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ALEJANDRA MAYORKAS TESTIFIED ON THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATIONS BORDER AND IMMIGRATION POLICIES BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. HE ADDRESSED SEVERAL ISSUES. SECRETARY MAYORKAS CALLED FOR CONGRESS TO ACT. . ...

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HOO THE HEARING WILL COME TO ORDER. THE FIRST OVERSIGHT HEARING FOR INSTANCE JANUARY 16, 2018. THAT WAS THE SINGLE OCCASION IN THE FOUR YEARS OF TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WE HELD AN AGENCY WIDE DHS OVERSIGHT HEARINGS. ANNUAL HEARINGS WERE RUE TUNE UNDER TO BAM ADMINISTRATION AND I HOPE THAT --. THANK YOU THE SECRETARY FOR APPEARING HERE TODAY. WE'VE WORKED HARD TO FIND THIS DAY ON YOUR CALENDAR AVOIDING PANDEMICS AND EVERY OTHER CHALLENGE THAT WERE THROWN AT US A. I'M GLAD YOU ARE WITH US TODAY. SECRETARY MAYORKAS INHERITED A DEPARTMENT THAT WAS IN CHAOS. UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP, SIX IN TOTAL SECRETARIES, ONLY TWO SENATE CONFIRMED. DON'T TAKE IT FROM ME. LP LISTEN TO EVER SENATE CONFIRMED DHS SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. TWO REPUBLICAN, TWO DEMOCRATS. THEY JOINTLY ROTE IN JANUARY THIS YEAR. THIS IS A -- AVERAGE A NEW SECRETARY IN THIS DEPARTMENT EVERY NINE AND A HALF MONTHS TO MANAGE THE TURBULENT CHALLENGES OF LARGE SCALE CYBER ATTACK, BORDER SECURITY, VIOLENT WHITE NATIONALISM, WILD FIRES IN THE WEST AND STAFF SHAKEUPS AND FIRINGS. THE GROSS POLITICIZATION OF THE AGENCY'S MISSION AND RULINGS FROM THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE. AND AT LEAST ONE COURT THAT THE MOST RECENT FORMER ACTING SECRETARY WAS SERVING ILLEGALLY. I MIGHT REMIND YOU, THOSE ARE COMMENTS BY THE FOUR PREVIOUS SECRETARIES OF DHS, TWO REPUBLICANS AND TWO DEMOCRATS THEY ADDED THE LEADERSHIP VACUUM IN TURMOIL AT DHS MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE FAILURE TO ANTICIPATE AND ADEQUATELY PREPARE FOR THE ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL HILL. THE REFERENCE OF COURSE IS TO THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION. THEIR MESSAGE WAS CLEAR. THE CHAOS DURING THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION HOBBLED DHS AND PUT OUR NATION'S SECURITY AT RISK. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS IMPORTANT AND VAST RESPONSIBILITIES. THE SECRETARY MUST DEAL WITH NATURALLY DISASTERS, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY, CYBER SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM. VIOLENT WHITE SUPREMACIST IS THE MOST CONSISTENT AND LETHAL THREAT IN THE HOMELAND. I'VE BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT THIS THREAT FOR MANY YEARS. IN 2012, I HELD A HEARING FOLLOWING THE MASSACRE BY A WHITE SUPREMACIST OF SIX WORSHIPPERS IN OAK CREEK WISCONSIN. I PRESSED THE DHS WITNESS TO DO MORE TO ADDRESS THIS THREAT. INSTEAD THE DEPARTMENT SHUTTERED ITS ONLY OFFICE DEDICATED TO COMBATTING DOMESTIC TERRORISM AND LAUNCHED A PROGRAM WHICH FOCUSED ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY NOT ON HOW MANY GROAN TERRORISTS BUT AMERICAN MUSLIMS. AS THE JANUARY 6 ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL DEMONSTRATED FOR TOO LONG OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS THE GROWING TERRORIST MENACE IN OUR BACKYARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE SECRETARY ON THIS AND OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING THE AGENCIES AND WHAT CONGRESS CAN DO TO SAFEGUARD OUR NATION. MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE STRONGLY HELD VIEWS ABOUT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND IMMIGRATION. WE'VE HEARD THEM MANY TIMES AND I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR THEM AGAIN THIS MORNING. IT ALMOST SEEMS THEY WOULD LIKE US TO RETURN TO THE POLICIES OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND PERHAPS SOME DO. LET ME REMIND THE COMMITTEE. NOT ONLY WERE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POLICIES OFTEN INHUMANE AND UNLAWFUL, THEY ALSO FAILED TO SECURE OUR BORDER AND FIX OUR BADLY BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SEPARATED NEARLY 4,000 CHILDREN FROM THEIR FAMILIES BETWEEN JULY 1, 2017 AND JANUARY 20, 2021 UNDER THEIR QUOTE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY CAUSING PERMANENT TRAUMA TO THESE KIDS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SHUT DOWN LEGAL AVENUES FOR VULNERABLE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN FLEEING PERSECUTION. THIS CREATED A MASSIVE BOTTLE NECK AT OUR BORDER AND SUPER SIZED THE BACKLOG OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE STILL PENDING IN THE COURTS TSMS FORMER PRESIDENT'S ATTEMPT TO REPEAL DACA, SOMETHING THEY TAKE VERY PERSONALLY, THREATENED YOUNG IMMIGRANTS WITH DEPORTATION TO COUNTRIES THEY MAY NOT EVEN REMEMBER, UNTIL THE SUPREME COURT ANNOUNCED IN A MAJORITY DECISION THAT THAT EFFORT WAS UNLAWFUL. THIS INCLUDES MORE THAN 200,000 DACA RECIPIENTS WHO ARE, QUOTE, ESSENTIAL, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WORKERS, AS DEFINED BY NONE OTHER THAN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S DOECHT HOMELAND SECURITY.DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S ATTEMPT TO TERMINATE PROTECTIVE STATUS PUTS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LONG TIME U.S. RESIDENTS INCLUDING 130,000 ESSENTIAL CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WORKERS AT RISK OF DEPORTATION. MILLIONS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS INCLUDING MORE THAN HALF OF OUR NATION'S 2.4 MILLION FARM WORKERS WHO HAVE COMMITTED NO CRIME AND POSE THAT THREAT TO THIS COUNTRY. THIS CREATED FEAR IN IMMIGRATION COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT DID NOT MAKE US SAFER. IN FACT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ENDANGERED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY BY LITERALLY TRANSFERRING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FUNDS TO BUILD THE PRESIDENT'S SO CALLED BORDER WALL. AMERICAN TAXPAYERS, NOT MEXICAN TAXPAYERS, AS TRUMP HAD PROMISE SOD MANY TIMES, HAVE PAID DEARLY FOR THIS COSTLY ENDEAVOR. EVERY DOLLAR DIVERTED FROM MEN AND WOMEN IN THE UNIFORM FOR THE BORDER WALL WAS APPROPRIATED BY CONGRESS TO ADDRESS A NEED IDENTIFIED IN OUR MILITARY. THIS WAS NOT JUST AN ATTACK ON CONGRESS. IT WAS ATTACK ON MILITARY READINESS. SECRETARY MAYORKAS YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE AS A RESULT OF WHAT YOU INHERITED. LET ME BE CLEAR. I BELIEVE WE CAN SECURE OUR BORDER WHILE TREATING PEOPLE HUMANELY. IT IS NOT ONLY POLICY TO DO SO, IT IS NECESSARY. I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO GO TO RESTORE AMERICA'S BYPASSING TRADITION OF WELCOMING REFUGEES. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SET RECORD LOWS FOR REFUGEE ADMISSIONS FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. SADLY U IN FISCAL YEAR 2021 WHICH ENDED TWO WEEKS AGO, THE U.S. HAD ADMITTED ONLY 11411,411 REFUGEES. A SMALL TINY FRACTION OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S GOAL OF 62,500 AND LOWER THAN ANY YEAR DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. I BELIEVE WE MUST DO BETTER. IT IS EASY TO CRITICIZE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, BUT EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AS WELL. ONLY CONGRESS CAN ACTUALLY FIX OUR BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. OF COURSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CRISIS OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER. EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS SHOULD BE. THE QUESTION NOT ONLY WHAT HAPPENED BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THE CONGRESS, THE SENATE, ARE WE PROUD OF OUR FAILURE TO PASS MEANINGFUL IMMIGRATION REFORM FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS? CONGRESS BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR. THIS I'VE TRIED FOR MANY YEARS TO PASS SUCH LEGISLATION, UNFORTUNATELY MANY TIMES SOME REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCTED IT. THEY FILL BUSTERED THE DREAM ACT FIVE SEPARATE TIMES. AND THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE BLOCKED THE 2014 IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WOULD HAVE INVESTED TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SECURING OUR BORDER. WE WERE UNABLE TO MAKE PROGRESS. IN FACT THERE WERE SOME WHO CAME FORWARD AND SAID WE HAVE TO CUT LEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE. I'M WORKING TO PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM THROUGH RECONCILIATION. AND STILL UNRESOLVED WITH THAT WILL BE BUT I HOPE IT IS ACHIEVED. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. MANY OF WHOM RISKED THEIR LIVES TO GET TO AMERICA AND TO STAY HERE AND RISK THEIR LIVES AGAIN DURING THE PANDEMIC. THIS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND REBUILDING COMMUNITIES AND CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER. WITH THAT I TURN TO RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY FOR HIS OPENING STATEMENT. ...

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Chuck Grassley Chuck Grassley

I'M GOING START BY READING THE OATH THAT CABINET PEOPLE TAKE BEFORE THEY START THEIR JOB. DO SOLEMNLY SWEARLY SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION. AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE ON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER, SO HELP ME GOD. YESTERDAY, ON TV, IF YOU WERE WATCHING, AND IT WAS REPORTED BUT YOU COULD ALSO SEE PEOPLE CROSSING THE BORDER IN VIOLATION OF OUR LAWS THAT ARE PASSED UNDER THAT CONSTITUTION. I'M ASKED BY IOWANS, SENATOR GRASSLEY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE CRISIS AT THE BORDER? MY USUAL ANSWER AND, I HOPE IT IS NOT INTERPRETED BY MY CONSTITUENTS AS AVOID MIG RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT I SAY WE PASS ALL KIND OF LAWS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES MAKING IT ILLEGALLY TO ENTER THE COUNTRY UNLESS YOU COME HERE WITH OUR PERMISSION. I'M GLAD WE'RE FINALLY HOLDING A HEARING WE CAN DISCUSS THE CRISIS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS CREATED AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS ONE AND SEVEN TENTHS -- ENCOUNTERS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER, FISCAL 2021. THAT IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER EVER RECORDED. IT IS HIGHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL POPULATIONS OF AT LEAST 11 STATES. OF THAT NUMBER, 1 IN 4/10 MILLION TOOK PLACE IN THE WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS IN OFFICE AND CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS HAD A MAJORITY IN CONGRESS. SO IN MONTHS OF UNIFIED CONTROL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS PRESIDED OVER 1 FOUR TENTHS MILLION ENCOUNTERS WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDER. THAT IS AN ASTOUNDING NUMBER. BECAUSE UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION CHILDREN HAVE BEEN RETAINED, DETAINED UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS FOR WHICH CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS LOUDLY AND REPEATEDLY CRITICIZED THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS CRISIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF IRRESPONSIBLE POLICIES. RECKLESS POLICIES. DANGEROUS IMMIGRATION POLICIES, PURSUED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. AND BY YOU SECRETARY MAYORKAS AND POLITICAL LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS, ICE AND BORDER PATROL. DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. ON MARCH THE 10th.REUTERS REPORTED THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO WAS WORRIED THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S ASYLUM POLICIES WERE, QUOTE, STOKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND CREATING BUSINESS FOR ORGANIZED CRIME. ITS BEEN REPORTED THAT CARTELS ARE GETTING RICH PAY -- YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM TO CROSS THE BORDER. TO CROSS THE RIO GRANDE. FORMER CHIEF OF THE U.S. BORDER PATROL RODNEY SCOTT SENT A LETTER TO CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP ON SEPTEMBER THE 11thSTATING THAT THE SEISMIC SHIFT IN BORDER SECURITY AND IMMIGRATION POLICY THAT WAS INITIATED ON JANUARY 20, 2021, END OF QUOTE, CREATED THE CURRENT CRISIS AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND THAT THIS CRISIS CONSTITUTES A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO OUR NATION. AND ALL YOU GOT DO DO IS GO BACK THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. WE ARRESTED TWO PEOPLE FROM YEMEN THAT WERE ON TERRORIST LISTS OF THE UNITED STATES. SCOTT SERVED AS BORDER PATROL AGENT AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENTEM AGENT FOR OVER 29 YEARS AND UNDER FIVE DIFFERENT PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS. INCLUDING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. HE SAID WHAT HE WITNESSED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION WAS, QUOTE, A LACK OF ANY MEANINGFUL TO SECURE OUR BORDERS. IN HIS PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT, QUOTE, THE U.S. BORDER PATROL IS RAPIDLY LOSING THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS REQUIRED TO KNOW WHO AND WHAT IS ENTERING OUR HOMELAND. MR. SCOTT ALSO SAID THAT SECRETARY MAYORKAS WAS CHOOSING TO IGNORE SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS OF CAREER GOVERNMENT LEADERSHIP DESPITE HIS OWN ADMISSIONS THAT HE AGREES WITH THEM. THIS SORRY STATE OF AFFAIRS IS ENTIRELY PREVENTABLE. UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO THE RECKLESS POLICIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, IT WAS ALSO ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE. WHEN YOU TERMINATE PHYSICAL BARRIER CONSTRUCTIONS. WHEN YOU SEVERELY RESTRICT THE ABILITY OF ICE TO DEPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. WHEN YOU TERMINATE THE REMAIN IN MEXICO POLICY. WHEN YOU ROLL BACK ASYLUM COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS, WHEN YOU'VE GOT TITLE 42. WHEN YOU OPENLY SUPPORT SANCTUARY CITIES POLICIES, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED WHEN THERE IS A SURGE AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. WHEN YOU ALLOW THE ACLU AND OPEN BORDER IMMIGRATION ACTIVISTS RATHER THAN CAREER LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS TO DICTATE THE TERMS OF YOUR IMMIGRATION AND BORDER POLICY, THEN YOU SHOULD BE SURPRISED WHEN RECORD SHATTERING NUMBERS OF PEOPLE START SHOWING UP AT THE BORDERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SITUATION. WHEN YOU RUN DHS LIKE IT IS AN ABOLISH ICE FAN CLUB. YOU SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU HAVE AN IMMIGRATION CRISIS ON YOUR HANDS. THE MOST SOLID RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF UNITED STATES. ONE OF THE SOLEMN RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY OF THE UNITED STATES IS AND UPHOLD THE RULE OF LAW ACCORDING TO THE OATH THAT WAS TAKEN BY EVERYBODY IN THE CABINET. IN CHOOSING TO ACTIVELY IGNORE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS PASSED BY CONGRESS AND IN CHOOSING TO PURSUE POLICIES THAT ENCOURAGE UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS OF UNCONTROLLED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES, THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THIS DEPARTMENT HAVE FAILED ON BOTH COUNTS. I'M GLAD, AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF TRYING TO GET THIS HEARING, WE FINALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLIC TO DISCUSS WITH THESE LEADERS THESE ISSUES AND TO HOLD THESE LEADERS TO ACCOUNT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. ...

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Chuck Grassley Chuck Grassley

THANK YOU SENATOR GRASSLEY. WE WELCOME SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE HON ROBBLE ALE MAYORKAS.ORABLE ALE MAYORKAS. FIVE MINUTES FOR OPENING STATEMENTS. A ROUND OF QUESTIONS. EACH SENATOR WILL HAVE SEVEN MINUTES. SEVEN MINUTES. PLEASE NO NEW QUESTIONS AFTER THE SEVEN MINUTES ARE REACHED. PLEASE TRY TO REMAIN WITHIN YOUR ALLOTTED TIME. FOLLOWING THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTION, IF SENATORS WISH TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND WITH THREE MINUTES EACH. SECRETARY MAYORKAS IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND. DO YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, DO YOU AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE WILL BE THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD. ...

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LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE SECRETARY ANSWERED IN THE AVERMENTIVE. SECRETARY MAYORKAS THE FLOR IS YOUR.FFIRMATIVE. SECRETARY MAYORKAS THE FLOR IS YOUR.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN YOU TODAY. EVERY DAY 250,000 MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONFRONT CRITICAL AND COMPLEX CHALLENGES AS WE WORK TO ACHIEVE OUR NOBLE MISSION OF SAFEGUARDING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, OUR HOMELAND AND OUR VALUES. THE DEDICATION AND TALENT OF OUR EXTRAORDINARY WORKFORCE IS UNSURPASSED, AND I AM PRIVILEGED TO SERVE LOJDS THEM. OUR DEPARTMENT IS EXPANSIVE, THE THIRD LARGEST IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OUR MORE THAN 20 AGENCIES AND OFFICES JOIN FORCES AND WORK TOGETHER TO FULFILL THE MANY DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES WE HAVE. FROM INVESTIGATING APPREHENDING AND HELPING BRING TO JUSTICE THOSE WHO EXPLOIT CHILDREN, TO RESCUING THOSE 234IN DISTRESS AT SEA. OUR PERSONNEL SO MUCH IN THE SERVICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I WILL HIGHLIGHT THE WORK IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM, ENHANCING CYBER SECURITY, REBUILDING IMMIGRATION, BRINGING TO SAFETY THOSE WHO SUPPORTED US IN WAR AND COMBATTING CLIMATE CHANGE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING OF SO MUCH MORE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTIONS. FIRST OUR WORK IN THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM. OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE BUILT A RIGOROUS AND MULTI LAIRD SECURITY, SCREENING AND VETTING ARCHITECTURE TO COMBAT THE EVOLVING TERRORIST THREAT. WE E REMAIN EVER VIGILANT IN PROTECTING OUR HOMELAND FROM FOREIGN TERRORISTS SEEKING TO DO HARM WHILE COMBATTING HOME GROWN AND DOMESTIC VIOLENT EXTREMISTS WHO NOW POST THE MOST PERSISTENT AND SIGNIFICANT TERRORISM RELATED THREAT FACING OUR COUNTRY. LAST WEEK WE I SHOULD OUR FOURTH NATIONAL TERRORISM ADVISORY BULLETIN IN LINE WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ABOUT THE EVOLVING THREAT LANDSCAPE FACING OUR HOMELAND TODAY. OVER THE PAST NINE MONTHS WE ESTABLISHED A DEDICATED DOMESTIC TERRORISM BRANCH WITHIN OUR OFFICE OF INTELLIGENCE AND ANALYSIS, LAUNCHED THE CENTER FOR PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE COMMUNITIES WITH EVIDENCE BASED TOOLS TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS FROM RADICAL IEZING TO VIOLENCE AND REDOUBLED OUR EFFORTS TO SHARE TIMELY AND ACTIONABLE INFORMATION WITH OUR PARTNERS ACROSS EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENTIZING TO VIOLENCE AND REDOUBLED OUR EFFORTS TO SHARE TIMELY AND ACTIONABLE INFORMATION WITH OUR PARTNERS ACROSS EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT THIS YEAR WE DESIGNATED COMBATS DOMESTIC EXTREMISM A NATIONAL PRIORITY AREA IN OUR FEMA GRANT PROGRAMS, RESULTING IN AT LEAST 77 MILLION DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON CAPABILITIES TO DETECT AND PROTECT AGAINST THIS THREAT NATIONWIDE. SECOND, AS CYBER THREATS HAVE GROWN SO HAVE NATION'S EFFORTS TO STRENGTHEN RESILIENCE AND PROTECT INFRASTRUCTURE. RANSOMWARE INCIDENTS HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE WITH VICTIMS PAYING AB ESTIMATED 350 MILLION DOLLARS IN RANSOMS LAST YEAR, A 311% INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. THIS SUMMER, ALONGSIDE OTHER FEDERAL PARTNERS, DHS LAUNCHED STOP RANSOMWARE.GOV, THE FIRST GOVERNMENT WEBSITE TO COMBAT RANSOMWARE BY HELPING ORGANIZATIONS OF ALL SIZES MITIGATE THEIR RISKS AND INCREASE THEIR RESILIENCE. THROUGH CISA, OUR NATION'S CYBER SECURITY QUARTERBACK WE ANNOUNCED THE CREATION OF THE JOINT CYBER DEFENSE COLLABORATIVE. A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WILL PREVENT AND REDUCE THE IMPACT OF CYBER INTRUSIONS AND ENSURE A UNIFIED RESPONSE WHEN THEY OCCUR. TWO WEEKS AGO, CISA ISSUE AD BINDING OPERATIONAL DIRECTIVE REQUIRING FEDERAL CIVILIAN DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES TO PROTECT AGAINST MORE THAN 250 KNOWN CYBER VULNERABILITIES. TSA ISSUED TWO NEW SECURITY DIRECTIVES TO PROTECT THE PIPELINES AND THE AGENCY CONTINUES TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT STEPS TO EXPAND PROTECTION FOR SURFACE TRANSPORTATION, AVIATION AND RAIL TRANSIT ENTITIES. CISA AND YOU ARE OFFICE OF INTELLIGENCE AND ANALYSIS ARE WORKING WITH ALL FIFTY STATES, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND ELECTION TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS TO KEEP OUR ELECTIONS SECURE. WE ARE DEVELOPING A MORE SKILLED, ROBUST AND DIVERSE CYBER SECURITY WORKFORCE. IN MAY WE INITIATED THE DEPARTMENT'S LARGEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL CYBER SECURITY HIRING INITIATIVE IN ITS HISTORY. YESTERDAY WE LAUNCHED THE DHS CYBER SECURITY SERVICE TO ENABLE OUR DEPARTMENT TO BETTER COMPETE FOR TOP TIER AND MISSION CRITICAL CYBER SECURITY TALENT. THIRD, WE ARE ADDRESSING A REGULAR MIGRATION AND WORKING TO REBUILD A SAFE, ORDERLY AND HUMANE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. THE CHALLENGE OF DOING SO IS MADE MORE DIFFICULT BY THE ONGOING IMPACTS OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND A SYSTEM THAT WAS DECIMATED BY THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. WE MUST INVEST IN ADDRESSING ROOT CAUSES CREATING LEGAL PATHWAYS AND ENSURING SWIFT ADJUDICATION OF ASYLUM CLAIMS. THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN. A FACT THAT EVERYONE AGREE UPON. CONGRESS MUST PASS LEGISLATION TO FIX IT. IN THE MEANTIME WE ARE TAKING ACTION WITHIN OUR AUTHORITIES. WE ARE ENFORCING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS, INCLUDING THOSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND HUMANITARIAN RELIEF. WE ARE ENFORCING EXPEDITED REMOVAL, OPERATING REPATRIATION FLIGHTS AND --. WE HAVE LEVERAGED FEMA'S COORDINATION CAPABILITIES, YOU ARE ACTIVATED OUR VOLUNTEER FORCE OF EMPLOYEES FROM ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT AND EXPANDED OUR PROCESSING CAPACITY. WE HAVE PROPOSED A NEW REGULATION TO STREAMLINE THE ASYLUM PROCESS THAT FAIRLY AND EFFICIENTLY ADJUDICATE CLAIMS RESULTING IN THE PROMPT APPROVAL OF THOSE WHO QUALIFY AND THE PROMPT REMOVAL OF THOSE WHO DEMOCRAT. WE ARE EXPANDING SAFE AND LEGAL PATHWAYS AND PROGRAMS. WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF H 2 B VISAS AVAILABLE FOR FISCAL 2021, CREATING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO WORK LEGALLY AND ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IN THE UNITED STATES IN POSITIONS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE FILLED. WE ALSO ADDED SIX NEW COUNTRIES TO THE LIST OF THOSE ELIGIBLE TO H2A AND H 2 BE VISA. WE ARE FOCUSING OUR CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PRIORITIES ON INDIVIDUALS WHO POSE A CURRENT THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY, PUBLIC SAFETY AND BORDER SECURITY. WE ARE FOCUSING OUR WORK SITE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ON UNSCRUPULOUS EMPLOYER WHO IS EXPLOIT THE VULNERABLE CREATE UNFAIR LABOR MARKETS AND HARM LAW-ABIDING EMPLOYER WHO IS FOLLOW THE RULES. WE ARE PERFORMING THIS WORK WITH UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING PRIVACY, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AND MAKING RISK-BASED INVESTMENTS TO COMBAT REAL THREAT TOURS COMMUNITIES. FOURTH, THE DEPARTMENT THE PROUD TO LEAD ALLIES WELCOME OUR GOVERNMENT EFFORT TO RESETTLE VULNERABLE AFGHAN NATIONALS IN OUR COUNTRY. A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WORK FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OR ARE COALITION FORCES OR ARE FAMILY MEMBER OF SOMEONE WHO DID. MANY ARE FAMILY MEMBERS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS AND GREEN CARD HOLDERS. OTHERS WORKED AT JOURNALISTS, HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVITIES OR ON HUMANITARIAN MISSIONS. ALONG WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE ARE EMPLOYING A MULTI LAYERED AND RIGOROUS SCREENING AND VETTING PROCESS THAT BEGINS OVERSEAS, BEFORE INDIVIDUALS ARE CLEARED TO TRAVEL TO THE UNITED STATES. AND IT CONTINUES UPON THEIR ARRIVAL IN THIS COUNTRY. WE ARE ALSO ENSURING THAT AFGHAN NATIONALS ARRIVING IN THE UNITED STATES UNDERGO MEDICAL SCREENINGS, RECEIVE APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND CAN BUILD A NEW LIFE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THIS WORK IS BEING DONE IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, NON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO CONGRESS FOR OUR PROVIDING FUNDING TO SUPPORT THIS HISTORIC CAUSE. FINALLY, WE ARE COMBATTING THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT POSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. TO HELP COMMUNITIES RECOVER AND REMAIN RESILIENT, PRESIDENT BIDEN DOUBLED THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITIES PROGRAM DEDICATING ONE BILLION DOLLARS TO WILD FIRE RESILIENCE EFFORTS, FLOOD CONTROL AND MORE. DHS ALSO AUTHORIZED NEARLY $3.5 BILLION IN HAZARD ADMINISTRATION GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING TO HELP STATES, TRIBES AND TERRITORIES ADAPT AND PREPARE FOR THE IMPACT OF THE CLIMATE CRISIS. FURTHER FEMA REVISED POLICIES FOR AID PROGRAMS. WE CAN EXECUTE THIS CRITICAL MISSION BAUGZ OF OUR INCREDIBLE WORKFORCE AND KEY PARTNERS, MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE, THE ALLIES ABROAD, PRIVATE SECTOR, NON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AND MORE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. ...

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Dick Durbin Dick Durbin

THANK YOU MR. SECRETARY. ONE OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY SENATOR GRASSLEY AND WE CERTAINLY HEARD REPEATED OVER IS THE RESPONSE TO THE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S INTERAGENCY TASK FORCE AND REUNIFICATION OF FAMILIES IDENTIFIED 3,914 CHILDREN SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER BETWEEN JULY 2017 AND JANUARY 2021 WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP LEFT OFFICE. OF THESE 2,073 HAVE BEEN REUNITED WITH THEIR PARENTS. THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 1,800 CHILDREN WHO WERE SEPARATED DURING THE TRUMP YEAR WHO IS ACCORDING TO THIS TASK FORCE REPORT HAVE NOT BEEN REUNITED WITH THEIR PARENTS. WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATS OF THESE CHILDREN? ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION. I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW PARENTS WHOSE CHIRND WERE RIPPED FROM THEIR ARMS UNDER THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. AND TRAGICALLY THE TRAUMA OF THAT SEPARATION, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY REUNITED CONTINUES. THAT TASK FORCE, AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL KPEKD WHO WORKS DAY TO DAY IN THE EFFORT ISEXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO WORKS DAY TO DAY IN THE EFFORT IS IS. WE RECENTLY LAUNCHED A WEBSITE WHERE FAMILIES WHO WERE INDEED SEPARATED CAN REGISTER FOR RELIEF. WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL FOR THE FAMILIES. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT, THE NATION'S OF ORIGIN TO ACCELERATE THE PROVISION OF PASSPORTS FOR PARENT WHO IS DO INDEED WANT TO COME HERE. ...

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00:31:57

LET ME ASK YOU MR. SECRETARY. YOU HAVE HEARD THEIR CRITICISM, THAT YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT TRUMP DID WITH ZERO TOLERANCE. ARE YOU IN FACT FORCIBLY SEPARATING CHILDREN FROM THEIR FAMILIES WITHOUT GOOD CAUSE? ...

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00:32:09
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND LET ME ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MIGRATION, TO WORK WITH TRUSTED VOICES, TO REBUILD THE TRUST OF THE PARENTS, THAT THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION DESTROYED, SO THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO COME FORWARD AND BE REUNITED WITH THEIR CHILDREN. ...

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00:32:31
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

MR. SECRETARY. YOU KNOW MY INTEREST IN THE DREAM ACT. AND DACA. AS WELL AS DAPA, AND THE EFFORTS CONGRESS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN. WE HAD COURT DECISIONS ON PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EFFORT TO ELIMINATE DACA PROTECTION FOR THE THOUSANDS WHO RECEIVED IT. WHAT EFFORTS IS DHS MAKING TO REDUCE THE BACKLOG OF DACA RENEWAL APPLICATIONS? AT THE END OF JUNE I UNDERSTAND 84,000 REQUESTS WERE PENDING INCLUDING 13,000 RENEWALS FOR MORE THAN 120 DAYS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? ...

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00:33:05
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

MR. CHAIRMAN OUR EFFORTS ARE WELL UNDER WAY IN THAT REGARD. WELFARE WE ARE PRIORITIZING APPLICATIONS BASED UPON THEIR EXPIRATION DATE SO WE MAKE SURE THAT NO LAPSES IN DEFERRED ACTION FOR CHILDHOOD E JIBLT OCCUR. WE ARE ALSO WHEN RENEW APPLICATION MAKING IT EFFECTIVE UPON THE DATE OF EXPIRATION SO THERE IS NO GAP OF ELIGIBLE. ...

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00:33:36

WHAT IS THE BACKLOG NOW?

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I'M HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE PRECISE NUMBER AND I WILL DO SO.

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I HOPE PROMPTLY.

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WE HAVE A WORKED, VERY VERY VIGILANTLY TO REDUCE.

00:33:52
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SUGGESTIONS OF SOME PEOPLE WHO MANAGED TO GET ACROSS THE BOARDER AND MAKE SOME CLAIM OR HAVE A RIGHT UNDER ASYLUM LAW TO BE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE RELEASED AND NEVER SEEN AGAIN. THAT THEY ARE SOMEHOW GO INTO THE NATION AT LARGE, DON'T SHOW UP FOR THEIR HEARINGS AND THAT IT IS WORSE NOW THAN IT WAS UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IS THAT TRUE? ...

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00:34:12
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THE TERM CATCH AND RELEASE HAS BEEN USED VERY LOOSELY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS ACROSS DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS. INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT REMOVED, WHO ARE NOT EXPELLED UNDER THE CDC TITLE 42 AUTHORITY ARE PLACED INTO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS. THOSE WHO ABSCOND ARE A PRIORITY FOR REMOVAL UNDER THE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PRIORITIES THAT I ISSUED ON SEPTEMBER 30th....

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DO THEY SHOW UP AT THEIR HEARINGS?

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THE GREAT MAJORITY DO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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AND ARE THERE CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN SUGGEST WOULD MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THEY SHOW UP AT THEIR HEARINGS?

00:34:49
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

AND WE ARE IMPOSING THOSE CONDITION MR. CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO DETENTION FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN IMMIGRATION DETENTION. WE HAVE IMPOSED CONDITIONS OF PATROL WITH ALTERNATIVES TO DE DETENTION. AND THOSE CONDITIONS BETTER ENSURE THEIR APPEARANCE IN COURT. WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH INDIVIDUALS MOST EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT IS NOT AN INTENT TO ABSCOND BUT A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND A VERY LABYRINTHIAN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. WE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS EFFORT. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ANOTHER ONE OF THE FOX GREATEST HITS ARE THAT YOU DON'T DO COVID-19 TESTING AND IN FACT YOU ARE TURNING MIGRANTS LOOGTSE AT THE BORDER AND THEY ARE SPREADING COVID-19 ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IS THAT TRUE? ...

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00:35:41
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE TEST MIGRANTS AND PLACE THEM IN ISOLATION OR QUARANTINE AS RESULTS REQUIRE. WE HAVE BUILT AN ARCHITECTURE WITH NOT GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AND ACROSS THE FEDERAL ENTERPRISE TO TEST MIGRANTS. AND IN FACT WHEN NON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS ASSIST US IN THAT EFFORT WE HAVE PROVIDED FEMA REIMBURSEMENT FOR THEM THROUGH THE STATE IF THOSE STATES COOPERATE WITH US. ...

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00:36:05
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE KNOW SMUGGLERS ARE ENDANGERING AND EXPLOITING THOSE MIGRANTS WHO ARE ANXIOUS TO FIND A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. WE SAW THAT JUST RECENTLY IN DEL RIO TEXAS, WHEN SO MANY HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS SEEMED TO APPEAR ALMOST BY DESIGN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM. HOW DID THEY HAPPEN TO ALL COME TOGETHER DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME? ...

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00:36:39
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OPERATIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING AFTER LOGISTICS AND WALKING THE MONEY AND APPREHENDING THEM THAT WAY. I HAVE MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF MEXICO AND ASSISTED IN THE APPREHENSION OF ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS. WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT EXPORT THE VULNERABLE AND FACILITATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. ...

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00:37:08

WHAT IS THE BACKLOG IN IMMIGRATION COURTS? I UNDERSTAND IT WAS 1.4 MILLION CASES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROGRESS MADE IS THIS. ...

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THERE'S BEEN MODEST PROGRESS, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON. THIS HAS BEEN AN ENDURING CHALLENGE. IT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND IN DIRE NEED OF LEGISLATIVE FIX. ...

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00:37:30

SENATOR GRASSLEY.

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Chuck Grassley Chuck Grassley

WELCOME SECRETARY. ON OCTOBER THE 28th THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" REPORTED THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT, AND SEVERAL OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE INVOLVED IN TALKS TO OFFER MASSIVE FINANCIAL PAYMENTS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THIS IS BEING DONE IN ORDER TO SETTLE LITIGATION REGARDING THE ZERO TOLERANCE ENFORCEMENT POLICY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MANY AMERICANS THINK IT IS PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS IDEA TO OFFER MASSIVE TAXPAYER-FUNDED PAYMENTS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO BROKE OUR LAWS, PARTICULARLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECORD-SHATTERING BORDER CRISIS THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS CREATED. THE JOURNAL MADE IT CLEAR THAT DHS IS INVOLVED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS, AS THE LEADER OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, PRESUMABLY YOU HAVE BEEN KEPT IN THE LOOP. WERE YOU AWARE OF THE PAYMENTS AMOUNTS UNDER CONSIDERATION? ...

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00:38:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS LEADING THE NEGOTIATIONS IN LITIGATION ARISING FROM THE FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY OF THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. I AM NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. I MUST DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. MY FOCUS IN LEADING THE TASK FORCE IS TO REUNIFY THE FAMILIES WHO WERE SEPARATED UNDER THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. ...

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00:39:01
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY. MR. SECRETARY, THE WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY AND THE ACLU HAVE ALL ALREADY OFFERED PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THESE SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS SO WE EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT DHS'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE CASE. SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS NO INVOLVEMENT. ...

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00:39:25
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I AM NOT AWARE OF OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS ACT THAT ARE BEING HANDLE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. MY FOCUS IS ON THE REUNIFICATION OF THE FAMILIES, THE PARENTS WHO WERE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN. ...

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00:39:41
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DEATH GRATUITY PROGRAM THE FAMILY OF A SERVICE MEMBER WHO DIES -- TAX FREE PAYMENT OF 100,000 DOLLARS. DO YOU THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WHO BROKE OUR LAWS TO RECEIVE MORE MONEY FROM OUR GOVERNMENT THAN THE FAMILY OF A FALLEN SERVICE MEMBER RECEIVES UNDER THAT PROGRAM? ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY. WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL SACRIFICES HOR LIFE IN THE SERVICE OF OUR COUNTRY WEARING OUR NATION'S UNIFORM THE FAMILY AND ALL MAKE THAT SACRIFICE AS WELL. AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL OF THOSE WHO. I MUST AGAIN DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WITH RESPECT TO LITIGATION IN LITIGATION OF FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS. THAT IS NOT WITHIN MY PROVINCE. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" PIECE THAT INDICATES THAT AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS ATTORNEYS COMPLAINED THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PAYOUT UNDER DISCUSSION WOULD BE MORE THAN SOME 9/11 VICTIMS FAMILIES RECEIVED UNDER THAT PROGRAM. UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, IF ANY, DO YOU THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WHO BROKE OUR LAWS TO RECEIVE MORE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAN ANY ONE FAMILY IN THE 9/11 VICTIMS? ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I HAVE THE HEARTBROKEN HONOR OF MEETING A NUMBER OF FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES AS A RESULT OF 9/11 ON THE 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THAT TRAGIC DAY. AND WE ARE DEVOTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF THOSE FAMILIES. AGAIN, RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY, THE RESIDENCE RESOLUTION, THE NEGOTIATION OF THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS ACT ARISING FROM FAMILY SEPARATION IS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. ...

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00:41:35
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WELL, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO COMMENT ON ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS OR LEGAL MATTERS. I'M ASKING YOU FOR YOUR OPINION ON WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TO RECEIVE MORE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAN THE FAMILY OF 9/11 VICTIMS. I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SO I'M GOING TO GO ON. THERE ARE APPROXIMATE LIT 1 AND 2/10 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THE UNITED STATES ORDERED REMOVAL. THEY HAVE RECEIVED DUE PROCESS AND ORDERED IMMIGRATION BY A JUDGE. IN YOUR MEMO YOU SAID THE FACT THAT A INDIVIDUAL IS REMOVABLE NON CITIZEN SHOULD NOT ALONE BE THE BASIS OF AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST THEM, ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST THEM DOES THAT REASONING APPLY TO THE IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE RECEIVED DUE PROCESS AND GIVEN A FINAL RECORD OF REMOVAL BY AN IMMIGRATION JUDGE? ...

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00:42:46
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY, THE POLICY THAT I ISSUED ON SEPTEMBER 30th, I DREW FROM TREMENDOUS EXPERIENCE, NOT ONLY AS A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY BUT AS A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. WE CANNOT REMOVE 1.2 MILLION INDIVIDUAL, NOR CAN WE REMOVE MORE THAN 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE FINAL ORDERS OF REMOVAL. ...

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YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT ON THAT POINT. BUT MY QUESTION IS, DOES THE REASONING APPLY TO THE 1 AND 2/10 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WHO HAVE RECEIVED DUE PROCESS.

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IT CERTAINLY DOES AND I -- HOWEVER, I WOULD NOT NECESSARILY ACCEPT THE FACT THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE RECEIVED DUE PROCESS.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

DO YOU AGREE ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES? I GUESS -- YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T REMOVE 1 AND 2/10 MILLION. SHOULD ANY OF THEM BE REMOVED? OF COURSE I DO ...

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00:43:53
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OF COURSE I DO BELIEVE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS POSE A PUBLIC SAFETY, POSE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT, WHO POSE A BORDER SECURITY THREAT SHOULD BE REMOVED AND WE SHOULD BE SMART AND EFFECTIVE IN OUR USE OF RESOURCES. AND WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND PRIORITIZE INDIVIDUALS FOR REMOVAL. JUST AS I DID AS AN ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY. JUST AS ANY RESPONSIBLE PROSECUTING OFFICE DOES IN THE COUNTRY. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO YOUR JOB. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. LAST QUESTION. HAVE ANY MIGRANT FAMILIES AT ALL BEEN SEPARATED DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. WERE ANY MIGRANT FAMILIES SEPARATED DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, DURING WHICH YOU SERVED MULTIPLE SENIOR POSITIONS AT DHS, INCLUDING DEPUTY SECRETARY SECRETARY. ...

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TO PURPOSELY SEPARATE A CHILD FROM THE PARENT FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DETERRING IRREGULAR MIGRATION OF OTHERS. WE ENDED THAT CRUEL POLICY ON DAY ONE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. ...

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THANK YOU SENATOR GRASSLEY.

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I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER OF ANY MEMBERS WERE SO IMPORTANT.

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THANK YOU SENATOR GRASSLEY. SENATOR FEINSTEIN.

00:45:19
Dianne Feinstein Dianne Feinstein

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND MR. MAYORKAS, I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME. IT IS VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU SITTING THERE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I WANT THE ASK A CONTROVERSIAL QUESTION, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH GUNS. EACH YEAR -- EXCUSE ME, LAST MONTH TSA ANNOUNCED THEIR OFFICERS HAVE SEIZED 4,495 FIREARMS AT SECURITY POINTS THIS YEAR. THAT IS NEW RECORD. IN THE AGENCY'S 20 YEAR HISTORY. HAVING AN AVERAGE OF MORE THAN A DOZEN FIREMANS SEIZED AT AIRPORT CHECKPOINTS EACH DAY IS REALLY TROUBLING. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING? TO WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THIS INCREASE? AND HOW IS TSA COMBATTING THIS VERY CONCERNING ISSUE? ...

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SENATOR, IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU, AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE PROVIDED ME THROUGHOUT MY ENFORCEMENT CAREER.

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COULD YOU SPEAK UP PLEASE? I DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

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I JUST EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO YOU, SENATOR FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

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THANK YOU.

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AND THROUGHOUT MY ENFORCEMENT CAREER.

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THANK YOU.

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AND IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU.

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THANK YOU.

00:46:37
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

IT IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE FOR THE INCREASE IN THE CARRYING OF FIREARM, THE ATTEMPTED CARRYING OF FIREARMS THROUGH SECURITY CHECKPOINTS IN THE AIRPORTS. I CAN ASSURE YOU, SENATOR, THAT TSA IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO BOTH INTERDICT THAT AND TO PREVENT IT FROM CONTINUING TO OCCUR. WE HAVE BEEN VERY ROBUST IN OUR COMMUNICATION TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, THAT THAT OFFENSE WILL BE DEALT WITH CRIMINALLY IF APPROPRIATE AND CERTAINLY CIVILLY AS WELL. WE MUST PUT AN END TO THAT. IT JEOPARDIZES PEOPLE IN THE AIRPORTS AND OF COURSE OF OUR OWN PERSONNEL, FRONTLINE PERSONNEL WHO RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY IN THE SERVICE OF OUR COUNTRY. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WELL, I THANK YOU FOR THAT. SINCE 2012, A TOTAL OF 12.7 MILLION ACRES HAVE BURNED IN MY STATE. THAT IS 1 OUT OF EVERY 8 ACRES IN CALIFORNIA. 53% OF THE FOREST IN CALIFORNIA IS FEDERAL. FEDERAL SALARIES WERE WAY DOWN. WE HAVE NOW CHANGED THAT. TO ENABLE THE POSITION A WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER TO BE BOOSTED SUBSTANTIALLY. WHAT CAN YOUR AGENCY DO TO HELP CONTROL FIRE, WHICH IS GOING TO GET WORSE AS THE CLIMATE GETS LARGER AND PARTICULARLY IN BIG STATES, WITH 53% OF OUR FORESTLAND IN CALIFORNIA BEING FEDERAL? ...

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00:48:26
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, WE'RE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP. TO ADDRESS THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND WILD FIRES IN THE WEST IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT THREAT. WE HAVE INCREASED GRANT DOLLARS TO STATES AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO BUILD RESILIENCE TO FIRES AND, IMPORTANTLY, TO FOCUS ON PREVENTIVE EFFORTS. OUR OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IS DEVELOPING INGROUND SENSORS THAT CAN BETTER DETECT WHEN A FIRE MAY ACTUALLY BREAK OUT. WE HAVE AN ALL-OF-DEPARTMENT EFFORT IN THIS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND BOTH THE GRAVITY AND THE BREADTH OF THE THREAT THAT CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING THE SPREAD OF WILD FIRS, POSES TO OUR WELL-BEING. ...

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00:49:18
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

DO YOU SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN THE SALARY OF WILDLAND FIREFIGHTERS THAT IN TERMS OF A COMPARISON WITH CALIFORNIA? THEY ARE NON COMPETITIVE AND WE HAVE 500 VACANCIES. WE HAVE THE LEGISLATION PENDING TO CORRECT THAT. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT IT. ...

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I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SO, SENATOR.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS MR. CHAIRMAN.

00:49:47

THANK YOU SENATOR FEINSTEIN. SENATOR GRAHAM.

00:49:49
Lindsey Graham Lindsey Graham

THANK YOU MR. SECRETARY. GLAD YOU ARE RECOVERED FROM COVID AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. LET'S JUST PULL BACK A LITTLE BIT AND JUST ASK SOME BASIC QUESTIONS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE BIDEN IM IMMIGRATION POLICIES ARE SUCCESSFUL? ...

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SENATOR, I THINK IMMIGRATION SYSTEM AND REBUILDING A DISMANTLED ONE TAKES TIME, AND WE'RE ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS.

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SO YOU THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AS A NATION?

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I DO.

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OKAY. HOW WOULD YOU GRADE YOURSELF?

00:50:20

SENATOR, I'M A TOUGH GRADER ON MYSELF AND I GIVE MYSELF AN "A" FOR EFFORT IN MISSION AND SUPPORT OF OUR WORK FORCE.

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DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?

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SENATOR, I BELIEVE IN THE POLICIES WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD, AND I CONDEMN A NUMBER OF THE POLICIES THAT WERE PROPAGATED IN THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION.

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SO YOU THINK WE HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THE BORDER NOW THAN WE DID UNDER TRUMP?

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SENATOR, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON IT.

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THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. DO YOU THINK WE HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THE BORDER THAN WE DID IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION?

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I THINK WE HAVE MORE CONTROL CONSISTENT WITH OUR VALUES AS A NATION.

00:50:59

WAS AFGHANISTAN A SUCCESSFUL WITHDRAWAL?

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SENATOR, THE EVACUATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE LED WAS HISTORIC IN EVACUATING SO MANY INDIVIDUALS --

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OF THOSE THAT WERE EVACUATED, HOW MANY WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE?

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SENATOR, IT IS OUR POLICY TO --

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IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION. HOW MANY OF THEM WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE?

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OUT OF AFGHANISTAN?

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YEAH.

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I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IT IS OUR POLICY --

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SO YOU CAN'T TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE TO COME TO AMERICA.

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I'M SORRY, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE PLANE TO COME TO AMERICA, IF I MAY, SENATOR, LET ME EXPLAIN THE PROCESS. WE WORKING WITH OUR ALLIES --

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OKAY, HERE'S A QUESTION. VERY SIMPLE. THOSE THAT GOT ON THE PLANE --

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FOR AMERICA, IT IS OUR POLICY --

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PLEASE LISTEN TO MY QUESTION.

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I APOLOGIZE.

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FOR THOSE WHO GOT ON C-17s AND OTHER PLANES, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE BY AMERICAN OFFICIALS?

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FOR THE UNITED STATES, IT IS OUR POLICY TO VET AND SCREEN 100% OF THEM.

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SO 100% OF THEM THAT GOT ON THE PLANE WERE VETTED. THAT'S YOUR TESTIMONY UNDER OATH?

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IT IS OUR POLICY TO DO SO.

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I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR POLICY IS. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE. WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER? IF YOU DON'T KNOW, JUST SAY YOU DON'T KNOW. ...

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I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE WHO BOARDED THE PLANE THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY SCREENED AND VETTED.

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CAN YOU TELL ME ANY WERE VETTED BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE?

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IF I MAY, SENATOR, ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE BEEN SCREENED AND VETTED.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

LISTEN, I'M NOT TRYING TO TRICK YOU. I'M TRYING TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION. WE'VE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GET ON C-17s AND FLEW OUT OF THE MOST CHAOTIC SITUATION I'VE SEEN SINCE THE FALL OF SAIGON, AND I'M ASKING YOU, BEFORE THEY GOT ON THE PLANE, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE VETTED BY THE UNITED STATES? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PERCENTAGE? ...

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SENATOR, I WOULD PAUSE IT AND I WILL CONFIRM THIS, THAT WELL OVER 99% OF THEM WERE FULLY SCREENED AND VETTED BEFORE THEY BOARDED THE FLIGHT.

00:53:21

OKAY.

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IF, IN FACT, ANY OF THEM --

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WHERE DO YOU GET THAT INFORMATION FROM?

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MAY I, SIR?

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SURE.

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IF, IN FACT, THEY WERE NOT, THEY WERE SCREENED AND VETTED WHILE IN FLIGHT, AND IF ANY DEROGATORY INFORMATION WAS PRODUCED, THEY WERE PLACED IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS AND IN REMOVAL. ...

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00:53:46

YOU DO KNOW YOU'RE UNDER OATH.

00:53:50

YEAH.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ARE YOU TELLING THIS COMMITTEE UNDER OATH THAT 99% OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT ON THESE PLANES IN AFGHANISTAN WERE VET BID OUR VETTED BY OUR GOVERNMENT BEFORE THEY GOT ON THAT PLANE. ...

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00:54:07

SENATOR, IF I MAY, YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT PLANES FROM TRANSIT COUNTRIES, FROM THIRD COUNTRIES --

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I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO GOT ON THE PLANES AT THE KABUL AIRPORT.

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I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

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GOOD. OF THE 1.7 MILLION PEOPLE WHO COME HERE ILLEGALLY, HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN RELEASED INTO THE COUNTRY?

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I CAN BREAK THAT DOWN TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. NEARLY 1 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY, I WOULD SAY, 965,000 HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO EXPULSION UNDER TITLE 42 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE. I BELIEVE -- ...

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00:54:46

HOW MANY LEFT?

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I BELIEVE APPROXIMATELY 40,000 HAVE BEEN REMOVED UNDER OUR IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY --

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WHERE DOES THAT GET US, TO ABOUT 840,000 PEOPLE?

00:55:02
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

NO, NO, APPROXIMATELY 965,000 WERE EXPELLED. APPROXIMATELY 40,000 HAVE BEEN REMOVED. APPROXIMATELY 125,000 UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE CUSTODY AND THE SHELTER OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. THE BALANCE ARE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS -- ...

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SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE? OF THE 1.7 MILLION, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE?

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I WOULD ESTIMATE APPROXIMATELY 375,000 ARE --

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STILL HERE?

00:55:54

YES. THAT IS MY BEST ESTIMATE AND BELIEF.

00:55:58

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IF YOU HAVE AN IMMIGRATION HEARING AND THERE IS A FINAL ORDER OF DEPORTATION, THAT PERSON SHOULD BE REMOVED?

00:56:06

I DO.

00:56:08

WHY IS 1 MILLION PEOPLE STILL HERE AFTER THEY DID A FINAL ORDER OF DEPORTATION?

00:56:16

SENATOR GRAHAM, AS I RESPONDED TO --

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IS THE SYSTEM WORKING?

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THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN, HAS BEEN BROKEN --

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LET ME SAY THIS. IT'S REALLY BROKEN IF A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO LEAVE AND THEY HAVEN'T LEFT. DO YOU BELIEVE THE MEXICO POLICY BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS CRUEL? ...

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00:56:38

AS IT WAS IMPLEMENTED, I DO.

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DO YOU SUPPORT PERSONALLYMANENTLY DOING AWAY WITH THE REMAINING MEXICAN POLICY?

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I DO.

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DO YOU THINK THAT WILL INCREASE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IF WE DO?

00:56:53

I DO NOT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY.

00:56:57

THANK YOU, SENATOR GRAHAM. SENATOR WHITEHOUSE?

00:57:00
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY, IF I COULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO CYBERSECURITY FOR A MOMENT. THERE ARE 57 INSPECTORS GENERAL IN THE FEDERAL SERVICE. ABOUT HALF OF THEM ARE APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE, AND THE OTHER HALF ARE DIRECT AGENCY APPOINTEES. THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF INSPECTOR GENERAL OFFICES TO HAVE CYBERSECURITY EXPERIENCE AT THE LEVELS THAT WE REQUIRE. I'M WONDERING WHAT THE DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY THE CYBERSECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY, CISA, IS DOING TO INCORPORATE WITH THOSE INSPECTORS GENERAL AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OPERATING AT THE KIND OF LEVELS OF EXPERTISE THAT WE NEED TO DEFEND OUR AGENCIES AGAINST CYBERATTACKS. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I KNOW THAT CISA, ITS ACRONYM, CYBERSECURITY AND SECURITY AGENCIES, HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING KNOWN CYBER VULNERABILITIES.

00:58:22
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WHY DON'T WE MOVE THIS OFF LINE AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH A QUESTION FOR THE RECORD OR YOU CAN HAVE A PERSON FROM YOUR AGENCY CALL, BUT I THINK THAT OUR CYBER EXPERTISE IN THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CORPS SHOULD BE CONCENTRATED SOMEPLACE SO ALL THESE INSPECTOR GENERALS HAVE ACCESS TO EXPERTISE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO COVER IT IN 57 DIFFERENT INSPECTOR GENERAL OFFICES. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR CISA TO UNDERTAKE, AND IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH ME ON WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE TO BRING ALL 57 INSPECTORS GENERAL UP TO SPEED ON CYBERSECURITY AND WHETHER SOME MECHANISM IS REQUIRED TO DO THAT, WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR ME IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION FOR THE RECORD? ...

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00:59:06

I MOST CERTAINLY WILL, SENATOR.

00:59:09
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AS A QUESTION FOR THE RECORD. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT SENATOR GRAHAM AND I HAVE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO PLUG SOME OF THE ENFORCEMENT HOLES REGARDING CYBERATTACKS. IT DOES REALLY FOUR BASIC THINGS. ONE IS TO MAKE CERTAIN CYBERCRIMES PREDICATE FOR RICO AND FOR MONEY LAUNDERING. DO YOU REMEMBER FROM YOUR AUSA DAYS HOW IMPORTANT A PREDICATE CAN BE? ...

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00:59:43

I CERTAINLY DO.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THE SECOND THING IT DOES, IT ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO ENJOIN AND SHUT DOWN BOTNETS BEFORE THEY'RE ENGAGED IN FRAUD. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TESTIMONY IN THIS COMMITTEE THAT THERE ACTUALLY IS NO GOOD USE FOR A BOTNET AND TO WAIT AROUND ITUNTIL THEY ACTUALLY GO OFF AND REMAIN IN FRAUD IS A MISTAKE. THE DOJ HAS DONE THIS VERY SUCCESSFULLY. WE MAKE A NEW OFFENSE TO ATTACK AMERICA'S INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CYBERATTACKS. FINALLY, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY GIVE THEIR EXPERTISE TO PROVIDE MEANS OF ACCESS FOR CRIMINALS TO AND THROUGH THE INTERNET TO ATTACK AMERICAN VICTIMS. AND THOSE INTERMEDIARIES WHO ARE JUST SELLING ACCESS, IT'S VERY HARD TO CHARGE, SO WE HAVE AN OFFENSE FOR INTERMEDIARIES WHO KNOWINGLY SELL ACCESS TO CRIMINALS TO ATTACK AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS. WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THAT INTO THE NATIONAL DEFENSE BILL THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDER CONSIDERATION THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IN CONGRESS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO WEIGH IN IN FAVOR OF THAT ONCE YOU'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT WITH YOUR TEAM. WOULD YOU DO THE NECESSARY REVIEW AND GET BACK TO ME AND LET ME KNOW THAT YOU WILL WEIGH IN IN SUPPORT OF THAT? ...

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I MOST CERTAINLY WILL, SENATOR.

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GREAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

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THANK YOU, SENATOR WHITEHOUSE. SENATOR CORNYN.

01:01:18
John Cornyn John Cornyn

SENATOR MAYORKAS, THERE HAVE BEEN ABOUT 56,000 UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN THAT HAVE COME ACROSS THE BORDER SINCE PRESIDENT BIDEN BECAME PRESIDENT. AS YOU KNOW, ONCE THESE CHILDREN ARE PLACED WITH SPONSORS IN THE UNITED STATES, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A 30-DAY FOLLOW-UP TELEPHONE CALL TO DETERMINE THEIR STATUS. YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, AREN'T YOU? ...

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THAT IS WITHIN THE DOMAIN OF THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, SENATOR. I AM NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS ONCE THE CHILD ARRIVES IN THE SHELTER IN CARE OF HHS. ...

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YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CHILDREN ONCE THEY'RE PLACED WITH THE SPONSOR?

01:02:03
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY TO TRANSFER THE UNACCOMPANIED CHILD WITHIN 72 HOURS TO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. I KNOW THAT HHS, OF COURSE, IS RESPONSIBLE TO PLACE THAT CHILD WITH A RESPONSIBLE FAMILY MEMBER OR RELATIVE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE HHS PROCESS. ...

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01:02:30
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO ONCE YOU HAND THEM OFF TO DHS, YOU WASH YOUR HANDS OF THE -- OF THAT BURDEN? WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU TO KNOW THAT JUST THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, IN THE 38-DAY FOLLOW-UP CALLS TO SPONSORS OF UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN, 18% OF THEM DID NOT ANSWER THE TELEPHONE, AND THERE'S BEEN NO SUBSEQUENT FOLLOW-UP ON THESE CHILDREN PLACED WITH SPONSORS, MANY OF WHOM ARE NOT EVEN RELATED TO THESE CHILDREN, AND, FRANKLY, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE BEING FORCED INTO LABOR, BEING TRAFFICKED FOR SEX, BEING ABUSED OR NEGLECTED. WOULD THAT SHOCK YOU TO LEARN THAT AS MANY AS 18% OF THOSE CHILDREN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SIMPLY LOST? ...

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SENATOR, THAT WOULD, INDEED, SURPRISE ME AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY. WE DON'T WASH OUR HANDS OF THE BURDEN WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH -- ...

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01:03:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, THEY DON'T ANSWER THE APPROXIMATE PHONE ONCE THEY'VE BEEN PLACED WITH A SPONSOR, HOW WOULD CHARACTERIZE THE COMPLETE NEGLECT OF THE WELFARE OF THAT CHILD AFTER THEY DON'T ANSWER THE SPOHN -- THENSOR DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHONE 38 DAYS AFTER THE CHILD WAS PLACED WITH A SPONSOR? HOW WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT? ...

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01:04:00

SENATOR, I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE DEDICATION OF THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THOSE CHILDREN AND I DEFER YOUR QUESTION TO THOSE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN. ...

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT THEM, I'M ASKING ABOUT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. APPARENTLY NO ONE IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CARES ABOUT THOSE ROUGHLY 10,000 CHILDREN THAT DON'T RESPOND, THEIR SPONSORS DON'T RESPOND TO FOLLOW-UP TELEPHONE CALLS. SO, FRANKLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT. ...

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01:04:37

SENATOR --

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER TOPIC. RECENTLY YOU ISSUED NEW ENFORCEMENT GUIDELINES SEPTEMBER THE 30th, 2021, AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE NOTION OF PUSH FACTORS AND PULL FACTORS? I'M CONFIDENT YOU ARE. ...

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YES, I AM.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO PUSH FACTORS ARE VIOLENCE, POVERTY, DESIRE FOR A BETTER LIFE, THINGS WE AS HUMAN BEINGS UNDERSTAND. PULL FACTORS ARE INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THE DANGEROUS JOURNEY TO THE UNITED STATES IN THE TENDER MERCIES OF THE DRUG CARTELS AND THE CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS. DO YOU AGREE MAYBE NOT ENTIRELY WITH MY CHARACTERIZATION, BUT THOSE ARE PULL FACTORS? ...

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01:05:28

I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, SENATOR.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH POLICE CHIEF MENDEZ WHO IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S NOMINEE FOR CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION THAT A NON-ENFORCEMENT POLICY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGALIL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A PULL FACTOR, ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT DANGEROUS TRIP? ...

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THAT WOULD BE SPECULATION. WE DON'T HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT POLICY.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'M JUST ASK IF YOU AGREE WITH POLICE CHIEF MAGNESS WHETHER IT WOULD BE A PULL FACTOR. WHEN YOU ISSUE THESE NON-ENFORCEMENT GUIDELINES, YOU SAID THIS. YOU SAID THE FACT THAT AN INDIVIDUAL IS A REMOVABLE, NOVN-CITIZEN IS NOT ALONE TO BE A BASIS FOR AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST THEM. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? ...

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01:06:33

YES, IT IS.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

DID YOU MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS TO SMUGGLE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES OR TO THE MIGRANTS THEMSELVES THAT IF YOU DON'T COMMIT ANY OTHER CRIMES OTHER THAN ILLEGALLY ENTERING THE UNITED STATES, YOU ARE BASICALLY GOING TO SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM AND END UP BEING ABLE TO STAY PERMANENTLY IN THE UNITED STATES? ...

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ABSOLUTELY NOT. THAT'S 100% FALSE, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

01:07:02

100% FALSE?

01:07:04
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

YES. AND THE REASON, ONE REASON, IF I MAY, SENATOR, IS BECAUSE RECENT BORDER CROSSERS ARE A PRIORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT ACTION. SO THERE IS, IN FACT, NO INCENTIVE TO BRING SOMEBODY HERE NOW BECAUSE THAT INDIVIDUAL WILL BE A PRIORITY FOR APPREHENSION AND REMOVAL FROM THE UNITED STATES UNLESS THEY HAVE A BASIS UNDER UNITED STATES LAW TO REMAIN HERE. ...

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01:07:31
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE KNOW, BASICALLY, BASED ON BORDER PATROL PROJECTIONS THAT THIS FIGURE, 1.7 MILLION, DOES INCLUDE 785,000 PEOPLE OR SO WHO SIMPLY EVADE PROTECTION BY BORDER PATROL. WE KNOW THERE ARE ABOUT 350,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE SUBJECT TO A NOTICE TO APPEAR IN COURT OR A NOTICE TO REPORT. BY MY COUNT, THAT'S 735,000 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY MADE THEIR WAY INTO THE UNITED STATES, AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT UNLESS THEY COMMIT SOME OTHER OFFENSE OTHER THAN ILLEGAL ENTRY IN THE UNITED STATES, IT'S NO CONCERN OF YOURS? ...

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01:08:16
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

NO, THAT IS INACCURATE, SENATOR, IF I MAY. THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NOTICES TO APPEAR ARE RECENT BORDER CROSSERS AND ARE PRIORITIES FOR ENFORCEMENT AND REMOVAL FROM THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE REMOVED UNLESS THEY MAKE A CLAIM TO AN IMMIGRATION JUDGE THAT THEY HAVE A BASIS UNDER UNITED STATES LAW TO REMAIN HERE AND THE JUDGE RULES ACCORDINGLY. IF THE JUDGE DENIES THEIR CLAIM, THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES UNDER THE GUIDELINES I ISSUED ON SEPTEMBER 30 OF THIS YEAR. ...

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01:08:52

THANK YOU, SENATOR CORNYN. SENATOR KLOBUCHAR.

01:08:55
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. WELCOME, SECRETARY. IN THE NINE MONTHS SINCE YOUR CONFIRMATION AS SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, YOU FACED A SERIES OF UNPRECEDENTED CHALLENGES FROM ADDRESSING THE THREAT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM AND CYBERCRIME TO MAJOR CHALLENGES ON OUR BORDER DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC TO WELCOMING THOUSANDS OF AFGHAN REFUGEES AND HELPING THEM FIND A HOME. I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE BELIEVES THAT THIS IS AN EASY PORTFOLIO. I REMEMBER PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYING THAT WHEN HE FIRST GOT INTO OFFICE AND WAS ASKED ABOUT A SERIES OF CHALLENGES THAT HE CONFRONTED. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO. I WANT TO ACTUALLY START WITH A POSITIVE TOPIC, AND THAT IS THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR CREW HAVE DONE IN OPENING THE LAND AND AIR ENTRY ACROSS OUR NORTHERN BORDER FOR VACCINATED VISITORS, AN ISSUE I'VE LONG BEEN WORKING ON AS HEAD OF THE U.S.-CANADIAN INTERPARLIAMENTARIAN GROUP IN THE SENATE. I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE CELEBRATING IN MY STATE WHEN WE FINALLY OPENED THE BORDER NOT JUST FOR AIR, GIVEN THAT THE CANADIANS WERE ALREADY OPEN AND YOU COULD FLY FROM MONTREAL TO MIAMI BUT YOU COULDN'T DRIVE FROM THUNDER BAY TO DULUTH, SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD SINCE OPENING THE BORDER LAST WEEK? I HAVE NOT HEARD A LOT ABOUT LINES OR THE LIKE, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT HOW THAT HAS GAUNA CROSS THE BORDER? I'M ONLY AWARE OF MY OWN STATE. ...

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01:10:51
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, SENATOR, WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY IT HAS GONE. WE COMMUNICATED IN ADVANCE OF JULY 8, THE DATE ON WHICH WE LIFTED THE TITLE 19 RESTRICTIONS OF OUR LAND PORTS OF ENTRY THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE READY FOR INCREASED WAIT TIMES, WHICH IS NATURAL WHEN AN OPERATIONAL CHANGE LIKE THIS OCCURS, ESPECIALLY AT PORTS OF ENTRY THAT ARE NOT MODERNIZED, BUT FORTUNATELY, WITH YESTERDAY'S HISTORIC INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY CHANGE THAT, THANKS TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S LEADERSHIP. BUT WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THE LONG LINES THAT WE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED. WE WERE REALLY PREPARED FOR IT, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO COMMUNICATE. ...

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01:11:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE, WHICH ACTUALLY THE CANADIANS HAVE BEEN GOOD TO WORK WITH. THEY'RE OUR NUMBER ONE TRADING PARTNER, AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THEM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE HAVE PARODY BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTRIES NOW ON LAND AND AIR. WE HAVE 30 THAT VACCINATIONS ARE REQUIRED, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PARODY RIGHT NOW ON TESTING. IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE CANADIAN SIDE. THE CANADIAN VISITORS NEED TO GET AN EXPENSIVE TEST IN ADDITION TO THE VACCINATION WHEN THEY RETURN. IT CAN BE $70, IT CAN BE $200, AND OF COURSE THAT'S STOPPING A LOT OF THE MORE WEEKEND VISITORS THAT MIGHT COME TO MINNESOTA, THE DAY VISITORS THAT DRIVE TO DULUTH. I READ A LETTER WITH SENATOR COLLINS, SCHUMER AND CREPO ON THIS TO THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, ASKING THEM TO LOOK AT THIS, AND I URGE YOU TO WORK ON THIS AS WELL. IT'S NOT AN AMERICAN ISSUE, IT'S ON THE CANADIAN SIDE, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE AMBASSADOR, BUT IT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE CROSS-BORDER TRAFFIC. WE WANT PARODY. ...

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01:12:44

I WILL MOST CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT, SENATOR.

01:12:46
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO IDENTIFY THEM AND TRANSPORT AFGHAN REFUGEES INTO THE U.S. SO MANY OF THESE REFUGEES, AS YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH US, SERVED OUR COUNTRY. OUR STATE HAS WELCOMED THESE REFUGEES WITH OPEN ARMS, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SENATOR COONS ON LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE A PATHWAY TO PERMANENT LEGAL STATUS FOR AFGHAN REFUGEES WHO WERE EVACUATED. DO YOU BELIEVE AFGHAN REFUGEES WHO WERE HERE ON HUMANITARIAN STATUS SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR PERMANENT LEGAL STATUS? ...

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01:13:20

YES, I DO, SENATOR, AND I DO HOPE THAT LEGISLATION PASSES.

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU. EARLIER THIS MONTH I INTRODUCED A BILL WITH SENATORS CORNYN, COONS AND MURKOWSKI. I ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR TO STUDY THE BARRIERS THAT IMMIGRANTS WITH ADVANCED TRAINING, INCLUDING REFUGEES FROM AFGHANISTAN, BUT NOT ONLY REFUGEES IN AFGHANISTAN FACE FINDING EMPLOYMENT IN THE U.S., WHICH IS CRITICAL WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT 17 OF OUR NATIONS WERE STARTED ACROSS THE BORDER. PEOPLE COME HERE AND THEY START COMPANIES AND THEY DO REALLY WELL AND THEY EMPLOY TONS OF PEOPLE. WE ALSO KNOW IN MY STATES, ESPECIALLY IN THE TOURIST INDUSTRIES IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA AS WELL AS IN THE AG INDUSTRIES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKERS RIGHT NOW, SOMETHING SENATOR TILLIS, I KNOW, CARES A LOT ABOUT, WHICH LEADS US TO LOOK AT A PATH FOR CITIZENSHIP, OR WHAT IS CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW IN A BILL IN FRONT OF US, A WORK PERMIT SITUATION. HOW CAN CONGRESS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT AMERICA CAN BENEFIT FROM TALENT AND EXPERTISE OF IMMIGRANTS? ...

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01:14:31
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EXPRESSION. IT'S A TREMENDOUS VALUE AND CONTRIBUTION THAT IMMIGRANTS MAKE TO OUR NATION'S WELL-BEING. AS ARTICULATED AT THE OUTSET, WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN, AND IT IS LONG PAST TIME THAT WE PASS LEGISLATION TO FIX IT. ...

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01:15:00
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION HERE. ALONG WITH SENATOR BLUNT, I CO-CHAIR THE CONGRESSIONAL COALITION ON ADOPTION CAUCUS. MANY OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE ARE MEMBERS. IT'S VERY BIPARTISAN. OVER IN THE HOUSE IT IS ADAM SMITH AND REPRESENTATIVE HOPE THAT CHAIR THE COMMISSION. THAT'S WHY WE'VE INTRODUCED THE CITIZENSHIP ACT, TO MAKE CITIZENSHIP AUTOMATIC FOR THOSE WHO WERE LEGALLY ADOPTED AS KIDS. ADOPTIONS HAVE FALLEN BY 93%. THE PANDEMIC PART OF IT IS THINGS THAT RUSSIA DID, THINGS THAT CHINA DID, BUT THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF KIDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL THAT NEED A LOVING FAMILY, AND THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF AMERICANS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT KIDS. WE ARE PROUD THAT THE DOMESTIC NUMBERS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE UP DURING THE LAST FEW ADMINISTRATIONS WITH FOSTER KIDS GETTING ADOPTED. THAT'S ALL GOOD. BUT INTERNATIONAL ADOPTIONS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN A PART OF THE WAY THAT OUR COUNTRY IS CONNECTED TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. NOT TO MENTION THE HUMANITARIAN ISSUES. WILL YOU WORK WITH ME TO IDENTIFY BARRIERS AND FIND WAYS TO EASE THIS CITIZENSHIP PROCESS FOR FORMER BORDER ADOPTEES, AND ALSO IN GENERAL, WEERZAS WE'RE TALKING TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT CENTER, BLUNT AND I, ABOUT THIS ISSUE TO GET BACK TO THE SITUATION WHERE WE WERE WELCOMING ADOPTIVE KIDS INTO OUR COUNTRY? ...

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01:16:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I WOULD BE PRIVILEGED TO DO SO. I WAS PRIVILEGED TO WORK WITH THEN-SENATOR LANDRIEU ON ADOPTIONS AS WELL AS SENATOR GRASSLEY ON THAT VALIANT EFFORT. ...

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01:16:57

THANK YOU, SECRETARY.

01:16:58

MR. LEE?

01:16:59

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. YOU SAID YOU GAVE YOURSELF AN "A" FOR EFFORT ON ISSUES WITH IMMIGRATION. YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 17,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, IS THAT RIGHT? ...

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01:17:13

I'M SORRY, WE HAVE ABOUT 16,000, 17,000 ON THE BORDER.

01:17:17
Mike Lee Mike Lee

ON THE BORDER, ON THE BORDER. LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE FOR A MINUTE. 16,000, 17,000 ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER. WHAT HAPPENS, AND THIS TIES BACK TO YOUR DESIRE TO GIVE YOURSELF AN "A" FOR EFFORT ON DEALING WITH WORK FORCE ISSUES, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'VE GOT POTENTIALLY THOUSANDS OF THOSE? THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE PERCENTAGE THAT MIGHT SOON BECOME INELIGIBLE TO WORK BASED ON THEIR VACCINATION STATUS. DOES THAT HURT OR HELP OR OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF THE BORDER? ...

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01:17:50

SENATOR, I HOPE THAT DOESN'T PROVE TO BE THE CASE. WE ARE SEEING A TREMENDOUS UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF BORDER PATROL AGENTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER WHO ARE, INDEED, RECEIVING THEIR VACCINATIONS. I HOPE THAT DOES NOT MATERIALIZE. ...

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01:18:04

YES, YOU HOPE, BUT DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR MAINTAINING THIS? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SHARE THAT PLAN WITH US IN WRITING IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS?

01:18:12

I WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE PLEASED TO DO SO.

01:18:15
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I APPRECIATE THAT. ON THE TOPIC OF WORK FORCE RELATIONS IN WHICH YOU GIVE YOURSELF AN "A" FOR EFFORT, WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE YOUR BORDER PATROL AGENTS RECENTLY BEING ACCUSED BY SOME FOLKS IN THE MEDIA OF WHIPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, WHEN, IN FACT, THEY WERE NOT? WHY ON EARTH DID YOU NOT DEFEND THEM? HAS NO ONE IN YOUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT EVER BECOME AWARE OF HOW ONE USES SPLIT RANGE WHEN RIDING A HORSE? ...

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01:18:47
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, LET ME SAY TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, I PUT 100% INTO MY WORK AND I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD TO DO SO. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I STAND WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN IN MY DEPARTMENT THROUGH AND THROUGH. I WILL NOT PREJUDGE FACTS BEFORE -- ...

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01:19:04

DID YOU DEFEND THEM WHEN THEY WERE BEING ATTACKED FOR WHIPPING PEOPLE, WHICH THEY WERE NOT?

01:19:08

SENATOR, WHAT I SAID, QUITE CLEARLY, IS THAT THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION WILL DETERMINE THE FACTS, AND THOSE FACTS WILL DRIVE THE OUTCOME. NOTHING LESS AND NOTHING MORE. ...

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01:19:21
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

YOUR RESPONSE IN YOUR FAILURE TO DEFEND THEM THEN AND NOW IS NOTHING SHORT OF MORALE CRUSHING. IF YOU WANT TO OBTAIN OR ATTAIN NATIONAL CONTROL OF THE BORDER, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET THERE. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY'S WEBSITE TO A SIGNIFICANT DEGREE INVOLVES A STATEMENT THAT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT STATES AS FOLLOWS, QUOTE, MANAGING THE FLOW OF PEOPLE AND GOOD INTO THE UNITED STATES IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. ILLEGAL ALIENS COMPROMISES SECURITY OF OUR NATION BY ILLEGALLY ENTERING THE UNITED STATES OR OVERSTAYING THEIR AUTHORIZED PERIOD OF ADMISSION, CLOSED QUOTE. HOW IS THE DEPARTMENT DOING IN THAT MISSION TO OBTAIN THAT OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF THE BORDER? ...

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01:20:10
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, WE ARE ENFORCING THE LAWS THAT CONGRESS PASSED. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAWS, IF I MAY. THERE ARE LAWS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THERE ARE LAWS OF HUMANITARIAN RELIEF. INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE A CLAIM FOR ASYLUM WHO ARE ENCOUNTERED UPON ILLEGAL CROSSING AT THE BORDER ARE PLACED INTO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS, ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR CLAIM FOR ASYLUM BEFORE AN IMMIGRATION JUDGE, AND IF THEIR CLAIM IS SUCCESSFUL UNDER THE LAW, THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY HERE. IF THEIR CLAIM IS UNSUCCESSFUL, THEN THEY ARE REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES. ...

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01:20:42
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO BETWEEN JANUARY 1st ANDSEPTEMBER 30th OF THIS YEAR, THE TIME PERIOD IN WHICH PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, THERE HAVE BEEN ABOUT 1.7 MILLION ILLEGAL CROSSERS THAT HAVE BEEN ENCOUNTERED AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. THIS DOESN'T SUGGEST TO ME OPERATION CONTROL. THIS DOES SUGGEST TO ME A PULL FACTOR THAT SENATOR CORNYN MENTIONED, ACCELERATING INTO THE TURN. IT ALSO WAS REFLECTED IN THE BUILD BACK BETTER PLAN WITH FULL SUPPORT OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION WHICH PAVES A PATH FOR GRANTING AMNESTY, TURNING ON MORE OF THOSE PULL FACTORS. BY THE WAY, HOW MANY KNOWN GOT-AWAYS HAVE CROSSED OUR SOUTHERN BORDER IN 2021? ...

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01:21:37
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER TO YOU. I WILL CERTAINLY CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU OR YOUR TEAM EXPEDITIOUSLY. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THE APPROXIMATELY 962,000 PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER THE BORDER OPEN. I DON'T THINK THE 40,000 OR SO INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES WOULD CONSIDER THE BORDER OPEN. ...

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01:22:09
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S GREAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE GREAT WORK BEING DONE BY THE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. OPERATIONAL CONTROL ISN'T DEEMED IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STOPPED. OPERATIONAL CONTROL HAS TO BE MEASURED BY THOSE WHO ARE COMING IN. RIGHT NOW AT A BREAKNECK, RECORD-BREAKING PACE UNLAWFULLY. HERE'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. DOES AMERICA HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN EVERY PERSON, ILL-INTENTIONED OR NOT, WHO WANTS TO COME TO AMERICA? WHAT'S THE REAL LIMITING PRINCIPLE THERE? BECAUSE LETTING 2 MILLION PEOPLE OR SO IN ACROSS THE BORDER IS ENSURING THAT YOUR LEGISLATION IS BACKING THEM, ALLOWING THEM TO COME HERE UNLAWFULLY. IT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH THAT MINDSET THAT IT'S AN UNMITIGATED GOOD. ...

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01:23:14
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

IF I MAY, SENATOR, THIS WILL REQUIRE FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT LET ME MAKE A FEW IMPORTANT POINTS, IF I MAY. FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS A MISPERCEPTION THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ENCOUNTERED AT THE BORDER AND WHO ARE NOT IMMEDIATELY EXPELLED UNDER THE TITLE 42 AUTHORITY OR WHO ARE NOT SUBJECT TO EXPEDITED REMOVAL AND ACCELERATED REMOVAL PROCESS ARE JUST LEDT INTO THE UNITED STATES AND LEFT ALONE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. ...

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01:23:46
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

HANG ON A MINUTE, HANG ON A MINUTE. SOME OF THEM ARE. LIKE MEDINA LOA, WHO IS A 24-YEAR-OLD HONDURAN MAN WHO WAS RECENTLY APPREHENDED CROSSING THE BORDER. HE SAID HE WAS A 17-YEAR-OLD. HE WAS TAKEN IN BY A FAMILY AND LATER THAT DAY, HE STABBED THE FATHER TO DEATH. HE WAS A 24-YEAR-OLD, NOT A 17-YEAR-OLD AS HE CLAIMED. THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE HIM CROSSING, AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE, WITH THE APPROVAL, WITH THE FACILITATION IN SOME CASES OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. ...

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01:24:23

THAT IS INACCURATE. I AM AWARE OF THE CASE. THAT INDIVIDUAL IS BEING PROSECUTED. THERE IS AN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT DETAINER ON THAT INDIVIDUAL.

01:24:34

DID YOUR DEPARTMENT, DID THEY OR DID THEY NOT ALLOW HIM IN?

01:24:40

I WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT ON THE DETAILS. I'M SURE YOU WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT ON THE DETAILS.

01:24:45
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

IF I MAY, SENATOR, THERE IS A CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST THAT INDIVIDUAL PENDING. WHETHER OR NOT THAT INDIVIDUAL COMMITTED FRAUD AND DECEIVED OUR PERSONNEL IS A QUESTION THAT MAY BE RELEVANT TO THE ONGOING CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, AND SO IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO COMMENT ON A PENDING CRIMINAL MATTER AT THIS TIME. ...

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01:25:04

WHAT'S INAPPROPRIATE IS FOR YOUR CONTINUING TO LEAVE THESE BORDERS OPEN WHILE PUSHING THE PULL FACTORS. THAT'S WRONG AND IT'S HARMING THE SECURITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. ...

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01:25:17

SENATOR COONS?

01:25:19
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN DURBIN, RANKING MEMBER GRASSLEY, AND THANK YOU, SECRETARY MAYORKAS, FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS TODAY AND YOUR LEADERSHIP WHICH IS SUCH A BROAD AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FACES AN ENORMOUS RANGE OF CHALLENGES FROM CYBERSECURITY, TO IMMIGRATION, TO CLIMATE CHANGE. LET ME FOCUS ON A FEW. WHAT I MOST APPRECIATE ON THE VERY CHALLENGING ISSUES OF IMMIGRATION ARE THE RECOGNITION THAT SMART AND EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MUST ALWAYS BE, AND CAN BE, CONSISTENT WITH OUR VALUES WITH TREATING PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY HUMANELY, EVEN AS YOU ARE TRYING TO ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS AND ENSURE BORDER SECURITY. LET'S START WITH THE QUESTION OF PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION, AN APPROACH THAT EFFECTIVELY MAKES ANY UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT A PRIORITY IS ACTUALLY MAKING NO ONE A PRIORITY. YOU'RE PROPOSING PRIORITIZATION USING PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION TO STRIKE PRIORITIES. WHY IS THAT NEEDED? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY AN APPROACH OF HAVING PRIORITIES IS ACTUALLY MORE HUMANE AND MORE EFFECTIVE? ...

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01:26:33
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. THERE ARE TWO REASONS, AND LET ME FIRST, AT THE OUTSET, SAY THAT THE CONCEPT OF PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION IS GUIDED FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR YEARS AND YEARS. WHEN I WAS AN ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, THAT PRINCIPLE GUIDED US UNDER THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S MANUAL. THERE ARE TWO REASONS IN THE CONTEXT OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, AND IF WE DO NOT ESTABLISH PRIORITIES, WE WILL NOT SECURE THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE 82 MILLION UNLAWFUL INDIVIDUALS IN THE UNITED STATES, MANY OF WHOM HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. ONE EXAMPLE, JUST ONE EXAMPLE, ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO THE BACK-BREAKING WORK OF PICKING FOOD THAT ARRIVES ON OUR TABLE EVERY DAY. SO IT IS NOT ONLY A MATTER OF ALLOCATING RESOURCES SMARTLY AND EFFECTIVELY, BUT IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF JUSTICE. ...

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01:27:49
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

LET ME ASK AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, IF I MIGHT, ABOUT OUR ROLE IN CONGRESS IN CONTRIBUTING TO RESOLVING OUR BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. THERE IS AREAS WHERE OUR INTEREST IN STRONG BORDER MANAGEMENT AND INHUMANE TREATMENT CAN AND SHOULD ALIGN. CREATING LAWFUL PORTS OF ENTRY WOULD HELP PROTECT THE SAFETY OF MIGRANTS. SOME BACKLOG WILL GIVE MIGRANTS SOME STABILITY INSTEAD OF UNHEALTHY INCENTIVES. YOU'VE TAKEN A RANGE OF ISSUES, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING THE REFUGEE PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES A SAFE PATHWAY FOR REFUGEES IN THE UNITED STATES. GETTING A NUMBER OF COUNTRIES IN CREATING LEGAL MIGRATION. CREATING A DEDICATED DOCKET. I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS WE CAN AND SHOULD DO TO BUILD A FAIR, SAFE AND HUMANE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RULE OF LAW, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE PATIENCE TO INVEST IN THE LONG TERM AND WILLINGNESS TO MAKE SOME FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES. HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN SUPPORT YOU THROUGH LEGISLATION? ...

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01:29:02
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, YOU DESCRIBED A NUMBER OF EFFORTS WE HAVE UNDERWAY PROMULGATING THEM THROUGH POLICY AS WELL AS THROUGH REGULATION. THE ENDURING SOLUTION IS IMMIGRATION LEGISLATION. TO FIX A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, TO FIX EVERY ASPECT OF OUR BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. SO THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST, AS SENATOR KLOBUCHAR SAID, SO MANY AMERICANS CAN BRING PROSPERITY WITH AMERICAN JOBS WHO BRING THEIR TALENT TO THIS COUNTRY ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMAIN HERE AND MAKE THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS. IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD IN ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF FAMILY UNITY, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND HUMANITARIAN RELIEF. THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE TREMENDOUS. THEY HAVE EXISTED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND I DO HOPE CONGRESS PROMULGATES LEGISLATION FOR THAT ENDURG ENDURING SOLUTION. ...

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01:30:11
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

AT THE OUTSET OF THIS HEARING, CHAIRMAN DURBIN COMMENTED THAT HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE SITUATION AT THE BORDER BUT WE IN CONGRESS MUST ACT. SIMPLY GRANDSTANDING AND FINGER POINTING ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN AN ENDURING PROBLEM OVER THE LAST DECADE. I HAVE SERVED HERE ACROSS THREE ADMINISTRATIONS. LET ME MOVE TO THE SITUATION OF OUR AFGHAN ALLIES WHICH SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE TO WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AFGHANS WHO SERVED ALONGSIDE OF US. IN THE RECENT LEGISLATION WE PASSED WAS TO GIVE AFGHANS RESETTLEMENT OF REFUGEES. I RECENTLY LED THE INVESTIGATION TO VISIT QATAR AND GERMANY TO VISIT AFGHAN REFUGEES AND TO THANK AMERICAN SERVICEMEMBERS, DIPLOMATS AND OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS WHO HAVE HELPED MAKE THIS HAPPEN. MY OWN HOME CHURCH IS HELPING ALONGSIDE JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES TO WELCOME ONE OF THE FIRST AFGHAN REFUGEE FAMILIES INTO DELAWARE, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF IMPORTANT WORK TO DO ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY. THIS CAN AND SHOULD BE BIPARTISAN. PRESIDENT BIDEN ACTUALLY HAS BEFORE HIM THIS WEEK FOR SIGNATURE A BILL I LED WITH SENATOR CORNYN THAT WOULD BETTER PROTECT FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EMPLOYEES OVERSEAS, INCLUDING OUR AFGHAN ALLIES. AS SENATOR KLOBUCHAR MENTIONED, I THINK THIS IS AN AREA THAT WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, WE CAN MAKE GREAT PROGRESS. CAN YOU BRIEFLY SAY MORE ABOUT HOW CONGRESS, THROUGH LEGISLATION, CAN BOLSTER YOUR EFFORTS TO SUPPORT AFGHANS? ...

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01:31:43
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR COONS, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT CONGRESS ALREADY HAS PROVIDED THAT YOU REFERENCE, AND I SHOULD SAY OPERATION ALLIES WELCOME IS SOMETHING THAT HAS RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM BOTH PARTIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WE HOPE THAT FURTHER LEGISLATION COULD, INDEED, BE PASSED THAT PROVIDES FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS A PATH TO STATUS IN THE UNITED STATES. ...

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01:32:12
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE SERVICE OF JACK MARQUEL, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF DELAWARE, WHO IS HELPING TO LEAD THE COORDINATION. I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF DHS IN HELPING FACILITATE THIS CRITICAL EFFORT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ...

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01:32:30

SENATOR CRUZ?

01:32:32

MR. MAYORKAS, YOU TESTIFIED SEVERAL TIMES THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS, QUOTE, FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN. TRUE OR FALSE, UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP WE SAW THE LOWEST ILLEGAL RATE OF IMMIGRATION IN 45 YEARS? ...

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01:32:44

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN 45 YEARS, BUT WE CERTAINLY SAW, IN 2020, A LOW LEVEL OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. 2019 --

01:32:53

TRUE OR FALSE, SECRETARY MAYORKAS. THIS YEAR, UNDER JOE BIDEN, WE'VE SEEN THE HIGHEST RATE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN 61 YEARS.

01:33:01

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A HISTORIC HIGH, SENATOR.

01:33:06

SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S BROKEN, BUT YOU BROKE IT. LET ME ASK YOU, IN THE CALENDAR YEAR 2021, HOW MANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE CROSSED ILLEGALLY INTO THE UNITED STATES? ...

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01:33:18

I BELIEVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ENCOUNTERS HAS BEEN REFERENCED IN THIS HEARING EARLIER AND IT'S JUST UNDER 1.7 MILLION.

01:33:25

BUT THERE'S TWO MONTHS REMAINING? IS IT CORRECT YOU PROJECT OVER 2 MILLION IMMIGRANTS IN CALENDAR YEAR 2021?

01:33:36

I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, SENATOR, AND IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN A DROP --

01:33:40

HOW MANY CHILDREN WILL HAVE CROSSED ILLEGALLY IN 2021?

01:33:44

I BELIEVE THAT THUS FAR THROUGH OCTOBER 31st, SENATOR, APPROXIMATELY 125,000 UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE SHELTER IN CARE OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. ...

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01:33:57

NOW, YOU TOLD ANOTHER SENATOR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GOT-AWAYS THERE HAVE BEEN?

01:34:03

I WOULD HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK, SENATOR, WITH THAT INFORMATION.

01:34:05

SO THAT WASN'T A FACT THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS RELEVANT TO THIS HEARING?

01:34:09

OH, IT IS ABSOLUTELY RELEVANT. I UNDERSTAND WHY THE QUESTION IS POSED. IT'S A FACT OF GREAT --

01:34:14

BUT YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER IT. HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW MANY DEATHS? HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE DIED CROSSING ILLEGALLY INTO THE UNITED STATES UNDER JOE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION? ...

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01:34:25

I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

01:34:26

SO THE DEATHS, YOU DIDN'T PREPARE THAT DATA, EITHER. OKAY, HOW ABOUT THIS. HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THE BIDEN CAGES IN CALENDAR YEAR 2021?

01:34:37

SENATOR, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR USE OF THE TERM "CAGES."

01:34:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

FINE. YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH IT. HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TO THE BIDEN CAGES? I'VE BEEN TO THE BIDEN CAGES, I'VE SEEN THE BIDEN CAGES. HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THE CAGES BUILT TO HOLD KIDS? ...

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01:34:58

SENATOR, I CAN PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING FIGURE. LET ME SAY THAT WHEN A CHILD --

01:35:03

IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION. HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THOSE CAGES?

01:35:07

I RESPECTFULLY AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM "CAGES" AND TO WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING. THERE ARE --

01:35:13
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ENCLOSURES IN WHICH THEY ARE LOCKED IN, IN WHICH I TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS AND PUT THEM OUT BECAUSE YOU BLOCKED THE PRESS AND DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE BIDEN CAGES. THE SECURE FACILITIES IN WHICH THEY ARE LOCKED DOWN IN DONNA. THOSE FACILITIES, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN IN THEM? ...

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01:35:30

SENATOR, THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF FACILITIES --

01:35:33

THE DONNA TENT CITY, LET'S TAKE THE DONNA FACILITY. HOW MANY CHILDREN WERE IN THERE?

01:35:40

NAETSTHAT'S A SOFT-SIDED FACILITY --

01:35:43

ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THAT FACILITY?

01:35:48

I WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE PRECISE NUMBER.

01:35:51

BY THE WAY, HERE'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BIDEN CAGES.

01:35:55

SENATOR, THAT IS PRECISELY WHY I ARTICULATED --

01:35:58

CHILDREN SLEEPING ON FLOORS, CRUSHED IN ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. WHEN I TOOK THIS PICTURE, THE COVID RATE WAS OVER 10%. HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THESE...

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01:36:10

THAT IS PRECISELY WHY I STATED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR THAT A BORDER PATROL STATION IS NO PLACE FOR A CHILD, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO --

01:36:20

SECRETARY MAYORKAS, YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IN THE PAST YEAR, HAS JOE BIDEN BEEN DOWN TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE BIDEN CAGES? ...

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01:36:29

SENATOR, I WILL, AGAIN --

01:36:30

HAS JOE BIDEN BEEN DOWN TO SEE THIS FACILITY. YES OR NO?

01:36:35

THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT BEEN DOWN --

01:36:37

OKAY, NO. HAS KAMALA HARRIS BEEN DOWN TO SEE THE BIDEN CAGES, THIS FACILITY, YES OR NO?

01:36:42

THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS AT THE BORDER --

01:36:44

HAS SHE BEEN DOWN TO SEE THIS FACILITY? I KNOW SHE WENT TO EL PASO. HAS SHE SEEN THE BIDEN CAGES?

01:36:53

THEY ARE NOT CAGES.

01:36:55

WHAT ARE THESE WALLS? HAS KAMALA HARRIS SEEN THEM, YES OR NO?

01:36:59

SENATOR, THE --

01:37:00

IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION, YES OR NO. WE DON'T NEED A PARAGRAPH. YES OR NO. HAS KAMALA HARRIS BEEN DOWN TO SEE THESE DETENTION FACILITIES?

01:37:08

SHE HAS NOT BEEN DOWN --

01:37:10

HAS ANY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR ON THIS COMMITTEE BEEN DOWN TO SEE THE BIDEN CAGES?

01:37:14

I WILL ONCE AGAIN DISAGREE WITH YOUR USE OF TERMINOLOGY.

01:37:19

THESE FACILITIES, HAS ANY DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE GIVEN A DAMN ENOUGH TO SEE THE CHILDREN BEING LOCKED UP BY JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS BECAUSE OF YOUR FAILED IMMIGRATION POLICIES? ...

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01:37:28

SENATOR, I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.

01:37:33

YOU DON'T KNOW IF ANY DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE?

01:37:36

OH, I BELIEVE -- DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DOWN --

01:37:39

TO SEE THIS FACILITY, YES OR NO?

01:37:42

WHETHER THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE, I DO NOT KNOW.

01:37:45

LET ME ASK YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION, THEN.

01:37:49

I WANT TO SAY --

01:37:50

HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BEING TRAFFICKED INTO THIS COUNTRY IN 2021?

01:37:55

SENATOR, I HAVE NO ABILITY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY --

01:37:59

SO YOU DIDN'T TRY TO FIND OUT?

01:38:02

HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN MEXICO ALONG THE MIGRATORY --

01:38:06

HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULT BID TRAFFICED BY TRAFFICKERS OR OTHER PEOPLE WHEN THEY WERE COMING IN ILLEGAL SNL.

01:38:16

I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

01:38:18

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, EITHER. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE YOU RELEASED INTO THE UNITED STATES WHO WERE COVID POSITIVE?

01:38:27

SENATOR, IT IS OUR POLICY TO TEST INDIVIDUALS --

01:38:30

I DIDN'T ASK YOUR POLICY. HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE YOU RELEASED WHO WERE COVID POSITIVE?

01:38:36

LET ME JUST SAY WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED, THEY ARE PLACED IN IMMIGRATION --

01:38:40

HOW MANY HAVE YOU RELEASED THAT WERE COVID POSITIVE?

01:38:43

I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU.

01:38:45

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, EITHER. HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE YOU RELEASED TO CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS?

01:38:51

WHO HAVE CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS IN MEXICO?

01:38:55

CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS IN WHATEVER JURISDICTION.

01:38:57

THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY POSE A PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT --

01:39:01

HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WITH CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS HAVE YOU RELEASED?

01:39:04

SENATOR, I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER.

01:39:06

LET'S SPECIFY IT MORE NARROWLY. HOW MANY MURDERERS HAVE YOU RELEASED?

01:39:10

I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY MURDERERS WHO WERE --

01:39:13

HOW MANY RAPISTS HAVE YOU RELEASED?

01:39:16

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY RAPISTS --

01:39:18

HOW MANY CHILD MOLESTERS HAVE YOU RELEASED?

01:39:21

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CHILD MOLESTERS WE HAVE RELEASED INTO THE UNITED STATES, AND I SHOULD SAY --

01:39:27
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENIOR CUSTOMS AND BOARDRDER LEADERSHIP HAS TOLD ME YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS SLOWLY TO COMPLY WITH THE RETURN TO MEXICO POLICY. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE JUDGE IF THE JUDGE WAS ASKING WHY YOU SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN CONTEMPT AND INCARCERATED FOR DEFYING A FEDERAL COURT ORDER? ...

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01:39:46

IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THE COURT'S ORDER IN GOOD FAITH. WE ARE WORKING WITH MEXICO. IT REQUIRES A BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP AND AN AGREEMENT, AND I SHOULD ALSO ADD -- ...

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01:40:00

HAVE YOU OR ANYONE ON YOUR STAFF REQUESTED MEXICO TO GO BACK TO THIS AGREEMENT?

01:40:06
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

NO. I SHOULD ALSO INDICATE TO YOU, SENATOR, THAT IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, I.C.E., UNDER THE SEX OFFENDERS OPERATION KNOWN AS SOAR APPREHENDED 495 INDIVIDUALS BETWEEN JUNE 4th AND SEPTEMBER 1st WHO COMMITTED SEX OFFENSES AND WERE VERY FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY. ...

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01:40:26

THANK YOU, SENATOR CRUZ. SENATOR HIRONO?

01:40:29
Mazie Hirono Mazie Hirono

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT, AND THIS BROKEN SYSTEM CERTAINLY DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. THE FACT IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS HANDED A SYSTEM DECIMATED BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. SO WORKING TOWARD A LONG-TERM SOLUTION WILL TAKE TIME, AND CERTAINLY CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE CONFIDENCE IN IMMIGRATION REFORM AS WE TRIED TO DO IN A BIPARTISAN WAY IN 2013. SECRETARY MAYORKAS, YOU WERE ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT VETTING AFGHAN EVACUEES. TO CLARIFY, DID AFGHAN EVACUEES FLY DIRECTLY FROM AFGHANISTAN TO THE U.S., AND WERE THEY SCREENED OR VETTED BEFORE THEY CAME TO THE U.S.? ...

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01:41:20
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, SENATOR. I WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER HE WAS REFERRING TO AFGHAN STONISTAN OR THIRD COUNTRIES, OR FLIGHTS FROM THOSE THIRD COUNTRIES ULTIMATELY TO THE UNITED STATES. THE OPERATION WE EXECUTED WAS WORKING WITH OUR ALLIES, WE DEVELOPED THIRD COUNTRIES THAT SERVED AS TRANSIT POINTS WHERE AFGHAN NATIONALS ULTIMATELY ARRIVED TO THE UNITED STATES WOULD BE SCREENED AND VETTED. WE DEPLOYED PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT TO CONDUCT THAT SCREENING AND VETTING. THE SCREENING AND VETTING REQUIRES NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IN STATE WORKING WITH OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ACROSS THE FEDERAL ENTERPRISE. WE ACQUIRE BIOGRAPHIC AND BIOMETRIC INFORMATION, AND IT IS OUR POLICY TO VET ALL INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE TRANSIT COUNTRIES BEFORE THEY BOARD A FLIGHT FOR THE UNITED STATES. I SHOULD ALSO ADD, IF I MAY, SENATOR, FORGIVE ME, THAT THE VETTING IS RECURRENT. IT IS ONGOING. AND AS WE OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE MILITARY FACILITIES, WHAT WE CALL THE SAFE HAVENS WHERE THE AFGHAN NATIONALS RESIDE UNTIL THEY ARE RESETTLED, THEY FILL OUT PAPERWORK. WE INGEST THE INFORMATION THAT THEY COMPLETE IN THAT PAPERWORK INTO OUR SCREENING AND VETTING PROCESS, SO IT IS RECURRENT. IT IS ONGOING. ...

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01:42:50
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU. BEFORE THESE EVACUEES CAN COME TO OUR COUNTRY, THERE IS QUITE THE VETTING PROCESS. LY -- YOU HAD STATED PREVIOUSLY, QUOTE, THAT YOU FIND IT ABHORRENT THAT WE REMOVE A CHILD WHO DOES NOT HAVE COUNSEL BY THEIR SIDE, QUOTE, WHEN A CHILD IS UNREPRESENTED, IT BECOMES A MORE DIFFICULT CASE AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS FOR TO DO. THE RECENT DATA FROM OUR IMMIGRATION COURTS SHOW THAT FROM FISCAL YEAR 2018 TO THE FIRST HALF OF FISCAL YEAR 2021, UNREPRESENTED UNREPRESENTED, UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN WERE 97 TIMES LESS LIKELY TO OBTAIN LEGAL RELIEF IN IMMIGRATION COURT THAN THEIR UNREPRESENTED COUNTERPARTS. SO CLEARLY WHEN A CHILD HAS LEGAL REPRESENTATION, THAT IS BETTER FOR ALL CONCERNED. CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHY LEGAL REPRESENTATION OF CHILDREN IN IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS IS SO ESSENTIAL? ...

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01:43:50
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION. IMMIGRATION LAWS OR EXTRAORDINARILY COMPLEX, THE PROCEEDINGS ARE VERY COMPLEX AND WE CANNOT EXPECT A YOUNG CHILD TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO NAVIGATE A LEGAL SYSTEM, TO IDENTIFY THE RIGHTS THAT THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE UNDER UNITED STATES LAW AND VINDICATE THOSE RIGHTS. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY IT IS SO DIFFICULT FOR A GOVERNMENT ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE IN ACHIEVING JUSTICE THAT THE RIGHTS OF A CHILD ARE, INDEED, PRESENTED TO A COURT. ...

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01:44:29
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'LL NEVER FORGET, CHAIRMAN, TALKING ABOUT GOING TO AN IMMIGRATION COURT WHICH I HAVE ALSO VISITED, NOT THE SAME COURT, SEEING A TINY CHILD BEING HOISTED UP WITHOUT ANY REPRESENTATION AND FACING THE IMMIGRATION COURT WHICH IS INHUMANE. THIS IS WHY I HAVE JUST INTRODUCED INFORMATION TO HELP CHALLENGES OF THE BORDER BY ENSURING COUNSEL FOR ALL UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN IN IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN YOUCONTINUE TO VIEW THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE CHILDREN HAVING LEGAL REPRESENTATION. A LOT IS BEING SAID ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ENCOUNTERS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. WHAT IS NOT BEING SAID IS THAT MOST SINGLE ADULTS CONTINUE TO BE EXPELLED AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER USING TITLE 42 AUTHORITY BEFORE THEY CAN CLAIM ASYLUM. THE TITLE 42 EXPULSIONS BASICALLY ENCOURAGES MIGRANTS TO TRY CROSSING THE BORDER AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE. THIS RECIDIVISM CAUSES IMMIGRANTS TO BE REPEATEDLY COUNTED AND DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A CORRECT NUMBER. CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY REPEAT CROSSINGS THERE ARE? ...

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01:45:56
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, THE NUMBER OF RE RECIDIVISTS ARE NOT 170,000 INDIVIDUALS. THERE ARE MULTIPLE ENCOUNTERS OF A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. WE HAVE TAKEN MEASURES TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RECIDIVISM, FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN MEXICO, WE HAVE BEEN TAKING THE REMOVAL FLIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS AND BRINGING THEM FURTHER INTO THE INTERIOR OF MEXICO TO MAKE RECIDIVISM MORE DIFFICULT. ...

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01:46:50

DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF NUMBER OF WHAT THE RATE OF RECIDIVISM IS? IS IT RELATIVELY HIGH SO THE 1.7 MILLION FIGURE IS INACCURATE.

01:47:05

THAT FIGURE IS INACCURATE, BUT WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN DIFFERING ENCOUNTERS AT THE BORDER IS VERY HIGH, IN FACT, THIS FISCAL YEAR 2021. ...

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01:47:17
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU. BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME, I WANT TO RETURN TO PRE-CLEARANCE. CUSTOM AND BORDER PROTECTION HAS OPERATIONS WHERE DIFFERENT PERSONNEL ARE STATIONED AT SIX DIFFERENT AIRPORTS IN SIX DIFFERENT COUNTRIES FOR PRE-CLEARANCE. WE HAVE NO SUCH FACILITIES IN ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT TO CREATE SUCH PROCEDURES IN ASIAN COUNTRIES SUCH AS JAPAN. BECAUSE PRE-CLEARANCE MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR TRAVELERS TO COME TO OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY ARE PRE-CLEARED TO DO SO IN THESE FACILITIES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES. ...

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01:47:58

THANK YOU, SENATOR, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

01:48:02

THANK YOU, SECRETARY.

01:48:07

SENATOR ROMO.

01:48:08
Josh Hawley Josh Hawley

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU HAVE TESTIFIED SEVERAL TIMES THAT YOU HAVE, QUOTE, RIGOROUS VETTING ASK SCREENING IN PLACE. RIGOROUS IS YOUR WORD FOR AFGHAN EVACUEES, REFUGEES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY AFTER THE DISASTROUS WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION CONDUCTED, HISTORICALLY CONDUCTED WHERE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND HUNDREDS STILL REMAIN. IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT RIGOROUS SCREENING AND VETTING HAS OCCURRED? I ASSUME YOU MEAN BY THAT THAT AT LEAST THE STANDARD REFUGEE SCREENING PROCESSES -- IF IT'S RIGOROUS, IT'S AT LEAST THE STANDARD REFUGEE SCREENING PROCESS? AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? ...

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01:48:57

SENATOR, I DO THINK IT DEVIATES FROM THE REFUGEE SCREENING, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS, INDEED, RIGOROUS. AND I USE THAT TERM ADVISEDLY. ...

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01:49:08
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

NOTED. I NOTED YOU USE IT ADVISEDLY. IT DEVIATES, THOUGH, FROM THE STANDARD SCREENING PROCEDURES. YOU'RE CONDUCTING IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS OF ALL THE REFUGEES PER THE STANDARD PROCEDURES. YOU TESTIFIED 100% OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SCREENED AND VETTED. YOU'RE CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS PER THE STANDARDS OF THESE REFUGEES? ...

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01:49:30
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, OUR U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION PERSONNEL HAVE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND QUESTIONS EACH INDIVIDUAL AT THE PORT OF ENTRY. IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, ANY DEROGATORY INFORMATION OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT BEARS ON THE INDIVIDUAL SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN BE PLACED IN SECONDARY -- ...

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01:49:54
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS STANDARD SECURITY PROCEDURE, THE STANDARD SCREENING PROCEDURE FOR REFUGEES, IF THEY ARE YOU SAID 100% OF A THEO VACUEES ARE SCREENED. ...

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01:50:19

THEY HAVE ALL NOT BEEN GIVEN INTERVIEWS --

01:50:21

WHY NOT?

01:50:22

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION TO EVACUATE U.S. CITIZENS, LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS, AND OTHERS --...

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01:50:32

AND WHAT PERCENTAGE DO THE SPECIAL IMMIGRANT VISA HOLDERS AND WHAT TOTAL DID THOSE CONSTITUTE?

01:50:41

I HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME ONE MINUTE.

01:50:47
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THE ANSWER IS AN EXTREMELY SMALL PERCENTAGE. MAYBE 60,000 WHO HAVE COME TO THE COUNTRY. MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU NOT CONDUCTING IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS OF THE PEOPLE BROUGHT HERE TO THE COUNTRY? DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS? ...

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01:51:04

I THINK IF THERE IS INFORMATION THAT GIVES ANY CAUSE FOR CONCERN, NUMBER ONE, THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT BROUGHT TO THE UNITED STATES --

01:51:12

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHEN YOU SAY ANY INFORMATION. YOU MEAN IF THEY ARE ALREADY IN OUR DATA BASE AS A TERRORIST AFFILIATE, RIGHT?

01:51:22

SENATOR, WE CAPTURE THE BIO METRIC AND BIOGRAPHIC INFORMATION IN THE TRANSIT COUNTRIES --

01:51:29
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND IF THEY'RE IN OUR DATA BASE ALREADY AS A TERRORIST OR TERRORIST AFFILIATE OR KNOWN CRIMINAL, THEN, MAYBE THEY GET AN INTERVIEW. SO, THAT'S FINE BUT WHAT ABOUT THE THOUSANDS, 10S OF THOUSANDS WHO AREN'T ALREADY IN OUR DATA BASE? THE PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE? HAVE THEY BEEN INTERVIEWED? ...

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01:51:52

SENATOR, WHAT WE DO IS CAPTURE THEIR BIOOGRAPHIC AND BIOMETRIC INFORMATION.

01:51:59

THAT'S LIKE A FINGERPRINT.

01:52:01

A FINGERPRINT, PHOTO PHOTOGRAPH AND WE RUN IT AGAINST OUR DATA BASES IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, INTELLIGENCE AND OTHER HOLDINGS.

01:52:11
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

BUT YOU'RE NOT INTERVIEWING THEM, MR. SECRETARY. IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE DATA BASE, THAT YOU BOTHER TO INTERVIEW THEM. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE 209/11 HIJACKERS WERE GIVEN AN IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW -- ...

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01:52:28

IF I MAY WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS.

01:52:31

NO, THIS IS IMPORTANT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THE HIJACKERS HAD AN INTERVIEW?

01:52:37
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ONE. THE OTHERS WERE NOT GIVEN AN INTERVIEW. FOR THAT REASON, THE 9/11 COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IN-PUSHESEN INTERIN-PERSON INTERVIEWS FOR ALL PERSON BROUGHT IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. FOR THAT'S WHY THE STANDARD PROCEDURE IS AN IN-PERSON INTERVIEW. NOW, YOU'VE TESTIFIED YOU'RE NOT DOING THOSE INTERVIEWS. ...

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01:53:03

NOT --

01:53:04

THEY'RE NOT HAPPENING. YOU JUST SAID THEY'RE NOT BEING INTERVIEWED UNLESS THEY'RE ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM AS A KNOWN TERRORIST. THAT WOULD HAVE CAPTURED NONE OF THE 9/11 HIJACKERS. ...

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01:53:18

I APOLOGIZE IF I WAS NOT CLEAR. YOU ARE CORRECT THAT WE ARE NOT CONDUCTING IN-PERSON FULL REFUGEE INTERVIEWS --

01:53:31

WHAT PERCENTAGE?

01:53:34

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.

01:53:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WHAT NUMBER OF THE MORE THAN 60,000 BROUGHT TO THE COUNTRY, WHAT NUMBER HAVE RECEIVED AN IN-PERSON INTERVIEW BEFORE THEY CAME AT THE COUNTRY? YOU SAID 100% ARE SCREENED. WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE GIVEN AN ACTUAL INTERVIEW BEFORE THEY COME TO THE COUNTRY? ...

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01:53:53

WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING OF A FULL REFUGEE LIKE INTERVIEW, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

01:53:58

WHY NOT? ARE YOU DONE TRACKING IT?

01:54:01

NO, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA WITH ME.

01:54:02

I HEAR YOU. BUT WHY DON'T YOU? ARE YOU NOT TRACKING IT?

01:54:09

WE HAVEDATE OUGHT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. YOU'RE ASKING WHAT DATA I HAVE AT MY FINGERPRINT.

01:54:16
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WHY DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED OR NOT BEFORE THEY'RE BROUGHT AT THE COUNTRY? BY THE WAY, ARE YOU FOLLOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PEOPLE BROUGHT TO THE COUNTRY? A FEMALE U.S. SERVICE MEMBER WAS ASSAULTED AT EVACUEES. IN WISCONSIN, THEY IDENTIFIED NUMEROUS INCIDENTS, IN WHICH AFGHAN GIRLS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MUCH OLDER MEN. AND AFGHAN RAPES FOR AFGHAN GIRLS AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T CONDUCTED AN INTERVIEW. ...

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01:54:59

THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN SCREENED, AS I SPOKE OF PREVIOUSLY.

01:55:03

YOU'VE INTERVIEWED THEM?

01:55:05

LET ME SHARE WITH YOU IF AN INDIVIDUAL VIOLATES CONDITION OF PAROLE, TWO THINGS CAN HAPPEN. THEY CAN BE CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED, DEPENDING ON THE REASON FOR THEIR VIOLATION. ...

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01:55:16
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

MY TIME'S EXPIRED. I JUST WANT TO SAY THE FACT THAT YOU ARE NOT CONDUCTING THE MOST STANDARD INTERVIEWS FOR 10S OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY IS ASTOUNDING TO ME AND IT SEEMS TO ME YOU'VE NOT LEARNED THE MOST BASIC LESSON WE LEARNED ON 9/11 SINCE THEN AND THE SECURITY RISK IS UNBELIEVABLE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ...

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01:55:38

SENATOR BLUMENTHAL.

01:55:40

JUST TO COMPLETE THE RESPONSE AND CLARIFY, NOBODY BECOME AS PERMANENT RESIDENT WITHOUT THAT FULL INTERVIEW, IS THAT CORRECT?

01:55:52

THAT IS CORRECT.

01:55:53

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD IN RESPONSE TO SENATOR HOLLY'S QUESTION?

01:55:58
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE INCIDENTS OF VIOLATIONS OF PAROLE, WHICH SENATOR HOLLY CORRECTLY APPOINTED TO, IS THE GREAT EXCEPTION, EXTRAORDINARY EXCEPTION AND NOT THE RULE. WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF OPERATION ALLIES WELCOME AND OUR ABILITY TO RESETTLE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WORKED ALONG SIDE US AIN THE THEATER OF WAR AND WHO OTHERS WITH NEED HUMANITARIAN PROTECTION. ...

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01:56:26

THANK YOU.

01:56:28
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

RECENTLY, MR. SECRETARY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT AT QUANTICO AND SEE SOME OF THE WORK BEING DONE TO RESETTLE A PORTION OF THE MORE THAN 120,000 AFGHANS WHO HAVE BEEN EVACUATED SO FAR. AS YOU KNOW, 75 TO 80,000 OF THEM ARE EITHER IN THIS COUNTRY OR WILL BE SHORTLY. THAT IS A MASSIVE CHALLENGE TO BE SETTLED IN THIS COUNTRY. I HAVE A VERY DEEP CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S A PLAN TO DO IT, WHETHER THERE ARE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MASSIVE FEET OF RESETTLEMENT. AS YOU MAY KNOW, MY OFFICE AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ATTEMPTING TO EVACUATE, AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL OF AMERICAN TROOPS, NOT ONLY CITIZENS, BUT ALLIES STRANDED AND TRAPPED THERE POTENTIALLY AT SERIOUS RISK. 120,000 WHO WERE AIR LIFTED, MANY OF THEM WERE NOT AT RISK, WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE AIRPORT. THE ONESALITY AT RISK WERE FEARFUL OF GOING THROUGH THE TALIBAN CHECK POINT. AND SO, THEY ARE STILL TRAPPED THERE WITH TARGETS ON THEIR BACK BECAUSE THEY SIDED WITH US. THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE AS INTERPRETERS AND TRANSLATORS AND GUARDS AND OTHERS WHO HELPED OUR JOURNALISTS, AS WELL AS OUR TROOPS AND DIPLOMATS AND PROTECTED THEM. SO, NOW WE HAVE THIS TREMENDOUS CHALLENGE AHEAD OF US AND WHAT I'VE SEEN ABOUT THE EVACUATION EFFORT IS A LOT OF AGENCIES POINTING FINGERS AT STATES, POINTING FINGERS AT DOD OR DOD POINTING FINGERS AT DHS, AND AT QUANTICO THERE'S AN ALPHABET OF AGENCIES ON THE GROUND. I WANT TO AVOID THE SAME FINGERPRINTING WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RESETTLEMENT EFFORTS. ABOUT 6.8 BILLION HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED SO FAR. AS YOU KNOW, IN THE CR TO ACCOMPLISH RESETTLEMENT. I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED, NUMBER ONE, WITH THE EVACUATION OF A GANS STILL AT RISK THERE. I'VE CALLED FOR AN EVACUATION CZAR. TO AVOID AN ATTEMPT TO SHIFT BLAME AND FINGER POINT IN ENABLING OUR AFGHAN ALLIES, AS WELL AS AMERICAN CITIZENS, GREEN CARD HOLDERS STILL THERE, TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. AND WHILE HERE, WE NEED A SIMILAR KIND OF CZAR WITH STATUS AND CREDIBILITY. I KNOW THAT JACK MARKLE IS GOING TO BE LEAVING TO BECOME AN AMBASSADOR. THAT POSITION WILL SOON BE UNTILLED. BUT EVEN THAT DIVISION IS NOT SUFFICIENTLY ELEVATED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK AND THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE ARE INADEQUATE. SO, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU TO HELP US HELP YOU WITH THIS. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE? AND WHAT DO YOU NEED IN THE WAY OF SUPPORT, AND RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FEET? BECAUSE THERE ARE RESETTLEMENT AGENCIES. SEARY AND CONNECTICUT ARE TWO. THEY'RE ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. TRYING TO HELP. BUTTED THEY NEED SUPPORT FROM YOUR AGE AENGS AND OTHERS IN THIS ALPHABET SOUP OUT OF QUANTICO AND SIMILAR BASES AROUND THE COUNTRY. I WANT YOU TO HELP ME TO HELP YOU WITH THIS TASK BECAUSE VERY SHORTLY, AS YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S QUANTICO OR ANY OTHER BASES, THE WEATHER IS GOING TO TURN BAD. THE TENT CITIES ARE GOING TO BECOME MUD CITIES AND THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE CITIES ARE GOING TO RIGHTLY BE PRETTY UNHAPPY, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN. AND ABOUT HALF OF THEM ARE CHILDREN. I JUST WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING HOW IMPRESSED I WAS BY THE MARINES I SAW AT QUANTICO, BY THE PERSONNEL OUT THERE. THEY ARE ALL IN. THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE GUESTS. I HAPPEN TO MEET WHILE I WAS THERE, AMONG THE GUESTS, ONE OF THE FAMILIES THAT WAS AIR LIFTED ON ONE OF THE PLANES THAT MY FLIGHT, MY OFFICE WAS INVOLVED IN ARRANGING ONE OF THE FLIGHTS TO CARRY THESE PEOPLE TO FREEDOM. IT WAS INCREDIBLY MOVING TO MEET THEM. AND TEAM KNOW THAT THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE OF FLIGHTS ARRANGED, IN PART, BECAUSE OF MY OFFICE. AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT WE CAN DO. BECAUSE AMERICANS SHOULD BE INVESTED. IN TRYING TO ENABLE IT TO ESCAPE. ...

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02:02:03
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, LET ME, AT THE OUTSIDE, THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP ON THIS. AND YOUR CONCERN FOR THE VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS WHO REMAIN IN AFGHANISTAN. OUR COMMITMENT TO THEM IS ON GOING. IT'S CONTINUES WS AND WE BUILT A SORT OF SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO RELIEF FOR THEM. AND ALSO FOR YOUR CONCERN WITH RESNEEKT SETTLEMENTS. WE'RE RESETTLING, WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE AGENCY. JUST OVER AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 4,000 AFGHAN NATIONALS A WEEK. OUR TIMELINE, THANKS TO THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK OF SENATOR MARKLE AND BOB STENTEN OF FEMA REGION NINE LEADER, WHO IS MOVED FROM SAN FRANCISCO TO WASHINGTON D.C. TO LEAD OPERATION ALLIES WELCOME. AND OUR COORDINATION EFFORTS. WE HAVE A TIMELINE FROM BETWEEN DECEMBER AND FEBRUARY TO COMPLETE THE RESETTLEMENT OF THE AFGHAN NATIONALS HERE. WE'RE VERY FOCUSSED ON JOBS, ON HOUSING AND FUNDING. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR CONGRESS' INSISTENCE ON THE FUNDING AND I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU AND DISCUSS WITH YOU WHAT OTHER SUPPORT WE COULD REALLY USE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MISSION. AND I SO GREATLY APPRECIATE AND VALUE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO IT. ...

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02:03:29
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP, IF I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE IN THE SECOND ROUND, TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. OR IF YOU DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE THE RESPONSE NOW. BUT I FEEL IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE A FIRM TIMELINE AND THAT WE, IN EFFECT, STRENGTHEN OR HARDEN OR WEATHERIZE AND WINTERIZE THE FACILITIES ON THESE BASEZ BFORE DECEMBER AND FEBRUARY, EVEN IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT TIMELINE AND CAN KNOW WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNTS YOU NEED. ...

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02:04:01

THANK YOU. SENATOR KENNEDY.

02:04:13
John Neely Kennedy John Neely Kennedy

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY, FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THERE'S A FAMOUS MOVIE LINE, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD IT. DESERVES GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. DESERVES GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU DESERVE TO HAVE TO BE HERE TODAY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT IMMIGRATION. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE CALLING THE SHOTS. I THINK THOSE SHOTS ARE BEING CALLED OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. I THINK THEY OUGHT TO BE HERE. THE PEOPLE DETERMINING OUR BORDER POLICY, IN YOUR OPINION, ARE THEY JUST INCOMPETENT OR DO THEY BELIEVE IN OPEN BORDERS? ...

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02:05:07

SENATOR, I INTENSELY AND IMMENSELY PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CABINET AND FOR THE POLICIES THAT ARE PROMULGATED, I SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

02:05:22
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I LOOKED LAST NIGHT AT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PLATFORM, WHEN HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT. HE SUPPORTED AMNESTY FOR THE 11.7 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. HE PROMISED HE WOULD END THE REMAIN IN MEXICO PROGRAM, PROMISED HE WOULD END THE SAFE THIRD COUNTRY AGREEMENTS, PROMISED TO GET RID OF THE BORDER WALL AND PROMISED TO ENCOURAGE SANCTUARY CITIES AND SAID I'M NOT GOING TO DEPORT PEOPLE. CAN WE AGREE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE MINCA MATERIAL TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S AN OPEN BORDER POLICY? ...

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02:06:03

SENATOR, A FEW OF YOUR RESITATIONS, IF I MAY, RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT, WERE NOT ACCURATE PORTRAYALS OF THE PRESIDENT'S POLICY.

02:06:13

I LOOKED UP HIS PLATFORM. IT'S RIGHT THERE. HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE ON IMMIGRATION.

02:06:23

SENATOR, AGAIN, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF THE PRESIDENT'S POLICY. FOR EXAMPLE --

02:06:30
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YOU SAY HE DIDN'T SAY THIS. THE SURGES AT THE BORDER, THE 1.7 MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN ILLEGALLY AND THE "WASHINGTON POST" SAYS IT'S ANOTHER THOUSAND UNDETECTED. PRESIDENT SAYS THAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY YEAR. IS HE WRONG ON THAT OR RIGHT ON THAT? ...

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02:06:54

SENATOR, WE ENCOUNTER MANY, MANY PEOPLE AT THE BORDER EVERY YEAR. THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED OF DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THIS YEAR IS AT A HISTORIC LEVEL. ...

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02:07:07

LIKE THE HIGHEST IN 60 YEARS, RIGHT?

02:07:09

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TIME FRAME BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A HISTORICALLY HIGH NUMBER.

02:07:17

YOUR ADMINISTRATION HAS RELEASED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INTO OUR COUNTRY, WHO ARE COVID POSITIVE, HAVE YOU NOT?

02:07:25

SENATOR, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS OUR POLICY TO TEST AND AS NECESSARY, ISOLATE AND QUARANTINE.

02:07:33

I KNOW BUT YOU STILL RELEASED THOUSANDS WHO ARE POSITIVE, HAVEN'T YOU?

02:07:37
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THERE HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN RELEASED. AND BY THE WAY, THOSE INDIVIDUALS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S A MISPERCEPTION. THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT IMMEDIATELY EXPELLED OR REMOVED UNDER EXPEDITED PROCESSES, ARE PLACED INTO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS -- AND REQUIRED TO APPEAR IN COURT AND STAND BEFORE A JUDGE AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CLAIM UNDER LAW TO REMAIN IN THE UNITED STATES, THEY ARE REMOVED. ...

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02:08:09

YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS RELEASED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INTO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, WHO ARE DRUG DEALERS, HAVEN'T YOU?

02:08:18

I'M SORRY, SENATOR?

02:08:20

YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS RELEASED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ILLEGALLY INTO THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE DRUG DEALERS, HAVEN'T YOU?

02:08:27
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU'VE JUST ARTICULATED. IT IS OUR POLICY THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS A DRUG DEALER, AND WE ENCOUNTER AND APPREHEND THAT INDIVIDUAL AT THE BORDER, THE INDIVIDUAL POSE AS PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT AND THERE ARE NOT CONDITIONS AVAILABLE TO US TO INSURE -- ...

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02:08:48

BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF A THOUSAND A DAY, ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," COME IN UNDETECTED.

02:08:55

JUST TO FINISH MY STATEMENT.

02:08:56

I'M SORRY.

02:08:58

IF THERE ARE NOT CONDITIONS TO SECURE THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS DETAINED. IS PLACED IN IMMIGRATION CUSTODY.

02:09:07

RIGHT, WE KNOW THE SUPERLUATIVE JOB YOU'RE DOING. YOU'VE RELEASED THOUSANDS ILLEGALLY WHO HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS, HAVEN'T YOU?

02:09:20
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

INDIVIDUALS APPREHENDED AT THE BORDER, ARE SUBJECT TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PATHS. THEY CAN BE EXPELLED, UNDER TITLE 42 OF THE U.S. CODE UNDER THE CDC'S PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY. THEY CAN BE PLACED INTO EXPEDITED REMOVE. ...

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02:09:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'VE GOT LIMITED TIME AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE. BUT I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. THE BIDENED A MINSTRATION HAS RELEASED INTO OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER, THOUSANDS OF THEM, WHO HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS. ISN'T THAT THE CASE? ...

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02:09:58

SENATOR, I'M NOT AWARE OF THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS RELEASED INTO THE INTERIOR, WHO --

02:10:05

LET ME TRY ANOTHER ONE. YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS RELEASED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROMPTLY GONE ON WELFARE. ISN'T THAT THE CASE?

02:10:14

I DON'T BELIEVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES QUALIFY FOR WELFARE BUT THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO --

02:10:22

YOU EVER BEEN TO CALIFORNIA?

02:10:23

I GREW UP FOR MOST OF MY LIFER IN CALIFORNIA.

02:10:26

CHECK THEIR ROLES.

02:10:28

I WASN'T BORN IN THIS COUNTRY.

02:10:30

YES, SIR, I KNOW. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO TELL THE AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY EVERY CHANCE WE GET.

02:10:36

THANK YOU.

02:10:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

YOU'RE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF TIME. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, WHAT KIND OF GRADE WOULD YOU GIVE HER?

02:10:56

VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS NOT THE BORDER CZAR. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO FOCUS ON ROOT CAUSES.

02:11:07

IN MY LAST FEW SECONDS. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU TALKED TO HER ABOUT SECURING THE BORDER?

02:11:13

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

02:11:14

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

02:11:23

I SURE DO. YOU GET AN A-PLUS.

02:11:27
Cory Booker Cory Booker

I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE INCREDIBLE PROFESSIONALS AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR WORK AND DEDICATION TO OUR COUNTRY. I WANT TO START BY LOOKING AT THE AMERICAN FOOD SYSTEM, WHICH IS SAVAGELY BROKEN AND HURTING EVERYBODY FROM INCREDIBLY STAGGERING NUMBERS OF FAMILY FARMERS OUT OF BUSINESS AND HURTING THE END USERS WHERE JUST 2% OF AG SUBSIDIES GO TO FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, WHICH WE'RE TOLD TO EAT A MAJORITY OF. I WONDER IF YOU'RE A WIND ON WHAT'S HAPPENED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FOOD WORKERS, MANY WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS, AND MANY ARE UNDOCK YJT UNDOCKUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. YOU REFERENCED TO A "WORK SIDE ENFORCEMENT KWAELGTS AND" AND TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN LABOR MARKET AND THE DIGNITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL. I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE THREAT OF DEPORTATION AND HOW THAT'S SERVING AS DETERRENT TO IMMIGRANT WORKERS WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE SPEAK UP ABOUT UNSAFE CONDITIONS. I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AM. . RAIDS TARGETING POULTRY WORKERS, FOR EXAMPLE. THEY WERE SWEPT UP IN THE SETTLEMENT WITH THE EOC AND CHARGES WERE EVERYTHING FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND REAL EXPLOITATION OF THE IMMIGRANT WORKERS. THE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS AS YOU FOCUS ON CIVIL ENFORCEMENT ON THESE UNSKRUPILOUS WORKERS, WHO ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN ALMOST SLAVERY-LIKE CONDITIONS. OR AT LEAST UNDERMINING THEIR DIGNITY. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN THEY DO TO INCENTIVIZE WORKERS TO REPORT ABUSES TO PROTECTED THEIR RIGHTS AND DEFD THE LABOR STANDARDS OF EVERYONE? ...

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02:13:21
Cory Booker Cory Booker

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RAISING THIS ISSUE. WE'VE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT ENERGY FOCUSSED ON IT. WE'VE PROMULGATED A SUITE OF ISSUES TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE ISSUE YOU RAISED. YOU REFERENCED THE WORK SITE ENFORCEMENT POLICY, WHICH FOCUSES ON THOSE WHO EXPLOIT THE VULNERABILITIES OF THOSE UNLAWFULLY IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WE PROMULGATED A POLICY THAT OUR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TOOLS CANNOT BE USED FOR THE INSERTION OF WORKPLACE RIGHTS AND THIRD, A POLICY EXTENDING TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DO ASSERT THEIR RIGHTS, DEFERRED ACTION SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY ADVANCE THEIR INTERESTS, ADVANCE THEIR RIGHTS WITHOUT FEAR OF REMOVE FROM THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE A SUITE OF MEASURES. ...

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02:14:22
Cory Booker Cory Booker

IN OTHER WORDS, IF I COME FORWARD TO REPORT OUTRAGEOUS ABUSES FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT TO UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS, MY FEAR WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY DEPORTED OR TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. ...

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02:14:40
Cory Booker Cory Booker

SO, NUMBER ONE, YOU MIGHT FEAR YOUR REMOVE JUST BY HINT OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY THE SEPTEMBER 30th GUIDELINE I PROMULGATED INDICATED THAT UNLAWFUL PRESENCE IN ITSELF, IS NOT A BASIS FOR IMMIGRATION ACTION BUT RATHER WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND BORDER SECURITY AS THE PRIORITY AREAS. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, YOU MIGHT FEAR RETALIATION BY REASON OF YOUR ASSERTION OF RIGHTS AND WE HAVE CALLED UPON OUR DHS PERSONNEL TO EVAL EVALUATE A CASE BASED ON FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES, AND DETERMINE WHETHER WE SHOULD EXTEND DEFERRED ACTION, WHICH DOES NOT PROVIDE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH STATUS BUT LAWFUL PRESENCE SO THEY DO NOT NEED TO FEAR REMOVE, DESPITE OUR POLICIES AND THEY CAN ADVANCE THEIR RIGHTS AND VINDICATE THE RIGHTS AND HOLD THE UNSKRUPIALS EMPLOYER ACCOUNTABLE. ...

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02:15:46
Cory Booker Cory Booker

I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. CAN YOU CORRECT SOMETHING FOR ME. A LOT OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN CRITICAL IN THE HANDLING OF THE BORDER, AS YOU KNOW. IN REALITY, MONTHLY ENCOUNTERS AT THE SOUTHWEST BORDER RISING DRAMATICALLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WAS DUE IN PART TO WORSENING ECONOMIC CONDITIONS RESULTING FROM THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, IS THIS CORRECT? ...

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02:16:13

YES.

02:16:14

AND CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE, WHICH STARTED SIGNIFICANTLY, UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND OFTEN BEING DRIVEN PIE THE PANDEMIC?

02:16:23
Cory Booker Cory Booker

IF I MAY, 2019 BROUGHT INCREDIBLY HIGH NUMBERS AND ENCOUNTERS AT THE BORDER. MUCH HAS BEEN SAID THIS MORNING ABOUT THE PURPORTED PULL FACTORS. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHY PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR HOMES. WHY THEY FLEE VIOLENCE, WHY THEY FLEE ECONOMIC DESPERATION. WHY THEY FLEE THE DISASTERS THAT RESULT FROM CLIMATE CHANGE. ...

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02:16:52

THIS POLITATIZATION OF IT, PUTTING IT AT ONE FOOT OF A PRESIDENT OVER ANOTHER SEEMS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE REAL PROBLEM, THAT BEGAN TO BE SEEN UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, CORRECT? ...

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02:17:06

YES, AND THAT'S WHY --

02:17:09
Cory Booker Cory Booker

I WANT TO GET TWO QUICK QUESTIONS IN. THIS EXPULSION OF MIGRANTS, I THINK THEY CALLED IT A STEVEN MILLER SPECIAL, WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO USE THAT TO REMOVE PEOPLE. IS THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERING RESCINDING AGAIN, WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL CALLED ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL RESISTED TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION 'S ATTEMPTS TO ISSUE THAT ORDER IN THE FIRST PLACE, GIVETEN WAS UNNECESSARY? ...

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02:17:43

THE KRTD CONDUCTED AN INDEPENDENT STUDY, AND DETERMINED THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPERATIVE WILL REQUIRED ITS CONTINUES USE. AND THE DELTA VARIANT WAS A SIGNIFICANT REASON. ...

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02:17:57

SO, YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE GUIDANCE.

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IT IS A CDC AUTHORITY.

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AND TO GIVE DETAINED MIGRANTS, THE VACCINE -- THE PLAN TO PROVIDE COVID-19 VACCINES TO DETAINED MIGRANTS WAS OVERRULED WITH A SPECIFIC INTENT TO DETER IMMIGRATION. IS THAT TRUE? ...

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02:18:22

THAT IS NOT. WE OFFER VACCINATIONS TO INDIVIDUALS IN ICE CUSTODY. WE DO NOT MANDATE IT.

02:18:28

I WANT TO SUBMIT A QUESTION ON THE HAITIAN NATIONALS FOR THE RECORD AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

02:18:36

SEBNATOR BLACKBURN.

02:18:39
Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM OTHERS. SO MANY TENNESSEENS ARE ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED WITH THE BENEFITS AND THE HANDOUTS THAT ARE GIVEN TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY SUFFERING DUE TO THIS IMPRESSIVE INFLATION WE'RE SEEING TAKE HOLD OF OUR ECONOMY. AND WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES IN THE MIDST OF THE WORSE BORDER CRISIS EVER. NOW, MY COLLEAGUE TALKED ABOUT 2019, BUT ALSO THE NUMBER DROPPED IN 2020. AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF REMAIN IN MEXICO AND THE TITLE 42 POSITION THAT DROPPED TO NOW UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION, WE ARE AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH. YOU ARE SETTING RECORDS. AND NOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING IMMIGRANTS, THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS A BILLION DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENT MONEY. A BILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY. SO, I'D LIKE YOU TO HELP ME PUT THESE PAYMENTS INTO PERSPECTIVAL. OF THAT BILLION DOLLARS. SO, HOW MUCH OF A BORD -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GETTING TO ROOT CAUSES. BUILD A WALL. THIS IS WHY THEY'VE BEEN SAYING FOR THREE DECADES THAT THEY NEED IT IT. IT'S THE FACT THE BORDER PATROL WANTED THAT. HOW MUCH WOULD A BILLION DOLLARS OF A BORDER WALL BUILD? ...

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02:20:13

YOU'VE ASKED TWO VERY DIFFERENT --

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Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn

YES, I HAVE. I WANT AN ANSWER TO HOW MANY MILES OF BORDER WALL COULD YOU BUILD WITH A BILLION DOLLARS? OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. THE ANSWER IS 50 MILES. OF BORDER WALL. AND THEN HOW MANY BORDER PATROL AGENTS COULD YOU HIRE WITH A BILLION DOLLARS? SOMETHING ELSE THE BORDER PATROL SAID THEY NEED TO SECURE THE BORDER. ...

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02:20:40

SENATOR, MAY I SPEAK TO INNUMBER OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE POSED.

02:20:46

LET'S GO THROUGH THESE AND COME BACK. HOW MANY BORDER AGENTS COULD YOU HIRE?

02:20:53

I --

02:20:53

I CAN TELL YOU. OVER 15,000. AND HOW MANY JUDGES? HOW MANY IMMIGRATION JUDGES COULD YOU HIRE WITH A BILLION DOLLARS?

02:21:05

I WOULD RESPECTFULLY --

02:21:06
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

7,213 IMMIGRATION JUDGES COULD BE HIRED. THESE ARE THINGS THE BORDER PATROL HAS SAID THEY NEED. NOW, GRASSLEY ASKED YOU ABOUT A -- YOU RESPONDED TO HIM ON THE SETTLEMENT BECAUSE THE FAMILIES ARE SEPARATED AT THE BORDER. SO, CAN YOU SIT HERE TODAY AND TELL THIS COMMITTEE THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY SEPARATED SINCE YOUR ADMINISTRATION? YOU TOLD SENATOR GRASSLEY YOU ALL ENDED THAT POLICY DAY ONE. ...

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02:21:38

THAT IS CORRECT. WE ARE NOT --

02:21:42

BUT YOU SEPARATED FAMILIES -- I KNOW AS LATE AS MARCH. THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED. SO, ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A PAYMENT TO THEM? ...

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02:21:55

OH, SENATOR -- YOUR QUESTION -- FORGIVE ME, YOUR QUESTIONS IS FILLED WITH INACCURACY.

02:22:05

OH, NO, THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE PULLING FROM BORDER PATROL.

02:22:08

OH, NO.

02:22:11

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. ARE YOU PROMULGATING PEOPLE DAYS OR WEEKS? ARE YOU MAKING ANY DIFFERENCE IN THAT?

02:22:22

SENATOR, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN FED --

02:22:29

UNDER WHAT LEGAL AUTHORITY DO YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE THESE PAYMENTS?

02:22:34

SENATOR, IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO ANSWER AT LEAST ONE OF THE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE POSED --

02:22:42

I WANT TO MOVE ON IN THE TIME I HAVE TO A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE NAME CHAIRO?

02:22:51

I AM NOT.

02:22:57

PASQUEL?

02:22:58

NO.

02:23:02
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE CRIMINAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH A CONVICTED CRIME AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS SINCE JOE BIDEN TOOK OFFICE. THIS IS HAPPENED ON YOUR WATCH. PACERO WAS CHARGED WITH A HIT AND RUN THAT LEFT A FATHER OF TWO DEAD. AND ONE CHARGED WITH STABBING A MAN TO DEATH. AND THIS ADMINISTRATION'S RADICAL IMMIGRATION POLICIES ARE ENDANGERING AMERICANS AND COSTING SOME OF THEM THEIR LIVES. DOES THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAVE A PLAN TO ISSUE PAYMENTS TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE KILLED OR ASSAULTED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS? ...

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02:23:52

SENATOR, IN 2020, THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS WHO CROSSED ILLEGALLY INTO THE UNITED STATES --

02:24:00

THESE ARE ALL ON YOUR WATCH --

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AND COMMITTED CRIMES. IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT?

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Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND THESE ARE ALL ON YOUR WATCH. THE BUILD-BACK-BETTER PLAN SUPPORTS GIVING GREEN CARDS TO ILLEGAL ALIENS. THERE ARE MANY ADVOCATES OUT THERE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT GETS SHUT INTO THE BUILD-BACK-BETTER PLAN. I CALL IT BUILD-BACK-BROKE. DO YOU SUPPORT GIVING GREEN CARDS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? ...

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02:24:38

I BELIEVE THE PROVIDING PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR CERTAIN CRITERIA.

02:24:48

SO, YOU WOULD SUPPORT THEM GETTING A GREEN CARD WHEN WE HAVE AMERICANS OUT OF WORK. HAVE YOU EVER VISITED THE WHITE HOUSE?

02:24:59

YES.

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SO, YOU'RE AWARE THERE IS A FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE WHITE HOUSE TO PREVENT UNAUTHORIZED INDIVIDUALS FROM ENTERING THE WHITE HOUSE,...

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02:25:10

YES.

02:25:12

AND U.S. TAXPAYERS ARE ALSO FUNDING A HALF MILLION DOLLAR FENCE AROUND PRESIDENT BIDEN'S BEACH HOUSE, CORRECT?

02:25:21

I'M NOT AWARE.

02:25:23
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

AND YOUR DEPARTMENT IS OVER SEEING THIS CONSTRUCTION. YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. PRESIDENT BIDEN OBVIOUSLY LIKES WALLS WHEN THEY PROTECT HIM. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS EFFECTIVAL AND NECESSARY AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE BIDEN BEACH HOUSE BUT NOT NECESSARY AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER? ...

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02:25:40

YES, I CAN. MAY I HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY?

02:25:44

UP TO THE CHAIRMAN. MY TIME IS EXPIRED.

02:25:48

YOU MAY ANGSER THE QUESTION.

02:25:50
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF MILES ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER AND I AGREE WITH WHAT THEN SENATOR McCAIN PRESENTED. WHICH WAS THERE ARE DIFFERENCE SOLUTIONS FOR THE BORDER BECAUSE OF ITS TREMENDOUS EXPANSE. THE GREAT DIVERSITY IN THE TERRAINS THAT IT MUST COVER. AND THEREFORE, THE KEY, THE KEY TO BORDER SECURITY IS FUNDAMENTALLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. THAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSTRUCT A BORDER WALL ON THE RAGD AND JAGGED CLIFFS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE BORDER AND IF I MAY, RESPECTFULLY, AS I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS. LET ME JUST RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT I DISAGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WAS ARTICULATED IN THE QUESTIONS POSED TO ME THAT I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO. ...

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02:26:49

SENATOR PUGH.

02:26:50
Alex Padilla Alex Padilla

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND FIRST, I WANTED TO START WITH A COUPLE OF ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. THEY ISSUED A NEW MEMO TO TERMINATE THE MIGRATION PROTOCOLS IN LATE OCTOBER, ABOUT A MONTH AGO. THIS POLICY, AS WE KNOW, HAVE CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF HARDSHIP TO INDIVIDUALS DISPLACED IN MEXICO FOR THEIR ASYLUM SEEKING TO BE PROCESSED. YOU MENTIONED THAT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF MIGRATION AND THAT IT'S NOT AN EFFECTIVE DETERRENT POLICY. DATA, THAT YOU'VE BEGIN TO SHARE IS EVIDENCE OF THAT. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CANNOT BE TERMINATED UNTIL THE TEXAS COURT INJUNCTION IS VACATED, I'VE HEARD FROM MANY STAKEHOLDERS ALONG THE BORDER THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO HUMANIZE, MPP. I CAN IMAGINE THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE PARTNERS IN INSURING THEY'RE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND IT WILL TAKE A COLLECTIVAL EFFORT TO REVERSE THE LONG-LASTING EFFECTS OF MPP. I IMPLORE YOU AGAIN TO RESCIND IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ON A SECOND TOPIC. EARLIER THIS MONTH, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT WILL EXHIBIT FILING FEES AND STREAMLINE APPLICATION PROCESSING FOR AFGHAN EVACUEES WHO RECEIVED HUMANITARIAN PAROLE AND ALREADY IN THE UNITED STATES. WHILE I HOPE TO HELP OUR AFGHAN ALLIES SO THEY CAN BUILD A LIFE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WE MUST NOT FORGET ABOUT THOSE STILL OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. I ENCOURAGE THE DEPARTMENT TO ALSO WAVE THE FEES FOR THOSE AFGHANS WHO ARE APPLYING FOR HUMANITARIAN PATROL FROM OUTSIDE THE U.S. AND TO WORK WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO FACILITATE THEIR TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF AFGHANISTAN SO THAT THEIR APPLICATIONS CAN BE PROCESSED. I CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM CALIFORNIANS ABOUT HOW HELPFUL A FEE WAVER WILL BE AND I SENT A LETTER, ALONG WITH 26 OF MY COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING MANY OF THIS COMMITTEE, MAKING THIS EXACT REQUEST. WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD. I URGE THE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE SUPPORT TO THE AFGHAN ALLIES INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE U.S. NOW TOO, MY QUESTION. FIRST, WHICH IS A FOLLOW UP TO SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TODAY AND THAT'S ABOUT THE INCREASING NUMBER OF MIGRANT ENCOUNTERS. NOW, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THIS IS THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE MONTH OF BORDER ENCOUNTERS DECREASING. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS OR SHED SOME LIGHT OR CLARITY ON THE MORE RECENT STATISTICS AND TRENDS? ...

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02:29:55
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, SENATOR. WE HAVE INDEED INSTITUTED CERTAIN PRACTICES. NOT JUST ALONG THE BORDER BUT ALSO WITH OUR PARTNERS SOUTH OF THE BORDER. THAT HAVE IN FACT BORN FRUIT IN TERMS OF A REDUCED NUMBER OF ENCOUNTERS OF MIGRANTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER, WHETHER IT'S ENFORCEMENT MEASURES, WHETHER IT'S SAFE AND ORDERLY ALTERNATIVE PATHWAYS FOR PEOPLE WOULD NOT NEED TO TAKE THE PAIRILOUS JOURNEY AND IF YOU CAN APPLY FOR RELIEF FROM WHERE THEY ARE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MEASURES AND I WOULD BE PLEASED TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU SHARING WITH YOU ALL OF THE MEASURES WE HAVE TAKEN. ...

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02:30:44
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I'D APPRECIATE THAT AND CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT. AS THIS IS AN OVERSIGHTHERING, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT DISTURBING REPORTS AROUND THE CONDUCT AND ACTIONS OF CUSTOM AND BORDER PROTECTION AGENTS. A RECENT LETTER SENT BY THE SOUTHERN BORDER COMMITTEE'S COALITION RAISED SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT CRITICAL INCIDENT TEAMS. WITHIN AGENCIES THAT ARE INTERFERING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION OF CVBP AGENTS. ACCORD ACCORDING TO THE BORDER, THEY'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING WITHOUT AUTHORITY AND MAYBE OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE BY CHOOSING AGENTS FROM ACCOUNTABILITY. ONE CASE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING TO ME INVOLVES ROJAS, WHO WAS A LONG-TIME RESIDENT OF SAN DIEGO AND FATHER OF FIVE. IN 2010, HE WAS HOG TIED, BRUTALLY BEATEN AND REPEATEDLY TASED BY A BORDER AGENT UNTIL HE STOPPED BREATHING. THE POLICE RECORD REVEALED THAT, AFTER THE INCIDENT, BORDER PATROL AGENTS DESTROYED, ALTERED AND WITHHELD EVIDENCE FROM THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS INCIDENT DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. BORDER PATROL ABUSES WERE DISPLAYED ALL OVER NATIONAL MEDIA. MORE RECENTLY WITH THE CONCERNING TREATMENT OF HAITIAN MIGRANTS IN DEL RIO, TEXAS. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU, MR. SECRETARY, VALUE INTEGRITY. AND I HOPE YOU SHARE MY CONCERNS THAT THERE ARE SERIOUS QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE AGENCY. SECRETARY MI SECRETARY MAY OS, WHAT HAVE NAY [ INAUDIBLE ] ...

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02:32:47
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

A FEW THINGS, IF I MAY. FIRST OF ALL, SENATOR, I AM IMMENSELY PROUD TO WORK ALONG SIDE THE MEN AND WOMEN OF U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION AND THAT INCLUDES THE U.S. BORDER PATROL. THEY DO HEROIC WORK. PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK TO KEEP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND THE MISCONDUCT OF ONE IS NOT DEFINE THE HEROISM AND INTEGRITY OF THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN. THIS FRIDAY WE'RE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. BECAUSE WE DO NOT TOLERATE MISCONDUCT IN ANY PART OF THE WORK FORCE, IN ANY CORNER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THIS COMING FRIDAY TO DISCUSS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTEXTS. THAT IS HOSTED BY AND PROPELLED BY THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT AGENCY. WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN OUR WORK FORCE AND WE WILL ROOT OUT MISCONDUCT WHEREVER IT OCCURS. ...

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02:33:56

I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS.

02:33:59

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:34:01

THANK YOU PLRKS CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I HOPE YOU'RE RECOVERING WELL FROM YOUR BOUT WITH COVID.

02:34:09

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:34:11
Thom Tillis Thom Tillis

I'M NOT GOING TO GET YOU INTO A QUESTION OR GET INTO A SERIES OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU OR THE ADMINISTRATION ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE'S A CRISIS AT THE BORDER. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY BASIS FOR WHY I BELIEVE THERE'S A CRISIS. I THINK THERE'S A CRISIS BECAUSE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED, IF NOT IN THIS COUNTRY, IN TRANSIT TO THE COUNTRY. OVER THE PAST YEAR, NOT ONLY THIS YEAR BUT YEARS PAST. HUNDREDS OF BODIES HAVE BEEN RECOVERED ON U.S. SOIL. I ACTUALLY SAW ONE IN THE RIO GRAND WHEN I WAS THERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. BILLIONS ARE BEING PAID TO CARTELS IN TOLLS TO GET ACROSS THE BORDER AND THOSE DON'T PAYING THE TOLES, COULD END UP DYING. WE'VE SEEN THE LATEST REPORT ON SEIZURES. THEY'RE GOING UP. PRRLS WHAT WORRIES ME IS HOW MUCH WE DON'T KNOW, HOW MUCH IS POISONING AMERICANS? ANECDOTALLY, WHAT I CONSIDER A CRISIS IS WHEN AN 11-YEAR-OLD, WHO WAS BEING TREATED A THAT TIME I WAS DOWN AT THE BORDER, AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL COULDN'T SPEAK. SHE'D BEEN GANG RAPED AND HAD WENT ON FOR SO LONG THAT SHE WAS SCREAMING AND CRYING. THAT'S A CRISIS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNIQUE. WE CAN GET INTO THE ANECDOTAL REPORT BUT WE KNOW CRIMINALS ARE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER. THANK GOODNESS FOR BORDER PATROL AND IEGS AND OTHERS. THEY ARE BEING APPREHENDED. THEY'RE SIMILAR TO OUR SEIZURE REPORTS. WE ALWAYS, AFTER WE TALK ABOUT A SEIZURE OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FENTANYL OR OTHER DRUGS, IT'S A WIN BUT WE KNOW IT'S A MINORITY. FOR EVERY ONE OF THE CRIMINALS, THE RUNNERS, FOR EVERYONE WE CAPTURE, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY MANY MORE ARE COME NOTHINGING INTO THE COUNTRY. I AGREE A PART OF IT IS A FAILED IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. IF I HAVE TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I THINK IF WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT THE FATALITIES, TALKED ABOUT THE IMPENDING CRISIS, WHEN THE VACCINE MANDATE IS IMPOSED AND WE'RE DOWN ON BORDER PATROL AGENTS, HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW? ...

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02:36:40

VACANCIES?

02:36:41

YEAH.

02:36:43
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER AT MY DISPOSAL BUT I'LL SAY THE RATE OF BORDER PATROL AGENTS BEING VACCINATED HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. EVEN IF IT'S A FIVE OR SIX OR 7% ATRITION RATE AT THE EBD END OF THE DAY. DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD THING OR DO YOU LOSE 6 OR 7% OF YOUR WORKFORCE? ...

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02:37:11

WE DON'T --

02:37:13
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

AND KNOWING, AS I DO, THE PROCESS FOR ON BOARDING A BORDER PATROL AGENT, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD PIPELINE BECAUSE IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS MANY CAN'T WAIT FOR TO GET ON BOARD IF THEY WANT TO. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE BORDER PATROL AGENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING THE SAME RATH MANY POLICE OFFICERS HAVE GOTTEN. GOT THE ACTIONS BASED ON WHATEVER INVESTIGATION THAT OCCURRED. MAYBE A BAD ACTOR, MAYBE NOT. MAYBE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT THEY WERE OPERATING ON AND YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE FEWER REASONS TO COME AND WORK IN ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT JOBS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S AT THE BORDER. THOSE, TO ME, TO ANY RATIONAL PERSON WOULD SUGGEST SEST WE HAVE A CRISIS TO WORK ON. WE CAN DEBATE THE EFFICACY OF THE PRIOR ODMINISTRATION'S POLICY, AND THE PROBLEMS I HAVE WITH CURRENT POLICIES. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THERE IS A PROBLEM. IN JUNE, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, I UNDERSTAND, IS LEADING THE EFFORT FOR THE CHALLENGE AT THE BORDER, A SWEEPING STRATEGY. I THINK ROUGHLY AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAD A DOCUMENT, A DHS PLAN TAREO RESTORE TRUST IN THE LEGAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. I SENT YOU A LETTER IN JUNE THAT THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED. A BLUEPRINT SO YOU COULDN'T REALLY SHARE IT WITH US NOW. BUT WE HEARD MEDIA REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED. QUESTION NOW IS, IS THE BLUEPRINT FINALIZED AND TO WHAT EXTENT IS IT EFFECTING YOUR OPERATIONS? ...

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02:38:48

AND ALSO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING THE VULNERABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO REGRETTABLY PLACED THEIR LIVES INTO THE HANDS OF EXPLOITATED SMUGGLERS. ...

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02:39:03
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I DID A MATH AND THE AVERAGE TOLL IS 7 OR $8,000. I DISCOUNTED IT TO $5,000. IF YOU MULTIPLY IT BY 1.7, THAT'S 8$8.5 BILLION. MAYBE THEY GOT A MONEY-BACK GUARANTEE. AND THAT'S WHY I DISCOUNTED IT TO 5,000. WE'RE PAYING CARTELS, HUMAN SMUGGLERS, PEOPLE THAT RUN ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT ALONE WOULD SEEM LIKE A CRISIS. IF WE DISCOUNTED EVERYTHING ELSE. I HAVE TO GET TO ONE QUESTION HATH HAS TO DO WITH VACCINATIONS. I'VE READ SEVERAL REPORTS ABOUT A RELATIVELY LOW RESEPATIVETY RATE FOR THE VACCINE. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT IMPLEMENTING A NATIONAL MANDATE FOR VACCINES FOR EMPLOYERS AND FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. WHY SOME R SHOULDN'T WE MANDATE TO SOMEONE COMING ACROSS THE COUNTRY? VACCINATE OR REASON FOR EXPULSION? ...

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02:40:08

SENATOR, THE ANALYSIS FOR MIGRANTS ENCOUNTERED AT THE BORDER IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE FEDERAL WORK FORCE THAT LEADS BY EXAMPLE. WE ARE, IN FACT, REMOVING THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE'RE EXPELLING THEM VERY RAPIDLY. ...

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02:40:22

CAN WE REMOVE THEM IF THEY REFUSE TO TAKE A VACCINE?

02:40:25

UNDER TITLE 42.

02:40:28
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WHY SHOULDN'T THAT BE -- I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT HE'S BEING REALLY GOOD. I MAY HAVE A SHOT. THE INDEFERANCE, I'LL BE BRIEF. IF WE THINK, FOR THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IF THE PRESIDENT THINKS HE SHOULD MANDATE A VACCINE, IT JUST SEEMS ABSURD TO MY THAT WOULDN'T BE A DEAL KILLER FOR ANYONE COMING THROUGH NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THE VACCINE. AND BY SENDING THE MESSAGE TO ANYONE COMING TO OUR BORDER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET REMOVED, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET VACCINATED OR ABSOLUTELY GET REMOVED, MAYBE THAT'S ONE PULL FACTOR WE CAN WORK ON TOGETHER RIGHT NOW. AND FINALLY, THAT -- I KNOW YOU SAID AND TO SENATOR GRAHAM THAT THE 400,000 -- LET'S SAY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS BEING NEGOTIATED AT THE DHS IS OUT OF YOUR LANE. I AGREE E. BUT I BELIEVE IT'S WRONG AND IF THEY END UP SETTLING AND IT BECOMES KNOWN YOU CAN COME ACROSS THE BORDER AND POTENTIALLY BUILD A CASE TO GET HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS PAYOUT, IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER REASON IT'S A CRISIS AND NOT JUST A SITUATION TO WORK THROUGH. THANK YOU AND WISH YOU GOOD HEALTH. ...

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02:41:44

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:41:49

MR. SECRETARY, I'M RECOGNIZED AND APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. GLAD TO SEE THAT YOUBL RECOVERED FULLY FROM COVID-19.

02:41:59

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:42:01
Jon Ossoff Jon Ossoff

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE RECENT RESPONSIVENESS TO REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS. WE FACED CHALLENGES AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD CANDID CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. WE'VE SEEN A MARKED IMPROVEMENT IN THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSES TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND WANT TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT THAT WILL CONTINUE AND THAT, AS DEPARTMENT AND SUBCOMMITTEE CONTINUES ITS WORK, THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THE ROBUST AND TIMELY RESPONSE TO OUR REQUEST. ...

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02:42:35

YOU MOST CERTAINLY WILL, MR. SENATOR.

02:42:38
Jon Ossoff Jon Ossoff

LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU THE SUPPLY CHAIN BOTTLE NECKS AND CONSTRAINTS WE'RE FACING AT MAJOR SHIPPING CONTAINER PORTS ACROSS THE COUNT PRAE. AS YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF GRJ GJ, HOSTS THE PORT OF SAVANNAH, WHICH IS HOW YOU COUNT THE THIRD OR FOURTH LARGEST PORT OF ITS KIND IN THE UNITED STATES. THE LARGEST SINGLE CONTAINER TERMINAL IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT DELAYS IN THE PROCESSING OF INBOUND SHIPMENTS AND CHALLENGES. WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT STEPS THE DEPARTMENT IS TAKING AS PART OF A BROADER FEDERAL RESPONSE TO EASE THESE BOTTLE NECKS AT SHIPPING PORTS? ...

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02:43:19
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I'M VERY WELL AWARE OF THE CHALLENGE THERE. ONE MEASURE WE HAVE TAKEN IS TO INCREASE THE HOURS OF OPERATION. SOMETIME AS 24/7 CLIP TO FACILITATE EASING THE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCE OZ OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGE. ...

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02:43:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY AND I WAS GLAD THAT THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE ADMINISTRATION ACCEPTED MY REQUEST THAT APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION BE ALLOWED TO THE PORT OF SAVANNAH TO ALLOW AUXILIARY AREAS AND INLAND PORTS. I'M GLAD THE RESOURCES ARE ON THE WAY AND I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR COMMITMENT, TO THE EXTENT IT'S INVOLVED IN THOSE EFFORTS, WILL MOVE AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THOSE EFFORTS IN THE PORT OF SAVANNAH. ...

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02:44:20

WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL.

02:44:22
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ON A RELATED NOTE, IN ADDITION TO HOSTING THE FOURTH LARGEST CONTAINER PORT IN THE COUNTRY, GEORGIA HOSTS THE BUSIEST AIRPORT IN THE WORLD. JACKSON INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. AND GIVEN THE CHANGES TO COVID-19 RELATED RESTRICTIONS ON ENTRY TO THE UNITED STATES, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AND INCREASE IN DOMESTIC TRAVEL, THERE ARE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT CAPACITY AND TSA CAPACITY AT AIRPORTS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND I'VE HEARD FROM DELTA ABOUT CONCERNS ON THE ULKTDABILITY TO PROCESS TRANSIENTS. TOURISTS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE WE WANT DOING BUSINESS AND COMMERCE IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT WE WANT SMOOTH OPERATIONS IN OUR AIRPORT. WILL YOU PLEASE DESIGNATE SOMEONE IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO CAN SPEAK WITH MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS LIKE DELTA, LIKE CITY OF ATLANTA TO PLAKMAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE AIRPORT PERFORMING NEED, OPERATOR'S NEED AND HAVE AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION TO REDUCE TRAVELLER WAIT TIMES, BOTH DOMESTIC TRAVEL, TSA LINES AND TRAVELLERS AT THE AIRPORT. ...

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02:45:50

MOST CERTAINLY AND I CAN IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW.

02:45:54

PLEASE.

02:45:55
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

TROY MILLER. EXPERIENCED. GREW UP IN THE FIELD OF OFFICE FIELD OPERATION AND WILLIAM BERATA WHO LEADS NOW AND ON THE TSA SIDE, JOY AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOCUSSED ON STAFFING. THE AIRPORTS IN ATLANTA. OF COURSE, AND ALL AIRPORTS BIG AND SMALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ...

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02:46:23
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WELL, LOOK FORWARD TO CONVENING THOSE TWO PUBLIC SERVANTS WITH AIRPORT LEADERSHIP, CITY LEADERSHIP, DELTA AND OTHER CARRIERS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING WELL ABOUT, NOT JUST MEETING BUT ANTICIPATING THE NEEDS AS TRAVEL INCREASES NATIONWIDE. ...

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02:46:40

I WOULD BE PLEASED TO ENGAGE AS WELL. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE VERY FOCUSSED ON. GOES TO THE PROSPERITY OF OUR COUNTRY IN RECEIVING PEOPLE FOR TOURISM AND BUSINESS PURPOSES AND OTHER REASONS. ...

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02:46:52
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. MY FINAL QUESTION ABOUT U.S. COAST GUARD. HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH THE SEVENTH DISTRICT COMMAND AS WELL AS MEETING WITH ENLISTED PERSONNEL, ENLISTED U.S. COAST GUARD PERSONNEL AND HEARING FROM THEM THEIR NEEDS AND CONCERNS. I HAVE SUCH IMMENSE RESPECT FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES COAST GARD, AS I KNOW YOU DO, FOR THE WORK THEY DO EVERY DIE TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY, PREVENT ILLEGAL FISHING, TO ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. TO RESPOND TO NATURAL DISASTERS, PROVIDE SEARCH AND RESCUE SERVICES TO AMERICANS WHO NEED HELP. AT THE ARE AMAZING PEOPLE AND I COMMEND THE U.S. COAST GUARD FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK THEY DO. ESPECIALLY HEARD ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES THEY'RE HAVING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CHILD CARE. AND SO, WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU IS SOMEONE FROM YOUR TEAM WILL WORK WITH MINE TO MAP OUT WHETHER THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS WE CAN FIND WORKING TOGETHER TO INSURE THAT COAST GUARD PERSONNEL AND ESPECIALLY THOSE YOUNGER JUNIOR-ENLISTED PERSONNEL HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A CHILD CARE SERVICES. THERE'S DISCUSSION WE CAN GET TO COMPLEX ISSUES. NOT ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC POLICY COMMITMENT BUT YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND STAFF'S ENGAGEMENT IN WORKING TOGETHER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND KITCHEN TABLE POCKET-BOOK ISSUES FOR, ESPECIALLY THOSE YOUNG WOMEN AND MEN KEEPING OUR COUNTRY SAFE THROUGH THEIR SERVICE IN THE COAST GUARD. ...

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02:48:39
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THAT PURSUANT TO THE BILL THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED INTO LAW YESTERDAY, $434 MILLION, I THINK IS THE FIGURE, WILL BE DEDICATED THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AND PART OF THAT MONEY WILL BE TO ADDRESS THE -- SOME OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES TO WHICH YOU NOW REFER. HOUSING, CHILD CARE, AND THE LIKE. THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE WHY THE BILL THAT THE PRESIDENT SIGNED INTO LAW AND TO FIGHT THE PARTISAN BILL THAT THE PRESIDENT CHAMPIONED AND SO MANY OTHERS, IS SUCH A MONUMENTAL CHAPTER IN OUR AMERICAN HISTORY. ...

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02:49:23
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. AND DESPITE THE PARTISANSHIP AT MANY OF THESE HEARINGS, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, THAT WILL SUPPORT AIRPORTS AND PORTS, AND COAST GUARD, SHOWING POLITICAL PARTIES CAN RISE ABOVE AND PUT NATIONAL INTEREST FIRST. THANK YOU. ...

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02:49:45

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:49:51
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

WE WILL NOW TAKE A SHORT 10-MINUTE RECESS TO ALLOW SENATORS TO VOTE. WHEN WE RETURN, SENATOR COTTON WILL BE RECOGNIZED FOR HIS FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONING. ANY SENATORS REQUESTING A SECOND ROUND, MUST ASK QUESTIONS FOLLOWING SENATOR COTTON.$1.75 TRILLION SOCIAL SPENDING BILL. ...

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02:50:28
Dick Durbin Dick Durbin

I MIGHT SAY THAT ANY SENATOR SEEKING A SECOND ROUND NEEDS TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AS SENATOR LEE IS TO MAKE THAT REQUEST, AND SO EACH OF THE STAFF MEMBERS HAVE TEN MINUTES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR MEMBER, IF INTERESTED IN A SECOND ROUND, IS PHYSICALLY HERE. SENATOR COTTON. ...

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02:50:45
Tom Cotton Tom Cotton

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. SECRETARY, ON SEPTEMBER 29th, THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION WROTE TO THE WHITE HOUSE CALLING PARENTS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR KIDS' SCHOOL. WITHIN A FEW DAYS, ATTORNEY GENERAL GARLAND ISSUED A DIRECTIVE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND FBI TO CRACK DOWN NOT JUST ON VIOLENT BUT WHAT HE CALLED, QUOTE, HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION AGAINST SCHOOL BOARD ADMINISTRATORS, BOARD MEMBERS, TEACHERS, AND STAFF. THE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MET WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND GOT TIPS FROM THEM ON WHAT TO PUT IN THEIR LETTER BEFORE SENDING IT. WE HAVE ALSO RECENTLY LEARNED FROM AN INTERNAL MEMORANDUM THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION, QUOTE, AS DISRUPTIONS AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS MEAN, THE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. HAS ANYONE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY MET WITH ANYONE FROM THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION. ...

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02:51:36

SENATOR, NOT THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULD FALL WITHIN OUR JURXZ.

02:51:42

DID YOU SEE A COPY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S MEMORANDUM BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED?

02:51:46

I DID NOT.

02:51:46
Tom Cotton Tom Cotton

OKAY, THANK YOU. A FEW WEEKS AGO, IT WAS REPORTED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WAS IN TALKS TO GIVE PAYMENTS OF UP TO $450,000 PER PERSON TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO WERE SUBJECT TO ENFORCEMENT OF THE ZERO TALLERANTS POLICY IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION. HAVE YOU OR ANYONE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE TALKS? ...

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02:52:09

I HAVE NOT AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN TALKS. THAT IS SOMEONE WITHIN THE PROVINCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

02:52:18
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, AND LET ME BE EXPLICIT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE FILED OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S LITIGATION STRATEGY OR POTENTIAL SETMENT. WHO DO YOU THINK IS MORE DESERVING OF CASH PAYMENTS FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT? ILLEGAL MIGRANTS WHO CROSS OUR BORDERS OR THE FAMILY OF U.S. SOLDIERS WHO ARE KILLED IN ACTION? ...

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02:52:38
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I THINK, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW HOW I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES WEARING OUR NATION'S UNIFORM ARE OUR GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY TO THE NATION. ...

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02:52:56

SO -- DO YOU THINK IT'S SHOCKING THAT ILLEGAL MIGRANTS COULD GET UP TO FOUR AND A HALF TIMES WHAT THE FAMILY OF A SERVICE MEMBER KILLED IN ACTION.

02:53:07
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, IF I MAY. I'M A LAWYER BY PROFESSION. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S ADVISABLE TO RENDER OPINIONS ON FACTS, ON CASES. THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHICH I AM NOT FAMILIAR. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CASES THAT ARE BEFORE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO WHICH YOU ARE REFERRING ARE FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS ACT, WHERE NOT ALL OF THOSE UNLAWFULLY PRESENT ARE FILING SUIT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, BUT THOSE PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN WERE TAKEN FROM THEM AS A MEANS OF DETERRING IRREGULAR MIGRATION. FROM THE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY OF THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. THE FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY THAT RECEIVED BIPARTISAN CONDEMNATION, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE CONDEMNATION OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE OUTCOME OF THAT LITIGATION IN RESPONSE TO THE FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY? THE CRUEL POLICY IS SOMETHING I CANNOT OPINE ON. ...

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02:54:13

YOU CALL THE POLICY CRUEL. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY EVER SEPARATED A SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN FROM SOMEONE THEY CLAIM IS THEIR CHILD? ...

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02:54:26

YES, BUT NOT AS PART OF THE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY. NOT AS PART OF THE FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY THAT WAS SO CRUEL. LET ME EXPLAIN --

02:54:36

SO, OKAY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S NOT PART OF THE POLICY.

02:54:41

IF I MAY.

02:54:42
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ACTUALLY, NO, YOU MAY NOT. IT'S MY TIME. MY TIME IS LIMITED. YOU SAID THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS DONE THIS DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. YOU WERE THE DEPUTY SECRETARY DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. DID THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY SEPARATE A SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN FROM SOMEONE THEY CLAIMED WAS THEIR CHILD IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION? ...

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02:55:02

DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, NOR DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID WE EXECUTE THE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PROMULGATED AND CRUELLY ENFORCED. ...

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02:55:12

I WOULD SAY THE POLICIES YOU HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING ARE COMPLETE TOLERANCE FOR ILLEGAL MIGRANTS CROSSING OUR BORDER. HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS CROSSED INTO THE COUNTRY IN 2020? ...

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02:55:24

I DON'T HAVE --

02:55:27

I HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM CBP IN FRONT OF ME, 458,000. HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE CROSSED INTO THE STATES IN 2021?

02:55:37

I BELIEVE THE NUMBER PICKING OUT OF THAT APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION, THE NUMBER OF RECIDIVISTS, SO IN OTHER WORDS, UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS APPROXIMATELY 1.3,...

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02:55:51

OKAY.

02:55:52

WOULD BE MY ESTIMATE.

02:55:54

I HAVE 1.7, BUT THAT FINE. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN 2.5 TO 4 TIMES AS MUCH.

02:56:00

NO, BECAUSE THE 1.7 MILLION FIGURE TO WHICH YOU REFER, SENATOR, INCLUDES RECIDIVISTS.

02:56:07

LET'S SAY IT'S 1.3. IT'S STILL 2 1/2 TIMES. ARE YOU SATISFIED THAT 2 1/2 TIMES AS MANY ILLEGAL MIGRANTS HAVE CROSSED INTO THIS COUNTRY THIS YEAR AS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? ...

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02:56:16

NO, I'M NOT, BUT WORSE IS TO PROMULGATE AND OPERATIONALIZE A POLICY THAT DEFIES OUR VALUES AS A NATION.

02:56:29

HOW ABOUT DEFIES OUR SOVEREIGNTY AS A NATION?

02:56:34

OUR SOVEREIGNTY IS UNFLINCHING.

02:56:37

REALLY, BECAUSE ANYONE CAN SHOW UP AND CROSS INTO THIS COUNTRY.

02:56:40

I DON'T THINK THAT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN EXPELLED UNDER TITLE 42, THE CDC'S AUTHORITY, WOULD --

02:56:48

1.7 MILLION WHO HAVE CROSSED WOULD PROBABLY THINK SO. WHAT SHOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, SECURING OUR BORDER OR GIVING AMNESTY TO ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE? ...

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02:57:00

SENATOR, JUSTICE IS OUR PRIORITY. THAT INCLUDES SECURING OUR BORDER AND PROVIDING RELIEF TO THOSE WHO QUALIFY FOR IT UNDER OUR LAWS.

02:57:09

SO YOU REFUSE TO PRIORITIZE WHETHER WE SHOULD TRY TO PROTECT OUR BORDER FROM PEOPLE CROSSING IT WHO HAVE ZERO RIGHT TO BE HERE OR GIVING AMNESTY TO THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY? ...

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02:57:23

SENATOR, I DISAGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE PHRASING OF YOUR QUESTION. IT IS AN INACCURATE PHRASING OF OUR MISSIONS, OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, OUR CHALLENGES, AND OUR ACTIONS. ...

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02:57:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

HOW IS IT INACCURATE? WE HAVE HAD 1.3 MILLION BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION CROSS JUST THIS YEAR. THERE ARE MILLIONS MORE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY. I'M SIMPLY ASKING YOU WHAT IS A HIGHER PRIORITY OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, TO PROTECT OUR BORDER OR TO GIVE AMNESTY TO THOSE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY. ...

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02:57:53

SENATOR, WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY NOR THE INTENTION TO GIVE AMNESTY --

02:57:59

YOU TESTIFIED YOU WANTED IT, THOUGH, IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT. A PATHWAY TO CITIZEN, LEGAL STATUS, WHARVE YOU WANT TO CALL IT. WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT, SECURING OUR BORDER OR GIVING SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT TO THE LEGAL STATUS OF THOSE ILLEGAL ALIENS PRESENT IN THE COUNTRY TODAY. ...

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02:58:14
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I CONSIDER THOSE TO BE BOTH VERY SIGNIFICANT PRIORITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED. IF IN FACT WE CAN PASS LEGISLATION THAT FIXES ONCE AND FOR ALL OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, WE HAVE ADDRESSED IN A MATERIAL PART THE CHALLENGES AT OUR BORDER AND ADVANCE OUR EFFORTS TO SECURE IT. ...

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02:58:37

THEY'RE INTERTWINED CHIEFLY BECAUSE OPEN BORDERS YOU AND JOE BIDEN HAVE PERMITTED HAVE ATTRACTED EVEN MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HERE.

02:58:46

THOUNGANK YOU, SENATOR COTTON. SENATOR LEE, WE'RE ON SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS. THREE MINUTES.

02:58:53
Mike Lee Mike Lee

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. SECRETARY, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES SS HAVE ASKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT WITH THOSE WHO HAVE CROSSED OUR BORDERS UNLAWFULLY, YOU HAVE INDICATED YOU'RE INCLINED TO DODGE THE QUESTION. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE HEARING, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE BEEN HEARING ALL OVER THE PLACE FROM PEOPLE ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF UTAH. A LOT OF THEM REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE FAMILY OF FOUR IN UTAH HAS A TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF $71,000. IF YOU GOT A FAMILY OF FOUR THAT CROSSES OVER OUR BORDERS UNLAWFULLY SETTLE TO THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT $1.8 MILLION IN A SETTLEMENT. TAKE TWO, TWO AND A HALF DECADES FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY OF FOUR IN UTAH TO EARN THAT. SO THE THOUGHT THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS OFFERING THAT AS A REWARD, AS AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO CROSS THROUGH OUR BORDERS UNLAWFULLY, IT'S UNTHINKABLE TO MANY UTAHANS, AS WELL IT SHOULD BE. PEOPLE OF UTAH AND PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES CERTAINLY DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT. THE FACT THIS WAS EVEN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED IS TROUBLING TO ME. DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE CAN DENY THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE AS A MAGNET FOR FUTURE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. NOW, ABOUT 60% OF THOSE HERE UNLAWFULLY ARE VISA OVERSTAYS, PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE LAWFULLY AND THEN FELL OUT OF LAWFUL STATUS. WISH WE HAD MORE TIME AND I COULD ASK YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO APPREHEND THOSE PEOPLE. WISH I COULD ASK YOU FURTHER THINGS LIKE WHAT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES YOU MIGHT NEED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GAIN OPERATIONAL CONTROL AT THE BORDER AGAIN, WHICH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT AND EXPECT AND NEED AND DESERVE. LOOK, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS CLEARLY FAILED IN ITS MISSION TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF ITS BORDERS. THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF ACKNOWLEDGES HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE LIKELY CROSSED OVER OUR SOUTHERN BORDER ILLEGALLY THIS YEAR WITH NO END IN SIGHT. NO CONCRETE PLAN FOR STOPPING THESE BORDER SURGES. INSTEAD, YOUR DEPARTMENT IS FOCUSED ON CLIMATE CHANGE. THE FACTS SEEM TO INDICATE, MR. SECRETARY, AMERICANS CANNOT HOPE TO KEEP SENTINEL OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITIES, WITH TERRORISTS AND GANG MEMBERS CAN'T BE KEPT OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND CRIMINAL ALIENS OFF THEIR STREETS AS LONG AS YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND RUNNING IT THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN RUNNING IT. THIS CANNOT CONTINUE. FOR THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, INCLUDING PEOPLE LIKE THE WOMAN WHO WAS RECENTLY RAPED IN OPEN SIGHT IN A PHILADELPHIA SUBWAY TRAIN JUST RECENTLY BY SOMEONE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHO HAD A CRIMINAL ALIEN BACKGROUND. I IMPLORE YOU, YOU HAVE TO FIX THIS. FIX IT OR STEP DOWN. THANK YOU. ...

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03:02:33

THANK YOU, SENATOR LEE. SENATOR GRAHAM.

03:02:36
Lindsey Graham Lindsey Graham

THANK YOU. SO LET'S GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT. I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU WHERE I CAN, BUT I WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND OF THE 1.7 MILLION THAT CAME ACROSS ILLEGALLY, THAT WE HAVE APPREHENDED, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? OKAY, YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY, 965,000 WERE SUBJECT TO TITLE 42 EXPULSION EXPULSION. IS THAT BASICALLY CORRECT? ...

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03:03:01

YES, SENATOR.

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HOW MANY WERE EXPELLED?

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I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS, MY INFORMATION IS THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS --

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ALL OF THEM?

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YES.

03:03:14

WE'LL CHECK IT, BUT LET'S -- ALL OF THEM. YOU SAID THAT 40,000 WERE REMOVED UNDER TITLE 8. IS THAT CORRECT?

03:03:24

YES.

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TAKEN OUT OF THE COUNTRY. 125,000 WERE SENT OVER TO HHS. HOW MANY OF THEM LEFT THE COUNTRY?

03:03:34

THAT NUMBER I DON'T HAVE.

03:03:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I CAN TELL YOU, ALL OF THEM ARE STILL HERE. WE CALLED HHS. NONE OF THEM HAVE LEFT THE COUNTRY OF ANY SUBSTANCE. SO THAT'S 125,000, PRETTY MUCH. YOU SAID 375,000 WERE RELEASED INTO THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE. IS THAT ACCURATE? ...

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03:03:57

CAN YOU REPEAT THE NUMBER?

03:03:59

HERE'S WHAT -- THIS IS WHY I'M DOING IT. YOU SAID PREVIOUSLY, 375,000 OF THE 1.7 WERE RELEASED IN THE UNITED STATES. IS THAT STILL ACCURATE?

03:04:07

APPROXIMATELY.

03:04:09
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY. AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE APPROXIMATES HERE. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW OF THE 125,000 UNACCOMPANIED MINORS, THEY WENT FROM ONE GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO ANOTHER BUT THEY'RE STILL HERE AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO LEAVE. THE 375,000 WERE RELEASED INTO THE UNITED STATES, SO THAT'S A HALF A MILLION OF THE 1.7 STILL HERE. ...

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03:04:31

AND IF I MAY, THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THE 375,000 APPROXIMATELY, ARE IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS.

03:04:42
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

RIGHT. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OVER A MILLION PEOPLE HEADED FOR FOORMAL ORDER OF DEPORTATION THAT ARE STILL HERE. OF THE 1.7 MILLION THAT CAME HERE, HALF A MILLION ARE STILL HERE. AND THERE'S 230,000 GAP. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 230,000? ...

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03:05:01

IF I MAY, SENATOR. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

03:05:05

OKAY.

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OF THE 1.7 MILLION, THAT IS NOT 1.7 MILLION DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

03:05:11

OKAY.

03:05:13

BECAUSE THERE IS A RATE OF RECIDIVISM.

03:05:18

WELL, ARE THESE PEOPLE -- DID THEY COME ACROSS IN THE TIME PERIOD IN QUESTION? I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAD COME BEFORE. DID THEY COME AGAIN?

03:05:26

THEY WERE ENCOUNTERED.

03:05:28

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THIS IS THEIR THIRD TIME, IF THEY COME.

03:05:32

YES.

03:05:32
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY. SO THE POINT IS, 1.7 MILLION PEOPLE CAME, SOME OF THEM ARE RECIDIVISTS. THE POINT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART VERY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, ABOUT HALF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME ARE STILL HERE. 40%. AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. AND PEOPLE KNOW THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THAT IF YOU COME HERE, YOU HAVE A 1 IN 3 CHANCE OF NEVER LEAVING. THAT'S GOT TO CHANGE. I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU. ...

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03:06:04

THANK YOU, SENATOR GRAHAM. I BELIEVE IT'S SENATOR CRUZ IS NEXT.

03:06:11

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

03:06:14

I FORGOT TO LOOK TO BY LEFT, WHICH IS RARE. SENATOR BLUMENTHAL COMES BEFORE YOU.

03:06:22

FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE NOT LOOKING TO YOUR LEFT.

03:06:24
Richard Blumenthal Richard Blumenthal

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. SECRETARY, I WAS ASKING YOU A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT PRECISE NUMBERS OF RESOURCES AND THE TIMELINE AND THE REASON THAT I'M VERY INTENT ON RESETTLING AND THE NUMBERS AND THE TIMELINE IS I DON'T WANT TO BE BACK HERE IN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND FOR YOU TO SAY IF ONLY WE HAD RESOURCES. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE NOW SO THAT WE CAN HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE IF WE FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM. AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE THEM SO THAT THE AFGHAN REFUGEES WHO COME HERE, THEY ARE ALLIES AND PARTNERS WHO HAVE BEEN AT OUR SIDE IN AFGHANISTAN AND PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE. THEY RISKED THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEY'RE COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TARGETS ON THEIR BACKS THERE. AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, A MORAL IMPERATIVE, I WANT TO SALUTE ALL OF THE VETERAN GROUPS AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE EFFORT. MY OFFICE HAS BEEN A PART OF A COALITION THAT HAS ENABLED FLIGHTS TO LEAVE, BUT AS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS COME TO THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE JOBS AND HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE. I KNOW YOU SHARE THAT VIEW. YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKED THIS MORNING ABOUT THE SO-CALLED SEPARATION POLICY, FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY, WHICH RESULTED FROM CHILDREN BEING TORN FROM THEIR PARENTS, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF THESE FAMILIES. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HARM THAT RESULTS FROM FAMILIES BEING TORN APART IN THIS WAY AND WHY THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS CALLED THE TRUMP POLICY, QUOTE, GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED CHILD ABUSE? ...

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03:08:32
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, SENATOR. LET ME MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT NEITHER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION EXECUTED ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY OF SEPARATING CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS TO DETER IRREGULAR MIGRATION. IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT COMES IMMEDIATELY TO MIND IS MY CONVERSATION WITH THE MOTHER WHO WAS IN FACT THROUGH HARD WORK, REUNITED WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER, BUT SHE SAID THAT THE EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL SEPARATION CONTINUES. THAT THE DAUGHTER AT A YOUNG AGE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HER MOTHER COULD NOT PROTECT HER FROM THE CRUELTY OF THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION AND THERE REMAINS A DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM THAT BOTH THE MOTHER AND THE DAUGHTER CONTINUE TO SUFFER. AND THAT IS WHY I SAY THAT THE CRUELTY IS TRAGICALLY A LASTING ONE, AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS IT. ...

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03:09:35
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

AND YOU AND I, AS LAWYERS, AND OTHERS, AS A MATTER OF FACT MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE WHO HAVE BEEN ATTORNEYS GENERAL OF THEIR STATE, AS I HAVE BEEN, OR UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, AS I HAVE BEEN ALSO, AND ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, KNOW THAT SOMETIMES GOVERNMENTS ARE SUED. STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS. AND SETTLEMENTS ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THOSE GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE A TRIAL COULD RESULT IN EVEN GREATER LIABILITY THAN A SETTLEMENT COULD. AM I CORRECT IN THAT VIEW? ...

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03:10:10
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

YOU ARE, SENATOR. AND I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WAS UNITED IN ITS CONDEMNATION OF THE FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY OF THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, AND IT IS THAT THAT WILL CONSTITUTE A JURY IN ANY TRIAL. ...

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03:10:26

THANK YOU. SENATOR CRUZ.

03:10:27
Ted Cruz Ted Cruz

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY MAYORKAS, YOU TOLD SENATOR GRAHAM THAT YOU HAVE RELEASED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 500,000 AND 700,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS. YOU TOLD ME YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE HAD COVID. YOU TOLD ME FURTHER YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY THE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS WHO BROUGHT THEM IN. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING WITH CHAIRMAN DURBIN, YOU TALKED ABOUT CATCH AND RELEASE. AND CHAIRMAN DURBIN ASKED YOU WHETHER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO WERE RELEASED UNDER CATCH AND RELEASE AND GIVEN A COURT DATE IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER THEY SHOW UP. YOU RESPONDED, QUOTE, THE GREAT MAJORITY DO, MR. CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY MAYORKAS, I BELIEVE THAT TESTIMONY IS FALSE. IT IS CONTRARY TO VIRTUALLY EVERY PUBLIC REPORTING ON THE MATTER, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M LOOKING AT A JULY 27th, 2021 STORY IN AXIOS THAT DESCRIBES JUST 13% OF MIGRANTS HAD SHOWN UP AFTER CATCH AND RELEASE. YOU KNOW YOU'RE UNDER OATH AND SUBJECT TO THE PENALTY OF PERJURY. DO YOU STAND BY YOUR TESTIMONY TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT THE GREAT MAJORITY OF ILLEGAL ALIENS RELEASED UNDER CATCH AND RELEASE SHOW UP VOLUNTARILY AT COURT PROCEEDINGS? ...

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03:11:44

CAN I GIVE YOU THE DATA I HAVE AT MY DISPOSAL?

03:11:47

SURE.

03:11:49

SENATOR, THE PERCENTAGE OF NONCITIZENS WHO HAVE CHECKED IN WHO HAVE BEEN COMPLIANT WITH THE ALTERNATIVES TO DETENTION OR ARE WITHIN THEIR REPORTING TIMEFRAME...

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03:12:00

THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. HOW MANY SHOW UP AT THE COURT FOR THESE HEARINGS?

03:12:04

65%.

03:12:04

YOU'RE GIVING STATS THAT AREN'T ANSWERING THE QUESTION. HOW MANY SHOW UP AT THE COURT HEARING INTHE STATS FROM AXIOS SHOWS 13%. YOU'RE SAYING 13% IS A GREAT MAJORITY. ...

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03:12:19

I'M PULLING FROM THE DATA I HAVE, SENATOR. AND I WILL VERIFY THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA AFTER MY TESTIMONY TODAY AND REPORT BACK TO YOU.

03:12:26

SO IF YOUR TESTIMONY IS THE GREAT MAJORITY SHOW UP FOR HEARING IS WRONG AND FALSE TESTIMONY, YOU WILL CORRECT IT IN WRITING. LET ME ASK YOU --

03:12:36

LET ME --

03:12:36

YOU WON'T CORRECT IT IN WRITING?

03:12:41

I MOST CERTAINLY WILL, BUT I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING, SENATOR. THAT IS THAT I TAKE MY OATH --

03:12:46
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

FINE, YOU TAKE YOUR OATH SERIOUSLY. MY TIME IS LIMITED ON THAT. LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. IT'S BEEN REPORTED THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS CONSIDERING PAYING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHOSE FAMILIES WERE SEPARATED $450,000 APIECE. THAT WOULD MEAN FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, THEY WOULD GET $1.8 MILLION. ...

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03:13:04

THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.

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WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING?

03:13:08

MY UNDERSTANDING, AND IT'S DRAWN FROM NEWS REPORTS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND --

03:13:16

YOUR'RE THE DEFENDANT IN THE LAWSUIT.

03:13:20

IT'S THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY PER FAMILY.

03:13:23
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY REPORTED. IT'S PER PERSON. DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PAY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FOUR AND A HALF TIMES WHAT WE PAY THE FAMILY OF A SERVICE MEMBER KILLED IN COMBAT? AND IF WE PAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, WILL WE GET MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR LESS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? ...

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03:13:43
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, LET ME SAY THIS. THAT I DO NOT THINK A MOTHER WHO WOULD TRAVEL TO THE UNITED STATES IN THE HANDS OF TRAFFICKERS SO SHE CAN BE SEPARATED FROM HER 7-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THE DURATION OF WHICH -- ...

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03:14:03

CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? THOSE WERE TWO YES AND NO QUESTIONS.

03:14:07

I DO NOT THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A PULL FACTOR.

03:14:11

I SAID WAS IT A GOOD IDEA TO PAY THEM MONEY AND WOULD YOU GET MORE OR LESS ILLEGAL EMIGRATION IF YOU GIVE MILLIONS TO IMMIGRANTS? MORE OR LESS?

03:14:23

I CAN'T SPEAK TO SETTLING TORT CLAIMS ACTS.

03:14:27

THANK YOU, SENATOR CRUZ. THANK YOU, SENATOR CRUZ.

03:14:31

CAN HE ANSWER THE QUESTION?

03:14:33

YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION TWO OR THREE TIMES.

03:14:35

HE'S REFUSED TO ANSWER IT.

03:14:37

YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. YOU HAVE GONE LONGER --

03:14:39

THE SECRETARY OF DHS HAS NO IDEA WHETHER PAYING MILLIONS OF --

03:14:44

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THE QUESTION. ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE GONE LONGER THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR. SENATOR PADILLA.

03:14:51
Alex Padilla Alex Padilla

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. MAYORKAS, WE HAVE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. IN THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONING, ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE ERRORS WE WERE COMPLIMENTING YOUR LEADERSHIP AND DEPARTMENT ON AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE ANOTHER POSITIVE ANNOUNCEMENT YOU MADE BACK IN JULY. I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR AT THE TIME THAT YOU AND SECRETARY McDONOUGH WERE STARTING A NEW INITIATIVE TO BRING BACK NONCITIZEN MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES HAD BEEN REMOVED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THIS PAST JUNE, I HELD A MEETING OF MY SUBCOMMITTEE ON THIS ISSUE, AND JUST THIS WEEK INTRODUCED THE VETERANS DEPORTATION PREVENTION AND REFORM ACT. THIS BILL WOULD PUT PROCESSES IN PLACE TO REDUCE THE REMOVAL OF VETERANS WHO BRAVELY FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY AND YET MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME UNITED STATES CITIZENS WHILE SERVING IN THE MILITARY, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP ON THAT AND FOR WORKING WITH ME ON ANOTHER SPECIFIC CASE. MR. HOWARD BAILEY, A NAVY VETERAN WHO IS NOW BACK HOME IN THE UNITED STATES WITH HIS FAMILY AFTER NEARLY A DECADE HE HAD BEEN DEPORTED FOR AN OLD CHARGE THAT HAD SINCE BEEN PARDONED. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT STEPS THE DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT MADE BACK IN JULY. CAN YOU SHARE ANY UPDATES ON THE WORK OF THE INITIATIVE AND WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING OUR DEPORTED VETERANS HOME? AND IF THERE'S SPECIFIC PLANS THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO APPROVE THE NATURALIZATION RATE OF NONCITIZEN MILITARY MEMBERS WHILE THEY'RE SERVING. ...

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03:16:43
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THIS ISSUE. WE INDEED HAVE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO BRING BACK VETERANS WHO ARE UNJUSTLY DEPORTED. AND WE HAVE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO INSURE THAT VETERANS ARE AWARE OF THE IMMIGRATION BENEFITS TO WHICH THEY MIGHT BE ENTITLED AND COULD AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THOSE BENEFITS. WE HAVE INDEED, I BELIEVE, BROUGHT BACK FIVE VETERANS UNDER THIS PROGRAM. WE HAVE PUBLISHED EDUCATION MATERIALS TO THE VETERAN COMMUNITY IN THE BROADER PUBLIC TO ADVISE THE VETERAN COMMUNITY OF THE IMMIGRATION BENEFITS TO WHICH THEY MIGHT BE ENTITLED. AND THIS EFFORT IS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF DEBRA ROGERS, WHO HAS DEDICATED HER CAREER TO THIS EFFORT, AND I WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP YOUR OFFICE INFORMED OF OUR PROGRESS. ...

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03:17:40
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO IMPROVE THE NATURALIZATION RATES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ENLIST WITH THAT ASPIRATION, IN SOME CASES, EXPECTATIONS IN RESTORING THE PROCESS THAT FACILITATES, NOT OBSTRUCTS THEIR ABILITY TO BECOME CITIZENS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ...

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03:18:03

SENATOR HAWLEY.

03:18:05
Josh Hawley Josh Hawley

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SECRETARY MAYORKAS, JUST A FEW ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING YOU JUST TESTIFIED TO, TO SENATOR CRUZ. I THINK YOU JUST SAID THAT YOUR VIEW IS THAT PAYING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS $450,000 OR MORE, A MILLION PER FAMILY, THAT THAT IS NOT A PULL FACTOR. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULDN'T ENCOURAGE MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. YOU SAID NOT A PULL FACTOR, YOUR WORDS. ...

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03:18:28

MAY I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION?

03:18:30

WELL, I JUST WANT -- YOU SAID NOT A PULL FACTOR, RIGHT? I COULDN'T QUITE HEAR YOU AT THE TIME SO I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

03:18:37
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

THE SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS OF THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIM CHARGE ARISING FROM THE FAMILY SEPARATION EFFECTED UNDER THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION'S ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY WOULD NOT BE A PULL FACTOR. THAT IS MY TESTIMONY. ...

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03:18:54
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THAT'S NEWS THAT YOU THINK THAT THESE PAYMENTS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WOULD NOT BE A PULL FACTOR, THAT PAYING THEM WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THAT'S NEWS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS. BACK IN MARCH, WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WOULD BE HIS BORDER CZAR, HE SAID SHE'S THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO HELP IN STEMMING THE MOVEMENT OF SO MANY FOLKS, STEMMING THE MIGRATION TO OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. THAT'S PRESIDENT BIDEN. DO YOU REPORT TO HER? ...

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03:19:24
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I REPORT TO THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT, AND YOUR QUESTION MISSTATES THE FACTS. THE PRESIDENT DID NOT APPOINT THE VICE PRESIDENT TO BE THE BORDER CZAR. HE ASKED HER TO LEAD THE EFFORT IN ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES OF IRREGULAR MIGRATION, TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. ...

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03:19:43

AH, I SEE. SO IS SHE WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU ON THAT IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR? HOW OFTEN DO YOU MEET WITH HER?

03:19:50

I AM CERTAINLY IN CLOSE TOUCH WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT.

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HOW OFTEN DO YOU MEET ON THE SUBJECT?

03:19:55

I HAVE MET WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT MORE THAN A HANDFUL OF TIMES.

03:20:00

MORE THAN A HANDFUL. WELL, SO WHAT'S THAT MEAN? SIX, SEVEN TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR.

03:20:04

OH, NO, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN OFFICE FOR A YEAR, SENATOR. SECONDLY, I AM IN CLOSE TOUCH --

03:20:12

SO SHE'S VERY INVOLVED IN THE DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND IN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. YOU TRAVEL TO THE BORDER TOGETHER?

03:20:21

SENATOR, ALLOW ME TO REPEAT MY TESTIMONY THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT'S FOCUS IS ON ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSE.

03:20:27

I HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY. I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU TRAVEL TO THE BORDER TOGETHER? ARE YOU DEVICING POLICIES TOGETHER?

03:20:36

HAVE TRAVELED TO THE BORDER ONCE WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT TO EL PASO, TEXAS, SO SHE COULD SEE FIRST-HAND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE.

03:20:43

HAS SHE BEEN PART OF YOUR DECISION TO END THE REMAIN IN MEXICO POLICY, TO END THE PUBLIC CHARGE RULE, TO CHANGE THE GUIDANCE? HAS SHE BEEN PART OF THOSE DECISIONS? ...

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03:20:55

I HAVE NOT CONSULTED WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT DIRECTLY --

03:20:59

WHAT IS SHE DOING? SHE'S NOT THE BORDER CZAR. SHE'S DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS WHAT YOUR TESTIMONY IS, BUT YOU'RE NOT CONSULTING WITH HER ON ANY POLICY, SO WHAT IS IT THAT SHE'S DOING, EXACTLY? ...

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03:21:11

SENATOR, AS I HAVE REPEATEDLY TESTIFIED, SHE'S FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES OF IRREGULAR MIGRATION IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MIGRATION --

03:21:19

HOW HAS THAT BEEN GOING?

03:21:22

THAT IS -- WE ARE ADVANCING CONSIDERABLY, AND IN FACT, I'M CONTRIBUTING TO THAT EFFORT.

03:21:27

YOU THINK THE POLICIES ARE WORKING?

03:21:29

I HAVE MET WITH THE LEADERSHIP IN MEXICO, IN GUATEMALA, IN EL SALVADOR, IN HONDURAS, IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO ADDRESS --

03:21:38

AND THOUGH EFFORTS ARE WORKING? IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL?

03:21:41

THIS IS A --

03:21:43

TIME HAS EXPIRED.

03:21:44

THIS IS A PROCESS THAT TAKES TIME AND DELIVERS AN ENDURING SOLUTION.

03:21:48

SENATOR GRASSLEY.

03:21:50

MR. SECRETARY, WHAT SPECIFIC CRIMINAL CONDUCT WOULD CAUSE AN AFGHAN EVACUEE'S PAROLE TO BE TERMINATED?

03:22:05
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, IT IS CONDUCT IN VIOLATION OF PAROLE WILL REQUIRE US TO CONDUCT AN INDIVIDUALIZED EXAMINATION, UNDERSTAND THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE VIOLATION, AND -- ...

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03:22:21

CAN YOU NAME --

03:22:23

REVOKE PAROLE.

03:22:25

I'M AFTER THE TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT WOULD CAUSE THE PAROLE TO BE TERMINATED. JUST GIVE ME A COUPLE THREE EXAMPLES.

03:22:34

IT COULD BE ANYTHING, IT COULD BE --

03:22:37
Chuck Grassley Chuck Grassley

OKAY, THEN LET'S LET ME GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION THEN. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF AN AFGHAN NATIONAL HOUSED AT FT. BLISS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN AN ALLEGED ATTACK ON A FEMALE SERVICE MEMBER ON SEPTEMBER 19th?HAS THAT PAROLE BEEN TERMINATED? ...

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03:22:54
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO, SENATOR, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE OF WHICH YOU SPEAK. I DO KNOW THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AN INDIVIDUAL -- ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL ON A BASE IS BEING CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED AND IMMIGRATION DETAINER HAS BEEN POSTED AS WELL SO THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS, REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS, CAN FOLLOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. ...

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03:23:27

SO THEY WILL BE REMOVED THEN?

03:23:30

I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL OF WHICH YOU SPEAK, BUT IF WE HAVE THE SAME CASE IN MIND, THE ANSWER IS AFFIRMATIVE.

03:23:39
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY. NOW, ANOTHER CASE, AND THIS COULD BE THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU MIGHT HAVE IN MIND, BUT WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS OF AN AFGHAN NATIONAL AT FT. McCOY WHO WAS RECENTLY INDICTED FOR ASSAULTING HIS WIFE. HAS HIS PAROLE BEEN TERMINATED AND IF SO WHEN WOULD THEY BE REMOVED? ...

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03:24:04
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL, THE CASE TO WHICH YOU REFER. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ANSWER BASED ON A GENERIC DESCRIPTION OF THE CASE, BUT I WILL SAY THIS. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS CHARGED CRIMINALLY, AN IMMIGRATION DETAINER WILL BE PLACED ON THAT INDIVIDUAL. PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE CRIMINAL CHARGES, WE WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS WILL IN FACT BE PURSUED. REMOVAL WILL BE EFFECTED, AND OF COURSE, PAROLE TERMINATED. ...

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03:24:38
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

OKAY. LAST QUESTION. THEN ANOTHER CASE LIKE THAT. WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS OF AN AFGHAN NATIONAL THROWN OUT OF KABUL AND TRANSFERRED TO THE UNITED STATES ON AUGUST 26th WHOWAS CONVICTED OF FELONY RAPE IN IDAHO IN 2010? SO THAT'S ALREADY CONVICTED. WHEN WILL THAT PERSON BE REMOVED AND TO WHAT COUNTRY WILL THEY BE REMOVED? ...

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03:25:04
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO, SENATOR, ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD NEED FURTHER IDENTIFIERS WITH RESPECT TO THAT CASE. AND I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE DISCOVERED A PRIOR CONVICTION THAT PAROLE WAS NOT ALREADY TERMINATED, AND I WOULD BE PLEASED TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE. ...

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03:25:24

OKAY.

03:25:25

ON THE FACTS OF THAT CASE.

03:25:26
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

ON THOSE THREE SPECIFIC CASES OR MAYBE IT'S FOUR, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A WRITTEN REQUEST AND ANSWER THOSE SPECIFIC CASES BECAUSE IF THESE PEOPLE ARE ITEMINALY Y CRIMINALLY CHARGED, WE WANT THEM REMOVED. ...

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03:25:43

THANKS. SENATOR BLACKBURN.

03:25:49
Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn

AND MR. SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US A SECOND ROUND. DURING THE FIRST ROUND, FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. YOU WANTED TO CHALLENGE THE STATS I WAS USING. THE STATS WE'RE USING ARE GOVERNMENT STATS. AND THEY ARE ACCURATE. BUT YOUR ATTITUDE DURING THAT RESPONSE WAS DULY NOTED. I WANT TO GO TO PART OF THE RESPONSE YOU GAVE TO CHAIRMAN DURBIN WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. I HAVE TALKED WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BORDER PATROL ON THE BORDER, AND YES, THEY ALL SAY THEY HAVE NEEDED THE WALL. THEY NEED TECHNOLOGY WHERE THE WALL CANNOT GO, THEY NEED MORE AGENTS THAN JUDGES. BUT THEY HAVE TOLD ME REPEATEDLY THAT YOU ALL ARE REMOVING TECHNOLOGY FROM THE BORDER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT IS ACCURATE OR INACCURATE AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO ME WITH THE RESPONSE IN WRITING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING THEY NEED FOR SURVEILLANCE. ...

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03:26:56
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, I WOULD BE VERY PLEASED TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU BECAUSE I'M NOT AWARE OF THE REMOVAL OF TECHNOLOGY. AND LET ME ALSO, IF I MAY, YOU REFERENCED MY ATTITUDE, AND I HOPE I WAS UNFLINCHINGLY RESPECTFUL ON RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTIONS. I APOLOGIZE IF YOU TOOK IT OTHERWISE. I CERTAINLY DID NOT MEAN TO BE. ...

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03:27:17
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

LET ME RETURN TO A QUESTION SENATOR GRAHAM HAS ASKED YOU AND I NOTIFIED YOUR STAFF I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY WITH AN NTA OR AN NTR, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT TOTAL NUMBER. AND TODAY, YOU HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER. ...

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03:27:39

I HAVE THAT NUMBER.

03:27:41

THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

03:27:45
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SENATOR, BETWEEN JANUARY 1stAND OCTOBER 31st OF 2021, MY DATA INDICATES THAT 210,465 NONCITIZENS WERE ISSUED NOTICES TO APPEAR. AND 94,581 WERE ISSUED NOTICES TO REPORT. WE HAVE DISCONTINUED ISSUING NOTICES TO REPORT. ...

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03:28:16
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THIS COUNTRY. IF THOSE ARE YOUR NUMBERS FOR WHAT YOU HAVE ISSUED AS NTAs AND NTRs BUT YOU ALSO SAY THERE ARE 1.7 MILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE ENTERED, AND TALKING TO BORDER PATROL, THEY THINK THE GOT-AWAY NUMBER IS AS HIGH AS 1.5 MILLION. SO YOU KNOW, IT LEADS ME TO THIS NUMBER THAT YOU ALL SAY IS IN THE COUNTRY. WHERE YOU CONTINUE TO USE THE 11 MILLION NUMBER, AND I KNOW YALE AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES IN THEIR STUDIES HAVE CHALLENGED THAT NUMBER. YOU AS HEAD OF DHS SHOULD HAVE A MORE APPROPRIATE NUMBER FOR US. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ...

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03:28:55
Dick Durbin Dick Durbin

THANK YOU, SENATOR BLACKBURN. MR. SECRETARY, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE SEEKING A SECOND ROUND SO I'M GOING TO WRAP IT UP WITH MY OWN ROUND AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS BRIEF AS I CAN BUT TO TRY TO CLARIFY TWO OR THREE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. FIRST, THE QUESTION OF CIVIL COMPENSATION UNDER THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIM ACT TO PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN WERE REMOVED FROM THEM FORCIBLY, SOME OF WHOM HAVE NEVER BEEN REUNITED STRIKES ME AS A FORMER PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY AS A PRETTY SOLID LAWSUIT, AND TO CHARACTERIZE THESE PEOPLE AS ILLEGAL ALIENS IS WRONG. AT THE TIME THOSE PEOPLE PRESENT THEMSELVES THAT BORDER, THEY ARE NOT IN AN ILLEGAL SITUATION WHATSOEVER. THEY ARE ASKING FOR ASYLUM. AND SEPARATION THAT TOOK PLACE AT THAT POINT WOULD NOT BE FROM AN ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SECONDLY, TO SUGGEST THIS IS A PULL FACTOR, SOME CIVIL SETTLEMENT FOR TAKING YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM YOU, PERHAPS NEVER TO BE REUNITED, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL HEAD TO THE UNITED STATES BORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BARGAIN, TO GIVE UP YOUR CHILD TO BE SEPARATED FROM THEM FORCEALLY? I THINK THAT'S A RIDICULOUS CONCLUSION. SECOND, I UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE SENATORS KEEPS TALKING ABOUT CAGES. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, MANY OF THESE CHILDREN WERE NOT GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF EVEN A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS IN AMERICA. THEY WERE SENT BACK TO REMAIN IN MEXICO, A POLICY WHICH THIS ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT SUPPORT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THE LOVING ARMS OF A DAY CAMP SITUATION BUT RATHER IN MANY INSTANCES WERE EXPLOITED, ENDANGERED, AND REMAIN IN MEXICO SITUATION, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE NOT EMBRACED IT. FINALLY, LET ME SUGGEST THAT YOUR STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINDINGS OF A STUDY BY THE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION COUNCIL RELEASED IN JANUARY OF 2021, WHICH FOUND AS FOLLOWS, SURVEY OF NEARLY 3 MILLION IMMIGRATION COURT HEARINGS SPANNING MORE THAN A DECADE FOUND THAT 83% OF ALL NONDETAINED IMMIGRANTS ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR COURT HEARINGS. 83%. 15% OF THOSE IMMIGRANTS WHO DID MISS A COURT HEARING WERE ORDERED DEPORTED WERE LATER ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY REOPEN THEIR CASE AND HAVE THE REMOVAL ORDERS RESCINDED. CATCH AND RELEASE, 83%, 98%. AND IF THEY HAD A LAWYER REPRESENTING THEM, IT WAS A 96% APPEARANCE. CATCH AND RELEASE. THAT JUST DOESN'T SQUARE WITH THIS NOTION. I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND CRITIQUE IT FOR ME IF YOU THINK IT'S A CREDIBLE STUDY. IT SOUNDS LIKE AS MUCH TO ME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THOSE OBSERVATIONS? ...

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03:31:36
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

I AFFIRM THE STATEMENTS YOU HAVE JUST ARTICULATED, MR. CHAIRMAN. ESPECIALLY VIGOROUSLY WITH RESPECT TO THE FEDERAL TORT CLAIMS ACT AND WHAT PARENTS ENDURED IN BEING RIPPED APART FROM THEIR CHILDREN, SOME OF WHOM HAVE YET TO SEE THEIR CHILDREN AGAIN. ...

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03:31:54
Alejandro Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas

GOD FORBID THESE 1800 KIDS WHO ARE STILL SEPARATED, THAT THEIR PARENTS ARE TRYING TO ASK FOR SOME COMPIZATION FROM THAT HORRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENED TO THEM, THAT'S HARDLY A PULL FACTOR IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I KNOW THIS WAS A TRIAL, AND YOU HAVE WEATHERED IT WELL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THERE MAY BE SOME FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD WHICH I HOPE YOU'LL RESPOND TO IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND WITH THAT, THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE STANDS ADJOURNED. EVERY DAY WE TAKE YOUR CALL AND DISCUSS POLICY ISSUES THAT IMPACT YOU. COMING UP WEDNESDAY MORNING, WE WILL DISCUSS THE LATEST ON BIDEN'S BUILD BACK BETTER AGENDA. WE WILL ALSO TALK WITH YVETTE IT -- NEVADA CONGRESSWOMAN. ALSO, HOW ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE CHANGING THE INDUSTRY. WATCH THE "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" ON C-SPAN OR C-SPAN NOW. WE WILL TAKE CALLS, FACEBOOK COMMENTS, OR TWEETS. WEDNESDAY, NOMINEES A TESTIFY AT A CONFIRMATION HEARING BEFORE THE TRANSFORMATION -- TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. WATCH ON C-SPAN.ORG OR OUR NEW VIDEO APP, C-SPAN NOW. ...

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