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WELL, I'VE TRIED TO LOOK FOR AREAS WHERE I COULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS FOREIGN POLICY, WHATEVER IT TURNS OUT TO BE. FOR EXAMPLE, I AGREED WITH WHERE HE CAME OUT ON AFGHANISTAN, AND I KNOW IT WAS A TELEPROMPTER SPEECH AND ALL THAT, BUT IT WAS -- I THOUGHT HE SAID THE RIGHT THINGS, AND WE NEED TO STAY THERE, AS UNDESIRABLE AS MANY MAY VIEW THAT, SO I FELT THAT THAT WAS THE RIGHT CALL. I SUPPORTED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE INVITATION TO HAVE A SIM MUTT WITH KIM JONG-UN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PITFALLS, BUT WHY NOT TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ...

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WATCH "AFTER WORDS," SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN ON C-SPAN 2'S BOOK-TV.

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EARLIER TODAY SUZAN LIONS, THE CEO OF THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, APOLOGIZED TO THE ATHLETES WHO WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE APOLOGY CAME DURING A HOUSE ENERGY AND COMMERCE OVERSIGHT HEARING WHERE SHE JOINED THE HEADS OF USA GYMNASTICS, SWIMMING, VOLLEYBALL AND TAE KWON DO IN BRIEFING MEMBERS ON THEIR EFFORTS TO PREVENT FUTURE ABUSE. THIS IS TWO HOURS AND 45 MINUTES. ...

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THE HEARING WILL COME TO ORDER. TODAY THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS IS HOLDING A HEARING ENTITLED EXAMINING THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO PROTECT ATHLETES FROM SEXUAL ABUSE. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE RECENT EVENT HAVE HIGHLIGHTED A VERY TROUBLING AND CONCERNING PATTERN OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITHIN THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE -- COMMUNITY, PARDON ME. THERE HAS BEEN A SYSTEMIC FAILURE IN THE SYSTEM TO PROTECT ATHLETES, INCLUDING IN HOW ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HAVE BEEN HANDLED OR SHOULD I SAY NOT HANDLED BY THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES. THE GROUPS THAT RUN INDIVIDUAL SPORTS AND THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE. LET ME BE CLEAR. IF ONE CASE OF SEXUAL ABUSE IS ONE CASE TOO MANY, AND IT WILL TAKE A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO REGAIN THE TRUST OF PROSPECTIVE ATHLETES, THEIR FAMILIES AND THE MIRN PEOPLE. . THE USOC AND NGBs PLAY A ROLE IN KEEPING MILLIONS OF AMERICAN ATHLETES SAFE FROM HARM. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ATHLETES INVOLVED IN NGBs WILL NEVER COMPETE IN OLYMPICS. THEIR OWN TEAMS AFFILIATED WITH AN NGB OR PLAY IN AN NGB-SPONSORED EVENT. THIS CAN INCLUDE LITTLE LEAGUE TEAMS, LOCAL TENNIS TOURNAMENTS OR GYMNASTIC COMPETITIONS. THEY ARE MANY INSTANCES CHILDREN, BUT THEY STILL FALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF ORGANIZED SPORT SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ATHLETES' SAFETY, WE AREN'T JUST TALKING ABOUT ELITE ATHLETES REPRESENTING THEIR COUNTRY AT HIGHEST LEVEL OF THEIR COMPETITION. WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS AND, YES, OUR CHILDREN. THIS IS WHY ATHLETES' SAFETY MUST BE THE TOP PRIORITY OF THE USOC AND NGBs AND WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE ROBUST POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT REFLECT THEIR PRIORITY. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THESE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MUST BE FOLLOWED. OTHERWISE THEY AREN'T WORTH THE PAPER THAT THEY ARE WRITTEN ON, AND THE CULTURE MUST BE SUCH THAT OUR ATHLETES FEEL SAFE AND PROTECTED. SADLY, WE'VE SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN ATHLETES' SAFETY IS NOT A PRIORITY TOO. OFTEN IT SEEMS THAT THE USOC AND NGBs HAVEN'T ACTED UNTIL THEY ARE PUBLICLY PRESSURED TO DO SO. WHEN YOU HAVE SURVIVORS SAYING THAT THEY WERE ASKED TO STAY SILENT, FELT THAT THEY WEREN'T HEARD AND DIDN'T FEEL SAFE, THERE IS SOMETHING HORRIBLY WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM. SEXUAL ABUSE IS A PROBLEM THAT OUR SOCIETY MUST CONFRONT. ACCORDING TO THE CDC'S STATISTICS ON SEXUAL VIOLENCE, ONE IN THREE WOMEN AND ONE IN SIX MEN EXPERIENCE SEXUAL VIOLENCE INVOLVING PHYSICAL CONTACT DURING THEIR LIFETIMES. WHILE SUCH FOCUS HAS BEEN ON USA GYMNASTICS TEAM DR. LARRY NASSAR, GYMNASTICS IS NOT THE ONLY NGB THAT HAS HAD ITS CHALLENGES. RECENT PUBLIC REPORTS ALSO INCLUDE THE LOPEZ BROTHERS IN TAE KWON DO, RICK BUTLER IN VOLLEYBALL AND THE MULTIPLE ACCUSATIONS THAT HAVE COME FROM THE SWIMMING COMMUNITY AS WELL AS REPORTS IN MANY OTHER NGBs NOT BEFORE US TODAY. HISTORICALLY, EACH NGB AND USOC -- AND THE USOC WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR DIRECTLY HANDLING ANY COMPLAINTS, ALLEGATIONS OR REPORTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE SPORT. HOWEVER, POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND BYLAWS WEREN'T CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL NGBs, AND IT'SUNCLEAR WHETHER THERE WAS AT QUAD OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE THAT THE APPLICABLE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WERE EVEN FOLLOWED. THERE HAS BEEN SOME RECENT CHANGES TO IMPROVE HOW ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ARE HANDLED IN THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY. THE USOC HAS USED WORKING GROUPS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROMOTING AND PROTECTING ATHLETES. THROUGH THESE WORKING GROUPS, NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WERE DEVELOPED, AND THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT WAS CREATED BY THE USOC AND LAUNCHED IN MARCH OF 2017. NOW, ALL NGBs AND THE USOC ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT ALL COMPLAINTS OR ALLEGATIONS THAT INVOLVE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT TO THE CENTER FOR INVESTIGATION. OVER THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, THE COMMITTEE HAS SPOKEN WITH MANY SURVIVORS, AND THEIR EXPERIENCED HAVE INFORMED AND SHAPED OUR WORK. THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THE MANY THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE BY SURVIVORS AND WHISTLEBLOWERS HELP SHED LIGHT ON THE PERVASIVE PROBLEM OF SEXUAL ABUSE IN ORGANIZED SPORT AND PROMPTED THE COMMITTEE TO REQUEST DOCUMENTS FROM ALL 48 NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES AND THE USOC. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT THE SURVIVORS HAVE PROVIDED, AND OUR HEARTS DO GO OUT TO THEM. OUR JOB NOW IS TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT OUR ATHLETES, MANY OF WHOM ARE CHILDREN. THIS HEARING WILL SERVE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHETHER THE USOC AND NGBs HAVE ADEQUATE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO PROTECT ATHLETES FROM SEXUAL ABUSE. IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR PAST FAILURES AND ENSURE THAT SAFETY IS THEIR TOP PRIORITY GOING FORWARD. IT IS TIME TO CHANGE THE CULTURE ONCE AND FOR ALL. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ALL OF OUR WITNESSES, AND I DO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T AN EASY TOPIC, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS TO KEEP OUR NATION'S ATHLETES SAFE, AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR TESTIMONY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND OTHER MINORITY MEMBERS AND STAFF FOR THEIR BIPARTISAN HARD WORK AND ASSISTANCE THAT WE'VE SEEN DURING THIS INVESTIGATION, AND I NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. ...

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Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

THANK YOU, SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE WERE WARNING SIGNS ABOUT SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IN AMATEUR SPORTS FOR DECADES, AND YET THE SYSTEMS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT OUR ATHLETES FAILED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AS THE CHAIRMAN NOTED, THESE SYSTEMS FAILED TO STOP LARRY NASSAR FROM HARMING MORE THAN 250 INDIVIDUALS. THEY FAILED TO STOP A TAE KWON DO COACH FROM ABUSING THREE ATHLETES OVER SEVEN YEARS FOR WHICH HE WAS LATER CONVICTED OF MULTIPLE FELONIES, AND THEY FAILED TO STOP A WOMEN COACH FROM ABUSING MORE THAN A DOZEN ATHLETES OVER 30 YEARS. THAT COACH WAS EVENTUALLY SENTENCED TO 40 YEARS IN PRISON, BUT EVEN A LIFETIME IN JAIL CANNOT ERASE THE DAMAGE THAT HE HAS DONE. THESE CASES, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE NOT ANOMALIES. FAR TOO MANY ATHLETES FROM FAR TOO MANY SPORTS HAVE COME FORWARD STATING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED BY THE VERY PEOPLE THEY TRUSTED TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE THEIR DREAMS. TODAY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE OLYMPIC SPORT COMMUNITY HAS LEARNED FROM THESE SURVIVORS AND IS USING THAT KNOWLEDGE TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A NEW SYSTEM RUN BY THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. WE NEED TO BE CONVINCED THAT THIS NEW CENTER HAS A ROBUST SYSTEM TO INVESTIGATE AND STOP BAD ACTORS SO THAT SITUATIONS LIKE THIS NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CENTER HAS ADEQUATE FUNDING GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES ARE ENGAGING IN THEIR OWN INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS INTO WHAT WENT WRONG. I HOPE EVERYONE TODAY IS PREPARED TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO INVESTIGATE AND LEARN FROM PAST FAILURES SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD A SYSTEM THAT WORKS. I ALSO HOPE THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT IN THE HEART OF MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, CAN HELP US EXPLAIN HOW THE PAST FAILURES INFORM ITS WORK BECAUSE THE CENTER DOESN'T JUST INVESTIGATE MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS, ALTHOUGH THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR JOB. IT ALSO HAS THE EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT TASK OF DEVELOPING ANTI-ABUSE POLICIES AND PROVIDING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TO PROMOTE SAFE ENVIRONMENTS FOR ATHLETES. I HOPE THAT THE CENTER WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE REAL VERIFIABLE PROGRESS IN CREATING A NATIONAL CULTURE OF SAFETY IN SPORT. BUT I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER SAFE SPORT HAS SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AND WHETHER IT TRULY HAS THE INDEPENDENCE IT NEEDS FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS IT OVERSEES. I SPOKE YESTERDAY WITH SAFE SPORT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE HAVE FORMAL OUTSIDE ASSESSMENTS OF SAFE SPORTS NEEDS AND OPERATIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY IS COMMITTED TO GIVING THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS, THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS NOT OPERATING ON A SHOE STRIFNLGT ITS ANNUAL REVENUE 100 DREADS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I HOPE WE WILL HEAR TODAY THAT SAFE SPORT NEEDS MORE MONEY. THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMIT AND THE OTHER GOVERNING BODIES ARE PREPARED TO INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY THE SUPPORT THAT THEY PROVIDE TO THIS MUCH-NEEDED WATCHDOG. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT AND NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES WILL ENSURE THAT THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED IS WORKING AS INTENDED AND IT'S MEETING ITS GOALS OF PROTECTING THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO. FOR EXAMPLE, WILL THERE BE ONGOING AND PERIODIC PERFORMANCE AUDITS TO MAKE SURE THE COMPLAINTS ARE PROPERLY INVESTIGATED, THE SAFE SPORTS EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT IS BEINGISMENTED AND THAT ITS STANDARDS ARE BEING ADOPTED BY THE MANY SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION. ONGOING AUDITS ARE GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO EVALUATING THIS NEW SYSTEM, AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN AND THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO DO THAT WORK. I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS PREPARED TO ENFORCE CONSISTENT ANTI-ABUSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ACROSS ALL GOVERNING BODIES. FOR EXAMPLE, SOME GOVERNING BODIES POST PUBLIC LISTS OF BANNED ATHLETES AND COACHES WHILE OTHERS DO NOT. SOME GOVERNING BODIES REQUIRE SAFE SPORT TRAINING FOR ALL AFFILIATED INDIVIDUALS, AND OTHERS ONLY REQUIRE IT FOR THEIR MEMBERS. I KNOW VARIOUS AFFILIATES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP CONSISTENT POLICIES. THIS IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL, AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE WILL BE CRITICAL. LOOK, WE'RE NOT HERE TODAY TO TEAR DOWN THE SPORTING WORLD. AMERICAN PERSON PERFORMANCE AT THE OLYMPICS IS A SOURCE OF NATIONAL PRIDE AND SPORTS IN GENERAL BENEFITS CHILDREN AND SPORTS OF ALL LEVELS BUT IT DOES NO GOOD FOR ATHLETES TO STAND ON A PODIUM IF THEY HAVE BEEN HARMED AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELPED GET THEM THERE. I HOPE WE'RE ON THE ROAD TO REAL CHANGE. TODAY, I WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERY WITNESS HOW WE TRULY ARE, AND THAT THE STEPS THAT ARE TAKEN TO DATE ARE NOT JUST WINDOW DRESSING BECAUSE EVERY ATHLETE, NO WHAT SPORT THEY PLAY OR ARE PLAYING AT DECEIVER TO COMPETE IN A SAFETY AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. ...

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I NOW REPRESENTING THE RANKING MEMBER MR. PALLONE FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.

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Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. TODAY LEADERS OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE WILL TELL US THEY FAILED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND WE MUST UNDERSTAND THE FAILURES AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE ORGANIZATIONS YOU HAVE FOR US TODAY HAVE LEARNED FROM THEM. REPORTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE IN SPORTS HAD A V BEEN IN THE PRESS YVES BEFORE THE WORLD LEARNED OF DR. LARRY NASSAR'S CRIMES. IT'S A SHAME THESE SURVIVORS HAVE BEEN FAILED. THE PROBLEM FOR ABUSE IN ORGANIZED SPORTS IS BIGGER THAN LARRY NASSAR OR ANY SINGLE ORGANIZATION. TODAY WE'LL HEAR FROM THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES OF SEVERAL SPORTS AND EACH ONE HAS TO ADDRESS SEXUAL ABUSE OF THEIR ATHLETES. UMP, WE'VE SEEN THAT THESE GAZED ARE NOT RARE. TOO MANY ATHLETES HAVE COME FORWARD WITH ACCOUNTS OF ABUSE. THESE ATHLETES COME FROM DIFFERENT SPORTS BUT OFTEN WE HEAR THE SAME THEMES WHEN WE LISTEN TO THEM. FREQUENTLY THEIR ABUSERS HELD POSITIONS OF POWER AND SOMETIMES CONTROLLING WHETHER AN ATHLETE COULD TRAIN OR COMPETE, AND FREQUENTLY THEIR ABUSERS HAD POWERFUL FRIENDS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONS. UNTIL RECENT EACH SPORTS GOVERNING BODY ADDRESSED SEXUAL ABUSE ALLEGATIONS INTERNALLY AND THAT SYSTEM FAILED TO. LAST MARCH THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT OPENED ITS DOORS WITH A MISSION TO PREVENT ABUSE AND FOSTER A CULTURE OF SAFETY IN SPORTS. NOW SPORT GOVERNING BODIES CAN AND MUST REPORT ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT FOR THE CENTERS OF SAFE SPORT AND THE CENTER CONTINUES TO RECEIVE NEW CASES AS WELL AS CASES FROM ATHLETES WHO HAD REPORTED SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IN THE PAST. ALREADY THE ORGANIZATION HAS PROVIDED TRAINING TO MORE THAN 300,000 PEOPLE AND HAVE RECEIVED MORE THAN 500 REPORTS. CLEARLY ALL OF THIS TAKES RESOURCES, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT HAS THE RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL IT NEEDS TO DO ITS WORK. SO I ALSO WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS DOING TO SUPPORT THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. SPECIAL LANGUAGE IN THE TAX CODE DESIGNATES THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AS A TAX-EXEMPT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, BUT FEW NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS CAN REPORT REVENUES IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE DID IN ITS MOST RECENT TAX FILING. THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT GETS ITS FUNDING FROM DIVERSE SOURCES INCLUDING FUND-RAISING AND GOVERNMENT GRANTS. IT ALSO GETS A PORTION OF ITS FUNDING FROM THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR TODAY THAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND THE SPORTS GOVERNING BODIES ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT AND CONTINUING SUPPORT TO THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. IT'S CRITICAL FOR THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT TO HAVE A PERMANENT AND DEDICATED SOURCE OF FUNDING, AND THESE SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. I ALSO HOPE WE WILL HEAR THAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE WILL USE ITS POSITION OF LEADERSHIP AND AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE SPORTS GOVERNING BODIES TO ADOPT REFORMS AS NEEDED TO REDUCE THE RISK OF HARM TO ATHLETES. FOR EXAMPLE, QUESTIONS SUCH AS WHO IS SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND CHECKS, HOW THESE CHECKS ARE DONE AND WHETHER LISTS OF INDIVIDUALS BANNED ARE MADE PUBLIC AND ALL-IMPORTANT SAFETY STANDARDS THAT SHOULD BE APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS ALL SPORTS. I ALSO WANT TO HEAR THAT THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT, THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND ALL GOVERNING BODIES ARE COMMITTED TO COMPLETING ON GOING FORMAL ASSESSMENTS AND EVALUATIONS TO DETERMINE WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT NEEDS ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT OR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY, I WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL OF OUR WITNESSES ABOUT THE REFORMS THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED TO KEEP ATHLETES SAFE. I WANT YOU TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU'RE THOROUGHLY EXAMINING HOW YOU FAILED ATHLETES IN THE PAST AND THAT THOSE LESSONS ARE SHAPING THE REFORMS YOU'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, AND I NEED TO BE CONVINCED THAT YOU'RE BUILDING A SYSTEM WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE, STRUCTURE AND RESOURCES TO PROTECT ATHLETES UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP. I ALSO WANT TO HEAR THAT THERE WILL BE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THE KINDS OF ABUSES THAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS MY MINUTE, I WILL YIELD BACK. ...

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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL COMMIT, MR. WALDON, FOR AN OPENING.

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Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR LEADING THIS INVESTIGATION AND HOLDING THIS VERY IMPORTANT HEARING TODAY. EVERY ONE OF US IN IN ROOM HAS AN OLYMPIC MEMORY. FOR A SELECT FEW IT'S ACTUALLY COMPETING IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES ON BEHALF OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF US IT'S WATCHING OUR ATHLETES COMPETE. OLYMPICS INSPIRE. THEY UNITE US. IT IS -- AS WE CHEER THEM ON TO VICTORY WITH GREAT PRIDE, OUR CHILDREN WATCH THE OLYMPICS WITH THEIR OWN DREAMS THAT ONE DAY THEY, TOO, MAY COMPETE AT THE MOST ELITE LEVEL AND REPRESENT OUR COUNTRY. BUT THE SYSTEM OF ORGANIZED SPORT HEADED BY THE UNITED STATES OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND 48 NATIONAL FWOFNING BODIES OR NGBs IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE OLYMPICS. IT INCLUDES MILLIONS OF ATHLETES WHO DON'T NECESSARILY COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS. THE FOUR NGBs BEFORE US TODAY, GYMNASTICS, TAE KWON DO, VOLLEYBALL AND SWIMMING COLLECTIVELY REPRESENT SOME 979,000 MEMBERS. USA SWIMMING INCLUDES EVERYONE FROM MICHAEL PHELPS WHO BY THE WAY TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, TO CHILDREN COMPETING IN LOCAL RECREATIONAL LEAGUE. THE SAME IS TRUE NOT JUST FOR THE THREE OTHER NGBs AT THETABLE TODAY BUT FOR ALL THE OTHER NGBs IN EXISTENCE. IN PURSUIT OF THEIR DREAMS, ATHLETES OF ALL LEVELS HAVE FREQUENT CONTACT WITH COACHES AND DOCTORS AND TRAINERS AND VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE GIVEN RESPONSIBILITY BEYOND SIMPLY ENABLING THESE ATHLETES TO ACHIEVE EXCELLENCE IN THEIR CHOSEN SPORT. WE ENTRUST THEM WITH ATHLETE SAFETY, AND THEIR WELL-BEING. THESE INDIVIDUALS OFTEN HOLD POSITIONS OF GREAT POWER AND AUTHORITY OVER THE ATHLETES. NOT ONLY CAN THEY CONTROL AN ATHLETE'S TRAINING SCHEDULE OR MEDICAL TREATMENT, THOSE VERY INDIVIDUALS OFTEN HAVE A DIRECT SAY IN THAT ATHLETE'S CAREER SUCH AS DECIDING WHO COMPETES IN AN UPCOMING EVENT. AS HAS BECOME ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TOO MANY AUTHORITY FIGURES HAVE ABUSED THEIR POWER AND INFLUENCE AND HARMED THE VERY ATHLETES THAT WERE TRUSTED TO THEM. ATHLETES HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER BY COMPARISON, AND TOO MANY HAVE BEEN FAILED BY THE SYSTEM THAT PURPORTS TO PROTECT THEM. MUCH ATTENTION HAS BEEN PAID TO THE CASE OF LARRY NASSAR BECAUSE IN PART THE SICKENING NUMBER OF ATHLETES HE ABUSED TO. DATE HUNDREDS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE COME FORWARD AS VICTIMS OF NASSAR'S ABUSE THAT SPANNED TWO DECADES. BUT THE SAD TRUTH IS THAT ABUSE IN THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY EXTENDS WELL BEYOND LARRY NASSAR AND USA GYMNASTICS. THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORTS ESTABLISHED IN MARCH OF 2017 HAS ALREADY RECEIVED 4888 REPORTS REGARDING SEXUAL ABUSE INVOLVING 35 OF THE 48 TOTAL NGBs.THE COMMITTEE HAS SPOKEN WITH NUMEROUS SURVIVORS IN THE COURSE OF THIS VERSION AND WE THANK ALL OF THEM FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN THIS WORK, AND WE KNOW THAT THEIR STORIES ARE NOT EASY TO TELL. THERE WERE FAR TOO MANY SIMILARITIES IN WHAT WE HEARD. INDIVIDUALS IN POSITIONS OF POWER NOT ONLY ABUSE THEIR TRUST BUT PHYSICALLY ABUSED THEIR PERSONS, AND WHEN SURVIVORS SOUGHT HELP, FAR TOO MANY FELT THE SYSTEM PROTECTED NOT THEM BUT THEIR ABUSERS. THOUGH FELT SILENT. IN THE EYES OF MANY SURVIVORS CULTURE AND MONEY WENT OUT OVER ATHLETE SAFETY AND PROTECTION. CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST DECADE, IN PARTICULAR WITH THE LAST YEAR THAT SHOW HOW THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HOWEVER, MANY QUESTIONS REMAIN WHETHER THE COMMUNITY HAS COME FAR ENOUGH AND MOVED FAST ENOUGH. MORE MUST BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT ATHLETE SAFETY IS THE TOP PRIORITY OF THE USOC AND THE NGBs. TODAY THIS COMMITTEE WILL EXAMINE HOW TO PROTECT YOUNG ATHLETES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. AMONG OUR CONCERNS IS WHETHER THE CULTURE WITHIN THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY FOSTERS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR VERDICT TIMES TO COME FORWARD. THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS ARE ENFORCED IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES TRANSPRARNSY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WHETHER THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE THAT IT CAN BE AND WHETHER THE USOC HAS EXERCISED ITS FULL AUTHORITIES OVER THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO CREATING AND ENFORCING POLICIES THAT PROTECT OUR ATHLETES FROM SEXUAL ABUSE AND MISCONDUCT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT WHAT BEING CONGRESS DID DO TO IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN THE SYSTEM SO WE'RE PROTECTING ATHLETES AT ALL LEVELS AND ALL AGES IN ALL SPORTS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. WITH THAT I YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO THE GENTLE LADY FROM INDIANA, MISS BROOKS. ...

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Susan W. Brooks, R-IN Susan W. Brooks, R-IN

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING TODAY. ABUSE OF ALL KINDS HAS COME UNDER CLOSE SCRUTINY ACROSS THE COUNTRY THIS PAST YEAR. SEXUAL ABUSE IN PARTICULAR HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE FAR MORE PERVASIVE AND INSIDIOUS THAN MANY WOULD HAVE IMAGINED. THANKS TO THE DILIGENT WORK OF MY HOMETOWN NEWSPAPER "THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR" WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE REVELATIONS ABOUT DR. NASSAR AND HIS SYSTEMIC ABUSE OF U.S. GYMNASTS BUT ALSO MORE ABOUT OUR NATION'S OLYMPIC ATHLETES AND WHAT THEY HAVE HAD TO ENDURE FOR SO MANY YEARS IN THEIR OLYMPIC QUEST, AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I'M PROUD THAT I LED ALONG WITH A COLLEAGUE LOIS FRANKEL FROM FLORIDA, WE SAW THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS FROM SEXUAL ABUSE AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2017. OUR PRESIDENT SIGN THE INTO LAW ON FEBRUARY OF 2018 THIS BIPARTISAN GAME-CHANGING BILL THAT PRIORITIZES THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION'S ATHLETES BECAUSE WE MUST ENSURE THAT OUR YOUTH ARE SAFE WHEN THEY GO TO THE GYM, WHEN THEY TAKE THE ICE, WHEN THEY GO OUT ON TO THE FIELD TO PRACTICE THEIR SPORT. YOUNG ATHLETES LOOK TO THEIR COACHES, THEIR INSTRUCTORS AND TRAINERS AT ROLE MODELS, AND OUR BILL, NOW LAW, WORKS TO ENSURE THAT OUR ATHLETIC, NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES WILL SUPPORT A CULTURE WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS TO FOSTER SAFE AND HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN COACHES AND INSTRUCTORS AND TRAINERS AND ATHLETES THROUGH THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WILL PREVENT, DETENT AND REPORT ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IN AN APPROPRIATE AND TIMELY MANNER, AND I'M PROUD THAT THIS WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BECAUSE OUR PAST, OUR PRESENT AND OUR FUTURE ATHLETES WHO WERE DEDICATING THEIR LIVES TO PERFECT THEIR SPORT, THE DREAM OF THE OLYMPIC STAGE, NEED TO BE PROTECTED. THEY NEED TO BE SAFE AND FREE FROM SBURKS AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY. ...

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I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE MEMBERS' WRITTEN OPENING STATEMENTS BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. WITHOUT OBJECTION THEY WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. ADDITIONALLY I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MEMBERS NOT ON THE COMMERCE COMMIT ON THE COMMITTEE OF OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATION ARE ALLOWED TO PAR TIS A IN TODAY'S HEARING. WITHOUT OBJECTION, I SO ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE WITNESSES FOR TODAY'S HEARING. FIRST, ABOUT MISS SUSANNE LYONS, ACTING CHIEF OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES OLYMPIC COMMIT, NEXT IS MISS CARRIE PERRY, EXECUTIVE AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AT USA GYMNASTICS, MR. TIM HENCHY, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AT USA SWIMMING, AND MR. STEVE McNALLY,EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT USA TAE KWON DO. THEN WE HAVE MR. JAMIE DAVIS, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AT USA VOLLEYBALL, AND FINALLY MICHELLY FULL, PRESIDENT AND CHOCHSER AT THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE COMMITTEE IS HOLDING AN INVESTIGATIVE HEARING, AND WHEN DOING SO HAS HAD THE PRACTICE OF TAKING TESTIMONY UNDER OATH. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO TESTIFYING UNDER OATH? LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL WITNESSES HAVE RESPONDED NO. THE CHAIR THEN ADVISES YOU THAT UNDER THE RULES OF THE HOUSE AND THE RULES OF THE COMMITTEE YOU'RE ENTITLED TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY COUNSEL. DO ANY OF YOU DESIRE TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY COUNSEL DURING YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY? LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL WITNESSES HAVE RESPONDED NO, AND IN THAT CASE IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE. I ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, AND I WILL SWEAR YOU IN. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. YOU'RE NOW UNDER OATH AND SUBJECT TO THE PENALTIES SET FORTH IN SECTION 18, 1001 OF UNITED STATES CODE. YOU MAY NOW GIVE A FIVE-MINUTE SUM RIFF YOUR WRITTEN STATEMENT, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH YOU, MISS LYONS. YOU HAVE A LIGHT SYSTEM THAT'S THERE THAT SHOULD TURN YELLOW WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT AND RED WHEN YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP. MISS LYONS, WELCOME. ...

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00:25:11
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN HARPER, RANKING MEMBER DeGETTE AND MEMBERS. SUBCOMMITTEE. THREE MONTHS AGO I AGREED TO SERVE AS THE ACTING CEO OF THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE BECAUSE I FELT AN OBLIGATION TO HELP ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT BRING US HERE TODAY. LIKE YOU, I WAS DEEPLY SADDENED AND ALSO ANGRY TO HEAR THE STATEMENTS OF THE GIRLS AND WOMEN WHO WERE THE VICTIMS OF LARRY NASSAR. I HEARD THE POWERFUL AND COMPELLING STORIES OF VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS, INCLUDING THOSE THAT HAD SOUGHT HELP FROM PEOPLE IN THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY. THEY FOUND THE SYSTEM UNRESPONSIVE, NEEDLESSLY COMPLEX AND FRAUGHT WITH RISKS TO THEIR OLYMPIC DREAMS. THIS IS APPALLING AND UNACCEPTABLE. THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY FAILED THE PEOPLE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE ONCE AGAIN TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND TO THEIR FAMILIES, SOME OF WHOM I BELIEVE ARE WITH US TODAY. I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. AND WE WILL DO BETTER. WHEN I ACCEPTED THIS ROLE, I ANNOUNCED A SERIES OF INITIATIVES TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF ABUSE AND OTHER STRUCTURAL WEAKNESSES. WE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING FUNDING FOR GYMNASTS AND ATHLETES FROM OTHER SPORTS AFFECTED BY ABUSE. WE COMMITTED TO DOUBLING OUR FUNDING FOR THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. WE ANNOUNCED A GOVERNANCE REVIEW, AND WE COMMITTED TO STRENGTHENING THE VOICES OF THE ATHLETES, BOTH YOUNG AND ADULT, IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IMPORTANTLY WE REITERATED OUR COMMITMENT TO REFORM USA GYMNASTICS. LAST YEAR WE DEMANDED THE RESIGNATION OF THE USA GYMNASTICS CEO, AND THIS YEAR WE REQUIRED A COMPLETE TURNOVER OF THE USA GYMNASTICS BOARD ALONG WITH SEVERAL ADDITIONAL REFORMS. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE ALREADY MAKING PROGRESS, BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. I WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OUR EFFORTS. FIRST, WE ARE REDOUBLING OUR EFFORTS WITH THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. AFTER ONLY ONE YEAR IT IS ALREADY CLEAR THAT THE CENTER IS SERVING AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN PROTECTING ATHLETES. THE CENTER HAS EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF REPORTS OF ABUSE, AND ALTHOUGH ANY REPORT IS DISHEARTENING, THAT'S THE REASON WE NEED THE CENTER. IT PROVIDES A SAFE AND INDEPENDENT PATH FOR ATHLETES TO REPORT THESE CONCERNS. WE DOUBLED OUR GRANT TO THE CENTER TO $3.1 MILLION THIS YEAR TO ENABLE IT TO HIRE MORE INVESTIGATORS AND TO RESOLVE CASES MORE QUICKLY. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CENTER TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SECOND, WE ARE LISTENING TO AND ENHANCING THE VOICES OF ATHLETES IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH ATHLETE SURVEYS AND THROUGH A SERIES OF ATHLETE WORKING SESSIONS. THIRD, WE ANNOUNCED A GOVERNANCE REVIEW TO INFORM OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES AND ATHLETES AND OUR OVERSIGHT OF THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ORGANIZED AND EMPOWERED TO TAKE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO PROTECT ATHLETES. REBUILDING GYMNASTICS IS THE FOURTH CATEGORY. WE COMMITTED TO A $1.3 MILLION GRANT TO THE NATIONAL GYM FASTICS FOUNDATION ENTIRELY FOR ATHLETE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, MEDICAL SUPPORT AND COUNSELING. WE ARE IN NEARLY CONSTANT CONTACT WITH CEO CARRIE PERRY, GYMNASTICS INTERIM BOARD AND OTHERS AT GYMNASTICS. RECENTLY WE SUPPORTED GYMNASTICS AS THEY ESTABLISHED THAT INTERIM BOARD, AND WE SUPPORTED THEM AS THEY MADE GOVERNANCE REFORMS TO IMPLEMENT BEST PRACTICES. EVEN AS WE MOVE AHEAD A FIFTH CATEGORY OF EFFORT WILL DEVELOP IN THE COMING MONTHS WHEN WE RECEIVE THE REPORT OF THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF NASSAR'S ABUSE. THE INVESTIGATION COVERS BOTH THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND USA GYMNASTICS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION ON ABUSE THAT THE INVESTIGATION REVEALS. WE WILL MAKE THAT REPORT PUBLIC IN ITS COMPLETE AND UNABRIDGED FORM, AND WE WILL TAKE WHATEVER ACTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE REPORT'S FINDINGS. WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN STRENGTHENING PROTECTIONS FOR ATHLETES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS MUST NOT CEASE. WE MUST SUPPORT THE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS AND HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE STOOD UP AGAINST ABUSE. WE PROMISE TO LEAD THE OLYMPIC COMMUNITY TO BRING REAL AND LASTING CHANGE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. ...

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00:29:46

THANK YOU, MISS LYONS. THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MISS PERRY FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PURPOSES OF YOUR OPENING STATEMENT.

00:29:54
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

CHAIRMAN HARPER, RANKING MEMBER DeGETTE, MEMBERS OF THE OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY AT THIS VERY IMPORTANT HEARING. FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS USA GYMNASTICS HAS SERVED AS THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY FOR THE SPORT IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE MANY RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE GYMNASTICS COMMUNITY. NONE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR ATHLETES. LIKE ALL OF YOU I WAS APPALLED AND SICKENED BY THE DESPICABLE CRIMES OF LARRY NASSAR. WE MUST DO BETTER. I CAME ON BOARD AT USA GYMNASTICS IN DECEMBER FROM OUTSIDE THE SPORT AND THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT. MY SINGULAR GOAL AND THE REASON I ACCEPTED THIS MISSION IS TO CREATE A SUPPORTIVE AND EMPOWERING CULTURE THAT HELPS OUR ATHLETES ACHIEVE THEIR GYMNASTICS DREAMS AND AN EMPOWERING CULTURE. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL WHO WERE HARMED BY THE HORRIFIC ACTS OF LARRY NASSAR. I WAS IN THE COURTROOM TO LISTEN TO THE INCREDIBLY COURAGEOUS WOMEN EXPLAIN IN VIVID AND PAINFUL DETAIL THE DAMAGE HE DID TO THEIR LIVES. THEIR VOICES WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN. I COMMIT TO YOU THAT I WILL KEEP THEIR WORDS AND EXPERIENCES AT THE CORE OF EVERY DECISION I MAKE EVERY DAY AS THE LEADER OF THIS ORGANIZATION. THEIR STORIES HAVE BROKEN MY HEART, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO STRENGTHENED MY RESOLVE. LET THERE BE NO MISTAKE. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. USA GYMNASTICS IS ON A NEW PATH WITH NEW LEADERSHIP AND A COMMITMENT TO ENSURE THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. SINCE DECEMBER 2017, WE HAVE EMBARKED ON A MISSION TO IMPLEMENT A CULTURE THAT PUTS ATHLETES FIRST. TO THAT END, WE ARE WORKING HARD TO REGAIN THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE OF OUR ATHLETES, THEIR FAMILIES AND ALL WHO ARE A PART OF OUR GYMNASTICS COMMUNITY. IN THE PAST FIVE MONTHS HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE BOLD DECISIONS TO PUT USA GYMNASTICS ON A NEW COURSE. WE CLOSE THE NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER AT THE KAROLYI RANCH. WE MADE DIFFICULT PERSONNEL DECISIONS TO ENSURE THAT USA GYMNASTICS HAS A FRESH START. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE HOPE WILL SHED LIGHT ON HOW NASSAR WAS ABLE TO COMMIT THESE HORRIFIC CRIMES. WE FULLY SUPPORT FEDERAL LEGISLATION, NOW A LAW, THAT WILL HELP SAFEGUARD AMATEUR ATHLETES. WE EXPANDED OUR SAFE SPORT DEPARTMENT TO INCLUDE FIVE NEW POSITIONS, FOUR OF WHICH WILL LIVE IN THE REGIONS THAT THEY COVER THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES TO BETTER SUPPORT, TRAIN, EDUCATE AND SERVE OUR MEMBERS. WE CREATED AN ATHLETE TASK FORCE WHERE OUR ATHLETES WILL HELP SHAPE OUR ORGANIZATION'S FUTURE AND ITS STRATEGIC AND OPERATING DECISIONS. WE CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THE DEBRA DANIELS RECOMMENDATIONS STEMMING FROM AN INDEPENDENT EVALATION OF USA GYMNASTICS POLICIES. WE ARE STRONGLY ENFORCING THE USA GYMNASTICS SAFE SPORT POLICY THAT REQUIRES MANDATORY REPORTING, DEFINES SPECIFIC TYPES OF MISCONDUCT, SETS STANDARDS FOR GROOMING BEHAVIOR AND ESTABLISHES GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY. WE MAY REPORTING OF ABUSE EASIER WITH A DEDICATED TOLL-FREE NUMBER AND ONLINE REPORTING. WE ARE AMENDING OUR BYLAWS TO SUPPORT THE CULTURAL COMMITMENT TO ATHLETE SAFETY AND TO HELP ENFORCE SAFE SPORT POLICY. WE ARE EDUCATING AND TRAINING OUR STAFF, OUR BOARD AND OUR MEMBERS ON THE NEW SAFE SPORT POLICY. I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT OUR STAFF AND OUR BOARD ARE 100% SAFE SPORT COMPLAINT. BEGINNING IN 2018, ALL PROFESSIONAL AND CLUB MEMBERS MUST BE SAFE SPORT CERTIFIED AS A CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP. WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN MEDIATION IN ORDER TO RESOLVE THE ATHLETES' CLAIMS FAIRLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY, AND WE CREATED AN ATHLETE ASSISTANCE FUND IN COOPERATION WITH THE NATIONAL GYMNASTICS FOUNDATION TO PROVIDE SURVIVORS OF ABUSE WITH THE NEEDED FINANCIAL RESOURCES FOR COUNSELING AND MEDICAL SERVICES. THESE NECESSARY CHANGES ARE NOT JUST AMENDMENTS TO OUR POLICIES. THEY ARE PART OF A CULTURAL SHIFT THAT REFLECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR ATHLETES AND MEMBERS. WE WILL HOLD OUR ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF CARE IN ORDER TO BECOME THE STANDARD BEARER OF CHANGE. THE I'M TESTIFYING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE NEW USA GYMNASTICS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE IS A PARENT DRIVING THEIR CHILD TO GYMNASTICS CLASS. I WANT THAT PARENT TO KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN EVERY DAY TO PROTECT YOUR CHILD. ATHLETE SAFETY MUST BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYTHING WE DO. WE HAVE TAKEN DECISIVE ACTION TO GROW INTO A MORE ATHLETE-CENTERED ORGANIZATION, COMMITTED TO HELPING OUR ATHLETES FULFILL THEIR DREAMS IN A SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT. OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE STOOD ON THE PODIUM UNDER THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND OUT OF DEVOTION TO THE ASPIRING YOUNG ATHLETES WHO SET FOOT IN GYMS EVERY DAY, WE MUST AND WE WILL EMERGE STRONGER AND SAFER. THANK YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. ...

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00:35:04

THANK YOU, MISS PERRY. THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MR. HINCHEY FOR FIVE MINUTES.

00:35:09
Tim Hinchey Tim Hinchey

CHAIRMAN HARPER, RANKING MEMBER DeGETTE AND THE MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY. IN 2010, USA SWIMMING FACED ITS OWN REALITY THAT WILL CHILDREN AND SWIMMERS WERE BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED IN SPORT. USA SWIMMING APOLOGIZES, ACKNOWLEDGES AND DEEPLY REGRETS THE ABUSE SUFFERED BY CHILDREN, ATHLETES AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN SWIMMING PROGRAMS. PARTICIPATION IN SPORT SHOULD OFFER PHYSICAL, SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL BENEFITS, BUT FOR SOME IT HAS RESULTED IN ABUSE, TRAUMA THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT REST OF THEIR LIVES. THAT IS INEXCUSABLE. LIKE THOSE WHO SIT BEFORE ME TODAY, I AM DEEPLY COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN TO GROW, PLAY AND COMPETE. WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT MUCH WORK REMAINS TO BE DONE, LET ME DESCRIBE STEPS USA SWIM HAS TAKEN. IN 20 SO USA SWIMMING ESTABLISHED A COMPREHENSIVE ABUSE PREVENTION AND RESPONSE PROGRAM CALLED SAFE SPORT. USA SWIMMING HIRED AN ATHLETE PROTECTION OFFICER, THE FIRST POSITION OF ITS KIND IN THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT, AND ESTABLISHED A NATIONAL SAFE SPORT COMMITTEE. OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, THE SAFE SPORT PROGRAM HAS EVOLVED. OVER 90 INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM MEMBERSHIP FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND IS PUBLISHED ON USA SWIMMING'S BAN LIST. CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE BEEN ENHANCED. CURRENTLY WE CONDUCT MONTHLY RECURRING REPORTS ON OUR 50,000 NON-ATHLETE MEMBERS RESULTING IN APPROXIMATELY 600,000 ANNUAL BACKGROUND CHESKS ADULTS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO CHILDREN. WE HAVE OVER 80 INDIVIDUALS DEDICATED TO CHAMPIONING SAFE SPORT ATHLETES AND EFFORTS AT THE LOCAL, REGIONAL AND NATIONAL LEVEL. EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES HAVE ALSO INCREASED. OVER 10,000 INDIVIDUALS HAVE RECEIVED SAFE SPORT TRAINING AND IN-PERSON WORKSHOPS OR CONFERENCES. FINALLY, A VICTIMS ASSISTANCE FUND CALLED SWIM ASSIST HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. HOWEVER, WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE REPORTS OF CHILD SBUGS IN SWIMMING. THE ORGANIZATION CAN, SHOULD AND WILL DO MORE, AND I WILL LEAD THAT EFFORT. I'M THE FATHER OF SIX, THREE GIRLS AND THREE BOYS AGES 30 TO 11. UPON ASSUMING THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDENT OF USA SWIMMING IN JULY OF TO 17 I RECOGNIZED SAFE SPORT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO THE ORGANIZATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN THIS INVESTIGATION HAS ONLY INTENSIFIED MY COMMITMENT TO MAKE PROTECTING CHILDREN AND ATHLETES USA SWIMMING'S ABSOLUTE TOP PRIORITY. TO THAT END, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF NEW INITIATIVES UNDERWAY, AND WE'RE VETTING EVEN MORE. THE SAFE SPORT RECOGNIZED CLUB PROGRAM WILL ENHANCE ATHLETE PROTECTION LEVELS AT ALL LEVELS, ESPECIALLY THE LOCAL LEVEL. THE TRAIN THE TRAINERS PROGRAM WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ADVOCATES SPREADING THE SAFE SPORT PROGRAM THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION. I HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO MEET AND ENGAGE WITH SURVIVORS OF ABUSE TO ENSURE THAT WE HEAR ABUSE TO ENSURE WE HEAR THEIR VOICES. AND LEARN FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES. IN ADDITION, USA SWIMMING WILL CONTINUE TO BE A RESPONSIBLE LEAD ER LEADER, STEWARD AND MEMBER OF THE SWIMMING COMMUNITY. IT HAS POLLICIES THAT REQUIRE REPORT LG, PROHIBIT RETALIATION AND LIMIT ONE-ON-ONE ACTIONS BETWEEN ADULTS AND CHILDREN. FURTHER, USA SWIMMING SUPPORTS THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT AND IS FULLY COMMITTED TO ITS SUCCESS. WHILE WE CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST, WE CAN LEARN FROM IT AND DO BETTER. OUR COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING A SAFE, HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR ATHLETES IS CON STANLT AND LONG LASTING. THANK YOUEN ALOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. ...

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00:39:31

THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES MR. NORTH KOREAAL McNALLY.

00:39:39

FOR UNDER EIGHT MONTH, I'VE SERVED AS USA DIRECTOR UNDER TAE KWON DO AND I THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO EXPRESS UNDER MY LEADERSHIP TO ENSURING THAT ATHLETES ARE PROTECTED FROM SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITHIN THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMUNITY AS WELL AS ALL THOSE PARTICIPATING OUTSIDE. USA WHICH FORMED IN 2004 AFTER THE DISILLUSION OF THE PREVIOUS GOVERN INGING BODTY OF THE UNION. FEW RECORDS EXIST AND NO CONTINUITY EXISTS WITH REGARD TO THE ORGANIZATION NIECE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, LEADERSHIP OR SENIOR STAFF. I HAVE CONCLUDED THE ORGANIZATION'S RESPONSE TO COMPLAINTS VARIED AS ADMINISTRATION'S BOUGHT AND ETHICS COMMITTEE'S CHANGED PERSONNEL. USA TAE KWON DO HAS SOUGHT TO PROTECT MEMBERS FROM MISCONDUCT WHILE PROTECT INGING THE RIGHTS OF THE ACCUSED. ...

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00:40:49

COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU? THANK YOU.

00:40:54

IN 2015, FOLLOWING ALLEGATIONS BY AN ATHLETE OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AT THE HANDS OF A USA COACH, FROM FIRM TO SERVE AS INDEPENDENT COUNSEL. FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, THEY HAVE RERYED TO INVESTIGATE H HISTORY IN AN EFFORT TO DEPLOY ANY INCIDENTS. WITH NO CONTROL OVER CONTROL AND WITH ONLY RUDIMENTARY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO USA TAE KWON DO. THE DIRECTION OF OUTSIDE COUNTYSEL IN CONDUCTION WITH THE SUPPORT OF USA TAE KWON DO LEADERSHIP, A NUMP MEASURES WERE IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS PENDING ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT. DISCOVER ADDITIONAL CLAIMS AND EXECUTE REMEDIES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF USA TAE KWON DO ATHLETES. THE INVESTIGATION WAS CONDUCTED BY THE COUNSEL HIRE EDD AT THE DIRECTION OF TAE KWON DO AND EXCEEDED IN EXPOSE INGING THE AS EARLY AS 1994. THE PURSUIT OF SANCTIONS HAVE PROVED TO BE B ELUSIVE WITH MANY VICTIMS HE HAS TAN TO REOPEN OLD WOUNDS AND RELUCTANT TO DISCUSS MATTERS ABOUT WHICH THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND PLAYERS WERE AWARE. SEVERAL VICTIMS EXPOSED COUNSEL THAT THEY COULD DO SO CONFIDENTLY. THE COMMITTEE HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN JEAN LOPEZ. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE USA TAE KWON DO SUBMITTED EVIDENCE TO THE FBI, SUGARLAND, TEXAS DEPARTMENT AND THE COLORADO SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT. WITH CREATION OF SAFE SPORT IN MARCH 17th, ALL CASES STILL PENDING AND CASES WERE TRANS TRANSFERRED. UNDER MY LEADERSHIP, USA HAS TAKEN EFFORTS TO BE IN ATHLETE PROTECTION. THESE INCLUDE THE IMMEDIATE REFERRAL OF ALL ALLEGATIONS SO SAFE SPOT. IF WE BELIEVE THERE IS A THREAT TO ATHLETES CURRENTLY. WE KNOW ENSURE LEADERSHIP CONTAINS BOTH GENDERS. B EVEN VENDORS WHO WERE WORKING OUR EVENTS. WHICH PROVIDES ALLEGATION ON SEXUAL MISCONDUCT. FINALLY, USA TAE KWON DO WILL HOST THE NOT IN MY SPORT CAMPAIGN WITH THE FWOEL OF INFORMING PARTICIPANTS AS TO WHAT IS ACCEPT BABLE BEHAVIOR AND WHAT IS A VIOLATION AND ALSO TO EMPOWER OUR ATHLETES AND MAKE THEIR STATEMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. THERE IS NO DOUBT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. THE ENTIRE OLYMPIC FAMILY MUST ENSURE THAT RESOURCES REMAIN AVAILABLE TO SAFE SPOT. ...

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00:44:42

CHAIRMAN HARPER, MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AFFORDING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY AND ENSURE USA VOL BY BALL'S COMMITMENT. I JOINED IN 2017 AND THAT N THAT TIME FRAME, ISK PROUD TO LEAD AN ORGANIZATION THAT RESPECTS ALL OF OUR PARTICIPANTS AND PLACES THE HIGHEST VALUE ON PERSONAL SAFETY BEFORE COUNTS. WE REPORT AND INVESTIGATE ANY ALLEGATION BROUGHT FORWARD AND WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO TAKE FORWARD ANY ANCHOR. THIS IS THE CORE OF OUR VALUES. USA VOLLEYBALL HAS LONG CHAMPIONED A CULTURE OF PARTICIPANTS. WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST TO IMPLEMENT A ROBUST SCREENING POLICY. BEGINNING IN THE 2004 AND 2005 SEASON. WE STARTED WORKING WITH CSSCI AND IMPLEMENTED A POLICY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND SCREENING. RECOGNIZING A NEED TO DO MORE TO PROTECT ATHLETES, US, VOLLEYBALL FORM EDED A COMMISSION. THIS COMMISSION SET OUT TO REVIEW THE CURRENT TRENDS AND BEST PRACTICES AND ATHLETE SURVEY TO PRODUCE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM TO COMMIT. INCLUDED DEVELOPING A PROCEDURE FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT. TWO, FORMLATING ACTIONS FOR REAL BEHAVIOR AND THREE, PROVIDING CONTINUAL EDGEUCATION TO PARENTS. THE COMMISSIONS WORK PAVED THE WAY FOR USA VOL BY BALL BEFORE IT WAS CALLED SAFE SPORT. AS I HOPE IS EVIDENCE, USA VOLLEY BILLION HAS LONG CONSIDERED THE SAFETY OF OUR ATHLETES TO A PRIORITY. THIS WAS NOT CREATED AS A RESPONSE TO HEADLINES OR BECAUSE OF MOUNTING PUBLIC SCRUTINY. WE RECOGNIZE PROTECTING OUR ATHLETES AND MEMBERS AT AS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CASE OF MR. RICK BUTLER. MR. BUTLER IS A WELL-KNOWN PRIVATE VOLLEYBALL CLUB OWNER AND COACH IN AURORA, ILLINOIS. HIS CLUB, SPORTS PERFORMANCE VOLLEYBALL, IS NOT OWNED OR OPERATED BY USA VOLLEYBALL, HOWEVER, ITS ATHLETES AND COACHES ARE REQUIRED TO BE B MEMBERS IF THEY WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN SANCTIONED EVENTS. IN 1995, ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WERE BROUGHT FORTH BY THREE WOMEN WHO WERE MEMBERS WHO PLAYED AT HIS CLUB. THE WOMEN CLAIMED THAT MR. BUTLER HAD A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IN THE 1980s WHILE HE WAS THEIR COACH AND WHILE THEY WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 18. AS A RESULT OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS, IN 1995, USA VOLLEY VOLLEYBALL FOUND MR. BUTLER VIOLATED THE RULES AND THEY VOTED TO BAN HIM FOR LIFE. AFTER FIVE YEARS PASSED AND UPON HIS REQUEST FOR REINSTATEMENT, THEY VOTED TO CONDITIONALLY REENSTATE HIM IN THE YEAR TO20 00 WITH HIS INABLEILITY TO EVER COACH EVENTS. TO BE CLEAR, REGARDLESS OF ALL THE HEADLINES SURROUND THG MATTER AND SINCE THE YEAR 1995, MR. BUTLER HAS BEEN BANNED FROM COACHING JUNIOR GIRLS, A CONDITION OF HIS LIFETIME BAN THAT NEVER CHANGED. FURTHER MORE, THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE A RESULT OF HIS ACTIVITIES AS A CLUB DIRECTOR AND COACH AND NOT A PART OF USA VOLLEYBALL NATIONAL TEAM PROGRAMS. IN LATE 2016, SEVERAL BRAVE WOMEN CAME FORWARD TO USA VOLLEY VOLLEYBALL TO PROVIDE NEW ALLEGATIONS DATING BACK TO THE 1980s.BASED ON THESE WOMEN'S CLAIMS, USA VOLLEYBALL FILED NEW CHARGES AND IN JANUARY 2018. THE ETHICS COMMITTEE HELD A HEARING REGARDING THESE ALLEGATIONS. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE VIOLATED THE RULE AND AS A RESULT, HE WAS BAN EDNED FROM TOTAL PARTICIPATION IN USA VOLLEYBALL FOR LIFE. OUR EFFORTS ARE APPLAUDED BY MICHIGAN NANCY HOGSHEAD. ONE OF THE MOST VOCAL ADVOCATES FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN SPORTS. H HER LETTER ADDRESSED TO ME, SHE WROTE IN PART, QUOTE, WE ARE REACHINGING OUT TODAY TO THANK YOU FOR BANNING RICK BUTLER FOR HIS SEXUAL PREDATION OF YOUNG GIRLS. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR STRONG COMMITMENT. WE ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT THESE EFFORTS WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE THE NEXT TIME A SPORTS ORGANIZATION HAS TO MAKE A CALL TO INVESTIGATE, HOLD A HEARING ON BAN A MEMBER IF NECESSARY. END QUOTE CH I DO NOT PRETEND WE HAVE BEEN PERFECT NOR DO I IGNORE THE FACT THERE ARE SOME OFFENDERS THAT ARE MISSED. IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION OF ANY MISCONDUCT, PAST OR PRESENT, CONTACT OUR OFFICES OR THE U.S. CENTER FOR SACH SPORT. WE'LL LISTEN AND ACT. WE WANT TO CREATE THE SAFEST, MOST ENJOYABLE ATMOSPHERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO A DAY WHEN THERE IS NO SEXUAL ABUSE OR MISCONDUCT IN VOLLEYBALL. WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS. ...

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00:50:10

THANK YOU. THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT.

00:50:14
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN HARPER IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE UNITED STATES CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. AN INDEPENDENT NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION IN DENVER, COLORADO. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. OUR CENTER IS DEDICATED TO MAKING ATHLETE WELL BEING THE CENTER PIECE THROUGH ABUSE PREVENTION PREVENTION, EDUCATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY. FAR TOO MANY F F OUR NATION'S ATH LEASELETES HAVE SUFFERED ABUSE AT THE HANDS OF PERPETRATORS WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SPORTS ENVIRONMENT WHERE ATHLETES FORM BONDS WITH THEIR COACHES, TRUSTED ADULTS AND TEAMMATES. AS YOU SAID, IF ONE ATHLETE IS ABUSED, IT'S ONE TOO MANY. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT SPORT AT ITS CORE BUILDING CHARACTER, PROMOTES HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND DEVELOPS SELF-CONFIDENCE. WE NEVER WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE VALUES. ON MARCH 3rd, 2017, WE OPENED OUR DOORS AN STARTED TAKING REPORTS ON DAY ONE. TODAY, YOU AREOUR OPERATIONS INCLUDE A NINE-MEMBER BOARD AND 14 EMPLOYEES. THANKS TO THE SUPPORT FROM CONGRESS AND LEADERSHIP OF BROOKS, WE WERE RECOGNIZED IN THE PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS FROM SEXUAL ABUSE AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT, WHICH BECAME LAW IN FEBRUARY. THE LAW REQUIRES ANYONE WORKING IN AMATEUR SPORT MUST REPORT THE SUSPECTED ABUSE OF MINORS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROHIBITS RETALIATION OF THOSE WHO CHOSE TO COME FORWARD. ADULTS WHO HAVE REGULAR CONTACT WITH MINORS MUST NOW COMPLETE MOHANNAD STORY TRAINING AND ADHERE TO BEST PRACTICE, POLL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES LIKE THE CODE. THE CODE SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES AND PROHIBITS ABUSE AND MISCONDUCT AND DEFINES THE PROCESS SURROUNDING REPORTING. REPORTS COULD BE MADE THROUGH THE CENTER'S WEBSITE OR BY CALLING OUR OFFICE. I WANT TO STRES TO ANYONE LISTENING. REPORTS CAN BE MADE ANONYMOUSLY. AND THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMB TAXS. THE SAFE OF THOSE WE SERVE IS OUR PRIOR THETY. OUR QUALIFIED INVESTIGATORS ARE DESIGNED TO HANDLE EACH REPORT WITH CARE OF TRAUMA INFORMED RESPONSE. BEFORE I GO INTO THE NUMBER, I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT WE NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT BEHIND THESE NUMBERS ARE PEOPLE. MEN, WOMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS DEALING WITH THE LINGERING EFFECTS OF ABUSE. IN OUR FIRST YEAR, WE RESPONDED TO MORE THAN 500 REPORTS. THIS YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT TO DOUBLE. THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE ARE GETTING 20 TO 30 REPORTS PER MONTH. NOW, WE'RE GETTING 20 TO 30 REPORTS PER WEEK. SO FAR, WE HAVE ISSUED 169 SANCTIONS. INCLUDING SANCTIONS 142 INDIVIDUALS WITH PERMANENT INELIGIBILITY. THAT'S NO SMALL DETAIL. 142 INDIVIDUALS ARE UNABLE TO COACH OR PARTICIPATE IN OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC SPORTS. THESE ADULTS ARE LISTED IN OUR ONLINE SEARCH BABLE DATABASE WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WANT TO USE IT. WE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS FOR VICTIMS TO COME FORWARD. OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE BUILDING TRUST WHILE ESTABLISHING A CULTURE WHERE EVERYONE FEELS SAFE, SUPPORTED AND EMPOWERED TO REPORT. WITH THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE TO END ALL FORMS OF ABUSE. IN ADDITION TO INVESTIGATING REPORTS, WE PROVIDE TRAINING FOR PARENTS AND YOUTH SPORT ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL LEVELS N. OUR FIRST YEAR, ALMOST 400,000 PEOPLE COMPLETED OUR ONLINE TRAINING. AND HURRICANES MORE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST AND ACCESSING IT. THIS PAST YEAR WAS STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. IN CLOSING, SPORT HAS THE POWER TO BE AN INCREDIBLY POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON PARTICIPANTS, COMMUNITIES AND OUR NATION. I THANK YOU FOR HELPING US US TO PRIORITIZE OUR MISSION TO END ABUSE. THANK YOU. ...

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00:55:09

CHAIR WILL NOW BEGIN THE QUESTIONS BY THE MEMBERS AND WE ARE GOING TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE CONTENTS OF THE DOCUMENT BINDER BE INTRODUCEDED INTO THE RECORD AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO MAKE ANY APPROPRIATE REDAXS. WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE ENTERED IN WITHOUT REDAXS THAT STAFF DETERMINES ARE APPROPRIATE. IF I MAY ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. DOES THE USOC SEE ITSELF AS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING AND EBBNFORCING POLICIES THAT KEEP ATHLETES SAFE? ...

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00:55:46

YES, I THINK WE VIEW OURSELVES RESPONSIBLE. IF WE'VE HAD A FAIL, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T ACCESSED OUR AUTHORITY.

00:56:01

IS ATET A TOP PRIORITY?

00:56:06

IT IS.

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I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT AND VIEW IT THAT WAY BUT WE'RE ALL WORRIED IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT BIND ERER THAT'S BEFORE YOU THERE AN AND TURN TO TAB ONE. YOU'LL SEE AN ARTICLE DATED FEBRUARY 23rd OF 2018. IT REFERENCES A DEPOSITION IN A LAWSUIT IN WHICH A TAE KWON DO ATHLETE ALLEGED SHE WAS RAPED BY HER KOEFCOACH. GARY JOHANNSENS WAS ASKED WHETHER PROTECTING ATHLETES FROM ABUSE FROM ABUSE. HIS RESPONSE, THE USOC DOES NOT HAVE ATHLETES. DOES THE USOC BELIEVE IT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE NGBs TOIMPLEMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES? ...

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00:56:59

YES, I BELIEVE THE ACT DOES GRANT THAT AUTHORITY.

00:57:05

THE USOC PROVIDES NGBs WITH SUPPORT AND IN SOME INSTANCES, THE UCOB HAS PROVIDED CHANGES.

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THAT'S CORRECT.

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HOWEVER, EACH NGB HAS THEIR OWN STRUCTURE AND BYLAWS IN POLICY. AS I MENTIONED, YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF F THE POLICIES AND PROCEEDDURES IN THE WORLD AND IF THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED, THEY'RE NOT DOING MUCH GOOD. USOC ENGAGED BAKER TILLEY TO PROVIDE AUDITS OF THE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATIONS TO ASSESS THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH SAFE SPORT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THE AUDIT REPORTS FOR EACH ORGANIZATION WERE ISSUED LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER 2017, SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE FOUND TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SAFE SPORT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBSERVATIONS. BUT MANY WERE FOUND TO HAVE DE DEFICIENCIES. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY AUDITS FOUND DEFICIENCIES? ...

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YES, IN FACT AT THAT TIME, THE MAJORITY HAD DEFICIENCIES, HOWEVER, I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT ALL ARE NOW IN COMPLIANCE.

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WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT 43 HAS DEFICIENCYIES?

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CORRECT.

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THE AUDIT ITSELF FOUND A NUMBER OF DEFICIENCIES FOR USOC. IF YOU COULD TURN TO TAB TWO IN YOUR NOTEBOOK THERE. IN B TAB TWO, YOU'LL SEE THAT AUDIT AUDIT, THESE INCLUDED A LACK OF GUIDANCE ON CONFIDENTIAL REPORTING BY SURVIVORS, TRAINING AND BACKGROUND CHECKS TO NAME A FEW. UNLIKE THE NGBs WITH DEFICIENCIES, HOWEVER, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN A FOLLOW UP AUDIT OF THE USCO SRKSUSO KRRK.C. DO YOU PLAN THE TO CONDUCT A FOLLOW UP AUDIT IN. ...

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CAN I HAVE A MOMENT?

00:59:03

YES, MA'AM.

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HAVING LOOKED AT THIS, IT IS REQUIRED WE SHOULD DO THE SAME WE EXPECT. WE SHOULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP AUDIT. WHAT ABILITY DOES THE USOC HAVE TO ENFORCE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. ...

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00:59:36
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

ONE OF THE AREAS WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND THIS IS WHY WE'VE INTRODUCED A GOVERNANCE REVIEW IS THAT WE HAVE TWO MAIN LEVERS. WE CAN TAKE AWAY FUNDING AND DESERT. OUR MAIN ACTIVITY IS TO DECIDE IF AN NGB IS DESERT FI EDED. ...

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00:59:53
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF TOOLS AT YOUR DISPOSAL. YOU KNOW, WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD IT TAKE TO WARRANT THAT THE USOC TAKE SUCH ACTIONS? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SEE? WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO SEE IN BEHAVIOR BY AN NGB TO DESERT OR WITHHOLD FUNDS? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? ...

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01:00:19
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

A NUMBER OF THINGS. THEY INCLUDE THE ABLE TOY MANAGE EFFECTIVELY. WE LOOK FOR THEM TO HAVE APPROPRIATE FINANCIAL CONTROLS AND IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE ADDED THE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT THEY MEET ALL OF THE SAFE SPORT STANDARDS THEY HAVE JUST IMPLEMENTED ALL OF IF NEW LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE LEGISLATION, SO WE HAVE ADDED TO OUR LIST OF COMPLIANCE THAT THEY MUST HAVE THESE SAFE SPORT PROTECTIONS AND WE AUDIT AGAINST THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS NOW. ...

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01:00:49

CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE ONE COMMITTEE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:00:53
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'D LOICK TOIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTIONING. THERE'S ROUGH LYLY 49 AND AS WE HEARD TODAY FROM A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE, EVERY GROUP HAS THEIR OWN GOVERNING PRINCE P PRINCIPLES. IS THAT CORRECT? ...

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01:01:14

KREK.

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THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS SO THEY CAN HAVE AN OVERRIDING PROTOCOL FOR COMPLAINT OF THIS NATURE.

01:01:28

YES, I TOTALLY AGREE.

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THAT'S ONE REASON WHY CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT WAS FOUNDED IN MARCH OF 2017. JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. IS THAT RIGHT IS THIS.

01:01:41

CORRECT.

01:01:41
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

NOW, I WANT TO TURN TO YOU, MICHIGAN BECAUSE YOU TESTIFIED THAT LAST YEAR, THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT HAD ABOUT 20 TO 30 COMPLAINTS PER MONTH. THIS YEAR, IT'S 20 TO 30 PER WEEK AND YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 800 REPORTS PENDING RIGHT NOW. IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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NO, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE'VE HAD 800, OVER 800 TOTAL REPORTS TO COME IN. SINCE WE OPENED OUR DOORS.

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Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

IN THE ROUGHLY 14 MONTHS, YOU'VE HAD 800 REPORTS. NOW, IN MAY 17th SUBMISSION, SAFE SORT REPORT SPORT REPORTED THAT THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE PROVIDED $2.7 MILLION IN 2017 AND IS GOING TO PROVIDE $3.1 MILLION IN 2018 AND $3.1 MILLION FOR 2019. SAME AMOUNT. IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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01:02:33

YES, MA'AM.

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Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

NOW, GETTING BACK TO MY, TO YOUR TESTIMONY, I THINK YOU HAD SAID EVER SINCE THE ME TOO MOVEMENT, YOU TOLD ME THIS YESTERDAY. EVER SINCE THE ME TOO MOVEMENT, THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT HAS SEEN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS SKYROCKET. IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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01:02:57

BETWEEN THE ME TOO MOVEMENT AND NASSAR TRIAL.

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AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE PEOPLE REALIZE THEY CAN REPORT. PRZ AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IS THAT RIGHT?

01:03:06

YES, MA'AM.

01:03:08

NOW SO YOU, YOU GET MONEY FROM THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE FOR YOUR FUNDING. YOU ALSO GET MONEY FROM THE DIFFERENT NOBs ACCORDING TO A SCHEDULE FOR HOW MUCH THEY'RE GIVING. IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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YES. EACH NATIONAL GUARDING BODY GIVES US A FEE BASED ON THEIR SIZE.

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NOW, WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW?

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RIGHT NOW, IT'S LITTLE OVER H 4-.6 BILLION.

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AND HOW MANY INVESTIGATORS DO YOU HAVE?

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INTERNALLY, WE HAVE FIVE FULL TIME INVESTIGATORS, PLUS THREE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT STAFF. WE HAVE SEVEN EXTERNAL CONTRACTED INVESTIGATORS AS WELL.

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SO YOU HAVE ROUGHLY 13.

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12 OR 13. PEOPLE. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT'S SUFFICIENT WITH THE INCREASE IN COMPLAINTS TO THOR LOWROWRY INVESTIGATE EVERY COMPLAINT?

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NO. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU FOR A MINUTES BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH YOU YESTERDAY. DO YOU BELIEVE THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT HAS SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE ALL OF THESE COME PLAPTS THAT THEY'RE GETTING? ...

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OOIT NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ENTIRE BUDGET, BUT THEY CAN USE MORE.

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NOW, OVER AT YOUR ORGANIZATION, YOU GIVE $50,000 A YEAR TO CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT. IS THAT RIGHT?

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AND YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE MORE. IS THAT CORRECT?

01:04:38

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER NGBs AND BASED ON WHO WE ARE, P IF WE CAN PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES, WE WILL.

01:04:44

NOW MRS. LYONS, THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT TAX FILING, THE ORGANIZATION'S REVENUES ARE IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLL DOLLARS. IS THAT CORRECT? ...

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01:04:56

CORRECT.

01:04:56
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

AND SO I WANT TO ASK YOU, ARE YOU COMMITTED TO GIVING THE FULL FUNDING THAT SAFE SPORT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THOROUGH LYLY ALL THE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE MANY COMPLAINTS THEY'RE RECEIVING? ...

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YES, AND OUR BOARD HAS SAID IF THEY EXPRESS ADDITIONAL NEED, WE'LL REVISIT THAT.

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AND MRS. FAULT, ARE YOU ENGAGING OUTSIDE EVALUATORS TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF A BUDGET THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DO A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION?

01:05:27

YES, WE ARE.

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WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT INFORMATION?

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WE, I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD IN THE NEXT SIX WEEK, BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW.

01:05:38
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

LET ME JUST SAY, THIS COMMITTEE IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION WAS ESTABLISHEDED TO DO AND IT APPEAR THAT IS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ATHLETIC COMMUNITY IS. AND SO WHATEVER MONEY YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY DO YOUR WORK, PLEASE LET US MOE AND WE WILL HELP WORK WITH YOU AND THE USOC AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO REVOLVING ALL OF THE ISSUES RELATING TO THESE VICTIMS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. ...

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THANK YOU, MA'AM.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

01:06:15

NOW RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN WALDEN, THE CHAIR OF FULL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MRS. LYONS. THERE APPEARS TO BE A HISTORY OF THE USOC KNOWING ABOUT ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND DOING NOTHING. OVER THE YEARS, THEY HAVE TAKE AN NUMBER OF POSITIONS ON HOW MUCH AUTHORITY IT HAS TO PROTECT LEETS. THEY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE QUOTE ATHLETES, CLOSED QUOTE THARKS THE TED STOOEMPBS ACT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO MANDATE THAT THE NGBs TAKE AX ON THIS ISSUE. AS RECENTLY AS 2016, THE OFFICIALS SAID IN A DEPOSITION THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO QUOTE DO ANYTHING CLOSE QUOTE IF USOC WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF ATHLETES. I WANT TO ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE U USOC WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING ATHLETES? ...

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01:07:12

I THINK THE ACT GIVES US A MUCH BROADER AUTHORITY THAN WE HAVE EXERCISE ND THE PAST.

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SO ONE OF THE CONCERN THAT IS THE COMMITTEE HAS HEARD SURVIVORS IS THAT THE USO KRRKSC IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT OWN REPUTATION ABOUT MEDALS AND MONEY THAN IT IS ABOUT ATHLETE'S SAFETY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TURN TO TAB THREE IN THE BINDER, THE EXHIBIT BINDER. AS YOU'RE FINDING THAT, I'LL JUST MENTION THIS IS A USOC POLL DOCUMENT ON ATHLETE SAFETY ISSUED JUST LAST MONTH. TAB THREE. IF YOU'LL TURN TO PAGE SEVEN OF TAB THREE, THERE IS A LIST OF SIX ITEMS THAT A REVIEW PANEL OF USOC OFFICIALS WILL CONSIDER QUOTE UNQUOTE IN DECIDING A COMPLAINT AND IMPOSE INGING A SANCTION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY ONE OF THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER IS IS AND I QUOTE, THE EFFECT ON THE USOC'S REPUTATION. ...

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I HAVE TO ADMIT TO NOT HAVING SEEN THAT BEFORE AND I HAVE TO SAY IT DOES NOT BELONG ON THAT LIST.

01:08:27
Greg Walden, R-OR Greg Walden, R-OR

APPRECIATE THAT CANDIDATEOR. THIS WAS NOT THE ONLY DOCUMENT ON USOC'S REPUTATION. THERE'S SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN THE SAFE SPORT POLICY FROM JUNE OF 2017. THAT WOULD BE ON TAB FOUR. AND IN THE USOC'S TRAINING ACCESS PROTOCOL FROM 2011, TAB FIVE. WHEN THE USOC AND NGBs WOULDHAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING COMPLAINTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE ABUSE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THOSE. AND ACT APPROPRIATELY. ...

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01:08:57
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

THANK YOU. WE WILL. I'M HEARTENED BY THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE REPUTATION DOES NOT PLAY A REELOLE IN SAFE SPORT DECISIONS. A FACTOR QUOTE UNQUOTE RELEVANT TO DETERMINING AN APPROPRIATE SANCTION IS THE AND I QUOTE, REAL OR PERCEIVED IMPACT OF THE INCIDENT ON THE REPORTING PARTY NGP, NGBs OR USOC. TAB 30, PAGE NINE. AGAIN, WHY IS THE IMPACT ON THE NGB OR USOC A FACTOR IN CONSIDERING WHETHER A SAFE SPORT VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED AND WHETHER TO ISSUE A SANCTION. THAT WOULD BE TAB 30 ON PAGE 9. ...

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01:09:49
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

I BELIEVE THIS IS REFERENCING THAT IF CONDUCT IS SUCH THAT IT REFLECTS POORLY ON THE SPORT THAND THOSE THAT SUPPORT THE SPORT THEN THAT -- MEANING THAT POOR CONDUCT. AND ITS POOR REFLECTION ON THE SPORT MATTERS. ...

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01:10:24
Greg Walden, R-OR Greg Walden, R-OR

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE DO A LOT OF LEGISLATING AROUND HERE AND WORDS MATTER. YOU THINK THEY ARE WHAT I THINK THEY ARE. TWO OR THREE OR FOUR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY MAY GO, IF I DO THAT, THAT MAY REFLECT POORLY ON THE ORGANIZATION IF WORD GETSES OUT. I WOULD CAUTION YOU THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MAY THINK IT IS, BUT YOU BETTER BE DARN WELL CLEAR THAT THE PATIENT'S SAFETY COMES FIRST I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE HEADED. I RESPECT THAT, BUT IT CLEARLY IS NOT WHERE WE WERE IN THE PAST. ...

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01:11:01

ABSOLUTELY.

01:11:08

WE WORK FOR ATHLETES.

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I'LL YIELD BACK.

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CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM FLORIDA FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:11:19
Kathy Castor, D-FL Kathy Castor, D-FL

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN HARPER. I WANT TO FOCUS ON WHETHER THE CULTURE OF WINNING ABOVE ALL ELSE INCREASES THE RISK OF ATHLETE ABUSE. BUT FIRST, LET ME SAY IT IS HORRENDOUS IT HAS TAKEN A SCANDAL OF SUCH EPIC PRO,PORTIONS WHERE HUNDREDS OF GIRLS IN U.S. GYMNASTICS WERE ABUSED BY A DOCTOR TO GET TO THIS POINT. BUT ACCORD INGING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE ATTORNEY WAS CEO EZDE POSED IN 2016 WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE PRIORITIES, HE STATED THE USOC HAS A LOT OF PRIORITIES. CHIEF AMONG THEM IS SENDING ATHLETES TO THE OLYMPICS AND DOING WELL. WHEN ASKED WHETHER PROTECTING ATHLETES, THIS LAWYER REPORTEDLY SAID THE USOC DOESN'T HAVE ATHLETES, IMPLYING THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ATHLETE WELFARE. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THESE REMARKS. CORRECT? ...

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01:12:13

I AM.

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Kathy Castor, D-FL Kathy Castor, D-FL

I FRMLY BELIEVE AS MANY DO, THAT THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE HAS A RESPONSIBLEILITY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF ATHLETES. IN FEBRUARY, YOU RELEASED STATEMENT OUTLINING SEVEN STEPS YOU INTEND TO TAKE TO ENSURE A SAFE SPORTS ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING AN EFFORT TO QUOTE IMPLEMENT A CULTURE CHANGE AT USA GYMNASTICS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS? YOU'VE GIVEN US SPECIFICS, BUT TELL US REALLY WHAT YOU SEE THE, WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD HERE?. ...

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01:12:51
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

WE BELIEVE PERFORMANCE AND SAFETY GO HAND IN HAND. WE DON'T BELIEVE ATHLETES CAN PERFORM AT THEIR BEST UNLESS THEY'RE IN A SAFE, RESPECTFUL TRAINING ENVIRONMENT. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE IN THE CULTURE AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE MOVEMENT. NOT JUST WITHIN GYMNASTICS AN MISS PERRY IS DOIPG A LOT OF WORK, WE HAVE TO PUT THAT SAFETY MUCH MORE FRONT AND CENTER. ...

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BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN A CULTURE OF PROTECT THE COACH AND NOT PROTECT THE ATHLETE. FOR EXAMPLE, WHY, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN THE POLICY AND WILL IT BE THE POLICY OF ACTUALLY REFERRING THESE CASES AND COMPLAINTS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEY HAPPEN? ...

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01:13:27

WELL, IT IS NOW THE LAW THAT THOSE TYPE OF CASE MUST BE REMANDED TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO DOES NOT DO SO IS VIOLATING A FEDERAL LAW. IT ISICALLY IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT -- ...

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01:13:42

HOW HAVE YOU COMMUNICATED THAT?

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RECEIVED THAT. THEY HAVE MADE THE CHANGES WITHIN THEIR BYLAWS AND OTHER MATERIALS. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE B UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CENTER AND...

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01:13:54
Kathy Castor, D-FL Kathy Castor, D-FL

THIS CULTURE CHANGE IS A KEY PART OF SAFE SPORT'S MISSION. YOU OUTLINED SPECIFIC STEPS THAT SAFE SPORT IS TAKING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. IT'S CHEERILYLEARLY NEEDED. MUHAO OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY SOUNDS GOOD, BUT I'M WORRIED WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO KNOW WHETHER THINGS WILL ACTUALLY GET BETTER. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS WHETHER OR NOT SAFE SPORT IS ACTUALLY INDEPENDENT, WHAT CAN YOU TELL US TO ASSURE US THAT YOU'RE ACTING INDEPENDENTLY AND MOVING AWAY FROM THE CULTURE OF PROTECT THE COACH AND ARGS ORGANIZATION TO PROTECT THE ATHLETE. ...

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01:14:34
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT NINE PERSON BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT MEET A HIGH STANDARD OF INDEPENDENCE INDEPENDENCE. THEY HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. THEY COME FROM ETHICS, AN ETHICS COMPLIANCE WORLD. SOME OF THEM AND THE LIKE. SO THEY HOLD THIS TO A HIGH STANDARD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR INVESTIGATORS ARE THE SAME. WHEN WE TAKE ON A CASE, WHEN WE TAKE IN A REPORT, WE DO THAT IN AN INDEPENDENT, CONFIDENT AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER. AND WE ACT ACCORDINGLY. ...

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01:15:07
Kathy Castor, D-FL Kathy Castor, D-FL

SO ONE OF THE ISSUES IN THE WORKPLACE BUT I'M SURE IT APPLIES HERE, IS RETALIATION. THAT YOU'LL HAVE AN ATHLETE THAT WILL COME FORWARD WITH A COMPLAINT, BUT THE ORGANIZATION OR COACH MAY THEN HEAR ABOUT IT SOME WAY OR THERE MIGHT BE RUMORS THEN THEY DON'T GET TO COMPETE. WHAT IS BEING DONE TO ADDRESS RETALIATION AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ATH LEES ARE PROTECTED FROM IT? ...

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01:15:35
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. RETALIATION IS A VIOLATION OF THE SAFE SPORT CODE AND IS SUBJECT TO SANCTION AND THE NEW LAW, THE PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT PUT SOME TEETH INTO THAT AND PROPROVIDES FURTHER PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE COMING FORWARD. BOTH REPORTING PARTIES AS WELL AS WITNESSES. ...

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01:15:57

WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT RE REFERRALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT? WHEN A PARENT OR AN ATHLETE COMES FORWARD WITH A VERY SERIOUS COMPLAINT? ARE YOU REFERRING THOSE TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IMMEDIATE LYLY? ...

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01:16:10
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE MANDATORY REPORTERS, SO WE IMMEDIATELY CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN CALLED. WE ARE DOUNL CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CALLED AND OF COURSE WE LET THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PLAY OUT. AT ALL LEVELS, IF YOU WILL. THEN WE LOOK AT WHETHER BREACH TOOK PLACE. ...

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01:16:37

HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR YOU TO IMPLEMENT THIS CULTURE CHANGE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO YOU AND KEEP AN EYE. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU.

01:16:47

GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. BARTON, IF FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:16:55
Joe Barton, R-TX Joe Barton, R-TX

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING, VOLUNTARILY IN THIS HEARING. IT'S, WE HAVE LOT OF HEARING, BUTS, BUT NOT MANY ARE AS IMPORTANT AS THIS ONE. I'M GOING TO READ FROM SOME PREPARED QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND I'M GOING TO BASEICALLY ASK THE SAME QUESTION THE THREE OF YOU. THE FIRST QUESTION TO SUSAN LYONS. THE COMMITTEE HAS ASKED ALL 48 NGBs, REPORTS OR COMPLIANTS OF JENKS YUL ABUSE MADE TO THE NGB AND HANDLING OF THAT INFORMATION END QUOTE. ALMOST EVERY ONE HAS RESPONDED IN SOME FASHION THAT THEY NOT ALWAYS TRACK SUCH INFORMATION. THE REPORT COMPLIANT OR ALLEGATIONS. MRS. LYONS, DOES IT CONCERN YOU THAT NGBs APPARENTLY HAVE NOT ONLY TRACKED SUCH INFORMATION? ABOUT COMPLAINTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE? ...

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YES, THAT'S A CONCERN. THERE WAS NO RULE, IS NO RULE TAT MOMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REPORTED TO US AS WELL. THEY HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE CENTER AND WE ARE NOW U GETTING REPORTS FROM THE CENTER. ...

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01:18:23

WHY DOES NOT OR DID NOT THE USOC REQUIRE SUCH INFORMATION, EACH NGB TO TRACK AND MONITOR THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION?

01:18:32
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

I THINK THE WAY WE OPERATED WITH THE NGBs IN THE PAST WAS DIFFERENT.THERE WAS MUCH MORE AUTONOMY AND WE DID NOT EXERCISE THE AUTHORITY THAT I THINK THE ACT GIVES US. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A GOVERNANCE REVIEW THAT I AM SURE WILL RESULT IN US HAVING A MUCH BETTER FEEDBACK LOOP AND FOLLOWING UP. ...

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01:18:50

ARE YOU NOW REQUIRING THAT SUCH INFORMATION BE TRACKED?

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WE WILL BE. WE ARE NOT YET CH! WHEN IS YOUR TIMETABLE?

01:18:59

OUR GOVERNANCE REVIEW IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ROLLING AN I'M CERTAIN THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WILL OCCUR.

01:19:04
Joe Barton, R-TX Joe Barton, R-TX

NEXT QUESTION. IS TO CARRIE PERRY. THAT'S A NICE NAME. CARRIE PERRY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE STILL TRYING TO COMPILE DATA AND THAT SO YOU CAN PROVIDE COMMITTEE WITH THE AGGREGATE NUMBER OF REPORTS MADE BY U SRKSSA GYMNASTICS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS? ...

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01:19:41
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

YES, SIR. SO SINCE I STARTED IN DECEMBER, ONE OF THE FIRSTLING THINKS I LOOKED AT IS THE -- I DISCOVERED THERE WASN'T A LOT OF GREAT DATA. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU SINCE THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE ARE EMBARKED ON A JOURNEY TO TRACKING AND KEEPING RECORDS OF EVERYTHING INVESTIGATING BY THE CENTER, SENT TO THE CENTER OR GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AT USA GYMNASTICS. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT AS OF JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THROUGH APRIL, USA GYMNASTICS AT 275 CASES. 78 WENT TO THE CENTER FOR SEXUAL ABUSE. WE HAVE RECENTLY SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH A VENDOR. IN FACT, THE SAME THAT THE CENTER USING. BECAUSE FOR ME, IT WAS, IT WAS NEEDED INFORMATION AND I WANT EDED TO ENSURE THAT IMMEDIATELY. ...

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01:21:03

WHEN DO YOU THINK YOUR NEW SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE FULLY IMPLEMENT EDED?

01:21:08
Joe Barton, R-TX Joe Barton, R-TX

WE ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE RIGHT NOW. SO WE BELIEVE IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. WE ARE TRACKING ALL OF THE ALLEGATIONS COME GING THROUGH IN A DATABASE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED INTERNALLY. SFL MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR MR. McNALLY.IN YOUR RESPONSE LETTER, YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS ADD A MITTED IT'S FAILED TO FULLY COMPLY WITH TRACK INFORMATION ABOUT ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE INCLUDING ORAL REPORTS. WHAT TYPE OF COMPLAINTS IF ANY, DID TWI KWON DOE TRACK? ...

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01:21:52
Joe Barton, R-TX Joe Barton, R-TX

SO, THE SORRY. THE RESPONSE I FOUND WERE THE ONES THIS WENT THROUGH THE HEARING PROCESS. VERY LITTLE INFORMATION IF ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T PROCEED TO THAT STAGE. WHAT'S TAE KWON DO'S EFFORT RIGHT NOW TO COMPILE THIS INFORMATION TO TRACK IT AND FOLLOW UP ON IT? ...

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01:22:21

INS .

01:22:23

I OVERTOOK DATABASE AND WE REACHED TOUT USOC TO SEE IF THEY WERE INTERESTED. WE SPOKE TO THEIR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER AND ONE OF THEIR ANALYSTS IS WORKING ON THE -- ...

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01:22:37

SO IT IS AN ACTIVE ITEM.

01:22:38

VERY MUCH SO. YEAH. WE NEED MORE HISTORICAL INFORMATION, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE NOTHING SLIPS THROUGH THE CRACKS AGAIN.

01:22:44

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCRETION.

01:22:47

CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE RANKING MEMBER, MR. PALLONE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:22:52
Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ

ALL MY QUESTIONS ARE A FALL AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THEM QUICKLY IF I CAN. I UNDERSTAND THAT SINCE 2017, THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING COMPLAINTS REGARDING SEXUAL MISCONDUCT. I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TODAY SO WE CAN LEARN HOW SAFE SPORT OPERATES. THE FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU WOULD BRIEFLY WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SAFE SPORT RECEIVES A COMPLAINT FROM AN ATH ALITO. I KNOW THIS PROBABLY VARIES ON THE TYPE OF COMPLAINT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT TAKES PLACE? ...

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01:23:28

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE PALLONE.

01:23:30
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

SO WHEN A CALL OR IF A REPORT COMES IN THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, HOWEVER IT COMES IN, COULD BE AN E-MAIL, ANONYMOUSLY, A THIRD PARTY. WE ARE IMMEDIATELY TRIAGEING THOSE REPORTS. WE LOOK FOR DO WE NEED TO CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO IN AS SEXUAL ABUSE OF A MINOR PART OF THAT REPORT. WE IMMEDIATELY CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THAT'S THE CASE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IS SOMEONE IN HARM'S WAY. IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WILL IMMEDIATELY IMPOSE AN INTERNAL MEASURE OR SUSPENSION SUSPENSION. FROM THERE, THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUES WITH A QUALIFIED INVESTIGATOR THAT IS VERSED AND TRAUMA INFORMED INVESTIGATIONS. WE OF COURSE TALKING TO THE REPORTING PARTY AS WELL AS THE RESPONDING PARTY OR THE ALLEGED INDIVIDUAL. FOR WHICH THE REPORT IS ON. FROM THERE, DPENAGAIN, CLEGTING MAKES FROM THEM, FROM WITNESSES, SOMETIMES, THERE ARE A LOT OF WITNESSES. SOMETIMES NOT. SO THAT IMPACTS THE LENGTH OF THE INVESTIGATION. ...

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01:24:45

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR YOU TO COMPLETE AN INVESTIGATION TYPICALLY? ZPL IT DEPENDS. ON ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. HOW MANY INVESTIGATIONS. ARE THERE MORE THAN ONE REPORTING PARTY? HOW FAR BACK DOES IT GO. ALL THOSE THINGS WEIGH IN. WE'RE AVERAGING 63 DAYS FROM START TO FINISH. AVERAGE. SOME ARE MUCH LONGER. SO MUCH ARE SHORTER. ...

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01:25:00

WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY ON HOW A CASE IS REVOLVE EDD?

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Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

WE HAVE A DIRECTOR OF VEST DPAGSS AND DECISIONS THAT ONCE THE, ONCE OUR INVESTIGATORS DO THEIR WORK? AND WE DEAL WITH PACKS. WE HAVE A FAIR PROCESS WHERE BY THE FACTS ARE GATHERED, THEY GO IN THE FORM OF A REPORT TO THE DIRECTOR OF INVESTIGATIONS. HE IS DETERMINE INGING WHETHER A BREACH OF THE SAFE SPORT CODE TOOK PLACE. IF BREACH TOOK PLACE, THEN A SANCTION IS ADMINISTERED AND THAT SANCTION COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A WARNING TO A PERMANENT INVEL BIN INELIGIBILITY. THERE ARE ARBITRATIONS. ...

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01:25:45
Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH ALL THIS, BUT YOU MENTIONED A REFERRAL TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. MR. McNALLY'S REPORT DESCRIBES CHALLENGES, SUCH AS BEING TOLD LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT WANT A TARGET TO KNOW THAT HE OR SHE IS BEING INVESTIGATED. WHA STEPS CAN SAFE SPORT TAKE TO PROTECT ATHLETES WHILE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS INVESTIGATING A CASE AND DOES SAFE SPORT TAKE TEP IS STEP TO KEEP ATH ALITOLETES INFORM SND. ...

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01:26:24
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. WE WOULD WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT IS TRUE DEPENDING ON CASE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MAY WANT US TO NOT WORK ON THE INVESTIGATION FORMALLY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PROTECT ATHLETES, SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM, LET THEM KNOW THAT LOOK, WE NEED TO PUT IN AN INTERIM MEASURE, SO THAT ATHLETES ARE PROTECTED AND ATHLETES SAFETY COMES FIRST. ...

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01:26:54
Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ Frank Pallone Jr., D-NJ

ALL RIGHT AND LET ME JUST SKIP OVER. I WANTED TO ASK ONE MORE THING. I UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF COMPLAINTS SAFE SPORT MANAGING REQUIRES A COMPLETE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. THE CONCERN IS THAT SOME MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS AND THIS LACK OF UNDERSTANDING MAY KEEP SOME HAVE COMING FORWARD. SO WHAT STEPS HAS SAFE SPORT TAKEN TAKEN, WHAT STEPS HAS SAFE SPORT TAKEN TO EXBPLAIN HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL THE BODIES HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTAND OF YOUR AUTHORITY SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY NOT HESITATE TO COME FORWARD? ...

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01:27:33
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

I THINK WE'RE STILL IN THAT STAGE OF GETTING THE WORD OUT AND BUILDING TRUST AMONG REALLY THE 13 MILLION INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PART OF THE OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC MOVEMENTS. ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH OUR PREVENTION WORK AS WELL. THE ONLINE TRAININGS. EDUCATION. THE USOC HAS HELPED US WITH A COUPLE OF PSAs THAT ARE BEING SHOWN, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THESE SORTS OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH ALL OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNORING BODIES AND USOC BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO ALL THEIR MEMBERS. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF THE NGBs. THAT'S BEING WORKED OUT NOW. ...

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01:28:25

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME CONGRESSMAN DOUG LAMBBORN FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO. GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND CHAIR WILL NOW RECKOGNIZE THE VICE CHAIR -- SFWL HIS DISTRICT INCLUDES THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE. ...

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01:28:45

IN COLORADO SPRINGS. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THE CHAIR WOULD NOW RECOGNIZE THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. MR. GRIFFITH, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:28:51
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. MRS. LYONS. IF YOU TURN TO TAB SEVEN, YOU'LL SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE WORKING GROUP FOR SAFE TRAINING ENVIRONMENTS. WHAT SPECIFIC EVENTS LED TO THE CREATION OF THE WORKING GROUP IN 2010? ...

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01:29:10
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

IT WAS CREATE ND THE AFTERMATH OF MANY OF THE SWIMMING ALLEGATIONS THAT CAME OUT IN 2010 AND WHILE THAT NGB BEGAN TO WORK ON THEIR OWN ISSUES, WE DEVELOPED A GROUP TO LOOK MORE BROADLY. ...

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01:29:28

THE USOC LAUNCHEDED SAFE SPORT IN 2012. AND IN 2013, THE USOC ESTABLISHED A SAFE SPORT GROUP AND THEY REMMED THAT CASE MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE CONSOLIDATED UNDER A NEW INDEPENDENT ENTITY WITH AN INDEPENDENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. IN EIGHT, THEY APPROVED THE CENTER IN 2014. THE CENTER WAS NOT LAUNCHED INTO MARCH 3rd, 2017. TELL ME WHY IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS SINCE THE WORKING GROUP WAS CREATED NEARLY THREE YEAR FRS THE USOC APPROVES THE CENTER UNTIL THAT CENTER WAS LAUNCHED? ...

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01:30:08
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

FIRST, LET ME SAY IT DID TAKE TOO LONG. THERE ARE SOME REASONS WHY IT TOOK A WHILE. FUNDING BEING ONE. INSURANCE ISSUES BEING ANOTHER. VERY COMPLICATED AND TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES TO DO THE EARLIER STEPS THAT PROCEEDED THE CENTER WHICH WAS TO PUT IN MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS AND TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE. BUT FRANKLY, IT TOOK TOO LONG AND WE REGRET IT DID NOT OPEN SOONER. MAY HAVE SAVED SOME OF THE TRAGEDY THAT OCCUR. ...

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01:30:37
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

GIVEN IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THE CENTER STARTED, DID THE USOC HANDLE ANY CASES OF OF MISCONDUCT FOR THE NATIONAL GOVERNORING BODIES OR ASSIST PRIOR TO THE CENTER'S LAUNCH IN MARCH OF 2017? ...

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01:30:55
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

THERE'S SORT OF AN ESCALATION PROCESS AND AT TIMES, IF AN ISSUE COULD NOT BE REVOLVED WITHIN A NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY, IT COULD COME AND BE ESCALATED AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE WOULD BECOME INVOLVED IN DURING THAT TIME AS WELL. IT IS FAR SUPERIOR FOR IT TO GO TO AN INDEPENDENT WODBOY DBOD KI AS IT DOES TODAY. ...

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01:31:20

WOULD THOSE CASE IF NG SOMETHING HAPPENED AND THERE WAS DISCIPLINARY ACTION SHOW UP ON THE CENTER'S WEBSITE? YOU CAN WHERE YOU CAN CHECK TO SEE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN DISCIPLINED. ...

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01:31:29
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

I THINK THE BANNED LISTS ARE INCOMPLETE. WE HAVE COUGH CONSISTENCY AMONGST THE NGBs COLLECTS THAT INFORMATION. IT NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER IN ONE DATABASE WHERE EVERYONE WILL HAVE TRANSPARENCY TO IT. THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. ...

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01:31:47
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

KEEPING WITH THAT. THE WORK YOU DID, YOU STARTED IN 2010 BEFORE THE CENTER WAS OPENED UP. ARE YOU CASES IN A DATABASE SO THEY CAN SEE WHO'S BEEN BANNED OR HAVE YOU GIVEN THAT INFORMATION TO THE CENTER AND YOU CAN SEARCH IT THERE? ...

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01:32:05
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

WE HAVE A BANNED LIST THAT'S P PUBLISHED OND OUR WEBSITE. SXWL BACK TO YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ONE IN. IS THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT FUNCTIONAL AS A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT ENTITY OR DOES THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT RELY ON THE USOC OR THE NGBs FOR ANY INVESTIGATIONAL PURPOSES? ...

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01:32:28

THE CENTER IS NOT RELYING ON US FOR INVESTIGATIONAL PURPOSES. WE ARE ASSISTING WITH FUNDING, BUT THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT BODY.

01:32:37
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

SO JUST FUNDING. NOT INVESTIGATING. SINCE THE INCEPTION OF YOUR SAFE SPORT PROGRAM IN THE FALL OF 2010. IS THAT ACCURATE? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY?

01:33:05

YES, CORRECT.

01:33:08
Tim Hinchey Tim Hinchey

AND USA, HOW HAVE URK SA SWIM'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES CHANGED REGARDING HOW YOU HANDLE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT CLAIMS SINCE THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT WAS LAUNCHED. ...

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01:33:25
Morgan Griffith, R-VA Morgan Griffith, R-VA

THERE HAVE BEEN 75 COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE GONE TO THE CENTER FROM OUR GOVERNING BODY. BUT THEY NOW HANDLE THE ADJUDICATION, THE INITIAL COMPLAINTS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT IT. ...

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01:33:48

WERE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT TIME OF TIME IT TOOK TO LAUNCH THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT?

01:33:58

AND YOU KNOW REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER TIME IT TOOK TO GET THE GROUP GOING, WHICH IS GREAT AN WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT, THESE ARE OUR PROBLEMS AND WE NEED TO STEP UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. ...

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01:34:08

YOU AND I ARE SWIMMERS AND WE LOVE THE SPORT AND THERE'S A LOT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA THETIVEOSITIVES WE'RE NOT OVER TODAY. I WISH I COULD TELL STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BENEFITTED. WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK. ...

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01:34:23

CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE MR. TELL TELLICO FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:34:36
Paul Tonko, D-NY Paul Tonko, D-NY

THANK YOU. TO PROVEETMOTE ATHLETE'S SAFETY. LAST YEAR, THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE RETAINED CONSULT INGING FROM BAKER TILLEY TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT OF THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND ALL NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES TO ASSESS THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW SAFE SPORT REQUIREMENTS. THE COMMITTEE'S CHIEF OF PARALYMPIC SPORT AND NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY OF ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TOLD THE COMMITTEE THERE WERE UNIQUE ONE-TIME AUDITS. MRS. LYONS. THE OCTOBER 2017 RECOMMEND THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE ADDRESS TEN AREAS IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT. I THINK THEY'RE REFERENCED IN B EXHIBIT TWO. WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM HAVING THOSE AUD ITDS CONDUCTED AND IMPLEMENTING THESE RECOMMEND DAYSES? WAS IT A USEFUL PROCESS? ...

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01:35:23

YES, IT'S A VERY USEFUL PROCESS AND I THINK AUDITS WILL BE A BIGGER PART OF WHAT WE DO GOING FORWARD. WHAT WE LEARNED AND PART OF THIS WAS AS WE WERE PUTTING IN NEW PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, ALL ARE DIFFERENT. SOME HAVE BETTER CAPE BABLE THEABLEILITIES TO BETTER ADOPT CHANGE. ALL OF THE NGBs HAVE NOW COME UP TO STANDARD AND BE REPEATING THAT AUDIT PROCESS ON A ROTATING BASIS TO ENSURE WE CONTINUE COMPLIANCE COMPLIANCE. ...

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Paul Tonko, D-NY Paul Tonko, D-NY

THEY FOUND TWO OF OUR WITNESSES TODAY HAS AREAS WHERE THEY NEEDED TO ENHANCE THE DESIGN OF THEIR SYSTEMS AN MAKE REM RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THEY COULD DO SO. SO THE VALUE CLEAR. I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASSESS POLICIES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE EFFECTIVE IN PROTECTING THE ATHLETES. SO I WANT TO ASK YOU IF HER ORGANIZATION PLANS TO UNDERTAKE REGULAR PERFORMANCE AUDITS TO ENSURE IT IS MEETING THE NEED OF THE MASSIVE SPORT ORGANIZING IT IS NOW CHARGED WITH PROTECTING. ...

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01:36:35
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE NEW LEGISLATION, THE PROTECTING YOUNG VICTIMS AND SAFE SPORT AUTHORIZATION ACT, CALLS ON THE CENTER TO PERFORM REGULAR AND RANDOM AUDITS OF THE NGBs AND SO YES, WE INTEND TO DO THAT. RESOURCES PERMITTING. ...

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01:36:53

AND WHAT IS THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT DOING TO SASZ HOW EFFECTIVE POLICIES ARE IN RECK REDUCING THE LIKELIHOOD OF ABUSE?

01:37:06
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION AS WELL. WE HAVE NOW AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT FIRM COMING IN, ACTUALLY TO GO THROUGH THE CASES THAT WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE MISSED. IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. SO ALREADY IN OUR JUST OVER OUR FIRST YEAR, WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOOK BACK AND SAY OG KAY, HOW DID WE DO. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT POLICIES. WE ARE ALWAYS B LOOKING FOR BEST PRACTICES AND WHEN WE SEE BEST PRACTICES AND NEW POLICIES THAT NEED TO BE PUT INTO PLACE, WE WILL DO SO. ...

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01:37:41

AND DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE REGULAR PERFORMANCE AUDITS OF SAFE SPORTS PERFORMANCE?

01:37:46

ABSOLUTELY.

01:37:47

AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO AUDIT HOW WELL THE SAFE SPORT SYSTEM IS PERFORM SOMETHING.

01:37:57

I WOULD SAY THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED. IN THAT AREA. IN TERMS OF SELF-AUDITS, IF YOU WILL. BUT OUR GOAL AND I KNOW IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR OUR BOARD, WE WILL FIND THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. ...

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THANK YOU. AND FINALLY, DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE REGULAR AUDITS DONE OF THE SPORTS GOVERNING BODIES TO ENSURE THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING THEIR SAFE SPORT POLICIES GOING FORWARD? ...

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01:38:23

YES, SIR. AS I MENTIONED, THAT IS CALLED FOR OF THE PANEL, BEYOND AUDITS, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PROTECT THE ATHLETES?

01:38:37
Tim Hinchey Tim Hinchey

I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, CONGRESSMAN, THAT WE NEED TO EMPOWER THE ATHLETES. WE NEED TO HEAR THEIR VOICES, GET THEM INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HADN'T DONE AT THE START OF OUR PROCESS, BUT SOMETHING WE LEARNED OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND WE INTEND TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD. ...

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01:38:56

THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND THANK YOU. AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT? WHAT'S THE STRUCTURE BY WHICH TO EMPOWER THEIR VOICES?

01:39:01

WE NEED TO INVITE THEM TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, AS AN EXAMPLE FOR US, WE STARTED A WORKING GROUP. IT'S A COMBINATION OF SOME OLYMPIC ATHLETES, ATHLETES, LOCAL COACHES, BOARD MEMBERS, SIX WOMEN AND FIVE MEN TO VET WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO. ...

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01:39:16

DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADD TO THAT STATEMENT?

01:39:19
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I THINK WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE AFTERMATH OF ABUSE. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO IS EDUCATION THAT PREVENTS ABUSE AND MUCH OF THE CENTER'S CHARGE GOING FORWARD IS THAT EDUCATION, WHICH GOES BEYOND THE NGBs AND THEIR MEMBERS. IT GOES DOWN TO EVERY GYM AND DOJO IN AMERICA WHERE A 6-YEAR-OLD IS TRAINING, WE NEED TO ENLIST THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, AND ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND GET PARENTS EDUCATED SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW EARLIER HOW TO SPOT THE SIGNS OF GROOMING AND SIGNS THAT MAY LEAD TO ABUSE SO THAT WE CAN STOP THE CASES BEFORE THEY OCCUR. ...

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01:39:51

THANKS SO MUCH. AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I YIELD BACK.

01:39:54

THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE DR. BURGES FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:39:58
Michael C. Burgess, R-TX Michael C. Burgess, R-TX

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME JUST SAY I'VE BEEN ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A LONG TIME, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS, AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT HEARINGS TO RESEARCH AND PREPARE FOR, AND I APPRECIATE SO MUCH EVERYONE PARTICIPATING TODAY BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT RIGHT. MR. GRIFFITH REFERENCED THE POSITIVE ASPECTS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SPOTLIGHT TODAY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE HEARING. I HAVE A UNIVERSITY IN MY DISTRICT, TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY, MY STAFF HANDED ME A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE FROM LAST MONTH, APRIL 16th. TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY SECURED THE PROGRAM'S 11th USA GYMNASTICS COLLEGIATE NATIONAL TITLE ON SATURDAY. AND REGISTERED THE HIGHEST SCORE EVER SEEN IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. CLEARLY YOU ALL ARE IN THIS FOR THE ATHLETES AND THAT'S FOR THE RIGHT REASON BECAUSE THE BENEFITS RETURNED FROM THESE PROGRAMS ARE SIGNIFICANT FOR THE ATHLETES THEMSELVES, THE COLLEGES THEY ATTEND AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY RESIDE. DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT FACT EVEN THOUGH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO IS JUST ASTONISHING IN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS. SO AS SOMEONE WITH A MEDICAL BACKGROUND, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME IS HOW A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL HAS CAUSED ALL OF THIS DAMAGE. AND THIS INDIVIDUAL LICENSED IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, BUT NOT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND UNDER OUR CURRENT LAW, STATES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LICENSING THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE WITHIN THEIR BORDERS. SO MISS LYONS AND MISS PERRY, AND I'LL ASK YOU, MISS PFOHL, I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME THING. THIS INDIVIDUAL, NOT LICENSED IN TEXAS, WAS PROVIDING SERVICES, CARE, WHATEVER HE DID, AT THE KAROLYI RANCH IN TEXAS, NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT ENSURING THE PHYSICIANS THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF YOUR ATHLETES ARE COMPLIANT WITH LICENSING OBLIGATIONS? AND MISS LYONS, WE'LL START WITH YOU AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MISS PERRY. ...

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01:42:33
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

I THINK THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE HAVE OUR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION UNDER WAY TO FIND OUT ACTUALLY HOW SOME OF THESE GAPS IN THE SYSTEMS OCCURRED. THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BACKGROUND CHECKS, MEDICAL CERTIFICATION CHECKS. I MAY HAVE TO DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE, THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LICENSING OF THEIR OWN PHYSICIAN, BUT THOSE CHECKS ARE MEANT TO HAPPEN. ...

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01:42:57
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

AND WE SEE WHAT A SERIOUS BREACH THIS WAS WHEN THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS CASE. AND MISS PERRY, I GUESS THAT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNS ON TO A TRAINING PROGRAM AT A RANCH LIKE THIS, PRESUMABLY THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CONSENT THAT'S ENTERED INTO. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? ...

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01:43:15
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, IT'S HORRIFIC. AND YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY THAT I WAKE UP, I THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE, AS AN ENTITY, THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT OUR ATHLETES? THAT'S WHY I TOOK THIS POSITION IN DECEMBER. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS MISS LYONS TALKED ABOUT, WAS FINDING OUT THE FACTS THAT COULD HAVE LED UP TO SUCH A HORRIBLE SITUATION. SO HAVING THE ROPES AND GRAY INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, TO LEARN, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GO DOWN THE RIGHT PATH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT IMMEDIATELY WAS THAT I DID NOT WANT OUR ATHLETES TO EVER RETURN TO A PLACE WHERE THEY HAD ABUSE. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE CLOSED THE RANCH. ...

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THANK YOU.

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Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. BUT ON A GO-FORWARD, I THINK IT REALLY DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT AS A NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY, WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING. WE LOOK AT OUR STRUCTURE, WE LOOK AT OUR POLICIES, WE LOOK AT OUR SYSTEMS, WE LOOK AT OUR MEDICAL. AND WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE REPRESENT AND WE ADVOCATE OUR ATHLETES. AND I'M COMMITTED TO THAT EVERY DAY. ...

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Michael C. Burgess, R-TX Michael C. Burgess, R-TX

SO JUST TO POINT OUT THE OBVIOUS HERE, YOU HAD AN UNLICENSED PHYSICIAN TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PARENTS OF THESE CHILDREN WERE APPRISED OF THE FACT, HERE'S A PHYSICIAN WHO'S NOT LICENSED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHO'S GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THE TRAINING PROGRAM. IT'S WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW WE SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT. I GUESS I JUST HAVE TO ASK, WHO PAID FOR THIS DOCTOR? WAS IT SOMETHING THE PARENTS HAD TO PAY FOR, DID THE RANCH PAY FOR IT? WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THIS? ...

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Michael C. Burgess, R-TX Michael C. Burgess, R-TX

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, HE'S -- HE WAS A VOLUNTEER, BUT HE WAS PAID EXPENSES. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY KNOWS HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF MICHIGAN STATE, BUT HE WAS A VOLUNTEER FOR USA GYMNASTICS. ...

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01:45:28
Michael C. Burgess, R-TX Michael C. Burgess, R-TX

OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS AND I WILL SUBMIT THEM FOR THE RECORD. MR. DAVIS, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. IT UNDERSCORES THE POINT OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS WE GET THIS RIGHT. WE CAN THINK WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT, AND THEN IT TURNS OUT WE DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT. AND THEN YEARS LATER YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS FROM NOT GETTING IT RIGHT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE BE RIGHT ON THIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL YIELD BACK. ...

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01:45:53

THANK YOU. THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE WOMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MISS SCHAKOWSKY FOR FIVE MINUTES.

01:46:01
Jan Schakowsky, D-IL Jan Schakowsky, D-IL

THANK YOU. I WANT TO BEGIN WITH A STATEMENT ABOUT YOUR TESTIMONY, MR. DAVIS. I'M FROM THE CHICAGO AREA. AND I THINK IT'S JUST SHOCKING THAT RICK BUTLER, AFTER BEING BANNED FOR ABUSING UNDERAGE GIRLS, APPEALED THAT LIFETIME BAN AND WAS REINSTATED. IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE IN THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL JANUARY OF 2018, THIS YEAR, THAT THERE IS A LIFETIME BAN. THIS REALLY UNDERSCORES THE PROBLEM THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER SO MANY YEARS. ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, I THINK, CERTAINLY THE WOMEN KNOW, IF SOMEONE HAS ABUSED UNDERAGE GIRLS, REINSTATING HIM IS UNACCEPTABLE. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL. IN TODAY'S WORLD, HE WOULD HAVE. I HOPE HE WOULD HAVE. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ARLENE LIAMAS IN THE AUDIENCE. IF YOU WOULD STAND, ARLENE -- IS SHE STILL HERE? THAT IS AN OLYMPIC ATHLETE AND TAE KWAN DO COACH. SHE SHARED WITH ME CHILLING STORIES ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE AT TRAINING CAMPS AND COMPETITIONS. MR. McNALLY, LAST YEAR, THREE OF YOUR ATHLETES WERE AWARDED $60 MILLION IN DAMAGES, A TOTAL OF, AFTER A JUDGE FOUND THAT A COACH SEXUALLY ABUSED THEM. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, CORRECT? COULD YOU SAY INTO THE MIKE? ...

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YES, I AM.

01:47:32
Jan Schakowsky, D-IL Jan Schakowsky, D-IL

THANK YOU. TAE KWAN DO ALSO ALLEGED PERMITTED AN ATHLETE AND A COACH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 2016 OLYMPICS EVEN THOUGH THEY -- THERE WERE UNRESOLVED SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THEM. SAFE SPORT FINALLY RECOMMENDED AN INTERIM BAN AGAINST THOSE INDIVIDUALS JUST THIS YEAR. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS MATTER AS WELL? ...

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01:47:54

YES, I AM.

01:47:56
Jan Schakowsky, D-IL Jan Schakowsky, D-IL

IN THE CASE OF JOHN LOPEZ, YOU MENTIONED MULTIPLE INVESTIGATIONS AND ATTEMPTS TO BAN MR. LOPEZ IN 2013 AND 2015, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE EFFORTS WERE UNRELATED TO SEXUAL ABUSE. IS THAT TRUE? ...

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01:48:14

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

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Jan Schakowsky, D-IL Jan Schakowsky, D-IL

AND THE TOPIC OF THIS HEARING, BY THE WAY, IS ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE. AND IT WASN'T -- ISN'T IT ALSO TRUE THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL 2018 THAT MR. LOPEZ WAS SANCTIONED FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT? ...

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01:48:34

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

01:48:38

I THINK THAT IDENTIFIES A PROBLEM HERE. YOUR MARCH 21st, 2018, LETTER TO THIS COMMITTEE, INDICATED THAT THERE ARE ROUGHLY TWO DOZEN INDIVIDUALS FACING SUSPENSIONS OR LIFETIME BANS FROM YOUR SPORT. WERE ANY OF THOSE REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT? ...

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I BELIEVE, YES. SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY CAME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT THROUGH CASES WHERE THEY WERE CHARGED. AS SOON AS THEY WERE CHARGED, THEY WERE SUSPENDED. SOME WENT TO PRISON AND WERE ADDED THROUGH THERE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERY CASE HISTORICALLY, BUT SINCE I TOOK OVER, AND EVEN EARLIER THAN THAT, SINCE THE CORPORATION OF THE SAFE SPORT CENTER, EVERY CASE WITH A CRIMINAL ELEMENT HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. ...

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I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THE ROUGHLY TWO DOZEN HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

01:49:32

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL --

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YOU'LL GET THAT TO ME?

01:49:36

YES, I WILL.

01:49:38

HOW IS IT THAT USA TAE KWAN DO ADDRESSING -- HOW IS TAE KWAN DO ADDRESSING THE ASSISTANT COACHES AND TEAM MANAGERS THAT MAY HAVE HAD A ROLE IN COVERING UP SEXUAL ABUSE IN YOUR SPORT? ...

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01:49:54

EVERY REPORT THAT WE GET, EVERY REPORT THAT'S SUBMITTED TO US IS IMMEDIATELY SUBMITTED TO THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT.

01:50:01

I'M ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION. IF THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE SPORT THAT ARE SILENT, THAT ARE COVERING UP, THAT DON'T TELL YOU. BECAUSE I THINK PROBABLY FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE, SOMEONE KNEW ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS THERE? ...

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SO WE ARE LOOKING TO, AS MR. HINCHY SAID, TO EMPOWER THE ATHLETES. WE'RE LAUNCHING A NOT IN MY SPORT CAMPAIGN TO ENCOURAGE ATHLETES TO COME FORWARD. WE ARE MUCH MORE OPEN. I BELIEVE I'VE REGAINED THE TRUST OF THE ATHLETE COMMUNITY. THEY KNOW I WILL DEAL WITH THIS IF IT COMES TO ME. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WITH ONE OF THOSE STORIES, WHO HAS BEEN SILENT UP UNTIL NOW -- ...

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01:50:42

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COACHING COMMUNITY NOW, THERE'S ASSISTANT COACHES, ALL KIND OF STAFF.

01:50:47

ANYBODY WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING, HOWEVER SMALL, HOWEVER SERIOUS, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING --

01:50:53

I'M STILL ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION. WHAT IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SILENT THAT KNEW OF THESE ABUSES, IS THERE ANY SANCTION AT ALL? ...

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01:51:03

WE DEAL WITH EVERY REPORT THAT COMES TOWARDS US. THAT'S WHY IN 2015, USA TAE KWAN DO PRECEDED THE INDEPENDENT BODY OF THE SAFE SPORT CENTER BY APPOINTING...

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01:51:14
Jan Schakowsky, D-IL Jan Schakowsky, D-IL

I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION MORE PRECISELY IN WRITING, BECAUSE MY TIME IS UP. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, WHETHER IT'S REPORTED OR NOT, THAT YOU OUGHT TO DO INQUIRIES TO FIND OUT WHO HAS STOOD BY AND WATCHED SEXUAL ABUSE OCCUR. AND I HAVE TO YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. ...

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01:51:32

THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE WOMAN FROM INDIANA, MISS BROOKS, WHO IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE ETHICS COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE. MISS BROOKS?

01:51:41
Susan W. Brooks, R-IN Susan W. Brooks, R-IN

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MISS PFOHL, I'D ASKED YOU TO TURN TO TAB 9, IT TALKS ABOUT THE CENTER RECEIVING 488 WRITTEN AND ORAL REPORTS, COMPLAINTS AND ALLEGATIONS REGARDING SEXUAL ABUSE SINCE THE CENTER LAUNCHED, UNTIL APRIL 13th, 2018.THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CASES. I'M ALSO A FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, FEDERAL PROSECUTOR INVOLVED IN CHILD EXPLOITATION CASES AND SO FORTH. GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CASES THAT YOUR CENTER HAS RECEIVED, HOW IS THE CENTER PRIORITIZING CASES IN ANY WAY, IF YOU ARE? AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND SO IF WE COULD BE BRIEF AND WE MAY ASK FOR MORE ANSWERS IN WRITTEN FORM. ...

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01:52:27
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

WHERETHANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN. WE TRIAGE THE CASES AS THEY COME IN. IF THEY NEED TO GO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT HAPPENS. WE'RE INPUTTING INTERIM MEASURES. IF INDIVIDUALS ARE ACT I'VEIVE, IF IT INVOLVES A MINOR, THOSE ARE PRIORITIZED. ...

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Susan W. Brooks, R-IN Susan W. Brooks, R-IN

AND CAN YOU SHARE WITH US IN TAB 9, THAT AS WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, THE ALLEGATIONS COME FROM 35 OF THE 48 NGBs. AND HOW ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE NGBs TO MAKE SURE, AND ATHLETES, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PRIORITY IN ATHLETES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR THAT SAFE SPORT -- THAT THIS CENTER EXISTS AND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES? I KNOW THE NGBs DO. BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT ATHLETES KNOW YOU EXIST? ...

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01:53:13

GREAT QUESTION. WE'RE UP TO 38 OF THE SPORTS NOW, THE NGB SPORTS. SO HOW WE DO THAT --

01:53:20

38 OF THE 48 HAVE ALLEGATIONS.

01:53:21
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

CORRECT. HAVE AT LEAST ONE REPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. AT LEAST ONE REPORT. AGAIN, WE WORK WITH THE NGBs. WE HAVE NOW A FULL-TIME NGB RESOURCES MANAGER. AND HER JOB EVERY DAY ALL DAY IS TO COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE NGBs, TO GIVE THEM CONSISTENT INFORMATION, TO LISTEN TO THEM ALSO, FOR THEM TO TELL US WHAT THEY NEED. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HEARD THEY NEEDED PARENT TOOL KITS. WE HAVE A PARENT TOOL KIT NOW ON OUR WEBSITE THAT ANYONE CAN ACCESS. ...

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01:53:54

ARE ANY OF THE NGBs NOT COOPERATING WITH YOU?

01:53:57

NO, MA'AM.

01:53:57

AND I UNDERSTAND NGBs ARE VARIOUS SIZES AND HAVE VARIOUS --

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RESOURCES.

01:54:05

AND VARIOUS RESOURCES, BUT IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT ALL NGBs TODAY ARE COOPERATING WITH YOU?

01:54:11

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, EVERY NGB IS COOPERATING.

01:54:15

CONGRESS ESTABLISHED A GRANT PROGRAM TO HELP KEEP OUR YOUNG ATHLETES SAFE. HAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, SET UP THE GRANT PROGRAM YET AND ESTABLISHED THE TIMING AND CONTENT OF THE APPLICATION OF THAT GRANT? ...

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01:54:29

MA'AM, WE'VE NOT SEEN THE RFP COME OUT, THE GUIDANCE COME OUT REGARDING THAT GRANT PRAMOGRAM, BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

01:54:37

IT WAS A $2.5 MILLION GRANT PROGRAM IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

01:54:41

YES, MA'AM.

01:54:41
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

AND HOW WOULD -- IF THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT WERE TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT AND WE WILL BE MAKING INQUIRIES AS TO WHAT IS TAKING TIME TO ESTABLISH THIS GRANT PROGRAM, AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS AND PASSED IN THE OMNIBUS, HOW WOULD THOSE GRANT FUNDS BE USED IF CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT WERE TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS? ...

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01:55:04
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

TO EXPAND OUR RESPONSE, MEANING OUR RESPONSE OF RESOLUTION, TO BE ABLE TO ADD MORE INVESTIGATORS. ALSO REMEMBER THE BILL DID CALL FOR US TO DO REGULAR AND RANDOM AUDITS OF THE NGBs, AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER WORK AND GET THE WORD OUT THROUGH THEM, TO THE ATHLETES, DIRECTLY TO ATHLETES -- ...

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01:55:22

HAVE THE AUDITS BEGUN YET?

01:55:23

NO.

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AND WHY IS THAT?

01:55:25

WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THE AUDITS.

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AND HAVE YOU MADE ANY REQUESTS YET OF THE USOC, OR OF THE NGBs FOR MORE RESOURCES?

01:55:37
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

NOT -- NO, MA'AM. NOT SINCE THE DOUBLING OF THE SUPPORT FROM THE USOC. WE ARE, OF COURSE, NOW LOOKING TO 2019 AND LOOKING AT THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ALL OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING EVERY PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION ON ATHLETE SAFETY. AND AS AN ORGANIZATION, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I DID IN DECEMBER WAS TO LOOK AT THE MISSION STATEMENT OF USA GYMNASTICS AND CHANGE THAT MISSION STATEMENT AND THE MISSION STATEMENT NOW FOCUSES ON EMPOWERING OUR ATHLETES AND FOCUSING ON ATHLETE SAFETY AND MAKING SURE WE EDUCATE OUR MEMBERS TO THAT EXTENT. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY I THINK ABOUT. AND SO WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO AS AN ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PREVENT -- AS YOU ALL MENTIONED, ONE CASE OF SEXUAL ABUSE IS ONE TOO MANY. ...

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Tim Walberg, R-MI Tim Walberg, R-MI

I APPRECIATE THAT. THEN LET'S CONTINUE TO LOOK BACK A BIT. PUBLIC REPORTS INDICATE THAT ASAG OFFICIALS KNEW ABOUT NASSAR IN THE SUMMER OF 2015 AND OFFICIALS NOTIFIED USOC OFFICIALS SHORTLY THEREAFTER IN JULY 2015. IN ADDITION TO NOTIFYING THE FBI, DID USAG IMPLEMENT ANY FORMAL AND PUBLIC INTERIM MEASURES ON DR. NASSAR WHILE THE FBI CONDUCTED THE INVESTIGATION TO ENSURE THAT ATHLETES DID NOT CONTINUE TO BE AT RISK WHILE THE INVESTIGATION WAS UNDERWAY? ...

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02:06:52
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- I DON'T HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. NASSAR WAS ASKED TO STEP AWAY, THERE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT INVESTIGATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW AS YOU MENTIONED, THE ROPES AND GRAY -- WHICH IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US SO WE CAN SHED LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENED. ...

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02:07:14

DID HE STEP AWAY?

02:07:15

I WOULD -- DID HE STEP AWAY AT THAT POINT?

02:07:18

AT THAT POINT.

02:07:18

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE DID. BUT I WOULD NEED TO SEE ALL OF THE FACTS AROUND THAT.

02:07:25
Tim Walberg, R-MI Tim Walberg, R-MI

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK THOSE FACTS OUT. BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT THERE WERE STILL INVOLVEMENT THAT WENT ON AND AT THE VERY -- THE VERY LEAST THERE WAS A COVER-UP. THINGS WEREN'T TRANSPARENT OR CLEAR AND I THINK THAT ADDED TO THE FRUSTRATION OF ATHLETES, PARENTS, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE LOOKING FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. ...

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02:07:57

I UNDERSTAND.

02:07:57

AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

02:07:59

I UNDERSTAND AND I'LL BE RELENTLESS IN MY EFFORTS EVERY DAY AND I BELIEVE THE ROPES AND GRAY INVESTIGATION WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT I THINK I AND MANY OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. ...

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02:08:10

THANKS, AND I WISH YOU WELL. I YIELD BACK.

02:08:13

GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE WOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. WALTERS, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

02:08:20

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST OF ALL.

02:08:23
Mimi Walters, R-CA Mimi Walters, R-CA

WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT AS A MOTHER OF FOUR WHOSE KIDS PLAYED LOCAL ORGANIZED SPORTS GROWING UP, THIS IS A DIFFICULT HEARING TOPIC. IT IS REALLY UPSETTING TO THINK THAT MY KIDS AND THEIR TEAMMATES COULD HAVE BEEN COACHED BY SOMEONE WHO HAD A HISTORY OF MISCONDUCT AND EVEN MORE DISTURBING TO THINK THAT I AND THE REST OF THE PARENTS WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN IF THAT IS THE CASE BECAUSE AS WE'VE RECENTLY LEARNED, IN MOST CASES LISTS CONTAINING THE NAMES OF BANNED OR SUSPENDED COACHES ISN'T PUBLIC INFORMATION. NGB HAVE DIFFERENT POLICIES REGARDING WHETHER THEY MAINTAIN LIST OF BANNED COACHES AND WHETHER THEY PUBLICIZE THE LIST. COMMITTEE ASKED ALL 48 NGB AND THE USOC WHETHER OR NOT THEY MAINTAINED A LIST OF INDIVIDUALS BANNED OR SUSPEND FROM PARTICIPATION WITH NGB AND WHETHER THE LIST WAS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. ONLY 18 HAVE A LIST AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. OTHER NGB'S REPORTED TO THE COMMITTEE THEY SHARED A BANNED LIST WITH THE MEMBERS BUT DO NOT PUBLICLY POST THE LIST. HAVE BANNED LISTS ONLY SHARED WITH OFFICIALS MAINTAIN THE MEMBERS IN GOOD STANDING OR HAVE NOT SUSPEND ANY INDIVIDUALS BUT MAKE A LIST PUBLIC IF THEY WERE TO DO SO. AS YOU COULD SEE, THERE IS A WIDE VARIATION IN WHETHER AND HOW THE NGB AND USOC MAKE THE LIST AVAILABLE. THERE ARE CLEAR BENEFITS TO HAVING A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE LIST. WHY HASN'T THE USOC MANDATED THAT THEY MAKE THE LIST PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. ...

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Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR NGB PARTNERS AND PROBABLY ALL BE IN AGREEMENT WE NEED TO FIND A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS SO THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND TRANSPARENT AND ALL IN ONE CENTRALIZED PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN FIND IT. IT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY BUT WE'LL MAKE THAT A PRIORITY FOR US ALL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ...

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02:10:29

SO YOU'LL CONSIDER MANDATING THAT ALL NGB PUBLISH A PUBLIC LIST OF ALL BANNED OR SUSPENDED INDIVIDUALS.

02:10:35

YES, I THINK THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WILL END UP GETTING ON THE NEW COMPLIANCE LIST NOT THERE BEFORE AS WE EXERCISE MORE AUTHORITY IN THIS...

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02:10:42

OKAY. AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU ALSO, IF AN NGB PUTS AN INDIVIDUAL ON A BANNED OR SUSPENDED LIST, WOULD THE USOC GRANT THAT PERSON ACCESS TO AN OLYMPIC CENTER OR EVENT. ...

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02:10:56
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

THAT SHOULD NOT OCCUR. THAT IS INFORMATION -- IT IS VISIBLE TO US. THEN WE HAVE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES TO ENSURE A PERSON COULD NOT GET ON TO AN OLYMPIC TRAINING SITE OR CENTER WHERE WE ARE SUPERVISING SO THE AVAILABILITY OF THAT INFORMATION IS CRITICAL AND I THINK THE RIGHT PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE TO KEEP THEM FROM ENTERING A LOCATION BUT YOU HAVE KNOW THEY ARE BANNED. ...

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02:11:21
Mimi Walters, R-CA Mimi Walters, R-CA

THE PRODUCTION THAT THE USOC MADE TO THE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK INCLUDING AN E-MAIL FROM 2016 REGARDING SMUP REGARDING -- SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN SUSPEND BY KAI KWON DUE FOR FIVE YEARS DUE TO SERIOUS SAFE SPORT VIOLATIONS. ACCORDING TO THE E-MAIL, NOTWITHSTANDING THE SUSPENSION, THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS ISSUED A DAY PASS FOR THE HIGH PERFORMANCE CENTER IN RIO BY THE USOC, IT STATES AND I QUOTE, THIS PASS WAS NOT OFFICIALLY KWD BY USOC TAE KWON DO AND NOT SOMEONE WE COULD GRANT ACCESS TO AND ONE OF OUR COACHES WENT DIRECTLY TO USOC STAFF WITH THE REQUEST WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL AND SOMEHOW OBTAINED THE PASS DIRECT LIVE.-- DIRECTLY. AND ANOTHER PERSON COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS PERSON BEING AROUND FEMALE ATHLETES. THE BANNED OR SUSPECTED LIST IS PUBLIC AND USA TAE KWON DO BANNED THEM FOR FIVE YEARS AND GRANTED THEM ACCESS TO AN OFFICIAL CENTER AT THE RIO OLYMPICS. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS. ...

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02:12:26

IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AND DOES POINT TO ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AN ATHLETE SAFETY COMMISSION TO LOOK AT WHERE THE GAPS IN THE SYSTEM ARE. IT SHOULDN'T OCCUR AND THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE IN THOSE VENUES WOULD KNOW TO CHECK THAT LIST AND IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN ANY CASE. IT DID NOT. ...

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Mimi Walters, R-CA Mimi Walters, R-CA

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE E-MAIL SAID BECAUSE IT WENT -- IT WENT ON TO SAY PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED AS THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED CONSISTENTLY IN THE PAST SO THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. NEITHER IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST IGNORE GIVEN THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ADJUDICATED COMPLAINTS. SO MY POINT IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONSISTENTLY HAPPENED AND HOW DID THAT POSSIBLY CONSISTENTLY HAPPEN. ...

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02:13:05

IT WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE POLICY OR CHECK IN PLACE, AND THERE WAS A POLICY TO ENSURE IT WAS BEING FOLLOWED SO WE HAVE TO DO BETTER AND WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHY WHY THAT HAPPENED AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. ...

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02:13:18

I'M OUT OF TIME. I YIELD BACK.

02:13:20

NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA FOR FIVE MINUTES. MR. CARTER.

02:13:25

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. MISS PERRY, I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OF GEORGIA. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF IT. ...

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02:13:37

YES.

02:13:38

RANKIN GEORGIA, EFFINGHAM GEORGIA.

02:13:44

YES.

02:13:44

I'M SURE YOU HAVE. YOU ARE AWARE OF A LAWSUIT, JANE DOUGH VERSUS USA GYMNASTICS.

02:13:49

YES.

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AND THAT LAWSUIT WAS SETTLED LAST MONTH.

02:13:53

RECENT.

02:13:55
Buddy Carter, R-GA Buddy Carter, R-GA

THE BEGINNING OF APRIL. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN -- A JIM INDUSTRY WHO WAS -- WHO OPENED UP A GYM IN 2002 IN EFFINGHAM COUNTY AND HE OPENS UP A GYM AND IN A NEWSPAPER STORY IT STATED THAT McCABE -- HIS NAME WAS BILL McCABE.HE'S IN PRISON FOR 30 YEARS. RIGHT. ...

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02:14:18

YES.

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Buddy Carter, R-GA Buddy Carter, R-GA

BUT IN 2002 HE OPENED UP A GYM AND THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SAID McCABE AND A NEW PARTNER AND GIRLFRIEND OPENED SAVANNAH METRO GYMNASTICS IN RANKIN, GEORGIA AND BOTH ARE USA GYMNASTICS PROFESSIONAL MEMBERS AND USA GYMNASTICS SAFETY CERTIFIED AND ALSO A USA GYMNASTICS SKILLEE VALUTEATOR AND TEACHING SINCE 1991. WHAT HAPPENED IS THE MOTHER OF AN 8-YEAR-OLD ENROLLED HER DAUGHTER THERE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT FOR THREE YEARS UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF 2005, THAT DAUGHTER WAS IN CLASSES THERE WITH THIS SEXUAL PREDATOR, IS WHAT HE WAS. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED SHE WENT OUT TO HER CAR ONE DAY AND FOUND AN ENVELOPE ON HER CAR AND HAD ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT PREVIOUS PROBLEMS THAT BILL McCABE HAD HAD. SHE TOOK AND SHE CALLED USA GYMNASTICS AND THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID. I SPOKE TO A WOMAN THERE AND I TOLD HER THAT I HAD THIS COMPLAINT AGAINST BILL McCABE AND I ASKED WHETHER SHE HAD ANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM AND SHE SAID NO. SHE SAID NO. YET, IF YOU LOOK BACK ON HIS RECORD, YOU'LL FIND THAT IN OCTOBER OF 1996 HE WAS FIRED FROM GYMNASTICS WORLD IN FT. MYERS BECAUSE HE WAS BRAGGING ABOUT COERCING A 15-YEAR-OLD CHEERLEADER TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM AND THEN FIRED FROM FIRE STAR GYMNASTICS IN KENTUCKY FOLLOWING A INCIDENT A GYM GIST HE TOOK TO A CAMP IN PENNSYLVANIA AND COMPLAINED THAT HE EXPOSED HIS GENITALS TO SOME GYMNASTS. AND THEN IT GOES ON AND ON TO TELL ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS -- BEFORE 2002 THIS GENTLEMAN HAD DONE. HE HAD BEEN -- AND IN FACT, HE HAD BEEN FIRED ALSO FROM ANOTHER AREA AND THEY ACTUALLY SENT A PACKET TO USA GYMNASTICS DETAILING ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS THAT HE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN. AND YET NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER. DO YOU EVER DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ANY OF YOUR COACHES LIKE THIS? ...

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02:16:31

FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY --

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DO YOU HAVE DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ANY OF YOUR COACHES LIKE THIS?

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SO --

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IT IS A YES OR NO QUESTION.

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THERE ARE BACKGROUND CHECKS BEING DONE CURRENTLY.

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DID YOU DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON HIM. THIS SEXUAL PREDATOR WHO IS IN JAIL IN PRISON FOR 0 -- 30 YEARS.

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I WAS NOT THERE, I DON'T KNOW --

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AND FIND OUT AN ANSWER BECAUSE I NEED AN ANSWER.

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YES, SIR.

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Buddy Carter, R-GA Buddy Carter, R-GA

IT GETS BETTER IF THERE IS SUCH A THING. BECAUSE AFTER HE WAS SENTENCED TO JAIL, AFRICA WASTER HE WAS IN PRISON A CIVIL LAWSUIT WAS FILED AND FOR FIVE YEARS UNTIL RECENTLY SETTED OUT OF COURT LAST MONTH FOR FIVE YEARS YOU ARG -- ARGUED THAT YOU HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THESE CHILDREN TRAINING UNDER YOUR ORGANIZATION. ...

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02:17:24

DID NOT ARGUE THAT. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

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WHO ARGUED IT THEN.

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I STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2017. BUT LET ME SAY THIS --

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YOU KNOW -- LET ME SAY THIS -- THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

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I AGREE.

02:17:34
Buddy Carter, R-GA Buddy Carter, R-GA

AND HOW YOU CAN WORK FOR AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS, THAT LET THIS HAPPEN. I'VE SAT HERE THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE HEARING AND THERE IS ONE THING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANY OF YOU. FROM ANY OF YOU. AND THAT IS I'M SORRY. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANY ONE OF YOU SAY TO THE -- TO THE PARENTS OR CHILDREN OR GRAND PARENTS, I'M SORRY AND THAT IS DESPICABLE. ...

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02:18:00

LET ME ANSWER IF I CAN.

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ANSWER WHAT.

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I SAID I'M SORRY.

02:18:03
Buddy Carter, R-GA Buddy Carter, R-GA

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY YOUR SORRY I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU AND I'M RECLAIMING MY TIME AND THIS CAN'T BE TOLERATED, MISS LIONS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WROTE IN AN E-MAIL ABOUT A FORMER USA TAE KWON DO ATHLETE WHO SENT INFORMATION -- FILED AN ETHIC COMPLAINT, YOU WROTE AN E-MAIL THAT THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME OLD B.S. DID YOU WRITE THAT IN AN E-MAIL. ...

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02:18:31

I DID.

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AND ARE YOU CURRENTLY THE ACTING DIRECTOR AND CEO OF THE USOC.

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I AM.

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YOU SHOULD RESIGN YOUR POSITION NOW. THAT INCIDENT TELLS ME THAT YOU ARE NOT FIT TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION.

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OH, MY GOD.

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THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED.

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I NEED A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

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LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT DURING OPENING STATEMENTS THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND THE NGB REPRESENTATIVE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED RESPONSIBILITY FOR PREVIOUS ACTIONS. WITH THAT I RECOGNIZE MR. GET -- ...

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02:19:06
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

NOT ONLY THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THEY ALL APOLOGIZED TO THE VICTIMS AND TO THEIR PARENTS. AND FURTHERMORE, MS. PERRY WOULDS WHAT RELENTLESSLY BADGERED BY MR. CARTER WAS COME IN TO FIX IT. ...

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SHE WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

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SHE WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

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GENTLEMAN IS NO LONGER RECOGNIZED. AND WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH OUR QUESTIONING.

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MR. CHAIRMAN --

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SO AT THIS TIME --

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YES, I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO CLARIFY, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MISS PERRY WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, MR. CARTER. I HAVE MET WITH MISS PERRY AFTER SHE BEGAN -- OKAY. ...

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02:19:51

FOR THE RECORD -- MISS PERRY WAS NOT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

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LET'S STAY ON -- THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. LET'S STAY ON TRACK. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT HEARING AND THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE TRIEG TO DO AND WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON MESSAGE. THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE MR. COSTELLO FOR FIVE MINUTES. ...

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02:20:12

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD HAVE EVERYONE TURN TO TAB 20. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS LIONS AND THEN A QUESTION FOR MISS PERRY. THE MEMO REFERENCED -- IN 2012 MEMO IN TAB 20 DISCUSSES A REQUEST THAT NGB PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE USOC ON THE COMMUNITY REACTION SHOULD THE USOC INSIST ON CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, TEN NGB'S NEVER RESPONDED AND 35 OF THE 37 DID RESPOND BUT REQUIRED SOME -- THAT SOME FORM OF BACKGROUND CHECK AT THE TIME WAS REQUIRED. THE TWO MOST RECENTLY CITED OBSTACLES TO REQUIRING CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, ONE COST TO RESISTANCE FROM THE NGB CONSTITUENTS AND MISS LIONS HOW MUCH RESISTANCE DID YOU RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY ON REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS? ...

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02:21:02
Ryan Costello, R-PA Ryan Costello, R-PA

WELL, I WAS NOT PART OF THIS PROGRAM AND I DON'T KNOW PRECISELY. THERE WAS SOME RESISTANCE AND I THINK FOR THE REASONS PUT THERE. PEOPLE WERE NOT PERHAPS PUTTING THAT -- THE HIGHEST PART OF THEIR PRIORITY LIST AND THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK. ...

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02:21:19

AND SO THE TKT -- THE FACT THAT THE USOC DID NOT REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS UNTIL 2014, TWO YEARS AFTER THIS MEMO, WHY WAS THERE A DELAY, WOULD YOUR ANSWER BE THEY DIDN'T PLACE A PRIORITY ON IT. ...

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02:21:30

I THINK THE REALITY IS PUTTING IN THE ACTUAL PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF DOING THE BACKGROUND CHECKS DID TAKE SOME TIME.

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ANY OTHER REASONS WHY IT TOOK TWO YEARS?

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IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET 49 ORGANIZATIONS TO ALL CONSISTENTLY ADHERE TO A NEW CHANGE.

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Ryan Costello, R-PA Ryan Costello, R-PA

MISS PERRY, USA JOIX PRACTICE IN 2005 WAS TO SELF CERTIFY AND WHEN DID THEY REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK INSTEAD OF THE SELF CERTIFICATION.

02:22:06
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT DATE BUT I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, USA GYMNASTICS HAS REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR HIRING OF PROFESSIONALS AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, HAS OTHER KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS AS CLUB OWNERS AND OTHERS ARE LOOKING TO HIRE INDIVIDUALS AND ONE OF THOSE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONSULT WITH OUR PUBLIC FACING INELIGIBLE LIST AND OUR SUSPENDED LIST ONLINE. ...

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02:22:33

WOULD YOU PROVIDE AN ANSWER IN WRITING AS TO WHEN THIS DID TAKE PLACE. TO ALL NGB'S WHAT RESULTS WOULD TURN OUT ON A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT WOULD TERMINATE MEMBERSHIP. TRY TO BE BRIEF BECAUSE I HAVE A FOLLOW UP. ...

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02:22:47

ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR CHARGES.

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ANY?

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SHOPLIFTING?

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ANYTHING.

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Ryan Costello, R-PA Ryan Costello, R-PA

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. IF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ALREADY A MEMBER FAILS A ROUTINE FOLLOW-UP BACKGROUND CHECK, WHAT ACTION WOULD YOUR NGB TAKE?

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SO ANYBODY WITH A FELONY OR PENDING FELONY CHARGE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING IN FRONT OF OUR ETHICS COMMITTEE....

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02:23:18

HOW ABOUT A MISDEMEANOR, WOULD THAT BE OVERLOOKED OR ALSO PROMPT THE SAME LEVEL OF SCRUTINY?

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A MISDEMEANOR IS NOT -- NOT AN AUTOMATIC REFERRAL, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SERIOUSNESS.

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THE NATURE OF THE MISDEMEANOR.

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YES, ANY ASSAULT OR OF ANYTHING OF A SEXUAL NATURE WOULD PROMPT IT.

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VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL OR OTHERWISE.

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Ryan Costello, R-PA Ryan Costello, R-PA

IF A FAILING BACKGROUND CHECK DOESN'T LEAD TO TERMINATING SOMEONE'S MEMBERSHIP, WHAT WOULD? I DON'T LIKE THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DO YOUR POLICIES REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ATHLETES AND IN ADDITION TO COACHES AND OTHERS. BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ATHLETES? ...

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USA TAE KWON DO DOESN'T REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ATHLETES, NO.

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USA SWIMMING, NO.

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AUS GYMNASTICS, NO.

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USA VOLLEYBALL, NO.

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OKAY. MR. McNALLY, AS OTHER NGB'S BEGAN IMPLEMENTING THESE BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENTS AND THE ISSUE OF SEXUAL ABUSE IN SPORTS ROSE IN PROMINENCE, ESPECIALLY AFTER USA SWIMMING REGULATIONS WHY DIDN'T THEY ACT FASTER IN IMPLEMENTING THIS REQUIREMENT. ...

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I'LL HAVE TO SUPPLY THAT AS AN ANSWER FOLLOWING THE HEARING BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE. I BELIEVE THEY WERE IMPLEMENTED IN LATE 2013.

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OKAY. AND FOR ALL NGB'S HOW FAR INTO THE PAST DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS GO?

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USA VOLLEYBALL STARTED IN 2004-2005 SEASON.

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I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE. I BELIEVE IT ISSAR FAR BACK AS THE RECORDS, IF THERE IS A FELONY FROM 2000 IT WOULD SHOW UP.

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THAT IS MY QUESTION, MR. DAVIS. HOW FAR -- THE BACKGROUND CHECK ON A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL GOES BACK TO WHEN? TO THE DAY THEY TURN 18.

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I'LL HAVE TO GET IN WRITING ON HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. BUT I BELIEVE IT GOES BACK TO AS FAR AS THEY TURN 18, YES.

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I WOULD KINDLY REQUEST ALL OF THE NGB'S TO PROVIDE THAT ANSWER IN WRITING. THANK YOU.

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YIELD BACK.

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THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. BILL RACKUS.

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Gus Bilirakis, R-FL Gus Bilirakis, R-FL

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SIT IN ON THE HEARING. THIS ISSUE CAME TO NATIONAL ATTENTION BECAUSE SURVIVORS WERE WILLING TO SPEAK UP ABOUT EXPERIENCES WITH ABUSE. IT WAS THEIR BRAVERY THAT SHINED A LIGHT ON THE MANY PROBLEMS WITHIN THE NATIONAL SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW THE SYSTEMS PREVIOUSLY IN PLACE HAD FAILED THEM. FOR THE PANEL AND WE'LL START WITH MISS LIONS, HOW ARE YOU INVOLVING SURVIVORS AND OTHER ATHLETES IN YOUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND POLICY CHANGES MOVING FORWARD. ...

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Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

WE THINK THAT THE VOICE OF THE ATHLETES IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND IN FORMING ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MAKE. I WISH THAT MANY OF THE SURVIVORS WOULD COME AND CONTACT US. WE ARE PREVENTED DUE TO THE LITIGATION FROM REACHING OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY. BUT WE WOULD WELCOME THEIR VOICEs.WE'RE SETTING UP AND JUST DONE A THOUSAND ATHLETE SURVEY AND RECEIVED A THOUSAND RESPONSES ON THE SURVEY TO GET OUR BROADER ATHLETE POPULATION HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE ABOUT SAFE SPORTS AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH OUR ATHLETE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THEY'LL BE -- AND OTHER ATHLETES WILL BE PART OF OUR ATHLETE SAFETY PANEL THAT IS GOING TO GO FORWARD AND HELP US MAKE POLICY CHANGES GOING FORWARD. ...

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02:26:51

MISS PERRY.

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Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

THANK YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ABOUT EVERY DAY. AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I DID WHEN I BECAME PRESIDENT AND CEO WAS I STARTED FLYING EVERYWHERE. AND TALKING TO ATHLETES AND SOME OF THOSE ARE SURVIVORS AND THEIR VOICE IS IMPORTANT TO ME. AND WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT THERE IS JUST SO MUCH LOVE OF THIS SPORT, BUT THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ORGANIZATION AND IN ITS STRATEGIC DIRECTION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CREATED WAS AN ATHLETE TASK FORCE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. I THINK IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT FIRST STEP. MISS LIONS TALKED ABOUT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT FOR ME, IT IS REALLY ABOUT GETTING IN FRONT OF AS MANY ATHLETES AS I CAN AND MAKING SURE THEIR VOICE IS HEARD AND THEY FEEL EMPOWERED AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT IS SOMETHING I FOCUS ON EVERY DAY. ...

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OKAY, PLEASE, CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

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Tim Hinchey Tim Hinchey

CONGRESSMAN, WE SENT OUT AN -- A LETTER TO OUR MEMBERSHIP ENCOURAGING AND INVITING ANY SURVIVORS TO CONTACT US FOR A CHANCE TO MEET AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM PERSONALLY. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ONE VICTIM -- SURVIVOR THIS FAR AND I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH TWO OTHERS AND PLAN TO HAVE TWO OTHER MEETINGS, ASIDE FROM THAT, WE NEED TO ENGAGE AND EMPOWER ORE ATHLETE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION GOING FORWARD AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. ...

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Tim Hinchey Tim Hinchey

SO USA TAE KWON DO IS ONE OF THREE NGB'S PARTICIPATING IN THE ATHLETE CLIMATE SURVEY WHICH WILL REACH OUT TO A NUMBER OF SELECT NUMBER OF ATHLETES AND GET THEM INVOLVED. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH FIGHTING SPIRIT, WHICH IS A GROUP THAT EDUCATED ON SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND BULLYING TO MAKE SURE THOSE ATHLETES LEARN ABOUT THIS BEFORE THEY BECOME VICTIMS. ...

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02:28:45

MR. DAVIS?

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WE ALSO ENGAGE OUR ATHLETE AND HAVE AN ATHLETE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE ENGAGING WITH TO TALK ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS MADE TRANSPARENT TO US IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH PAST VICTIMS, WHICH ARE PART OF THE REASON OF HOW WE WERE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GO AND CONTINUE WITH THE -- MR. BUTTER CASE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO. ...

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02:29:09
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

WE HAVE TWO ATHLETES ON OUR GOVERNING BOARD AND WE'RE ESTABLISHING A SAFE SPORT CHAMPIONS PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD CUT ACROSS ALL OF THE SPORTS TO ENGAGE SURVIVORS AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT PREVENTING BULLYING, HARASSMENT, HAZING AND ALL FORMS OF PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL AND SEXUAL ABUSE. ...

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02:29:27
Gus Bilirakis, R-FL Gus Bilirakis, R-FL

THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION. THESE HORRIFIC EVENTS KURD FOR-- OCCURRED FOR YEARS WITHOUT -- UNACCEPTABLE. GIVEN THE SAD REALITY, WHAT CHANGES HAS YOUR ORGANIZATION MADE TO ENCOURAGE ATHLETES TO COME FORWARD WITH ANY COMPLAINTS OF ABUSE THEY HAVE MADE OR THEY MAY HAVE SOME COMPLAINTS. WHAT HAS -- WHAT CHANGES HAVE YOU MADE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME FORWARD? LET'S START FROM HERE. MISS LIONS. ...

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02:30:00
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY CAN COME FORWARD IS MADE BETTER AVAILABLE SO WE'VE MADE WEBSITE AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS CHANGES SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE CENTER AND THE ITS ROLE AND IT IS A CLEAR PATH TO SAFE REPORTING. THAT IS ITEM ONE. WE ALSO NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE ATHLETES CAN REACH OUT TO ANYONE THAT THEY FEEL SAFE TO DISCUSS AND ALL OF US NEED TO MAKE OURSELVES MORE VISIBLY A AVAILABLE TO THEM AND THINK THAT EVERYONE ON THIS PANEL BELIEVES THAT THOSE VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD AND IS TRYING TO BUILD THE MECHANISM IN PLACE THROUGH EITHER COUNCIL WORKING GROUPS AND SURVEYS OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THOSE VOICES BETTER HEARD. ...

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HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THERE ARE ACTIONS -- AGAIN THE ALLEGATIONS, THE VICTIMS' ALLEGATIONS ARE ACTED ON QUICKLY. QUICKLY, IF COULD YOU RESPOND. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. ...

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02:30:54
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY -- IT IS A CULTURAL CHANGE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE EMBARKED ON FROM DAY ONE. AND THE CULTURE HAS TO BE ONE WHERE ATHLETES FEEL THEY CAN SPEAK UP. AND YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT I WAS. THROUGH YOUR STRUCTURE, THROUGH YOUR POLICIES, THROUGH YOUR PERSONNEL, AND NOTHING REPLACES BEING THERE AND IN FRONT OF THE ATHLETE. NOTHING REPLACES BEING THEIR ADVOCATE. AND AS AN ORGANIZATION, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME AND QUITE FRANKLY THE REASON I TOOK THIS JOB. SO THEY WOULD KNOW THEIR VOICE MATTERS BUT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR ORGANIZATION GOING FORWARD. A VERY IMPACTFUL DIFFERENCE. ...

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Gus Bilirakis, R-FL Gus Bilirakis, R-FL

OKAY. AND IT IS IMPORTANT AGAIN -- I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, THAT THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE ACTED ON QUICKLY. SO THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO COME FORWARD. SO UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME SO I HAVE TO YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. ...

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02:31:57

GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK, THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE WOMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MISS DINGLE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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Debbie Dingell, D-MI Debbie Dingell, D-MI

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN HARPER AND RANKING MEMBER DUQUETTE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. AND LIKE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, THE OLYMPIANS REPRESENT COURAGE, DEDICATION AND HARD WORK AND PATRIOTISM OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT GETTING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY. AND TO GIVE US REASON TO CELEBRATE AND TO SUPPORT. BUT TEAM USA IS MORE THAN A COMPETITIVE TEAM. IT IS 13 MILLION YOUNG ATHLETES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, MR. WAHLBERG FROM MICHIGAN, I'VE STOOD WITNESS TO THE IRRESPONSIBLE, DESPICABLE UNEXCUSABLE ABUSE OF BEHAVIOR THAT HAVE CAUSED CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN. I'VE MET THEM. THESE YOUNG GIRLS -- I'M SORRY. I STILL GET UP SET. I'M SADDENED AND DISGUSTED AND I THINK ALL OF US HERE IN A VERY BIPARTISAN WAY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS -- DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. BUT WHAT IS BOTHERING ME TODAY ABOUT THIS HEARING AND WHAT IS BOTHERED ME ABOUT ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT WE DONE TO DATE IS THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THE SYSTEM'S DESIGNED TO PROTECT ATHLETES FROM THE ABUSERS FAILED AND BY THE WAY, MY COLLEAGUE MR. WAHLBERG WAS CORRECT THAT THE DOCTOR WAS ASKED TO STEP AWAY AND HE WAS VERY QUICKLY BACK IN THE ROOM AND HE WAS TOLD THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE IN THE ROOM CHAPERONING AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND THAT IS WHAT IS JUST SO UNFORGIVABLE. OR THAT THERE WERE NO SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO BEGIN WITH. THERE HAVE BEEN FAR TO MANY INCIDENTS AND ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT INCLUDING ALLEGATIONS INVOLVING INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODIES BEFORE US TODAY AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT REASSURINGED BY YOUR TESTIMONY BECAUSE I DON'T HEAR A SENSE OF URGENCY. WE'LL DO IT AND GET TO THIS AND DO IT. WHAT IS OUT THERE, WELL WHO ARE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP THAT AREN'T GETTING THERE? WE'VE -- SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS HERE. WE'VE HEARD TODAY THAT THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORTS PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN PROTECTING THE ATH-LEISURES FROM ATH-LEISURE -- THE ATH-LEISURES FROM ABUSE AND I FIND IT -- CONCERNING THAT IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS TO GET SAFE SPORTS OFF THE GROUND. IN FACT, AS EARLY AS 2010, USA OLYMPIC COMMITTEE WORKING GROUP FOR SAFE TRAINING AND ENVIRONMENTS FOUND THAT THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE MUST DO MORE TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN PROTECTING THE ATHLETES FROM ABUSE. BY THE WAY, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ALL SAYING TODAY BUT YOU ARE ALL WORKING ON IT. AND I HOPE THAT -- AS YOU ARE WORKING ON IT YOU WILL BE TRANSPARENT TOO. MISS PERRY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TODAY BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO HEAR FROM YOU SINCE YOU TOOK THE JOB. YOU HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYBODY. BUT JUST IN 2013 THE WORKING GROUP HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS SAFE SPORT CASES SHOULD BE CENTRALIZED WITH THE NEW INDEPENDENT ENTITY REFERRING TO THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT AND IT WAS CREATED AND STILL A FUNCTIONAL PART OF THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE. DOCUMENTS FROM THAT YEAR INDICATE THAT THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE BOARD AND IS PATED LAUNCHING SAFE SPORT IN 2015. IN 2015, SAFE SPORT STILL WAS NOT FUNCTIONING AS IT WAS INTENDED. IN FACT, IT WAS NOT FULLY OPERATIONAL IN 2017. MISS LIONS, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS TIME LINE? ...

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02:35:38

YES, MA'AM, I AM.

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Debbie Dingell, D-MI Debbie Dingell, D-MI

DOCUMENTS PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY SUGGEST THAT A LACK OF FUNDING WAS A MAJOR REASON FOR THE DELAY IN OPENING SAFE SPORTS. A SEPTEMBER 2015 PRESENTATION TO THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE BOARD OF DIRECTORS STATED THAT THE LAUNCH OF THE U.S. CENTER FOR SAFE SPORTS IS CONTINGENT ON RAISING FIVE YEARS WORTH OF FUNDING. MISS LIONS, IS IT ACCURATE THAT FUNDING PREVENTED THE USOC FROM LAUNCHING SAFE SPORTS SOONER? ...

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02:36:09
Susanne Lyons Susanne Lyons

I THINK THE ANSWER IS IT WAS A DELAY AND AS WE LOOK BACK, THAT WAS A MISTAKE. WE DID HOPE FOR THE CERTAIN IN ORDER TO BE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, WE HOPED THAT OTHER SPORTS ORGSZ OUTSIDE OF THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT WOULD PARTICIPATE. WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND IT DID NOT AND IN RETO SPECT WE SHOULD HAVE FUNDED IT SOONER AND GET IT GOING -- ...

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Debbie Dingell, D-MI Debbie Dingell, D-MI

AND WHY SHOULD I TAKE CONFIDENCE TWH FR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR TIME LINE -- AND I DO WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, THERE ARE ONLY 14 PEOPLE WORKING THERE NOW AND SOME CONSULTANTS AND THE VOLUME OF WORK HAS ME WORRIED BUT YOU KEEP TELLING ME WE'RE -- WORKING ON IT, IS IT GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PROTECT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. ...

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I APPRECIATE YOUR ANGER AND CONCERN AND I SHARE IT AND I UNDERSTAND HOW FRUSTRATING IT MUST SEEM AND HOW INCOMPETENT IT MUST SEEM SH--

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YES.

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OF 27 OUT OF THE LAST 49 BOARD MEETINGS THERE WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AND STEADY MARCH OF NEW PROCEDURES PUTTING THOSE IN PLACE AND GETTING THE NGB TO BE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS THEY HAVE NOT DONE BEFORE AND THOSE PRECEDED THE OPENING OF THE CENTER. THERE WERE CONTROLS PUT IN PLACE THAT WERE PROGRESS BUT NOT ENOUGH AND IF WE COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, I CERTAINLY WISH WE COULD. AND MAKE IT MOVE FASTER. ...

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02:37:35

I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYBODY HERE REALIZED THAT THE TIME FOR TALK IS OVER AND YOU NEED TO WALK YOUR TALK.

02:37:45

I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. BUT I DO HAVE JUST A -- IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE LITTLE FOLLOW UP AND MISS BERRY, DR. BURGESS ASKED ABOUT THE ABUSE OCCURRED AT THE HANDS OF NASSAR AT THE KAROLYI RANCH AND YOU STATED YOU DID NOT WANT THE ATHLETES TO HAVE TO RETURN TO SUCH AN -- AN EMOTIONALLY PAINFUL PLACE WHERE THEY WERE ABUSED AND SO USA JOIX TERMINATED THE AGREEMENT WITH THE KAROLYI RANCH ON JANUARY 18th OF THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE THAT WAS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE. HOWEVER, USA GYMNASTICS WAS AWARE OF ALLEGATIONS AGAINST NASSAR ...

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02:38:40
Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

CHAIRMAN HARBOR, I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. I THINK MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS HOPEFULLY WILL BE ANSWERED THROUGH THE END -- INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT -- IT WAS THAT -- AND MANY THINGS I HAVE DONE IN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE ATHLETES. MAKING SURE THAT THE RANCH WAS CLOSED. MAKING SURE THAT WE SET UP AN ATHLETE ASSISTANT FUND FOR COUNSELING AND MEDICAL SERVICES. MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD AN ATHLETE TASK FORCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNEW THEY HAD A VOICE WITH OUR ORGANIZATION. AND RESTRUCTURING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE SAFE SUPPORT PERSONNEL TO HANDLE THE KINDS OF VOLUME THAT WE HAVE. ...

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02:39:27

THANK YOU. MS. LYONS, WAS THE U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION TO RENEW THE CONTRACT FOR THE KAROLYI RANCH IN APRIL 2017?

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Kerry Perry Kerry Perry

THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. THE USOC HAD WHAT I WOULD CALL A MARKETING LICENSE WITH THE KAROLYI RANCH WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO BE DESIGNATED AT THE TRAINING SITE. THE ACTUAL LEASE OF THE PROPERTY WAS A SPECIAL SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH THE USOC. ...

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02:39:51

MY QUESTION IS -- WAS THE USOC INVOLVED IN THE DECISION? WAS THE USOC AWARE OF THE DECISION TO OPEN IT BACK UP?

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I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I WOULD GUESS THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE KNOWN -- AT LEAST THAT THE LEASE WAS COMING DUE AND IT MIGHT BE UNDER CONSIDERATION. WE DO KNOW THERE WAS CONSIDERING WITH BUYING THE RANCH. ...

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02:40:15

WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND IN MORE DETAIL. MY FINAL POINT -- JUST CURIOUS -- ARE ROUTINE DRUG SCREENS DONE ON THE COACHES? YES OR NO FROM EACH OF YOU. I WILL START WITH YOU, MS. PERRY. I KNOW ATHLETES ARE DRUG TEST. ARE THE COACHES? ARE THERE DRUG STRAINED -- DRUG SCREENS DONE ON THEM? ...

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02:40:39

NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE BUT I WILL FIND OUT.

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I DON'T BELIEVE SO BUT WE WILL FIND OUT.

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YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT. I'M JUST CURIOUS -- IS THAT A PROBLEM? WOULDN'T THAT BE A GOOD THING TO PROBABLY DO?

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

02:41:04
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE FIRST THING IS, MISS LYONS -- MR. CARVER ASKED YOU ABOUT AN ARTICLE FROM THE WASHINGTON POST QUOTING AN E-MAIL BY YOU. AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOUR ENTIRE E-MAIL WAS AND NOT JUST WHAT MR. CARTER WAS BADGERING YOU ABOUT. BECAUSE THE WASHINGTON POST STORY SAYS "LYONS HAD WRITTEN A HEATED E-MAIL TO THREE OTHER USOC EXECUTIVES. INCLUDING THE THEN CEO SCOTT BLACK MEN. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME OLD BS. AND ALLOWING A POTENTIAL SEXUAL PREDATOR TO CONTINUE TO COACH WITHOUT HAVING AN APPROPRIATE -- HAVING AN APPROPRIATE INVESTIGATION AND CONCLUSION IS UNACCEPTABLE. IS AT THE WHOLE CONTENT OF YOUR E-MAIL? ...

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THERE WAS MORE.

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COULD YOU PROVIDE US A COPY OF THAT E-MAIL IF YOU HAVE IT?

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I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT.

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DO YOU AGREE THAT YOU HAD WRITTEN THOSE WORDS?

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I ABSOLUTELY DID.

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Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

ONE OTHER QUESTION. I WANTED TO -- ASK ABOUT WHAT MR. MCNALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT -- WHICH IS -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MR. MCNALLY, YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE ONLY CERTAIN TYPES OF MISDEMEANORS THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION INVESTIGATES. WHETHER IT IS VIOLENT ONCE OR SEXUAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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THAT IS CORRECT.

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Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

AS A FORMER CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER MYSELF, I WILL SAY THAT OFTEN TIMES, MORE SERIOUS OFFENSES LIKE FELONIES, GET PUT DOWN TO MISDEMEANORS. AND EVEN MISDEMEANORS THAT ARE -- THAT DON'T APPEAR TO BE INVOLVING VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS -- DOES YOUR ORGANIZATION MAKE A DISTINCTION -- IF A COMPLAINT COMES IN AND IT IS A MISDEMEANOR LEVEL OR FELONY LEVEL -- OR WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE THE MISDEMEANOR ONES AS WELL? ...

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02:43:12
Shellie Pfohl Shellie Pfohl

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS -- DID SOMEONE REACH THE CODE OF CONDUCT -- WHICH IS MUCH MORE BROAD THAN THE LAW. WE LET LAW ENFORCEMENT HANDLE LAW-ENFORCEMENT ISSUES ABSOLUTELY. CERTAINLY, IF SOMEONE HAS A CRIMINAL DISPOSITION THAT PLAYS INTO OUR INVESTIGATION -- OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THE SAFE SPORTCOAT. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS -- DID SOMEONE BREACH THE CODE. ...

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02:43:39

YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CONDUCT AND NOT NECESSARILY THE LEGAL --

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CORRECT.

02:43:43
Diana L. DeGette, D-CO Diana L. DeGette, D-CO

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE ONE FINAL STATEMENT. IT IS THIS. I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AGREES THAT THIS IS A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENS. AND WE CANNOT LET IT DRIFT ALONG . ORGANIZATIONS THEMSELVES -- THE USOC CANNOT LET IT DRIFT ALONG. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING SO THAT THE CENTER FOR SAFE SPORT CAN DO ITS JOB. AND AS OF TODAY, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF FUNDING, GIVEN THE WAY THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS HAVE ESCALATED. AND SO I WOULD ASK -- IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER -- WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY. BUT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER SCHEDULING A FOLLOW UP HEARING LIKE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, SO WE CAN SEE IF THESE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY BEING IMPLEMENTED. ...

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02:44:37

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL STAY ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM -- OR WHO MAY BE WATCHING -- YOU HAVE BEEN VICTIMS -- I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO STAND UP. AND FOR THE ROLE THAT YOU ARE PLAYING IN PREVENTING FUTURE CASES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS FIGHT ON YOUR BEHALF. IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR WITNESSES AND THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN TODAY'S HEARING. AND I WILL REMIND MEMBERS THAT THEY HAVE 10 BUSINESS DAYS TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD. AND I WOULD ASK THE WITNESSES TO PROMPTLY RESPOND TO THOSE IF YOU STILL RECEIVE THOSE QUESTIONS. WITH THAT, THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED. ...

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