1:58 PM EST

Barney Frank, D-MA 4th

Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Chairman, we do not have the usual situation here where there are Democratic and Republican managers who might come to an agreement on this one. I would say, though, that as one of the Democrats who has been supportive of this bill, I certainly would concur with what the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) has said and would also urge its acceptance.

1:58 PM EST

Carolyn Maloney, D-NY 14th

Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Chairman, I would like to add that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the AFL/CIO join my distinguished colleagues on both sides of the aisle in support of this amendment.

The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Maloney).

The amendment was agreed to.

[Time: 14:00]

AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. GREEN OF WISCONSIN

2:11 PM EST

Mark Green, R-WI 8th

Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin. Yes, the reason this amendment is drafted as it is, is we are, I think as the gentlewoman said very eloquently, treading into new territory here.

What I want to do is make sure that we have an opportunity, if just by that small chance the proponents are wrong, as you and I believe that they may well be, that we have a mechanism to stop irreparable harm from being done.

2:11 PM EST

Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-TX 18th

Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Well, I thank the gentleman for his thoughtfulness. I might just ask one quick question. Does the gentleman think we are in a crisis point where thoughtfulness and study is not appropriate? When I say crisis, we are all supporters of small businesses, but we are working with a collective body of opportunity for small businesses which we both support. Are we at a crisis where we just absolutely are collapsing and we can not study this thoughtfully?

2:12 PM EST

Mark Green, R-WI 8th

Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin. I think there is no reason why we can not study this thoughtfully. We can look at ways of reforming the FBI to make sure it works better to protect all of the interest. I want to make sure, as the gentlewoman does, that we have that time.

2:12 PM EST

Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-TX 18th

Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Let me just say, Mr. Chairman, I believe that we are working to be, if you will, constructive. And this is only an amendment that provides guidance, that allows us to be thoughtful. And if there is a problem, if this is devastating to the prison industries, we are allowed to cease and desist temporarily. If we find that we have overcome the problems, the Attorney General could move forward. I would ask my colleagues to move forward on this very constructive amendment.