESPECT TO ONE PORTION OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AS ALMOST

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  • 11:37:41 AM

    MR. DORGAN

    EVENING WITH RESPECT TO ONE PORTION OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN THE…

    EVENING WITH RESPECT TO ONE PORTION OF THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AS ALMOST EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, THE "CONTRACT FOR AMERICA" IS A DOCUMENT THAT RESULTS FROM SUBSTANTIAL POLLING AND FOCUS GROUPS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DID ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY -- POLLING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POPULAR, WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT, WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK WE SHOULD DO, HOW WILL THEY REACT POSITIVELY TO WORDS AND PHRASES AND IDEAS. AND THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER IN A CONTRACT. IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT ONE WOULD DISCOVER THE ANSWER TO A QUESTION: WOULD YOU LIKE LOWER TAXES, THAT THE ANSWER "YES" WOULD BE THE POPULAR ANSWER. YES, OF COURSE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LOWER TAXES. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A TAX CUT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND ANY POLL IN THIS COUNTRY WOULD ACHIEVE THAT RESULT. IT SEEMS TO ME THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS POPULAR. AND ALTHOUGH I THINK IT MAY BE POPULAR FOR THEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT TAX CUTS, I AM CONVINCED IT IS RIGHT ONLY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET THIS COUNTRY'S FISCAL POLICY UNDER SOME CONTROL. WE ARE UP TO OUR NECK IN DEBT. WE ARE CHOKING ON FISCAL POLICY DEBT, BUDGET DEBT AND TRADE DEBT. AND WE MUST STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. NOW, NOT MORE THAN A MONTH OR TWO AGO WE HAD PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR OF THIS SENATE TRYING TO CHANGE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IN ORDER TO REQUIRE A BALANCED BUDGET. AND THOSE WHO BELLOWED THE LOUDEST ABOUT CHANGING THE U.S. CONSTITUTION ARE SOME OF THE SAME ONES WHO NOW SAY WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS NOT BALANCE THE BUDGET. WE WANT TO CUT TAXES. I MEAN, THIS IS A STEW THAT WE'VE TASTED BEFORE. THIS RECIPE WAS CONCOCTED IN 1981, AND IT RESULTED NOT IN A BALANCED BUDGET, AS WAS PROMISED BY 1984. IT RESULTED IN STAGGERING, MASSIVE PUBLIC DEBT OVER THE LAST DECADE AND A HALF. $3.5 TRILLION AGO IN DEBT WE LEARNED THE LESSONS OF THE THIS DILEMMA. OUR JOB IS VERY SIMPLE, IT SEEMS TO ME. AND THAT IS TO CUT SPENDING AND DO IT AGGRESSIVELY, USE THE MONEY TO CUT THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, SOLVE THE FEDERAL DEFICIT PROBLEM. AND, YES, EVEN START PAYING DOWN ON THE NATIONAL DEBT. AND THEN TURN OUR ATTENTION TO FINDING OUT HOW WE CAN CHANGE THE TAX SYSTEM. YES, THEN TO GIVE SOME RELIEF, BUT ESPECIALLY TO GIVE RELIEF TO MIDDLE-INCOME, WORKING FAMILIES WHO HAVE HAD TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF THIS TAX CODE OVER ALL OF THESE YEARS. BUT TO DECIDE NOW AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE THIS STAGGERING DEBT -- TO DECIDE NOW THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THE POPULAR THING, TO SIMPLY PROPOSE A TAX CUT OF $200 BILLION OR IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, THREE-QUARTERS OF $1 TRILLION LOSS OF REVENUE IS PREPOSTEROUS. IT MAY BE POPULAR, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT. I'VE NOT SPOKEN ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE TAX CUT YESTERDAY BLAUS IT WON'T SURPRISE ANYONE TO LEARN THE SPECIFICS. IT'S THE SAME OLD REPUBLICAN PHILOSOPHY. CALL IT A TAX CUT FOR THE REST AND GIVE A BIG TAX CUT TO THE RICH. CALL IT A TAX CUT FOR FAMILIES AND GIVE A BIG TAX CUT FOR RICH FAMILIES. CLASS WARFARE? NO. THAT'S NOT CLASS WARFARE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IT'S TALKING ABOUT WHO GETS WHAT CHECK IN THE MAIL AS A RESULT OF THESE TAX DEDUCTIONS. IF YOU'RE A FAMILY THAT HAS OVER $200,000 IN INCOME, THAT BILL PASSED LAST EVENING IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS GOING TO GIVE YOU $11,200 TAX CUT A YEAR AVERAGE TAX CUT. IF YOU'RE A FAMILY WITH LESS THAN $30,000 IN INCOME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL OF $120. AND, IN FACT, A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO GET NOTHING. IF YOU MAKE $15,000 A YEAR AND HAVE THREE KIDS, THAT CHILD TAX CREDIT MEANS NOTHING TO YOU. ZERO. THERE'S NO $500 A CHILD. YOU GET ZERO. AND THE FACT IS THIS TAX BILL IS THE SAME OLD THING FROM THE SAME OLD BOYS THAT HAVE ALWAYS PROPOSED THIS KIND OF REMEDY. IT'S GIVE A VERY LARGE TAX CUT TO THE VERY, VERY WEALTHY AND GIVE A FEW CRUMBS TO THE REST. WHY? BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE YOU CAN POUR IN A LOT OF MONEY AT THE TOP AND SOMEHOW THE MAGNIFICENTS AT THE TOP WILL SPEND THIS MONEY IN A WAY THAT WILL HELP ALL THE REST. I HAPPEN TO THINK THE AMERICAN ECONOMIC ENGINE RUNS BEST AND WORKS BEST WHEN YOU GIVE WORKING FAMILIES SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A TAX CUT -- I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO AT THIS MOMENT. BUT WHEN WE DO, AFTER WE SOLVE THE THE DEFICIT PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY, WE OUGHT TO PROVIDE A TAX CUT AND REAL TAX RELIEF TO WORKING FAMILIES. IT IS INTERESTING TO ME, AS I'VE SAID, THAT THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUGHT THE HARDEST TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION, BECAUSE THEY SAY WE MUST BALANCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET, ARE THE FIRST ONES OUT OF THE CHUTE WHO SAY NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THIS DEBATE ABOUT POLLS AND POLITICS IN THE CONSTITUTION, LET'S HAVE ANOTHER ONE ABOUT POLITICS AND POLLS ABOUT OUR FAVORITE SUBJECT -- CUTTING TAXES OR CUTTING REVENUE, WHICH ALL OF US KNOW EXACERBATES THE DEFICIT. IT DOESN'T REDUCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT. IT EXPANDS AND EXPLODES THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT. ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY'S DEFICIT CAN BE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT IRRESPONSIBLE AT THIS POINT IN THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY. YES, AS I SAID, I KNOW IT MIGHT BE POPULAR, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT. ALL OF US OUGHT TO PUT OUR SHOULDER TO THE WHEEL AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT. WE KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT. CUT SPENDING AND USE THE MONEY TO CUT THE DEFICIT. THOSE WHO ARE OFF TRYING TO SUGGEST WE SHOULD GIVE BIG TAX CUTS TO THE RICH WHEN WE'RE CHOKING ON FEDERAL DEBT IN THIS COUNTRY DO NO SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY OR ITS FUTURE OR ITS CHILDREN. WE ARE SEEING A BILL COME OUT OF THE HOUSE THAT HAS THE SAME OLD PROPOSALS. I MENTIONED TO THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN A PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX. I COULD BRING NAMES OF COMPANIES. I WON'T. BUT I COULD BRING NAMES OF COMPANIES TO THE FLOOR THAT EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN WOULD RECOGNIZE IMMEDIATELY, COMPANIES THAT MADE $1 BILLION, $500 MILLION, $3 BILLION, $6 BILLION AND PAID ZERO -- ZERO -- IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. THEY PAID LESS MONEY IN FEDERAL INCOME TAXES THAN SOME PERSON OUT THERE WORKING FOR $14,000 A YEAR, STRUG GELGS, WORKING TEN HOURS A DAY, WORKING HARD ALL YEAR, AND THEY END UP PAYING A TAX. BUT AN ENTERPRISE MAKING $6 BILLION OVER A FEW YEARS ENDS UP PAYING ZERO. SO WE CHANGE THAT AND SAY YOU CAN'T END UP PAYING ZERO ANY MORE. YOU HAVE TO PAY AN ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX AT THE VERY LEAST. IT'S CALLED FAIRNESS. WHAT DID THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DO? THEY PASSED A BILL THAT SAID WE DON'T CARE ABOUT FAIRNESS. WE'RE GOING TO ABOLISH THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX. LET'S GO BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF ZERO, ZERO TAX OBLIGATION FOR SOME OF THE WEALTHIEST,. AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE SAYING LET'S GIVE AWAY THE STORE IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES AND JUST THAT PROVISION, THE ONE PROVISION ON THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX, GIVES AWAY $4 BILLION TO 2,000 COMPANIES. $4 BILLION WASHED AWAY TO 2,000 COMPANIES. THAT'S $2 MILLION A COMPANY. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE FISCAL POLICY PROBLEMS AND DEFICIT DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY. HOW IS IT JUSTIFIABLE? HOW WILL THE PROPONENTS JUSTIFY COMING TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY ANY MORE -- ANYMORE TO PROVIDE AN ENTITLEMENT FOR A SCHOOL HOT LUNCH TO A POOR KID. WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE ENTITLEMENT STATUS FOR A SCHOOL HOT LUNCH BECAUSE WE, FRANKLY, CAN'T AFFORD IT. BUT WE CAN AFFORD TO GIVE SOMEBODY WITH A $400 THOUSAND OR A $200,000 ANNUAL INCOME A CHECK FOR $11,2300 A YEAR AND SAY, PARTNER, YOU'RE LUCKY, HERE'S A BIG TAX BREAK FOR YOU. IT'S TRUE WE'RE RUNNING A DEFICIT. IT'S TRUE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO FEED OUR KIDS, WE'VE GOT TO CUT BACK ON DOZENS OF PROGRAMS THAT DEAL WITH ISSUES OF NUTRITION, ISSUES OF CHILD ABUSE AND INDIAN RESERVATIONS, YOU NAME IT. CUTTING BACK ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY SAY. BUT WE CAN AFFORD TO HAND OVER A VERY LARGE TAX REFUND TO SOME OF THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC SPECIAL INTERESTS IN THIS COUNTRY. I KNOW THAT WHEN I FINISH SPEAKING AND WHEN THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS FINISHES SPEAKING, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO SAY, WELL, IT'S THE SAME OLD COMPLAINT -- CLASS WARFARE. CLASS WARFARE. YOU SHOULDN'T STAND UP AND TALK ABOUT WHO ACTUALLY GETS THE BENEFIT. BECAUSE IF YOU TALK ABOUT WHO GETS THE BENEFIT AND YOU DESCRIBE SOMEONE WITH $200,000 IN INCOME GETTING AN $11,000 CHECK AND SOMEONE WITH $30,000 INCOME GETTING $120, SOMEHOW YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR. IT'S UNFAIR TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WELL, THAT'S NOT CLASS WARFARE. THAT'S A DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S REAL ABOUT THE PROPOSALS TO CHANGE OUR REVENUE SYSTEM. I WILL SUPPORT, WHEN WE'RE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF HONESTLY TRYING TO GET THIS BUDGET DEFICIT UNDER CONTROL, I WILL SUPPORT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN OUR WHOLE REVENUE BASE. FRANKLY, OUR REVENUE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS IT SHOULD. OUR REVENUE SYSTEM OUGHT TO BE CHANGED IN A WHOLESALE WAY, TO ENCOURAGE SAVINGS. OUR REVENUE SYSTEM OUGHT TO BE CHANGED IN A SUBSTANTIAL WAY TO TAX MORE CONSUMPTION THAN WE TAX AND TO ENCOURAGE SAVINGS. AND WE OUGHT NOT KEEP TAXES WORK EVERY CHANCE WE GET. WE HANG EVERY SOCIAL GOOD ON A PAYROLL TAX. AND, FRANKLY, OUR PAYROLL TAXES ARE TOO HEAVY. I BOW TO NO ONE IN MY INTEREST AND DESIRE TO TRY TO CHANGE OUR TAX SYSTEM. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THE PROBLEMS OUR COUNTRY FACES, TO PROPOSE AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY VERY LARGE TAX CUTS TO THE VERY BIG SPECIAL ECONOMIC INTERESTS AND THEN COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE AND CROW ABOUT HOW WANT TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO ELIMINATE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT. ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT CAN DO IT HONESTLY. THE HONEST WAY IS TO AGGRESSIVELY ATTACK FEDERAL SPENDING, REDUCE FEDERAL SPENDING IN AREAS WHERE WE OUGHT TO REDUCE FEDERAL SPENDING, CONTINUE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS WHERE WE OUGHT TO MAKE INVESTMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LIVES OF CHILDREN, USE THE SAVINGS FROM REDUCING FEDERAL SPENDING TO REDUCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT. WHEN WE'VE SET THIS COUNTRY ON A COURSE AND A CONSTRUCTIVE PATH TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, THEN WE OUGHT TO TURN TO THE TAX CODE. AND WHEN WE TURN TO THE TAX CODE, LET'S NOT HAVE MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES TURN OUT TO BE THE LOSERS. EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEBODY MONKEYS WITH THE TAX CODE, SOMEHOW MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES END UP GETTING LESS OR END UP PAYING THE BILL TO PROVIDE TAX CUTS AND BIG TAX REBATES AND BIG GENEROUS REFUNDS TO THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS. WE OUGHT TO HAVE LEARNED IN THE LAST OO YEARS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T. AND WHAT WORKS, IT SEEMS TO ME, IS TO GIVE WORKING FAMILIES SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE WE CAN PROVIDE WORKING FAMILIES IN THIS COUNTRY TODAY IS, NUMBER ONE, TO REDUCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT. WE DO THAT BY CUTTING SPENDING AND USING THE SAVINGS TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. WHEN WE FINISH THAT JOB, THEN I THINK WE CAN TURN TO THE TAX CODE. AND I THINK WE WILL DO A SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT JOB THAN WAS DONE OVER IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR FAIR TAX CUTS, FOR A FAIR TAX SYSTEM, FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WORK HARD AND WHO HAVE BORNE THE COST OF GOVERNMENT FOR FAR TOO MANY YEARS. MR. PRESIDENT, I WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ALONG WITH SOME CHARTS TOMORROW. I NOTICE MY FRIEND FROM ARKANSAS, A MAN NOTED FOR CHARTS, HAS BROUGHT CHARTS TO THE FLOOR. SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, AND I WOULD YIELD THE FLOOR. MR. BUMPERS: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS. MR. BUMPERS: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I BE PERMITTED TO PROCEED FOR UP TO TEN MINUTES AS THOUGH IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE

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  • 11:49:54 AM

    MR. BUMPERS

    AS THOUGH IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.…

    AS THOUGH IN MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. BUMPERS:

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  • 11:49:55 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. BUMPERS:…

    MORNING BUSINESS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. BUMPERS: MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN'T ADD OR DETRACT FROM WHAT THE SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA HAS JUST ELOQUENTLY SAID. BUT I

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  • 11:49:59 AM

    MR. BUMPERS

    CAN'T ADD OR DETRACT FROM WHAT THE SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA HAS JUST…

    CAN'T ADD OR DETRACT FROM WHAT THE SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA HAS JUST ELOQUENTLY SAID. BUT I DO HAVE SOME CHARTS THAT ARE PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE GRAPHIC. BUT

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  • 11:50:06 AM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CHARTS THAT ARE PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE GRAPHIC. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY…

    CHARTS THAT ARE PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE GRAPHIC. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY WEALTHIER FRIENDS, NOT ONLY BACK HOME, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY SAY TO ME IS THE THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT DEMOCRATS IS THEY PROMOTE CLASS WARFARE.

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  • 11:50:08 AM

    MR. BUMPERS

    MORE GRAPHIC. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY…

    MORE GRAPHIC. BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY WEALTHIER FRIENDS, NOT ONLY BACK HOME, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY SAY TO ME IS THE THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT DEMOCRATS IS THEY PROMOTE CLASS WARFARE. THE SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA ALLUDED TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE IN CLASS WARFARE. I BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS, JUSTICE AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS IN OUR ECONOMY. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOUSE LAST EVENING IS ONE OF THE MOST BIZARRE THINGS I HAVE WITNESSED IN MY 20 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. A TAX CUT -- A TAX CUT OF ABOUT $170 BILLION TO $180 BILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT WHICH BALLOONS TO ABOUT $700 BILLION TO $800 BILLION FOR THE TEN-YEAR PERIOD. IN OTHER WORDS, $180 BILLION FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND BETWEEN $400 BILLION AND $500 BILLION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THEY SAY THEY WILL IDENTIFY CUTS TO PAY FOR IT. WE SEE IN THE HOUSE THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROJECT FIVE YEARS OUT. OUR BUDGET, AND THE SENATE REQUIRES US TO COME UP WITH A TEN-YEAR PROJECTION. BUT TO GET ON WITH THE STORY, I DON'T LIKE CLASS WARFARE, BUT HOW DO YOU SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE -- HOW DO YOU SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE TAX BILL THAT PASSED LAST EVENING PROVIDES FOR A TAX CUT OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE OVER $200,000 A YEAR, PROVIDES THEM A TAX CUT OF $11,266 -- AND THAT'S PER YEAR -- AND PROVIDES AN AVERAGE FOR THOSE WHO MAKE ZERO TO $30,000 A YEAR, GIVES THEM $124 A YEAR? MR. PRESIDENT, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE LESS THAN $30,000 A YEAR, THE TAX CUT LAST NIGHT WON'T EVEN BUY A 13-INCH PIZZA FOR FRIDAY NIGHT FOR A MAN AND A WIFE AND A CHILD. IS IT CLASS WARFARE TO POINT OUT THE UNBELIEVABLE UNFAIRNESS OF THIS? I ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MY COLLEAGUES: IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A TAX CUT -- AND I WILL VIGOROUSLY FIGHT THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL -- BUT HOW DO YOU SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE WHO MAKE OVER $200,000 A YEAR ARE GOING TO GET A $11,000 TAX CUT. AND PEOPLE WHO MAKE $30,000 OR LESS GET $124? CLASS WARFARE? IT IS UTTERLY THE MOST BIZARRE THING I HAVE EVER SEEN. WHO DO YOU THINK NEEDS A TAX CUT MOST? THE GUY MAKING $200,000 A YEAR OR THE GUY WITH A WIFE AND TWO KIDS MAKING $30,000 A YEAR? IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A TAX CUT. MOVE ON TO THE CAPITAL GAINS PART OF THE TAX BILL LAST EVENING. THAT'S WHEN YOU BUY AND SELL STOCKS. AND, INCIDENTALLY, I AGREE WITH FELIX ROHATYN, WHO I WATCHED ON CNBC IDEA WHO SAID, I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT THIS COUNTRY DERIVES WHEN SOMEBODY SELLS GENERAL ELECTRIC AND TURNS AROUND AND TAKES THE MONEY AND BUYS DUPONT. WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE COMPLI EXCEPT FATEN SOME BROKER'S FEES? BUT THERE IT IS. THEY WANT TO CUT THE CAPITAL GAINS RATE FROM 28% TO 19.6%. AND WHO GETS IT? WHO BENEFITS FROM IT? YOU GUESSED IT. IF YOU MAKE $100,000 OR MORE, THAT'S ROUGHLY THE TOP 4% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NATION, THE TOP 4% ARE GOING TO GET 76%. OF THE BENEFIT OF THIS CAPITAL GAINS TAX CUT. WHAT DOES THIS POOR STIFF DOWN HERE ON THE $30,000 LEVEL GET? HE GETS 6.4% OF IT. CLASS WARFARE? WHO BELIEVES THAT'S FAIR, MR. PRESIDENT? WHO BELIEVES THAT THE PEOPLE MAKING $100,000 A YEAR OR MORE, WHICH INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS, WHO BELIEVES WE OUGHT TO BE GETTING 76% OF THIS TAX CUT? WHILE THE PEOPLE OF MY STATE, WHERE THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME IS LESS THAN $30,000 A YEAR, GETS 6.4%? MR. PRESIDENT, HERE IS A "USA TODAY" POLL. AND IT POINTS UP WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS AROUND HERE. I NEVER LOST A FRIEND VOTING FOR A TAX CUT. IT'S SO WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR A TAX CUT AND GO BACK HOME AND SAY, LOOK WHAT WE DID AND BEAT OUR CHEST. I GET LETTERS FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT THEIR TAXES CUT, BUT I GET TEN TIMES MORE LETTERS FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT THE DEFICIT DOWN AND THE BUDGET BALANCED. THE GUY WHO IS MAKING $30,000 OR LESS AND GOING TO GET A $124 TAX CUT, I PROMISE YOU -- I PROMISE YOU THAT EVEN HE WILL OPT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET OVER A PALTRY $124 HE'S GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE HIS INTEREST ON HIS HOME IS GOING TO BE LESS. THE INTEREST ON HIS CAR IS GOING TO BE LESS. THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE MORE STABLE. THE SLIDE OF THE DOLLAR, WHICH IS HEADED FOR ZERO, IS GOING TO STABLIZE. WHY IN THE NAME OF GOD ARE WE CONSIDERING SUCH A THING? WHEN 70% OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY HAVE BETTER JUDGMENT THAN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS BY SAYING WE WANT THE DEFICIT DOWN AND 24% SAYING, "I WANT A TAX CUT"? YOU KNOW WHERE THE CONGRESS COMES OUT? 70% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE "USA TODAY" POLL SAY THEY WANT THE DEFICIT REDUCED. 24% SAY THEY WANT A TAX CUT. AND 5% SAY THEY WANT BOTH. AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONGRESS IS. WE'RE GOING TO CUT YOUR TAXES AND BALANCE THE BUDGET BOTH. WE TRIED THAT $3.5 TRILLION AGO IN 1981. BUT YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 5% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE SAYING WE WANT BOTH, AND THAT'S WHERE CONGRESS COMES DOWN. MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN I SAID WE TRIED THAT $3.5 TRILLION AGO, HERE IS A GRAPH THAT SHOWS GRAPHICICALLY, PRECISELY WHAT I JUST GOT THROUGH SAYING. IN 1981 -- AND I REMEMBER IT WELL, RONALD REAGAN'S PRESS CONFERENCE WHEN HE SAID, AFTER WE PASSED THAT RECONCILIATION BILL, I THINK IT WAS IN AUGUST 1981. HE SAYS YOU'VE GIVEN ME THE TOOLS, NOW I'LL DO THE JOB. WE'LL BALANCE THE BUDGET BY 1984. AND WITH A LITTLE LUCK, WE'LL BALANCE DID IN 1983. THOSE ARE RONALD REAGAN'S EXACT WORDS. I WANT TO PUT ON MY EPITAPH THAT I WAS ONE OF THE 11 UNITED STATES SENATORS THAT VOTED AGAINST IT. I SAID YOU WILL CREATE DEFICITS BIG ENOUGH TO CHOKE A MULE. THEY TURNED OUT TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO CHOKE AN ELEPHANT. HERE'S WHERE WE STARTED. IN 1981. AND HERE'S WHAT THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION SAID WE WILL DO. LOOK AT THAT DEFICIT GOING DOWN AND HERE'S WHERE WE'D BALANCE IT. IN 1983-1984. THIS WAS THE PROMISE. THAT IS THE SIREN'S SONG THAN AN IRRESPONSIBLE CONGRESS BOUGHT INTO. WHAT HAPPENED? THERE IT IS. I CAN REMEMBER THE LAST YEAR JIMMY CARTER WAS PRESIDENT, THE DEFICIT WAS $65 BILLION, AND PEOPLE WERE THREATENING TO IMPEACH HIM. UNTHINKABLE. AND SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. IT DIDN'T GO DOWN AS PROMISED. LOOK WHERE IT WENT. BY THE TIME WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET IN 1983, IT WAS $200 BILLION DEFICIT. AND WE SCARCELY HAD ONE LESS THAN THAT EVER SINCE. SO, NO, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M NOT VOTING FOR A TAX CUT. I'M GOING TO VOTE THE WAY 70% OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY SAY THEY WANT ME TO VOTE. WHEN IT COMES TO FAIRNESS, THE TAX CUT IS DESIRABLE, HOPELESSLY INEQUITABLE AND UNFAIR. YOU SEE, THE GRAILTEST OF THIS NATION -- THE GREATEST OF THIS NATION, THE GREATNESS OF THIS CONSTITUTION IS IT SAYS EACH ONE OF US COUNTS. WE ARE ALL SOMEBODY. YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU LIKE JESSE JACKSON OR NOT, I ALWAYS LIKE IT WHEN HE HAS THOSE KIDS SAY, "I AM SOMEBODY." THE SOUL OF AMERICA IS THAT EACH ONE OF US COUNTS. EACH ONE OF US SHOULD NOT COUNT FOR $12,000 OR $11,000 A YEAR MORE THAN THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HAPPEN TO BE BORN QUITE SO WEALTHY. HERE'S WHERE THE DEFICIT HAS BEEN GOING SINCE BILL CLINTON BECAME PRESIDENT. THERE IT IS IN 1995. HERE ARE HIS PROJECTIONS FOR THE OUTYEARS. AND HERE'S WHERE THE PROJECTION THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT. THEY WANT THAT DEFICIT TO CONTINUE RIGHT DOWN THAT WAY. THEY DON'T EXPECT MIRACLES, BUT THEY DO EXPECT RESPONSIBLE, THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE HERE TO GIVE THIS NATION A CHANCE, GIVE OUR CHILDREN A CHANCE. YOU'RE NOT EVER GOING TO ACHIEVE THE GREATNESS OF THIS NATION BY CUTTING CHUTING -- STUDENT LOANS ON AMERICORPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PAY OFF THEIR LOANS. MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN THE FAMILIES OF AMERICAN -- I ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CHAIR ADVISES IT IS SENATOR THAT THERE'S REALLY NO TIME RESTRAINT AND HE MAKE SPEAK SO LONG AS HE -- MR. BUMPERS: I THANK THE SENATOR. MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BUMPERS: I THANK THE SENATOR. MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN THE PEOPLE -- STRIKE…

    BUMPERS: I THANK THE SENATOR. MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN THE PEOPLE -- STRIKE THAT. WHEN THE FAMILIES OF AMERICA SIT AROUND THE DINNER TABLE IN THE EVENING AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY LOVE MOST, IT IS NOT A BIG TAX CUT. IT

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    MR. BUMPERS

    THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE MAJORITY LEADER. THE SENATOR FROM KANSAS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AGREEMENT REACHED ON THE RESCISSIONS BILL, BUT APPARENTLY THAT WILL NOT BE…

    AGREEMENT REACHED ON THE RESCISSIONS BILL, BUT APPARENTLY THAT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE. SO THERE WILL BE A CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00.

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    MR. DOLE

    WOULD THE MAJORITY LEADER YIELD FOR A QUESTION? MR. DOLE: I WOULD YIELD.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    THE ADOPTION OF THE JORDAN AMENDMENT? -- WITH RESPECT TO THE JORDAN…

    THE ADOPTION OF THE JORDAN AMENDMENT? -- WITH RESPECT TO THE JORDAN AMENDMENT. MR. BUMPERS:

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    MR. DOLE

    TO THE JORDAN AMENDMENT. MR. BUMPERS: HOW MANY AMENDMENTS IS ANTICIPATED…

    TO THE JORDAN AMENDMENT. MR. BUMPERS: HOW MANY AMENDMENTS IS ANTICIPATED WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER AN AGREEMT? MR.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    HOW MANY AMENDMENTS IS ANTICIPATED WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER AN AGREEMT? MR.…

    HOW MANY AMENDMENTS IS ANTICIPATED WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER AN AGREEMT? MR. DOLE: WE THOUGHT WE HAD NAIR YOEED IT DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR ON EACH SIDE, AND WE THOUGHT SOME WERE ACCEPTABLE. AND

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    MR. DOLE

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    MR. BUMPERS

    WERE ACCEPTABLE. AND SOME WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH C.P.V., WE SAY, OH, GIVE…

    WERE ACCEPTABLE. AND SOME WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH C.P.V., WE SAY, OH, GIVE US $20 MILLION SOMEWHERE ELSE IN SPENDING RESTRAINTS.

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    MR. DOLE

    I THANK THE LEADER. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    I THANK THE LEADER. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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  • 12:09:17 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    DISAPPOINTED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS NEGOTIATION. I HAD HOPED THAT THE…

    DISAPPOINTED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS NEGOTIATION. I HAD HOPED THAT THE GOOD-FAITH EFFORTS OF THE MAJORITY LEADER , WHO STAYED HERE LATE INTO THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT AND WORKED ON THIS DILIGENTLY, AND I THINK MORE THAN BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LEADERSHIP ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE TO HELP THEM RESTORE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT THEY FELT WAS SO DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE LONG FOSTERED AND SUPPORTED IN THIS INSTITUTION. AND WE

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  • 12:09:21 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAD HOPED THAT THE GOOD-FAITH EFFORTS OF THE MAJORITY LEADER , WHO STAYED…

    HAD HOPED THAT THE GOOD-FAITH EFFORTS OF THE MAJORITY LEADER , WHO STAYED HERE LATE INTO THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT AND WORKED ON THIS DILIGENTLY, AND I THINK MORE THAN BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LEADERSHIP ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE TO HELP THEM RESTORE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT THEY FELT WAS SO DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE LONG FOSTERED AND SUPPORTED IN THIS INSTITUTION. AND WE

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  • 12:09:24 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    THE MAJORITY LEADER , WHO STAYED HERE LATE INTO THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT AND…

    THE MAJORITY LEADER , WHO STAYED HERE LATE INTO THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT AND WORKED ON THIS DILIGENTLY, AND I THINK MORE THAN BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LEADERSHIP ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE TO HELP THEM RESTORE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT THEY FELT WAS SO DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE LONG FOSTERED AND SUPPORTED IN THIS INSTITUTION. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE FRESHMEN CLASS -- SENATOR KYL FROM ARIZONA, SENATOR ASHCROFT FROM MISSOURI, SENATOR MCCAIN FROM ARIZONA, AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO CRAFT AN AMENDMENT THAT RECOGNIZED THE CONCERNS OF THE MINORITY AND AT THE SAME TIME PRESERVED SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT WE HAD TO THE BILL. AND, FRANKLY, WE THOUGHT WE WERE PRETTY GENEROUS. THE MINORITY LEADER CAME IN AND ASKED FOR -- IN HIS ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PENDING -- FOR ALMOST $1.3 BILLION IN MORE SPENDING. MORE SPENDING ON ALMOST ALL SOCIAL PROGRAMS. JUST MORE SOCIAL PROGRAM SPENDING. NOW, THESE WERE NOT -- JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, THE BILL THAT CAME TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE, THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, WAS NOT -- HAD INCREASES IN THESE PROGRAMS. EVERY ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT THE MINORITY LEADER ASKED FOR ALREADY HAD AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. WE ALREADY HAD AN INCREASES. IN MANY CASES, HUMAN AMOUNTS OF INCREASES. BUT THEY CUT -- THEY CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE RATE OF THE INCREASE WITH THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE. WELL, THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER DIDN'T LIKE THAT, SO HE JACKED IT BACK UP. OKAY. WE SAID, FINE. YOU WANT TO JACK UP SOME PROGRAMS AND PUT THEM BACK TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY WERE BEFORE -- WHICH WAS A DRAMATIC INCREASE OVER WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR -- YOU THINK THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, WE UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY YOU HAVE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK ON THAT. YOU KNOW WE HAD, AS SENATOR DOLE AND THE OTHER FRESHMEN CAME FORWARD WITH AN AMENDMENT. WE SAID WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD OFFSET THESE EXPENDITURES, NOT WITH MONEY FROM A YEAR OR TWO DOWN THE ROAD -- WHICH IS WHAT THE MINORITY LEADER -- THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER'S BILL DID. THEY PULLED MONEY OUT THAT IS FUNNY MONEY FROM YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY THIS YEAR, LET'S TAKE MONEY OUT THIS YEAR. THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD DO THINGS AROUND HERE. NOT SPEND MORE MONEY THIS YEAR AND FIND FUNNY MONEY DOWN THE ROAD TO PAY FOR IT. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT A LONG TIME AROUND HERE. LET'S GET SERIOUS. AND SO WE GOT SERIOUS. WE MADE A SERIOUS COMPROMISE. AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD A SERIOUS COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. THAT WOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED TWO MAJOR THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN -- THREE THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE MAJORITY -- EXCUSE ME, THE MINORITY LEADER, SENATOR DASCHLE, FOLKS ON HIS SIDE, ALMOST ALL OF WHAT THEY WANTED IN THIS INCREASE IN SOCIAL SPENDING -- ALMOST. INSTEAD OF $1.3 BILLION, WE GET $800 MILLION IN MORE SPENDING. $800 MILLION IN MORE SPENDING ON MANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT EXACTLY WELL RECEIVED ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE. LIKE THE AMERICORPS PROGRAM. WE GAVE THEM AN INCREASE IN THE AMERICORPS PROGRAM FROM WHAT THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAD SUGGESTED. WE ALLOWED AN INCREASE OF $100 MILLION IN A PROGRAM THAT IN OUR AMENDMENT WE WANTED TO CUT BY $200 MILLION. SO FROM WHERE WE STARTED, WE GAVE THEM A $300 MILLION INCREASE. WELL, THAT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. WE GAVE THEM ALL THE MONEY THEY WANTED IN W.I.C., SCHOOL-TO-WORK, CHILD CARE, HEAD START, $60 MILLION OF THE $67 MILLION THEY WANTED FOR GOALS 2000, TITLE 1, IMPACT AID, SAFE AND DRUG-FREE SCHOOLS, INDIAN HOUSING, HOUSING MODERNIZATION, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BANKS -- EVERY SOCIAL PROGRAM, ALL THE WAY DOWN -- THEY GOT ALMOST ALL OF WHAT THEY WANTED. WE TOOK SOME OF THEIR CUTS. SOME OF THE THINGS THEY USED IN THE ORIGINAL DASCHLE AMENDMENT TO PAY FOR THIS BILL WE ACCEPTED. WE ACCEPTED AS WAYS TO PAY FOR THIS. AND WE SAID, OKAY, IN EXCHANGE TO NOT GETTING ALL THAT YOU WANTED, WE WON'T TAKE ALL THAT WE WANTED. WE'LL GET RID OF A LOT OF THE PROPOSED REDUCTIONS THAT WE WANTED. AND WE PUT ON THE TABLE SOME PRETTY MINOR THINGS, FOLKS. REDUCING THE FOREIGN OPERATIONS, FOREIGN AID, BY $25 MILLION. $25 MILLION. LIBRARIES BY $10 MILLION. AND, BY THE WAY, THE LIBRARIES' MONEY WAS THE PRESIDENT'S RESCISSION. THAT'S THE PRESIDENT'S SUGGESTION TO US WAS TO TAKE THIS MONEY OUT. SAID IT WASN'T NEEDED. FEDERAL ADMINISTRATIVE TRAVEL -- SOMETHING THAT THEY AGREED TO, THAT THEY SUGGESTED WE INCREASE -- WE INCREASED A CUT OF $225 MILLION. BY THE WAY, THAT'S OUT OF $107 BILLION BUDGET. WE'RE TAKING OUT $225 MILLION IN FEDERAL TRAVEL. HARDLY SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC IS CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT TRAVELING ENOUGH AROUND HERE. WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, AN OLD STICKING POINT. WE TOOK OUT OF THEIR SACRED LITTLE COW $21 MILLION OUT OF $312 MILLION, AND WE TOOK $21 MILLION OUT OF THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING. IN THE END, WE WOULD HAVE HAD SAVINGS OF $1.6 BILLION; THEY HAD ADDITIONAL SPENDING OF $800 MILLION, WHICH GETS US A NET DEFICIT REDUCTION OUT OF THIS AMENDMENT OF $800 MILLION. SO WE BOTH WIN. THEY GET $800 MILLION IN MORE SPENDING, WE GET $800 MILLION IN DEFICIT REDUCTION, SO EVERYBODY SORT OF STANDS EVEN. THAT -- I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT COMPROMISES WERE ALL ABOUT. AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT IN THE NEXT 45 MINUTES THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS WHO SEEM TO BE HOLDING UP THIS COMPROMISE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND REALIZE THAT IT'S THE BEST INTERESTS OF THIS BODY AND THIS CONGRESS AND THIS COUNTRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS COMPROMISE PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND GET THIS ENACTED. I YIELD THE FLOOR. MR. SANTORUM: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SANTORUM: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE EIGHT UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUESTS FOR COMMITTEES TO MEET DURING TODAY'S SESSION OF THE SENATE.

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  • 12:16:22 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    FOR COMMITTEES TO MEET DURING TODAY'S SESSION OF THE SENATE.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MEET DURING TODAY'S SESSION OF THE SENATE. THEY ALL HAVE BEEN APPROVED --…

    MEET DURING TODAY'S SESSION OF THE SENATE. THEY ALL HAVE BEEN APPROVED -- ALL HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER.

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    MR. SANTORUM

    HAVE BEEN APPROVED -- ALL HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER. I…

    HAVE BEEN APPROVED -- ALL HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THESE REQUESTS BE AGREED TO EN BLOC AND THAT EACH REQUEST BE PRINTED IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. D'AMATO: MR. PRESIDENT? MR. PRESIDENT, TWO MORNINGS AGO I GAVE A RADIO INTERVIEW ON THE "IMIS TALK SHOW" PROGRAM. MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MORNINGS AGO I GAVE A RADIO INTERVIEW ON THE "IMIS TALK SHOW" PROGRAM. MR.

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    MR. D'AMATO

    ON THE "IMIS TALK SHOW" PROGRAM. MR. PRESIDENT, I AM HERE ON THE SENATE…

    ON THE "IMIS TALK SHOW" PROGRAM. MR. PRESIDENT, I AM HERE ON THE SENATE FLOOR TO GIVE A STATEMENT AS IT RELATES TO THAT EPISODE. IT WAS A SORRY EPISODE. MR. PRESIDENT, AS AN ITALIAN-AMERICAN, I HAVE A SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO BE SENSITIVE TO ETHNIC STEREOTYPING. I FULLY RECOGNIZE THE INSENSITIVITY OF MY REMARKS ABOUT JUDGE ITO. MY REMARKS WERE TOTALLY WRONG AND INAPPROPRIATE. I KNOW BETTER. WHAT I DID WAS A POOR ATTEMPT AT HUMOR. I AM DEEPLY SORRY FOR THE PAIN I HAVE CAUSED JUDGE ITO AND OTHERS. I OFFER MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    GRASSLEY: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT AS IF TO SPEAK IN MORNING BUSINESS FOR…

    GRASSLEY: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT AS IF TO SPEAK IN MORNING BUSINESS FOR SEVEN MINUTES. THE

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    MR. GRASSLEY

    IN MORNING BUSINESS FOR SEVEN MINUTES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT…

    IN MORNING BUSINESS FOR SEVEN MINUTES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 12:26:18 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. GRASSLEY

    I WANT TO DISCUSS A BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS SPECIAL REPORT THAT IS…

    I WANT TO DISCUSS A BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS SPECIAL REPORT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. I'M

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RELEASED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. I'M VERY DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER…

    RELEASED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. I'M VERY DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE POLITICAL MANIPULATION OF A GOVERNMENT REPORT. THIS

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    MR. GRASSLEY

    NEAR FUTURE. I'M VERY DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE POLITICAL…

    NEAR FUTURE. I'M VERY DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE POLITICAL MANIPULATION OF A GOVERNMENT REPORT. THIS DRAFT REPORT CONCERNS TORT CASES IN STATE COURTS. ONE OF THE SO-CALLED FINDINGS OF WHAT IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FLAWED REPORT IS THAT TORT CASE FILINGS HAVE REMAINED STEADY AND THAT THERE IS NO TORT LITIGATION EXPLOSION. I BELIEVE THIS DOCUMENT BY THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS WAS CLEARLY PREPARED FOR POLITICAL REASONS. THIS IS UNDERSCORED BY THE FACT THAT THE STUDY CONVENIENTLY OMITS ANY STUDY OF THE COST OF TROTTERS. IT OMITS -- ALL FEDERAL LIABILITY SUITS AND IT IS A SCIENTIFICALLY FLAWED, TELEPHONE-BASED SURVEY ON ONLY A FRACTION OF THE COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES. IN ADDITION, THE REPORT DOESN'T EVEN ADDRESS MANY OF THE IMPORTANT ISSUES REGARDING TORT REFORM. INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT ARE SOME OF THE RESULTS FROM A STUDY OF TORT CASES IN STATE COURTS. THE STUDY CLAIMS THAT THE BASIS OF THIS REPORT IS A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLING OF THE COURTS IN WHICH HALF OF ALL TORT CASES NATIONWIDE ARE ADJUDICATED. I DISAGREE WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST OF ALL, THE REPORT ONLY INVOLVES 16 STATES AND A TOTAL OF 75 COUNTIES OUT OF OUR MORE THAN 3,000 COUNTIES. BUT THERE IS NOTHING SCIENTIFIC ABOUT THEIR SELECTION. THEY ARE SIMPLY THE 7 AMOST POPULOUS COUNTIES. AND EVEN IF THEY WERE SELECTED RANDOMLY, THE RESULTS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER. FILINGS ARE NOT RANDOM OCCURRENCES. THE NUMBER OF FILINGS IN ANY SET OF COUNTIES CAN'T POSSIBLY REPRESENT ANYTHING BUT THE COUNTIES THAT ARE BEING SURVEYED. WORSE, THIS STUDY DOESN'T EVEN INVOLVE THE USE OF THE MOST RUDIMENTARY SAMPLING TECHNIQUES. IT RELIES ON ONLY THE 75 LARGEST COUNTIES AND FURTHER STRAFIED THEM SO THAT ONLY SAMPLES OF DATA IN SOME OF THE COUNTIES WAS USED. AFTER READING OVER THIS STUDY, YOU WILL FIND THAT THERE IS A LACK OF RATIONAL SAMPLING METHODOLOGY IN SELECTING WHICH COUNTIES WOULD BE USED. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE BUREAU'S SPECIAL REPORT THAT THE COUNTIES SELECTED ARE IN ANY WAY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. HOWEVER, ONCE THE COUNTIES WERE SELECTED, ONLY A FEW OF THOSE WERE USED TO SELECT VARIOUS KINDS OF DATA. THE COUNTIES WERE DIVIDED INTO FOUR STRATA. ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW THE STRATA WERE DEFINED. IN THE FIRST STRATA, ALL 14 COUNTIES WERE SELECTED FOR THE FIRST STAGE OF THE STUDY. IN THE SECOND STRATA, ONLY 12 OF 15. IN THE THIRD, ONLY 10 OF 20. AND IN THE FOURTH, ONLY 9 OF 26. IN THE SECOND PHASE, THE STUDY RELIED ON INTERVAL OR RANDOM SAMPLES. IT SEEMS UNUSUAL TO USE MORE THAN ONE SAMPLING METHOD AS THEY HAVE HERE. IN THIS STUDY, IT READS -- QUOTE -- "CONTRARY TO THE BELIEF THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN EXPLOSION OF TORT LITIGATION, TORT CASE FILINGS HAVE REMAINED STABLE SINCE 1986," ACCORDING TO MULTISTATE DATA. NOW, THERE IS NO RATIONAL WAY TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THERE HAS BEEN AN EXPLOSION IN TORT FILINGS OR NOT FROM THIS STUDY SINCE THE DATA IS LIMITED TO 1990 FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE STUDY AND FOR A YEAR PERIOD FROM MID-1992 TO MID--- MID-1991 TO MID-1992. IT SHOULD ALSO BE POINTED OUT THAT THE STUDY WAS BASED ON PHONE INTERVIEWS IN ONLY 45 OF THE 75 LARGEST COUNTIES. NOW, TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION IN TORT FILINGS, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO START WITH DATA AT LEAST AS FAR BACK AS 1970 OR MAYBE AS LATE AS 1980 TO RUN A LONGITUDINAL ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. THE STUDY SIMPLY DECLARES OUT OF THIN AIR THAT -- AND I REPEAT A QUOTE -- "THAT THERE'S MULTISTATE DATA SINCE 1985 WHICH PROVES THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY SUCH EXPLOSION. ANOTHER CONCERN I HAD WAS THE FACT THAT NO FINANCIAL DATA OF ANY KIND WAS SHOWN ANYWHERE IN THE REPORT. LET ME STRESS THAT AGAIN. IN THIS WHOLE STUDY OF TORT LIABILITY EXPLOSIONS, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL DATA OF ANY KIND VOFLTD IN THE REPORT. THIS MEANS THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO IDENTIFY THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL INDICATORS. THE REPORT SIMPLY OMITS ANY DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THE SIZE OF TORT AWARDS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO FINANCIAL DATA, THERE IS NO WAY TO SEE IF VENUE SHOPPING IS REAL OR NOT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THAT AWARDS IN CERTAIN COUNTIES IN TEXAS ARE EXTREME, HOWEVER YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THAT FROM THIS REPORT. THE REPORT ALSO CONVENIENTLY FAILS TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ON THE EFFECT OF LARGE TORT AWARDS ON SETTLEMENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, ONE COULD ASK, ARE SETTLEMENTS MADE MORE OFTEN NOW WITHOUT REGARD TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF AN EXPENSIVE SUIT? THIS STUDY DOESN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BE IT DOESN'T DO IT, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT ALSO CONVENIENTLY FAILED TO INCLUDE ANY DATA ON AWARD AMOUNTS. LASTLY, THIS REPORT DOES NOT LIMIT ITSELF TO THE TORTS WITH WHICH WE ARE MOST CONCERNED. THOSE THAT EFFECT PRODUCTS, LIKE PRODUCT LIABILITY, THOSE THAT EFFECT PREMISES, LIABILITY, AND MEDICAL MALPRACTICE. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THOSE. INSTEAD IT INCLUDES AUTO TORTS, WHICH MAKE UP MORE THAN 60% OF ALL TORT CASES CONSIDERED. THIS SEEMS TO MAKE EVERY OTHER TORT LOOK MINOR, EVEN THOUGH AUTO TORTS ARE VERY COMMON. GENERALLY, THEY ARE VERY QUICKLY SETTLED, AND GENERALLY THEY INVOLVE ONLY ONE OR TWO PARTIES, AND RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY. BY ADDING AUTO TORTS, THE AVERAGE TIME FOR THE DISPOSITION OF ALL TORTS FALLS TO ABOUT 19 MONTHS, WHEREAS THE AUTO TORTS AVERAGE LESS THAN 17 MONTHS. YET ALL OTHER TORTS AVERAGE MORE LIKE TWO YEARS, INVOLVE MORE PARTIES, AND THEY INVOLVE MUCH LARGER AMOUNTS OF MONEY. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE CRITICISMS THAT CAN BE LEVELED AT THIS FLAWED AND I WILL CONCEIVED -- ILL CONCEIVED REPORT. THE MORE TELLING THINGS TIMING OF ITS RELEASE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE POLITICAL MANIPULATION BEHIND THE REPORT. WE KNOW THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON ONE OF HIS MOST SPECIAL INTEREST SUPPORTERS THE TRIAL LAWYERS ASSOCIATION OPPOSES TORT REFORM. APPARENTLY THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE REPORT OUT BEFORE THE HOUSE CONSIDERED TORT REFORM. THE GOAL NOW SEEMS TO BE TO RELEASE IT BEFORE THE SENATE TAKES UP TORT REFORM. THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS CLAIMS THE STUDY HAS BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IF THIS IS SO, AND THEY INDEED HAD SEVERAL YEARS TO COMPILE THE STUDY, WHY IS IT SO LIMITED AND SO CONVENIENTLY TIMED? I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS DOCUMENT, BY THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS, WAS CLEARLY PREPARED FOR POLITICAL REASONS. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS UNDER SCORED BY THE FACT THAT THE STUDY CONVENIENTLY OMITS ANY STUDY OF THE COST OF TORTS, NO STUDY OF THE COST OF TORTS, IT OMITS ALL FEDERAL LIABILITY SUITS, AND IS A SCIENTIFICLY FRAUD TELEPHONE-BASED SURVEY, OF ONLY A FRACTION OF THE COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES. IN ADDITION, THE REPORT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUES, SUCH AS WHAT EFFECT DO LARGE AWARDS HAVE ON SETTLEMENTS, AND IS THERE ERX TENSIVE VENUE SHOPPING FOR THOSE COUNTIES WHICH CONSISTENTLY MAKE THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS AWARDS. YOU COULD HIPTE SIZE ABOUT THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. THAT IS WHY OUR CIVIL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS IN NEED OF REFORM, AND STUDIES LIKE THIS I THINK CLOUD THE ISSUE. IF THIS REPORT COMES OUT AS WRITTEN, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED, THE PEOPLE IN THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS SHOULD BE A SHIMD THAT THEY ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO BE USED FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WOULD TRY TO REESTABLISH SOME CREDIBILITY AND INTEGRITY BY REFUSING TO RELEASE THIS REPORT, OR AT LEAST REQUIRING IT TO MEET MINIMUM SCIENTIFIC STANDARDS. I WOULD ALSO HOPE AND EVEN CHALLENGE THE MEDIA TO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER AND SHINE SOME LIGHT ON THE POLITICAL MANEUVERING THAT IS GOING ON OVER AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. SNOUP THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL OR ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, MR. SH MYTH WILL BE BRIEFED ON THIS TOMORROW, AND HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS STUDY IS, IF IT IS GOING TO BE USED AS A BASIS, IS DONE IN A MORE SCIENTIFIC AND INTELLECTUALLY HONEST WAY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT SEEMS TO ME, SINCE THIS STUPID I HAS BEEN SUPPOSEDLY GOING ON FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THAT WE DON'T LET IT COME OUT AT JUST ABOUT THIS TIME THAT THE SENATE IS GOING TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF TORT REFORM. THERE HAS TO BE THE INTEGRITY OF AN AGENCY AS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PARTICULARLY UNDER THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL SEEMS TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDENCE AND INTEGRITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T THIS SORT OF MAO MANIPULATION THAT IS GOING TO UNDERCUT THE PRINCIPLED APPROACH TO RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT THAT OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS ASSUMED. I HOPE THAT MY SPEAKING AT THIS POINT WILL ENCOURAGE ANOTHER LOOK-SEE AT THIS REPORT. AND I HOPE THAT THAT THE REPORT THAT I HAVE SEEN WILL NOT BE THE ONE THAT COMES OUT. AND I THINK THERE IS PLENTY OF CHECKS AND BALANCES WITHIN OUR SYSTEM TO SEE THAT IT DOESN'T. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES WOULD WORK IN THIS INSTANCE. I YIELD THE FLOOR. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 12:38:36 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    REGARD TO THE PENDING LEGISLATION. WE HAD HOPED THAT AS A RESULT OF OUR…

    REGARD TO THE PENDING LEGISLATION. WE HAD HOPED THAT AS A RESULT OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED IN GOOD FAITH ON BOTH SIDES, WOULD LEAD HOPEFULLY TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO SOME CLOSURE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER. UNFORTUNATELY, AS

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  • 12:38:39 PM

    MR. DASCHLE

    HOPED THAT AS A RESULT OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED IN…

    HOPED THAT AS A RESULT OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED IN GOOD FAITH ON BOTH SIDES, WOULD LEAD HOPEFULLY TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO SOME CLOSURE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER. UNFORTUNATELY, AS A RESULT OF DIFFERENCES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WITH REGARD TO THE AGREEMENT, AMENDMENTS ARE LIKELY WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ON-GOING -- OR I SHOULD SAY THE RESULT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS, AND AS A RESULT THE REAL PROSPECT THAT THE AGREEMENT COULD BE SUCCESSFULLY CONCLUDED IN DEBATE ON THE FLOOR THIS AFTERNOON BECOMES INCREASINGLY UNLIKELY. I'M DISAPPOINTED, BECAUSE I FEEL IT WAS AN EFFORT MADE ON THE PART OF MANY SENATORS, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, TO BRIDGE OUR DIFFERENCES TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE ALL WANT. THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE HAD PENDING HAS NOW BEEN PENDING FOR A WEEK. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY DURING THESE NEGOTIATIONS TO VOTE ON IT, OR ON ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENT. WE HAVE BEEN HOPEFUL THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS, WE COULD HAVE COME TO SOME CONCLUSION ABOUT THE AGREEMENT OR ABOUT AT LEAST A TIME LIMIT RELATING TO THE AMENDMENTS, AND COME TO SOME CONCLUSION THIS WEEK IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THAT NOW DOES NOT LOOK POSSIBLE. BUT THE FACT IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE VOTES ON THESE AMENDMENTS, WE WILL WILL COME TO THE CLOTURE VOTE THIS AFTERNOON, NOT HAVING HAD ONE VOTE ON ONE DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENT. AS A RESULT, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PROTECT OUR RIGHT TO OFFER THESE AMENDMENTS. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO RECALL HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE OFFERED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ON THIS FLOOR NOW FOR MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS, THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE GOOD DEBATES ABOUT THOSE ISSUES PRIOR TO THE TIME WE COME TO CLOSURE ON THIS VOTE. AS I HAVE SAID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, WE REALLY HAVE THROW GOALS HERE. THE FIRST GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION IS ADEQUATELY NUNDED. THE SECOND GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE NECESSARY DEFICIT REDUCTION THAT THIS RESCISSION PACKAGE WILL ALLOW, AND WE'RE NOW AT A POINT OF SOMEWHERE AROUND SEVEN -- I SHOULD SAY, $15 BILLION IN TOTAL DEFICIT REDUCTION PACKAGE, AND THE THIRD GOAL WAS ONE THAT ALL OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE FEEL ESPECIALLY STRONGLY ABOUT, AND THAT IS IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT RIGHT. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S ENSURE THAT WE DON'T EAT THE SEED CORN. LET'S ENSURE THAT AS WE REMEMBER OUR PRIORITIES, WE REMEMBER OUR KIDS AND WORKING FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY. THOSE WERE THE THREE GOALS. OUR WHOLE EFFORT, THE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE PEND BEING, IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THREE GOALS. WITHOUT THAT AMENDMENT, UNFORTUNATELY, ALL WE DO IS ACCOMPLISH THE FIRST TWO GOALS. WE PROVIDE ADD QAUT FUNDING FOR FEMA, WE PROVIDE FOR NECESSARY DEFICIT REDUCTION, BUT WE DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF KIDS. WE DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COUNTING ON THESE INVESTMENTS SO THEY CAN BE THE PRODUCTIVE WORKING PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO BE. THAT IS WHAT THIS DEBATE WAS ABOUT. SO THIS CLOTURE VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT. IT IS A CLOTURE VOTE THAT WILL ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THREE GOALS. WITHOUT DEFEATING CLOTURE, WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT PROTECTION. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AS LOUDLY AND AS PLAINLY AS I POSSIBLY CAN, OUR DESIRE IS NOT TO HOLD-UP THIS BILL. OUR HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD-UP THIS BILL. OUR HOPE IT THAT BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAN COME TO TIME AGREEMENTS ON AMENDMENTS, WE WILL HAVE UP OR DOWN VOTES ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THIS SIDE, DO SO IN A WAY THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET OUR BUSINESS ACCOMPLISHED, WILL FINISH, WE WILL HAVE FINAL PASSAGE, AND WE CAN ALL GO HOME SATISFIED. HOWEVER THE VOTES MAY FALL. WE ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. WE 0 WOULD ONLY HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE UP OR DOWN VOTES ON THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE THAT IS CRITICAL TO THE DEGREE OF ENTHUSIASM, THE DEGREE OF SUPPORT THAT WE ULTIMATELY WILL HAVE FOR THE BILL ITSELF. BUT I THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN A RIGHT TO DATE TO OFFER THOSE AMENDMENTS, AND IT IS EQUALLY AS CLEAR THAT UNLESS WE BLOCK CLOTURE THIS AFTERNOON, WE WILL NOT HAVE, AFTER 2:00 TODAY. SO MR. PRESIDENT, I COME TO THE FLOOR TO EXPRESS REGRET THAT IN GOOD FAITH WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT I SINCERELY HAD HOPED WE COULD ACCOMPLISH. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, WE NOW MUST ACCOMPLISH WHAT OUR RIDGE SIGNAL INTENT WAS, WHICH WAS TO TRY TO PROTECT ALL THREE GOALS AS WE MOVE TOWARDS FINAL PASSAGE OF THIS LEGISLATION. SO I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO WEIGH CAREFULLY THEIR DECISION ON THIS CLOTURE MOTION. I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD HE COULD DEFEAT IT, NOT IN THE INTEREST OF EXTENDING DEBATE, NOT IN THE INTEREST OF PROLONGING THIS ISSUE ANY LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF ACCOMPLISHING THE THREE GOALS AND PROTECTING OUR RIGHTS TO OFFER AMENDMENTS AND IMPROVE LEGISLATION, AS THESE OCCASIONS ARISE. SO MR. PRESIDENT, TO ACCOMMODATE MY COLLEAGUES, WHO HAVE AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL, IT'S IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT FROM A PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE MOTION ONLY TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT, TO ALLOW OTHERS TO OFFER THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE WILL SO OFFER. I WILL CERTAINLY COME BACK AT A LATER TIME, AND DESCRIBE AS WE INTEND TO, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WILL MAKE IN THE COMPOSITE, WHAT OUR AMENDMENT ORIGINALLY WAS DESIGNED TO DO AS IT WAS LAID DOWN LAST FRIDAY. SO WE WILL DO THAT AT A DATE OR AT A TIME LATER, PERHAPS TODAY, BUT AT THIS TIME, I WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT. I YIELD THE FLOOR.

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  • 12:45:55 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TOO, FALLS. THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS. MR. PRYOR: MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK…

    TOO, FALLS. THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS. MR. PRYOR: MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK THE CHAIR, ARE WE IN MORNING BUSINESS AT THIS TIME?

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  • 12:46:09 PM

    MR. PRYOR

    ON ANY SUBJECT HE WISHES. MR. PRYOR: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I MAY…

    ON ANY SUBJECT HE WISHES. MR. PRYOR: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS, MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 12:46:15 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS, MR.…

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I MAY SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS, MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 12:46:25 PM

    MR. PRYOR

    I DO RISE THIS AFTERNOON TO INTRODUCE THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT ACT OF…

    I DO RISE THIS AFTERNOON TO INTRODUCE THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT ACT OF 1995. THIS BILL IS MODELED AFTER THE BIPARTISAN APPROACHES CONTAINED IN THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS OF LAST YEAR. THE

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  • 12:46:32 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IS MODELED AFTER THE BIPARTISAN APPROACHES CONTAINED IN THE CHILD SUPPORT…

    IS MODELED AFTER THE BIPARTISAN APPROACHES CONTAINED IN THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS OF LAST YEAR. THE

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  • 12:46:35 PM

    MR. PRYOR

    CONTAINED IN THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS OF LAST…

    CONTAINED IN THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS OF LAST YEAR. THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY FACE IN THIS AREA OF CHILD SUPPORT OR LACK OF CHILD SUPPORT, I SHOULD SAY, HAVE BEEN WELL RESEARCHED, ANALYZED IN A RECENTLY RELEASED REPORT, WRITTEN AT MY REQUEST BY THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE, G.A.O. ONE OF THE MOST TELLING FACTS IN THIS PARTICULAR G.A.O. REPORT, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT THE NATIONAL CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT CASE LOAD GREW 180% BETWEEN 1980, AND 1992. THIS STATISTIC SPEAKS VOLUMES. IN 1994 ALONE, THE 15 MILLION CHILD SUPPORT INDICATIONS, NATIONWIDE, REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR NEEDIEST FAMILIES IN AMERICA. IF THE ESTIMATED $34 BILLION THAT IS OWED TO THESE FAMILIES COULD BE COLLECTED, THE TAXPAYERS OF AMERICA WOULD RECEIVE SOME MUCH NEEDED CORRESPONDING RELIEF AS A RESULT. REDUCTIONS THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE IN MANY OF OUR WELFARE PROGRAMS. MR. PRESIDENT, I HELD A HEARING ON CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT LAST JULY, 1994. WE TRIED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AT THAT HEARING WHY THIS MONEY IS NOT IN FACT BEING COLLECTED. THIS HEARING LEAD ME TO CONCLUDE THAT UNTIL WE IMPROVE THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS AT THE LOCAL, THE STATE, AND THE FEDERAL LEVELS, WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THE CHILDREN RECEIVE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE FAMILIES TO WHICH THEY ARE JUSTLY ENTITLED. THERE ARE MANY ISSUES RAISED IN THE HEARING THAT WE HELD LAST JULY REGARDING CHILD SUPPORT THAT ARE WORTHY, I THINK, OF OUR ATTENTION, BUT ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT I WISH TO ESPECIALLY HIGHLIGHT, IS THE CASE LOAD OF MANY OF THE STATE WORKERS WHO ARE TRYING TO HELP CUSTODIAL PARENTS COLLECT THEIR PAYMENTS. MR. PRESIDENT, ONE WITNESS, A CASEWORKER FROM THE STATE OF VIRGINIA TESTIFIED THAT SHE COULD ONLY SPEND APPROXIMATELY 12 MINUTES EACH MONTH WITH ANY ONE CLIENT. MR. PRESIDENT, 12 MINUTES A MONTH IS SIMPLY NOT TIME ENOUGH TO EFFECTIVELY DEAL WITH ALL OF THE COMPLEX ISSUES INVOLVED IN THESE CASES. ANOTHER WITNESS THAT WE HAD WAS MS. JUDY JONES JORDAN, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IN THE STATE OF ARKANSAS. OUR STATE IS INDEED FORTUNATE TO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATOR OF SUCH A CRITICAL PROGRAM. CHEF TESTIFIED THAT THE SYSTEM HAD BOGGED DOWN UNMERCIFULLY. RATHER THAN HAVING A CLEAR MISSION, THE STATE PROGRAMS TODAY ARE SUBJECT TO SO MUCH FEDERAL OVERSIGHT THAT GETTING THE JOB DONE HAS BECOME AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE. MS. JORDAN STATED, AND I SKWOTE, THE "THE PROGRAMS HAS CHANGED FROM ONE DESIGN TO ASSIST FAMILIES AND REDUCE THE COST OF PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, TO ONE STPOE CUSHIONED ON PASSING AUDITS AND AVOIDING FEDERAL PENALTIES." MR. PRESIDENT, THE LEGISLATION THAT I AM INTRODUCING TODAY IS AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS IDENTIFIED BY MS. JORDAN, IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE DEFAULT RATE ON USED CAR LOANS IS 3%, AND THE DEFAULT RATE ON CHILD SUPPORT ORDERS IS NEARLY 50%, WE NEED TO GREATLY I AM PROOFRB THE WAY THAT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE ACTUALLY WORKS. THIS LEGISLATION THAT I AM INTRODUCING ADDRESSES THE KEY ISSUES WHICH I THINK WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE OPERATION OF THE CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM. FIRST THE FEDERAL AUDIT REQUIREMENTS WILL BE REVISED SO THAT THEY BECOME A FAR LESSON RUSS BURDEN ON THE STATES. IN FACT, MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THAT THE NEW PROCEDURES ARE GOING TO TRANCE FOREIGN, DRAMATICALLY, THIS PROCESS, INTO A HELPFUL AND NECESSARY EVALUATION THAT WILL PROVIDE THE STATES WITH USEFUL INFORMATION ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEIR PROGRAM, WHILE ENSURING ACCOUNTABILITY OF FEDERAL DOLLARS. THE SECOND THING THAT MY LEGISLATION WOULD DO, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT THE FUNDING SYSTEM ITSELF IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED TO ADDRESS THE G.A.O.'S FINDING THAT PRESENT SYSTEM DOES NOT PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO THE STATES FOR IMPROVING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM. THIRDLY, THE LEGISLATION WILL REQUIRE THE STATES TO SUSPEND DRIVERS LICENSES AND OTHER LICENSES IF NECESSARY, BOTH PROFESSIONAL AND RECREATIONAL, OF PARENTS WHO ARE DELINQUENT IN THEIR CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT. THE STATE OF ARKANSAS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS FOUND THAT THIS PROGRAM IS VERY EFFECTIVE. IT IN ENCOURAGING NONCUSTODIAL PARENTS TO PROMPTLY PAY THEIR CHILD SUPPORT OBLIGATIONS. FINALLY THIS LEGISLATION ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE OF THE OVERBURDENED CASEWORKERS IN THE STATE CHILD SUPPORT OFFICES. THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND THE STATES WILL SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF STAFFING NECESSARY FOR EACH STATE TO EFFECTIVELY CARRY OUT ITS CHILD SUPPORT PROGRAM. IT IS OUR HOPE THAT WITH THE BENEFIT OF THIS JOINT EFFORT, THE STATE PROGRAMS WILL THEN BE ABLE TO AT LEAST PARTIALLY ADDRESS THIS VERY CRITICAL AREA. MR. PRESIDENT, THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS THE KEY TO TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN. THERE IS NO SECRET ABOUT THAT. BUT IT IS MY BELIEF THAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS A LIMITED BUT IMPORTANT ROLE TO ENSURE THAT IT IS EASY FOR NONCUSTODIAL PARENTS TO FULFILL THEIR DUTIES, AND VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO AVOID THOSE DUTIES. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT A SECTION BY SECTION ANALYSIS OF MY LEGISLATION BE INCLUDED AFTER MY STATEMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. PRYOR: MR. PRESIDENT, I ALSO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT OTHER EXTRANEOUS MATTER RELATED TO THIS ISSUE AND A LETTER SUBMITTED TO ME IN BEE HEAF OF THE STATE OF ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, ALSO BE INCLUDED AT THIS POINT IN THE RECORD. THE

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  • 12:53:04 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IN BEE HEAF OF THE STATE OF ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, ALSO BE…

    IN BEE HEAF OF THE STATE OF ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, ALSO BE INCLUDED AT THIS POINT IN THE RECORD. THE

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  • 12:53:06 PM

    MR. PRYOR

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI.

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    MR. PRYOR

    MIGRATE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT AFTER WORKING FOR OVER A WEEK NO AGREEMENT HAS…

    MIGRATE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT AFTER WORKING FOR OVER A WEEK NO AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED ON THIS LEGISLATION. AND NOW WE WILL BE GOING TO A CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I CERTAINLY

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  • 12:53:32 PM

    MR. LOTT

    ON THIS LEGISLATION. AND NOW WE WILL BE GOING TO A CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I…

    ON THIS LEGISLATION. AND NOW WE WILL BE GOING TO A CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I CERTAINLY

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  • 12:53:33 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AND NOW WE WILL BE GOING TO A CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I CERTAINLY

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    MR. LOTT

    CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT CLOTURE WILL BE INVOKED, AND I…

    CLOTURE VOTE AT 2:00. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT CLOTURE WILL BE INVOKED, AND I REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT IF THAT IS DONE, WE STILL WILL HAVE LOTS OF TIME FOR DEBATE. 30 HOURS I BELIEVE, GERMANE AMENDMENTS WOULD STILL BE IN ORDER, AND I THINK THAT MOST OF THE KEY AMENDMENTS THAT OUR COLLEAGUES ON THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN, WOULD BE GERMANE, BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME 72 AMENDMENTS ON ONE SIDE PENDING, AND A NUMBER ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE STILL HAVE 100 AMENDMENTS AT THE DESK, MANY OF THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT GERMANE, AND REALLY NOBODY EVER INTENDED FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY BE VOTED ON, I SUSPECT. BUT AFTER A WEEK OF NEGOTIATIONS, WE BASICALLY CAME UP EMPTY-HANDED. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD FAITH EFFORT. I THOUGHT THAT A REASONABLE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE DASCHLE AMENDMENT AND THE DOLE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PENDING, WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE A FEW AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE OFFERED, AND BOTH SIDES, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, WHATEVER, BUT THAT WE WOULD FIND A WAY TO BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION. AND HERE WE ARE, THURSDAY AFTERNOON, PRESUMABLY WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT TOMORROW OR TONIGHT OR SATURDAY OR SOMETIME FOR THE EASTER RECESS PERIOD, AND I JUST HAVE TO RAISE THIS SPECTER. ARE WE NOW GOING TO JUST KIND OF LET THIS KIND OF GO OFF INTO THE NIGHT WITH NO RESULTS? NO DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL APPRORIATIONS, NO JORDAN AID? NO RESCISSION PACKAGE? IS THIS THE TOTAL WHITE FLAG? OF OUR EFFORT TO BEGIN TO SERIOUSLY DEAL WITH THE NEEDS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPRORIATIONS? COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AND PAID FOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, IN DISASTER AID, AND THE FIRST OPENING EFFORT, THE FIRST SHOT TO BEGIN TO DEAL WITH THE DEFICIT? ARE WE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANY OF THAT? JUST COLLAPSE IN A PUDDLE OF NOTHINGNESS HERE IN THE SENATE? I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD WANT TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO BEGIN TO MAKE SOME SAVINGS. THIS BILL PROVIDES SOME SAVINGS. THE DISTINGUISHED DEMOCRATIC LEADER JUST SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BILL PASSED. THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS LEGISLATION PASSED. WE WANT IT PASSED. EVERYBODY WANTS IT. WE DON'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET IT THE. SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO WORK, TO FIND A WAY TO GET AN AGREEMENT TO BRING ALL OF THESE ISSUES TO A CONCLUSION, ONE THAT I THINK WOULD BE BASICALLY SATISFACTORY TO BOTH SIDES. SURELY WE DISAGREE ON HOW WE SHOULD GET THERE, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE JUST STARTED VOTING, TAKING UP ISSUES AND VOTING ON THEM A WEEK AGO. BUT THERE WAS A FEELING THAT WE COULD REACH AN AGREEMENT, AND THAT NEGOTIATED STARTED I THINK LAST THURSDAY, AND HERE WE ARE A WEEK LATER, EMPTY-HANDED. SO I WOULD REALLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES HERE, THIS AFTERNOON, TO VOTE FOR THIS CLOTURE MOTION, SO THAT WE CAN LIMIT THE LIST OF AMENDMENTS TO SOMETHING SOMEWHAT OF A REASONABLE NUMBER, AT LEAST GERMANE AMENDMENTS, AND BEGIN TO GET SOME LIMIT ON THE TIME SO WEAPON CAN BRING ALL OF THESE ISSUES TO A CONCLUSION. THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR. THAT IS ALL WE WERE SKEEK SEEKING YESTERDAY. AND I THINK IF WOULD CERTAINLY SERVE US WELL IF WE WOULD INVOKE CLOTURE HERE AND THEN GO FORWARD. BUT FAILING THAT, SEE IF WE CANNOT ENTER INTO SOME TIME AGREEMENTS, SOME UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE LIMIT OF AMENDMENTS. THERE HAS BEEN NO REDUCTION, REALLY, IN THE NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PENDING OUT HERE. SO I WOULD BE GLAD TO YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS, IF HE WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO YIELD. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE HERE IN A MINUTE, DO YOU WANT ME TO YIELD. A SENATOR: WILL THE.

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  • 12:57:58 PM

    MR. PRYOR

    NAME ANY ONE WHO IS SLOWING DOWN THAT PARTICULAR BILL OVER HERE.

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    MR. LOTT

    WE WERE INVOLVED BASICALLY WITH AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY REPUBLICAN…

    WE WERE INVOLVED BASICALLY WITH AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY REPUBLICAN SENATOR, OUR FRIEND, SENATOR D'AMATO FROM NEW YORK RELATIVE TO MEXICAN AID. WE HAVE

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  • 12:58:15 PM

    MR. PRYOR

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY REPUBLICAN SENATOR, OUR FRIEND, SENATOR D'AMATO FROM…

    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY REPUBLICAN SENATOR, OUR FRIEND, SENATOR D'AMATO FROM NEW YORK RELATIVE TO MEXICAN AID. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING OUR VERY BEST TO START VOTING ON SOME AMENDMENTS OFFERED ON THIS SIDE, AND WE HAVE YET -- WE HAVE YET TO HAVE BEEN AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY. MR. LOTT: I WOULD RESPOND TO THE SENATOR. THERE HAS BEEN AN EFFORT GOING ON TO TRY TO WORK OUT A PROCESS WHERE WE CAN VOTE ON THE RELATED AMENDMENTS. A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS. AND BRING IT ALL TO A CONCLUSION. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE MEXICAN AMENDMENT, REALLY, BEFORE US, FOR QUITE SOMETIME.

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  • 12:58:43 PM

    MR. LOTT

    MAY I SAY TO THE SENATOR STHAU GO THROUGH

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    MR. FORD

    OR QUESTION FROM THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    MR. SANTORUM

    THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SANTORUM: MR. PRESIDENT,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SANTORUM: MR. PRESIDENT, ISN'T IT TRUE, I WOULD ASK…

    FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SANTORUM: MR. PRESIDENT, ISN'T IT TRUE, I WOULD ASK THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI, THAT 41 OF THE 72 DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENTS WOULD BE GERMANE AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, 41 HARDLY A PALTRY SUM, WOULD BE GERMANE, AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTED UPON? MR.

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  • 12:59:51 PM

    MR. LOTT

    ASK THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI, THAT 41 OF THE 72 DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENTS…

    ASK THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI, THAT 41 OF THE 72 DEMOCRATIC AMENDMENTS WOULD BE GERMANE AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, 41 HARDLY A PALTRY SUM, WOULD BE GERMANE, AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTED UPON? MR.

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  • 12:59:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE GERMANE AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN…

    BE GERMANE AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, 41 HARDLY A PALTRY SUM, WOULD BE GERMANE, AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTED UPON? MR.

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  • 12:59:58 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, 41 HARDLY A PALTRY…

    VOTE, SO 41 OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED, 41 HARDLY A PALTRY SUM, WOULD BE GERMANE, AFTER THIS CLOTURE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTED UPON? MR. LOTT: IF I MIGHT RESPOND, MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I THINK THAT ALL OF THE PORTIONS OF THE PENDING DASCHLE AMENDMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, COULD BE OFFERED UNDER THIS CLOTURE VOTE. MR. SANTORUM:

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  • 01:00:20 PM

    MR. LOTT

    BE OFFERED UNDER THIS CLOTURE VOTE. MR. SANTORUM: MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD…

    BE OFFERED UNDER THIS CLOTURE VOTE. MR. SANTORUM: MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, OF THE DASCHLE AMENDMENT ADD-BACKS THAT WE DEBAITDED FOR SEVERAL DAYS, ISN'T IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ADD BACKS WOBBLE JIBL TO BE ADDED BACK AFTER CLOTURE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GOALS 2000 PROVISION WHICH IS IN NEITHER THE HOUSE OR SENATE BILL. MR.

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  • 01:00:33 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    OF THOSE ADD BACKS WOBBLE JIBL TO BE ADDED BACK AFTER CLOTURE WITH THE…

    OF THOSE ADD BACKS WOBBLE JIBL TO BE ADDED BACK AFTER CLOTURE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GOALS 2000 PROVISION WHICH IS IN NEITHER THE HOUSE OR SENATE BILL. MR. LOTT: I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT EVERY ONE OF THE LOST TO FIND OUT IF THAT WOULD BE TRUE, BUT I UNDERSTAND BUT MAYBE ONLY THE GOALS 2000 WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE NOT OPEN TO BE OFFERED AFTER THE CLOTURE VOTE. MR.

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  • 01:00:53 PM

    MR. LOTT

    OFFERED AFTER THE CLOTURE VOTE. MR. SANTORUM: I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR…

    OFFERED AFTER THE CLOTURE VOTE. MR. SANTORUM: I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING.

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  • 01:01:05 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    MR. PRESIDENT, I HEAR ALL OF THIS BLAME PUT ON US. THE LAST TWO YEARS ALL…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I HEAR ALL OF THIS BLAME PUT ON US. THE LAST TWO YEARS ALL OF THE BLAME HAS BEEN THE OTHER WAY. I WISH

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  • 01:01:08 PM

    MR. LOTT

    US. THE LAST TWO YEARS ALL OF THE BLAME HAS BEEN THE OTHER WAY. I WISH…

    US. THE LAST TWO YEARS ALL OF THE BLAME HAS BEEN THE OTHER WAY. I WISH SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP ON THE OTHER SIDE WOULD GIVE ME AN HOUR SO THEY COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THEY PROVIDED FOR GRIDLOCK IN THE LAST SESSION, SO I WOULD BE BETTER AT GRIDLOCK THIS SESSION.

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  • 01:01:13 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP ON THE OTHER SIDE WOULD GIVE ME AN HOUR SO THEY…

    SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP ON THE OTHER SIDE WOULD GIVE ME AN HOUR SO THEY COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THEY PROVIDED FOR GRIDLOCK IN THE LAST SESSION, SO I WOULD BE BETTER AT GRIDLOCK THIS SESSION.

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  • 01:01:16 PM

    MR. FORD

    ME AN HOUR SO THEY COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THEY PROVIDED FOR GRIDLOCK IN…

    ME AN HOUR SO THEY COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THEY PROVIDED FOR GRIDLOCK IN THE LAST SESSION, SO I WOULD BE BETTER AT GRIDLOCK THIS SESSION. NOW YOU ARE NOW SIX DAYS LATE ON THE BUDGET. THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAD THE BUDGET ON TIME. IT WAS DUE APRIL THE FIRST. IT IS DUE OUT OF HERE BY BOTH HOUSES ON APRIL 15. WE HEAR ALL OF THIS MOANING AND GROANING AND CROCODILE TIERS ARCS IT RELATES TO WE WANT TO DO THIS, START SAVING, WE WANT TO START DOING THIS, BUT WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT IS DUE THAT PUT US ON THE TRACK TO 2002, AND YOU ARE FIVE DAYS LATE, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT PROBABLY UNTIL MAY, AND I SAY TO THE -- MY FRIEND, LET'S GET A BUDGET OUT HERE, LET'S REALLY START DOING THIN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE TIME. SENATOR HAS EXPIRED.

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  • 01:02:13 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THIS OUT. WE WERE ABOUT THAT CLOSE OR CLOSER. THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND…

    THIS OUT. WE WERE ABOUT THAT CLOSE OR CLOSER. THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND REPUBLICAN LEADER WORKED THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH OTHER SENATORS ON BOTH SIDES. WE

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  • 01:02:16 PM

    MR. DOLE

    DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND REPUBLICAN LEADER WORKED THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH…

    DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND REPUBLICAN LEADER WORKED THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH OTHER SENATORS ON BOTH SIDES. WE

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  • 01:02:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OTHER SENATORS ON BOTH SIDES. WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT. AND I

  • 01:02:21 PM

    MR. DOLE

    THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT. AND I STILL HOPE THAT IS POSSIBLE TO GET THE…

    THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT. AND I STILL HOPE THAT IS POSSIBLE TO GET THE AGREEMENT. IF THAT HAPPENS, WE COULD FINISH OUR WORK QUICKLY TODAY AND THERE WOULD BE KNOW VOTES TOMORROW OR SATURDAY. BUT IF NOT, THEN I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE THAN TO TRY TO COMPLETE THIS BILL TONIGHT, WITH OR WITHOUT CLOTURE. SO I STILL THINK THERE IS GENERAL HE SINCE OF AN AGREEMENT HERE, AND I WOULD SAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE, I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD HELP US REACH AN AGREEMENT, BECAUSE UNTIL THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THERE WON'T BE ANY DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL TAKEN UP IN THIS BODY. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE HOUR OF 2:00 ARRIVED, THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE MOTION TO INCLOAK CLOTURE.

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  • 01:03:12 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE STANDING RULES OF THE SENATE DO HEREBY BRING TO CLOSE THE DEBATE ON…

    THE STANDING RULES OF THE SENATE DO HEREBY BRING TO CLOSE THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1158, THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL, SIGNED BY 17 SENATORS. THE

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  • 01:03:20 PM

    THE CLERK

    SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL, SIGNED BY 17 SENATORS. THE PRESIDING…

    SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL, SIGNED BY 17 SENATORS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE QUORUM CALL HAS BEEN WAIVED.

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  • 01:03:33 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE QUORUM CALL HAS BEEN WAIVED. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT…

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE QUORUM CALL HAS BEEN WAIVED. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT THE SENSE OF THE SENATE THAT THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT, NUMBER 420, TO H.R. 1158, THE SUPPLEMENTAL PROPOSE KRAIGSS BILL, SHALL BE BROUGHT TO A CLOSE? THE YEAS AND THE NAYS ARE REQUIRED. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 01:28:15 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    MR. DOLE

    IF I COULD HAVE A MINUTE. MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND A CLOTURE PETITION TO THE…

    IF I COULD HAVE A MINUTE. MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND A CLOTURE PETITION TO THE DESK.

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  • 01:28:25 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PETITION TO THE DESK.

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    MR. DOLE

    CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: CLOTURE MOTION: WE THE UNDERSIGNED SENATORS…

    CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: CLOTURE MOTION: WE THE UNDERSIGNED SENATORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF RULE 22 OF THE STANDING RULES OF THE SENATE DO HEREBY BRING TO A CLOSE THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT, NUMBER 420 TO H.R.

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  • 01:28:38 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    22 OF THE STANDING RULES OF THE SENATE DO HEREBY BRING TO A CLOSE THE…

    22 OF THE STANDING RULES OF THE SENATE DO HEREBY BRING TO A CLOSE THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT, NUMBER 420 TO H.R.

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  • 01:28:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    DO HEREBY BRING TO A CLOSE THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT, NUMBER…

    DO HEREBY BRING TO A CLOSE THE DEBATE ON THE HATFIELD AMENDMENT, NUMBER 420 TO H.R. 1158, THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL, SIGNED BY 16 SENATORS AS FOLLOWS: DOLE, THOMPSON, SANTORUM, D'AMATO, LOTT, CRAIG, MACK, THOMAS, HELMS, CHAFEE, COCHRAN, HATFIELD, DOMENICI AND COATS AND CRAIG. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME INDICATE THE DISTINGUISHED DEMOCRATIC LEADER IS ON THE FLOOR. IT IS STILL MY HOPE WE CAN REACH SOME AGREEMENT. IT SEEMS TO ME WE ARE NOT THAT FAR APART.

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  • 01:29:17 PM

    MR. DOLE

    ARE NOT THAT FAR APART. WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. AND I'M CERTAINLY…

    ARE NOT THAT FAR APART. WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. AND I'M CERTAINLY PREPARED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER -- ANYONE ELSE -- IF THERE'S A PROBLEM. BUT JUST IN CASE WE CAN'T WORK IT OUT, THEN I HAVE FILED A CLOTURE PETITION BECAUSE I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE FINISH THIS BILL SO WE CAN TAKE UP THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL AND SOME OTHER THINGS AFTER THAT. BUT I'M PREPARED -- I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER IS PREPARED -- HOPEFULLY OUR COLLEAGUES ARE PREPARED. IT SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE ONE OR TWO CHOICES, EITHER TRY TO FINISH THIS TONIGHT WITH NO VOTES TOMORROW OR WE'LL BE HERE TONIGHT AND TOMORROW AND MAYBE SATURDAY. BUT THAT SUPERVISE TO THE -- OUR COLLEAGUES. I CAN'T BELIEVE ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS SO CRITICAL THEY CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT SUPPLEMENTAL OR THE APPROPRIATION BILLS START ARRIVING. THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE ON EACH SIDE IN GOOD FAITH. AND I THOUGHT WE WERE ALMOST THERE. BUT THEN WE WERE MAKING AN AGREEMENT -- AND THEN SOMEONE WANTED TO GO BACK AND OFFER AN AMENDMENT -- THEN WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT. EITHER WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT OR DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT. I CAN AGREE IF YOU LET ME HAVE 25 CHANCES TO IMPROVE WHAT I HAVE ALREADY AGREED UPON. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AN AGREEMENT. I HOPE WE CAN RESOLVE RETHING SO WHEN WE COME TO THE FLOOR I CAN PERSUADE THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK TO WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT WITH REFERENCE TO MEXICO. HE HASN'T DONE THAT YET. AND WE HAVE THE JORDAN AID IN THIS PACKAGE THAT I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT. SO I HOPE THERE'S -- THERE WILL BE SOME WAY TO BRING IT TOGETHER IN THE, SAY, NEXT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR. AND I WOULD ALSO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE THERE IS A REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE IN PROGRESS IN S. 207 WHICH WILL END AT HOPEFULLY 3:00. I WILL BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE FLOOR. I YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM SOUTH DAKOTA. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MINORITY LEADER. MR. DASCHLE: I SAID BEFORE THE VOTE IT WAS NOT OUR DESIRE TO HOLD UP THIS BILL. I WILL REITERATE MY SINCERE DESIRE TO WORK WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER IN FINDING AN AGREEMENT -- WHAT I HOPE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO PERHAPS IS TO MAYBE RUN TWO TRACKS, GET SOME DEBATE AND OFFER SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS. WE CAN

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  • 01:31:35 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MAJORITY LEADER IN FINDING AN AGREEMENT -- WHAT I HOPE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO…

    MAJORITY LEADER IN FINDING AN AGREEMENT -- WHAT I HOPE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO PERHAPS IS TO MAYBE RUN TWO TRACKS, GET SOME DEBATE AND OFFER SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS. WE CAN

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  • 01:31:38 PM

    MR. DASCHLE

    HOPE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO PERHAPS IS TO MAYBE RUN TWO TRACKS, GET SOME…

    HOPE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO PERHAPS IS TO MAYBE RUN TWO TRACKS, GET SOME DEBATE AND OFFER SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS. WE CAN MAYBE WORK OUT SOME SHORT-TIME AGREEMENTS. AND HAVE A GOOD DEBATE RATHER THAN JUST PUTTING THE SESSION IN A QUORUM CALL AND THEN WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY TO SEE IF WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS. I AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER, WE ARE CLOSE, AND PERHAPS WE CAN CONTINUE TO FIND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE MANY OF THE CONCERNS RAISED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. PERHAPS AT THE SAME TIME WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME SENATORS TO BE ABLE TO OFFER AMENDMENTS. IF WE CAN DO THAT PERHAPS THAT MIGHT EVEN ACCELERATE OUR PROGRESS. BUT I REITERATE AGAIN MY SINCERE DESIRE -- I THINK THE DESIRE ON THIS SIDE -- TO WORK IN EARNEST TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THIS BILL. MR. DOLE: IF THE SENATOR WILL YIELD, WE ARE EPREPARED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY ADDITIONAL DEBATE ON THAT, AT LEAST I'M FOR IT. NOT THAT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT ... MR. KENNEDY:

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  • 01:32:42 PM

    MR. DOLE

    THAT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT ... MR. KENNEDY: WE'RE QUITE PREPARED.…

    THAT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT ... MR. KENNEDY: WE'RE QUITE PREPARED. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ADDITIONAL TIME. WE WANTED TO DO THAT AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE CONVENIENCE. WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. WE'VE WANT ADD ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.

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  • 01:32:55 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    ADD ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.

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    MR. DASCHLE

    WHY DON'T WE AGREE --

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    MR. DOLE

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    MR. DASCHLE

    TIME EQUALLY DIVIDED AND VOTE AT 3:00. I THINK THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK…

    TIME EQUALLY DIVIDED AND VOTE AT 3:00. I THINK THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK WANTED TO VOTE ON SOME OTHER ISSUE, IS THAT RIGHT? MR.

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  • 01:34:32 PM

    MR. DOLE

    I THINK THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK WANTED TO VOTE ON SOME OTHER ISSUE, IS…

    I THINK THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK WANTED TO VOTE ON SOME OTHER ISSUE, IS THAT RIGHT?

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  • 01:35:08 PM

    MR. DASCHLE

    SENATOR MOYNIHAN?

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    MR. DOLE

    RESOLVE THAT MATTER VERY SOON. MR.

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    MR. DASCHLE

    SOON.

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    MR. DOLE

    A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. BYRD BYRD…

    A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. BYRD BYRD MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 01:36:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM WEST VIRGINIA.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WILL THE SENATOR YIELD? MAY WE HAVE ORDER IN…

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WILL THE SENATOR YIELD? MAY WE HAVE ORDER IN THE SENATE, PLEASE. THE SENATOR

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  • 01:36:40 PM

    MR. BYRD

    ORDER IN THE SENATE, PLEASE. THE SENATOR FROM WEST VIRGINIA. MR. BYRD: MR.…

    ORDER IN THE SENATE, PLEASE. THE SENATOR FROM WEST VIRGINIA. MR. BYRD: MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE CHAIR. MR.

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  • 01:36:46 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I THANK THE CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, TOMORROW WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THE FIRST…

    I THANK THE CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, TOMORROW WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THE FIRST 100 DAYS OF THE SO-CALLED REVOLUTION AND ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE MISNAMED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA."

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  • 01:36:56 PM

    MR. BYRD

    THE MISNAMED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." I CALL THE CONTRACT "MISNAMED,"…

    THE MISNAMED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." I CALL THE CONTRACT "MISNAMED," BECAUSE SO MANY SENATORS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE CLAIM NEVER TO HAVE SIGNED IT AND MANY AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA AS TO WHAT IT IS, MUCH LESS ANY IDEA OF ITS VARIOUS PROVISIONS. THE TERM "CONTRACT" IS USUALLY RESERVED FOR BINDING DOCUMENTS WHICH TWO OR MORE PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO AND HAVE SIGNED, BUT NOT SO WITH THIS SO-CALLED CONTRACT. -- "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." IT IS SIMPLY THE WISHLIST OF THE EXTREME FACTION OF ONE POLITICAL PARTY PACKAGEED TO SELL BETTER BY GIVING IT THE LEGITIMACY OF THE WORD "CONTRACT." IT IS CLEVER, ESSENTIALLY MEANINGLESS, AD-MAN LINGO PROBABLY CONJURED UP BY SOME POSTER. BUT, IN ANY EVENT, THE NATION WILL, NO DOUBT, AT LEAST PART OF THE NATION, BE GLUED TO THE TV SETS ON FRIDAY EVENING TO HEAR THE 100-DAY REPORT ON THE PROGRESS OF THE SO-CALLED CONTRACT, AS PROMISED. BUT EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS MADE-FOR-TV DRAMA WILL BE SOMEWHAT OF A FANTASY. FIRST, AS I'VE ALREADY INDICATED, THE CONTRACT IS CLEARLY A MADE-UP DEVICE. SECOND, THE SO-CALLED 100-DAY REPORT IS NOT OCCURRING AFTER 100 DAYS. FRIDAY, APRIL 7, WILL ONLY BE THE 94TH DAY SINCE THE CONVENING OF THE 104TH CONGRESS. THE REAL 100TH DAY WILL OCCUR ON THURSDAY, APRIL 13, SMACK IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE APRIL CONGRESSIONAL RECESS. SO WE WILL BE GETTING THE REPORT ON THE SO-CALLED CONTRACT, WHICH ISN'T REALLY A CONTRACT, ON THE SO-DESIGNATED 100TH DAY, WHICH IS REALLY ONLY DAY 94. BUT THEN OF WHAT IMPORT ARE MESSY DETAILS WHEN ONE IS BUSY MANUFACTURING NON-NEWS WHILE CONDUCTING A PSEUDOREVOLUTION? WE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY HEAR OF THE WILD SUCCESS OF THE SO-CALLED CONTRACT WHEN, IN FACT, ONLY TWO OF ITS PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN ENACTED INTO LAW, AND THESE TWO WERE RELATIVELY NONCONTROVERSIAL. IN REALITY, TWO OF THE CONTRACT'S MAJOR TENETS -- THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE TERM LIMITS PROPOSAL -- HAVE GONE DOWN TO TWEET WHILE A THIRD, A MISNAMED PROPOSAL BEING LOOSELY CALLED "LINE-ITEM VETO" WHICH, BY THE WAY, MAY BE FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IS STUCK IN A HOUSE-SENATE CONFERENCE FOR PERHAPS A LONG TIME. ONLY IN WASHINGTON WOULD THIS TYPE OF REPORT CARD BE TOUTED AS SUCCESSFUL. RATHER THAN A 100-DAY REPORT ON THE PROGRESS OF THE CONTRACT, THIS COMING PERFORMANCE MIGHT BE BETTER BILLED AS "A 94-DAY ALIBI FOR THE FAILURE OF AN EXTREMIST AGENDA." THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE SO-CALLED CONTRACT IS PRETTY MUCH OF A FLOP. JUST LIKE A BAD PLAY IN THE THEATRE, A BOMB IS A BOMB. YOU CAN PUNCH UP THE DANCE NUMBERS, SPICE UP THE DIAL LOG AND GUSSY UP THE COSTUMES A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN THE END, A FLAWED SCRIPT WILL FLOP. NOTHING ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH WILL SAVE IT. LIKEWISE, AT THE END OF THIS PARTICULARLY BAD SHOW, THIS SO-CALLED CONTRACT WILL ALSO BE JUDGE ADD FLOP AND A FAILURE. THAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE THE CONTRACT, AS A GIANT -- IS A GIANT GIMMICK COMPRISED OF OTHER LESSER GIMMICKS AND IT DOES NOT ADDRESS REAL PROBLEMS IN OUR NATION. IT MERELY PACKAGES SEVERAL OLD CANARDS WHICH ARE HOLDOVERS FROM THE LAST POPULAR REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION AND CALLS THEM "REFORM." IT RERUNS A LOT OF 1980'S POLITICAL BUMPER STICKER SLOGANS AND CALLS THEM A PROGRAM FOR CHANGE. THE REVOLUTION HAS COME TO WASHINGTON. REJOICE! ALL MAD-AS-HELL CITIZENS. IF THIS IS A REVOLUTION, IT MUST CERTAINLY BE CALLED THE RETREAD REVOLUTION. TERM LIMITS, BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT, LINE-ITEM VETO, ENHANCED RECIRCUMSTANCE SEPARATE ENROLLMENT, TAX CUTS -- THERE IS A TOUGH ONE; THERE IS A TOUGH ONE -- ALL OF THESE OLD BALD TIRES HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS. WHAT ABOUT THOSE TAX CUTS? MR. PRESIDENT, EARLIER THIS YEAR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED THE BALANCED BUDGET CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IN JUST TWO DAYS. TWO DAYS. A SIMILAR MEASURE FAILED TO PASS THE SENATE BY ONLY TWO VOTES. DURING THE DEBATE ON THESE PROPOSALS, REPUBLICANS IN GENERAL NEARLY DROWNED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A SEA OF RHETORIC PROCLAIMINGS THE NEED FOR SUCH AN AMENDMENT. DEFICIT REDUCTION, IT WAS CLAIMED, WAS THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE FACING CONGRESS TODAY. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO FUTURE GENERATIONS, ABOUT THE NEED FOR FISCAL DISCIPLINE, AND ABOUT THE 23450ED TO MAKE -- NEED TO MAKE TOUGH CHOISZ. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE SHARED SACRIFICE AMONG ALL FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION. EVERYONE WAS GOING TO DO HIS FAIR SHARE TO BEAT BACK THE ECONOMIC DRAGON OF DEFICIT SPENDING. FOR WEEKS WE HEARD LOFTY SPEECHES IN THIS POD DID I OVER THE NEED TO REDUCE DEFICITS. THAT WAS DURING THE DEBATE ON THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. NOW FOR THE HOUSE TO COME RIGHT ALONG BEHIND THAT DEBATE AND ENACT A HUGE TAX CUT FINANCED BY CUTS IN GENERAL SPENDING MAKES A MOCKERY OF ALL THE HOT AIR WE HAVE HEARD IN THIS BODY ABOUT DEFICIT REDUCTION. TO SUGGEST SQUANDERING OUR BUDGET SAVINGS ON TAX FAVORS FOR THE WEALTH-TO-DO AND FOR BIG CORPORATIONS IS JUST PLAIN CRAZY. FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO PASS A TAX CUT GIVEAWAY WHICH WILL COST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE $189 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS AND APPROXIMATELY $700 BILLION OVER 10 YEARS IS CLEARLY WALKING AWAY FROM ANY SERIOUS ATTEMPT TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. WE'LL HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE WINNERS AND THE LOSERS UNDER THE SO-CALLED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN THE COMING DAYS. BUT IN MY VIEW, THERE ARE NO WINNERS. WHEN WHAT SHOULD BE A SERIOUS ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE NATION'S PROBLEMS IS REPLACED WITH GLITZSY MEDIA SHOWS, OVERBLOWN RHETORIC, ONE-LINE SOLUTIONS, AND JUNK LEGISLATION ENACTED IN A RUSH TO MEET A PHONY DEADLINE AND HUGE TAX CUTS DESIGNED TO BENEFIT THE WELL-TO-DO. WE ALL LOSE. WE ALL LOSE. WE ALL LOSE WHEN THAT KIND OF SUPERFICIAL EXCUSE IS OFFERED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE REAL THING. THE TRUTH IS THAT BARNUN AND BAILEYS IS NOT THE ONLY SHOW IN TOWN THIS WEEK. ALL OF THIS TOUTING OF A REVOLUTION, PRAISING OF A NONEXISTING -- OF A NONEXISTENT "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LESS-ENTERTAINING VERSION OF THE SAME SORT OF CIRCUS. THIS CONTRACT IS A SHAM, AND IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE JUDGED A FAILURE BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER CHOOSE. THE SO-CALLED CONTRACT OVER THE REAL CONTRACT, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT WILL FAIL BECAUSE IT IS MOSTLY FORMED DEVOID OF SUBSTANCE, IT WILL FAIL BECAUSE IT OPTS OUST TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO REAL PROBLEMS AND INSTEAD TRIES TO RIG THE GAME AND REARRANGE OUR CHERISHED CHECKS AND BALANCES IN ORDER TO FURTHER A MISGUIDED POLITICAL AGENDA, AND IT WILL FAIL BECAUSE IT PLAYS ON PEOPLE'S FEARS AND ANGER INSTEAD OF NOURISHING THEIR HOPES AND THEIR DREAMS. IT WILL ALSO FAIL, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE OF THE GENIUS OF THE FRAMERS IN THEIR CRAFTING OF THE U.S. SENATE, DESIGNED TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, AND TALK THINGS THROUGH. IN EXTENDED GAIFMT FOR MY PART, I ONLY WISH THAT TOMORROW NIGHT, INSTEAD OF THE TOUGT OF SOME MADE-UP, FA KPWRAITED SO-CALLED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IN A PARTISAN ATTEMPT TO MANUFACTURE FERVOR FOR A POLITICAL AGENDA, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD HEAR A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF HOW THESE LAST 94 DAYS HAVE ONCE AGAIN DEMONSTRATED THE INNATE WISDOM, POURX AND GRANDEUR OF THE ONLY CONTRACT EVER AGREED TO BY THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND SWORN TO BY ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. AND THAT CONTRACT IS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLOOR. I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. MR. BYRD: I WITHHOLD THAT SUGGEST. MR. DASCHLE: WOULD THE SENATOR THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MINORITY LEADER. MR. DASCHLE: I HAVE CONSULTED WITH COLLEAGUES ON THOO SIDE. AND I

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  • 01:46:50 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CONSULTED WITH COLLEAGUES ON THOO SIDE. AND I THINK AS A RESULT OF OUR…

    CONSULTED WITH COLLEAGUES ON THOO SIDE. AND I THINK AS A RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN RECENT MINUTES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER LENGTH

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  • 01:46:53 PM

    MR. BYRD

    THINK AS A RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN RECENT MINUTES THAT WE WOULD BE…

    THINK AS A RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN RECENT MINUTES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER LENGTH

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    MR. DASCHLE

    RECENT MINUTES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME…

    RECENT MINUTES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER LENGTH

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS…

    THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER LENGTH

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    MR. DASCHLE

    A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER…

    A FAIRLY SHORT TIME AGREEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. WHATEVER LENGTH OF TIME THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I THINK, WOULD BE ALL THE TIME REQUIRED ON THIS SIDE. AND WE'D BE PREPARED TO VOTE. MR. KENNEDY: WELL, I THINK MAYBE I COULD --

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  • 01:47:26 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    PLANNED TO DO WHAT I'D INDICATED TO THE LEADER EARLIER THAT WE HAD TALKED…

    PLANNED TO DO WHAT I'D INDICATED TO THE LEADER EARLIER THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT -- TO JUST MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    INDICATED TO THE LEADER EARLIER THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT -- TO JUST…

    INDICATED TO THE LEADER EARLIER THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT -- TO JUST MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

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  • 01:47:32 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    THE MINORITY LEADER.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. MR. KENNEDY: MR.…

    PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. MR. KENNEDY: MR. PRESIDENT IN A FEW MOMENTS WE WILL CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT, NUMBER 448, AND JUST TO FAMILIARIZE AGAIN THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE, I'LL JUST READ IT.

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    MR. DASCHLE

    KENNEDY: MR. PRESIDENT IN A FEW MOMENTS WE WILL CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT,…

    KENNEDY: MR. PRESIDENT IN A FEW MOMENTS WE WILL CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT, NUMBER 448, AND JUST TO FAMILIARIZE AGAIN THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE, I'LL JUST READ IT.

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    MR. KENNEDY

    OF THE SENATE, I'LL JUST READ IT. IT IS A VERY SHORT AMENDMENT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I'LL JUST READ IT. IT IS A VERY SHORT AMENDMENT. IT SAYS, "THIS IS AN…

    I'LL JUST READ IT. IT IS A VERY SHORT AMENDMENT. IT SAYS, "THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, IT IS A SENSE OF THE SENATE THAT THE CONGRESS SHOULD ACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 TO PROVIDE FOR TAXATION OF ACCRUED GAINS AT THE TIME THAT A PERSON RELINQUISHS THEIR UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP."

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    MR. KENNEDY

    IT SAYS, "THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, IT IS A SENSE OF THE SENATE THAT THE…

    IT SAYS, "THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, IT IS A SENSE OF THE SENATE THAT THE CONGRESS SHOULD ACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 TO PROVIDE FOR TAXATION OF ACCRUED GAINS AT THE TIME THAT A PERSON RELINQUISHS THEIR UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP." AND IT IS THE SENSE OF THE NATIONAL THE AMENDMENT BE REFERRED TO SHOULD TAKE EFFECT AS IF ENACTED FEBRUARY 6, 1995." THIS IS WHAT IS DEFINED AS THE BILLIONAIRES' AMENDMENT. AND JUST TO REVIEW VERY QUICKLY, MR. PRESIDENT, AT THE TIME THAT THE SENATE CONSIDERED THE PROVISION TO PERMIT SELF-EMPLOYED TO DEDUCT 25% OF THEIR PREMIUMS FROM THEIR TAXES , WHEN WE DEBATE AND CONSIDERED THAT MEASURE, THERE WAS A PROVISION WHICH HAD BEEN INCLUDED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, CONSIDERED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, INCLUDED IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND WAS A PART OF THE LEGISLATION WHICH WE ACTUALLY PASSED THAT ADDRESSED A SERIOUS LOOPHOLE IN THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. AND THAT LOOPHOLE IS BASICALLY THE FOLLOWING: THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN ACCUMULATE MASSIVE SOURCES OF WEALTH, OWE THAT FAIR SHARE OF TAXES TO THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, EFFECTIVELY RENOUNCE THEIR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP, BECOME WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A BENEDICT ARNOLD, CHANGE THEIR RESIDENCY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY OF THE WORLD AND EFFECTIVELY AVOID AND EVADE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY IN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES INTO THE FEDERAL TREASURY. IT HAS BEEN ESTIMATED THAT THAT AMOUNT IS $3.6 BILLION. IF YOU TAKE AMERICAN CITIZENS AS WELL AS PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS. THE MEASURE THAT CAME OUT OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ONLY RELATED NOT TO THE PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS BUT JUST TO THE AMERICAN CITIZENS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD BE VERY HOPEFUL THAT WHEN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE GOES BACK TO REVISIT THIS ISSUE THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER WHAT THE INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THE PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS. IT ONLY AFFECTS ABOUT 25 AMERICANS A YEAR, BUT THE CUMULATIVE LOSS TO THE FEDERAL TREASURY IS $1.5 BILLION OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, OR $3.6 BILLION OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD. NOW, WHY THIS MATTER IS OF SUCH IMPORTANCE, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT WE NOW BEFORE THE SENATE ARE DEBATING WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN A RESCISSIONS LEGISLATION -- RESCISSIONS MEANING THAT THE CONGRESS HAS MADE A JUDGMENT ON THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE MADE A JUDGMENT WITH REGARDS TO AUTHORIZATION, WE HAVE MADE A JUDGMENT WITH REGARDS TO APPROPRIATIONS, WE HAVE -- THE PRESIDENT HAS SIGNED THOSE MEASURES INTO LAW, AND NOW THE CONTRACT IS REVISITING THAT COMMITMENT AND DECIDING TO CUT THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS. AND WHAT THE AMENDMENT THAT IS BEFORE THE SENATE -- THE BASIC AMENDMENT -- IS THE DASCHLE AMENDMENT. THAT WOULD RESTORE THE FUNDING FOR THE VOLUNTEER PERSONS PROGRAM CALLED THE AMERICORPS. THE DRUG OF THIS FREE SCHOOL PROGRAM WHICH DEALS WITH VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS AND ALSO TO TRY AND HELP AND ASSIST PARENTS AND SCHOOLTEACHERS AND SCHOOL BOARDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE IN THE SCHOOLS. CHAPTER 1 EDUCATION WHICH IS FOCUSED ON DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN, THE GOALS 2000. THIS WOULD RETURN SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR 1,300 SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARNTD COUNTRY TO DRI ABOUT REFORM, TO IMPROVE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT. THE WELL-KNOWN HEAD START PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO ZERO -- TO THREE OR FOUR YEARS OLD SO THAT THE EARLIER INTERVENTIONS COULD TAKE PLACE TO HELP CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY TODDLERS, ON THE BASIS OF THE CARNEGIE REPORT LAST YEAR. THE W.I.C. PROGRAM FOR THE WOMEN, INFANTS, AND CHILDREN TO MAKE SURE THEY WILL GET THE BEST IN TERMS OF NUTRITION. THE SCHOOL-TO-WORK PROGRAM WHICH IS BEING REVIEWED NOW BEFORE THE HUMAN RESOURCE COMMITTEE AND WILL BE THE BASIS FOR ONE-STOP SHOPPING ON YOUTH TRAINING. THE CHILD-CARE TRAINING WHICH IS SO USEFUL FOR WORKING FAMILIES TO ENSURE THAT THEIR CHILDREN WILL BE ADEQUATELY PREPARED AND ADEQUATELY CARED FOR. NOW, WE WERE DEBATING THIS MATTER HERE, WHICH COMES UP TO ABOUT $800 MILLION. THE OTHER PROGRAMS DEALING WITH ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND HOUSING WERE $700 MILLION. $1.3 BILLION. AND WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING DAYS DEBATING THT PRIORITY. AND I THINK BY AND LARGE MOST MEMBERS OF THE SENATE HAVE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THESE PROGRAMS, A HANDFUL HAVE NO. BUT BY AND LARGE, IT HAS BEEN REFLECTIVE OF A BIPARTISAN EFFORT ON THIS. THAT WOULD COME IN THESE AREAS ABOUT $800 BILLION. AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE STILL NOT PROVIDING THE $1.-- RECOVERING THE $1.4 BILLION OF DOLLARS FROM THOSE AMERICANS WHO ARE RENOUNCING THEIR CITIZENSHIP. ARE TURNING THE BETS ON AMERICA, WHO OTHERWISE IF THEY WEREN'T RENOUNCING THEIR CITIZENSHIP WOULD OWE THAT MONEY TO THE FEDERAL TREASURE TRRBRY. AND WE HAVE NOT RECAPTURED THAT MEN. IT WAS TROPD IN THE CONFERENCE. IT WAS DROPPED IN THE CONFERENCE ON THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION WHICH WE CONSIDERED A WEEK AGO. THAT AMENDMENT WHICH HAD BEEN ACCEPTED IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, ACCEPTED ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE, WENT TO THE CONFERENCE, CAME BACK TO THE CONFERENCE AND IT CAME BACK WITHOUT THAT AMENDMENT. ALL WE ARE SAYING TODAY WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT THE MEMBERSHIP HERE FEELS UNANIMOUSLY THAT THIS LOOPHOLE MUST AND SHOULD BE CLOSED AND WILL BE CLOSED AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY. AND THE DATE WILL BE MADE RETROACTIVE TO WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY INTRODUCED AND SUPPORTED BY PRESIDENT CLINTON. THIS IS AN AREA THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON HAD TAKEN A PERSONAL INTEREST IN. NOW, THE MAJORITY LEADER HAS INDICATED HE IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SAID HE'S GOING TO SUPPORT T THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, SENATOR MOYNIHAN, I BELIEVE AS WELL. SENATOR BRADLEY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. THE REASON THAT WE NEED THE VOTE, MR. PRESIDENT, IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR HAND IS STRENGTHENED WHEN THEY GO TO THE CONFERENCE, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A 100-0 VOTE. IT WILL BE A CLEAR INDICATION THAT THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES IS ON RECORD. WE BELIEVE DEEPLY THAT THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY OF BASICALLY RENOUNCING YOUR CITIZENSHIP AFTER YOU HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE AMERICAN FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM AND AVOIDING YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ALL OF OUR OTHER FELLOW AMERICANS FEEL, THAT THEY OUGHT TO HAVE THAT LOOPHOLE CLOSED. IF AN INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO LEAVE AMERICA, SO BE IT. AND WE HAVE SOME 875 EVERY YEAR THAT DO SO. IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE, FINE. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T LEAVE. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS THAT IF THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE, THAT THEY OUGHT TO PAY UP THEIR DUES PRIOR TO THE TIME OF THE LEAVING. AND THIS IS NOT -- MR. DORGAN: IF THE SENATOR WOULD YIELD FOR A QUESTION? MR. KENNEDY: YES. LET ME JUST FINISH WITH ONE THAUFMT THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT. THE CONCEPT ITSELF HAD BEEN INCLUDED IN THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, BUT IT WAS DRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT FAILED TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEED. THIS WILL. I'M

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  • 01:55:52 PM

    MR. DORGAN

    IT WAS DRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT FAILED TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEED. THIS…

    IT WAS DRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT FAILED TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEED. THIS WILL. I'M

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  • 01:55:54 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    THAT IT FAILED TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEED. THIS WILL. I'M GLAD TO YIELD.

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    MR. DORGAN

    LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS CHAMBER. AND I CAN'T CONCEIVE OF…

    LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS CHAMBER. AND I CAN'T CONCEIVE OF ANYONE IN THIS CHAMBER THAT WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSITION. AS I UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT TAX PROCEDURE -- AND I MIGHT ASK THE SENATOR TO CONFIRM THIS -- BUT WE HAVE A CIRCUMSTANCE IN OUR TAX CODE WHERE WE SAY TO SOMEONE, IF YOU HAVE ACCUMULATED SUBSTANTIAL ASSETS AND HAVE SUBSTANTIAL GAINS WITH THOSE ASSETS, AND HAVE BECOME VERY WEALTHY IN THIS COUNTRY AND THEN DECIDE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY, RENOUNCE YOUR CITIZENSHIP, WE GIVE YOU A SPECIAL DEAL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAX OUT ON THE WAY OUT WITH YOUR GAINS. I AM GOING TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE FLOOR LATER OON IN SESSION THAT SAYS CLOSE YOUR PLANT IN AMERICA AND MOVE IT OVERSEAS. WE'LL GIVE YOU A TAX BREAK FOR THAT AS WELL. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SENATOR IS OFFERING IS A SENSE OF THE SENATE SAYING LET'S CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE BY WHICH PEOPLE CAN RENOUNCE THEIR CITIZENSHIP, TAKE SUBSTANTIAL GAINS IN INCOMES, LEAVE THE COUNTRY, AND END UP PAYING NO TAXES. IS THAT THE --

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  • 01:57:17 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    AT THE TIME WHEN WE ARE AREA OF DEBATING PRIORITIES, WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT…

    AT THE TIME WHEN WE ARE AREA OF DEBATING PRIORITIES, WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT IS DEFICIT OR WHAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND SOME USE FOR THOSE RESOURCES IN EU7B VESTING IN CHILDREN AND EDUCATION. BUT EITHER WAY, WHAT WE ARE GOING ON RECORD AS SAYING IS THAT WE WON'T ABLE TO ADDRESS IT IN THIS PARTICULAR UNDERLYING BILL OTHER THAN TO GIVE A CLEAR OVERWHELMING, RESOUNDING SUPPORT TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT LOOPHOLE WILL BE CLOSED. MR. DOLE: THE SENATOR IS PREPARED TO VOTE AT, SAY, WHAT ? 30 P-:05? MR. KENNEDY: I WOULD BE GLAD TO VOTE AT 3:305. DOLE DOUGH I 1K TO VOTE AT 3:05.

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  • 01:58:08 PM

    MR. DOLE

    1K TO VOTE AT 3:05.

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    MR. KENNEDY

    I THINK THE BELIEVE -- DID I CALL UP AMENDMENT 448? THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    I THINK THE BELIEVE -- DID I CALL UP AMENDMENT 448? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE SET ASIDE ANT CLERK WILL REPORT THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:58:21 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE SET ASIDE ANT CLERK WILL…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE SET ASIDE ANT CLERK WILL REPORT THIS AMENDMENT.

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  • 01:58:25 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    CLERK WILL REPORT THIS AMENDMENT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 448 TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 420. AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IN…

    AMENDMENT NUMBER 448 TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 420. AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IN THE AMENDMENT, INSERT THE FOLLOWING: SECTION, SENSE OF THE SENATE REGARDING TAX AVOIDANCE. (A) IN

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  • 01:58:39 PM

    THE CLERK

    FOLLOWING: SECTION, SENSE OF THE SENATE REGARDING TAX AVOIDANCE. (A) IN…

    FOLLOWING: SECTION, SENSE OF THE SENATE REGARDING TAX AVOIDANCE. (A) IN GENERAL, IT IS THE SENSE OF THE SENATE THAT CONGRESS SHOULD ACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE -- MR. DOLE: I'D ASK THAT FURTHER READING -- YOU DON'T NEED THE AMENDMENT READ. MR. KENNEDY: NO I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. DOLE DOME SO DID WE GET THE YEAS AND NAIRS? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WE HAVE NOT. MR.

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  • 01:59:01 PM

    MR. DOLE

    SO DID WE GET THE YEAS AND NAIRS? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WE HAVE NOT. MR.…

    SO DID WE GET THE YEAS AND NAIRS? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WE HAVE NOT. MR. DOLE: DID YOU ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS?

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  • 01:59:06 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    DOLE: DID YOU ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS?

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE YEAS AND NAYS,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO BE A SUFFICIENT SECOND. THE YEAS AND NAYS WILL BE ORDERED.

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    MR. DOLE

    YEAS AND NAYS WILL BE ORDERED. 3:05. MR. KENNEDY: I WOULD BE GLAD TO…

    YEAS AND NAYS WILL BE ORDERED. 3:05. MR. KENNEDY: I WOULD BE GLAD TO EITHER YIELD THE FLOOR IF OTHERS WANT TO ADDRESS T I'LL JUST TAKE THE FEW MOMENTS HERE TO MENTION ONE OR TWO OTHER FACTS. AND

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  • 01:59:20 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    I WOULD BE GLAD TO EITHER YIELD THE FLOOR IF OTHERS WANT TO ADDRESS T I'LL…

    I WOULD BE GLAD TO EITHER YIELD THE FLOOR IF OTHERS WANT TO ADDRESS T I'LL JUST TAKE THE FEW MOMENTS HERE TO MENTION ONE OR TWO OTHER FACTS. AND

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  • 01:59:23 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IF OTHERS WANT TO ADDRESS T I'LL JUST TAKE THE FEW MOMENTS HERE TO MENTION…

    IF OTHERS WANT TO ADDRESS T I'LL JUST TAKE THE FEW MOMENTS HERE TO MENTION ONE OR TWO OTHER FACTS. AND THAT IS, THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS SOMEHOW -- IF THIS SOMEHOW RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES. AND I'LL

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  • 01:59:31 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS SOMEHOW -- IF THIS SOMEHOW RAISES…

    QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS SOMEHOW -- IF THIS SOMEHOW RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES. AND I'LL JUST MENTION, I'LL PUT IN MORE COMPLETE STATEMENTS. BUT I'LL MENTION THREE VERY THOUGHTFUL INTERNATIONAL LAW PROFESSORS -- ANDREI SELAYONFELD SAID THAT I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE PROVISION IN QUESTION WOULD VIOLATE ANY PROVISION OF THE UNITED STATES OR/APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW. AND DETLEV FOX OF THE HARVARD LAW SCHOOL SAYS, THE PROPOSED TAX DOES NOT AMOUNT TO SUCH A BURDEN UPON THE RIGHT OF REPATRIATION AS TO CONSTITUTE A SHRIGSE OF EITHER INTERNATIONAL LAW OR AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, MERELY EQALIZES OVER THE LONG-RUN CERTAIN TAX STRUCTURES. AND MICHAEL MATHESON OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT WHEN WE INQUIRED OF THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT -- ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THIS ISSUE AND WHETHER IT PROVIDED SOME RESTRICTIONS OR IMPEDIMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY SAID, "THIS PROVISION DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS CONCERNING AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO FREEDOM EMIGRATE FROM HIS OR HER COUNTRY OF CITIZEN CITIZENSHIP. THREES COMPARABLE TAXES TO THOSE WHICH U.S. CITIZENS OR PERMANENT RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO PAY WERE THEY IN THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME THEY DISPOSED OF THE ASSETS OR AT THEIR DEATH." SO, REALLY, THE OVERWHELMING INTERNATIONAL LAW OPINION ON THIS MEASURE IS THAT IT IN NO WAY INVOLVES THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF EXIT OR OF RENOUNCING ONE'S CITIZENSHIP. THEIR REVIEW OF THE VARIOUS INTERNATIONAL LAWYERS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS MEASURE, FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS -- AND, THAT IS, A RECOGNITION THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS, AMERICANS, HAVE ACCUMULATED THIS WEALTH THROUGH THE AMERICAN ECONOMIC SYSTEMS AND HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. AND ALL THAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD ACTUALLY DO IS RECOVER WHAT IS OWED TO THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, IS PART OF ONE'S RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITIZENSHIP. THERE ARE THOSE AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE LESS-DESIRABLE ASPECTS OF CITIZENSHIP BUT ARE DEEPLY PROUD OF THE FACT OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS IN PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. RESOURCES WHICH GO TO THE DEFENSE OF THIS COUNTRY AND TO THE PRIORITIES -- OTHER PRIORITIES OF OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. AND TAKE A SENSE OF PRIDE IN PARTICIPATING IN OUR POLITICAL PROCESS IN THIS WAY. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, WE'VE APPRECIATED THE STRONG SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED ON THIS MEASURE. BASICALLY THE HISTORY OF IT WAS THIS MATTER WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO. HE INDIVIDUALLY PURSUED IT WITH APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES THEMSELVES INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS THROUGH THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. IT WAS REALLY THROUGH HIS INDIVIDUAL OVERSIGHT THAT THE MATTER WAS SPOTTED AND WAS CORRECTED. WITH THE VOTE HERE TODAY, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS MEASURE, THAT IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE OF JUSTICE, THAT THE KIND OF ACTIVITY OF DENYING ONE'S CITIZENSHIP IS DEPLORABLE ENOUGH. IT'S A RIGHT THAT WE RESPECT, BUT IT'S DEPLORABLE ENOUGH. BUT THE IDEA THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO RENOUNCE THEIR CITIZENSHIP AND ACCEPT THE BENEFITS OF OUR FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM TO THE DISADVANTAGE OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. THAT, I BELIEVE, IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUFFICIENTLY COMPELLING THAT WE OUGHT TO GET A RESOUNDING VOTE ON. MR. PRESIDENT, -- I WOULD JUST TAKE ANOTHER MOMENT OF THE SENATE'S TIME. WE WERE REQUESTED EARLIER ABOUT THE REVENUE ESTIMATES. IT'S INTERESTING THAT BOTH THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE JOINT TAX COMMITTEE FIGURES IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WOULD BE RECOVERED FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THE PRESIDENT'S TREASURY ESTIMATED AT THE $1.5 BILLION. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AT $1.359 BILLION. AND I THINK IT'S REMARKABLY CLOSE THOSE ESTIMATED FIGURES. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SOMEWHAT LESS THAN THE PRESIDENT'S TREASURY FIGURES. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S EXPLAINABLE BECAUSE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE JUST HAS THE TAX FOR THE AMERICAN CITIZENS, DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PERMANENT RESIDENT ALIENS. IF WE INCLUDED THOSE, I THINK THE NUMBERS WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER THAN PRESIDENT CLINTON'S BUDGET. BUT, NONETHELESS, A FIGURE OF $1.5 BILLION THE. BUT NONETHELESS, THOSE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES ARE $3.6 BILLION OVER A TEN-YEAR PERIOD. THAT IS A VERY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES WHICH IF NOT COLLECTED EITHER ADD TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT OR WILL DENY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVESTED IN THE AREAS IN WHICH WE GIVE PRIORITIES. AND THE PRIORITIES THAT I THINK ARE OF FIRST ORDER WOULD BE THE INVESTMENTS IN CHILDREN IN THE HEAD START PROGRAMS AND THE CHAPTER 1 PROGRAMS AND THE CHILD CARE PROGRAMS AND THE TRAINING PROGRAMS AND THE STUDENT LOAN PROGRAMS AND THE SCHOOL-TO-WORK PROGRAMS, ALL PROGRAMS THAT REACH OUT TO THE YOUNGEST OF OUR CITIZENS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET, NUMBER ONE, A HEALTHY START, AN EVEN START, A FAIR START SO THAT THE -- THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR THEIR CHILDREN. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE VOTE ITSELF. AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. I YIELD THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 02:04:00 PM

    Senate Vote 127 - On the Cloture Motion (motion to invoke cloture re hatfield amdt no 420)

    In the nature of a substitute.

    Cloture Motion Rejected (56 - 44)
    Yea
    Nay

    Vote Details: Yea - 54
    Republican - 52
    Democratic - 2

    Vote Details: Nay - 44
    Democratic - 44

  • 02:16:07 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT. THE YEAS AND NAYS HAVE BEEN ORDERED. THE…

    QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT. THE YEAS AND NAYS HAVE BEEN ORDERED. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ARE THERE ANY OTHER SENATORS IN THE CHAMBER WISHING TO VOTE? IF NOT, THE AYES ARE 96.

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  • 02:29:42 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    VOTE? IF NOT, THE AYES ARE 96. THE NAYS ARE 4. THE KENNEDY AMENDMENT IS…

    VOTE? IF NOT, THE AYES ARE 96. THE NAYS ARE 4. THE KENNEDY AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. A SENATOR: MOVE TO LAY THAT ON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT, I OBSERVE THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM.

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  • 02:30:20 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. A…

    OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT, WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR JUST A MOMENT ON THAT, ON THE QUORUM? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN CLEARED WITH SENATOR COCHRAN AND SENATOR HATFIELD.

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  • 02:30:35 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR JUST A MOMENT ON THAT, ON THE QUORUM? I HAVE…

    WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR JUST A MOMENT ON THAT, ON THE QUORUM? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN CLEARED WITH SENATOR COCHRAN AND SENATOR HATFIELD. IT WILL TAKE 30 SECONDS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: JUST ONE MOMENT. I HAD SAID A CALL OF THE QUORUM. WOULD THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS , JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR, ASK TO LIFT THE CALL? A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA. MR. WELLSTONE:

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  • 02:31:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS , JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR, ASK TO LIFT THE…

    THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS , JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR, ASK TO LIFT THE CALL? A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA. MR. WELLSTONE: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. WELLSTONE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK CONSENT THAT I BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS.

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  • 02:31:52 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK CONSENT THAT I BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AS…

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK CONSENT THAT I BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS.

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  • 02:31:55 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    ABLE TO SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SPEAK IN MORNING BUSINESS;…

    AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SPEAK IN MORNING BUSINESS; IS THAT CORRECT? MR. WELLSTONE: MADAM PRESIDENT, THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI IS CORRECT.

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  • 02:32:10 PM

    MR. LOTT

    MISSISSIPPI IS CORRECT.

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    SENATE TODAY TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MUST MAKE TO END…

    SENATE TODAY TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MUST MAKE TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

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  • 02:32:22 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN AMERICA. BEGINNING TODAY, EVERY TIME A PERSON IN…

    END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN AMERICA. BEGINNING TODAY, EVERY TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA MADAM PRESIDENT, I -- MR.

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  • 02:32:25 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA MADAM PRESIDENT, I -- MR. BUMPERS:…

    TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA MADAM PRESIDENT, I -- MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA IF HE'D YIELD TO ME FOR ABOUT 30 TO 60 SECONDS TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN CLEARED ON BOTH SIDES.

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  • 02:32:41 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD BE PLEASED TO YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS…

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD BE PLEASED TO YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS WITHOUT LOSING MY RIGHT TO THE FLOOR.

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  • 02:32:54 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    AMENDMENTS TO THE DESK. MR. BUMPERS: I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE SET ASIDE.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 567. MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS…

    AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 567. MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED W. THE PRESIDING

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED W. THE…

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED W. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PART OF THE LAW LAST YEAR AND SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BILL THIS YEAR. IT

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  • 02:33:14 PM

    THE CLERK

    ORDERED. MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PART…

    ORDERED. MR. BUMPERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PART OF THE LAW LAST YEAR AND SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BILL THIS YEAR. IT

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  • 02:33:18 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    OF THE LAW LAST YEAR AND SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BILL THIS YEAR. IT ALLOWS…

    OF THE LAW LAST YEAR AND SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BILL THIS YEAR. IT ALLOWS UP TO $10 MILLION IN W.I.C. ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES TO BE USED FOR INCENTIVES FOR IMMUNIZING CHILDREN PRIOR TO THE AGE OF TWO YEARS. THIS HAS

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  • 02:33:25 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES TO BE USED FOR INCENTIVES FOR IMMUNIZING CHILDREN…

    ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES TO BE USED FOR INCENTIVES FOR IMMUNIZING CHILDREN PRIOR TO THE AGE OF TWO YEARS. THIS HAS BEEN CLEARED BY SENATOR COCHRAN, WHO'S CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, WHERE THIS RESIDES. AND WITH THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.

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  • 02:33:53 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS IS THE RANKING MEMBER OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.

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    MR. HATFIELD

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT'S AGREED TO.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA HAS THE FLOOR. MR. WELLSTONE: I THANK THE…

    THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA HAS THE FLOOR. MR. WELLSTONE: I THANK THE CHAIR. MADAM

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  • 02:34:11 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    WELLSTONE: I THANK THE CHAIR. MADAM PRESIDENT, AS I SAID, I COME TO THE --…

    WELLSTONE: I THANK THE CHAIR. MADAM PRESIDENT, AS I SAID, I COME TO THE -- BEFORE THE SENATE TODAY TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MUST MAKE TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

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  • 02:34:16 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BEFORE THE SENATE TODAY TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MUST MAKE TO…

    BEFORE THE SENATE TODAY TO UNDERSCORE THE COMMITMENT THAT WE MUST MAKE TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN AMERICA. BEGINNING TODAY, EVERY TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA DIES AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSER, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STORY BECOMES PART OF THE ""CONGRESSIONAL RECORD." "

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    BEGINNING TODAY, EVERY TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA DIES AT THE…

    BEGINNING TODAY, EVERY TIME A PERSON IN MY STATE OF MINNESOTA DIES AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSER, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STORY BECOMES PART OF THE ""CONGRESSIONAL RECORD." " I DO THIS FIRST, MADAM PRESIDENT, SO THAT WE ALL REMEMBER HOW DEEPLY THIS VIOLENCE SCARS OUR SOCIETY. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS A REAFFIRMATION OF OUR COMMITMENT TO ENDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. INDEED, MADAM PRESIDENT, IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO STOP THE VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN OUR WORKPLACES AND ON THE STREET, WE MUST BEGIN IN THE HOME. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M HERE TODAY WITH EVIDENCE THAT THE BRUTAL VIOLENCE CONTINUES. AND WHILE IT CONTINUES TO BE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT OR THE SINGLE MOST SIGNIFICANT CAUSE OF INJURY TO WOMEN, THIS VIOLENCE KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES OF AGE OR GENDER OR FACE OR RACE OR GEOGRAPHY OR INCOME OR EDUCATION. THE VIOLENCE GOES ON YEAR AFTER YEAR, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION. IN MINNESOTA IN 1994, AT LEAST 19 WOMEN AND 7 CHILDREN WERE KILLED BRUTALLY BY A SPOUSE OR FORMER PARTNER. WITH PAIN BUT ALSO WITH GREAT DETERMINATION, I ASK THAT WE HONOR THE MEMORY OF THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS. AND FROM MY HEART, I ASK THAT WE WORK TO END THE KIND OF VIOLENCE THAT HAS COST THESE INDIVIDUALS THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES MUCH: PAMELA BENNETT, 34 YEARS OF AGE, JANUARY 5, BIMAJI, MINNESOTA. PAMELA AND HER BOYFRIEND OF BIMAJI WERE TRAVELING TOGETHER IN OREGON WHEN THEY STOPPED AT A REST STOP. HOAGLAND REPORTED TO REPORTER THAT A HIT-AND-RUN DRIVER STRUCK PAMELA AT THE REST STOP AS SHE EXITED THE REST ROOM. SHE WAS DEAD UPON ARRIVAL AT THE HOSPITAL. WHEN POLICE FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF AN ACCIDENT, HOAGLAND TOLD AUTHORITIES THAT HE'D LIKE ABOUT THE ACCIDENT AND THAT SHE FELL BENEATH THEIR TRAVELLAIRL AS HE PULLED AWAY AWAY FROM THE REST STOP WITHOUT HER. HOAGLAND WAS CHARGED WITH FILING A FALSE POLICE FORCE, ASSAULT, AND HARASSMENT. IN LATE MARCH, HE PLEADED GUILTY TO MISDEMEANOR CHARGES IN HER DEATH. HE WAS SENTENCED TO FIVE MONTHS IN JAIL. PAMELA K.CURRY, 45. PAM LAFS FOUND STABBED TO DEATH IN HER HOME BY POLICE, JANUARY 14, ST. FRANCIS, MINNESOTA, WHO WERE CALLED BY HER HUSBAND, GARY CURRY. HE REPORTED FINDING HER IN THE MORNING AND AWAKING AND FINDING HER DEAD WITH A KNIFE STICKING OUT OF HIS CHEST. HE TOLD AUTHORITIES HE REMAINED IN BED FOR MOST OF THE DAY BEFORE CALLING 9-1-1 BECAUSE HE HOPED HE WOULD DIE. HE WAS CHARGED WITH SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. MARY SUE OBERDETERMINE, FEBRUARY 6, WATERTOWN, MINNESOTA. MARY SUE WAS FOUND SHOT TO DEATH IN HER HOME BY HER HUSBAND LAWRENCE. AUTHORITIES DISCOVERED THE CAR IN MINNEAPOLIS AND WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR ARRESTED TWO YOUTHS. THE YOUTHS -- MARY SUE'S SON, 14, AND A FRIEND, ALSO 14, WERE ARRESTED. THEY INDICATED THE SHOOTING STEMMED FROM MINOR DIFFERENCES ONE OF THEM HAD HAD WITH THE MOTHER. POLICE SAID THE SHOOTING APPEARED SOMEONE PLANNED, AS IF BY AMBUSH. THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF STRUGGLE. HER HUSBAND, MARY SUE WAS A VOLUNTEER FOR SCOUTS AT A LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. HER HUSBAND IS A WATERTOWN MAYOR, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. GERTRUDE BESTER, 86, FEBRUARY 19, GRANGER, MINNESOTA. AND, FINALLY, SOME MURDERS OF CHILDREN -- LIDIA HEALEY, FOUR YEARS OF AGE. POLICE OFFICERS FOUND LIDIA LYING ON HER LIVING ROOM FLOOR AFTER HER MOTHER, JUDY HEALEY, REPORTED TO POLICE THAT LIDIA WASN'T BREATHING. LIDIA WAS HOSPITALIZED FOR EIGHT DAYS BEFORE SHE DIED. HER INJURIES INCLUDED MASSIVE SWELLING OF THE BRAIN CAUSED BY SHAKING OR HITTING, LACK BLACK AND BLUE MARKS ON THE TOPS OF HER FEET, MARKS ON HER LEGS, BRUISES ON HER STOMACH AND CHEST, A BURNED HAND, BRUISES ON HER FACE, TWO LARGE WELTS ABOVE AN EYE AND ON HER CHEEK, AND A BURN OR CUT ON HER CHIN. LIDIA'S 11-YEAR-OLD BROTHER TOLD POLICE THAT HIS MOTHER BEAT LIDIA WITH A SPATULA AND WAS LEFT SITTING IN A BATHTUB OF COLD WATER. THE NEXT MORNING, NEITHER HE NOR HIS MOTHER WERE ABLE TO WAKE LIDIA. JUDY HEALEY WAS CHARGED WITH SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. GENEVA BRODEY, 15, MARCH 25, ST. PAUL. ALFRED ROBINSON, 51, THE LIVE-IN COMPANION OF HER MOTHER, SUMMONED AUTHORITIES TO HER HOME AND REPORTEDLY CONFESSED TO BEATING GENEVA. ROBINSON TOLD POLICE HE PUSHED GENEVA AND KICKED AND STOMPED ON HER AFTER SHE FELL DOWN OVER A DISPUTE OVER THE USE OF USING THE TELEPHONE. SHE WAS FOUND BREATHING AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO A MEDICAL CENTER WHERE SHE WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD. POLICE DESCRIBED THE ASSAULT AS A -- QUOTE -- "VERY VICIOUS ATTACK." ADRIANA WHITESIDE, AGE FOUR; MARCH 11, 1995, ST. PAUL. ADRIANA WAS FOUND STABBED INSIDE HER FATHER'S APARTMENT. SHE WAS STABED NEAR HER HEART WITH A POCKETKNIFE AND WAS RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE SHE DIED A SHORT TIME LATER. A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY, RANDY BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE HE IS, WHO WAS BABY-SITTING ADRIANA AND HER INFANT STEP-CENTER, WAS SEEN RUNNING THROUGH THE BUILDING SCREAMING, "CALL 9-1-1, I STABBED A BABY." HE WAS ARRESTED AT THE SCENE. HE ALLEGEDLY TOLD POLICE HE WAS PLANNING TO KILL SOMEONE WHEN HE FOUND HIMSELF ALONE WITH ADRIANA. RANDY BURGESS WAS CHARGED WITH INTENTIONAL SERKD-DEGREE MURDER. AND FINALLY, JESSICA TURNER, AGE EIGHT, MARCH 31, 1995, ST. PAUL. JESSICA DIED AFTER BEING STABBED IN THE CHEST AND TUMBLING DOWN A FLIGHT OF STARES IN HER PARENTS' APARTMENT. HER STEPFATHER, WHO HAD BEEN RELEASED FROM A CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY CENTER ON MARCH 24, WAS DRINKING WHEN HE ALLEGEDLY STABBED JESSICA AND HER MOTHER. HE WAS FOUND FIVE HOURS AFTER THE STABBING, ARRESTED, AND WAS CHARGED WITH SECOND-DEGREE MURDER AND ATTEMPTED SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. MADAM CHAIR, AS I WENT OVER THE NAMES OF THESE MINNESOTANS WHO DIED AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSER -- AND AS I SAY, I WANT THEIR STORY TO BECOME A PART OF THE "CONGRESSIONAL RECORD" BECAUSE I WANT US TO HONOR THEM, I WANT US TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO STOPPING THIS VIOLENCE. I REALIZE THAT I DID NOT READ THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF GERTRUDE BESTER, 86. GERTRUDE'S DAUGHTER WENT TO HER MOTHER'S HOUSE AFTER A SIGNAL HAD BEEN SOUNDED BY HER MEDICAL ALARM. AS SHE APPROACHED THE HOUSE, SHE SAW A PICKUP TRUCK SPEEDING AWAY AND FOUND HER MOTHER LYING ON HER BEDROOM FLOOR BEATEN TO DEATH. THE DAUGHTER RECOGNIZED THE TRUCK AS BELONGING TO GERTRUDE STEP-GREAT GRANDSON. HE WAS ARRESTED ABOUT AN HOUR LATER AFTER POLICE STOPPED HIM IN HIS PICKUP TRUCK AND NOTICED BLOODSTAINS ON HIS COAT AND HANDS. HE WAS CHARGED WITH DEVELOP COUNTS OF SECOND-DEGREE MURDER AND A COUNT OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO END THIS PRESENTATION WITH A QUOTE FROM MY WIFE, SHEILA. "WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THE VIOLENCE, WE WILL NOT IGNORE THE VIOLENCE, WE WILL NO LONGER SAY, 'IT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY.'" I URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES -- AND I HAVE TWO GREAT COLLEAGUES OUT HERE ON THE FLOOR WITH ME RIGHT NOW, THE SENATOR FROM OREGON, AND THE CHAIR, THE SENATOR FROM KANSAS -- TO WORK WITH THE SURVIVORS, THE ADVOCATES, THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND OUR OWN STATES AND TO SUPPORT FULL COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN ENDING THE VIOLENCE. AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE, TO WORK WITH PASSION AND CONVICTION, TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY FOR OUR WORK IN THE SENATE. WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE HOMES THE SAFEST PLACES THAT THEY CAN BE. I YIELD THE FLOOR. A SENATOR: A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.

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  • 02:46:01 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR FROM OREGON.

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    MR. HATFIELD

    ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AS THOUGH IN MORNING BUSINESS FOR EIGHT MINUTES.

  • 02:57:18 PM

    MR. LEVIN

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SO-CALLED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." I'VE GOT MY OWN VUDSE ON MANY OF THOSE…

    SO-CALLED "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA." I'VE GOT MY OWN VUDSE ON MANY OF THOSE BILLS, BUT TODAY I WOULD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS NOT CALLED IN THE SO-CALLED "CONTRACT." THE

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  • 02:57:31 PM

    MR. LEVIN

    MY OWN VUDSE ON MANY OF THOSE BILLS, BUT TODAY I WOULD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT…

    MY OWN VUDSE ON MANY OF THOSE BILLS, BUT TODAY I WOULD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS NOT CALLED IN THE SO-CALLED "CONTRACT." THE CONTRACT DOES NOT INCLUDE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM LEGISLATION. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE LOBBYING DISCLOSURE LEGISLATION. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE GIFT REFORM LEGISLATION. SO ON THREE OF THE BIGGEST POLITICAL REFORM ISSUES FACING THE CONGRESS TODAY, THE "CONTRACT WITH AMERICA" IS SILENT. THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS BEEN SILENT. WEE IN THE SENATE HAVE BEEN SILENT. WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED -- WE IN THE SENATE HAVE BEEN SIGH SILENT. WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS ABOUT THE WAY BUSINESS IS DONE IN WASHINGTON TODAY. WE WERE TOLD THE NEW LEADERSHIP WANTED SOME TIME, THEY WANTED A CHANCE TO GOVERN. ACTION WOULD COME IN A FEW MONTHS, WE WERE TOLD. WELL, IT'S NOW THREE MONTHS LATER AND THERE'S NO SIGN YET OF A SERIOUS EFFORT TO ENACT LOBBYING AND GIFT REFORM. NO HEARINGS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED, NO MARKUP HAS BEEN SCHEDULED, NO EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING A BILL TO THE SENATE FLOOR. IF ANYTHING, IT APPEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION IN THE AREA OF POLITICAL REFORM. SPECIAL INTERESTS SEEM TO BE MORE INFLUENTIAL THAN EVER. EVERY WEEK WE READ NEW STORIES ABOUT HOW ESSENTIAL-INTEREST LOBBYISTS HAVE WRITTEN BILLS OR BEEN INVITED INTO COMMITTEE ROOMS TO BRIEF CONGRESSIONAL STAFF ABOUT WHAT THOSE BILLS WOULD DO. REFORM OF FEDERAL LOBBYING LAWS AND OF THE CONGRESSIONAL GIFT RULES IS TOO IMPORTANT TO WAIT ANY LONGER, AND THIS SHOULDN'T ARE HARD. OUR LOBBYING REFORM AND GIFT REFORM BILLS EACH RECEIVED 95 VOTES IN THE SENATE IN THE LAST CONFERENCE, AND OFFICE ONLY WHEN A CONFERENCE REPORT GOT CAUGHT UP IN A LAST-MINUTE FILIBUSTER THAT WRP UNABLE TO FINALLY -- WE WERE UNABLE TO FINALLY PASS LOBBYING REGISTRATION AND GIFT REFORM. NOW, THESE HAVE BEEN CHARACTERIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AS INEFFECTIVE, INADEQUATE, AND UNENFORCEABLE. OUR CURRENT LAWS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FULL OF LOOPHOLES AND ARE SO WIDELY IGNORED, BREED DISRESPECT FOR THE LAW. THESE LOBBYING DISCLOSURE LAWS HAVE BEEN A SHAM AND A SHAMBLE SINCE THEY WERE FIRST ENACTED ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO. AT A TIME WHEN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS INCREASINGLY SKEPTICAL THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT REALLY BELONGS TO THEM, OUR LOBBYING REGISTRATION LAWS HAVE BECOME A JOKE, LEAVING MORE PROFESSIONAL LOBBYISTS UNREGISTERED THAN REGISTERED. OUR LOBBYING REFORM BILL WOULD ENSURE THAT WE FINALLY KNOW WHO IS BEING PAID HOW MUCH, BY WHOM AND TO LOBBY WHAT FEDERAL AGENCIES AND WHAT CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES AND ON WHAT ISSUES. THIS BILL WOULD CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES IN EXISTING LOBBYING REGISTRATION LAWS. IT WOULD COVER ALL PROFESSIONAL LOBBYISTS, WHETHER THEY'RE LAWYERS OR NONLAWYERS. LAWYERS ARE NOW EXEMPTED UNDER ONE OF THE MAJOR LOBBY REGISTRATION BILLS. THEY SHOULD NOT BE. WHETHER THE PROFESSIONAL LOBBYIST IS IN-HOUSE OR INDEPENDENT; WHETHER THEY LOBBY CONGRESS OR THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH; AND WHETHER THEIR CLIENTS ARE FOR-PROFIT OR NONPROFIT. OUR BILL WOULD STREAMLINE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY PAPERWORK AND WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE FIRST TIME EFFECTIVE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS BY AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE. THE CONGRESSIONAL GIFT RULES ARE ALSO FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED. THESE RULES CURRENTLY PERMIT MEMBERS AND STAFF TO ACCEPT UNLIMITED MEALS FROM LOBBYISTS OR ANYBODY ELSE. THEY PERMIT THE ACCEPTANCE OF FOOTBALL TICKETS, BASEBALL TICKETS, OPERATIC ETS, AND SO FORTH. THEY PERMIT MEMBERS AND STAFF TO TRAVEL TO PREDOMINANTLY RECREATIONAL EVENTS, SUCH AS CHARITABLE GOLF AND TENNIS TOURNAMENTS PAID FOR BY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. TO THE PUBLIC, THESE RULES ENFORCE AN IMAGE OF CONGRESS MORE CLOSELY TIED TO THE SPECIAL INTEREST THAN TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR CONGRESS. OUR BILL WOULD ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM AS WELL. UNDER THIS BILL, LOBBYISTS WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM PROVIDING MEALS, ENTERTAINMENT, TRAVEL, OR VIRTUALLY ANYTHING ELSE OF VALUE TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS OR TO CONGRESSIONAL STAFF. ACCEPTANCE OF GIFTS FROM OTHERS WOULD ALSO BE RESTRICTED SIGNIFICANTLY. TO GIVE JUST ONE EXAMPLE, OUR BILL WOULD PROHIBIT PRIVATE INTERESTS FROM PAYING FOR RECREATIONAL EXPENSES, SUCH AS GREEN FEES FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, WHETHER IN WASHINGTON OR IN THE COURSE OF TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON. IN FACT, PRIVATE INTERESTS WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM PAYING FOR CONGRESSIONAL TRAVEL TO ANY EVENT THE ACTIVITIES OF WHICH ARE SUBSTANTIALLY RECREATIONAL IN NATURE. IF THIS BILL PASSES, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES PAID FOR BY INTEREST GROUPS WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST. ENACTMENT OF OUR BILL WOULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE WAY BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED ON CAPITOL HILL. IT WOULD GET RID OF GIFTS AND BRING LOBBYING INTO THE HOPE OPEN, IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CHANGEING THE WAY OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS, WE I WILL WITH ENACT THIS LEGISLATION AND WE WILL DO IT SOON. I THANK THE CHAIR AND YIELD THE FLOOR AND NOTE THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON.

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  • 03:02:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    QUORUM BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR.…

    QUORUM BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. GORTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING

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  • 03:02:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.…

    I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING

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  • 03:02:52 PM

    MR. GORTON

    ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE…

    ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE SET ASIDE AN THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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  • 03:02:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AMENDMENTS WILL BE SET ASIDE AN THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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    MR. GORTON

    THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON MR. GORTON PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 569.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    NUMBERED 569.

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    THE CLERK

    FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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  • 03:03:19 PM

    MR. GORTON

    THIS IS A FIRST OF A SERIES OF FIVE MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE INTERIOR…

    THIS IS A FIRST OF A SERIES OF FIVE MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE INTERIOR SECTION OF THIS RESCISSION BILL, WHICH HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT IN EACH CASE WITH ALL.

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  • 03:03:25 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OF THIS RESCISSION BILL, WHICH HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT IN EACH CASE WITH ALL.

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    MR. GORTON

    IN EACH CASE WITH ALL. AFFECTED PARTIES, INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN AND…

    IN EACH CASE WITH ALL. AFFECTED PARTIES, INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBERS OF AUTHORIZING COMMITTEES WHERE THEY INCLUDE AUTHORIZING LANGUAGE. THIS FIRST AMENDMENT DELETES A PROPOSED $3 MILLION RESCISSION TO THE -- FROM THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FOR ENDANGERED -- FOR THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, AND IT IS PLACED AT THIS POINT BECAUSE SUCH A RESCISSION AND A CERTAIN SET OF RESTRICTIONS PROPOSED ON THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BY THE DISTINGUISHED JUNIOR SENATOR FROM TEXAS HAS NOW BEEN ACCEPTED AS A PART OF THAT CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. THIS WAS A PLACE HOLDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO ARE HAVE IT THE. THE AYES HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN…

    TO ARE HAVE IT THE. THE AYES HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK THAT IT BE IMMEDIATELY CONSIDERED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE AMENDMENT WILL BE SET ASIDE AND CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK:

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    MR. GORTON

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, MR.…

    WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, MR. GORTON, PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 570.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    THE CLERK

    SO ORDERED. MR. GORTON: THIS AMENDMENT MAKES A CORRECTION IN AN AMENDMENT…

    SO ORDERED. MR. GORTON: THIS AMENDMENT MAKES A CORRECTION IN AN AMENDMENT EARLIER PASSIONED BY THE BODY ON THE PART OF THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, MR. PRESSLER,

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    MR. GORTON

    AMENDMENT EARLIER PASSIONED BY THE BODY ON THE PART OF THE DISTINGUISHED…

    AMENDMENT EARLIER PASSIONED BY THE BODY ON THE PART OF THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, MR. PRESSLER, A CONFUSION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND MYSELF LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT WORDS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DAKOTA, MR. PRESSLER, A CONFUSION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND MYSELF LEFT OUT A…

    DAKOTA, MR. PRESSLER, A CONFUSION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND MYSELF LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT WORDS.

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    MR. GORTON

    BETWEEN HIMSELF AND MYSELF LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT WORDS. THIS…

    BETWEEN HIMSELF AND MYSELF LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT WORDS. THIS MAKES THAT CORRECTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? IF NOT, THOSE IN FAVOR WILL VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED SNOW. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND…

    HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    MR. GORTON

    NUMBERED 571. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT READING OF THE…

    NUMBERED 571. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE CLERK

    TECHNICAL CORRECTION WITH RESCISSION WITH RESPECT TO THE KENNEDY CENTER…

    TECHNICAL CORRECTION WITH RESCISSION WITH RESPECT TO THE KENNEDY CENTER HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RESCISSION BUT MAKES ITS MEANING CLEAR.

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    MR. GORTON

    HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RESCISSION BUT MAKES ITS…

    HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE RESCISSION BUT MAKES ITS MEANING CLEAR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. GORTON

    DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? IF NOT THOSE IN FAVOR WILL VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED…

    DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? IF NOT THOSE IN FAVOR WILL VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS MADE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS MADE…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS MADE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, MR. GORTON PROPOSES AN AMENDMENTED NUMBERED 5712. MR. GORTON: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING

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  • 03:06:00 PM

    Senate Vote 128 - On the Amendment (kennedy amdt no 448)

    To state the sense of the Senate regarding tax avoidance by certain former citizens of the United States.

    Amendment Agreed to (96 - 4)
    Yea

    Vote Details: Yea - 94
    Democratic - 46
    Republican - 48

    Vote Details: Nay - 4
    Republican - 4

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    MR. GORTON

    NUMBERED 5712. MR. GORTON: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT READING OF THE…

    NUMBERED 5712. MR. GORTON: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE CLERK

    AMENDMENT IS OFFERED ON BEHALF OF THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM ALASKA, MR.

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    MR. GORTON

    THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM ALASKA, MR. MURKOWSKI. IT RESCINDS $150,000 IN…

    THE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM ALASKA, MR. MURKOWSKI. IT RESCINDS $150,000 IN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE EVER AIRCRAFT SERVICES AND IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA. IT

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE EVER AIRCRAFT SERVICES AND IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE…

    FUNDS FOR THE OFFICE EVER AIRCRAFT SERVICES AND IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA. IT

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    MR. GORTON

    SERVICES AND IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA. IT IS A…

    SERVICES AND IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA. IT IS A RESCISSION IN ALASKA. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? IF NOT THOSE IN FAVOR WILL VOTE A, THOSE OPPOSED NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.

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    MR. GORTON

    AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 573. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT FURTHER…

    AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 573. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    THE CLERK

    MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM…

    MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM ALASKA MR. STEVENS, AND HAS TO DO WITH LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE TONGAS.

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    MR. GORTON

    FROM ALASKA MR. STEVENS, AND HAS TO DO WITH LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE RELATED…

    FROM ALASKA MR. STEVENS, AND HAS TO DO WITH LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE TONGAS. IT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY BOTH SIDES ON THE ENERGY COMMITMENT EE AS IT INCLUDES AUTHORIZING LANGUAGE.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO THE TONGAS. IT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY BOTH SIDES ON THE ENERGY…

    TO THE TONGAS. IT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY BOTH SIDES ON THE ENERGY COMMITMENT EE AS IT INCLUDES AUTHORIZING LANGUAGE.

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    MR. GORTON

    THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY BOTH SIDES ON THE ENERGY COMMITMENT EE AS IT…

    THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY BOTH SIDES ON THE ENERGY COMMITMENT EE AS IT INCLUDES AUTHORIZING LANGUAGE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? IF NOT THOSE IF FAVOR VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED NO.

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  • 03:07:46 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IF NOT THOSE IF FAVOR VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR…

    IF NOT THOSE IF FAVOR VOTE A THOSE OPPOSED NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THEY HAVE.

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  • 03:08:39 PM

    MR. GORTON

    LAY IT ON THE TABLE GORTE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MOTION IS AGREED TO.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. GORTON

    I SUGGEST THE ACTION ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK…

    I SUGGEST THE ACTION ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR: MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ROLL. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM…

    ROLL. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HELMS: I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED…

    HELMS: I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH.

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  • 03:10:53 PM

    MR. HELMS

    BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE HAS HAD THE HONOR OF WELCOME BEING…

    THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE HAS HAD THE HONOR OF WELCOME BEING THE DISTINGUISHED PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA, AND I WISH TO BRING TO THE FLOOR AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE IN ORDER NOR THE SENATE TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES IN RECESS TO GREET AND WELCOME THIS DISTINGUISHED LADY.

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    MR. HELMS

    HAD THE HONOR OF WELCOME BEING THE DISTINGUISHED PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA,…

    HAD THE HONOR OF WELCOME BEING THE DISTINGUISHED PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA, AND I WISH TO BRING TO THE FLOOR AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE IN ORDER NOR THE SENATE TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES IN RECESS TO GREET AND WELCOME THIS DISTINGUISHED LADY. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I THANK THE CHAIR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE STANDS IN RECESS FOR…

    I THANK THE CHAIR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE STANDS IN RECESS FOR c?c?sc?c?c? ?g?@OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT INDIA, SO I BELIEVE THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM INDIANA TOLD ME I INTRODUCED HER AS THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA.

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    MR. HELMS

    STANDS IN RECESS FOR c?c?sc?c?c? ?g?@OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT INDIA, SO I…

    STANDS IN RECESS FOR c?c?sc?c?c? ?g?@OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT INDIA, SO I BELIEVE THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM INDIANA TOLD ME I INTRODUCED HER AS THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    c?c?sc?c?c? ?g?@OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT INDIA, SO I BELIEVE THE…

    c?c?sc?c?c? ?g?@OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT INDIA, SO I BELIEVE THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM INDIANA TOLD ME I INTRODUCED HER AS THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA. IF I SAID THAT, I HAVE NEVER MADE A MORE EGREGIOUS ERROR AND I WOULD HOPE THE RECORD WOULD BE CHANGED TO SHOW THAT. I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 03:21:16 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. HELMS

    WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I WOULD ASK THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS…

    I WOULD ASK THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CONNECT CORRECT THAT WE ARE IN A PERIOD WHETHER AMENDMENTS CAN BE OFFERED, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY, HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE? IS THAT CORRECT?

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    MR. HELMS

    THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CONNECT CORRECT…

    THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CONNECT CORRECT THAT WE ARE IN A PERIOD WHETHER AMENDMENTS CAN BE OFFERED, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY, HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE? IS THAT CORRECT?

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  • 03:24:03 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WHETHER AMENDMENTS CAN BE OFFERED, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS I DO NOT…

    WHETHER AMENDMENTS CAN BE OFFERED, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY, HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE? IS THAT CORRECT?

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  • 03:24:07 PM

    MR. HELMS

    THAT IS CORRECT, ALTHOUGH IT DOGS TAKE CONSENT TO SET ASIDE PENDING…

    THAT IS CORRECT, ALTHOUGH IT DOGS TAKE CONSENT TO SET ASIDE PENDING AMENDMENTS BEFORE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TO BE ORDER CAN BE ORDERED.

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  • 03:24:23 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL AMENDMENTS NECESSARY BE HE IS SET ASIDE.…

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL AMENDMENTS NECESSARY BE HE IS SET ASIDE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED HEMS HLGS NOW MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A BIT OF A DILEMMA. I

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  • 03:24:33 PM

    MR. HELMS

    BIT OF A DILEMMA. I AM' -- I'VE BEEN IN FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE…

    BIT OF A DILEMMA. I AM' -- I'VE BEEN IN FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETINGS MOST OF THE DAY, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED ON ONE ISSUE WHICH IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME AND WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS INVASION OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MEETINGS MOST OF THE DAY, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED ON…

    MEETINGS MOST OF THE DAY, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED ON ONE ISSUE WHICH IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME AND WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE AN OUTRAGEOUS INVASION OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY. IT INVOLVES THE 1995 APPROPRIATIONS BILL CONTAINING $30 MILLION THAT WOULD BE SPENT TO BUILD HOUSING FOR RUSSIAN MILITARY OFFICERS. NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME ACTION TO DELETE PART OF THAT $30 MILLION, AND I WILL SPEAK MY OPINION ABOUT THIS, AND THEN I WILL CONSULT WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE WHO IS NOW ON THE FLOOR ABOUT WHETHER MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT. NOW THIS PROGRAM WAS BEGUN, AS I RECALL, IN 1993, BY PRESIDENT CLINTON, AND IN MY JUDGMENT, IT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE UNITED STATES CONCEIVES A BAD FOREIGN AID GIVE AWAY PROGRAM, SHROUDS IT IN DOUBLE TALK TO PROTECT IT, AND THEN SCRAMBLES TO SPEND THE MONEY WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS IN CONGRESS RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. IN APRIL OF 1993, PRESIDENT CLINTON MET AT A SUMMIT WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT BORIS YELTSIN IN VANCOUVER. AT THAT TIME, MR. CLINTON PROPOSED THAT THE UNITED STATES WOULD PAY -- MEANING THE TAX PAIRS OF THE UNITED STATES -- WOULD PAY TO CONSTRUCT HUSBANDING IN RUSSIA SO THAT RUSSIAN TROOPS OCCUPYING THE BALANCE PARTICULAR STATES COULD BE WITHDRAWN TO RUSSIA. NOW, LET ME DRAG THAT BY ONE MORE TIME. GOING TO SPEND AMERICAN TAXPAYERS' MONEY TO BUILD HUGHESING FOR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS SO THEY CAN COME HOME. NOW THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SUGGESTED THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT ON THE GROUNDS THAT NO HOUSING EXISTED IN RUSSIA FOR THESE SOLDIERS. THERE IS ONE PROBLEM WITH THAT LOGIC, AT LEAST ONE PROBLEM. INSTEAD OF BUILDING HOUSING IN RUSSIA, THE UNITED STATES IS NOW GIVING RUSSIAN SOLDIERS $25,000 APPEASE TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE AN EXISTING UNOCCUPIED HOUSE. NOW AIM E. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF HOME OWNERSHIP, AND I WISH THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION WOULD SUPPORT MORE HOME OWNERSHIP RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA. BUT THIS PROGRAM, MR. PRESIDENT, IS ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS. IN FACT, WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING IS THAT IT IS NOT A HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT THE HOUSING THAT THEY HAVE, BUT IT IS A CASH SENATOR DAMAGE. I THINK THAT QUESTION WILL BE OF GREAT INTEREST TO A LOT OF AMERICA'S TAXPAYERS. WELL, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, COME TO THINK OF IT, HAS A CASH SHORTAGE. THE FEDERAL DEBT AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AT CLOSING TIME WAS OVER $4 TRILLION AND 800 MILLION BUCKS. NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE BUDGET DEFICIT. WE HAVE TALKED AND TALKED AND TALKED ABOUT IT. FOR YEARS. AND FINALLY SOMETHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT, AND YOU HEAR ALL THE WEEPING AND WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH THAT YOU CANNOT DO IT TO THIS ONE, YOU ARE DOING THIS AND SO FORTH, SO I WANT TO SEE THESE POLITICAL FIGURES GO HOME AND TRY TO EXPLAIN THEIR VOTES AGAINST CUTTING THE FEDERAL DEFICIT. THE ADMINISTRATION ITSELF IS STRUGGLING TO FUND A REQUEST FOR 77,000 NEW AND IMPROVED HOUSING UNITS FOR AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT. BUT THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND IT. BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY FOUND IT FOR THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS. THE CONDITION IN WHICH MANY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN THE U.S. SERVICES, ITSELF ARMY NAVY MARINES, ALL THE REST, ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT. AND YET WE HAVE MONEY FOR $25,000 APPEASE FOR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS FOR HOUSING -- A PIECE, FOR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS. FINALLY A QUESTION THAT MUST BE ASKED, IS WHY DOES THE RUSSIAN MILITARY HAVE A SHORTAGE OF MONEY? THE ANSWER IS NO FURTHER AWAY THAN THE EVENING NEWS IN VARIOUS PLACES WHERE THE RUSSIANS ARE STILL PARTICIPATING IN MAYHEM. THIS PROGRAM TO BUILD HOUSING FOR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IS NOT ESSENTIAL, AND IT DID NOT GET THE RUSSIAN MILITARY OUT OF THE BALTIC STATES. THIS PROGRAM IS NOTHING BUT A GOLDEN PARA CHUTE FOR THE RUSSIAN MILITARY. NOT THE U.S. MILITARY. MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE THE UNITED STATES PLAYS REAL ESTATE AGENT TO THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, THEY HAVE TIME AND RESOURCES TO FIGHT IN OTHER PLAGUESS THEY OUGHT NOT TO BE FIGHTING. NOW, LET ME ASK THE DISTINGUISH CHAIRMAN. APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE IF ANY ACTION ON THIS OUTRAGEOUS ALLOCATION OF MONEY HAS BEEN TAKEN SINCE I LAST HEARD?

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  • 03:31:50 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

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    MR. HELMS

    ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    MR. HATFIELD

    PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA IN…

    PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA IN TERMS OF THE "PROVISION" IN THIS BILL THAT IS THE CONFERENCE REPORT THAT IS THE BILL ON MILITARY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE CONFERENCED YESTERDAY AND WE ARE NOW FACING THE CONFERENCE REPORT THAT HAS NOW PASSED THE HOUSE. A

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  • 03:38:37 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    NORTH CAROLINA IN TERMS OF THE "PROVISION" IN THIS BILL THAT IS THE…

    NORTH CAROLINA IN TERMS OF THE "PROVISION" IN THIS BILL THAT IS THE CONFERENCE REPORT THAT IS THE BILL ON MILITARY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE CONFERENCED YESTERDAY AND WE ARE NOW FACING THE CONFERENCE REPORT THAT HAS NOW PASSED THE HOUSE. A

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    MR. HATFIELD

    THAT IS THE BILL ON MILITARY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE CONFERENCED…

    THAT IS THE BILL ON MILITARY DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE CONFERENCED YESTERDAY AND WE ARE NOW FACING THE CONFERENCE REPORT THAT HAS NOW PASSED THE HOUSE. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT -- PRESIDENT BUSH WAS STILL PRESIDENT AND MADE A TRIP TO THE BALTICS HE FOUND THAT EVEN THOUGH THE SOVIET UNION HAD NOW CEASEED TO EXIST IN REALITY, THAT THE BALTIC GOVERNMENTS THAT HAD EMERGED OUT OF THAT FORMER IRON CURTAIN POWER BASE OF THE SOVIET UNION, THAT THOSE OCCUPATION TROOPS, PARTICULARLY THE OFFICERS WITHIN THE OCCUPATION OF THE BALTICS, WERE NOT GOING BACK TO RUSSIA, WERE NOT RETURNINGING HOME, WERE REMAINING IN THE BALTICS. AND THEY -- THEY WERE WEARING THEIR UNIFORMS. AND THAT GAVE THE BALTIC -- NEW BALTIC GOVERNMENTS GREAT CONCERN AS TO THE INTENTIONS, AND WHAT HAVE YOU. UPON A CAREFUL ANALYSIS, THEY FOUND THAT THEY -- THE RUSSIANS WERE NOT RETURNING HOME BECAUSE THEY HAD NO HOUSING TO RETURN TO, HOUSING MARKET HAD BEEN TOTALLY DEMOLISHED OVER THE YEARS. AND THEY FOUND BETTER HOUSING LIVING IN THE BALTICS. AND SO IN THE FIRST INITIAL STEP WE HAD WHAT WAS CALLED A "DEMONSTRATION PROJECT," I SUPPOSE WE WOULD HAVE AT HOME, A FIGURE OF ABOUT $9 MILLION. I'M RECALLING. I'M NOT PRECISE. BUT A SINGLE-DIGIT FIGURE THAT WAS APPROPRIATED AS A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT TO HELP THE RUSSIANS KNOW HOW TO PRODUCE HOUSING, NOT JUST FOR THOSE OFFICERS STILL IN THE BALTICS BUT JUST TO START A HOUSING INDUSTRY IN THAT COUNTRY THAT IT HAD NO HOUSING POLICY TO SPEAK OF. THEN FOLLOWING THAT THERE WAS A COMMITMENT MADE -- THAT NOW CARRIES OVER INTO THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION -- UPON CONFERENCE WES THE BALTIC REGIONS THAT AFTER THERE IS THAT SKILL THAT COMES OUT OF THAT DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, WE HAD TO FIND AN INCENTIVE TO GET THESE RUSSIAN OFFICERS OUT. SO A VOUCHER SYSTEM WAS PROVIDED, A $25,000 VOUCHER VALUE FOR HOUSING IN RUSSIA. AND THAT HAS THEN PROCEEDED TO THEN, AND WE NOW NOW, THERE ARE NO OFFICERS LEFT IN UNIFORM. SOME HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THE BALTICS THEIR HOME, TAKEN OFF THEIR UNIFORM. AND THEY ARE ROOTING IN AS CITIZENS, NOT AS OFFICERS. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED ABOUT THIS WHOLE POLICY TO BEGIN WITH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT WAS FELT TO BE A SOUND POLICY TO PURSUE TO ASSIST OUR NEW GOVERNMENT FRIENDS IN THE BALTICS. WE HAD IN EFFECT A DRAWDOWN FROM $100 MILLION APPROPRIATION TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS ABOUT $75 MILLION UNOBLIGATED FUNDS IN THE PIPELINE. NOW, THESE FIG USE ARE DIFFICULT. AND WE ARE NOT CERTAIN OF THESE FIGURES. WE CAN'T PRECISELY IDENTIFY THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT WE THINK IT'S AROUND $75 MILLION THERE. ARE SOME WHO SAY, WELL, THERE'S MORE OBLIGATED THAN $75 MILLION. THE HOUSE RESCINDED ALL $75 MILLION IF THEIR BILL. WE ON THE SENATE SIDE RESCINDED NONE. WE KEPT THE -- WHATEVER THAT FIGURE IS -- $75 MILLION IN THE BILL.

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  • 03:42:28 PM

    MR. HELMS

    THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, WHAT IS THE PRECISE FIGURE IN THAT PIPELINE? WE…

    THE QUESTION WAS RAISED, WHAT IS THE PRECISE FIGURE IN THAT PIPELINE? WE HAVE AID, STATE DEPARTMENT, OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE YET TO GIVE US WHAT WE CONSIDER A SATISFACTORY FIGURE THAT WE CAN SAY TO YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH. SO, THE

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  • 03:42:30 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    IS THE PRECISE FIGURE IN THAT PIPELINE? WE HAVE AID, STATE DEPARTMENT,…

    IS THE PRECISE FIGURE IN THAT PIPELINE? WE HAVE AID, STATE DEPARTMENT, OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE YET TO GIVE US WHAT WE CONSIDER A SATISFACTORY FIGURE THAT WE CAN SAY TO YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH. SO, THE HOUSE MADE A PROPOSAL TO THE SENATE THAT WE RESCIND $15 MILLION OUT OF THE $75 MILLION, LEAVING IN A SENSE, LEAVING A TOTAL OF $60 MILLION TO BE REVISITED AT A TIME WHEN WE CAN GET THAT EXACT FIGURE IN THE -- WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE $-- 1996 CYCLE, ASSUMEING THIS REPORT PASSES NOW AS A RESCISSION PACKAGE OR OTHER DISCUSSION MIGHT BE ENGENDERED OUT OF THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE OR SOMEPLACE ELSE. WE ARE NOT ON THE BY SIS OF THAT PROGRAM TO SAY THAT THAT'S IN PLACE TO THE LAST -- TO AN INDEFINITE FUTURE. MR. HELMS: I HOPE IT HAS NO FUTURE, SENATOR.

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    MR. HELMS

    THE POLICY ISSUE ITSELF. SO, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE --…

    THE POLICY ISSUE ITSELF. SO, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE -- AS CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, WE ARE DOING THE MINIMAL OF WHAT WE CAN LEGITIMATELY THINK ON THE BASIS OF THE FIGURES WE HAVE THAT WE CAN LEGITIMATELY DO AND MAINTAIN COMMITMENTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS OR ALREADY MADE UNTIL WE CAN GET A MORE EXACT TOTAL FIGURE OF UNOBLIGATED FUNDS. MR. HELMS:

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    MR. HATFIELD

    THE -- AS CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, WE ARE DOING THE…

    THE -- AS CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, WE ARE DOING THE MINIMAL OF WHAT WE CAN LEGITIMATELY THINK ON THE BASIS OF THE FIGURES WE HAVE THAT WE CAN LEGITIMATELY DO AND MAINTAIN COMMITMENTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS OR ALREADY MADE UNTIL WE CAN GET A MORE EXACT TOTAL FIGURE OF UNOBLIGATED FUNDS. MR. HELMS: BUT YOU WILL NOT PRESUME TO PERMIT ANY FURTHER COMMITMENTS? IS THAT CORRECT? MR. HATFIELD: WE HAVE NO BASIS UPON WHICH AT THIS TIME TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE FUTURE OF THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE EVERY PROGRAM TODAY IS UNDER SUCH CAREFUL REVIEW AND SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT, IN TERMS OF OUR PRIORITIES, AND OBVIOUSLY THESE RESCISSIONS ARE ONLY TO REFLECT UPON THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ANYWAY. MR. HELMS:

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  • 03:44:06 PM

    MR. HELMS

    FUTURE OF THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE EVERY PROGRAM TODAY IS UNDER SUCH CAREFUL…

    FUTURE OF THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE EVERY PROGRAM TODAY IS UNDER SUCH CAREFUL REVIEW AND SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT, IN TERMS OF OUR PRIORITIES, AND OBVIOUSLY THESE RESCISSIONS ARE ONLY TO REFLECT UPON THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ANYWAY. MR. HELMS:

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  • 03:44:11 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT, IN TERMS OF OUR PRIORITIES, AND…

    SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT, IN TERMS OF OUR PRIORITIES, AND OBVIOUSLY THESE RESCISSIONS ARE ONLY TO REFLECT UPON THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ANYWAY. MR. HELMS: I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF THE SENATOR. I WOULD HATE TO IS YOUR JOB AS CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME YOU HAVE $60 MILLION SOMEWHERE IN LIMBO, MIGHT BE IN THE PIPELINE, IT MAY HAVE BEEN COMMITTED WITHOUT OUR KNOWING. SO

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  • 03:44:31 PM

    MR. HELMS

    WELL, I THINK THE SITUATION IS SUCH THAT WHEN THE HOUSE RESCINDED THE…

    WELL, I THINK THE SITUATION IS SUCH THAT WHEN THE HOUSE RESCINDED THE TOTAL FIGURE OF UNOBLIGATED FUNDS --

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  • 03:45:02 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    MESSAGE TO THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES. AND I SUPPOSE IT SHOULD SEND A MESSAGE…

    MESSAGE TO THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES. AND I SUPPOSE IT SHOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE AS WELL, WHICH THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA CHAIRS -- OR IS THE CHAIRMAN.

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  • 03:45:09 PM

    MR. HELMS

    WELL, WHICH THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA CHAIRS -- OR IS THE CHAIRMAN.

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    MR. HATFIELD

    NORTH CAROLINA CHAIRS -- OR IS THE CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE THE WHOLE FOREIGN AID…

    NORTH CAROLINA CHAIRS -- OR IS THE CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE THE WHOLE FOREIGN AID BILL UNDER CONSTANT REVIEW. NOTHING IS A COMMITMENT VERY FAR DOWN THE ROAD. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IN THIS APPROPRIATION BILL REPORT THAT'S PENDING AS TO HOW TO DELINEATE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PURSUING AND EXECUTING A HUMANITARIAN PROGRAM AS A POLICE ACTION PROGRAM, AS IT RELATES TO THE DEFENSE OF THIS NATION? IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY WE SHOULD NOT BE CHARGING IN OFFSETS ANY OF THESE INCURSIONS INTO HAITI, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BACK TO THE D.O.D. APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET.

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  • 03:46:06 PM

    MR. HELMS

    ANY PART OF THIS CAN BE A STATEMENT OF FUTURE COMMITMENT AT ALL. MR. HELMS:

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    MR. HATFIELD

    BE A STATEMENT OF FUTURE COMMITMENT AT ALL. MR. HELMS: WELL, LET ME ASK…

    BE A STATEMENT OF FUTURE COMMITMENT AT ALL. MR. HELMS: WELL, LET ME ASK THE SENATOR, IF I MAY, WOULD HE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE COMMITTEE, APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE STAFF, TRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE $60 MILLION IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS UNVISITED BEFORE WE PASS THIS BILL. CAN

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  • 03:46:23 PM

    MR. HELMS

    THE $60 MILLION IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS UNVISITED BEFORE WE…

    THE $60 MILLION IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS UNVISITED BEFORE WE PASS THIS BILL. CAN SOMEBODY DO THAT?

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  • 03:46:44 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    SUMMARY, WE HAVE IN PRECISE FIGURES AT THIS MOMENT -- IMPRECISE FIGURES.…

    SUMMARY, WE HAVE IN PRECISE FIGURES AT THIS MOMENT -- IMPRECISE FIGURES. WE ARE DEPENDING ON A COUPLE AGENCIES FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THE FIGURES. WE DON'T KEEP THE BOOKS. MR. HELMS: I UNDERSTAND.

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  • 03:47:06 PM

    MR. HELMS

    BYGATIONS OR PIPELINE -- OBLIGATIONS OR PIPELINE. UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT…

    BYGATIONS OR PIPELINE -- OBLIGATIONS OR PIPELINE. UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT PRECISE FIGURE WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT PART OF THE QUESTION.

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  • 03:47:09 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    SO WILL THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, I ASSURE THE SENATOR. WELL, I…

    SO WILL THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, I ASSURE THE SENATOR. WELL, I THANK HIM.

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  • 03:47:47 PM

    MR. HELMS

    I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE…

    I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE -- WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE POLICY IN OUR COMMITTEE.

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  • 03:47:54 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    TRYING TO MAKE POLICY IN OUR COMMITTEE. WHEN THE POLICY COMMITTEE THAT YOU…

    TRYING TO MAKE POLICY IN OUR COMMITTEE. WHEN THE POLICY COMMITTEE THAT YOU CHAIR IS IN THAT POSITION. MR. HELMS: BUT THE STRONGEST POLICY MAKING PART OF ANY LEGISLATION ARE THE DOLLARS. AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY COUNTS WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FURNISH THOSE DOLLARS.

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  • 03:48:13 PM

    MR. HELMS

    TO FURNISH THOSE DOLLARS. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT THE SENATOR…

    TO FURNISH THOSE DOLLARS. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT THE SENATOR DOES NOT KNOW AND DOES NOT BELIEVE HIMSELF. WELL, I THANK THE CHAIR. AND I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR. I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. MR.

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  • 03:48:41 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. HATFIELD

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE…

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR.

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  • 03:52:26 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATE WILL COME TO THE REGULAR ORDER. THE REGULAR ORDER IS THE…

    SENATE WILL COME TO THE REGULAR ORDER. THE REGULAR ORDER IS THE MURKOWSKI-D'AMATO AMENDMENT TO THE D'AMATO AMENDMENT NUMBER 427.

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  • 03:58:51 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL…

    I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 04:00:46 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    SO ORDERED. WHO WILL HOLG I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE PENDING…

    SO ORDERED. WHO WILL HOLG I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE PENDING AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE SO THAT I CAN SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. THE

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  • 04:02:34 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WILL HOLG I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE PENDING AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE…

    WILL HOLG I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE PENDING AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE SO THAT I CAN SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. THE

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  • 04:02:37 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE SO THAT I CAN SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. THE…

    AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE SO THAT I CAN SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO ORDERED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO ORDERED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AN AMENDMENT TO THE DECK SKANDS THAT THE CLERK REPORT. THE PRESIDING…

    AN AMENDMENT TO THE DECK SKANDS THAT THE CLERK REPORT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK ALTHOUGH REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE

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  • 04:02:55 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    CLERK REPORT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK ALTHOUGH REPORT THE…

    CLERK REPORT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK ALTHOUGH REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE STPROR SOUTH CAROLINA, MR. HOLLINGS FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS, PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 574. ON PAGE 9 OF THE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT STRIKE LINE -- MR.

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  • 04:03:06 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT STRIKE LINE -- MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK…

    SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT STRIKE LINE -- MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING

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    THE CLERK

    CONSENT THAT FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    CONSENT THAT FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 04:03:19 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    WORK IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF STATE, JUSTICE, COMMERCE WHEREBY WE WANTED TO…

    WORK IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF STATE, JUSTICE, COMMERCE WHEREBY WE WANTED TO SUPPORT RESCISSION ASKED FOR BY AMOUNT OF AMOUNT BUT REDIRECTED TO LESS IMPORTANT, MR. PRESIDENT,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SUPPORT RESCISSION ASKED FOR BY AMOUNT OF AMOUNT BUT REDIRECTED TO LESS…

    SUPPORT RESCISSION ASKED FOR BY AMOUNT OF AMOUNT BUT REDIRECTED TO LESS IMPORTANT, MR. PRESIDENT,

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  • 04:03:25 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    LEGISLATION. THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME REASON FOR OPTIMISM THAT WE ARE IN…

    LEGISLATION. THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME REASON FOR OPTIMISM THAT WE ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES AND WILL BE COMPLETING ACTION ON THIS BILL YET THIS EVENING.

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  • 04:23:25 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    THE MINORITY FROM MISSISSIPPI.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    COULDN'T GET A TIME AGREEMENT NOW ON THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT. I UNDERSTAND…

    COULDN'T GET A TIME AGREEMENT NOW ON THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT. I UNDERSTAND SENATOR HOLLINGS HAS ALREADY HAD SOME TIME TO SPEAK AND HAS INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT.

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  • 04:29:00 PM

    MR. LOTT

    IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION --

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HERE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. A SENATOR: MR.…

    HERE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII.

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  • 04:29:42 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII.

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    MR. LOTT

    PRESIDENT, I -- IF IT'S IN ORDER, I'D LEAK TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IF IT'S IN ORDER, I'D LEAK TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT MR. PRESIDENT. THIS…

    IF IT'S IN ORDER, I'D LEAK TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT MR. PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT HAS -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WOULD THE SENATOR EXCUSE ME. THE

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  • 04:29:54 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT HAS -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WOULD THE SENATOR…

    PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT HAS -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WOULD THE SENATOR EXCUSE ME. THE

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  • 04:29:57 PM

    MR. AKAKA

    WOULD THE SENATOR EXCUSE ME. THE SENATE HAS JUST ENTERED INTO A TIME…

    WOULD THE SENATOR EXCUSE ME. THE SENATE HAS JUST ENTERED INTO A TIME AGREEMENT ON THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT. SO WHO WOULD YIELD TIME?

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  • 04:30:07 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THIS ASIDE JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII AND…

    THIS ASIDE JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII AND OTHERWISE FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA. BEFORE OUR TIME BEGINS TO RUN. LOT MAY

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  • 04:30:16 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    BEGINS TO RUN. LOT MAY I INQUIRE OF THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII. HE HAS AN…

    BEGINS TO RUN. LOT MAY I INQUIRE OF THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII. HE HAS AN AMENDMENT THEAD IAEA LIKE TO OFFER. IS THIS AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT? MR. AKAKA: THIS AMENDMENT HAS AGREEMENT ON BOTH SIDES. I'VE SPOKEN WITH CHAIRMAN SPECTER AND HE AGREES WITH THIS AMENDMENT. AND BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT I WANTED TO OFFER THE AMENDMENT. MR. LOTT: ARE YOU JUST GOING TO DO THIS -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS TAKING? MR.

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  • 04:30:38 PM

    MR. AKAKA

    ARE YOU JUST GOING TO DO THIS -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS…

    ARE YOU JUST GOING TO DO THIS -- HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS TAKING? MR. AKAKA: TWO MINUTES.

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  • 04:30:49 PM

    MR. LOTT

    HAWAII WOULD YIELD, I BELIEVE WE WILL WORK THAT AMENDMENT THROUGH IN THE…

    HAWAII WOULD YIELD, I BELIEVE WE WILL WORK THAT AMENDMENT THROUGH IN THE FINAL -- PACKAGE.

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  • 04:30:54 PM

    MR. AKAKA

    IN THE FINAL -- PACKAGE. SO IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER TO OFFER IT AT THIS…

    IN THE FINAL -- PACKAGE. SO IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER TO OFFER IT AT THIS TIME. BUT

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  • 04:30:56 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    SO IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER TO OFFER IT AT THIS TIME. BUT I UNDERSTAND…

    SO IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER TO OFFER IT AT THIS TIME. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM HAWAII WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE TO OUTLINE WHAT WE WILL ACCOMPLISH. BUT STRUCTURALLY AND PROCEDURALLY, WE WILL BE INCLUDING THAT IN THE FINAL MANAGERS' AMENDMENT WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE WHAT THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII WANTS TO ACHIEVE. MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, I'D ASK THE DISTINGUISHED ASSISTANT LEADER IF SENATOR SANTORUM AND I -- AND I CLEARED THIS WITH THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA -- MIGHT HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON A MEMORIAL TO JIMMY STEWART IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, WHICH IS COMING UP AFTER THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII FIN FINISHES HIS PRESENTATION. MR. HOLLINGS: AND WITHOUT THE TIME BEING ALLOCATED ON OUR UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT? MR. LOTT: I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE FINE. THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM PENS PENS -- AFTER THAT I WOULD -- I KNOW THE LEADER WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BEGIN TO FINISH THE DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO SO WE CAN BEGIN TO BRING THIS TO A CONCLUSION.

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  • 04:31:52 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    -- AFTER THAT I WOULD -- I KNOW THE LEADER WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BEGIN TO…

    -- AFTER THAT I WOULD -- I KNOW THE LEADER WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BEGIN TO FINISH THE DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO SO WE CAN BEGIN TO BRING THIS TO A CONCLUSION.

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  • 04:31:57 PM

    MR. LOTT

    TO FINISH THE DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN…

    TO FINISH THE DEBATE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO SO WE CAN BEGIN TO BRING THIS TO A CONCLUSION. BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES NOW WITH THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII AND THEN 10 MINUTES TO THE 0 TWO SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: SO WOULD THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI WISH TO PROPOSE A UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR THIS? MR. AKAKA: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 04:32:24 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM HAWAII TO DISCUSS THIS…

    HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM HAWAII TO DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE IN THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT AND 10 MINUTES FOR THE TWO SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA ON A SUBJECT RELATING TO JIMMY STEWART, I BELIEVE. THE

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  • 04:32:29 PM

    MR. AKAKA

    IN THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT AND 10 MINUTES FOR THE TWO SENATORS FROM…

    IN THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT AND 10 MINUTES FOR THE TWO SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA ON A SUBJECT RELATING TO JIMMY STEWART, I BELIEVE. THE

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  • 04:32:32 PM

    MR. LOTT

    SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA ON A SUBJECT RELATING TO JIMMY STEWART, I…

    SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA ON A SUBJECT RELATING TO JIMMY STEWART, I BELIEVE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII HAS TWO MINUTES.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FOR INCLUDING IT IN HIS MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN…

    FOR INCLUDING IT IN HIS MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. PRESIDENT, I SEND AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE IN HIS REPORT FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. AND

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    MR. AKAKA

    I SEND AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE IN HIS REPORT FOR IMMEDIATE…

    I SEND AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE IN HIS REPORT FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. AND IT WOULD RESTORE PARTIAL FUNDING FOR THE $7.9 MILLION RESCINDED FROM THE DEMONSTRATION PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. AND MY HOPE IS THIS AMENDMENT IS AGREEABLE AND THAT IT WILL RECEIVE THE SPOT OF MY -- RECEIVE THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES. THE B.B.P., MR. PRESIDENT, ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES HAS A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL RECORD OF EMPLOYING INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO INCREASE SELF-SUFFICIENCY FOR THE POOR. THE PROGRAM PROVIDES GRANTS TO COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCIES AND OTHER ELIGIBLE ENTITIES OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BLOCK GRANT. THE OBJECTIVES OF THE D.P.P. ARE TO DEVELOP TESTS AND EVALUATE NEW APPROACHES FOR OVERCOMING POVERTY AS WELL AS TO DISSEMINATE PROJECT RESULTS AND EVALUATION FINDINGS SO THAT SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS CAN BE REPRESENT INDICATED ELSEWHERE -- CAN BE REPLICATED ELSEWHERE. I ALSO WANT TO INFORM MY COLLEAGUES THAT THERE IS AGREEMENT TO OFFSETS OF THIS -- FOR THIS $3 MILLION AND THERE IS AGREEMENT BY THE STAFF OF BOTH SIDES IN APPROPRIATIONS. AND, THEREFORE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE THE PASSAGE OF MY AMENDMENT AND THANK THE CHAIRMAN SPECTER FOR INCLUDING IT IN HIS REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

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  • 04:34:42 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR SANTORUM AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO TAKE…

    SENATOR SANTORUM AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO TAKE TEN MINUTES AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE NEXT VOTE.

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  • 04:34:45 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. SPECTER: I THANK

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MYSELF SUFFICIENT TIME. I'M TRYING TO GET THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT IN…

    MYSELF SUFFICIENT TIME. I'M TRYING TO GET THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT IN ORDER TO BE HEARD, SENATOR LIEBERMAN. I

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  • 04:35:08 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    FROM CONNECTICUT IN ORDER TO BE HEARD, SENATOR LIEBERMAN. I

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE HEARD, SENATOR LIEBERMAN. I ASK CONSENT THAT THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA,…

    BE HEARD, SENATOR LIEBERMAN. I ASK CONSENT THAT THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA, SENATOR ROBB, BE ADDED AGS A -- AS A COSPONSOR. THE

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    THAT THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA, SENATOR ROBB, BE ADDED AGS A -- AS A…

    THAT THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA, SENATOR ROBB, BE ADDED AGS A -- AS A COSPONSOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTAL THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MOVEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TECHNOLOGY CAME ABOUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET CONVERSION FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT OVER INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THIS MOVEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TECHNOLOGY CAME ABOUT…

    THIS MOVEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TECHNOLOGY CAME ABOUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET CONVERSION FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT OVER INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

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  • 04:35:36 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    SAME TIME THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET CONVERSION FROM THE DEFENSE…

    SAME TIME THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET CONVERSION FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT OVER INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. IN FACT, WE ACTUALLY GOT THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MR. -- MRS. PROVAKA, WHO HAD BEEN WORKING WITH CRAIG FIELDS OVER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND DARPA. AND WE TRANSFERRED SOME THAT TUNED ITSELF MORE OR LESS TO CIVILIAN PURPOSES RATHER THAN MILITARY PURPOSES, SOME 44 PROGRAMS. IF THIS LITTLE AMENDMENT, SOME 27 MILLION, IS NOT OUT AS RESCINDED AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN THE BILL, THEN WHAT YOU HAVE LEFT IS ONLY $67 MILLION TO CARRY OUT SOME 44 CENTERS THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THERE IS A CUTOFF PERIOD ALSO IN THIS PROGRAM THAT I FORGOT TO EMPHASIZE OF SIX YEARS. THEY COME UP WITH AT LEAST 50% TO BEGIN WITH AND AN EVER DIMINISHING AMENDMENT BY THE FEDS AND EVER INCREASING AMOUNT BY THE STATE INVOLVED THAT SPONSORS THIS ALONG WITH THE INDUSTRY. AND THEY TAKE IT OVER IN THESE EXTENSION CENTERS. BY WAY OF COMPARISON, IT SHOULD BE SHOWN THAT THIS PAST YEAR WHERE WE HAD SOME 91 MILLION IN THESE CENTERS, AND NOW IF WE LOSE 24, WOULD END UP WITH ONLY 67, YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE EXTENSION OF THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. THAT'S NOT THE RESEARCH NOW OR THE COOPERATIVE EDUCATION PROGRAMS, BUT 439 MILLION TO NASA, IT'S 882 MILLION. IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, THERE'S ANOTHER $3,315,000,000. AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A VERY RESTRICTED PROGRAM ON A PEER REVIEW BASIS OF $91 MILLION. AND WE'RE TRYING TO RESTORE THAT BY USING UNOBLIGATED BALANCES WITHIN THE SAME N.I.S. BUDGET. SO, I WOULD ALSO EMPHASIZE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE YIELDING SO MUCH TIME AS IS NECESSARY TO THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT, I WILL READ JUST ONE SENTENCE FROM THE 1992 REPUBLICAN DEFENSE CONVERSION TASK FORCE. THIS IS A VERY OUTSTANDING GROUP OF SOME 14 REPUBLICAN SENATORS WITH THE FORMER THE SENATOR FROM KANSAS, NOW THE MAJORITY LEADER, AND MANY OTHERS HERE, WITHOUT READING OUT THEIR LANGUAGE. "THE TASK FORCE ENDORSES TWO PROGRAMS AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY AS IMPORTANT TO THE EFFORT TO PROMOTE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER TO ALLOW DEFENSE INDUSTRIES TO CONVERT TO CIVILIAN ACTIVITIES. THESE PROGRAMS ARE MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS AND THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM." SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS HAS BEEN BIPARTISAN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. IT'S WORKED VERY WELL. THERE'S NO PORK AND THERE'S NO INDUSTRIAL POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT PICKING A WINNER. I YIELD SO MUCH TIME TO THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT. AND I DO APPRECIATE HIS SUPPORT.

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  • 04:38:55 PM

    MR. LIEBERMAN

    CHAIR. THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA HAS BEEN WAY AHEAD ON THIS ONE. I

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AHEAD ON THIS ONE. I HATE TO SEE THE MANUFACTURING EXTENSION PROGRAM CUT…

    AHEAD ON THIS ONE. I HATE TO SEE THE MANUFACTURING EXTENSION PROGRAM CUT BACK, AND I GREATLY ADMIRE AND WANT TO SUPPORT HIS EFFORT TO RESTORE THESE FUNDS.

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  • 04:39:03 PM

    MR. LIEBERMAN

    THIS STARTED OUT BEING A BILL THAT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR DISASTER AID…

    THIS STARTED OUT BEING A BILL THAT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR DISASTER AID THAT'S NEEDED FOR CALIFORNIA AND PERHAPS IN OTHER AREAS. AND IT ALSO HAS RESCISSIONS. THESE ARE REDUCTIONS IN SPENDING FROM THIS YEAR'S FISCAL BUDGETS THROUGHOUT THE GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT, TRY TO PAY FOR THE DISASTER AID AND TO TRY TO BEGIN TO MOVE TOWARD CONTROLLING OUR RATE OF GROWTH. SO, THAT'S THE BASIC PREMISE THAT WE ARE STARTING FROM HERE. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE AMENDMENTS, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM ARE VERY JUSTIFIABLE, GOOD, SMALL AMTSZ OF MONEY, THEY JUST KEEP GROWING. FOR A WEEK NOW I'VE SEEN LISTS FLOATING AROUND HERE WITH ADDBACKS HERE, ADDBACKS THERE, MANY OF WHICH I LIKE. BUT WHEN YOU CHECK INTO IT, USUALLY IT'S AN ADDBACK ON TOP OF A VERY LARGE PROGRAM ALREADY. SECONDLY, THIS AMENDMENT, I UNDERSTAND, HAS FOUR COMPONENTS, AT LEAST PART OF WHICH THERE IS SUPPORT FOR AND AN AGREEMENT COULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT TO SUPPORT IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT SENATOR GRAMM FROM TEXAS, CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE, JUSTICE AND COMMERCE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, INDICATED HE COULD GO ALONG WITH SOME OF THESE. BUT IT ADDS BACK MONEY IN THESE AREAS: $26.5 MILLION IN THE MANUFACTURING EXTENSION PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. IT ADDS BACK $1.5 MILLION FROM SALARIES AND EXPENSES OF THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATION. IT ADDS BACK FUNDING OF $5 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE NOAA COASTAL OCEAN PROGRAM. AND IT ADDS BACK $14 MILLION IN THE CLIMATE AND GLOBAL CHANGE RESEARCH AREA. SOME OF THOSE SOUND PRETTY GOOD. BUT IN EACH CASE IT IS AN ADDBACK ON TOP OF MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY THERE. THE CENTRAL ISSUE HERE IS THAT FUNDING FOR THE MANUFACTURING EXTENSION PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, AND THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN GROWING SO RAPIDLY, FUNDING FOR THIS UNAUTHORIZED PROGRAM INCREASED DRAMATICALLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. FOR INSTANCE, THIS PROGRAM DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 1991. AND IN THAT YEAR THE FUNDING WAS $11.9 MILLION. AND THEN IT WENT TO $15.1 MILLION AND THEN TO $16.9 MILLION, AND THEN $30.3 MILLION. THEN IN THIS FISCAL YEAR IT JUMPED TO $90.6 MILLION, EVEN WITH THE RESCISSION, OR THE CUTS, PROPOSED IN THIS BILL YOU STILL WOULD HAVE HAD A DOUBLING OF THE PROGRAM. THE SENATOR NOTED THAT THERE'S STILL $67 MILLION, I BELIEVE, THAT WOULD BE LEFT. AND IT'S PROJECT THAT HAD THIS PROGRAM WOULD GO ON UP TO $146.6 MILLION AND KEEP GOING UP. THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT HAS GROWN LIKE TOP SI. NOW, MAYBE THE PLAN IS OVER THE YEARS TO BRING IT DOWN AND MAYBE BRING IN PRIVATE-SECTOR FUNDING. AND THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT HAS BEEN DOUBLING AND TRIPLING IN RECENT YEARS. SO, THAT'S WHY ON THIS SIDE, ON BEHALF OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, OUR URGING IS TO THE MEMBERS THAT THEY VOTE TO TABLE THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO IT HERE, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE TO ADD MONEY AND THEN NORPE ONE TO ADD MONEY. WE JUST THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONTROL THE RATE OF GROWTH AND NOT START A LONG PROCESS THAT WILL ADD BACK ADDITIONAL SPENDING TO THIS BILL. I YIELD THE FLOOR, MR. PRESIDENT.

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  • 04:50:20 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    WE'RE NOT ADDING $26 MILLION. IT WAS $24 MILLION. WE'RE

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IT WAS $24 MILLION. WE'RE ADDING BACK $7 MILLION ON THE CLIMATE AND GLOBAL…

    IT WAS $24 MILLION. WE'RE ADDING BACK $7 MILLION ON THE CLIMATE AND GLOBAL CHANGE RESEARCH. I WANTED

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  • 04:50:26 PM

    MR. LOTT

    THE CLIMATE AND GLOBAL CHANGE RESEARCH. I WANTED TO CORRECT THOSE FIGURES.…

    THE CLIMATE AND GLOBAL CHANGE RESEARCH. I WANTED TO CORRECT THOSE FIGURES. I

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  • 04:50:29 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    I ASK WE ALSO INCLUDE IN A LETTER FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON IN ENDORSEMENT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CONSENT THAT WE INCLUDE HERE A STATEMENT AS IF DELIVERED ON THE FLOOR. THE…

    CONSENT THAT WE INCLUDE HERE A STATEMENT AS IF DELIVERED ON THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING

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  • 04:52:27 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    DELIVERED ON THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO…

    DELIVERED ON THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. HOLLINGS: HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING, MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 04:52:32 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING, MR. PRESIDENT?

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    REMAINING, MR. PRESIDENT?

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I RETAIN THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. I YIELD THE TIME TO THE SENATOR FROM…

    I RETAIN THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. I YIELD THE TIME TO THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT.

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  • 04:52:42 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    THE TIME TO THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT.

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    MR. LIEBERMAN

    AND SIMPLY SAY THAT WE'RE AT A TIME WHEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME…

    AND SIMPLY SAY THAT WE'RE AT A TIME WHEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES, A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES. AND THERE

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  • 04:52:58 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES, A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES. AND…

    OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH CHOICES, A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES. AND THERE

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    MR. LIEBERMAN

    CHOICES, A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESCISSIONS IN…

    CHOICES, A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESCISSIONS IN THIS BILL TO CUT SPENDING, AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MOST OF THEM. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS ONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT I CITED. IT RETURNS $8 IN ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR EVERY $1 WE SPEND IN THIS PROGRAM. I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, AS I -- I KNOW WE ALL HEAR DIFFERENT MESSAGE FROM OUR PEOPLE BACK HOME. WHEN I GO BACK TO CONNECTICUT, THE ONE QUESTION THAT I THINK IS MOST ON PEOPLE'S MIND, AND IT RESONATES THROUGHOUT THE STATE -- I THINK THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE COUNTRY -- IS: CAN YOU DO SOMETHING IN WASHINGTON TO PROTECT MY JOB, TO KEEP MY JOB SECURE? AND IF I HAVE LOST A JOB -- AS TOO MANY PEOPLE IN MY STATE HAVE BECAUSE OF MANUFACTURING, DOWNSIZING, ALL THE REST -- WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP ME GET A NEW JOB? AND THE ONLY -- I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OLD INDUSTRIES IN OUR STATE WHICH HAVE DOWNSIZED, SOME HAVE CLOSED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EXPAND IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE ONLY ANSWER HERE IS TO GROW THE ECONOMY. AND THERE ARE TAX POLICIES THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THAT WILL ENCOURAGE CAPITAL FORMATION AND HELP MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO IS TO CREATE THESE KINDS OF MANUFACTURING EXTENSION TECHNOLOGY CENTERS THAT WILL REACH OUT TO THE SMALL- AND MID-SIZED COMPANIES AND HELP THEM GROW AND HELP THEM CREATE JOBS. THIS IS ONE WHERE I FEEL WE MAKE A MISTAKE BY CUTTING A SINGLE DOLLAR, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT GIVES A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR FUTURE SOME HOPE THAT THERE'S A NEW AND A GOOD JOB, A HIGH-PAYING JOB AROUND THE CORNER. I THANK THE CHAIR AND I THANK THE SENATOR AGAIN. MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 04:55:04 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    RED CENT. IT'S OFFSET WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET. BUT

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CENT. IT'S OFFSET WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET. BUT UNEXPANDED COFFIN STRUX…

    CENT. IT'S OFFSET WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET. BUT UNEXPANDED COFFIN STRUX FUNDS ARE SITTING THERE. I'M HERE

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  • 04:55:09 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS REMAINING.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WE'VE MADE OUR POINTS. WE'D BE PREPARED TO YIELD BACK OUR TIME AND GO TO A…

    WE'VE MADE OUR POINTS. WE'D BE PREPARED TO YIELD BACK OUR TIME AND GO TO A VOTE HERE, IF THE SENATOR WOULD LIKE TO. I

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  • 04:55:47 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    TIME AND GO TO A VOTE HERE, IF THE SENATOR WOULD LIKE TO. I

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR WOULD LIKE TO. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A TOTAL OF FIVE…

    SENATOR WOULD LIKE TO. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES OR SO LEFT. HOW

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  • 04:55:52 PM

    MR. LOTT

    THINK WE ONLY HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES OR SO LEFT. HOW…

    THINK WE ONLY HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES OR SO LEFT. HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI HAS 6 MINUTES REMAINING. THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA HAS 3 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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  • 04:56:09 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAS 3 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING.

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    GO ALONG WITH THE SUGGESTION OF THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM…

    GO ALONG WITH THE SUGGESTION OF THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI. WHAT HAPPENS IS TWO OR THREE SENATORS WANTED TO BE HEARD. WE ONLY GOT THREE MINUTES IF THEY GOT HERE. IS IT AT THE POINT NOW THAT YOU YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME AND MAKE THE MOTION, GET THE YEAS AND NAYS? IS THAT IT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: YES, SIR. MR.

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  • 05:05:50 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    VERY GOOD.

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    MR. HOLLINGS

    LOTT: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO TABLE THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT…

    LOTT: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO TABLE THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT AND ASK FORT YEAS AND NAYS.

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  • 05:07:09 PM

    MR. LOTT

    I MOVE TO TABLE THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT AND ASK FORT YEAS AND NAYS. AND I…

    I MOVE TO TABLE THE HOLLINGS AMENDMENT AND ASK FORT YEAS AND NAYS. AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

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  • 05:10:57 PM

    MR. HOLLINGS

    OF MY TIME. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ALL TIME HAS BEEN YIELDED BACK ON THE…

    OF MY TIME. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ALL TIME HAS BEEN YIELDED BACK ON THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:12:08 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BEEN YIELDED BACK ON THE AMENDMENT.

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    MR. LOTT

    AMENDMENT AND ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: SUFFER…

    AMENDMENT AND ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: SUFFER SUFFICIENT? THERE APPEARS TO BE.

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  • 05:15:41 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THERE APPEARS TO BE. THE QUESTION IS NOW ON THE MOTION TO TABLE. THE YEAS…

    THERE APPEARS TO BE. THE QUESTION IS NOW ON THE MOTION TO TABLE. THE YEAS AND NAYS HAVE BEEN ORDERED. AND THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ARE THERE ANY SENATORS IN THE CHAMBER DESIRING TO VOTE? IF NOT, THE YEAS ARE 43, THE NAYS ARE 57.

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  • 05:20:14 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DESIRING TO VOTE? IF NOT, THE YEAS ARE 43, THE NAYS ARE 57. AND THE MOTION…

    DESIRING TO VOTE? IF NOT, THE YEAS ARE 43, THE NAYS ARE 57. AND THE MOTION TO TABLE IS NOT AGREED TO. A SENATOR: MOVE TO LAY IT ON THE TABLE. OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE ON AMENDMENT 574? IF NOT, THE -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:21:17 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FURTHER DEBATE ON AMENDMENT 574? IF NOT, THE -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    FURTHER DEBATE ON AMENDMENT 574? IF NOT, THE -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:21:26 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    NOT, THE -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE…

    NOT, THE -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT.

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  • 05:21:45 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE AMENDMENT. THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DESK. AND COULD WE HAVE ORDER IN THE CHAMBER. THE

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    ORDER IN THE CHAMBER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER. UNDER THE -- WILL THE…

    PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER. UNDER THE -- WILL THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA SUSPEND. THE

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  • 05:22:41 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    UNDER THE -- WILL THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA SUSPEND. THE SENATE IS NOT IN…

    UNDER THE -- WILL THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA SUSPEND. THE SENATE IS NOT IN ORDER. THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER. MR. FORD:

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  • 05:22:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE IN ORDER. MR. FORD: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN EVEN HEAR…

    BE IN ORDER. MR. FORD: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN EVEN HEAR YOU.

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  • 05:23:01 PM

    MR. FORD

    UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, AT THIS TIME, THE SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA…

    UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, AT THIS TIME, THE SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA WERE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR 10 MINUTES.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA WERE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR 10 MINUTES. THE…

    THE SENATORS FROM PENNSYLVANIA WERE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR 10 MINUTES. THE MAJORITY LEADER.

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  • 05:23:29 PM

    MR. DOLE

    MINNESOTA? MR. DOLE: WOULD THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA JUST GIVE US ABOUT…

    MINNESOTA? MR. DOLE: WOULD THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA JUST GIVE US ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA.

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  • 05:23:42 PM

    MR. DOLE

    MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD BE PLEASED TO DO SO.

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED. THE SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. SANTORUM

    SPECTER, TO HONOR AN ACTOR WHO IS FROM A -- IS A NATIVE SON OF…

    SPECTER, TO HONOR AN ACTOR WHO IS FROM A -- IS A NATIVE SON OF PENNSYLVANIA, SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE A MUSEUM OPEN TO HIM NEXT MONTH.

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  • 05:24:22 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WHO IS FROM A -- IS A NATIVE SON OF PENNSYLVANIA, SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO…

    WHO IS FROM A -- IS A NATIVE SON OF PENNSYLVANIA, SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE A MUSEUM OPEN TO HIM NEXT MONTH.

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  • 05:24:25 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    NATIVE SON OF PENNSYLVANIA, SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE A MUSEUM OPEN TO…

    NATIVE SON OF PENNSYLVANIA, SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE A MUSEUM OPEN TO HIM NEXT MONTH.

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  • 05:24:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FOR A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR THIS TIME. AND THE SENATE WILL GIVE HIM…

    FOR A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR THIS TIME. AND THE SENATE WILL GIVE HIM ITS ATTENTION. THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SANTORUM: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SENATOR SPECTER AND I RISE TODAY TO HONOR A NATIVE SON OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, WHO IS GOING TO BE HONORED NEXT MONTH IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, THE BIRTHPLACE OF JIMMY STUART, WITH A MUSEUM THAT IS GOING TO OPEN RIGHT ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE BIRTHPLACE OF JIMMY STEWART.

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  • 05:25:02 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    NEXT MONTH IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, THE BIRTHPLACE OF JIMMY STUART, WITH…

    NEXT MONTH IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, THE BIRTHPLACE OF JIMMY STUART, WITH A MUSEUM THAT IS GOING TO OPEN RIGHT ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE BIRTHPLACE OF JIMMY STEWART. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING -- MANY OF US HAVE BEEN WORKING LONG AND HARD ON THIS MUSEUM AND TRYING TO GET A SUITABLE MUSEUM FOR A MAN LIKE JIMMY STEWART. MR. BURD: MR. PRESIDENT, WE CANNOT HEAR THE SENATOR OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE. CAN HE SPEAK LOUDER, PLEASE, OR CAN WE HAVE ORDER IN THE CHAMBER?

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  • 05:25:38 PM

    MR. BURD

    BE ORDER IN THE CHAMBER, PLEASE.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PENNSYLVANIA, WENT TO HIM AND ASKED TO DO A MUSEUM FOR HIM, THAT IT NOT BE…

    PENNSYLVANIA, WENT TO HIM AND ASKED TO DO A MUSEUM FOR HIM, THAT IT NOT BE ANYTHING FANCY; THAT HE WANTED IT TO BE VERY MODEST. HE DIDN'T

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  • 05:25:51 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RANK OF BRIGADIER GENERAL IN THE RESERVES. ON MAY 20TH IN INDIANA,…

    RANK OF BRIGADIER GENERAL IN THE RESERVES. ON MAY 20TH IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING JIMMY STEWART'S BIRTHDAY AND THEY'LL BE OPENING THE JIMMY STEWART MUSEUM. IN

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  • 05:28:44 PM

    MR. SANTORUM

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    MR. SPECTER

    OPENING OF A MUSEUM IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, ON MAY 20 OF THIS YEAR WHICH…

    OPENING OF A MUSEUM IN INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, ON MAY 20 OF THIS YEAR WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE 87TH BIRTHDAY OF A GREAT AMERICAN. JAMES STEWART

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  • 05:30:53 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, ON MAY 20 OF THIS YEAR WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE…

    INDIANA, PENNSYLVANIA, ON MAY 20 OF THIS YEAR WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE 87TH BIRTHDAY OF A GREAT AMERICAN. JAMES STEWART

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  • 05:30:56 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    YEAR WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE 87TH BIRTHDAY OF A GREAT AMERICAN. JAMES…

    YEAR WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE 87TH BIRTHDAY OF A GREAT AMERICAN. JAMES STEWART SPOKE IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES TO A SPELLBOUND CROWD, UNLIKE THOSE ASSEMBLED HERE TODAY WHO ARE STILL CONDUCTING SOME SUBSTANTIAL BUSINESS AS WE NEAR THE COMPLETION OF THIS IMPORTANT APPROPRIATIONS BILL. AND I WONDER, MR. PRESIDENT, IF WE MIGHT HAVE ORDER IN THE SENATE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WILL THE SENATOR SUSPEND WHILE WE GET ORDER ON THE FLOOR. COULD WE PLEASE HAVE ORDER IN THE SENATE. I THANK THE SENATORS. THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED. MR.

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  • 05:31:35 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATORS. THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED. MR. SPECTER:…

    THE SENATORS. THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS RECOGNIZED. MR. SPECTER: FOR SOME REASON, MR. PRESIDENT, MY PRESENTATION AND ORATORY WAS NOT QUITE AS SPELLBINDING AS ONE JAMES STEWART IN THE MOVIE, "MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON."

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  • 05:31:50 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON." I FEEL A PARTICULAR AFFINITY FOR JAMES STEWART…

    SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON." I FEEL A PARTICULAR AFFINITY FOR JAMES STEWART FOR MANY REASONS. IN ADDITION TO BEING A UNITED STATES SENATOR IN THE MOVIES, HE WAS ALSO THE LEAD ACTOR IN THE "PHILADELPHIA STORY," WHERE HE WON AN ACADEMY AWARD. HE IS A FROM PENNSYLVANIA, MALL TOWN INDIANA PENNSYLVANIA, WHICH HAS A VERY STRIKING STATUE IN HIS HONOR, AND IN OPENING THIS MUSEUM ON MAY 20, WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON APPROPRIATIONS BILL SO IT IS RELEVANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO FEDERAL FUNDING, AT LEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IN THIS MUSEUM WHICH THE PEOPLE ARE OFFERING AS A TRIBUTE TO JAMES STEWART. HE HAS HAD REALLY A REMARKABLE CAREER AS AN ACTOR, AND AS A GREAT PAYTRY OUGHT. ONE OF THE FIRST MOVIE STARS TO ENTER IN WORLD WAR II. HE ROSE FROM THE RANK OF PRIVATE TO THE RANK OF COLONEL. HE HAD 20 MISSIONS OVER FRANKFURT AND BERLIN. HE IS AN ALL AMERICAN HERO. HE REMINDS US OF THAT WHEN HE APPEARS FREQUENTLY ON TELEVISION AND THE RERUNS, "IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE", JAMES STEWART IS AN AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY AT ANY ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE HE BE HONORED IN HIS HOMETOWN ON MAY 20 OF THESE YEARS, AND THESE REMARKS PERHAPS WITH AN EDIT OR TWO TO REMOVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT PUTTING THE SENATE IN ORDER WILL BE ADDED IN A SCROLL ALONG WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE SENATOR SANTORUM AS WE PAY TRIBUTE TO THIS VERY DISTINGUISHED AMERICAN AND PEN SI IRANIAN. I THANK THE CHAIR AND YIELD THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA HAD BEEN RECOGNIZED.

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  • 05:35:02 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 05:35:14 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, IT IS SO ORDERED. MR. WELLSTONE: MR.…

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, IT IS SO ORDERED. MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SO ORDERED. MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE NOW INVOLVED IN…

    SO ORDERED. MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE NOW INVOLVED IN DISCUSSION.

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  • 05:35:44 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    WE ARE NOW INVOLVED IN DISCUSSION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    QUESTION BEFORE THE NATIONAL IS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER 441, IN THE ECKD…

    QUESTION BEFORE THE NATIONAL IS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER 441, IN THE ECKD DEGREE, TO EALT NUMBER 427.

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  • 05:35:53 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    IN THE ECKD DEGREE, TO EALT NUMBER 427. THE NOR WOULD NEED TO ASK…

    IN THE ECKD DEGREE, TO EALT NUMBER 427. THE NOR WOULD NEED TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT BE HE SET ASIDE. MR.

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  • 05:35:57 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    NEED TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT BE HE SET ASIDE. MR. WELLSTONE:…

    NEED TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT BE HE SET ASIDE. MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THAT AMENDMENT BE SET ASIDE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. WELLSTONE: I THANK THE CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, HORTLY I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME AGREEMENT ON AN AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE OFFERED TO THE SENATE. I THOUGHT

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  • 05:36:12 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    SOME AGREEMENT ON AN AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE OFFERED TO THE SENATE. I…

    SOME AGREEMENT ON AN AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE OFFERED TO THE SENATE. I THOUGHT WHAT I MIGHT DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THIS FOR OUR COLLEAGUES.

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  • 05:36:16 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATE. I THOUGHT WHAT I MIGHT DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME TO…

    SENATE. I THOUGHT WHAT I MIGHT DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THIS FOR OUR COLLEAGUES.

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THIS FOR OUR…

    DO IS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TIME TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THIS FOR OUR COLLEAGUES. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF THE MAJORITY LEADER AND THE BIPARTISAN SPIRIT OF THIS. MR. PRESIDENT, SENIOR CITIZENS FACE A CONFUSING WORLD OF RULES, CONDITIONS, EXCEPTIONS, LIMITATIONS AND EVEN OUTRIGHT SCAMS WHEN CHOOSING THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL HEALTH HOORNS AND GRAPPLING WITH THE MEDICARE SYSTEM. THE CONGRESS RECOGNIZED THE DIFFICULTY SENIORS FACE WHEN IT ESTABLISHED A PROGRAM, WHICH IS REALLY A WONDERFUL PROGRAM, IT IS SORT OF THE BEST EXAMPLE OF ALMOST SEED GRANT MONEY GOING ALONG WAY CALLED "THE HOORNS INFORMATION AND COUNSELING GRANT PROGRAM" IN 1990. THIS WAS A RECOGNITION BY THE CONGRESS THAT MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES NEED HELP -- NOT HELP THROUGH A WASHINGTON AGENCY -- BUT PERSON TO PERSON HELP AT A LOCAL LEVEL. ALL. A SENATOR: STATES HAVE ESTABLISHED AN HOORNS COUNSELING AND AN IS SINCE TANS PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF GRANT DOLLARS. AS A RESULT. THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES HELP FOR MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS PROGRAM A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A SMALL PROGRAM, AS I SAID IT IS BASICALLY SEED MONEY, THAT HAS PRODUCED BIG RESULTS. LET ME REPEAT THAT. A SMALL PROGRAM THAT PRODUCED BIG RESULTS. OVER 10,000 HAVE AS HAVE BEEN TRAINED THROUGH THE PROGRAM, AND OVER $14 MILLION -- OVER $14 MILLION IS SAVED EACH YEAR FOR PWHIRB RICE, JUST BY GOOD COUNSELING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS WHO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME. I REMEMBER BOTH MY MOM AND DAD HAD PARKINSON'S DISEASE, AND IN THE LATTER YEARS OF THEIR LIVES, AMONG THE DRUG ELSZ WAS JUST WADING THROUGH SOME OF THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY HAD TO DO. SOME OF THE FORLS THAT THEY FOUND WE BILLED RING. IN MY OWN STATE OF MINNESOTA, 300 VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN TRAINED, 3300 BENEFICIARIES WERE ASSISTED IN 1994 ALONE OF THE JUST IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, AND $867,000 WAS SAVED ON THEIR BEHALF. MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE THE CASE THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS RESTORE $5.5 MILLION THAT WAS A PART OF THE RESCISSION. AND NOW WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS WHAT THE OFFSET WILL BE. BUT THIS IS $5.5 MILLION ADDED ON TO WHAT I THINK IS NOW BEING SPENT WHICH IS ABOUT $5.5 MILLION WHICH GOES ALONG WAYS. AGAIN THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM NERD IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IT IS A PROGRAM THAT USES A MALL AMOUNT OF FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT GOES A LONG, LONG WAY. WE TRAIN ROW VOLUNTEERS IN EACH OF OUR TAITS, AND WOULD A TO PLY COLLEAGUES, THAT I KNOW THAT IF YOU JUST TALK TO PEOPLE IN YOUR STATE, ESPECIALLY VR CITIZENS, YOU WILL FIND THAT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS APPRECIATION FOR AGAIN THE INSURANCE INFORMATION COUNSELING AND AN IS TANT GRANT PROGRAM. I AM JUST TRYING TO RESTORE $5.5 MILLION. WE ARE NOW WORKING ON AN OFFSET. AS ON AS WE HAVE THAT OFFSET, AND I THINK IT IS SOON, IT IS MY HOPE THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WILL HAVE UNANIMOUS PORT. MR. PRESIDENT, I LEGISLATION WANT TO SAY TO COLLEAGUES THAT THE REASON THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AMENDMENT IS KIND OF -- AT LEAST FOR ME -- MAYBE ONE OF THE BETTER REASONS TO BE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, IS THIS JUST COMES DIRECTLY FROM A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. I MEAN PEOPLE ARE REALLY COMMITTED TO THIS PROGRAM. THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET $5.5 MILLION BACK IN HERE TO TROID COUNSELING ASSISTANCE TO SENIORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE TELL ME IT IS A HUGE HELP TO THEM. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PUBLIC POLICY THAT IS NOT OVERLY CENTRALIZED, MR. PRESIDENT, NOT OVERLY BUE ROW KRA ADVERTISED, HAPPENS BACK IN OUR LOCAL STATES AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES, SORT OF TAPS INTO THE BEST OF USING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS TO PROVIDE A LOT OF HELP TO SENIOR CITIZENS WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THESE FORMS, AND IT IS A WONDERFUL CONSUMER PROTECTION AND PREVENTION PROGRAM AGAINST SOME OF THE SCAMS THAT ALL TOO ON, OR AT LEAST UNFORTUNATELY HAPPEN TO SENIORS. SO, I WOULD SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM RIGHT NOW, AND I HOPE SOON WE WILL HAVE IT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 05:47:00 PM

    Senate Vote 129 - On the Motion to Table (motion to table hollings amdt no 574)

    To restore funding for certain National Aeronautics and Space Administration and Department of Commerce technology programs.

    Motion to Table Failed (43 - 57)
    Yea
    Nay

    Vote Details: Yea - 41
    Republican - 41

    Vote Details: Nay - 57
    Democratic - 46
    Republican - 11

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. GORTON

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE LAY ASIDE THE CURRENT AMENDMENT IF WE HAVE ONE, AND I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE LAY ASIDE THE…

    GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE LAY ASIDE THE CURRENT AMENDMENT IF WE HAVE ONE, AND I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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    MR. GORTON

    THE CURRENT AMENDMENT IF WE HAVE ONE, AND I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK…

    THE CURRENT AMENDMENT IF WE HAVE ONE, AND I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE

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  • 05:56:55 PM

    MR. GORTON

    IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE…

    IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON MR. GORTON PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT --

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HE READING BE DISPENSED WITH.

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    THE CLERK

    THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES FIVE ITEMS, ALL OF WHICH APPLY WITHIN THE GENERAL…

    THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES FIVE ITEMS, ALL OF WHICH APPLY WITHIN THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF THE INTERIOR COMMITTEE PORTIONS OF THIS BILL. THEY

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  • 05:57:15 PM

    MR. GORTON

    GENERAL DIRECTION OF THE INTERIOR COMMITTEE PORTIONS OF THIS BILL. THEY…

    GENERAL DIRECTION OF THE INTERIOR COMMITTEE PORTIONS OF THIS BILL. THEY ARE AT THE REQUEST OF INDIVIDUAL SENATORS AND HAVE OFFSETS. THEY

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  • 05:57:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ARE AT THE REQUEST OF INDIVIDUAL SENATORS AND HAVE OFFSETS. THEY

  • 05:57:21 PM

    MR. GORTON

    INDIVIDUAL SENATORS AND HAVE OFFSETS. THEY ARE FOR RELATIVELY SMALL…

    INDIVIDUAL SENATORS AND HAVE OFFSETS. THEY ARE FOR RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECTS, AND THEY HAVE OFFSETS. THEY HAVE BEEN CLEARED WITH THE MAJORITY AND THE MINORITY PARTIES. THEY INCLUDE ELEMENTS IN OHIO, ILLINOIS, ONE IN WHICH MISSOURI IS INTERESTED, AND CONNECTICUT.

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  • 05:58:10 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BUMPERS: HAS THE SENATOR SENT THE AMENDMENT TO THE DESK.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    THE DESK.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    THIS SIDE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE? THE QUESTION IS…

    THIS SIDE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE? THE QUESTION IS ON AGREEING TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 476, OFFERED BY THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO.

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  • 05:59:16 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MOVE TO RECONSIDER.

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    MR. GORTON

    LAY IT ON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. BUMPERS

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL…

    SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 06:01:14 PM

    MR. GORTON

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. I JUST WANT TO GIVE…

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUE A STATUS REPORT ON WHERE I THINK WE ARE.

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  • 06:01:30 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SURE.

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    MR. DOLE

    COMING BACK TOMORROW. BUT THEN YOU HAVE CLOTURE PETITION FILED AND THAT…

    COMING BACK TOMORROW. BUT THEN YOU HAVE CLOTURE PETITION FILED AND THAT RIPEENS SATURDAY. SO

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  • 06:05:15 PM

    MR. FORD

    PETITION FILED AND THAT RIPEENS SATURDAY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT…

    PETITION FILED AND THAT RIPEENS SATURDAY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER. AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE ARE THE NEW ENTRANTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE AMENDMENTS THAT BASICALLY WE HAVE BEEN AGREED TO. WE HAVE BEEN -- MR. DOLE: ON YOUR SIDE? MR. FORD: ON OUR SIDE. AND WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER TO GET THAT AGREEMENT. AND IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO BUDGET OUT HERE. WE

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  • 06:05:45 PM

    MR. DOLE

    WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO BUDGET OUT HERE. WE

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    MR. FORD

    WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO BUDGET OUT HERE. WE ARE TRYING THE GET…

    WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO BUDGET OUT HERE. WE ARE TRYING THE GET RESCISSIONS IN THIS YEAR'S ALLOWANCES. THAT CUTS OFF A LOT OF MONEY FOR PEOPLE WHO STARTED WORK. IT DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT. I WANTED TO ASSURE THE MAJORITY LEADER, WE'RE WORKING AND SWEATING TRY TO AGREE TO WHAT HE'S OFFERING HERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE HIM THERE WASN'T ANYONE ELSE HERE TO -- MR. DOLE: I'M NOT QUARRELING WITH THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY. I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI' -- SENATOR COCHRAN HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE WOMEN'S, INFANT AND CHILDREN PROGRAM, W.I.C., VERY CAREFULLY. HE'S VERY

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    MR. DOLE

    W.I.C., VERY CAREFULLY. HE'S VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT PROGRAM. SO WE'RE…

    W.I.C., VERY CAREFULLY. HE'S VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT PROGRAM. SO WE'RE ADDING BACK $35 MILLION WHICH HE SAYS WE CAN'T SPEND, JUST CAN'T SPEND IT. WE ADDED IT BACK. SO, I AIT WON'T BE SPENT SO IT IS NOT AN ADD-ON. I'M CERTAIN THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE THE SAME. ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS, I THINK WE'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO GETTING THIS DONE, BUT EXCEPT FOR THESE NEW ADD-BACKS THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF. THEN SOME OF THE SUBTRACTION THAT'S GOING ON THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESOLVE THOSE MATTERS VERY QUICKLY. ONE WAY THE DO IT QUICKLY IS HAVE MEMBERS GIVE US A TAME AGREEMENT. I WONDER IF WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO GET A TIME AGREEMENT ON THE BRYANT-BUMPERS AMENDMENT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOME OTHER AMENDMENTS, NOT JUST WAITING TIME WAITING FOR THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO PROCEED? IS THERE ANOTHER AMENDMENT WE CAN PROCEED TO? WHO ELSE HAS ONE? THE SENATOR FROM IOWA -- PARDON?

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  • 06:08:40 PM

    MR. BRYANT

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM QUORUM. THE PRESIDING…

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 06:09:09 PM

    MR. DOLE

    LEADER IS RECOGNIZED. MR. DOLE: I ASK THAT THE SQUARE CALL BE RESCINDED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE RESCINDED.

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    MR. DOLE

    THERE BE 30 MINUTES BE EQUALLY DIVIDED ON THE BRYANT-BUMPERS AMENDMENT. IN…

    THERE BE 30 MINUTES BE EQUALLY DIVIDED ON THE BRYANT-BUMPERS AMENDMENT. IN FACT,

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  • 06:09:18 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    30 MINUTES BE EQUALLY DIVIDED ON THE BRYANT-BUMPERS AMENDMENT. IN FACT,…

    30 MINUTES BE EQUALLY DIVIDED ON THE BRYANT-BUMPERS AMENDMENT. IN FACT, WE'RE PREPARED THE GIVE SENATOR BRYANT -- GIVE THEM 20 AND WE'LL TAKE 10.

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  • 06:09:22 PM

    MR. DOLE

    WE'RE PREPARED THE GIVE SENATOR BRYANT -- GIVE THEM 20 AND WE'LL TAKE 10.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THEM 20 AND WE'LL TAKE 10. WE'LL GIVE 20 MINUTES TO THE PROPONENT OF THE…

    THEM 20 AND WE'LL TAKE 10. WE'LL GIVE 20 MINUTES TO THE PROPONENT OF THE AMENDMENT AND WE'LL TAKE TEN ON THIS SIDE. MR. BRYAN:

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  • 06:09:28 PM

    MR. DOLE

    MINUTES TO THE PROPONENT OF THE AMENDMENT AND WE'LL TAKE TEN ON THIS SIDE.…

    MINUTES TO THE PROPONENT OF THE AMENDMENT AND WE'LL TAKE TEN ON THIS SIDE. MR. BRYAN: I THANK THE MAJORITY LEADER. THAT IS AGREEABLE.

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  • 06:09:45 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT, I OFFER AMENDMENT NUMBER 461, WHICH IS AT THE…

    A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT, I OFFER AMENDMENT NUMBER 461, WHICH IS AT THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    461, WHICH IS AT THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE…

    461, WHICH IS AT THE DESK AND ASK FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENT IS SET ASIDE AND THE CLERK WILL REPORT. THE

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  • 06:09:52 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING…

    CONSIDERATION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENT IS SET ASIDE AND THE CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, MR. BRYAN, FOR MR. BUMPERS

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  • 06:10:03 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. BRYAN, FOR MR. BUMPERS AND MR. BRYAN, PROPOSES AMENDMENT NUMBER 461 TO…

    MR. BRYAN, FOR MR. BUMPERS AND MR. BRYAN, PROPOSES AMENDMENT NUMBER 461 TO AMENDMENT NUMBER -- MR. BRYAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING

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  • 06:10:12 PM

    THE CLERK

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED…

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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  • 06:10:21 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, IF I MIGHT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAS THE FLOOR. MR. BRYAN: I WILL INQUIRE OF THE CHAIR, WILL THAT BE ON OUR…

    HAS THE FLOOR. MR. BRYAN: I WILL INQUIRE OF THE CHAIR, WILL THAT BE ON OUR TIME? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: YES.

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  • 06:10:32 PM

    MRS. BOXER

    THE CHAIR, WILL THAT BE ON OUR TIME? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: YES. THE…

    THE CHAIR, WILL THAT BE ON OUR TIME? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: YES. THE SENATOR IS CORRECT. MRS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OFFICER: YES. THE SENATOR IS CORRECT. MRS. BOXER: THE AGREEMENT IS THAT…

    OFFICER: YES. THE SENATOR IS CORRECT. MRS. BOXER: THE AGREEMENT IS THAT THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND THE SENATOR FROM WHEREVER WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU

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  • 06:10:41 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND THE SENATOR FROM…

    THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND THE SENATOR FROM WHEREVER WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WHEREVER WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT.…

    WHEREVER WOULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. BRYAN: DOES THAT SATISFY THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA? MRS.

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  • 06:10:50 PM

    MRS. BOXER

    MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. BRYAN: DOES THAT SATISFY THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA?…

    MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. BRYAN: DOES THAT SATISFY THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA? MRS. BOXER: YES, IT DOES. MR. BRYAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I YIELD MYSELF SEVEN MINUTES. MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS YEAR RALSTON PURINA WILL SPEND $13 MILLION TO ADVERTISE ITS CHECKS BRAN CEREAL AND BROWN CORPORATION HAS BUDGETED $20 MILLION AND LAST YEAR MCDONALD'S SPENT $7.7 MILLION

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    MR. BRYAN

    SEVEN MINUTES. MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS YEAR RALSTON PURINA WILL SPEND $13…

    SEVEN MINUTES. MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS YEAR RALSTON PURINA WILL SPEND $13 MILLION TO ADVERTISE ITS CHECKS BRAN CEREAL AND BROWN CORPORATION HAS BUDGETED $20 MILLION AND LAST YEAR MCDONALD'S SPENT $7.7 MILLION

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  • 06:11:06 PM

    MRS. BOXER

    SPEND $13 MILLION TO ADVERTISE ITS CHECKS BRAN CEREAL AND BROWN…

    SPEND $13 MILLION TO ADVERTISE ITS CHECKS BRAN CEREAL AND BROWN CORPORATION HAS BUDGETED $20 MILLION AND LAST YEAR MCDONALD'S SPENT $7.7 MILLION

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  • 06:11:08 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    THE SENATE WILL COME TO ORDER.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    COMMON BESIDES EACH HAVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ADVERTISING BUDGETS? AND THE…

    COMMON BESIDES EACH HAVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ADVERTISING BUDGETS? AND THE ANSWER THAT THEY ARE ALL RECIPIENTS OF TAX-PAYER FUNDS THROUGH WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM.

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  • 06:11:39 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    THEY ARE ALL RECIPIENTS OF TAX-PAYER FUNDS THROUGH WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE…

    THEY ARE ALL RECIPIENTS OF TAX-PAYER FUNDS THROUGH WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM WAS STARTED IN 1986 TO PROMOTE AMERICAN AGRICULTURAL PRODUCE. NOW LET ME SAY A WORD BY WAY OF BACKGROUND. THE AMENDMENT WHICH THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS AND I HAVE THAT IS PRESENTLY BEFORE THE FLOOR WOULD ZERO OUT FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR THE APPROPRIATORS CAME UP WITH $85 MILLION FOR THIS MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM AND THE LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE ACTING ON THIS EVENING, THEY HAVE INCREASED THE APPROPRIATION LEVEL TO $110 MILLION. IN MY VIEW, THIS PROGRAM WHICH I'M GOING TO DESCRIBE VERY BRIEFLY IN A MOMENT IS CORPORATE WELFARE. WE HAVE DEBATED IN THIS SESSION OF THE CONGRESS WHERE WE CAN MAKE CUTS ON THE BUDGET. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WOMEN, INFANTS AND CHILDREN, SCHOOL FLEW TRIGS PROGRAMS, AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE ON THE TABLE EXCEPT THE SACRED COW OF AMERICAN AGRICULTURE, THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM. VERY BRIEFLY, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE HISTORY OF THIS PROGRAM DATES BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS. CURRENTLY WE'RE SPENDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $3.5 BILLION IN AMERICA ON EXPORT PROMOTION, $3.5 BILLION OF THAT SUM $2.2 BILLION IS SET ASIDE SPECIFICALLY FOR AGRICULTURE PROMOTION. NOW, TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT, 63% OF ALL THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING FOR EXPORT PROMOTION IN AMERICA IS DEVOTED TO AGRICULTURE. AGRICULTURE REPRESENTS ABOUT 10% OF THE FOREIGN EXPORTS FROM AMERICA. SO IT IS MY VIEW THAT THAT IS A DISPROPORTIONATE, INDEFENSIBLE AMOUNT. BUT LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT. WE CAN DEBATE THE MERITS OR DEMERITS OF SPENDING $2 BILLION IN AGRICULTURE PROMOTION. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM. THIS IS A PROGRAM WHICH, AS I HAVE SAID, IS CORPORATE WELFARE. IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF FOOD STAMPS FOR THE LARGEST CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA. THE WAY THIS PROGRAM WORKS IS THAT ADVERTISING BUDGETS OF SOME OF THE LARGE CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA ARE SUPPLEMENTED BY A TAXPAYER MONEYS. CON AGRA, A GOOD COMPANY, MAKING HOUSEHOLD NAMES, CHUNKY, PRIDE, SWIFT, PETER PAN, ARMOR, SWISS MIFFED. OKAY. SINCE 1986 THIS COMPANY HAS RECEIVED TAXPAYER DOLLARS OF $826 MILLION. THIS COMPANY BY 1994 FINANCIAL DATA $462 MILLION, THE NET PROFITS, THE ADVERTISING BUDGET IS $200 MILLION, THE C.E.O. RECEIVES COMPENSATION OF $1.229 MILLION ANNUALLY. HOW IN GOD'S WORLD DO WE JUSTIFY MARKS DAM PRESIDENT, SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SUPPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM? THIS IS A COMPANY THAT IS LARGE, SUCCESSFUL AND THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY HAND THEIR OWN ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION BUDGET. JACK DANIELS, A PRODUCT THAT IS FAMILIAR TO MANY OF US. $2.41 MILLION IS WHAT THEY RECEIVED THROUGH THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM AND ITS IMMEDIATE PREDECESSOR, T.E.A., TARGET EXPORT ASSISTANCE. THE 1994 FINANCIAL DATA: NET PROFITS OF $146 MILLION, AND ADVERTISING BUDGET OF $74 MILLION, C.E.O. COMPENSATION, $703,000. AGAIN, MADAM PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THAT IT IS INDEFENSIBLE TO CALL UPON THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER TO SUBSIDIZED A COMPANY OF THIS SIZE. MCDONALD'S. WHO AMONG US DOESN'T ENJOY A BIG MA KPRFMT? I KNOW I DO. BUT THIS IS A -- MAC? BUT THIS IS A COMPANY THAT RECEIVED SINCE 1986 $1.6 MILLION OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, ALL TAXPAYER MONEY, TO SUPPLEMENT A COMPANY THAT MAKES THE NET PROFIT, ACCORDING TO THE 1994 DATA OF $1.2 PILL BILLION WHO HAS AN ADVERTISING OF NEARLY $700 MILLION AND C.E.O. COMPENSATION OF $1.78 MILLION. NOW IN ADDITION TO THIS IT IS NOT ONLY AMERICAN COMPANIES THAT RECEIVE. HERE IS A LIST -- NOT A COMPLETE LIST -- OF FOREIGN COMPANIES THAT RECEIVE MONEY FROM THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER. THE POINT TO BE MADE IS THAT AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE MAKING SOME VERY TOUGH BUDGET CUTS, VERY TOUGH BUDGET CUTS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY WHO HAVE BEEN ASKED TO STEP FORWARD WHETHER IT'S THE W.I.C. PROGRAM OR WHETHER IT'S SCHOOL NUTRITION OR ASSISTANCE TO OUR SCHOOLS IN TERMS OF DRUG ASSISTANCE, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN HOTLY DEBATED. BUT FOR SOME REASON THESE PROGRAMS ARE SACROSANCT. IT IS TIME, MADAM PRESIDENT, TO ELIMINATE THESE PROGRAMS. FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE INDEFENSIBLE IN TERMS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE, AND SECONDLY THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO HOW EFFECTIVE. THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE HAS DONE AN EVALUATION. AND THEY FIND A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS PROGRAM. NUMBER ONE, IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE ADVERTISING BUDGET ARE BEING EXCHANGED FOR ADVERTISING MONEY THAT IS ALREADY IN THE CORPORATE BUDGET. SECONDLY, THERE IS NO CRITERIA AS TO WHO IS ELIGIBLE, BIG COMPANY, SMALL COMPANY? THIRD, THERE'S NO CRITERIA HOW LONG YOU STAY IN. DO YOU GET IN AND STAY FOREVER? NOW THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST ONE REFORM THAT'S BEEN ADDED THE THAT YOU HAVE GOT THE GET OUT AT FIVE YEARS. BUT THAT'S FIVE YEARS FROM 1994. AND THAT MEANS THAT SOME OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROGRAM SINCE ITS ORIGIN. THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE, STATISTICAL DATA, ABSOLUTELY NONE, TO SUGGEST OR TO PROVE THAT THE, IN FACT, THESE DOLLARS HAVE ASSISTED OUR EXPORT PROMOTION PROGRAM. AND, MADAM PRESIDENT, I REMIND MY COLLEAGUE WE ARE SPENDING SEPARATE AND APART FOR THIS ON AGRICULTURE PROMOTION $2.2 BILLION. NOW, YOU'LL RECALL AGRICULTURAL EXPORTS REPRESENT 10% OF OUR EXPORT FROM AMERICAN. WE ARE SPENDING 63% OF A TOTAL OF $3.5 BILLION THAT IS BEING SPENT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON EXPORT PROMOTION. THERE ARE OTHER BRANDED NAMES THAT ARE HOUSEHOLD PRODUCTS. I THINK THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER IS ENTITLED TO BE ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE COMPANIES. HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES. I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THE COMPANIES. MY QUARREL WITH THEM IS THE FACT THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS WERE SUBSIDIZEED THE CORPORATE GIANTS IN AMERICA. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION HERE. WELSHES, MARVELOUS FRUIT JUICE, ANOTHER. THEY HAVE RECEIVED SINCE 1986 $5.8 MILLION. BLUE DIAMOND, THE FOLKS INVOLVED IN NUTS, $37 MILLION. DOLE FRESH FRUIT, $9 MILLION. IF THE PILLS BURY DOUGH BOW LOOKS CHUBBY IT'S BECAUSE THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZED HIS DIET HEAVILY. PILLS BURY RECEIVED DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME -- PILLSBURY RECEIVED $10 MILLION. MY POINT, MADAM PRESIDENT; THAT IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT CUTTING THE DEFICIT, IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING THE HARD CHOICES, THE TOUGH CUTS, WE'VE GOT THE BEGIN WITH PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. CORPORATE WELFARE OUGHT TO BE ON THE LINE EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS THE OTHER PROGRAMS WHICH HAVE BEEN ARE GETED THIS THIS CONGRESS EITHER FOR ELIMINATION OR REDUCTION. LET ME SAY THIS IS NOT A LIBERAL AMENDMENT. NOR A CONSERVATIVE AMENDMENT THAT MY FRIEND, THE DISTINGUISHED SENIOR SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS AND I OFFER. THIS IS A AN AMENDMENT IN WHICH THOSE THOSE WHO ARE TO THE POLITICAL RIGHT IN THE AMERICA, THE CATO INSTITUTE AND THE MODERATES, THE PROGRESSIVE POLICY INSTITUTE, HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM AND BOTH HAVE SAID AND REACHED THE SAME CONCLUSION, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT OUGHT TO BE ELIMINATED. TO CONCLUDE, MADAM PRESIDENT, IT IS TIME TO TAKE THESE COMPANIES OFF THE TAXPAYER DOLE. THEY ARE CAPABLE OFFENDING FOR THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE MARVELOUS PROGRAMS, SOPHISTICATED STAFFS. THEIR PAY THEIR PEOPLE TOP DOLLARS IN TERMS OF THEIR PROMOTION PROGRAM. THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER OUGHT NOT TO BE SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SUPPLEMENT THESE ADVERTISING ACCOUNTS. AND THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW. MADAM PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLOOR, RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED.

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  • 06:20:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AND COLLEAGUE FROM NEVADA. WE AGREE ON MANY THINGS. THIS IS ONE WHERE WE…

    AND COLLEAGUE FROM NEVADA. WE AGREE ON MANY THINGS. THIS IS ONE WHERE WE DON'T AGREE.

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  • 06:20:47 PM

    MRS. BOXER

    ONE WHERE WE DON'T AGREE. TO ZERO OUT A PROGRAM LIKE THE MARKET PROMOTION…

    ONE WHERE WE DON'T AGREE. TO ZERO OUT A PROGRAM LIKE THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM, WHICH WE KNOW IS WORKING -- AND CONTEND THAT MY COLLEAGUE SAYS THERE'S NO STATISTICAL PROOF THAT IT IS WORKING, I HAVE OTHER REPORTS THAN HE DOES ON THAT MATTER. BUT TO TAKE A PROGRAM THAT IS WORKING TO INCREASE OUR EXPORTS WHEN THAT IS WHAT IS SO CRUCIAL IN THIS YEAR, IN THIS TIME WHERE WE ARE APPROACHING THAT 21ST CENTURY MARK AND EXPORTS ARE CRUCIAL TO OUR ECONOMY. AND PROMOTING THOSE EXPORTS IS CERTAINLY CRUCIAL TO THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY RADICAL, RADICAL MOVE. WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT IS COMING UP FOR REVIEW. WE ARE GOING THE LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM IN THAT BUDGET REVIEW, AFTER WE DO THAT AND I'M ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, AS MY FRIEND KNOWS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL HARD LOOK AT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THE VARIOUS AUTHORIZATION COMMITTEES, AND, OF COURSE, IN THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE. BUT TO TAKE THIS MOVE TODAY TO ELIMINATE THIS PROGRAM, I HOPE THAT WE WILL NOT GO ALONG WIT. THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL, AS I HAVE STATED, IN EXPANDING MARKETS FOR THE UNITED STATES AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, FROM CALIFORNIA TO MANY OTHER STATES IN THE UNION. WE TALKED TODAY ABOUT REDIRECTING, REDIRECTING FARM SPENDING AWAY FROM PRICE SUPPORTS. I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE AWAY FROM PRICE SUPPORTS. BUT WE ALSO SHOULD WORK TOWARD EXPANDING MARKETS. I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO DO THAT. NOW, MY FRIEND FROM NEVADA SAYS THERE'S NO STATISTICAL DATA TO SHOW THAT THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM IS WORKING. I WOULD LIKE THE CALL TO HIS ATTENTION THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE STUDY. THEY ESTIMATE THAT EACH MARKETING PROMOTION DOLLAR RESULTS IN AN INCREASE IN AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT EXPORTS OF BETWEEN $2 AND $7. NOW, MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT IS A VERY GOOD RETURN ON OUR MONEY. INDEED, ANY BUSINESSPERSON WOULD SAY IF YOU PUT $1 IN AND IT RESULTS IN $2 OF INCREASE SALES UP TO $7 OF INCREASED SALES, THAT IS A VERY SOUND PROGRAM. AND MY COLLEAGUE TALKS ABOUT LARGE BENEFICIARIES. WELL, I THINK HE'S OVERLOOKING THE NUMBER OF SMALL BENEFICIARIES AS WELL. WE HAVE SEEN MUCH-NEEDED ASSISTANCE TO COMMODITY GROUPS COMPRISED OF SMALL FARMERS WHO WOULD BE UNABLE TO BREAK INTO THOSE MARKETS ON THEIR OWN. AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. I HAVE BEEN TO THE FERTILE VALUES OF CALIFORNIA AND I HAVE MET WITH THOSE SMALL FARMERS AND SEEN THOSE FAMILY FARMS. AND ALONE THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH POWER. BUT THEY COME TOGETHER AS COOPERATIVES AND THEY WORK TOGETHER AS MARKETING GROUPS. AND WITH THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BREAKING INTO THE EXPORT MARKET. SO I THINK IT TO SAY TO MY FRIEND THAT THE SMALL GROWERS AND THE SMALL FARMERS HAVE BENEFITED GREATLY. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE INTENTIONS OF THE PROGRAM. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO MY FRIEND THAT LAST YEAR A TASK FORCE OF THE U.S. AGRICULTURALENS PORT DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MET FOR TWO DAYS IN LEESBURG, VIRGINIA. THEIR FINK SHUN WAS TO REVIEW THE ROLE OF THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM. AND OTHER AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS AS PART OF OUR OVERALL TRADE POLICY. THE TASK FORCE CONCLUDED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM IS TO "INCREASE U.S. AGRICULTURAL PROJECT EXPORTS." IT ALSO CONCLUDED THAT THE INCREASE IN SUCH EXPORTS HELPS TO "CREATE AND PROTECT U.S. JOBS, COMBAT UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES, IMPROVE THE U.S. TRADE BALANCE AND IMPROVE FARM INCOME." AND I AM DIRECTLY QUOTING FROM THAT MEETING. SO, I WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND, ALTHOUGH HE HASN'T FOUND DOCUMENTATION THAT THIS PROGRAM WORKS AND IT HELPS US AND IS A WISE INVESTMENT, THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A WISE INVESTMENT. AND IT SHOULD BE SUPPORTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MY FRIEND IN CLOSING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DON'T LOOK AT THE FACT THAT OTHER COUNTRIES PUSH FOR THEIR EXPORTS, PUSH FOR THEIR AD PRODUCTS, PROMOTE THEIR PRODUCTS, FIGHT FOR THEIR PRODUCTS. AND WHAT DO WE DO SOMETIMES? WE WALK AWAY FROM A PROGRAM LIKE THIS AND LET OUR PEOPLE TWIST IN THE WIND. MADAM PRESIDENT, I SEE MY TIME IS UP. I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? IF NOT, GO FORWARD. MRS. BOXER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL CONCLUDE HERE. I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, AS WE MOVE TOWARD THIS GLOBAL MARKETPLACE, TO WALK AWAY FROM THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM.

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  • 06:26:18 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, AS WE MOVE TOWARD THIS GLOBAL…

    THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, AS WE MOVE TOWARD THIS GLOBAL MARKETPLACE, TO WALK AWAY FROM THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM.

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  • 06:26:22 PM

    MRS. BOXER

    WE MOVE TOWARD THIS GLOBAL MARKETPLACE, TO WALK AWAY FROM THE MARKETING…

    WE MOVE TOWARD THIS GLOBAL MARKETPLACE, TO WALK AWAY FROM THE MARKETING PROMOTION PROGRAM. OUR COMPETITORS HAVE PROGRAMS THAT DO FAR MORE FOR THEIR AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS THAN WE DO. AND THERE'S A REASON. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT EXPORTS ARE KEY TO ANY COUNTRY'S SUCCESS AS AN ECONOMIC POWER. WE DO NOT HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD OUT THERE. THAT IS CLEAR. SO I HOPE THAT MY FRIEND WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT THERE IS NO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, THAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE OUT THERE, PUSHING HARD FOR THEIR PRODUCTS, HELPING THEIR FARMERS TO PUSH EXPORTS. AND THIS IS OUR ONLY PROGRAM THAT DOES THAT. AND I HOP WE WILL DEFEAT HIS AMENDMENT. AND I WOULD YIELD THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME.

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  • 06:27:24 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    YIELD THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS WHATER TIME HE WISHES? MR. BUMPERS: HOW…

    YIELD THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS WHATER TIME HE WISHES? MR. BUMPERS: HOW MUCH TIME IS LEFT FOR THE PROPONENTS?

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  • 06:27:32 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    10 MINUTES, 34 SECONDS.

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    MR. BRYAN

    34 SECONDS.

  • 06:27:40 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    I HOPE IS LESS THAN 10 MINUTES. FIRST I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, AND…

    I HOPE IS LESS THAN 10 MINUTES. FIRST I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, AND GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR BRYAN FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THIS.

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  • 06:27:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FIRST I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, AND GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR BRYAN FOR HIS…

    FIRST I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, AND GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR BRYAN FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THIS.

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  • 06:27:46 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR BRYAN FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THIS. I HAD REQUESTED THE…

    GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR BRYAN FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THIS. I HAD REQUESTED THE G.A.O. REPORT ON HOW EFFECTIVE THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM WAS WORKING BACK IN 1993, AND THE REPORT THAT CAME BACK WAS LESS THAN SATISFACTORY. EVEN SO, WE CUT IT FROM ABOUT $200 MILLION THE $147 MILLION. AND LAST YEAR I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TOSHIP THE PROGRAM. BUT AS YOU KNOW -- TO ZIP THE PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, MR. GORTON, WAS SUCCESSFUL IN REINSTATEING THE PROGRAM BOTH IN THE COMMITTEE AND ON THE FLOOR. MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN GO THROUGH THE AGONY WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH HERE IN TRYING TO CUT SPENDING, AND PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE CUTTING SPENDING FOR SCHOOL LUNCHES, AND FOR CORPORATIONS FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND FOR A HOST OF OTHER THINGS THAT IN MY OPINION HAVE GREAT PER RIGHT, GO RIGHT TO THE HEART AND SOUL OF AMERICA. HOW WE CAN CUT SPENDING FOR THEM AND ACTUALLY ADD $25 MILLION TO THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM. IT WAS AT $85 MILLION. IT NOW STANDS AT $110, I BELIEVE. AND WE ARE TRYING TO ZAP THIS PROGRAM FOR DEFICIT REDUCTION. WE ARE NOT SETTING IT ASIDE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. I WOULD LOVE THE TAKE THIS AND PUT IT IN THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, BUT CHOSE TO MAKE IT TO ZAP IT FOR PURE DEFICIT REDUCTION. NOBODY IN THIS BODY, I DON'T THINK, SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE AND VOTE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE VOTING FOR WHEN WE CAN'T KILL A PROGRAM THAT IS A PURE SUBSIDY FOR THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA. IF WE WERE PROMOTING AN INDUSTRY, AN INDUSTRY-WIDE PRODUCT OR AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT, AS WE DO IN THE EXPORT ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM, IT MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE SENSE. BUT WE ARE PROMOTING BRAND LOYALTY. WE ARE NOT PROMOTING BURGER KING'S WHOPER. WE ARE PROMOTING MCDONALD'S MAC. LOOK DOWN THE LIST OF THE PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM THIS. 143 FOREIGN FIRMS. YOU INQUIRE, WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE DOING SPENDING AMERICAN TAXPAYERS' MONEY SUBSIDIZING FOREIGN COMPANIES AND PROMOTING THEIR BRAND LOYALTY? THE ANSWER. THEY USE SOME AMERICAN PRODUCTS AND SO IF FOREIGN COMPANIES THAT USE OUR PRODUCTS WANT TO ADVERTISE THEIR BRAND AND CREATE A BRAND LOYALTY, WE GIVE THEM MONEY TOO. AND IN ADDITION TO 143 FOREIGN CORPORATIONS, MADAM PRESIDENT, OVER 700 AMERICAN CORPORATIONS PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROGRAM. I'M NOT BLAMING THEM. WHEN UNCLE SAM THROWS A BIG HANDFUL OF MONEY OUT AND SAYS, COME AND GET IT IF I WERE ONE OF THESE CORPORATIONS, AND I HAD A FOREIGN PRESENCE, AS MOST OF THEM DO, I'D GET UP THERE AND APPLY FOR IT, TOO. BUT, MADAM PRESIDENT, I STARTED OFF SAYING THAT THE 1993 G.A.O. REPORT WHICH I REQUESTED WAS NOT VERY CONCLUSIVE. BUT IN 1994, I REQUESTED A G.A.O. REPORT THAT CAME IN ON MARCH -- IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, JUST THIS PAST MONTH. I ONLY GOT THIS A COUPLE 6 WEEKS AGO. NO SENATOR SHOULD VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL THEY LOOK AT THE 1995 G.A.O. REPORT. AND HERE'S WHAT THEY SAY: AND THIS IS THE MEAT OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT. "THE FOREIGN AGRICULTURAL SERVICE HAS NO ASSURANCE THAT MARKET PROMOTION FUNDS ARE SUPPORTING ADDITIONALAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES RATHER THAN SIMILARLY REPLACING COMPANY INDUSTRY FUNDS." NOW, THE G.A.O. DIDN'T JUST REACH THAT DECISION WILLY-NILLY. THEY STUDIED IT. AND THEY SAID, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS MONEY IS GOING FOR ADDITIONAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES WOULDN'T SPEND IF WE TORPEDO THIS PRAFMT -- PROGRAM. YOU CAN'T FIND A MORE COMPELLING REASON TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING AROUND HERE THAN A G.A.O. REPORT WHICH SAYS THAT. IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING -- AND I AM NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT YET -- IF WE WERE GOING TO CHAMPION A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS -- AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ME EVER BEING FOR IT -- IT OUGHT TO BE FOR SMALL BUSINESS, NOT BIG BUSINESS. SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, I HATE TO USE THE TERM KGS CORPORATE WELFARE" BECAUSE BIG CORPORATIONS MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THIS COUNTRY. I'M NOT BLAMING THEM FOR STANDING AT THE TROUGH AND GETTING -- GIVING US MONEY. 700 OF THEM. AND LOOK DOWN THE LIST. IT'S SHOCKING. HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE $115 MILLION. DOESN'T COST ANYBODY ANYTHING. $115 MILLION IN GENUINE DEFICIT REDUCTION. I LISTENED TO SOME SENATORS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TWO EVENINGS AGO TALKING ABOUT PORK , TALKING ABOUT THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS WASTE OF THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY. HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO QUIT TALKING AND MAKING PARTISAN POINTS, JOIN HANDS AND KILL AN ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS PROGRAM, AS FAR AS THIS COUNTRY IS CONCERNED, AND ALLOW THESE COMPANIES TO FLOAT FREE AND EASY ON THEIR OWN AND SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY. MADAM PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLOOR AND RESERVE SUCH BALANCE OF TIME AS THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM NEVADA MAY HAVE. A SENATOR: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MISSOURI.

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  • 06:34:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OR ALOE INDICATED TO INDIVIDUAL SENATORS? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    OR ALOE INDICATED TO INDIVIDUAL SENATORS? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATORS IN OPPOSE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THE

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  • 06:34:52 PM

    MR. COCHRAN

    THE SENATORS IN OPPOSE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THE -- THE FLONTES HAVE 3…

    THE SENATORS IN OPPOSE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THE -- THE FLONTES HAVE 3 MINUTES, 28 SECONDS. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 06:35:02 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THREE MINUTES, 28 SECONDS.

  • 06:35:18 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    THE INTEREST OF MOVING THIS DEBATE FORWARD, LET ME JUST EXPRESS MY…

    THE INTEREST OF MOVING THIS DEBATE FORWARD, LET ME JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS FOR HIS EFFORTS AND MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF POINTS, IF I MAY.

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  • 06:35:23 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DEBATE FORWARD, LET ME JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE DISTINGUISHED…

    DEBATE FORWARD, LET ME JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS FOR HIS EFFORTS AND MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF POINTS, IF I MAY.

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  • 06:35:28 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    ARKANSAS FOR HIS EFFORTS AND MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF POINTS, IF I MAY.…

    ARKANSAS FOR HIS EFFORTS AND MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF POINTS, IF I MAY. HE MADE THE OBSERVATION, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, THAT THERE ARE 140 FOREIGN-BRAND NAME COMPANIES. HERE IS A PARTIAL LIST OF THEM RIGHT HERE. SOME OF THE NAMES YOU MAY KNOW. SOME OF THEM, FRANKLY, I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF. BUT 140. AND TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS WAS MAKING, FROM 1986 TO 1993, 20% -- 20% -- OF THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR BRANDED ADVERTISING -- THAT'S THE MCDONALD'S AND THE REST OF IT -- GOES TO FOREIGN COMPANIES. 20%. AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU JUSTIFY AND HOW YOU SUPPORT THAT. THE OTHER POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THIS G.A.O. REPORT THAT THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR MAKES REFERENCE TO HAS A VERY INTERESTING PIECE OF TESTIMONY. AND THAT IS, ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS OF THE PROGRAM WAS ASKED BY THE AUDITORS, HOW DID YOU ALL BECOME INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM? WELL, SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A PHONE CALL. THEY SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET SOME MONEY? WELL, THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS SAYS, I DON'T FAULT THE COMPANY. AND SHE SAID, WELL, TELL ME HOW. LOOK, WE'RE PASSING OUT MONEY ON THIS PROGRAM CALLED THE MARKET PROMOTION PROGRAM. AND INDEED, THE COMPANY DID IN FACT. THE COMPANY, NEWMAN'S OWN, PAUL NEWMAN'S FOOD COMPANY -- AND THEY JUST GOT A CALL AND SAID, LOOK, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME HELP WITH YOUR ADVERTISING BILLS? THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO REIMBURSE US, WAS HER TESTIMONY. SHE WAS AN OFFICIAL FROM NEWMAN'S OWN. SHE'D -- SHE SAID, FINE, WE'D BE DELIGHTED TO TAKE IT. THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS THAT IS MADE THE POINT. (1) IT HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT IT HAS ACCOMPLISHED ITS DESIRED PURPOSE. IT IS NOT EFFECTIVE. ISN'T THAT A PRIME REASON TO ZERO IT OUT AND, SECONDLY, FILL SOLVECALLY, MADAM PRESIDENT, I MUST SAY, IT STICKS IN MY CRAW -- AND GOOD COMPANIES, I'M NOT MALIGNING THESE COMPANIES -- COMPANIES LIKE THIS WOULD GET IN THE PUBLIC TROUGH AN GET THIS KIND OF TAXPAYER DOLLAR WHEN EVERYBODY IN THIS CONGRESS HAS TALK ADD PRETTY GOOD TALK ABOUT REDUCING THE DEFICIT. THIS OUGHT TO BE A NO-BRAINER. THIS IS NOT A DIFFICULT -- THIS IS ONE IN WHICH WE OUGHT TO SAY, THESE COMPANIES OUGHT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLY ON THEIR OWN, AND I YIELD THE FLOOR AND RESERVE ANY TIME THAT MAY BE LEFT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA HAS 31 SECONDS LEFT. MR. COCHRAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI IS RECOGNIZED. MR. COCHRAN: FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT PUTTING THE SIGN OF MCDONALD'S ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND SUGGESTING THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUBSIDIZE MCDONALD'S OR ANY OTHER PARTICULAR FIRM IS AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RECOGNIZED. MR. COCHRAN: FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT PUTTING THE SIGN OF…

    RECOGNIZED. MR. COCHRAN: FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT PUTTING THE SIGN OF MCDONALD'S ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND SUGGESTING THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUBSIDIZE MCDONALD'S OR ANY OTHER PARTICULAR FIRM IS AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM.

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  • 06:38:14 PM

    MR. COCHRAN

    FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND SUGGESTING THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO…

    FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND SUGGESTING THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUBSIDIZE MCDONALD'S OR ANY OTHER PARTICULAR FIRM IS AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DESIGNED TO SUBSIDIZE MCDONALD'S OR ANY OTHER PARTICULAR FIRM IS AN…

    DESIGNED TO SUBSIDIZE MCDONALD'S OR ANY OTHER PARTICULAR FIRM IS AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM.

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    MR. COCHRAN

    AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM. LET ME READ TO YOU A LETTER -- A…

    AN OUTRAGEOUS DISTORTION OF THIS PROGRAM. LET ME READ TO YOU A LETTER -- A MEMO WRITTEN BY THE POULTRY AND EGG EXPORT COUNCIL ABOUT THE MCDONALD'S ISSUE. IT SAYS IN PARXT "YES, OUR COUNCIL HAS USED M.P.P. TO HELP MCDONALD'S SELL MORE AMERICAN CHICKEN BUT NOT TO PROMOTE MCDONALD'S. THE FACTS ARE THAT MCDONE LD'S FRANCHISES ARE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE FOREIGN-OWNED AND OPERATED. THEY ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO BUY U.S. POULTRY OR EGGS AND CAN READILY FIND LOWER-PRICED AND LOWER-QUALITY PRODUCT IN THAILAND, MALL LAY SHARKS OR ELSEWHERE. BUT BY ALLOWING MCDONALD'S TO APPLY FOR AND RECEIVING MATCHING FUNDS UNDER M.P.P. REQUIRES THEIR FRANCHISEES TO BE ENTIRELY SUPPLIED WITH U.S. PRODUCTS. THE POINT IS, WE ARE NOT PROMOTING MCDONE LD'S WE'RE GETTING MB DONALD'S TO ADVERTISE U.S. CHICKEN AND EGGS. AND IT HAS BEEN QUITE EFFECTIVE. IN FACT, THE STPAIT OF ARKANSAS HAS LIKELY BENEFITED MORE FROM THIS ACTIVITY THAN ANY OTHER STATE." I MEAN SHALL THE POINT IS THIS: THE MARKET PROMOTION FUNDS ARE MADE AVAILABLE ALMOST 97% TO U.S. TRADE ASSOCIATIONS, THE NATIONAL CATTLEMEN'S ASSOCIATION SAYS THESE FUNDS ARE HELPED THEM BREAK INTO THE MARKET IN JAPAN IN KOREA, AND BUILD MARKET SHARE. WE'VE SEEN THE FUNDS USED IN OTHER COUNTRIES FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, TO TRY TO OVERCOME BARRIERS TO U.S. TRADE. IT'S HELPED FARMERS, ITS CREATED JOBS IN AMERICA, IT HAS BENEFITED EVERY COMMUNITY. I WANT TO PUT IN THE RECORD -- AND I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT, MADAM PRESIDENT, TO PUT A COPY OF A LETTER FROM THE COALITION TO PROMOTE U.S. AGRICULTURAL EXPORTS IN THE RECORD THAT SHOWS A LISTING OF ALL OF THE AGRICULTURE AND FARM COMMODITY GROUPS IN AMERICA THAT BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY CAN SELL WHAT THEY PRODUCE MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH THIS PROGRAM'S PROMOTION MONEY IN OVERSEAS MARKETS. WHEN THEY HAVE TO COMBAT THE UNFAIR AND COMPETITIVE SUBSIDIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY THIS YEAR IS GOING TO SPEND $89 MILLION JUST PROMOTING WINE EXPORTS AND SUBSIDIZING WINE EXPORTS. A LOT OF THAT INTO THE U.S. THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM IS $85 MILLION, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO KNOCK OUT EVERY DOLLAR OF T WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FUNDS LEFT TO HELP COMBAT THE UNFAIR AND HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED TRADING PRACTICES OF FOREIGN COUNTRIES IF YOU TAKE AWAY THIS TOOL. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE FUNDING. IT USED TO BE $200 MILLION A YEAR. AND BECAUSE OF CUTS IN THIS AND OTHER PROGRAMS, WE WILL TO DOWNSIZE THE PROGRAM. IT IS NOW ONLY $85 MILLION. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THAT. THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HELP COMPANIES, TO HELP FARM GROUPS, AND STATE DEPARTMENTS OF AGRICULTURE DEAL WITH THESE COMPETITORS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THE SHARE. THEY ASKED FOR AN INCREASE FROM $85 MILLION TO $110 MILLION, AND THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IT. THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AGREED 20 IT. AND WE OUGHT TO APPROVE T I'M HOPING THE SENATE WILL REJECT THIS AMENDMENT. I YIELD WHATEVER TIME REMAINS TO THE SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

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  • 06:41:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ONLY SUGGESTION FOR THE REDUCTION IN FUNDS THAT WE GET FROM MEMBERS WHO BY…

    ONLY SUGGESTION FOR THE REDUCTION IN FUNDS THAT WE GET FROM MEMBERS WHO BY AND LARGE HAVE BEEN VOTING TO INCREASE FUNDS FOR ALL SORTS OF INCOME-TRANSFER PURPOSES IS TO TAKE AWAY FUNDS THAT HELP THE UNITED STATES SELL ITS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS ABROAD. THIS

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  • 06:41:53 PM

    MR. GORTON

    AND LARGE HAVE BEEN VOTING TO INCREASE FUNDS FOR ALL SORTS OF…

    AND LARGE HAVE BEEN VOTING TO INCREASE FUNDS FOR ALL SORTS OF INCOME-TRANSFER PURPOSES IS TO TAKE AWAY FUNDS THAT HELP THE UNITED STATES SELL ITS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS ABROAD. THIS PROGRAM DOES MORE TO BENEFIT HARD-WORKING AMERICAN FARMERS AND FOOD PROCESSORS THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER PROGRAM WE HAVE. IT HELPS US TO DEAL WITH A TERRIBLE DEFICIT IN OUR TRADE BALANCE. THE LARGE THEAFT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD. IT HELPS -- IT IS A MORE POSITIVE IMPACT ON WHAT WE DO TO PRODUCE MONEY FOR OUR FARMERS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THEM, FOR THOSE WHO PROCESS FOOD THAN PRACTICALLY ANY OTHER PROGRAM. BY ALL MEANS, WE SHOULD NOT TURN DOWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR ECONOMY BECOME MORE AND MORE COMPETITIVE. WE SHOULD REJECT THIS AMENDMENT. MR. COCHRAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS THERE TIME LEFT IN OPPOSITION? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ALL THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA HAS 30 SECOND. MR. BRYAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET

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  • 06:43:00 PM

    MR. COCHRAN

    VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET ME JUST SAY IN RESPONSE TO MY FRIENDS ON…

    VERY MUCH, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET ME JUST SAY IN RESPONSE TO MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THIS PROPOSITION, I'M NOT ARGUING NOR IS THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARC THAT IS CORRECT NO AGRICULTURAL PROMOTION IS DEFENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED. WE

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  • 06:43:04 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THIS PROPOSITION, I'M NOT ARGUING NOR…

    TO MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THIS PROPOSITION, I'M NOT ARGUING NOR IS THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARC THAT IS CORRECT NO AGRICULTURAL PROMOTION IS DEFENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED. WE

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  • 06:43:10 PM

    MR. BRYAN

    THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARC THAT IS CORRECT NO AGRICULTURAL…

    THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ARC THAT IS CORRECT NO AGRICULTURAL PROMOTION IS DEFENSIBLE OR JUSTIFIED. WE ARE SPENDING 2.2 -- $2.2 BILLION. $2.2 BILLION ON AGRICULTURE PROMOTION FOR EXPORTS, ASIDE FROM THIS PROGRAM. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT SUBSIDIZES THE WEALTHIEST CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA CANNOT BE DEFENDED, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE SPENDING $2.2 BILLION, 63% OF ALL THE MONEY SPENT FOUR PROMOTION AROUND -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE TIME OF THE SENATOR HAS EXPIRED.

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  • 06:49:59 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OF THE SENATOR HAS EXPIRED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: I HAD YIELD THE FLOOR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    YIELD THE FLOOR. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ALL TIME HAS EXPIRED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAS EXPIRED.

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    MR. COCHRAN

    THE AMENDMENT. I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS…

    THE AMENDMENT. I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE A SUFFICIENT SECOND? THERE IS SUFFICIENT SECOND.

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  • 06:56:34 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    A SUFFICIENT SECOND? THERE IS SUFFICIENT SECOND. THE QUESTION -- UNDER THE…

    A SUFFICIENT SECOND? THERE IS SUFFICIENT SECOND. THE QUESTION -- UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE QUESTION OCCURS ON THE MOTION TO TABLE AMENDMENT NUMBER 46 OFFERED BY THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, MR. BRYAN. THE YEAS AND NAYS HAVE BEEN ORDERED. \HE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. THERE SENATORS IN THE CHAMBER WHO DESIRE TO VOTE? IF NOT, ON THE VOTE THE YEAS ARE 61. THE NAYS ARE 37. THE MOTION TO TABLE IS AGREED TO. A SENATOR: MOVE TO LAY THAT ON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION IS AGREED TO.

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  • 07:08:00 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MOTION IS AGREED TO. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MAJORITY LEADER. MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. DOLE

    QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    CALL THE ROLL. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA.

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  • 07:11:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE MAJORITY LEADER. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT FURTHER…

    THE MAJORITY LEADER. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE RESCINDED.

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  • 07:13:09 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. DOLE

    THAT I THINK WE MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT HERE IF WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S…

    THAT I THINK WE MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT HERE IF WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S COOPERATION. AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO FINISH THIS BILL TONIGHT.

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  • 07:13:18 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    EVERYBODY'S COOPERATION. AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO FINISH THIS BILL TONIGHT.

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    MR. DOLE

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE LAID ASIDE. THE CLERK…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE LAID ASIDE. THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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  • 07:14:10 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. DOLE, FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 577. MR.…

    MR. DOLE, FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 577. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THERE BE 30 MINUTES FOR DEBATE ON THE DOLE AMENDMENT TO BE EQUALLY DIVIDED IN THE USUAL FORM AND THAT NO AMENDMENTS BE IN ORDER DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE DOLE-DASCHLE AMENDMENT. THE

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  • 07:14:19 PM

    THE CLERK

    CONSENT THAT THERE BE 30 MINUTES FOR DEBATE ON THE DOLE AMENDMENT TO BE…

    CONSENT THAT THERE BE 30 MINUTES FOR DEBATE ON THE DOLE AMENDMENT TO BE EQUALLY DIVIDED IN THE USUAL FORM AND THAT NO AMENDMENTS BE IN ORDER DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE DOLE-DASCHLE AMENDMENT. THE

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  • 07:14:28 PM

    MR. DOLE

    USUAL FORM AND THAT NO AMENDMENTS BE IN ORDER DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE…

    USUAL FORM AND THAT NO AMENDMENTS BE IN ORDER DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE DOLE-DASCHLE AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. DOLE: I FURTHER ASK THAT THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS BE THE ONLY AMENDMENTS IN ORDER AND LIMITED TO FOLLOWING TIME RESTRAINTS NOTED ALL IN THE USUAL FORM.

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  • 07:14:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IN ORDER AND LIMITED TO FOLLOWING TIME RESTRAINTS NOTED ALL IN THE USUAL…

    IN ORDER AND LIMITED TO FOLLOWING TIME RESTRAINTS NOTED ALL IN THE USUAL FORM. I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY SENATOR LEVIN HE WILL NOT OFFER THE ONE AMENDMENT.

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  • 07:14:53 PM

    MR. DOLE

    USUAL FORM. I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY SENATOR LEVIN HE WILL NOT OFFER THE ONE…

    USUAL FORM. I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY SENATOR LEVIN HE WILL NOT OFFER THE ONE AMENDMENT. HE DOES HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT. AN AMENDMENT BY SENATOR WELLSTONE, A MANAGER'S AMENDMENT, A HATFIELD-BYRD AMENDMENT AND A HAR CONDITION ADD-BACK FOR C.P.P. AND ON THAT THERE WILL BE AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. A SENATOR: RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. DOLE: AND -- EXCUSE ME. I DIDN'T GIVE THE TIMES ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. ON

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  • 07:15:30 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    GIVE THE TIMES ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. ON THE HARKIN, 20 MINUTES EQUALLY…

    GIVE THE TIMES ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. ON THE HARKIN, 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED. ON THE WELLSTONE AMENDMENT, 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED. ON

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  • 07:15:38 PM

    MR. DOLE

    MR. PRESIDENT, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT WHICH I…

    MR. PRESIDENT, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT WHICH I DON'T NEED MORE THAN TEN MINUTES FOR WHICH I INTENDS TO OFFER.

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  • 07:15:55 PM

    MR. GORTON

    TO OFFER.

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    MR. JEFFORDS

    MR. PRESIDENT, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I'D ASK THE DISTINGUISHED…

    MR. PRESIDENT, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I'D ASK THE DISTINGUISHED MAJORITY LEADER, ON MY AMENDMENT I HAD INITIALLY ASKED FOR 20 MINUTES ON OUR SIDE. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH TIME THE OTHER SIDE TAKES. I NEED 20 MINUTES BECAUSE I'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO OTHER PEOPLE, AT LEAST, THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON IT. I NEED AT LEAST 10 TO 15. IF I CAN HAVE 20 MINUTES, THAT WILL BE FINE.

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  • 07:16:59 PM

    MR. DOLE

    COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.

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    MR. HARKIN

    WHAT'S THE TOTAL OF THE AMENDMENT?

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    MR. DOLE

    THE TOTAL OF THE AMENDMENT IS --

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    MR. HARKIN

    DOLE: AND IT IS OFFSET?

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    MR. DOLE

    THE CUT IN RADIO FREE EUROPE. THE SUM -- SOME OF THE MONEY GOES TO GET…

    THE CUT IN RADIO FREE EUROPE. THE SUM -- SOME OF THE MONEY GOES TO GET C.P.P.

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  • 07:18:11 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    IT'S GOING TO BE 20 AND TEN.

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    MR. DOLE

    I WAS HOPING THE WAY THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT WAS READ, THAT WHEN I SEND MY…

    I WAS HOPING THE WAY THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT WAS READ, THAT WHEN I SEND MY AMENDMENT TO THE DESK, WHICH PUTS MONEY IN THE SENIOR COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE RULED OUT OF ORDER UNDER THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT.

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  • 07:20:07 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    WAS READ, THAT WHEN I SEND MY AMENDMENT TO THE DESK, WHICH PUTS MONEY IN…

    WAS READ, THAT WHEN I SEND MY AMENDMENT TO THE DESK, WHICH PUTS MONEY IN THE SENIOR COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE RULED OUT OF ORDER UNDER THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?

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  • 07:21:29 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DO I STAND, MR. PRESIDENT? A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT,

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    MR. JEFFORDS

    A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, I WITHDRAW MY OBJECTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, I WITHDRAW MY OBJECTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, I FURTHER ASK THAT FOLLOWING THE DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE SENATE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY A THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R.

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  • 07:22:03 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY A THIRD…

    PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY A THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R.

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  • 07:22:07 PM

    MR. DOLE

    BY A THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R. 1158 AS AMENDED. ALL WITHOUT…

    BY A THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R. 1158 AS AMENDED. ALL WITHOUT ANY INTERVENING ACTION OR DEBATE. BUT BEFORE THE CHAIR RULES ON THAT, I THINK IT'S BEST TO HAVE A COLLOQUY AT THIS TIME. THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR -- WITH THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM NEW YORK WITH REFERENCE TO THE AMENDMENT ON MEXICO, WHICH WOULD BE CRITICAL TO WINDING UP THIS PACKAGE THIS EVENING, AS I UNDERSTAND FROM THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND OTHERS. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK. MR. D'AMATO: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 07:22:54 PM

    MR. D'AMATO

    I THANK THE MAJORITY LEADER. AND I RECOGNIZE THE SITUATION AND THE DILEMMA…

    I THANK THE MAJORITY LEADER. AND I RECOGNIZE THE SITUATION AND THE DILEMMA THAT THE SENATE FINDS ITSELF IN IN CONFRONTING THE NECESSITY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BILL. I

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  • 07:22:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    LEADER. AND I RECOGNIZE THE SITUATION AND THE DILEMMA THAT THE SENATE…

    LEADER. AND I RECOGNIZE THE SITUATION AND THE DILEMMA THAT THE SENATE FINDS ITSELF IN IN CONFRONTING THE NECESSITY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BILL. I

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  • 07:23:04 PM

    MR. D'AMATO

    THE AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT?

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AGREEMENT. I THINK -- I DID ASK THAT FOLLOWING DISPOSITION OF THE…

    AGREEMENT. I THINK -- I DID ASK THAT FOLLOWING DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE-LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE SENATE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R.

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  • 07:29:00 PM

    MR. DOLE

    I DID ASK THAT FOLLOWING DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE-LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE…

    I DID ASK THAT FOLLOWING DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE-LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE SENATE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R.

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  • 07:29:02 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE-LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE SENATE PROCEED TO VOTE ON…

    DISPOSITION OF THE ABOVE-LISTED AMENDMENTS, THE SENATE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R.

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  • 07:29:05 PM

    MR. DOLE

    TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THIRD READING AND…

    TO VOTE ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OF H.R. 1158 WITHOUT INTERVENING ACTION OR DEBATE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO SAY TO THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, I THINK HE'S RIGHT. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

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  • 07:29:26 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. AND SOONER OR…

    IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. AND SOONER OR LATER CONGRESS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BECOME INVOLVED BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING TAXPAYERS' MONEY.

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  • 07:29:30 PM

    MR. DOLE

    I ALSO ASK IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE VOTE, THE SUCCEEDING VOTES BE LIMITED…

    I ALSO ASK IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE VOTE, THE SUCCEEDING VOTES BE LIMITED TO TEN MINUTES.

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  • 07:30:59 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. DOLE

    WOULD ALSO ASK MY COLLEAGUES THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE 20, 15 DIFFERENT…

    WOULD ALSO ASK MY COLLEAGUES THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE 20, 15 DIFFERENT TIME ALLOTMENTS, THAT I THINK WE COULD SAVE SOME TIME. I WANT TO THANK THE DISTINGUISHED DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR HIS COOPERATION THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT YESTERDAY AND THROUGHOUT PART OF THE NIGHT, LAST NIGHT. AND

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  • 07:31:10 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SAVE SOME TIME. I WANT TO THANK THE DISTINGUISHED DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR…

    SAVE SOME TIME. I WANT TO THANK THE DISTINGUISHED DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR HIS COOPERATION THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT YESTERDAY AND THROUGHOUT PART OF THE NIGHT, LAST NIGHT. AND

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  • 07:31:13 PM

    MR. DOLE

    DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR HIS COOPERATION THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT…

    DEMOCRATIC LEADER FOR HIS COOPERATION THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT YESTERDAY AND THROUGHOUT PART OF THE NIGHT, LAST NIGHT. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE OF INCLUDING A BILL THAT NOW TOTALS ABOUT $16 BILLION IN RESCISSIONS. $16 BILLION. AND THIS BILL WILL GO TO CONFERENCE. AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WILL BE RAISED AGAIN IN THE CONFERENCE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR CONCERN MAY BE -- IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE, IT CAN BE RAISED IN THE CONFERENCE. SO I THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR THE COOPERATION. I THINK WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE END IS IN SIGHT. I YIELD THE FLOOR. MR. DASCHLE:

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  • 07:32:05 PM

    MR. DASCHLE

    AISLE FOR THEIR COOPERATION AND THE EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING US…

    AISLE FOR THEIR COOPERATION AND THE EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING US TO THIS POINT. IT'S BEEN

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  • 07:32:06 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    COOPERATION AND THE EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING US TO THIS POINT.…

    COOPERATION AND THE EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING US TO THIS POINT. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING US TO THIS POINT. AND I WANT

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  • 07:32:11 PM

    MR. DASCHLE

    A LONG DAY. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR…

    A LONG DAY. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING US TO THIS POINT. AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY COMMEND THEM AND THANK THEM FOR THAT EFFORT. WE STILL HAVE SOME VERY BIG DECISIONS TO MAKE. AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OFFERED. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WILLINGNESS TO ACCOMMODATE A DEBATE ON EACH ONE OF THESE ISSUES. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE, AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN ALL SUPPORT. OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME DOWN ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE WHEN WE COME TO FINAL PASSAGE. BUT I THINK THIS ACCOMMODATES SENATORS IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO GET TO THAT POINT. AND SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD AGREEMENT. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD WORK THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS AND GET TO FINAL PASSAGE SOMETIME TONIGHT. I YIELD THE FLOOR.

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  • 07:33:11 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BEEN CLEARED BY BOTH SIDES, REFERENCE TO WHICH WAS MADE BY THE MAJORITY…

    BEEN CLEARED BY BOTH SIDES, REFERENCE TO WHICH WAS MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE U.C. THE PRESIDING

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  • 07:33:14 PM

    MR. LEVIN

    WAS MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE U.C. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    WAS MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE U.C. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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  • 07:33:28 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT…

    READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. LEVIN:

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  • 07:33:31 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. LEVIN: MR. PRESIDENT, I AM SENDING THIS TO…

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. LEVIN: MR. PRESIDENT, I AM SENDING THIS TO THE DESK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND SENATORS ABRAHAM, SPECTER, GLENN, KOHL, SANTORUM, SIGH MINISTER AND MOESLEY-BRAUN. THIS

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  • 07:33:36 PM

    MR. LEVIN

    DESK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND SENATORS ABRAHAM, SPECTER, GLENN, KOHL,…

    DESK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND SENATORS ABRAHAM, SPECTER, GLENN, KOHL, SANTORUM, SIGH MINISTER AND MOESLEY-BRAUN. THIS AMENDMENT WILL RESTORE $2 MILLION TO THE RESEARCH PROGRAM ON THE ZEBRA MUSSELL WHICH IS A PEST THAT HAS INFEFLTED THE GREAT LAKES AND NOW IS SPREADING THROUGH THE TRIB DAY RICE FROM AND TO THE GREAT LAKES.

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  • 07:33:41 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AND MOESLEY-BRAUN. THIS AMENDMENT WILL RESTORE $2 MILLION TO THE RESEARCH…

    AND MOESLEY-BRAUN. THIS AMENDMENT WILL RESTORE $2 MILLION TO THE RESEARCH PROGRAM ON THE ZEBRA MUSSELL WHICH IS A PEST THAT HAS INFEFLTED THE GREAT LAKES AND NOW IS SPREADING THROUGH THE TRIB DAY RICE FROM AND TO THE GREAT LAKES.

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  • 07:33:44 PM

    MR. LEVIN

    THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON TPWORTE GORTE THE SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN IS…

    THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON TPWORTE GORTE THE SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN IS CORRECT. THIS AMENDMENT HAS BEEN OKAYED ON THIS SIDE.

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  • 07:34:28 PM

    MR. GORTON

    FROM WASHINGTON. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE BALANCE OF MY STATEMENT…

    FROM WASHINGTON. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE BALANCE OF MY STATEMENT BE INSERTED IN THE RECORD, AND THAT SENATOR FEINGOLD BE ADDED AS A COSPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. THE

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  • 07:34:29 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE BALANCE OF MY STATEMENT BE INSERTED IN THE…

    ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE BALANCE OF MY STATEMENT BE INSERTED IN THE RECORD, AND THAT SENATOR FEINGOLD BE ADDED AS A COSPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE

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  • 07:34:37 PM

    MR. LEVIN

    THE AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WITHOUT OBJECTION…

    THE AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WITHOUT OBJECTION THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO. MR. LEVIN: I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE. I THANK MY FRIEND. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 07:34:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AGREED TO. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?

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    MR. LEVIN

    MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK AND I ASK FOR ITS MADE…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK AND I ASK FOR ITS MADE CONSIDERATION.

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  • 07:34:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AND I ASK FOR ITS MADE CONSIDERATION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA MR.…

    OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA MR. HARKIN FOR

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  • 07:35:03 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA MR. HARKIN FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS…

    REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA MR. HARKIN FOR HIMSELF AND OTHERS PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 579. INSERT AFTER PAGE 7, LINE 1, INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING OPERATIONS RESCISSION OF THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE. MR. HARKIN:

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  • 07:35:11 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AFTER PAGE 7, LINE 1, INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING OPERATIONS RESCISSION OF…

    AFTER PAGE 7, LINE 1, INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING OPERATIONS RESCISSION OF THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE. MR. HARKIN:

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  • 07:35:15 PM

    THE CLERK

    OF THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT I ASK FURTHER…

    OF THE FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT I ASK FURTHER READING BE DISPENSED WITH.

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  • 07:35:29 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    THAT CORRECT? PRO THAT'S CORRECT. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD…

    THAT CORRECT? PRO THAT'S CORRECT. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD MYSELF TEN MINUTES.

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  • 07:35:33 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I YIELD MYSELF TEN MINUTES. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS AMENDMENT OFFERED ON…

    I YIELD MYSELF TEN MINUTES. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS AMENDMENT OFFERED ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, SENATOR HOLLINGS, REID AND KENNEDY, WOULD BASICALLY RESCIND $40.5

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  • 07:35:36 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    THIS AMENDMENT OFFERED ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, SENATOR HOLLINGS, REID AND…

    THIS AMENDMENT OFFERED ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, SENATOR HOLLINGS, REID AND KENNEDY, WOULD BASICALLY RESCIND $40.5 MILLION FROM THE FUNDING FOR THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS RADIO FREE EUROPE. OF THAT

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  • 07:35:43 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    MILLION FROM THE FUNDING FOR THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS RADIO FREE EUROPE.…

    MILLION FROM THE FUNDING FOR THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS RADIO FREE EUROPE. OF THAT MONEY, WE WOULD TAKE $26 MILLION BE PUT IT INTO THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING HERE IN AMERICA, AND THE OTHER $14 MILLION WOULD GO FOR THE SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM. NOW AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS -- ADDING THIS MONEY, THIS $26 MILLION TO THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, STILL LEAVES THE C.P.B. AT $29 MILLION LEG THAN WHAT WAS APPROPRIATED LAT YEAR. IT DOES NOT BRING IT UP TO THE FULLY APPROPRIATED LEVEL. IT BRINGS IT UP TO BASICALLY AND AN INFLATION INCREASE, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT EMPHATICALLY THAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT EVEN BRING THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING UP TO WHAT WAS FUNDED LAST YEAR. IT DOES TAKE $40 MILLION OUT OF RADIO FREE EUROPE, AND I THINK IT REFLECTS AN IMPORTANT HIS TORY CALL REALITY, NAMELY THE COLD WAR IS OVER, IT IS TIME THAT WE TAKE SOME OF THESE OLD RELICS OF THE COLD WAR AND WE START DEFUNDING THEM. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE HERE AN ARTICLE THAT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD CALLED "COLD WAR FOSSIL POS SEE IN PURSUIT" FROM THE "WASHINGTON TIMES". SKI UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE PRINTED IN THE RECORD.

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  • 07:37:21 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT, RIGHT NOW…

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. HARKIN: MR. PRESIDENT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION IN THE UNITED STATES.

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  • 07:37:23 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    MR. PRESIDENT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING FEDERAL…

    MR. PRESIDENT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT IS WHILE THE SAME OPPONENTS WHO RAIL AGAINST U.S. CONTRIBUTIONS TO

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  • 07:37:31 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THAT IS WHILE THE SAME OPPONENTS WHO RAIL AGAINST U.S. CONTRIBUTIONS TO

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    MR. HARKIN

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. HARKIN: I WOULD ASK TO INSERT A LETTER FROM THE…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. HARKIN: I WOULD ASK TO INSERT A LETTER FROM THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF SENIOR CITIZENS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM AT THIS POINT, MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 07:43:31 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. HARKIN

    MR. PRESIDENT, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING? THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    MR. PRESIDENT, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: TWO MINUTES OF THE TEN MINUTES ALLOTTED YOURSELF, AND THEN ANOTHER TEN.

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  • 07:43:42 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. HARKIN

    YIELD TWO MINUTES OR WHATEVER MORE HE NEEDS TO THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT.…

    YIELD TWO MINUTES OR WHATEVER MORE HE NEEDS TO THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT. MR.

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  • 07:43:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT. MR. LEAHY: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK MY FULL…

    TO THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT. MR. LEAHY: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK MY FULL STATEMENT BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING

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  • 07:43:53 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    PART OF THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

  • 07:44:00 PM

    MR. LEAHY

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RADIO FREE EUROPE, WHICH REALLY IS ON A KRO NIM. COLD…

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RADIO FREE EUROPE, WHICH REALLY IS ON A KRO NIM. COLD WAR TIME. THEY COULD SEND OUT A NEWS FLASH AND SAY THE IRON CURTAIN HAS FALLEN, BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A PROGRAM THERE, WHICH USES SHORT WAVE RADIO AT A TIME WHEN EVEN IN THE FORMER COMMUNIST COUNTRIES, THEY ARE RECEIVING THEIR NEWS BY SATELLITE, BY OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, INCLUDING THE INTERNET, I FIND WHEN I GO ON THE INTERNET I CAN REACH PEOPLE BACK THERE, I THINK THAT THEY CAN GET REACHED A LOT QUICKER AT THAT WAY THAN BY SHORT WAVE RADIO ON RADIO FREE EUROPE. I REALLY

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  • 07:44:00 PM

    Senate Vote 130 - On the Motion to Table (motion to table bumpers amdt no 461)

    To eliminate funding for the market promotion program.

    Motion to Table Agreed to (61 - 37)
    Yea
    Nay

    Vote Details: Yea - 61
    Democratic - 24
    Republican - 37

    Vote Details: Nay - 35
    Democratic - 21
    Republican - 14

    Vote Details: Not Voting - 2
    Democratic - 1
    Republican - 1

  • 07:44:05 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    COLD WAR TIME. THEY COULD SEND OUT A NEWS FLASH AND SAY THE IRON CURTAIN…

    COLD WAR TIME. THEY COULD SEND OUT A NEWS FLASH AND SAY THE IRON CURTAIN HAS FALLEN, BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A PROGRAM THERE, WHICH USES SHORT WAVE RADIO AT A TIME WHEN EVEN IN THE FORMER COMMUNIST COUNTRIES, THEY ARE RECEIVING THEIR NEWS BY SATELLITE, BY OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, INCLUDING THE INTERNET, I FIND WHEN I GO ON THE INTERNET I CAN REACH PEOPLE BACK THERE, I THINK THAT THEY CAN GET REACHED A LOT QUICKER AT THAT WAY THAN BY SHORT WAVE RADIO ON RADIO FREE EUROPE. I REALLY

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  • 07:44:07 PM

    MR. LEAHY

    THEY COULD SEND OUT A NEWS FLASH AND SAY THE IRON CURTAIN HAS FALLEN, BUT…

    THEY COULD SEND OUT A NEWS FLASH AND SAY THE IRON CURTAIN HAS FALLEN, BUT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A PROGRAM THERE, WHICH USES SHORT WAVE RADIO AT A TIME WHEN EVEN IN THE FORMER COMMUNIST COUNTRIES, THEY ARE RECEIVING THEIR NEWS BY SATELLITE, BY OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, INCLUDING THE INTERNET, I FIND WHEN I GO ON THE INTERNET I CAN REACH PEOPLE BACK THERE, I THINK THAT THEY CAN GET REACHED A LOT QUICKER AT THAT WAY THAN BY SHORT WAVE RADIO ON RADIO FREE EUROPE. I REALLY CANNOT SEE WHEN WE ARE CUTTING OUT OUR OWN PUBLIC BROADCAST BEING, WHY WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS IN GERMANY. WHY WHETHER WE ARE CUTTING OUT OUR OWN BROADCASTING, SOMETHING PEOPLE IN MY STATE LIKE HE VERY MUCH, WHILE PERFECT E. WE ARE SPENDING HONEY ON PENSIONS AND HEALTH CARE AND WHATNOT FOR EUROPEANS. WE ARE SPENDING THINGS OVER THERE VIA THIS PROGRAM THAT WE WON'T DO IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. SO, FRANKLY, MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE HARKIN-LEAHY, ET AL, AMENDMENT, IT IS A MODEST ONE, BUT WOULD PUT MONEY BACK IN OUR OWN PUBLIC BROADCASTING, AND OUR OWN COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR OLDER MEN'S.

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  • 07:45:38 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ORIGINAL COULD SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT…

    ORIGINAL COULD SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 07:45:41 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO COVER THE GROUND IN LESS THAN TWO…

    CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO COVER THE GROUND IN LESS THAN TWO MINUTES. LET ME JUST MAKE THREE POINTS. I FIRST OF ALL WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS OF THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT, SECOND OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON REALLY I THINK THE KIND OF THE IMPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO RESTORE AS MUCH FUNDING AS POSSIBLE FOR PUBLIC TELEVISION, AND I GO BACK TO JUST ONE GATHERING IN APPLETON, MINNESOTA, IN SOUTHWEST, MINNESOTA, WHERE IT IS JUST CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT PUBLIC TV, THAT IT IS FAR FROM A SAND BOX FOR THE RICH.

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  • 07:45:51 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THREE POINTS. I FIRST OF ALL WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS OF…

    THREE POINTS. I FIRST OF ALL WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS OF THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT, SECOND OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON REALLY I THINK THE KIND OF THE IMPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO RESTORE AS MUCH FUNDING AS POSSIBLE FOR PUBLIC TELEVISION, AND I GO BACK TO JUST ONE GATHERING IN APPLETON, MINNESOTA, IN SOUTHWEST, MINNESOTA, WHERE IT IS JUST CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT PUBLIC TV, THAT IT IS FAR FROM A SAND BOX FOR THE RICH.

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  • 07:45:53 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    ALL WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS OF THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT,…

    ALL WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS OF THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT, SECOND OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON REALLY I THINK THE KIND OF THE IMPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO RESTORE AS MUCH FUNDING AS POSSIBLE FOR PUBLIC TELEVISION, AND I GO BACK TO JUST ONE GATHERING IN APPLETON, MINNESOTA, IN SOUTHWEST, MINNESOTA, WHERE IT IS JUST CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR ANY ONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT PUBLIC TV, THAT IT IS FAR FROM A SAND BOX FOR THE RICH. PUBLIC TELEVISION IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE ENRICHMENT OF LIVES OF THE CITIZENS IN OUR KUN HETRY, URBAN AN RURAL, BUT I THINK ESPECIALLY IN RURAL COMMUNITIES, IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. SECOND OF ALL, THE COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR OLDER AMERICANS PROGRAM IS A HUGE SUCCESS. AND THE WAY I DEFINE SUCCESS IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME ELDERLY PEOPLE, WHO, NUMBER ONE, IT IS KIND A MARRIAGE, ARE ABLE TO HAVE THE DIGNITY OF BEING ABLE TO WORK, AND NUMBER TWO, THEIR WORK IS IN SERVICE OF COMURNTE. WHETHER IT BE DELIVERY OF MEALS TO HOME BOUND, WERE IT BE TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN, WHETHER IT BE RECREATIONAL SERVICES, AND I REMEMBER IN TALKING WITH CITIZENS IN WILL MAR, MINNESOTA, YOU CAN -- YOU CAN GET A WONDERFUL FEEL FOR HOW IMPORTANT THIS PROGRAM IS ON THE BASIS OF INVESTMENT OF REALLY VERY FEW DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I'M IF FULL SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT, AND PROUD TO BE AN ORIGINAL COSPONSOR. A SENATOR:

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  • 07:47:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THIS AMENDMENT REPRESENTS THE COMPLICATED DILEMMAS THAT CAN BE PRESENTED…

    THIS AMENDMENT REPRESENTS THE COMPLICATED DILEMMAS THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO US. OF COURSE I AM IN FAVOR OF SENIOR CITIZENS AND I ALSO SUPPORT PUBLIC BROADCASTING, IN FACT I CONTRIBUTE AND HAVE CONTRIBUTE TED TO PUBLIC BROADCAST THROUGH THE YEARS.

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  • 07:47:52 PM

    MR. PRESSLER

    FIVE MINUTES.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HOW MUCH TIME WAS THERE ORIGINALLY?

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    MR. SPECTER

    TEN MINUTES.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MINUTES LEFT. THE SENATOR FROM DELAWARE TAKE TWO AND A HALF?

  • 07:53:21 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    DELAWARE TAKE TWO AND A HALF?

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CHARACTERIZATION OF MY FRIEND FROM IOWA IS BIZARRE. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE…

    CHARACTERIZATION OF MY FRIEND FROM IOWA IS BIZARRE. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS A C.I.A. PLOT

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  • 07:53:28 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    IOWA IS BIZARRE. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS A C.I.A. PLOT THAT IS…

    IOWA IS BIZARRE. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS A C.I.A. PLOT THAT IS STILL UNDERWAY. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST NOBLE UNDERTAKINGS THE WESTERN WORLD EVER ENGAGED IN. IF

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  • 07:53:35 PM

    MR. BIDEN

    ONE OF THE MOST NOBLE UNDERTAKINGS THE WESTERN WORLD EVER ENGAGED IN. IF…

    ONE OF THE MOST NOBLE UNDERTAKINGS THE WESTERN WORLD EVER ENGAGED IN. IF YOU EVER ASKED ANY PEOPLE IN EASTERN EUROPE FROM LECH WALESA TO OTHER LEADERS, HAS VESSEL AND OTHERS WHO IN FACT WHEN THE WALL CAME DOWN WERE THERE, THEY CREDIT RADIO FREE EUROPE OR RADIO LIBERTY MORE THAN ANY SINGLE THING. NUMBER TWO, IS IT FILL NEEDED? IT IS NEEDED NOW. THE ENEMY IS CENSORSHIP. IF YOU WONDER IF IT IS TRUE SOME OF US MET WITH GAZINSKY, THE GUY WHO HAS THE MEDIA EMPIRE IN RUSSIA WHO CRITICIZES THE CURRENT PRESIDENT. THEY ARE THREATENING TO TAKE DOWN THE CELL VISION STATIONS. THEY ARE TAKING DOWN THE RADIO AND TELEVISION, ACCESS TO THE NEWS FOR PEOPLE IN EVERYWHERE FROM SLOW VOCK YEAH THROUGH RUSSIA. THIRD THING IS, THIS NOTION THAT IT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. 25 MILLION PEOPLE STILL LISTEN TO IT, AS THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF NEWS IN EASTERN EUROPE AND RUSSIA. ANY ONE THINKS THAT DEMOCRACY HAS TAKEN ROOT AND THE FREE MARKET SYSTEM IS IN PLACE? THOSE AREAS, I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THEY TAKE ANOTHER CLOSE LOOK. AND THE NOTION THAT THEY CAN WATCH CNN, I SAY TOE MY FRIENDS, CNN IS IN ENGLISH, IT IS BROADCAST, IT CAN BE CENSORED, IT IN FACT CAN BE IMPACTED UPON, AND IT COMPLUNE INDICATES INTERNATIONAL NEWS, NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE COUNTRIES. AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS FULLY EMASCULATING THE ABILITY OF OUR RADIO FREE EUROPE OR RADIO LENGTH TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION. I AM A SUPPORTER AN UNABASHED SUPPORTER OF PUBLIC TELEVISION. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN IT IS NOW, BUT THIS IS LIKE HAVING THE HEARING IMPAIRED STEEL FROM THE -- STEEL FROM THE PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED OTHER OWE FROM THOSE WHO WEREN'T AREN'T ABLE TO WALK. THEY ARE PITTING TWO VERY IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, BUT WE SHOULD NOT UNDERMINE RADIO FREE EUROPE, AND RADIO LIBERTY, AND AGAIN, THOSE WHO THINK DEMOCRACY IS SECURE IN THOSE AREAS, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR HANDS, AND TELL ME THAT CENSOR SHIP IS STILL NOT THE SINGLE BIGGEST ENEMY OR THE PROSPECT FOR FREEDOM TO FLOURISH AND DEMOCRACY TO FLOURISH IN EASTERN AND CENTRAL EUROPE. THE LAST POINT I MAKE IT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPPOSED TO MY FRIEND FROM IOWA'S AMENDMENT, AND I HOPE THAT I HAVE DONE THIS WITHIN TWO AND A HALF MINUTES. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE REMAINDER OF MY STATEMENT BE PLACED IN RECORD AND THANK MY COLLEAGUE FROM PENNSYLVANIA. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM IOWA -- PENNSYLVANIA.

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  • 07:56:21 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, THE…

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF WHICH I AM THE CHAIRMAN, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON LABOR, HEALTH HUMAN RESOURCES AND EDUCATION, HAS MADE A VERY CAREFUL ALLOCATION, AND HAS IN FACT REZUSEED, CONSIDERABLY, THE RESCISSION BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR FISCAL YEAR 1996 AND 1997. THE

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  • 07:56:28 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    WHICH I AM THE CHAIRMAN, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON LABOR, HEALTH HUMAN RESOURCES…

    WHICH I AM THE CHAIRMAN, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON LABOR, HEALTH HUMAN RESOURCES AND EDUCATION, HAS MADE A VERY CAREFUL ALLOCATION, AND HAS IN FACT REZUSEED, CONSIDERABLY, THE RESCISSION BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR FISCAL YEAR 1996 AND 1997. THE HOUSE WANTED TO CUT PUBLIC BROADCASTING BY 47 -- DOLLAR 47 MILLION. HE WE LIMITED THE RESCISSION TO $26,360,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 1996. FOR FISCAL YEAR 1997, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WANTED THE CUT PUBLIC BROADCASTING BY $94 MILLION, AND OUR SUBCOMMITTEE LIMITED THAT RESCISSION TO $29,360,000, LEAVING PUBLIC BROADCASTING AT ITS CURRENT RATE OF $285,640,000. NOW THAT IS FAIRLY COMPLICATED AN ARITHMETIC, BUT WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO, IS THAT ON THE CURRENT MARK, THERE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO PUBLIC BROADCASTING. AND THE RESPONSES WHICH THE COMMITTEE HAS HEARD FROM THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC BROADCASTING IS A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT THEIR FUNDING HAS BEEN MAINTAINED AT ITS PRESENT LEVEL. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, BUT IN SETTING THERE MARK, WE FEEL THERE HAS BEEN A REALISTIC AND APPROPRIATE BALANCING OF PRIORITIES. WHETHER THE SENATOR FROM IOWA TALKS ABOUT EMPLOYMENT FOR OLDER AMERICANS, AND WOULD LIKE TO ADD FUNDING THERE, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE FINE TO ADD $14 MILLION ADDITIONALLY TO THE $410 MILLION WHICH THAT ACCOUNT NOW HAS. BUT HERE AGAIN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HAS MADE A VERY CARE FULL BALANCING OF PRIORITIES. IT IS POSSIBLE TO PICK A PART THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL IN A THOUSAND WAYS. AND TO TAKE ACCOUNTS WHICH SOUND WONDERFUL, LIKE OLDER AMERICANS, OR PUBLIC BROADCASTING, AND TAKE THEM FROM ACCOUNTS LIKE RADIO FREE EUROPE, WHICH MAKES A GREAT SOUND BITE, OR LOOKS COMPLICATED WHEN THE SUNDAY PAPERS REPRINT THE VOTE. BUT THIS HAS BEEN VERY, VERY CAREFULLY WORKED OUT. THE SENATOR, SENATOR BIDEN HAS MADE AS GOOD AN AGO OUT AS YOU CAN MAKE IN TWO AND A HALF MINUTES. I AM SORRY HE IS NOT ON THE FLOOR TO COULD PLEMT HIM, BECAUSE IT IS SELDOM THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN MAKES THAT GOOD OF AN ARGUMENT IN TWO AND A HALF MINUTES. USUALLY IT IS LONGER AND PROPORTIONATELY MAY NOT JUSTIFY THE TIME. I WISH HE WERE HERE TO REPLY TO THAT. IT IS WITH SOME RELUCTANT I OPPOSE MY COLLEAGUE SENATOR HARKIN WHO SERVES AS RANKING MEMBER ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR A VERY, VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME. BUT, AS THE ALLOCATIONS NOW STAND, THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE ALLOCATION AND BALANCING OF PRIORITIES. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK FOR HE -- UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR AND I ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. A SENATOR: WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR JUST A MOMENT? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO EXTENTED THIS DEBATE TORE TEN MINUTES TO BE EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN BOTH SIDES. THE PRESIDING

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  • 07:59:59 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MINUTES TO BE EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN BOTH SIDES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    MINUTES TO BE EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN BOTH SIDES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. SPECK PECK IF THE TIME IS EXTENDED FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEN. MR. HATFIELD: I WOULD YIELD TO THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA, TWO MINUTES MORE. MR. SPECTER: I WOULD WANT TO RESERVE TIME UNTIL I HEAR FROM SENATOR HARKIN IN REPLY IF I MADE. MR. HATFIELD:

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  • 08:00:13 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MORE. MR. SPECTER: I WOULD WANT TO RESERVE TIME UNTIL I HEAR FROM SENATOR…

    MORE. MR. SPECTER: I WOULD WANT TO RESERVE TIME UNTIL I HEAR FROM SENATOR HARKIN IN REPLY IF I MADE. MR. HATFIELD:

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  • 08:00:20 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    FROM SENATOR HARKIN IN REPLY IF I MADE. MR. HATFIELD: MR. PRESIDENT, TEN…

    FROM SENATOR HARKIN IN REPLY IF I MADE. MR. HATFIELD: MR. PRESIDENT, TEN MINUTES IS AGREED TO, FIVE ON EACH SIDE SPECK PECK I YIELD THE FLOOR AND A WILL REPLY TO WHATEVER ADDITIONAL ARGUMENTS ARE MADE. SIFME

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  • 08:00:25 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    TEN MINUTES IS AGREED TO, FIVE ON EACH SIDE SPECK PECK I YIELD THE FLOOR…

    TEN MINUTES IS AGREED TO, FIVE ON EACH SIDE SPECK PECK I YIELD THE FLOOR AND A WILL REPLY TO WHATEVER ADDITIONAL ARGUMENTS ARE MADE. SIFME SIME MR.

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  • 08:00:34 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    ARE MADE. SIFME SIME MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR…

    ARE MADE. SIFME SIME MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS.

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  • 08:00:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AS THE HOUSE IS. THAT IS NOT A GOOD…

    CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AS THE HOUSE IS. THAT IS NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT. AND

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  • 08:00:50 PM

    MR. SIMON

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE SENATOR HAS TEN MINUTES, 39 SECONDS…

    WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE SENATOR HAS TEN MINUTES, 39 SECONDS REMAINING. THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS.

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  • 08:03:27 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. BUMPERS

    KEEP A SEMBLANCE OF CULTURE, DECENCY, AND CIVILITY IN THIS NATION. THE…

    KEEP A SEMBLANCE OF CULTURE, DECENCY, AND CIVILITY IN THIS NATION. THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS SPOKE JUST BEFORE I DID. AND HE TALKED WITHOUT GIVING A SPECIFIC NUMBERS, ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR CHILDREN FROM THE TIME THEY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, WILL SEE 18,000 MURDERS , TO SAY NOTHING OF THE OTHER UNSPEAKABLE VIOLENCE THEY THEY ARE GOING TO SEE ON NETWORK TELEVISION. WE HAVE GRAPPLED IN THE THAT WITH HOW DO YOU CONTROL SENATE? IN LIGHT OF THE FREE SPEECH PROVISIONS OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. AND NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I WAS TALKING TO A SENATOR'S WIFE ABOUT A WEEK AGO. AND THIS CAME UP. AND SHE SAID, "YOU KNOW, DALE, WE DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO CABLE AT OUR HOUSE. WE HAVE A IS-YEAR-OLD SON. WE DON'T WANT HIM EXPOSED TO MTV." I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE AMAZING NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DEPLORE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE WATCHING ON TELEVISION. SOME OF THEM ARE OPTING, AS SHE DID, NOT TO TAKE CABLE. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT ONE THING, THIS IS NOT THE FINAL, DEFINITIVE DEBATE ON THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT ONE THING, THERE IS AN ASSAULT -- THERE IS AN ASSAULT ON THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS ON PUBLIC BROADCASTING. I'M WITH BIG BIRD. HE SAID THE OTHER DAY, NEWT GINGRICH BETTER NOT COME DOWN ON SESAME STREET WITHOUT A BODYGUARD. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HEAR THE ARGUMENT, "THEY CAN PRIVATIZE. LET THEM DO LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES." LET ME ASK YOU THIS: THAT MAGNIFICENT, UNPRECEDENTED SERIES ON THE CIVIL WAR, SO POIGNANT, EVERY AMERICAN -- 14% OF TELEVISION SETS TUNED TO IT. I PROMISE YOU, MOST AMERICANS WERE IN TEARS WATCHING, BUT ABOVE ALL, LEARNING ABOUT THE MOST DEFINING MOMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. 13 HOURS ON PUBLIC BROADCASTING. CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING WATCHED THAT AND BEING INTERRUPTED EVERY FIVE MINUTES WITH A CAR BEING DROPPED ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN TOP OR A BUDWEISER BEER COMMERCIAL? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? I CANNOT BELIEVE -- I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS DEBATE IS TAKING PLACE. IF THE SENATOR FROM IOWA PREVAILS ON HIS AMENDMENT THERE WILL BE $175 MILLION LEFT FOR RADIO FREE EUROPE ACCOUNT. THAT IS $100 MILLION MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT REQUESTED. AND IF THE SENATOR FROM IOWA PREVAILS, WE WILL STILL BE $29 MILLION SHORT ON WHAT PUBLIC BROADCASTING WAS SUPPOSED TO GET. MR. PRESIDENT, HOW MANY TIMES DURING THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT DID YOU HEAR THE ARGUMENT, "SENATOR, HOW CAN YOU VOTE AGAINST THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT? 70% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAVOR IT. YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE." TO THE PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE PREPARED TO VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT OF THE SENATOR FROM IOWA, LET ME REMIND YOU, BETWEEN 65% AND 70% OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY DO NOT WANT THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING TO BE CUT. IS IT FOR DIITANCE? THE STATISTICS SHOW THAT OPERA, WHICH IS BORG TO MOST PEOPLE -- I HAPPEN TO LIKE IT -- BUT THE AVERAGE SALARY OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY WHO WATCH OPERA MAKE $40,000 A YEAR. WHERE ELSE COULD THEY SEE IT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. MR. BUMPERS: ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE. WHERE ELSE COULD THEY SEE CARRIAGE COWANATA, ALL THOSE MAGNIFICENT VOICES? ARE THEY TO BE SILENCED? ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD ARE WILLING TO SPEND UP TO $38 PER HOUSEHOLD FOR THE VERY SAME THING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING $1.09

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  • 08:08:15 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WE GOING TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD…

    WE GOING TO SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD ARE WILLING TO SPEND UP TO $38 PER HOUSEHOLD FOR THE VERY SAME THING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING $1.09

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  • 08:08:17 PM

    MR. BUMPERS

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD ARE WILLING TO SPEND…

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD ARE WILLING TO SPEND UP TO $38 PER HOUSEHOLD FOR THE VERY SAME THING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING $1.09 FOR. I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT MORALE IS PRETTY LOW ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE. WE ARE DEMOCRATS. WE ARE NOT HAVING A VERY GOOD TIME. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN I ASSAULT ON THINGS LIKE THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO, I NEVER MOVE MY RADIO OFF N.P.R. WHEN I GET IN THAT'S WHAT'S IN IT AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T WANT ALL THOSE COMMERCIALS INTERRUPTING IT. I WANT A DEFINITIVE, HONEST-TO-GOODNESS, ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE WORLD. BUT, MR. PRESIDENT -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE REMAINING MINUTE HAS EXPIRED. MR. BUMPERS: I THANK THE SENATOR FOR YIELDING. AND I YIELD THE FLOOR.

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  • 08:09:29 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. BUMPERS

    EACH SIDE. MR. HARKIN: I YIELD MYSELF THREE MINUTES.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    -- I WILL THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE SPOKEN SO ELOQUENTLY ON THIS…

    -- I WILL THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE SPOKEN SO ELOQUENTLY ON THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO AGAIN THANK AND CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A TRULY OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING THE PROVISIONS THROUGH ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HE HAS, HAVING BEEN IN THAT POSITION I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH JOB.

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  • 08:09:45 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    ON THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO AGAIN THANK AND CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE,…

    ON THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT TO AGAIN THANK AND CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A TRULY OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING THE PROVISIONS THROUGH ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HE HAS, HAVING BEEN IN THAT POSITION I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH JOB.

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  • 08:09:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AGAIN THANK AND CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A…

    AGAIN THANK AND CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A TRULY OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING THE PROVISIONS THROUGH ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HE HAS, HAVING BEEN IN THAT POSITION I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH JOB.

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  • 08:09:49 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A TRULY OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING…

    COLLEAGUE, SENATOR SPECTER, FOR DOING A TRULY OUTSTANDING JOB IN GETTING THE PROVISIONS THROUGH ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HE HAS, HAVING BEEN IN THAT POSITION I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH JOB. A THANKLESS JOB. I WANT THE COMMEND HIM FOR IT, FOR ALL THE WORK HE'S DONE. AND HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB. I SUPPORT HIM IN THAT EFFORT. I WOULD JUST POINT OUT, HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE THE RADIO FREE EUROPE IS NOT IN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, SO I'M NOT HANGING THAT ON HIS HEAD. THAT WAS IN ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE. SO, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT RADIO FREE ROP. MR. PRESIDENT, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT -- FREE EUROPE. I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT SENATORS HAVE -- I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS. I WILL PUT IT IN THE RECORD. THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT WAS AGREED UPON FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF RADIO FREE EUROPE , BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW MOVING TO PRAGUE, CZECHOSLOVAKIA, YOU OUGHT TO READ IT. LET ME READ YOU A COUPLE OF THEM. "EMPLOYEES HAVING CHILDREN SHALL RECEIVE ONE-TIME PAYMENTS IN THE FOLLOWING AMOUNTS: ONE MONTH OF GROSS SALARY BUT IN NO EVENT MORE THAN MARC, $7,500 FOR EVERY DEPENDENT CHILD NO OLD THAN AGE 27." HOW ABOUT THAT? EMPLOYEES TERMINATED AS OF JULY 30, 1994, SHALL RECEIVE SCHOOL FEES FOR THE CHILDREN TO GO TO SCHOOL, $10,000 MARX PER CHILD SO THEY CAN GO TO SCHOOL, THAT'S $7,500 A YEAR. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? THIS IS CRIMINAL. TALK ABOUT A GOLDEN PARACHUTE. AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE SAYING WE WILL CUT BROADCASTING FOR BIG BIRD AND KIDS IN OUR COUNTRY? WHAT NONSENSE. MY FRIEND FROM DELAWARE TALKS ABOUT CENSORSHIP. IF THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR GUIDING LIGHT, LET'S START RADIO FREE ASIA, AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA.

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  • 08:12:03 PM

    MR. BIDEN

    WE HAVE THE VOICE OF AMERICA. NOW, HE TALKED ABOUT LECH WALESA. I

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    MR. HARKIN

    AMERICA. NOW, HE TALKED ABOUT LECH WALESA. I HAVE STIMTEMENTS FROM OTHER…

    AMERICA. NOW, HE TALKED ABOUT LECH WALESA. I HAVE STIMTEMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT I'LL PUT IN THE RECORD TELLING ABOUT HOW VOICE OF AMERICA, THE PRESENT PRIME MINISTER OF ALBANIA, SAYING IT WAS THE VOICE OF AMERICA THAT BROUGHT THEM THROUGH, NOT RADIO FREE EUROPE. SECONDLY, MR. PRESIDENT, HERE IS A LIST -- I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO PUT THESE IN THE RECORD -- OF EVERY COUNTRY IN EASTERN EUROPE AND WITH ALL OF THE RADIO AND TV STATIONS THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT ARE OPERATING. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO PUT THAT IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. HARKIN: THE SENATOR FROM DELAWARE SAYS THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPPOSED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE TIME IS EXPIRED.

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  • 08:12:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MORE SECONDS. HERE IS THE O.M.B. PASSED BUDGET OF 1994. PRESIDENTIAL…

    MORE SECONDS. HERE IS THE O.M.B. PASSED BUDGET OF 1994. PRESIDENTIAL DECISIONS. THE

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  • 08:12:59 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    OF 1994. PRESIDENTIAL DECISIONS. THE PASSED BACK INCLUDES SOME SPECIFIC…

    OF 1994. PRESIDENTIAL DECISIONS. THE PASSED BACK INCLUDES SOME SPECIFIC POLICY ISSUES THAT WERE PERSONALLY REVIEWED AND DECIDED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CANNOT BE CHANGED. P.I.B.,

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  • 08:13:03 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    POLICY ISSUES THAT WERE PERSONALLY REVIEWED AND DECIDED BY THE PRESIDENT…

    POLICY ISSUES THAT WERE PERSONALLY REVIEWED AND DECIDED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CANNOT BE CHANGED. P.I.B.,

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  • 08:13:06 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    THE TIME IS EXPIRED. MR. HARKIN: THE $75 MILLION AND WHAT IS HERE IS $100…

    THE TIME IS EXPIRED. MR. HARKIN: THE $75 MILLION AND WHAT IS HERE IS $100 MILLION MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT ASKED FOR.

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  • 08:13:37 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WILL THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA YIELD ME TWO MINUTES?

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    MR. HARKIN

    I DO.

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    MR. BIDEN

    AND IT IS BECAUSE IN REGARD TO RADIO FREE EUROPE OR LIBERTY, A, THE…

    AND IT IS BECAUSE IN REGARD TO RADIO FREE EUROPE OR LIBERTY, A, THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPPOSED NOW. I'LL

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  • 08:13:51 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    OR LIBERTY, A, THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPPOSED NOW. I'LL SUBMIT THE LETTER…

    OR LIBERTY, A, THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPPOSED NOW. I'LL SUBMIT THE LETTER FOR THE RECORD.

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  • 08:13:54 PM

    MR. BIDEN

    SUBMIT THE LETTER FOR THE RECORD. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE PUT…

    SUBMIT THE LETTER FOR THE RECORD. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE PUT IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 08:14:10 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    HAPPENED IS WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THE RADIOS. WE CUT THE KUFT. THE

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    MR. BIDEN

    RADIOS. WE CUT THE KUFT. THE REASON IT WAS $175 MILLION AND $100 MILLION…

    RADIOS. WE CUT THE KUFT. THE REASON IT WAS $175 MILLION AND $100 MILLION MORE IS THAT IS WHAT IT COST THE ELIMINATE IF RADIO, WHAT IT COST UNDER GERMAN LAW. WE ARE BOUND UNDER GERMAN LAW. WHEN WE LAY OFF PEOPLE AND FIRE PEOPLE UNDER GERMAN LAW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THIS SEVERANCE PAY. THAT IS THE REASON WHY IT IS MORE MONEY THIS YEAR AND BACK TO $75 MILLION NEXT YEAR. THIRDLY I WOIN WOULD POINT OUT TO MY FRIEND FROM IOWA, HE DID VOTE FOR AND WE DID VOTE FOR RADIO FREE ASIA. THAT IS WHAT WE DID. BECAUSE THERE IS CENSORSHIP, BECAUSE THERE IS A GERONTOCRACY THERE THAT DOES NOT LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR POINT OF VIEW. WE DID DO THAT. SO HE IS AHEAD OF HIMSELF WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT. WE DID, IN FACT, VOTE AND HAVE VOTED TO GUARANTEE THAT WHERE THERE'S CENSORSHIP IN WORLD WE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE EXTENT WE CAN. SO, CHAIRMAN -- MR. PRESIDENT, IF WE DON'T SEND TROOPS AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEND MONEY AND NOT GOING TO SEND INFORMATION AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEND ACCESS TO THE TRUTH, WHAT IN THE HECK ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND I RESENT THE FACT THAT THIS IS BEING PITTED AGAINST PUBLIC TELEVISION. IT IS -- THE REASON PUBLIC TELEVISION IS CUT IS NOT BECAUSE OF RADIO FREE EUROPE. AND WE REACHED THE POINT --

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  • 08:15:51 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THREE MINUTES AND 9 SECONDS REMAIN. MR. SPECTER: HOW MUCH FOR THE…

    THREE MINUTES AND 9 SECONDS REMAIN. MR. SPECTER: HOW MUCH FOR THE OPPOSITION? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ONE MINUTE, 32 SECONDS. BUT

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  • 08:15:55 PM

    MR. BIDEN

    MUCH FOR THE OPPOSITION? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ONE MINUTE, 32 SECONDS.…

    MUCH FOR THE OPPOSITION? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ONE MINUTE, 32 SECONDS. BUT THE SENATOR FROM IOWA YIELDED BACK HIS TIME. I

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  • 08:16:01 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FROM IOWA YIELDED BACK HIS TIME. I THOUGHT YOU DID. PARDON ME. AND IN THAT…

    FROM IOWA YIELDED BACK HIS TIME. I THOUGHT YOU DID. PARDON ME. AND IN THAT EVENT, 1 MINUTE, 32 SECONDS REMAINS. MR. SPECTER:

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  • 08:16:06 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    ME. AND IN THAT EVENT, 1 MINUTE, 32 SECONDS REMAINS. MR. SPECTER:

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    1 MINUTE, 32 SECONDS REMAINS. MR. SPECTER: MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD MYSELF…

    1 MINUTE, 32 SECONDS REMAINS. MR. SPECTER: MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD MYSELF TWO MINUTES. WHEN THE ARGUMENT IS MADE BY THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS THAT THERE IS AN ASSAULT ON PUBLIC BROADCASTING, I WOULD REMIND HIM THAT THE MAJOR ASSAULT IS ON THE DEFICIT. AND

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  • 08:16:22 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    I WOULD REMIND HIM THAT THE MAJOR ASSAULT IS ON THE DEFICIT. AND AS…

    I WOULD REMIND HIM THAT THE MAJOR ASSAULT IS ON THE DEFICIT. AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE LOOKED AT $5.9 BILLION IN RESCISSIONS BY THE HOUSE. AND WE REDUCED THAT TO $3,05,000,000 AND ASKED BROADCASTING, PUBLIC BROADCASTING TO TAKE A FAIR SHARE, LEAVING THEM WITH THE SAME AMOUNT THEY HAD LAST YEAR. AND THAT HAS RECEIVEED THE COMMENTS OF GRATITUDE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO FUNCTION WITHOUT THE LARGER CUTS RECOMMENDED BY THE HOUSE. THE AMENDMENT IS AN ATTRACTIVE ONE, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THEY MOVE INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE WITH OLDER AMERICANS. BUT THAT ACCOUNT ALREADY HAS $410 MILLION. SO THE $14 MILLION ADDITIONAL, WHILE MAKING THIS AMENDMENT LOOK ATTRACTIVE, IS REALLY NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THE OVERALL PICTURE. THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM DELAWARE HAS SPOKEN ABOUT RADIO FREE EUROPE. BUT I THINK THE POINT HAS NOT BALANCED BUDGET MADE THAT THE $229 MILLION IS BEING REDUCED NEXT YEAR TO $75 MILLION. AND $7 MILLION HAS BEEN ADDED THIS YEAR FOR CONSOLIDATION AND WINDDOWN PURPOSES. MY COLLEAGUE FROM IOWA, WHO WAS CHAIRMAN AND IS NOW RANKING MEMBER, WORKED WITH ME OVER THESE SHEETS. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND HIS INTEREST IN WANTING MORE MONEY FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING. AND I UNDERSTAND THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS WHO HAS DONE OUTSTANDING WORK TO TRY TO COMBAT VIOLENCE ON TELEVISION. BUT THIS IS A FAIR ALLOCATION. AND IF WE ARE GOING TO REACH A BALANCED BUDGET -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR'S TWO MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED. MR. SPECTER: I YIELD MYSELF ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE. IF WE ARE TO REACH THE BALANCED BUDGET BY THE YEAR 2002, THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FAIR SHARE REDUCTION ON MANY ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND I

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  • 08:18:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FAIR SHARE REDUCTION ON MANY ITEMS WHICH WE…

    THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FAIR SHARE REDUCTION ON MANY ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND I

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  • 08:18:23 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    ON MANY ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND I THINK IT IS A FAIR…

    ON MANY ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND I THINK IT IS A FAIR SUBMISSION THAT THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING IS ABLE TO TIGHTEN ITS BELT AND DO THE JOB WITHIN THE PARAMETER OF THE EXISTING BUDGET SO ADDITIONAL FUNDS SHOULD NOT BE ADDED AT THE EXPENSE OF ANOTHER WORTHWHILE ACCOUNT. I YIELD THE FLOOR AND RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. MR. BIDEN: CAN I HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SECONDS? I WOULD LIKE THE POINT OUT IN THE DOLE-DASCHLE COMPROMISE WE ARE CUTTING BY $35 MILLION THE RADIOS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS ALREADY BEEN CUT.

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  • 08:19:03 PM

    MR. BIDEN

    THE SENATOR FROM IOWA.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE BROADCAST OF AMERICA IS BROADCASTING ALL OVER THE WORLD, CHINA, EUROPE.

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    MR. HARKIN

    THE WORLD, CHINA, EUROPE. THE PRIME MINISTER OF ALBANIA SAID IT WAS VOICE…

    THE WORLD, CHINA, EUROPE. THE PRIME MINISTER OF ALBANIA SAID IT WAS VOICE OF AMERICA, NOT RADIO FREE EUROPE, THEY LISTENED TO. PLUS

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  • 08:19:29 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE PRIME MINISTER OF ALBANIA SAID IT WAS VOICE OF AMERICA, NOT RADIO FREE…

    THE PRIME MINISTER OF ALBANIA SAID IT WAS VOICE OF AMERICA, NOT RADIO FREE EUROPE, THEY LISTENED TO. PLUS

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  • 08:19:33 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    AMERICA, NOT RADIO FREE EUROPE, THEY LISTENED TO. PLUS WE HAVE B.B.C.,…

    AMERICA, NOT RADIO FREE EUROPE, THEY LISTENED TO. PLUS WE HAVE B.B.C., INTERMAINE RADIO. THEY HAVE OTHER BROADCASTS. IT IS A QUESTION OF CHOICES. I WOULD POINT OUT THIS IS DEFICIT-NEUTRAL. THIS DOESN'T INCREASE THE DEFICIT. BUT THE CHOICE IS JUST THIS, ARE WE GOING TO PRIVATIZE THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING OR ARE WE GOING TO PRIVATIZE RADIO FREE YOUR ROP? WE HAVE A PACKAGE FOR THE HER GNS OR JOBS FOR OUR SENIOR CITIZENS IN AMERICA? I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT DOLE SUBSTITUTE HAD $98 MILLION CUT IN RADIO FREE EUROPE, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IN OURS. LASTLY, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD POINT OUT AGAIN THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDES FOR $26 MILLION MORE FOR THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING. IT ALSO PROVIDES $14 MILLION FOR THE SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM. AND I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO PUT AT THE END OF MY REMARKS SOME SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS REGARDING THE SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM? SO AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT, THE CHOICE IS CLEAR -- ARE WE GOING THE SPEND OUR TAXPAYERS DOLLARS FOR RADIO FREE EUROPE WHEN THE VOICE OF AMERICA IS ALREADY BROADCASTING OR BRING THAT MONEY HERE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE PUBLIC BROAD CASTING AND JOBS FOR OUR SENIORS. MR. SPECTER: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S BEEN A LIVELY DEBATE. I THINK ALL OF THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN AIRED. I THINK THE ACCOUNTS AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND EXPRESS APPROPRIATE PRIORITIES AS BEST WE CAN DETERMINE THEM.

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  • 08:21:09 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    AS BEST WE CAN DETERMINE THEM. AND I MOVE THE TABLE THE HARKIN AMENDMENT.…

    AS BEST WE CAN DETERMINE THEM. AND I MOVE THE TABLE THE HARKIN AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MOTION THE TABLE IS NOT IN ORDER. BY UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT --

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  • 08:21:24 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESENT. I WITHDRAW THE MOTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT'S CORRECT. THE…

    PRESENT. I WITHDRAW THE MOTION. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT'S CORRECT. THE SENATOR FROM IOWA. MR. HARKIN: I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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  • 08:21:30 PM

    MR. SPECTER

    ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE A SUFFICIENT SECOND. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER ALL YEAS AN NAY VOTES…

    BE A SUFFICIENT SECOND. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER ALL YEAS AN NAY VOTES WILL BE STACKED. FOR

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  • 08:21:41 PM

    MR. HARKIN

    YEAS AN NAY VOTES WILL BE STACKED. FOR

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WILL BE STACKED. FOR OTHER AMENDMENTS. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE…

    WILL BE STACKED. FOR OTHER AMENDMENTS. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.

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  • 08:21:59 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    -- LET ME TURN THAT AROUND. MAY I INQUIRE TO THE -- OF THE CHAIR THE NAMES…

    -- LET ME TURN THAT AROUND. MAY I INQUIRE TO THE -- OF THE CHAIR THE NAMES OF THE LIST OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE INCORPORATED IN THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE WELLSTONE SENIORS AMENDMENT, THE HATFIELD-BYRD MANAGER AMENDMENT AND THE HARKIN ADD-BACK FOR THE CORPORATION OF PUBLIC BROAD CASTING ALONG WITH THE SENIORS EMPLOYMENT. MR.

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  • 08:22:02 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    MAY I INQUIRE TO THE -- OF THE CHAIR THE NAMES OF THE LIST OF THE…

    MAY I INQUIRE TO THE -- OF THE CHAIR THE NAMES OF THE LIST OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE INCORPORATED IN THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE WELLSTONE SENIORS AMENDMENT, THE HATFIELD-BYRD MANAGER AMENDMENT AND THE HARKIN ADD-BACK FOR THE CORPORATION OF PUBLIC BROAD CASTING ALONG WITH THE SENIORS EMPLOYMENT. MR.

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  • 08:22:24 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WITH THE SENIORS EMPLOYMENT. MR. HATFIELD: AS FAR AS DISPOSITION OR IN THE…

    WITH THE SENIORS EMPLOYMENT. MR. HATFIELD: AS FAR AS DISPOSITION OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DISPOSED, WE HAVE THE WELLSTONE AMENDMENT AND THE MANAGERS' WRAPUP AMENDMENT?

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  • 08:22:37 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    OFFICER: THAT'S CORRECT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ARE NOW PUTTING THAT TOGETHER WITH THE MANAGERS WRAPUP. AND THEREFORE, I…

    ARE NOW PUTTING THAT TOGETHER WITH THE MANAGERS WRAPUP. AND THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD COMPLETE THE BUSINESS AT THIS POINT AS FAR AS AMENDMENTS ARE CONCERNED. IS

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  • 08:22:53 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    QUORUM CALL.

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    MR. WELLSTONE

    JUST WANT TO THANK SENATOR HATFIELD FOR HIS GRACIOUSNESS IN OUR…

    JUST WANT TO THANK SENATOR HATFIELD FOR HIS GRACIOUSNESS IN OUR NEGOTIATION. AND I WANTED TO SAY TO THE SENATOR AND TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS PROGRAM, THE INSURANCE INFORMATION COUNSELING AND ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM, AGAIN IS A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN EVERY SINGLE STATE WITH SENIORS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE FROM TRAINED VOLUNTEERS IN DEALING WITH ALL THE MEDICARE FORMS AND THE MEDIGAP POLICIES TO PROVIDE REALLY GOOD PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE.

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  • 08:23:21 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    AND I WANTED TO SAY TO THE SENATOR AND TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS PROGRAM,…

    AND I WANTED TO SAY TO THE SENATOR AND TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS PROGRAM, THE INSURANCE INFORMATION COUNSELING AND ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM, AGAIN IS A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN EVERY SINGLE STATE WITH SENIORS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE FROM TRAINED VOLUNTEERS IN DEALING WITH ALL THE MEDICARE FORMS AND THE MEDIGAP POLICIES TO PROVIDE REALLY GOOD PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE.

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  • 08:23:24 PM

    MR. WELLSTONE

    SENATOR AND TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS PROGRAM, THE INSURANCE INFORMATION…

    SENATOR AND TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS PROGRAM, THE INSURANCE INFORMATION COUNSELING AND ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM, AGAIN IS A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN EVERY SINGLE STATE WITH SENIORS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE FROM TRAINED VOLUNTEERS IN DEALING WITH ALL THE MEDICARE FORMS AND THE MEDIGAP POLICIES TO PROVIDE REALLY GOOD PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE. IT IS A PROGRAM WITH VERY LITTLE BY WAY OF MONEY. IT HAS GONE A LONG WAYS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE FROM OREGON FOR ALL HIS HELP. MR. HATFIELD: MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE SENATOR. MR. FORD: WOULD THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN YIELD FOR A QUESTION? MR. HATFIELD: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD. MR. FORD: THE ONLY AMENDMENT LEFT NOW WILL BE THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:24:11 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    WILL BE THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT. WHEN WILL THAT AMENDMENT BE PREPARED TO…

    WILL BE THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT. WHEN WILL THAT AMENDMENT BE PREPARED TO BE INTRODEUCED AND HOW MUCH TIME WILL IT TAKE FOR THAT AMENDMENT? COULD I ASK OF THE GOOD SENATOR?

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  • 08:24:13 PM

    MR. FORD

    WHEN WILL THAT AMENDMENT BE PREPARED TO BE INTRODEUCED AND HOW MUCH TIME…

    WHEN WILL THAT AMENDMENT BE PREPARED TO BE INTRODEUCED AND HOW MUCH TIME WILL IT TAKE FOR THAT AMENDMENT? COULD I ASK OF THE GOOD SENATOR?

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  • 08:24:17 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    TIME WILL IT TAKE FOR THAT AMENDMENT? COULD I ASK OF THE GOOD SENATOR?

  • 08:24:20 PM

    MR. FORD

    I ASK OF THE GOOD SENATOR?

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    MR. HATFIELD

    WILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN THAT WRAPUP. SENATOR WELLSTONE WILL HAVE ONE,…

    WILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN THAT WRAPUP. SENATOR WELLSTONE WILL HAVE ONE, SENATOR JEFFORDS WILL HAVE ONE. IN EACH CASE, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD SAY TO THE SENATOR, THE DEMOCRATIC WHIP, THAT EACH OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE IN THE WRAPUP ARE TOTALLY OFFSET AMENDMENTS. SO THEY DIDN'T ADD TO THE DEFICIT. AND THEY ARE -- HAVE BEEN CLEARED ON BOTH SIDES. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES.

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  • 08:25:11 PM

    MR. FORD

    ONLY THING I WAS TRYING THE DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH LONGER IT WOULD BE…

    ONLY THING I WAS TRYING THE DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH LONGER IT WOULD BE AND WHEN YOU THINK THE VOTES WILL BE OCCURRING? MR. MCCAIN: I WOULD LIKE THE MAKE ABOUT A FOUR-MINUTE STATEMENT.

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  • 08:25:31 PM

    MR. MCCAIN

    A MANAGERS' AMENDMENT IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. MR. FORD: I THANK THE CHAIRMAN…

    A MANAGERS' AMENDMENT IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. MR. FORD: I THANK THE CHAIRMAN VERY MUCH.

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  • 08:25:34 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    NOW,

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    MR. FORD

    FOR A TECHNICAL CORRECTION. WE HAD CLEARED THE LEVIN AMENDMENT, NUMBER…

    FOR A TECHNICAL CORRECTION. WE HAD CLEARED THE LEVIN AMENDMENT, NUMBER 578, BUT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CORRECT DRAFTING ERROR BY MODIFYING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT I NOW SEND TO DESK. WHAT

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  • 08:25:47 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    CLEARED THE LEVIN AMENDMENT, NUMBER 578, BUT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO…

    CLEARED THE LEVIN AMENDMENT, NUMBER 578, BUT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CORRECT DRAFTING ERROR BY MODIFYING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT I NOW SEND TO DESK. WHAT

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  • 08:25:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AMENDMENT, NUMBER 578, BUT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CORRECT DRAFTING…

    AMENDMENT, NUMBER 578, BUT I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CORRECT DRAFTING ERROR BY MODIFYING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT I NOW SEND TO DESK. WHAT

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  • 08:25:52 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    BY MODIFYING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT I NOW SEND TO DESK. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS…

    BY MODIFYING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT I NOW SEND TO DESK. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE ON PAGE 9, LINE 12, STRIKING ONE FIGURE, $37 MILLION, PUTTING $25 MILLION IN, ONE FIGURE $25 MILLION, $AND THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE BASIC CONTENT BUT IT WAS INACCURATELY DRAFTED. AND I WOULD ASK IT TO BE ADOPTED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT IS SO MODIFIED. NOW HATFIELD: NOW, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WILL APPEAR WITHIN OUR WRAPUP PACKAGE. NOW IT IS CORRECTED. IT IS MUCH EASIER TO CORRECTED IT NOW THAN DOWN THE LINE. THAT IS

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  • 08:26:22 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IT NOW THAN DOWN THE LINE. THAT IS WHY I TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT AT THIS…

    IT NOW THAN DOWN THE LINE. THAT IS WHY I TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT AT THIS MOMENT. I YIELD THE FLOOR.

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  • 08:26:41 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    LONG IN ITS JUSTTATION PERIOD TODAY AND YESTERDAY.

  • 08:26:44 PM

    MR. MCCAIN

    THE SENATOR'S FOUR MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED. MR. MCCAIN: I DIDN'T ASK FOR…

    THE SENATOR'S FOUR MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED. MR. MCCAIN: I DIDN'T ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASKED --

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  • 08:31:13 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

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    MR. MCCAIN

    TWO MINUTES? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY FOR TAKING SO MUCH TIME. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS…

    MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY FOR TAKING SO MUCH TIME. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORT THAT WAS MADE BY THE FRESHMEN SENATORS. I THINK

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  • 08:31:24 PM

    MR. MCCAIN

    TIME. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORT THAT…

    TIME. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORT THAT WAS MADE BY THE FRESHMEN SENATORS. I THINK

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  • 08:31:29 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WAS MADE BY THE FRESHMEN SENATORS. I THINK IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THEY…

    WAS MADE BY THE FRESHMEN SENATORS. I THINK IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THEY DIDN'T SUCCEED. I

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  • 08:31:31 PM

    MR. MCCAIN

    SENATORS. I THINK IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THEY DIDN'T SUCCEED. I WOULD…

    SENATORS. I THINK IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THEY DIDN'T SUCCEED. I WOULD URGE THEM TO CONTINUE IN THEIR EFFORTS BECAUSE I THINK THEY BEST REFLECT THE VIEWS, ASPIRATIONINGS AND HOPES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS EXPRESSED ON NOVEMBER 8. I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THIS SO-CALLED COMPROMISE. I HOPE IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD NOT AGREE TO SUCH COMPROMISES AGAIN. MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

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  • 08:38:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. MR. KENNEDY: I ASK FURTHER PROCEEDINGS…

    THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. MR. KENNEDY: I ASK FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM BE SUSPENDED.

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  • 08:40:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    WILL JUST TAKE ONE OR TWO MOMENTS AT THIS TIME PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT…

    WILL JUST TAKE ONE OR TWO MOMENTS AT THIS TIME PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FINAL VOTE ON THIS ISSUE ON THE RESCISSIONS. FIRST

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  • 08:40:50 PM

    MR. KENNEDY

    AT THIS TIME PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FINAL VOTE ON…

    AT THIS TIME PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FINAL VOTE ON THIS ISSUE ON THE RESCISSIONS. FIRST

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  • 08:40:54 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    TO HAVE A FINAL VOTE ON THIS ISSUE ON THE RESCISSIONS. FIRST

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    MR. KENNEDY

    MR. PRESIDENT?

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    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    VOTING BY NOW. COULD I BE ADVISED OF WHY WE'RE STILL TALKING?

  • 08:48:19 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I BE ADVISED OF WHY WE'RE STILL TALKING?

  • 08:48:23 PM

    MR. DOLE

    WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO BE OFFERED, THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT.…

    WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO BE OFFERED, THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT. MR. DOLE: IS ANYBODY ENTITLED TO TIME ON THE MANAGERS' AMENDMENT OR ARE THE MANAGERS ENTITLED TO TIME?

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  • 08:48:35 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OR ARE THE MANAGERS ENTITLED TO TIME?

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    MR. DOLE

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    NIGHT, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN THE MORNING IF WE…

    NIGHT, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN THE MORNING IF WE CAN'T GET THIS DONE IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

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  • 08:48:58 PM

    MR. DOLE

    DONE IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. IT'S ABOUT 10:00. MOST EVERYBODY IS HERE…

    DONE IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. IT'S ABOUT 10:00. MOST EVERYBODY IS HERE TOMORROW, AND WE'LL COME BACK -- IF WE CAN'T CONCLUDE THIS -- COME BACK TOMORROW MORNING. IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK, LET THEM TALK. WE'LL COME BACK TOMORROW. MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN: MR. PRESIDENT?

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  • 08:49:23 PM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    HAVING TO DO WITH THE D.C. CONTROL BOARD, ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE…

    HAVING TO DO WITH THE D.C. CONTROL BOARD, ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS FUND AND ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE DASCHLE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:49:25 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    D.C. CONTROL BOARD, ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT…

    D.C. CONTROL BOARD, ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS FUND AND ANOTHER HAVING TO DO WITH THE DASCHLE AMENDMENT.

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  • 08:49:27 PM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IF THE SENATOR WILL WITHHOLD, THE CHAIR WILL MAKE…

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IF THE SENATOR WILL WITHHOLD, THE CHAIR WILL MAKE -- THE MAJORITY LEADER.

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  • 08:49:46 PM

    MS. MOSELEY-BRAUN

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IF THE SENATOR WILL WITHHOLD, THE CHAIR WILL MAKE…

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IF THE SENATOR WILL WITHHOLD, THE CHAIR WILL MAKE -- THE MAJORITY LEADER.

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  • 08:51:04 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR WILL WITHHOLD, THE CHAIR WILL MAKE -- THE MAJORITY LEADER.

  • 08:54:54 PM

    MR. DOLE

    CAN'T WE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HARKIN AMENDMENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER:…

    CAN'T WE PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HARKIN AMENDMENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNANIMOUS CONSENT PROVIDED THAT THE VOTES WOULD ALL BE STACKED.

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  • 08:57:47 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT PROVIDED THAT THE VOTES WOULD ALL BE STACKED.

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    MR. DOLE

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT PROVIDED THAT THE VOTES WOULD…

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT PROVIDED THAT THE VOTES WOULD ALL BE STACKED.

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  • 09:01:52 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    UNANIMOUS CONSENT PROVIDED THAT THE VOTES WOULD ALL BE STACKED.

  • 09:05:29 PM

    MR. DOLE

    CONSENT THAT WE NOW PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HARKIN AMENDMENT UP OR DOWN.…

    CONSENT THAT WE NOW PROCEED TO VOTE ON THE HARKIN AMENDMENT UP OR DOWN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 09:09:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    OBJECTION. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

  • 09:12:57 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE BY WHICH THE MOTION WAS…

    MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE BY WHICH THE MOTION WAS TABLED. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO TABLE IS AGREED TO.

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  • 09:13:08 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    PRESIDENT? MR. PRESIDENT, MAY WE HAVE ORDER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE…

    PRESIDENT? MR. PRESIDENT, MAY WE HAVE ORDER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE WILL COME TO ORDER.

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  • 09:13:13 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.

  • 09:13:18 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    A TECHNICAL CORRECTION TO AN AMENDMENT PREVIOUSLY OFFERED BY SENATOR…

    A TECHNICAL CORRECTION TO AN AMENDMENT PREVIOUSLY OFFERED BY SENATOR GORTON AND ADOPTED BY THE SENATE.

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  • 09:13:25 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    GORTON AND ADOPTED BY THE SENATE. IT IS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION BECAUSE THE…

    GORTON AND ADOPTED BY THE SENATE. IT IS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT WAS FLAWED IN ITS DRAFTING.

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  • 09:13:26 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BY THE SENATE. IT IS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT WAS…

    BY THE SENATE. IT IS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT WAS FLAWED IN ITS DRAFTING.

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  • 09:13:29 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT WAS FLAWED IN ITS DRAFTING.

  • 09:13:43 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ATTENTION --

  • 09:13:53 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    THE ATTENTION --

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR FROM OREGON. MR. HATFIELD: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE LAST ACT FOR…

    SENATOR FROM OREGON. MR. HATFIELD: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE LAST ACT FOR THIS BILL EXCEPT FOR FINAL PASSAGE AND THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A MANAGERS' WRAP-UP.

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  • 09:14:02 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    LAST ACT FOR THIS BILL EXCEPT FOR FINAL PASSAGE AND THIS IS REFERRED TO AS…

    LAST ACT FOR THIS BILL EXCEPT FOR FINAL PASSAGE AND THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A MANAGERS' WRAP-UP.

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  • 09:14:05 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    FINAL PASSAGE AND THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A MANAGERS' WRAP-UP. WHAT WE HAVE…

    FINAL PASSAGE AND THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A MANAGERS' WRAP-UP. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS INCORPORATE INTO THIS ONE ACTION AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO ON BOTH SIDES. IF

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  • 09:14:10 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    HAVE DONE IS INCORPORATE INTO THIS ONE ACTION AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN…

    HAVE DONE IS INCORPORATE INTO THIS ONE ACTION AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO ON BOTH SIDES. IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY, IT'S FULLY OFFSET. SO IT'S TOTALLY DEFICIT-NEUTRAL. AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM OFFERED ONE AT A TIME, WE ARE OFFERING THEM EN BLOC. AND LET ME ENUMERATE THEM, BECAUSE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SUCH AMENDMENTS MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED THEM. , THE FOLLOWING KLAAS: HATFIELD HAS THREE; LAUTENBERG, MCCAIN, JEFFORDS, PELL, KENNEDY, AKAKA, KEMPTHORNE, INOUYE, WELLSTONE. NOW, THAT'S OUR LISTING OF ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO, CLEARED. AND NOW, MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE AMENDMENTS BE CONSIDERED AND AGREED TO EN BLOC AND THAT MOTIONS TO RECONSIDER VOTES BY WHICH THESE AMENDMENTS WERE AGREED TO BE LAID UPON THE TABLE EN BLOC AND THAT ANY STATEMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE AMENDMENTS BE PLACED IN THE RECORD AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. AND I YIELD TO THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE. MR. BYRD: MR. PRESIDENT, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I SHALL NOT OBJECT. THESE AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN CLEARED ON THIS SIDE AND THEY ARE FULLY OFFSET. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. HATFIELD: I THANK THE CHAIR. I

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  • 09:15:24 PM

    MR. BYRD

    SO ORDERED. MR. HATFIELD: I THANK THE CHAIR. I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE…

    SO ORDERED. MR. HATFIELD: I THANK THE CHAIR. I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE BY WHICH THEY WERE ADOPTED. A SENATOR: MOVE TO LAY THAT ON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO -- THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. THE

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  • 09:15:33 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO -- THE…

    THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION TO -- THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. THE

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  • 09:15:36 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    TO -- THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. THE QUESTION IS ON THE DOLE-DASCHLE…

    TO -- THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. THE QUESTION IS ON THE DOLE-DASCHLE AMENDMENT, NUMBER 577. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE QUESTION IS ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE. ALL

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  • 09:15:44 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    AYES HAVE IT. THE QUESTION IS ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY…

    AYES HAVE IT. THE QUESTION IS ON THE HATFIELD SUBSTITUTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES APPEAR TO HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. THIRD READING. THE CLERK: H.R. 1158, AN ACT MAKING EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL DISASTER ASSISTANCE AND MAKING RESCISSIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1995. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON FINAL PASSAGE. MR.

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  • 09:16:11 PM

    THE CLERK

    OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON FINAL PASSAGE. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT? THE…

    OFFICER: THE QUESTION IS ON FINAL PASSAGE. MR. DOLE: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MAJORITY LEADER.

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  • 09:16:21 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    IF I COULD HAVE MY COLLEAGUES' ATTENTION.

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    MR. DOLE

    SENATE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE MAJORITY

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE IN ORDER. THE MAJORITY LEADER. MR. DOLE: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE…

    BE IN ORDER. THE MAJORITY LEADER. MR. DOLE: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WILL BE NO REQUESTS FOR A VOTE ON EITHER SIDE ON THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL, NO REQUEST FOR VOTE ON THE CONTRACT BOARD, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, NO REQUEST FOR A RECORD VOTE OR YEA-OR-NAY VOTE ON CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, AND THE PAPERWORK SIMPLIFICATION CONFERENCE REPORT IS DONE. AND OTHER

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  • 09:16:31 PM

    MR. DOLE

    MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WILL BE NO REQUESTS FOR A VOTE ON EITHER SIDE ON…

    MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WILL BE NO REQUESTS FOR A VOTE ON EITHER SIDE ON THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL, NO REQUEST FOR VOTE ON THE CONTRACT BOARD, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, NO REQUEST FOR A RECORD VOTE OR YEA-OR-NAY VOTE ON CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, AND THE PAPERWORK SIMPLIFICATION CONFERENCE REPORT IS DONE. AND OTHER

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    VOTE ON EITHER SIDE ON THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL, NO REQUEST FOR VOTE…

    VOTE ON EITHER SIDE ON THE DEFENSE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL, NO REQUEST FOR VOTE ON THE CONTRACT BOARD, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, NO REQUEST FOR A RECORD VOTE OR YEA-OR-NAY VOTE ON CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, AND THE PAPERWORK SIMPLIFICATION CONFERENCE REPORT IS DONE. AND OTHER

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  • 09:16:41 PM

    MR. DOLE

    ON THE CONTRACT BOARD, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, NO REQUEST FOR A RECORD…

    ON THE CONTRACT BOARD, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, NO REQUEST FOR A RECORD VOTE OR YEA-OR-NAY VOTE ON CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, AND THE PAPERWORK SIMPLIFICATION CONFERENCE REPORT IS DONE. AND OTHER WRAP-UP MATERIAL, WHICH ARE ONLY MINOR CHANGES IN THE CONSTITUTION -- NOBODY'S ASKED FOR A ROLL CALL. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY FOR MY COLLEAGUES, IT WOULD BE OUR INTENTION ON 1:00 ON MONDAY, APRIL 24TH, TO BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 956, THE PRODUCT LIABILITY BILL. AND FOLLOWING DISPOSITION OF THE PRODUCT LIABILITY BILL, IT WOULD BE MY INTENTION TO PROCEED TO S. 652, THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS BILL. VOTES COULD OCCUR DURING MONDAY'S SESSION OF THE SENATE BUT WILL NOT OCCUR PRIOR TO THE HOUR OF 3:00 P.M. ON MONDAY, APRIL 24. THIS WILL BE THE LAST VOTE UNTIL HOPEFULLY APRIL 24. AFTER 3:00 P.M. AND MAYBE -- THERE COULD BE VOTES AFTER 3:00 P.M. IF WE SHOULD DECIDE IN THE INTERIM THERE WILL BE NO VOTES, WE'LL TRY TO NOTIFY YOU AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE TIME BEFORE YOU'RE IN THE AIR. I ASK FOR THE YEAS AND NAYS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE A SUFFICIENT SECOND? THERE IS A SUFFICIENT SECOND.

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  • 09:29:48 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    ARE THERE ANY OTHER SENATORS IN THE CHAMBER WISHING TO VOTE OR CHANGE HIS…

    ARE THERE ANY OTHER SENATORS IN THE CHAMBER WISHING TO VOTE OR CHANGE HIS VOTE. IF NOT THE YEAS, 99S NAYS 0. HR 115 AS AMEND SULFUR DIOXIDE CARRIED.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE. A SENATOR: MOVE 0 LAY ON THE TABLE. THE…

    I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE. A SENATOR: MOVE 0 LAY ON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION IT IS AGREED TO HALT HAT

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  • 09:34:34 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    BE STATEMENTS RELATIVE TO H.R. 1158 BE PRINTED IN THE RECORD. THE…

    BE STATEMENTS RELATIVE TO H.R. 1158 BE PRINTED IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR.…

    RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. MR. HATFIELD: NOW MR. PRESIDENT, I

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  • 09:34:47 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PLAY INSERT ALL AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED TO THE COMMITTEE…

    PLAY INSERT ALL AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED TO THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AT APPROPRIATE PLACES IN THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO THE HOUSE BILL. THE PRESIDING

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  • 09:34:58 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AT APPROPRIATE PLACES IN THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO…

    THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AT APPROPRIATE PLACES IN THE SENATE AMENDMENT TO THE HOUSE BILL. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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  • 09:35:14 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CONFERENCE WITH THE HOUSE ON THE DISAGREE VOTES OF THE TWO HOUSES AND THAT…

    CONFERENCE WITH THE HOUSE ON THE DISAGREE VOTES OF THE TWO HOUSES AND THAT THE CHAIR APPOINT THE CONFEREES ON THE PART OF THE SENATE.

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  • 09:35:17 PM

    MR. HATFIELD

    WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE CHAIR APPOINTS THE FOLLOWING CONFEREES:

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    MCDONE CON HE WILL, MACBURNS GREGG BENNETT BYRD INOUYE JOHNSTON, LEAHY…

    MCDONE CON HE WILL, MACBURNS GREGG BENNETT BYRD INOUYE JOHNSTON, LEAHY BUMPERS HARKIN MIKULSKI, REID, KERREY OF NEBRASKA, KOHL AND MURRAY.

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  • 09:35:42 PM

    THE CLERK

    LEAHY BUMPERS HARKIN MIKULSKI, REID, KERREY OF NEBRASKA, KOHL AND MURRAY.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATOR: 4 AS AMENDED BY HAD YOU LAW 99-7 APPOINTS THE FOLLOWING SENATORS…

    SENATOR: 4 AS AMENDED BY HAD YOU LAW 99-7 APPOINTS THE FOLLOWING SENATORS TO THE COMMISSION ON SECURITY AND COOPERATION IN EUROPE: THE SENATOR FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. LAWSUIT EARNBERG, THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, MR. REID, AND THE SENATOR FROM FLORIDA, MR. GRAMM. THE CHAIR NOW ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PRI IN ACCORDANCE WITH PUBLIC LAW 99-498 SECTION 1505 PAREN A PAREN 1 PAREN B DOUBLE I. APPOINTS THE SENATOR FROM HAWAII, SENATOR INOUYE TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE AMERICAN INDIAN ALASKA NATIVE CULTURE AND ARTS DEVELOPMENT. THE CHAIR ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PRI PURSUANT TO PUBLIC LAW 96-388 AS AMENDED BY PUBLIC LAW APPOINTS THE SENATOR FROM IOWA MR. GRASSLEY, INVITES THE SENATOR FROM OHIO, TO THE UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL COUNSEL. THE CHAIR ON BEE HALF OF THE HAVE THE PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF PUBLIC LAW 99-93 AS AMENDED BY PUBLIC LAW 99-151 APPOINT THE SENATOR FROM HIGH WITH A, MR. GRASSLEY AS MEMBER AND CHAIRMAN. UNITED STATES SENATE CAUCUS ON INTERNATIONAL NARCOTICS CONTROL. THE CHAIR ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PRI IN ACCORDANCE WITH PUBLIC LAW 99-498, SECTION 1505 (A), (B) APPOINTS SENATOR DOMENICI TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO THE INSTITUTE OF AMERICAN INDIAN AN ALASKA NAY AT THIS CULTURE AND ARTS DEVELOPMENT. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE. MR. THOMPSON: I NOW ASK THAT THERE BE A PERIOD FOR THE TRAN SX OF ROUTINE MORNING BUSINESS WITH SENATORS PERMIT TODAY SPEAK FOR FOUGHT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES EACH. THE

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  • 09:37:56 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENATORS PERMIT TODAY SPEAK FOR FOUGHT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES EACH. THE…

    SENATORS PERMIT TODAY SPEAK FOR FOUGHT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES EACH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. FRED

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  • 09:38:00 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    EACH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. FRED FRD I ASK CONSENT…

    EACH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. FRED FRD I ASK CONSENT THAT SENATE PROCEED TO H. CON. REST 58 THE ADJOURNMENT RESOLUTION RECEIVED FROM THE HOUSE. THE RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED AN AGREED TO.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED AN AGREED TO. THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID…

    RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED AN AGREED TO. THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID UPON THE TABLE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

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  • 09:38:30 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE CLERK WILL REPORT.

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    MR. THOMPSON

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    DLUM YEAH SO FORTH FOR OTHER PURSUANCE. MR. THOMPSON: I SEND AN AMENDMENT…

    DLUM YEAH SO FORTH FOR OTHER PURSUANCE. MR. THOMPSON: I SEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK ON BEHALF OF SENATORS COHEN, ROTH AND JEFFORDS.

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  • 09:38:45 PM

    THE CLERK

    THE DESK ON BEHALF OF SENATORS COHEN, ROTH AND JEFFORDS.

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    MR. THOMPSON

    MR. THOMPSON, FOR MR. COHEN AND OTHERS PROPOSES AN AMENDMENTED NUMBERED…

    MR. THOMPSON, FOR MR. COHEN AND OTHERS PROPOSES AN AMENDMENTED NUMBERED 593. ON PAGE 7, LINE 2, STRIKE OR AND PAGE 7 LINE 6 STRIKE THE PERIOD AT THE END AND INSERT A SEMICOULD LONG. PAGE 6,

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    2, STRIKE OR AND PAGE 7 LINE 6 STRIKE THE PERIOD AT THE END AND INSERT A…

    2, STRIKE OR AND PAGE 7 LINE 6 STRIKE THE PERIOD AT THE END AND INSERT A SEMICOULD LONG. PAGE 6,

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    THE CLERK

    STRIKE THE PERIOD AT THE END AND INSERT A SEMICOULD LONG. PAGE 6, INSERT…

    STRIKE THE PERIOD AT THE END AND INSERT A SEMICOULD LONG. PAGE 6, INSERT THE FOLLOWING:

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  • 09:39:20 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    THAT THE AMENDMENT BE AGREED TO THE BILL BE DEEMED READ A THIRD TIME AND…

    THAT THE AMENDMENT BE AGREED TO THE BILL BE DEEMED READ A THIRD TIME AND PASSED AND THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID UPON THE TABLE, AND THAT ANY STATEMENTS RELATING TO THE BILL BE PLACED AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID UPON THE TABLE, AND THAT ANY STATEMENTS…

    THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID UPON THE TABLE, AND THAT ANY STATEMENTS RELATING TO THE BILL BE PLACED AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.

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  • 09:39:46 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    RESOLUTION 106 TO AUTHORIZE TESTIMONY BY FORMER SENATE EMPLOYEE AND…

    RESOLUTION 106 TO AUTHORIZE TESTIMONY BY FORMER SENATE EMPLOYEE AND REPRESENTATION BY SENATE LEGAL COUNSEL.

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  • 09:39:48 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    FORMER SENATE EMPLOYEE AND REPRESENTATION BY SENATE LEGAL COUNSEL.

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    CONSENT THAT A STATEMENT EXPLAIN THIS LEGAL COUNSEL RESOLUTION BEING IN…

    CONSENT THAT A STATEMENT EXPLAIN THIS LEGAL COUNSEL RESOLUTION BEING IN THE RECORD AT THIS POINT. THE

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  • 09:39:56 PM

    THE CLERK

    BEING IN THE RECORD AT THIS POINT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT…

    BEING IN THE RECORD AT THIS POINT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. THOMPSON: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION AND PREAMBLE ARE AGREED TO. MR.

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  • 09:40:02 PM

    MR. THOMPSON

    CONSENT -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION AND PREAMBLE ARE…

    CONSENT -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION AND PREAMBLE ARE AGREED TO. MR. THOMPSON: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE FOREIGN RELIES COMMITTEE BE DISCHARGED INTEREST FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SENATE RES 102 EXPRESSING SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING PAKISTAN AND THE VISIT OF PRIME MINISTER BHUTO, FURTHER THAT THE IS THAT THE PROCEED TO ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    THE FOREIGN RELIES COMMITTEE BE DISCHARGED INTEREST FURTHER CONSIDERATION…

    THE FOREIGN RELIES COMMITTEE BE DISCHARGED INTEREST FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SENATE RES 102 EXPRESSING SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING PAKISTAN AND THE VISIT OF PRIME MINISTER BHUTO, FURTHER THAT THE IS THAT THE PROCEED TO ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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    MR. THOMPSON

    DISCHARGED INTEREST FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SENATE RES 102 EXPRESSING…

    DISCHARGED INTEREST FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SENATE RES 102 EXPRESSING SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING PAKISTAN AND THE VISIT OF PRIME MINISTER BHUTO, FURTHER THAT THE IS THAT THE PROCEED TO ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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  • 09:40:14 PM

    THE PRESIDING OFFICER

    SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING PAKISTAN AND THE VISIT OF PRIME MINISTER…

    SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING PAKISTAN AND THE VISIT OF PRIME MINISTER BHUTO, FURTHER THAT THE IS THAT THE PROCEED TO ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION. THE

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