8:19 PM EDT

John Campbell, R-CA 48th

Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, you know, you don't get a mountain of debt without spending the money first. I would like to talk a little bit about the spending that this Congress and this President are doing.

Nondefense discretionary spending--so that is basically nondefense and nonentitlement spending--for 2010 is rising in these appropriations bills we're dealing with now from the current year by 12.8 percent. That's $57 billion more that we're going to spend in the next fiscal year than we're spending in the current fiscal year only on nondefense discretionary spending.

Now, Mr. Chairman, if you look at what's happening in the economy right now, growth is not--there is no growth. We are down. GDP is falling by somewhere from 4 to 6 percent on an annualized basis. And what that means is that the incomes of Americans are falling by 4 to 6 percent. They're not going up by 4 to 6 percent or 1 percent or 2 percent. They are, on balance, falling by 4 to 6 percent--obviously, some more than that, some less than that. But in this period when the incomes of Americans

are falling 4 to 6 percent, should the government be increasing its bureaucratic spending by almost 13 percent? And if it does, where is that going to come from? If Americans are making 4 to 6 percent less, how is the government going to continue to spend 13 percent more?

If you include defense spending, total discretionary spending is rising by 8 percent this year. And these numbers that I have just thrown out are in addition to the $787 billion stimulus bill that was passed earlier this year. When you put that into effect, Mr. Chairman, many of the agencies of government saw their budgets double over the previous year at a time when regular Americans at home are cutting back. And what are they going to have to do? This money doesn't drop out of the sky. I know

people say, Oh, well, this spending is good for the economy. It doesn't drop out of the sky. It has to be borrowed or it has to be taxed, and right now we are borrowing it, and someday the people on the majority side will probably want to tax it. And that, Mr. Chairman, is an unsustainable process.

The President's budget increases spending to more than $4 trillion, which is now 29 percent of the gross domestic product. That basically means almost $1 out of $3 of output in the country is now done by the Federal Government, not including State and local governments. After 10 years, the national debt will be a quarter of GDP. For every dollar the U.S. produces, 25 cents is eaten up in debt.

Mr. Chairman, this particular earmark funds the Minority Business Development Agency for the Jamaica Chamber of Commerce in Jamaica, New York, for the Jamaica Export Center. Now, Mr. Chairman, it's $100,000 that is proposed to be spent--another $100,000 to be spent, another $100,000 to be borrowed, another $100,000 we don't have, Americans don't have--that is going to have to be borrowed or taxed to be spent for the Chamber of Commerce in Jamaica, New York, to set up an export center. Mr. Chairman,

that just doesn't seem to me as a critical need at this time that we should be spending $100,000 more on to do.

Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.

8:23 PM EDT

Gregory Meeks, D-NY 6th

Mr. MEEKS of New York. I thank the gentleman from West Virginia.

You know, I have been listening for a while, and if ever there was a bill or position I think that we should agree upon, it's this piece.

I heard Mr. Hensarling say on the floor that we are losing small businesses by the thousands, and I agree with that. People are losing jobs, small businesses, which is the backbone of America. And I've heard my colleagues on the other side of the aisle talk often and defend the backbone of America, our small businesses; without them, the average everyday American is in trouble.

And so it is that as you look at the Jamaica Chamber of Commerce Export Center, which supports the needs of small and midsized freight-forwarding businesses--small business--that surround John F. Kennedy Airport and that aims to provide economic and industrial relief to New York City communities that are grappling with an exodus of export and freight-forwarding jobs and businesses, we're losing the jobs, small businesses are closing. The average everyday American is asking those of us in Congress

to help them.

John F. Kennedy Airport, once the premiere airport for shipping cargo, has fallen, causing the loss of thousands of jobs. As a primary employer, the freight-forwarding firms in Queens County employ approximately 41,000 people directly. Studies project that for every 1,000 air transport jobs that are lost means there are an additional 470 jobs in associated industries that are also lost. So it seems to me that the perfect remedy to save jobs in various areas is to help keep small businesses running

and thriving.

It's estimated that the industry has already lost 4,000 jobs in the areas surrounding John F. Kennedy Airport. This issue became even more pronounced after the tragic events of 9/11, which had a devastatingly negative impact on the airlines and related industries in New York City. In an effort to help sustain the 1,300 small and midsized firms located off the airport site, the Jamaica Chamber of Commerce opened the Export Center.

The center's incubator, one of its main features, happens to encourage minority and female entrepreneurs to operate freight-forwarding businesses by offering technical assistance from a major university business center, keeping them in business and lowering their costs through the collective use of facilities.

If this project is earmarked, the funds would be administered by the Minority Business Development Agency under the Department of Commerce, whose goal is specifically--this is what they're there for--to foster the establishment and growth of minority-owned businesses in America. It aims to address the historical disparity in the number of minority businesses and the large gap that still remains so that small businesses and minorities can get involved in the great American Dream of owning a business

and creating jobs in a community in which they reside. It specifically encourages the development of entrepreneurship programs that increase the success of minority- and women-owned businesses.

The Jamaica Chamber of Commerce Export Center does exactly and supports the goals specifically that the program within the Department of Commerce is charged to do. So there is a perfect match here to create jobs, to get people to become small business owners, to maintain low overhead. I think that that's what the American people want. And by doing this, we are [Page: H6961]

saving jobs not only in one area, but in many areas. To me, that is something that should be

applauded, not something that should be taken away.

We match the very definition of what the Department of Commerce has talked about, a perfect match. And we give, in this process, daylight so that the American people can understand we're trying to help them.

8:29 PM EDT

John Campbell, R-CA 48th

Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, I would like to point out to the gentleman from New York as well that we could not find this earmark request on your Web site, which I believe is something that the committee rules require, we could not find that. So that is one thing we would like to point out to you.

But also, Mr. Chairman, what this $100,000 that we are going to borrow does is subsidizes----

8:29 PM EDT

John Campbell, R-CA 48th

Mr. CAMPBELL. We would be happy to see it. We were not able to find this project.

But reclaiming my time, Mr. Chairman, it subsidizes $100,000 it would borrow for the Chamber of Commerce in Jamaica, New York. The Chamber of Commerce in Jamaica, New York, is a private entity funded by private businesses. So we are using $100,000 of taxpayer money to subsidize private businesses here at a time when we don't have the money. And if we're going to do it for the Chamber of Commerce in Jamaica, why not do it for the Chamber of Commerce in Irvine, where I live, or the thousands of

Chambers of Commerce that exist all over the country.

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Mr. Chairman, I would ask for a ``yes'' vote on this amendment to remove this $100,000 and save a little bit, and start now by not doing this sort of thing anymore that is just not of a critical nature, given the debt and deficits we have.

The CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from California (Mr. Campbell).

The question was taken; and the Chair announced that the noes appeared to have it.